A Ballot Worth Casting: Wednesday, November 6th, 2024

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast - "A Ballot Worth Casting: Wednesday, November 6th, 2024"

Hosted by Dear Media's Jacqueline Foley and Claudia Oshry, this episode of The Toast delves into a mix of personal celebrations, national events, and trending stories that captured the nation’s attention on November 6th, 2024. The hosts seamlessly blend light-hearted banter with insightful commentary, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives.

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1. Birthday Celebrations Amidst Election Day

The episode kicks off with a heartfelt celebration of Jacqueline Foley's 19th birthday, which coincides with a significant election day. Claudia Oshry warmly wishes Jacqueline, setting a joyous and personal tone for the episode.

• Jacqueline Foley shares her appreciation for a peaceful birthday at home, reflecting on how birthdays evolve into moments of tranquility and joy:

  "As you grow up, you're just hopeful for, like, a peaceful, loving, joyous day." ([00:53])

• The conversation seamlessly transitions to the intertwining of personal milestones with national events. Claudia muses on the timing, noting:

  "It’s a big Wednesday after the big Tuesday." ([00:03])

2. Navigating the Election Results and Their Impact

Jacqueline and Claudia discuss the impact of the election results revealed on Jacqueline’s birthday. They express surprise at the swift announcement of results and ponder the extended transition period between election victory and inauguration.

• Claudia Oshry critiques the prolonged transition period, suggesting it may be a systemic flaw:

  "I just feel like we're like dragging it out at this point, you know?" ([04:53])

• Jacqueline Foley provides a pragmatic viewpoint, acknowledging the necessity of a smooth transition:

  "It takes time to transition. I think it would be weird if it was overnight." ([05:16])

3. Fast Five Stories: Trending News and Pop Culture

The hosts present their Fast Five Stories, highlighting significant news and pop culture moments from the day.

a. Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards’ Diss Track

Jacqueline and Claudia delve into the unexpected release of a diss track titled "Smallest Man," targeting Zach Bryan in defense of Brianna LaPaglia Chicken Fry. They analyze the lyrical content and its potential repercussions on Bryan's career.

• Claudia Oshry expresses her initial skepticism, later praising the song’s production and lyrical depth:

  "I watched the full five minutes, and let me tell you, like, I laughed. [...] the rhymes and the actual lyrics were really, really well done." ([31:16])

• Addressing the personal nature of the diss, Claudia remarks:

  "I was clutching my pearls. This man is a dirty dog." ([33:02])

b. Kristen Cavallari and Britney Spears’ Interaction

The discussion shifts to Kristen Cavallari’s podcast, where Britney Spears reached out for a phone conversation post-divorce announcement. They explore Cavallari's candid revelations about her dating life and personal preferences.

• Jacqueline Foley highlights Cavallari’s specific criteria for her next relationship:

  "She is looking for someone who's had a vasectomy... and the next person that she dates, like, will be her husband." ([39:09])

• Claudia reflects on Cavallari’s transformation over the years, expressing admiration:

  "She's so funny. And I like that she...made a really nice life for herself after that show in terms of...having her own business and family." ([41:15])

c. Reba McEntire’s National Redhead Day Post

Reba McEntire faced backlash for posting about her hair on National Redhead Day amidst the election frenzy. Jacqueline and Claudia discuss whether the timing was inappropriate or simply a coincidental social media strategy.

• Claudia Oshry defends Reba’s intentions, suggesting it was likely pre-scheduled content:

  "I'm pretty sure Reba has like a six person content team who... doesn't realize that November six would coincide with the election." ([44:27])

• Jacqueline Foley critiques the public's reaction, advocating for the coexistence of celebrations:

  "Why can't two things be true? And like, we should just skip the day?" ([45:10])

d. Adele’s Vegas Residency Conclusion

Adele expresses genuine sadness over the end of her Las Vegas residency, describing the shows as her "best friend." The hosts empathize with her emotional connection to the residency and discuss the benefits she gained from its stability.

• Adele reflects:

  "This really is the beginning of the end... this show has been my best friend throughout all of that." ([48:40])

• Claudia Oshry commends Adele’s decision, recognizing the balance she maintains between her career and personal life:

  "I really believe her when she says she's gonna be sad." ([50:05])

e. Angela’s Personal Transformation

Claudia shares updates on Angela (formerly Black China), highlighting her positive changes, including sobriety and a renewed focus on family and faith.

• Claudia Oshry praises Angela’s journey:

  "She looks so healthy. I'm so happy for her. I am rooting for her so hard from the sidelines." ([52:01])

4. Dear Toasters: Advice Segment

In the Dear Toasters segment, Jacqueline and Claudia address listeners' personal dilemmas, offering their insights and advice.

a. Ring Selection Dispute

A listener expresses frustration over her boyfriend's insistence on choosing her engagement ring without her input. The hosts discuss the importance of communication and mutual respect in such significant relationship decisions.

• Claudia Oshry advises:

  "Anyone who speaks to you like that, like, is not your man. Like, that is not your husband." ([65:12])

b. Boyfriend’s Late-Night Phone Snooping

Another listener is concerned about her boyfriend snooping through her phone at night. The hosts emphasize the red flags of trust issues and dishonesty in relationships.

• Claudia Oshry strongly advises:

  "This relationship is cooked. Don't worry about it. That's our show. That's your toasters." ([69:03])

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5. Final Thoughts: The Role of Podcasting in Modern Discourse

As the episode wraps up, Claudia and Jacqueline reflect on the influence of podcasting in shaping public opinion and fostering community amidst a divided nation.

• Claudia Oshry shares her pride in being a podcaster:

  "It was really very interesting to watch podcasting... have such an impact on people." ([57:46])

• Jacqueline Foley contemplates the podcast’s role in the broader societal context:

  "We can’t do enough?" ([58:44])

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Toast, Jacqueline Foley and Claudia Oshry skillfully navigate through personal celebrations, national events, and trending stories, all while maintaining an engaging and relatable dialogue. Their ability to intertwine humor with critical analysis offers listeners a well-rounded perspective on the day's happenings, making it both entertaining and informative.

Notable Quotes:

• "As you grow up, you're just hopeful for, like, a peaceful, loving, joyous day." – Jacqueline Foley ([00:53])

• "I just feel like we're like dragging it out at this point, you know?" – Claudia Oshry ([04:53])

• "This man is a dirty dog." – Claudia Oshry ([33:02])

• "Anyone who speaks to you like that, like, is not your man. Like, that is not your husband." – Claudia Oshry ([65:12])

• "This relationship is cooked. Don't worry about it." – Claudia Oshry ([69:03])

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Transcript

[Jacqueline Foley]

Good morning, Millennials.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to the toast and Happy Wednesday. A big Wednesday after the big Tuesday. A big Tuesday because of obvious reasons. And a big Wednesday because our girl, Jacqueline Foley is celebrating her 19th birthday. Happy birthday, Jax. Guys, make sure to sound off in the comments. Wishing Jacqueline Foley a happy birthday. How are you doing, Jacqueline?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I'm doing good. Yes. That's why it's a big day today, because it's my birthday. Yeah, it's been a really nice day so far. Just, like, a nice birthday at home. I don't have, like, major crazy plans. Like, I'm not.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're not going to the club.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Going to the club. Even though in the club, we all fam.

[Claudia Oshry]

You tell them. Okay. Gen Z, she really is 19, let me tell you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's one of my favorite. Sounds like it cracks me up. And I use it a lot in my everyday life.

[Claudia Oshry]

In the club, we all fail, fam. It's hilarious. I can't believe you know that. Sound like you're so young.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I really enjoy it. So, yes, in the club, we are all a fam. I'm just enjoying, like, a nice birthday at home so far. It's been, like, a quiet morning, and then I'll just have a nice day. That's, you know, kind of birthdays, as you grow up, you're just hopeful for, like, a peaceful, loving, joyous day.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I think as you grow up, you hope that, of course, your best friend slash partner in crime slash business partner slash sister would sing you a happy birthday with her beautiful voice. Is that something you hope for, you think?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes, because I think there's been a lot of fanfare for your voice. Yeah. And I'm always your number one fan.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's so true. As a nation, we've truly never been more divided. And you would never know it if you went to the comment section of our Instagram. Like, people were just kind of fawning over my vocals. I feel like I reminded these bitches. Like, yeah, I sing on the podcast. Like, I'm usually not giving it 100. Like, I'm not really trying. And I gave the God Bless America rendition yesterday. My entire. And people were really receptive to that, so I. I'm thrilled about that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So do you want to sing me Happy Birthday? Oh. Cause I'll never stop you.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, you're, like, begging me to at this point.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think you have to.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, guys, please join me in wishing our beautiful, talented, stunning, and smart swirly a Happy birthday, Stevie Wonder's version or Royalty version.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Okay. Regular Happy birthday.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Make it soulful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Happy birthday day to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Jacqueline F. Stunning. Happy birth. I did too much. Sorry, Let me just undo. Guys, forget, forget. Like you didn't hear that. You didn't hear that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She made it about her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Happy birthday day to me. The end.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That was beautiful, Turdy. Thank you so much for that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you so much. I know it's like, it's definitely annoying and you're not like a self centered, like, center of attention person even on your birthday. But, like, it definitely is annoying. Like, everybody's talking about the election and not your birthday, right?

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, no, I'm used to it, honestly, as having a November 6th birthday. Like this always comes with the terror.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like the day after. I feel like Sometimes it's like November 2nd.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It has never in my conscious life, I'm sure, you know, when I was a toddler, but in my conscious life, been the day after a presidential election. But sometimes it's been the day of the election. That happened one time. I remember that. I don't know what's.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think day of the election, like, is actually fun to have a birthday on. There's a lot of excitement. There's something really, like, beautiful about the process. Right. And we're all everybody, no matter what side you're on, like, you have hope and it's kind of beautiful. And even like yesterday with we were all making our Chili's, like, this morning, half of us are upset and half of us are cool. The day before, like, the actual day is actually exciting.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes, I would agree with that. But I feel like it's like people who have their birthday at Christmas, like, you really do just get used to it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And so I am used to it. However, I didn't expect that, like, we would know the results today just because of, like, last year, it took a few days, so I didn't expect, like, that. I thought we would be in this, like, limbo and everyone would just be like, oh, well, let's just focus on Jackie's birthday.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right, Right. Instead of, like, let's distract ourselves from the impending results, like with the celebration of Ms. Jacqueline Foley's birthday.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Right. But no, the results are here. My birthday is here. We have our new president elect. As an old president.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, let's say this is the weird thing. And I'm sure there's a reason for it. Like, there's a lot of things in, like, the country I don't understand. I'm sure, like, you guys will comment like, Claudia, this is why they do it. I'll be like, okay. But at this present moment, I don't know, like, it is really crazy that, like, you get elected and then like the old president, like, chills for like three more months. Well, no, like November, December. Yeah, like three months change. And it's just like, I feel like that's a bad call, you know, because if I was Biden and Biden didn't run, so it's different. But like, let's say Biden ran and lost. Like, you're like low key mad. Like, if I would be mad, like, you know.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just feel like it's a flaw in the system.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, well, it takes time to transition.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And then actually I was watching the news and they were explaining why and now I remember, actually there's like a lot of things that need to be done between, like, the, you know, the polling crew of America, you know, they're still counting and shit.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, yeah. But also just like, that's just how it is. I think it would be weird if it was overnight.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just feel like we're like dragging it out at this point, you know?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, congrats to the winners and true condolences to the losers. Like, that's the thing about the elections. Like, it's 50, 50.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, you win some, you lose some.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's tough when you lose and it's great when you win. And to everyone who got what they wanted, that's great. To everybody who did it, like, that sucks. Like, I feel that. Like, so, onward and upward, united we stand. And God bless America. No, I won't. I don't want to actually. Like, I don't want to do it again because, like, the other one was so.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, just like, leave perfection as it is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Leave well enough alone. When do you think you're going to open your birthday presents? Like, are you going to FaceTime me when you open mine?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of course I will. Maybe this afternoon. I don't want to wait too long, but I don't. I feel like you have to be well into the day. You can't open them in the morning. Like, what are you, a kid at Christmas?

[Claudia Oshry]

By the way, so true.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And get some chill birthday.

[Claudia Oshry]

So much pressure too. Cause like, you know how many gifts you have? So there's like, you know, six people like, Zach, whatever. And you don't wanna do them all at once. You don't wanna do them all in the morning. You really have to spread them out throughout the day. And you know who's getting better.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I'm not gonna Feed them throughout the day. Like a scavenger hunt. Why?

[Claudia Oshry]

That's amazing.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I'm gonna be sat with my presents and I'm gonna open them. I'm not gonna, like, open your door special.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's okay to act like a 2 year old.

[Jacqueline Foley]

My day is special. I'm not a 2 year old.

[Claudia Oshry]

But it's okay if you are.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, I'm not. And we've never done that.

[Claudia Oshry]

I sometimes, yeah, I like, wait for Ben's gift. Like later in the day. Like, I don't want to do all my gifts at once. Then it's like I have no more gifts.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We literally always do our gifts at once. Like, we do it. We all are sat.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I feel like when we're with the family, like Ben's gift, it will be separate. Like either in the morning and then I get everybody else's at dinner that night. Like, it's nice to spread it out.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm also getting a haircut today. Major national news. I like because I'm not doing anything crazy. It was just like on the cow. You know, I try and go quarterly to my girl Mahogany. This is going to be a trim. Like, don't be looking for a transition video for me. It's a trim. I might.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Thank you.

[Claudia Oshry]

My front, my slut strands are like down to my nipples. You know, I got to get them back to my chin. It's just, it's called growth maintenance.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Back in the day, you would have like, called this a major chop.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I'm thinking two inch trim. Get me my layers and my angles and I'm putting, you know, Rachel Green and I'm good.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's good. I have that coming up in a few weeks. I'm excited. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Just consider it maintenance.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Maintenance.

[Claudia Oshry]

And today is kind of a long awaited day for the dtq. The Dear Toasters community. Dear Toasters has returned. And the submissions that I selected last week that I accidentally. Well, not accidentally. It was just kind of an unfortunate series of events that never got to get read. Are getting their shine today. So. Dear Toasters, what a loyal fan base we have when it comes to the dtq.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I love, I know people were upset, but like, it meant so much to me how upset people were Friday to the point that they were dragging Queenie and Weenie. They were like, yes. I can't believe you said you guys.

[Claudia Oshry]

Didn'T skip Queen and me, but you skipped your toes.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Rather have had your toasters, like, it's okay. Like, drag us through the med. Like, I love how much you Love it.

[Claudia Oshry]

But don't bring Queenie and media into this. Like, seriously, Queenie meaning means a lot to me, first of all. And second of all, I agree, Jackie. Even though, like, it's, you know, obviously I was upset that we didn't, you know, get the people what we wanted. It was nice to know, like, how valued the segment is.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Absence makes the heart grow fonder. I really feel like we need to do your toasters today. One, because, like, we're still in the election cycle where, like, celebrities aren't really, like, doing anything. Nothing so crazy. And two, I think your toasters will unite the nation.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think your toasters will unite the nation. Although, you know, sometimes we really divide the country on, like, our Advent advice. Like, some people are like, no, she definitely should say something. And some people are like, no, she definitely shouldn't. So maybe we will further the scasm. What's that word?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Perhaps. But I think also we can agree to disagree. And that's also healthy.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's beautiful. What's the word? Chasm. Schism.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Those are two different words.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like a. Like a divide.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think scasm, but I actually think that they both could apply. Let's Google it. Because, like. Like I said, there's nothing actually.

[Claudia Oshry]

Remember, this is actually a fun fact about me, my bat mitzvah, parshah. So basically, when you get bat mitzvah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Schism is a split. Keep going.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, so schism is the word. So when I was becoming bat mitzvahed, basically, the weekend that you choose to get bat mitzvahed every week in, you know, Judaism, you read the next chapter of the Torah, which is like the Bible.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Chasm is a deep fissure.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's. I know. It's an essay. The word I was looking for is schism. Thank you, Kaz.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, no, no, no.

[Claudia Oshry]

The word I was looking for is schism. Thank you, Claudia.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think there it's synonym.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, but the word I'm about to tell a story about is schism.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay? So every week, tell your schism story.

[Claudia Oshry]

You read a new chapter of the Torah, and then, like, the one that you get for the date you chose for your rabbit. So, like, it just kind of is like this cosmic thing, you know? It's like you don't choose the date for that chapter, but then that chapter, like, ends up following you your whole life, you know? And my chapter was Korach, which was actually, you know, we didn't choose it on Perfect. Was kind of reflective of my life. Like, Korach was like, this Guy and he was just kind of rebellious. Like, he really rejected authority. And what ended up happening is the earth's split and swallowed them up because God was like, you're nuts.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So it was a schism in the earth.

[Claudia Oshry]

And so I'm learning it might have.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Been a chasm because it said deep fissure in the earth.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, oh, oh, whatever.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But they're also synonyms. Maybe. It depends on the translation.

[Claudia Oshry]

I remember when I was, like, with the rabbi learning, I saw this word, whether it was schasm or chasm, and I was like, what does that mean? And he explained it to me, like, in such a good way. I always remembered what the word meant. I just can't remember what word it was. I just can't. I remember what it means is not what word it was.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think they're the same word.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just remember it being like, S, C, schism.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But chasm also has a C and.

[Claudia Oshry]

An S. No, no.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I feel like Korach.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kuf Resh. Like, and, you know, a lot of people were making comparisons to me and Korach because I was definitely like, you know, a bit of a rebellious teen. Didn't really embrace authority. Just sort of beat to the, you know, march to the beat of my own drum. And actually, I spoke about that in my speech. Everybody moved at the facility.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Congratulations. They were really moved. They're kind of, like, still talking about it. No, they're actually not still talking about it. I'm not going to say that anymore because I don't want you guys to think I was exaggerating.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Take away from, like, your real.

[Claudia Oshry]

When they are. When they are still talking about it. And they are still talking about my solo from Thirteen, the musical. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Right. And we're talking about it again because it was posted on toastgram and it kind of took the Internet by storm.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Just, like, fun fact about me. I'm a star. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Olivia is cooking me dinner tonight for my birthday.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought you were gonna say Olivia heard what we said about her on the toast and is mad.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, so far. No. I was actually, like, wondering because she.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know she, like, hates when we bring up 25 packs of gum. We, like, never let her live.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's. We were reopening the case on it. Yeah, A couple things. That's, like, case. The case has gone cold on, like, what the truth is of something that happened when we were kids. Of course. You know the other one, Brian, right? Yeah. I don't know if we told that I'm not going to tell that story because it's like, it. Seriously, because of chasm schism. No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Funny.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. She hates so much we have.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't give a fuck. Like, sorry. Olivia is going to need to suffer for the entertainment value of this podcast.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, we're texting. I just text her. Can I tell Brian story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's like an OG family story that Jackie and Olivia, like, will to their graves, disagree on. Like, Jackie claims that Olivia said something, like, really corny and cringey once and Jackie to her grave. Like, well, seriously, she believes in her soul that Olivia said it. Olivia's like, I have no idea what you're talking about. Stop slandering my good name. It's mine alone to disgrace, and never the twain shall agree or even meet in the middle. And then we, like, obviously, like, we talk about it every year. Like, so it comes up all the time.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And it comes up admit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I just.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I know she knows.

[Claudia Oshry]

Should we just say it and if she says no, we'll cut it out because she won't say no.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, you don't understand. Like, this story runs so deep. It is like, it could break us.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie, please.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It could break us. Like, we literally don't disagree on anything. Like, as sisters, except for this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, just who is accurately remembering that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Night and who's known for their accurate memory?

[Claudia Oshry]

The thing is, and.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And who's known for telling a tall tale?

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm not just saying this because, like, I want to blow smoke up your ass and, like, get you to say the story, but, like, I definitely believe you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Thank you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, and because you know what? It's kind of my. It's Olivia's version of stepping off into a new land. Jackie basically will remind you of something corny you said because she never fucking forgets anything. And, like, you deny it till you die because you don't want that sort of staying on your record.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But are you denying it? Like, are you knowing that you're lying or you really just, like, didn't think that you said it?

[Claudia Oshry]

When I first denied the airplane thing, I was not being a liar. Like, I was genuinely, she's fucking lying about me, this bitch. And then maybe I, like, got on a plane and I think I would. Like, as I was stepping on, I was like, wait, I totally said it because I had the thought, like, you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Know.

[Claudia Oshry]

So in that sense, like, maybe Olivia really doesn't believe that she said it. Maybe something will happen to her in her life in the next 10, 20, 30 years that will remind her of the time she said that thing.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Got it. Well, speaking also of our sisters, dear, Satch is here.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. It's so nice that she came down to celebrate your birthday with you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She did. It's been such a pleasure having here, like, uninterrupted counselor time.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's huge. It's huge.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The campers are thriving.

[Claudia Oshry]

How many times has she read the Camper, the counselor to your family?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Zero. She did arrive, like, just at bedtime last night. And so she had to read whatever they had already chosen because, like, they weren't going to stand for that. So of course she got roped into Sandman.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have such a hate for this book that Jackie's boys are obsessed with. Well, seriously, when they asked me to read it, I will turn the page and unbeknownst to them, I will turn about six pages. Like, anything to get through this book. It's so long and boring and bad.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So we love the Little Golden Books. They come, like, there's a million of them on a million subjects. And so they have some Spider man ones. And they also have, like, just every subject. And, like, some of them are, like, really cute, concise, like, good stories.

[Claudia Oshry]

By the way, I don't hate the whole series.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Some of them are, like, really bad and dreadful. So, like, obviously the Sandman one isn't good. And then there are a couple that I think are too advanced, like, a little scary. Like, not right for kids yet.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sandman is so bad and boring. Like, I seriously, I could get through that book in 10 seconds the way I read it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, that's not a good one. Honestly, the Spidey storylines for citing his amazing friends. Like, the gross incompetence of the three. Like, I guess they are, like eight year olds.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's so true, but it's just.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Kind of like, it's not believable.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're literally Martha Stewart. Incompetence.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, like, they're serious. Like, they are seriously incompetent. Like, they swing their webs and they, like, crash into each other because they're not communicating properly.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, well, that's what kids do, need to learn, the value of communication. So maybe that's the message of the book.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, I don't know. They just, like, don't carry them. They're not the elk of superheroes sometimes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did Olivia answer you about Brian?

[Jacqueline Foley]

She from. She said from the Back Street Boys. Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

I like how she asks as if she doesn't know the exact story we're talking about.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay, I said yes. Can I tell it?

[Claudia Oshry]

I'M telling you, she's going to say yes. I feel like we can safely start.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I don't know, Turdy. I don't want to start something. She's cooking me dinner for my birthday.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. She's going to spit in it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Now's not the time to piss her off.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's so true. What's she making?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, that's what she had texted me asking what I wanted. That's what I was going to say. And I. I don't even know. Maybe Bolognese.

[Claudia Oshry]

She makes such a good Bolognese.

[Jacqueline Foley]

What would you ask for?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, the last time I went over, I did ask for Bolognese and she made it for me. That's, I think, what her best. Her best dish.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. So that feels right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Tfr.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. Plus, I had my chili last night. How was your chili?

[Claudia Oshry]

I follow Jackie's chili recipe, except I use ground chicken instead of ground turkey. And let me tell you, I worked so hard on it. I was like, I am not fucking this up. I was so determined. And I think the sheer grit and determination, like, really contributed to the fact that, like, I successfully made your chili. The Ben was shocked. Like, literally shocked at first when I got everything in. And yours is for the crock pot. I didn't do the crock pot because I waited too late.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So, like, it's for either.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So I was just like, damn, did I fuck up? Because once I put everything in and I was like, leaving, except for the beans, leaving it to, like, stew. It was just like, really red. Yeah. And I was like, I feel like chili's more like a brown orange than like a red. It was like, really tomato colored. I'm like, this looks like a tomato soup. And I was like, what did I do wrong? Then I realized I didn't do any of the spices. And, like, the cumin is brown. Like, that's what makes it brown. So after that, I felt much better.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The spices, it was really good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, really, It's a great recipe. It's idiot proof. The worst and hardest part was cutting those two onions. Like, I will never enjoy cutting onions. Like, not me sobbing and wanting to just like. Like, seriously was crying. But other than that, it was so good. And you're really right about an election day chile, especially election night. Last night was so many hours. Like, you know, the first poll polls close at 6. And I know every year the first polls close at 6 and the last ones close at 11. But there was like, you know, counties being held late. We didn't really find out who the president was till like 2am so it was great to have this thing. I could just like, keep coming back to.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. Like round one for the first polls, maybe two hours later.

[Claudia Oshry]

Seven. Seven.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Round two. The structure of the election actually really is parge par. Delicious. Mine was really great as well. But the crock pot, like, I was getting nervous that it wasn't going to be ready in time, so I switched over to the cruise.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I'm telling you, crock pot is like, not the vibe for chili.

[Jacqueline Foley]

If I had gotten it in before, the toast, yesterday would have been amazing. But I didn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I'll ask one more time and then I'll let it go. Did Olivia respond?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Wow, you're really like. I'm really trying to give her grace.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because we have a show to do.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, I'm trying to give her grace in the sense of like. Of not telling it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I mean, okay, fine.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, she's typing.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's gonna like, type and then stop.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Typing like she said. Yes, whatever. But just say my statement as well. This is a statement.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, say the story first.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She said this is her statement. No, I'll say it first. Her statement is, this story is categorically untrue. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's so funny. And you know what? That's my girl. Because, like, she rides for her truth. Like, so, like, she. Even if, like, she knew in her soul, like, maybe years later she figured out that she did say she's not gonna backtrack like, she is. This is her story and she's sticking to it. And I respect that greatly.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, so when we were younger, we used to all sleep in Olivia's bed, like the four of us in her twin bed, like every single night. That's just what we did. And we would, like, talk before we went to bed. We would sleep like Willy Wonka. I even remember, like, what side of the bed I was on.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, we would sleep like Willy Wonka and Olivia had. Like. Like it wasn't a twin size bed, but it was like a.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It was a twin.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was like bigger than a twin. I feel like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, I think you just felt that way because you were little and now.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it had like a trundle bed too. So me and Margot were always delegated to the trundle. Like the two of us on that bed and Jackie and Olivia on the main bed.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But in my memory of this night in particular, the four of us were in the main bed. I'm not going to say that that is 100% accurate. That's just how I remember it right now.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Okay.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I believe you were at the foot of the bed with me, but that is not important to the story whatsoever.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh. And it just goes without saying, and I'm sure this will be a surprise to nobody. I have no memory of this night. Like, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So everyone knows that I loved Backstreet Boys, and Olivia loved NSync, and it divided our house.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was literally the Trump v. Kamala of 2005, or however old we were.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It was the 90s. It was the 90s.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was the 90s.

[Jacqueline Foley]

However, before Olivia got into NSync, there was a short period where she liked the Backstreet Boys.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my drama.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. People don't know this backstory, but, like, our older cousins love the Backstreet Boys, so we. We immediately love the Backstreet Boys. But then Olivia went off and found NSync, and then, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you stayed loyal.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I stayed loyal to the Backstreet Boys. But there was a period that we both loved the Backstreet Boys, and my favorite was Nick Carter. Like, that really doesn't age well. But her favorite was Brian from the Backstreet Boys. Brian Letourneau. What's his.

[Claudia Oshry]

Mary Kay's son. Let me also tell you, I don't even know who Brian. Like, Brian is a thing. We talk.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I know Brian Luttrel by Latrell. Oh, yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know this guy. He's cute, actually.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. You know him from the poster on Olivia's wall.

[Claudia Oshry]

So Jackie and Olivia also had two competing posters. They were definitely from, like, the same exact company. They, like, rolled out. They were huge. Jackie had the NSync, the Backstreet Boys one, and Olivia had the NSync one. They both hung above their bed. Oh.

[Jacqueline Foley]

In Olivia's room for this brief period, she had, like, a page ripped out of, like, a J14 of just Brian Luttrell's face, and it was, like, hunger above her bed on the wall, like, parallel to her bed. You know the way that people, like, hang a picture of Jesus. Just, like, a little picture.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, you guys. And now I'm remembering. Okay, go, go, go. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I remember, like, we used to talk before we fell asleep. Always, like. You know, she was always, like, just saying, like, older sister stuff, like, she's smarter than us, whatever. And one night she said, like, I don't know. You're. I don't know what we were talking about. I'm not even gonna. I'm not even gonna ad lib. I'm just gonna say the facts. She told us that when she thinks of Brian, she can instantly fall asleep. We were like, no way.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's so. We were literally like, magic.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, like, magic. Like, no way. That's, like, sick. And so that night, like, she was like, yeah, like, I'll do it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Show us, show us, show us.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And so she, like, just didn't talk again. She just, like, pretended to be asleep. Oh, my God.

[Claudia Oshry]

Seriously, so funny. Like, she's an actress.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So funny. And then, like, I don't know when. I. Like, this has been ongoing for, like, 20 years, so I don't know, like, how long after that. I was like, olivia, remember when you said this, Right?

[Claudia Oshry]

I actually feel like it was when we were in college. It wasn't, like, that far.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, I think it was, like, early. I think it was, like, high school. I don't even know or I don't know when the argument started, but I, like, called her on having said this once, and she says, like, this is categorically untrue.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. And also then, of course, we had to take it to the next level. We're like, yeah, maybe we were in high school because we were acting so immature, where we would literally run around the house, like, with, like, fake finger guns, like, loading it up, and we would, like, fake shoot each other. We'd be like, brian. And then the person you would shoot would just fall asleep. Seriously, we tortured her with it. Like, no wonder why she denies it. We're so fucking annoying.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We torture her with it.

[Claudia Oshry]

She so fucking funny. Read her statement one more time, just with a bookend, the entire story with her statement.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Her statement is, quote, this story is categorically untrue. Now it's up to you, the people, to decide what you're reading, dear reader.

[Claudia Oshry]

To interpret that as you, like, receive it as. As you. As you will.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And the thing is, it has no consequence, like, whether she, like, said it or not. Right. I just don't know why I would make that up.

[Claudia Oshry]

For Olivia's next birthday, we should get her a cameo from Brian Luttrell 1000. And she'll watch it like this.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She'll miss the whole thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. That is seriously so funny. We would literally, like, with a Glock bright. Oh, my God. So fun taking trips down memory lane.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It is. We've been taking a lot recently. We're just, like, feeling nostalgic.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you also feel like, as you get older, like, your mind opens up, like, earlier parts of your life, you know? I'm so bad with my memory. But weirdly, like, so many things have been coming back to me. Like the senior play.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, that didn't. Like, it's not like a repressed memory that you didn't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but I never, ever think about it. Like, same with Korach.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Korach. Yeah, I guess. But maybe as you experience, like, different things, then you are reminded of a time when.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Really.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Maybe when you experience different things, you're reminded of a time when. And the passage of time is significant, Turk.

[Claudia Oshry]

And by the way, I will miss the Kamala Isms. Like, I really, really will. Like, we had so much fun with her.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It was so much fun.

[Claudia Oshry]

I will really, really miss her laugh like that. It actually brought a lot of joy to me. Of course, existing in the context of all in which you live, do not come. Like, I will miss all of that, like, greatly. Hopefully she's still churning them out, you know. Yeah, we do, like, oddly have a lot to do and we're, like, dilly dallying. No, there's a story I really want to talk about.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Me too. So now, Emmy of Dear Toasters, which is like, everyone is sat for that. Without further ado, to do. To do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jacqueline Foley]

Thank you, Square Turt.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're welcome.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Our first story is like really big crazy news and that is that Dave Portnoy and Josh Richards have dropped a music video called Smallest man, and it is a diss track about Zach Bryan in defense of Brianna lapaglia Chicken fry.

[Claudia Oshry]

So let me say this. I got tagged in this, like, 100 times, and I'm maybe honest with our audience. I feel like they owe that. Like, I rolled my eyes. I was like, I don't care. I thought it was like a Taylor Swift cover, like, and I thought they were just, like, being cringey. Then I got tagged in it so many times this morning, I was like, let me just watch it. And I watched the full five minutes, and let me tell you, like, I laughed. First of all, the production quality was actually very good, and I was really surprised by the lyrics. It's 5 minutes and 20 seconds, so it's like a really long diss track where they talk about a lot of things. And I thought that the, like, the rhymes and the actual lyrics were really, really well done. Like, that was my first impression. I was shocked.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, we actually. I want to pull up a transcription of the lyrics, because they're not bumble Rya. They're not surface lyrics.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no. And. And we've been saying this the whole time, because anytime Josh or Dave say anything about Zach Bryant, I think a lot of people wonder, like, if Brianna sanctions it. And it's my impression I have no proof of this. I just assume, like, everything that gets put out by BFFs, like, is approved by Brianna. So I feel like there's actually a lot, like, quite a few big revelations in this song that perhaps we didn't know. And I know you don't know this, but there's, like, big, like, lore on TikTok about what happened at Fenway. So basically, Noah Khan sold out Fenway, like, two nights in a row, and it was, like, the biggest deal. And he had, like, special guests, and Zach Bryan was supposed to be there one night, and he didn't show up. And there was, like, a lot of conspiracy theories about what happened at the time. I think Noah, Zach, Brianna, everybody was like, oh, scheduling, you know, but everybody sort of knew there was something more. And in the song, they allude to the fact that he was literally too drunk to go to Fenway.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they accuse him pretty heavily of being an alcoholic.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, they actually said, you don't have a drinking problem. Alcohol has a you problem. He also talked about how he has STDs, and that he's giving every girl that he's with STDs, which is very personal and also probably very personal. To Brianna. But what. When I watch this track, I was clutching my pearls. This man is a dirty dog. Like, for everything that he did and for them to get to this level of like they're two huge stars. Like, they have so much influence. Like, they have to spend the time and the energy and the money to write this song and do this in defense of Brianna. Like, what he did to her. There's. And I believe that there's more stuff in terms of like the cheating that we don't know. Like, this isn't awful person.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, 100%. But I also do think that, like, this has been very good for the BFF's pod. Just in terms of like, clicks and. And as you think they got to a place where like, when they first. I remember when they first launched a show, like every episode they would premiere on YouTube, there would be like hundreds of thousands of people waiting and watching. And I feel like they kind of fell off a little bit in the sense that like, they all. Josh's West Coast Dave stated and they were all remote the entire time. And I feel like they kind of got to a place where like, maybe it just wasn't as popping. So I do think them leaning into this is actually really good for the business of podcasting and people are loving it. So I think it's partly feel like really defensive of Brianna, but I also think, like, this is good for business.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes. But they could have just done like a podcast episode that they're gonna do. They said the new episode drops tomorrow at 8pm and like dragged him and that would have been like an. Yeah, like, to do this, like, is so emblematic of like, what he deserves and like, how he must have treated her because, like, this is above and beyond anything. Any standing up for anyone that like, I've ever seen. Like, I was in shock.

[Claudia Oshry]

The STD thing was really crazy because it wasn't something they said one or two times. They said it like 15 times in different ways. Like, so that's just a crazy.

[Jacqueline Foley]

How lucky is Brie to be free of ZB and his std?

[Claudia Oshry]

They also said something really interesting was that his entire band hates him.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, you guys have to watch it for yourself. I can't even remember. There's no. It's not on AZ lyrics yet, so I can't read the transcription for you, but, like, every line. Also, who wrote this song? It's one of the better diss tracks I've ever heard.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't. I do have to Say, like. And this is. I don't know, Dave Porter personally. The man has no rhythm. Like, he was so off.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And Josh actually carried the group.

[Claudia Oshry]

Josh eight, like, but. And Dave. Some people just don't. It's hard for me to even relate because I have perfect pitch and, like, perfect rhythm, but he has, like, no sense of rhythm that he was, like, off the whole time. It was bothering me so much. But I looked past it. It was very well done. Like, I. I completely agree. The actual song, I was really surprised at how good it was.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, and they really. And it wasn't short. It was over five minutes long. And they just didn't stop. New accusations, new allegations. Like, really, it. They had a lot of material.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, they. They came for his art, they came for his looks, they came for his.

[Claudia Oshry]

Height, his D. Is he really five? Five? No way.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think so. And it's, like, really crazy. Yeah. Yeah. People are kind of hung up on that.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, it's shockingly short. No, it says he's 511 on CelebHeights.com. so they were being dramatic.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Really?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I don't think. I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

It says. It says he stands approximately six feet.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So maybe he's been, like, lying to everyone, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. To CelebHeight.com. yeah, maybe. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Anyways, I think I'm gonna tune into that podcast.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I for sure am. The way I become obsessed with Brianna LaPaglia. Like, I. Stan.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. And when they first broke up, I was kind of bummed. I mean, I wasn't. Like I said on the show, like, you know, that's, like, sad. However, it seems as though she, like, has really been suffering in this relationship, so I'm glad that she's free for the best. And it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And there's also, like, a lot of lore. I'm not as familiar with lore. There's, like, drama between the two co hosts. Like, her and her plan. Brie co host Grace. I feel like a lot of that is, like, exacerbated by the Internet. They might be onto something, but I'm not gonna make any sort of judgments until they speak for themselves.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. They mentioned it in the music video.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah. Zach came between Brie and Grace. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, and I also feel like a boyfriend does come between, like, sometimes in, like, a totally healthy, like, non problematic way. Like, a boyfriend comes in between best friends because, like, you. You only have so much time and you now have more time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And you stuff, like sleepovers with your best Friend. But now you're having sleepovers with your boyfriend.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But now this points to, like, something even more insidious because we also know that, like, he tried to keep her away from, like, her job and Dave, and so maybe he did drive a wedge between her and Grace.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look the way I hate this, man. And I'm, like, so proud of myself. Like, I never hopped on the train like you guys. Sorry.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, it's not even that I'm proud of myself because I didn't do anything to, like, you know, I didn't take any moral stance, but I'm actually just relieved that I don't have to, like, unlike his music, because I don't like it or listen to it.

[Claudia Oshry]

We don't have to sell it. Sell it. Celebrate. Separate the art from the artist.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, we don't. So that's just, like, really convenient for us, considering it came so close. Like, he's country singer. Like, as they said in the song, he's got Morgan Wallen vibes. Like, I don't even know why I wasn't listening to his music. I just didn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe you saw something in him that. That others didn't.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like an inauthenticity that. Dave and Josh are singing about 1,000. Like, I think this is going to be really bad for his career, which is so crazy that, like, these, like, handful of, like, you know, ragtag influencers are going to take down this, like, huge artist.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you really think so? Like, I feel like as a rock star, a man rock star. Like, there are so many. You're not held to the same standards as normal, decent human beings like you. Just because you're a quote, rock star, like, you can get away with like, cheating, spreading STDs. It's just like, part of the lifestyle, bro. Like, who's. Who's holding you accountable? Like your male followers? No, no.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But it's not even about the cheating because, yeah, that's like, what rock stars do. But there was just like so much in the song that, like, speaks to just, like a bad character and like, that alcoholism and the lying. I don't know, I feel like this is gonna be like a big stain for him that people are always just gonna associate him with, like, this behavior. I don't know. Plus. Plus plus the podcast hasn't even dropped yet. Brianna hasn't even spoken.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no. And the way I'm sat the down for that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Sat with a bucket of chicken fries. Yeah, yeah, bucket of chicken. I'll ask Olivia to make that for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, you should.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Except it's tomorrow. So, like, I wish it was today. That's kind of like what we need today. Today needs a little something like, my birthday can't carry the whole country.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so true. My God. Like, do we not do enough?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Mm.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Kristin Cavallari also wants to carry the country with all the tea that she's spilling on her podcast.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what, is this about Britney?

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, because, like, I just don't know how to tell people. Like, Britney, it's just, like, doesn't interest me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Well, basically she, Britney Spears saw a clip of Kristen Cavallari's podcast and then had her publicist reach out to Kristen Cavallari for her phone number and has been like, texting Kristen Cavallari. But yes, there's other parts more interesting.

[Jacqueline Foley]

This other part about her dating life. Like, she is talking about what the future holds, what she's looking for in her podcast, let's be honest. So she is looking for someone who's had a vasectomy. She says. She said that her Perfect man is 44, with about two kids who are headed off to college and who's had a vasectomy and not interested in other kids. So all of this is like giving a window into her past relationship.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Kind of like a confirmation that that's what did them in.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She said, you want to know what's a deal breaker for me? I want someone who's had a vasectomy. I don't want to have to worry about any of that. She said, I'm not on birth control. I was on birth control from 15 until 23. So she said, I think dads are the ones who've obviously had vasectomies. Like, no one without kids is going to have a vasectomy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So what? She further explained why she's interested in dating a dad. She said, ideally, his kids would be a little bit older, so I don't have to deal with the day to day because I can't have a Brady Bunch.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She later confessed her perfect guy would be someone who's 44, successful, has two kids, going off to college, vasectomy. Also, she does not want to date a celebrity. She said that people have been in her dms, like, since the breakup, like, and big names, too, who even three years ago, she might have been like, oh, I'll go out with them. But now she wants a businessman beau. She wants the quiet life. She said she's never putting her relationship on social media again, like she did in the past, and that people will not have access to her next relationship. And then she also said that the next person that she dates, like, will be her husband. Like, she wants to. She doesn't want to date. Like, she wants to be married.

[Claudia Oshry]

She wants to get married again.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Well, I feel like she's talking about, literally, someone, like, we know. She's being so specific. Like, 44, two kids headed to college. Like, but if. If it's not a celebrity or even, like, a famous business person, that we might not know them.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, she is sort of seeing someone now. She said.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, how old is she?

[Jacqueline Foley]

She is 37.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, so 44 is, like, super age appropriate. Yeah, I love that for her. She, like. I feel like my relationship with Chris and Cavallari is, like, for so many years, because when I watched that show, like, she was the devil. She was coming for Elsie, and, like, I was fiercely protective of Elsie, and I feel like I carried that, like, image of her into my adult life up until, like, a couple of years ago where I was like, it's literally fake and it's not real and it's a hundred years ago. Like, let it go. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Forgive her attorney.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's so true. And I think maybe it was like, last year or the year before. I watched the first season of Laguna beach, and it's just like, not at all how you remember it. It's like, she was just trying to have fun. Okay. She was just trying to have fun. And, like, yeah, she was cool and pretty and she got hang out with the older guys, and, like, the older girls hated her for it. But, like, you would do it, too, for a check, you know?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, not even for a check.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I, like, I. I had, like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I had to let go of a lot to unlearn.

[Claudia Oshry]

I had to unlearn. And I like her so much now. She's so funny. And I like that she, like, has a podcast and she doesn't take herself so seriously. And she really did, like, made a really nice life for herself after that show in terms of, like, having her own business and family. And I really like her.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Me too. I find her just, like, interesting. I think she has a really good personality that, like, she's always making news with her podcast, and she is, like, warm family life, and, like, she's always cooking and she just does a lot. And she's someone that I like following. I followed her. I followed her forever. I think she's one of my, like, earliest follows that, like, hasn't gone away.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I really like her. It feels like I'm betraying, like, an 11 year old. Like, I feel. Does anybody else, like, feel that crazy way? Like, Like, I can't. Like, it's Elsie for life.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. No.

[Claudia Oshry]

And she was so the devil. Like, I hated her so much. Meanwhile, every watch. Like, she didn't even do anything that crazy.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, no, she was just, like, she.

[Claudia Oshry]

Was just, like, she just knew she was that bitch. And like, she acted like it when. And when you are that bitch, like, you're really not supposed to act like it. And honestly, when I rewatched some of these episodes, like, Elsie kind of came off as, like, a big dope. The Bisson opponent, like, always, woe is me. Like, Steven, Steven, come over to the hot tub. Like. And honestly, half of what Elsie had going for her was that her parents were so rich. Like, that was, like, kind of it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That house.

[Claudia Oshry]

That house. And in season one, they're, like, building the house. So she keeps bringing Steven over to, like, the construction site and it's.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Did he, like, skate in the pool? Yeah, yeah, it was like a skate park for him.

[Claudia Oshry]

She just rested a lot on that house.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I mean, it's a lot to rest on.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know I would do it too.

[Jacqueline Foley]

However, in hindsight.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, like, as 16 year olds, we found that impressive. But now I'm like, no. Kristen was beaming with personality.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, and the show is like, from her point of view, like, we're meant to feel sympathetic towards her, but yeah, watching it now, it's like she's kind of an ag.

[Claudia Oshry]

And like, what did we hate Kristen for so much? Like, when they all went to Mexico and it's like Kristen's like, they're calling her, like, a slut and she's like, dancing on the tables like she's having fun. Like, Lauren and the other girls are like, so miz in the corner, like, judging everyone in their miniskirts. Like, stop.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's funny how life changes, you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Know, it is funny how life changes. So put her at the top of the list, per usual.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of eligible singles, of course. Are you ready for our next story? Someone who did try to make election day about her, and she was brutally rebuffed.

[Claudia Oshry]

Who?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Miss One. Reba McIntyre.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. Guys, Reba is getting kind of canceled.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Reba McEntire has the entire Internet roasting her for sharing a photo of her red hair with folks saying she's focused on the wrong thing today. So apparently yesterday was National Redhead Day, and she posted two photos of her hair. One with a long haircut and one with a shortcut. And she said, long or short? Either way, I love being a redhead. Hashtag National Redhead Day now.

[Claudia Oshry]

So this bothered people for two reasons. One, people were like, listen, lady, not the time or place. Two, a lot of people thought it was a subliminal endorsement. Red. People were looking for subliminal endorsements all day from celebrities yesterday, like, based on their emoji. So I don't think Reba was doing that. I'm pretty sure Reba has like a six person content team who at the beginning of the year, like, schedules out content for like, National Margarita Day, National Bread Day, National Redhead Day. Not realizing, like, that November six would coincide with the election. Like, I truly think this post has been in queue for months. I don't think Reba meant anything by it. Reba is my girl, defender to the death. So obviously I'm biased. But I don't think she had any ill will with this post.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I don't think she had any ill will. And I'm actually going to challenge you on that because, like, so there was an election. Why can't we also celebrate National Redheads Day? Like, why can't two things be true? And like, what, we should just skip the day? What else are redheads going to lose?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's true. It's true. As a minority, I could see how.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That other people were posting other things other than the election day yesterday. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But for some reason, like, people really just took all their frustration. Maybe, maybe it was that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, I think it's misguided. One person said, like, reva, it's not the time. And then everyone like, jumped on it like the word moist and it's. Maybe it is the time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, the other thing is that. And I've seen like, a lot of people having like this discourse online, like influencers being like, you know, I feel so weird about, like posting my regular content and like ads and stuff. It's like, well, everybody else has to go back to work. So do you like? Yeah, I feel, you know, people don't also acknowledge, like, as a celebrity, part of your job is to maintain those social media pages and constantly feed them with content and mindless.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And she knows moronic when National Redhead Day is right.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, like, moronic National Blank Day posts, like, are a part of a. When you get to a certain level of celebrity. Like, this is what your content strategy is. And so what, Reba shouldn't show up for work because there's elections.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, yeah, she's got bills to pay. And not that this tweet is really paying her bills, but I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

It'S moving the needle in the sense that we're talking about.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We're talking about Reba, her hair campaign.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. Even though with the backlash, I doubt she'll be the face of Garnier for teeth after this.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. Though her hair does look great.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say it was all in good fun. It was very funny.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And, like, two photos are. And also just, like, long or short? I love you. It's, like, so fucking random.

[Claudia Oshry]

So random and, like, so devoid of, like, seriously, everything going on in the world. Like, it was funny. I actually.

[Jacqueline Foley]

In that way, like, it's perfect.

[Claudia Oshry]

I agree. And, like, can't we just have nice things and, like, Reba's Instagram is one of them. Like, it's so unoffensive. Like, it's you. It's unifying. Did we like the short or the long hair better? Actually, you know, I'm so different. I recently rewatched Reba, and she goes through a huge hair transition on the show. Like, when she starts out, she basically has a buzz cut, and then by the end of the show, her hair is, like, down to her shoulders. Like, it really is. I think I liked it somewhere in the middle. You know, the short was really short. She really is a pixie cut in the beginning, and it's too short.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But then by the end, she has, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, her hair is, like, too long. I liked it somewhere in the middle. If she's really wanted to know, she.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Should have posted a third picture.

[Claudia Oshry]

She should have posted the poll option.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, she should have. That's a vote.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Worth making worth.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's a ballot worth casting.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Just so funny. I want to thank Reba for the chuckle.

[Claudia Oshry]

I want to thank Reba for the chuckle.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Thank you to this, Reba.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you to this, Reba.

[Jacqueline Foley]

However, in both pictures, she's, like, looking down. Like, I actually can't see what the hair looks like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. In both pictures, she's looking down. I'm actually glad you brought that up, because it looks like one of those commercials for, like, hair regrowth where they, like, make you take a picture of your scalp before and after. That's what this looks like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. I do feel like her hair looks healthier in this short.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe like, she's gearing up for, like, a Nutra fall partnership or something, because that's what this feels like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

If I were in the marketing team at Nutrafol, like, my first call today is Reba 1000. And, like, I want the ad up today.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm literally whitelisting this piece of content. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And be like, listen, Reba, they want it long. Like, you're gonna start sharing your neutral journey.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Just free marketing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Just a couple of ideas.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Adele is genuinely sad about the end of her Las Vegas residency. She said, the show has been my best friend. So after two successful years, Adele is genuinely sad about the nearing of the end of her Las Vegas residency. On Sunday, she looked ahead as she realized there's less than a month until her final shows take place. She said, this really is the beginning of the end.

[Claudia Oshry]

There are no other shutting down for a year.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I know, but, like, now it's the end. She said, no, now it's a month. Like, she said, I'm not going to be, like, surprised. This is the end.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She is taught, saying that this show has been her best friend. She said, my life is a thousand times better. My life, not my career, not my music. I'm talking about my actual life. And I really, truly think that the show has been my best friend throughout all of that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Well, not to make everything about me, and I feel like I've told this story before, but when I went, she talked about how she loves doing this residency so much because it provides her with a level of stability as, like, a mom and a human being that you really don't get as, like, a touring musician. Like, you're never home. And so she lives in la, she comes to Vegas, she flies private. What is it, 30 minutes on, like, Thursdays and she goes back on Sundays. Like, it's really provided her a level of just kind of normalcy, very, like, 9 to 5 energy that she has loved so much, like, watching her son grow up. And it's actually been really sweet. So I really believe her when she says she's gonna be sad. Although things like this when you're at, like, she's not retiree. Like, she. She. These things like, this can't go on forever unless you are, like, Celine Dion. Like, you're in this later season.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, but it can, like, go on forever. She wanted it to. So she obviously, like, loves it so much, but, like, not enough to keep doing it.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I think it's because she still has, like, albums to release and, like, tours to go on. She's not done yet.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, but she said she's, like, taking 15 years off music.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's, like, always saying stuff. You know what I mean?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. And I feel like she does take, like, 15 years off. And then time flies, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

The next album is going to be.

[Jacqueline Foley]

47, and I'll be like, okay, I'm sad I'm older, and I'm sad I'm older.

[Claudia Oshry]

I highly recommend if anyone can make it to a show. It's so beautiful. And I do feel like I, as a human being, I have officially moved on from those canceled first shows. Like, I feel like that was something we did not stop talking about, wondering about questioning, conspiracy theorizing, the pool and the fireworks and, you know, having went. I still don't understand why she couldn't get it done, but. But I feel like she's really made up for it. Like, it's clear. Like, she wanted to do it. She kept extending.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I feel like people who were affected by that cancellation, like, have recovered.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And if they can forgive, so can I. Yeah. So I just want to say, like, I make an official decree. Like, I. How I've. How I officially like Chris and Cavallari now. Like, I officially am over the Adele first round of residency cancellations.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So much so that, like, we're not gonna bring it up again, because I feel like that's when. Like, you. Like, when you're really over something, like, you just leave it in the past.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I feel like I won't bring it up.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay. I'm down.

[Claudia Oshry]

Especially. Especially if the residency ends. Like, why would I be bringing it up?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, Well, I. Yeah, she wouldn't be in the news if she's just, like, being private. I actually had forgotten about him until we were doing that, like, toast Patreon about our old titles. I'm like, oh, my God. I remember when that was the biggest, craziest thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's actually, like, not that crazy. Like, it was just crazy that she did it the night before. Like, the concept of canceling and, like, wanting to push it back is not a big deal. But now I'm talking about it again. But, yeah, I said I wouldn't, and here I am.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We're here to. For dropped.

[Claudia Oshry]

Mm. Are you ready for considerate China?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Consider it China. She looks well.

[Claudia Oshry]

I am. There are very few people I am as happy for as I am for Angela. I feel like she doesn't even go by black China anymore. She goes by her government name. She got all the filler from her body removed. She removed all of her tattoos. She stopped drinking. She's sober. She is, like, much more of an active mom. She has found Christ. Like, I think it's seriously watching her journey. And you could tell you. Look at her, she looks so healthy. I'm so happy for her. I am rooting for her so hard from the sidelines. I'm not like leaving comments on her Instagram, you know what I mean?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, no. Oh my God. Sorry. Is it the fifth and final story that's brought to you by Minted?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jacqueline Foley]

It has, I have custom stationery for my whole family. Fermented. But then also for the holidays. I just placed an order for two different holiday cards for my family. One that's like a bit more general and then one that's a little more personal. Personalized. But combing through their website, like the amount of holiday card options that they have are so, so cute. You could do like custom family ones. You can edit every single thing about the design. So if you don't like what the message says, like you can write your own thing. Like I could say like have a party a gargy party holiday and like minted would make that for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jacqueline Foley]

And then for everybody else and then for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jacqueline Foley]

Thank you for your Ardor Tartar.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're welcome.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Our fifth and final story. A little more podcast news. Let's just shout out to the podcasters who are keeping the country going this week.

[Claudia Oshry]

That is something I actually meant to bring up at the top of the episode that the election season was long and whatever. But it's really been very interesting to watch podcasting, which has been, we know, like an important medium for us. But to see it really be taken so seriously and have such an impact on people. I was very proud to be a podcaster.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I was too. And I'm shocked that Trump won even though he didn't come on the toast.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, it's insane. That was obviously, we're so influential.

[Jacqueline Foley]

He was able to cinch it.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's true, it's true. Without. Without the toaster constituency.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh man, I'm going to miss these jokes. Turt and I miss them, to be honest.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm not. I feel like we are just skirting around landmines these days. Like. Like, I will not miss. Like, everyone's sort of 10 shells, everyone's tense energy. And, like, I get it. There's a lot at stake. Like, but the tense energy of, like, just trying to, like, make people laugh, like, I will not miss that at all.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, but we've had a good time.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, we have.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We really made it our own.

[Claudia Oshry]

We've made it about us, which is all you can expect from swirlies like ourselves.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And we've really made it our own.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

As best as we could. In only a way that we can. However, Teddy Mellencamp, she is actually the Erica Girardi of this election cycle.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so true. The real houses of Beverly Hills and the presidential elections are inextricably linked.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It makes you think.

[Claudia Oshry]

It does make you think.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So she is speaking out on her podcast after filing for divorce. Speaking out. I don't know about speaking out, but she's speaking, period. Because Tamra, on their podcast Two Teas in a Pod, Tamara asked Teddy how she's doing after announcing the divorce. She said, I'm doing all right. She said, at this point, I'm obviously only going to share what I shared on social media. And I just am trying. I don't even know how to say this eloquently, but I'm just trying my hardest to make sure that my kids privacy is protected right now and that we're able to have all these conversations. I just didn't want it to blow up. And for anybody that's curious why I would have posted it, posted a statement, it's because when your name is recognizable and you file in the court system, it becomes public. And then Tamara chimed in to discourage people from literally.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's so something I would say. Like, you guys wanted to know why I brought this up? Well, as a celebrity.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But it's true. I mean, her last name. Could it be more recognizable?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's true. And there are people whose jobs it is at TMZ to, like, sit, literally look through LA County Courtox to see what the celebrities are up to, whether they're being sued, they're getting divorced, they're getting married, somebody died. Like, that's literally how they find out.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. And like, a melon camp can't just slip through the cracks.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I always forget about, like, the legacy beyond Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. John Cougs.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. So Tamara noted, this is a very sensitive subject. And Teddy said, yeah. And I know I'm going to keep working on feeling my best so that I can show up for the best for my kids and my life and my work. I mean, that's the biggest thing for me right now.

[Claudia Oshry]

Got a little frame from Jack and Dian. Two American kids growing in the hot land.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think Tom Petty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie's gonna be. Oh, my God, Are you kidding me? Jackie? Like, seriously, stop. It's not. Are you sure Jackie's gonna be a football star? Diane sitting in the back of Jackie's car. Jackie. It's John Coogler Mellon Camp. Everybody knows that. Jack and Diane. Jack.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay, you're right. You're right. You're right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of course I'm right. And I only know that because Luke Combs covered that song. And then one day I was like, maybe I should listen to the original and the OG Slaps.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I just want to say, has anyone ever seen John Malacham and Tom Petty in the same room? Just saying.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't think they have, because I'm pretty sure Tom Petty's dead. Like, just don't quote me on that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

They're the same person.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually, I don't see that at all. Like, if I were to, like, John Cougar is, like, why you got to.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Add the Cougar always.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's his name.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I know, but, like, you could say it without it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I could, but that. Oh, you want to know why? Because there's that Keith Urban song.

[Jacqueline Foley]

John Deere, John Cougar, John 3:16.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I say it. Because of Keith Urban, dear.

[Jacqueline Foley]

John Cougar, John316. That's not the tune.

[Claudia Oshry]

Football Star. That song is so good. And then also, Jake Owen, the country music star, did, like, a.

[Jacqueline Foley]

He did, like, a cover of Jackie cover.

[Claudia Oshry]

He, like, he. Yeah. And that's actually how I first discovered.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The song of Jack and Diane.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, because it's a million years ago, somebody showed me that song.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Long after the Thrill of Living it.

[Claudia Oshry]

I knew you would know that one. What?

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, I know song in my bones. I just thought it was Tom Petty and the Heartbreak.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, you would be wrong.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, Claudia, let's give it one more shot.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay? Okay. And I just want to say, based on our results yesterday, like, we actually, like, were so equally off both times.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, we did.

[Claudia Oshry]

Based on our results, you would have thought it was a tie.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We didn't predict the election.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I'm actually gonna. I'm gonna try and do something different than I did yesterday.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You go A little high. I'm staying where I am. Can you bring yours down a little bit?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. This is it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like you think. This is it. Crushed it.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is what we're sending to the American people today. Is it love or is it heartbreak? We won't know. Okay, it's time for Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackson I try to give our bet do our best to give advice to the swirlies in need. If you ever want to write into us, you know you can do that. It's two different ways. One, if you head to the toast podcast.com you scroll down, there's a little Dear Toaster submission box. Totally anonymous. If you want to send us an email, you can do that. It's deartosemail.com. here's what the swirlies are currently getting into and Godspeed to the swirlies. Hello, Jax and Turd. Hello, my boyfriend. My boyfriend and I have been dating for two years. We live together. We're in a very serious relationship. We often talk about getting married. So naturally, like many women, I went on Pinterest to find a ring style that I liked. When I showed it to him, thinking it would be like a cute moment, he said, I'll get whatever ring I want because I'm the one proposing and you don't get any say. Basically saying, like, I should just be grateful to get a ring at all. And it really upset me because every girl's dream is her wedding ring. Am I wrong for feeling this way? Should I just be grateful that he's talking about proposing at all? Help.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I just feel like there's a nicer way to say it. And I mean, it just speaks to a potentially larger. Is this the first out of pocket thing he ever said to you? Well, then there might be something deeper, like maybe as a family heirloom and he's like, trying to, like, make it seem good to you. But there I the overall sentiment of, like, I want to pick out the ring that I want for you. Like, I. I don't hate, however, especially if there's an heirloom in the mix. However, like, why did he say it like that?

[Claudia Oshry]

This is one of those situations where it's really hard not to just jump to pushing the button. Break up with your boyfriend. Right? Because he sounds like an ass now. Maybe you just wrote it that way, like, for brevity's sake, and that's not exactly what he said. Or perhaps you're really used to being spoken to like this. And I'm here to tell you, like anyone who Speaks to you like that, like, is not your man. Like, that is not your, your husband. So I. Let's, let's discuss this as if she did accurately translate what he. Like, this is exactly what he said.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, he's a piece of work and he's probably a piece of work in other areas. And he's a problem. Then. Then he's got a problem.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'll get whatever ring I want because I'm the one proposing. And you don't get any say with a quote. So, I mean, there's a quote.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Is there a nice way of say I'll get whatever wing I want and you don't have any say.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Jackie, even if, like he does, you know, really want to surprise her and yada yada, someone coming to you with, with like a picture. Like, okay, say like, okay, cool.

[Jacqueline Foley]

What if he already bought the ring and this was him like being defensive and nervous, so I would have to know the person.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Like, so you need to read the situation. Like, is this a frequent way of him communicating? Because then that's an issue. It was just totally out of the blue. Yeah. That maybe like, you, like, made him nervous and he has the thing in his pocket. Like, that's possible.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I just want to say the idea that a man would buy a ring without input from his enfiance and it's his. It's like he's going to take the lead on it. I. It's not my preferred method, but I don't hate it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I mean, it's. I don't have a preference either way. I just, My concern is like, how you're being spoken to.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

By your man. Like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. But then the concept in general, if she doesn't get say over her ring and it's something every girl dreams of, her wedding ring. I don't think that that has to be that way is what I'm saying about.

[Claudia Oshry]

Just that I guess if I had a preference, like, you know, you. I mean, some people really genuinely want to be completely surprised. So if you want that, like, you can't have say in your ring.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, but she doesn't. She wants to have say in her ring. But what do you think about a man who's like, I want to get you. I'm picking this out for you. It's my token of my love for you. Like, I'm like, what are you, a girl?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, it's our thing. Fuck off. Like, is it. I think that's weird.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I feel like that's kind of new thing. Men jewelry Pros to women all the time. No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, back in the day, they didn't surprise propose. It was all heirlooms. Like, now rings are so customizable, right? Everybody has, like, a shape that they like and a band that they like, and they like halos. Like, no, you can't compare it to back in the day because most jewelry was, like, passed down. You didn't have a choice. Like, now it's such an industry, and everybody, like, it's a thing. You're, like, kind of raised to, like, have a dream ring and a dream wedding. Like, I think a man who's insisting on him designing and choosing it, like, okay, why? I don't like that. Especially, like, it should be up to the girl. Like, if she wants to have a say, then she gets a say. If she doesn't want to have a saying, she wants to be genuinely surprised. Like, he can go ask her mom or her friends. You know, I think this. I think, like, the real issue here is the communication, not the ring. And so I. I feel like maybe you needed someone to tell you that, like, that's a really, like, gross way to be spoken to, especially about something so joyful.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I. I would look into that honestly, before anything else. All right. Hey. Hey, Gargy. Party girls. I need some help with an awkward situation I experienced this week. I go to bed quite early because of my work schedule, and my boyfriend, whom I live with, goes to bed much later than me. The other night, I was trying to sleep, and I kept hearing a strange noise. I tracked it to our garage, and when I opened the door, I found my boyfriend sitting there singing extremely loud. Obviously, I startled him, but he got so weird about it. I kept asking what he was doing, and he finally told me that sometimes he just feels like singing. He doesn't want to wake me up, so he does it in the garage. Is this strange behavior? Am I the one being weird about it? I also like to sing, and he has a great voice. But singing in the garage at night is weird, right? Thanks, girlies. Love you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's weird and cute, and it could either.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's not weird.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Marry this man. The cutest, most pure hobby. Or, like, you could, you know, it could be not. Not good.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. I'm sorry. This is really sweet. Like, he's obviously embarrassed that, like, singing is something he, like, has a passion for, because, like, that's, you know, in this day and age.

[Jacqueline Foley]

What are you, Troy Bolton?

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, it's like, what are you, gay? Like, that's what you say about Boys who sing. Like, so he's been. Man, he has been, you know, beaten down by the patriarchy and he has to hide his feelings. And I'm sorry. This man is so sweet. If you don't marry him, I will. Like, I love him. It is sweet. And, and by the way, it's also considerate. Like, going into the garage, you're asleep. And you know what? If I had a partner who went to bed at like 6:00 and I didn't go to bed till like 10, like, I'll be so bored. Yeah. I might start singing in the garage too.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, that's really cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I love it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

He's not like, covering up for something else, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, but she, she caught him. Like, if he was covering up, if he was, you know, burying a body, he would be. He was singing, so it's so cute. I actually could cry. It's so cute. I love him. I have. For the first time, I have nothing bad to say about your man. Like, marry him.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. And marry this man to come out of the garage. Like, why can't he sing during the day? Why doesn't he.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Encourage him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Encourage him to sing in the light. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Let him know it's okay. And you love to hear his voice.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love that. That's.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's actually made to feel like he has to sing in the garage.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. You should, like, sign him up for an open mic. Yeah. This is his dream.

[Jacqueline Foley]

What's his dream? To sing in the garage?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, to, like sing. So sign him up for, like an open mic in a local pub.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, that's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Help him. No, I love him so much. Like, we need to, like, whenever a man has, like a sweet hobby, like, we need to, like, harness and protect that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Except for that guy last week who wrote it about his husband, like, who does stand up comedy. And he stings.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, don't harness that. Don't protect.

[Claudia Oshry]

Don't. Yeah, don't protect. All right, our third and final. Hey, girly swirly whirly pops. I'm in a dilemma and I need your help. I always go to bed before my boyfriend. He doesn't come up to bed until hours later and I'm already asleep. The other night he came to bed.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I'm still awake.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, the other night he came to bed. I was still awake, just laying there, so he thought I was asleep. He went on my side of the bed, crouched down and got on my phone. I have nothing to hide, so I let him go through it. It had been over Five minutes. So I finally said, what are you doing on my phone? He replied, I'm just checking to make sure you set your alarm. I let it go and went to bed. But the next morning, I checked my screen time and it showed. He was on my messages and my call app for over two minutes each. I confronted him. He said it must have been a mistake. Now I'm wondering how often he's checking my alarm. Should I keep pushing it or let it go?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Dirty dog.

[Claudia Oshry]

Dirty dog. Good thoughts. Checking your screen time.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Icky.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Checking your alarm.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's a boyfriend or a husband?

[Claudia Oshry]

Boyfriend.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Goodbye.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

If you don't have trust, you have nothing. He doesn't trust.

[Claudia Oshry]

Look at you. He doesn't trust you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And now you can't trust him because he, bold face, lied to you. He's gotta go. And you know, I'm not the one to put push the eject button. That is so scary.

[Claudia Oshry]

He doesn't trust you, which is like half of the red flag, but the other half is the fact that you confronted him and he straight up lied. Like, you have proof.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You've got. You don't got it, sis.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sometimes I'll wake up and Ben is on my phone, like in the middle of the night, standing above me. And he's always putting the sound machine on. Ben can't have enough. We have the hatch on Ben's phone. Sound machine. And then when it's not enough for him, sometimes he puts mine on.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That is crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that's what wakes me up. Like the sudden addition of a new sound machine.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Sorry. That's not crazy that he puts the sound machine on that. I'm back at the.

[Claudia Oshry]

The girl. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Crouching on your phone for five minutes.

[Claudia Oshry]

And he's also just, like, in the business. He's in the business of, like, sneaking around, lying, snooping. Like, all of it is bad. All of it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

All of it.

[Claudia Oshry]

How dumb does he think you are?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Unless, like, he's like, maybe, maybe accidentally sent you a text leaving you love notes. Maybe he accidentally send you a text that was like a big surprise about your engagement. So he went on your phone to delete it and then, you know, maybe got a little interested.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would go back like a couple of weeks and see if your phone gets screen time while you're asleep. Any other nights? Was this the first time or the last time? Yeah, because he won't do it now that he knows you're on Tim. So see if your phone saves your screen time data for, like, weeks. See if he.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Unless there's like, a good reason for this. Like, he's planning a surprise party. He accidentally texted you something. If he's really like, snooping in the middle of the night on your phone, like, that's when your relationship is gone. If you can't trust your partner.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so true. No. And like, you're, you know, you're whispering in dark alleys like, no. Yeah, it's bad. I'm giving this a terminal diagnosis.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. I'm sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

This relationship is cooked.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's just a boyfriend.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Yeah. It's one of many in your life. Don't worry about it. That's our show. That's your toasters. If you guys want to write in, please. We would love to hear from you. Thank you so much for listening to the toast and Monday morning show. We Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So for watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. Leave this video. Thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere. Literally anywhere podcasts can be found. So it's Spotify itunes, citro public. I already cast box other places where we listen to podcasts. My not so toasty but five star we have beautiful setting in.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Love ya. Bye.