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Maybe I'm just, like, weird. Maybe I'm crunchy. This is the Southern Tea with Lindsay Chrisley. I think it's so funny when you get Christmas cards and all of these people write their children's accomplishments on the back. I don't love them. A Southern girl and a boy mom who's trying to navigate life while staying.
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True to her roots.
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I am a functioning, non functioning human being right now. Join Lindsay each week as she swears to spill the tea, the whole tea, and nothing but the tea.
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Tea. That is the tea.
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Here's Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Southern Tea. Good morning, Kristen. How are you?
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Good morning, Lindsay. Chrisley. It has been, what, a whirlwind of a week. And it's only Tuesday.
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You know, it feels like it's Friday.
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B
It feels like it should be Friday.
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Yes, it does. The fact that I just got finished cleaning diarrhea off my wall.
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Was it yours.
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Was not. I was moving around, like, the dog crate, and I always, like, wipe up underneath it and, you know, like, up near the baseboard where, like, hair and stuff gets. I was, like, trying to clean it all off, and I just see these, like, brown, like, on the wall.
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Oh, no.
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And I'm like, what is that? Well, Oliver, like, last week, I don't know if I told you this, but I ended up having to change his food because I think there was too much protein. And the food that I was giving him.
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Oh, yep. Okay.
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And so it was upsetting, Upsetting his stomach. And so I changed his food up because he kept having accidents and it wasn't the amount of time that he was being taken out.
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Okay.
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So haven't had that issue in, like, little over a week. But now I'm questioning, like, has that diarrhea been on the wall for longer than a week? Because if that's the case, that's disgusting and disturbing.
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Oh, that's a great question. What was the last time that you moved the crate?
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Like, a week ago?
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Well, then I'm going to safely assume because of how, like, meticulous you are, that that diarrhea was there after you last cleaned it.
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I just feel like I would have seen the diarrhea splatters. Also, can we just talk about children being home from school in the summertime and how you're eaten out of house and home?
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You know, that was, like, not something that I did, but I know my mom struggled with that with my brother, and I hear all of my mom friends talk about it, and I'm just Like, I feel for you guys on a variety of levels, because the disruption, like, obviously you all love your kids, but the disruption to the schedule of them being in school and then being home for those same amount of hours is probably hell.
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Oh, it's insane. And I'm big on. We need to have, like, three square meals a day and one snack. Jackson wants to have three square meals a day and a snack every hour. So it's driving me nuts. The amount of Gatorade bottles I found all over this house, empty. Also driving me nuts.
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So we're doing absolutely phenomenally. Are we gonna make it through summer? Is the real question.
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You know, we're going to the beach next week, so I feel like that'll be a good, like, little disconnect.
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For you.
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A lot of personal stuff going on.
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Yeah.
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And it just keeps, like, piling up one thing after the next thing. It's like, once you feel like you're no longer traumatized by one thing, then it's something else. Yeah.
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Without healing from the previous trauma, it's like life really punching you in the face.
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Yes. And so when I tell you I have already ordered new packing cubes, like, ready to start my packing process, hopefully sometime tomorrow to leave the following Wednesday.
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You know what? I hope that you guys have the best time. I hope you have the best disconnect, and I hope you actually get to come back refreshed, because I feel like a lot of the trips that you've tried to take have not necessarily gone to plan, but I'm really putting good juju out there that this one does.
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Well, a lot of trips that I've tried to take have involved inviting significant others at the time.
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Yeah.
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And then, you know, shortly after trips. And I'm a big believer of this. Like, remember that one article that we saw? I can't remember when it was, but, like, take the trip with your boyfriend or girlfriend sooner rather than later. Like, do it really early on in the relationship, because you're going to be able to see things about each other that you wouldn't see otherwise.
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Yes. And I remember being like, well, I don't. I don't feel like I had really understood it because Cory and I didn't go anywhere for a very long time. Like, we'd already lived together, been married for multiple years, all the things. But when I look at it through your experiences, I would say, that is so accurate.
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It's so accurate. And it's just like, oh, we went on that trip.
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Come home.
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Actually, never speak to me again.
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Honestly, I Don't even know if the coming home always happened before. You said, don't ever speak to me again.
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I'm quick about that. I'm like, there is absolutely zero reason to ever have another conversation. We have nothing in common anymore because we are not in common anymore.
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You know what? I love it.
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Also, outside of that, Jackson is with his grandparents for the week, and I had had these great plans that I was going to organize his bookshelf to try to, like, start getting stuff refreshed for when we go back to school. And I just had, like, a couple of many different projects that I had in my to do list of things to do. Yeah. And it appears as if actually none of those are gonna happen. Yeah.
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It appears as if your schedule, for a variety of reasons, went to complete.
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Yeah. You know, and when people think that I'm just, like, sitting at home twiddling my thumbs. Yeah. That's just not the case.
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No, it's. It's. It's. I. I can't. I know how I feel without kids. Right. So if I have plans to do something in my house over a weekend and something disrupts the plans, whether it's the weather, if I'm doing something outside and I can't get something done that I really needed to get done, or it could just be a really off day for me and I don't feel good, I get very, very, very stressed out, very pissed off, very upset. It ultimately all ends with me crying hysterically and contemplating life.
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Oh, my God. Well, when I tell you the amount of rain that we've had over the last couple of weeks, like, four weeks straight, it did not rain yet. Maybe it drizzled yesterday, but not, like a full rain. Today has been the first day that I can remember since sometime, like, early May that we have not had rain. And the amount of projects that I need to get done outside and the way that my yard was torn to hell, trying to get that hot tub to my lower deck when I went outside and saw my sod. You would have loved to be a fly on the wall.
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Listen, the expensive sod is crazy. I know, because I just went through it the way that I am so, like, anal about my sod. It's not even funny. Like, it's. It's not even funny. I have almost yelled at neighbors, children to get off my grass. I literally just went through a whole, like, course of teaching Corey about mowing, like, in different directions. And because, like, my dad was all about his grass. So I learned about it from a very Very young age, so I'm, like, somewhat of a pro.
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And I'm.
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Corey did the first cut, and I was not impressed.
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Okay. I need to know if you are more of a fan of, like, a really low blade, like, grass cutting situation or if you like yours a little bit taller. I like mine to look like a golf course, like, very low, very tight.
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So for me, my dad always cut the grass on the highest setting because it's, like, supposedly better for the grass, and he always had beautiful, lush grass. Do I like walking in that kind of grass? No. Do I like visually looking at it? Yes, I do. If I'm walking in it, I prefer lower.
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I just think it looks so much cleaner whenever it's low. And also, I am deathly afraid of a snake. And I feel like with a high setting on a lawnmower and cutting grass to that length, I feel like that's just a breeding ground for a snake.
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I think that you have to worry about that. I don't. I don't want to say I don't have snakes here, obviously, but, like, I don't really think the snakes are coming out in the suburbs at me, you know?
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Wait, y' all don't just have, like, loose leaf snakes around?
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What the fuck is a loose leaf snake?
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Well, you know, you'll just like, see a random one. Like, we've, like I said we've had a lot of rain, and so you'll see them mostly around that time. Or if it's just, like, extremely hot. I don't know if they're trying to get to shade or they're trying to get out of the water. I don't know what it is, but when I went out of my driveway the other day, Jackson was in the car with me, and there was a snake that was as wide as, like, at the width of my driveway. The snake was that long.
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No, I don't have that. I. You know what? If I do, I don't know about it, and I'm gonna keep it that way. But luckily I. I have, knock on wood, not seen any snakes near my house.
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Okay, well. And my dad always told me if there's a big one, there's smaller ones somewhere. Or if there's a small one, there's a mom or dad somewhere close. So I'm like, no, I cannot do this. And remember when I started getting, like, the pest control situation and they put those little sticky pad things out in garages and stuff in the summer months, I will get, like, little tiny stickers, snakes, like, trapped on Those sticky pads.
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I think that Georgia is probably a place that I won't live. They had them in South Carolina, now that I think about that. When I was at school there, they definitely had snakes because they were crawling all over the place. Actually, one of the people in my apartment building there was, like, apartments, but on campus. Woke up the entire three stories of us screaming. It was a guy, and he was screaming because he woke up and the snake was in his bed.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I would have just been taken out. There would have been obituary.
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I was like, what is going on? And then people kept getting bit because they would, like, reach down for, like, they would drop their keys on the ground at night or something, and they would reach down without looking. So there was, like, a whole PSA that went out.
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Oh, yeah. No, see, that. That is absolutely a no for me. If I saw a snake or any type of, like, rodent in my house, the way I would get a hotel.
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I just don't know what you would do. Like, what would you do? You wake up from a slumber, middle of the night, and you have a visitor in your bed.
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Yeah, that happened to me last night. Like, what kind of visitor?
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A silly little snake. A what? A silly little snake.
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Oh, yeah.
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A silly little snake. All right. Oh, boy. Yeah, oh, boy.
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Woke up straight from a, you know, just great slumber and was like, oh, hey, how. How are you? Completely unrelated news. Have you been following the new updates on Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively?
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Yes, ma'. Am.
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Okay, so I am going to say I am not a huge fan of Candace Owens. With that being said, I do like the way that she covers stories, and I think she does a very good job of doing her research and giving perspective on the situation.
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This is why I sent everybody her way. I said, go. Listen.
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So I was following all along until I come across, like, this breaking news situation from where. What was it last week or the week before, where the judge had dismissed the $40 million defamation claim?
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I think it was last week.
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Yeah. So it was a $40 million defamation claim that was against Blake, I guess, and the sexual harassment.
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Yes.
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Is that right?
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Yeah. So this was. So Blake sued Justin. The countersuit from Justin to Blake was about the. The defamation. Yes.
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Yes. And so that was dismissed. But the video that Candace Owens put out said while that there were claims of that suit that were dismissed, that that was not the end of this situation, that there would just be other things filed.
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Yeah. So Justin's team came out somewhere and said that the. They were Basically allowed to. I'm gonna go by my understanding, not the legal term, just readjust the claims that they were making.
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Yeah. So that's. That's what I had gathered. And it said that there was a statement that was made to the Daily Mail that Justin, his attorney, called Blake's accusations, including that Justin fat, shamed her, overshared about his sex life, entered the trailer with her while she was breastfeeding, completely false, and said, with the facts on our side, we marched forward with the same confidence that we had when Ms. Lively and her cohorts initiated this battle.
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I'm. This is nowhere near done yet because they still have an actual trial date.
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They still have a trial date. But I think that people misconstrued the fact that that lawsuit was thrown out by the judge. I think people are assuming that it's somewhat over. And I cannot help but think that Blake's side is trying to use this as, like, a PR move to, like, bury everything else.
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No, I agree. I definitely agree something. Being dismissed does not mean someone lost or won.
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Do you still believe that Blake and Ryan Reynolds are skeezes and Justin Baldoni didn't do anything wrong?
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Yes, I do.
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I feel like he was an easy target for them.
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Before I hear how, oh, I must not be a girl's girl, and blah, blah, blah, blah. I have seen enough information for me to feel confident taking Justin Baldani's side.
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Did you also see where allegedly and Yahoo. Reported this? Allegedly Taylor Swift was done with the friendship due to the fact of the mentions of the dragon in the text messages.
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I did see this. There was also. Remember, we were talking about this on. I think it might have been coffee combos a couple weeks ago. And there was the thing that was going on with her dad getting involved in something because she was potential. She was going to be subpoenaed or was subpoenaed by Justin's team, allegedly his legal counsel, to have to speak about this. And then there was allegedly something that Blake had said. Her or her team allegedly had said that she would release all the text messages between her and Taylor Swift for the last however many years they've been friends. And then magically, they didn't need Taylor Swift anymore. People said that her dad got involved and whatever. Whatever. It is interesting that they haven't been spotted publicly.
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I will say that there's that. But then someone spoke to Page Six, and in a quote, it says, Taylor berries hatchets, but keeps maps of where she puts them. And then was talking about her 2017 song End Game. And then in another quote, it says she will forever be furious at how Blake quite clearly was using her for clout and leverage in her dealings with Justin. She really hates that Blake would even think like that, let alone write the things that she did in a text.
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For me personally, anybody from the outside can see that Taylor Swift not only has a lot of fame, fortune, but, like, with that comes a lot of power. Right. Why the fuck you would ever think that it was a good idea, especially being on her, like, inner circle and probably being privy to a lot of information that the rest of us are not and never will be or should be. Knowing that someone has, like, that much pull, why would you ever, ever include their name in some shit like this?
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That's my thing. And part of it is I think that there may. That was kind of mentioned before a possible lawsuit was ever really thought up of, because you have to consider people put in writing all the time on text messages and then forget that they sent something. A lawsuit comes about, you're subpoenaed for records, um, oftentimes in those types of situation, spoliation of evidence. So you're slapped with that. That you can be charged with some type of crime if you do away with any type of evidence.
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Yeah.
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So wasn't it Justin who released the text between he and Blake that referenced the dragon?
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I believe so, yeah.
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This article from Yahoo. Entertainment says that Taylor and Blake are no longer on speaking terms and things may stay that way, at least for a while. The source notes the damage done to their friendship is lasting.
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I would agree.
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But just could you imagine? We've always said if our texts were ever leaked. Could you imagine?
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No, like, the amount of. And I. And I have it locked down pretty, pretty well, but, like, with. If my phones ever got stolen and someone was able to physically hack into them would not be great.
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Kristin, the amount of evidence that, like, you have in those devices. Remember Kale and I being like, why would you have that? Yeah.
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That was when you guys were asking me something on an episode, like, late fall, and I was like, oh, brb, let me pull it right up.
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And, you know, from, like, two years prior.
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Yeah. You both were panicked as hell.
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I was like, that's absolutely not normal, the way that you pulled it out so fast.
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My is categorized. Okay.
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I was like, she did not even have to go that far back.
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The amount of times that anybody has asked me, like, hey, where's that? Where's this? Actually, for whatever reason or something legal or whatever, like, I have that at the ready.
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And completely unrelated news to this. Alessandra and I were talking last week about the case with Travis Decker.
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Yes.
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And his three daughters. So. So as of yesterday, it said there was a federal helicopter that was searching the area that they believe he's in. This search has been going on for two weeks.
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I mean, listen, when we talked about it, we definitely said they had. He. It's been said that he has the ability to remain in the wilderness with his skills for weeks, if not months.
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Yeah. So it says that. I can't believe that so much time has passed since the bodies were found. It's almost been three weeks, like, since then. And it says that the search kind of had slowed somewhat, and now it's picked back up. U.S. marshal's office is involved, and they've been taking the lead in the search operations. And then last week, the US Forest Service reopened multiple of the trails in and around the area of where they believed he was. And I believe they've been asking hikers just, I'm sure, for additional eyes if they've seen anything. And I just can't believe that someone could go off the grid with as many people that would be looking for him in that isolated area and not be seen.
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He's definitely using his skills, definitely using them. And it's actually crazy because when you think about it, there's so many people that have those same skills that could do something like this.
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It did say that law enforcement that's involved are saying that they hope that he's watching and seeing what's going on and that he'll slip up and that he. That Travis himself was going to be the one that would determine how things were going to end, and that they had tried to encourage him time and time again to just give himself up peacefully and just nothing.
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I mean, I just wonder how long it's going to go on, or is he actually going to be able to just straight up disappear forever?
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I don't know. But I wonder if he's even in that area anymore or if he's made it, like, across the border? Oh, yeah. You know?
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Yeah. Didn't really.
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Because if that's the case, then they're not gonna find him.
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Because I'm just wondering, are people, like, still catching him on their ring cameras and stuff?
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I don't think there's been anything, because I believe in the way that they're searching for him, they would be releasing some of that stuff to use it somewhat as a scare tactic to get him to just surrender himself.
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Yeah.
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But I don't Think that there's been anything. And I just feel so bad for this mother number one. I couldn't imagine or would not want to imagine what that would feel like, but to just know that he's on the loose and the thoughts I would be thinking, like, what if he shows up to do something to me next?
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That's what I was gonna ask you. Do we think that? I mean, this is crazy, and I don't want to put any bad juju out there, but, like, you can't necessarily run forever unless you physically get out of the country. But then sometimes people still get found that way, too. So do we think that he has, like, unfinished business?
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That's what would scare me and keep me awake at night. I would ask to be in witness protection program.
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I was gonna say, like, do we think that she's being protected at least?
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I certainly hope so. I just pray for them. I've been praying for them every single day just for him to be found. I also fear. And you and I have had this conversation before, like, what if they find him and he's a danger to himself at that point? And then also law enforcement, to me, if he was shot, like, that's not justice.
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Yeah.
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You know.
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Yeah, no, but. And unfortunately, that's kind of where my head is at, that if he gets caught, that's. It's gonna be like. They call that something. You know what I mean? So I just don't think that's gonna be good. Talking about prayers. You and I have been having a lot of interesting religious conversation lately. I know.
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Would you like to inform the class?
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B
I feel like it's been me starting it every time.
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A
It's like you start at night in the mood. I'm trying to watch Bad Monkey. Oh, wait, I forget what the name of the documentary was that I was watching. When you started the last section of that you started. I was watching this documentary on. It was a bunch of, like, older women, and they had met this man through Words with Friends.
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B
You were telling me about this. Okay, go on.
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Yes. And I guess the chat feature on Words with Friends allow, like, them to exchange phone numbers and stuff, and then they can video call from each other's phones, like, all these things. Right. So apparently he bamboozled all of these women. He was using somebody else's photos from, like, an Instagram account, set up multiple different Facebooks with different names, was sending them these photos, Photoshopped some of these photos to fit narrative of what he was telling them that he did. Like, he was like, oh, I Work on a boat. So then one of these women shows one of her friends, like, this photo of this man, and she starts examining it, and she's like, okay, the head on this photo does not match the body on this photo. So that's how it kind of started kind of becoming uncovered. This man was able to bamboozle these women out of millions of dollars over starting chats with them on Words with Friends. And I'm like, I don't know you. And I have had conversations that I might be a victim of, like, elderly abuse when it comes to people trying to, like, steal my identity and stuff, because I very much get bamboozled into scams. Yes, you would.
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B
You would be scammed.
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But I don't think I would ever go on Words with Friends and start a chat with someone who's not my friend and then think that I was in a relationship with someone that I had never seen transfer money to this person electronically. Millions of dollars.
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B
Yeah.
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Like, I have never seen you, kissed you or slept with you.
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B
Yeah. You're like, you're not getting millions unless I at least sleep with you.
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Right. But in the meantime of me trying to, like, gather all the facts and just like me being in a state of being dumbfounded watching this, you are sending me messages about Noah's Ark.
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Listen to me. This is your fault. This started with the 40 days and 40 nights rain thing and it getting linked back to Noah's Ark, right? So I'm, like, telling my mom and I'm telling her friend Lauren, and I'm like, yeah. And Lauren makes a comment about, like, the two by two thing, and I was like, all right, like, what kinds of animals? Like, did they bring all the animals? I got very, like, very sidetracked. So I was like, did they bring all the animals? So I start Googling it, right? And they're. They're saying that there's, like, all these animals, Right. Only land ones. Which then we then clarified it had to be land animals, could not be water animals. And I'm, like, looking. But then in the Bible, in at least the version, because I know there's different versions. In the version that I, like, looked up, it only specified two specific animals. And the rest were, like, left to the imagination. Yeah.
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And I do feel like in children's Bible storybooks, I'm gonna go on Paul Jackson's after we get off recording. But in the, like, kids versions of the books, I feel like it's giraffes and, like, all different kinds of animals.
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I thought so, too. I'm out here, like, the polar bears. Like, what. What all did we bring?
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I don't believe that the polar bears were involved because that's like Antarctica.
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Yeah, but how are they still here?
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I don't know if you, like, if.
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You go with that. So I'm over here and I'm now. I'm invested.
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Right.
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B
So I'm now hearing three different opinions, like, two other opinions, and I'm like, I gotta call the resident expert in immediately, which would be you. So I started voice noting you, and we were having, like, a real theology discussion.
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Yeah. And it was way too late for that. And I was not signed up to give Bible lessons during that time of that night. I was watching a Bamboozle and thinking to myself, could this be me in 30 years?
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B
I mean, I just think that it's been great getting to have all these theological discussions with you because it went from. If I'm not mistaken, it went from Noah's Ark to Adam and Eve.
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Yeah. And the serpent.
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And the serpent. Not actually maybe being a serpent. And then you have my theory where it's representative of a man and, like, how men. Not contaminate, but, like.
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But contaminate.
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B
I was having a great time. You were not necessarily with my. But you definitely saw some of my points.
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A
Yeah, I necessarily was not with the. Also you saying that it was an apple. I said, never one time in the Bible does it reference an apple. It's fruit or fruits. And it's referenced in Genesis. So. So while you're on your little theology, you know, journey, Journey, if we will go read Genesis.
- [29:29]
B
The fact that you knew it was Genesis. You know what's actually crazier is, like, I went to. Before I moved to Pennsylvania, I went to a private school, and it was a Baptist private, like, private school. So it was all, like, related to that faith and, like, the Bible and all the things. So I. When I would go to summer camp, I said to my mom, all I remember from summer. Summer camp is Veggie Tales. And also learning a song to make me remember the names of the chapters or books in the Bible. So I started singing it, and I was like, wait, but if this happened here. So then I got really invested, and I was like, wait, the. The Noah's Ark and Adam and Eve all happened in Genesis. Like, there was a lot of shit going down in that chapter.
- [30:18]
A
The book.
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B
Book. There was a lot of shit going down in that book.
- [30:22]
A
The books of the Bible.
- [30:23]
B
Well, then I got really confused because I thought that the books of the Bible had something to do with being, like, written by the disciples. So I was like, why is there more than 12? Like, it just really all. It got me fucked up. But you were over my shit at that point. I couldn't ask any more questions. I had exhausted all my options that day.
- [30:39]
A
Yeah, you did. I was like, I swear, I'm gonna throw this phone out my window.
- [30:45]
B
I mean, you were entertaining me for a little bit. So that was fine.
- [30:48]
A
I was okay. I saw this news story come up. Have you ever heard of a Safe Haven baby box?
- [30:56]
B
Yes, I have. A couple years ago was when I learned about them first.
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A
Okay. So this article was talking about a baby being safely surrendered in a Safe Haven baby box in a Mississippi hospital. I don't know why that I had convinced myself at some point that that was just, like, a myth. Like, I had convinced myself that those boxes actually didn't exist and it didn't really make sense to me. And then I also convinced myself that people dropping their children off the fire department, that that wasn't real either.
- [31:28]
B
Oh, wow.
- [31:29]
A
Yeah. I did not know that that was a thing. So this happened in Mississippi, and it says that it's the second baby box surrender in that state. It said that this is creating an anonymous way for mothers in crisis to safely surrender their infants. And it says across the entire state, there are five Safe Haven Baby Box locations, but there are over 340 locations nationwide. And I don't feel like that's a lot.
- [32:01]
B
There is. It's not a lot. It's not a lot, but they're fantastic for people who know about them. I just think there needs to be so much more awareness around them.
- [32:09]
A
Yes. It says so when a mother chooses to surrender her infant within a Safe Haven baby box, the door locks upon closing the box, and then an alarm alerts personnel for the location that the baby has been surrendered. It says the baby will be retrieved within five minutes and taken to a hospital for medical evaluation and then will be with an adoptive family soon after.
- [32:31]
B
Yeah, I learned about this a couple years ago on a podcast that doesn't exist anymore, but I. I wish so many more people knew about it.
- [32:42]
A
It says when communities are prepared for anonymous surrender, we can radically change the outcome. We can avoid deadly abandonments for the infant and life of and life of prison for the mother. This mother was selfless. We know that these are not light decisions, and this infant will soon be adopted by a family praying for a child. Safe surrender truly makes light out of every. Every situation. This article also talks about a woman in here said that she just learned about these boxes as an adult and she had been abandoned as an infant. It says that 59 infants have been surrendered at Safe Haven baby boxes since 2017. That also doesn't seem like a big number. And is it because there's not a lot of them?
- [33:31]
B
I. I mean, I would think yes. And I think also that. And a lot of people probably don't know about that option.
- [33:38]
A
I mean, when you're talking about the entire state of Mississippi, if we're just like narrowing it down to Mississippi, specifically 5 safe haven baby box locations, that does not seem like a lot to me. And if you're talking about possibly mothers who feel like they don't have a choice so they're using the Safe Haven baby box to surrender their child so that they are safe. If there's only five locations of those, what about mothers who are in poverty, who might not have gas money or any type of resources to be able to get to one?
- [34:12]
B
I wish that they were readily available everywhere. I think that it would give a lot of kids at least a semi fighting chance. You know, I know that everyone has feelings on just this foster care system and all the things like that, but what is the alternative? Because then I see things where people are literally wrapping their babies up and throwing them in a garbage can.
- [34:35]
A
I know. Absolutely diabolical and so sad. It says that Safe Haven Baby Boxes uses a national hotline, which I also didn't know about that. It says the number is 1 866-99-Baby1. And it's to aid mothers in crisis with free confidential counseling on each state's Safe Haven laws. So I'm also assuming that every state has different laws surrounding Safe Haven.
- [35:03]
B
I would. I would assume so. Kind of like everything else.
- [35:05]
A
States vary, but don't you think that that should be kind of like federal and just across the board the same?
- [35:12]
B
I think it would be universal. I would. I would hope that at some point it becomes universal.
- [35:17]
A
Same.
- [35:17]
B
In a good way. Let me not just leave that blank. I hope it's universal in a beneficial way.
- [35:23]
A
Same. Have you ever followed anything about Brenda Song?
- [35:30]
B
I like. I think I stopped paying attention to.
- [35:34]
A
Her when I was the sweet life of Zach and Cody.
- [35:36]
B
Yes, ma'. Am.
- [35:37]
A
Yep, same. So also on Yahoo. Entertainment, I saw an article that says Trace Cyrus accuses ex Brenda Song of faking terminal brain tumor, abortion, multiple pregnant pregnancies during volatile romance.
- [35:54]
B
Trace Cyrus, as in Miley's brother?
- [35:56]
A
Yes.
- [35:57]
B
Oh, wow.
- [36:00]
A
I didn't know that they had ever dated. And to be quite honest, Looking at their picture. Do you ever look at some couples and you're like, I would never put them together?
- [36:10]
B
Yeah, all the time. I'm like, this would be one of them. I'm seeing it now. This would be one of them.
- [36:16]
A
You see it?
- [36:17]
B
Yes, ma'. Am.
- [36:18]
A
So it says that the musician made this serious out these serious allegations against the actress on Instagram after a fan insulted him, saying, ah, now we know why Brenda left. Good riddance. He responds with, yes, because she stole thousands of dollars from me and baked multiple, multiple pregnancies.
- [36:37]
B
Oh, I can see all this. Lied about being terminally ill to make my family, and I think she had breast cancer and a brain tumor. It was all lie. She was humiliated to ever show her face around my family again. Once we figured it out and my mom confronted her and called her out on all of it. Thanks for reminding me of another scenario where I was a great, loving person and somehow and someone did me wrong for no reason. Oh, and she also faked an abortion with fake blood covering the bathroom floor, and my mom and I rushed her to the OB gyn. That's when all the lies started unraveling and we realized it was fake. What in the hell?
- [37:07]
A
Like, remember that one, Scamanda?
- [37:11]
B
Yes.
- [37:12]
A
It's giving Scamanda.
- [37:14]
B
I'm just like, what is she up to now? Like, what? I feel like I saw her in a Lifetime movie. Like I say, not that long ago, but I don't know when the movie actually came out.
- [37:23]
A
I don't know. But then there's this other screenshot that says the funniest part, though, is when she showed up after getting the brain tumor removed from her breast surgeon in Chicago. She claimed she didn't realize we were catching on to her lies. So when she showed up to my house with a bandage on her head, claiming she had just got out of surgery, I ripped it off, exposing no surgery had been done.
- [37:44]
B
This is a lot to unpack. I need to see where she's been. Let me. Let me do a quick little Google. Oh, what the. Okay. Macaulay Culkin and Brenda Song are engaged and also have two children together.
- [38:01]
A
Wait, they are?
- [38:02]
B
Evidently. According to Parade magazine, five days ago. He'll never be home alone again. Macaulay Culkin and Brenda Song are engaged and parents of two.
- [38:11]
A
Oh, this does say in 2018, she got with Macaulay Culkin.
- [38:17]
B
Yeah, it says. A little. More than a year after the couple revealed they were engaged, the happy News broke in March 2023 that Macaulay Culkin and Brenda Song had welcomed a new baby boy in November of 2022, which is her second child.
- [38:32]
A
But, like, I'm also just concerned the fact that he's saying this stuff and then she hasn't gone out and said anything.
- [38:41]
B
For me, it's one of two things. Okay. Because I know that a lot of people, when you don't speak on something. Well, yeah. They immediately think that you, like, it must be bad. It must be guilt. It must be all these things in. In general, like, oh, they don't have a defense. That's why they're not saying anything. You get to a certain point in your life. I know I do. Where, like, I know who I am. The people who mean something to me know who I am. So at the point where anybody outside of that bubble wants to accuse me specifically of anything, I don't even want to give it the energy or time of day to actually defend myself, because who the fuck am I defending myself to? You already made up your mind, so why am I defending myself? You have it on a grander scheme because you have, like, the public involved and stuff. But the assumption is you either have no defense or you. You're like. You're either guilty of whatever. Whatever was said about you, or you're too scared to speak.
- [39:32]
A
And I don't think that it's necessarily either of those things. When people choose not to speak about something, I think that people are allowed.
- [39:39]
B
To grow and should.
- [39:40]
A
You would hope that they're growing. Right. And everything that you respond to at one point in your life, you could be so far past that at another point, and I think that's okay. And back to your point, anything that anybody has predetermined in their mind of what their thoughts are on you, anything that you say, they're gonna rebuttal that whether you come straight with the facts or not.
- [40:05]
B
100. And then they'll twist things to make it fit the narrative that they already have. So it's. I don't want to say pointless, because there's definitely things that I'm like, oh. Like, probably deserve something said about them. But, like, when it comes to defending yourself, my biggest piece of advice to anybody is, like, look around the room and look who you're trying to defend yourself to.
- [40:26]
A
Mm.
- [40:26]
B
Because sometimes it's truly not even worth your breath.
- [40:29]
A
But I just feel like these are, like, wild accusations. Like faking a brain tumor and abortions and pregnancies. Like, that's wild.
- [40:40]
B
Well, it's like. It's wild. One of two things. Wild that it actually Potentially happened. We don't know. And also wild that if it didn't happen, somebody's imagination can make that type of upper.
- [40:51]
A
Yeah. Is that not terrifying?
- [40:53]
B
It is. Anybody can make up anything and there are people who will believe it and listen to it.
- [40:58]
A
No, but some people that say shit like this, they have convinced themselves. I am convinced that they convince themselves that that is true.
- [41:07]
B
I am literally related to someone who lives a life like that, who then married someone who also lived a life like that. They couldn't even get their story straight about how they met. And each one swore up and down that they were completely correct.
- [41:22]
A
But how do you get into that state of delusion? Is that pathological lying?
- [41:28]
B
I think yes. Living in an alternate reality because they gen a lot of people genuinely believe that what they're saying to be true.
- [41:36]
A
Yeah, but I mean, in a normal person's mind, I feel like, you know, whenever you're saying something that is not true.
- [41:44]
B
Yes.
- [41:45]
A
So are you saying that it's like past that point and it's a mental illness?
- [41:50]
B
Yeah. And like, I know people get very frustrated when we throw that term around like mental illness, but it's definitely something not working out right in the brain if you're genuinely believing lies that you are actively crafting and telling.
- [42:07]
A
Yes. It's almost like some people tell themselves something so many times that they now can't decipher between the fact that they made it up and the truth 1000%. I've seen that happen in lots of different situations and I'm just like, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole at this point.
- [42:27]
B
Nope.
- [42:28]
A
Okay. So I saw this one video and I wanted to get your thoughts on it being married. So it says people are really venmoing their spouses. They're asking their spouses to pay them back. They went to Chipotle and I paid tonight. And now it's time for you to venmo me what you owe me for a Chipotle bowl. I've been married for 18 years. So if all of the major things that come up of all of the major things that come up in marriage, if my husband tried to come at me asking me for 18 for a Chipotle, I'm going to ask myself what is actually internally happening. It ignites a fire inside of me because it's so dumb.
- [43:04]
B
Okay. So my first question that I think about off the bat is how do they split their finances?
- [43:10]
A
Yep. That was mine too.
- [43:12]
B
How do you split your finances? Right. Do I think myself? This is something That I don't want to say should be. It's not for me to judge. Right. Do I think this would never. This would never happen for me because Cori and I share finances completely. For people that I see that have. Do the whole. Like, we put. We have our own accounts, and we put set amount of money into a joint account for things to be paid out of. I would think that you would also be putting in money for food so that you don't have a situation like this. This seems really weird and uncomfortable to me also. Just, like, extra transactions. You don't have to be doing, like, pull it out of one account instead of there's now two transactions happening. One for someone paying and the second for someone reimbursing. It's a little weird, but, you know.
- [43:58]
A
Situations in the past. Not the most current situation, but other situations that I've been in in the past.
- [44:04]
B
Yes.
- [44:05]
A
I've paid for mostly everything.
- [44:08]
B
Yeah.
- [44:09]
A
Never once have I ever Venmo requested someone for something that I chose to do. Because part of me is like, okay, at the point that I made that choice, I've gotta. It's my burden at that point.
- [44:21]
B
Right. Right. I don't. I'm very intrigued. I would like to know how they do their finances and if anybody else operates that way. Because, again, not passing judgment for me, that's not how I do my finances. To me, it's foreign, but, like, maybe for somebody else, it's normal.
- [44:38]
A
Remember when Will broke into the Kitty gang chat? Like, back when we had the telegram?
- [44:42]
B
Yes. Never forget.
- [44:44]
A
And he paid the $5 to, like, be in there or something.
- [44:47]
B
Yeah. And then I canceled his subscription, and I didn't give him a refund.
- [44:50]
A
And he hounded me for the $5 for so long, and I was like, no, you made a commitment to yourself that you were spending the $5. You pass go. For a short period of time. We saw you and we kicked you out, and we kept your money.
- [45:07]
B
But I'm just laughing because I'm like, you pass go. You broke the rules, and you were removed. Which was also stated in the rules.
- [45:16]
A
Wait, remember when he also used, like, his actual email?
- [45:21]
B
Yeah. That's how I found him. Within literally two minutes of someone saying, will's in here. I had. I had his ass. Oh, my God.
- [45:28]
A
I'm like, go kick him out right now. Do not refund him his $5.
- [45:31]
B
Honestly, I probably still have the screenshots of that conversation. Bringing the episode full circle, baby.
- [45:39]
A
I just couldn't imagine living in a house with my husband. And just, like, laying in bed and getting a ven. Mo request for Chipotle.
- [45:48]
B
I remember this one time.
- [45:52]
A
Wait, what?
- [45:53]
B
This was not from my husband or anyone I was dating. I remember this one time that I was told that I was gonna attend, like, a movie. Like, I was coming in for something, was told I was gonna attend a movie. So I was like, sure. Like, let me know with the ticket, like, what the ticket is, because, like, I Pay my way. 112Pay my way. And I. Nobody ever told me how much it was. And I kept asking and no one told me. And I then turned around and I said, hey, can, like, someone let me know? Nobody let me know. Literally, two days later, I received a message with the total asking for it to be paid back by not the person I was even going to go see.
- [46:38]
A
Yeah, see, no, I'm ignoring that message immediately.
- [46:42]
B
I immediately paid it and was like, I'm never, never doing anything like that again.
- [46:47]
A
Is that not the craziest? Like, I. I understand people who split their finances, and, like, I don't want it to sound judgy to those people, because if you have separate finances from your spouse and y' all have this agreement that they're paying 50 of, like, their stuff, and you're paying 50 of your stuff, I just feel like that would give me such an ick for.
- [47:11]
B
Someone who's not used to it. I definitely, for me personally, it's such a foreign concept that it's. I'm like, ooh, I don't like it. But I think for people who are used to that or grew up with that dynamic, it's probably so normal to them. And joint accounts probably freak them out.
- [47:24]
A
I can tell you right now, if I started getting Venmo requests from. From anyone that's ever, like, paid for a meal for me, I would be like, I do not recall that meal.
- [47:36]
B
I do not recall familiar.
- [47:40]
A
On that note, we have weekly devotional. I loved this. It said, mental exhaustion is real.
- [47:47]
B
But what if we're.
- [47:48]
A
But what if redefining your capacity was an act of trust, not defeat. Your brain is the most energy demanding organ in your body, and some days it shows. Not because you run a race or climb a mountain, but because you've been quietly carrying the weight of awareness. You're thinking three steps ahead while trying to stay present. You're remembering what was, holding on to what is, and wondering about what might be. You're discerning tone, managing emotions, replying, replaying words, bracing outcomes. And still, somehow, you're trying to be Kind. No wonder you're tired. Mental exhaustion doesn't always look dramatic. Sometimes it just feels like staring at a blinking cursor or forgetting what room that you walked into. Asking yourself, am I okay? Reminds you of your capacity. It feels like nothing is wrong, but everything feels heavy. It's not a weakness. It's not a failure. What it means to be human is noisy. Always on world. So if today feels foggy or slow, strangely exhausting, let it. Let your limitations lead you into deeper resilience. Where you end, he begins.
- [48:54]
B
I love that. I will tell you that. When you started, I literally thought you said mental illness start, like immediately. I was like, I am not well.
- [49:09]
A
And we have weekly tea. I didn't know what you would do.
- [49:13]
B
Okay. I'm terrified.
- [49:15]
A
This is from St. Petersburg, Florida.
- [49:17]
B
Oh, okay.
- [49:18]
A
So Florida man was taken to jail after he threw spaghetti sauce at his mother during an argument at their home. He's 41 years old. He is charged with battery and resisting an officer without violence. It says that this was around 8pm at night. Officers were called to the St. Petersburg home when an argument turned physical. He doused his mother with spaghetti sauce and the spaghetti sauce was found in her hair by police. It says that he ran from the scene, later returned to the home and. And was found hiding in the backyard bushes. I just need to know, like, you know, Kayla and I've talked before about, like, throwing breast milk on our ex husbands.
- [50:04]
B
Yes, ma'.
- [50:04]
A
Am. Like, felony for sure.
- [50:08]
B
Like that's a felony.
- [50:09]
A
Yeah. I mean, I would imagine it's like a bodily fluid, but it's like I'm doing all of these jobs and you can't even heat up a bottle and you fall asleep. And now my breast milk is scorched. Fuck. Okay. I don't think that I could ever imagine just dousing my mom with spaghetti sauce.
- [50:28]
B
First of all, I need to know if his mom didn't have like, the giant wooden spoons that my mom has, because she can reach across the whole kitchen and smack the shit out of you with a hot spoon with the spaghetti sauce on it.
- [50:41]
A
I would actually love to know if this was like, cooled down spaghetti sauce or if this was like, hot.
- [50:49]
B
I don't care either way. But if it was hot, that's so I. What would I do? What would I do if it was poured on me? Capital murder.
- [51:00]
A
I can promise you, if someone poured spaghetti sauce on me, I don't care if it was hot or cold. I think my natural reaction would be to laugh because I think I would be so pissed that I would just laugh and then I'm never going to let you forget it. So we immediately just need to go our separate ways and never speak.
- [51:20]
B
Once again, back to your we are not in Common Anymore.
- [51:26]
A
Who do I think I am when I tell someone that.
- [51:33]
B
That'S Brittany, can.
- [51:35]
A
You stop calling me? Because we are not in common.
- [51:38]
B
We are not in common.
- [51:39]
A
We have nothing in common, including each other. Keep your trouser snake and keep it moving.
- [51:45]
B
You're not your trouser snake.
- [51:50]
A
And on that note, that's all we have time for today. We hope that you guys enjoyed this episode. If you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that from any podcast app wherever you get your pods. Always first at Podcast one. We hope you have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.
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B
Bye.
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C
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D
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