Mormon Wives, Real Lives feat. Miranda Hope

Summary

The Southern Tea – "Mormon Wives, Real Lives" feat. Miranda Hope

Podcast: The Southern Tea
Host: Lindsie Chrisley
Guest: Miranda Hope (Secret Lives of Mormon Wives)
Date: March 11, 2026
Episode Theme: Realities of Mormon motherhood, influencer life, and the behind-the-scenes truths of reality TV, with special focus on Miranda Hope’s personal and professional evolution.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep with Miranda Hope—a star of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives—about her journey from Mormon wife and mom to social media influencer and reality TV figure. Lindsie Chrisley and Miranda touch on faith transitions, divorce, modern motherhood, viral scandals, co-parenting, navigating internet narratives, and the complex dynamic of reality TV production. Miranda offers candid insights into misconceptions about her life, the emotional rollercoaster of public vulnerability, and empowering moments of growth.

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Key Topics and Insights

1. Becoming a Reality TV Star: Motivation & Process

Timestamps: 01:06–04:57

• Miranda reflects on evolving personally and how sharing her life online became appealing after her divorce and emotional healing.
• "Not a lot of things in life... force you to be confrontational. I think that pushed me outside of my comfort zone... it's kind of like exposure therapy, I guess." (Miranda, 02:26)
• Casting for Secret Lives of Mormon Wives began amidst the viral "mom talk" and "swinging scandal" in their Mormon community.

2. The "Swinging Scandal" Explored

Timestamps: 04:00–06:55

• Miranda clarifies misconceptions, stating most of it was exaggerated and “high school nonsense and immature adults,” with no real partner-swapping.
• "We were involved, but it was more so like, the kissing games." (Miranda, 04:42)
• Miranda acknowledges underlying marital issues paved the way for their participation, but the swinging wasn’t the sole cause of her divorce.
• The ex-couple now co-parents their two children.

3. Navigating Mormon Community Reactions

Timestamps: 07:27–08:49

• The show’s announcement caused significant controversy locally, with many feeling "the term Mormon was just being used to push views," but the backlash has faded over time.

4. Miranda’s Faith Crisis & Family Dynamics

Timestamps: 08:49–10:40

• Her decision to leave the Mormon Church paralleled marital struggles and online drama.
• Miranda describes this time as a storm of judgment, fear of disappointing family, and deconstructing her belief system.
• "Faith crisis is definitely not for the weak, for sure." (Miranda, 10:39)

5. Influencer Evolution & Social Media

Timestamps: 10:47–11:30 / 14:29–15:19

• Miranda and Taylor’s social media journey began casually.
• "Posting silly little videos turned into what it is now." (Miranda, 11:27)
• Their brand partnerships, assistants, and nannies help manage busy schedules.
• "Creating that village," Miranda calls their support system.

6. Production Realities of Reality TV

Timestamps: 15:19–17:21

• The show films two seasons a year, with packed, unpredictable schedules.
• The cast has some agency, but much is determined last-minute by producers.

7. Family, Motherhood & Co-Parenting on Camera

Timestamps: 07:04–07:27, 22:27–26:00, 28:35–34:57, 57:02–58:53

• Children’s appearances are minimal, "by choice and for privacy," and her ex-husband is featured only under strict boundaries.
• "I want it to be very clean cut ties to start out… So we can rebuild our foundation separately." (Miranda, 25:09)
• Motherhood content and co-parenting stories resonate with her audience because of candidness and relatability.

8. Misconceptions, Gossip, and Internet Narratives

Timestamps: 21:26–22:20, 48:36–50:33

• Rumors about Miranda’s relationships persist, but she says audience assumptions have declined over time.
• She emphasizes a thick skin: "You have to come to terms with not being understood by everyone, or liked by everyone... sometimes it's safer to just be like, it is what it is." (Miranda, 49:03)

9. Growth, Therapy, and Setting Boundaries

Timestamps: 44:04–48:28

• Miranda attributes her emotional growth to therapy and intense life experiences.
• "I’m a completely different person... more evolution in these last two, three years… than ever before collectively in my life." (Miranda, 44:22)
• Maintaining her children’s emotional safety is a top boundary—even at the risk of conflict with production.

10. Authenticity vs. Editing: Breaking the Fourth Wall

Timestamps: 51:24–53:40

• Both host and guest discuss how reality TV edits create or exaggerate drama, with Miranda appreciating that their show breaks the "fourth wall," exposing production’s role.
• "[Breaking the fourth wall] helps build more trust between production and cast... if I feel like I’m being slighted... why would I want to be vulnerable about my life?" (Miranda, 55:23)

11. The Bachelorette Twist & Friendship

Timestamps: 20:09–21:02, 35:01–36:42

• Reacting to friend Taylor being cast as The Bachelorette, Miranda predicts a “crazy,” unique season.
• The group support each other’s projects regardless of media scrutiny or tabloid gossip.

12. The Realities of Divorce and Moving On

Timestamps: 19:00–21:02, 57:52–58:53

• Miranda shares she’s in no rush to date: "If I meet somebody, I kind of feel like it would just end up falling in my lap… I'm in no rush." (Miranda, 19:44)
• Continued joint family outings help maintain normalcy for her kids post-divorce.

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Notable Quotes

• On authenticity and evolving:
  "If I feel a certain way about something, I don't have an issue voicing it the way that I used to." (Miranda, 41:11)
• On misconceptions and the internet:
  "Do you really think that little of me?... That’s actually one of my biggest flexes is that I haven’t done that." (Miranda, 21:07)
• On co-parenting:
  "Our co-parent relationship is definitely not seamless... but we are so much healthier as co-parents than we were when married." (Miranda, 29:29)
• On reality TV:
  "You get used to [production]... sometimes it feels like a fifth appendage." (Miranda, 56:39)
• On defining success:
  "What makes me feel the most successful... is the peace that I have... and being able to maintain that independence, especially as a single mom." (Miranda, 62:03)

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Rapid Fire & Closing Insights

Timestamps: 58:57–64:03

• Miranda is excited about creative projects, especially new music.
• She selects brand partnerships based on what she genuinely uses: "If I use it in my, like, regular life, consistently."
• Peace, independence, and emotional resilience now define her sense of success.
• The unpredictability of reality TV ("it’s kind of like a cult itself") keeps her open to new possibilities but also wary of staying too long.

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Where to Find Miranda & Upcoming Projects

Timestamps: 64:13

• Miranda Hope: @mirandahope on TikTok and Instagram.
• Next season of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives premieres March 12 on Disney and Hulu.

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Memorable Moments

• Miranda recounts an Entertainment Tonight on-camera confrontation with a castmate, reflecting on how she’s learned to set boundaries and advocate for herself (“say it, say it!” – Taylor to Miranda, 40:41).
• Both Lindsie and Miranda poke fun at the mental resilience (and “mental illness”) it takes to survive reality TV:
  "If you have ever been on reality TV, part of the casting for that is you have to have a mental illness." (Lindsie, 64:47)
• The humor and self-awareness throughout the episode keep the tone vulnerable yet light.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The highs and lows of influencer and reality TV life are rarely as simple as they look online.
• Divorce, faith transition, and “scandal” can become catalysts for growth if faced honestly.
• Good co-parenting requires both parties’ cooperation; sometimes, parallel parenting is the only feasible path.
• Production realities and editing shape the story presented to audiences—reality TV is always a blend of real and produced.
• Maintaining inner peace and boundaries is crucial, even (or especially) under intense public scrutiny.

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For More:
Follow Miranda Hope on socials: [@mirandahope]
Catch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season Premiere: March 12, Disney & Hulu

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Transcript

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[Interviewer]

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[Miranda Hope]

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[Miranda Hope]

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[Interviewer]

That is the tea. Here's Lindsay. Good morning, Miranda. How are you?

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I'm good.

[Miranda Hope]

How are you?

[Interviewer]

I'm doing well. I got the screener for the new season of Secret Wives of Mormon Lives.

[Miranda Hope]

Pretty crazy.

[Interviewer]

It's so crazy. I kind of feel like your character has evolved from the, like when you first went on to now.

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, do you good. I feel like I evolved as a person, so I love.

[Interviewer]

Right. Yeah, it's so cool. Can you tell me what made you, like, inspired to kind of share your life online?

[Miranda Hope]

Well, when it came to season one, obviously I turned down the offer. I at the time was going through, well, not divorce yet, but my marriage was rocky and you know, you hear what reality TV is like, there's definitely, you know, a stigma, stereotype. And I think, you know, most of the time sharing your life online can be pretty detrimental in a lot of the, In a lot of ways. But I feel like as time went on and I, you know, after my divorce and I, I had done a lot of healing and growing and I think I just got to a point where I felt like I was in a really good headspace and, And I don't know, I just, I think when season two came around and they approached me, I just completely felt differently about it because when it was first season one, I was like, my gut just says no. And then with season two, I just, I don't even really know exactly what it was, but I just felt differently about it and decided to give it a go. And, you know, I'm glad I did because ultimately I feel like, you know, I hope to some capacity I'm able to help other people, but it's also been a Very, like, healing experience for me. I mean, not. There's not a lot of things in life you're not put in a lot of positions where you're forced to be confrontational. I think that pushed me outside of my comfort zone in a lot of ways, and I think it's actually been a really good experience for me. It's kind of like exposure therapy, I guess. But, yeah, it's actually been. It's been great.

[Interviewer]

Wait, so can you give me the tea? How did they cast the first season? Like, did. Did you sign up or they found you.

[Miranda Hope]

So were you. Were you familiar with, like, the whole swinging scandal that broke out years ago? That, like, Taylor. That whole thing. Taylor went on live. So that was initially. So that was mom talk. The original, like, mom talk. Right. There was that, and then Taylor and I had our friendship fallout, and then she went on live, talked about the swinging stuff. So that was just. That went really viral. And then the other girls, some of them were kind of, like, in mom talk. And then there were a few that, like, didn't really have an association to mom talk, but they. They did some rounds of interviews. So that was Jesse and Jen, I think were. Oh, and Demi. And then they did interviews, and the rest of us were just kind of, like, cast by association.

[Interviewer]

Okay, that makes sense. So wait, the whole swinging scandal? Who was involved in the swinging scandal?

[Miranda Hope]

So there was the initial group. There was a couple that was, like, more involved with Taylor and her ex husband. Um, so they were the ones that were, like, more so actually swinging. I think there's also a misconception that people think, like, no one was trading and having sex. Like, that was never a thing. It was more so like, what you would assume, you know, high school nonsense, immature adults that were kind of stunted, I guess you could say. And then me and then my ex husband. We were involved, but it was more so like, the kissing games. And in season two, it kind goes into detail of, like, what we were involved in, but as far as, like, what mom talk is now, it's really just me and Taylor.

[Interviewer]

Okay, that. That makes sense. So what got y' all into the idea of wanting to. I mean, because that's technically not swinging, but. Yeah, you know, it's like dabbling, I guess.

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

Playing with fire. Still, for sure. I don't think it was like, there was no, like, discussions. There was. It was nothing. Nothing like that. It was more or less just us during this was, like, quarantine. And we, like. We would always have, like, doordash nights. I Think people don't really realize that. That Taylor and I and our ex husbands, like, we had a very like, very normal, like, not at all like sexual or controversial friendship at all. It was very normal for years leading up to this. But yeah, that's kind of around the time where we started like drinking here and there. And I think that just is when again, like, we were very like sheltered Mormons growing up. And so none of us had a lot of experience with much. And so I think that kind of just piqued interest. And I think it. One thing just led to another when we would all get together and hang out or have these parties, and that's where it went, I guess.

[Interviewer]

That's so crazy. So is that what led to. Ultimately led to your divorce or were there already other things that were.

[Miranda Hope]

I mean, obviously it wasn't great for our marriage. But I also, like, I don't think that you get to that point. I think you have to have a lot of other things going on in your relationship in order to even be. To find yourself in that situation. Right. But I. There were a lot of other things that were going on in our marriage that led to us then being in that situation with the swinging. And then I think just, you know, we. We got through a lot through that, I think like, we grew in a lot of ways. But then, you know, there were some things that it was just never going to work. And that's ultimately why we decided we'd be better as co parents.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. So how many children do Y' all have?

[Miranda Hope]

2.

[Interviewer]

And are your kids featured on the show and your ex husband?

[Miranda Hope]

My kids are in like a little bit, but none of our kids are really in it much, which is nice. I mean, that's. I think that we would all collectively be against our kids being in it much, but there's like little scenes or clips where you'll see like bits and pieces of them, but overall they're not really featured, I would say, like, as part of, like as a part of the show as a whole.

[Interviewer]

So obviously where you guys are from? Heavy Mormon community. What did they think when. What is it Hulu decided to do the reality show?

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, yeah. It was like a big. Yeah. Not a lot of people were thrilled about it. I also think the name Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, you know, I think that struck a nerve with a lot of members. And then, you know, I think from what I understandable for sure.

[Interviewer]

I mean, I get it.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah. Well, and it's especially something that is already like a controversy. It's Based on, you know, a swinging scandal, which is already controversial as it is. And then you hear the name and it felt, I think a lot of people felt like the term Mormon was just being used to push views and so on. And so I think that they felt a little slighted by that. But I do feel like from what I remember seeing, obviously I wasn't in season one, but I remember seeing a lot of people that were more pleasantly surprised, I think, by the outcome after watching it and like, the relatability of it. So I honestly, I don't feel like I hear a lot of the controversy now, but also maybe that's because I'm more removed from the church. So I. Maybe that's why. But I feel like it's not nearly as big of a deal as I feel like it was when it was first announced.

[Interviewer]

So when you decided to sign on for season two, were you still heavily involved in the church or you had already stepped away?

[Miranda Hope]

I already stepped away, which I think is another thing that definitely played a role in, like, my decision making and kind of dropped a lot of, you know, the people pleasing and the, the front that I had, you know, in those years with the whole swinging thing and having such a fear of disappointing people and whether that be family or just, you know, church leaders and. And I think that I worked through a lot of that and then once I stepped away from the church, I just really stopped caring about it.

[Interviewer]

And what did that look like, stepping away from the Mormon Church?

[Miranda Hope]

It was hard.

[Interviewer]

What was that process?

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, it was hard. I mean, it was. The thing that was really hard is that I was dealing with all of that. That was something that, like, I don't think a lot of people knew is that I was dealing with a faith crisis among my life falling apart online and my marriage falling apart. And it was just a lot all at once. And yeah, you know, it's a high demand religion. And so there's. And especially in Utah, you know, there's a lot of gossip, a lot of judgment, and I think all of that was very heavy all at once. And so I think, you know, I was deconstructing a lot in my life and I think that I, for a long time was just really disappointed, really worried about disappointing my family. And all in all, like, it was a very difficult stage. But I'm very grateful that I pushed through and I'm at a good place with it with my family. And they're, you know, very accepting and loving, even though I don't really align with their belief. System anymore. So, yeah, I'm, I'm here now and we're all, we're all good. But it was, it was definitely rough. Faith crisis is definitely not for the week for sure.

[Interviewer]

How do you feel like your content has evolved from casual posting to just a full blown platform?

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, I started posting casually probably back in 2020 and then that's when like Taylor and I started making videos and they just kind of started taking off. And you know, before I knew it, it was being monetized. And I don't think I really realized like that you could make a full career out of it. And you know, and then obviously even just from then to now, it's a big jump and a big difference too. And I think, yeah, I think it's always shocking to me that this is, you know, where I am now and this is my life. But all in all, I'm grateful that, you know, posting silly little videos turned into what it is now.

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[Interviewer]

So did it start on Tick Tock or.

[Miranda Hope]

Huh.

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Miranda Hope]

So it started off yeah. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And so how did you meet Taylor?

[Miranda Hope]

We actually met through. We went to a photo shoot. Really went to a photo shoot. And that is where we met. And then we clicked. And then we were like, oh, we should hang out with our husbands sometime. And so we, like, hung out and they got along. And when you're married and you have, like, a good friend, I feel like it's really rare for, like, all four people to get along well. And our husbands got along really well. And so we were like, this is great. This is awesome. It's hard to find, like, fun married couples that we all get along with. So then we just started hanging out consistently and the rest is history.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Because I'm just a nosy person. What does the production schedule look like for y'?

[Miranda Hope]

All? Oh, man, it's crazy. I mean, you. Yeah, I mean, I think busting out two seasons a year is definitely keeps us on our toes. Right?

[Interviewer]

Not for the week.

[Miranda Hope]

We're not for the week. It doesn't feel like we have. Even when we have, like, breaks, it. Like, we have so many other things during those breaks. Right. With, like, brands and. And whatnot. So, you know, we're very go Go, go. But I, I will say it, it makes it a lot easier when you do have like genuine friendships.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Miranda Hope]

I think that that would be a lot more miserable. I mean, it's just like going to the, you know, a workplace and not liking your co workers. Not to say clearly there is some of that sometimes, but we.

[Interviewer]

Very dramatic workplace.

[Miranda Hope]

Very dramatic workplace. But we get through it and we communicate through it and all in all, it makes for a fun work environment when you actually most of the time, like your coworkers.

[Interviewer]

Right. So do y' all have call sheets? Like, is it set scenes?

[Miranda Hope]

Yes and no. Like, it's, it's hard because it's based on reality. Right. So it's like it can like change at the drop of a pin or we won't really know what our day looks like until late the night before or so you just kind of have to have. It feels like everything in life is like on call. So it definitely makes it difficult sometimes to like schedule appointments and you know, and then we all have kids and like working on top of that can be difficult. So I think we've all been able to form, you know, a pretty good village and you know, we're, we're grateful for that. But it definitely, it can be draining at times for sure. When you feel like it's, you know, there's a little bit of burnout when you're go, go, go. But I don't know. But I think all in all, I think we're all. It's all been worth it. And again, when you have like people that you're, you enjoy being around, it makes it a lot easier.

[Interviewer]

So do they have access to just be able to show up at your house like whenever they want to or they have to ask permission?

[Miranda Hope]

For sure, they have to ask. Yeah, yeah. No, they show up in my house unannounced when I get off my porch.

[Interviewer]

So do you. Is it true that all of you guys have nannies and not housekeepers, but like house? Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

Huh. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So I, this is true.

[Miranda Hope]

I think all. Well, I don't think Mikayla has an assistant yet, but for them, like they have stay at home husbands. So like, I think there's not, not everyone, but like Macy does and Mikayla does and so their husbands are obviously like really helpful and they help, you know, run their businesses and stuff. But I even so I know Macy has an assistant. I think pretty much all of us have an assistant and a nanny. And so it's again like creating that village. Right. And we all like family and Stuff as well. But even so, like, it's. It's like, not enough to, like, keep up with everything, it feels like. And, yeah, like, even just, you know, as a mom, like, managing household stuff on top of everything, it can definitely. It can be taxing for sure.

[Interviewer]

It's just so crazy. I actually was on Tick Tock a couple of days ago, and I ran across a Tick Tock, and I think it was just kind of like some rando reporter. And it's like, there's drama with the secret wives of Mormon wives husbands because they're now, like, way out. Making them is true.

[Miranda Hope]

Making them, like, financially and.

[Interviewer]

Yes, financially. This true?

[Miranda Hope]

Absolutely not.

[Interviewer]

So there is no truth to that?

[Miranda Hope]

No, not even close. But that is hilarious. They'll love to hear that.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Right. So most of you have. Say you don't have a husband?

[Miranda Hope]

No. No.

[Interviewer]

Do you plan on getting a husband?

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, eventually. I would like to be remarried, but I just. I don't know. I don't really date. I. I, like, don't know how I'd find the time for it, to be honest. I just think, like, this has been this last year. I just have been. It's been. My kids and my career have been my focus, and I just think that if I meet somebody, I kind of feel like it would just end up falling in my lap. I don't really see the use in, like, going out and searching for it. I just. I'm, like, spent enough alone, and I,

[Interviewer]

you know, meet the man in the wild.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, see, that's the plan. That's the plan. Yeah. So I'm like, if it takes a while, whatever. I'm like. I'm, like, content enough, like, in my life that I'm like, I'm in no rush.

[Interviewer]

How long ago was your divorce?

[Miranda Hope]

Just over two years.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Miranda Hope]

So, I mean, it hasn't been too long. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Okay. So what did you guys think when Taylor got selected for the Bachelorette?

[Miranda Hope]

Crazy. It's crazy.

[Interviewer]

Isn't that crazy?

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, it was wild. We were all so excited for her, though. And obviously, you know, she's definitely. There was a lot of controversy, kind of. I think people are like, well, this isn't, like, the standard, like, bachelorette pick, but I think that's kind of the fun of it. Right? And. And, you know, we all know that she's gonna bring it and it'll be different than their past seasons, I'm sure. But, yeah, it'll be Taylor's. Taylor's version, which is exciting.

[Interviewer]

I've seen all of the like, little troll pages and stuff. And it's like, Taylor, Frankie, Paul, first Bachelorette that has a pregnancy scare. Like, wait, what? Like, this is going to get wild. I might watch it, honestly.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, no, it's. I'm. There's so much that I don't even know, like, at this point still. So I'm excited to watch it back and see how it all unfolds.

[Interviewer]

So do you know, is Chris Harrison the host on her season? Because I did hear he was coming back, but then Jesse Palmer was still doing it.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, no, it's Jesse. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Oh, too bad he's married.

[Miranda Hope]

What a shame.

[Interviewer]

What a shame. What do you feel like is the biggest misconception about you that even surprises you?

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, I feel like I get those a lot less the more seasons there are and the more people get to know me. I think I still see a lot of, like, assumptions of people being like, there's no way Miranda and Chase aren't still hooking up. And I'm like, come on now, you guys. Do you really that little of me? That's what I'm saying. I'm like, that's actually one of my biggest flexes is that I haven't done that. Maybe that's one of them. But I haven't seen a lot, like, as of recently, like, when the whole swinging thing was unfolding and even with season two, there were a lot more. But now I feel like the more people get to know me, the less they're making assumptions, which is nice. I'll take it.

[Interviewer]

So has your divorce played out on the show, or you were already, like, done with that by the time you went on?

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, I was already done with it, but I did not want him to be a part of season two. Owl like, it was very much relatable.

[Interviewer]

Relatable.

[Miranda Hope]

Right. I'm just like, I don't. And we were still figuring out our footing with co parenting. Right. So I'm just like, I don't. It was too risky. It was. You know, I'm like, this is. And it also. We were in the process of separating our lives, and I'm like, this is, like, my thing. Like, I don't want us to continue to be connected in that way. And, you know, I just feel like emotionally, like, I was still trying to heal. He had a lot of healing to do. So I'm like, it's just way too fresh. And then as time has gone on and we've been able to establish a good co parenting relationship, I've been more and more like, receptive and open to the idea of him being a part of it. But I have been very clear that it's like under my conditions.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so you didn't want him part of season two? No, he kind of stepped in to the scene after that. Did you have to go to production and say if you sign him on, I'm not doing it? Like, was it a flex?

[Miranda Hope]

It was more like it's not as much with like production. Well, with season two is production. I was like, I'm not doing it if he's a part of it. Which they didn't get me put. They were like very like. That's part of why I was so upset when he showed up at the Halloween party in season two because I was just like, he not so. Yeah. But later, like after that, it was more or less like my conversations with him just because, you know, I'm like, like I'm open to you being more part of this. However, like, don't embarrass me. Don't embarrass our kids. Like those are, you know, as long as like we're good there, then I'm like, you can be a part of it. But I, yeah, I definitely. He knows that there's, you know, a fine line and you know, so far for the most part, I feel like he's done a good job.

[Interviewer]

So do they still come to you and say like, hey, can he do this? Or it's kind of.

[Miranda Hope]

No, he just like it's whatever now. But I like I said it's like less involving production now and it's more so just between like our communication as co parents.

[Interviewer]

But it's so relatable post divorce if you've ever had any type of public platform and it's kind of like all unfolding. Very relatable to want to have something just like for your own.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, for sure.

[Interviewer]

Like it's not a selfish act. It's just like, this is me now and that's you.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes, exactly. And I think, you know, there's with divorce and when you've been married for a while especially you have so much that is just like joint and I think like fully being seen as your own person, you, you know, financially and mentally, emotionally. I think that it's really empowering and I think that that's something especially for a woman. And I think that's something that I was, that was something that was very important to me that I'm like, look, I want it to be very like clean cut ties to start out just so we can like rebuild our foundation separately. And then as time has gone on and we've kind of done that, I've been more open to the idea of us like formulating a level of business relationship, I guess, on top of the co parenting. And so far it's gone. It's gone well for the most part. I mean, definitely there's always going to be hiccups, but I feel like I've been grateful that it's gone as well as it has so far.

[Interviewer]

So is he still friends with the husbands?

[Miranda Hope]

Like the. With like dad talk?

[Interviewer]

Oh, dad talk.

[Miranda Hope]

Dad talk. He was never really like friends initially with. Well, I'm trying to think of what so him and Jacob kind of. He had never met Jace, I don't think at first. So like some of them are and like same like Jesse wasn't really a part of mom talk. And so like Jordan that was like more fresh and with like Dakota. So some of their friendships are definitely newer. And because none of the like dad talk wasn't really like a thing when mom was. No.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

No. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

They just tried to make it a thing.

[Miranda Hope]

They just keep trying to make dad talk happen.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, like trying to make such happen. It's just not right.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes.

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[Interviewer]

Okay, so can we talk a little bit about Mom Talk? And just like your real life influence, why do you feel like so many parents resonate with your content? Specifically?

[Miranda Hope]

I think that, like, motherhood is a very vulnerable thing and especially.

[Interviewer]

Yes.

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

For my, for my platform specifically. I think co parenting is something that, you know, my DMs are flooded with women asking, you know, how do you guys co parent so well? Like, I feel, you know, so lost in this and I don't know, like, what to do. And the hardest part is that it does take two, just like a relationship does, in order for it to work seamlessly. And our co parent relationship is definitely not seamless. You know, we definitely still argue and there's still bumps in the road all the time, but we are so much healthy, healthier as co parents and work as a team. So much better being divorced than we did when we were married.

[Interviewer]

Very big.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah. Yeah. And so I think that, you know, showcasing that on our platforms is something that can kind of give people hope, I guess more or less of that you can get there because in our first, you know, the first, like six months of our divorce, I was like, I thought this would go way better. Like, I thought we would be co parenting so well. I really, like believed that. And, you know, I think that was just part of the, the grace period of fighting or finding our footing and kind of getting over the, the hump of like, the really emotional state of it all. And, you know, for me, like, mourning the loss of my family unit and things like that and just giving it time at first. And, you know, it's definitely a trial and error thing. And so I think as far as, like my platform specifically, I think co parenting is like, you know, a huge relatability point. But I think mom talk as a whole, I think just motherhood in general, it can be. Motherhood can feel very lonely and isolating, and it's easy to lose yourself in that. And that's kind of why Mom Talk initially started is I think that, you know, Taylor and I would just get together and our friend Camille, too, she was a part of it. Like, the three of us started just making videos together as kind of a way to not necessarily escape motherhood, but just to have, you know, A piece of ourselves back, I guess, in a sense. And to just kind of be ourselves with our. With our mom friends and to have like an outing that's. And our kids would kind of just play while we would make videos. And it was just something that was kind of started as like a hobby and, you know, I guess a break from motherhood. And then, you know, it just transpired into what it is today.

[Interviewer]

I feel like it is so relatable when you say it takes two. Right. Because you can want to be the best co parent ever, but if you don't have somebody meeting you where you're at, it's never gonna work.

[Miranda Hope]

No.

[Interviewer]

Like, that's not co parenting. That's parallel parenting.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes. 100. And some people unfortunately have to do that. And that's like my heart goes out to them because I know that's so difficult. And you know, if when you divorce someone that's just a narcissist and they're never gonna get it, I think that's what's hard is that you kind of have to come to terms with the fact that they're never gonna get it and that you just. You do have to parallel parent. You don't necessarily get to have that co parent relationship. And, you know, and that's something that I imagine is very difficult. And so I do feel very lucky that, you know, Chase is really, like, receptive and that he's been easy to work with and to co parent with because. Yeah, not everybody gets that, which is really unfortunate, especially after already having to deal with a toxic relationship, you know, for sure.

[Interviewer]

I get so many messages about the co parenting stuff and it'll be like. And you probably do too, but it'll be just like pages of people telling their story and it's like, that's not co parenting.

[Miranda Hope]

No.

[Interviewer]

You need to parallel parent.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes. Yep. And there's.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

It's just the more you try, I think, the harder it is to deal with the situation. Right. Because it's like some people, it's just never going to be in the cards. And that's what's really hard is you're not only mourning the loss of your, you know, your relationship and then your family unit, you're also mourning the loss of the co parent relationship that you thought you could have or hoped you could have, and then just coming to terms with that and then just building that foundation of that parallel parenting relationship from that point forward, which is incredibly difficult. You know, I have friends myself who are in that situation and it's. It's super hard. But you know, I think that over time they've come to terms with that and they're like, well, this is my reality. And we make the most. The most of it for sure.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so mom talk and the videos, how long does it take you guys to like choreograph and get in sync to do these videos?

[Miranda Hope]

I mean, we don't do a whole lot of dancing ones now like we used to and that would take longer, but now it's more like voiceover stuff or like little things like that. So now it's like. I mean, I feel like we've got it down pretty well to where most of the time we like. It's like a lot of one take wonders. Like we're especially. Cause we're now we're so busy that we don't. We don't really just do like planned like get togethers where we get together, make content and we have all these ideas. It's more. So we're in the middle of something and we're like, hey, I'm gonna make this video. And we've got five minutes to like, you know, pound it out. So it's kind of like you either get it first try or you don't. You don't.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

And so I think that's kind of. It's like mid something all the time when we're making these videos. So it's a lot less of like the dancing videos that we used to do and a lot of like quick stuff. But, you know, what's that? I think that that's kind of more of our. That's reality, I guess. Right? That's, you know, us being like, let's take this moment and like, do it if we can. And that's kind of what it looks more like now. Or we'll remake some of like the old stuff we've done. So we already know all of the. I mean, you've probably seen the like come to the back. Like the one that's the one everyone sees.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

And I'm like, we've had that one down to a science for years now. So that one's. That one's easy peasy.

[Interviewer]

That's so funny. Wait, so how did Taylor going on the Bachelorette change mom talk talk, if at all?

[Miranda Hope]

I wouldn't say it changed mom talk at all. I think, you know, we've all had. There's been a lot of crazy changes going on in everybody's lives. And I think it's been just really fun overall to support. To support each and every one of the girls. And, you know, just like we went to Dancing with the Stars for Whitney and Jen. You know, we're, you know, we've been showing up for Taylor with her being the bachelorette and, you know, we'll be at her premiere and we've just been cheering her on and it hasn't really affected us much because we're just rooting from back home.

[Interviewer]

Right. Like, we were kind of out of

[Miranda Hope]

the bubble for the most part, but it's just been exciting to be a part of her journey at all and to. Yeah. Watch it all unfold for her. It's been really exciting.

[Interviewer]

Wait, so Dakota is still filming, right?

[Miranda Hope]

Yes, well, it was the long pause. I'm like, well, I don't. I. Yes and no. I feel like even I have question marks about that one. So I'm like, you'll see more of that unfold for sure.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Miranda Hope]

But I mean, they're. They're co parents, you know. Speaking of. So he'll for sure be in her life to some degree.

[Interviewer]

I saw some headline where it was like he was spotted with some other girl and I was like, and then he's filming on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Like, he's bold. Like, that man's bold.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes, he is. Yes, he is. Yeah. But I'm like, but Taylor's bolder, so she'll for sure. Yeah, she makes sure he knows it all the time, so put him in

[Interviewer]

his place for sure. Okay, can we go back to the swinging for a second? How did that affect or impact your relationship? Obviously, stepping away from the church and then your parents still being involved in the church, like, how did that impact your life with your family?

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, it was hard, for sure. I think that's kind of what forced me to being open with them about my faith crisis, because at that point I hadn't. I mean, they kind of knew, but like, they didn't really know. So it kind of forced those conversations a little bit, I would say. But I think all in all, like, I. I mean, who's to say how long I would have waited and the pretended to be someone I'm not? And so as crazy as it is, because I would have never in a million years back when I was in like, my most depressed state going through all of this, I remember thinking like, there's no. There cannot possibly be a purpose for this. There's like no light at the end of the tunnel. And then looking back from where I am now, I'm. I would have never thought I would be grateful for it. In a sense, you know, I'm like, as crazy and strange as that is, I am. I am grateful for it, and I think it's really pushed me past my limits, and it's, like, really developed me as a person. And I think I'm in my most authentic state that I've been, and it's because I've decided to let go of, you know, they. What people think and the perception of it all. And I think that that's been, you know, really healing for me, and I've been able to grow through that a lot.

[Interviewer]

So when you joined the show, how did you present that to your family?

[Miranda Hope]

I. I just. I actually got on a, like, group family call with them and brought it up to them, and kind of. It wasn't. I hadn't, like, made the decision yet. I was just bringing up the thought. And I think for them, it was actually less about the church stuff and more about. They were not a huge fan of Taylor just because of all of everything I had gone through. And so they had a lot of concerns about me, like, subjecting to my. That. Myself to that again. And so they. They just didn't want to see me in that state again, and they didn't want to see me go down that route again. And so, you know, in their minds, they're like, why would you that do choose to, like, put yourself in a position where you are, you know, pretty much asking for this now? And I, you know, I heard them all out, and the more I thought on it, I just, like, couldn't shake the feeling that I needed to do it. And so there was. There were a few that were like. Like, yeah, I could see, you know, the benefit, but for the most part, like, they were very apprehensive. But now they're very much like, we're so glad you trusted your gut. And, like, you know, they're very proud of me. And so they've been. And they've been really supportive, and so I. I really appreciate that.

[Interviewer]

Okay, give me your proudest and hardest moments filming.

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, man. You know, it's funny. I remember in the last season, in the Entertainment Tonight interview we were doing, when Demi had said that she didn't regret the way that she handled the Halloween party and the whole Chase situation, because I had heard that she had said multiple times that she regretted the way that she handled that. So when she said that and she doubled down and was like, no, I would handle the exact same way. And Taylor was sitting next to me, and she could tell that I Was, like, very jarred.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

And I. First, I wanted to say something, but where we were also in a professional setting, Right. So I was like, now is probably not the time to say something, but

[Interviewer]

we're not filming the show. We're in an interview, Right.

[Miranda Hope]

And I have Taylor right next to me. And Taylor could tell, just, like, by my body language how I was feeling. And so you can't really. I don't know if you can tell actually, in the interview if she said it or not, but she kind of leans over and she's like, say it. Say it. And so I. That's why I was like, really? Like, you don't regret the way you handled that at all? And had Taylor not said that, I probably wouldn't have said anything. And then, you know, it later transpired to the argument between Demi and I. And I think that's just one of really, like, a lot of experiences. You'll see. You'll see some of it in season four. You'll see some of it in season four. And then there's a lot more coming up as well after that where you'll see me be confrontational and have to stand my ground and really, like, set those boundaries. And I always try to do it in a manner that's not, you know, outwardly angry or malicious. However, like, if I feel a certain way about something, I don't have an issue voicing it the way that I used to. And so, yeah, I would say that's probably one of them. Not that it was like some big, whole huge thing. I think it was more or less just, like, the situation and the timing of it all, because I feel like

[Interviewer]

it was this press and you. There was, like, multiple people in this press interview.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, it was all of us. It was all of us together, and it was an Entertainment Tonight, and we were all sitting there answering questions, and he had asked her, you know, if she regretted the way she handled it. And so I was just, like. Just taken back by her answer. And so, yeah, I think it was just funny that, you know, having Taylor there to just confirm, you know, hey, take a page out of my book. You know, I was like, okay, I will.

[Interviewer]

Like the personality to double down.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, totally.

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[Interviewer]

So are y' all already actively in a film cycle for next season?

[Miranda Hope]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

The one that's like currently coming out?

[Miranda Hope]

Yes. Separate. Yep. Yeah.

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Interviewer]

So how many episodes? Yeah, that's crazy. So how many episodes per season?

[Miranda Hope]

There's 10 per season.

[Interviewer]

Okay. And just me being nosy. Do you film on all 10 episodes? Like, are you guaranteed 10 episodes or. It's not how that works.

[Miranda Hope]

Not necessarily, but I don't think there's ever been an episode where, for any of us where we're not included in it at all. So. So, yeah, I think we've.

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

We're all.

[Miranda Hope]

So far. I think we're all in every episode of every season to some degree.

[Interviewer]

That's so crazy. So I do want to kind of get into conversations a little bit about growth and mental health. How do you think that you have grown emotionally since the time of the swinging and then joining the show?

[Miranda Hope]

I think I'm a completely different person. Completely different person. Yeah. I think, you know, there's so many levels to it between, you know, the friendship fallouts and, you know, relationship stuff and divorce and the co parenting and faith crisis and deconstructing that. And there's been just so many degrees of change, you know, more evolution, I think, in these last two, three years of my life than ever before collectively in my life. And so I, you know, I think this, it's also the time that I think I've been pushed to, you know, sink or swim positions. And I think, you know, I chose to swim and I really, really grew as a person within that. And I am, you know, proud of where I'm at. And I'm so grateful for, for all of the hardships that I've gone through because, you know, had I not gone through all of them, I don't know that I would be where I'm at today.

[Interviewer]

Do you attribute that to therapy or like, what. What got you there?

[Miranda Hope]

I mean, definitely, I, Yeah, therapy is for sure part of it 100. But I also think, just like life experiences, I mean, I think again, when you're pushed to your breaking point and you're having to choose that fight or flight and, you know, you conquer things that you didn't think you could, um, I think that's such an. A learning lesson. And then when you can look back on it, hindsight it's so much easier to see the missteps and the growth. And I think that's, you know, the swinging situation as a whole. If that were to happen now, I would have handled the situation completely differently.

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

However, you know, I, it's, it was a learning lesson. And now, you know, I know that, you know, I've taken accountability for that and I know moving forward I have a lot better grasp on handling difficult situations like that. And, you know, being transparent and authentic about my missteps and also just like being okay with the fact that I'm not a perfect human and letting, I think that religious component go, that made me feel like I had to like always be performing and always had to be perfect to a degree. I just don't have that anymore. And, you know, I'm very grateful for that because, yeah, regardless of whether you act perfect or not, we're not all perfect. And so I think that's part of the beauty of the show. Right. Is that.

[Interviewer]

That's what I was gonna say. Reality TV helps that come out. Right. Because you just get to live somewhat authentically. Is there anything that is part of the show that you're like, no. Like, I'm not going there. Like any boundaries that you're like, no, that's not for me. Or is it just a free for all?

[Miranda Hope]

I don't know. I guess it depends on like how deep they're wanting to go and is certain because, you know, I like, I don't know that my family would ever be interested in being, you know, on it at all. But that's not really, that's just like their own preference. It's not really like a me thing. That's just their preference. But I, I think like, I am very weary, you know, kind of like I said earlier of like too much of the co parenting stuff, just like for my children's safety. And I'm like more than okay with people seeing like me and Chase's co parent dynamic. In fact, like that to me is encouraged. I would love for people to get more of an insight on like how we co parent and what works and why we work as co parents. I think just like when it gets to the point where I think when outside things with filming like affect my co parent relationship and it makes us argue more, that's like where I draw a line because I'm like, I don't. If this is gonna affect the peace that like we've created in this dynamic, then I'm like, I don't. That's not okay. With me because obviously I'm like, the whole reason we're divorced is to have that peace and you know, in our children now.

[Interviewer]

You have to find it now. Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes. And now that I have it, I'm like, I like hold to it so tight and so that's something I'm very protective over for sure. For my kids, for sure.

[Interviewer]

Can you tell me how you feel publicly navigating some of this stuff when you see, I mean, we've all been, you know, exposed to certain stuff, like whether it be on TikTok and somebody has like a completely different narrative than what transpired. How do you navigate that?

[Miranda Hope]

Like. Like, like viewers, you mean?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, because they make their own narrative, you know.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah. Most of the time you don't.

[Interviewer]

You just.

[Miranda Hope]

I think that like you have to come to terms with not being understood with by everyone, not being liked by everyone. And like you, when you choose to do this, you also are under doing it with the understanding that things aren't always going to be portrayed perfectly as is exactly how it happened down to, you know, every last detail because we filmed so many hours and isn't that crazy? Like, I mean, you know, how much gets cut, right? So it's, there's, there's obviously going to be missing context sometimes in situations, but it's like that's something you kind of just, you know, and something you have to be okay with and you know, if it's something on a grand scale that's, you know, we all have platforms as well and like you've seen, you know, people have seen plenty of things unfold online and so, you know, we always have, you know, it's our right to speak up if we want to and say something. Right. And there's a lot we can say and a lot we can, you know, give context to but, or context to but there are things that we can't necessarily. And I also think that like sometimes it's just not worth it and a lot of the time you end up looking worse if you tried to like debunk things too much. And so I think you're just. Most, more often than not it's safer to just be like, it is what it is. Let them think what they will see.

[Interviewer]

To your point about reality tv, people do not realize how long something is being filmed and then what it's cut to. So when I was on Chris Lee Knows Best, it's seven day, like you might film for seven straight days. One day might be an interview and it's cut to like 30something minute. Episode. And it's like you filmed for like eight hour days, for seven days. How did you get 30 minutes out of that?

[Miranda Hope]

Exactly, exactly. There's so. And then, you know, you'll go on trips and half of it will be missing. And so it's like there's so much that doesn't make the cut. And I think, yeah, I think it's hard for people to remember that for sure when they've never experienced it.

[Interviewer]

But people also don't understand that there is a production team, there is a network that is behind, that is specifically cutting certain stuff so that it does cause extra controversy.

[Miranda Hope]

Right. And I think that's something that I've actually really loved about our show is the breaking of that fourth wall. And there's a lot of conversation. Yeah, I do too. I think there's a lot. Because it's kind of like the elephant in the room.

[Interviewer]

Right?

[Miranda Hope]

Like, I think people forget, but at the end of the day they, they know that they're there. Right. It's being filmed somehow. And even though you kind of get desensitized to the cameras and that's what makes such real and raw television. But I think to have to clue viewers in on that a little bit because that's our real lives, that is reality is that we are making this show and we are showcasing our real lives. But there's definitely strategy to it and there's definitely a whole like crew of people that is making it, making it all possible. And there's, you know, whether it be on set or behind the scenes with the decision making or the editing, and there's a lot, a lot that goes into it and I think it's for sure easy for people to forget that. And so I think having that fourth wall broken a little bit and having conversations surrounding it has actually been like, really cool and I think refreshing to see for our viewers.

[Interviewer]

Wait, so when did they break the fourth wall on your show?

[Miranda Hope]

I want to say it started in season two a little bit, but I feel like last season it was like a lot, because season two was when we talked, they started talking more about contracts and stuff. And then, and then it's been like progressively more ever since. But yeah, it's like, you know, not like a ton, but it's like enough to where people are reminded. Oh yeah, this is a show like

[Interviewer]

there are cameras here, there's an executive producer there. You know, there are lots of people in a home that are making this happen. And I think that people don't understand that. They think that you know, you're just freaking kikiing around in your living room and it's, you know, like a GoPro strapped to your forehead.

[Miranda Hope]

Right, right. Like they're standing in the living room with you. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And they don't understand also the conversations that are happening from like cast and producers and that I think that it's so important to be able to see that and I don't know why more reality shows do not do that. I wanted fourth wall broken for Chris Lee Knows Best.

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

So bad.

[Interviewer]

Literally season three.

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[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, well, I think it also helps build more trust between production and cast. And I think that in that because there's always. You understand that they like they have a job to do, they have a show to make you understand that. However, if I feel like I'm consistently being slighted, why would I want to be vulnerable about my life? Right. And I feel like our production does a really good job of making us all feel vulnerable. Like you know, whether while we're filming, but also like behind the scenes in conversation with Them. And, you know, we can be very, like, transparent about what we're comfortable, what we're not comfortable with, and how we're feeling about certain things. And, you know, they want to take our mental health serious seriously. And that's something that I've really appreciated, because, you know, if you can have that relationship, it ultimately just makes for better television in the end.

[Interviewer]

But I think that people need to see that because it also holds production somewhat accountable, where they're kind of like, feeding a scenario, and it's like, hey, can you talk about X, Y and Z? Okay, well, I didn't just blast out of the kitchen trying to talk about that. You asked me to do that. You know, and so I think that's where it's so important for the fourth wall to be broken so that they know that, you know, there is a production team there that have become a part of your life.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes, yes. Yeah, it really is. Like, sometimes it feels like a fifth appendage. There's just, like. You get used to it, right? It's just around all the time. And, yeah, I think that, like, having that foundation of trust and transparency with them is important, and I think it ends up, you know, making it better for all parties involved.

[Interviewer]

I want to talk about the kids for just a brief second. How old are they? And do you and Chase ever do family events and outings jointly with your children?

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, all the time. My kids are. My kids are. I'm like, Coco, Just four and six. I'm like, how are they now? In my mind, my kids are always, like, 2 and 4. Yes, of course. But, yeah, 4 and 6. And we actually just went to brunch yesterday with them, but we do, like, stuff with them all the time, just as family, and, well, like, sometimes go to the park and play with them and things like that. So it's. It's nice to still. I love, like, living alone. Love, love, love living alone. But it is nice to still be able to do stuff together as a family, especially for the kids.

[Interviewer]

Do you feel like that it's caused a healthier environment for your children, or do you feel like it's caused confusion at all?

[Miranda Hope]

No, I honestly don't. Like, I think my kids are very clear that we're not married. Like, they. I think they're old enough now where they, like, definitely understand that. And I think. I don't really feel like they have any, like, confusion about it, really, at all. And it also helps too that, like, I don't really date. So, like, I. There's not any Like, I'm not. I don't bring men over. Like, they don't ever see me with. I had one boyfriend after my divorce, and they knew him well, but, like, besides, like, him, they don't. They've never seen me with a guy, so I feel like. Like, maybe it would be confusing, like, if I were to start dating someone. Yeah, I think. Or. Or more or less, I guess just, like, it's probably strange for them to first see in the beginning, but all in all, I think, like, us just, like, co parenting is still doing stuff together as a family. Like, I don't think it feels confusing to them at all.

[Interviewer]

That's so great. Okay, I'm gonna rapid fire you for a second.

[Miranda Hope]

Okay, let's do it.

[Interviewer]

What excites you most about your next chapter?

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, I have a lot of exciting things coming up, actually. I think I feel like I am tapping into, like, some of my, like, childhood dreams and, like, my, like, my creative side more, I guess. So people will see more of that coming up. So. Yeah, I guess, like, people seeing more of my creativity, I would say, I guess would be something I'm most excited about coming up.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Are there any projects that you have not revealed that you are eager to pursue?

[Miranda Hope]

Yes. Yeah, I have actually been getting into music, so that's like a project that I'm currently. What?

[Interviewer]

You have a voice you can sing?

[Miranda Hope]

I do, yes. I'm like, I guess it depends on who you ask, but.

[Interviewer]

But yeah, yeah, no, if you ask everybody else.

[Miranda Hope]

Right. I actually have a video of Pinned of him and I singing on my tick tock.

[Interviewer]

That's so funny. I'll go and check that out.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Okay, next question. What makes a brand partnership meaningful for you?

[Miranda Hope]

If I use it. If I use it in my, like, regular life, like, consistently, then I, like, that's something that I get really excited when it's something that I use, like, especially, like, daily.

[Interviewer]

That's like, wait, so when. When y'.

[Miranda Hope]

All.

[Interviewer]

I mean, I'm still gonna rapid fire, but I have got to know this. When y' all first got on the show and brands started coming out of the woodwork, were you one that took, like, every brand deal that came your way or did you kind of sit back and you're like, okay, I really wouldn't use that, so I'm not going to. To promote it.

[Miranda Hope]

The nice thing about already being an influencer prior to going on the show is that, like, going on the show allowed me to be picky. And so it would be one thing if, like, I Was, you know, one of the girls that like was just coming off of and not to say any of them did this, but if I was just coming off of like, you know, like interviewing and then I was on the show, I didn't have a platform prior or anything like that, but I think I already had, like worked with a lot of brands that I loved and was excited about. And so I think going on the show just like it opened up a lot of opportunities with brands that were like, you know, more of my favorites and again like those like daily use products and so on. So yeah, it's nice because I was able to be a lot more picky about the ones that I used and like very intentional with what I wanted to promote.

[Interviewer]

Give me one daily use product, K18. Just put, I just put some this morning.

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, really? I was like, I just put their dry, they're like liquid or their spray dry shampoo in my hair this morning. Yeah, love, love, love their products. And that's a brand that I'm like working with right now. And again, another one that I use.

[Interviewer]

Okay. How has your definition of success changed over time?

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, man, I think it changes. Like, I feel like the more and more success you have, the like, more and more your definition shifts and the less and less it becomes about money. I think for me, I think what makes me feel the most successful in my life right now is like the peace that I have. I think like overcoming all of like all of the shit that I've been through and having such a peaceful life right now and like really being able to like have that independence is something that makes me feel really successful, especially as a single mom. To be able to have, you know, maintain that independence and that peace for not only myself, but for them as well. I feel like that's success to me.

[Interviewer]

I feel like that's so relatable because it's something that you can't necessarily pay for, but you really have to work for.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes. 100 intentional about it, right? 100.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Where do you see yourself in the next five years? Are you still secret Wives of Mormon lives or what are you doing

[Miranda Hope]

five years? I don't know. I like, I hope that I'm, you know, I've got my hand in other things. I wouldn't be opposed to being, you know, still on the show, but I feel like as far as it's such a taxing job, you know, like the thinking about doing it for that long or longer, like that's something I haven't even like thought about. But I hope by then I have, like, the option, I guess, right about it.

[Interviewer]

But once you're in reality tv, it's kind of like a cult itself, right?

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah, totally.

[Interviewer]

Step away once you're in it and once you've exposed yourself. Because then it's like, okay, I've already exposed all of this stuff, so why would I step away now?

[Miranda Hope]

Yep, a hundred percent.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so tell everybody where they can find you on socials and give us the details of the premiere of your new season.

[Miranda Hope]

Yeah. So you can find me on TikTok and Instagram mirandahope and watch our new season coming out on March 12th on Disney and Hulu.

[Interviewer]

I absolutely love it. Can't wait for everybody to be able to see it. I started watching the screener several days before I came on this interview, and I'm like, wow, I thought I was crazy, but, like, they are.

[Miranda Hope]

Isn't it wild?

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Miranda Hope]

I'm like, oh, wow, we are mentally unwell.

[Interviewer]

I. I just said yesterday, like, if you have ever been on reality tv, part of the casting for that is you have to have a mental illness.

[Miranda Hope]

Oh, for sure. 100 or at least, like, majority of the cat. Like, there has to be a solid like 70%. That's like 70. And sometimes I'm like, sometimes I'm included in that, sometimes I'm not. Like, depends on the day or the season, I guess.

[Interviewer]

Depends on what day you decide to be healthy and what day you decide to be treacherous.

[Miranda Hope]

Yes, 100.

[Interviewer]

Well, thank you so much for joining me. I hope you have a good rest of the day. And I can't wait for everybody to be able to watch the new season of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Okay, if you guys have not followed

[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

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[Interviewer]

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[Southern Tea Podcast Host]

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[Interviewer]

We hope you all have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

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[Interviewer]

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[Miranda Hope]

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