A Queenie in Both Hands: Friday, January 16th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – "A Queenie in Both Hands"

Date: Friday, January 16th, 2026
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)

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Episode Overview

This Friday episode of The Toast kicks off with typical Jackie and Claudia banter about millennial nostalgia, life updates, and plenty of self-aware humor. They reflect on viral trends, celebrity news, new launches in the podcast/media world, and wrap up with their signature “Queenie and Weenie of the Week” awards. Throughout, the tone is lighthearted, candid, and occasionally self-deprecating, with lots of pop culture references and honest opinions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. 2016 Nostalgia & Millennial Trends

• Time: 00:25–01:00

  • Jackie and Jaqui reminisce about millennial trends, particularly the mustache craze of 2016 and sharing funny memories from their social media history.

  “Remember when everyone was doing mustaches in 2016?...That’s like a core tenant of 2016. Like, everybody had a fake mustache. Oh, my God, Are you even a millennial?”
  — Jackie [00:36]

2. Mel Robbins, “Let Them” Theory, and Podcast Shade

• Time: 01:02–02:52

  • Briefly discuss public reactions to Mel Robbins’ podcast appearances and clarify previous comments about “The Good Guys” podcast—they admit their jokes were based on envy, not real shade.
  • Debate the merits and limitations of Mel Robbins’ "Let Them" philosophy and alternative approaches to interpersonal boundaries.

  “We hate them because … We are jealous of their success.”
  — Jackie [01:45]

  "Kelty coined not the let them but the F them theory and I feel like I definitely subscribe more to that."
  — Jackie [02:34]

3. Sweater Weather, Florida Cold, and Mahjong Party Prep

• Time: 03:00–04:44

  • Both hosts are dressed up in cozy fashion, celebrating rare cold weather in Florida.
  • Jaqui shares about accessorizing for a mahjong night, Jackie expresses nerves about playing a different regional style (Moroccan vs. local), and they chat about “mahjong imposter syndrome.”

  “So I’ve never played without futures, and I think people down here play without futures… I’ve been playing since the sixth grade, and, like, meanwhile, I’m not gonna be able to play because I don’t know what you guys are doing.”
  — Jackie [04:24]

4. Traffic, Police Pull-Over Anxiety, and Owning Mistakes

• Time: 04:59–08:37

  • Jaqui relates a new fear about how to know if you’re being pulled over by police.
  • Jackie shares she’s never been pulled over and confesses: “I do feel like you’re less likely to get a ticket when you’re pretty.”
  • The hosts reflect on taking accountability during traffic stops and recount Ben’s (Jackie’s husband) run-ins with traffic cops, including an accidental yearlong stint with a suspended license.

  “I do hope that it does happen on a day where, like, I am looking pretty, because I’m sorry, like, the world we live in, I do feel like you’re less likely to get a ticket when you’re pretty.”
  — Jackie [06:15]

5. Weekend Plans & Ben’s Cooking Skills

• Time: 08:42–11:53

  • They celebrate the end of the week and plan a barbecue for the MLK long weekend.
  • Jackie unexpectedly praises Ben’s chicken schnitzel, revealing his “game changing” use of cornstarch instead of flour for crispiness.

  “I’ve never had better chicken in my whole life than this chicken.”
  — Jackie [10:20]

6. AI Food Videos & Cooking Trends on Social Media

• Time: 11:16–11:54

  • Jaqui raves about quirky AI food videos where ingredients talk about how to cook them and notes how much she’s learning from them.

  “It’s like an onion being like, hey, I’m a white onion. Don’t put me in something cook... I’m a steak. Let me rest 15 minutes before you cook me. It’s hysterical.”
  — Jaqui [10:52]

7. Growth as Home Cooks

• Time: 11:23–11:55

  • Jaqui reflects on how much faster and easier cooking favorite recipes has become with experience.

  “It’s just so funny now that I’m more experienced...it was okay. It wasn’t, like, so amazing. But two, like, how much quicker it takes me to make it. It was, like, a nothing recipe.”
  — Jaqui [11:23]

8. Children’s Books Review

• Time: 12:11–15:07

  • Discuss new children’s books, including “I Love You Till the Cows Come Home” (underwhelming) and “Giraffes Can’t Dance” (big hit, surprisingly emotional for adults as well).
  • Dissect the enduring popularity (and confusion) around “Brown Bear, Brown Bear, What Do You See?”

  “Giraffes can’t dance. Makes me cry. Like, I fucking love this book.”
  — Jackie [12:49] “Why would the teacher be in the zoo?...the book doesn’t end. It’s just like, it’s not Good.”
  — Jackie [14:29]

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The Fast 5 Stories You Need to Know

(Main celeb/news discussion begins at 20:23)

1. Alex Earle Launches YouTube Series “Get Real With Me”

• Time: 20:23–28:12

  • Alex Earle transitions Hot Mess into Hot Mess Media, launching a YouTube interview series that blends “Get Ready With Me” authenticity with higher production values.
  • Jackie and Jaqui discuss the saturation of celebrity interview formats, speculate on Alex’s staying power, and debate the viability of influencer-led production companies.

  “It’s almost impossible to do it successfully...Dear Media, I can’t think of another...The Ringer...that’s the model...But nine times out of ten they fail.”
  — Jackie [24:36]

2. Harry Styles’ Disco Album Announcement

• Time: 28:12–34:45

  • Harry Styles announces his disco-themed album “Kiss All The Time, Disco Occasionally.”
  • Both hosts critique the album cover's “pee pee poo poo” vibes and discuss how sometimes album aesthetics miss the mark for even the biggest stars.

  “The cover is atrocious, actually. I haven’t seen anyone talking about it, but I think it’s...the stupidest cover I ever saw.”
  — Jaqui [29:26] “This is going to be an amazing album. Like, Disco Harry’s really not capable of flopping.”
  — Jackie [30:07]

3. Caitlyn Jenner Supports Kylie Jenner & Timothée Chalamet

• Time: 34:51–38:16

  • Caitlyn publicly gives her blessing to Kylie and Timothée, calling him “a great kid and a phenomenal actor.”
  • They relate this to the “Donna Kelce effect”—when celebrity mothers give short, neutral public comments out of careful privacy.

  “I mean, I feel like this relationship is any parent’s dream. Like, they’re together three years. She seems so happy. He’s so, like, proud of her...But I also feel like Caitlyn...is not giving a lot because she’s scared...it’s mostly like, I’m just trying to honor their privacy because they’re the most private couple in the world.”
  — Jaqui [36:51]

4. Ashley Tisdale’s ‘Toxic Mom Group’ Drama May Become a Movie

• Time: 38:16–41:47

  • Movie producers are eyeing a film adaptation of Ashley Tisdale’s viral blog about mom group drama.
  • Jackie is skeptical unless creative control is neutral; Jaqui is here for the “rich-mom-infighting” genre if the film includes juicy elements like a murder or a love triangle.

  “It would be our favorite kind of movie. Like, rich mothers doing things, infighting...There does need to be a murder.”
  — Jaqui [39:04]

5. Jennifer Lawrence on Missing a Tarantino Role Due to ‘Not Pretty Enough’ Trolls

• Time: 41:48–46:52

  • Jennifer Lawrence claims she missed out on playing Sharon Tate in “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” over internet rumors she wasn’t “pretty enough.”
  • Jackie and Jaqui are dubious this was real—suggesting the internet invents drama, and casting decisions don’t usually come down to online chatter.

  "I have never heard anybody say that she's not pretty. So like this, I feel like this is maybe like a figment of her imagination.”
  — Jackie [43:29] “Quentin, who almost shelves a whole project because he couldn’t get the casting right, isn’t going to take casting direction from the Internet.”
  — Jaqui [44:20]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Jackie on accountability at a traffic stop:
  “It’s so important that your disposition be, like, holding space for accountability.” [07:00]

• Jaqui on AI recipe videos:
  “It’s like an onion being like, hey, I’m a white onion. Don’t put me in something cook...It’s hysterical. I see so many of them.” [10:52]

• Jackie on Ben’s schnitzel:
  “Don’t tell him I said this. I’ve never had better chicken in my whole life in my entire life than this chicken.” [10:20]

• Jackie on the disco resurgence:
  “Obsessed with the concept of a disco album. I feel like disco is so back. Right? All the kids are, like, remixing ABBA and, you know, Saturday Night Fever. Love it.” [28:44]

• On the Giraffes Can’t Dance book:
  “Giraffes can’t dance. Makes me cry. Like, I fucking love this book.” [12:49]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------|-------------| | 2016 Mustache Nostalgia | 00:25–01:00 | | Mel Robbins & Good Guys Podcast | 01:02–02:52 | | Florida “Winter” & Mahjong Talk | 03:00–05:00 | | New Fear: Getting Pulled Over | 04:59–08:37 | | Barbecue/Weekend Plans & Ben’s Recipes | 08:42–11:16 | | AI Food Videos + Cooking Perspective | 10:40–11:54 | | Children’s Book Reviews | 12:11–15:07 | | Fast Five News Stories Start | 20:23 | | Alex Earle YouTube Series Discussion | 20:23–28:12 | | Harry Styles’ Disco Album | 28:12–34:45 | | Caitlyn Jenner on Kylie & Timothée | 34:51–38:16 | | Ashley Tisdale’s Mom Group Drama | 38:16–41:47 | | J. Lawrence “Not Pretty Enough” | 41:48–46:52 | | Queenie & Weenie of the Week Awards | 47:50–52:32 |

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Queenie & Weenie of the Week

Queenie(s):

• Pitbull (“for influencing my week for the better, mood booster…he’s just such a king...He should do the Super Bowl.” – Jaqui [47:52])
• Sydney Sweeney (for meeting with Israeli hostages)
• Jackie’s Queenie: “2016 trend”—loving the millennial throwback, old photos, and Instagram challenges.

Weenie:

• Kiefer Sutherland (for assaulting an Uber driver and making Jackie look bad because she always tells celebrities to take Ubers!)
• Honorable mention: Whoever designed Harry Styles’ new album cover.

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Original Tone & Language

• Warm, sarcastic, honest, and distinctly conversational.
• Hosts frequently weave between inside jokes, pop culture commentary, and real talk about their personal lives.
• Reflective of millennial sensibilities—nostalgic, self-mocking, and pop-savvy.

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Summary Takeaways

This episode of The Toast blends cozy “girl chat,” pop news, nostalgia, and candid takes on everything from AI food videos to podcasting business models to the best and worst in children’s literature. The hosts’ playful ribbing (“pee pee poo poo era”) and willingness to get real about jealousy, trends, or past mishaps keeps the tone fresh and relatable. Sprinkle in a signature Friday “Queenie & Weenie” segment—where praise for Pitbull and 2016’s Instagram glory days meets a roasting of Harry Styles’ album art—and you have a snapshot of the Internet’s favorite millennial morning show at peak form.

Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jaqui]

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Jackie]

It's your favorite show.

[Jaqui]

The best five things you need to know.

[Jackie]

We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jaqui]

They sound amazing.

[Jackie]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Friday. Things we did that Friday. Hello. Oh, it's 2016 again. Friday.

[Jaqui]

Things we did. Second full week of the year. What's that?

[Jackie]

Oh, remember when everyone was doing mustaches in 2016?

[Jaqui]

Oh, like, barely.

[Jackie]

What? That's like a core tenant of 2016. Like, everybody had a fake mustache. Oh, my God, Are you even a millennial? You know what I'm talking about. Yes. Like, yeah, mustache. Yeah.

[Jaqui]

Okay. Mustache.

[Jackie]

You know how many pictures we had on Facebook? Like, you were always doing this.

[Jaqui]

Like, I was not. I don't think I was participating in mustache, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't real. It wasn't real to you.

[Jackie]

Now I want to say something. I have to say this. And I literally, like, when I woke up today, I'm like, we're mine. Because I always want to say stuff on the podcast. And then, of course, I forget. Do an amazing episode. And then, like, the one thing I wanted to say, we didn't say. It absolutely bears mentioning that I did not see one comment. And I looked of anybody saying that they absolutely, like, can't miss an episode of the Mel Robbins podcast. I just want to say what I.

[Jaqui]

Did see was people saying, Mel Robbins just went on Good Guys.

[Jackie]

I know. And I knew that when you said.

[Jaqui]

The smallest, tiniest shows she could find.

[Jackie]

Oh, to be clear, I was not talking about the good guys.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, if I'm Mel Robbins and I want to be successful, I'm going on the Good Guys.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. And we've never said the good Guys isn't successful.

[Jackie]

We hate them because they're.

[Jaqui]

It's true. If they weren't successful, they. We wouldn't even notice them.

[Jackie]

No, no. We literally hate them because we ain't them.

[Jaqui]

We are jealous of their success.

[Jackie]

Oh, was that not clear?

[Jaqui]

Like, yeah, no. I think people thought we were throwing shade, but we actually weren't throwing shade in the way that you thought we were throwing shade.

[Jackie]

And I was not talking about the good guys when I was talking about Mel Robbins. And I just thought, I have no issue with Mel Robbins. I think, overall, like, her purpose is a good one. Right. She's not, like, you know, hurting anyone.

[Jaqui]

Do you feel as though you let them know?

[Jackie]

I wish. Like, and I do feel like the Let them theory is a little bit flawed.

[Jaqui]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Because like I could let them but like some people need to stop. Like, you know what I mean?

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And of course not every issue in the world is mine to take on. But like with personal relationships, friends and family, like maybe you shouldn' let them. Maybe they are at a harm and risk to themselves perhaps.

[Jaqui]

I feel like I really let them.

[Jackie]

I think you do too. Kelty coined not the let them but the F them theory and I feel like I definitely subscribe more to that.

[Jaqui]

Yeah, I, I think I'm like kind of a Mel Robin swirly. Like, I just. So let them. It's like my philosophy that you can't really change people and like you can only change how you react to people. Is that what Mel said?

[Jackie]

Oh, I don't know what she has said. I don't know anything about the let them theory beyond, like we're just letting them. Yeah, right.

[Jaqui]

To what end? I don't know.

[Jackie]

Now you swirlies might be wondering why both Jaqui and I are wearing a cashmere sweater. I'm wearing like a, a dual neck. Jackie's wearing an ascot I think we're calling it. Right. Or just like a scarf.

[Jaqui]

Wearing a scarf. A lot of reasons for the reason for the look today. A couple factors went into it.

[Jackie]

The first is that it's the 40s.

[Jaqui]

It'S freezing in Florida, which is so amazing. I live like horrible 365 days for two the two where it drops below 50 in Florida. It's so exciting. This is my thickest sweater set.

[Jackie]

I was such a commuter today. Like I got in the freezing, like warming up my car and then when I got here, I didn't want to get out because I had my heated steering wheel on. Like I was such a regular girl.

[Jaqui]

I use my tissue warmers. I forgot I have a heated steering wheel.

[Jackie]

I didn't even know how to put it on. BMW just said, would you like it like it's on? I said, thanks.

[Jaqui]

Wow. And then I am wearing a little scarf around my neck because we are playing mahjong today. So I, I was like, oh, how could I enhance my look today? As we were saying, I like to add a little trinket or something. I can't wear a hat with like this collared cashmere sweater for the mahjong party tonight. So I'm wearing a little scarf and I just, I thought it added a little something extra, don't you think?

[Jackie]

I do think. Je ne sais quoi.

[Jaqui]

A little je ne sais quoi. I'm excited for mahjong.

[Jackie]

Me too. I'm a little bit nervous because, you know, I talk a big game, and I realize that everybody down here plays a version of mahjong a little bit differently than me. I play with futures. If you guys know mahjong, like, just. It's just a way of playing. Now, playing without futures is, I think, how most people play. But, you know, I learned the Moroccan style from my guru, Esther Chitri.

[Jaqui]

I know your Moroccan roots.

[Jackie]

Q wrecked. Don't forget about that olive skin tone. So I've never played without futures, and I think people down here play without futures. It's not that different. But, you know, I talk a big game.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I've been playing since the sixth grade, and, like, meanwhile, I'm not gonna be able to play because I don't know what the you guys are doing. So it'll be like, you know, I'm excited.

[Jaqui]

I wonder if, like, everyone has mahjong imposter syndrome.

[Jackie]

I think that they do it. Unless you're, like, of Asian descent and you've been playing, like, for generations and, like, your family. I think people who just pick it up, I think everybody's insecure about it.

[Jaqui]

Okay, well, let's see how the game goes.

[Jackie]

Hopefully, like, the other bitches we're playing with are insecure too.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. And we can just be honest about how we're feeling.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

I was on the road this morning, and a new fear was unlocked. Be curious. I saw someone get pulled over, and it was very low key. Like, we were all sitting at the stoplight. The police officer was to my right. I noticed that he was there, so I just noticed that. And then as we started all driving green, he turned his lights on, and the person in front of him just pulled over. And I'm like, how would I know? And if it's meant for me, like, how do you know who the police officer wants to be pulling over?

[Jackie]

It's a good question. In that particular scenario, it's really weird. Like, I don't know.

[Jaqui]

It sounds like she. I looked, and it was a she. It sounds like she knew she did something wrong. In that moment, I was like, okay, my registration is up to date. Thank God it never is. My seatbelt's on.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

10 and 2. I was dancing a little bit. I stopped.

[Jackie]

I don't know. It feels like the girl was pulling over to get out of the way so the police officer could, like, go find his real suspect. And she ended up being the suspect.

[Jaqui]

It was the two of them, but, like, she just sort of, like, claimed it. Like, oh, I guess this is for me. She didn't even, like, give him a couple paces to, like, confirm. He didn't even turn on way away.

[Jackie]

So, you know, there is a first for everything. And I have never been pulled over. I've, of course, been in the car when Ben's been pulled over or someone else. I myself has. Have never been pulled over. And I know, like, at some point it is going to happen. I don't think people go throughout. I think mostly most people on the road, like, have been pulled over at least once. And I'm always, like, prepared. Of course, I do hope that it does happen on a day where, like, I am looking pretty, because I'm sorry, like, the world we live in, I do feel like you're less likely to get a ticket when you're pretty. I do also hope that perhaps that cop's wife is a toaster and he recognizes my voice. I do think that, like, that might be a possibility. We have a lot of LEOs, law enforcement officer wives.

[Jaqui]

My fear, if I get pulled over, like, I'm ready to take ownership and accountability for whatever it was that I did. My fear is not knowing that it's.

[Jackie]

For me, a real issue for many of our friends.

[Jaqui]

Like, I don't know how I'm going to know that I'm the one that needs to be pulled over until he literally has to get out the megaphone, white Tesla pull over. It's.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's. I feel like when it happens to you, you'll know. Yeah, you fucked up, you know?

[Jaqui]

You know, I think it's like, you.

[Jackie]

Know, you up, and it's so important that your disposition be, like, holding space for accountability. And I think, like, where my husband can improve, because I have been with him. Ben has this thing, and he's gotten better with it, and he hasn't gotten pulled over in many years. But, you know, you're supposed to be like, you know, what's the problem, Officer? Oh, I did. I'm so sorry. I had no idea. It won't happen again. And Ben says those words, but his tone is defensive. What did I do?

[Jaqui]

No.

[Jackie]

Are you sure?

[Jaqui]

Are you sure?

[Jackie]

Okay. I'm like, ben, you're being so read. He's like, what are you talking about? I'm being so nice. I'm like, you do you know what nice means? He's so defensive, but also, like, condescending. That was like, the one time it happened. I'm like, girl, you have got to be nicer. And I think when we were pulled over, it was by in New Jersey, which is so much scarier because in New Jersey you get pulled over by a state trooper. Yeah, in New York, it's like a traffic cop. I don't know. They just don't scare me. New Jersey, with the hats. Oh, my God. And we were on the highway, so the guy had to come over to the passenger side to talk to us. So I felt like I was the one being pulled over. I'm like, I'm just here for the R you 1000%.

[Jaqui]

He just wanted to talk to you.

[Jackie]

And I wasn't looking my prettiest. So we did get a ticket. What had you speeding, obviously.

[Jaqui]

Obviously.

[Jackie]

And then like two years later, Ben went to the DMV to renew his license. And they were like, sorry, we can't renew your license. It's suspended. And Ben's like, what are you talking about? They were like, you have had a suspended license for like a year. And Ben had no idea. I guess he got like 11 points. Like, it was like he's gotten like two enormous tickets that at some point you get enough points they revoke your license. But he didn't update his address or anything. So they sent the address to his like, old parents apartment. So he was driving with a suspended license for like a year. That's my husband, King.

[Jaqui]

My King. Well, other than that, it's been a really great week.

[Jackie]

It has. I can't lie. It's been a great week. I'm happy for it to be over. You know, that's not to say that, like, I didn't enjoy the week, but it was still a week.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. And next week is a shorty because it's MLK day, so we are off on Monday. Of course, we have a long weekend to enjoy.

[Jackie]

Just in case anybody might have been confused as to whether there was a show on Monday or not. Of course there's not.

[Jaqui]

Of course there's not. We're gonna not miss the first holiday of the year.

[Jackie]

Not only that, it would be disrespectful.

[Jaqui]

Oh, of course.

[Jackie]

We obviously honor mlk. Of course.

[Jaqui]

Like, duh, you don't. Who would want us to do a show?

[Jackie]

Somebody disgusting. So, yes, it's a short week. Next week. I didn't even think about that. What should we do? Clambake trips to the Cape?

[Jaqui]

Yeah, we have to make a plan. Like maybe a barbecue.

[Jackie]

So glad.

[Jaqui]

I was thinking like Sunday night. Like maybe a barbecue in my place.

[Jackie]

Love that idea.

[Jaqui]

Because we don't have to like, wake.

[Jackie]

Up early, completely inspired.

[Jaqui]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Maybe, like, pool, because it's finally supposed to be nice again. Okay. Starting on Sunday.

[Jaqui]

Okay.

[Jackie]

I love a barbecue.

[Jaqui]

Okay, so you're in.

[Jackie]

Oh, I'm so in. Like, my barbecue. Yeah. If you're, like, hosting.

[Jaqui]

So I guess, like, let's. Let's move forward with it. Means I have to, like, probably get meat today.

[Jackie]

Ben's at the kosher grocer right now. Yeah, of course. He's making a recipe. Like.

[Jaqui]

Oh, what is he making? What he made yesterday looked so good.

[Jackie]

You know, I have to say, because I'm always clowning on Ben. He made this Chinese chicken salad. Inspired recipe because, like, a really popular thing, Chinese chicken salad. But he made a Chinese chicken slaw, so it was like a coleslaw salad. Obviously, I didn't eat it, but the. He made the chicken separately. It's like a. It was like schnitzel, like, a breaded cutlet, and he chopped it up, left it out of the cutting board, and then I think he, like, went to the bathroom or something, and I went in there and had a couple of pieces of the chicken. Oh, my God, you guys. Don't tell him I said this. I've never had better chicken in my whole life in my entire life than this chicken.

[Jaqui]

It looked really good. And that was his kind of salad, like, with cabbage.

[Jackie]

If you want to know what the secret was for the chicken, you know, you do egg, flour. He didn't do flour. He did cornstarch that was so crispy. Yeah, I know. Like, none of this means anything to.

[Jaqui]

Me, but someone out there.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

Wants to know, did you see what I posted on Instagram yesterday? These, like, new AI food videos. Have you seen them?

[Jackie]

No. I'm getting AI food videos of, like, babies made out of orange slices eating orange slices.

[Jaqui]

Oh, I've seen those. I've seen love. Now I get, like, cooking tips and life tips. It's like an onion being like, hey, I'm a white onion. Don't put me in something cook. They're like, a food ingredients. Yelling at you, telling you how to cook them. I'm a steak. Let me rest 15 minutes before you cook me. It's hysterical. I see so many of them. I send a bunch of them to Ben because I just, like, think they're funny, but I just want to, like, share with the classes. Anyone else experiencing these videos? I'm really enjoying them, and I'm learning a lot.

[Jackie]

I had not seen them before you posted, although that doesn't mean, like, I'm not the target demo for it, but that's where AI is a beautiful thing.

[Jaqui]

It is. It's really a beautiful thing. I'm learning a lot. Last night, I made Ina's lemon chicken recipe, which was one of the first recipes I ever made. When I, like, started cooking years ago, I made it, like, in my old apartment. And it's just so funny now that I'm more experienced. How much not up to snuff? Well, one, that it was okay. It wasn't, like, so amazing. But two, like, how much quicker it takes me to make it. It was, like, a nothing recipe. Like, when I made that, it was like my big Shabbat, right? And now it's like, it's a couple of chopped garlic cloves and a white wine.

[Jackie]

You be kind to your former self.

[Jaqui]

Oh, for sure.

[Jackie]

She's doing her best. Queenie of the week. Oh, today's Friday. We are doing queenie and weenie the weekend for kind of a historic week. I had such a hard time thinking of a weenie, but the queenie came to me real quick.

[Jaqui]

I had two queenies. I'm gonna share them both.

[Jackie]

Should we just be positive this week?

[Jaqui]

A queenie in each hand.

[Jackie]

That's beautiful. Now me and you to what else I had to tell you guys. Okay, so Jackie was helping me place an order on Amazon for, like, new children's books, because I've just ended up with, like, some rogue books here, and they're horrible, and I ordered a couple, and I want to talk about them.

[Jaqui]

You know, this is my favorite subject, and I've been begging you for years.

[Jackie]

I love you till the cows come home. That was your recommendation? I don't feel like it passes muster. I just want to let you know, having said that, the next book, like, you know, I can't read. I love you forever because it makes me cry. Giraffes can't dance. Makes me cry. Like, I fucking love this book.

[Jaqui]

I'm dancing. Yes, I'm dancing. Oh, I'm dancing. Gerald cried.

[Jackie]

Oh, Gerald, you're so weird. Oh, my God. When they called Gerald weird, like, I'm not okay. Yeah, I love this.

[Jaqui]

Protect Gerald at all costs.

[Jackie]

Protect Harold. Ben could not. He was like. He was. I forget what he was doing, but he was, like, not in the bed reading the book with us. He was just, like, peripheral, like, you know, going through his backpack or something, and he, like, picks his head up. We all can dance to music that we love. He was like, I love this book. You go, and that's the book Andrew Schultz recommended to you. And, you know, books are so personal. He was saying. I remember him saying, giraffes. Contents. I'm like, that book sounds horrible, you guys. This fucking book. Listen to the breeze. Like, it's hard for me not to get emotional while reading this book. And of course, it's about dancing and music, but it's really not. It's a larger message. And Ben and I were actually having a conversation.

[Jaqui]

Books are.

[Jackie]

We were having a conversation after we put Ruby down. Like, what. You know, what is the message of the book? Of course it's about dancing, but it's about so much more than that. It's that individuality.

[Jaqui]

It's about trying new things. It's about putting yourself out there, and it's about beating to the beat, dancing to the beat of your own drum, quite literally.

[Jackie]

It's such an amazing book. And the thing is, like, Ruby can't appreciate it yet, but, like, I'm reading it for myself. All Ruby wants to read is Brown Bear. Brown Bear, what do you see? And I just want to say, do.

[Jaqui]

You have a page in your book that's upside down?

[Jackie]

Which page?

[Jaqui]

One of the pages in my Brown Bear book is, like, printed upside down. I don't know if that's.

[Jackie]

Is it one of the animals?

[Jaqui]

Yeah. No, it's like the white bird or something. It's upside down. I think it's an error.

[Jackie]

Is the text upside down?

[Jaqui]

I can't remember, but it felt like an error. I'm glad. If you don't have it, then it's an error.

[Jackie]

No, I don't have it.

[Jaqui]

I just.

[Jackie]

I wish, like, he wasn't so obsessed with it. Like, I see children. No. Okay. And so the whole point of the book is, like, you're asking, brown bear, what do you see? The brown bear sees a red bird. What does the red bird see? A yellow duck. It's a way for, like, animals and colors. I get it. And then the very last animal, it's like, what do you see? It's like, I see a teacher looking at me. Why would the teacher be in the zoo? Okay. Then the teacher's like, teacher, teacher, what do you see? And the teacher's like, well, I see children looking at me. So I think it's about, like, a class trip to a zoo. And it's like, children, what do you see? And then they name all of the things. And a teacher. That's what we see. And it's like, the book doesn't end. It's just like, it's not Good.

[Jaqui]

I don't understand how that book got so popular and got so much market share. Like, I feel like if, if someone set out to write that book right now, like a nobody say I was writing a children's book and that's what I wrote. Nobody would buy it, nobody would read it. It's like not a good book, but it's just, you get it is the.

[Jackie]

David Letterman it's an industry book. David Letterman could never get famous today. Like when the pool is much wider. Brown bear would never, would never succeed in today's economy. Too many, too many good new authors.

[Jaqui]

It's an industry plan. I think giraffes can't dance. Camper dance. Of course.

[Jackie]

Let's remind it's right behind Jackie. The best book ever written is the camper in the council. I actually need a copy for while I'm here.

[Jaqui]

Grab it.

[Jackie]

So that's Koji's corner today.

[Jaqui]

I love that. You know why? Because I said children's books all day, every day. I've, you know, said we should do a patreon on it. And I was struck down.

[Jackie]

But I stand by that. But maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Jaqui]

Without further ado, da da da do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you da do need to know.

[Jackie]

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[Jaqui]

Thank you, Turt. You're welcome. Our first story, a little media news. Alex Earl is launching a new YouTube interview series called Get Real With Me.

[Jackie]

So I was wrong. I just want to say I do believe that the project, the project she was teasing is this YouTube series. Myself and a lot of other people thought it was like a brand from her, which I do believe we'll get eventually, whether it's skincare or makeup. But I was wrong. Just saying.

[Jaqui]

Um, she's launched like Hot Mess Media. So she's changed the name of Hot Mess to become Hot Mess Media. And under that, she is launching Get Real With Me, which is a new monthly.

[Jackie]

I didn't realize she was like creating a tnn. I thought it was just like Hot Mess is now turning into Get Ready With Me.

[Jaqui]

Yeah, no, and she's keeping the name and just sort of merging. Plus, Get Real with Me is a monthly YouTube series that elevates like the viral get ready with me TikTok videos she makes into a full fledged conversation show. The series will Launch on Thursday, January 15th with an episode featuring her close friend creat comedian Jake Shane, with an additional guest set to Appear on a monthly basis. It will stream on YouTube and across all video podcast platforms. It is presented by Hot Mess Media with Abigail Lowenthal executive producing. It's filmed in a custom built dressing room style studio in West Hollywood.

[Jackie]

It was gorgeous.

[Jaqui]

It's designed to feel stripped back. It features one way mirror hidden cameras and vanity embedded microphones. So it's really like a set, not like two people at a microphone aware that they're at a microphone. They're like getting ready and talking, doing makeup and stuff in a pargy manner. It really feels like Haley Bieber's what's in my Bathro? Or welcome to my.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I don't know if Haley Bieber does that anymore, which is a shame because it was great.

[Jaqui]

I feel like she does it when she feels like it.

[Jackie]

Right. This is a monthly installment, which I do feel like it's hard for people when you come from the Internet, like for people to get excited about a monthly thing. They're used to like, you know, five Alex videos a day and one podcast a week sometimes. Most podcasts now do two a week, like so the frequency is, I don't think ideal for fans of hers, but something so high quality obviously takes more. And she also just has like a lot on her plate and I appreciate her not over committing. A lot of people are like, yeah, I could do a podcast a week unless like you can't. So I appreciate her not over committing and I think maybe if it's successful she'll go maybe not a two a month or one a week. But I feel like it's a lot of hoopla for one thing a month, you know.

[Jaqui]

Yeah, like a lot of work, a lot of money, other stuff on her YouTube channel. So she's like creating other content, vlogs and stuff. So like one piece of content a month will be this and it is very high quality. And I guess if she was doing a guest a week like that is so much like then you're a talk show, you know, and then that's your full time job. And this is not her full time job.

[Jackie]

No. And I do feel like we are reaching a boiling point with celebrity interview shows. Like we were just talking yesterday about Pete Davidson. I feel like that's why it was like hard to get excited about because yes, Pete is great, but it's like how many podcasts can celebrities go on? It's now becoming where people aren't even tuning in. With the exception of a couple of people like Amy Poehler. I think people tune in for her. It's just about, like, who the guest is. And I'll go watch this show one week and this show another week. It's like, a little uninspired, the whole, like, celebrity interview thing. Not to say that about Alex, though. I do think that. That she's on this very unique cusp of, like, celebrity and digital talent. So her having, like, Jake Shane is a great. And I'm sure she'll get like a Hailey Bieber, but also, you know, go Internet too. So I think it's great. But I do think we're reaching, like, some sort of boiling point with interview shows.

[Jaqui]

Well, I think when it comes to, like, traditional celebrities, they go on to promote their project and they're not. It's not about, like, conversations. It's just like they're talking about the talking points. And you can't take your talking points to, like, every single show because everyone's tired of hearing it. But, like, like, when it's someone who has, like, personality or an interesting story and it's like, it's just conversations, you could do conversations forever. So. And it's like, interview, it does run dry. But if you're a good conversationalist and you can just, like, put out an hour long, like, interesting piece of content that I think that could go on forever.

[Jackie]

I do also think the concept of hot Mess media is really interesting. Like, is she going to be launching other content? Like maybe Ashton? You know, like, I'm curious. I feel like that's not worth her time as just like, a media personality. It's like a lot of management and it's. It is almost impossible to do it successfully. Like, with the exception of, like, Dear Media, I can't think of another, like, celebrity or Bill Simmons, the ringer. That's like, that's what everyone. I think that's the model. Right. When you do that.

[Jaqui]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Where you have a successful podcast and then you create a media company, it's just. It's almost impossible. And very successful people, smart people do it, and I think that they struggle with it. It's hard to manage talent. It's hard to make your listeners want to listen to another show. Like, you know, unwell comes to mind. Vile Files, they have, like, a little network, and I don't think that their shows are particularly successful outside of Vile Files. Not a ton of Unwell shows have popped off, and that's like, the biggest, you know, and baddest to do it. And I can't think of an example where it's. It's tnn. Like, it's so hard.

[Jaqui]

Yeah, it is really hard, I imagine, for Alex. I don't imagine she'll get into the business of like, talent management and like, bringing on other shows and creators, but, like, anything she does will now be produced by Hot Mess. So, like, even if she did a reality show, I mean, people have been saying, like, Earl Girls forever, like, that would be a Hot Mess production.

[Jackie]

I like that.

[Jaqui]

It just is something to, like, own everything that she's a part of. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I guess I'm thinking like more minutia, like podcast casts.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Where I feel like it's almost impossible to do. Dear Media. Did I say that already? That's a good example of like a show that built a ton of other shows, but I would say like, nine times out of ten they fail. But you're right, I'm thinking more kind of like Margot Robbie. You know, her production company produces every movie, every commercial, everything that she does.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

It's not just digital.

[Jaqui]

Stamp on something, like get a piece of it. At this point, she's owed a piece of anything that she's doing. Even if it's a commercial, it should be a Hot Mess production.

[Jackie]

It's like when you watch any Taylor Swift music video, it's produced by Taylor Swift Productions.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

I'm surprised she went with the name Hot Mess still. I know because when I saw this story first, I'm like, get real with me. That's great. It's a great name. Alex Earle. And it's so conversation.

[Jackie]

And Get Ready with Me is like such an Internet thing.

[Jaqui]

And what we're doing here is we're getting real and getting ready. Like, it's actually brilliant. And it made me feel like, oh, you know what? Hot Mess. What was that? That was kind of a mess. And who wants to be a hot mess? And then I kept reading the article and it's now Hot Mess Media.

[Jackie]

I know. And I think that, like, Hot Mess is really associated with a lot of, like, the drama from the Unwell Network. And I feel like it was maybe representative of her when she was in, like, her college year. But she's been talking about a lot how, like, you know, she's in this. Was in this, like, long term relationship and she's now, like, much more focused on, like, family and business and health. And she's not a hot mess anymore. So I feel like, you know, when you build something, you feel like, attached to the. We had it with the breath. Like, we couldn't even imagine.

[Jaqui]

You couldn't pry the breath from what.

[Jackie]

We were devastated when we couldn't get.

[Jaqui]

The ip, honestly thinking, you know, that trend and da, da, da, do that again. Like, you know, what are you seeing? Like, you know, the song Time cast a spell on the trend that's going on. In your 20, someone will, like, in.

[Jackie]

Your 20s, you will lose the IP to a show called the Morning Breath. It is important that you don't care. That's a good one.

[Jaqui]

And then with like a month, let's make it with a montage of like, toast. But like, oh, my God, you don't understand when the day we found out that we could not have the name.

[Jackie]

The morning on the couch screaming, we.

[Jaqui]

Thought it was all over. We thought that was. Was literally the key to, like, that was the best, smartest thing we ever did.

[Jackie]

And I get it because, like, sometimes you're so attached to ip. That was the whole call her daddy drama with Sophia and Alex. And you know what? That IP proved to be extremely valuable. So, like, you know, keeping it was important. So it's not a ubiquitous, like, all the time. But I do think she could have left it behind. I think when I think of it, I think a lot of, like, you know, the podcast drama, I don't think it represents her now as like, a woman, but whatever, whatever.

[Jaqui]

I just thought that was, like, interesting to note.

[Jackie]

Get Real with Me is a great.

[Jaqui]

Title and I think a first episode with Jake Shane is a great start. It's going to be fun and it'll give us a taste of, like, what we can expect, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah. I'm curious, like, who the other guests are.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, if it's going to be more digital, we gotta have Ashton. Of course.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. But I don't think that's what this is. Like. She can get real with Ashton all day. Yeah. Okay, are you ready for our next story? Harry Styles announces his new disco themed album ahead of his MSG residency. Harry Styles announced on Thursday that he will be releasing his fourth record called Kiss all the Time Disco Occasionally. So it is a disco album featuring a glittering disco ball during a sunrise. And it will be out March 6th.

[Jackie]

Obsessed with the concept of a disco album. I feel like disco is so back. Right? All the kids are, like, remixing ABBA and, you know, Saturday Night Fever. Love it. It's very on the nose. And if anyone's gonna do it, it's gonna be Harry, like, with his outfits and stuff. The title of this album, like, I don't understand and not me, like, breaking my neck to read it. Did you see, like, because it's Written in a circle. So I'm like, kiss everything. No, it was. What is it?

[Jaqui]

Kiss all the time period.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Jaqui]

But I occasionally. No, I don't.

[Jackie]

I didn't know where the first word was, so I was like, all the kiss time.

[Jaqui]

You're not meant to. If I hadn't known that that was the title, I don't know what I would. I wouldn't know that that's the title. I would have just thought it was, like, a weird stamp in the corner.

[Jackie]

And then we' cut out and paste it on the bottom left corner. It's definitely a weird cover.

[Jaqui]

I think the COVID is atrocious, actually. I don't even think that's a hot take. I haven't seen anyone talking about it, but I think it's. This is the stupidest cover I ever saw. Okay.

[Jackie]

I didn't want to be, like, overwhelmingly negative, so I was, like, over here saying, it's weird, but I agree it's awful.

[Jaqui]

And there's so much you could do. First of all, he's like, the most handsome man on the planet. Give us your face.

[Jackie]

Of course, I do think sometimes people don't want to rest on their laurels of good looks, so they get a little creative.

[Jaqui]

Like, this cover makes no sense. It looks like it was made in pick art. And no, you know what?

[Jackie]

It's giving Jackie pee pee poo poo. Oh, pic monkey.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Remember, pick monkey?

[Jaqui]

Yeah. It's like word art. It is. If I just saw this cover, I would say Harry is having a pee pee poo poo moment.

[Jackie]

Although we know, like, this is going to be an amazing album. Like, Disco Harry's really not capable of flopping.

[Jaqui]

So, like, if I said something, I would think it's giving Harry Styles and his dead pet.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it is. I totally agree. The pee pee poo poo element of this album cover cannot be overstated.

[Jaqui]

I know, and I want to, like, not talk about it, but we don't have a first single. We have nothing.

[Jackie]

No, he just dropped it on his Instagram, and I was like, what am I looking at?

[Jaqui]

You are looking at potentially Harry Styles, peepee poo poo era peepee poo poo.

[Jackie]

And his dead pets.

[Jaqui]

I just want to let you know, so we'll see when the first single drops. Like, we'll see if it's real music. But this just looks like I'm in the studio, I'm on drugs, and I'm putting out a fart.

[Jackie]

I just want to say I'm almost, like, 100% sure like, it's a real album. It's an album that feels like a real album album. I don't think it's Peepee Poo Poo.

[Jaqui]

But what was the last album that came out that we thought was Peepee Poo Poo? Justin Bieber. Sway one.

[Jackie]

Swag.

[Jaqui]

Swag.

[Jackie]

Sway.

[Jaqui]

I'm cracking up.

[Jackie]

Swag. It did give Peepee Poo Poo because he didn't, like, announce it. He just, like, released it with a Billboard. And it was confusing, but.

[Jaqui]

And he.

[Jackie]

He was also acting. Peepee Poo Poo. Harry hasn't been acting. He's in a stable relationship. He wears trench coats and walks around the city like he hasn't been giving peepee poo poo. Justin Bieber was leading up to his album giving, like, on the fritz of some sort of manic episode. But just take your time, honey. I get it, I get it, I get it. It wasn't PB Poo, and I got nominated for Grammy.

[Jaqui]

Okay. Good luck to Harry.

[Jackie]

The way you got it all in my head I love that song. I think I'd rather you in my bed slay. Just take your time, honey. I get it, I get it, I get it. I would love to learn how to play the drums. I think there's something so sick. And I do have a lot of rhythm. Like, I'm joking. Like, you guys are gonna think I'm joking, but I'm not. I'm very musically inclined.

[Jaqui]

Like, I don't.

[Jackie]

I hear the ones and the twos.

[Jaqui]

Like, as do I. Yeah. Like, music theory. I don't have pitch, but I've got the five, six, I've got the eight count.

[Jackie]

I like when they say, like, I have beat, I have rhythm.

[Jaqui]

That's another great book that I couldn't find on Amazon, but it was, like, Harry's favorite when he was baby. It's called Bubby's Got the Beat. You would love.

[Jackie]

Oh, I'm familiar with it.

[Jaqui]

You know it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Where they're, like, getting ready for Shabbat.

[Jaqui]

Yep. Walking with my family yeah, Looking mighty neat Gonna see my bubby she's got the beat.

[Jackie]

Ugh. Those inclusive Jewish books are so good.

[Jaqui]

Such a good book. I actually couldn't find it. I need to go back to the store where I first bought it, but it was, like, four years ago or. Yeah, we'll find it. We need to find it. It's the best book ever. And the kids would, like, love it now.

[Jackie]

So back to me playing drums really quick, I think.

[Jaqui]

Well, we were talking about this on the Patreon yesterday. Oh, like hobbies, things you want to learn. Like, if you want to learn how to play your arms. Like, if you meant that, do it.

[Jackie]

So the only thing is, I do feel I'm well equipped to be like an actually good drummer. I love music. I've got the beat. Like I said, I find myself like.

[Jaqui]

Oh, she's got the beat.

[Jackie]

I like, I'm always like tip tapping, you know, like a song's on. I'm like, you know?

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Except I do believe it takes enormous arm strength to be a successful drummer. Like, you have to be able to.

[Jaqui]

Well, that could be your workout.

[Jackie]

I know. It's like, I already really struggle to hold Ruby. Like, my arms are killing me. I literally have to go to the gym just to get in shape to hold Ruby. So I do feel like that would be the one thing holding me back. I would have to drum for, like, only short songs.

[Jaqui]

And you would be drumming to what end? Like, like to put on a concert for your family. Like, would you join like a little garage band? What would bring you joy?

[Jackie]

That's a really good question. Like, for what?

[Jaqui]

Like, you say you were taking lessons to play the drums and you were able to do. Would you get a drum set for your home to just like hobby drum? Would you join a bit? Like, what would you want to do with this skill? Cuz drummers kind of like need a community. It's not such a good solo act.

[Jackie]

Like, why do I want to learn drums? Like, right. These violent ends have violent beginnings. Like, what's the purpose? Cause and effect. Call the homer.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. What would you do with that skill? It's not like you could like, drum on the show.

[Jackie]

Because to be clear, I have no interest in being a band in a band as anything other than lead singer. Like, are you guys crazy?

[Jaqui]

Of course.

[Jackie]

Or it's like really sick when people, like, drum and sing at the same time. But again, I'm so out of shape.

[Jaqui]

That takes.

[Jackie]

I actually just saw a video of Hunter Hayes doing it because I'm obviously on Hunter Hayes Talk and he does this thing at his concerts when he plays like his biggest song, crazy, and I don't. And for the last chorus, he sits down and he's like, and I don't want it. And like, it's actually sick.

[Jaqui]

Is he on tour right now?

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm going to a show in April. Now that I've been connected with him because we spoke about him on the podcast. Did I tell you that him and I are messaging?

[Jaqui]

Well I saw that he clipped our thing and then we DM just a tiny bit.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But he knows I live in New.

[Jaqui]

York, so I didn't know there were shows to be going to.

[Jackie]

Yeah. April.

[Jaqui]

Oh, I'll check it out. Like, I would literally come to town. He's on my list of, like, Rascal flats. Kylie Clarkson will fly for Hunter Hayes.

[Jackie]

I think it's going to be an amazing concert. And, like, the fact, like, that it's in New York and it's a country artist. We're gonna get, like, an intimate venue. I don't know where it is, but I don't think it's, like, a huge, like, it's gonna be great.

[Jaqui]

Wow. Okay.

[Jackie]

I know it's crazy. Maybe Hunter will teach me how to play drums.

[Jaqui]

Maybe if you learn the drums in time for April, like, you could go and teach love. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Caitlyn Jenner is giving her seal of approval to Kylie and Timothy. I mean, how could you not? But a parent's literally, like, a father's dream. Yeah. Caitlyn was caught up with paparazzi at the airport. She told the Daily Mail.

[Jackie]

Was she wearing Hokas?

[Jaqui]

She was wearing sneakers.

[Jackie]

She loves a sensible, like, shoe.

[Jaqui]

She is an athlete.

[Jackie]

She's an athlete, first of all. She's also, like, an older woman, so, you know, you've got to get your orthotic, like, and she. When she wore Hokas to the Kardashian like, goodbye, El Dorado party, and they, like, showed her hocus first. I was cracking up. I wondered if that was, like, sponsored. It was such a good ad. They looked like brand new hocus hocas.

[Jaqui]

I need brand new hocus.

[Jackie]

Let me see what she's.

[Jaqui]

I'm classic Caitlyn Fit.

[Jackie]

I don't think those are hocus. So she was what, like, paparazzi?

[Jaqui]

Yeah, paparazzi. Daily Mail was asking her about Kylie and Timothy, and she said, I just want my daughter to be happy. And she is. And I like that. She called Timothy a great kid and a phenomenal actor before revealing that she has seen his new movie, Marty Supreme.

[Jackie]

I gotta see Marty Supreme. Like, it's just, like, holding me back from living my truest. And the more I learn about it, it's annoying. Like, I keep getting things spoiled like that. Fran Gesher's in it.

[Jaqui]

Like, o, thanks for spoiling that. And then Robert Pattinson, Robert Paton, and now stop.

[Jackie]

Okay? That's all I know. I'm just. I would like to have learned these things on my own. And Kevin o'.

[Jaqui]

Leary.

[Jackie]

Like, I didn't know that. Did you?

[Jaqui]

Like, I did, but I already forgot it and. Can you stop?

[Jackie]

Yeah, sorry, Sorry.

[Jaqui]

I love Kevin o'. Leary.

[Jackie]

I do wonder, like, if Kate gets together with Timothy and Kylie and what they do together. I could see them, like, all going, like, ATV riding or whatever.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. I feel. I. I mean, I feel like this relationship is any parent's dream. Like, they're together three years. She seems so happy. He's so, like, like, proud of her. With her, what's bad to say? But I also feel like Caitlyn, if she's kind of giving Donna Kelsey here, where it's like, she's not giving a lot because she's scared. And so it's like, oh, do you.

[Jackie]

Hate Timothy or are you being protected?

[Jaqui]

So it comes up as, like, aloofness, but it's mostly like, I'm just trying to honor their privacy because they're the most private couple in the world.

[Jackie]

That is the Donna Kelce effect. Like, are you. Do you hate this person or are you scared? Blink if you hate her and just don't if you are scared.

[Jaqui]

So I think Donna was scared and I think Caitlyn was as scared as Caitlin could be and just, like, doesn't want to piss off her daughters.

[Jackie]

And now having watched, like, three episodes of Traders with Donna Kelsey in it and, like, understanding, like, her, she's clearly, like, a scared person. It's insane that she would sign up for Traders or just, like, even, like, any opportunity in the public life because she's not really made for it. And now I feel even more certain than ever. Like, anytime she was asked in the beginning of, like, the Taylor days that, like, she was crapping her pants, like, she was so scared.

[Jaqui]

I don't. I don't think she's made for it, but I think for her to have these opportunities at, like, this stage in her life, like, it's inconceivable. It's. It's yolo. Like, my favorite show wants me on. Like, let's go for two days and see how the sauce gets me.

[Jackie]

She's just having fun.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

She's also, like, a single woman. Right. Their parents are divorced.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So she's just living life. She's on her Eat Pray, Love.

[Jaqui]

Right. So, like, when she's going on Today's show and they're asking her about Taylor, it's like, sure, she's not cut out for the Today show, but, like, you know, she's. I think she's in her yolo Era.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But she's far scum. Like, she just found herself at the center of this.

[Jaqui]

Like, in the center of culture.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And she does not know what to do with it quite yet. So she's just having fun.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Number four, new twist in the Ashley Tisdale Toxic Mom Group drama. Movie executives are eyeing a film version.

[Jackie]

Oh, God. Okay. Once I actually.

[Jaqui]

I disagree with you. I think it would be our favorite kind of movie. I know we're sick of, like, this particular.

[Jackie]

Is Ashley Tisdale like, executive producing it? No.

[Jaqui]

So other producers are interested in, like, turning the blog. The blog post into a movie. That's kind of what happened with Anna Delvey.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

It was originally just like, someone wrote up what happened with their crazy friend Anna. People bought it and then turned it into a movie. So I guess in this instance, like, they would be buying Ashley's thing and she would be a part of it. But you could also just make a movie about inspired. Inspired by Toxic Mom Group. This is our favorite genre.

[Jackie]

I mean, I feel like it would kind of be a good horror movie. You know what I mean?

[Jaqui]

No, it would be our favorite kind of movie. Like, rich mothers, like, doing things in fighting. There does need to be a murder.

[Jackie]

Right. Or, like, a lesbian triangle of some sorts. And that could be, like, the source of the toxicity.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

As it stands now, it's just, like, Ashley's feelings, which doesn't sound like an interesting movie, but.

[Jaqui]

But what did Ashley do? You know what was. Oh, maybe it's.

[Jackie]

Maybe it's like one of those. One of those books where it's, like, two different POVs. It's like. Like, Ashley's telling her POV about, like, how all these girls are being mean to her, and then it turns out like Ashley's actually in an institution, you know?

[Jaqui]

Also, like, that episode of 30 Rock where it's like, Liz was the bully the whole time. Like, she remembers high school where everyone played her, but it turned out like she was the asshole.

[Jackie]

All roads lead back to an episode of 30 Rock that is the funniest episode where she goes to a reunion. She brings Jack because she's, like, afraid of all these bullies, and they're like, what are you talking about? You were the meanest bitch ever. Liz is like, what are you talking about? You guys all bullied me. They were like, you bullied us. Like, oh, my God. Literally, I'm still in therapy. Literally. That is the funniest fucking episode.

[Jaqui]

I feel like that's what this could be. And so they'll obviously play it up for a movie. But, like, what was the incident that got Ashley, like, isolated from the group? And plus the fact that they're celebrities. So, like, any toxic mom group, like, if someone exits, like, nobody cares. Right. But I think there's a lot here for a movie. And our favorite kind of film.

[Jackie]

I know it sounds like kind of like Hunting Wives.

[Jaqui]

Ish.

[Jackie]

Then it was a toxic mom group after that.

[Jaqui]

Little Lies. Yeah, I know. We're fatigued by this particular story. And Ashley Tisdale French herself.

[Jackie]

Well, I just don't want Ashley involved in the creative, like, do you know what I mean? Because then it's biased.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. But I do think that they are going to, like, use her blog post because that's the only material on the matter.

[Jackie]

So I got two pieces of information, actually, about this mom group, and I feel like.

[Jaqui]

I feel like you could share the first one you got.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Jaqui]

You kind of got it from, like, an anonymous source.

[Jackie]

I did, but I verified it's, like, an extremely legitimate source. I just want to say, like, what I heard was that all alleged, it's.

[Jaqui]

Not Hillary who's the mean girl.

[Jackie]

Right. Like, the media and I think people like Ashley just let people think that, of course, like, the most famous Hillary, like, she's at the helm of the mean side. And what I heard from actually a pretty legitimate source is that Hillary is, like, so not the mean girl. She literally doesn't even care. It's, you know, the one who cooks. Allegedly.

[Jaqui]

Allegedly Ben Safer.

[Jackie]

And then what I also heard, and I won't say because I don't know if, like, this 100, but there is an extremely famous person in this mom group who hasn't been named. People don't realize that she's also a part of this group.

[Jaqui]

That's proprietary information. So for that, like, yeah, but yeah, I would watch this movie.

[Jackie]

I would watch.

[Jaqui]

I would watch it just to wrap it up. Yeah. If they.

[Jackie]

If they give it, like, a good. Get the big little lies treatment.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I feel that that's our favorite. Of course.

[Jaqui]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[Jackie]

I am.

[Jaqui]

Jennifer Lawrence thinks she missed out on a role in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood because Troll said that she was not pretty enough to play Sharon Taylor Tate.

[Jackie]

Now, I feel like every day this week we've been, like, you know, remarking on something Jennifer Lawrence has said. And up until this point, like, I was with her hashtag, I'm with her at this point. It's giving, like, you know, fishing for compliments like, obviously you're prettier than Sharon Tate. Like, please stop.

[Jaqui]

Well, I know I'm prettier than Sharon.

[Jackie]

I'm not pretty enough. I'm like, no, you?

[Jaqui]

No. And like the roll went to Margot Robbie who's like, equally pretty.

[Jackie]

Like, I wouldn't say that Margot Robbie is like insanely more pretty than Jennifer Lawrence. Like, these are two of the most beautiful.

[Jaqui]

Right. It's just a matter of like scheduling.

[Jackie]

And I'm like, already dealing with my own, like, self confidence issues. I actually really don't want to talk about this. I feel like it's going to be damaging to myself.

[Jaqui]

I feel like you might enjoy bits and bobs. There's a couple things here. Jennifer Lawrence is doing press for her movies. So she's giving a lot of interviews. And she's a very quotable woman because.

[Jackie]

You know, big personality.

[Jaqui]

She says what's on her mind. And she was asked about Quentin Tarantino's interest in working with her and if she would ever work with Tarantino. And she said that he did want her to star in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but she believes the online reactions to her potential casting are what dissuaded him. She said then everyone was like, she's not pretty enough to play Sharon Taylor. Hate. And then they didn't cast her. She said, I'm pretty sure it's true. Or it's that thing where I've been telling the story this way for so long that I believe it. No, I'm. But I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Or he was just never considering me for the part. And the Internet just like went out of their way to call me ugly.

[Jackie]

So I don't remember this. And I feel like when there is, you know, negative things to say about Jennifer Lawrence and, you know, I don't have anything negative to say, but the Internet does, like, you know, every now and then say like, you know, she's annoying. She tripped. Right. Like, remember that? And they say, you know, people started a bunch of rumors about her as it related to Harvey Weinstein. I have never heard anybody say that she's not pretty.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So like this, I feel like this is maybe like a figment of her imagination.

[Jaqui]

I agree. But that's how, like, she really experienced it. It really feels like that's what she thinks happened. I would give a little bit more credit to Quentin Tarantino. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I don't know the man. I just don't think he cares that much about what, like, mentally ill Stans have to say.

[Jaqui]

On Twitter, and if he thinks someone's the white right person for the role. You know, I keep. I always see this, like, fun fact about Inglourious Baster that they almost didn't make the movie because they could not find the right actor to play Christoph Waltz.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I mean, he's one of a kind. I don't know if he won any awards, but the way he sends a fucking chill down my spine, like the second Au revoir, Shoshana. That is, like, when. When it comes to, like, you know, what they'll watch in acting school, it is Christoph Waltz as the Nazi.

[Jaqui]

Right. So Quentin, who almost shelves a whole project because he couldn't get the casting right, isn't going to take casting direction from the Internet. But I guess, like, Jen heard that she was up for it and then saw that, and that's how she saw it play out.

[Jackie]

But I'm. She might have just lost the role.

[Jaqui]

I'm gonna give Quentin more credit than that. I am. And then also, she said the man.

[Jackie]

Decided to, like, pick up and move to Tel Aviv. He obviously does not care what people think of him.

[Jaqui]

Right. She also said that she was offered the role of Daisy in his movie the Hateful Eight, which ultimately went to Jennifer Jason Lee. She said, I turned it down. I should not have done that.

[Jackie]

That means nothing to me. I don't know what that movie.

[Jaqui]

I don't know.

[Jackie]

I thought you were saying Daisy and Daisy Jones and the Six, which, honestly. She would have been great.

[Jaqui]

She would have been great. She would have been really great. No, it hatefully came out in 2015, so, like, I wasn't paying attention.

[Jackie]

I love when people.

[Jaqui]

But I think it was like a, you know, all he's done, nine movies. Each one is bigger and better than the next. So I think to miss out on a Quentin project is a mistake.

[Jackie]

This is what we call, you know, missed miscasting news. What do we call it? Almost casting news. One of my favorites when, like, celebrities who made it and they're fine, do tell us, like, the big things they missed out on.

[Jaqui]

Ye. And it makes you, like, realize, like, oh, they're all kind of interchangeable. Like, they could have been great in that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. With the exception of, like, three movies. Titanic, miscast. No, no, no. I just mean, like, if you miss that one, you should feel bad.

[Jaqui]

Oh. But I also feel like if someone else played Rose or Jack, the movie still would have been great. That's what I mean by interchangeable. I don't feel personally connected to, like, Kate Winslet. As Rose, Leo. As Jack. Maybe more.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I don't know. I feel most connected to, of course, Victor Garber. Of course, no one else could have played that role.

[Jaqui]

Of course, the worst captain of all time.

[Jackie]

And I do think the film would have suffered. Like, it would not be though.

[Jaqui]

I do think he went down with the ship. Right.

[Jackie]

He didn't get on a life.

[Jaqui]

He didn't get. But there was a guy who got on a life raft who was like, responsible for the sinking. Insane. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's like a lot of survivors go with the Titanic.

[Jackie]

Do you think that if you were alive in 1912. Correct. Like, do you think you would have gotten on the Titanic? No, I feel like you're like, you don't like to be the first.

[Jaqui]

My personality is not. Oh, we're going. Like, that's like people who go to space right now.

[Jackie]

I don't know if I've said this before, but if I was alive in 1912, like Brian Kelly 100% would have invited me on the Titanic and I would have went.

[Jaqui]

I don't think you would have went, but you would have been invited. And then you always would have said, like, you know, I was invited.

[Jackie]

Oh my God, like my dinner party trick. Like, you guys hear about that boat?

[Jaqui]

Like, you know, I was invited on the Titanic.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

But I couldn't go.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Cuz I podcast every day.

[Jaqui]

That's what I think would have happened. I would not have gone. No.

[Jackie]

That's interesting.

[Jaqui]

No, I am.

[Jackie]

I feel like I'm having deja vu that we had this conversation once before and I asked, like, I literally texted Brian and was like, if you were alive in 1912, do you think you would have gone on the Titanic? He would have.

[Jaqui]

But I also feel like the Titanic was very much like a means of getting somewhere, not just like a fun, fun thing to do.

[Jackie]

So unless you had to get to.

[Jaqui]

New York more in the business of fun things like traveling for fun. Right.

[Jackie]

And wasn't it leaving London?

[Jaqui]

Yeah, it was leaving the uk, coming to America, so made a couple stops along the coast.

[Jackie]

Oh, really? So do you. Are there people who, like, got off the Titanic?

[Jaqui]

No, no, no. It was picking people up. Like, everyone was going to the US but from a couple ports.

[Jackie]

Picking up more victims.

[Jaqui]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Cool. Well, those are the Fast 5 stories. The show is not over yet because it is time for Queenie and Weenie of the week. Every Friday, Jackie and I just like to tie up the week with a little bow, with a segment we just call Queenie and Weenie of the Week. It's extremely self explanatory. We give out two awards. Queenie of the week and Weenie of the Week Again. You're queening. You might be Queenie. You are a weenie. You might be weenie. Let's start. What do we wanted to start with? Queenie.

[Jaqui]

Queenie. I have two Queenies. If I may, please. My first Queenie is someone who really influenced my week for the better mood booster, if you will. And that's Pitbull. I was listening to old Pitbull music and he's just such a king. The music is so good. His lyrics are so funny. He's just cracking me up like that sort of energy, positivity. I love it. And then I saw a story today that I didn't pick as a story because I was going to share it during my Queenie which is that he's going on tour, a North American tour with Little John and I and I actually think I'm going to go.

[Jackie]

I have to say I think he's.

[Jaqui]

Now an artist I will travel for.

[Jackie]

We have had this conversation before and it was like a little bit jokey, like we're going to see people in concert. People flooded to the comments being like, I have to tell you, I saw Pipple in concert. Like I got free tickets from work or whatever and it was the best concert they'd ever been to to. He should have a Vegas residency.

[Jaqui]

He should do the Super Bowl. I was listening to his discography. He's worked with everyone, bring out so many guests. I have said this for years. Nobody listens to me.

[Jackie]

Wait, we have like a hall of fame of people who should. Who haven't done the super bowl yet, obviously, like Taylor Swift, Kelly Clarkson, Pink pit bull.

[Jaqui]

I. Oh. Every time I say Pitbull.

[Jackie]

Nobody say that.

[Jaqui]

Nobody's listening. So he is one of my Queenies of the week for making my commute so par g and reminding me like why, why, why I got up in the morning why he is who he is. Love that. My other Queenie of the week is Sydney Sweeney for meeting with the two hostages Noah and Avinatan. And she just like does not give a. Yeah. And it's very refreshing in this cold, cold world.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

Who's your Queenie?

[Jackie]

Who was my Queenie? I wrote it down but I want to see if I can remember it. A little brain camp.

[Jaqui]

Brain camp. The word I was looking for yesterday, I think it was on the Patreon when I was looking for a word and we were talking about Traders was wild card.

[Jackie]

Oh, I remember Brain camp. Okay. My Queenie of the week is not a person. It's not a place. It's more of a thing. It is this 2016 trend. All week, people have been sharing, like, throwback pictures. When I tell you this trend, and I think trends are stupid. Like, I'm not everyone to be like, I love this trend. It's bringing me so much joy. One, it's like, you know, we're getting our shine as millennials. Like, yes. And it just reminded me of, like, simpler times and it, like, obviously people in my, you know, close. Peripheral. Peripheral friends and family, like, sharing and then I seeing, like, old pictures of myself. But I've really been enjoying other people's. I feel like we get to a boiling point with trend that, like, everybody does it. Every, like, brand, and I'm like, so over it. No, the brands are doing it. I'm loving it. Like, it's a trip down such a fun time in my life that I didn't, like, I've been getting a lot of joy from it.

[Jaqui]

I agree. I'm really enjoying other people's family and friends. I see myself and also, like, you know, remembering the good old days. But other influencers who one either I did follow, I'm like, oh, my God.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you shout out to Amanda Stanton. Did you see hers?

[Jaqui]

Oh, no, but I saw. I was thinking of Jade Roper Tilbert, and it was such. It's such a time capsule.

[Jackie]

Yes. Literally, Amanda Stanton's was, like, pictures of her and Lauren Lane, Ashley I from the Bachelor, her cover of Us Weekly. Why I trust Josh. Okay. Like, it was. I loved it. So usually, like, once, like, people, like, everybody starts doing a trend, I, like, start to hate it. I cannot stop scrolling.

[Jaqui]

Should I do it? I looked through my 2016 photos just to be like, oh, what was I doing? But I was like, oh, no, I won't post, but maybe I should pose.

[Jackie]

You should. And you could look through, like, your Snapchat memories. Like, that's a really good way to find stuff.

[Jaqui]

Yeah. Also, then there are people who I follow now who I didn't follow back then, who I'm like, oh, that's what you were up to.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

Interesting.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

So I agree. That's been a fun. A fun one.

[Jackie]

Now my Weenie of the week goes to Kiefer Sutherland, obviously, for assaulting his Uber driver, as we reported yesterday. But obviously, because that's bad. Right? But more so, like, he made me look bad because I'm always telling celebrities to take Ubers and he did.

[Jaqui]

And you don't like that. And you don't take that lightly.

[Jackie]

I don't. Yeah. I felt it was a personal assault, not only on the driver, but on me as well.

[Jaqui]

What about you, my weenie?

[Jackie]

Do you not have one?

[Jaqui]

I don't really have one because I was like, I was gonna go for two Queenies. Okay.

[Jackie]

Also, honorable mention to the person who designed Harry Styles album that's also like a weenie.

[Jaqui]

Oh, yeah. Though I don't think it was like a person. I think it was like a chatbot. Hi, Harry.

[Jackie]

Oh, wow. Jackie's really convinced this is a peepee poo poo.

[Jaqui]

I'm not convinced, but I think that because I actually. I don't think he's at a place in his career where he's going to put out pee pee poo poo. But I do think everything that he's given us is pee pee poo poo. And we can't ignore that.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

And we're just ignoring it because why? Because we like him.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's why. And he.

[Jaqui]

And. And that's bias.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jaqui]

And we have to confront our biases.

[Jackie]

Okay. Confront your biases, girl. Confront them. I love that. I love that.

[Jaqui]

So that's all.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So sad. I hate to just, you know, know, as they say, bidding is such sweet sorrow.

[Jaqui]

It is. But we're actually about to podcast right again right after this. We're doing a Patreon episode, so head over to patreon.com toast if you want more toast. Especially on Monday. We're not doing a show. So if you're like, oh, sad, no show. Like, there's literally 300 plus episodes on the Patreon.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And today we'll be recording like a Parenthood themed one. Because I'm just getting inundated with Parenthood questions.

[Jaqui]

I also feel like I need to say this. I feel like when we talk about Patreon, if you've never heard of Patreon, you're like, what the hell is that? It's just like a website. You go to patreon.com the toast and you make a login and literally it's like, like a blog full of like hundreds of podcast episodes.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So it's $7.99 per month. And with that, you get five extra episodes every month from us, but you also get access to every month's five episodes for the last.

[Jaqui]

Yeah, you get everything that came before it.

[Jackie]

There must be like 500 episodes on there now. There's vlogs, like famous ones, of course, the great chili. Cook off. Jackie dressing me for St. Barts, cleaning out closets. Jackie Stroller reviews. We have, like, parenthood stuff. Olivia comes on, Ben comes on. We do cooking, like, and you can go back and watch all of it.

[Jaqui]

And it's much more personal, less, like celebrity focused, even though we do then.

[Jackie]

Do episodes that are like pop culture, you know, TV recap, deep dives on, like, you know, famous couples throughout history. We actually did do a famous couple.

[Jaqui]

We had to. We get really creative over there and it's like, don't be intimidated. It's just a website and you can or you could download the app, but it's like, really easy to use. It's kind of like only fans or substack. It's just a subscription service.

[Jackie]

And then once you do subscribe, you can get those episodes on, like, your Apple or Spotify if you're tech savvy.

[Jaqui]

Like, you could put the RSS into your PO podcast app.

[Jackie]

It's super easy. And then you get access to our Facebook group, too.

[Jaqui]

Oh, yeah. So just like, I just wanted to remind everyone.

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, that's our show, y'. All. Thank you so much for listening to the toastma morning show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday. YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcast and web podcast can be found Spotify, itunes, Teacher Public radio, I Ready Castbox. All the places listen to podcasts about a beautiful, stunning and about how wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing weekend again. We are off on Monday for Martin Luther Kingdom and we will see you on Tuesday.

[Jaqui]

Love ya. Bye.