A (2:11)

This is my backup, a cherry Coke.

B (2:14)

Okay, we're still on the cherry kick. And then I needed to show you this. This is actually not mine might drink it, but Corey was shown these by someone and these were on. On in my fridge. And I needed to know, are you an Arizona fan? And if so, did you know about these and will you be picking them up?

A (2:33)

I am not an Arizona fan. What I am a fan of is sweet tea at franchises that are typically in the south outside of like McDonald's, which is everywhere. Southern style sweet tea from McDonald's is absolutely to top notch. My second sweet tea choice would be Zaxby's. And my third option, I'm gonna go chick fil a.

B (3:02)

Have you.

A (3:04)

First of all, I feel like Arizona teas are for like northerners.

B (3:09)

It could be. I mean that maybe that's a thing. But do you spike yours? Like when you get them, do you ever spike them?

A (3:15)

No. Typically when I get them, it's because I went through a drive through and I'm driving.

B (3:20)

No, I knew that part. I was like, didn't know these are spiked.

A (3:23)

So these are also gonna booze and chat.

B (3:26)

Yeah. So this is Arizona premium spiked beverage. Hard Cowboy cocktail. This flavor is Kiwi strawberry. Corey swears by them. They have all different kinds of flavors. I found this in my fridge. I don't know, I might take a sip of Cory's like when he opens it. But I'm not gonna open it. I just needed to ask you if you've seen.

A (3:43)

I feel like people that like flavored teas are a different kind of like, breed of people.

B (3:50)

I don't like. I lie. Let me shut the fuck up. I love Snapple peach iced tea.

A (3:55)

See, I'm not a Snapple person either. Like if I went to a vending machine. The only thing I'm getting out of a vending machine is possibly like a Powerade. If they have a Gatorade, I'm going Gatorade first. Possibly just a regular like coke Classic. Not the kind that you snort, but you know for sure I've heard the.

B (4:15)

Other kind might be a good time. I don't know, but.

A (4:20)

I've actually never heard that hurt.

B (4:24)

It can get you in a lot of trouble. But anywho, I. This is the first thing I'm drinking all day. Just so we're clear, is the doctor.

A (4:33)

It'S three o' clock in the afternoon.

B (4:35)

Yes. First thing I'm drinking all day. And I ate three Fritos scoops before coming on the recording. And that would be the first thing I ate all day. That's the kind of.

A (4:42)

I've also got to pick beef with like Frito Eaters because I think when you open a bag of Fritos, it absolutely smells like toes.

B (4:52)

I agree with you. I 100% agree with you. Like when my dog's like, paws are all up in my face, I'm like, you smell like Fritos. Like, that's how I know if they slept well. If they had like Frito feet.

A (5:01)

I've always thought that dog's paws Smell like Cheetos.

B (5:05)

Oh, for me, it's Fritos. For sure. Fritos.

A (5:08)

What causes that smell?

B (5:09)

Do you want to know?

A (5:11)

I mean, not really, but, yeah, it's bacteria. Smell like that?

B (5:19)

Yeah. I think it's, like, yeast and, like, all different kinds of, like, bacteria that's, like, on their paws.

A (5:24)

So please tell me why I'm always sniffing George's paws. Because I'm like, oh, it's so sweet.

B (5:30)

Literally. Yep, we all do it.

A (5:32)

Absolutely not. I don't know why no one ever told me that. That. That's rancid. I just got back from the orthodontist, and Jackson got his braces off. When I tell you he's so cute.

B (5:44)

He looks like he aged a solid three and a half years.

A (5:48)

Okay, well, I sent the message to Will's parents, my mom and David, and they all said the same thing. Like, he looks so much older.

B (6:00)

He does it like, I don't know. And it's also so funny because I'm looking at him and I see you so hard. But then I also see Will, and I'm like, he's like me. When you put me next to either of my parents, like, individually, I look like that one. And then when I'm together, I look like a blend.

A (6:16)

Okay. Isn't that weird about genetics, though? Like, someone please explain to me how genetics work, because I don't understand. When I birthed Jackson and I looked at him for the first time, I'm like, that's tiny Will. And then as he started getting a little bit older when he was, like, around two, I feel like he looked a little bit more like me. Then once he got school age, he started looking way more like Will. And now that his braces are off and his hair's permed, and I don't know if because his hair is permed and I have curly hair, it makes me feel like he looks more like me. But in this photo, I don't feel like he looks as much like Will there.

B (6:55)

He doesn't. He does. Yeah.

A (6:57)

I'm like, thank God. At least I did something.

B (7:00)

The perm came out great. What is Will said about it? Does he love it?

A (7:04)

Okay, well, I'll tell you about the perm situation. I talked a little bit about it on coffee combos with kale, but was not anticipating that was going to be, like, a three, four hour experience. That's number one. So anybody that's getting their kids hair permed, make sure that you have, like, a book to read or something, because I should have Taken the Idaho four book that I'm reading, I would have definitely made major headway. They stink. It's not a fun process.

B (7:31)

Smells like eggs.

A (7:32)

But Jackson had two visitors at his perm appointment outside of me. David brought him a 12 count nugget meal with a peach milkshake and came and saw what was going on. And then Will got there. So David and Will kind of like passed in the breezeway, kind of dabbed it up, and then Will left with him from the hair appointment. And I'm just like, what it? What is going on? Never did I ever think that I would agree to spend $200 getting my 12 year old's hair permed.

B (8:09)

So, like, what is the maintenance look like on this?

A (8:12)

Okay, well, number one, remember how you and I were laughing yesterday on the phone about. I was like, kristen, how long does their hair have to be to perm? Because I was getting so afraid once we got in the car. I was like, okay, there is nothing worse than getting to an appointment and someone being like, oh, we can't do that.

B (8:31)

Yep.

A (8:32)

So I had two back to back days where it's like, if we got to the appointment and he couldn't get his hair permed, that would have been tragic for my life. Also if we would have gotten to the orthodontist today and they would have been like, nope, you've got four more weeks. And these braces also would have been tragic for my life. So I've been living in fighter's light. Luckily, luckily it went off without a hitch. And I was like, kristen, how long does the hair have to be? So of course I don't have a tape measure, ruler, nothing. And I'm looking at his hair and I'm like, I mean, it's got to be long enough. And you're out here saying, oh, well, it's got to be like 3 to 4 inches. And I'm like, what's 3 to 4 inches? And it's like, oh, I've seen that actually before.

B (9:14)

We have. We definitely.

A (9:17)

Please tell me my Google search. Diabolical. Like, how do you know what an inch is? And it's like from knuckle to knuckle is roughly an inch.

B (9:26)

But what if you have small fingers like me?

A (9:28)

Kristen, your finger looks like a chode. Yes. Why is this anchor look like that?

B (9:34)

I have very tiny short fingers.

A (9:36)

Oh my God.

B (9:37)

I have sausages.

A (9:38)

Is that normal?

B (9:40)

I mean, I guess. I don't know. My toes are longer than my fingers.

A (9:46)

Oh my God. That's crazy. Have you ever seen People with, like, short fingers but long toes.

B (9:50)

I'm not holding my foot up.

A (9:54)

Wait, you have that?

B (9:56)

I have, like. I mean, like, like two of my toes. I would consider long, like, in comparison. Maybe not. No, they're not that long.

A (10:05)

Kristen, I've seen your toes and your a flat out lying right now.

B (10:08)

I have one that's long. Like, my second toe is longer than my big toe.

A (10:12)

Okay. Have you ever heard that that means that you're, like, mean or a leader?

B (10:17)

I mean, I'm both. So that's true. That's okay. You're gonna lie about or you're gonna talk about me. Make sure it's true.

A (10:29)

So I get there and the perm goes off without a hitch. But they did tell me you asked about the maintenance. They were like, it's roughly like every three months that you have to redo it. But now since it's got, like, that curl pattern thing going on, we won't have to cut the top because we kind of did like, a fade on the bottom. So that'll just be able to continue to grow and it'll be curlier the next time.

B (10:53)

So what happens if, like, the perm phase, like, is gone? What do we do then?

A (10:59)

We get it re.

B (10:59)

Permed. If it's.

A (11:01)

Oh, wait, you mean like if he grows out of it?

B (11:03)

Yeah, like, if it's no longer trending and he decides, like, oh, I'm not doing this, like, how do you get rid of it?

A (11:08)

I think he's just going to make it a trend.

B (11:10)

Okay.

A (11:11)

I think he's just going to keep it. He was like, I'm getting a perm until, like, well out of high school.

B (11:16)

Does he, like. He loves it.

A (11:18)

He loves it. And I think. I think it's because I have curly hair. And so he wanted that texture. And when the lady was asking him about it, he was like, I don't know. I just want, like, curl texture. I don't want straightaway texture.

B (11:33)

I love listening to him talk because he talks with, like, this. A similar cadence as you, but the tone in his voice is will 1000%.

A (11:48)

Can I tell you about this story that I saw when I was scrolling through people online?

B (11:54)

Please do.

A (11:55)

It says, man charge with allegedly assaulting flight attendant because he was denied use of the bathroom.

B (12:02)

Excuse me.

A (12:03)

Yes. It says, first of all, this man's 59 years old. He was arrested and charged in Australia for following. It was following a bathroom dispute. And it says that they. The Australian police had shared in a news release that the airline passenger who has not Been publicly identified, was removed from the flight on this happened on July 14th. But it's like local news to, to us currently. It says police said the man allegedly refused a crew member's instruction to take. To take his seat as the flight was preparing for departure because he wanted to use the bathroom and then push the crew member.

B (12:42)

First of all, I've like, this is what actually haunts me. And you guys had a foul play about this on coffee combos not that long ago. If you're having a bathroom emergency and the seatbelt sign is on, what is the expectation there? Like, are you just supposed to have that emergency in your seat?

A (12:58)

I've always wondered that. Or for like people who know they're about to throw up, which I know they have like the throw up bags or whatever on aircraft, but if you can get up and make it to the bathroom, would it not be more sanitary to get up and make it to the bathroom to throw up?

B (13:17)

You know, not even just that, but.

A (13:19)

Like, like I'm thinking about particles of barf going.

B (13:22)

I'm thinking about that. I'm thinking about people who are like me that if I hear someone gag and start throwing up, I'm gagging and.

A (13:30)

Throwing, start throwing up.

B (13:32)

Yeah, same. So you could really be having like a whole epidemic happening, happening in that airplane by one person starting that chain of events. So that's terrifying. But like, I'm just trying to think. I remember I was a kid, I was probably seven, and we were flying to Florida and we got turned around, like in area circling the airport because there was like a big storm cloud over it. We were above it, it was below us. So they were waiting for it to pass because there was like crazy storms going on. And they kept circling, kept circling, kept circling. And then we were about to run out of gas. So they were like, we have to go get fueled up at this other airport. Made us stay sitting the whole time. And I had to go to the bathroom so bad to the point where I was like in physical pain, like, had to go so bad. And I remember trying to get up. They yelled at me to sit back down. I was not allowed to go to the bathroom and I almost peed my pants.

A (14:18)

So it's like, what, what is worse, like going to the bathroom and possibly you have explosive diarrhea and you take off. Like, wouldn't you rather it happen in that contained area than the whole plane? I'm kind of at the place now where I'm like, okay, airports and flights like those brands, like, whether it be Delta Frontier, what's that? Southwest. It's kind of like fly at your own risk, right?

B (14:53)

You. I'm sure that when we buy a plane ticket, we sign like a lot of things away.

A (14:58)

I'm sure.

B (15:00)

So one of them should be if you are injured using the bathroom on this aircraft while in route. We don't take accountability.

A (15:09)

Well, it says that this 50 year old, 59 year old man was charged with one count of assaulting a crew member.

B (15:15)

And?

A (15:15)

And it says that it's part of a section in the criminal code and that if found guilty of that charge, that man can face up to 14 years in prison. Like, I'm sorry, but if you've got to shit or you're going to piss all over yourself and someone's telling you no, sit down, I'm sorry, I'm bypassing them too. And I might give them like, you know, like the little shrug.

B (15:38)

Yeah, I mean, what was like the. I don't know. Nobody should be assaulting anyone. But let's not have stupid rules like, what, what is it for? Is it secure? Like, is it security? Per. Like, I don't know.

A (15:50)

No, I'm just saying 14 years seems very extreme.

B (15:53)

Let's not even get into extreme sentences.

A (16:01)

Listen, I just don't like extreme sentencing. I'm like, fair sentencing makes sense to me. Extreme, like, I'm sorry, that man goes to prison because he is found guilty of this and they can sentence him to 14 years for that. Like at the maximum, it's not that serious. Like the man had to either piss.

B (16:22)

Or one of or he was gonna puke, like, whatever. It didn't need to happen in front of the class.

A (16:28)

Can you imagine, like the jail stories, like this man enters this prison and they're like, why are you here? And he's like, I had to shoot on the plane.

B (16:39)

That poor guy's gonna get beat up.

A (16:42)

I do have to tell you something that was in the news from this weekend though, also regarding flying. And I'm like, you know what, I'm just never going anywhere at this point, getting on a plane. I'm gonna get a bus.

B (16:54)

Okay.

A (16:55)

It says Delta pilot faces child sex assault charges after post flight arrest. It says a Delta pilot that was taken into custody after landing at a San Francisco International Airport was arrested on child sexual assault charges. He's 34 years old and was booked on five counts of oral copulation with a child under 10 years of age. And that was according to a statement provided to USA Today by the sheriff's office. The statement said that the arrest stem from stemmed from an ongoing investigation that began with a report of sex crimes against a child. It says that he was arrested on July 26 and is being held in lieu of $5 million bail.

B (17:41)

I'm so disturbed. Just in general, but, like, they got.

A (17:45)

Him on the aisle of the flight. I.

B (17:50)

There's no words crime. Like, crimes against people shouldn't happen in general, but kids. I just feel like that deserves. And I don't know if it does happen, but, like, do you know if the age of a victim can increase, like, the punishment associated with the crime?

A (18:11)

I don't know. I would imagine that anything that falls in the category of a minor, I don't know if it's, like, based off of age, because the assault is the assault.

B (18:23)

So here I. Very big question. With all the crimes that we know about and we talk about and all the things, do people think that they're just not going to get caught or are they not scared of prison? Like, it.

A (18:37)

No, I think that. I think that people think that they're above the law. I think that that's ultimately what it is. Like, we're talking about a Delta pilot that should be, like, a trusted person. Like, so many people are entrusting their lives in this person. And the fact that he's being charged with something like that with a child that is 10.

B (19:04)

I just. I. I don't know. I'm just. I. I feel like I grew up scared to do bad things because of my parents. Right. And then, like, they scared the out of me to, like, don't do bad things because you'll go to jail. It worked for me, like, not out here committing crimes. I. Because, like, those things scare me. For active criminals, are they scared of jail or prison? Like, do they give a shit? Because if not, then we need to, like, do something scarier.

A (19:34)

No, I think, like, in the mind of a criminal, like, if I'm putting myself in the mind of one, it's almost like they start small and do, like, small stuff. And then the more they get away with, the further they take it.

B (19:48)

Yeah. Like, it builds their, like, confidence in, oh, like, I'm not gonna get caught.

A (19:54)

But just. Could you imagine being a passenger on that flight?

B (19:57)

No, because I'd be like, what the hell is this pilot getting arrested for?

A (20:01)

Says he was taken down by Homeland Security.

B (20:03)

Is that because it was a plane?

A (20:05)

I have no idea. And it also makes me wonder if it was, like, intentional for them to. To know, like, his whereabouts and knowing that he was, like, landing that plane at that Time. Oh, because you can't tell me that like Homeland Security is just monitoring around the airport. Like they would have had to have known what flight he was on. Like it would have had to been something possibly with the FBI or like internal with Delta.

B (20:33)

I was gonna say because like I, I would, you know, I only can speak to an example with Corey. He works on at a establishment that has a dock. The dock is government property. So they had a situation that happened there and the Coast Guard mold up along with police on land and then the Coast Guard hit the dock side and the FBI. So I'm like, I wonder because Homeland security aren't. Maybe Homeland Security and the air marshal are completely different.

A (21:03)

Wait, what?

B (21:04)

Like you know how like on flights after, after 9 11. Maybe they were doing it before. I don't know, but I know it picked up after 911 that they have like an air marshal.

A (21:12)

Yeah.

B (21:13)

On flight. Like you don't know who that person is, but yeah.

A (21:17)

Because aren't they always dressed in like civilian clothing?

B (21:19)

I believe so. But I wonder is this is going to make me. Is the air marshal, Air Marshall part of Homeland Security? Yes. The Federal Air Marshal Service is part of the Transportation Security Administration tsa, which in turn is under the umbrella of the US Department of Homeland Security.

A (21:41)

So maybe, maybe the air marshal was in communication with Homeland Security on that flight.

B (21:47)

Yeah.

A (21:48)

All I can tell you is I would myself if I went to go and get off of a flight and there were like 20 agents there in an aisle trying to get the pilot out of the cockpit.

B (22:02)

I. It's a really up situation and I would not want to be a part of that at all. But I just hope that he goes to prison for a really long time.

A (22:15)

Okay, not to like completely switch subjects, but I'm going to because I went through my pantry and no one in my house has peanut allergies. Like thank God, knock on wood. But I buy those little snack packs of like the Ritz cracker. Like the bites with cheese in them.

B (22:37)

Oh yeah, yeah.

A (22:38)

They're like mini ones, not like the bigger packs. You know what I'm talking about?

B (22:42)

Yeah.

A (22:42)

Okay, so on parents.com it says rich Ritz cracker sandwiches recalled over potentially life threatening labeling mix up. And you and I have talked about this before. It says some packages labeled as cheese crackers may contain peanuts, potentially leading to health risk for all of those with allergies.

B (23:00)

I have a. So like to you, right, because you don't have the nut allergy. It's like, oh, like that sucks for me. And I hate to say this, but, like, you have to police yourself. So depending on the severity of your allergy and like, whatever the case may be, you do things at your own risk. Like, so if I know that a brand makes something with nuts in it, or peanut butter, for example. Exactly what you're talking about. You have the cheese version and you have the peanut butter version. Yep. I stopped buying them a long time ago because the likelihood of those getting up in my brain was very high. So I was like, we're not going to do this. Do I think that proper labeling needs to take place? Yes. But what sucks is when the burden is unfortunately on the person with the allergy. And, like, I've learned that it's not fun, it sucks. I mean, it. It definitely sucks having an allergy in general.

A (24:00)

Like, but this is so, so much deeper to me. Like, I understand where you're going with that as an adult, but I'm thinking for like, Jackson going into sixth grade, I would imagine they probably don't have like, class snacks and stuff, but sometimes teachers keep, like, in their cabinet, extra snacks for kids that like, forgot a snack or mom and dad might not have sent a snack, like, whatever it is, and they can go in that. That could be so dangerous. Yeah, like even imagine, because there are some people that are so allergic to peanut butter that they can't even be around another child who has consumed something, even if they haven't touched that person or whatever. So I'm thinking to myself, like PSA to everyone who buys from Ritz Cracker brand. It says that the FDA announced that it affected products. The affected products were mislabeled as cheese filled rather than peanut butter, which could lead to serious or life threatening allergic reactions for individuals with peanut allergies. Okay, well, let's say a mom went to the grocery store, dad went to the grocery store and picked this up, and the label was wrong. And on the inside of it, it was actually peanut butter. And then they send that child to school with that and the child opens it thinking it's a cheese cracker and puts it in their mouth. Can you imagine?

B (25:27)

No. It's freaking horrifying. It's. It's terrifying. I remember when I was in school, they were only allowed to give me if I needed snack. I was only allowed to have saltines. They could not give me anything else, which was crazy. Like, even at the nurse's office, that was. The only thing they would give me was saltines.

A (25:45)

I hate a saltine.

B (25:46)

Yeah, they're just. I gag to this day because of how many saltines I consumed from being at school. But, like, that was the snack that, like, I was allowed to have because that's the only, like, quote unquote, safe snack. But it's so fucked up because shit like that happens all the time. I can't tell you how many times, like, we talk about this all the time. That I've gone to a restaurant and I read the menu and I want a dessert, and I read the menu and I'm like, this dessert doesn't have nuts in it. And lo and behold, a rogue nut gets in something. It just happened to me at Duck Donuts. You know, I love duck donuts. Corey ordered a thing of donuts, physically went there, because, like, one of my biggest problems is in an establishment that has nuts. If I can't do, like, Uber Eats, I can't do doordash in those scenarios, like, Corey physically will need to go, or I need to go, and I need to literally say, like, hey, you got to talk to him. It's very. Corey went, physically talked to them. Grab the donuts, gets home, opens the box. Dead center of the box. A donut that we didn't ask for with nuts all over the top with its juice spread out across the donuts, he calls them. Just don't eat that donut.

A (26:56)

It's like, no, because now it's contaminated everything else in the box.

B (27:00)

Yep.

A (27:00)

So I just did all of that to say, if you have a kid with peanut allergies or you know, anybody who has a child with peanut allergies, definitely tell them about that recall. We are big Ritz Crackers fans in this house. Like, I use them for casseroles. We have them for snack. The cheese one specifically. We don't do the peanut butter ones. But I think that my child would be shock shitless if he opened up a cheese thing and it had peanut butter in it. Like, he's just not really a big peanut butter eater. Anyway, so. But speaking of recalls, I have to tell you what was recalled. I got it from, I guess, where I had ordered something from Amazon, and it was the Frigidaire mini refrigerator. And it's so weird that I got that because remember when I had, like, no power in my bathroom?

B (27:49)

Yes.

A (27:50)

And it shut out all the power to all the outlets and all of my bathrooms.

B (27:53)

Yep.

A (27:54)

Okay. Well, it was short. That happened shortly after I plugged in that mini fridge.

B (27:59)

I wonder if it.

A (28:01)

And I'm like, was it going to cause a fire? Like, the recall said, that electrical fire? Well, the recall said that it had been reported from other people who had those mini fridge, upwards of $700,000 worth of damage to homes, and that they were issuing refunds on the products and completely pulling them off the shelf. So if you have a Frigidaire mini refrigerator, you know somebody who has a college student who might have taken one to college, like, tell them, because that's absolutely terrifying.

B (28:33)

And that was sad because you really liked it.

A (28:36)

And I was so excited to get it.

B (28:37)

I know you talked about it for, like, three weeks.

A (28:41)

It was so stupid, too. It's just like a little pink mini refrigerator that I store all of my skincare in. And I'm like, who would think that that could be something that would cause a house fire?

B (28:51)

I might have had my mom buy that. Actually, now that I think about it.

A (28:54)

You could probably check your house.

B (28:57)

Yeah, I should. That's. I just thought about that. I'm like, why do I. Because that's the one that goes into a cooler, too, right? It's like, yep, yep, yep, yep.

A (29:07)

Did you see where there was a gunman who killed four people in New York because he was trying to get to the NFL offices and was claiming to have ct.

B (29:17)

This happened. I think it was last night or the night before.

A (29:22)

Today'S Tuesday. Yesterday.

B (29:25)

Yeah, I did see this. I didn't know any about the story, but, like, when I heard about it, it was just the active shooter situation. I didn't see anything after that.

A (29:34)

Yeah, so it says. The head of New York Police Department said that investigators plan to question a man who supplied parts for. For a gun used in the attack at a Manhattan office building that houses the NFL's headquarters. It says police have located that associate and will be questioning him about the purchase. Authorities say that this man killed four people at the Park Avenue building before killing himself. But he also had taken a wrong elevator, like he was trying to target the NFL's headquarters, but took the wrong elevator to it. And this man was known to be a casino worker in a Las Vegas casino. And he just ended up shooting several people in the skyscraper's lobby and had entered the wrong elevator bank.

B (30:28)

I saw about it. I saw about it. I saw that last night. And I want to say that I. Yeah, I stumbled across a TikTok. I was on TikTok and I stopped dead. And I was like, what the hell's going on? And it was somebody outside of the building, all the emergency personnel there. And when they said what the address was, it was on something park. And I was like, I think We've recorded there before.

A (30:53)

Yeah, sounds very, very familiar. But it said that he played high school football in California nearly two decades ago. Never in the NFL, but did have a history of mental illness. And they found a three page handwritten note that was found in his wallet claiming that he suffered from chronic traumatic. I get he suffered from CTE and accused the NFL of concealing the dangers to players brains for profit.

B (31:24)

I mean, it's a really sad situation because so many innocent people, you know, were injured. Did anybody pass away in this one? I can't remember. Okay.

A (31:33)

I was gonna say, yeah, I believe there was an off duty New York police officer that was killed. There were four people that were killed, but one of them has been identified as a New York City police officer that was off duty.

B (31:48)

I. Last night that police officer was in critical condition. So I didn't know. I was hoping he made it. That's really, really.

A (31:54)

Yeah. It said in the note he repeatedly said he was sorry and asked that his brain be studied for cte.

B (32:03)

So like for me and why didn't he just take himself out?

A (32:09)

I don't know. I mean, again, I think he was fully targeting the NFL headquarters. And it does say in this article that the NFL long denied the link between football and CTE, but acknowledged the connection in a 2016 testimony before Congress and has paid more than $1.4 billion to retired players to settle concussion related claims.

B (32:36)

I mean, CTE is, We've heard about it so many times, right? Like more and more and more. It's such a big conversation. It's an important conversation. And I, you know, we've talked about that. But to, to go to that level, like you had to be able to have decision making ability and things like that to decide what you were going to do and have a plan and go and do all those things. So it's really hard. And like to you doing that act was not gonna change what's going on with you.

A (33:09)

It's kind of like that story that we heard of that guy in New York City that killed, what was it like a CEO of a healthcare company.

B (33:19)

Yes.

A (33:21)

It's kind of like the same type of situation. Like if I do this, it will bring so much awareness to the situation. And it's like I do think that there's better ways to go about it than taking out for innocent people. And it makes me wonder, did he have specific targets in the NFL headquarters office?

B (33:45)

That's a great question. I mean, I have so many thoughts on like football and CT and stuff, but those Are my personal views. So I won't get into that.

A (33:54)

Like, is that just not the craziest thing in the world?

B (33:58)

No, it is. And I just feel like people are feeling so suppressed and so not heard these days that we keep seeing more and more acts like this.

A (34:08)

I just, I can't imagine, like, what would be going through someone's mind to try to like, plan something like that out. Go to do it. Take out four innocent people and yourself. I mean, it's very clear to me, based off of what we know thus far, that his intention was to kill people and also turn on his own self, knowing that there was a three page note in his wallet.

B (34:40)

But that's the thing. It's like everyone knows that cte, where we are right now, cannot be diagnosed until an autopsy.

A (34:47)

I wonder why. Like, they haven't figured out how to diagnose that outside of if I'm not.

B (34:56)

You can't see it in any of the scans that we have available. So they physically, I believe, have to open up your skull and like, either take your brain out or look at the brain physically.

A (35:09)

But I wonder, like, why they can't see. I mean, is it like, not a contrast issue?

B (35:14)

Like, CTE can only be definitively diagnosed after death through an autopsy of the brain. This is because the characteristic brain changes associated with cte, particularly the abnormal buildup of tau protein, can only be identified by examining brain tissue at a microscopic level. While doctors can suspect CTE in living individuals based on their history of head trauma and symptoms, a definitive diagnosis requires examining the brain tissue after death.

A (35:42)

So it says it can only be diagnosed microscopically.

B (35:45)

Yeah, so it says. Here's why a definitive diagnosis is currently impossible in living individuals. Lack of specific biomarkers. There are currently no reliable biomarkers, which are indicators in the body that can be used to definitively diagnose CTE in living individuals. Symptom overlap. CTE symptoms such as cognitive decline, mood changes, and behavioral problems can overlap with other neurological conditions like Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's, making it difficult to distinguish CTE from these conditions in living patients. And then again, the need for microscopic examination. Wow.

A (36:17)

I just feel so bad for the people that get harmed for no absolute reason.

B (36:26)

Yes, literally. Wrong place, wrong time.

A (36:31)

Speaking of death, since we talk a lot about death on here, for whatever reason, have you seen that video of the makeup mortician?

B (36:40)

No.

A (36:42)

Okay, can we play it?

B (36:44)

Yes.

A (36:45)

Because I want to get your thoughts.

B (36:46)

I'm so scared.

C (36:48)

Buried in a casket or do I want to be cremated? Hi, my Name is Elise. I am the makeup mortician where I talk about beauty outfits and respectfully educate on the funeral industry. Let's do my makeup while I talk about my personal burial wishes. So there are more burial options besides just cremation and traditional burial in a casket. There's Aquamation, there's human composting, there's green burial, and there's actually a mix between traditional burial and cremation where your body is present in a casket at the funeral followed by cremation. And for me, I would like a traditional casketed funeral followed by burial at the cemetery. I'd be fine with like an in ground burial with like a headstone. Kind of like what we think of where they put the casket in the ground. But I actually kind of want to be buried in a mausoleum. A mausoleum is an above ground structure that caskets actually go into. There are like public mausoleums where there might be, you know, a hundred spaces for caskets to go into them. Or there's private mausoleums as well. Private ones can be big, almost like a house you walk into. They're really expensive. They're like a million dollars plus. Or there's like mini mausoleums and they just go over top of a few burial plots can fit like two caskets in there. And I think that's what I'm going for. I talk about what I want the actual funeral to look like in just a minute. In case you're wondering why I'm so adamant at having my body present at the funeral, I believe so strongly in a final viewing. Of course, I've learned psychologically, like through school, why it's important. But then in my practice, I have seen in real time what a viewing can do for facilitating the great journey. Know that viewing our loved ones is one of the hardest things we will ever have to do after they've passed away. Part of the reason why that is so difficult is because we are facing the grief. We are addressing the grief, we are moving through the grief. Which, let me tell you what, right now does not feel good. You do it right the first time around, it will make your grief journey later so much easier and healthier. Just an FYI, there are options for a viewing even if you want to be cremated. If you want a video on those options for viewing with cremation, let me know in the comments. But anyways, back to my own funeral. So I would like my casketed body with a service at my church. I am a strong Christian. I want the best music. I am talking like Phil Wickham Brandon Lake. But here's the key. After the burial at the cemetery, I won a huge party. I'm talking, like, an event space. Margaritas, amazing food, and honestly, probably a live band. Of course, I do want the traditional church service. Then I really do want, like, that celebration of my life. Because, yes, there's a time to grieve, but then there's also a time to celebrate all of the many things that I did on this earth. And yes, absolutely, you can have both. It's your funeral. Oh, and as far as casket goes, more partial to the wood caskets. Like, I love cedar, I love cherry. But, like, also, I can't help but think about how aesthetic it would be to have, like, a midnight blue metal casket, velvet interior, stunning. So what details did I miss?

B (39:55)

Okay, why are you looking like that?

A (39:57)

Okay, number one, when I saw the makeup mortician for the first time, you know who I thought about?

B (40:05)

Who?

A (40:07)

I thought of the stepmom on my girl. Remember how she did, like, makeup for the funeral stuff? Okay, number one, could you imagine just doing makeup on a dead person?

B (40:22)

I. You know what? It actually wouldn't bother me. I did actually inquire about that when I was in esthetician.

A (40:28)

Wait, what you wanted to do that?

B (40:32)

I was interested. I wanted to at least learn about it. But I've had a lot of people die since I was a kid and, like, have seen a lot of dead bodies, especially ones that have been done well, but also done really bad. Like, I went to a funeral when I was probably one of the funerals. I actually went to two in one day when I was 10, viewings. Two in one night. And we went and the. It was a young person that had passed away and they had blood start coming out of their nose. So that was traumatic as, but, like, just people that just didn't look the best. And I was like, oh, like, I noticed. I've seen enough dead bodies to notice the difference between, like, ones that are done well and ones that are not. So when I went to esthetician school and was doing my makeup certification classes first, I was like, I'm intrigued. Like, what would that process look like? And it takes a lot. It is not like doing regular makeup on, like, a living individual. They need a lot of stuff.

A (41:29)

That's so crazy. But I am not. I am not for open casket situations, regardless of the situation.

B (41:39)

Okay?

A (41:40)

Like, I do not like funerals at all. I know you and I have talked about this before. It's just, like, not really the vibes that I'M going for. It's like, I'm not sure that walking into a funeral home. And funeral homes, to me, have, like, a very distinct smell. And I couldn't figure out what the distinct smell was from my papa's funeral. But Will had bought me flowers one year, and I think it's peace lilies.

B (42:07)

It is.

A (42:08)

Is that what it smells like?

B (42:09)

Yeah, it's that exact smell.

A (42:12)

So I had had those flowers in my kitchen, and I kept, like, feeling like it smelled like my papa, but I didn't realize that the smell was peace lilies. So now, like, I don't want peace lilies in anything.

B (42:27)

Yeah, you could get them without. I refused to let a single damn peace lily near my dad when he died because he had an open casket situation. He had, like, the night before for, like, multiple hours. And then we did it again the morning of. And then we did his service right there. Like, in the funeral home. We did the service because he was not. He was like a spiritual man, not religious man, if that made sense.

A (42:54)

Yeah, Dad's like that.

B (42:56)

Yeah. So we did that. But I definitely think I get what she's saying about the psychological piece of seeing to help the grief process. Because I remember I was hours away when my dad passed away. And I literally said, do, like, he needs to be there when I get home. I need to see him. Which sounds psychotic, but I was in such denial that, like, everybody else had it wrong, did not matter what was being told to me. It was just not like I consciously knew. And I can still remember the feeling where I was like, no, this is wrong. And then I saw him and, like, highly don't recommend doing that. Leave it till they're at the funeral home and look better. And then I saw him, and then it read like I was immediately snapped out of the denial.

A (43:47)

Any open casket situation that I have ever been to, nobody has looked like what they looked like prior to that. And so I think that's a little bit traumatizing. But I did talk to my therapist about this and, like, why I absolutely, like, hate funerals. Don't really love weddings. Like, it's. It's weird, obviously, like, psychologically something. And she told me, she was like, well, it's possible that it's just like, other trauma playing into that and the way I've handled other situations, it's like I can easily cut off stuff and emotions. And it's like, okay, as long as it's over there, I don't have to deal with it. And the thoughts of seeing somebody just like in a different way, laying there and looking very different than what they looked like prior to that. I feel like does not help grieving process for me, but I would be interested to know if other people think that it does help facilitate the grief journey.

B (44:53)

I would say you also have to. Like, this sounds so fucked up, but, like, I knew where I wanted my dad to be buried from because we had been to so many different viewings at so many different funeral homes that I was like, I know this one does good work. Like, I hate to say it like that, but that was something that was important to me, was that I wanted him to look like how he was, you know, when he was alive. And he did. Like, so that was super. I was super thankful for that. But if he didn't, that would have been like, very traumatizing.

A (45:27)

What's also crazy, And I wonder if this happens in other people's families too. Every person that I know that has ever had a viewing or a funeral or whatever, it has always gone through the same funeral home from where we're from. So just like entering that place, knowing it's another death gives me the creeps, like spine crawls.

B (45:52)

I remember right after my dad died, we had like, we planned my mom's funeral. So we went to the funeral home that like, we used for my dad and other family members had been through there. So we went there. It was the first time I was going for not a viewing. And it was the weirdest. You, like, go into an office and you're sitting at a conference table and you're picking out all the things and doing whatever. I highly recommend if you have the ability to do it pre planning your funeral, because that is like the worst part of everything. Like when you're literally in the thick of emotions and then you have to go decide these things, it's like, this is the last thing I want to be doing. And then speaking to that point where she said the whole big after party thing, the last thing that I wanted to do was have an after party, like for my dad. My. His mother forced us to have one, which, whatever. So we did. And when I tell you that the adrenaline that you're running off of for days, sometimes a week or more, from the time that that person passed away to the time that the funeral has ended and whatever, it was completely drained out of me. I was physically falling asleep at this after party. Like, I felt so sick. I went home and I slept for literally 13 hours.

A (47:02)

I don't really remember that much from my papa's Funeral. But I also was six months pregnant. So I don't know if I ever told you that. The day, the day that he passed away was the same day I found out that Jackson was a boy. And so I think there was just like a lot of emotions that were going on. It's almost like a block, like it happened. And I know that I was there and I know that I spoke and those things. And I remember I rode back to my parents lake house with Will's parents and we did like some type of celebration and lunch and whatever. But outside of that, I remember absolutely nothing.

B (47:41)

I mean, I think it's probably your mind's way of protecting you from like really painful memories for sure.

A (47:48)

And I remember the smell. But isn't that so weird? My first adverse childhood experience that I can remember. And I know you and I have talked about this before. I can smell what the air smelled like at that time of the year. Like every time that time of the year comes, I think about that.

B (48:07)

Yeah, like you smell it. Yeah. That makes.

A (48:10)

But I wonder if there's something to that. Like, is smell like my strongest sense?

B (48:15)

Maybe. Or it could be. I mean I definitely will get like triggered by like certain scents and stuff like that, depending on what that memory was. But it could be for you just isn't that crazy.

A (48:30)

I would love to know people who are listening to this. Like, if you think it's weird to kind of like pre plan your funeral, it's the same thing that you and I have talked about before regarding, like prenups and stuff. Very different, but similar. Like doing all of that before you make it to an engagement so you can get all that stuff out of the way ahead of time. It sounds kind of sinister to like plan someone's funeral who's living, but at the same time, is that not so much better to go ahead and do it so you know all the wishes and stuff while that person is alive and it's planned and then when something happens, you just follow the plan.

B (49:07)

It. I. I bet I literally wish. I didn't really give an option. I said, this is what we're gonna do. Because I'm not doing this again. Because I'm like, you know, I'm in a situation where I have a sibling, but the relationship is what the relationship is. So it's. It. It was on me the first time and it will be on me the second time. And I just don't. I told Corey, throw me in the ocean, let me be shark food. Like, it's not worth the money. Like, to bury someone is so expensive. I don't. I don't like six people to carry my casket, so that's fine.

A (49:45)

Like, I'm also just, like, such a strange thing, like, picking the pallbearers or whatever they're called. Like, what? Yeah, I think death in general to me is just, like, such a weird thing. And then I had this thought yesterday when I was in Pilates because I was in, like, one of these, like, Zen classes. It was like, more like yoga, so the music was just, like, very, like, peaceful and all these things. Please tell me why I was having thoughts. Oh, well, if I died and David was still living, would I know if he was dating someone, like, from death?

B (50:24)

Like, I don't know, because I just know that they say that they're always watching and whatever. And I remember I have really sick sense of humor. So there was, like, my instant response to that when someone was, like, trying to help me through the grief process was that was more painful than the dying. I was like, even in the shower, like, that was literally where I was like, they can see you. Where? Because I have a lot of dead people, so that's like.

A (50:49)

I don't know that I want someone to see me there.

B (50:52)

I was just like, no, I'm good. I don't. I'm good. It's okay. Like, I don't. I can't think of it that way. It's like, people who would tell people to, like, when you're public speaking, just think of everyone naked. No, that would actually be horrific for me. So I'm not gonna do that.

A (51:07)

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