We’re bringing back a listener favorite. In this intimate conversation, Sakara founder Danielle DuBoise joins bestselling author Martha Beck to reframe anxiety—not as a personal flaw, but as misdirected creative energy.

Martha explains how we abandon our true nature in the name of approval, why anxiety is always about a story rather than the present moment, and how shifting into curiosity, creativity, and embodied truth can open the door to purpose and joy.

Martha shares:

What “true nature’’ is—and how to reconnect with it
The difference between fear and anxiety
How anxiety spirals into control, people-pleasing, and self-denial
Simple practices that reset your brain
The psychology of living your purpose

Light Work

Choose one thing each day that genuinely lights you up—something small, creative, curious, or connective—and do it without apology. Notice how it shifts your nervous system, your capacity, and your joy.

About Martha:

Martha Beck is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and mentor whose work blends behavioral science, depth psychology, humor, and spiritual insight. She holds three Harvard degrees in social science, and has spent more than two decades helping people strip away social conditioning and reclaim their integrity, purpose, and joy.

Called “one of the smartest women I know” by Oprah Winfrey, Martha is widely regarded as one of the most influential life coaches of our time. Her bestselling books include Finding Your Own North Star, The Joy Diet, Expecting Adam, and The Way of Integrity, an Oprah’s Book Club pick. Her more recent work explores anxiety, creativity, and consciousness—offering practical tools to move from fear into freedom.

Listen Again: Escape the Anxiety Spiral with Martha Beck