
What happens when your spouse asks the questions you've never been asked before? In this episode, Bruce turns the tables and interviews Rene about the principles that have shaped their 32-year marriage, their partnership in business, and the way they've learned to grow without losing each other. Rene shares why "keeping your side of the street clean" has become one of the foundational agreements in their relationship, how they've created a space where behavior can be challenged without attacking identity, and why trust has to come before truth can be received. The conversation then turns to Bruce, who opens up about the pressure of leadership, the weight of carrying so much, and the realization that shifted something deep inside him: you can't solve a being problem with a business solution. This is an honest conversation about marriage, personal growth, and learning to become the kind of partner who makes it safe for the other person to grow.
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