ENCORE The Chrisley Family Crossover, Part 1

Summary

The Southern Tea Podcast

ENCORE: The Chrisley Family Crossover, Part 1

Release Date: May 27, 2026
Host: Lindsie Chrisley
Guests: Todd Chrisley, Julie Chrisley, Savannah Chrisley

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Episode Overview

This special crossover episode brings together the Chrisley family—Lindsie, Todd, Julie, and Savannah—for the first time publicly since 2017. They candidly explore their family’s estrangement, the impact of fame and reality TV, personal growth, and the nuances of rebuilding relationships. The episode blends deep, emotional revelations with familiar Chrisley humor and audience-loved "foul play" confessions.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Returning as a United Family (02:05)

• Lindsie, visibly nervous, frames the podcast as a rare, long-awaited reunion:

  "This is the first time that anyone has heard from all of us together since 2017 and me leaving Chrisley Knows Best."

• Todd highlights the importance of controlling their own narrative:

  "I think that it's that God has been good to allow us this opportunity...to be able to sit in one room with one format and control the conversation. This is an opportunity...to continue to heal, but it's an opportunity for all of the listeners out here who have similar issues..." (04:39)

2. Podcasting vs. Reality TV (05:49)

• Julie appreciates podcast authenticity versus reality TV editing:

  "It's really the stripped down version of who we are." (06:59)

• Todd echoes the value of their unfiltered voices:

  "With the podcast, we don't have [editing]. We get to be more authentic..." (07:22)

• Savannah, now with her own podcast, discusses learning to drop the production-induced "automatic filter":

  "The hardest part...was not having an automatic filter, because we’re so used to having a filter...for my first episode, I had to...stop with the involuntary happiness." (08:29)

3. Emotional Vulnerability and Family Dynamics (09:25)

• Todd reflects on how the family's show started as a docuseries but was received as comedy, changing how they shared emotions. He admits:

  "I did a disservice as a parent by not allowing y'all to truly lean into your raw emotions..." (10:45)

• Lindsie and Savannah agree that being open about mental health was not always possible or socially acceptable:

  "You cry in your bedroom, cry in the shower, and move on with your day." (10:45)

4. Estrangement Origins and Impact (14:49)

• Lindsie discusses how the family’s move from Atlanta to Nashville triggered estrangement, feeling left out both personally and on the show:

  "…with y’all moving to Nashville, I became much more limited in what we would call storyline...And I think it did create a sense of jealousy..." (16:03)

• Todd acknowledges her feelings, linking them to deeper fears of abandonment:

  "I think that us leaving triggered in you...your biological mother's abandonment..." (18:52)

• Julie admits they were unaware of Lindsie’s struggles, painting a false picture of her life:

  "To the world, and unfortunately, at that time, we were part of the world, not really part of your world...You had a perfect life. We didn't know that your marriage wasn't great." (19:49)

• Savannah and Todd admit to public retaliation and pettiness, recognizing the cycle of ‘hurt people hurting people’:

  "For hurt people that hurt people. Our situation is more common than it’s not common." (21:48)

5. Boundaries, Therapy, and Parenting Mistakes (30:33)

• The family discusses the challenge of learning boundaries as adults after growing up so enmeshed:

  "Our family business is being in each other’s business." (31:37)
  "We lived in a 30,000 square foot home and would oftentimes, as siblings, find each other and sleep in my bed or shower together..." (27:29)

• Todd candidly admits:

  "We’ve had to learn that [boundaries] as adults, probably through therapy for most of us." (30:45)

• Lindsie observes her parents’ different parenting with her and her siblings, recognizing their growth and her own therapy work in letting go of resentment:

  "Me, before therapy would have said, why did y’all do this with me? But not make those same mistakes with them. But that's selfish. That's a selfish thought..." (26:19)

6. Navigating Divorce and Finding Forgiveness (48:01)

• Todd openly discusses Lindsie’s affair, offering forgiveness instead of condemnation:

  "You had an affair. And I don’t condone that. I was probably the hardest on you for that. But you are not exempt from forgiveness. God forgives you if you come to him with a repentful heart." (48:45)

• Lindsie shares the ongoing struggle to forgive herself:

  "For myself, forgiveness to myself has not happened." (50:13)

• Julie gently reminds:

  "I hope that with every child, I've gotten better." (22:28)

7. Healing, Redemption, and Faith (36:49, 54:33)

• The panel emphasizes faith as a foundation for their resilience and healing:

  "What God brings us to, He brings us through and that I don't serve a God that is ‘what if’." – Todd (38:37)
  "He is the only steady, he is the only absolute, never changing, never faulting, never disappointing thing in your life." – Julie (54:33)

• Lindsie frames the timing of the episode as a new chapter:

  "The timing is right, because it’s on what I feel like is collectively our own terms. This is our story. And it’s not beautiful and it’s, you know, hard at times, and it’s happy at times, and it’s been devastating at times, but this is the story, this is the truth." (60:30–61:39)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "Our family business is being in each other’s business." – Todd, (31:37)
• "For hurt people that hurt people. And I'm glad that we're here today because our situation is more common than...it's not." – Julie, (21:48)
• "The time that you lose isn’t worth your position in the fight." – Lindsie, (61:32)
• "I did a disservice as a parent by not allowing y'all to truly lean into your raw emotions..." – Todd, (10:45)
• "You are not exempt from forgiveness." – Todd, (48:57)

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• [02:05] Welcoming the crossover episode, introductions, and nerves
• [04:39] Chrisleys discuss reclaiming their family narrative and listeners’ shared experiences
• [05:49] Reality TV vs. Podcasting: authenticity, control, vulnerability
• [14:49] First in-depth exploration of estrangement origins and move to Nashville
• [26:19 – 30:45] The struggle with boundaries and learning from therapy
• [48:01 – 54:33] Open discussion of Lindsie’s divorce, self-forgiveness, and the family’s faith journey
• [60:01 – 63:44] Why reunite now? Moving forward, redemption, and public acknowledgment

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Advice to Listeners Experiencing Estrangement

• Give your children to God:

  "As much as you love your children, you have to give them to God...when you can truly give your kids to God, I think is when you can start to see things happen." – Julie (68:14)

• Don't let hurt stop you from parenting:

  "Do not let the hurt hinder you from being the parent." – Todd (68:44)

• Boundaries and growth are continuous:

  "Parenting a child and parenting a young adult is entirely two different ways of doing things. And I was not in a place to accept some of the decisions that you had made, but I now know that I didn’t have to accept them in order to still help you get to where I needed you to get to." – Todd (69:28)

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Foul Play Segment (70:26)

A hallmark of The Southern Tea: Lindsie reads outrageous, anonymous (and often sexual) listener confessions, leading to:

• Dad jokes and Todd’s mock horror at the content:

  "Let me let you in on a secret… The least a man knows about a woman’s hygiene, the stronger that relationship will be…” (76:20)

• Family laughter and lighthearted teasing about boundaries and privacy.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a blend of deep emotional honesty, practical insights about family, honesty around faith, and the distinctive warmth and humor of the Chrisley clan. It marks the start of a candid, multi-podcast conversation and reaffirms their commitment to authenticity, reconciliation, and personal growth.

For Continuation

Listeners are encouraged to follow the crossover on:

• Part 2: Chrisley Confessions
• Part 3: Unlocked with Savannah
• Special Segment: On The Southern Tea

“We hope that you guys all have a great week, and we’ll talk to you soon.” – Lindsie, closing the episode (78:55)

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All timestamps in MM:SS format. This summary focuses solely on content, skipping ads, intros, and outros.

Transcript

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[Julie Chrisley]

what's up kitty gang?

[Todd Chrisley]

This is me, Nanny Faye.

[Julie Chrisley]

This episode you're about to hear is

[Savannah Chrisley]

about my family and their crazy shit.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maybe I'm crunchy.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think it's so funny when you

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Good morning and welcome back. The fans are excited and have been requesting this episode for some time now. The last you guys all heard of us collectively was in 2017 and I am thrilled to be here with three

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very important people today.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Julie yes, Todd and Savannah. Welcome.

[Julie Chrisley]

Thank you, thank You.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I am going to conduct this episode as an interview because we have four podcasts that are collectively involved in this Chrisley crossover. The first is Coffee Convos podcast, Chrisley Confessions, the Southern Tea, and Savannah's new project, Unlocked. So we are going to get through as much as we can on coffee convos and then you guys can head over to Chris Lee Confessions to hear part two, part three on Unlocked and a fun segment on the Southern Tea.

[Todd Chrisley]

Okay, good.

[Julie Chrisley]

Sounds good.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so I am very nervous. You normally don't get nervous for coffee combos podcast because we normally talk about things like that are inappropriate queeps and like, stuff like that. So for this episode, we're going to.

[Julie Chrisley]

I raised you better.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Pulse check on everyone. And I'm sure that blood pressure is high now. So how is everyone feeling this morning?

[Todd Chrisley]

I'm good. Are you good, Savannah?

[Savannah Chrisley]

I'm great.

[Julie Chrisley]

I'm good.

[Todd Chrisley]

I'm excited. I'm not nervous.

[Savannah Chrisley]

No.

[Todd Chrisley]

I mean, I have a piece about the. I have a piece. I'm glad to be here and, you know, I'm glad to celebrate your success with coffee combos. It's a. You know, folks, I don't know if anyone knows this, but I'm normally not good at getting beat in the ratings on anything thing, but coffee combos does that to me. I'm second place, you know, Lindsay's first place on coffee combos. That's because she talks about things that are inappropriate. And I try. I'm trying to live for the Lord

[Savannah Chrisley]

these days, but you still throw some shade.

[Todd Chrisley]

I didn't say anything about not throwing. Do talk about people, about what those. Whatever she just said.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah, we're not.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Yeah, let's. Let's not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. Okay. So I am nervous because this is the first time that anyone has heard from all of us together since 2017. And me leaving Chris Lee knows best. I feel like it's been a long time coming.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, it's scary because we are doing this publicly, but it also feels good to be doing it on our own terms.

[Todd Chrisley]

I think that we're at a place in our family that, you know, we've been on television since 2013. We have taken direction from a million different people telling us a million different ways of handling things and a million different versions to repeat. And so I think that it's that God has been good to allow us this opportunity to be able to sit in one room with one format and control the conversation. This is an opportunity not only for us as a family to. To continue to heal, but it's an opportunity for all of the listeners out here who have similar issues that have transpired in their family. And there are many.

[Savannah Chrisley]

There's just aren't publicized for the world to see exactly the difference.

[Todd Chrisley]

Exactly. And so I think that I hope that the pod. I hope that this episode and future episodes and all the projects that we do, I hope that they will continue to a serve the Lord and glorify his name. And then I also hope that people can learn from some of the. Some of the mistakes that we've made.

[Julie Chrisley]

Absolutely.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is not a question that I have written down, but it's one that I would love to know. How do you guys like podcasting compared to reality tv? And how do you think that it's different?

[Julie Chrisley]

I say for me and your dad and I, we do our podcast maybe different than, I'm sure, than you do you and Kayl do yours and anybody else, I mean, that's Sassy's doing hers. Totally different. Absolutely. And I think that's what makes it so amazing, is that you can have so many different formats and then they all work. But for your dad and I, I mean, I always start my day before I record in prayer. And I always say, you know, I want to make sure that I'm saying what needs to be said. And most of the time I regurgitate what I've learned through myself just in what I'm going through. I regurgitate that back to the people who are listening to our podcast, people who have taught me something for the week. I give it back to them. And I like the fact that it's on our terms. We say what we really want to say, and we know that what we record is what you're going to hear. It's what the listener is going to hear. Anybody that has recorded reality TV knows that there are hours and hours and hours of recordings that never seen or there's a piece of something that's seen just to make it a little bit, they feel better, more, quote, unquote, better for tv. And with our podcast, we don't have that right. It's really the stripped down version of who we are.

[Todd Chrisley]

I think for me, I would say television because it's what I'm most comfortable with. I've been doing it for 10 years. And I think that what I like better about the podcasting is that we do have that control over what, what's going out compared to when we're filming a television show, which, you know, if we say something that the network doesn't feel is appropriate or that they don't want to use or that they want to sensationalize or whatever, you know, then that's cut and put together in post the way that they want it to read. I think that you and I have had this conversation, Julie, that the podcast has given us a voice that we don't have with television. We get to be more authentic with our podcast and with the things that we're saying. And, you know, we live in such a climate today that you. Everyone's watching what someone's saying, and everyone's trying to take out of context what someone is saying. And I feel like with the podcast, I get to say what I want

[Savannah Chrisley]

to say for sure. I think that's. I've already filmed the first episode of Unlocked, and the hardest part about that was not having an automatic filter, because we're so used to having a filter. Over 10 years, you just kind of have an automatic filter on, you know, what the producers are wanting, you know, what the network's expecting. And so for my first episode, I had to. It was. It took me about halfway through, and then Aaron, who, you know, helps me produce my podcast, she was like, savannah, stop with the involuntary happiness. And I was like, I love that. Yeah, because I just am always. You put a smile on your face, you learn it doesn't matter what you're going through. And so what I'm looking forward to most is people seeing the vulnerable moments, me being able to be honest about something and for people to hear about my relationships and where they've gone wrong.

[Julie Chrisley]

And then everything's not always just funny.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Exactly. Not everything's always funny.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, I think that's been. I think that that's been. Lindsey, going back to your question, you know, that's been a bone of contention since season one of Chris He Knows Best, is that, you know, we. Our show started out as a true docu series, reality television, but the world received it as a comedy. And so obviously, you know, the network and us as a family, we want to feed into or lean into what and give the public what they want. But I think that what I have learned in this process is that I have always gotten on to y' all your entire life. Do not hold it together. You don't need. The rest of the world doesn't know about your pain. The rest of the world doesn't even know about your problems. Deal with those at home. Don't put all your laundry out on the front porch. For by the, say, today, at the end of the day, you. You You. You have a. Your loyalty. I believe loyalty is a huge thing in any relationship. But you got to learn to be loyal to yourself first, you know, to thine own self be true. And I think that I did a disservice as a parent by not allowing y' all to truly lean into your raw emotions and. And kind of deal with those at that moment rather than try to hold them together and then let's fall apart after the cameras go down.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

100%, society now allows for you to talk about mental health, whereas I think before that wasn't normalized. You know, it's something that you're ashamed of. You have to hold it all together. You have to look part, be the part. And you cry in your bedroom, cry in the shower, and you move on with your day.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right. That's right. And us. And listen for a large part, that's what I still do. I mean, I don't put all of my emotions out there.

[Savannah Chrisley]

You have a select few people that you do, but the rest is going to.

[Todd Chrisley]

The rest is going to get stone cold. Todd.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Savannah Chrisley]

100. And it's funny that you say that, because that's a topic that I have down that you and I are going to discuss and how being raised that way, it does create kind of a hard shell. Shell. And it's hard. And relationships. It's hard because I'll look at people, sometimes I'll be like, dried up. Like.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, because, I mean, I raised on. I would. Whenever y', all, I'd say, stop, dry it up, let's move on.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah, well, we all have plenty of therapy.

[Savannah Chrisley]

You're a little soft these days.

[Todd Chrisley]

This one over here, she cries if it's 70 degrees or if it's 40 degrees or if she goes to Sam's and she can't get her thing to pull up. I mean, she, you know, she's. I don't know.

[Savannah Chrisley]

She'll cry at the mailman.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, well, she's probably going to start crying now because I would really love to cover on this episode the estrangement, where it started and what the family dynamic really looked like prior to the estrangement and working together as a family and how there are so many pros to that, but also cons.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that the estrangement kind of started when you guys made the move from Atlanta to Nashville. I think this is my opinion and y' all have yalls of course but I think filming the show out of Atlanta, having my son there and knowing that my husband's my husband at the time parents were there and that that's where we were raising our child. It wasn't an option for me to make the move to Nashville. And I knew that. And to know that not only was my family leaving Atlanta and what we knew or what I've known, also my job was leaving. And that was hard.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To know that even though I didn't let you guys keep Jackson, to know that y' all were there, there was still a sense of security, knowing that you were just down the road.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And so I think my reality looked very different than Yalls because for me to participate in the show, I had aboard a flight to come here, you know, and. Or, you know, or drive. And I did that and went back and forth. And I think that over time, with you guys creating your life in Nashville, that it became what you knew it was.

[Todd Chrisley]

It became our new norm.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And you were filming, you know, every day, and I was in less episodes than everyone. And to be in the marriage that I was in at the time and my husband to not want to be involved in the series, I think that that also created strain that I was unwilling to recognize at that time. You know, I wanted him to be able to live his life, and if corporate was what he wanted to do, I wanted to be a supportive wife. However, also selfishly, I wanted him to do what we were doing. And I kind of wanted the best of both worlds for him to be able to have a corporate job and to have that sense of security, but to also what I felt like I was doing or what was told to me through my marriage was playing around on reality tv. So I do think that with y' all moving to Nashville, I became much more limited in what we would call storyline on Chris Leno's best. And you guys moved on with your life. And I think it did create a sense of jealousy that it wasn't like I was choosing to be jealous. I think it was just everybody else is doing this and now I'm not.

[Todd Chrisley]

I mean, I. And I. And I received that. I mean, I understand that. I think that. From where? From. And I'm not going to speak for we, because y' all can speak for yourself. I think from my perspective, you had Jackson. You were a very hands on, controlling parent, and you. We didn't get to keep Jackson, so I didn't feel that. I guess I felt like. Kind of like what you did, you know, you're down the road, right? So I was being a grandparent down the road. And we didn't have a relationship with Will. We didn't have a relationship with his family, and they made no effort for that. The. When Savannah moved, you were already married. I knew you were safe. She left to come to Nashville, and I was worried about her. That's what caused us to move to Nashville.

[Savannah Chrisley]

And I was also going through my own struggles and my own journey of figuring out who I was, my mental health, all of those things. So being, you know, I would come home every weekend, right? I would. And if I. Even when filming was still happening there, I would go to class Tuesdays and Thursdays, come home Thursday night, film, then come back Monday night. So it was a.

[Todd Chrisley]

So. But I think going back to what you were saying is that, you know, I think that you. From my perspective, and after having all this time to kind of like, internalize a lot of this, I think that us leaving triggered in you kind of like, because we have to go all

[Savannah Chrisley]

the way back, right?

[Todd Chrisley]

I think it triggered in you your. Your biological mother's abandonment, and then now here we are. I'm uprooting everything that, you know, we were. Your stability, your whole life, and now we're. We're uprooting and going to. Coming to Nashville. It certainly was never done intentionally to cause you pain, because I love you as much as I love Savannah or Chase or Grayson. I mean, I don't love any of y' all more than I do Chloe, but, I mean, you know, I do love y' all equally as far as my children, but I feel like that there's so much. There's been so much hurt from not communicating it and not being able to know how to. To properly articulate the pain and where you are at that present time, because

[Savannah Chrisley]

there's been retaliation due to that. It's. You do something. We don't discuss how it bothers us. And then just like.

[Julie Chrisley]

Well, I think if you go back to Lindsay, what you were saying to the world, and unfortunately, at that time, we were part of the world. Not really part of your world, right. But to the world. You had a perfect life. We didn't know that your marriage wasn't great. We didn't know that your relationship with your in laws wasn't great. And because of that, you were in the perfect storm, right? We just didn't know it.

[Todd Chrisley]

And you and I look back now, you know, and I've said that I've had this conversation with you, Lindsay, and you and I have talked about what I'm getting ready to say, how many times I wanted to reach out. You've said how many times that she had picked up her phone and she stopped. And you have said, yeah, yeah. And, you know, there's a lot of hurt.

[Savannah Chrisley]

I mean, no, people listening aren't a stranger to hurt to the situation, to this, to our situation, because it's all been put out there.

[Todd Chrisley]

I mean, it's all been put out. It's all been put out there, but it's been put out there. Haphazard.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Savannah Chrisley]

But also too something I want to address. Me going through LAX and tmz, getting me about something with Lindsay, and I had just found out some information prior to that that was extremely hurtful that she had said and done. So therefore, I then had a lapse in judgment and acted out of character and did the wrong thing and said negative things about her in the public eye that now I'm.

[Todd Chrisley]

Should have never happened.

[Savannah Chrisley]

It should have never happened.

[Todd Chrisley]

But. And the irony of that, what you just said is that again, going back to. About retaliation, because I did that in a. In tweet. In a tweet thing with you on Twitter, Lindsay did things that should and said things that should not have ever been done or said. I perpetuated that by stepping outside of being the parent.

[Julie Chrisley]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

And stooping to a level of letting my hurt cloud my judgment.

[Julie Chrisley]

I think it goes back to hurt people. Hurt people. And that. People say that, and they say it very flippantly, but I think sitting here today, it's for hurt people that hurt people. And I'm glad that we're here today because our situation is more common than. It's not common. And people need to hear it. People need to hear the true story of what our life has been. Not just what our life has been since we filmed, but what my Life's been since 1995.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Julie Chrisley]

When I met you and Kyle and.

[Todd Chrisley]

Sorry, just take a second.

[Julie Chrisley]

You know, I think there's so much more to our story, and I think that we've all made mistakes. And as a parent, I can say that I hope that with every child, I've gotten better. And. But at the time we did what we.

[Todd Chrisley]

We thought we did the best we knew how to. We did the best.

[Julie Chrisley]

Looking back, there were things that we should have done differently. And as a parent, I'm sure Jackson's only nine years old, but you can still, even nine years into it, you can look back and say, you know what? There are things I would have done differently. And that's just a part of life. Well, I mean, you know, just a part of being. Of being a parent and being. Being flawed, which is what we all are.

[Todd Chrisley]

It's you know, Lindsay, you and I've had the conversation. You know, you went through this divorce, and you went through this divorce on your own. You had no parental or family support. You did it on your own. And you have no idea how many times that I wanted to pick up that phone and call you. But out of fear of it being received in a different way into which I was trying to than out then, I wanted it to be received, I let my pride stand in the way of me doing it. Now, that won't ever happen again. Because at the end of the day, I'm going back to what I've always done with y' all as a parent. I'm the parent. You're the child. You are now. I'm the parent. Y' all are young adults. I have to learn a proper boundary of what I. Of how to address y' all and of how to say, this is my boundary. And because this is my boundary, that's letting you know, don't cross it, because if you do now I'm going to have to cross a boundary that you've set.

[Julie Chrisley]

Right. And I think it's getting to a point for you, Todd. And if I'm wrong, correct me, but you said you have this boundary. I think you've also. I've seen this growth in you where you have learned that our adult children have boundaries that we have to. We have to accept, and we have to say, okay, this is Lindsay's boundary, and we have to. Even though we may not agree with it, or this is Savannah's boundary, though we may not agree with it, this is their boundary, and this is our boundary. And we have to come to a place where we can both say, okay, we can agree to disagree. But at the end of the day, I think. And I've said this many, many, many times, and you know it. It's not, I'm going to take my toys, and I'm going to go away.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Mm.

[Julie Chrisley]

I'm gonna leave the playground, and I'm gonna take my toys and go away, because that's not what a family is about.

[Savannah Chrisley]

But also, too Lindsay. And you tell me if you agree, from our perspective is I already know

[Lindsay Chrisley]

where this is going, but go ahead.

[Savannah Chrisley]

It's hard for me because we've never. Or at least me. I've never known anything other than y' all and other than you could, like, not controlling, but making my every move for me. And now as an adult, I want to have my boundaries. But then there's also times where I revert back to Well, I want to be the kid.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, that's like. That's your safe zone.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Yeah. And so it's hard, and it's. When it comes to me creating boundaries, it's not fair for me to say, oh, I want boundaries, but I want to be a kid, too, you know?

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, that's, you know. Was that a question for lynch or did you.

[Savannah Chrisley]

I don't know. Do you kind of see where I'm going with that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, I do, because I think it's hypocritical, but I also do that.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think probably I do it more so than anyone else because I feel like I grew up with y'.

[Savannah Chrisley]

All.

[Todd Chrisley]

You did.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We grew up together, you know, and then had a whole second set of kids, and y' all were very different with them than you were me. And that's not a knock by any means. You knew better. I would hope that you would have been better. Me, before therapy would have said, why did y' all do this with me? But not make those same mistakes with them. But that's selfish. That's a selfish thought. But until therapy, I thought that. I think as a family, because we have always been so close, and as Savannah said, that's all we've ever known. We were just a big family and always together and, you know, yeah, we had, like, friends or whatever, but, I mean, we were each other's friends and

[Savannah Chrisley]

we didn't have boundaries.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We had no boundaries. That was the point.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, there. We never had boundaries. I was just talking about this last night that, you know, dad knew our every move, of everything that we were doing, Savannah and I.

[Todd Chrisley]

Not everything. I've since come to find out.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Okay, well, I can't wait to talk about. We're going to talk about that on my podcast about things that. That we've maybe done that y' all

[Lindsay Chrisley]

have yet to find out about. I will say that with being as close as we were and knowing everything that we were doing and literally just having no boundaries, I mean, we lived in a 30,000 square foot home and would oftentimes, as siblings, find each other and sleep in my bed or shower together. The girls shower together in one shower. Or y' all be in your bathroom and dad taking a. And you be in the bathtub, and we're just walking in. Like, we have literally had no balance.

[Todd Chrisley]

There's never been any privacy.

[Savannah Chrisley]

No. Like, mom would. They'd be in their bathroom, and we'd just go and sit and, like, just start talking like it was.

[Todd Chrisley]

And how many times would I say, what am I doing here?

[Julie Chrisley]

My door's closed.

[Todd Chrisley]

My door's closed. Why are you in here?

[Savannah Chrisley]

Well, because I had to ask.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like nobody's trying to smell your shit. We're just trying to talk.

[Todd Chrisley]

Now give me, give me that. 15 minutes.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

so I think it it does go back to we have had to almost learn boundaries as adults, probably through therapy for most of us.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, for all of us.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

For all of us sitting here, I Don't want to speak for anybody who's not here, but we've had to learn that as adults. And, you know, I think it makes it even harder to have boundaries when we didn't have any growing up. And then I go to college, get a degree, Savannah goes off to school, while also filming Chris Lee Knows Best and working together as a family. So now that's another.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's another layer.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Another layer that I think that people don't understand that that's a whole nother navigation.

[Julie Chrisley]

Because I think very few people. I mean, people have family businesses and things like that, but, I mean, you know, it was every day people have family businesses.

[Todd Chrisley]

People have family businesses that allow them to have different aspects of that business that they are in control of.

[Julie Chrisley]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

Our family business is being in each other's business.

[Julie Chrisley]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's our family.

[Savannah Chrisley]

And too, if we're being honest, our relationships have been so rocky because it was about this picture perfect image, if you think about it. So there was so much hiding from each other of. I can say from, like, a sibling aspect, and even from y', all, it was. I don't want to disappoint. So if I do something, I'm going to hide it. So there was no intention, like, we weren't being intentional about our relationship. It was, I need to do better than this person. I need to, you know, be funnier. I need to be funnier. I need to be noticed more. I need to be. So it was all about a competition that when in reality, we're sitting here, I'm 25 years old, and I really don't feel like I know you, you know, and that's the hard part. It's. I know this. There's this image that we feel like we know of each other, but if we're being honest with each other, we don't.

[Julie Chrisley]

Right.

[Savannah Chrisley]

We really don't know because we haven't taken.

[Julie Chrisley]

Well, I think there's this gap I

[Todd Chrisley]

think you're referencing that you don't use.

[Julie Chrisley]

You go, you know, from this place when y' all were all in the house together, and then you had this huge gap. That was probably the time when you should have been the closest that you weren't. And so now it's a rebuilding. And I know that for me, I'm grateful to have another day to rebuild because someone laid their head down last night and they didn't wake up this morning.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Julie Chrisley]

So to have another day to rebuild is a blessing.

[Todd Chrisley]

And I think. And, you know, this is what I'VE shared with you. It's what I've shared with you. You've got one sister. You've got one sister. And at the end of the day, there's something different with sisters. You have a child now. You could be teaching your sister to

[Lindsay Chrisley]

misunderstand a lot of lessons that she doesn't even realize that are lessons because she is watching what is going on. Yeah.

[Savannah Chrisley]

And I think that was part of it. Which we'll talk. We'll go deeper into that on Unlocked because just your relationship, your marriage, me getting engaged, me calling it off, kind of the influence of all of it will be a much deeper conversation, for sure.

[Todd Chrisley]

I feel, I feel like that. I feel like that it's a God blessing that there was never a time that I did not feel like that we would make it back to each other. Because had I ever felt that way, I feel like that I would have literally been defeated. I feel like that I would have just given up. I. As long as I could see your stuff on social media, I, you know, and that's the other thing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you're admitted. You are admitting on here to stalking.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yeah. Oh, I did check your stuff because, I mean, because, I mean, I. That's the only way I knew how you were doing. But then I realized that social media is really just. It's a smoke.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, it's the highlight reel.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right. It's the highlight reel. And, you know, I didn't know all the pain you were going through. I didn't know about the divorce. And, you know, I mean, I read these articles that, you know, well, you know, your dad was. There was a thing on the Instagram the other day where somebody said, said, well, I hope that Todd, you stay out of this and doesn't ruin the, like the first marriage or something.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I heard you were in a car wreck and dead the other day on Instagram. So, like, you literally, you can't trust.

[Todd Chrisley]

But, you know, I want to be very clear. I never had any involvement in your marriage. There was never any involvement there. So I didn't know what was going on other than I was finding it out the same time everyone else was finding it out on what, whatever you would post or what would come out in the press. You know, I would get those phone calls, you know, from my agent. Every day or every other day, you know, someone's asking for a comment, you know, will you comment on this? No, we're not commenting about that. We're not talking about this. And now I'm just willing to talk about everything. I'm willing to talk about it all because, A. I think that shame is like cancer. And we've talked about this on Chrisley Confessions. Shame is like cancer. If you feed it, it spreads. And I don't want. I don't have any shame. I feel like that. My sh. That when it comes to shame, you know, I don't want to be controlled by that. I want to say, you know, I've made mistakes in the way that I have handled certain situations. We all have. And I can't focus when I say we all have made mistakes. I got to focus on the ones I made. I can't get you to show up at the same place at the same time that I'm showing up emotionally and psychologically and. But what I can do, if I love you enough, if I get to that finish line first, I'll sit there and wait on you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You have to show up where someone else is. And I think that's something that we have kind of missed along the way.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yes.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Of expecting. And I say this all the time, that you try to have a logical conversation with somebody that you feel like what you're saying is very logical, but they're not receiving of it if the person is not ready to receive it. And not showing up to the same place you are. You have to meet them where they are, even if you're ahead of them.

[Todd Chrisley]

But I don't think that. No. I don't think any of us sitting here in 2017 would have said that or would have.

[Julie Chrisley]

No.

[Todd Chrisley]

Would have figured that out.

[Julie Chrisley]

No.

[Savannah Chrisley]

No.

[Julie Chrisley]

Life has a way of humbling. Absolutely. And life has a way of teaching you experiences as bad as some have been. For I can speak for myself, and I think for you, this past couple of years, I have learned more about myself than I could begin to even start to think.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, you know, listen, you learn through pain.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Y' all taught me. Anyone I come in contact with now, I'm like, I've never seen two people dig more into their faith and through life's crappiest circumstances, which is when normally you turn away because you wonder. People look at Christianity and God when things are good. Yeah, exactly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Literally, I have that.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yes.

[Savannah Chrisley]

And y' all have chosen to still stay very steadfast. And it's taught me because, y' all know, I went to on site, and when I went to on site, one of the things that I truly was working on was being so mad at God because why? You know, And I looked at it, and I was like, but look at my mom and dad. Look at how they're handling it. Look at how they're. And so it helped me to get out some of that anger, but I've also had to work through it myself.

[Julie Chrisley]

Right.

[Todd Chrisley]

We all process pain differently and we all process it in a different, you know, in our own time. I think that if that is what you've taken from this and there then that's part of our testimony.

[Julie Chrisley]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

We have a child that what that's watching how we do and how we live in our faith. What I can say to you though is that I firmly believe that what God brings us to, he brings us through and that I don't serve a God. That is what if.

[Julie Chrisley]

Well, I think that's evident of this evidence because we're all four sitting here today. So I think that's evidence that things can happen when you least expect.

[Todd Chrisley]

God can calm the storm with a whisper. And I think that going back to you going through your divorce, it will probably be one of my moments of regret.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's a moment of regret for you, but it's a moment of thankfulness for me because I think if I wouldn't have navigated that situation by myself. And I've told you this before privately, and I'll say it publicly today, that when you have nothing, you have to hit your knees and ask God, please help me.

[Julie Chrisley]

Let me tell you something, sister. Your dad and I are there and I think his regret is. Listen, does. Does any parent want their child to go through a divorce? No, that's not what you. You don't lay in bed night and talk about your dreams for your children that, oh my gosh, well, I hope

[Savannah Chrisley]

they get through at least one divorce.

[Julie Chrisley]

No, that's not something you ever want for your child. I think his regret is not being there for you.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Julie Chrisley]

You know, we don't wish any ill will on Will because we don't know Will. You know, that has been. You guys have always said mama is such a. You know, she walks around with rose colored glasses on. She thinks we're going to be this one big happy family. You know, in my mind, as naive as I was and am, maybe I'm sitting here thinking we're gonna vacation together and we're gonna share birthdays together and we couldn't because.

[Todd Chrisley]

We couldn't because we were playing reality tv.

[Julie Chrisley]

Exactly.

[Todd Chrisley]

Now I want to address that comment because I mean, you know, as much as I serve God, that doesn't mean I don't still get pissed off

[Julie Chrisley]

for

[Todd Chrisley]

Will to Say to diminish what you were doing to. To make a living and what we were doing and are doing. Go play on reality television. Had you not been playing on reality television, he wouldn't be able to subsidize his living today. So I'm proud of what I have done on reality television and proud of what you have, and I am proud that you took whatever I've always said to y'.

[Julie Chrisley]

All.

[Todd Chrisley]

Everything that I do is for you. It's for my children. Take it and grow with it. Take it and make it bigger. You took my last name that I gave you at birth that turned into something through Chrisley Knows Best. You left Chrisley Knows Best and you started coffee Combos. You. I have said to you, you took the platform that I created and you jumped off of it.

[Julie Chrisley]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

And you built your own platform, and that is that from a parental standpoint. That is a wonderful feeling as a parent. And, you know, it goes back to what I've told y' all before. If you go out here and I tell you, don't do something, I really don't think that's what you should do, and you succeed at doing it. I still get to be right because you're still my child, and you did something that was good, and you took and created a platform from what you came from, and you've done exceptionally well with it, and I'm proud of that. I mean, I'm probably. I don't, you know, know all the stuff that y' all talk about. I'm.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Julie, don't tune in.

[Todd Chrisley]

I. I'm not. Because Judy tells me not to listen. But, you know, the. I think that you have a market, you have a viewership or a listenership that is different than what I'm going to have and that you will have something with unlock that may be different than what all of us have, but I do believe that we have a lot of crossover from each other. I feel like that watching you grow your business, whether that be coffee combos or Southern tea or, you know, your brand work, things like that, but still, watching you be a mother, I don't care about the podcast. I don't care about the. The brand work. What have I said to you about

[Julie Chrisley]

Lindsay is an exceptional mother?

[Todd Chrisley]

What have I said to you about your sister?

[Savannah Chrisley]

Same thing.

[Todd Chrisley]

That is the thing that I'm most proud of you for, because the thing that has. The thing that has held you back your entire life is the thing that you became the best at, the thing that you. That you longed to have your whole life was a mother that did that worshiped you the way you worship Jackson. And I now understand that it that you, Julie, could only give to Lindsay what you were capable of giving and what she was ready to receive and,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

and what you were willing to and

[Todd Chrisley]

what I was willing to allow. Because I think, you know, from the very beginning you were not allowed to discipline them, right? You could not put your hands on them. They were my children. I made that very clear. These are my kids. So I kind of went into that, into our marriage, bringing my two children and saying to you, these are my kids.

[Julie Chrisley]

And even after chasing Savannah were born, it was kind of me chasing Savannah and Toddlings in Cal.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It was very much like even though

[Julie Chrisley]

they were his kids too. And the irony much that way.

[Todd Chrisley]

But the irony of that is is that you, Lindsay felt like or you've stated in the past that it was you that you and Kyle were on the outside looking in.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We're actually covering that on Unlocked. Okay, so we can't go into that here.

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[Todd Chrisley]

I just think that everyone's perspective is different because to me, all of you are mine. You're all my children. So I never could relate to any of you feeling different because I didn't feel different.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But my perception from my eyes looks different from her perception from her eyes. Yours, yours, absolutely anybody else.

[Todd Chrisley]

But I think that, you know, going back to it, your greatest accomplishment. And I want you to see this early on and not take until you're 50. Your greatest accomplishment is your children and Jackson is your greatest accomplishment.

[Julie Chrisley]

That's right.

[Todd Chrisley]

Regardless of how successful Coffee combos is or Southern Tea or future projects that we've got coming, regardless of how successful they're going to be. Because I do believe that God has his hands on those and that God's plan is to prosper us. Nothing that I have ever done or will do will ever be a bigger priority or a greater accomplishment than that of raising my children and of being my end. Of being a husband to you, Julie. And first of being a child of God. So my. The things that you all find joy in today are not the things that I find joy in today. I don't like to film television every day. Y' all have known that for years. I've tried to pull away and somehow I keep getting pulled back in over and over and over.

[Savannah Chrisley]

But got things we gotta accomplish.

[Todd Chrisley]

Yeah, clearly. Daddy. Keep going.

[Savannah Chrisley]

I got Sapphire by Savannah. I got all these projects. I gotta find me a man. So. Huh. Keep going.

[Todd Chrisley]

I hope you have better luck with that. What's your next question, darling?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would like to circle back to the divorce just for a second because I think that God's timing is perfect and impeccable. Because had you been involved in my divorce, some of the circumstances would have looked very different. I think you would have had me advocate for myself more, regardless of the position I played that led me to be divorced.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, because I believe that, you know, we all make mistakes. You have acknowledged your mistakes and I have shared with you privately. And, you know, you've said before we started this podcast, things that we've talked about that we're open to talk about here. I have shared with you you had an affair.

[Julie Chrisley]

But.

[Todd Chrisley]

And I don't condone that. I was probably the hardest on you for that. But you are not exempt from forgiveness.

[Julie Chrisley]

Amen.

[Todd Chrisley]

God forgives you if you come to him with a repentful heart.

[Julie Chrisley]

And there's not one person sitting in this room that hasn't made a mistake at 100. Yes.

[Todd Chrisley]

Okay. Well, then I guess I'm absolutely.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Something I want to point out is, like you said, by no means is it saying, hey, what I did is right. But also, if there was a healthy relationship to begin with.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Savannah Chrisley]

If each person was getting what they needed out of it and was being respected and was, you wouldn't be searching elsewhere. And that's up to us at that point to say, hey, I'm not getting what I need, so I need you to give it to me. But you don't learn that. I'm speaking from experience, too. You don't learn that until after the fact.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, listen, I say that if you know something's going in badly, you wouldn't do it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I will say that it's one of the toughest things that I've ever struggled with. I thought by getting the divorce that once I got that final paperwork, that the pain would end, the pain would end, and it didn't. It just created closure for that chapter.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But then for myself, and forgiveness to myself has not happened.

[Todd Chrisley]

And I want to help you as much as I can with that.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I think that, you know, the. The first thought is exactly what Savannah is saying. You wouldn't make certain decisions if needs were being met.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

However, I look at it very differently now because I should have been woman enough to say, this is not working. I need to be strong enough to leave and be done.

[Julie Chrisley]

Well, I think for you, Lindsay, It. It goes back so much.

[Todd Chrisley]

It's much deeper than that for you

[Julie Chrisley]

because you knew the pain that you experienced growing up. You. You have known that pain since you were, what, five years old?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Julie Chrisley]

So you were so determined that you weren't going to repeat that for Jackson, that you stayed way longer than what you should have.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When I came home, I think one of the last scenes that viewers of Chris Lee Knows Best saw of me was in 2017, me coming home and saying I was divorcing. And then I kind of disappeared from the series to only actually end up reconciled and then end up divorced. Now that we're back here today.

[Julie Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I do think that my desire to have a nuclear family was the priority.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Even though it wasn't healthy, I was not using resources that are available, like counseling. We went to therapy once, saw a Christian counselor, and pretty much realized then that he wasn't going to admit fault and I wasn't going to admit fault. So we just weren't going back because we both left angry angrier than we arrived at that point, I should have known that the writing was on the wall and also done something about it.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, listen, you know, we can live our life with the coulda, shoulda, woulda. But what I need for you to understand is that you don't need to have forgiveness from anyone other than God. And once you truly can accept that forgiveness from God, you will forgive yourself. And my advice, for whatever it's worth to you, is that when you know better, you do better. And you have an obligation to do better at that point. And I look at the growth and you, and you, Julie, all three of us have talked privately about you for a year now. The growth that I have seen is astronomical. It makes me. It has taken me to places, to where I've literally wept and got on my knees and thanked God that He. He had stepped into your life

[Julie Chrisley]

and

[Todd Chrisley]

that you had received Him. And for that, that's the greatest blessing because without him, where we just. We just exist and life is too precious to just exist.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know if any of you have ever felt this way, but through the estrangement. And also that was. That was one journey with God that looked very different than the journey that I have gone on since my divorce. And I oftentimes have felt unworthy of God's grace because I have felt like a user, because I went to him when I needed him, not when I wanted him.

[Julie Chrisley]

Absolutely. And I can only speak for me, but absolutely I have. I have felt that way. And if the last few months have taught me anything, it's taught me that he is the only steady, he is the only absolute, never changing, never faulting, never disappointing thing in your life. And we've all been guilty. It's easy to say, oh, God is so good to me. I've got a hit reality show. My kids are beautiful, they're healthy, I'm good.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

God is just amazing when everything's going right.

[Julie Chrisley]

When everything's going right.

[Savannah Chrisley]

And something you said, which is a God moment, as you use the word worthy, and that's the one word that I chose for myself at, on site because through my life I've not felt worthy because I had a certain level of shame of I should have done this or I should have said this or I should have. So therefore, it's my fault. I should have done all these different things in certain situations. And I was not giving myself forgiveness when reality. I wasn't giving myself forgiveness because I

[Todd Chrisley]

didn't feel worthy of it.

[Savannah Chrisley]

I didn't feel worthy of it. But there was also. I didn't know who I'd be without it. If I held this anger towards myself, then at least I know that's how I feel.

[Todd Chrisley]

You know, listen, I've lived with that. I mean, and I know exactly what you're talking about, because I knew and I've had this conversation. You know, there are certain things that have happened to me in my life that I don't know. And I think that I've said this to you, Lindsay, in regards to your biological mother. The anger that I have had for her all of these years, I don't know how to let it go because I've existed with it for 30 years. So now if I let that go, what is my. What is my day look like? What is my identity? You know, what is.

[Julie Chrisley]

We've had that conversation before. You and I have about Talked. Talked about that many times. Because growing up, I always felt it was important to include her. Because in my mind, the best thing for you, a Kyle, was to have a relationship with your mother and your dad. Get angry. I don't know that you guys understood it always, but if there was an event or if there was something, I always wanted to include her. Because in my mind, I thought, I want these children to be as whole as they possibly can be.

[Savannah Chrisley]

But I remember.

[Todd Chrisley]

But I think that doing that in conversations that you and I have had, it created a bigger hole because it did not allow you. You know, it's said in your own words. I mean, you said it the best.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that I oftentimes say this, that if people are going through a situation where divorce is necessary and it's just not going to work out and there are kids involved, that if one parent can't be consistent, then the best thing that they can do is just bow out. Because that is the most unselfish decision. It's selfish to involve yourself when you want to involve yourself, and it's selfish to involve yourself when you can't fill the need that your children have.

[Todd Chrisley]

And so say. And you know, and I think that you were thinking by incorporating her, that did feel that need. And for Lindsay and for Kyle, because Kyle has said this, and I don't want to speak for him because he's not here, but I mean, in conversations that he's had with me was that Kyle has said the same thing that you have said. We would have been better off had we never had any more involvement with her. Because then Julia could have been our mom. That's what we would have known. And that would have been the end of it.

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[Todd Chrisley]

Next question.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have a couple of things that I want to say and you guys can give your opinions on this. I think people are going to want to know why it's important for us to sit down and do this crossover now. And the short answer for me is the timing is right, because it's on what I feel like is collectively our own terms. I think we all are able to meet each other at the same place now.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's a sense of healing for me.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And public acknowledgment and honesty to say, this is our story.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And it's not beautiful and it's, you know, hard at times, and it's happy at times, and it's been devastating at times, but this is the story, this is the truth. I think that for me, if I had to do it over again, I tried to take the positive out of the entire situation, because if you don't, and therapy has taught me that if you don't look at the positives of the situation and you dwell on all of the negatives, you're not going to be healing. And so to be able to be here, I feel blessed. But also my biggest advice to anybody that is going through any type of estrangement, the time that you lose isn't worth your position in the fight.

[Todd Chrisley]

I agree. I agree.

[Julie Chrisley]

I don't think it could have been said any better.

[Todd Chrisley]

I think for me, you know, why do it now? Because now is my time now. I'm ready to do it now. I'm at a place. I'm at a place with you that the healing has begun. You and I have said the. The I'm sorrys. We have acknowledged our contribution to each other's pain, and I didn't. I was never going to do this based off of a network telling me to do it or someone else telling me to do it. I was always going to do it. I always knew the time was would come. I always held on to that hope, and I always. My faith never wavered in that. But I also always knew that I would do it when I was ready.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think people are going to want to know who reached out first to sit down for the podcast. I can say that I did. I think that it's the right platform. I think, like we all discussed earlier in this episode, that it is a place that you can come and be raw and real and unfiltered. Unlocked is a great name for a podcast because it's true that that is what it is. People have followed the family for so long at this point that you almost feel a sense of, you know, the falling out and we use social media improperly. Along with the fallout that we involved the public and so there is a sense of. I feel like I owe the public an answer.

[Julie Chrisley]

And I think that. Exactly what you're saying. I think it's our time. It's easy for us to sit and say, you know, you know, social media is a smokescreen when we've been guilty of using it as a smokescreen. And we've been guilty of. Of being petty and putting. Now, not me, but others in this room have been guilty of being petty,

[Savannah Chrisley]

basically, all three of us.

[Julie Chrisley]

And I'm not saying that I'm a saint.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, like, are you saying, like, you are on.

[Todd Chrisley]

So you are when it comes to social media?

[Julie Chrisley]

I'm just saying that I think it's a redemption day. I think it's a redemption day that anybody listening to this podcast, as you said, our story has gotten ugly at times, and it has been so hard and it's been great and beautiful at times, as with any family.

[Savannah Chrisley]

And we've been manipulated by outside sources.

[Julie Chrisley]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's the main reason the devil had a seat at our table.

[Julie Chrisley]

Absolutely.

[Todd Chrisley]

You know, from, you know, people sending, you know, delivering false messages. And I think that's happened on both sides as well.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that this truly is a piece of the puzzle that has been missing. And it. It does feel like a sense of relief to be able to do this and to be able to move forward and not feel like we're publicly hide or private, you know, hiding behind anything from the public. This is the story. This is what it is. There's healing taking place, and that's it.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Julie Chrisley]

Well, as we've said on our podcast, when your life is shattered and it's in a million pieces and you're trying to put all the pieces back together again, it still is a cracked mess. And until you bring God into it to fill in those missing pieces, that's when it becomes whole. And I think collectively as a family, we're finally at that place where we're not.

[Todd Chrisley]

I think we still have. We still have work to do. We're working properly.

[Savannah Chrisley]

We're at the beginning of it.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Julie Chrisley]

Absolutely right.

[Savannah Chrisley]

And I know for Lindsay and I, that we'll discuss on our podcast is because y' all three have had tougher conversations.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Y' all have invested the time and the energy. We really haven't. We've had surface level conversations. So I feel like the deepest conversation we've had is what we just had and what we will have, which to me is I love.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

In fairness, I will say that I grew up with you, and my main goal When I knew that it was an option for the reconciliation to take place was to reestablish that relationship with you, because you are my son's grandfather. And that was my main goal. If I got nothing else out of it and would love to say that. Jackson ask and does a pulse check every single week. Mom, can we say that we are back with Papa again? He asked that every single week. Does Instagram. Now, that was my main goal. And if anything else came out of it where I have a relationship with you and I re establish relationships with my siblings, that. That was just the icing on the cake.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But for my son to at least know my dad, that was. That was my goal. I will not participate in any conversations here or in any future podcast referencing any headlines that have come out that oftentimes are stated to make people click. None of that stuff is important.

[Todd Chrisley]

No. And I'm not going to talk about it because I'm not going to let somebody else go. Go click it.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I think the hardest part with that is people don't realize, and now hopefully the people who are listening will after this episode, that these are real people and real feelings involved. So what you're reading is real issues that are going on with families, but also bits and pieces of things that have been pieced together to try to make a story make sense to the public that we haven't spoken on.

[Todd Chrisley]

Right?

[Julie Chrisley]

That's right.

[Todd Chrisley]

Exactly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would like to ask you guys one question, and then we're going to do some foul stuff. Really quick foul stuff. Some foul stuff. You know, like, F O U l. Yeah, yeah. F O U L. Can you guys offer any advice to other parents that are going through estrangement with their children? I don't want to talk about estrangement with siblings because I'm also going to reference the same question to you guys on Unlocked.

[Julie Chrisley]

I'm going to say for me, the advice that I can give is that in your life, you have to. As much as you love your children, you have to give them to God. And I think every day I pray for all of my children and my grandchildren. And I think we so live in a culture where we want to control everything. And when you can truly give your kids to God, I think is when you can start to see things happen.

[Todd Chrisley]

I agree. I think that if I was giving any advice to a parent that has estrangement from a child is do not let the hurt hinder you from being the parent.

[Julie Chrisley]

That's right.

[Todd Chrisley]

I think. I think that my hurt hindered Me from being the parent for the first time in your life.

[Julie Chrisley]

Hurt and pride.

[Todd Chrisley]

Mine was more hurt because I never. Pride was never an issue for me because I didn't. I didn't care about that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think it's an issue for a lot of parents who are estranged from their children, though, because they want to be right. And I think that we had already been through other things prior to the estrangement. The pride aspect was probably a little gone, right?

[Todd Chrisley]

Yeah, there wasn't. That wasn't a part for me. It was the hurt. And I think the hurt hindered me from being the parent that I know that I am and that I should consistently be. So I would say that, you know, don't let those lines become blurred. I'm the parent, you're the child. Eight to 80, cripple, weak or blind, I'm still the parent, you're the child. And I need to be a parent. I need to act like a parent all the time. And parenting a child and parenting a young adult is entirely two different ways of doing things. And I was not in a place to accept some of the decisions that you had made, but I now know that I didn't have to accept them in order to still help you get to where I needed you to get to. With you feeling like you got there on your own, I think that's the advice that I would give up Next.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Is some foul play for you, gang?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So the first listener writes in. Okay, so I was a mom of two when this happened and newly divorced. I had never really been super experienced sexually. And so I will call this my ho phase. I was always. I was always super careful about having sex and wore protection on all of that jazz. But this one guy stopped me at the mall. He was older than me, much taller than me, he smelled good, and he drove a bend. So naturally, I was like, I'm not used to this. So immediately. Yes. So one night when my kids were with their dad, I had my friend over, and she invites a guy. So I invite a guy from the mall. We're all drinking and having a good time, swimming in the pool, and my friend goes to have sex with her guy, and somehow I end up in the basement with mine. And I'm tipsy at this point. I don't know if he is, but I'm very awkward because, like I said, I have not really been experienced at this time. Every single time he strokes inside of me, I fart.

[Savannah Chrisley]

What?

[Todd Chrisley]

Get out of here. I'm dying. I'm dying.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

These are not queefs they are loud af. So I'm crying inside my head, and thankfully it's pitch dark. But I don't know how to end the situation. So I literally just pushed him off of me and immediately acted like I was in pain because of his penetration. I never talked to him again. I was mortified.

[Julie Chrisley]

My God. Somebody wrote that and submitted it. I hope they were anonymous.

[Todd Chrisley]

Oh, my God. Who I'm.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you think? Okay, my question.

[Todd Chrisley]

Let me just tell you something, and we're going to move on. This woman right here who's got two children meeting somebody in the mall and hooks up them because they smelled good, drove them, right? Mercedes Benz. And she's talking about farting when he penetrates her. She needs psychological help.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But do we think that. There's a couple things that I want to say about this. So do we think that because she's inexperienced in the sexual game,

[Todd Chrisley]

she's inexperienced in having class? No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you guys think that she was so inexperienced in the sexual game that she was actually queefing and thought it was a fart?

[Savannah Chrisley]

Or did she?

[Todd Chrisley]

You just have taught me about all of this. This stuff.

[Julie Chrisley]

Stop, Stop.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Because if she farted, it probably smelled.

[Todd Chrisley]

I can't. I just can't. Y' all are obvious.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Somebody would admit to these things.

[Julie Chrisley]

Don't even read that. Don't even read.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, the second listener writes in. So back in the day, I used to hook up on the low with my friend's brother one day.

[Todd Chrisley]

This is just a bunch of podcast.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is this you? Did you write in Everybody knows about Tyler, Savannah.

[Savannah Chrisley]

That was all on the show.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

One day, my dad. My dad took said friend and I out to lunch at Red Robin after we partook in some recreational marijuana use. And I picked the.

[Todd Chrisley]

Daddy did marijuana with them.

[Savannah Chrisley]

No, no, kids.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The kids and I picked the out. Well, of course she pigged the out at Red Robin.

[Julie Chrisley]

Pigged out? Like, ate too much.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, of course, as soon as we get back to her place, I get a text from her brother asking to hook up on my way, and said that I'm on my way, baby. About five minutes into giving him head, my stomach started.

[Todd Chrisley]

Oh, I can't even. We're not even having these conversations. We're not having such.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

My stomach started to feel real heavy. Then I went a tad too deep and gagged, which caused me to throw up all of the Red Robin burger and bottomless fries that I had just consumed. Needless to say, I was mortified. But obviously he wasn't too traumatized because he's still in my DMs.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

up on his dick, and he's still in her DMs.

[Todd Chrisley]

Okay, I'm not gonna have this conversation because I raised you better.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And this person wrote this in. I didn't write this. I'm just reading it.

[Todd Chrisley]

She puked on him while doing that 10 years ago. Go. Then he's into kinkier stuff today if he's still hitting her back up. So he's a. He is a. He's a potential future. Scatter.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Savannah Chrisley]

No,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

wait, you've done that.

[Savannah Chrisley]

No.

[Todd Chrisley]

Get out of here.

[Savannah Chrisley]

I've always said, what's down there don't belong up here. This is a gym.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, the last listener writes in. Hello, ladies. Love you all very much. Here's my foul play story for you guys. Me and my husband get on their podcast.

[Todd Chrisley]

We get people wanting us to pray for them.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You need to also pray for these people.

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah, we.

[Todd Chrisley]

I am.

[Julie Chrisley]

I am. Don't you worry.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Here's my foul play story for you guys. Me and my husband have been together for seven years, and he has been begging to go down on me since we started having sex. And I've always said no.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Huh.

[Todd Chrisley]

Wait. Seven years. And he's not done that. Well, how did it last seven years?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We don't know. Well, I gave another day. It was really good. So I finished in his mouth before I could tell him to move.

[Todd Chrisley]

Wait a minute. That didn't need all that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He got a mouthful and finished immediately ran to the bathroom and mouthwashed multiple times and then brushed his teeth multiple times. So I felt bad for him. I was so embarrassed. First of all,

[Julie Chrisley]

I can't even look. This is awful. People are awful today. I mean, people. The things that they'll.

[Savannah Chrisley]

She's gonna be praying all day.

[Julie Chrisley]

Oh, my gosh. I gotta get in my car right, Right now because I've got to go listen to Joel Osteen.

[Todd Chrisley]

I just.

[Julie Chrisley]

It.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Y'.

[Todd Chrisley]

All.

[Julie Chrisley]

This is more than I can stand.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm just wondering if he had to brush his teeth because she had hair down there. Oh. Do you think that.

[Todd Chrisley]

I know this has been done to shock me?

[Julie Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Todd Chrisley]

This has to have been done to shock.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Todd Chrisley]

Because if there's really a chick out here that's writing this stuff.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, but the last question, and then we're done, though. Do you think that. That most men can tell the difference between a queef and a fart? That's the common question.

[Todd Chrisley]

First off, I didn't even know what the first one was until you put that on your. On this show. And I think that that is just something that. Let me let you in on a secret, because since you've decided to bring up such felt a man, the least a man knows about a woman's hygiene, the stronger that relationship will be. There is a reason that your mother and I have got 28 years. She's got a bathroom. I have a bathroom.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Oh, I pee with the door open.

[Todd Chrisley]

Okay. And. And you have no successful relationship.

[Julie Chrisley]

Right?

[Todd Chrisley]

So, I mean, I'm just sitting and telling you. There are certain things that a man does not want to know that a woman does that we know she does.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

See, like, if I had to take a. At this.

[Todd Chrisley]

Ladies don't say that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, it's a thing. If. If I had to dump the toilet, I would leave the home, drive to somewhere that I knew that had, like, somewhat of clean toilets, and go. I would never poop in the same house ever.

[Todd Chrisley]

Do you understand that your mother and I have been together for 28 years

[Lindsay Chrisley]

and you've never smelled her turd?

[Todd Chrisley]

Never have I ever had your mother to fart on me or have I gone and sat in a bathroom while she is using the bathroom? Because when I look at her, I want to look at something that I think that's pure and clean and this woman has respect for herself, and therefore that respect spills down on me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have you farted in front of somebody?

[Savannah Chrisley]

No, I. I really don't think I have.

[Todd Chrisley]

Well, I would hope not.

[Savannah Chrisley]

I don't think so. I mean, if I did, it was accidental, but, like, she's done.

[Southern Tea Sponsor Voice]

It's not actually she's done it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can tell she's done it.

[Todd Chrisley]

That's not accidental. Well, then it's never had. You've never had an accident.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We're just. We're just different humans.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Well, I'm gonna show my worst so that, like, you know what you're getting. So it only goes up from there, you know?

[Julie Chrisley]

Oh, my God.

[Todd Chrisley]

You know, we don't. No one. The next question doesn't need to be why are you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There's. There is no more question. It's just. I would like to thank you all for sitting down with me. I would also like to thank our listeners for listening to part one of our Chrisley crossover event. Make sure that you tune in to part two over on Chrisley Confessions Podcast. Subscribe to all of our shows on the podcast app, Spotify, Apple Podcast, and always Podcast one. First, we hope that you guys all have a great week, and we'll talk to you soon.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Him.

[Todd Chrisley]

Good luck and God.

[Savannah Chrisley]

Thank you. See you next time.

[Julie Chrisley]

Fluffers.

[Todd Chrisley]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Todd Chrisley]

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