Not A Slave To My Chains Part 3

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Southern Tea — “Not A Slave To My Chains, Part 3”

Host: Lindsie Chrisley (PodcastOne)
Date: October 29, 2025
Summary Prepared By: [Expert Podcast Summarizer]

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Main Theme and Episode Overview

This episode is the third installment of a crossover series delving into the Chrisley family’s tumultuous journey through public scandal, personal betrayals, legal battles, and attempted reconciliations. Lindsie Chrisley (“Southern Tea" host) offers an unvarnished, deeply personal chronicle of her relationships with her father, Todd Chrisley, her siblings (Savannah and Chase), and other family members. The conversation moves from the fallout over the alleged sex tape scandal, false narratives portrayed in the media and family docuseries, to Lindsie's journey of release and closure. The tone is candid, vulnerable, and often poignant, laying bare the emotional cost of public feuds and family estrangement.

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Key Sections & Insights

1. Setting the Record Straight (00:52–05:00)

• Operating in the Spotlight: Lindsie opens by describing how the Chrisley family scandals became entrenched in public discourse, especially the alleged sex tape and subsequent allegations. The narrative, as portrayed in media and family statements, often paints her unfairly as the "villain."
• Media Manipulation: Lindsie discusses her experience feeling like the target of a “joint effort to villainize me.”
  “It’s a joint effort to villainize me.” — Lindsie, (01:10)
• Reconciling (2021): Lindsie reveals that the family was “silently reconciling” during a calm period in 2021, maintaining private relationships while publicly presenting distance.

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2. The Podcast Crossover & Family Dynamics (05:00–10:11)

• Genesis of the Crossover: The idea for a family podcast crossover was meant as “the most authentic thing” to address rumors and give the family control over their story, bypassing TV network filters.
• Savannah’s Involvement:
  “She was never involved in any conversation regarding the Chrisley crossover... It was by courtesy that we involved her somewhat last minute to be able to use that project to launch her business.” — Lindsie, (04:43)
• Business vs. Personal: Lindsie emphasizes the reconciliation was about family, not business or audience reach, yet expresses frustration at Savannah leveraging the crossover for her own podcast’s launch and later diminishing its authenticity.

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3. Fallout & Family Communication Breakdown (10:13–17:14)

• Aftermath of the Crossover: Lindsie and co-host note the limited benefit for their established shows, compared to the immediate growth Savannah experienced.
• Podcast as Olive Branch:
  “It wasn’t about the business. It wasn’t about the money. It wasn’t about the listeners. Like, that’s not what it was about.” — Lindsie, (10:13)
• Addressing Contradictory Narratives: The episode highlights inconsistencies in statements made by Savannah and Todd—such as who wanted the crossover and who benefited most.

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4. Communications with Todd after Sentencing (11:46–17:29)

• Correspondence Proof: Lindsie provides concrete receipts, including text messages and visitation records, disproving claims that she ceased contact post-sentencing.
• Efforts to Offer Support:
  Lindsie describes sending religious books to both parents in prison:
  “My utmost for his highest... I sent it without being asked.” — Lindsie, (13:51)
• Withdrawal from Relationship: The breakdown intensifies when Savannah gains power of attorney, halting Lindsie’s attempts to coordinate podcast income for the incarcerated parents.

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5. The Nanny Faye Conflict & Public Narratives (17:29–23:54)

• Podcast Guest Dispute: Lindsie shares emails regarding her attempt to have Nanny Faye on her podcast, revealing logistical excuses likely served as a means to prevent association, and further criticizing the narrative that Savannah “never had help.”
• Discrepancies in Family Accounts:
  Lindsie: “If the truth was what was in his [Todd’s] email, I can be understanding…but how does that align with Savannah then putting Nanny and Chloe on a plane…if she needed rest?” (21:34)

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6. Escalating Public Accusations (24:59–37:30)

• Public Remarks & Social Media: Savannah publicly insinuates that Lindsie “put [her] parents in prison” (35:07), further isolating her.
• Family Erasure:
  The most emotionally charged moment comes as Todd, on Fox News, claims he “can’t wait to be a granddad,” erasing Jackson, Lindsie’s son, from view.
  • “That kind of public erasure is like not okay…my child’s mental health isn’t up for grabs for anybody to inflict that kind of pain on him.” — Lindsie, (38:33)

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7. The Toll on Personal Life & Emotional Well-being (41:19–46:36)

• Impact on Jackson: Lindsie recounts how Jackson noticed the public erasure, prompting questions no child should have to face.
  • “Hey mom, does people not know that papa has two grandchildren? Do they not know about us?” — Jackson (via Lindsie, 40:23)
• Nonexistent Support System:
  “I didn’t have anyone…and so Will and I were best friends through the divorce process… It is my job when I brought him [Jackson] into this world, to protect him at all cost.” — Lindsie, (44:14)

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8. Attempts at Closure and Letting Go (47:52–71:17)

• Refusal to be the Scapegoat: Lindsie addresses why she’s repeatedly blamed despite evidence showing her lack of involvement in the federal case that imprisoned her parents.
  • “I have never had any of that information…all of the information was not found out through me. It was found out through a business partner that turned them in and got full immunity.” — Lindsie, (51:20)
• Desire for Peace:
  “I no longer feel like after going through all of this, that I need any more release of anything. Right?… The chains are literally broken.” — Lindsie, (67:50)
• Symbolic Release: In a moving closing sequence, Lindsie details the symbolic removal of jewelry—gifts from her parents and reminders of promises—as an act of final release and self-redemption.
  • “Promise to Jackson. You broke it…Promise to myself to find peace. I just found it…Promise to be safe. I just found safety. I feel free.” — Lindsie, (71:21)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |--------------|----------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:10 | Lindsie | “It’s a joint effort to villainize me.” | | 04:43 | Lindsie | “She was never involved in any conversation regarding the Chrisley crossover…” | | 10:13 | Lindsie | “It wasn’t about the business. It wasn’t about the money. It wasn’t about the listeners.”| | 35:07 | Savannah (text) | “You are correct, Lindsay… helped to put them in prison. I helped them get out…” | | 38:33 | Lindsie | “My child’s mental health isn’t up for grabs for anybody to inflict that kind of pain...”| | 40:23 | Jackson | “Mom, does people not know that papa has two grandchildren? Do they not know about us?” | | 51:20 | Lindsie | “I have never had any of that information. All the information was not found out through me…” | | 67:50 | Lindsie | “The chains are literally broken…I can agree that I want no relationship there…” | | 71:21 | Lindsie | “Promise to Jackson. You broke it…Promise to myself to find peace. I just found it…” |

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• 00:52 – Discussion of the sex tape, media narrative
• 03:05 – Details on the intent and authenticity of the “Chrisley family crossover"
• 04:43 – Savannah’s involvement and later public statements
• 10:13 – Lindsie clarifies she did the crossover out of love, not business
• 13:51 – Lindsie’s compassionate outreach to parents in prison
• 21:34 – The Nanny Faye podcast guest issue and exposure of contradictions
• 35:07 – Savannah's TikTok comment blaming Lindsie for parents’ imprisonment
• 38:33–44:14 – Public erasure of Jackson, emotional impact on Lindsie's son
• 51:20 – Lindsie provides full context on the government investigation
• 67:50–71:17 – Symbolic removal of jewelry and promises; act of personal liberation

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Tone & Final Reflections

Throughout, Lindsie is vulnerable, determined, and frequently pained but resolute in carving her own peace. She methodically debunks rumors, exposes the emotional toll of her family’s public feuds, and ultimately enacts a symbolic, personal closure. The episode is not simply about setting the record straight, but about reclaiming agency and self-worth after years of being scapegoated.

“The chains are literally broken... I want to live in peace with my son. I have a desire to get married. I have a desire to have another child. And this situation no longer holds control over me.” — Lindsie (67:50)

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For Listeners

If you have not listened to the previous parts or are unfamiliar with the Chrisley family saga, this episode stands as both a deeply personal account and a cautionary tale about public life, family rifts, and the need for personal truth and boundaries.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Maybe I'm just like, weird. Maybe I'm crunchy. This is the Southern Tea with Lindsay Chrisley. I think it's so funny when you get Christmas cards and all of these people write their children's accomplishments on the back. I don't love them. A southern girl and a boy mom who's trying to navigate life while staying true to her roots. I am a functioning, non functioning human being right now. Join Lindsay each week as she swears to spill the tea, the whole tea and nothing but the tea. Tea that is the tea. Here's Lindsay. Welcome back to another episode of the Southern Tea. This is part three of the three part crossover event.

[Kale Lowry]

Part one can be found on the.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Southern Tea podcast or on patreon.com Kale.

[Kale Lowry]

Lowry Part 2 can be found on.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Coffee Combos podcast or patreon.com KLOW the.

[Interviewer/Host]

Sex Tape and that all being leaked and scaring you with the sex tape. Right. Paints you in a light that's like, okay, maybe Lindsay could have done this. Maybe Lindsay could have contacted the FBI and been a part of their indictment. Why is it only you?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think because now there's something that has to be followed, right? The sex tape and the media did exist. So I think it was from my perspective, it was a latching on. She lied about this and she did this and she's against us and it's. It's a joint effort to villainize me. Was this an operation by their pr?

[Interviewer/Host]

So that letter goes up on the Most recent trailer. 2021. Everyone's pretty well behaved. Safe to say not a whole lot transpired in 2021.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Everyone was pretty well behaved because we were silently reconciling during that time.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay, and you're in communications with Todd. What is the relationship like with Savannah at this time?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I wasn't in communication with her at that time. I. When we first started speaking and when I say we, me and my dad, he had asked if Jackson and I would come to Palm Springs because they had rented a house there. And I agreed to go to Palm Springs.

[Interviewer/Host]

Is that the first time that you guys communicated? He reached out to you to ask you or was there other?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

We were. We were in communication for a little while before that was asked and I agreed to go. Took Jackson and we went to Universal and I brought up the concern, you know, we're in a Universal park. Chris Lee Knows Best is a part of a universal family. If anybody catches wind of this or gets a photo, it could end up on the Internet. Like, we need a story to explain what's going on and are we okay to say that. That we are in the process of reconciling? That went on for a period of time until we decided that it was going to be public and we were going to do the Chrisley family crossover that involved coffee combos, their podcast, the Southern Tea, and Savannah's podcast was launching.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay, so in 2021, you're silently reconciling. You and your dad get on board with publicly stating that you guys are reconciling. And your relationship with Savannah was what.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It'S always been somewhat strained, I would say, since I left the show initially. Not volatile, but strained and just very surface. The intent of going public with this and doing the crossover of the podcast and not involving production, because at that time I believe they were still filming for Chrisley Knows Best.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I told my dad I had no interest in doing anything regarding Chris Lee Knows Best because I wanted us to be able to have control of our own story and not a network.

[Interviewer/Host]

And you more so wanted to be a part of the family than anything else.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. This was not just about business, but this was about. We are publicly followed people, and people knew about the estrangement. That that was no secret. And with the podcast, we have the ability to be able to tell our own story at one point that we did not have, which we only had Chrisley Knows Best. Right. I thought it was the most authentic thing to do that jointly on our podcasts, even after the fact that the episodes aired, someone from the network actually congratulated my dad about it and said that it was very well done.

[Interviewer/Host]

This year, 2025, Savannah says that Todd and Lindsay had this idea, but believes it was more your idea. And Savannah thought it was bullshit from the beginning for you guys to do the entire Chrisley crossover.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I don't want to come off as harsh, but the hurt is very deep. And I think sometimes with her being mouthpiece for Chris Lee camp for years now at this point, to make a statement like that, that she believed that it was more my idea. She was never involved in any conversation regarding the Chrisley crossover. Initially, my dad said that she wanted to start a podcast and had plans to start a podcast. It was by courtesy that we involved her somewhat last minute to be able to use that project to launch her business. Okay, so I find that very disheartening that you would use the project that you weren't initially thought of to be involved in, which I graciously allowed you to be involved in, to give you a part to be involved in to launch your podcast and to tap into other audiences that were already established and communities were already created. And you had the ability that you and I weren't given that luxury.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, we had to start from scratch.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And you were graciously allowed to be involved in it. And if you truly felt that it was from the beginning, then why did you participate in the way that you participated and say some of the things that you said during that crossover? Because I have never said that I was genuine about it.

[Interviewer/Host]

So essentially, Savannah was talking about, you know, she was in support of a reconciliation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. And then now, when being asked about the crossover and what you're referencing, I'm assuming from 2025 is a reference from the lifetime back to reality.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I still maintain the same thing that I've always said. I did that with the intent of clearing up public air, whether I had to take heat or they had to take some heat or whatever. It was like this was where we were at that time, to be honest and to be able to be authentic, like, everybody has family problems. I just feel like if you're out here now saying in 2025 that it was bullshit from the beginning. You were grown then when you did it, and you launched a business off of that project, if you felt like it was then you inauthentically participated. That doesn't. It does not make it to be inauthentic to me, maybe to her.

[Interviewer/Host]

But then also, if that is the case and she was a willing participant of the crossover and then went on to say that she was in support of a reconciliation, now I would imagine that people are going to question everything that she has said, because what is then and what is genuine?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Like, why are we participating in things that we don't believe in? And we could have very well done that project without her participation. We did not need her participation for that. She got a silver spoon handed to her in the podcast space to do that.

[Interviewer/Host]

So the way that the crossover worked, for anyone listening who's new, or maybe you're a listener of one of the podcasts, but not all of them. Lindsay had come to me, expressed to me what, you know, what the plan was. I wasn't necessarily a part of it, but to my knowledge, it was a reconciliation between Lindsay, her parents, and then Savannah ultimately was a part of it. And so the way that it worked was Savannah would get to launch her podcasts already tapped in to other people's podcasts listeners. So for those of you guys who don't understand the podcast industry, the best way to grow a podcast is to do crossovers with other podcasts. And when you're brand new and you have Lindsay and I already established for three, four years at this point, we have an audience after four years. And your parents already had their podcast, so they had an audience. Your sister was able to tap into audiences that she otherwise would not have gotten right away.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I find it to be very interesting, too, that it said that, you know, essentially it was a bad idea. It was. However it was said. If that's the case, then why did everybody else's show get growth but ours audience?

[Interviewer/Host]

It wasn't beneficial to us.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

It wasn't beneficial to us, but numbers don't lie. People do. You were the last one to air through the crossover, so.

[Interviewer/Host]

So anyone who was following this crossover had to go through three different audiences. It was Coffee Combos, Crisley Confessions, the Southern Tea, and then finally Savannah. So if you were following the entire thing, you had to tap into Savannah's finally. And so by that, she was able to get listens and audience growth right away. But Coffee Combos did not. It didn't do anything for Coffee Combos.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

There was very little benefit across the board for what participated from our camp collectively. I also find it very disheartening that platforms have been used that not only were audiences of ours that you and I have worked hard to create these communities. Right. They were able to tap in to that, but it was a project. Was it when you came to me to ask terms of my podcast contract so that you could copy them, was that also bullshit because that's how you're paid?

[Interviewer/Host]

It's a fair point. It's a valid point.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I truly was willing to do this because she was my sister. It wasn't about the business. It wasn't about the money. It wasn't about the listeners. Like, that's not what it was about.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, it's you. You two are sisters, and you finally have something in that could bring you together that could, you know, be an olive branch to talk about, to have something in common. So I don't. And. And if I know you, I know that you have a soft spot in your heart where you have a hard exterior, but truly, you just want to be a part of your family. You want to have a relationship with your dad and your sister, Your sister, your siblings, general. So it's upsetting to hear people talk about you in that way. It's really upsetting. All of that happens by the end of 2022, before your parents go to prison. You're in communications with Todd to get together for Christmas on 992025 of this year. A Tale of Two Sisters Episode 3 of the Chrisley's Back to Reality airs in this episode. At minute 53, Todd calls in from prison about the letter that you wrote to the FBI regarding basically getting please make him be quiet. But nothing else. You read the letter just a few minutes ago and you talk about it says that the bridge had been burned and there was no way back. I'm assuming that that meant the relationship between the two of you, but this is interesting because you and your dad actually did have communication after the sentencing and you were supposed to visit for the holidays, which we do have proof and receipts of in 2022. So you did in fact have communications with him.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The communications were a couple of weeks prior to Christmas. This was going to be their last Christmas at home. I had told him that I had talked to Savannah about bringing Jackson to see him. I also wanted to be sensitive to the situation of you're going to prison in less than a month, you know, from this time. So I sympathetically say I know your nerves are shot. I'm taking him to Courtside seat on Dec. 28 to a Hawks game for his birthday and we'll have him for Christmas. Savannah and I talked about only doing Christmas for the kids and I think that's the best thing to focus on this time I can get a hotel with yalls nerves and come spend the days and the new year with Jackson until he has to go back to school. My dad then proceeds to say you're not taking him to a hotel. My kids don't say and stay in hotels when I have a home. Not great with finances.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Interviewer/Host]

You have the text messages? I'm looking at them. But to your point about visiting, you visited Todd in prison how many times? Three times?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, three times.

[Interviewer/Host]

Three times he enters prison 2023, January of 2023. And you send Todd a book that was delivered on January 17, 2023. What book was it and was it requested or was it something you thought of and you sent?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

My utmost for his highest paperback religious book. I sent it without being asked.

[Interviewer/Host]

You just wanted to send him books. You also sent Julie books same time?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

What was your relationship like with Julie at this time? Had you had communications with her?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Very minimal. She had a much harder time in the communication world than my dad did in prison. It took her a really long time to get her communication emails set up and for people to be approved and stuff like that. For a long period of time I was told through my nanny that she would call me and I wouldn't answer, but I wasn't getting any calls coming from her. I would have answered those calls. I know that it took days, sometimes weeks for her to even be able to get communications to come through my dad's was pretty instantaneous. So the communicating with him was a lot easier. But yeah, I sent him that book. And then it looks like I sent the one year Bible on the same day. And then I sent him the King James version of the study Bible and the five people that you meet in heaven. And it appears as if I sent Julie the Bible in 52 weeks. A year long Bible study for a woman. Having Mary heart and a Martha world study guide and having a merry heart and a Martha world, finding intimacy with God. I don't say any of that to say or to make it sound like I did a lot. It's for reference of. There was no communication post sentence.

[Interviewer/Host]

Clearly there was.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Again in January 2023 Ton Todd sends. Your dad sends his first email to you from prison asking for you to contact the podcast network about his podcast, Chrisley Confessions. And what was that conversation, what was that email about?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

When I went to visit him with nanny that time, we had had discussions regarding his podcast and I said if there anything that I could do to help, like while you're here, if you want them to run certain kinds of stuff to try to create some income, then I can help facilitate that. And. And he asked me to do so.

[Interviewer/Host]

I remember having a conversation with you around that time where I asked you like, what is their plan for their podcast? Like is there a way for you guys to rotate recording on that podcast so that they could have income. And you had just let me know that you were going to work it out with them. But I. I just say that to say, like, even I was, like, trying to help figure out a way to, like, generate income for them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah. And so I was asked to go to the podcast network, and I. I did. Then Savannah slapped the podcast network with a power of attorney, I believe, and shut those conversations down, and that was it.

[Interviewer/Host]

So between January and April of 2023, Todd sent over 50 messages back and forth with you via Core Links. Core Links, which is software for inmates to contact people. What. What were those messages about?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Various different things. When was I going to make my next visit? How was Jackson doing? Stuff about his day, about medications that he wasn't being provided in prison, his job.

[Interviewer/Host]

So the infamous letter about the sex tape to the FBI was read at the sentencing. And your dad goes on the record on this docu series and says that the bridge was burned, insinuating that he's no longer having contact with you. Making people believe that you guys were not in contact when in fact, you guys were in contact a long time. It wasn't until he was in prison for three months that you cease communication.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. And I guess that's the most difficult thing because it's the. The same narrative that's being painted by Savannah that, you know, the crossover was. But yet you participated, and yet you benefited. Right? My dad doing that same. Same song and dance. If you didn't want to have anything to do with me, like, I can respect that. Right. Like, I can say, okay, as a grown adult, you have the right to say, I don't want a relationship with you. And that's for me to deal with at that point. Like, my own emotions, my own stuff as a grown woman. That wasn't what was going on. And so were all of these communications in vain and a lie? Like, I don't know, because I was honestly just. Like, I honestly participated in the crossover. I was honestly communicating with him in a state of desiring to have a relationship for whatever type of relationship we could have.

[Interviewer/Host]

This is a disagreement, March of 2023, between you and your dad via the same core links about a family issue. Todd emails. And this is regarding Nanny is supposed to come on the Southern Tea podcast. Savannah does not want Nanny Fay to come on the Southern team podcast. Why?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The same reason. That's what is being alleged in this response.

[Interviewer/Host]

But I'm gonna call her bluff on that as well, because Savannah has publicly said that no one helped her, but it sounds to me as though Nanny.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Fay was helping her significantly. Helping with.

[Interviewer/Host]

With Chloe in particular.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. Again, this wasn't about just business. Like when Nanny liked to be on the podcast. She enjoyed doing, gave her extra spending money to be able to do it. And she and I really had a great time doing it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

She would come and visit, stay a couple of days. We would record, you know, for the podcast, and then she would go and visit my dad's brother. And sometimes she would just go back to Nashville. This email to me, I'm going to call the bluff on this email because that was just an excuse because they did not want Nanny associated with me because it does not fit the narrative of what they have tried to spin all along.

[Interviewer/Host]

So you tell your dad, what do you. What. What do you email your dad?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

So he messages me on March or March 13th at 209. But if you see from the email, it'll say he dates it March 12 because it takes that long for them to filter through because they have to read them. Yeah. So he says, hey, Beauty, I hope you're well. I wanted to email you so that you could tell mama you're holding off on having her on your podcast this week due to her second doctor's appointment. She is very tired after second visit and is for two days later and I don't want her falling asleep while driving that far. Maybe you could do it via Zoom or phone and that way she doesn't have to leave her house. I have so much to share with you when you come back. When are you coming? Tell my baby and my favorite grandson how much I love him. I tried to call you this morning, but it picked up on your end but never hit five to accept the call, so I don't know if it went to voicemail or what. Always and forever, dad. So that was the email that I received. My email in response was good morning. This is quite disturbing email. As. As had this been communicated to me properly, there wouldn't have been an issue. This date was given some time ago and the network financials involved as well as my financial spend on this. It's interesting because Savannah knew about this and the only issue was child care for Chloe, which I offered to have her here to spend the weekend with her. So little of an issue. Savannah was going to put them on a plane and send them from Atlanta to Pensacola. This is relayed to me from you within less than five than five business days to pivot. That's unprofessional. I will conduct the interview via Zoom and remove myself from any further engagements regarding any of this and any future projects. Thank you for relaying the message. Regards, Lindsay. So you're upset because, number one, it's just disrespectful. There was communications that were had with Savannah. If. If the truth was what was in his email, I can be understanding of a treatment and needing rest and all of that. But how does that align with Savannah then putting nanny and Chloe on a plane from Atlanta to fly them into Pensacola if she needed rest?

[Interviewer/Host]

So if she's too tired to come on a podcast with you and to drive to Atlanta with you, she should also be too tired to take care of a child and get on a plane and fly to another state.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, that was my whole point. And this was discussed with Savannah about this. This project wasn't a secret. It wasn't trying to go behind anybody's back to do it, anything like that. I had offered to have Chloe with us because Savannah needed child care.

[Interviewer/Host]

But Savannah has also said that she never had help.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And that is just untrue from. From what I know and have been told from others, she had a significant amount of help with Chloe from Nanny. And I don't want to take anything away from her because I. I do genuinely feel for her as a human being. Your life abruptly changes, right? You go from being a single girl who's just living her life in Nashville and now your parents are incarcerated and you've taken over residence that you probably don't want to take over and you have. She. She's raising a child the same age as my child and also taking care of Grayson and making sure that he has everything that he needs and getting ready to enter college. Like I fully understand and know the burden that was placed on her at that time. That was my parents decision for her to do those things. But with that being said, I think that it is also very fair to say to give credit where credit is due. And you did get help. You. You didn't go on special forces and the Mask singer and fly to D.C. and have all of these meetings and do all of this stuff without any help. Where was Chloe? Where was she with Nanny?

[Interviewer/Host]

That was March of 2023.

[Kale Lowry]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Interviewer/Host]

May apply so you cease communication. Was that the last time that you talked to Todd?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I believe so.

[Interviewer/Host]

To this day?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes, to this day. Per the the core links tracking from my email, that was the last communication.

[Interviewer/Host]

March of 2023 was the last official communication with your dad?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

3:30, 2023. A woman named Emily Liebert was trying to get you to film something, is that correct? What was it that she was trying to get you to film?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They were trying to pitch a show of all of the kids. So that's where this I guess text message exchange where she's communicating again with the the same agent at William Morris that represented them through Chris Lee Knows Best reached out to the proper channel. And I think this is important because my dad had said prior to going into prison that he wanted us all to collectively work together. So when I was approached about this idea from her and a production company, I took it to my dad, I took it to Chase, I took it to Savannah, I took it to Nanny and I was told to reach out, to have the production company reach out to Lee White at William Morris.

[Interviewer/Host]

The last communication you had with your dad though was somewhere around March 13, 2023?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct.

[Interviewer/Host]

But then this takes place that I.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Had not directly communicated with him. I was communicating at that point everything through Savannah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay, so you let Savannah know Who then in turn lets your dad know. Yes. Okay, so potentially gonna film with all the kids. And this obviously all takes place after Todd says that the bridge was burned. What is Savannah and Chase's reaction to filming a project with you guys or with you?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To me, it was a leading me collectively to believe that this would be a potential of something that we could all do together and that was honoring wishes of what my dad had said to me that he wanted us all working together until he got out of prison.

[Interviewer/Host]

Is this what eventually turned into Chrisley's back to reality?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No. So in this communication Emily had forwarded me, I'm assuming either it came through email or maybe they were texting. He responds and by he from says, hi, Lindsay, Emily. Hi, Emily. Lindsay is misinformed. There is a misunderstanding. Chase and Savannah already have a project they're pursuing with another production company. Also spoke to Chase, who said that. Who said that? The below is not accurate regarding any conversation with Lindsay. The attached concept is a pass for chasing Savannah as well as the immediate family. Thank you, Hank and Lindsay, and well wishes with other projects.

[Interviewer/Host]

So they're basically saying now that they are not going to film with you and they're already working on something else.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes. So I send a group message to just me chasing Savannah and I said, the treacherous behavior is real because they.

[Interviewer/Host]

Led you to believe that you guys were all going to work on something together when in fact they never had intentions of doing so.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah, and I would have never even entertained a conversation had you know that. Had I known that, had it just been forthcoming like, hey, we're planning on doing X, Y and Z. We don't want to work with you. We're not going to honor that. And I could have said, okay, like, I'm not going to involve myself in this just for funsies. So Savannah responds back, what? And Chase says, what are you talking about? He says. Then after nobody responds, I just say the treacherous behavior is real and leave it at that. Chase says, I don't know what gossiping around is going on, but I have to reach. But I haven't reached out to you, Lindsay, to get me a post or anything other than to put me in contact with the podcast one People, y' all stop talking and running your mouths. And if you're gonna do it, keep my name out of your mouth. It's clear none of us can be cordial to each other, so it's best that we lose each other's numbers. Savannah says, okay, Chase. Also, Lindsay never said I had not spoken to you in two years. So not sure where that's coming from.

[Interviewer/Host]

That was Savannah, because her.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Her agent, who was still acting as her agent since Chris Lee Knows Best, had told Emily Liebert that there had been no. That Savannah and I had no relationship and we had not spoken in two years. Which this was also after the fact of the Chrisley crossover.

[Interviewer/Host]

So it was an inaccurate all the way around.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. So I just respond and say, hello, Happy Monday. First of all, I'm not going to engage like this. Secondly, I haven't ran my mouth to anyone that would require me to open it. Third, why would you say for us to lose each other's number and then blast off without even having a conversation? I never once said that. You haven't spoken to me in two years, gave that information to a production company that reached out, and that is just simply false. He said Savannah had no relationship with me and had not spoken to me in two years, not you. If anyone would like to calmly have a conversation, I'm willing to do so, but not like this.

[Interviewer/Host]

So is that where that conversation left? Yeah, that was it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Nothing really transpires from April to September of 2023. But then Savannah gets on the Vial files podcast on September 14, 2023, and she speaks about you. This is episode 639. And what does she say here? She doesn't say anything too much. Just check the court transcripts.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I just find it to be very odd that she would do that interview and I would be referenced in that interview, and then a statement like that to be made all with the private guys of, we're trying to operate as a family. Right. Like, but this is what's publicly going on, because follow the bouncing ball in.

[Interviewer/Host]

The text messages with Chase and Savannah. In April of The same year, 2023, Savannah essentially defends you to Chase and says, she never said that. Right. So if that was the last communication between you and Savannah, you're probably under the impression that things are. They're okay. They're not great.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

But no bad blood at that moment.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct.

[Interviewer/Host]

So it's probably a surprise to you that when she gets on that podcast and says what she says.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

Do you reach out to her after that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I had actually reached out to mine and your old PR, Alexa Garcia.

[Interviewer/Host]

From September 2023, when Savannah does that podcast, to April of 2024, again, there's a period of calm before a storm. In April of 2024, Savannah gets on her stories and she talks about why your parents did not want you attending the appeals hearing. In Georgia, after you say your piece on the Southern Tea, you basically say in that Southern Tea episode that you were not invited to the hearing. Right. Sabina gets on her Instagram stories and she talks about the. The letter to the FBI that we have. The infamous letter, if you will, which has nothing but you asking for protection for yourself. She references that. She says that you needed ratings, and so you discussed on the Southern Tea not being invited. And then she clarifies that you had involvement with the FBI and that's why you were not wanted there.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I can't exactly remember how it was brought to me. It was maybe through Nanny. Yes, I believe it was through nanny. She was told to relay the message to me that I was to not be in attendance for the appeal hearing. While that's fine, I. I don't need to go. But you don't need to be invited to go to a public hearing. Anybody can go. So much so that Savannah was campaigning for fans of the show and followers of them to come and attend and support. So I find that to be a very interesting play. But I am being told that. That I can't attend. And if I attend, then, you know, there will be repercussions for me attending. That's fine. I don't. I don't have to go at this point. They're. They're in fact, correct. The bridge was burned, so I don't have any place to be there. And in fact, I wasn't in communication with her mother. And that's who was going to be appearing at the appeal, at the appeal hearing, not my dad.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay. There's a People article that has additional context for this. And then things again, seem to go quiet for some time from April 2024 to 20June of this year, 2025, where Savannah gets on social media, on Tick Tock, and says that you put your parents in prison. And I had to clarify that this was an actual comment, not a verbal face to camera or a video. It was a typed comment where she says that you put your parents in prison.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And just for context, Savannah is responding to it. Looks like somebody else's. Tick Tock. Is that the way you're.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And she says, you are correct, Lindsay, and tags me in. It helped to put them in prison. I helped them get out. The pardon came from me, Alice Johnson, and a team of lawyers. Thank you for correcting the fraud.

[Interviewer/Host]

Did you respond to this in any way?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I didn't even know that that existed until just now. Like you're telling me for the first time for the first time I didn't even know that existed. And I also just want to go back to the ratings comment. I understand that they somewhat grew up with the word ratings. And reality tv, everything's not for ratings. Everything is not reality tv. Everything is not a storyline. I didn't need to talk about an appeal hearing on the Southern Tea. In fact, you used two of my podcast to launch yours. So it's just rich to to discuss ratings when essentially that's what you did. And in this People article, she says she spoke to People and it says Savannah told People in October of 2023 that she's good and doesn't do well with constant lies and victim mentality. Not to be ugly, but that's what you are.

[Interviewer/Host]

Well, it's projection. All of this is projection. Every last bit of it is projection. Because when you're constantly saying, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you have 12 fingers pointing right back at you. And there's a reason why you can't take accountability anywhere. Savannah left that comment on June 13, 2025. Your parents get a presidential pardon in May of 2025 of this year. So they've been out for several months. At this point, things are mostly quiet until she makes that comment that you just learned about right now. And then a month later, June 20, 2025, Fox News interview, your dad insinuates that he has no grandchildren, he can't wait to be a grandfather, or he can't wait to have grandchildren. But in a prior communication with your father, he says to you, tell my baby and favorite grandchild or grandson your his baby and his grant, his favorite grandson, xyz. So he's acknowledging on one hand privately that he has a grandson and misses him, loves him, etc. Gets on a Fox News interview and says, can't wait to be a granddad. Did you watch that in real time or did you come across it? Did someone tell you and what?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

No, I did not watch that in real time. I've found out that that was said through direct messages on social media for people who follow me or possibly don't follow me, that just wanted me to know that that was said. And that stung because I know that my child sees this stuff and to know that and I've, I've tried to tell Jackson so many times, like, you are so lucky because a lot of children never get to meet any of their grandparents and you have your dad's parents and they love you with their whole heart and would do anything for you. They drop everything for him. Whenever we need them. And for him to just see that and for that type of public erasure to like happen is just really disheartening. My child's mental health isn't up for grabs for anybody to inflict that kind of pain on him. And so if your issue is with me, then don't involve making statements that would negatively impact my child.

[Interviewer/Host]

I hope he doesn't see it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He. He's saw it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, he saw it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

He saw it.

[Interviewer/Host]

I mean, he's old enough to be online himself at this point.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct?

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

Code Southern T. The statement was said to me from my son, hey mom, your dad has two grandchildren so why would he say that? Does people not know about us? I mean that kind of public erasure is like not okay. And while I know that it has been said that he was actually referencing for Savannah to have children and he can't wait if that's the case, then. And say, you know, distinctively, I cannot wait for Savannah to give me grandchildren, for my child to have to come to me because he saw the clip on Tick Tock. I can't imagine what was going through his mind when he said to me, mom, does people not know that papa has two grandchildren? Do they not know about us?

[Interviewer/Host]

I would have lost it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I mean, it's heartbreaking. And I never want my child. It is my job when I brought him into this world, to protect him at all cost, and I shouldn't have to protect him in that way.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, you absolutely should not.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If we're nothing to. If we're nothing to my dad and we're nothing to that part of the family, that's okay. But leave us alone.

[Interviewer/Host]

Don't say anything. They don't need to go public on the record and say these things.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

The same grandchild, my son, who is not being acknowledged was the same grandchild that. I've regularly told you I view his phone, and it's not to invade privacy or anything like that, but found text messages on his phone after they went to prison of him trying to contact them and no messages going through. And he didn't know that. I saw that he was doing that. But at a later time, he asked me, hey, mom, why does papa not respond to any of my messages? Does he not have a phone? Because he doesn't understand a child at that age, and no children should have to understand. But the reality is, is that was the reality, right? And he doesn't understand what prison's like. He doesn't know that you don't have cell phones. He. He doesn't know, and he shouldn't know.

[Interviewer/Host]

And you shouldn't have half. You shouldn't have to tell him. He's literally, what, 12 years old.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To see him trying to communicate with them and text and try to talk about his basketball games that they weren't in attendance for and to send Amazon links of. Hey, Papa, look at this sports thing. It's so cool. Hey, Papa, are you getting my text?

[Interviewer/Host]

Stop.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

But you publicly erase my child, which is fine, because I don't want him to be associated.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, it's not fine. So it's not fine that they're all trying to erase you, and it's not fine that they're trying to, like, essentially erasing him? Like, it infuriates me that it was Savannah, Savannah, Savannah, Savannah, Savannah. Savannah has no help. And Savannah this and Savannah that. As if that was not. Regardless of how strange or estranged Sometimes you were from your parents, it was still your father. And at the end of the day, you struggled with your identity, where you fit in on both sides with your biological mom and then with your dad and Julie. I think that the focus has been so much on what can I say or do to hurt Lindsay. And it's never been, what is Lindsay going through? Where is Lindsay's head? Where is her heart? Where is she hurting? How about Lindsay when she's getting divorced and when she doesn't have child care? Sure, Savannah didn't have child care sometimes, or maybe she did because Nanny Faye picked up the slack. But where is your child care?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I. I don't have it. And I'm so grateful that Will and I have remained such friends through the divorce process. And I understand that that is not the typical situation for divorced people. But I think a lot of this had a play in it, right? Like, I didn't have anyone. And so Will and I were best friends for, I mean, since I would say kids, because 19 to now is like what we knew.

[Interviewer/Host]

But there obviously, with that being said, there were times where you and Will struggled for sure to get along. And so where was the support for you? Because you're going through that. And your parents were also put in prison. Like, and I'm not saying that to take away anything that Savannah has done for your parents or the. The burdens that were placed on her, like you said earlier, but it is really hurtful because instead of working together, you guys all have sort of been forced to work against each other when it should have been. This is what brings us together. Our parents going to prison should have brought you guys together in a way, because all of you had that in common. Kyle included, Grayson included.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Everybody had it in common. And I do understand that there were burdens placed on some that weren't placed on others, but it doesn't change the fact of the situation. Right. And I didn't have any support through my divorce. I navigated that alone. And that's okay. I. I chose to do that. I didn't want my parents involved. And I always had the mentality of it took two people to get in, it needs to take two people to get out of it. Like, don't involve extra people. So part of that is on me wanting to navigate that by myself and not have other people involved. But that was something very hard. An ending of a decade long marriage. Right. And raising a son on my own and trying to now run these businesses and just be human. And I feel like I've been so dehumanized that, you know, I'm just this troll of a castmate that was on Chrislino's vest that put her parents in prison and did all of these things. I didn't do that.

[Interviewer/Host]

And you're not a character. Like, you're a real person with real feelings. And I think that that needs to be said too, is like, to your point, like, it's almost like you're this villainized character, but you don't have any real feelings.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And the. The sad reality of the situation is, even after all of this, like, I do not have any hate in my heart for them. Like, I don't hate them. I just want to be left alone by them.

[Interviewer/Host]

And it doesn't end there, because two months ago, July 1, 2025, Chase does an interview and openly says that you. That you are responsible for your father's arrest. Again, why? What is. What is the purpose? What is the end game by saying that? What is that? What are. What? Why?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I think at this point, just based off of the way that, that I am watching the patterns of behavior and have watched patterns of behavior in the past, that now the pardon comes, and now it's a repair reputation tour. And.

[Interviewer/Host]

But they can both can be you. They can leave you out of it and still repair their own reputations without calling you out by name in any context.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct.

[Interviewer/Host]

Chase does the interview on July 1, 2025, with really no reason, no rhyme or reason for why he says, this July 8th, just a week later, is the last time you communicate with Nanny Faye. What was. What was that communication? And why did you stop talking to her after that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I had references way long ago. And the episode that date specifically, that was roughly around the time that I learned that I was being called Cruella. I believe it was on a podcast episode. And quite frankly, I had had my belly full from it. The stuff had gone on long enough. And I knew that that documentary was already had been produced, but didn't know when it was scheduled to air. And I knew, just based off of past behavior, that if she was launching a smear campaign and calling me out of my name, it was essentially just name calling, saying Cruella. I knew that was leading up to something, and so I contacted my nanny and told her, hey, I don't want to involve you in this. However, I feel like it would be not a good thing for me to just reach out to my dad cold. Right? You would be a better person to deliver the message, give him my phone number, and give him an opportunity to Call me. I then get a call back from her that same night and she lets me know that she has let him know and given him the information. I never received a call and that's what brought me to this point. Because how much can one person take when you've gone through all of this? And I mean, this is a binder of years of stuff that has played out in the media. That's not normal. Families like, normal families don't do like this. A lot of this stuff could have been handled privately. There needs to be a lot of self reflection from a lot of people. And this evidence just didn't exist overnight. I let Nanny know, hey, if he chooses not to call me, I'm gonna have no other option than to address it without having a conversation with him. But I was going to extend the courtesy of having a conversation with him and frankly would have told him on that conversation that I plan to address this. But it was a courtesy to say, I understand that you just got out of prison. I understand that you are, you know, transitioning your life from prison life to back home. I get that. But this documentary has happened and the things that were said on the documentary, whether you spearheaded it or you didn't, and some things you might not know, I will give you the grace on maybe not knowing the full contextual of all story lines for this, these eight episodes. Right. I could have given the grace there, but at the point that I extended an olive branch and offered to have an adult conversation with you in private and you did not call me, and I believe my grandmother when she says she relayed the message, then you made a choice.

[Interviewer/Host]

So whatever comes of this is at that point it just is what it is. It's sort of flattering to think that they, you have that much knowledge of their finances, that much pull with the FBI and the investigation that you single handedly put them in prison.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

If that's the case, you should have.

[Interviewer/Host]

Went to law school.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I should have gone to law school. I should be hired by the federal government. I should be a part of the CIA. Like there was no information could you.

[Interviewer/Host]

Have had to give to them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I have never had any of that information. And that is what's so mind blowing. All of the information was not found out through me. It was found out through a business partner that turned it, turned them in and got full immunity, which I don't agree with. I don't think that's fair if that business partner was a participant in doing anything. I do not believe in the government giving what would have been a defendant in that case. Full immunity for the crimes. For telling on somebody like tattletailing? Yeah, I don't believe that he participated in it. Participated in whatever he participated in. I'm not alleging that any of them committed any crimes. Do your research. I don't believe that he should have gotten full immunity. If he got full immunity and that's what the government gave him. They gave him full immunity for a reason, because he would have had some type of smoking gun. I'm just saying I was never a part of a state witness list. I was never a part of a government list to testify on their behalf. In fact, I testified on my parents behalf.

[Interviewer/Host]

September 16, 2025. The season finale of the Chrisley's Back to Reality airs at minute 1729, Nanny Faye is asked what her relationship is like with you and with Kyle today, as it stands today. And she says that y' all are her grandchildren and she loves y'. All. And noting that you all, you two specifically had a different way of life. She notes that we all say things in life we wish we hadn't and says, quote, my parents instilled in me to be careful what words you use because you might have to eat them one day. What does that even mean?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I'm not quite sure. I feel like my nanny's been put in a very bad position because she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. It's a situation to where I think she wants everybody to get along and we all, like have this great life and we're all this big happy family, which is not the reality of the situation. And so I feel like removing myself after knowing that this documentary had gone on. It was also disheartening to see this. And I only found this out yesterday because I specifically asked nanny if there was anything in regards to me that I should be concerned with as far as slander, defamation, whatever on this documentary. And she said she was never a part of anything in the documentary that was in regards to me. Well, right here clearly states that she was asked and she gave an answer. Now, the benefit of the doubt that I will give her is, was maybe this filmed after I ceased communication July 8. That could be possible. We don't know the filming schedule.

[Interviewer/Host]

At minute 19 and 52 seconds. Todd acknowledges that he posted some tweets that he shouldn't have. And looking back, he knows that he was the parent in the situation and should have acted differently, but he was hurt. How do you feel about that?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

This is where it started. Pulling on my heartstrings when I started seeing stuff like this because I appreciate the acknowledgment of the tweets. However, the tweets were so long ago and so much has happened since then.

[Interviewer/Host]

So he's only acknowledging what the public knows. About a minute later, less than a minute later, Todd says that he remembers sitting in the restaurant with. In Charleston, South Carolina, and receiving a call from a man that identified him himself as a law. As law enforcement. And he realizes then that you had filed a police report about the sex tape blackmail. I wrote down in my notes that this has nothing to do with the financial aspect of the federal investigation.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct.

[Interviewer/Host]

It's really frustrating that that is the story that they keep perpetuating. This is all about the sex tape. And he clearly says that. Okay, so, 2054, in this episode, Todd says no one has ever had a conversation with you about a sex tape. However, that cannot be true because just a minute earlier, he said that he realizes you filed a police report about the sex tape blackmail. So at this point, you have showed me, and you have in your possession communications about the sex tape all over the place and a. An affidavit from Robbie Hayes. So there was a conversation about a sex tape. 20 minutes and 58 seconds. Chase says he never purchased a sex tape of you, never seen a sex tape of you, and doesn't want a sex tape of you. Says that it's all a lie. Now, my notes in here, I wrote that he's essentially lying with the truth. He explicitly says that he never purchased or he's never seen, and he's. And he doesn't want to see. That does not mean he didn't try to obtain a sex tape. So to me, this is misleading. And I. I think that they're being very careful about their words. So we can't come back and say, well, you said that you never tried. Well, you did try. You just didn't get a hold of it. 21, 22. Todd says he and Chase never heard another word about it. Chase says that he could have gotten in legal trouble over this accusation. But it's not just an accusation because there are screenshots and a written affidavit. Screenshots exist. Chase. Like, I don't. Did you think that Robbie was never going to tell anyone? There are better people in the world, so Robbie might be one of them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

All right. I personally have said in my personal life to people and maybe to the four people that are here, including us, that I feel like I was failed at every place that I turned, this was a crime.

[Interviewer/Host]

But instead they used it.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

They use it to further their leverage in the federal case, to use it as character against my dad, essentially, in my opinion, to show, oh, well, if he would do this to his daughter, he would do X, Y and Z. And I, I always disagreed with the government bringing that into the case because they were two separate issues. Just because my dad had done those things, said those things, Chase was involved in those things, I don't believe that there was a place for that to be brought into federal court in a financial trial. And I always had an issue with that from day one. Treat them separately.

[Interviewer/Host]

At minute 2258, Nanny Faye is asked by producers what her reaction was when she found out that you worked with the federal government. And in any face as she doesn't want to talk about that, she wants to leave that alone. Nanny is in a really unique situation. She's in a really shitty place between a rock and a hard play. Rock and a hard place.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I don't. Because of that situation, there is context there that, That I could provide. There are conversations that I have had with Nanny. I don't think that it's important to provide that context. However, she doesn't want to talk about it because she knows too much.

[Interviewer/Host]

But she also is participating with the rest of the family, and so I could understand and empathize with her position. At minute 2317, Todd says he never got an apology from Lindsay, but has received one from ky. I wrote, has Lindsay ever received one from him? Because what you are the child. If he regrets the tweets, he obviously has some morsel of conscience. Why are you, as the child, responsible for reaching out? If he didn't do or participate in anything involving the sex tape, you would have never been involved with the federal government.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. And I think that that's where I get really hung up, because I am big, and any person that I have ever been romantically linked to say that I don't pass out free sorrys. Like, if I say sorry, it's because I genuinely mean it wholeheartedly. Like, I am sorry for what I did to you. I am not sorry for defending myself.

[Interviewer/Host]

About a minute later, Todd says that you came to see him one time and it was in the press the next week, quote, friend or foe, daughter or enemy, End quote. Text on screen flashes on this episode, quoting Lindsay on her podcast saying, which I'm assuming it's you on the Southern T, saying you had not seen your father in quite some time and has not had contact. It's misleading for Todd to say that you visited one time when it was, in fact, three times. And I'm sure you have records of that. So it's interesting to me that we're playing with fire when receipts can be pulled.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

To me, it's not even about the amount of times because I was very clear that after he had been in prison for several months, I stopped going to visit. The only thing that I've ever said on the Southern T is just positive things from the time that he went in and that he was welcome with open arms and that he's adjusting and that his hair was a little bit grayer, but I thought that he looked good and, you know, adjusting the best that he possibly can. And that's really it. I'm not quoting that directly from the episode of what was said, but that's the gist of. Of what I did say. And I. I don't understand what was wrong with that, because I also was operating under the guise of, like, we were all in this together at this point. I didn't know that we were still estranged. And maybe that was communications that were being had internally with the other family members of, you know, I don't want anything to do with Lindsay. And then I'm being told something else. I can't speak to that because I don't know.

[Interviewer/Host]

50 minutes, 28 seconds. In the closing scene, Todd is talking about plans for the future and says that he cannot wait to have beautiful grandchildren. As if Jackson does not count. We already touched on that. But I just want to say that that was spoken about on this docu series on your birthday, which feels like a shot at you. Chrisley Confessions 2.0 podcast releases.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And I want to give them a slight benefit of the doubt because we all know that the podcast releases on certain days. My birthday happened to fall on a Wednesday this year. The Southern Tea releases and their podcast releases on Wednesdays. So was it methodical? Did they hold off doing that so that it would release on my birthday? I can't speak to that. Did it feel targeted on my birthday? Yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

On this podcast, quote, Todd says, and I quote, so for all that, you know, because we were being bombarded through our publicist, you know, now this morning, wanting comments about what has come out. I'm going to give one comment, and it's going to be here on this podcast. We are not doing. We are not going to do press about what has come out. It's unfortunate. You know how I feel. You lived with me through It. I will always love Lindsay. She is my daughter. That the hurt is so deep throughout the entire family, I can forgive because she is my child. I understand that you. That you may not be able to.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I understand that you may not be able to. That Chase, Savannah, and Grayson, they might not be able to.

[Interviewer/Host]

And I can respect that. I can forgive. And I ask God every day to help me forgive that. This feels a little vague, delusional. It just doesn't feel genuine. I mean, I think to say that your dad's not hurt, I think would be a lie. But he's also misspeaking. He says that you acknowledged what your role was and that you were communicating with Joss Waits, with the Department of Revenue, and people already knew that. I don't know where that information came from outside of.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I gave him that information, which is what launched their civil lawsuit against the state of Georgia. I gave them compelling information that was shared with me through Josh Weights. I never have said I did not communicate with Josh Waits through the Department of Revenue. I have always said I reached out to him from the time that they were served when I got his contact information because I wanted to know what was going on and was it a safe environment for me to return with my son. So that, to me, is a bit misleading regarding the contents of what the conversations would have been with Josh Waits. That's making it sound like I was in a role in that situation, that I was not.

[Interviewer/Host]

He says that for all of you that are wondering, you know, where you stand with. Where he stands with you. He says that Lindsay is my daughter. She's smart, beautiful young woman, who, to my knowledge, is an exceptional mother, and I love her with all my heart and soul. But we do not have a relationship. And as I said in starting this, the hurt is so deep that I don't know that I will ever, ever that will ever change. I can only pray to God that God temper my heart and that he. Because I have to believe in that. I have that to believe in. And we know it had to do with the show and them taking her off the show and wanting to make her an ancillary cast member or whatever. I know she believes that I should have been able to have stepped in and changed that. You know, how I fought for that and how it was pushed back on me. So is he essentially saying that you did all of this as a get back for being removed from the show?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct. And the thing is, is I always and always viewed myself from somewhat of season one, which was the sizzle reel or the pilot that aired as season one. I never viewed myself as a main cast member. I was only somewhat ancillary cast the entire time. There were tons of episodes per season, and I only wanted to be on five episodes like there was. If they wanted me on more, they could have me on more. But in order for me to participate and open my life up to the public and not have another job that I needed to be able to provide for my family, then I felt that it was fair to say, okay, I will have a guarantee of five episodes. That's $50,000 a year before taxes. Like, we're not talking huge amounts of money. That was never the case. I never had communications with the network. No one ever told me anything about being ancillary cast. That was somewhat understood from the jump.

[Interviewer/Host]

Because you were married with a family.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I was married with a family, and they weren't following that whole story. If that was the case, then my husband would have needed to be participating for that to make sense. I don't understand that. But how can you say that I was going to be ancillary cast and that, you know, he should have fought for me and all of those things when all of that is just factually untrue? And if it's true that I was going to be ancillary cask people need to ask themselves the question, when they decided to do a docu series or a documentary, why was I the storyline for almost two episodes?

[Interviewer/Host]

It's a great question. I also just want to know how he came to the conclusion that this was your get back. I don't think the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Correct.

[Interviewer/Host]

So it's not like that would have made sense.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

And let's not forget, many hours ago we discussed that. It took me somewhat around two years. I don't know the exact dates, but we have the emails to even get out of my exclusive obligations to the network. So if that was actually the factual information of what he's saying, then why wouldn't the network just release me?

[Interviewer/Host]

That's also a valid point. And he just goes on to say that you guys don't really need to cross paths is the gist of it. So Todd states, quote, I remember sitting in a restaurant in Charleston, South Carolina, and getting a phone call. I walked outside because he identified himself as a police officer. Todd shared. Within three minutes, I realized that Lindsay had filed a police report saying that Chase and I were blackmailing her with a sex tape. And that is where all of this really ends, where everything stands right now. What are your thoughts and what do you see for yourself moving forward?

[Lindsay Chrisley]

I want to move on in my life in a productive way because I feel like that this has controlled my life and had such a control over my life for almost a decade. And there are a lot of things that I feel ashamed of that have played out in the public eye that should have just never been there. People are going to believe what they want to believe, regardless of what I say, what evidence has provided, and that's fine. I no longer feel like after going through all of this, that I need any more release of anything. Right? Like, this is. This is my truth. This is factual. I have factual basis to back up the things that I said on these episodes, and I feel okay with that. The chains are literally broken. And I can agree that I want no relationship there. There is no relationship there that I desire because we have gone back and forth, and there has been reconciliation after reconciliation, and we always end up at the same place. I just want it to be clear that I want to move on with my life. I don't know what that looks like. I want to live in peace with my son. I have a desire to get married. I have a desire to have another child. And this situation no longer holds control over me. And with that being said, several months ago, I was laying in my bed and my dad had gifted me a Cartier bracelet prior to him going to prison. And I had thought about taking it off for a long time. And it was never about status for me to wear it. It was about the fact that, you know, my parents had gifted me that for Christmas. I never asked for it. It was something that they gifted me. And the same thing with a Tiffany ring that you've seen me wear for years. I've had that since I graduated from high school and continued to wear it up until a couple of months ago, along with a necklace as well that came from a local jeweler in Nashville. I was laying in bed and I said, if the bracelet ever falls off, I'll just take it off. That'll be God's sign. And it was a couple of weeks after that, I woke up and the bracelet, the. The Cartier bracelet was laying in my bed. And so I left the bracelet off and put it in a drawer. And I said, when. When I'm ready, I will take the other stuff off. And then I stopped wearing the necklace. And then I took the ring off and put it in a FedEx envelope that I planned to mail back. I'd also made my dad three promises and a private conversation before he went to prison. And one of those promises was to protect Jackson at all costs. To find peace within myself and to find what makes me feel safe. And I got three permanent bracelets to represent that. And now the promise is now to myself and not between me and him. So I would like for you to help me cut them off.

[Interviewer/Host]

All of them.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

One by one.

[Interviewer/Host]

Let me know when you're ready. Okay.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Promise to Jackson. You broke it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Sorry.

[Lindsay Chrisley]

Promise to myself to find peace. I just found it. Lastly, promise to be safe. I just found safety. I feel free. And with that being said, thank you all who have supported me and Kale since 2017. Thank you for following my journey. For those of you who have stood by me, I appreciate you more than you know. For those of you who sent me nasty messages telling me to kill myself, you gave me strength that you. You don't realize. For those of you who will continue to listen, or anybody who is new to listening here, thank you. I love you guys and we'll talk to you soon.

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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[Lindsay Chrisley]

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