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Jacqueline Folay
Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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Jackson Claude
It's your favorite show.
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Jacqueline Folay
The best five things you need to know.
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Jackson Claude
We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
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Jacqueline Folay
They sound amazing.
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Jackson Claude
Welcome back to the toast and happy. Thank you. Yeah. Her day. Yeah, that's right. The fourth and almost final day of the week. Hope everyone's having a great day. Hey, Jacqueline Folay, how are you doing?
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Jacqueline Folay
I'm doing good. Excited that it's Thursday. Very, very excited. I am going on a cojourner Fred today. A real cod.
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Jackson Claude
Have the best time. Bon voyage.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, I'm going to Dallas later today. So this is my little airport look. My.
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Jackson Claude
I have like major news that I haven't even shared with you because I wanted to tell you live on the
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Jacqueline Folay
podcast that you're wearing your hair half up, half down.
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Jackson Claude
Okay, well, thank you for noticing. I am wearing my hair half up, half down. But that's not what I wanted to
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Jacqueline Folay
do with a gene cinched ankle, a cinch Shinkle Jean.
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Jackson Claude
Correct. But all of these things are not the enormous news that I wanted to
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Jacqueline Folay
tell you because those two things on their own are enormous, are huge. Huge. But tell me.
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Jackson Claude
So yesterday you didn't even ask. I had my emg, right? The long awaited results for what's wrong with my thumb. Are you ready?
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Jacqueline Folay
I'm right. I'm glad I didn't ask. Sorry for not asking. But now I'm glad I didn't because I want to be learn with everyone.
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Jackson Claude
The EMG was inconclusive. So yeah, I first of all, EMGs are like two hour long things. They're mostly uncomfortable. They basically like shock your nerves to like see if you feel it. So I literally, I was like this with my arm every three seconds. They want to see if you could like have reflexes and then the last 10 minutes. So I wouldn't say it was like overall painful until the last 10 minutes where they take like a needle that looks like an epidural and they just like shove it in different parts of your arm. And then at the very end they were like, flip over, we're going to stick it in your back. I was seriously shocked. All of that just to be inconclusive. So basically what they were saying was that because the EMG like didn't tell us anything, that means that it's not a tendon issue, right? It's not tend to terrible and it's not a ligament issue. Like it's not going to be Something that's solved by surgery. I was like, you know what? That's actually good news. He was like, that means it's more of a nerve issue. And that could mean a lot of things. And then when he started to say, he was like, this could be inflammation, it could be autoimmune. We'll have to get a blood test. And I was like, oh, my God, I am entering, like, Lyme disease, celebrity terrorism. Autoimmune. Yeah, a chronic. I was like, are you. Inflammation? Yeah, inflammation. I was like, you're kidding me. Like, my thumb doesn't work because of inflammation. He didn't even know. He was just throwing some ideas out there. But I officially decided, like, in that moment, I will not be pursuing this endeavor further. Like, I'm not. I'm gonna end up like Joe Manganiello with a shaman. Like, I'm not doing it.
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Jacqueline Folay
Oh, my God. I can't believe it was autoimmune inflammation.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah. He said there's basically something like, stopping one of my nerves. Like, there's an inflammation, basically, and it's like, not working properly. And when I heard inflammation, I was like, I was like, you're kidding.
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Jacqueline Folay
I'm going to pack my things.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah, I was just like, I just. I sat here for two hours. I got needles, inflammation.
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Jacqueline Folay
You know what?
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Jackson Claude
I almost wish that it was like a tendency.
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Jacqueline Folay
First of all, I'm glad. I'm glad that you don't need surgery. That's not serious. It is like, you know, a little embarrassing, of course, but it's the best possible outcome, truly.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah, he did say that, like, while everything was inconclusive and he recommended blood tests and an ultrasound next. Like, he did also say, like, it shouldn't really progress because I thought maybe like, my hand was going to keep getting worse, affecting other fingers, then my wrist, and it's like, well, I need a hand, so I need to take care of this. He didn't think it was going to progress, but I'm just like, I'm done. I am officially done.
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Jacqueline Folay
Why don't you try, like, massages? Like, so I actually went to a
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Jackson Claude
chiropractor when I was visiting you in Florida for something called the Graston method, where they, like, shove this metal bar up and down your finger to sort of stimulate the nerves. It didn't work. And I went, now you have to
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Jacqueline Folay
go to an anti inflammatory specialist.
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Jackson Claude
I'm actually going to go seek some alternative methods, like maybe acupuncture. I really believe in the power of acupuncture. Some eastern options. I'VE just, I've seen what I needed to see in terms of the like traditional healthcare system and like, I'm good.
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Jacqueline Folay
Wow. I can't believe you even like shared that inflammation. Autoimmune. What are the odds after our conversation yesterday?
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Jackson Claude
Correct. Okay, so I was very productive on my Love island day off. I got my long awaited years in the making. Emg.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yep.
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Jackson Claude
I watched a Real Housewives of Rhode island reunion. I'm all caught up and I finished the best show on earth. Four seasons. I just, I keep talking about it because no one gives this show any.
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Jacqueline Folay
Like, I feel like people watch it, but it's just not the sort of people that are on tick tock and making content.
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Jackson Claude
It's the funniest show ever written. Like, it just is. I loved it. I highly recommend. And I also watch Real Housewives of Rhode island, which I just want to touch on briefly because I know people are waiting now. This was such an amazing reunion and it's been so interesting to watch because I think there were a lot of dynamics within the group that people like, you know, Liz is the head boss. Everyone's afraid of Liz and that's just not what's playing out for the audience. Like, this was such a bad reunion for Liz. Like, she is like kooky and whatever, but like, she was just like straight up lying and she looked really crazy. And there were a coup of queens of the reunion. Liz was not one of them. I would say she's one of my wor. Her friendship with Joe Ellen. She was like, I don't know where you're talking about that. We were best friends. She was like, didn't we just spend Mother's Day together? And Andy's like, well, you know, best friends would Spain Mother's Day together. And she just kept getting like called out and everything. She's like, you're making that up. You're, this is a conspiracy. You all ambushed me. Like, when she looks bad, it's like, because it was an ambush, everything is just so everyone's conveniently lying every time she looks bad. And the thing about Joe Ellen is that like, you could say what you want about her. I haven't. And I just met her. I, I, I haven't really seen her lie or get caught in a lie. She's not a liar. She says she's like annoying and I like a bone carrier. But she doesn't lie. And I know you love her. But it was also like a very bad reunion for Kelsey because Kelsey is also Liz's like, BFF and like, ass liquor, which is fine, but your ass, the ass that you're looking, had a bad reunion. And, like, you're just over there licking her ass. And it's like. And then on her own sort of argument, oh, she lost big time. She really like, Rosie, I'm sorry. Rosie is on her way to being a hall of fame housewife. She's not. She wasn't even trying. And I feel like she defended herself so well. There are so many allegations about her, and I guess they were pre existing to the show, but Joellen and Kelsey are going after being like, it was you who had affair with that coach. Like, you're in the police report, which is, like, kind of damning. The guy had gotten arrested for a dui. And Joellen is saying that in the police report, Kelsey was in the car with him. That's a smoking gun. And Rosie was like, no, I wasn't. Show me the police report. Joan was like, well, I don't have it. She was like, well, you saw it with your own eyes. And Joel was like, well, no. So, like, people are just truly making things up about Rosie. And I think at one point I probably believed the rumors that she had gotten fired for, like, having sex with the higher up and that she also was the girl who had sex with the coach. And she was like, no, I didn't. It's been proven that it's not me. Like, it was a Reddit thing from three years ago that you guys are obsessed with. Stop it. And I feel like she really defended herself without getting highly emotional. And I. I was inclined to believe her. I really was. And then I don't know if you saw the read of the century when she was like, going back and forth with Kelsey. It's like, it's going viral. It's like Slime Pig 2.0.
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Jacqueline Folay
What did she say?
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Jackson Claude
Well, Kelsey was going to, like, repeating all the things that Rosie had said about her this season. She was like. And you said that. I'm like, you know, oh, for a living.
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Jacqueline Folay
The only co worker you've ever had is in Miami.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah, it's the girlfriend in Florida.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
And it's just like, it was dead silent after. I don't know if they edited it that way, but, like, they wanted Rosie to have that moment, and it was really powerful. So I feel good about the fact, like, while I was initially team Rosie and then I stopped caring, I'm back on team Rosie. And I think Kelsey and Liz, like, I think they thought they were gonna come on the show. I Was like, she's the pretty hot young thing. Liz, like, runs this town. It's really not been the case then. I thought the couches were also weird. Like, Rosie should have been on the other couch. There's a lot of weird alliances also, like Joellen and Kelsey, but then the ruler of it all. So Joellen and Ruler are going at it because Joellen's the one who's been like, gathering all this evidence about her husband having an affair. And the season ends. It's like, we know he's having an affair, but the season ends and they pick up cameras because he was arrested for putting a tracking device on Ruler's car. She. She said she had a feeling and she took it to the shop and they found it and they like, have to report it. So he literally got arrested for domestic violence. And the season ended being like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do. And here she comes into the reunion. She got a facelift and everyone's talking about it. She looks great, New nose as well. And she's just coming after Joellen, like. Yeah, I guess it's annoying that Joellen, like brought all this up. Like you did ask her for proof. And it is the job. And if you're like going on a housewife show with an active affair, you're just sort of asking for it. Yeah. And Joellen just kept saying. And it's so true. Being like you're saying more here than you've said you were. In three episodes, Rula was not in the show at all. She had a life threatening illness. And they showed her in bed. She's like in full glam in bed. It was just like she was hiding from the cameras because she had this thing. And I think maybe she didn't know that it was oncoming when she signed up for the show because no one would be that stupid, actually. And her husband just continues to embarrass her. The husband's joined this week, next, next week, part two. So they didn't really cover a lot of the affair, but like, Rula and Joelle and just like going after each
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Jacqueline Folay
other of Rula yelling at Joellen. And I was like, maybe the rest of the season the reunion was good, but like, that clip just turned me off to the show because, like, I'm not interested in watching, like an unhinged woman. Like, call another woman a when your husband is having an affair. Like, she's just spewing garbage is so trashy looking.
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Jackson Claude
It was so trashy, and it was
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Jacqueline Folay
so, like, bottom of the barrel housewives content for me. Like, watching Rula, who's, like, just nonsensical at this point. Like, nothing makes sense. Nothing adds up. Like, you couldn't have more in your closet. And you're gonna come at Joellen, who's like a young, lovely mother who's just, like, letting you know that your husband's cheating on you.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah, it was three seconds. Like, it really wasn't how the reunion went down. And I think everyone sort of dismisses Rula as this, like, crazy person. But in Andy said it, it's so true. Like, the roots that this group of people have is so crazy. And that's something they have on other franchises because they were just, like, telling a Rand story about, like, old beef between Liz and Rula. And it was so crazy. She was like, I was in Block island, her favorite place, and me and Jerry were separated, her and Liz and her husband. And so I was like, with a guy. And the next morning, Jerry, my husband, calls me. Like, we were on good terms. We were just, like, taking time apart. He calls me and says that your husband called him and said he saw me with another woman. And because they were saying, like, Brian, like, loves to rat on people. He called Jo Ellen's work and, like, ratted on her for, like. And so he's just like, a rat. And Rula was like, that's not true. That's not true. And now Liz, everything's very convenient for Liz. It's like, oh, you saw me with another man. I was separated. It's like, it's always something. But Andy was right. Like, this group is really interesting. And I think that's why Ashley has hard. Had a very hard. Not hard, like, sort of un Impactful season.
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Jacqueline Folay
But Rosie's not really part of the OG story.
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Jackson Claude
I know. And Rosie, like, has it. You know, she can. She can. She can succeed without having those roots. And I feel like Ashley's just sort of her +1. But there was a really beautiful moment. It was actually very sweet when they were talking about Ashley and Rosie's friendship. Like, I didn't know that they were so close. And Ashley, of course, started crying, but I actually felt like it was warranted. She was like, rosie is one of the best friends I've ever made in my whole life. Like, she comes, like, we hang out all the time, and, like, we never go out to dinner. She is. When we hang out, she is on my floor playing with my kids. Like, she's one of the best people. It made me like Rosie so much. It also, like, endeared me to Ashley a lot.
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Jacqueline Folay
That's nice.
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Jackson Claude
So I'm definitely team Rosie Joellen. Even though Rosie and Joellen keep going at each other, it's, like, annoying because Joellen is team Kelsey. It's like the Kelsey, Liz, Joellen, like, trio was, I think, supposed to be, like, the cool girls, but Joellen sort of frayed, and they had this issue at the. The night where Frank Sinatra night. So I think it, like, threw a wrench and everything, and people don't know how to act.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. Did you see also Alicia's on therapists?
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Jackson Claude
I did. Okay. So Alicia, I didn't even mention her because she is kind of, like, not germane to the storyline at all, but she has so much personality.
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Jacqueline Folay
Vibes.
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Jackson Claude
She is vibes. She was seated next to Andy. I thought maybe, like, Jo Ellen should have been there, but whatever. I love her. I love that she's on therapist. I love that she's, like, having her moment. I know that in the beginning, like, her and her husband's situation, like, was weird, but the more I watch them, like, I actually think he really loves and cares for her. And I know at the part two of the union, he's like, I have a present for you. When he pulls out a piece of paper, I think he's, like, putting her house on the deed. It is a red flag that it took him 10 years and then he's doing.
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Jacqueline Folay
But as long as her name's on the house, I don't care how it happens.
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Jackson Claude
There's this viral moment when they're, like, going to the horse show and she's on the bus and she's just, like, talking nonsense. She's like, I love a whore. Us. And it's become, like, a viral sound. And in the moment, everybody was cracking up. That's such a funny thing to say. And he's looking at her, like, so adoringly, like he loves her. I'm telling you. I know they're problematic, but I should.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, no, I think they have a cute relationship, too. She just has to get, like, her financial standing in order, and they should get married.
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Jackson Claude
They should get married. All in all, I was wrong about the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Even though I stand by the fact that they all are not, like, wealthy, which is sort of my, like, requirement for housewives. But it seems to be, like, not a thing anymore. I was wrong. I loved it. I'm so excited for season two. I can finally tell all the women apart. And a plus, like really good work. And the small town nature, because you wouldn't think Rhode Island.
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Jacqueline Folay
Right.
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Jackson Claude
The small town nature of it, like it is its own subculture. It was a really good idea and I was wrong. Yeah, I love it.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. No, people are really into it.
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Jackson Claude
It's great.
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Jacqueline Folay
Should we get into the stories? There's actually a lot that we need to discuss today.
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Jackson Claude
Yes. And we have Dear Toasters, finally. Because as promised, there's no Love island recap.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yes, Dear Toasters. So without further ado to do, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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Jackson Claude
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Jacqueline Folay
And then everybody's talking about Frankie's Organics. I was having them. I had them at Olivia's house. I love them. And they're, they're like so clean. I gave a couple to Max. He loved them.
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Jackson Claude
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Jacqueline Folay
Thank you. Love Primal Kitchen.
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Jackson Claude
Sorry, I wanted to say one more thing that reminded me, and I'm gonna say it because I know you're gonna stop me. I had a meeting yesterday about a project that we're working on, and Jackie will never let me, like, spoil anything, but I'm going to. Jackie and I actually are working on two major projects this year.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yes.
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Jackson Claude
The one that I had a meeting about yesterday will hopefully be launching at the end of the year. And when I left this meeting, like, I was. I felt like I had, like, done a line of cocaine. I was invigorated. We have so many party things coming. Not to be annoying, I just want to say, like, expect greatness from the toast in Q4.
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Jacqueline Folay
All we can say is watch this space. That's all we get.
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Jackson Claude
All we can say, secret project and not to be those girls.
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Jacqueline Folay
But, like, yeah, we have two projects.
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Jackson Claude
Saw.
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Jacqueline Folay
Watch his face.
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Jackson Claude
Okay, I'm ready for the stories.
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Jacqueline Folay
First story, West Wilson is addressing it all on some video series called Whiteboard. Whiteboard. With a guy who does things on a whiteboard? Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
I think maybe I've seen their videos before, and it wasn't a series I was familiar with, but it's these two guys who do, like, whiteboard explanations of, like, big topics. So I've seen that. Like, not them, but I've seen, like, another girl do it where it's like, here is all the drama that's going on between Drake and Kendrick Lamar explained to you. So they do, like, explanations on a whiteboard.
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Jacqueline Folay
Got it. They also appear to be West's close personal friends because they were at the Yankee game with west and Amanda when they went to the Yankee game.
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Jackson Claude
Yes. So I didn't know. When I watched the whole video, I had no context on who these people were. And then by the end of the video, I felt it was crazy because I think up until this point, this might have been the worst thing that west had done for his Q score. The video enraged me, actually. And first of all, I feel like he's admitted to so many more lies. He is such a liar. And I think he was actually speaking, like, quite derogatorily about Amanda, which is, like, the only person left on his side. And, like, when the guys were, like, saying things, oh, you, Amanda, like, that's what you're signing up for. Like, I just thought I. I actually think I dislike him more than ever. Like, any ounce of goodwill I felt for him, like, oh, maybe they're in love. Oh, my God, I thought it was so disgusting. And then to find out these are your best friends. They were at the Yankee game. They've been to a million summer house parties. They're, like, a part of your friend group. So this was the most flattering they could have.
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Jacqueline Folay
Take it.
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Jackson Claude
Oh, my God. I thought it was horrible.
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Jacqueline Folay
So this was part one. There's more coming. And there's, like, more.
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Jackson Claude
Oh, no, Part two was already out.
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Jacqueline Folay
Oh, I didn't see part two. I didn't see me part one.
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Jackson Claude
Part one is the gist, honestly.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. But then there's, like, more on the board. Dara, Italy, Miha, etc, which I haven't gotten to yet. So he is going through the timeline again. They're starting from the beginning. He's sharing more. And everyone in the comments is like, this is, like, literally more than he said on the entire reunion. Like, these are the things that we wanted to know.
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Jackson Claude
But.
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Jacqueline Folay
But he is talking about, like, the video. The video in the apartment, which wasn't really addressed on the reunion. I don't know why. No.
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Jackson Claude
And he says it was, like, the catalyst for that shit statement because they had had their own plan to, like, lie to everyone, figure out their feelings and then come forward. But this video being taken by. He says, his neighbor across the street, he was in his apartment, which is on the second floor, canoodling with Amanda with the blinds open.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. Like in New York City, like, when you live across the street in apartments, you can see into other people's apartment. Like, you just can. You just never know who your neighbors are. So it's not interesting to you?
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Jackson Claude
Yeah.
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Jacqueline Folay
No.
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Jackson Claude
And he had said, I. And the guys were like, how did you not close your blinds? And he was like. I just felt like there was this unwritten rule in New York City that we can all see into each other's apartments, but we're not gonna, like, film each other. And so I actually thought the unwritten rule is that, like, we can all see into each other's apartments, but nobody's looking. Like, you really shouldn't be looking.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yes. I've never.
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Jackson Claude
I could see a million. I never look.
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Jacqueline Folay
And we can all see into each other's apartments, but, like, don't walk by the window naked.
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Jackson Claude
Naked.
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Jacqueline Folay
You know, like, don't do things that you wouldn't want other people to see. But I guess the idea that, like, he would. If it was any other girl, he'd make out on his couch. That's not a big deal if you saw your neighbor. But the idea that, like, because he's famous, he can't do certain things with the window up. I could understand how maybe he thought he had. Was entitled to that privacy, but no. This is a crazy world. No.
- [21:49]
Jackson Claude
And he wanted to, like, make that clear. That was, like, one. I. I think something. He wanted to address him, which is illegal, by the way. And the guys were, like, not believing him that he didn't know his nudes were leaked before the reunion actually started. Because we see him finding out in real time that his nudes were leaked. And they were like, there's no way you didn't know, because why did you say, am I so soft? Like, why would you assume that you're soft?
- [22:07]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [22:08]
Jackson Claude
And he was like, they showed that on the reunion. So he hasn't even seen.
- [22:11]
Jacqueline Folay
He hasn't seen the season. He hasn't seen the reunion. He also, like, expresses that every single thing that they've done up until this point. Like, he regrets immensely, like, how they handle. He regrets the lying. He regrets the statement. He regrets the month that they spent just acting like life could be normal for them, which I understand what he was trying to do. It's like we are going through something completely abnormal. You know, the name on everybody's lips were the punchline of every joke. We're so hated. Like, we're not just gonna, like, sit in our apartments and, like, cry. Let's try and have a normal life. Let's block out everything everyone's saying, and let's try and live our lives because we're human beings. We deserve to live.
- [22:49]
Jackson Claude
Yeah.
- [22:50]
Jacqueline Folay
So I understand the sentiment behind that, but there is a better way to do it. And so already he regrets literally everything up until yesterday. And now he does his video, and he's gonna regret this video, too, because it's not going to how he wanted it to go.
- [23:02]
Jackson Claude
It's giving. Like, Demi Lovato, when she kept making documentaries, being like, no, this is my truth. I was lying last time. I don't know. I. I also don't really care anymore. I just feel like he came off, at least to me, so unlikable, not genuine, not, like, nothing. He didn't seem like he changed at all. If I'm Amanda and I'm watching that, and it's like, all these guys are talking about me in, like, a really derogatory way, and, like, you're just, like, broing it up. It was like, locker room talk.
- [23:29]
Jacqueline Folay
I. She's like, you know, she's.
- [23:33]
Jackson Claude
Yeah, she's like a guy. I am now at my peak of disliking Wes. Like, they did very, very briefly address the grandmother at the very end of part one, and then part two, they didn't even address it. They were like. And then the night before, you find out about your grandma? No, no. He's like, but when. And then your grandmother passed away. Like, how did you. When did you find out? He was like, that day. And it was funny because the night before, I went to bed thinking to myself, okay, like, the worst day of my life, like, probably just happened. Like, it's all up from here. And then he found out about his grandmother the next day, and then that was over, and the. The guy sitting next to him was like, I'm really sorry about that. Like, that's. That's some real stuff. And he was like, thank you. And then they moved on.
- [24:07]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. I don't know what would be the right format for Wes, because I think he's kind of like irredeemable, just like, as a person. Just his value system and like how he sees and moves in the world.
- [24:17]
Jackson Claude
He's a bad guy.
- [24:18]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. But certainly like these like snackable bites of content, like, and, you know, him just like giving. Oh, yeah, that was chill. Like, just giving like 5 words responses isn't good. I would almost want to say like something like long form where maybe we could like, get to know him and understand. Like, even when he touched on the fact that like his dad, his anger issues as a child have like, led him to be like, to sort of just become very neutral in moments, that was.
- [24:47]
Jackson Claude
I'm sorry. That was like a very performative, like, therapy.
- [24:49]
Jacqueline Folay
It was, you know, and. And I don't understand what he was. I don't understand it.
- [24:53]
Jackson Claude
But like, and right. Object. Relevance.
- [24:55]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. You know, but like, if. I don't know, we just got to know more. Like, maybe why are you incapable of having a girlfriend? Why have you chosen this way? Like, I don't know that I would sit down for the long form interview, but I. If there's any chance that like, in his soul there's a human being there.
- [25:10]
Jackson Claude
Yeah.
- [25:10]
Jacqueline Folay
Like, we need to get it out of him and it's not going to happen in like, jokey sort of content like this. I think he just, like, wants to go back to the way that things were.
- [25:20]
Jackson Claude
And it was very intentional. Going to like a show that's not associated with Bravo. It's not like a girly show. It's like a dude show. It's. It's like an intentional move. But I love that the comments were not buying it.
- [25:30]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. And it's like you gave more to the show than you gave to the reunion. Oh. He already regrets how they behaved at the reunion. Taking all that.
- [25:37]
Jackson Claude
Everything was undone.
- [25:38]
Jacqueline Folay
Everything that they have done up until one minute ago, he now concedes was the wrong thing to do and the wrong way to go about it. Like, that statement was so crazy. I remember when it dropped and I still didn't believe it because it didn't say anything. It could have literally been a statement about to be a new flavor of buffalo wild wings. Like, right. It didn't have anybody's names. It didn't have their own names. It didn't say anything. It was such a piece of garbage. And like the fact and what he basically said is like, their publicist wrote it. He didn't write it. Amanda didn't write it. He didn't say Chat GPT. I'm sure, they put it in.
- [26:12]
Jackson Claude
I don't believe that a publicist wrote it.
- [26:13]
Jacqueline Folay
I think a public. Who else do you think wrote it? Or a manager?
- [26:16]
Jackson Claude
No, he hated.
- [26:17]
Jacqueline Folay
He said. I mean, I know we can't believe him because everything is.
- [26:20]
Jackson Claude
I'm sorry. The whole time it was just them. Like, so is insular, this thing between them. I literally doubt they hired anyone. I'm serious. Because you know what? Hiring a professional, like, would be a good decision, and they have not made good decisions at once. This interview was enraging, like, and it's really enraging him sitting there in his chunky cable knit sweater.
- [26:40]
Jacqueline Folay
I can't engage with the content because I'm someone who, like, believes people when they say something like. And so if. If you're just always telling lies, like, this is irrelevant to me. Like, even I believe him. That nothing happened with Jen Fessler.
- [26:52]
Guest or Sponsor Voice
Right.
- [26:52]
Jacqueline Folay
Like, I believe him when he said that. But then it's like. But he said, that's my friend. And it's like, oh, but that's what you said about Amanda on Watch what Happens live. That's my. That's. That's a friend.
- [27:02]
Jackson Claude
I believe Jed Fessler more than I believe West.
- [27:05]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [27:06]
Jackson Claude
The whole time it was just giving, like, you deserve prison, but you, like, he is such. I've said this before. I'm sorry for repeating myself. He's a bad person.
- [27:17]
Jacqueline Folay
He's a bad guy.
- [27:20]
Jackson Claude
And I don't say that lightly because I believe, like, at the end of the day, most people are good. And I think some people are misunderstood. And some people, like, try to be good and end up being bad. I think West Wilson is, like, an actually bad person.
- [27:33]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. Yeah. I. I just. I don't know. I can't deal with the lies. And he said that, and he recognizes that he has no credibility because he's lying.
- [27:43]
Jackson Claude
He said it at the reunion, too, though. Now we know he was lying at the reun.
- [27:47]
Jacqueline Folay
What did he lie about at the reunion? The time didn't say anything. He didn't say anything at the re. In order to lie.
- [27:53]
Jackson Claude
He admitted during this video series that he lied about something at the reunion.
- [27:56]
Jacqueline Folay
I.
- [27:57]
Jackson Claude
He's just irredeemable. So stop trying to redeem yourself. I go get a job and offline. And also, I never want to see you again.
- [28:04]
Jacqueline Folay
If you ever want, like, you need a break. They haven't taken a break. And it's like, not that I need you to, like, go away into the dark and climb into a cave, but, like, like, to just sort of line For a while. Yeah. And I guess they try to do that. They go to Italy and people take their picture and whatnot. Yeah, but, like, he still does his part. Like, they just need to, like, ground themselves.
- [28:24]
Jackson Claude
Honestly, the way he was talking it, like, did it make it seem like they were still a couple? Because seriously, who would talk about their partner like that? And who would, like, be in a room where your partner is being spoken about like that?
- [28:33]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, no, I think there's still a couple.
- [28:36]
Jackson Claude
Yeah.
- [28:36]
Jacqueline Folay
Because, like. Yeah, as soon as they're not, you know, she's gonna go on her apology tour and she probably will then do Call her Daddy. That was also an interesting part of the aftermath.
- [28:46]
Jackson Claude
Yep. But they have said that it wasn't Call her Daddy.
- [28:48]
Jacqueline Folay
What was it?
- [28:49]
Jackson Claude
I don't know. Nobody knows. People were trying to figure it out on files. I downloaded threads. Vile files they were talking about. I think bio files was thrown out there. They said. No, it was kind of like it was giving. What podcast is this?
- [29:02]
Jacqueline Folay
Okay, well, it's. That would be like, you know, when Tom Sandoval went on Howie, man.
- [29:06]
Jackson Claude
So funny. I was actually thinking that it might have been Howie Mandela.
- [29:10]
Jacqueline Folay
Literally. Yeah. Okay, well, then I'm super glad she didn't do it. If it was gonna be, like, something random.
- [29:16]
Jackson Claude
Not even a good one.
- [29:16]
Jacqueline Folay
Not one of, like, the go to's to talk about reality TV drama.
- [29:20]
Jackson Claude
Correct.
- [29:21]
Jacqueline Folay
Okay.
- [29:22]
Jackson Claude
Honestly, like, she should go on Jay Shetty,
- [29:28]
Jacqueline Folay
but she shouldn't. Because.
- [29:29]
Jackson Claude
No, because she doesn't.
- [29:31]
Jacqueline Folay
She doesn't have what it takes.
- [29:33]
Jackson Claude
Well, right. The depth. But Jay Shetty's also, like, you're supposed to go on when, like, you are healed.
- [29:38]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, actively. She's a mess.
- [29:40]
Jackson Claude
Yeah, she's a mess.
- [29:41]
Jacqueline Folay
Like, Jay Shetty can't help her right now, sweetie.
- [29:44]
Jackson Claude
Even Jay Shetty can't help you.
- [29:48]
Jacqueline Folay
Are you ready for our next story?
- [29:50]
Jackson Claude
Yeah.
- [29:50]
Jacqueline Folay
We actually have a lot of TV news today. First up, Lausa has fired Alana.
- [29:56]
Jackson Claude
Oh, my God. Alana's gone. It took them a while. They needed her for a plot device, and the second she served her purpose, which I'm sure we'll find out in, like, two or three days, they probably let her go because the hype has sort of died down. So if you're not going to do it when people are. Actually, no one's talking about it anymore. Like, we're talking about other things.
- [30:14]
Jacqueline Folay
No, I think that if people started to see her again, I think everybody, like, expected that she would be gone. She wasn't in the episode. And then if she Became like a character again. They would have resurfaced it, but so like la. Use the star. Lana Kaiser has reportedly been fired from the show after she was caught appearing to use a racial slur in a resurfaced video. Producers edited Alana out as much as possible from episodes that were pre taped before the resurfaced racial video. Racial slur video was exposed. She couldn't be removed completely, but her scenes were significantly trimmed down into.
- [30:45]
Jackson Claude
She was episode gone. She was gone.
- [30:48]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. And it's very good for Zach because if he was, like, stepping out on Kada and like, being dishonest and, you know, we'll never know gone. It's like, like the villain. It's like the villain of Taylor Frankie Paul season.
- [30:59]
Jackson Claude
Yeah. They say Taylor Frankie Paul season.
- [31:01]
Jacqueline Folay
That was actually. I shouldn't have spoiled it.
- [31:04]
Jackson Claude
So back to Alana. They had to. Once you do it once, you have to do it to everyone. So, yeah, of course. I think we should all get comfortable, like, with this being a thing forever.
- [31:15]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. I was like, not even getting too
- [31:17]
Jackson Claude
attached to your favorite islanders.
- [31:18]
Jacqueline Folay
I could be. I was not even questioning whether or not, like, she was going bye. Yeah. So it's like just a crazy thing.
- [31:28]
Jackson Claude
It's just. It's like a. At this point, it is. Is a rite of passage for every season of Love Island. Someone is going home.
- [31:36]
Jacqueline Folay
No, but this is like the Santa. Also, this isn't the first of the season who she was. We never even saw her OG Villagers. I wonder who got her spot.
- [31:48]
Jackson Claude
It's giving Anaya.
- [31:49]
Jacqueline Folay
You think so?
- [31:51]
Jackson Claude
Anaya is like such a random person
- [31:53]
Jacqueline Folay
to be an og.
- [31:54]
Jackson Claude
To be an og.
- [31:55]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [31:58]
Jackson Claude
Yeah. Well, this at least. We never even got to know her. Like, it was actually very disruptive. When they sent Sierra home. She was like the HBIC of the girls. She was in the most progressed couple. She was the first one to close off Gone in the Night.
- [32:16]
Jacqueline Folay
Oh, my God. That was insane. Yeah, that was insane.
- [32:21]
Jackson Claude
Yeah.
- [32:22]
Jacqueline Folay
Well, our next story, Taylor Frankie Paul's Bachelorette season is preparing to air. So there's an excellent chance that Taylor Frankie Paul's season of the Bachelorette will air on ABC next month, TMZ has learned. Production sources tell tmz the current discussion behind the scenes is for the season to premiere in mid July, though final plans are not locked yet, sources say when ABC pulled the season from its schedule, editors working on the series never stopped cutting the episodes, a sign that the network was keeping the door open for a future premiere.
- [32:52]
Jackson Claude
Okay. Okay. I just feel like it actually really speaks to. Not that I. I don't want Taylor, Frankie, Paul to be canceled. Like, I want her. I really want her to be okay, but it's like, these networks are so unserious, and they're so. It's kind of like Bravo firing Chris and Dodie and then just to. Because people wanted them to, and then putting her back on the Valley. Like, it's just performative.
- [33:18]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [33:19]
Jackson Claude
He actually cares about any of these people. It's like, okay, I don't even care. I don't know why I get involved. Like, okay, you're gonna think.
- [33:25]
Jacqueline Folay
I think when the. When the video came out. And again, like, we know that production knew about the video. It's public record. Everybody knew that this happened. And people close to her knew the degree to which it happened, because even the girls you watch season one, they're talking about it. They talk about throwing bar stools. We didn't know what was going on at the time, but people knew. People who run back sharing checks on her knew. Her at producers knew. So I think the video coming out, like, it made it too hot for them to air her season that. At that moment, that night. But, like, it didn't change the fact that they casted her, and they casted her knowing all of this. And so I actually think, like, I. I want to see her season, and I think that, you know, we just needed some time. Like, it doesn't make it okay. It doesn't make it better. But, like, that was obviously a very, very dark and low point in her life. She.
- [34:16]
Jackson Claude
We all know who won, though, now.
- [34:18]
Jacqueline Folay
I know. But, like, yeah, the thing is, she
- [34:22]
Jackson Claude
was spotted with him, like, in the midst of this scandal, once they, like,
- [34:25]
Jacqueline Folay
comment on each other's stuff. Like, they.
- [34:27]
Jackson Claude
It does give, like, a viewer potential, hope that it does work out.
- [34:31]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [34:32]
Jackson Claude
But then she had to have picked
- [34:33]
Jacqueline Folay
up cameras, said she, like, came home and slept with Dakota, like, after her season.
- [34:40]
Jackson Claude
If. If this is still messing with this guy, this evil monster, another. Another person who's an actual bad person.
- [34:52]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, worse.
- [34:54]
Jackson Claude
Dakota Loserson. That is. That is irredeemable. I will af. I will actually be speechless.
- [35:04]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. But it's also, like, weird to think about how last episode of Salamu, she's going to Bachorette still on the phone with Dakota. And, like, so if we watch her season, like, we're watching that day where she's, like, still this, like, broken person, shell hung up on Dakota, like, she would need to be the Bachelorette, like, in. In a year from now, you know, like, So I don't know, but I think the season must be good if they're. If they're holding on to it. You know, if it were bad and she was right, her heart wasn't in it, they kind of might have been like, you know what? It's good that we. That we don't have to air it. So I don't know. I just. I'm, like, rooting for her.
- [35:40]
Jackson Claude
I know she makes it hard. She makes it so hard to.
- [35:43]
Jacqueline Folay
At every turn. At every turn.
- [35:45]
Jackson Claude
Almost always making the wrong decision.
- [35:48]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. No, it's. It's really hard. I can't imagine being her friend. I don't think I could be her friend.
- [35:53]
Jackson Claude
No.
- [35:54]
Jacqueline Folay
But I don't. I just, like, want her to, like, pick herself up and, like, she has so much, like, available. Available to her, like, so many opportunities. People really love her. People, like, really just, like, see themselves in her, and they see. Yeah, there's something about her that's just. People can't quit. But I think also, you know, I don't know. She's just, like, so vulnerable, and I just. I want her to get it together, and I think. I think her season airing will help her get it together because it's like.
- [36:20]
Jackson Claude
I agree. More. You go and depress and.
- [36:23]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. And, like, more upward. Like, she can come back into the public sphere a little bit. And that's why I kind of want her season to air so that her story didn't end like that, because Dakota leaked that video of something that, like, everybody knew that had happened and, like, chose to hire her.
- [36:36]
Jackson Claude
Still, speaking of Salamao, Jesse Draper is on vacation and, like, pretty much fully in a relationship with Marciano. Like, at first they were doing not blonde. At first they were doing, like, kitschy, like, Instagram stuff. People thought it was, like, a joke or just, like, whatever. But they're, like, fully in a relationship.
- [36:53]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. And, like, Michaela Matthews is, like, clowning on her and Jesse's clapping.
- [36:58]
Jackson Claude
Somebody has to.
- [36:59]
Jacqueline Folay
Well, like, but what if Marcy is. No, I'm sorry, love.
- [37:05]
Jackson Claude
He ain't.
- [37:06]
Jacqueline Folay
But she seems so.
- [37:07]
Jackson Claude
This is the person who, like, blackmailed you.
- [37:09]
Jacqueline Folay
I know that part is bad. He said, like, that you had sex when you did, and he tried to smear your name, tried to ruin your life. Okay. And also, like, them seeming so happy. Like, I take it back. Like, in a one minute, like, video, anyone can seem happy about anything. And, like, she also. They're, like, like, happy when she's with Jordan, you know?
- [37:28]
Jackson Claude
Wait, but they're, like. Right. But they're on vacation. They went last night to Stassi's, like, birthday dinner as a couple with her parents.
- [37:35]
Jacqueline Folay
Right?
- [37:35]
Jackson Claude
Yeah. It was a family vacation.
- [37:36]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [37:38]
Jackson Claude
It's crazy.
- [37:38]
Jacqueline Folay
And his parents seem to like him because they're making content with him.
- [37:41]
Jackson Claude
Another bad decision maker.
- [37:43]
Jacqueline Folay
I know, but, like, okay, but what if, like, what if they're otp? What if, like, their person, like, what if they just, like, are in love
- [37:50]
Jackson Claude
and we'll have to wait then. Then I can't say anything. I'll talk to me in 10 years.
- [37:54]
Jacqueline Folay
Okay. And, like, he's profusely apologized. Like, for what? You know what I mean? Like, what if.
- [37:58]
Jackson Claude
Has he.
- [37:59]
Jacqueline Folay
What if all the boxes are checked? I don't know, but what if.
- [38:03]
Jackson Claude
I mean, everyone can come back from, like, sure, sure.
- [38:06]
Jacqueline Folay
Like, what if this is it for Jesse?
- [38:09]
Jackson Claude
It's not. It's not gonna be Marciano brunette. It's not.
- [38:13]
Jacqueline Folay
I think it actually.
- [38:13]
Jackson Claude
I don't know a lot. I don't know a lot, but I know that it's not gonna be Marciano, brunette.
- [38:18]
Jacqueline Folay
I know. I'm just, like. I'm not right for this world because I just assume, like, the best intentions of people. I assume that everyone's telling the truth. I assume that, like, you know, if two people like this are together, then, like, everything was a misunderstanding and, like, just for tv, and they've worked it out, and I just, like. It's really hard to commentate on things where it's, like, we literally have 5% of the information.
- [38:39]
Jackson Claude
Speaking of whatever I have, you listen to Olivia Rodrigo's new album at all?
- [38:45]
Jacqueline Folay
I tried yesterday, but, like, I was driving a different car, and I couldn't drive a new car and listen to new music.
- [38:51]
Jackson Claude
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to bring up, like, drama.
- [38:53]
Jacqueline Folay
No, but you know what I mean. Like, I. I was trying to figure
- [38:55]
Jackson Claude
out the system is not your usual
- [38:56]
Jacqueline Folay
system where the windshield wipers were. I can't also be trying to process a new song like, I need. I had to put on 1989 Taylor's version, actually.
- [39:04]
Jackson Claude
No, you need your comfort music. That's like listening to new music. And this is what I did when I walked to and from the studio. That's what I listened to it just like a mindless walk.
- [39:11]
Jacqueline Folay
There's a time and a place, and it's not when you're driving a huge car that you've never driven Trip before.
- [39:15]
Jackson Claude
I have to tell you, I'm very hard on Olivia Rodrigo, and I just want to say I stand by that. Like, I think that, you know, we have conversations worth having. This album is amazing.
- [39:27]
Jacqueline Folay
I saw Liz Wood saying that. That's why I gave it a chance. But I have to give it a chance in a more controlled environment.
- [39:32]
Jackson Claude
It is so good. And you know, everyone's music sounds the same and some of it's good, some of it's not. But this just like also sounds different. It sounds like almost music that, that sounds like real music and it's really, it's exceptional. Like it's, it's a masterpiece. People are saying album of the year. Album of the year. I just want to say I don't think it's going to be album of the year. I. I think Noah Khan is going to be album of the year, which is also like going platinum in my home. Do you know that song about his mama?
- [39:58]
Jacqueline Folay
No, I don't think so.
- [39:59]
Jackson Claude
I'm an astronaut.
- [40:01]
Jacqueline Folay
Oh my God. I can't stop. I see it in reals. I see it in orbit singing for you.
- [40:07]
Jackson Claude
Yeah, it's so good.
- [40:08]
Jacqueline Folay
I see it in reals. And like if you want to make an emotional reel, you said song 100%.
- [40:13]
Jackson Claude
I actually made an emotional reel and didn't post it cuz it was like so emotional. And then people found out that the song is about his mom because you can make it about anything. But he writes a song about his mom which is like I'm an astronaut, you're the moon. I. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, I'll continue. So I think that's going to be the album of the year. Sorry, sorry.
- [40:30]
Jacqueline Folay
I didn't mean.
- [40:30]
Jackson Claude
I'm sorry. I also like that song. I'm with my best friend Dan now camping on the county line and then
- [40:37]
Jacqueline Folay
also scared to ask this question. Yeah, but what's with the San Juan song?
- [40:42]
Jackson Claude
Oh, I thought you'd never ask. So it was just a tick tock made by this guy who goes to. Are you okay? Do you want to take a break? Hold up. Okay. Getting a little choked up. The petition. That's just like really sweet. It is. It's so sweet.
- [41:08]
Jacqueline Folay
Let's end the show.
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Jackson Claude
Okay? I can't. We have two more ads. The San Juan song. So this guy made a tick tock and there's this app. Have you heard of it? Yeah, sorry. Like these jeans aren't going to pay for themselves. Cracking up. There's this app called Suno or something so new. It's an AI app that can like make songs for you. You can either tell it like I lyrics and they'll create. Ben created a Song on it, like, about the Knicks. Like, about my whole life, I've been waiting for this. And this guy went to San Juan, like, made a tick tock, and he had this app make him a song. I think he wrote the lyrics and asked them to, like. Yeah. Generate a song from it. And the. The song in its entirety is hilarious. About how we went to San Juan. He didn't want to do just tourist stuff, so I took the bus to Kaguas immediately. Was enchanted. The whole plane clapped when we landed. It is so catchy.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
The lyrics are hysterical. The guy's like, of course. Gone viral. He's on the Today show. It is just a good song. And so people just started using it a lot. It's gone viral. It's actually like, I feel like things haven't gone viral like that in a really long time. It's just like, corny ass, like, Ellen type, you know?
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, yeah. And it's just the way, like, music video. The YouTube video.
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Jackson Claude
Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's, like, very. A chewy millennial.
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Jacqueline Folay
That's so funny. Okay.
- [42:31]
Jackson Claude
Cute.
- [42:31]
Jacqueline Folay
So, like, we could make a song on so new.
- [42:34]
Jackson Claude
We should.
- [42:36]
Jacqueline Folay
Let's make another theme song.
- [42:37]
Jackson Claude
We just have to write lyrics.
- [42:39]
Jacqueline Folay
Oh, we should make a closing song where it's, like, about, like, you know, listen. Non Pot Stitcher. Cast Box. Public radio. Beautiful.
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Jackson Claude
I don't know if you've seen this. Have you seen that? Like, AI companies are doing, like, a lot of influencer marketing, and it's become, like, a lot, like, it's kind of become, like, a big deal because, like, so many influencers are, like, performative, talking about how AI is like, you know, rooting the government or the environment or whatever it does. And then they're over here, like, doing, like, chat ads.
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Jacqueline Folay
I've only seen, like, Billie Eilish.
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Jackson Claude
Oh, yeah. Well, I just want to say we love AI and so you can pay us and people won't find, like, videos of us complaining. Like, people have, like, yeah, you're never gonna go back and find old videos of us. AI is bad.
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Guest or Sponsor Voice
Bad.
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Jackson Claude
We love. I was using it this morning right before we started. So I just want to say I am available.
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Jacqueline Folay
Oh, my God. I went to get my eyebrows waxed yesterday, and she asked me if I'm on, like, any creeps or anything. So I was like, actually, I have
- [43:30]
Jackson Claude
my new friend, my rosacea.
- [43:32]
Jacqueline Folay
My. My redness cream. So we had to, like, look. I was like. I showed her, you know, the ingredients. I'm like, I think it's fine. It's not. It's pretty mild. It's not like anything crazy. And she was like, okay, I'll put it in chat. GPT. I was like, no, allow.
- [43:45]
Jackson Claude
I got the premium subscription.
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Jacqueline Folay
No. And, like, my chat really knows me, you know? And they like, so with eyesight chat. Can I use this? Got an eyebrow wax. And it was fine. And. And it was fine. Look. Look at these brows.
- [43:56]
Jackson Claude
So good. I'm getting mine done tomorrow.
- [43:58]
Jacqueline Folay
Ooh. I actually. So the last time I got an eyebrow wax was with this lady. And the last. I can't even tell you how long it was. I can't even tell you. Oh, no, no, it was Claudia. Like, if I tell you, it's embarrassing. How long?
- [44:11]
Jackson Claude
No, it's not. Like, some people, like, brows are like a necessary beauty appointment. The same way you get your hair X times a year. The same way you get a manicure once a week. Brows. I am one of those people. I try not to let, like, one or two months go by without getting my brows done. I have an amazing woman who comes to my house, shout out, Mercedes. Like, I, I. It's very important to me. But then there are people who. It's like, it's not an essential part of their beauty routine. It's like, yeah, I'll do it.
- [44:34]
Jacqueline Folay
Or my eyebrows, like, grow out, and then they sort of stop. It doesn't like. And also, because it's blonde, like, my unibrows, like, right fuzz. But just to say, last time I saw her, I had two children and I wasn't even pregnant yet.
- [44:47]
Jackson Claude
Yet. Oh, wow. Did you. Do you, like, pluck them on your own?
- [44:50]
Jacqueline Folay
No.
- [44:51]
Jackson Claude
Oh, sweet.
- [44:52]
Jacqueline Folay
But it's like, you only see what I draw in, you know?
- [44:55]
Jackson Claude
Of course. Speaking of my tweezers, I want to share, like, a very huge thing that happened in my house yesterday. My husband has had this blackhead right in his ear. Like, if I'm sitting next to him on his side and I'm looking at him, I could see the blackhead. It is so big. Like, one or two times I tried to pop it with my hands, and he was like, get off of me. Then yesterday, Ben had, like, a very long ear hair. So much, it was like, pulling out of his ear, like a. Like, seriously, like a. A hobbit. And he was like, can you pluck this for me? I was like, can I pluck this? Of course. I went and got my tweezers. Then I was in his ear already with my tweezers. I said, give me one shot. I've never Gone at it with my tools. You know, just my hands. And it's in a tough spot. I used my tweezer. It came out almost instantly. It should have been on like a doctor pimple popper. Tick tock. It was the biggest, most gratifying moment of my life thus far.
- [45:43]
Jacqueline Folay
I'm gonna throw up.
- [45:45]
Jackson Claude
Oh, okay, cool. Like, just girls if, you know, you know, like, I couldn't even look at my husband anymore. Like, this big thing in his ear.
- [45:55]
Jacqueline Folay
Oh, my God. I'm literally nauseous.
- [45:58]
Jackson Claude
It was so amazing. It was like, the head was very black, and I got the sack, too. Like, it was just incredible.
- [46:04]
Jacqueline Folay
Not the sack.
- [46:05]
Jackson Claude
Yeah.
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Jacqueline Folay
Let's get into our next story. Actually something I'm excited to talk about.
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Jackson Claude
Is it what you're excited to talk about? That's brought to you by Tucker Knuck, a brand new sponsor, but not a new company.
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Jacqueline Folay
I actually am more excited to talk about Tucker Nuck than I am to talk about this next story. Because Tucker Nuck changed my life. Not to be dramatic, I was a
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Jackson Claude
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- [47:02]
Jacqueline Folay
just need, like, a wardrobe refresh every day.
- [47:05]
Jackson Claude
Tucker Nuck just makes, like, really elevated. Like, I needed a good T shirt because you remember, like, over the winter, everyone was wearing, like, cool T shirts under their sweaters. Like, peeking through.
- [47:12]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. Oh, I love that.
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Jackson Claude
And I wanted, like, a nice one that I just. That I only wanted to buy one of. I got it from Tucker. Knock. It was so literally everything is amazing.
- [47:20]
Jacqueline Folay
No. And it's like, I feel like when you reach a certain age. I remember I discovered Tucker Knuck, like, where after I had Charlie and I was, like, getting my body back a little. I was like, I want, like, cute things, but not so short. Not so skippy, like not so. So I want like to look like nice and classy. And that's where the classy women shop
- [47:36]
Jackson Claude
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Jacqueline Folay
Thank you, Turt menu.
- [49:13]
Jackson Claude
You're welcome.
- [49:14]
Jacqueline Folay
Our next story, Noah Cyrus is collaborating with Frankie Jonas. They have a new song coming out, and she's opening up about connecting with her best friend, Frankie Jonas. So when I saw this come across my algorithm, I was like, what in the what? Noah Cyrus, Miley's little sister, Frankie Jonas, Bonus Jonas, Jonas Brothers, little brother have a song out. So I watched the video of, like, the teaser for the song, and it was amazing.
- [49:40]
Jackson Claude
So fun fact that unless you're chronically online, you most likely don't know, because he hasn't had any, like, real mainstream success. But Franklin Jonas makes music and he is an incredible singer. He does a lot of, like, very high quality, like, reels promoting his music. And the songs are always good, but his voice is, like, insane. I think he, like, tours if you're
- [49:59]
Jacqueline Folay
in the Jonas thing after and, like, he. He makes music and he tours and
- [50:04]
Jackson Claude
if you're in the Jobro fandom, I think, like, a very niche part of it is, like, also a huge Frankie Jonas fan. I don't really understand why, like, him being so musically inclined, like, why he wouldn't just be added to the Jonas Brothers. And you know what? I think that they actually could use, like, a little bit of a refresh,
- [50:18]
Jacqueline Folay
like a Gen Z addition.
- [50:20]
Jackson Claude
Why not add Frankie?
- [50:22]
Jacqueline Folay
Maybe he doesn't want to be a part of it, but that is very awkward.
- [50:25]
Jackson Claude
It is like, he's doing music. He's really good. It's not like he's bad.
- [50:28]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [50:29]
Jackson Claude
I think in the documentary, like, about their reunion, there was, like, this awkward element because at one point, like, Kevin was not really getting better. He was getting worse at guitar. He doesn't vocal do vocals. So when everyone's, like, not performing at the same level, of course it's awkward, but Frankie's, like, crushing. I don't know why.
- [50:43]
Jacqueline Folay
I don't know either. So their new song is called High and Sad. It just came out. She wrote. I'm already tearing up thinking back on all the memories I've shared with Frank Frankie. It's funny. I've always felt like no one could ever understand my exact life and experiences, the way it feels to be seen as the underdog of a family. But anytime I think of Franklin, I knew he was somewhere understanding and sharing those same feelings and moments that only the two of us and very few people could only understand. I want to play the. The snippet because, like, I feel like people are going to be really surprised by what it sounds like. Yeah, I. I am, actually. I want to, like, pre save it on Spotify because I want to listen to the song. It was like a new sound. You know what? When you said, like, Olivia Rodrigo is like a new sound.
- [51:25]
Jackson Claude
Music that doesn't sound like other music.
- [51:26]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. This was giving new sound.
- [51:28]
Jackson Claude
Okay, okay, let's. Let's hear the sound. I haven't heard it. Very folksy.
- [51:44]
Jacqueline Folay
And don't want to always.
- [51:47]
Jackson Claude
It's a little gospel. You know, they grew up in a church.
- [52:01]
Jacqueline Folay
Isn't that good?
- [52:03]
Jackson Claude
It is. Again, I beg the question, like, why he's not in the Jonas Brothers. He is a brother Jonas.
- [52:07]
Jacqueline Folay
And looking at the video of Noah and Franklin, like, it looks like young Miley and young Nick. Like, it's really.
- [52:15]
Jackson Claude
That's really cute.
- [52:17]
Jacqueline Folay
Like, it's. It's a throwback. It's really cute.
- [52:21]
Jackson Claude
Before the stove.
- [52:24]
Jacqueline Folay
So anyways, that was a bit of content I enjoyed and was surprised by, and I thought my fellow millennials would enjoy it as well.
- [52:29]
Jackson Claude
A little Nepo sibling Q lab earned. Yeah, yeah. Noah Cyrus.
- [52:34]
Jacqueline Folay
Historically, I'm not a fan of Noah Cyrus.
- [52:37]
Jackson Claude
Oh, why?
- [52:38]
Jacqueline Folay
I don't know.
- [52:39]
Jackson Claude
I don't have, like, a feeling about her. Like, I don't think about her.
- [52:41]
Jacqueline Folay
I think the last time I saw what she was doing musically, I found it to be in the bucket of, like, dark, depressing, Billie Eilishness sort of content. And that's not my style. This is not that.
- [52:54]
Jackson Claude
Love that.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. Our fifth and final story. Real Housewives ultimate girls trip roaring 20th trailer promise promises the biggest crossover event ever with 82 Cammy videos.
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Jackson Claude
What was the. What was the headline news from this? Remember, we talked about it once? Like, someone.
- [53:10]
Jacqueline Folay
Remember they're going on a road trip?
- [53:14]
Jackson Claude
Yeah, okay, never mind. Maybe I'm just making something.
- [53:16]
Jacqueline Folay
I don't know if they're going on the road. It's a girls trip. They're going to six cities to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. And the OGs in attendance are Vicki Gumbelson, Luann Deeps, Portia Williams, Teresa Giudice, Kyle Richards, Giselle Bryant, and Lisa Barlow.
- [53:34]
Jackson Claude
That's a pretty good lineup.
- [53:36]
Jacqueline Folay
I have a couple of tweets.
- [53:37]
Jackson Claude
I've got a couple tweaks I don't love. Like, the Ultimate Girls Trip genre of, like, spin off. It just wasn't for me. I watched, like, the first two. It's like, whatever. It got old quick. But doing, like, an anniversary special with all the women, because it is always fun at, like, Bravo Con or when they do, like, the Watch Happens Live specials, like, when people convert. This is cute and fun, but I'M not, like, a big Ultimate Girls Trip fan.
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Jacqueline Folay
No, me neither. This is more so, like, about, like, legacy and, you know, just, like, honoring the moments. There's, like, a montage of, you know, all the iconic lines. I think some of them, like, you know, are reliving some of those moments and reenacting them as well, so that's fun. It just makes me feel a little, like, old and, like.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah.
- [54:17]
Jacqueline Folay
I don't know. End of an era.
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Jackson Claude
Even though it's very much which housewives are being represent or is representing New York. That feels good. That feels right. Even though, you know, people love to say Luann did have one season where she was demoted to friend of the.
- [54:31]
Jacqueline Folay
But I don't think the network could hand it over.
- [54:32]
Jackson Claude
Oh, no, no.
- [54:34]
Jacqueline Folay
Vicki Gunvalson is representing Orange County.
- [54:37]
Jackson Claude
Absolutely.
- [54:38]
Jacqueline Folay
Portia Williams is representing Atlanta.
- [54:40]
Jackson Claude
So I am the biggest Portia Williams fan. I love her like, I did. You see, she's actually going viral because she was on Z Way and. And, like, for the first time ever, she, like, beat Z Way. I'm not, like, entirely sure what the premise of the Z Way show is, but it's like, you're just supposed to, like, make the other one more uncomfortable. It's like. I think it's like, Caleb Presley vibes.
- [54:58]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [54:59]
Jackson Claude
And she's. It's the first time I've ever seen anyone, like, get Z Way back. Better.
- [55:02]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [55:02]
Jackson Claude
Are you ashamed of being thankful in.
- [55:03]
Jacqueline Folay
Are you ashamed of being slim?
- [55:05]
Jackson Claude
She's such a queen. Oh, yeah. Cornbread. I love her. The thing is, she's, like, a relatively late addition to the show. There are a lot of, like, og Nene.
- [55:15]
Jacqueline Folay
It should be Nene.
- [55:17]
Jackson Claude
I know Nene has a complicated relationship with the network, so I could say,
- [55:19]
Jacqueline Folay
like, maybe that's like, I also. Or it could have been Kim. But yeah, I feel like of everybody
- [55:24]
Jackson Claude
who's, like Charay, like, there's a lot
- [55:26]
Jacqueline Folay
in good graces, but I guess she
- [55:29]
Jackson Claude
is still actively on the show and filming and, I don't know, so is Vicki. So maybe they're trying to. To get people who are still, like, active on their franchises in some capacity.
- [55:38]
Jacqueline Folay
I saw someone tweet. I can't remember. Like, it was just a viral tweet. That Sincere from Love island has the same vocal inflection and mannerisms as Charay Whitfield.
- [55:51]
Jackson Claude
Well, okay, now I need to see.
- [55:53]
Jacqueline Folay
Watch out for it. Just watch out for it.
- [55:56]
Jackson Claude
She buys joggers.
- [55:57]
Jacqueline Folay
Teresa Judice, New Jersey.
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Jackson Claude
Of course. Of course.
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Jacqueline Folay
Kyle Richards, Beverly Hills.
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Jackson Claude
Of course.
- [56:03]
Jacqueline Folay
Gisele Bryant Potomac.
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Jackson Claude
That feels right. I mean, she's literally in jail. Like, so I don't know if she was available when this was filming. I think she actually was imprisoned.
- [56:12]
Jacqueline Folay
Okay. So that's the only reason. Because it should be Karen.
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Jackson Claude
She's my queen of Potomac. I'm sorry. Giselle represents her franchise and, like, her city really well. And I think whenever they have to tap someone for Potomac, she's almost, like, always the go to.
- [56:27]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. No, and she does it well. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, she's not really a wild card.
- [56:31]
Jackson Claude
And she, like, at the NBC upfronts, last week, they. Or like last week, last month, they had someone from every city, and it was Giselle. Like, she's always the ambassador.
- [56:37]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. No, and she's a good one. And she, like, you know, knows how to represent the. The franchise. Lisa Barlow for Salt Lake City. Very interesting. Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
I mean, I don't know who else it could have been. Maybe Heather Gay.
- [56:51]
Jacqueline Folay
Heather Gay.
- [56:51]
Jackson Claude
I'm sure she's shocked because the network, like, loves her. She has her own show on Peacock about Mormonism.
- [56:57]
Jacqueline Folay
Her daughter is getting her show on. On Campus Confidential is a new show. I don't know if it's on Hulu, but it's like her daughter taking us behind the scenes of her university.
- [57:07]
Jackson Claude
Oh, yeah. She's kind of a darling of. But I don't think the fans like her. That's the thing. She was, like, a fan favorite, and then people turned on her. People just love, love, love Lisa Barlow.
- [57:17]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. So I would say Lisa and Heather are both, like, at the same tier of doing, like, iconic stuff. You know, songs, books. There's like, receipts, proof, timeline. But I'm sure that Heather is shocked that it's not her.
- [57:28]
Jackson Claude
Yeah.
- [57:29]
Jacqueline Folay
And then they're gonna stop in, like, six cities. There's 82 cameos, and that's what's happening August 9th.
- [57:38]
Jackson Claude
I would watch out. I would watch out.
- [57:40]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, we'll be together, so maybe we'll watch together, maybe we won't.
- [57:43]
Jackson Claude
Let's dive into our final segment of the day, which is Dear Toasters, long awaited. So every Tuesday, sometimes Thursdays, Thursdays for the foreseeable future, while Love island is on, we like to do an advice segment where we just try to help out members of our community. You can write to us via email, dear toasters, gmail.com or head on over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. you can scroll down to the submission box that says Dear Toasters, if you need advice from us or anything going on in your life, we're going to try and help you. And it's, you know, it might not be the advice that you want to hear, but it's the advice that you need to hear. Are you ready? Hey, Jackson. Claude. I love the podcast. I listen every day to stay abreast on what I need to know. So for context, I'm a sixth grade teacher. That's kids that are 11 going on 12. I'm currently teaching summer school and during a break one day I heard one of my students talking about how Melanie and Sincere are the best couple and Casey should leave. Anaya I interjected and asked if he was watching watching Love island and he said yes. I was shocked.
- [58:31]
Jacqueline Folay
I can't believe he thinks Melanie and Sincere are the best couple.
- [58:35]
Jackson Claude
I was shocked and asked who he was watching with, to which he responded that he watches by himself. Now, Love island is obviously not age appropriate. I feel so icky that he's watching all this orgy filled content. I'm not sure if I should call home to let his mom know that he's watching or if I should. If that would be overstepping. Should I just let it go? Because there's so much crazy stuff kids are watching these days and I shouldn't get involved. Please advice and thanks for the giggles.
- [58:52]
Jacqueline Folay
Oh, I would just like wonder how often you interface with his parents. Like, I don't, I don't know that this needs to be a phone call home. But like, do they pick him up? Do they drop him off? Like, you could just give an aside and just be like, hey, I, you know, is it a boy or a girl? I don't know. He was watching. I. He was talking about the show that he's watching. Like, I've seen some stuff and I think it's inappropriate, but I. So I just wanted to flag it for you. But you also like, don't want to tell people like how to parent. And so I don't know what like
- [59:17]
Jackson Claude
the policy is as a teacher, like when you do interject or say something because I think a lot of times it is overstepping and the parents don't react well. But in terms of your, like, I would just clear unconscious, like, yeah, say something like, yeah.
- [59:30]
Jacqueline Folay
And like as a parent I would want to know.
- [59:33]
Jackson Claude
Of course.
- [59:34]
Jacqueline Folay
So I think that's the right thing to do. And you know, the parent might think he's just, oh, watching the show Love Island. It's on Peacock, it's summer, it's fun, right? And they have no idea because they don't advertise that it's a pornography.
- [59:45]
Jackson Claude
Correct. You would never know, like, the depths of depravity that go on in that show unless you watch a whole episode. It's. By the way, 11 year old watching Love island is crazy work.
- [59:54]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. Really crazy.
- [59:55]
Jackson Claude
I'm sorry. I think step in, like, that's the job as a teacher.
- [59:58]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
- [59:58]
Jackson Claude
And if your biggest crime is that you, like, overstepped and made, like, a mom feel bad or whatever, like, okay, well, at least she knows that.
- [60:04]
Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. And just like, you know, say it as if she doesn't know what's on the show. Like, not, like, scolding her. You let your child watch this, but it's like, no. Right. Being, like, crazy. That's not appropriate for his age. If you just wanted to check that out.
- [60:18]
Jackson Claude
I also think, like, teachers have, like, their own methods. I think they're probably like, teachers whose, like, philosophy is to get involved and say something, who totally stay out of it. But I'm sorry, like, if. If you know this, you have to say something.
- [60:30]
Jacqueline Folay
Summer school is also different because that's not like your teacher.
- [60:33]
Jackson Claude
Right. It's not like your homegirl who you've known forever.
- [60:35]
Jacqueline Folay
You know, you're building a relationship. Ten months. Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
So you know what? It's home. It's summer school. It's fleeting. You never see these people again. Tell her. Tell her. Sorry. Eleven is nutty. Okay. Hey, Jackson.
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Jacqueline Folay
Claude.
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Jackson Claude
I need my two swirlies to tell me if I'm being psycho postpartum or if my feelings are actually valid. My husband and I. Scratch. My husband and I had a baby about three months ago. This past Sunday was my husband's first Father's Day. While sitting at the Father's Day lunch with his family, he got a text from a work colleague. A female work colleague who is not married and has no children herself. I looked over in enough time to read most of the message. Happy Father's Day. My baby's name. She don't want to say it. Blank is so incredibly lucky to have you as a daddy. Hope you're spoiled today because you deserve it. See you Monday. He quickly put the phone back in his pocket and did not respond. Today he came home from work with a gift bag and said it was a Father's Day gift. I asked it was for if it was from said woman. And he said, and I quote, yeah, sort of, but, like, from all the staff. I think inside the bag was a watch and two baseball tickets. I think this is extremely inappropriate and my mind has been reeling ever Since. Since is this normal behavior? Assigned a first time mama who doesn't know first Parent holiday etiquette.
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Jacqueline Folay
No, that's not normal. The gift is not normal. I watch.
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Jackson Claude
No, I think the text is even crazier.
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Jacqueline Folay
Baby is so lucky to have you. Send texts that are, like, very. You know, some people, like, wake up on Father's Day and, like, text all the fathers in their phone. You know what I mean?
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Jackson Claude
Oh, my God. You know what's so funny? We were just talking about this at mahjong. About how, like, when you marry into a family, like, some. Some people's families just have different practices that, like, seem so far into you and something that Ben's family does, which is actually really sweet. But when it first happened, I thought it was so weird. Like, the way you would text, like, your friends for your birthday. They also, like, text always me. Maybe even write a card for other people's anniversaries.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, some people just, like, you know, they're up on their text messages and so.
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Jackson Claude
Absolutely.
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Jacqueline Folay
Maybe this person, like, sent that text message to every father that she knows. So I don't think the text is so crazy because texts are, like, kind of meaningless, homeless.
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Jackson Claude
I don't know, father. Yeah, you do that to everyone's mother. But like, I'm sorry, Father's Day, Mother's Day are not equal.
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Jacqueline Folay
Oh, I don't think she's differentiating. I think she's like, you know, how do I, you know, like, and I
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Jackson Claude
think it's also, I'm sorry, like, single women, you have to be measured in your communications with married men. Same with single men and married women. Like, I feel like if you're upset, let's say there's nothing going on here and you're just setting that text. You're a crazy person.
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Jacqueline Folay
No, but like, like, if you just sent that text. If she just sent the text, like, okay, that. I think some people, like, just.
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Jackson Claude
I think it's inappropriate.
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Jacqueline Folay
Some people do stuff like that. But you have to understand, some people do stuff like that. And I think also it's like a way for them to, like, you know, center themselves. Like, hey, like, look at me. Like, I remembered, you know, and the gift is what's crazy to me because that's not just like, hey, I'm trying to send texts to everyone who's a father.
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Jackson Claude
No, I watch in two baseball tickets. What is this, a $10,000 gift?
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Jacqueline Folay
Like, what kind of want Pain.
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Jackson Claude
That's insane.
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Jacqueline Folay
You need more information.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah, no, this I know. And I would be curious, like, how your husband is responding. Is he making you feel suspicious of him? Is this a crazy person or are these two people crazy together, you know?
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
No. And this is not your postpartum hormones. Like, there's definitely something weird going on. I'm just not sure what it is.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, no. And if I saw that text, I would be like, annoyed, miffed. I'd keep an eye. Yeah, of course. But I would ultimately let the text go because, like, listen, you can't get crazy over everything but the gift.
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Jackson Claude
No, you can't. But it's weird.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, the weird. But whatever. The gift is insane. Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
I also just want to say, because me and Ben have like had this argument before. I think that, like, single women texting married men is inappropriate. Unless it's like, you know, my delivery driver and your order is here.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, I think, I can't think of, I guess, outside of work stuff. I don't know why I would be texting a single man or a married man outside of a work thing, but I guess she considers this a work thing.
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Jackson Claude
No, and I know this is like, I'm gonna sound crazy, but like, anytime I need to talk to like one of Ben's friends, like, I always put it in a chat with me, Ben and him or even the wife.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, yeah.
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Jackson Claude
Like, what do I be doing texting a man, Communicating with a man alone. It's weird. So inappropriate. It is like whenever I have to wish someone a happy birthday, like, perfect example just happened. Like with my friend Nikki. I literally put in a chat. Me, bed, Nikki and her husband. Husband. Like, yeah. Do you know what I mean?
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. Well, when you're operating in couples. Yeah. It's best to stay in the chat.
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Jackson Claude
Yeah. I just think that one on one communication between like two opposite gender. I think it's weird. Sorry, that's my toxic straight.
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Jacqueline Folay
You need a visibility, you need chaperones, you need visibility.
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Jackson Claude
Yes. Next up, our third and final hi swirlies. I love you both. I need advice. I'm getting married. My fiance and his family are Jewish. I am not important to note that they are not practicing, meaning they don't go to temple, but they celebrate all the holidays. Holidays. I'm not converting, but I absolutely would if my fiance asked me to for our wedding. My future mother in law is telling me that she gets a crowning ceremony at our reception because it's a Jewish tradition. I love the Jewish culture. We are doing a lot of Jewish traditions at our wedding, but the crowning ceremony I'm unsure of. Essentially, my mother in law Gets crowned at my reception. My Jewish friends have never heard of this and I don't want to come across as difficult, but it feels like my hands are tied. If I say no, it seems like I'm against this Jewish tradition. If I say yes, but she hasn't even asked me yet, but just told me it's happening, she gets a whole dedication at my reception. My question is, is this an actual Jewish tradition at weddings or does she want attention?
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Jacqueline Folay
I've never heard of that. Have you?
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Jackson Claude
Oh, yeah. It's called a mazinkle or mazinki or whatever. And I feel like it's being explained to you in a bad way. Like your mother in law's not getting a crowning ceremony. Basically when parents have married off at a wedding, their final child, there's this cute little ceremony where all the kids put the parents like on chairs on the dance floor and their kids like dance around them and just like celebrate the fact that like all their children are now married and sort of job as parents is done. I've been to a bunch of weddings where they do it. It's very sweet. It's very cute. Like it. I swear to God, it is not a crowning ceremony for your mother in law. That's an insane. She doesn't get a crown. And it's for both parents, mind you. Like, it's literally someone's explaining it to you. So weird because it's actually really sweet. I've seen it at a bunch of weddings. It's just a cute moment, like while people are eating. You can say a few words or not. It's just like a silly, almost like a skit. Like it's cute. You could obviously say no. But I do think it's like a. It's one of my. I actually would like. I think it's one of like a very. One of our most beautiful traditions and it really highlights like the importance of parents.
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Jacqueline Folay
I think this is perfect because you could be like, I looked into the mzinkel. I think it's such like a cute idea.
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Jackson Claude
So I need to get the right pronunciation.
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Jacqueline Folay
You tell her how it's gonna go, when and where and how it's gonna happen if you're okay with it. But it sounds like you're, you're open. It sounds like you're open to like a lot of things. And I don't see why you would be like not want to do it. But if you don't want to do it, you don't have to do it.
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Jackson Claude
But like, yeah, it's more, it's more cultural that it's not like an age old, you know, in the scribes, like so you're not. It's not a part of our religion that you have to do it. There are a couple of things at a Jewish wedding you have to do like cheva brachas. This is not something you have to do in observance with the law. It's a sweet like tradition that's been passed down. Like they used to do this I think in like the shtetls where it's like.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah.
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Jackson Claude
That it's such a relief when all your parents, especially parents of daughters.
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Jacqueline Folay
No, it's so cute.
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Jackson Claude
Get all their children married off that you just celebrate the parents. It's like a little moment. It's not meant to be. Like crown. That's insane.
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Jacqueline Folay
So like, so you should say, I've looked into the tradition. It's like so beautiful. Like, so this is when we're going to do it. This is how it's going to go. And you run the show and it also shows that like you've studied up and that like you do care and
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Jackson Claude
that is a real sign of respect.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah. That is assuming that you're fine with doing it, which I think you will be once you hear what it is.
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Jackson Claude
And I know this is not what you wrote in about, but if you are open and curious about converting to Judaism, I just want to let you know you have my support. We would love to have you. You would. You might relate to even more of this podcast, which is like a great reason to do it. And just I don't know if you were looking for a sign, but we would love to have you and you're more than welcome.
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Jacqueline Folay
Yeah, agree.
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Jackson Claude
That's our show, you guys. Jax is headed to Dallas so tomorrow she'll be tuned in from gls which is is little southern girl always fun.
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Jacqueline Folay
Always fun to switch it up.
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Jackson Claude
We will see you then. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast of Mil morning show where we Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe and give us video thumbs up. We're all available as Podcast Podcast Spotify tunes public ca place to podcast review about our beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented. We are.
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Jacqueline Folay
Love you. Bye.
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