The Quantum Biology Collective Podcast

Episode 75: Beyond Biomechanics – The True Nature of the Human Form
Release Date: May 9, 2024
Host: Meredith Oake
Guest: Joanne Avison – Expert in fascia, anatomy, and spiritual science, author of "Myofascial Magic in Action"

Overview

This engaging episode challenges the traditional mechanical view of the human body and explores the cutting-edge quantum biological paradigm. Host Meredith Oake and guest Joanne Avison invite listeners to reconsider what it means to be human, shifting the lens from "biomechanical machines" to "liquid crystal light beings" enmeshed in an intelligent participatory universe. Joanne shares deep insights from her expertise in fascia, anatomy, spiritual science, and yoga, peppered with personal anecdotes, scientific theory, and a reverence for the mysteries of human form and health.

Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. Moving Beyond Biomechanics (06:47–21:24)

• Historical Schism: The conversation traces the split between body and being back to Descartes’ era, where the Church maintained authority over the soul and science claimed the body. This separation birthed a reductionist, mechanistic approach to medicine.

  • Quote – Joanne Avison (10:05):
    "Now it's not...we have a chasm between the world of the being and the world of the body. Cartesian reductionism...reduced the body down to the biomechanical sum of its anatomical parts and chemical reactions…"

• Holistic Integration: Joanne advocates for a return to a unified, heart-centered, and participatory model of health, emphasizing that ancient wisdom and modern science are converging.

  • Quote – Joanne (12:17):
    "It's all one piece and it's all one co-creative reaction...all one quantum biological field."

• Heliocentricity & Heart-Centeredness: She draws a parallel between Copernicus' heliocentrism and embryological findings that show humans develop "heart first," suggesting the heart is the true "sun" of the body (19:10–21:24).

  • Quote – Joanne (21:24):
    "We're not brains walking around on sticks...We are not just intellectual. That's where the data lives and we need that data. But the magic...is in us as heart-centered beings."

2. Fascia & the Matrix of Connection (21:36–44:43)

• The Fascia as ‘Dark Matter’: Fascia is described as the inner matrix—akin to black matter in the universe—that connects and communicates throughout the entire body.

  • Quote – Joanne (21:36):
    "The fascia is to the inner cosmos what black matter is to the outer cosmos. It's our communication networks..."

• Bioemotional Model: Joanne introduces her made-up term "bioemotional," emphasizing that neither biochemical nor biomechanical models alone explain human function.

• Dissection Discoveries: Contrary to textbook biology, real dissections show no true beginnings or endings—everything is interconnected via myofascia.

  • Quote – Joanne (25:32):
    "Dissect a body...looking for an insertion or origin of say, biceps...and it just doesn’t stop. You’re everywhere. You stand back and realize you’re dealing with one muscle, myofascia…"

• Human Form as Self-Organizing: Human embryos don’t assemble part by part like machines; rather, there is a continuous, emergent, self-organizing phenomenon.

  • Quote – Joanne (27:24):
    "When you were an embryo...everything it needs to become you. It doesn’t go to school to learn how to be an embryo."

3. Quantum Body: Liquid Crystal, Light, and Resonance (44:43–53:35)

• The Body as a Resonant Instrument: Suggested by structure and function under tension (tensegrity), Joanne likens the body to a finely tuned instrument or orchestra, each part resonating and communicating through fascia.

  • Quote – Joanne (40:05):
    "Think of an umbrella...the spokes tension the fabric. Similarly, you are already pre-tensioned. Every part...is communicating...through the resonance of that instrument."

• Liquid Crystal Light Matrix: Fascia emits biophotons—ultra-low frequency light—demonstrating the body's role as a light-emitting, living system.

• Haptic Perception: Fascia operates as the body's haptic interface, akin to a touchscreen, constantly informing and adapting at a sensory level.

  • Quote – Joanne (43:58):
    "Gold standard peer reviewed research is that fascia is the foundation of haptic perception throughout the form."

• No Solid Parts: Borrowing from quantum biology, the body is portrayed as a "liquid crystal matrix," with no true solidity.

4. Health, Adaptability & The Power of Environment (44:43–50:45)

• Health as Removing Barriers: True health is less about external intervention and more about clearing obstacles to the body’s natural capacity to thrive (33:40).
• Adaptability in the Modern Age: Joanne highlights the body's resilience and adaptability in the face of new technologies and environments (45:41). The emerging paradigm requires embracing rather than fearing change.
• Role of Technology: Technologies like 5G and AI are seen as manifestations and extensions of the intelligence already inherent in biological life.

5. Importance of Self-Compassion & Bioemotional Intelligence (50:45–73:48)

• Self-Esteem & Worthiness: Joanne and Meredith discuss societal pressure, body image, and the fundamental fact that everyone "deserves to be here."

  • Quote – Joanne (38:39):
    "We're here. Well said, Meredith. That's brilliant. Absolutely. And...the fascia is a matrix of love, light, and sound in the body."

• Tuning Into the Body: Health practitioners are urged to listen to the body’s language, slow down, and cultivate intuitive communication with their own fascia and emotional states.

  • Personal Story: Joanne describes working herself to physical breakdown and learning (the hard way) to respect her body's limits and emotional needs (61:07–65:13).

• Bioemotional Events & Recovery: Healing and recovery come not just from technique or intervention, but through deep listening and responding emotionally and intuitively to the body's needs.

6. Participatory Universe, Collective Consciousness & Sacred Geometry (53:55–58:01)

• May Wan Ho’s Metaphor: Joanne reads a profound quote from biologist May Wan Ho, comparing the body to a "super orchestra" playing a continuously evolving, improvisational symphony (54:29–58:01).

  • Quote – May Wan Ho (quoted by Joanne, 54:32):
    "Imagine an immensely huge super orchestra...never ceasing to play out our individual songlines...spontaneously and without hesitation...each and every player...enjoy maximum freedom of expression, improvising...while maintaining in step and in tune with the whole..."

• Collective Healing: The potential power of collective focus and prayer for planetary healing is discussed (50:46–51:25).

• Embryology & Sacred Geometry: Joanne links sacred geometry patterns (e.g., seed of life) to embryology, suggesting a divinely coordinated architecture at all scales (51:26–53:22).

7. Practical Applications & Joanne’s Journey (73:48–end)

• Micro-Movements & Fascia Training: Joanne shares how her own recovery from serious illness was accelerated using small, mindful movements that respected fascia health—leading to her new training series, co-developed with Paul Thornley (75:10–79:48).

• Intuitive Healing: Recovery and growth depend on honoring the body's wisdom, agency, and natural design, rather than rigid protocols.

• Community & Divine Inspiration: Joanne describes the powerful, synchronistic collaborations that have arisen in her practice—suggesting our evolution is both individual and collective in nature.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "We’re not a collection of parts that were assembled in a factory like a machine. We are, in fact, liquid crystal light beings connected to a participatory universe." – Meredith Oake (00:55)
• "It carved a rift…a chasm between the world of the being and the world of the body." – Joanne Avison (10:04)
• "Our fascia is a matrix of love, light, and sound in the body. And that's a scientific statement as well as a spiritual one." – Joanne (38:53)
• "Every single part of you grows under tension...You are already an up umbrella in the round." – Joanne (40:20)
• "Fascia…is the largest sensory organ of the body. And that’s blown a hole in everything we've ever learned for the last 500 years...it’s self aware." – Joanne (42:44)
• "The body is a liquid crystal matrix. There are no solid parts." – Joanne (44:32)
• "Take care of you first. Give freely of your overflow." – Joanne (49:48)
• "When you understand the miracle of your self-organization…you see spirit having this human experience." – Joanne (36:52)
• "The God I worship doesn’t do this unless there’s more for me to learn than there is to lose." – Joanne (76:47)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Historical context for mind-body schism: 06:47–14:19
• Embryology, heart-centeredness, and revolution in understanding: 14:19–21:24
• Fascia anatomy and communication networks: 21:36–24:42
• Dissection realism: No separate parts: 25:32–27:23
• Quantum coherence, resonance, and the fascia matrix: 44:43–53:35
• May Wan Ho’s orchestra metaphor: 54:29–58:01
• Personal story: Recovery and micro-movements: 73:48–79:48
• Community, divine inspiration, and program details: 78:21–end

Tone & Style

Warm, curious, reverent, playful, and passionate. The conversation moves between the deeply spiritual, the rigorously scientific, and the deeply personal, blending metaphor, story, and technical insight.

Takeaways

• The "machine model" of the body is outdated—our true reality is quantum, relational, and dynamic.
• Fascia is central to health, serving as a self-aware, communicative matrix of love, light, and sound.
• Healing hinges on listening deeply, trusting intuitive body wisdom, and removing barriers to our innate capacity to thrive.
• Technologies like AI and 5G reflect—rather than create—intelligence that is already present in our biology and consciousness.
• True transformation arises both individually and collectively, with the power of focused intention and community.

For more resources and Joanne’s training series, see links in episode show notes.