A Very Berry Wednesderry: Wednesday, March 11th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – "A Very Berry Wednesderry" (March 11, 2026)

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Episode Theme:
A lively, sisterly rundown of the "Fast Five" pop culture stories you need to know, with spirited discussions about daylight savings, celebrity podcasts, reality TV, dubious gossip rumors, and brand new partnerships in the Spritz Society universe.

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Main Theme & Episode Purpose

Jackie and Claudia kick off their Wednesday with a "berry" special announcement—the launch of Spritz Society’s first non-alcoholic drink, a blueberry hydration/electrolyte collab with Kiehl's. From there, the duo riff on the confusion of daylight savings, dissect the phenomenon of failed celebrity podcasts, review current pop culture news (including reality TV recaps and gossip corrections), and close with reflections on Vanity Fair covers, Broadway buzz, self-care, and celebrity relationships. The show delivers news, snark, and sibling banter for a breezy millennial morning.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Daylight Savings Complaints & Sisterhood Mornings

• (00:24–02:24)
  • Jackie and Claudia bemoan waking up to darkness due to daylight savings.
  • Unsure why daylight savings exists, they joke that nobody truly knows if it was “for the farmers” (01:03).
  • Despite complaints, they admit to loving the longer evenings:
    • "Through sisterhood, I'm reminded that I actually like this time of year because it stays light out longer." – Jackie (01:27)
  • Bedtime chaos in their households due to the sun's late setting.

2. Spritz Society x Kiehl’s Launch

• (02:22–05:15)
  • Major announcement: First non-alc, blueberry electrolyte drink in collab with Kiehl’s (02:22).
  • Gushing over Kiehl’s as the only good skincare company and praising the Ultra Facial Cream (03:30).
  • Ben is vlogging the launch event in New York, traveling in diva style—via helicopter.
  • Electrolyte habits discussed:
    • "If you start your day with electrolytes before your coffee, you are better than 98% of people." – Claudia quoting a viral reel (05:15)

3. Podcast Persistence & The “Failed Podcast” List

• (05:34–10:01)
  • Banter about being in the top 1% of podcasters simply by lasting more than three episodes.
    • "If you make it past your third episode, you're already doing better than 98% of failed podcasts." – Claudia (05:42)
  • Discuss "Confessions of a Female Founder," Ashley Graham, Jay Cutler, Ellen Pompeo, Emily Ratajkowski, Phineas, and more on their running list of celebrity podcast flops.
  • Phineas called out intensely:
    • "I don't know if there's anyone I hate more than Finneas...something deeply sinister and I want to say downright evil about him." – Claudia (07:16)

4. Summer House Recap & Reality TV Dynamics

• (10:12–12:43, 54:39–59:45)
  • Jackie: "It's not a good season..." – feeling the show is stuck, lacking a central story.
  • Claudia praises Amanda for her post-divorce dignity:
    • "It's actually really almost admirable how she refuses to join in on the joyous celebration that everyone is clowning on her ex husband." – Claudia (11:48)
  • Dynamic between Sierra and Wes is analyzed (55:28–56:36).
  • Kyle's financial decisions and support among friends becomes a subplot.

5. Dumois Rumor Corrections & Ethics of Gossip

• (17:52–26:07)
  • The fallout of Dumois mistaking Braxton Berrios' companion for ex Sophia Culpo.
  • Hot debate: Can Braxton have attractive platonic female friends?
  • Discuss what happens when gossip sites get it wrong—Dumois takes heat but usually tries to verify with photographic evidence (23:23).
  • Jackie reflects:
    • "In the last few months, she's engaged in more responsible reporting...building up a media outlet." – Jackie (23:02)
  • Recalls the Ariel Charnis incident—misreporting can have real repercussions (26:07).

6. Pop Culture Fast Five

• Home Renovations & The Kelseys (26:16–30:21)

  • Travis and Jason Kelce prank-call their mom about her "giant" home reno after TMZ tracks a permit—actually, she's just getting new windows because of condensation.

• Talk Show Hosting Rumors (31:27–34:53)

  • Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir rumored to replace Kelly Clarkson. Hosts are “very open” to the idea, noting, “It’s never been done before,” and pondering how a duo would fare in the talk show format (32:06).
  • "If they bring that energy, I'm very down." – Claudia (32:06)

• Biopic News – Bon Jovi (36:06–38:48)

  • Universal is developing a Bon Jovi film. Claudia quips:
    • "He gives just 'dad from New Jersey' vibes...so I don't know how interesting of a movie that is." (37:13)

• Dancing with the Stars on Broadway (43:11–44:43)

  • Whitney Leavitt and Mark Ballas to star together in Chicago; tickets are in high demand.

• Kylie Jenner’s Vanity Fair Cover (48:07–53:07)

  • Kylie’s dramatic transformation on cover.
  • Claudia:
    • "I can't be the only person who didn't know that was her. I thought it was the girl from Bridgerton, Season two." (48:22)

7. Health, Aging, Skin Care, and Self-Image

• Jackie shares a skincare/filler journey:
  • Decides against ever getting a facelift, but plans to increase sun protection:
    • "If I want to age gracefully without getting a facelift, I think I need to cut back on my sun. Less sun, more fraudulent tan." – Claudia (47:19)

8. Other Notable Pop Culture Moments

• "Do you remember our list of failed celebrity podcasts?" – Jackie (06:01)
• The dynamic of Traitors, Queer Eye drama, Magnolia Channel cross-branding.
• The phenomenon of creators as "the new Late Night" for press appearances.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Description | Timestamps | |---------|-------------|------------| | Daylight Savings Confusion | Riffs on time, bedtime chaos | 00:24–02:24 | | Spritz x Kiehl’s Launch | Product talk, Ben’s adventure | 02:22–05:15 | | Podcast Longevity & Failed List | Statistics, celebrity flops | 05:34–12:00 | | Summer House Recap and Relationship Talk | Show critique, Amanda’s dignity | 10:12–12:43, 54:39–59:45 | | Dumois Rumor Error | The Braxton Berrios 'scandal' | 17:52–26:07 | | The Kelsey Mom Renovation | TMZ permit story, Queer Eye banter | 26:16–30:21 | | Tara & Johnny Rumored as Talk Hosts | Duo hosting debate, Chicks in the Office clip | 31:27–34:53 | | Biopic News: Bon Jovi | Vibes and casting speculation | 36:06–38:48 | | Broadway: Chicago Casting | Whitney & Mark Ballas excitement | 43:11–44:43 | | Kylie’s Vanity Fair Cover | Recognition confusion, acting aspirations | 48:07–53:07 | | Health/Aging Reflections | Sun, skin care, no facelifts | 45:44–47:46 |

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Notable/Memorable Quotes

• "If you start your day with electrolytes before your coffee, you are better than 98% of people."
  – Claudia (05:15)

• "If you make it past your third episode, you're already doing better than 98% of failed podcasts."
  – Claudia (05:42)

• "I don't know if there's anyone I hate more than Finneas...something deeply sinister and I want to say downright evil about him."
  – Claudia (07:16)

• "It's actually really almost admirable how Amanda refuses to join in on the joyous celebration that everyone is clowning on her ex husband."
  – Claudia (11:48)

• "In the last few months, she's engaged in more responsible reporting...building up a media outlet."
  – Jackie (23:02) on Dumois

• "He gives just 'dad from New Jersey' vibes...so I don't know how interesting of a movie that is."
  – Claudia (37:13) on Jon Bon Jovi

• "If I want to age gracefully without getting a facelift, I think I need to cut back on my sun. Less sun, more fraudulent tan."
  – Claudia (47:19)

• "I can't be the only person who didn't know that was her. I thought it was the girl from Bridgerton, Season two."
  – Claudia (48:22) about Kylie Jenner's Vanity Fair cover

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Tone & Style

Jackie and Claudia bring signature millennial humor, sarcasm, and candid sisterly warmth. They alternate between pop-centric snark, genuine reflection, and full-on roast; the tone is irreverent, relatable, and plugged-in.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• You’ll be fully caught up on the latest Spritz/Kiehl’s launch, inside reality TV and pop culture gossip, the state of the celebrity podcast graveyard, and the shifting talk show landscape.
• Personal anecdotes and self-care strategies round out the dose of news.
• The show’s core: a swirl of internet-savvy takes, brand launches, TV reviews, and loving sibling roasting—one of the most energetic, conversational “morning shows” in podcasting.

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Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[B]

It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[A]

They sound amazing.

[B]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. Yeah, I think. Sorry, we just have so much going on as successful business women that I can't like, keep what day of the week it is. It's kind of none of my business.

[A]

No. And so much has already happened. This morning I got such a morning.

[B]

I was up with the sun that.

[A]

What? I already had a day, so maybe it's Thursday.

[B]

I actually was up with the sun. I watched the sunrise.

[A]

Well, that's the beautiful thing about this portion of the daylight savings.

[B]

No. Because I shouldn't have to wake up to my alarm at 7 and it'd be pitch black. Like, that's low key absurd. I don't know why people can't get it right. Like with the time I wake up, it should be bright and when I go to bed, it should be dark. I don't know. Like, why daylight savings?

[A]

You're a farmer.

[B]

No. And I just want to say something else about daylight savings. Every time you're a farmer, every time we talk about daylight savings, people are like, guys, you're wrong. It's not for the farmers. And then people are like, yes, it is. Like, nobody knows why everyone's always coming at us like, we're wrong about daylight savings. But you don't know. Like, what is it for? Nobody actually knows. Every time we talk about it, people are like, you guys are so wrong. And people are like, no, they're actually right. I don't care if we're wrong or right. It seems like nobody knows what the fuck. It's four.

[A]

Even though this is the lesser of the savings because we lost the hour of love and friendship and fortitude and sisterhood and fulfillment. Basically said through sisterhood, I'm reminded that I actually like this time of year because it stays light out longer.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We always, like, go outside after dinner, which we did last night. And we had like a whole nother portion of our evening.

[B]

No, that's great.

[A]

However, then by the time, like, all the kids were down, it was like. And I could get my wits about me and I had to take my shower. It's like 8:30 and I have no night.

[B]

Yeah. And also, like, I'm like a kind of a bedtime Nazi. Like, just because it's bright out, like, we're so. We Keep the bedtime. So it's like I'm putting rude to bed. It's bright out. Like the sun is in our eyes as we're giving the final bottle. It makes no sense.

[A]

I find that the bedtimes change with the seasons in my household because remember when I did my big push up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A couple months ago. That was after daylight savings. I was like, it's dark out. Let these kids go to sleep. So we're also say we're a bunch of farmers in my house. Like, we're up and down with the sun.

[B]

We're farmers, but also businesswomen. We are very excited to announce kind of major launch in the Spritz Society universe today. You know we do a lot of collaborations, right? Of course. Our famous cloth and pickle Collab. We did V8 Bloody Mary collab. We are doing for the very first time ever a non alcoholic Q lab. So this is for the sober sisters, for the people who just don't want to turn up. It is in collaboration with Kiehl's, which is one of the parties, actually. We went on like a whole tirade about Kiehl's a year ago, how it's like the only good skincare company out there and we are honored to have made our first non alcoholic beverage with them. It's a hydration drink. It's low calorie. It's delicious. It's blueberry. It's all about feeling hydrated. It's all about feeling refreshed. Here's the can. If I could get a little close up. It is our ultra berry, mixed berry and electrolyte beverage. It's so good. I have to say, Ben really crushed this one.

[A]

A little opening ASMR. Shall we?

[B]

10 calories, 0 grams of sugar.

[A]

Are you ready for the pop?

[B]

Packed with electrolytes. Launching today, noon eastern. By the time this episode goes up, it is a limited quantity, so I would just like make haste if mighty tasty, if you're interested. And it's all to promote. You have the.

[A]

Yes. The Kiehl's ultra facial cream. This is the one, you guys. This is The 1 of 1. The Kiehl's Ultra facial cream. We are major Kiehl's fans in our household, in our sisterhood. Yeah, we've been for a long time. And if you need a great cream, Ultra face facial cream from Kiehl's.

[B]

Ben's actually in New York today hosting a meet and greet. Okay. Like diva extraordinaire. Oh. And he's blogging the whole Thing I meant to tell you. And of course, in the most Ben fashion, Ben doesn't like to like spend the night away. So he's in and out today. So we flew out like at the crack of dawn this morning. He's sitting on the tarmac in New York, already late. So what does he do? Perfect for the vlog. He texts a guy. You know Ben's already in the city because he took a helicopter from jfk. It's gonna be the vlog of a century. Honestly, I said to him, I'm like, don't forget, like, you have to film everything. Ben's never vlogged before. So I'm like, bring your microphone. I'm like, you have to vlog in the Uber. And he's like, I'm crushing it. I'm crushing it. I'm actually afraid the Spritz social media gal will be handling most of it once he's there. But up until then, like Ben is responsible. He's vlogging from the helicopter.

[A]

So Ben I'm so excited to see. I feel like it's when you give it, like when you give a kid a phone and they like take all their pictures and you see the day from their eyes.

[B]

I just want to say, if you want to get Spritz x keels, go to spritzsociety.com ultraberry. It launches today, March 11th at 12:00pm Eastern Time. Oh, you know what else I found out? We're not saying Eastern standard time because

[A]

we're not on standard.

[B]

Right. It's Eastern Daylight Time, EDT. Isn't that crazy?

[A]

I'll stick with E.T.

[B]

yeah, I just want to say that's something like, like daylight savings has messed with me enough. Like I'm not doing that. We're not doing that.

[A]

No. Wow. Okay, well. Sprits society.com ultraberry it's actually delicious. And it's electrolytes. You know, I start every day with electrolytes. You know that.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

I saw a real once, of course that was like a hundred percent of people like start their day with like coffee or whatever. And then he said if you start your day with electrolytes before your coffee, you are better than 98% of people. It's a small thing. And then he told me like chia seeds and all this other stuff, which nobody has time for that. But still I'm like 98%.

[B]

We also, that's one of my favorite statistics. We're like better than 99% of podcasters. Cuz most podcasters never make it Past, like, their fifth episode or whatever.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

So if you make. Yeah, what's that sad? It's like if you make it past your third episode, you're already doing better than, like 98% of failed podcast.

[A]

It feels like such a low bar.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I feel like.

[B]

I think it might be a really

[A]

old statistic where there are just so many podcasts where people are like, let's start, like, not even influencers, celebrities, just like, friends who put out a couple episodes. I feel like, oh, my God.

[B]

Do you remember our list of failed celebrity podcasts?

[A]

Yeah. Do you want to add to it?

[B]

No, no, we just need to remember that. That, that we have that.

[A]

Yeah, but, you know, they die with a whimper, not a thud.

[B]

I know. It's Confessions of a Female Founder.

[A]

It's called the Confessions of a Female Founder list.

[B]

No, the list is Ashley Graham inspired, at least for me. Do you remember when her podcast Biggest Deal and Kim went on it?

[A]

No, I don't. For me, when I think of that, we have Olivia and Margot on and Schmitz.

[B]

Yeah, but Ben is not a failed podcaster. He just had a failed podcast.

[A]

Okay. I didn't say Ben makes it Schmitz. Yeah. When I think of that list, whomst comes to mind?

[B]

Anna Faris.

[A]

No, Ellen Pompeo. We discussed. Anna Faris is not a failed podcaster. Like, she's a retired one.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Emily Ratajkowski. Remember when her podcast was the biggest deal that ever launched?

[B]

Yeah. And it was like an international. It was like a Sony produced.

[A]

And then also I just think of one of the COVID podcasts of some Good news. No, Phineas. And they did they. Yeah, they bought a house and then they called it We Bought a House.

[B]

Is that on the list? It should be.

[A]

That's like one of my, like, go to Covid podcasts.

[B]

I have to tell you, I hate a lot of people.

[A]

I'll search Ashley Graham.

[B]

And I don't know if there's anyone I hate more than Finneas. I think there is, like, something deeply sinister and I want to say downright evil about him. Like, he said, I saw like. And he just says, like, kind of really just like hateful things and nobody bats an eye. He, like, was hating on Taylor Swift, as him and his meshuggana sister do, and he was like, she's sort of like the Israel of the music industry. Like, as an. As a slur. Like, the way I fucking hate Phineas. And honestly, if I ever see him in person, it's on fucking site. Bitch. Okay, sorry. Continue.

[A]

Do you want to hear the list?

[B]

Yay. I love the list. The list of, like, celebrity podcasts that were at once the biggest deal in the world and then just died so slowly and quietly.

[A]

Yeah. Jay Cutler is the top of the list. I didn't know his podcast was over.

[B]

Why would he be the top? I didn't know he had a podcast.

[A]

No, we knew he. Because remember, he had Sophia with an F on and we were shipping and then he was always causing drama with his podcast.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember, but

[A]

I didn't know it was over. No. And he's so the elk of podcaster.

[B]

These podcasts just, like bring me back, you know, like nostalgia.

[A]

Everyone is a trip down. Emily.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Not only is Confessions of a Female Founder now have to be on it.

[B]

Archetypes.

[A]

Archetypes.

[B]

Yeah. She's a double platinum award winning podcaster.

[A]

Confessions of a Female Founder was not previously on. So I just added that.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm saying we kind of forgot about this list. But it's one of our most important lists.

[A]

Archetypes. Kim's Spotify podcast about, of course, social justice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Michelle Obama wants the biggest deal.

[B]

I feel like releases episodes.

[A]

She's a new podcast.

[B]

Oh, the other one, the Spotify one.

[A]

When we, like, early in our podcasting, he's like, she was always in the chat.

[B]

She legitimized the industry a lot.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And then.

[B]

No, she has a new one with her brother that I think is, like, not popular.

[A]

What I think is, like, not popular.

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

Oh, okay, cool.

[B]

Does that mean. Sorry. Like, I actually. I'm sorry. Did not mean that to be shade at all. I didn't say it wasn't good. I just said it wasn't popular.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't see it on the charts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know, I'm always talking the

[A]

charts, so I feel like she's not kind of like a fail passer. She's retired and then came out of retirement. Like.

[B]

Yeah, when I think of the list, I don't think of her.

[A]

No. She put in her time as a

[B]

pod and she was at one point a successful podcaster. This list is for people whose podcasts were launched, made it such a big deal. Emily Ratajkowski. And like, not only did it not succeed, it actually ended.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it was so bad and poorly received it. And I would take Michelle Obama off that list.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Ashley Graham.

[B]

That to me, she's the blueprint for the list.

[A]

Anderson Cooper. What? Learning something new Every day. Ellen Pompeo.

[B]

Yeah, she's sort of like a founding father of this list.

[A]

Margaret and Olivia Ashrae.

[B]

Classic.

[A]

And Phineas and Claudia.

[B]

Okay, so that's fair.

[A]

That's fair.

[B]

Oh, I love when we take a walk down Listy Lane.

[A]

Misty Lane. My favorite place near.

[B]

Me too. What else? What did I do last night? What else? I watched Rachel Ray.

[A]

I watched Summer House. Oh, and I have something to say. It's not a good season.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's been six episodes. Every time I start the episode, I'm like, wait, is this the right episode? I feel like I've watched this already and I go back into. And I find it again. I'm like, oh, this is the new episode. Okay. It's not good. Last night, like, Ben, the new guy, Ben was like, yelling at Bailey, like, stop it. She made, like, a bad joke that made everyone feel awkward. Like, she joked about how Ben wants to sleep with Amanda, but it's like, okay, so she made a bad joke.

[B]

I don't know. That's kind of a crazy joke.

[A]

Well, they always talk about how they went skinny to the south of France. And, like, he does kind of.

[B]

They're, like, insinuating him. She just, like, said it.

[A]

Yeah. No, and it was, like, uncomfortable and awkward. Sure, but she's like, an awkward girl. Leave her alone.

[B]

So it's her first time on.

[A]

She's not ill intended.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I'm glad that it's bad because I'm not watching it, but I'm glad that you are watching it because you did say something that actually really has changed my perspective a lot on Amanda. Because at first when she got divorced and everybody was championing her, like, stop championing her. Like, this was her choice. Like, we all knew. Like, we told her a million times, like, she's not free. She was. She. She was in self imposed prison. Like, and I actually really don't, like, feel bad for or, like, champion her at all. But you did point out, and now I saw her. She just went on Jason Tardick's podcast, and I was just watching clips. And it's actually really almost admirable how she sort of refuses to join in on, like, the joyous celebration that everyone is, like, clowning on her ex husband. Like, we always are demanding, like, asking people to, like, stop spreading their ass cheeks open and, like, telling us what happened in their relationship. Like, can nothing be private? And can. Can you not just, like, have respect for the person who you once loved,

[A]

who was your family?

[B]

And she's actually the first person in recent memory to, like, not go down that rabbit hole, like, tell all podcasts. And every time she goes on a podcast, every time she talks about Kyle, it is with the utmost respect. And you, like, maybe he wasn't a great husband, but, like, he does deserve that sort of, like, privacy and respect. And so you really did change my perspective on that.

[A]

Yeah. It would be so easy for her to be like, yeah, f everyone would

[B]

love it, she could write a book.

[A]

Yeah. But I think that this is, like, way classier and ultimately, like, both. It speaks better of her. It's like, oh, you did love this person. It's not like I just had, like, flip the switch, and now it's like the opposite. Because you champion this person for so many years, and now what you, like, you don't. He's the same person. It's not like he did something. So he's the same person. And so it's like, you loved him then. Now you hate him. Like, now it's like, oh, you loved him, and now you can, like, respect and like him. So I think that that's a better look.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. It's actually really, like, endearing her to me. Yeah. But I'm not watching.

[A]

No. And I'll keep watching because also, it's like, Zach likes it too, but it's not a good season, and I just had to kind of. I think I can call it.

[B]

I don't know if it's going to be a story because, like, it didn't happen, but can we talk about duo really quickly?

[A]

It's a story because it didn't happen because, like, stuff happened.

[B]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, stuff happened. In regards to the things that didn't happen.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And the things in which we hide from the light.

[A]

And in regards to the things that didn't happen, I feel like we should get into things that did and did not happen in the fast five. Things that did in the fast five stories that you dot do need to know.

[B]

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[A]

Nope.

[B]

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[A]

Let's start with what you mentioned. Dumois. Let's just finish that thought because I

[B]

actually got to clutch my pearls when Dumois said that this thing happened before I found out that it didn't happen. So in the one hour where I thought this thing happened, I was actually shocked. And it takes a lot to shock me.

[A]

I didn't have an hour with the news. I had a mere minute. But basically, Dumas posted a photo of Braxton Barrios walking in the street with a lady who looked like Sofia Culpo. And she said, braxton and Sofia spotted

[B]

together in New York. And let's talk about if that had happened really briefly. I was shook, especially because he was just chatting with Alex. And when I think about Braxton, like, my most recent thing is, like, we were talking about maybe them getting back together, yada yada. It ended so poorly with Sophia, and I think Sophia hates him and Sophia's in a new relationship, and it was just like kind of the messiest thing. So when I, I didn't know who I had less respect for, like, him or her. When I saw them together, I'm like, yeah, I was shocked. And then he left a comment saying it wasn't her. And I was like, okay, that makes a lot more sense.

[A]

Yeah, that would have been crazy if it was her. It also, like, would have invalidated his relationship with Alex. You know, he's going back to his ex and, like, that she would take him back. I mean, I just, I was like, oh, wow, that's really crazy. There must be, like, so much more information that we didn't know. But then he commented on the Dumois post saying, like, this was not Sophia. It's his friend from college. That's platonic.

[B]

So she got friend zoned real quick.

[A]

The real girl, like, had the Internet in a tizzy. I can't even tell you how many people sent me that in the span of the 1 hour it was up.

[B]

It's tizzy worthy. I just want to say it's really crazy for Anyone who was there at the time and remembers, like, all the drama Sofia Culpo podcast, them having like, lunch or whatever would have been the craziest thing. Like, I think Sofia Culpo, like, has a voodoo doll of Rexon. Like, she rightfully hates him.

[A]

Yeah. But now this begs the question, like, can Braxton Barrios have platonic female friends

[B]

who are like, young and sprightly and hot and look like ex girlfriends? Peers look enough like his ex girlfriend to be mistaken for her.

[A]

Right. Look enough like his ex girlfriend that he would be attracted to this look and is a friend of his. So he likes her inside. So why wouldn't that be a lady love?

[B]

Yeah. And I also feel like his comment was, like, mean. If this girl had any hopes of, like, Braxton falling in love with her, he just friend zoned her like, so fucking quickly in a comment section.

[A]

Yeah. But she must be, like, excited to be friends with Braxton. But I think, also I think he had to shut this shit down because of Alex. Not only would Alex be so hurt if he went back to his ex because isn't that just like, awful? The nightmare? Yeah. Like, oh, fudge, I didn't matter. But I do feel like they love and miss each other and like it's not completely over forever between them. Like there might be whatever was stopping them from being together. Like, if it could work itself out. Like he was traded to the Rams.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And starting first string.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That they could be together again. So he doesn't want to, like jeopardize his relationship with Alex, even though there's nothing right now but like, it would potential if he was with Sophia. She would never. It would be closed book.

[B]

Yeah. Is Braxton employed?

[A]

Like, yeah, the Houston.

[B]

I thought that was like a one year contract.

[A]

Well, I think we're getting into free agency season.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So maybe we'll be starting to hear some news.

[B]

Maybe he will be starting qb, unseating Matthew Stafford at the La Ray.

[A]

But he's not a quarterback.

[B]

Oh, he's a runner.

[A]

He. Is he a runner. He's a wide receiver.

[B]

I know.

[A]

He's not a tight end.

[B]

No. He participates in the game in the beginning of like a down when everybody kicks it and runs.

[A]

Running back.

[B]

I believe he kicks it.

[A]

No, I don't think he's not the kicker.

[B]

No. But not kicker of a field goal. Like the punter. He's a wide receiver. A return specialist. Yeah. Like, it's when you punt.

[A]

Like, it's like he catches the punt. It sounds like he catches it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Runs that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Such a specific job.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I can never do it.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Running, like.

[A]

But as far as football positions, what

[B]

position would I think I'd be best at? Great question.

[A]

I feel like kicker is so much pressure. It's the only point where it's, like, solely on your shoulders.

[B]

It's the only job where, like, the physical toll is not that big, but the mental load will break you.

[A]

Yeah. But the highs must be so high, like, when you score that. That extra three point that, like, get the game. Oh, man.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

The lows.

[B]

I think I would definitely thrive as water boy. Like, positive encouragement. Cheer. Yeah. Cheerleader, of course, comes to mind. Cheerleader. But I want to. Want to stunt on those hosts.

[A]

So Braxton and Sophia are not spotted together. We can all, like, move forward accordingly.

[B]

Can I ask you a question? Like, first of all, don't you think, like, Dumois and I think Dumont does a lot of good work, so I don't want to clown on her, but, like, this is kind of a grave error.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

First of all, like, what are the repercussions for something like this? And second of all, even though I feel like real news outlets misreport things all the time, like, pink. She just said I'm not getting. And where's the repercussions for, like, an actual journalistic institution? But, like, how is it, like, this is such a, like, flop.

[A]

I agree. And I feel like Drew's probably being hard on herself because Dew is probably

[B]

being hard on herself.

[A]

In the last few months, she's really sort of pivoted to being, like, a media outlet and a trusted source on

[B]

a couple of key topics.

[A]

And she always, like, had a couple breaking stories, but also a couple bad calls in the past. And so you always, like, oh, it's on. It's probably true, but maybe not. Like, keep your mind open for maybe that it's not true. But I do feel like in the last few months, she's, like, kind of engaged in more, like, responsible reporting, you know, is, like, a headline. She builds it like a media outlet. Right.

[B]

And she does usually have photographic evidence, which she actually did have, so she's

[A]

been trying to, like, shift instead of just being, like, you know, spotted and random things and an Instagram account. Like, she's really, like, building up, like, a little. I've noticed that DU is working on dudes Self. Self, so this is definitely a setback. However, everyone was talking about it, like, it kind of was, like, good for visibility.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As long as she doesn't get sued.

[B]

I do feel like when we talk about do, you know, there's like, a corner of the Internet that thinks I'm due.

[A]

I know. Do they still, though?

[B]

Yeah, I get tagged in this thing all the time. It's sort of like my cross to bear. I actually met do before do was Do. Do used to be, like, a fashion publicist. And I was at an event and, like, I took a picture with a bunch of people I don't know, and do was in it. And so they always do not know. It's the only known photo of do, and so they always use it. And, like, I think sometimes people just assume that I'm due or that, like, I'm in cahoots with Do. And then, of course, we can't talk about me being due without talking about kind of one of the best pranks I've ever pulled on April Fool's, which was making a video, like, announcing that I'm due. So people also think that video is real, you know, media literacy. So, yeah, I'm due.

[A]

I know you would love, like to. For people to think that you're doing that. So any of your favorite rumors about yourself?

[B]

Except I do think being do is kind of hard and, like, scary celebrities also really come for them a lot. Remember Hailey Weaver?

[A]

I had do on toast.

[B]

Oh, yeah. In what capacity?

[A]

So we. We were face to. We were zooming. I saw her because I did speak to someone that I can't see, and then it was only audio chilling. And I remember, I feel like she was talking about. I don't know if this was, like, on the show or like, when we were just, like, catching up before him. But, like, it's like she's an influencer and she's in the. When she was anonymous, I think she found it to be very isolating because it's like she can't just, like, go grab drink with her fellow influencers. But she's recently come out, right?

[B]

Well, she hasn't, like, come out, but everybody knows her name, and I don't think she cares.

[A]

It's not like a big and anonymous thing anymore.

[B]

It doesn't matter. What happened to, like, the TV show?

[A]

Remember which one?

[B]

She wrote a book. Yeah, you read it. And then it was being optioned for a show on Max, and it kind of sounds like a good concept, like New Age Gossip Girl.

[A]

It does feel like it got lost in the Max Shuffle.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

In the Paramount. Max to Max Shuffle.

[B]

Max go now.

[A]

Back to Max now.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Someone said it should be called the new one. Paramax.

[B]

A little long, but not bad. And I guess, like Netflix. Paramax.

[A]

It should be called Maxi.

[B]

It should just be called Max or hbo. Max. Whatever. It should just be called hbo.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

She just be called hbo.

[A]

Max Neester.

[B]

That's good too.

[A]

Maxwell. It should be called Maxwell.

[B]

I wanted to say one more thing about Jumois. What was it? Oh, the only real gripe I have with Dumont because, like, I do feel like she's just doing her best, and I feel like nobody hits Dumas more on this earth than Ariel Charnis.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that was bad.

[B]

That was really bad. Like, Dumas started, like, this whole thing with Ariel Charles. It turned out to be quite literally nothing.

[A]

Like, she literally said her husband was arrested. Yay.

[B]

Arrested at a brothel with a man. Like, really bad. And started.

[A]

Oh, and criminal. Oh, yeah. Resident. She said, like, he's arrested.

[B]

He's in cuffs. He got. Oh, no. They said he got arrested at Polo Bar.

[A]

Yeah. No, and then in Miami.

[B]

It was bad. Yeah, it was really bad.

[A]

He didn't get arrested.

[B]

I feel like that's actually a really big stain on her record.

[A]

I agree. When I think about her credibility, like, I don't know. That was really bad.

[B]

And I just know Ariel Charnis has a do voodoo doll.

[A]

Yeah, a doo doo doll. Are you ready for our next story? Travis Kelce is speaking out on Mama Kelsey's massive home renovations. So the whole cast Kelsey family is really dining out on this story, as they should. Jason and Travis took to the pod to talk about their mom renovating her house. Travis said that she could have called him to switch out some windows, but she's going the full monty.

[B]

They called their mom on the podcast, which was very like us calling snitch. And they were like, hey, we're recording. Like, do you want to tell us about this massive renovation? And she was cracking up. She's like, TMZ posted, and I'm just replacing the windows. She said it's actually been unseasonably cold in Orlando, and her windows are, like, very cheap and old.

[A]

She needs impact windows.

[B]

And so they were like, you know, condensation, like, and.

[A]

And that can provide mold. Right.

[B]

And so she said there was a leak, and so she's just doing some routine maintenance.

[A]

Well, I do hope after this.

[B]

Oh, and sorry. She had to file a permit. She said this is how TMZ found out she had to file a permit to replace the windows. And I guess they've got, like, a Google alert on her permits.

[A]

Oh, my.

[B]

And that's how they found out about her massive renovation.

[A]

Fucking cracking up. But I'm sorry if after this, like, Carson Kressley isn't down there with a camera.

[B]

What's Kohler? You know, the, Like, a home brand?

[A]

Like, honestly, the fabric bridge.

[B]

Paving stones with armor tech. They always look like new. She needs a new patio now.

[A]

The Fab Five, Queer Eye, they are, like, disbanded.

[B]

Their show is over. They all hate each other.

[A]

Still on. They were just doing press for the final season.

[B]

It's over.

[A]

Always the final.

[B]

And then Karamo didn't show up.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And Bobby left without, you know, a whimper in the night. And they got some new guy. It's bad.

[A]

I think the new guy. I think I've seen his stuff.

[B]

Jeremiah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

He was, like, up. And when they cast the original, he

[A]

was a bullfrog, right?

[B]

Yes, yes. That's how you know him from his bullfrog days.

[A]

They.

[B]

When they cast the original Fab Five, it was like, a bunch of unknowns who, like, did hair and whatever. But then when they needed to recast Bobby, they, like, brought in a name

[A]

and Tan still does the cooking. What does he do?

[B]

He never did the cooking. He did the styling.

[A]

Does Antonio do the cooking?

[B]

Anthony.

[A]

Anthony.

[B]

Yes. And I feel like that was the

[A]

craziest part of the show.

[B]

Why did they need a chef?

[A]

Like, to show this person how to eat healthier, you know? And sometimes it wasn't like, health is wealth. No. Like, if you're eating, like, crap, like, you know, it's how you feel about

[B]

yourself, just based on vibes. And I know there's been, like, a lot of drama, and I'm saying this with, like, quite literally no insider information. I do feel like the toxicity that's, like, always referred to by, like, now Bobby and Karma. I feel like it's. Anthony.

[A]

You don't think it was jvn?

[B]

No, I actually don't. Just a feeling.

[A]

I think it might have had to do with JVN and whoever's on his team.

[B]

Just a feeling.

[A]

And JVN still does it. That show was the craziest thing because when it came out, it was the best thing I've ever seen.

[B]

Busters.

[A]

And now it's like, you couldn't pay to watch.

[B]

Didn't even know they were still making seasons.

[A]

Yeah. But anyways, Donna needs something like that. Like, someone to come in, like, just total. Like, Joanna. I don't know if she still does that. I don't feel like she does.

[B]

She needs Joanna. Joanna does it for celebrity clients. Like, remember she renovated JLo's home?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Which is so crazy.

[A]

And they're, like, recording it for Magnolia.

[B]

They have, like, a lot of Magnolia projects.

[A]

I could see this being a Magnolia on Paramax Discovery.

[B]

Magnolia is its own channel.

[A]

It's under Discovery, though.

[B]

Yes. And according to them, Discoveries plus still exists. I don't know if anybody can confirm that, but.

[A]

So, yeah, they got in on the fun of the renovations. Kylie also talked about it on her podcast. Yeah, I didn't. I. I, like, I didn't get to watch the whole clip because it, like, I put my phone down and then I couldn't get back to it, you know, so classic. I always am, like, starting a clip and then if I. It was just in my algorithm.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I guess I could seek it out. I'd know where to find her. It's worse when it's like a random. Like. Wait, what was that?

[B]

That podcast? That'll. It's not. Not that it's a forgotten podcast by any means. It's very popular and she gets a lot of really good guests. But do you remember when it launched and, like, the New York Times wrote an article that she be Rogan? Like, that was so crazy.

[A]

They love to say that.

[B]

But she didn't beat Joe Rogan. She just launched a new podcast.

[A]

But her podcast has really become, like, an option as a stop, you know, like.

[B]

Yeah. Like how they wrote. Remember that article we were just talking about that, like, these creators are the new Late Night. Well, it's more like they're the new press junket. And there are a couple of key stops when you're promoting something. And yes. If you're a woman and you have kids, you go, I'm not going to lie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like she competes with, like, the Kelly Clarkson Joe.

[A]

Yes. But also, like, call her daddy Jake Shane. Like.

[B]

Yeah. For like a little bit of an older.

[A]

Yeah. Crowd. Yeah. Definitely a niche that she's serving.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh. And that actually leads perfectly into our next story because two people who were just. I'm not gonna lie. Who are in the news, Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir are reportedly being eyed to replace Kelly Clarkson. Thoughts?

[B]

Oh, wait. I love.

[A]

I'm very open to this. I think this is really interesting. And it.

[B]

It's never been done.

[A]

Just depending on if they're good at it, it could be good, and if they're not good, it could be bad. But I think that. That it's a left turn and I like it.

[B]

Okay. Because I was just watching a clip of them on Chicks in the Office talking about how they have matching Birkins and, like, the story of how they got the Birkins. And it wasn't, like, the craziest story ever, but it was just, like, a good story and they were telling it really well. And I found myself really enjoying the clip.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm thinking that if they bring that energy, I'm very down. I. I don't know what it looks like for a duo to host a talk show. It's never been done before, but, like, you know, they got it. They gotta reinvent the format because it's, like, not so, like, modern. Yeah.

[A]

And it's, like, ripe for riffing on, like, you know, it's not so singular that you have to do it this way. They could have fun with it as long as they, like, have guests on and let them talk. Because, like, it's a lot of people talking.

[B]

Did you see anything from Pink's stint? Because Kelly's back now, but Pink stink. Did you say no? She. Kelly okied. People are saying she. Kelly Clarkson. Kelly Clarkson because she sang Lighthouse from the new album. I didn't choose O and. But I. And honestly, it was really good. Like, it was an amazing cover. It's also just an amazing song, so I love to see somebody.

[A]

Yeah. I wonder how Tara and Johnny can, you know, the singing fix, you know, fill that hole.

[B]

Wait, that's a good call.

[A]

But also, Tarek sort of has, like, Jenna Bush Hager energy of just, like, nice lady in your home. Funny and, like, humble and sweet.

[B]

Yes. And while they're. I would say a majority of their time on Traitors, like, was a waste, the last couple of episodes where they finally, like, revealed their secret, actually, like, I found them to be, like, a funny duo. I wish they had just done that the whole time because it wasn't this play.

[A]

Anyway, we were so hard on them. If you told us at the beginning of Traders, by the end, they were giving us nothing. By the end of the show, you're going to be championing the two of them to take over for Kelly Clarkson. Like, I actually would think that you're mad. And the thing is, when you say it like that, it sounds different than what it is right now. No one's ever going to be Kelly. They have to fill the slot. They have to try something different with, like, two people who are just, like, like, not safe, but, like, just, like, easy and warm and can talk. They also do host for the Olympics, so they're hosting, not, like novices to the format.

[B]

Speaking of Traders and Kelly Clarkson, Rob was on the Kelly Clarkson show with Daniel Radcliffe. And it turns out that both Daniel and Kelly Clarkson had watched the season and had, like, a ton of questions for Rob. It was kind of an amazing interview.

[A]

Kelly said that Rob should be, like, an actor.

[B]

Yeah. That he is, like, the what it takes because he was, like, so great at fooling everyone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is true. Maybe, like, an actor they should cast, like, a full actor on.

[A]

Well, they have.

[B]

Who?

[A]

Lisa Rinna.

[B]

Oh, I guess. But I really don't consider her an actor.

[A]

She's Claudia. She is an actress.

[B]

Is she?

[A]

That's why she was on Housewife.

[B]

I thought she was, like, a host.

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

She was in Melrose Place, General hospital, all those 90s shows. Right.

[B]

That's funny. Okay, but, like, more actors.

[A]

Okay. Because when Michael Rapaport is an actor, he was on Friends, but again, but he was on Friends.

[B]

Right. Such a great episode. By the way, he plays Phoebe's boyfriend.

[A]

Who else is an actor?

[B]

They're like. They have actors on there who, like, do other things. You know what I mean? They need, like, an actor by trade.

[A]

No, those two, like, our actors by trade. But you. More actors.

[B]

Oh, my God. Speaking of, I can't believe we've sat here for so long and not told everybody about the Patreon episode we recorded yesterday, which is being lauded as our best episode yet and will become a monthly installment. We played the game Headbands, which it's kind of like heads up. You basically put an index card on your forehead with. We did Pop Culture Edition, so celebrities. And you basically play, like, 20 questions where you just keep asking questions about the person on your forehead. You don't know who the person is. And it was seriously so funny. I had, like, so much fun.

[A]

I had. The crazy thing about it is I had so much fun doing it. I thought it was hysterical. Watching it is even funnier when you're sitting there with a person on your head, like.

[B]

And of course, we did, like, funny people, you know?

[A]

Oh. Because we're funny gals. It was amazing. Monthly installment, for sure.

[B]

We'll have to figure out how to do it remotely. When I go back, which I am going back. I just wanted to tell everyone that there's one more thing I have to do, and then I'm going back.

[A]

Okay, if you insist.

[B]

Just letting you know.

[A]

So that's the latest on Kelly's rumors. I. If. If they just put this out there to, like, feel how the world feels about it. Like, I'm very open.

[B]

But they do need to supplement that musical element. I Don't know how those two fix

[A]

that, but maybe like a third. Someone who just sings. But then I'll do it.

[B]

Okay? I'll do it. I'll do it.

[A]

Are you ready for our third story, which is a little biopic news? Bon Jon. Bon Jovi's music biopic is in the works at Universal.

[B]

Okay, I like this.

[A]

Bon Jovi is getting the big screen treatment. Universal has won a bidding war. Tobacco feature film about the rock band behind hits like Living on a Prayer, you Give Love a Bad Name, and It's My Life. Oh, that's a banger.

[B]

So Glad is so Glee. I wonder if he knows, like. Like, he only is known by young people today because of Glade. Like, his legacy lives on through Lee Michelle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Dream.

[A]

A director has not been set, like, nor the cast or anything, but I wonder who will get the job.

[B]

Oh, of jbj. Let me say John. Like, he. But it's young John, right? Oh, so cute. When he was younger. I want to say one thing. Javan Jovi, I feel, is very, like, Sound of Mind. I don't know if he's had, like, a crazy. I think he's still married to, like, his OG wife, mother of his kids, which we love. But a lot of those biopics are about, like, you know, people who, like, do drugs and, like, are crazy. I don't know. He, like, gives, like, just dad from New Jersey vibes.

[A]

Huh.

[B]

So I don't know how interesting of a movie that is.

[A]

No, I'm down, like, a little. I'm sure that's a. An inspiring story, by the way.

[B]

You know what movie came and went without a whimper? The Bruce Springsteen one. Is it out?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

It came out, like, a year ago. Jeremy Allen, White undies. Yeah.

[A]

Let me say.

[B]

Who does he look like? He's very handsome.

[A]

But the person would also sing, right?

[B]

Yeah, but I guess if they found the right person and that person didn't sing.

[A]

Austin Butler is already honestly growing his hair. He's already growing his hair.

[B]

They could do an unknown.

[A]

I don't think Austin Butler would do this because he needs to do something

[B]

else different, but he needs to do something like, doesn't he have to pay his bills? Austin Butler hasn't worked in years. No one's coming to mind.

[A]

Glenn Powell, but he doesn't sing. Court Over Street. Your best friend allegedly Pug Caso.

[B]

It's not Pug Casa. I feel like it's a confirmed Philip Phil Phillips, right?

[A]

That would be so crazy. That would be so crazy. Tonight's the night.

[B]

Is it messing around Wednesdays.

[A]

But is it the finale?

[B]

No. No. Oh.

[A]

Oh. You sounded like it was the finale.

[B]

No, but, like, maybe Pug Castle goes home tonight.

[A]

I don't think he's gonna win.

[B]

There's some bad people in, like.

[A]

Yeah. Who's still in Galaxy Girl. Okay.

[B]

Stingray.

[A]

Stingray. Do you know who that is?

[B]

I believe that both of them are Evan Ross and Ashley Simpson. I think they catch husband and wife.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's really cute.

[B]

I think there's, like, some athletes left. I don't know.

[A]

Well, I'm rooting for Pugcasso. We know, but so are you now too.

[B]

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[A]

T Are you ready for our next story? A little more show business news because Dancing with the Stars duo Whitney Leavitt and Mark Ballas will unite on Broadway for a run in Chicago. So as we know, Whitney is on Chicago playing Roxie Hart and now Mark

[B]

so successfully by the way, like people, the tickets are sold out every night. There are a thousand, like people are like screaming on TikTok about how expensive the tickets are. The resale's insane. She's literally like, like, it's giving Showgirl. Like back when Broadway was like, you know, it's giving Showgirl like my book Evelyn Esbit.

[A]

I feel like whenever someone plays Roxy, like we always like hear this, like tickets are, oh really?

[B]

I, I actually feel like when people do Roxy, it's, like, cool, but it doesn't change the show at all.

[A]

It's just. This seems bigger than everyone else's, but I do feel like it's always, like, a boom for the show, but it's also, like, a small run. And it's so funny.

[B]

I actually feel the total opposite. I feel like she's the most successful Roxy they've ever had. Like, they. This is what they're always trying to get when they cast, like, random.

[A]

No, I feel like it was, like, good with Ariana Maddox. I feel.

[B]

I don't remember people clamoring for tickets.

[A]

Really? Yeah.

[B]

Also, I just want to say, I keep talking about the book that I read, and I. I guess I haven't said the name of the book, so I want to apologize. It's It Girl by Allison Pataki.

[A]

I feel like we did, but it was, like, so quickly. No, we literally did. We said how that's an amazing name for a book.

[B]

Like It Girl, but I don't think we said It Girl. I said you were like. The name is really good.

[A]

Like, Mark Ballas will be returning to the show. To the board, whatever that means. Who? He'll play slick talking lawyer Billy Flynn. This is. And they'll be working and dancing together once again. Great.

[B]

Like, why didn't they do this sooner? It's a great idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's excited. I'm sure he's excited.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Love that. Do you think she's off the show?

[A]

No.

[B]

You think she'll go back? Because I know she's on this currencies and they're all doing press, but she's not. And that's because she's not in Utah and whatever. Like, she's. She can't go to press, but she

[A]

can do press in New York. They don't do press in Utah. They actually, like.

[B]

Sorry. Yeah, but I. I think like, her doing press.

[A]

Press.

[B]

Yeah. I guess she hasn't done, like, any press. I haven't seen. I saw all the girls doing stuff. You also see Jesse talking about, like, her face. There's, like, drama with her doctor.

[A]

I saw her in a video, like, saying that she, like, is mad at herself and.

[B]

No, she's also, like, is mad at the doctor. She said she was kind of, like, swayed and, you know, lied to about the recovery and, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she was also, like, posting about the doctor, so it's, like, weird.

[A]

What did she do?

[B]

Like, skin grafts? I don't know. Like, like, kind of like, like bigger than she intended, I think she went in just to fix something and ended up doing a bunch of stuff.

[A]

She said that on this forthcoming season, it's. She likes how she looks. It's before.

[B]

Before.

[A]

Yeah. So what we're about to watch like is not what she.

[B]

The new face, maybe. But she talks about the journey.

[A]

Yeah. Or we'll see like what she was doing, what, what she had planned to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But then in the video she, she was where she was talking about it, she was wearing sunglasses. So like I couldn't. You couldn't really see, like if what

[B]

she didn't like I do want to say. And I checked just. Oh, I forgot to update everyone. I went back to the dermatologist yesterday. I got that mole removed just so I know you guys were waiting. But I did get filler. I got lip filler and botox and I came for like a checkup. And you know, I've recently come to the decision that I don't think I ever want to get a facelift. Did you know what I mean? Like when, when Jesse was saying her journey, I was like, that literally sounds horrible. So I've kind of decided like, kind of big news. Like I'm going to say out of

[A]

the sun or like, are they just gonna age gracefully?

[B]

No, no, I'm still gonna get filler and stuff, but I feel like I'm in the sun a lot and like,

[A]

that's not what I meant. Not no filler, but like. Or you're just gonna ag.

[B]

No, I'm gonna do stuff like lasers and all that. But like, I don't think I want to undergo the knife. So I'm gonna start like protecting my skin. Weren't you.

[A]

You were in the sun Yesterday when I FaceTime, you were on the beach.

[B]

I was at the beach wearing sunblock and on my face and a hat. Like I usually like, I'm crazy. Like, I don't wear sunblock. Like I just like lay out and I want my body to be tan, of course, but like. And I was laying on my stomach so like my face was out of the stuff on.

[A]

So the message is you're going to start wearing sunblock.

[B]

I'm going to start wearing sunblock. I'm going to stop like laying out, roasting. So so much like, and just face like I used to like literally raw dog it. First of all, no sunblock on my face and just like get super burned and like would be happy about it. But now like I'm going to be taking more precautions cuz I really feel like. And when I Went to the doctor, she was like, you have a lot of sun damage on your chest. I'm like, yeah, I know. I was, like, proud of it, but I feeling like if I want to age gracefully without getting a facelift, I think I need to cut back on my son. Less sun, so, like, more like fraudulent tan.

[A]

Oh, I love that. That's me.

[B]

Yeah. But I. I like fraudulent tan on my face. I don't like it on my body. So I am going to continue to lay out, like, neck down, face up. No.

[A]

Right. Because you wouldn't get a facelift for that area.

[B]

Right. And I don't show off my body anyways. Like, I seriously don't even care what it looks like.

[A]

So maybe it's just like, the news is, like, wide brim hats for cogers.

[B]

Yeah. But then, like, hats make me hot, so not really. But just, like, more mindful about my sun exposure because I'm like, a sun

[A]

girly on her face.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Great. Thank you for that.

[B]

Maybe I can inspire someone. And then maybe like, that, you know, funky mole on my back was like the Lord's way of telling me, stay out of chill.

[A]

Yeah, but you're not keeping your body out of the sun.

[B]

Anyway, also, I just want to say, like, the place in my back where the mole was, like, never even sees the sun because I get, like, I wear one pieces, so.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

I know. Yeah. Not to, like, be a conspiracy theorist, but interesting.

[A]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is actually, like, big news. It's just the way. The way the conversation played out, and I let the chips follow where they may.

[B]

And this one ended up in the fifth Tory. But it probably deserved better treatment.

[A]

Yeah. Because Kylie's on the COVID of Vanity Fair looking insane.

[B]

Okay. I can't be the only person who didn't know that was her. And I thought it was the girl from Bridgerton, Season two.

[A]

Simone.

[B]

Simone. Ashley. Thank you.

[A]

Oh, that's funny.

[B]

She looks so different. And I just want to say that spray tan is intense.

[A]

Oh, well, she also lightened her eyebrows. I thought she looks like Gabriette and the other girl.

[B]

Let me see.

[A]

And Amelia Gray. Amelia.

[B]

I didn't even notice. She didn't have eyebrows. Like, I was. So everyone was like, kylie, Kylie.

[A]

I'm like, who's Kylie? This is Gabriette.

[B]

Yeah. So then later on in the photo shoot, because you see. You see the picture where, like, there's only light on her eye, there's like a spotlight. She's, like, back to her normal Skin tone.

[A]

Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I was like, oh, Kylie Jenner is who?

[A]

Like, and the comments.

[B]

Yeah. No, no, no, no. The comments were like, oh, see, she's embracing her Armenian side. She ain't Armenian. Robert Kardashian. Yeah, that one. I'm like, oh, it's Kylie. Like, look at her skin tone there versus the COVID It's actually an insane. I think it's a combination of the lighting and, like, a severe spray tan.

[A]

Yeah. Because look, when her eyes in the light, by the way, that, to me,

[B]

looks like a different day.

[A]

No, but this side of her face, that looks like Kylie. But when she's in the note got sun on her. Her.

[B]

She looks. She looks darker, but she looks brown in the first one. Like, her skin looks brown in the picture.

[A]

The COVID photo.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. I was so confused. She looks great.

[A]

I wasn't confused. Maybe I saw it because I saw it, like, on her Instagram, like, from the moment I saw it, it was like, Kylie.

[B]

No, I think I saw it on, like, Ms. Woods. And she wrote, this is great. I'm like, who is it? No.

[A]

And also, it says Kylie on top.

[B]

Got it, got it.

[A]

It was very clear.

[B]

Literally, I was like, Kylie Minogue. I literally. It took me a full 30 seconds to figure out who this was for me.

[A]

I was like, kylie's on the COVID of Vanity Fair. Let's look at the pictures. She looks amazing. And she's inspired by Gabriette and Amelia.

[B]

I love that she's on the COVID of Vanity Fair. You know, she's embracing her actor era, even though I really don't want that from the Kardashians. I think, like, they all get, like, Kim is obsessed with acting, and it's like, okay, Kylie's foray into acting, I have enjoyed. I don't need more. She does talk about how she, like, wants to do more. She's been getting sent a lot of scripts since her gangbusters scene. She also talks that she wants to have more kids.

[A]

I won't get my hopes up too much.

[B]

Who was she interviewed by?

[A]

She was interviewed by Nate Freeman and photographed by Myrtle Ass. Obviously.

[B]

Myrt. Alice. Myrt. Alice.

[A]

Mert. Mert Myrtie.

[B]

Of course, by word, the girls don't leave the house unless it's.

[A]

Unless it's murdering his friend.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's the friend's name that he's always

[B]

working collaborating with his collaborator? Kim is always working with Mert and Blood.

[A]

Yeah. Or like. Yeah.

[B]

Who has, like, an equally like Marcus Martin. Marcus.

[A]

Marcus.

[B]

Yeah, that sounds right.

[A]

Yep. Allison, Merc and Marcus

[B]

and Sophia and Marcus.

[A]

I didn't get a chance to read the article yet, but I'll snuggle up later with a. A nice mug of tea and really enjoy.

[B]

She's finishing up her 20s, and she wants, you know, focus on travel and business and spend time with her kids. And then, you know, she says, and of course I want more kids.

[A]

More kids. Well, I wonder with whom these kids. I wonder with whom.

[B]

Did you see. Misty Copeland is coming for Timothette, and

[A]

she was in Marty Supreme, Allegedly.

[B]

Oh, I need everyone to stop. I really need everyone to stop, like, this manufactured outrage. Like, you don't give a fuck about opera. You don't give a fuck about Misty.

[A]

Care about ballet.

[B]

But you knew what Timothy was trying to say. Like, they're just, like, obsessed with, like, having something. Like, they're like a dog with a bone. You don't care. Missy Copeland is allowed to be offended.

[A]

I'll.

[B]

I'll say that.

[A]

Yeah. But, like, I feel like it'd be cooler if she wasn't and was just, like, you know, enjoyed the spotlight that it put on. Because I don't think he's anti. And I'm sure he actually really appreciates opera and ballet. Like, each.

[B]

I'm sure he's been.

[A]

They're not, like, commercially.

[B]

Can everyone say the same?

[A]

But I think, you know, calling out the culture for not appreciating opera and ballet is a good thing.

[B]

Yeah. Name five operas.

[A]

Phantom of the Opera.

[B]

Not even an opera.

[A]

Opera. Opera. Oh, my God, that one's really.

[B]

Didn't you cry?

[A]

Yeah, almost.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, you know, I just won't let my emotions go there. You can't get dark.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Chopra.

[B]

You see Chopra.

[A]

Yeah. Really, it's not. It's not that serious. And this is the best thing that's ever happened to the movement, the high arts.

[B]

The fine arts. Yeah.

[A]

Whatever they are. But again, like, this is not my fight, so if it is offensive, like, I agree.

[B]

Cancel Timothy. You know, it's a good thing this magazine probably went to print a while ago, or else she would have had to speak on it.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. This is really.

[B]

Maybe he should go on Chloe on Wonderland and, like, speak his truth.

[A]

I just want to say, like, Timothy on Wonderland, when. If his next press tour doesn't include a stop on Chloe in Wonderland, like, he's a bad boyfriend. No.

[B]

I wonder why he didn't on, like, on Marty Supreme Press, he was, like, doing a lot of, like, cool, different things. The girls were all wearing the jackets, like, he should have gone on Wonderland.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Timothy in Wonderland.

[A]

Yeah. He didn't do a podcast, did he?

[B]

No, I think he's done Jay Shetty. Do you see Luke Combs on Jay Shetty?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love him. I cannot wait for this album.

[A]

I know. Any day now, right?

[B]

March 20, he went on Jay Shetty, and he was talking about a lot of different things. You know, he likes to get deep, but you have ever seen that viral video of him refunding everyone in the stadium but then continuing to put on a show.

[A]

Yeah, because the weather was bad. No, because he was sick. Yeah.

[B]

And he was like, I really can't sing as good as I want to, but I'm not gonna let you guys go home. So, like, I'll sing all the hits, but you'll all get your money back. And you told the story of, like, that whole day and how the idea came to him and it was, like, deeply moving.

[A]

Yeah. He was also talking about fatherhood, of course. His advice for new dads, which is to support new moms, which is to, like, sort of off, like, up and support your wife and whatever she needs.

[B]

Like, the baby doesn't need you yet your wife needs you, which I loved.

[A]

Amazing advice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So those are the fast five stories. I feel as though you needed to know them. I did a bit of my summer house recap at the top of the

[B]

show, but anything else?

[A]

No. And I was realizing that the reason why the show isn't, like, really, really good this season is because we don't have, like, a central storyline. I would say the biggest storyline is Kyle and Amanda, but that's sort of on ice right now. They're getting along. It was Amanda's birthday weekend. He bought her Cartier watch. And, like, and they flashback to all the other birthdays she's had where he totally fumbled the ball. Like, remember when Paige was, like, helping him buy tickets for a trip? Like, buy. Book a hotel on his phone to take her on a trip? Like, here, I bought you a trip. Right.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

He got her, like, a piece of weird art one. So anyways, like, he finally, like, crushed it with the birthday present. It was actually a really fun weekend. Everyone, like, seemed. Everyone went out for Amanda's birthday. Then the next day, they went to the Vineyard Wolfer Estate, and then they, like, come home and they go swimming, and they're just, like, lit all weekend. Sierra and west are flirting again, and they're like, should we? Should we? Shouldn't we.

[B]

It seems that they do.

[A]

We shouldn't.

[B]

Tomois reported that they were seen out together in West Village.

[A]

And didn't you also report that he's with Amanda? Like, that's what people are reporting, so.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

I don't think either of these.

[B]

But that's been widely debunked by everyone involved. The Sierra and Wes thing seems to be true.

[A]

I don't know. I would be, I would like to

[B]

think she's smarter than that.

[A]

Yeah. And it's just like, doesn't do for me what. And I believe he can't even, like, he, not even that he can't articulate his feelings. Like, he won't, he's, he won't even say, like, I like you. I'm sorry, I, I, I, I'm gravitating towards you. He'll be like, I feel like I don't know how to talk to you.

[B]

So I actually saw this thesis on Tik Tok about Sierra and like, how Jesse and West act around her and why she should really stop dating men from the show is because they really lack the emotional intelligence to realize, like, they just, like, are infatuated with her. She's so beautiful. They want to experience her, but they don't want to know her. They're like, they're sort of stuck in attraction mode and they don't bother, you know, digging deeper and getting to know her. That's why when Jesse was like, can I make out with you? Or whatever, it's like, it's just the obsession with experiencing her versus, like, knowing and loving and understanding her.

[A]

Well, yes. And that's what she said. That's how she feels. Like everybody wants to experience her, but, like, she, they are really good friends. Her and Jesse are really good friends. I feel like he does know her, which is why it's like, you're obviously attracted to her. You obviously like her because you spend all day just trying to get to her room to chit chat. So that's a relationship. So that's what she's saying. It's like, if those two things are connecting, like, why aren't you asking me out on it? Right. And it's because, because they are immature and they date and move without intention and they don't articulate. They're so scared of saying anything that's remotely like a commitment because they don't want to be committed. So they don't say anything except for, like, fits and starts of like, I think I want to talk to you. Take it further. That would be amazing if they said, take it further. But Wes is, like, stumbling over his words. About just talking to her. And it's like, why don't you decide what you want and then go after it it, period. And, like, not be afraid if it goes well or it doesn't. That's therein lies the issue. So we have no Lindsay. You know, Carl wasn't even there this weekend, but there's, like, some drama brewing, and I think this is, like, what the fight between Carl and Kyle becomes about. Because at some point, like, Carl, like, curses him out. This season, Carl invested money into Lover Boy, and Kyle did not invest money into Soft Bar. Jesse invested money into Soft Bar.

[B]

That's so sweet.

[A]

Yeah, it is, like, really nice. It was open to investors. He also crowdfunded online, I remember. But Kyle did not put money in, which, like, would have been a nice thing to do. Carl put 15k into lover boy, so, like, Kyle could have put some money. Kyle said at the time, like, he. Lover boy is in the worst financial position they've ever been in. And he had just put $500,000 into Loverboy to cover payroll so he didn't have to lay people off.

[B]

I believe that Kyle didn't invest because he doesn't have the funds to do it.

[A]

Agreed. But Carl was saying, like, Kyle's DJing. You know, when he does, like, you get Instagram deals. Yeah.

[B]

You get cash when you're in that line of work.

[A]

He could have, you know, made enough money just to give him something just for the, like, you know, to, like, endorse.

[B]

Like, I believe it.

[A]

The support. The idea of support.

[B]

That's, like, really sad. And I can't believe that actually really endears me to Jesse.

[A]

Yeah. Because at least, like, last season when he said it wasn't a great business, like, he wasn't, like, moved by the business, but he wouldn't tell that to Carl's face. And, like, he just wanted. Everyone wanted to, like, enable Carl to do this, even though on the back end, they're like, I don't know about this. At least, like, he enabled him, you know, and put his money where his mouth is.

[B]

Wait, that's really sweet.

[A]

Yeah. But don't say nice things about Jesse. He's a mess.

[B]

I can't stand him.

[A]

He's such a mess.

[B]

Apparently he, like, was talking about Lexi's mom in a meet and greet, and it got back to Lexi. Lexi made a tick Tock. My mama don't like you and she likes everyone.

[A]

I seriously, I'm so mad. I can't go down that bring her back. Like.

[B]

Like, that would really shake shit up. I don't think she would ever. But bring it back. Do it. I dare you.

[A]

Yeah. So everyone's just, you know, nothing's like, there's not like a real, like serious storyline.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And that's why I think it's a, it's not a great season and maybe it will ramp up towards the end with Kyle and Amanda and that will make like in the city very interesting. But right now there's just really nothing going on. So that's that on that.

[B]

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[A]

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