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Claudia Oshry
Good morning, millennials.
Jackie Oshry
Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. I could sing, but I won't because I value my business.
Claudia Oshry
What do you mean? Our business is singing.
Jackie Oshry
It's Friday.
Claudia Oshry
Oh. You could sing a different song.
Jackie Oshry
I could, but there's really no other song worth singing. On a day such as today, I.
Claudia Oshry
Feel like there are songs that would capture the moment beautifully.
Jackie Oshry
Feeling so conflicted about this.
Claudia Oshry
Celebrate good times.
Jackie Oshry
Come on, let's celebrate. Now I'm feeling conflicted. Cuz, obviously, like, you never want to be ungrateful for a Friday, right?
Claudia Oshry
But.
Jackie Oshry
But literally I'm sleeping and I wake up and it's Saturday. Like, I spent the first 20 minutes of today thinking it was Saturday and.
Claudia Oshry
You'Re unproperly oriented and I actually could.
Jackie Oshry
Cry, like, how upset I am. Like, it's really crazy how it fucked me up.
Claudia Oshry
I'm really sorry to hear that. I've been there before. I actually think I was experiencing this last week where it was a Friday and I was like, I know I'm supposed to be grateful, but, like, I'm.
Jackie Oshry
I was screaming at you to be grateful.
Claudia Oshry
I'm improperly oriented and, like, that's not my fault.
Jackie Oshry
And it seems like we just need.
Claudia Oshry
To have orientation, you know, today's orientation because it's Friday. And I. And I do feel like we're missing, you know, one day we're gonna look back on this day and be like, we didn't even appreciate that we were. It was Friday.
Jackie Oshry
I know. I guess because, like, next weekend is like the longest weekend ever with Thanksgiving, and I'm so excited for it. So maybe it's like this little weekend today also.
Claudia Oshry
It's like, one day we'll look back on this Friday and wish we appreciated it. Technically, that would be on Monday. That will feel that way. But, like, Monday of next week is a Thursday.
Jackie Oshry
Okay. It's also really important to know, like, one day we will look back on today and this is totally separate, but we're going to be like, oh, my God, we were so skinny. And like, I'm just sitting here thinking, like, how fat I am. So that's important too.
Claudia Oshry
That's true.
Jackie Oshry
That's important too. That's what we call here at the toast perspective.
Claudia Oshry
That's so true. It's always. Remember. It's always good to remember that, like, you can be bigger and you probably will be bigger.
Jackie Oshry
No, no. Not only that, but, like, your current body that you hate is also future use goal body, you know?
Claudia Oshry
So true.
Jackie Oshry
I just. Okay, so, like, I was Just looking at pictures from our Utah trip last year. And that was like right after I got off of OIC and I went on like a little bit of like not a bender, but I like treated myself for like a month and I didn't weigh myself. And then I had weighed myself and I had gained four pounds. And I was so upset. I was like, everybody's looking. They can see the £4 on me. And I just remember like hating my body. And I just was looking at a video of me singing to the kids in Utah and I'm perfect looking. Like I'm so mad. And I didn't even enjoy it.
Claudia Oshry
It's true.
Jackie Oshry
Oh my God. So that's just womanhood.
Claudia Oshry
That is womanhood.
Jackie Oshry
Enjoy today, Nate's personhood.
Claudia Oshry
Enjoy what we have. And it is true that this is like our last full week until two weeks from now. But we have.
Jackie Oshry
So this is our last full week tomorrow.
Claudia Oshry
We have so much goodness coming up, like so much goodness on the horizon. And it's Friday. Like we don't even have to convince ourselves, like, next week is the best week of the year.
Jackie Oshry
It's the best week of the year. I'm seeing wicked. I'm seeing the Thanksgiving Day parade. I'm so excited for my Thanksgiving plans. Even though we're not spending Thanksgiving giving together.
Claudia Oshry
And you would think like, oh, it's the best week of the year. The following is going to be hard because it's not the best week of the year. But then next week we're together. It's jizz.
Jackie Oshry
No.
Claudia Oshry
In Hollywood, Florida, we're performing at the Hard Rock Seminole Casino Stadium, not stadium, arena. And it's going to be amazing.
Jackie Oshry
You know, we haven't really bragged about it yet and that's be annoying, but if there's like a toaster in your life, I feel like this time of year, like to get your friend like toasty something toast related for Christmas actually have a lot of options. Obviously merch is always good, but tickets to Jizzno, that's a great gift. If you're in the Florida area. A Patreon gift card, you can buy someone a month of Patreon. An annual gift card of patreon, you save 10% when you buy the annual one. Like there's a lot of toast related gifts out there. Not to be like self promo, but you know, this is a business. Sorry.
Claudia Oshry
Also if you don't live in the area, like might we suggest a girly swirly weekend to come to Gisno because the hotel might wait the Hotel that we're performing at is so cool. And it's a guitar. It's shaped like a guitar. There is a casino, restaurants, like, you're. It's Florida in December. Party licious weather. Like, come on down.
Jackie Oshry
I already came up with my Instagram caption for, like, the picture I take.
Claudia Oshry
I heard.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Because I was thinking one of my favorite Taylor lyrics, like, to ruminate on these days is lost the game of chance. What are the chances? And I was actually a good capture for, like, a swirly who goes to Vegas. And I put it on my Instagram. I was like, listen, I can't go to Vegas anytime soon. I'm not going to be in, like, partying it up at a casino. So if one of you wants his caption, you can have it. And then everybody was like, turdy Jizno was at a casino. And I totally forgotten. So take it back. You can't use my caption. That's what I'm using.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I'm going to be using. I don't know, something about the. Something about the jizz.
Jackie Oshry
I think you got a little jizz on your leg. That's a good caption.
Claudia Oshry
I got a little chiz in my heart.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Jackie jizzed all over my heart.
Claudia Oshry
Right? And we're going to jizz all over your hearts. I just know Holiday Spectacular, it's going.
Jackie Oshry
To be a jizz fest.
Claudia Oshry
If we ever do, like, a show with an opener or something, like more than one performer, it'll be jizz fest called Girl. Just.
Jackie Oshry
We'll just make Margot or Olivia come out and, like, talk for five minutes so we can call it Jizz fest.
Claudia Oshry
So just know. Holiday Spectacular, December 8th, Hard Rock Casino. Get your tickets. You are not going to want to miss this. It's kind of like the talk of the town.
Jackie Oshry
I'm also really excited to come stay at your house because I know you've been shopping a lot at Home Goods, and I feel like there's new things waiting for me. Like, different just, like, activities. Like, I'm just excited. And I know you got a cold plunge, and Ben is so excited about it.
Claudia Oshry
That's the big major update is that I got a cold plunge because, as I told you, I'm working on, like, my garden. I'm doing, like, a Zen garden. And I've got a cold plunge from Sun Home Saunas. And I'm so excited because our husbands and you. But I guess you'll be taking a break from plunging.
Jackie Oshry
But, like, oh, can you not?
Claudia Oshry
I mean, you probably could but like.
Jackie Oshry
No, I don't even like it when I'm not pregnant. Right. I don't want, like, it's not for me. Ben is obsessed.
Claudia Oshry
Our husbands are obsessed. I actually like got it as a gift for my husband and for myself. But I could like, pretend to be selfless. Sun home samas, like, have the best cold plunges. They also have saunas. And so now I'm like, I would assume, do I need a sauna?
Jackie Oshry
I would assume that sun home sauna also makes saunas.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, no, they're the best in class. They actually gave me a code to share with everyone. Code is the toast for 300 off. If you want to give someone a sauna or a cold plunge this holiday season.
Jackie Oshry
I feel like you reach a certain level in like your content creator career when you get a cold plunge in your house. Like, it's giving the ball sticks.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, yeah. I gotta put like my hair has one, my hair up in my claw clip. Just do like a morning plunge by the.
Jackie Oshry
It's really a great way to start your day. I actually asked Dr. Fox about it. Like, what, what he thinks of, like the science behind it. He said it personally. That's not something he engages in, but he understands like, you know, the benefits. And Ben was like, really trying to get him. I'm like, ben, he's a doctor. Please. Like, Ben was like, no, no, you got to try, Dr. Fox.
Claudia Oshry
No, the benefits are just like, they're so obvious. Like, it's just an obvious good thing for your body, like the, the natural adrenaline, all of it. So I'm really looking for. I'm kind of like, maybe going to be a new person once I start like my daily plunge before the toast.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Once she gets her garden up and running, her cold plunge and her sauna set up, it is over for you.
Claudia Oshry
But the thing is, like, the cold plunge is right around the corner. We just have to like plug it in the garden. Like, okay, we're not going to have fresh herbs for a while. Okay. It's, it's, it's moving slowly.
Jackie Oshry
That's actually really.
Claudia Oshry
But the plunge is here and I'm gonna have it plugged in for Ben for when he comes.
Jackie Oshry
It's not very clean of you. You're not having. Serving your family fresh herbs.
Claudia Oshry
So here's the thing. It's not even about cleanliness. The store bought herbs are fine. The issue is when I buy herbs, I don't use them and they go bad. And when I need herbs, I don't have herbs. So I Do need herbs off the vine? I just do.
Jackie Oshry
I have a problem with herbs. I'm glad we brought this up, because Ben loves herbs. Like, he is always buying, and he goes to the grocery store and he puts them all in one, like, you know, of the plastic bags. And if I'm ever using herbs, which, like, I'm not. So this problem doesn't happen to me a lot. How one is supposed to differentiate one herb from another when they're not in packaging or anything, they're just all thrown in a bag. That's why if you have a little garden and you could put, like, little signs, like, where you put the leaves that actually, I understand. Because all herbs look the same. Like, you want to tell me you know the difference between rosemary and thyme? No, you don't.
Claudia Oshry
Well, there's two ways to know. One, you could smell them.
Jackie Oshry
I wouldn't know the difference.
Claudia Oshry
Smell check. Also, my grocery store, like, has a bundle of herbs that you could buy or you could buy, like, a little package.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. But the package, like, that's really not fresh.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, you think? No, I think it's fresh. They go bad in, like, two seconds. And then also, it's like, if you really want to preserve your herbs, like, put them in a sealed container. I get targeted with that guy. Do you ever see that guy on Instagram? He's like, here's how to store your herbs. And then, like, how to take one herb, plant it in a little.
Jackie Oshry
I do not.
Claudia Oshry
Plant it in a little planter. And you could have rosemary forever.
Jackie Oshry
No, I've never seen him.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I'm always, like, saving his videos. Let me ask me how many times I've gone back.
Jackie Oshry
Never yet to never return. You know what I think of when I think of, like, the classic herbs? I wonder if you're going to guess. I feel like you're not, like, somebody from our childhood.
Claudia Oshry
The classic herbs.
Jackie Oshry
Like, when you think of parsley, sage, rosemary.
Claudia Oshry
Now when I think of parsley, I think of Taylor Swift.
Jackie Oshry
Taylor Swift? No. One of the songs we learned to play, like, at the. Jackie and I were in piano lessons, like, from the day we were born, like, till we were 16. Like, seriously, some of the worst days of my life. And the classic song, I feel like we all learned it at first was Scarborough Fair. Are you going to Scarborough Fair? Parsley, sage, rosemary in thyme. She was a true love of mine. Are you familiar with the Scarborough Fair?
Claudia Oshry
I'm affiliated familiar with the first lyric. The rest is, like, totally. You experience. That's not like, I'm not like, oh, yeah, I remember.
Jackie Oshry
Let me see if I just made that.
Claudia Oshry
No, you didn't make it up. But the reason why I think that resonates more with you is I think we learned that on the guitar. And you took more guitar lessons than I did because I remember our guitar teacher singing Scarborough Fair because our piano teacher wasn't singing.
Jackie Oshry
And by the way, do you know that Scarborough Fair is a traditional English ballad? It's like, what they used to sing, like, on a boat. You know, like a sea shanty. Oh, my God. I know. A seashant. I'm literally so cultured.
Claudia Oshry
That is seriously so funny. And I can see our guitar teacher singing that song.
Jackie Oshry
Okay. And I also got the wrong word. Words wrong. Where are you going? To Scarborough Fair. Savory sage. Jackie. Savory sage. Rosemary and thyme. Mine was better. Parsley Sage.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Throw an extra herb. But the thing about sea shanties is that they evolve, right?
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
They're kind of like, they're written, they're spoken word. It changes.
Jackie Oshry
Spoken word. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Do you want to know? I did something crazy last night.
Jackie Oshry
Crack, actually.
Claudia Oshry
Crazier.
Jackie Oshry
Meth.
Claudia Oshry
I feel like when I watch something really random on tv, that's like, you never would expect me to watch, like, craziest thing. She seriously so crazy. You wonder what I watched last night?
Jackie Oshry
Porn.
Claudia Oshry
Kind of closed.
Jackie Oshry
Tell me lies.
Claudia Oshry
No, I watched the Ashley Madison documentary. Have you. Have you heard about it?
Jackie Oshry
I have. I've almost started it on Netflix a couple of times, but it's a tough sell to Ben. He's like, what?
Claudia Oshry
No, no, no. Like, don't watch it with your husband. It would be, like, weird to do that because.
Jackie Oshry
Give him ideas.
Claudia Oshry
Like, kind of. Because in the beginning, they're, like, making the case that, like, infidelity is. It's just nothing. It'll save your relationship. And then actually, it's good for them to watch because they could see how, like, you'll regret the day you ever did.
Jackie Oshry
But so funny.
Claudia Oshry
I'm actually. I'm almost through with the third and final episode, and I'm really enjoying it. I remember when it happened, and it was a big deal, but, like, it was the biggest deal. And also, who do you think of when you think of the Ashley Madison scandal? Like, who's the person that comes to mind?
Jackie Oshry
Kristen Takeman, 100%.
Claudia Oshry
And I'm like, they keep talking about how, like, oh, celebrities and powerful people.
Jackie Oshry
By the way, that was the craziest part. People sifting through the clients.
Claudia Oshry
Claudia, there are a couple Other names that they shared that I didn't remember hit me. Snooki's husband.
Jackie Oshry
Okay. So I actually knew that, and I was not going to share it because I love Snooki and, like, I think she has a good marriage and whatever. Like, whatever they do behind closed doors is none of my business. So I was going to say that, but I didn't want to love her.
Claudia Oshry
I ride for telling the perspective of, like, this Christian YouTuber who, like, his whole career was taken down because he was on Ashley Madison. And when he was first exposed, he told his wife, like, I signed up. I never met anyone. I never did anything. It was just, like, a curiosity. And that's, like, why my email is there. And, like, she forgave him really quickly. And then it turns out, like, that's not what a second family. I don't know. I haven't gotten to the part where they tell us, like, what he actually did, but I think it's, like, crazy. And so I think that actually might have been what happened with Snooki's husband where, like, maybe, like, they were advertising everywhere, like, curiosity and that. Like, I could see that being a forgivable offense. Another name else? Hunter Biden.
Jackie Oshry
I feel like on the list of things, it's, like, really not a big deal. Like, I saw a video of him with, like, a gun and, like, a cracked. And it was. I was obsessed.
Claudia Oshry
And a booty got a party.
Jackie Oshry
Got a party with Hunter. Like, to me, that's honestly, like, one of the more normal things, you know?
Claudia Oshry
I know. But for me, like, Josh Takeman will never disassociate from Ashley Madison. And, like, the fact that Hunter Biden sort of, like, eclipsed.
Jackie Oshry
Well, maybe if Josh Tman was, like, doing crack with prostitutes and, like, holding guns at the same time, that wouldn't be the craziest thing that he's ever done. But, like, it's the crazy. He was also just, like, a family man. Like, it was. And she was on TV at that time. So I understand why he got more flack than Hunter Biden.
Claudia Oshry
Honestly, like, I really understand fall for the whole thing.
Jackie Oshry
For the entire thing.
Claudia Oshry
37 million users, and I only remember Kristen Takeman's husband.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God. That's, like, actually not funny. They had, like, little kids, but they're still together, though.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Anyone else? I actually don't know. I don't think so.
Claudia Oshry
Those were, like, the names that I knew. And then there were some people. Someone was, like, a state prosecutor. There were 15 million.mil and.gov email addresses.
Jackie Oshry
Wait, what's Stop Mill?
Claudia Oshry
Military, like, members and then also.
Jackie Oshry
Okay, government work. What about. What about Edu, like, professor?
Claudia Oshry
Well, there's one professor whose, like, story they're telling. And before he even told his wife, he committed suicide.
Jackie Oshry
Oi.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I don't even know what, like, what he did on there. Oh, he was not only a professor, he was like a deacon. He was in like a ministry.
Jackie Oshry
They are still married, Josh and Kristen Takeman. He was very handsome.
Claudia Oshry
So also, I want to know, like, did they ever. Maybe it's in the documentary. I haven't gotten there. Did they ever find out who hacked it? Because the hackers, like, they hacked it and then they told the company, like, they didn't. They told the company privately, like, just, if you don't end this site, I will release all this data. They had 30 days to end the site, but the founder would not. He wanted to take the company public. He was like, right. They were very like, mission oriented.
Jackie Oshry
And the mission of the website was for just consenting adults to begin affairs.
Claudia Oshry
Oh. It was all married people, married men and married women.
Jackie Oshry
But it wasn't swingers. It was to have affairs.
Claudia Oshry
To have affairs. Like, really just like physical, sexual. Like people who don't want to leave leave their wise. They just want like something on the side.
Jackie Oshry
Sex.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
It's not so bad.
Claudia Oshry
No, it's. They make you feel that way when they're like. They're like, life's short. Have an affair.
Jackie Oshry
Right.
Claudia Oshry
But no. And I'm now coming to the crux of it. So I'm really curious if they ever found out who did it. I'll find out later tonight.
Jackie Oshry
That does sound good. If you didn't just spoil the whole thing for me. Like, actually I would watch because.
Claudia Oshry
Because I didn't know, like, the details and even the rollout at first it was like the whole world was waiting to see if they would drop the database. They knew it was hacked. They knew they were threatening it.
Jackie Oshry
And then, oh, my God, those, like, couple of days where Josh Takeman was like, waiting for his email to drop. Like, I'm sure where some of the darkest stuff is.
Claudia Oshry
And so first they dropped, like, the email addresses. So, like, if you had an account, like, you had to tell your partner. But you could say, like, that YouTuber did, like, I just had an account, but I never did anything. Then they drop like, photos and the founder's email. And then I think after that they drop like, people's like, messages and connections. Just nightmare.
Jackie Oshry
Yikes. Oh, my God. That sounds Good.
Claudia Oshry
It was good. It was exactly like what I. I was just looking for something like that.
Jackie Oshry
Was like our version of, like, WikiLeaks, you know?
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Like reality stars and their husbands on ashleymadison.com so crazy.
Claudia Oshry
What a crazy time. It was like kind of right before our time. Right before.
Jackie Oshry
I actually remember I was in high school when it happened because that was when Kristen Takeman was on.
Claudia Oshry
I don't think she was on the show. I don't think she really was 20. It was 2015 or 27.
Jackie Oshry
Before or after her tenure?
Claudia Oshry
I think was after. She never, like, addressed it on the show. Ashley? I don't think so.
Jackie Oshry
Missed opportunity.
Claudia Oshry
2015. So you're in college?
Jackie Oshry
I was in college, yeah. Okay, never mind.
Claudia Oshry
And was she on the show? I don't know.
Jackie Oshry
It's Friday. We also have Queenie and Weenie. Did you. Were you able to come up with a Queenie?
Claudia Oshry
And we need easily. How about you?
Jackie Oshry
Me too. Me too. Like, super easily. Obviously. Weenie came to me in my sleep overnight. Yeah. Oh, you did? Actually, my weenie is like a. Is multiple people, but, like, from the same organization.
Claudia Oshry
The cmas.
Jackie Oshry
No, actually.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, really?
Jackie Oshry
They were like, you know, they were.
Claudia Oshry
Contenders, but no, they're contenders. For me, it'll be a last minute, you know, winner by a hair situation.
Jackie Oshry
You feel in 30, 40 minutes.
Claudia Oshry
And maybe someone will come up today. Actually, someone might come up today in our first story.
Jackie Oshry
Do we have a story about Mark Ruffalo?
Claudia Oshry
No.
Jackie Oshry
Do we?
Claudia Oshry
Are we supposed to?
Jackie Oshry
No. But if someone's coming up as a weenie, the odds are it's Mark Ruffalo.
Claudia Oshry
No. He's like an emergency lever when all else fails. Yes.
Jackie Oshry
On a down week.
Claudia Oshry
Mark Ruffalo.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. I'm ready to dive in if you are.
Claudia Oshry
As am I. Without further ado to do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.
Jackie Oshry
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Claudia Oshry
Thank you yet.
Jackie Oshry
Welcome.
Claudia Oshry
Our first story. I know you're going to be excited to talk about this because the Wicked promo is continuing and Ari and Cynthia have hit a bit of a snag. Some people are calling out. Actually, one X user called this out. It's really taking the Internet by storm because they sat down for an interview and people have been left baffled by a bizarrely emotional exchange between Cynthia Revoir and the reporter. So this is what was said. I'll do my best to make it make sense.
Jackie Oshry
No, you can't. Yeah, because it doesn't.
Claudia Oshry
So they were in an interview and the reporter says this to Cynthia about defying gravity. She said, I've seen this week people are taking the lyrics of defying gravity and really holding space with that and feeling power in that. And then Cynthia said she.
Jackie Oshry
And then there's like this chill in the room and it's silent. And Cynthia literally, she actually clutches.
Claudia Oshry
She puts her hand to her chest and she said.
Jackie Oshry
And she is just seriously bereft. I don't even know what the word is. She can't even speak. Like she actually has a tremor in her voice and she's like, I didn't.
Claudia Oshry
I didn't know that was happening. And she.
Jackie Oshry
What was happening?
Claudia Oshry
Interviewer goes, I've seen it. Yeah. And Cynthia said, that's really powerful. That's what I wanted. So just to go back.
Jackie Oshry
That's not what she said, Jackie. That's not what she said. She said this. That's really powerful. Is she British?
Claudia Oshry
I guess so, yeah.
Jackie Oshry
She is. Right? That's really powerful. And then she goes, seriously, like she sounded like a three year old. That's exactly what I wanted.
Claudia Oshry
And just to go back to what? Exactly what she want. I'm just gonna read the original line. Yeah, right. I've seen this week people are taking the lyrics of defying gravity and really holding space with that and feeling power in that. And so then a person on X clipped this and said, I'm completely mesmerized by this clip. It's almost like they are speaking a language I don't understand. I can't catch the sense of It. For a single moment, I'm not understanding the words or the feelings or the energy at all. It's amazing. Like, yes. What did you. What is what you wanted?
Jackie Oshry
No, no, there is no verb. Like, there's no action in what the interview said. Holding. And by the way, it's so important to. To know. Defying Gravity is a song sung by a witch who's, like, escaping on her broom. Like, it's not a relatable song. Like, I seriously. Theater people. And this is really, for me, emblematic of how insufferable theater people are and how seriously they take themselves. And I'm actually getting Ann, because this is really making me, like, hate the movie. And I'm sorry. Ariana's guilty too. Like, the both of them, like, the level of drama, holding her hand, holding their hand, clutching. And it's just like that 10th interview where they've cried, like, and they have not once, in my opinion, cried over something that was worth crying over. Like, the. I actually am getting annoyed with these two.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I can't watch the interviews. It's. It's, like, way too emotional over, like, it's a movie. Like, come on.
Jackie Oshry
About a witch.
Claudia Oshry
Come on.
Jackie Oshry
She was a witch. Her sister was a witch.
Claudia Oshry
What I like about this, it's like, I feel like she actually asked that or said that statement, like, the perfect person. Because imagine if you said that to someone that was like, me.
Jackie Oshry
What now imagine, like, you seriously said to. Oh, Brian Cox, the dad from Succession. Brian, I see that people are taking a lot of the lines from the final episode of Succession and holding space for them with that and feeling power and finding power.
Claudia Oshry
Power.
Jackie Oshry
He would literally fuck off. Like, I. I actually can't. And I think that it's reflective of the culture of, like, theater kids and how seriously they take themselves. And, like, at the end of the day, it's real. And I'm so excited for the movie. I've heard it is incredible. It's really, really, really, really, like, of the utmost importance that we all just collectively take a minute to remember that, like, this is a fake, fictional movie that takes place in a fictional land. And it has, like, little people and witches. Like, it's not real.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And I think it's good. Like, I see that this is a referendum on theater kids, but for me, like, it's a referendum on the way that we speak. And things have gotten to a tipping point. Like, this is the ultimate word salad. And I feel like people have been getting away with saying things like that that don't mean anything. And we're calling it out. And I like that. And I think we need more of that.
Jackie Oshry
I like that, too, because that is what you've been saying for a while. Like, the way people talk has completely lost its meaning. And it's just like, words, word salads. And these words don't even, like, these phrases holding space.
Claudia Oshry
And we've been, like, making fun of holding space for so long. And, like, now I'm trying to, like, now you guys see why? Because it's a meaningless phrase that's taking the meaning out of language.
Jackie Oshry
And I actually think that these two with their, like, insane marketing are actually starting to negatively impact the film.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
And I. I started to feel that, like, a week ago. But this really obviously crosses a new line for me. A boundary that I just. I personally can't get past. But I think that it would be in the best interest of the film and the budget and the movie ratings if everybody just went home now.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. But you know what? It's like, it's crazy. We'll look back on this as, like, this marketing period. It's like kind of like Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga pretending they're in love. Or like, when two people fall in love on the set of a movie like, that they, you know, market that this is some sort of, like, press strategy for the movie. Like, marketing this, like, best friendship, like, but to an emotional, like, insane degree.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
And I think for. In the beginning, it was really strong because, like, it's really like when two main characters are, like, in a relationship from a movie, and it's like, oh, well, you could feel the love. So it's like, oh, we are feeling the love and feeling the love. But, like, this has become psychotic. Of course.
Jackie Oshry
No, and at its core, at the beginning of, like, them, oh, they had said that they were only doing press together, that they really did not want to fall into that sort of, like, stereotypical Hollywood trap where, like, two leading ladies, divas, hate each other and. And, like, works really hard on their friendship. And I actually really liked the whole concept of, like, them being so supportive of one another, being, like, true best friends doing all press together. So it's not like somebody has one moment and the other person doesn't. There's really two stars of this film. And I think that that was, like, actually a really nice thing that they did. They have taken it to such a psychotic unwell level. Like, I don't even give a anymore. I wish they hated each other. Yeah, I said it.
Claudia Oshry
And also, it's actually like, two main characters did fall in love in the movie, but you can't market that, can you? Ethan and Ari.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, right, right, right. I saw Gayle King was interviewing Cynthia Erivo, and she, like, brought up, obviously, like, the poster and, like, Gail, who is literally the opposite of Chronically Online, chronically Offline, if you will. She didn't even know what she was asking. She was like. And so the poster and Cynthia was like. It was. I actually probably felt, like, really awkward. She probably felt really silly in that moment. She's, like, talking to Gayle King and she goes. You know, that was just like. Like a human moment. Like, okay, is that what we're calling it?
Claudia Oshry
I like that.
Jackie Oshry
A human moment. Yeah. That's like, when you're, like. Like, you, like, fucked up human moment.
Claudia Oshry
I like that. Anyways, the movie is out. I do hear it's amazing.
Jackie Oshry
I hear there's, like, big spoiler things. I'm trying really hard. Like, I like that they released it a week before Thanksgiving, so, like, the sooner the better. But I wanted to see it on Thanksgiving, like, because I have the whole week off, and I'm actively avoiding spoilers, and I'll be so annoyed if I spoil something for myself.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. So hopefully this is coming to an end soon. The bad news is that there is part two coming out next year. So, like, this time next year, we'll be having the same conversation.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, God.
Claudia Oshry
Maybe by then they'll get. They'll get into a fight and they'll give us something new to talk about.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, we need to all, like, collectively start planting seeds to make Ariana and Cynthia hate each other.
Claudia Oshry
Because they can't keep doing this.
Jackie Oshry
No. It's not sustainable for the culture.
Claudia Oshry
They've been, like, doing this duo press junket, like, since the Met gala. They walked, like, the carpet together, and we have Olympics. We have another movie in a year. So, like, are they gonna spend the next. They're gonna spend the next year. No, I feel like they're gonna go to MCAU again. Like, they're just gonna keep doing this for a whole year.
Jackie Oshry
Well, I've had enough. Just not if anyone cares. Like, I don't know if they do. I've had.
Claudia Oshry
I, Like, I had checked out. I watched a couple of stuff in the beginning. Iq, you know, Ari doesn't really do a lot of talking.
Jackie Oshry
It's like.
Claudia Oshry
So I watched from the podcast and, like, the lie. Det. And then I jump back in on this, and it's enough. It's too much. D. Are you ready for our Next story, some crazy Jesse justice news.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God. This is the story that never dies.
Claudia Oshry
Jesse Sm.
Jackie Oshry
Just smolet.
Claudia Oshry
Smell it.
Jackie Oshry
Jesse Smollett, I think. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
What do we call. What's his name?
Jackie Oshry
We call him Juicy Somalia because that's what Dave Chappelle called him. His name is Jesse Smollett.
Claudia Oshry
Okay, I.
Jackie Oshry
But we've, like, larped him so many. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
I'm like, what's his actual name? I'm looking at it. Jesse Smollett. I think it's Jesse Smollet.
Jackie Oshry
No, I don't think you're making him French like it's Smollett.
Claudia Oshry
Maybe Dave Chappelle made him Smollet. Oh, he says, you see Somalier, Juicy Smollet.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Seriously, One of the best Dave Chappelle jokes on the planet.
Claudia Oshry
Jesse Smollett's conviction overturned an alleged hate crime hoax. So I have to read the whole thing because it's like, that sounds like he got off the hook with the.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, he what? It makes it seem like it wasn't a hoax.
Claudia Oshry
He really was hate crimes.
Jackie Oshry
Victim of a hate crime.
Claudia Oshry
But no. His conviction in the alleged hate crime hoax was overturned on Thursday by the Illinois Supreme Court. So Jussie was convicted in December 2021 of five felony counts of disorderly conduct for allegedly staging a hate crime against himself in 2019 and was sentenced to 150 days in county jail, plus 30 months of probation and 130k in restitution. This came after the original charges against him were dropped in March 2019. But the case was picked back up when the state conducted an independent inquiry with a special prosecutor. In December 2023, a state appellate court rejected his bid for an appeal, and it was ruled that he would have to complete his full sentence, six days of which he served before being freed pending appeal. Earlier this year, the Supreme Illinois Supreme Court agreed to hear his appeal. In an opinion by the Supreme Court released on Thursday, they found that the special prosecutor's decision to retry Jussie violated his rights. So that's what's been overturned.
Jackie Oshry
It's not about whether or not he.
Claudia Oshry
Did it, but the retrial.
Jackie Oshry
Because he did do it. Things he did that.
Claudia Oshry
Things.
Jackie Oshry
This is MAGA country.
Claudia Oshry
Things he did that he put out, like, a statement or there was a statement of his. Like a video of him, like, you know, adamantly saying how he didn't do it.
Jackie Oshry
He's so embarrassing. Like, seriously, if you guys haven't seen the Dave Chappelle, this is MAGA country. You absolutely have to Go watch it. It is the funniest and also, like, the realist breakdown of what happened. And I, like, I. Seriously. He's such a freak. He also needs to stop, like, appealing, because it keeps. Yeah. And, like, maybe there was a world in which if he had just, like.
Claudia Oshry
Shut up and, like, did the crime. Moved on.
Jackie Oshry
Six days.
Claudia Oshry
Six days. But no. And now I just. I feel the need to, like, you know, this doesn't mean that they're saying he didn't do it. They're saying, like, the way in which he was tried violated his rights on the retrial.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. This is like, a legal loophole.
Claudia Oshry
A legal loophole. His conviction was overturned. Asterisk.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, his. His conviction was overturned due to some bad legal advice, not due to the fact that he is innocent.
Claudia Oshry
Correct.
Jackie Oshry
I guess that was too long of a headline because when I saw this, I was shocked. I'm like, wait, is there new evidence? Like, was he actually. Because what he said happened to him was so horrible that, like, if there's any world in which it happened, like, it's hard, it's atrocious, but literally, it didn't happen.
Claudia Oshry
It's so crazy. That was such a crazy time.
Jackie Oshry
And to be honest, like, this is. He's an actor, like, the role of a lifetime for him. Because he will. To his grave.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Take. He will say that this happened to me. Like, we. He will never. This was. He has committed his method acting for life.
Claudia Oshry
But it's so crazy. Like, the guys literally said, like, that's our friend, and he paid us. And here's the check stub.
Jackie Oshry
Jackie. There's literally the check. Hi, I'm Jesse. And literally, there was a memo to Fake Beat Me up signed Juicy Smolier. Like, literally the worst criminal ever. Like, there was so much proof. The guys were like, yeah, we needed the money. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
They turned on him so fast.
Jackie Oshry
So it was. It was literally a week. That was one of the craziest weeks of my life. Like, I forget who the first person to, like, question it was, because nobody questioned what he said happened to him was so abhorrent. Like, no one was gonna be, like, are you sure? But then it became, like, abundantly clear. Like, so much wasn't adding up. Like, I. Like, I. We were actively. We were doing the toast. Like, we were in our old studio. That was so crazy.
Claudia Oshry
So crazy. And when you, like, the more I think about. I haven't sat with it in a while, that, like, I don't know, things maybe, like, were petering out in his career. Like, Maybe like it was a slow.
Jackie Oshry
But they weren't. Jackie. He was on Empire.
Claudia Oshry
Remember that show to be bigger than that. And so he's like sitting there thinking, like, how can I make a moment for Jesse self victim? And he calls his friends to beat.
Jackie Oshry
Him up outside of Subway. And then I remember the prosecutor was like, so you left your apartment at 2 in the morning to go to Subway? So much I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like 3 degree in the middle of Chicago. You went to Subway? Like, not even near your apartment in the middle of the night. Why?
Claudia Oshry
Right.
Jackie Oshry
No. Freak of the century. I do respect his commitment. Like, he can't ever, ever, ever admit that he.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
That he did that.
Claudia Oshry
Why couldn't he say it was a human moment? Yeah, yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Why didn't he say, what were you doing at Subway? Oh, I was holding space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity.
Claudia Oshry
I was eating fresh.
Jackie Oshry
It was also a bad moment for Subway. Like, everyone involved was just like getting taken down by Juicy Smelly.
Claudia Oshry
It's so true. And so we just need to, like, remind you that it. This doesn't change what he did.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. This doesn't change reality.
Claudia Oshry
It's just legalese.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Juicy being Juicy Juice gonna juice Juice. The juice ain't worth the squeeze, you know?
Claudia Oshry
Are you ready for our next story?
Jackie Oshry
I am.
Claudia Oshry
Cara Delevingne is talking about how she took Taylor Swift on a wild ride while living together after a really horrible breakup of Cars. So the model described what it was like to be the pop star's roommate while speaking to Nikki Glaser for an Interview magazine Q A published on Thursday. She said, I was going through a really horrible breakup and she let me live with her. She explained without naming which ex it was that she had broken up from, so that it doesn't matter for the.
Jackie Oshry
Context of the story.
Claudia Oshry
I don't know.
Jackie Oshry
I'm just curious.
Claudia Oshry
Anyway, she said, we're very different people. She's very homely because she looked after me so well. But we got into some not trouble. But I definitely took her for a bit of a wild ride. Just to get her to blush would be great. She also described the Lurd. She described the Lurd as one of the funniest people saying. The thing about Taylor, though, is I've seen her do a speech at someone's wedding before, and it was a roast. She's one of the funniest, most clever people. Anyone could roast her easily, but at the same time, she could fuck everyone up so hard.
Jackie Oshry
I guess this is the first time I'm actually like sitting back and thinking what unlikely friends these two are. Like, Cara is such like a bad gal. I mean, we all have seen that photo of the bag of coke flying out of her hands. Like, she's such a party girl. She's like a really, what's the word I'm looking for? Like a rowdy, loud party. And Taylor's sew the opposite. She like sews with her cats and makes baked home goods and wakes up at six in the morning and goes to work. Like, so the fact that these two are friends, I'm just now like for the first time realizing like how odd it is. And I can seriously never imagine them living together. Like, I feel like Cara's room would be like covered in like eyeliner.
Claudia Oshry
Like a tornadoes on the floor.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And Taylor is like in the kitchen cleaning up from baking fresh cookies.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. With, you know, eye patches under her eyes.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And like music in the background. Classical music.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. It's like a sitcom, honestly. But it is true. So they met at the 2013 Victoria's Secret Fashion show. And it's crazy. Like, Taylor's had a lot of friends in and out the door.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Since that time that they've remained especially.
Jackie Oshry
Like model friends like Martha Hunt, Lily Aldridge. Although I do think she's still like friendly with those two swirlies, but not enough that she would like open her doors to them Curly clerks.
Claudia Oshry
Girly, girly. So the fact that they've remained friends, like, is actually so crazy.
Jackie Oshry
And when they're also such an unlikely.
Claudia Oshry
Duo, actually no sense to me.
Jackie Oshry
I know. And also this thing where like Taylor houses her single friends is like the funniest thing. I, I, when I had read this, I thought like Taylor lent her like her London flag.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Not that they were like physically in the same place. I thought she would do what she did with Sophie Turner when Sophie needed to play slip, oh say my Tribeca loft with the girls. Like, and she gave her a place. But this. No, she really was like, you know, slumber party.
Claudia Oshry
Slumber party. I want to know more details when.
Jackie Oshry
For how long, which apartment. Yeah, I, I would.
Claudia Oshry
And also like, what was Taylor doing at that time? Like, was that during quiet before reputation era?
Jackie Oshry
Was it, was it with Travis?
Claudia Oshry
Like, I know. What was it like 1989?
Jackie Oshry
Like, what would, what do you think is Cara Delevingne's like, hardest breakup? Like, what was her most long term relationship?
Claudia Oshry
Was it Ashley or Michelle Rodriguez?
Jackie Oshry
Oh, yeah.
Claudia Oshry
And St. Vincent was another one, which.
Jackie Oshry
Was a while ago.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Maybe Ashley Benson. That was like, kind of recent.
Jackie Oshry
But that was a long relationship. Like, so that I think is where you would like, need to live with a friend.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. To be a fly on the wall.
Jackie Oshry
To be the housekeeper who comes in and cleans up. Like, that's, that's what I want to know.
Claudia Oshry
Are you ready for our next story? Number four one.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Jason Kelsey will be hosting a late night talk show for espn. Jason is joining the ranks of late night hosts as ESPN's newest front man of they call it Late Night with Jason Kelsey. Set to premiere in 2025. The Super bowl champ announced his new gig during an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live yesterday, saying the Philippine Philadelphia based late night talk show will debut in January. He said, I've loved late night shows. I've always loved them. I remember sleepovers, watching Conan with my friends. You sound like Claudia. He said, we're gonna have a bunch of guys up there, legends of the game, friends that I played the game with. Coaches, celebrities. The hour long show will tape on five consecutive Friday nights kick starting January 3rd. The date coincides with the last week of NFL's regular season and the playoffs. He said, it's going to be a celebration.
Jackie Oshry
Okay, I have something to say because I did see Jimmy Kimmel interviewing Jason Kelce and I don't, I don't think I've ever watched Jimmy Kimmel. So this was like my first foray into his interview style.
Claudia Oshry
You're much more of a found girl.
Jackie Oshry
I am, I am. And last night watching this was proof. I need Jimmy Kimmel to respectfully shut the fudge up. Oh my God. I've never seen somebody and I know this is like coming for me, but this is why I don't interview guests that much. He did not stop talking over Jason Kelsey, like, and he was asking him, like, what do you get for Taylor and Travis for Christmas? Like, oh my God, shut up. Why do you. Why do you ask a question if you don't let the person answer? Shut up.
Claudia Oshry
Like, he's talking, like, give him the Runway just to let him talk.
Jackie Oshry
I don't know if he was like overexcited like that he's a big Jason Kelsey fan or this is how he interviews people. But the fact that this man has a career is just like further proof that like in late night all you need to be is like unfunny and a man, like, that's all it takes to be like a late night legend. He was bothering the absolute fuck out of me, so I couldn't even focus on the story. At hand, I was just focusing on Jimmy Kimmel's like, lack of talent, which was distracting and because it's huge. But then, you know, now I can think about the story. I like this. I just am like a little worried about Jason Kelsey.
Claudia Oshry
Overexposure.
Jackie Oshry
Overexposure. But also like, you know, doing a weekly podcast. A weekly. Like you don't want to run out of things to talk about. You know, you want to start telling the same story. It's like I just worry a little bit.
Claudia Oshry
That's I agree. However, I think so far, like, we're still copacetic because like talking with your swirly brother once a week is one vibe. And then when he's doing his late night show, it's going to be about other people, it's going to be about the game, it's going to be a.
Jackie Oshry
Well, hopefully he doesn't take a book out of Jimmy Kimmel's interviewing skills and.
Claudia Oshry
He lets his interviewers talk about the guests. It's going to be like all stars, celebrities. So I think he'll be able to like turn the spotlight more onto others and just be a conduit where we can have a fun evening filled with football, which is what I'm looking for.
Jackie Oshry
I feel like ESPN's like slate of programming isn't like the best. I feel like they have a couple of shows. People love Stephen A. Smith, but I don't feel like they have like a million, like amazing.
Claudia Oshry
I. I would have said they're the best in sports. Oh yeah.
Jackie Oshry
But I mean like talent based shows that people tune into every week. You just put on ESPN when you want to watch. No sports.
Claudia Oshry
Zach's show. Mike and Mike. What's that on?
Jackie Oshry
Okay. Like you don't even know.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I never heard of CTI show. Let's see where it's on. He watches that every day. And he watches Cowan Cowherd.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, that one. I know Colin. Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Which I don't like. PTI is on espn. Colin Cowherd is on. I don't even know how I would find this. Where is he?
Jackie Oshry
I just don't feel like they have enough stars.
Claudia Oshry
Sports radio.
Jackie Oshry
Radio. I don't know. I just feel like they need more like glitz and glam when it comes to like, like stars having shows on their network. And I think that this is a good idea.
Claudia Oshry
I think this is a good idea. Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Like they had briefly tried to work with like, and it like the whole thing. They couldn't take the heat after. After what? After one fucking day. Which Was like a good idea for them to work with them initially, and then they like seriously buckled under. The pressure was so lame. So they've kind of like failed in this department repeatedly, except for like a few core people. So I think that this is a great idea.
Claudia Oshry
I think so too. I'm holding space for it. I'm feeling that.
Jackie Oshry
What am I doing?
Claudia Oshry
Holding space and feeling the power in it.
Jackie Oshry
No, Jackie, what am I doing right now?
Claudia Oshry
Holding space for the lyrics of defying gravity.
Jackie Oshry
Yes. Very good.
Claudia Oshry
A lot of people are doing that right now, actually.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God. That's just what I wanted.
Claudia Oshry
Our fifth and final story is for.
Jackie Oshry
The girls, brought to you by Minky Couture.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, you're gonna want Minky couture for this fifth and final story.
Jackie Oshry
A lot of people are like, Claudia and Jackie, you're obsessed with Minky couture. How could it be so much better than a regular blanket? I get great blankets, you know, at my local store. And then they, they interact with a Minky Couture. They either see one in real life, they purchase one for themselves, and then they understand why we've been going on in the world. Shut up about going on. These blankets are so soft. They are so luxurious. It's literally like living on a cloud. So Minky couture is the creator of the original hugs blanket, which is a stretchy, plush and double sided blanket that really hugs you back. I have never had a blanket that comes even close to my Minky couture. I like have started to sleep because it's my throw blanket, but I've started to sleep with just my Minky couture, not even under my own comforter. It is so warm and I love the hugs one. The stretchy factor, like makes it really easy to make your bed. And my bed always ends up looking like really chic. Obviously we love making couture because their products are amazing, but also they're a female owned business. It was started by a mother who just wanted to provide luxurious comfort to her daughter. Now they have like a ton of different products. They also have kids blankets, which I know your kids love and are the perfect size for a crate, if anybody cares. So for a dog crate, it's also the perfect size.
Claudia Oshry
Crib. It's the perfect size.
Jackie Oshry
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Claudia Oshry
It was so special to receive. I love it so much. It was so thoughtful and they just have like the most beautiful wares for home, for cozy. It's so creative and it's very sentimental.
Jackie Oshry
I also think a nice life hack for the holidays because I feel like holiday time you need a lot of stationery. Getting custom stationery on Etsy is really cute. Like from the desk of Turdy Lou. They have such great sellers and little shops on Etsy you'll find what you're looking for. So for original gifts that say I get you, Etsy has it and check it out.
Claudia Oshry
Thank you Tertsy.
Jackie Oshry
You're welcome.
Claudia Oshry
Our fifth and final stories for the girls. You got the boys.
Jackie Oshry
This one's for the girls who love without holding back, who dream with everything that you have. That's such a good song.
C
It is.
Claudia Oshry
Is that about Martina Martini?
Jackie Oshry
So good. You're beautiful the way you are.
Claudia Oshry
The boys have Jason Kelsey. The girls have Molly Mae. She is getting a Prime video docuseries following her breakup with Tommy Fury. So UK reality star Molly May Hogg is set to star in her own docu series following the breakdown of her relationship with boxer Tommy Fury. The six part series, which is headed for Prime Video in January, promises to take viewers behind the headlines to uncover the real Molly May. Cameras will follow her as she parents Bambi, her 18 month old daughter with Fury and launches a new business venture. So that would be maybe Molly and Fury were the couple of their generation. With fans devastated when they broke up. The description said, this is Molly May and we've never as we've never seen her before. Raw, real and redefining what it means to thrive under intense public Scrutiny, the first three episodes will launch on Prime Video on January 17th and the second three will be scheduled for the spring.
Jackie Oshry
So that's really smart, like, of who? Whoever's idea this was. Because there's so much interest and even without, like, the scandal, she was such a deeply, like, sought after person. People love to see her life even in the boring times. And so now to have given her us a docu series when there is so much going on and there's even like a. A higher level of like, intrigue with her personal life, it's really brilliant. And I think that, like, overall this is like such a terrible thing that he did to her, but I think she will end up like kind of, kind of almost like a little bit like our animatics. Like so much better because of it.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
Jackie Oshry
Career wise.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I mean, people like love her vlogs and she's just like, you know, sitting in her car going to Home Goods UK version. And so to have like something so highly produced, like interviews. Third part. Like, I'm really excited to see her in her element and, like, get her back on my TV screen. Even though I do watch her vlogs on my tv. Like to have. It's different when you're filming yourself versus someone else filming you.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And like, people are obsessed with like, her nursery. Like, just literally seeing what the inside of her life looks like is so interesting because she's just like a very stylish, like, really someone with such immaculate taste that even like the little things in her home people are obsessed with. That's why her YouTube is so successful.
Claudia Oshry
But then also, like, when you do know her, maybe, like, she's such a regular per. Like, she's so regular der. And I think that's why people love her so much because it's like on the outside she seems this way and you'd think someone like that would just be like, so snobbish. But she is the most regular down to earth, like, normal person. It's really, it's really crazy. She's literally one of, or if not like the most popular reality star. Maybe after like Kim the Kardashians, but, like, no one has parlayed like one season of a reality show into the fame that she has.
Jackie Oshry
No, it's really crazy. Like, even before I knew what. Before I only really knew who she was specifically when you watched her season. But I had heard her name before because I remember when she became like, the creative director of Pretty Little Lies.
Claudia Oshry
Pretty Little Thing.
Jackie Oshry
Little thing. Everyone in the UK was freaking out. So I had heard of her quite frequently, actually. I just wasn't familiar with, like, her origin story.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And it's been a great ride for her. So I'm sat for that. That's what I'll be watching in January.
Jackie Oshry
And I do think that is a great segue into Queenie and Weenie, because actually, that story just booted who my weenie was and gave me a new girl Weenie. So without further ado, let's dive into Queenie and Weenie of the Week, which is our. Fine. Wait, I have to. Oh, you know what?
Claudia Oshry
Actually, what?
Jackie Oshry
I'm just. I'm changing my Queenie.
Claudia Oshry
Okay. Queenie and Weenie is our final segment for the week where we award the Queenie and the Weenie of the Week who behaved in a queenish way, who was a wiener. It's a seven day title. Not a big deal. Like, don't get your progress in a twist. We'll start with Queenie because we always start with the positive. We always start.
Jackie Oshry
Can we start with Weenie? Because mine's. It's like a segue from the last story. Because I was. Before this morning, I didn't know we were going to talk about Cynthia and Ariana, and so I wanted to talk about it. So I was going to make them my Queenie, my Weenies of the Week. Like, seriously specific, like Cynthia Moore. But them collectively, like, they're out of control. But I just think, by the way.
Claudia Oshry
That'S what I was saying when I said a fifth might come up in the stories. I figured that would be Cynthia and Ari being your wieners.
Jackie Oshry
They were my original wieners, but I have decided to give it to Katie Robertson. And I'm sure you guys don't know who that is, but it is the girl who went viral this week for basically admitting on a podcast that she's the reason why Tommy Fury and Molly Mae broke up. Because she had sex with Tommy Fury that night in Dubai. And she was really proud of the fact that not only did she have sex with them and she's the reason that she broke. That the family broke up, but also she was the fourth girl he had sex with that evening. So she is a freak. She had this absolute mug on her face, like, wanted to punch so bad. Yeah, like three other girls in Dubai.
Claudia Oshry
But also, I don't want to bubble, but she's not the reason why they broke up. Like, there were literally probably 50 other reasons. And it's like, you're not actually that special.
Jackie Oshry
And I know that some people actually don't even know the video I'm talking about. So I found it. I just do guys like please do. It's worth it.
C
The tape. And I said can I post? It was like if me and my. So Tommy Fury was only this may just gone.
Jackie Oshry
Wait, so how. How did you have Tommy Fury?
C
So I was in Dubai and was at a club called Drift Nightclub and he'd like three girls at the time. Bearing in mind.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, wait, hold on. I need a time throw. I need a time frame.
C
There was a thing in back in May this year, but Tommy was in Dubai for work.
Claudia Oshry
So he was still dating Chris Brown.
C
Yeah, yeah, still dating. And he. Free birds plus me.
Jackie Oshry
Free birds except me plus me. Ugh. I hate this bitch, like more than anything. And she's my weenie of the week. Katie Robinson know the Remember the I.
Claudia Oshry
Of course co sign that my weenie is a little more innocuous. Just someone who like had a weenie moment, a human moment, and just had a bad idea. And that's John Staples.
Jackie Oshry
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I thought you were going to say John Mayer for going to the Sabrina Carpenter concert because that was also.
Claudia Oshry
There were a lot of weenies in our midst. John Stamos wearing cabin Jackie.
Jackie Oshry
Jackie. When it rains, of course.
Claudia Oshry
But like, you know, it's not that serious. Like. And I know other people, like, and I've seen like people weighing in. They're like, as a cancer survivor, like this is not offensive to me. Like it's. It's not a big deal. It was just like a bat. Like not as best and brightest idea.
Jackie Oshry
We've all been there, by the way. And that's why it's so important to remember weenie being a seven day title. Although I do think for Katie Robertson, it like a lifetime title. Yeah, a lifetime achievement weenie. Now, queenie of the week, do you want to go first?
Claudia Oshry
Because of course my Queenie is turdy. Of course I had to do it. Oh my God, it was so sweet week. Kind of the star of the week, the big celeb news of the week. Turdi announcing her amazing news. Now, you've been my Queenie for as many weeks as I've known the joyous news. But in culmination of all of that, you know, your determination and you're showing up even in the throes of not feeling well. It's very much Queenie behavior.
Jackie Oshry
That is so sweet. I almost made my. I did make my Queenie up until two seconds ago, till I remembered something else. I wanted to make my queenie. I did make my queenie initially, like, everybody who's been so nice and so happy for me, making me so excited. Like, I was already excited, but now it's like, even more exciting. Like, so everybody being, like, so nice to me this week. You guys know, like, I live for the attention, especially when it's positive. So that really meant a lot to me. So thank you. But you are not my weenie. Because I got an email yesterday that actually became my queenie this week.
Claudia Oshry
What? Are you gonna share it? Because we got another email yesterday that.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, I know what you think it's about. I know what you think it's.
Claudia Oshry
I think it was going to be it.
Jackie Oshry
So, you know, we get. I don't want to say, like, a lot, but we get, like a decent amount of fan mail and they're always really sweet, but this one, like, actually shook me to my core. Maybe it's the fact that I'm pregnant or the fact that we don't have a father. Like, it really got to me. Okay. Yes. And I won't share his name, but I love this man. Okay. He said, hello, Claudia and Jackie. Sorry, not me making everything about myself. He literally, he wrote Claudia and Jackie. I am a Gen X dad with a 29 year old millennial daughter. She lives in a different state, but I try to share experiences with her to stay connected. Our dog texts her, with my help, of course, throughout the day, asks her how she's doing, shares daytime drama and photos. Since we share a Spotify account, I notice that she listens to the toast, so of course I do as well. My personal favorite is that we text each other our Queenie and Weenie of the week. Your podcast is more than the fast five stories that everyone needs to know. It's also something a dad and a daughter share together. Thank you for your podcast quote. Love ya. Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna cry. Like, it was so sweet. I literally wrote him back and I was like, oh my God, you just made my whole life. I love you so much. I never heard back from him, but hopefully he.
Claudia Oshry
Hopefully he knows that his note meant a lot to us because I know.
Jackie Oshry
He'S checking in on a Friday because he loves Week Queenie and to know.
Claudia Oshry
That he's the Queenie, I was like.
Jackie Oshry
Actually so overcome with emotion. It was the sweetest thing ever.
Claudia Oshry
That's emotional. Plus, you're pregnant. Speaking of, did you see that Volvo commercial that has everyone crying?
Jackie Oshry
I've been sent it quite a lot. And I'm actually like, I. I watch it for a couple of seconds and I needed a break. Like, I haven't sat. Like, I wasn't ready to take on that type of.
Claudia Oshry
I didn't make it all the way through because it was just, like, too much. I'm like, why am I crying at a car commercial? Like, when she said she was worried about going to, like, doing well in class, I'm like, I'm out of here.
Jackie Oshry
I actually didn't even get there. I don't know what you're talking about. So just like, I just saw the pregnancy test.
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No, like, just the pregnancy. Yeah, that's when it starts. Just like the emotion. So, yeah, I think it makes, like, everyone cry. And I guess I have to get a Volvo.
Jackie Oshry
It's the safest car in the market, Jax. It really is.
Claudia Oshry
But I'm like, so Tesla loyal. Like, they'll have to pry. The Tesla's. I want all three. I want them X, Y and Z. Like I want. I actually was thinking about it this morning as I was driving. Like, where am I going from here? You know? Jerry's waiting for an answer on what kind of car I want next. I haven't made a decision.
Jackie Oshry
Who the hell is Jerry?
Claudia Oshry
Oh, the guy at Tesla.
Jackie Oshry
And it's like he's literally not even a person. Right. He's an automated machine.
Claudia Oshry
So even though he gets a little emotional, I think it's a person. I want a why and a cyber truck. I need both.
Jackie Oshry
Well, I want lunch.
Claudia Oshry
What are you gonna have?
Jackie Oshry
I don't know. The world is. Oh, I'm actually. I'm meeting Satchel for lunch, so I'll have to wait. Like, a little bit fragile. Yeah, I'm having lunch with Cratchel. Not a big deal.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my goodness.
Jackie Oshry
Just like. Yeah, having lunch. A big, big lunch.
Claudia Oshry
Big lunch with the big exec.
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my gosh. What's the occasion?
Jackie Oshry
Friday, Crutch was available. I asked her if she wanted to have lunch, figuring be like, no, I can't. And she was like, sure.
Claudia Oshry
Cratch was a veil. You never hear those words.
Jackie Oshry
You never hear those words. Cratch's availability. Availability is nil, usually.
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my God. Send my love to Cratch, will you?
Jackie Oshry
I will send you pics of us at lunch. I'll take a couple of sneaky shots of crotch, you guys. That's our show. Thanks for a great week. Thank you so much for listening to the toast. And Monday morning show where we Deliver the Fast5 stories. You need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So funny today. If you're listening. If you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. Give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast we found so it's about public video. I already cast box all the places podcasting five star video. Beautiful weekly. Talented we are. Have an amazing day and we'll see you on Monday. Love ya.
Claudia Oshry
Excuse. Love you. Bye.
Jackie Oshry
Sorry.
Podcast Summary: The Toast – "A Human Moment" | Friday, November 22nd, 2024
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: November 22, 2024
Podcast Description: Take a bite out of The Toast, weekdays with Jackie & Claudia Oshry.
In this episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry kick off with their signature humorous banter about the confusion surrounding the day being Friday. This light-hearted start sets the stage for a deep dive into the week's most compelling stories.
Timestamps: [22:13] – [28:45]
Overview:
Claudia introduces the first story, highlighting the backlash surrounding the promotional interviews for the musical "Wicked." The emotional exchanges between star Cynthia Rejor and reporters have left audiences puzzled and critical.
Key Points:
Timestamps: [31:14] – [36:33]
Overview:
The hosts discuss the recent legal developments surrounding Jesse Smollett. The Illinois Supreme Court has overturned his conviction related to staging a hate crime, citing procedural violations during the retrial.
Key Points:
Timestamps: [36:42] – [51:04]
Overview:
Claudia shares insights from Cara Delevingne’s upcoming docu-series on Prime Video, which chronicles Cara’s experience living with pop star Taylor Swift after a tumultuous breakup with Tommy Fury.
Key Points:
Timestamps: [40:15] – [44:35]
Overview:
Jason Kelsey, a Super Bowl champion, is set to host a new late-night talk show on ESPN titled Late Night with Jason Kelsey, premiering in January 2025.
Key Points:
Timestamps: [49:15] – [51:27]
Overview:
Molly May Hogg, a UK reality star, is launching her own six-part docu-series on Prime Video, focusing on her breakup with boxer Tommy Fury, parenting, and new business ventures.
Key Points:
Timestamps: [52:58] – [60:49]
Overview:
In their weekly segment, Jackie and Claudia award "Queenie of the Week" and "Weenie of the Week" based on notable behaviors observed during the week.
Key Points:
Jackie and Claudia wrap up the episode by expressing heartfelt gratitude to their listeners, encouraging them to subscribe and engage with the podcast on various platforms. They tease upcoming stories and reiterate their appreciation for the community that supports The Toast.
Claudia [59:53]: "This doesn't change reality."
Jackie [60:49]: "Have an amazing day and we'll see you on Monday. Love ya."
Conclusion
In "A Human Moment," Jackie and Claudia Oshry delve into a mix of entertainment controversies, legal battles, celebrity docu-series, and personal stories that highlight the intersection of public personas and private lives. Their candid discussions, coupled with humor and emotional insights, offer listeners a comprehensive and engaging overview of current events and personal anecdotes.
Notable Quotes with Attribution and Timestamps:
Jackie Oshry [00:10]: "I could sing, but I won't because I value my business."
Claudia Oshry [26:59]: "This is the ultimate word salad. And I feel like people have been getting away with saying things like that that don't mean anything."
Jackie Oshry [34:19]: "He's such a freak."
Claudia Oshry [44:41]: "A lot of people are like, Claudia and Jackie, you're obsessed with Minky couture."
Jackie Oshry [49:15]: "The girls have Molly Mae."
This detailed summary captures the essence of the episode, providing a clear and structured overview for those who haven't tuned in, while highlighting the key discussions and memorable quotes from Jackie and Claudia Oshry.