Hoagies, Boundaries & turning Thirteen

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Southern Tea

Episode: Hoagies, Boundaries & Turning Thirteen
Host: Lindsie Chrisley
Date: March 4, 2026
Co-host/Producer: Madison

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Main Theme

This heart-to-heart episode of The Southern Tea features host Lindsie Chrisley, currently podcasting from Dallas, with producer Madison reading listener questions. The show covers a spectrum of topics from home decor secrets, parenting a new teenager, setting (or not setting) boundaries, to reflective conversations on divorce, only-child dynamics, and navigating personal growth. Lindsie’s signature candid Southern charm and humor are present throughout, as are honest takes on motherhood, family, and the realities of life changes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Home Design & Organization

[02:15–05:28]

• Decorating Approaches:

  • Lindsie discusses two design strategies—full-service decorator for her "divorce house," and a contentious, detail-oriented collaboration with a designer for her new home.
  • “Decorating and furniture, I feel like, is very expensive. There are ways that you can cut cost by taking more expensive pieces and then adding, you know, like the Wayfair rug and stuff like that.” [04:01]
  • Recommends virtual interior design platforms for budget-friendly, flexible results.

• Home Organization:

  • Her closet is carefully sorted, but her greatest organizational triumph is her linen closet, thanks to labeled elastic bands for bedsheets.
  • “It was hours worth of work, Madison. Hours worth of work. But it is one of, like, my favorite parts of my house.” [04:52]

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2. Parenting—Adjusting to “Teenhood”

[05:28–07:12]

• Lindsie discusses her son Jackson’s transition into his teen years:

  • Initial adjustment was tough after elementary school, but he’s settled mid-middle school.
  • Jackson, now more independent, sleeps in his own bed and wakes himself up—shifts that feel bittersweet.
  • “It's nice because he's more independent, but then it's also hard because he's my only one...Who needs me now?” [07:08]

• On siblings:

  • Jackson occasionally asks for a brother, especially after hanging out with friends who have siblings.
  • “He’ll come home and immediately be like, I always wanted a brother … I’m like, no. Like, that’s not happening.” [07:20]

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3. Boundaries & Personal Growth

[07:47–09:05]

• Lindsie admits she struggles to set and enforce boundaries, both personally and as a parent.
• “My answer should be, most areas in my life that I set boundaries nowhere. I talk about boundaries and don't have them, so, period.” [08:02]
• Madison and Lindsie joke about needing “boundary therapy.”

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4. Fitness & Life Transitions

[09:05–15:17]

• Pilates Certification:

  • Lindsie’s goal to become a Pilates instructor was shelved after realizing the yearlong commitment and due to life changes in early 2026.
  • “It was way more extensive than what I was initially led to believe… Life had other plans.” [09:24–10:44]

• Routine & Breakups:

  • Talks about how keeping a fitness routine is hard during emotional upheaval.
  • “Pilates hasn’t really…been on my priority list, which is kind of sad because at one point it was like parenting, relationship, Pilates… And two of the three went away.” [14:40]

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5. Reflections on Divorce

[17:23–24:52]

• Lindsie provides an in-depth, vulnerable recount of her marriage to Will, wanting to leave as early as when Jackson was six months old, and the series of reconciliations and separations before the final divorce.
  • “I didn't have enough confidence to make that decision on my own without feeling like I was going to disappoint someone. And I feel like it's so important to be able to have a support system around you…” [18:11]
• She reflects that, if she could go back, she would have trusted her instincts and left earlier to break unhealthy cycles for her son.
• There’s honest discussion on generational divorce patterns and the emotional burdens for children of divorce.

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6. Only-Child vs. Large Family Dynamics

[33:14–35:18]

• Madison, an only child, describes developing extreme independence and loving time alone.
• Lindsie, the eldest of five, values company and struggled with loneliness post-divorce, particularly when Jackson was away.
  • “If I can't do what I want to do with the person that I want to do it with, then, yes, I would prefer to do those things alone, but not really, you know.” [34:46]

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7. Disney Tips & Critiques

[37:20–41:32]

• Disney Must-Dos:

  • Recommends the drive-in theater at Hollywood Studios and Crystal Palace at Magic Kingdom.
  • “Just seeing so many people that are around…being able to like enjoy that experience…was way better than seeing the parade period.” [38:38]
  • Disney’s Yacht Club is a standout hotel, especially for parents.

• On Disney Food:

  • Lindsie is unimpressed by "foodie" favorites like Dole Whip and turkey legs, humorously calling the latter “traumatizing” due to her childhood.

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8. Random Preferences & Southern Vernacular

[42:01–43:21]

• Lindsie hates cold cuts and prefers her sandwiches (“subs”) heated.
• Pokes fun at regional differences:
  • “What the hell is a hoagie?” [42:45]
  • Adds “hoagie” to her list of least favorite words, alongside “moist.”

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9. Favorite Local Eats

[45:41–47:28]

• Jackson’s favorite is Johnny’s Pizza, particularly their Alfredo pasta.
• Lindsie and Jackson have fun with sushi dates—Jackson opts for cucumber rolls and edamame, while Lindsie goes for spicy shrimp or tempura rolls.

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10. Listener Q&A: Relationships & Mental Health

[57:15–63:26]

Marriage & Panic Attacks

• Caller asks about supporting her husband with anxiety/panic attacks who refuses medication. Lindsie and Madison suggest therapeutic communication and counseling but stress personal boundaries.
  • “If it's affecting a marriage or, like, a home life…maybe a therapeutic setting to have those conversations would be best.” [58:15]

Leaving Abusive Relationships

• Caller struggles with guilt after her abusive partner (who was also supportive during illness) is jailed.
• Lindsie affirms mixed emotions are valid, but physical/emotional safety must come first.
  • “Until you fix you, you can't be who you need to be for anybody else. Like if your cup's not full, you can't fill anybody else's up.” [62:36]

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11. Notable Moments & Quotes

• On Boundaries:

  • “I need to be in, like, boundary therapy.” —Lindsie [08:02]

• On Parenting Independence:

  • “He's more independent, but then it's also hard because he's my only one. Speaking—who needs me now?” —Lindsie [07:08]

• On Divorce Decisions:

  • “If I had to do it all over again, I would have listened to my gut instinct from the jump.” —Lindsie [20:49]

• On Only-Child Energy:

  • “I love my independence, and I thrive in it.” —Madison [34:35]

• On Disney food:

  • “Turkey legs… when I see people walking around with it, it's literally the size of an entire turkey... I'm so traumatized from that, from my childhood...” —Lindsie [41:32]

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12. Memorable Listener Note

[63:32–64:13]

• Caller Nina reflects:

  • “I really genuinely believe you're going to enter in a phase of your life… where you're just going to be full and whole and God's really going to show through your life and you're going to find you're happy and you're going to find peace and healing… that's prophetic. So good luck. Love you.” [63:32]

• Lindsie responds with gratitude, acknowledging the journey and the impact of listeners’ support as she navigates ongoing life changes.

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Additional Resources & Practical Tips

• Home Organization: Use Amazon-labeled elastic bands for linen closets; Container Store baskets for pantries.
• Disney Travel: Use Lightning Lanes, pre-register rides, and consider Disney’s Yacht Club for family stays.
• Daily Devotionals: Recommends a daily devotional app and devotionals from Altered State.
• Hair Care: Currently returning to Olaplex products, with a tip that Purology is a great, affordable alternative.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:15] Home design and organizing tips
• [05:28] Adjusting to having a teenager
• [07:47] On setting (or not setting) boundaries
• [09:05] Pilates and routine after life changes
• [17:23] Divorce reflections and family cycles
• [33:14] Only-child perspectives and independence
• [37:20] Disney must-dos and park tips
• [57:15] Caller advice on marriage, mental health, and abuse
• [63:32] Listener’s prophetic encouragement

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Tone & Style

Lindsie’s conversation is warm, open, humorous, and honest—often self-deprecating but always approachable. Madison matches with down-to-earth commentary and active listener engagement, creating a supportive, authentic atmosphere permeated by Southern charm.

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Takeaways

A relatable, wide-ranging episode that weaves together family stories, honest admissions about personal struggles, and practical lifestyle advice. Heartfelt listener interactions and candid confessions make this episode a rich conversation on motherhood, independence, boundaries, resilience, and the beauty of embracing what comes next.

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Transcript

[Stassi Schroeder]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maybe I'm just like, weird. Maybe I'm crunchy. This is the Southern Tea with Lindsay Chrisley. I think it's so funny when you get Christmas cards and all of these people write their children's accomplishments on the back. I don't love them. A Southern girl and a boy mom who's trying to navigate life while staying true to her roots. I am a functioning, non functioning human being right now. Join Lindsay each week as she swears to spill the tea, the whole tea, and nothing but the tea that is the tea. Here's Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Southern Tea. I'm coming to you guys from Dallas and just wanted to say thank you so much for all of the kind messages and love from last week's episode. I really appreciate it. I love having Becky on and I just think that she is such a gem and can't wait to talk to her more on this podcast. And Madison actually put together a Q and A for this episode and she is going to be narrating the questions, so we're going to jump right in.

[Madison]

Hi. Hi, everybody. So first off, we're starting on Facebook. You guys should join the Facebook group. We're very active in there. So this is from Shannon. Her first question is, can you share some design secrets? What are some things you've learned by hiring decorators, etc.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think it's a really interesting question. Because if I had to do it all over again, I've done it two different ways. So when I moved into what I dubbed my divorce house, I left my marital home with nothing. So I kind of gave design inspo to a local designer and left my house for, like, 12 hours and came back, and all of my stuff was there, like, put together, set up. Great option, very expensive. With my new house, I hired a design team or design firm and gave all of the inspo, Argued, fought all the way down to ceiling fans. And if I had to do it over again, I think that I probably would use. What are those? Have you seen it on Instagram, Madison? It's like where you take the dimensions of your room and they kind of. You give them inspo and they put it all together.

[Madison]

Yeah, like a virtual interior designer.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, virtual interior designer. If I had to do it over again, I probably. Probably would do something virtual. Decorating and furniture, I feel like, is very expensive. There are ways that you can cut cost by taking more expensive pieces and then adding, you know, like the Wayfair rug and stuff like that. My house literally took an entire year to get complete. Wow.

[Madison]

Okay. So I guess a follow up on that is, which spot in your house is organized the best and how do you do it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Which spot in my house is organized the best?

[Madison]

Is your pantry super organized? Is your closet super organized?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would say my closet is really organized. Not as organized as what I would like it to be. The sheets section in the house. Okay. So used to my sheets, there was no rhyme or reason to like anything. There might be a queen top with a king bottom with twin pillowcases. Like, no rhyme or reason. I went on Amazon and found these. Got the inspo from some person that, like, puts out, like, tips and tricks for the house, and they're like these little elastic bands, and they say, like, king or queen. So it was hours worth of work, Madison. Hours worth of work. But it is one of, like, my favorite parts of my house to be able to just go in and know that absolutely everything is king or everything is queen. Baskets in my pantry are all Container Store. It's pretty organized. Still not as organized as I would like it to be.

[Madison]

Okay, kind of switching gears. How are you adjusting to having a teenager?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you adjust? I don't know. I. Is 13, like, really a teenager? Yes, by number. I don't really think he's that different than when he was 12. He's very. One thing that I've learned since he entered middle school, and this was not the first, like, semester or quarter of middle school, he was very, very high strung leaving elementary, and then it took him, like, a whole quarter to settle down. And now I feel like he's kind of found his place at school and so he has more of a place at home. I do find him wanting to be more independent and more alone now than what he ever wanted to be before. Like, he can't wait until spring until he can bust the streets wide open with the electric scooter and a fishing rod. So I don't know. It's hard because used to, before I moved into this house, he slept with me every single night. And now that, like, really doesn't happen. So that's been an adjustment. He's also started to get himself up by his own alarm over the past, like, two weeks, and I am not used to that at all.

[Madison]

What are you normally used to? Like, waking him up, being like, come on, Jackson, let's go.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah. Like, multiple times also. And then you. I will start the shower, go into his bedroom. And he still might not be in the shower, and the water's been running for 20 minutes. So it has been. It's nice because he's more independent, but then it's also hard because he's my only one.

[Madison]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Speaking who needs me now? You know, like, who needs me?

[Madison]

Yeah. Speaking of, has Jackson ever asked you for a sibling? If so, like, how do you handle that situation or explain it to him?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, it always happens when we've been around somebody that, like, if he's been around a friend that has a brother, he'll come home and immediately be like, I always wanted a brother. And then he's like, am I ever gonna get a brother? I'm like, no. Like, that's not happening.

[Madison]

Okay, so no more kids for you. You're not gonna pop up with, like, two or three more?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know what I'm gonna do, Madison.

[Madison]

Okay. Jade asked, what area do you feel like you set the most boundaries in your life, and what area do you think the least?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I would say I feel like my

[Stassi Schroeder]

answer is going to be different than

[Lindsay Chrisley]

what everybody else would say. My answer should be, most areas in my life that I set boundaries nowhere. I talk about boundaries and don't have them, so, period. You know what I mean? It's like, I need to be in, like, boundary therapy.

[Madison]

Yeah, I think a lot of therapy could help you. Like, you could say, yeah, I'll put that boundary up. But actually putting it into place is hard.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I talk about boundaries all the time. I'm like, I should be doing X, Y and Z. And it's like, I need a bedtime routine. I've been talking about that probably for five years. And it's like, I need to go to bed by 10 so that I can be up and be functioning like that should be a non negotiable. I talk about it all the time. I don't do it. I say things in a relationship. I don't do it. With Jackson constantly pushing the boundary and I give in. So, like, boundaries are not a thing that I know what to do with.

[Madison]

Okay, well, you mentioned a routine and I know you love your Pilates and somebody was wondering, did you ever take your Pilates instructor class? Do you plan on becoming an instructor? What's the update with that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I had been really excited to be able to do that. However, it was way more extensive than what I was initially led to believe. I was told it was like 60 hours. And yes, there is a portion of it that is 60 hours, but then there's a whole other portion. Like it's taking the average person to get certified to do Pilates almost a year in training to get the certification. And the first part of it is 60 hours for every weekend until you complete the 60 hours. So I don't really have the ability. I have Jackson every other weekend. And I'm not quite sure that I want to be training in a Pilates studio for eight or nine hours on the weekends that I don't have him also, Madison, I don't know if you are aware, but the first 10 weeks of 2026 turned into a show. So that plan kind of went to the wayside when everything else did.

[Madison]

Oh, I just thought you were just throwing everything to the wayside to become a Pilates instructor. Was that now part of the plan?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I wish that could have been the plan. Like that was the plan, in fact. And then the plan just kind of went. Life had other plans.

[Madison]

Right, Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I do still, however, want to do that. I think though, my studio where I take classes only does it like once a year. So I would have to wait until the next calendar year to get certified through that certification program. Probably in my best interest.

[Madison]

Okay, I. I mean, I can certainly agree with that. What is it about Pilates for you? Why do you like going? Is it like a mental release? Do you like the routine? Do you go? You go in the morning, right? Most mornings.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, that's another thing. So I was going pretty much every like 9am class and then somehow, like my schedule got off and I found myself going to like 6pm and then sometimes I might be in there at 4pm and then 10am So I mean with the schedule and everything that's transpired over the first part of the year, it's been hard to kind of stay routine with that and then obviously elephant in the room. I have not been doing lots of Pilates through breakup so if I decide to go I'll just get on the app and try to book a last minute class and then if I don't, then I don't go.

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[Madison]

I think that's so real too. I think it's hard to put ourselves first when you're going through a hard season of life. Whether that be a breakup, some personal, other things going on, whatever it is. It's so hard to. But it is so important to even that last minute decision and say, hey, I'm gonna book that class. Do something for yourself.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I found my bed. Like, I have found myself bedrotting mostly over the last two and a half weeks. Pilates hasn't really, you know, been on my priority list, which is kind of sad because at one point it was like parenting, relationship, Pilates, like in that order. And then two of the three went away. And so I just needed a little time, you know, to just.

[Madison]

Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I will say it is a mo. It is. It is a release in a lot of ways and I feel like people can understand. Like, you do Pilates, right?

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Do you go to the regular gym?

[Madison]

I go to mat Pilates. I do like a hot map.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, mat Pilates is hard as hell.

[Madison]

Yeah, I like it much better because I'm not really coordinated. So whenever I'm on the Reformer, I'm literally, I'm like, I can't. They're like, put your arm up and you're. I'm like, I'm going to fall on my face.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So wait, you think that mat Pilates is easier than Reformer?

[Madison]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Really? Because of the balance.

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Is it balance or coordination, Madison?

[Madison]

Okay, it's. It's a little bit of both. I'm not coordinated at all. I don't even know how to like throw a ball. That's like the issue. Like, if somebody comes at me and says, oh, catch this ball, it's nine times out of ten gonna fall on the floor. So.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, like, when you bird dog, you don't.

[Madison]

No, not on the Reformer. If I'm on the ground, I think I'm fine. So, like, I think it's just like because I'm a little taller, you know, I'm only like 5 9, but I can't even touch my toes. So.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

What you said I'm only 5 9?

[Madison]

Yeah. That's tall as hell. I don't know. I live in New York, you know,

[Lindsay Chrisley]

like, give me some of those inches. Girl, like, so I'm not as.

[Madison]

So what I'm saying is I'm not as flexible, you know, so it's hard for me. But I do like Matt, and I

[Lindsay Chrisley]

am super flexible person. Like, think of Gumby, you know, like back in the day. Like, that little green carrot, like, that's me at parties. And I love it so much. It is a emotional stress relief. It is a mental stress relief. I love the aspect of it being so routine. Like, when it's routine, I work very well, as, you know, off of a Google Calendar and a schedule.

[Madison]

I. I agree. Yeah. Scheduling, Google Calendar. Time zones, guys. Time zones are a thing. Learn that today. Somebody asked, how did you know? Kind of changing gears here. How did you know divorce was the right thing? Currently going through one and questioning if it's the right decision.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is, like, a loaded question. Number one, I. I look back on the entire situation, and I know that people, like, ride hard for thinking that Will and I are ever going to get back together. And it just blows my mind. It's like every time I go through a breakup, it's like, we're really, like, rooting for you, for your. For your marriage. And I'm like, my mar. Like, my marriage was gone.

[Voicemail Callers]

For.

[Madison]

Marriage is over.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, yeah. So I. I get it. But I never wanted to be my parents. And I think that I. I distinctively remember. I don't think I've actually ever talked about this before. I distinctly remember one night after Jackson was born. I think he was roughly around six months old. And I had called my dad, and I said, hey, this isn't gonna work. Like, I need to get out of this marriage. And he brought my sister and Julie over, and they watched Jackson. My dad and I went to a pizza place with Will. We had the conversations, and I just repeatedly said, I'm done. At that point, I think my dad was probably trying to do the right thing by saying, like, this is the decision that y' all have made, and y' all brought a child into this world, and you need to figure it out. And so at that point, I didn't necessarily feel like I had the support to divorce. I. I felt. I don't want to say trapped. I think that's maybe the wrong word. I didn't have enough confidence to make that decision on my own without feeling like I was going to disappoint someone. And I feel like it's so important to be able to have a support system around you. However, I think support systems also can jade decisions as well. I've seen it through breakups. You know, everybody has an opinion, just like we all have. You got to be really careful. I would highly suggest going to a therapist that specializes in stuff like that. And when, you know, you know, I knew when Jackson was six months old, I stuck it out. I thought, buy the bigger. Build the bigger house, buy the new cars, disassociate from certain friendships. Only spend time as a family of three. Shut yourself off from the world. And then that lasted till 2017. And then I filed, moved to Nashville, came back to Atlanta, stayed with him until 2021, I think, is when we divorced. If I had to do it all over again, I would have listened to my gut instinct from the jump.

[Madison]

Yeah, I think that's so hard for so many women that are. You're stuck in a cycle, and especially if there's kids involved, you're like, great, I'm going to impact my kid. This is no longer just me breaking up. And, you know, it's over. So I think it's hard when you come from it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Right. Like, it's hard when you come from divorce. You don't want to continue to repeat cycles. And so, you know, I got into this mental mindset of I'm a lever. Like, I'm a quitter. And it was something that I should have quit before Jackson was even a year old. Yeah, I think he was under a year old. I don't even know if the world knows this, but I moved in with my nanny, and Will lived in our marital home, and Jackson and I left, and I think we were separated for six months that time, and then a couple of months in 2017, and then final in 2021.

[Madison]

Wow. Yeah. I mean, I think it's really hard. I mean, most Americans come from divorce. My parents are divorced. Everybody I know, nine times out of ten, their parents are divorced. When parents are actually together for a long time, I'm like, oh, wow, that's shocking.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, unfortunately, that's what it looks like. You know, it's. It's more of when you come from it and then you've done it, and you see people who are together that have been together. Like, for example, my grandparents before he died. It's like, you know, 30 years together or however many years, and it's like, how did. How did that happen?

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And that should be the norm, but I think it's not.

[Madison]

Yeah, I. I agree. I think it's just like, people, at least back then when my parents had me, like, my parents didn't even know each other for A year before my mom got pregnant and they were just casually seeing each other and it's like, well, let's go get married, because that's what you do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, so you were a casual one too?

[Madison]

That was like. Yeah, early on in dating for them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I don't even know what my parents were doing other than clearly fucking around, but definitely wasn't. I wasn't the plan.

[Madison]

Yeah. I think things are very, very different, especially when kids getting brought into the mix and trying to not repeat cycles and all that stuff.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

One, it's hard. I was just talking when I was recording with Kale yesterday about divorce and it's like, if you look back on all the decisions that you've made in your life, would you have still chose that person? And obviously hindsight's 20 20, but no, like, as 36 year old Lindsay, I wouldn't have made the same choices that I made at 19 and 22 years old. So I think that that's very hard. And when you have children, you have an obligation to those children. It's no longer just you. Right. Like when you're in a dating relationship and there's no kids involved, it's just you and that other person. So the obligation is to your own self. When you're talking divorce and there's kids involved, you have to think of your children, you have to think of yourself. There's, you know, thought process. Okay, how is this also going to affect extended family? Like all of those things. And it is one of the heaviest weights I feel like, that anyone can carry. And, you know, unfortunately it is a weight that you carry if you have children until they're grown. And it even goes past 18 years old because there's going to be weddings, there's going to be grandchildren, there's going to be all of these things. Like that person that you were married to and have children with is never going to go away.

[Madison]

Yeah. They're going to be with you forever and ever and ever. So choose wisely.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, did your parents get along?

[Madison]

So they didn't. So they got divorced. They separated when I was three, officially divorced when I was five. So. And I'm an only child, so I knew, I never knew them together. So they, I would say throughout my childhood, it was kind of like dad had me every other weekend. And then when I entered high school, it was like, okay, you can decide what you want to do. And I was like, okay, cool. So I stayed with my mom, saw my dad, he picked me up. He was more involved, but I think definitely as an adult, and when I needed support from my parents, they both pulled up to the plate and like, okay, it doesn't matter. We're gonna figure this out.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So, so interesting. I have a question for you. Do you think that it's easier? There's a lot of people that just kind of like, skate through life and, you know, they've been married and they have these children and they're like, okay, well, we're gonna wait until they're grown and then the kids go off to college and then mom and dad divorce. Do you think that it is easier to go ahead and pull the plug when you know the plug needs to be pulled? Or do you think it's easier with the kids being older and out of the house? Like, which child in that situation do you think suffers more?

[Madison]

I think if you have your kid grow up in a toxic relationship and be around that cycle when you guys are teetering on divorce is worse in the long run because I feel like your frontal lobe isn't fully developed right, till, what, 25, right? So you're.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And for some of us, live audience included, the frontal lobe might still not be developed.

[Madison]

Right? Well, men are very delayed, so it makes sense. But I think, yeah, I think just I'm a very, like, pull the band aid off type of person. So I think as hard as a conversation it is, I think it's better to be like, hey, this isn't working out. And depending on the kid's age, like, explain it to them in that way. And I think, yeah, you don't want your child to grow up and think this is love, you know, because when they want to get into relationship, one day they're gonna, oh, this is what my parents did. They stayed together when I knew they should have been divorced. So I think, I don't know, trying not to repeat toxic cycles. It's better to just get divorced.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

You I think what do you think that you said that you don't have any memories of your parents being together. Neither do I and so I've had that Conversation through therapy about like, what is that type of therapy that you can do that like unlocks trauma so you can like deal with it like it's there, but like you don't know about it.

[Madison]

I don't, I don't, I know, I don't know what it is exactly called, but I know what you're talking about.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So she had asked me, she was like, do you want to whatever the type of therapy is called. She's like, do you want to do this? And she's like, there's two caveats to this situation. What you don't know, if you have the mentality of what you don't know cannot hurt me, then that's advisable. If you have the mentality of what I don't know, I want to know, then like, that's something that you need to work through in therapy. I can tell you now confidently, I would never want to unlock traumas that I'm not consciously aware of. I did not struggle with my parents divorce. I struggled with how they co parented or lack of co parenting and lack of being able to be decent people to each other. That's very triggering to me. But as far as struggling with the divorce, I didn't struggle with it at all. And I would, I would even argue to say I somewhat did Jackson a disservice until he was 8 years old. I should have, if I would have pulled the plug when he was 6 months old versus 8 years old. There's certain things that we currently navigate that I know I would not be navigating if I would have done it this.

[Madison]

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. I never saw my parents together at all to the point where it was during COVID I'll never forget we were going through old photos and it was my parents wedding photo. And I've never seen my parents like hold hands or anything. And I was like, oh my God, this is so cool. My mom's like, is it cool? And I'm like, well, it is to me because I've never seen you guys together.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So do they live in the same

[Madison]

state like they did for a long time?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They.

[Madison]

I grew up in South Florida, so I grew up in Miami and then Fort Lauderdale. So they lived within 30 minutes of each other till 2018. So he was around a lot and vice versa. So. And I'm an only child, so it makes things different because it's not like I can hear a filtered conversation through my siblings. It's like, no, we just tell you what it is, is so

[Lindsay Chrisley]

only children. It's so interesting to me. I'm like, what would that be like? I mean, I feel like I was, like, made to be an only child. I used to tell my parents that all the time. Like, why did you keep doing this to me? But I don't know. I don't know, like, what that mindset would even look like to be an only child. Like, it would have to be somewhat lonely, but at the same time, it would have to be very fulfilling, I think.

[Madison]

I mean, I grew up. I always. My mom especially, like, ages, like, 5 to 10. I always was doing something after school, right? I was always meeting friends. I always had social plans. And I think as I was growing up in, like, middle school and everything, I just grew extreme independence. Like, even to this day. Like, last weekend, I didn't have any plans, and people would be like, oh, poor me. I'm like, yes, I'm gonna go to Pilates when I want to. I'm gonna go read my book for four hours and put my phone in a lake. Like, I. I absolutely love it. And I think in today's society, so many people struggle with being alone, and maybe that comes from how they grew up. Maybe that comes from being in, like, a toxic relationship. But I love my independence, and I thrive in it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm the oldest of five, and I absolutely love to be able to take a nap by myself.

[Madison]

Do you like doing things alone, though? Like, what's your level of independence?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If I can't do what I want to do with the person that I want to do it with, then, yes, I would prefer to do those things alone, but not really, you know.

[Madison]

Mm. Like, you like.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I don't.

[Madison]

Company.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I like the company. But I do think that that somewhat growing up in a large family, like, somebody was always there, and that truly was something that I struggled with a little bit after my divorce. Jackson was gone half the time. Right. And then, like, what am I supposed to do with me?

[Madison]

Yeah. No, I get that. I grew up in a small family. It was just, like, me, my grandparents, and my mom and my dad. Like, that's it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So no drama?

[Madison]

Oh, there was drama. There was drama. Let me tell you. There was drama. But, yeah, it was just I. I always craved, like, a large family, so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, maybe you'll have one Madison.

[Madison]

Maybe. But I'm gay, so it's expensive. So if anybody wants to donate to the GoFundMe, I'm just kidding.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're, like, on second thought. GoFundMe. Okay, next question.

[Madison]

All right, let's do a little Lighter question. Where do you get your daily devotional readings from?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There's a daily devotional app. I can send you the link so that we can post it. And then also I have one by my bed that is from Altered State.

[Madison]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They have a lot of really like, isn't Alter State Christian company?

[Madison]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, they have a lot of really great devotionals. Normally they come out with them like seasonally. I get one from there every around like November or December before the new year.

[Madison]

Okay, nice.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And the one that I currently have is like I'm not into adult coloring. Like, I don't know, I'm good personally. Personality, that is. You know what I mean? I'm not into it, but I was gifted a coloring book, like Devotional Situation. So when you open it up, on one side of the page is a coloring page and on the other side is the devotion. I read the Devotion, but I've never colored anything in it. But they've got really, really cute stuff at Altered State.

[Madison]

Okay. Why I couldn't imagine Lindsay, imagine you're in bed, right? You're reading your devotional and you're like, let me whip out my coloring pencils one second.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can you imagine like if I did that, commit me.

[Madison]

She's down bad. If you hear that Lindsay's suddenly coloring. So with you going to Disney recently, what was your favorite thing to do? What's your must do's at Disney?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Favorite thing to do at Disney? I would say my two favorite activities that we did at Disney was the drive in theater at Hollywood Studios and the Crystal Palace Magic Kingdom. Neither of them disappointed on a high. Madison. Like, I don't know what it is about Disney, but they just do it so well and the costumes are just pristine and the, I don't know, the little carriages and stuff that they bring them on and it's like this full blown production that's just so good and just seeing so many people that are around. I'm not even a people person. Like I actually do not like people. But seeing all of the people around being able to like enjoy that experience and they're as excited at. Well, I don't know if anybody was as, as excited as me, but more

[Madison]

than all the kids at Disney, I think you're the most excited for sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Watching her light up like that was way better than seeing the parade period. It was like me at 5 years old.

[Madison]

That's amazing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Imagine me at 5. Such a good time. I highly, highly recommend the. It's not called Fast Pass, but Lightning Lanes, like the Lightning Lanes Purchase them before your park day pre register your first three rides. Stay on top of it. Once you use one Lightning Lane, you can immediately activate another one. And so I do kind of feel like that's a little bit of an art. You've got to be like a really, like. Like Disney girly to get behind doing something like that. And I think it probably drove the people that I was with crazy. But honestly, a really good time. And we stayed at Disney's Yacht Club, and I thought the hotel was wonderful for parents. Well, obviously it would only be parents listening to this, but parents or grandparents. Disney Yacht Club was totally worth every penny that was spent. Disney is expensive just period. But it's right off the boardwalk. They have a cool little, like, speak easy. Inside the hotel, the food was. Was good for Disney.

[Madison]

People, like, rave about Disney food. Do you think Disney food's not that great?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I don't like that. Is one thing that I cannot get behind. Every single time I go to Disney, I watch the reels of, like, the foodies that go. And I tell myself, like, I'm gonna go to all of these places, and I'm gonna get these things that everybody talks about. Number one, I don't even like the things that I would be getting, so it's like a waste of money. But number two, like, pineapple dole whip.

[Madison]

That sounds good to me.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, that sounds terrible to me.

[Madison]

Do you like a sweet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Try not ice cream. What? Yeah.

[Madison]

Do you like a sweet treat?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. Live audience says no.

[Madison]

Well, there you go. I mean, do you like the chicken leg? Isn't that, like, a big thing?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, my God. Okay, so when I was growing up, my mom and her still her husband, but it was. My stepdad would take us to Disney almost every single year, and we would always want to go to the restaurants. And he's like, no, we're not doing all of that. We'll do, like, one character, whatever. And then we've got to get from, like, the carts. And he would try to get us to share turkey legs. And, like, I'm so traumatized from that, from my childhood that when I see people walking around with it, it's literally the size of an entire turkey.

[Madison]

Yeah. I love how you just said you were traumatized by a turkey leg. That's a great. Put it on a T shirt.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just. I. I can't. I. I don't even like turkey. I don't think it's, like, dry.

[Madison]

I don't. I don't like it. I never have it during Thanksgiving, so

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm like, are you, like, turkey or ham girl?

[Madison]

I'm a honey baked ham girl.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm. I don't like either.

[Madison]

Really?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't like a cold meat.

[Madison]

Valid.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, do you eat cold cuts?

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, this is a psycho thing about me. If I go to, like, a sub shop, I always ask them if they can heat it up because I do not like cold meat.

[Madison]

Oh, my gosh. That's very. That's very psychotic behavior. No, in New York, we have a lot of delis and, like, every corner, and they can make you a sandwich within, like, two minutes. So.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so I. It's funny that you say that because we were having a conversation at dinner last night, and Kale was like, what do you all call a sandwich? And I'm like, a sandwich? And she's like, no, like the sandwich with, like, the long bread. I said, a sub. She said, no, it's called a hoagie.

[Madison]

What?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, what the hell is a hoagie?

[Madison]

Never heard.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, why do I hate that word? No, I don't like ho.

[Madison]

Ho.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, okay. So it says it's a Philadelphia style sandwich served on long, crusty Italian roll, typically loaded with cold cuts, provolone, cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, topped with olive oil, vinegar, and spices. That literally is a sub sandwich.

[Madison]

Yeah, it's literally. Yeah. I don't know who made up the word hoagie, but the rebranding was awful. So it's a sub sandwich.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like it. Do you like the word hoagie?

[Madison]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's, like, on my list with. What's the words that I hate? Moist and.

[Madison]

Oh, I hate the word moist. Awful.

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[Madison]

Yep. Speaking of food, what's you and Jackson's favorite place to go to eat together? Are you guys foodies like that or no?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm kind of a foodie, but I normally reserve being a foodie for dates. Like with an adult trying to think somewhere that we.

[Madison]

You don't know.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Jackson loves a place called Johnny's Pizza.

[Voicemail Callers]

We.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He gets a Alfredo something there. We tried to make it homemade at home and he said it was absolutely terrible. It was absolutely delicious. But he always wants to go there and get that pasta. He and I have been doing sushi like a decent amount recently.

[Madison]

What's your sushi order?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

How do you say that word? Sashimi. Let's see what else? I, I like like a spicy. What is that called? A spicy shrimp roll. Is that what I get? A spicy shrimp roll? Shrimp tempura roll.

[Madison]

Oh, okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Let's see. Sometimes just a, just a temporal.

[Madison]

Okay, Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think that's what I'm going with. And Jackson, he, I mean, he might as well just get like rice with some cucumber because it would be so much cheaper. But he wants it in the roll. Right, but it's just a cucumber roll. And then he'll get an order of edamame. He's really good about eating those beans, which is kind of weird because the only other bean that I've ever known that child to. To like to eat is a pea.

[Madison]

Really?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

A pee. Can you imagine? Can you be. Imagine being somebody being like, the only bean I like is a pee.

[Madison]

No, I can't. Okay, next question. Jen was wondering, have you talked to nanny lately? Time is precious and so is she.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have actually. She tried to call me yesterday and I tried to call her back and her phone's off and please tell me why. I immediately, like, start thinking of Nancy Guthrie.

[Madison]

Oh my God.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, I don't understand why my mind went there. I got done with dinner last night and I saw that she had tried to call, so I tried to call her back while I was in the bathroom and called three times and the phone's off and it's like, why would your phone be off at the time that the entire world is searching for another 80 year old woman?

[Madison]

Yeah, that case is really odd to me. Did you see? I'm not sure for 100, but I think they turned the house back to the family.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I had seen that there were cars that were like out of the house or like a larger police presence. And I. Is there a guest house at the house?

[Madison]

Maybe.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think there. I think there's some type of like guest house, something behind the house. And they allegedly were searching in there. And I do believe the house has been turned back over to the family, actually. It was so crazy. So you know how the Internet just trolls us all day every day?

[Madison]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm scrolling through Tick Tock and have you ever run across those page pages? I'm pretty sure they're like trying to rage bait us, but it said that Nancy Guthrie was found.

[Madison]

Oh my God.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And so I'm looking at like I'm watching this entire like 3 1/2 minute long video and I'm like this. I have seen nothing else. Like, how does this one Tick Tocker know about this? And then I Google it and it's like, no, the family has increased the ransom or whatever, whatever reward is to a million dollars.

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And did you see that her daughter has not returned to her position with the Today show yet?

[Madison]

No. I don't know. She's going to like, what, is she gonna smile at 7am and just be like, here's the news going on in the world. My mom's missing her death. Like, how do you move on from that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, not that, not that it's anything the same, but like, the only thing that I can relate it to is Kayla and I'll be going through some of the most traumatic like, and it's like, oh, let's go Kiki on a podcast. Like, it's still gotta happen.

[Madison]

Yeah, I know. It's so. It's so crazy. Like, I think, I mean, she can retire. She'll be fine. So.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know.

[Madison]

We'll see.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Retire from like Today show?

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, do they have retirement?

[Madison]

I would assume so. She's been there for over 10 years, so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, wow. Yeah. What a lot.

[Madison]

I mean, even back in the day. Remember the Matt Lauer case? And he had to be like, let go. He, I bet is fine too. I mean, they make so much money, so. Yeah. Okay, let's do like two more. People love your hair, Lindsay. What's your best blonde hair product? What do you like using?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I switch it up, but I had my hair done this morning and I think I'm gonna go and buy the whole Olaplex line, which I did. Used to use Olaplex all the time until it became a trend on social media where hair stylists were like, they were so upset, remember, because it used to only be like a salon, like in salon product. And then they started selling it. I can't remember if it was like Ulta or Sephora or wherever you could get it. And they said it was damaging so many girls hair because they weren't properly using the product. So I just threw all my Olaplex away. Well, when I was having my hair done this morning, she was like, oh, well, you need to get like this leave in conditioner and you need to get this oil, which I already had the oil. But I think I'm gonna go back to all Olaplex. I never remember having any damage from Olaplex products. I've also heard great things if you're looking for like a more affordable line, the purology line. Have you ever tried that?

[Madison]

I have not. I've tried Olaplexa. I like it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Did you like it or no?

[Madison]

I liked it. Yeah. It was a little too heavy on my hair, so I go for something more lighter usually. So.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But also, my hair is not gonna look like this in like a week. So could you imagine? I just like Britney Spears it and I'm like in a TMZ article, like smashing somebody's windshield with a baseball bat with no hair.

[Madison]

I mean, I hope not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But like, it's giving. It's giving that.

[Madison]

Do you believe all press is good press? No. Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But anybody else in the same business, I feel like would disagree with me. But it's like where you're at in life, right? Like your thought process, like how you consider your job again, going Back now, full circle moment. Like, boundaries. Like, what is too much information? Yeah. You're gonna get clicks and likes and controversy stirred up and whatever off of bad press, I guess. But, like, why would you want that for your life at the big age of 34? You know, I definitely agree.

[Madison]

And it can get just exhausting to having everybody's opinion constantly analyzing your life when they're not in your shoes, and it's just ridiculous.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's hard because we were talking about yesterday perisocial relationships and those relationships. I don't care what anybody says. Like, they're like a real. It's not a real relationship, but, like, perisocial relationships are real. And people get so invested in whatever story it could be a story that they concocted in their mind, but they get so invested in a person or a character that they follow absolutely everything that they're doing, and they make up whatever narrative fits, whatever it is that they want to think. And it feels kind of, like, dangerous to me. I've never. I don't. I don't feel like I have the personality to have, like, a Perry social relationship. You know what I mean?

[Madison]

I mean, I had one, especially when I was younger. I used to be obsessed with Fifth Harmony, if you remember them. And. What, you've never heard of Fifth Harmony?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. What is Fifth Harmony? Do I need to Google this?

[Madison]

Yes. You don't know what Fifth Harmony.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, but were you a psychopath? Because I need to know this.

[Madison]

I'm not a psychopath, but I had a Twitter fan account, and they would always interact with their fans and.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, what?

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So you were one of those that, like, you were constantly tweeting them?

[Madison]

I was, like, 10 years ago, 15, whenever that was when I was younger, so. Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But what's, like, really weird to me is the perisocial relationships, like podcasts, for example. I love the people who listen to us because it means that they have, like, a level of investment to tune into our lives every. Every single week, right?

[Madison]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But then there are some people who follow from the sidelines, and then they'll kind of go off the Internet for seven days, and then some shit's gone down, and now they're trying to enter the chat, and it's like, don't start sending me messages now. Because you weren't invested in anything else that we were doing. Like, you're trying to put the pieces of the puzzles together, and you're not getting all the pieces unless you're listening and doing all the pieces.

[Madison]

Definitely. People just try to. I Don't know. Pick and choose what they want to actually listen to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, Madison, which one of these girls. I'm just gonna call you out. Which one of these girls did you have a crush on?

[Madison]

Camila?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The one that's like. Can I show you the.

[Madison]

Yeah, you could flip it around. The one that's in the center in the white shirt? Pretty sure, yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

With the pink shorts on.

[Madison]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah. I could totally see that. I mean, what was it that you were just like, yeah, that's my girl?

[Madison]

I don't really know. I think it's like, I started. I won like, a radio contest and I got free tickets to see them. So I went with my friend and then I met some other friends there, and they're like, oh, we're all on Twitter. I was like, okay, cool, I'll do it. And I'm an only. It goes back to the only child thing. I'm an only child. I love community. I'm always looking for community, so. So that was a thing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And. Yeah, but that's literally crazy. I've never heard of fifth Harmony ever in my entire existence until now.

[Madison]

That's kind of crazy.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, it looks like a rip off of Spice Girls.

[Madison]

Well, everything's a ripoff of each other at the end of the day.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I can think of. I can think of tons of rip offs in this current moment, but it would be mean. So I can't do it.

[Madison]

It Exactly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

All right, y', all, now we're going to get into voicemails. Please don't forget, if you want to submit a question, ask advice, or just spill some tea, you can call our Southern tea hotline at 929-333-6386. Please leave us your message and we might play it on the show.

[Voicemail Callers]

Hi, Lindsay. Here's my Southern tea. Me and my husband have been together. Married one year and. But together for 10 years now. He's always had anxiety panic attacks, but refuses to take medication. And lately it's been getting pretty bad where the panic attacks happen out when we're out in public. And normally I don't let it get to me, but these past few months, it has been. And it's become really cringy. And I guess, I don't know, I'm not the best supporter when it comes to it because I do get upset and I kind of just like, throw it off as like, you ruined the day. The vibes are done. Let's just go home. The kids are. You already, like, scarred the kids. Without sounding rude or any. Am I wrong for that, or is there another way that I could go about it? Because this has been going on for about four years now, since the panic attacks have started, and he just refuses to get medication or get help. So I'm kind of just done with it. But I want to know, am I wrong for being upset or speaking my mind?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's like, I feel like that's so hard because how do you tell somebody if you love them, you should be having intentional, you know, conversations about that. And if it's affecting a marriage or, like, a home life, then, you know, maybe a therapeutic setting to have those conversations would be best. But it's. It's really hard, whether you're in a relationship with someone or not, to be like, you need to get on medication. Like, there might be other underlying reasons as to why he doesn't want to get on medication. There could be something that's going on in the marriage. There could be something that's going on just in the home life in general, with the. The kids, with work, whatever it is. And so my advice would be to go to therapy and try to work through some of those things and have the intentional conversations and ask. Ask the hard questions.

[Madison]

Yeah, I definitely agree. And I think it also comes down to patience. You know, like, what unconditional love can you give your partner? Like, you have to think about yourself and just think, okay, is my love for my husband conditional, or is it unconditional? Will you be there for him through everything? Because at least sounding by your tone, it's like, can you please give me a way out? Like, am I bad for feeling this way? Like, I want a way out, and that's okay, and that's valid, but I think you just have to be honest

[Lindsay Chrisley]

with yourself, you know, I mean, also, we're. We're speaking from a place of no experience with that person. Like, obviously she has four years of experience of this type of thing going on. So I don't want to diminish that. But a lot of times I feel like when people get to a place of being done, they start seeking validation from other places to be like, oh, well, this was the advice that I got. So I'm going to take it instead of taking accountability and being like, hey, this is, like, my choice. Like, this is what I need to do for myself. But I think if they have not tried therapy, I think that would probably be the best option.

[Madison]

Definitely. Definitely. Let's go to the second voicemail.

[Voicemail Callers]

I just have a question. So I was with my ex 13 years. We bought a house together and everything. And everything was great. He was amazing. He was there for me when I was so, so sick. But he started drinking very heavily, got very abusive, tried to throw me down the steps. He also got a gun and threatened to shoot me. And there's just so many, so much. He was arrested. I didn't press charges. But he is now in jail for three to four weeks. No. Yes, about three to four weeks. And I have a lot of guilt because of how good he was to me. And there's so much more to the story, but any advice would help. He was there for me when I was sick with. Sick with vomiting. And I have a lot of guilt that he's in jail because I was afraid to ask for help for him because I didn't know what he would do if I told anyone. But yeah, any advice would be great. And if you have any follow up questions, that would be great too. Thank you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wow, that's a loaded one for sure. Yeah.

[Madison]

Also I thought she was gonna say three to four years he was in jail, but only three to four weeks.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Three to four weeks. Like the throwing down the stairs is wild. I think it's very common to get caught up in the good of what we know of people. I'm guilty of it. I'm sure you're guilty of it to some degree. You get caught up in the good of what you know. So you try to hold on to that, to justify things that just like don't align anymore. And it seems to me in that situation that it's, it's gone that far. I don't know if therapy as a couple for those type of people would be something that I would ever advise somebody to do. Like he needs to get help for his own self before she puts her back, puts herself back in a position to try to work on anything that they have going on. Because until you fix you, you can't be who you need to be for anybody else. Like if your cup's not full, you can't fill anybody else's up 100.

[Madison]

And then also she didn't mention, but there might be kids around. You never know how that plays an impact. And, and I think it's a hard mental game being like she mentioned she was sick.

[Stassi Schroeder]

Right.

[Madison]

And he was there for her. Somebody that's valid that he is there for you. Somebody's there for you. But also at the same time, he could be very abusive and you could be stuck in that toxic cycle, which is not okay. And that doesn't invalidate the Good things he did for you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I mean, two things can be true, right? Like he could have been there for her and she can be thankful for that and, and hold special place for that time of their life while still acknowledging that like these are the issues and now I no longer feel safe in this and he needs to get help. Like he needs to be the one that does the work.

[Madison]

Definitely. Okay, let's just do one more. This one's really quick. It's 30 seconds.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay.

[Voicemail Callers]

Hey girl. Longtime listener here. My name is Nina. You can play it on the podcast. I just want to say this last podcast you seemed clear headed and at peace and real and genuine than you've ever sounded. And my people discernment is like always out of 10. I really genuinely believe you're going to enter in a phase of your life or era, if you will, where you're just going to be full and whole and God's really going to show through your life and you're going to find you're happy and you're going to find peace and healing. And I would even consider that like a feeling of that's prophetic. So good luck. Love you.

[Madison]

Not really advice, but I think just a nice little note to end off of.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's very sweet. I'm pretty sure Nina sends me sweet messages on Instagram as well. Also pretty sure if it's the same Nina that I'm thinking of. She also was on a reality show, also lives in Dallas where I currently am. And I just want to say before I wrap up this episode, like some of the messages that I have received over the last week and a half on top of the positive messages from my conversations with Becky last week, it's like life's a journey, you know what I mean? And we all go on one. And I'm in a much better place than I was last week, but still not great. And I just think things take time. I need to continue to sit back. I had different plans for today that like, I just, I can't do because I'm not ready to do that. And I think I'm just gonna give myself the time and the grace and the space to be able to deal with things on my own without publicly answering to anyone right now. And like, when that time comes, I will do it in a safe place with others involved so that both sides of story can be told. And I just want to thank everybody who listens for sticking around and hanging in there with me and. And I am now off to another studio to record. Am I allowed to say what I'm doing?

[Madison]

No, but it's going to be a fun episode.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I'm not allowed to say what I'm doing, but it's going to be a fun episode. And I'm just so excited for the next probably 12 weeks because there's just so many changes that are coming that I just. I want to, like, blab and tell everybody what's going on. Like, the conversation that Kayla and I were having in the bathroom last night at our work dinner, and it's like, all the things that people don't know about that I want them to know, but, like, they can't know because Lou. Slips sink ships. You know what I mean?

[Madison]

It will come with time, so it's gonna.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There'll be a time and a place, baby.

[Madison]

Yep.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I am leaving this. I'm blowing this joint, and I'll be the next studio soon. Okay, love you. Bye. Bye. Pluto TV has thousands of free movies and TV shows. I swear, if I'm lying, I'm dying.

[Madison]

This is the mindset.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Madison]

This is the mantra. Free.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Madison]

Never.

[Stassi Schroeder]

Hi, I'm Stassi Schroeder. On my podcast, I share candid updates from my personal life, chat with some

[Lindsay Chrisley]

of my best friends about what's going

[Stassi Schroeder]

on in our lives, give commentary on the latest pop culture headlines, and sometimes deep dive into rain random topics I'm

[Lindsay Chrisley]

obsessed with, like human design. It's a bit all over the place, but that's how I like it. And you will, too. Listen to my podcast Dossy. Wherever you get your podcasts.