Name Change & Beyond

Summary

The Southern Tea – "Name Change & Beyond"

Host: Lindsie Chrisley
Guest Co-host: Kristen
Date: July 16, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt episode, Lindsie Chrisley addresses the recent, much-discussed change of her last name on social media, providing an open and honest rationale behind the decision. Alongside Kristen, the show weaves through discussions on parenting, the realities of post-divorce identity, family dynamics—especially with public scrutiny—and the importance of emotional safety for her son. The episode flows naturally from light-hearted banter to deeply personal reflections, all in Lindsie’s characteristic, candid Southern style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Southern Hospitality and Sleepover Realities

• Guest Bedding Etiquette (01:31–04:41): Lindsie shares her standards for changing sheets in guest bedrooms, emphasizing cleanliness and consideration for all visitors.
  • “Leaving dirty sheets, which they might not be dirty, from somebody who spent the night... I don't want somebody else coming in there and then sleeping on top of somebody's stuff that they don't even know.” – Lindsie (01:46)
• Sleepover Logistics & Costs (11:45–13:42): Sleepovers are expensive, with snacks and preparations adding up. Lindsie spends over $120 on minimal snacks for her son Jackson's sleepover.
  • “No, seriously, I was preparing for this sleepover like days before, correct? ...$120 later of snacks.” – Lindsie (11:57–12:23)

Family, Business & Motherhood Stories

• Jackson’s Entrepreneurial Spirit (08:10–11:02): Lindsie details her son Jackson’s ventures, from selling cleaned golf balls to offering trash can washing services, reflecting on kids’ entrepreneurial mindsets.
  • “He and his friends went out. Do you know that those boys collected 43 golf balls off the course in like 35 minutes?” – Lindsie (08:59)
  • “They are convinced that they have thousands of dollars' worth of golf balls in the garage.” – Lindsie (09:10)
• Motherhood Moments (12:43–14:29): Lindsie talks about prepping for back-to-school, Jackson’s creative approach to new socks, and the practicalities of parenting.

Lighthearted Food & Product Banter

• Blankets & Bedding Preferences (02:18–04:41): Funny differences in co-sleeping habits are discussed, leading to relatable anecdotes about sharing (or not sharing) blankets with partners.
• Snack Obsessions: GoGo Squeez and Applesauce (16:04–18:16): Lindsie’s love for GoGo Squeez apple cinnamon is a running joke, with Kristen associating applesauce with swallowing pills.
  • “Can Go go Squeeze sponsor me? Because honestly, they're not cheap and I go through so many of these.” – Lindsie (17:15)
  • “How many Go go squeezes do I consume a day? Likely four.” – Lindsie (17:42)

Navigating Public & Private Identities: The Name Change (21:14–29:41)

Why Change the Name?

• Lindsie explains the personal and professional fallout from carrying the "Chrisley" surname after her divorce and her family's public controversies.
  • “For a long time, I very much battled with carrying my maiden last name. And with me carrying that last name came public association, assumptions of all different kinds, weight that I truly feel like I never asked for.” – Lindsie (22:21)
• She notes that the Chrisley name hindered business prospects post-show, refuting assumptions of privilege.
  • “That last name did not create income or opportunity for me. In fact, it became very problematic... and have been asked to go by another name altogether.” – Lindsie (23:44)
• Lindsie describes her practical decision-making after her divorce: reverting to her maiden name for identity, not sentiment, and using "Campbell" for legal/parenting contexts with her son.

The Pain of Public Family Conflict

• Lindsie publicly addresses hurtful comments made by her father, expressing how public erasure of her son Jackson as a grandchild is emotionally damaging.
  • “One of those was saying—and I quote—can't wait to have grandchildren. That statement... ignores my son Jackson, who is his biological grandchild. That type of erasure and emotional harm does not just affect me... It has and will continue to affect Jackson.” – Lindsie (28:51)
  • “There is no requirement to have a relationship with me to love your grandchild.” – Lindsie (32:04)
• She emphasizes creating a healthy, emotionally safe environment for her child, stating her boundaries with her family.
  • “My number one priority in this life is to create an emotionally safe environment for Jackson, but also myself... an environment for my child that is free from any type of conditional love, public erasure or private pain.” – Lindsie (33:06)

The Reality and Symbolism Behind the New Name

• Lindsie makes clear that the name change to Landsman is not about marriage (she is not married), but about finding peace, stability, and moving forward with her partner, David.
  • “Specifically in regards to choosing to change my last name to Landsman... it truly was a decision that I made about reclaiming my peace and stepping into my future that is defined by love, growth...” – Lindsie (37:55)
  • “It has nothing to do with erasing my past. It is all about choosing my future and protecting the people that I love most while doing so.” – Lindsie (38:22)
• She briefly clarifies rumors stemming from recent Instagram posts: the ring is a symbol of commitment, not an engagement, and her partner’s child isn’t pictured out of respect for privacy agreements with their blended family.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I refuse to allow any type of disrespect or dysfunction to have any type of seat at my table.”
  – Lindsie, standing firm on boundaries (37:48)

• “There are so many people who don't feel that way. They feel like you have to have a relationship with me, and it has to be a certain way in order for me to give you access to my child.”
  – Kristen, on parent–grandparent boundaries (32:22)

• “I was led to believe that that's what we were doing, and that’s absolutely not what we were doing. And so I've had to come to terms with a lot of that stuff on my own.”
  – Lindsie, on realizing reconciliation attempts were one-sided (35:18)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Changing Guest Bedding Etiquette: 01:31–02:18
• Jackson’s Business Ventures: 08:07–10:25
• Sleepover and Snack Costs: 11:45–13:42
• Name Change & Public Fallout Begins: 21:14
• Family Conflict and Protecting Jackson: 28:51
• Why Change to Landsman/Not Married: 37:48–39:28
• Instagram Speculations and Blended Family Privacy: 41:48–46:49

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Listener Q&A and Devotional

• The episode closes with an HOA story (47:41–50:15) and an uplifting devotional message about moving confidently into a new life chapter:
  • “Your next chapter is going to be so beautiful. You're going to breathe. You're going to be able to finally rest knowing that you've come so far.” – Lindsie reading (51:31)

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Tone and Atmosphere

Lindsie’s southern warmth anchors the conversation, even as she broaches challenging topics with vulnerability and grace. Kristen’s quick wit and supportive friendship infuse humor and relatability throughout. The episode balances deep authenticity with familiar, endearing banter.

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Summary for Listeners New & Old

This episode is essential for anyone following Lindsie’s journey—or those navigating family identity and boundaries in public or private. Candid, sometimes raw, always heartfelt: Lindsie lays out her reasons for her name change, addresses public misconceptions, defends her child’s emotional health, and gives fans clarity about her next chapter—all while sharing real-life “tea” on motherhood and life in the south.

Transcript

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kristen]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Kristen]

That is the tea.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Here's Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Southern Tea. The Southern Tea podcast is up for nomination for the People's Choice Podcast Awards. Please vote for us in the kids and family category and the People's choice category. Voting is open now through July 31st. So let's take this home. Good morning, Kristen. How are you?

[Kristen]

Good morning, Lindsay Chrisley. I'm doing great. How are we, ma'? Am.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, ma'. Am. I have had so many kids at my house over the last couple of days, and I have been going through this house like a maniac, stripping all sheets, even on beds that nobody slept in.

[Kristen]

You know what I actually saw somebody asked this the other day. They were like first time homeowners. And they're like, when you have guests. Okay. It was like, when you have guest bedrooms. How often are we changing the sheets and stuff when no one's in there? And I said, this is a Lindsay Chrisley question if I've ever seen one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay? So I thought about responding to it, but I was hoping that somebody at some point would bring it up on a podcast because I think that a lot of people probably would have this question. Anytime somebody sleeps in a guest bedroom of mine, everything is stripped out of there because all of your guests might not know each other. Right. And so leaving dirty sheets, which they might not be dirty, from somebody who spent the night. I don't want somebody else coming in there and then sleeping on top of somebody's stuff that they don't even know.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I'm very weary. Like, I don't like sleeping out of my house. My second option is hotels because I already know what I'm getting, right? Like, I know the comforter's not washed. I know the sheets are. I check the bed for bed bugs. I also purchase, and it's a waste of money. It's like one of the things that I do waste money on. I get a specific threshold blanket from Target every time I travel. So then I collect them. But, like, I don't sleep with the comforter. I buy my blanket and I wear that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Wait, so you buy a new one every time?

[Kristen]

Yeah, because they're hard to travel with.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So what do you do? Just like, uber it or whatever?

[Kristen]

Yeah, like, I doordash it. I'll probably truly, if I don't have enough room in my vehicle that we're taking down to Myrtle beach, because I think we're taking extra people with us in the car. Normally it's just Cory and I. I will be doing a Target pickup or a Target drop off with threshold blankets for all.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm dead. I'm definitely a barefoot dreamzer girly. Also, there is, and I'm allowed to say this word on here. There is a dupe for barefoot dreams at Walmart, which I have for two of my beds, which are the size of your bed. So it's like king size, queen size, twin size. So it's not just like a blanket. And Jackson tends to love those.

[Kristen]

That's the threshold blanket at Target, which keep an eye on it for it to go on sale because they're very, very comfortable and they're the same thing. It's the size of your beds. So, like Corey and I, in our at home, we sleep with two king size blankets. Like, independently.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We don't.

[Kristen]

We don't share.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, ma'. Am. Because I know that y' all are the type of people that don't do the talk at the bottom of the bed that you all just have the blankets on the top of the sheet.

[Kristen]

But when you make it in the morning, you talk it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I just. I don't think I could do that for snuggle purposes. Like, how are you snuggling under a blanket?

[Kristen]

No, we don't want to. I don't want to. We'll snuggle. Like, I will lay on his chest. That's my version of snuggling. Other than that, I get way too hot and I grab my blanket and I lean into him so I have my blanket the way I want it. And he's a cocooner. I am like a loose sleeper with it like laid on top of me. He like cocoons. We are not the same so we need separate sleeping.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I wake up roughly around 2am every single morning and throw every cover off of me and lay there completely naked until I get cold again. And then I put the covers back on. I run so freaking hot. But I have to tell you, like last night I woke up two different times. I was told that I was dreaming and I said, no, don't do that to me. And I woke up. So I'm like, I don't know who was doing what to me, but like I was clearly telling them not to. I also somehow managed to get my head off of a pillow onto a side table near the bed and was sleep. My head was sleeping on the side table. So now I have a crick in my neck. And then a couple of hours later I jolted up. Have you ever had a Charlie Horse when you're sleeping?

[Kristen]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You've never had a Charlie horse at all?

[Kristen]

I've had a Charlie Horse, but not while sleeping. And I've only ever had two in my entire life.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay. Well, it is absolutely terrifying. And honestly, somebody needs to sue Charlie because I. I can't do it. I was so scared and I was like, please, like rub out my Charlie Horse. And he was now like, it hits.

[Kristen]

That stage where it's building. So it hits and it hurts, right? But then you feel it building and you're like, it's not at its worst yet.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, I never felt it building. It was just at its worst, honey. And I was like, oh, wow. Well, when I started walking around this morning, I was like a Charlie horse. Like after the fact. Almost feels like a sprain.

[Kristen]

Yes, it likes your day up. Yeah.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I woke up with sleeping on a bedside table with a crick in my neck and a Charlie Horse bruise or whatever. Sprain.

[Kristen]

I. I can't say I relate there. It sounds like you need guardrails, but this the speaking in your sleep that's giving Corey.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I talk in my sleep all the time. Like full blown conversations. And it's like, do I not talk enough?

[Kristen]

Evidently not. You still have to say, but Corey does the same thing and I'll wake up to it and I'm. I can usually guess what's going on. Like, no.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Have you ever been sleeping with somebody? Doesn't have to be like Corey and don't have to tell us who it is, but have you ever been sleeping with somebody and they're talking in their sleep but you're still kind of awake so you're eavesdropping on what they're saying because you're like, I swear to God, if you mention another girl's name, you're done.

[Kristen]

I mean, literally, Corey, I don't. I'm very odd. I don't. I didn't, even before Corey, actually physically sleep with a lot of individuals. Like, and I'm not talking have sex, which I also didn't have sex with a lot of individuals. Before we get that twisted. I. I couldn't do the sleeping thing. I'd be like, let's get our business done and I'll go home to my bed.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, yeah. No, just. No.

[Kristen]

I just. That's how I was. Truly, I had. I'm trying to think off the top of my head. There are three men. Three. Three men that I have actually slept with, like, overnight.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But I'm a big time snuggler. So I just love the aspect of snuggling. And I get it. If you're not a snuggler, you're like, what's the point? Because I'm going to be over here and you're going to be over there. But no, like, I will be finding the snuggle.

[Kristen]

I mean, valid. You just need that touch at night.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, but I have to tell you about this business that Jackson's trying to start.

[Kristen]

Please do. I can't wait.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I have videos and stuff, so I'll make sure that those get posted for a long while. Actually, since we divorced, Will would take Jackson out on the golf course and they would collect golf balls at night. It was just like something that they did. It was like active exercise, blah, blah, blah. So then they would clean them together. And then Jackson set up like a little golf ball stand and put a little tip jar. And then he had the clean golf balls there for golfers that don't know how to play golf could pick up extra balls. So that was working over there for a while. Then when I moved over here, he likes to golf ball hunt so much. And now because I live on the golf course, we can go together and do that. So he and his friends went out. Do you know that Those boys collected 43 golf balls off the course in like 35 minutes?

[Kristen]

My God.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They were going online seeing how much they could be paid for these golf balls. They are convinced that they have thousands of dollars wor of golf balls in the garage. Okay. Again, I will post pictures of these. But it made me so proud. Like, they were outside separating these golf balls out, washing them, bagging them into organized bags. So that he can sell these golf balls as a business. And he said, it's a really smart business decision because I can do this stuff on my own time. And then the money just makes itself because you just set it out there and then people just leave you tips. So I'm like, okay, that's really not a bad business plan. Well, then I see him come in and he's got my dawn power wash. He's got my Mr. Clean Clean Freak. He's got all my scrubby mommies. And I'm like, what are you doing? He said, oh, we're going to wash your trash cans. And I'm like, okay. They probably, like, put a fish or, like, something in there. They've done something. I go outside and I'm like, why? Why are you all just randomly washing my trash cans? Like your parents are going to think that, like, I have y' all do manual labor over here. And I don't really feel that comfortable with that. And they're like, well, we're practicing to start our business.

[Kristen]

Okay, so we are already on business. Number two. This is great.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We went through two businesses in one weekend.

[Kristen]

Amazing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We also were not were told not to, but did ring doorbells to ask if they could wash people's trash cans. And I was like, you guys cannot do that without a business card. Like, y' all don't have a business name. Y' all look like you're not the part. Like, y' all are showing up like Neanderthals in bathing suits, no T shirts, no shoes, baseball caps, backwards. I'm like, these people want you off your porch, Right?

[Kristen]

But, like, I need to know how many people took them up on this.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Only one couple. Well, they. I think they went to three houses and two people didn't answer the door. And one person answered the door and said because their trash can was full, they couldn't wash it that day, but they could wash it another day.

[Kristen]

Okay, fair. So they need to do a follow up.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. So I'm. I'm assuming that there will be a follow up. I was asked if I could purchase a pressure washer, a snake hose for them and all the supplies. And I was like, seems like this is costing me money.

[Kristen]

Yeah, you're gonna have to teach them a little thing about, like, net debt profit, but gross profit. Then you have to have your expenses come out of that. You're gonna have to do the whole thing.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, sleepovers actually cost a lot of money.

[Kristen]

Hell yeah, they do. That's why I never understood why the hell My parents wouldn't let me go to somebody else's house. Now as an adult, I understand why they didn't let me go to someone else's house, but it was still expensive.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, seriously, I was preparing for this sleepover like days before, correct?

[Kristen]

Oh yeah. Yes you were.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I do not keep like candy, like bad snack items in the house. It's like not a regular thing around here. And so, you know, to have the sleepover food, the cool food, we had to go to Kroger. I get into that line a hundred and twenty dollars later of snacks.

[Kristen]

Oh, I mean that's just food in general these days.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But yes, I'm like highway, actual highway robbery. Like if you think. And when I tell you there was not even a lot in my cart, we're talking like, you know, I'm, I'm getting in on the snacks because I needed an afternoon pick me up. So I'm drinking a Dr. Pepper. The amount of snacks were so minimal. And it was like a thing of Gatorade, a thing of Minute Maid lemonade. Like the cans Dr. Pepper and things of water. Maybe a handful of snacks. $120.

[Kristen]

Listen, pro tip, check the dollar store.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Listen, you and I have had this conversation before about the dollar store. There are a lot of things that I can get behind with the dollar store. I think that they have a great seasonal selection.

[Kristen]

They do.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And you don't feel that bad if you throw it away because it's like I paid a dollar for it, you know, so I'll get it, toss it. I'm not buying food from the dollar store because I, I don't know how long it's been there.

[Kristen]

All right, okay. I mean I can get behind it, but I'm talking like you could see expiration dates.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I know, but there's just something. It's kind of like going into like an old funky gas station and buying food items. Yeah, it's giving. We haven't cleaned this out in a long time.

[Kristen]

Yeah, no, I could see that for sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm just, I'm not doing that. So my house is empty and it's going through a deep clean today. So I'm very, very thankful for that. Trying to prepare to go back to school. Very proud of myself. Normally I am a last minute person. I have already purchased all the school supplies. I purchased the two pairs of crocs because why else would we like need other kind of shoes other than crocs? Have told him that they're going to be no white socks purchased and he quite Literally told his friends that if his parents don't purchase him white socks, then he's just going to draw a Nike emblem on socks that he can afford.

[Kristen]

You know what? Crafty again, entrepreneurial, spirit. I love it. He could probably sell those too. Actually, I take that back. I don't want to get sued by Nike.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But.

[Kristen]

It'S fine. Everything's fine. Here's the thing I need to understand about school supply shopping. Why does every teacher have a different list of shit?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, I think there's like a generalized school supply list. And then every class, like one teacher might want a three ring binder where one teacher might want folders.

[Kristen]

That's my point. Why?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, but like for like, what is your point? Because for organizational purposes for the class, like maybe that teacher is just like for purposes of my class. If I want them to leave their binders here and put it on a bookshelf for grading purposes, then I want all the binders lined up with your name on the outside thing. Some teachers might be like, I have different trays for folders and their names are on the outside of the folders and they put it according to subject in there for grading.

[Kristen]

I've just like, I remember back when I was in school and like some classes would be like, oh, you have to have a composition notebook. And then other classes were like, you need spiral. Why couldn't we just get on board with the same vibe? Like, why? Why are you doing it?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If we ask ourselves that in society, I think we're dealing with the same thing. None of us can get on board.

[Kristen]

You know what said? And I said, you want me to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Show you something that has like a major chokehold on me?

[Kristen]

Yes. And you're never gonna. Labubu, baby.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. Holy. I was watching this video last night about Labubu and people are cutting their heads off because apparently like these places that you can order them from are hiding like little cams in them. I'm like, is this a trafficking?

[Kristen]

So they're cutting the heads off of these expensive ass dolls because people are idiots. And hiding cameras inside.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. Like from where they purchase them from.

[Kristen]

What is wrong with everyone?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't know. Just the thoughts of like there being a doll at my house and there being a hidden camera in there. Like, Jesus, take the wheel.

[Kristen]

Listen, Capital murder chokehold.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're never going to guess what it is.

[Kristen]

Is it, wait, is it a food item?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Kristen]

Is it crunchy?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No.

[Kristen]

Is it healthy?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I hope. I mean it's gluten free, nut free, dairy free.

[Kristen]

It's oh, it's not crunchy. I'm out. I thought it was something we talked about, but no. Oh, my God.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Can Go go Squeeze sponsor me? Because honestly, they're not cheap and I go through so many of these. But it specifically has to be the apple cinnamon FL flavor.

[Kristen]

I've never had one. I've seen them. I've never had it. It's something about the. That right there that I don't know if I could get behind.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's so good. It's so good. It's the best afternoon little pick me up. Along with this Dr. Pepper.

[Kristen]

How many consume a day?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

How many Go go squeezes do I consume a day? Likely four.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Normally it's like this. Normally I come home from Pilates and I either have a protein bar in my car and then I come home and get a go go squeeze. And then I go about, like, getting myself together and whatever. Then about lunchtime, I have another Go go squeeze. And then it comes snack time and have another Go go squeeze. And then right before bed, I want a midnight snack. Go go squeeze.

[Kristen]

So in theory, this is a new food group for you?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. And I'm just an applesauce lover. Like, I've always loved applesauce, but the convenience of this and I don't know, there's just something about the apple cinnamon that really, like, strikes my fancy.

[Kristen]

My dad loved applesauce. Like, he would order that as a side at dinner. Like when we would go out to dinner. Yeah. Also love the cinnamon apples. Like, if, like a restaurant had those as a side dish, that was his go to. I unfortunately used to like applesauce, but I associate it now with taking horse pills because I have this thing which I'm getting better with, but if I had to take like a fat ass pill, my throat would literally close as I was drinking the water. Like, it's just a psychological thing. So my dad was like, nope, take a spoonful of applesauce, put the pill in the applesauce, swallow the applesauce. So now I just associate that with that and I don't love it as much as I used to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Capital murder. If I find out as big, like as big of an adult as you are, as big of an age of an adult that you are, if I find out that you have a can of applesauce in your fridge to take pills, no murder.

[Kristen]

No, I don't. I get the individuals for that purpose and then I think big spoonfuls of it out. So we still do this and that. I mean, it definitely happened in 2025, but I will. I definitely happened this year, but I will say, okay. I wish I had, like, one of my. Let me see if I do one of my vitamin D pills that they wanted me to be taking, which I just got yelled at by my doctor for not taking, and I thought I could scam her. And then she pulled my blood work, and I can't scam anything.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know what? It's people like you that causes me concern for society, because the fact that you think that you can scan, like, labs.

[Kristen]

I just didn't think it would show up again.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You thought you could scam blood work?

[Kristen]

I did. So I was like, whatever. So she's like, you really need to take that. Like, it's really important because your vitamin D level is less than 4. And I said, okay. So I said, here's. I said, here's the problem. The pill you gave me is very big. Like, it's very large. And she's like, oh, do you have a problem swallowing pills? And I'm over here, like, no, but yes. And she was like, I can just knock down, like, how many. Like, instead of taking it once a week, that huge one, you just take it every single day with tiny ones. I said, oh, you should have told me that last year. The whole time. She's like, you. You haven't taken it at all. I said, I didn't say that.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I took it one time.

[Kristen]

Yeah. And so, you know, we. We got around it. Now I could do it with water because it's super tiny.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, well, you and I bullshitted around long enough. We need to get to the actual point of this episode for this week. Wash your face like that.

[Kristen]

There's points in these podcasts. I'm confused.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Okay, so I would say. I don't even know how long it's been, but over the last week, a lot of people and. And by a lot of people, more people than I ever even imagined, notice that what I thought was quietly changing my last name on Instagram from Chrisley to Landsman was, like, a quiet movement for me. I did know when people eventually saw it, that it would raise questions. But how quickly people saw it was not something that I was necessarily prepared for. I was hoping. My hope was that I did that. And then by the time that I recorded for the show next, like, nobody would have seen it.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I guess because I thought if it's on your profile, if people are only, like, viewing your story, they're not necessarily seeing that, or if they're just like viewing your posts, they're not necessarily seeing that because that's not like your username.

[Kristen]

Mm.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So I didn't know that people would see it that fast. But I. I did want to publicly address that and just take a moment to directly speak to the people who listen to me every single week, the people who are on my online communities of why I made that choice. And Kristen, I mean, you can freely speak however you want to on this because you know all the ins and outs of the situation. For a long time, I very much battled with carrying my maiden last name. And with me carrying that last name came public association, assumptions of all different kinds, weight that I truly feel like I never asked for. And I do think it's fair to say that contrary to what some people believe, the Chrisley last name, while it did start with Chrisley Knows Best, and we all collectively were doing that project together outside of that, that last name did not create income or opportunity for me. In fact, it became very problematic with me being associated with. In any capacity in. In business and has been problematic for projects that I have done post Chris Lee Knows Best and have been asked to go by another name altogether.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I mean, I can speak to just seeing inner, you know, business dealings come in and there's perks and privileges to a lot of things in life. Right. So while you became known in a space that you started on, when the name became associated with what it became associated with, you, you lost a lot. You lost a lot of business deals, you lost a lot of. Just in general because of everything that transpired and the he said, she said, or the she said, she said, and all those things that were going on publicly, it did not vary well in business.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I think that that's where, I don't know if it's fair to say people, viewers, listeners, opposing parties, have that all misconstrued. I. I don't know how that could be misconstrued. I don't know.

[Kristen]

I think that there's like a very. There's a large number of people that love the Chrisley family. Right. Like absolutely love them. You know, certain narratives and things that were being spewed at certain times with whatever the dynamics were that were going on also led to having conflict, like with that name for you. But I think people just assume that because of what they saw on the show, that that last name was associated with a lot of privilege. And I'm not saying that it was not at one time, but that privilege did not necessarily extend all of the time to every Single one of you.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, and that privilege, for what it's worth, I was married all the way up until I left the show. And so my name was reflective of a Campbell up until that point. And after my divorce, I did return to my maiden name, Chris Lee, because that's just what I knew to do. Like, it wasn't because it felt necessarily right. It was just truly what was left. It was a name that I was born with, and it did no longer feel like mine. But what am I supposed to do?

[Kristen]

Well, in those situations, I think it's hard, too, because you're kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't, because if you kept Campbell, it's like, oh, she still hung up, you know, whatever the case may be, why would she not change her name? And then you change her name, you change, then you change your name back. People are not happy with that. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. I can speak on my own personal life. Like, I think that that's a personal decision you have to make. I. My mom asked for her name back when she got divorced. Before she married my dad, she asked for her name back. I know some people don't. So I think that it really. It just depends on what your personal ties and preference are. But I know with you being raised very traditionally, it's like you get divorced and you get rid of all the things, including the last name.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And, I mean, I know a lot of people who have kept their married last name now divorce and have children and have kept the married last name for the sake of the children. The intentions of me going back to my maiden name was solely because I felt like I needed to have my own identity outside of my marriage. And while I didn't feel like Chris Lee was no longer mine, Campbell certainly was no longer mine. And if anything was mine, it was what I was born with.

[Kristen]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I guess the. The whole premise behind why I didn't keep Campbell, because it. It is, I would say, more commonplace for people who have children for the ex wife to. To keep the last name. I know that's very common here in the south. And while I think that's great and works for some, it was just something that I didn't want to. I didn't want to do because I felt like I was so young and there would eventually be someone else. And it just felt a little icky to me to keep that last name. And then my last name would change from my first marriage to a potential second marriage. And something about that just didn't sit right with me. So I had all of my paperwork done that my maiden name would be restored. However, I could use Campbell in the realm of anything involving Jackson. So, like school paperwork, I can be listed as a Campbell on contact information, sign him out of school under that name, name any of that stuff involving him. We are Will and Lindsay Campbell.

[Kristen]

I mean, I think that's a happy medium, right? Like you use it for those purposes and then you have your own identity.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Outside of that, Outside of that recently. And, you know, I'm sure as much as anything that I say, which for the most part, I would say 99% of the time is in response to things that have been said, I'm sure things are sent that way. Things are sent to me this way. But I was made aware that there were comments that had been publicly made by my dad. One of those was saying, and I quote, can't wait to have grandchildren. That statement just completely, in my opinion, ignores my son Jackson, who is his biological grandchild. That type of erasure and emotional harm does not just affect me. And I think that's where others are not understanding. Because you have a public platform, there's just certain things that should not be said. It has and will continue to affect Jackson. What was said essentially sends a message to my son that he has not seen, that he is not valued. And that is something that I just will never tolerate. And I know that a lot of people have been so confused because shortly, shortly before my parents were sentenced and then sent to prison, there was a very public reconciliation. And it left a lot of you confused, but not just a lot of you. Also myself and that reconciliation. And I've said this before publicly, but I'll say it again. Was it play a long time before we ever sat down for those podcast episodes? And from, from my part and on my behalf, I did that for the sake of my son. I personally felt like he deserves to have a relationship with his family if he chooses that. And I never in any way want to be a roadblock to get in the way of that, regardless of any personal feelings that I have.

[Kristen]

And we've had conversations about that, because many times, not even just in that scenario, but you and I share the same belief that the children should never pay for adult mistakes, whether that's in marriage, divorce, relationships, family dynamics, all of the things the child, the children should never be affected. I speak as one who was affected, and I'm coming to terms with that as a 30 year old. So, you know, We've had so many conversations about that, and I think that that's really, really sad, that it. That it does and has and will impact Jackson.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And, I mean, I've. I've said to you privately that there does not have to require. There is no requirement to have a relationship with me to love your grandchild.

[Kristen]

And I think that that is something I commend you on for that, because there are so many people who don't feel that way. They feel like you have to have a relationship with me, and it has to be a certain way in order for me to give you access to my child. So I think that, you know, I know where your heart is and was during the reconciliation period. And it just makes me. It just makes me sad, truly.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It's never been more clear to me that that reconciliation was not genuine on anyone's behalf but my own. And that is not to throw any kind of shade. That is not to. You're a bad person. I'm a good person. You're a good person. I'm a bad person. That's not to say any of that. But when I signed up to do that and when we were creating those episodes, I truly wanted to come out on the other side of that and move forward in life together. And I do feel that I was led to believe that that's what we were doing, and that's absolutely not what we were doing. And so I've had to come to terms with a lot of that stuff on my own. And I think it's fair for me to say that my number one priority in this life is to create an emotionally safe environment for Jackson, but also myself and an environment for my child that is free from any type of conditional love, public erasure, or private pain. I will never let him question his worth or have any questions to wonder why. And I just want everyone listening to this, that while a family that has been publicly followed on TV and now, you know, whatever's currently going on in their lives that I am completely separate from. It's none of my business. I. I truly don't care. I wish you well. Making statements that could. Could harm emotionally and mentally a child for the sake of an interview, like, I just. I can't get behind that.

[Kristen]

Well, what really sucks is Jackson's 12. Okay. So he has access to these things. Yep. And you and I have seen how many times things have been said to Jackson by people at school, by friends, by friends, parents, anywhere you could think of, teachers. So the fact that he saw that makes me incredibly Sad. As a mom, I can't even imagine. I'm not a parent, but I can only imagine, like, when you just want to protect your child from everything you can protect them from, especially pain and hurt. I can't imagine how that would make you feel, not even speaking to what it does as like a daughter.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, and none of this was my child's choice. And so for him to have to navigate a lot of these things that he had no hand in mentally and emotionally, I absolutely will never stand for that, ever.

[Kristen]

No.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You're wanting to live your own life, you want to do your own thing, you want no association. Neither do I. But just move on.

[Kristen]

Continue to speak and say things that could be incredibly hurtful. And again, for me specifically, I look at it from the child's perspective because I've been there and it's not fair for him to have to pay for. Because at the end of the day, Lindsay, you and I could look each other dead in the face and we both know you have all said your shit. You know what I mean? Everybody has said their shit.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yep.

[Kristen]

It shouldn't have impact any of the kids involved. I'm not even just talking about Jackson. I'm talking about any of the kids in general.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I just think, you know, currently, whatever they have going on, like, on top of the public statements that have been made, there has also been name calling that has been going on, specific commentary that has been directed at me by a member of, I guess my family, my public family. Things that have been said privately that, you know, that I'm aware of, that maybe others that are doing these actions are not aware that I'm aware of. It's just disheartening. Like there is. I want nothing bad for you. Like just move on and away from me.

[Kristen]

No, I mean, I would agree. I think that that is the healthiest thing that everybody can do, is to wish each other well and move on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

For the sake of my own mental health and. And my emotional well being. It's not something that I can continue to allow into my life. I feel like I have worked truly so hard to have a grounded and peaceful life and you know, that journey and what that has looked like, and I am just not going. I refuse to allow any type of disrespect or dysfunction to have any type of seat at my table.

[Kristen]

100% accurate. I've seen you clean house for sure.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Specifically in regards to choosing to change my last name to Landsman is not a long and drawn out situation. It truly was a decision that I made about reclaiming my peace and stepping into my future that is defined by love growth over the past couple of years and just forward movement. And you know, the big question is, is David and I married? And we are not married. I feel that it is fair to say that he and I built a safe and loving relationship that allows for stability in my life and in Jackson's life and in this chapter. That name feels like home to me. It has nothing to do with erasing my past. It is all about choosing my future and protecting the people that I love most while doing so. And it felt like it was the right thing to do. I also wanted to address was not posted by me, but wanted to address the ring photo that was posted that absolutely was not an engagement ring. Very much a physical symbol of promise and commitment that we have made to each other and our blended family. And I, I just feel like I would absolutely not not tell people.

[Kristen]

I mean, I know that next week you get a little bit more into this with kale on coffee combos like next Thursday, but you have said it so many times that like you did it in more of like a not secret way but more private way before. Like you would want to celebrate that with people. I think it was so funny even. I mean, you know, they'll hear it in the episode, but even you had kale. Like what the going on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Mm. Yeah. And while I'm not opposed to any type of elopement situation in regards to marriage, I just think because I I already technically did eloping before, I could see myself having a private ceremony with just us and our children and then having more of a large party with friends and family to be involved and to have a good time and to be able to celebrate that time of life. I am not big on weddings. So E. News, I will give it to you.

[Kristen]

You.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You got that right. I did want to say though, and I have made this statement before, I feel that it is fair to say that anyone that has any last name association, I have said this before on this show and I am going to repeat the same statement. We can all very much live in the same space doing the same things and not necessarily agree or align. And there is no hate, there is no ill will whatsoever. There is room for everyone. And I just want to thank everybody who's listening to me for supporting me, taking the time and giving me the space to be able to grow even when that growth there is change. And so I don't want anybody to think that I'm just going to Leave them out of a situation. That would be like such an impactful moment of my life. I wouldn't do that. No.

[Kristen]

And I think that that's. You would have the people there that you would want there and that would, you know, support you and love you and all the things.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I also just wanted to take a moment to. To briefly address some of the speculation around the photos that were posted on Instagram. Just to give you guys a little backstory on that. Those images were from a beach family photo shoot that we had actually originally planned back in the spring. And during that time, it was so, so cold where we went that we didn't feel comfortable taking the kids out on the beach or for us to even be out on the beach. It was so windy. It was so cold. And the things that I wanted to capture and what I had envisioned just wouldn't have been able to be executed. And the beach trip that we recently went on, there was just another opportunity to reschedule those photos. And we shot it. And the photos were pre scheduled for posting by my team. And that's all I can really say about that. I can say from a Southerner, you know, you wear a white dress your first wedding and you don't wear a white dress, you wear cream for a second. So I kind of believe in that. And maybe we can use that for another talking point at another time. Have you ever heard that, Kristen?

[Kristen]

I didn't know it was a Southern thing. I knew.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Oh, maybe it's not.

[Kristen]

I didn't know it was just a Southern thing because, like, my mom got married in a white dress and did not wear wedding. Wear white for her second wedding. And like my whole family that has been divorced did not do the white for the second.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And I, I think I definitely wouldn't do white because white is a signature for purity. And I believe in the Bible and I. I believe that I would be on my second marriage and I shouldn't. I personally should not be wearing white. And so for those reasons alone, that theory just like, does not work. The timing truly originally seemed purely coincidental because I had all of my stuff lined up for a posting schedule. And then after reading the comments, well, then after comments from family members that was kind of lining up with all of this, it truly led me to believe that there was divine intervention at play.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I think that you're not one to typically believe in coincidences. Nope, neither am I. So it is really funny how that panned out because I can speak for myself. When those pictures went live, when Those pictures went live for about two minutes. Your name was still Lindsay Chrisley. And I knew that it wasn't anybody on your team that changed that name, so. So I was like, what the fuck is going on?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, I didn't post the photos. I just changed the name. So I do completely understand how seeing those photos and then paired with the name change and then the ring image may have led some people to believe that I had quietly gotten married. And that's just simply not the case. And like I said earlier, if and when I get to that place, I would absolutely share that information so freely to those who have supported me. There has been another question that has been regularly circulating that I just wanted to take a quick second to address as well, of why David's child has not been pictured in anything and specifically related to the beach photos. As many of you listening are aware, or I would assume would be aware. We are a blended family. And just out of respect of the other parent involved, we collectively made intentional decisions to not post David's child publicly. What he does with his stuff, because that's his child is his personal business, but it just won't be posted on mine. And it's so important to us that boundaries are completely honored and every child in our life is protected and supported both online and off.

[Kristen]

I think that that's a good, a good decision. I do think that that's a good one.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think it's just such a hard, it's such a hard situation to be in because while you want everyone to be able to see like the full picture of what's going on, and I do know that we have such incredible photos to be able to share. It's not, it's not my place or I don't feel that it's my place to share those things.

[Kristen]

Yeah, like there's just certain things that are not for public consumption and that's, you know, you have your photos for private at home and those things and those memories still happened. I think that if I had to guess, I think a lot of people. I don't want to speak for you, but I think a lot of people would. Knowing what social media is today compared to when they started posting their kids, I think that a lot of people would make the decision to not have their kids on it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Well, and I just also know that I would not necessarily want somebody posting pictures of my child outside of my ex husband unless he was married to them. Our situation is a little bit, a little bit different because they also didn't ask for their child to be associated with a large public platform either.

[Kristen]

Right. It's not, it's not a regular everyday situation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. But outside of all of that, I wanted you to tell me what you think about this HOA news that I found on AOL.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We regularly talk about HOAs on this podcast. It has been a very hot topic. It was hot topic in the Facebook group and when I saw this in the news this week, this was a money wise article and it says, Arizona man's HOA keeps fining him a hundred dollars for giving out water in the heat. The lawyer for the HOA explains and ask, do you agree? So it says that he wanted to help his neighbor stay hydrated during the triple digit temperatures, but now he's being fined for it by his homeowners association. He has been placing a cooler filled with food, free bottled water, near the sidewalk outside of his home since May of 2020. It's for the kids, the, the delivery drivers, the couple holding hands walking down the street. That's what he told a local outlet. He said it's for the little kid who has to walk his dog in the heat. It says that the HOA and its management company gave him a warning for his cooler, but followed up with an apology letter. It says in a quote, at that point I thought it was over and done and we wouldn't have any more problems ever again until May of this year. Which then in May, he received his first fine of $50, eventually escalating multiple citations for a hundred dollars. Ever since then, he has been receiving fines of a hundred dollars whenever he puts his cooler out, when it gets hot out.

[Kristen]

First of all, hoa. All right, so that's where I'm at there. That's never gonna change. As far as HOA rules, I already think that they're insane, but if you choose to live in one, whatever, that's your prerogative. I will say, at the point where something is benefiting the freaking community and it's doing good, I don't give a. I also still don't care about your hoa, but at that point, also, fuck your hoa.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, so this guy says that the fines are unfair, he said, and it's dangerous in a state where he has already killed dozens this year. Here we are in July, the hottest days of the year, and we're still talking about a water cooler with four free cold water. It's ridiculous that they are adding violations to a total that's not going to get paid because I'm giving out free.

[Kristen]

Water for the love of God, can we just like pay this man's HOA like fees? Can we all come together and give him to pay them? Because that's crazy.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I absolutely will pay this HOA man's fees if he calls me, it says. An attorney for the HOA released a statement saying that the association does not object to a resident providing free water bottles to the community. However, the rules do not allow a resident to advertise water bottle distribution from a portable ice chest located near their garage that is visible from neighboring property.

[Kristen]

So I want to know who reported them? Did the HOA see it or did one of his neighbors report him?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

You know, I'm still on the fence on that remains tbd still completely on the fence this week because of the conversation tents of this episode. I didn't feel that it would be in our best interest to to read Weekly Tea because I didn't want to make light of the seriousness. But I do have weekly devotional and I think that you'll actually love this one. Your next chapter is going to be so beautiful. You're going to breathe. You're going to be able to finally rest knowing that you've come so far. You're going to see why things happen the way that they did. The weight on your back is about to be lifted. Soon, very soon, you'll be smiling again. You're about to build a life that you won't have to escape from. You're about to go on adventures that were once just dreams for you. You're about to grow in confidence, in your self awareness, comfortable in your own skin. You're about to release all the pressure to be someone that you're not. You're going to live free from the idea that you must follow specific timelines. Your next chapter is coming, my friend. It's going to be peaceful and it will be the healing that you've always wanted.

[Kristen]

I love that and I am wishing you nothing but happiness on your non marriage.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, I'm going to clean house, go to Pilates and go to David's because he's gonna cook me some crab cakes for dinner. So thank you guys so much for listening. If you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that from any podcast app wherever you get your pods. Always first at Podcast one. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.

[Kristen]

Bye.

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