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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off.
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Swirly.
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It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy.
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Oh, Thursday. It's feeling like a thirz. Cheers.
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Chugging along. Really feel like my time in Florida is coming to an end. Like, what is this weather? It's freezing. I heard it snowed in Pensacola.
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Wow. And you're there to see it.
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I know. And she's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville.
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Well, the weather's very on and off. Even as I was driving today, I had to put my sunglasses on, take them off. I try not to wear sunglasses when it's not super sunny because I don't want my eyes to, like, not be able to handle any sort of light.
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Speaking of driving, I do feel like yesterday's conversation about driving just sort of set me off on this journey of destruction. As I was pulling out of here yesterday, just, like, ran into a pole, and I heard this sort of, like, crickling, crackling sound. And I haven't actually went to the back of the car to investigate it. I just, like, can't bring myself to do it. And I feel like if it's really that big of a deal, like, Ben will see it and be like, hey, what happened?
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Someone behind you driving will honk and be like, jack, you're right.
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And the thing is about this pole is that I swear to God, when I was looking and I'm just at a stage in my life where, like, the cameras are enough, I really need not be turning my neck around. Well, yeah, I'm telling you, it wasn't.
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There on the cameras.
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The camera, it really. But then when I heard the crackle and I looked at the camera, I'm like, oh, big black pole. It really came out of nowhere. You guys.
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Just one thing to say.
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Oops, my bad.
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I just really gonna revoke our licenses.
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I can't be bothered with stationary objects. It actually is really crazy that, like, the average person can get a license. No.
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And that's what gives me a lot of comfort, like, knowing even when I'm doubting myself and I'm driving, I'm like, I can't do it. Like, knowing tons of people do it. Everyone does it. I once saw a video of a kid in another country. I think he was 4 years old, and he was driving a truck.
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That's interesting. You Know what actually brings me comfort that I think about all the time. And it's actually related to, like, when I was. When I first gave birth, I was, like, so paranoid that somebody was going to come and steal my baby. And a friend of mine was like, nobody wants your baby. Like, babies are a lot of work. I'm like, oh, I guess that's like, facts. Like, sure. People on the road, like, they don't want to be killed either. So, like, if I'm just, like, swerving into lanes and you're in my way, I also have a lot of faith that that person, even if I'm in the wrong, they're going to get out of my way. Like, they care about their car, too.
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Oh, I have no faith in that. Like, when I want to change lanes where an ordinary person would, like, if there's a car within 50ft of me, like, I'm not doing it because I just think they're not going to stop what they're doing.
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I just imagine, like, it's also annoying for that person to get into an accident. It delays your day. It's expensive insurance, police. Like, it's a lot. So I imagine they're also going to do everything in their power to get the out of my way as well. And that brings me great comfort because I'm like, I'm changing lanes and I'm like, I think nobody's there. And if there is, like, they'll get out of my way.
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They know what to do.
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Yeah. It's human nature to avoid destruction. So if I'm just, like, swerving into your lane, I have great faith in my fellow man that they will gtfo.
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Yeah. Okay. I'm not gonna apply that because I just don't think I'm at a place where I can be, like, so brazen on the road.
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You'll get there.
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Much more of a shy driver and introverted imposter syndrome, you know? But I think it sounds like we all have a bit of imposter syndrome on the road.
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It's true.
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We're all thinking the same things about one another.
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It's Thursday. I still did not watch Tell Me Lies, and I'm just feeling like, you.
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Don'T want to watch this show.
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No, I do, I do, I do. I love the show. I just feel like I don't know why I feel physically unable. Do you know what I mean?
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I'm still in the second episode. I watched more last night, but I couldn't watch that much. It's hard to go in and out of you really have to be sat.
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Yeah.
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So I understand if you don't want to like take it on once you're in it. It's so good. But like, if I'm pausing every five minutes, it's not the watching experience.
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I'm also just like, I've got this baggage, right? Like Ben, like when we get into bed, he's like, what are we watching? I'm like, well, I guess we are not going to watch a show that I watched two seasons of and that you've never seen.
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Yeah, it's been isolating for sure because I have to watch. Two nights ago when I thought we were watching, I was like, I have to watch Tell Me Lies for work. You don't it so you're on your own.
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The buck stops here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So instead we ended up watching because I realized there's only one episode of the Pit out and I watched it the other night, so I'm like screwed. We ended up watching. Ben was really wanting to watch Martha Stewart and like she doesn't have a show. Do you know what I mean?
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No. She has like bits and bobs of content. Like there's no like together.
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It's insane that she got to like the homemaker level that she is. Like I know the greats and she literally doesn't have a TV show. So he searched like in the tv, Martha Stewart. Yeah.
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And like these turn episodes on Amazon.
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Prime now on Samsung TV plus, which I guess I have. I think it comes with my Samsung TV or whatever. Yeah, it was pretty good. It was just like it was called Martha Stewart's Cooking School. And so it's like very educational. Ben was like taking notes. I did fall asleep. Like it just wasn't for me. She had this like famous butcher. Come on. So that's like I not only could I not watch Tell Me Lies, I got roped into watching something like Ben was into that.
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Sounds nice though. Like it sounds nice to watch Martha Stewart.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There's worse things he could have wanted to watch. Like Marvel.
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I do want to say though, because I watch a lot of cooking content with my husband and I feel like I'm very critical. You guys know I'm always talking about Aina and like I said, it's amazing that Martha's become this like billion dollar homemaker without ever having like a steady TV show. And I kind of feel like I.
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Understand why she is not like doesn't have that.
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Well, she's very educational. She knows. Nobody knows. Like she was talking about like, like making stews and putting, like, carrots, onion, celery, like, the classic. And, you know, they had. There's a word for those vegetables, like aromatics. Like, it's like a fincher of food. Like. Okay. And she's just, like, so, like, woke in cooking. Like, she knows everything, and it's just, like, kind of boring.
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Yeah.
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And if you're, like, taking notes, like, I. The roast chicken she made, I can make it. She explained it so perfectly, but it wasn't the most, like, entertaining. And I feel like maybe that's why her empire is kind of without its own TV show. And let me tell you, that bitch is so monotone. Do you know ever notice that? Like.
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Yeah, yeah.
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She doesn't.
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She's not, like, warm and fuzzy.
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No.
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And she's not trying to be, and she doesn't want to be.
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No.
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It's really educational. I watched, like, a compilation of her making pies over the holidays, and it was, like, bing, bam, boom, bop, boom, bop, bam.
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Yeah. No, like, pizzazz.
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No, no. Throw in a joke, right?
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Oh, no jokes and no smiles. Yeah.
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Even Ina, like, throws in a joke. You know, it might not be.
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No. It's awkward, but it's a joke.
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The most amazing joke. But she's like. She's got something. No. When you watch a lot of cooking content, you start to realize, I actually watch someone. You would think, like, she should have a cooking show.
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I'm not gonna say who.
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No, I'm not gonna say who. Because she's otherwise talented. It was just a feeling to me, like, oh, maybe she shouldn't.
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Yeah. Not everyone can do it, you guys. Even someone you would think, like, yeah.
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It takes a special kind.
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What else can I tell you? We had lunch together yesterday. That was nice.
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We did have lunch together yesterday. We had an. A nice time. We did.
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We always have a nice time.
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We always have the best time. I actually filmed something really fun last night. Bruno got a brand deal. Chewy. I don't want to spoil anything. No, no, no. It actually might be up for Toasty Lions when it comes out. I have to get the content approved, but, yeah, Bruno's gonna start paying his home bills. As the most expensive member of the family.
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There's quite literally nothing better than when your dog starts bringing in money. Like, I remember when I got Theo, it was like, such an added expense to my life. It was kind of my first big responsibility. And I was like, I'm not even worried. Like, we're gonna get so many brand deals. I think, over his lifetime, we got one with Barkbox.
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You got Amazon pet, remember?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay.
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So sorry.
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2. And that Amazon pet one paid extremely well. Oh.
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And Barkbox was the gift that kept on giving. There were so many toys all the time. Yeah.
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Except that I was paying for Barkbox, like, and I couldn't figure out how to stop paying for Barkbox. And then I got the brand deal, and I was like, oh, that's great. Now I pay for all the boxes. And at one point, I think I was getting two a month. It was insane. And I could not figure out how to cancel it. That's how they get you. You know, they make their portal so confusing. It didn't bring in as much money as I thought it would.
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You know, having a pet.
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Yeah.
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You know what I was thinking about yesterday? I don't know why I was thinking about this. Like, I don't know what set me off in this course, but I was thinking about when you had Theo and how, like, he was just, like, the center of the universe, the moon and stars. I took being a dog aunt so seriously for our family.
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Like, none of us had kids yet. It was our first, like, really big responsibility.
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Like, when you would ask me to watch Theo for the weekend, I would clear my schedule.
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Yeah.
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Every time he came in from a walk, we would have baths. I'd make, like, little spa set up for him. I would, like, do photo shoots with him.
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Cared so much.
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And I even remember when, like, Olivia was pregnant with for the first time.
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Yes.
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I remember thinking, like, how am I going to love a child like my niece? Like, even more than I love the dog.
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No, it's inconsistent that I could have more love than this.
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Yeah.
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Because the love doesn't get greater than it did for Theo.
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That's what I thought. Now, of course, my heart's expanded. Now I'm like, the worst dog. I am. Get these runs out.
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Even let Magnolia into her house.
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Right. And Romeo, seriously, like, on his. Yeah, on his last leg. But it was just really funny to think about the evolution of, like, how your prior, like, priorities. A whole weekend. I wouldn't go. I wouldn't go out because I'm like, theo needs me.
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But I do think it also prepared us. Like, it was the first. Not for mother, but just, like, for responsibility.
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Yeah.
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Like, it. It's a necessary step.
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Yeah.
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I think all young married couples should get a dog. But if they're, like, not having kids quite yet.
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And if you want a dog. But also. But it does get hard if you want to have a kid within the next few Years. And then, like, you do have this young dog that needs a lot. I think there's. It could go either way now with Brew, like, we slayed the timing, and he's an amazing addition. And he's just one of the boys.
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With Theo, like, we had planned on slaying the timing, obviously God had other plans.
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Yeah.
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I'm stuck with Romeo.
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But you had Ruby at the same age. Romeo, it's different because he was your second dog. But you had Ruby at the same age. Romeo was as I had Harry with Bruno, 18 months apart. You had two under two.
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It was just different.
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Yeah, no, it was different for like a mold or two.
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Different.
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I agree. And Bruno is, you know, he's just a real one.
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I'm gonna say something crazy.
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Shout out to Bruno today.
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I think I love Bruno more than I love Romeo. I love Bruno. I really love Bruno.
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It took a while. I feel like it didn't. Oh, I feel like everyone like clowns on Bruno.
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No, that's Magnolia. You're getting confused.
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No, no. For a while they just like. I feel like Bruno didn't get his shine. He just sort of.
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Well, Bruno constantly lived in the shadow of Theo. Theo was like, sort of. It's honestly insane that Theo was ever earthside. He feels ethereal. Like, even.
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Like he always was ethereal.
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He was this, like, sort of larger than life being. And Bruno definitely got shadowed. Got shadowed. So kind of the best thing to ever happen to Bruno was Theo getting cancer. Makes you think that Bruno poisoned him and gave him cancer.
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Perhaps. But I also want to say, to Bruno's credit, like, when Theo passed, Bruno really stepped up to the plate as, like, the number one voice.
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The big wise dog.
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Yeah, the big wise dog. He really took on the role.
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He did, he did. And I just. I feel like maybe I don't say that enough. I love Bruno.
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Oh, my gosh. I love. I. Oh.
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And Bruno loves me.
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Oh, he does. He really. He loves his auntie. That's so sweet. I'm so glad Bruno's getting his flowers today. We talk a lot of trash about Bruno. But, like, sometimes I just, like, look at him. I was sitting with him this morning, cuz whenever I'm sitting, he's like, oh, girl.
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Oh, sitting.
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He's love sitting. I'm sad.
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Yeah, right.
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And I was just like, he's sitting such a good boy. When he's not being crazy broodini, like, Mr. Steal your snacks.
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Now we're having this conversation about Bruno, and I do feel like we're skipping over, like, A brief period of time, like it wasn't all perfect, like when you had babies and like you started blending. I feel like you went through like a Romeo phase too, where like you guys just couldn't be bothered with Bruno and he was just like, sort of there.
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No, sometimes I can't be bothered with Bruno. But like he, he, he's fine with that, you know?
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Yeah, right.
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And like I've always said, like, we have like stry o', clock, whichever evening hours, and he gets to co. Sleep with us and then the rest of the day, like, he knows, know his brothers have needs.
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Yeah. Bruno Potter. Bruno lives under the stairs, but like. And actually quite a, quite a very cool contraption. Not like Harry Potter.
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Yeah, no, he actually has like a. I would call it like a beautiful cottage.
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Yeah, the actually cottage core. When they were like renovating their house, they built into the bottom of the stairs like how Harry Potter had a door. There's a door, but it's a crate and it's quite lovely. Yes. Do you worry ever about like the structural integrity of your house? Because if one thing goes wrong, like, Bruno's dead if he's sleeping.
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Oh, if the staircase were to.
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If something.
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Good thing he's never in there.
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Yeah, right, right, right.
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Good thing he's always with his mama.
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And let me tell you, having a dog is wonderful, obviously, but having a crate is so fudgeing ugly. If you care even like a little bit about esthetics, this big black, wiry cage is so fucking ugly. So having your little built in cottage is really a privilege.
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Yeah. And he has a place to go.
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And then people are like, well, why don't you get one of those like nice crates? Like it's. I'm not spending that much money on a dog.
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What's a nice crate?
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You know, if you go to Wayfair, they have like really part like a little dog house and they wooden and I'm just not there yet. Certainly not for Romeo. Maybe for Theo.
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Does Romeo sleep with you?
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No.
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Oh, he doesn't?
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No.
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Well, he's still being trained.
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Yeah, he's still being trained. The crate is really good for him. And like we, when we never put him in the bed because we knew we were gonna have a baby and like when he was of age where he could start sleeping with us, I was pregnant and I was like, no, let's not get used to him sleeping because we're shove him back in the crate. And then like Ruby started sleeping the other night and like, he could have. But my sleep Is too important to me now.
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Yeah. Oh, and not for Romeo.
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Yeah. Oh, right. No, no. And like. Yeah, no, no.
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Understood. Well, that's. What's the latest with the pups.
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Yeah.
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RIP Theo, RIP King.
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It's always Rip Theo, RIP King. Like, I know when I die, like, Theo will be greeting me at the gates of heaven. Like, I still have lots of love for Theo.
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B
He's your soul dog, as Margot says.
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A
No, I know. And that's like a cringe online term. Except when we're talking about Theo. Like, he's my soul.
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B
And you can't have more than one soul dog.
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A
No, no, no.
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B
That sounds like a movie. Soul dogs.
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Yeah. And it's like dogs on a plane. Soul plane.
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B
What's the dogs movie?
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A
Marley and Me.
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Airbud.
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Yeah, airbuds. A real tear jerker, that airbud.
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Don't forget airbud too.
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That's where we got our airbuds niche. Inside joke. Yeah, you have to be.
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I love listening to music on my earbuds.
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Yeah, I actually don't.
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Me neither. Corded.
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I'm in a corded phase. Except I went to the gym yesterday and like I was moving. Obviously that's what you do at the gym. And I like, frost the cord. Oh my God, they ripped the fuck out of my ears. It was actually like a hazard. You shouldn't wear corded headphones to the gym.
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Yeah, but at least like when one falls out, you don't have to like go scurrying under the machine looking for it. Like an airbud.
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That's where we got our earbuds.
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Yeah. Let's get into the stories. The stories are actually fun. Today I'm excited to chit chat with my swirlitude regarding the stories.
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A
Oh, is that your side?
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Okay. Yeah, I feel like. Okay.
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Okay. Well, sure. Having said that, whatever Jackie just said is brought to you by Wayfair. New Year. New Year. Yeah, that's it.
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Yes.
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Thank you. Your first shirt yet?
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Welcome.
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Our first story. Not to make it about ourselves, but the 2026 iHeartRadio podcast nominees have been revealed. So I Heart Radio is one of the only institutions really taking the art of podcasting so seriously enough to give it an award show. They're not calling it the potties, which is a mistake.
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Don't worry, like we will one day fund the potties and we will give.
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Ourselves all the, like free idea to iHeartRadio. It shouldn't be called the iHeartRadio Podcast Awards because it's just like, like a mouthful.
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Well, but not only that.
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And they have their own podcast. So it would be like it's an.
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Honor to be nominated.
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It would be like the Netflix Movie Awards.
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Yeah, exactly. So they should change the name and then like have it be secretly funded by iHeart. Because that's like, like seriously Spotify doing awards for podcasts. You're gonna give it to your Spotify. And so I Heart Radio has a lot of really popular podcasts and they didn't only nominate iHeart podcasts. We were nominated. We're not an iHeart podcast. But I don't feel confident that we'll win because I think there's, like, another iHeartRadio podcast in there, and they're obviously gonna lift up their own.
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However, it is fan voted. So if the toasters want to vote for us in the best comedy category, feel free. Like, let's talk about the nominee. So your girls were nominated for best comedy Podcast, and I don't, like, want to complain.
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No, of course. But I was also, like, confused because there's best pop culture podcast, and I guess we're funnier than we are pop culture.
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It's like, whoever did the nominees really gets it because we always say, like, the point of the show is not pop culture, even though we do fast pop culture stories per day. Roughly 25 per week, sometimes more. But the toaster at iHeart was like, it's not about pop culture. It's about the hilarity of Jackson Claude.
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Correct.
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So we were nominated for best comedy podcast along with Good Hang with Amy Poehler.
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Great.
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The Globe winning podcast.
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Yeah. Right.
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Distractible Handsome and the Basement Yard.
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Oh, do you know the Basement Yard?
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No.
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They're super funny.
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Who is it?
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It's Frank and his friend, whose name I don't know. Their clips are. They're literally like a TikTok Bill podcast. But they, like, there are a lot of Tick Tock Build podcasts, but they have, like, a lot of. A lot of fans. They do, like, big tours. They're super funny. They're like. One of them's a dad. One of them, I think is just married, and they're just, like, funny.
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Oh, great.
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They're very, like, Brooklyn. I don't know where they're from, but they're so Brooklyn.
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So who do you think will win?
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Like, Amy Poehler.
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But do you think the Good hangers are more fervent.
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The Hanger Honors. Yeah.
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Than the Toasters?
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Yeah, I do. Obviously, I can't say, like, I think we're gonna win, but I.
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The thing is, I. I actually, like, feel free to vote for me. Like, I'm not gonna stop you.
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Oh, yeah, feel free to vote.
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Um, but I have no, like, plans to go to the show, so I don't really, like. It's an honor to be nominated.
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Yeah. I am curious if this is, like, you know, this is actually like, our.
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First real big nomination, I would say.
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I don't know. We were.
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And you're the Shorty Awards.
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I also. I was nominated for two People's Choice Awards, so.
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Oh, for the Toast.
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Yeah. Yeah, I did get a Shorty Award. Please don't make Me tell that story again? Yeah, no, that's true. This is. I would actually. I want to say I would love to win. Like, sorry, I'm not. I'm not better than that. You know, it is, of course, an honor to be nominated, but I just want to go on record saying, like, I want to win, so please, like, I will make multiple accounts and I will vote for myself. Whatever. It's like, five times a day, whatever the rules are. But that's probably not enough to compete with Amy Poehler.
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But I have no plans to go to the award show anyway. That's why, like, this year, like, feel free to vote.
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No, you guys, like, but, like, we just.
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We're trying to be cool, but, like, if you want to vote for us.
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A
Yeah. It's like, are we. We're cool. But, like, one thing about me specifically, I won't, like, drag you in with my. Like, I'm unbelievably desperate for, like, recognition. And this is it.
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As. Is this the recognition you've been waiting for? Best Comedy Podcast?
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I haven't been waiting for it, but of course it's an honor to be nominated.
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Yeah. It really is an honor to be nominated. Now, we were also snubbed.
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Yes.
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In a. In a category that I cannot believe exists, and they found enough nominees that weren't us.
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You know, it's actually disgusting that we were not nominated for Best Ad Read. I mean, did you just hear that whole Wayfair snub haha thing? And then the Ali callback, Like, this is disgusting.
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So they actually have a category for best Ad Read.
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We are not nominated. And I have to imagine that these are all I heart podcasts, and this is, like, I heart's way of, like, you know, honoring their own sponsors. But it's not.
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It's. Conan o' Brien needs a friend.
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Is he not? I heart.
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I don't think so.
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Let me look it up. Hold on.
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Call her daddy. Not Iheart. My brother. My brother and me.
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Like, okay, that's definitely my brother. Hold on.
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My brother.
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My brother is. No, it's not.
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Dudes on dudes. I need to see the specific ad reads that they're talking about, because I really don't. I don't know how anyone.
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You don't do To Die Hard.
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I don't know how anyone could do it better than Thuma. Oh, I mean, please.
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Oh, by the way. Okay.
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Even though they're not a sponsor.
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Dudes on the divisional round. Is that what it was called?
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Nope. Oh, Dudes on dudes.
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Oh, I'M sorry. Wait, hold on. Okay. Dudes on Dudes is an iHeart podcast. It is hosted by Gronk and Julian Edelman. And I just. I can imagine their ad reads might be funny, but I also can't see them caring enough because I've never heard of the show.
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Fine. Distractibles.
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I'm on my way. Distractibles is a Spotify podcast hosted by Mark Fishback. My favorite Wade Barnes and Bob My Skins Moistkins Whiskens. Thoughtful discussions about finding out their otherwise interesting stories from everyday life. I don't know, I just. I seriously can't imagine that they're coming up with original jingles like we are.
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No. And doing live ad reads. Nobody does live ad reads. I actually don't know one person that does live ad reads, so that's.
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You know what? I take it back. I don't want to win this award because an institution that wouldn't recognize our branded work is disgusting.
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B
Right. So that. That honestly felt like a snub to me. And then there. I'll just share some other nominees. They have Podcast of the year. So that's like, the big one.
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Yeah. Like movie of the year.
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Of the year. Entertainer of the year. Good. Hang with Amy Poehler.
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I do fear it's Amy's ear. I just want to say that it was of, like, a big podcast this year.
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Yeah. The Breakfast Club.
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I feel like, first of all, that's iHeart, right? Because it's radio.
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Yeah.
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I feel like it's probably radio show of the year. I don't think necessarily think it's like, podcast of the year. Just saying.
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Mel Robbins podcast.
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Just hold on. Can we talk about Mel Robbins?
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I don't have a lot to say because, like, it's kind of missed me, but I think that's, like, the point of what I want to say. It's like it just. It came out of nowhere.
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So Mel Robbins is everywhere. She has, like, books. I know. Let Them was, like, a really big thing. I. It's kind of how I feel about the weekend.
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I feel like I actually practice the let them theory.
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If you are a Mel Robbins super fan, like, please show yourself, because I don't know, something's just not adding up about, like, her presence online.
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I agree.
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Like, I think if you are the big, like, there is not a podcast that Mel Robbins won't go on. And I feel like if you are, like, at a certain level, like, you do, stop going on every single podcast to promote your own podcast and just something about, like, how like. Like, low she'll go. It's confusing to me. Just saying.
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Yeah. I don't know. But maybe it's just like, so not our. Our thing.
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That's what I'm saying. But I also, I haven't met someone who, like, loves the Mel Robbins podcast, so that's why I just want me. I'm definitely wrong because she's everywhere. But, like, if you are a Mel Robbins super fan, like, please show yourself in the comments.
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I agree. Show yourself. Pablo Torre finds out.
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Okay. I heart radio podcast the Daily. I guess I just feel like, I don't know, awards like this, like, shouldn't be given to, like, big corporations. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah. Give it to the little guy.
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100.
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The rest is history.
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Okay.
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This past weekend with the Ovon.
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Okay. I feel like actually he had a kind of a quiet year. Just saying.
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Yeah. Call her daddy.
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Yeah.
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Heavyweight the Claudia Story. Don't be rude and Giggly Squad. I just want to say I feel like any award shows that, like, don't nominate Joe Rogan or can't really, like, any podcast awards, like, really can be taken seriously.
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I know people like to like, exclude him as, like, a political statement, but it does. You're right. Like, it does take away whether you like it or not.
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It's like when they don't nominate Morgan Wallen, right. For best album, when he had the best album or the biggest year, when he was the entertainer of the year.
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Yeah.
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You don't even have to give it to him. But by not nominating them, like, it seems unserious and, like, extremely skewed.
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That's actually a really good point. Now, can I make a prediction? I do think it's hard for me. Like, obviously I live in my own world, right? Like in their only podcast. But I feel like if I haven't heard of your podcast, like, you were not the podcast of the year.
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And we check the charts all, all the time.
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A
Yeah, yeah. And I haven't even, like, listened to podcast, but I've heard of.
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Right, of course.
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So I do feel like I can eliminate a couple from that one.
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Well, do you want to predict your winner?
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Well, I think it's either going to be. Well, I don't know who it's going to be because I don't know how these work. I don't know what the politics are, but for me, I think that the podcast of the year was either Good Hang or Giggly Squad. Like, they really had a huge year. So that's my prediction. But I don't know who they're going to give it to because I don't know, like, the back end. With the back end. Philanthropy, politics are.
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I wish it was really, like, votes based.
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Yeah, of course. Like, I think they take in consideration, like, who gets a lot of votes. But of course, you know, the president of iHeart is like, you know, back there yelling at people.
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Yeah. Like, is he really gonna let Theo Vaughn get up there and make a.
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Speech and shake that thing?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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So very exciting for the industry. It's an honor to be nominated. Of course.
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Of course.
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I don't know where you can vote, but we'll be sure to let you know whenever we know.
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Can you also tell me who was nominated for Pop Culture Podcast?
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Oh, yes. Best pop culture Last culturist does.
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Oh. Oh, but they are iHeartradio. Actually, if they weren't dealing with their big Jasmine Crockett gate, I do think they probably could have and would have won and it wouldn't have been like a I heart. Like, they would have been deserving.
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Yeah. Call Her Daddy Therapist.
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That's got my vote.
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Giggly squad.
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Oh. I feel like they're more comedy than pop culture.
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And Vile Files also having a rough week.
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But also that's kind of par for the course. I don't think it takes you out of the running. No.
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That's what the Podcast Awards are about. What they should have a category. Best Bounce Back from a Scandal winner.
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I want to say I think Jake Shane could and should win. Like, I agree it's become a real destination. And I think, like, this year particularly, you know, everyone obviously call the Daddy's Big all the time, but like, in this year, particularly about the year. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of music artists, like, who otherwise would have gone on Call Her Daddy are now going to Jake. Luke Combs is on. Did you say See?
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Yes, I did see. It's really like, one or the other.
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Yeah. For music people.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I did see Luke Combs. I'm excited to listen to that.
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So I did, like, when I had a feeling he was going on because Jake started posting a lot that he's in, like, his Luke's homes era. I'm like, well, if he wants Luke Holmes, he can get Luke Combs. So I was like, sending him songs, like, you have to listen to these songs. And I was like, sending voice memos. I'm like, okay. And he also has a wife and he has two kids. Like, I was just giving him, like, a little bit of backstory and so I. I'm feeling hopeful.
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I think it's gonna be great because I think, if anything, it's just gonna be different than what we usually see from Luke.
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Yeah. Like Luke on Joe Rogan. Like, I'm sure if you're into hunting, like, a lot of that did go over my head because they weren't really talking so much about music. They were talking about their shared interests, which is like, game hunting, fish. Yeah.
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Loving every day.
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And so obviously I listened to it, but I was, like, just kind of, like, lost for a good portion of it. And I don't think I'll be lost.
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I think you'll be found.
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Yeah.
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Cure, you will be found.
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No, not Ben Platt. Luke Combs has a song.
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Thank you.
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I didn't want to sing then.
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Platt.
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No, no, no.
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B
Are you ready for our next story? We should actually. Some podcasting news that I do fear you're gonna hate, but Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson is launching a podcast, a video podcast, which is pretty interesting. So he's launching the Pete Davidson Show, a new video podcast filmed in his garage. It will be streamed on Netflix. So he has announced the Pete Davidson Show, a weekly video podcast filmed inside his home, inside his garage. He said that's where the best conversations happen. It launches on Netflix on January 30. He said Netflix was the home of my first standup special, so it felt right to bring the podcast there, too. It's me and my friends talking about anything and everything. It's going to be a great time.
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So I saw. I don't know if you saw Liz woods posting about this. Apparently there's like, a lot of controversy here because Netflix now, like, making podcasts that are just like talk shows and they're going to be on TV is kind of like a backwards way of creating, like, a late night interview show without having to pay union workers. Like, the way you get Jimmy Fallon made or Jimmy Kimmel made is like, you need so much staff. There's so many unions. It's, like, much more expensive and slow and like classic tv. Whereas, like, now in the digital age, like, podcast doesn't have any of that stuff. And so it's like, it's. This is essentially the Pete Davidson Joe. Like, it's a. It's kind of like an interview show, like how David Letterman would be. But they don't have to deal with any of that union hogwash.
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Says who, though? Because if. Says Liz, but if it's filmed in his garage, like, there's going to be camera operators. There's Going to be producers.
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Yeah, but they're not union workers.
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How do you know that?
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Cuz that's what they said on the story. I don't know, you know, like, like I'm saying it's not a union show.
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And just cuz something's called a podcast. Like that just means non union. Yes, podcast means non union. Yeah.
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Thank you. I'm glad you get it.
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B
Is there something in the union contract that's in a podcast?
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No, but like if you're creating a show and like you're doing it, like.
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B
If you're creating a TV show.
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No, if you're creating any type of show, union makes it harder, it makes it more expensive. And so this is like a way of very legally and not doing that and just hiring regular camera guys.
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Interesting. So you think it's all about the union?
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No, but I just think now we're at like an intersection in media where forever TV has been unionized and now with the podcasting game, it's just a little bit more free.
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And the union is SAG AFT show.
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A
Yes, it is.
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So this takes it back to SAG aftra. All roads lead to SAG aftra because I feel like when you say like the union union, you might not realize like it's SAG aftra.
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Right. And that means you have to like pay all your workers, give health care. Like it makes the afsha, it makes it expensive. And so this is kind of like the first big Netflix thing that's non union.
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Well, I look forward to hearing from SAG AFTRA regarding this matter.
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A
Yeah. You know, Fran, even though you know she's not the president anymore, who is is for me, it will always be Fran.
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But that's fine. I'm like ready for a new president. I feel like she, she was there for the big moment.
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A
Yeah. When it mattered most, Fran was there.
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President SAG AFTRA is Sean Aston.
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Sly.
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So I look forward to like what they have to say now about this.
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Back door in terms of the actual podcast. So we were talking earlier in the year that like Netflix is in the business of accruing podcast. They did a big partnership with Spotify and now they're making their own, which is just like repackaged tv. Right, Right. This is like the David Letterman show.
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This will also be on the podcast app and Spotify. So that's what makes it a podcast.
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A
But everything like Netflix originals are always only available on Netflix. So will this be available on Spotify and the and like app at Stitcher?
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B
Great question. Because otherwise it's Just a show, right.
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A
That they're calling a podcast. And I think maybe that's where some of the controversy lies.
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B
I'm not, not seeing that. It's exclusive to Netflix. It launches on Netflix and it's a podcast. So we better be seeing you in.
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A
The App Store because you're not a podcast if you're not on Apple. Just saying.
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B
Yeah. What do you think about Pete Davidson joining the podcasting sphere? If he is? I feel like it could be successful.
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A
Yeah. The thing about Pete Davidson, that's so crazy and this is going to be like an extremely hot take. I don't even know if I want to say it. Maybe we'll cut it out. Like in terms of his level of celebrity, he. He's like, he's not that accomplished. Right?
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B
Like, well, that's what Chat said.
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A
Oh, yeah. That's where that theory came from.
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B
We did a patreon a few weeks ago. It was just about pop culture and Chat.
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A
I'm gonna ask. I'm.
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B
The prompt for us was like, who do we think are the most overrated celebrities? And so we gave our answer.
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Remind me what you said about Pete Davidson and why he's overrated.
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But we also recognize that we're very biased because we don't consume everything all the time. So we asked Chat, like for unbiased opinion of who are the most overrated celebrities based on, like their actual body of work. And one of the names, and by the way, they were kind of spot on with like a bunch of stuff.
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Yeah.
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B
One of the people that they said was Pete Davidson. His celebrity is much bigger than his actual body of work.
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A
So his public profile is over. This is what Chat says. His public profile is overwhelmingly driven by high profile relationships rather than standout, standout comedy, acting or writing. The fame to output ratio is off.
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B
The fame to output ratio comedy doesn't match the hype.
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Oh, well, he's. This is what Chat says. He's likable and self aware. But his stand up and SNL work haven't really produced many iconic era defining moments that justify people's obsession with him. He relies more on Persona than craft, which I actually don't think is a crime. I think a lot of like, really funny do. But the sad boy, damaged but charming angle carries a lot of his appeal. That vulnerability reads as authenticity, but it often substitutes for range or evolution. Yikes. PR and media culture do the heavy lifting. He became a symbol of the Internet and press latching onto messy, relatable dating famous women. But that narrative snowballed faster than his actual body of work. So cultural curiosity is more than his. Like him as a cultural pillar, he's interesting to talk about, not necessarily essential to comedy. The attention he gets far outweighs his long term artistic impact. So I think there are a lot of like, huge comedians who would be like Netflix's first podcast who have like a larger body of work. That's not to say that it won't be good or funny. And I think celebrities really like him.
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B
Yeah.
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And so much of being an interview show is getting good guests. And when it comes to people feeling comfortable, like, I do think he'll pull a lot of people with the Netflix thing and then also just him being himself. But I feel like as a comedian, like, we don't really know him.
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Yeah, I agree with Chat about the fame to output ratio. However, I feel like that bothers Pete too. Like that he doesn't want all of this. It's not like he drummed all of this up. Like, I think he would rather, like people focus on the work rather than his fame. I actually think this has the makings of a good podcast one. Like you said, he'll get good guests, but I feel like he's just a funny person. And that's what like, that's what Chad says.
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A
It's more his Persona.
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Right. That's what like, it's not about the like one liners and the crack and jokes, like the stand up, like. So I feel like that's what a good podcast is. Like, someone who's just like, funny and can talk to like friends and have a funny conversation and make us laugh. Also, like, him being a new dad now, I feel like maybe he'll have a lot of funny stories, insights, and just like a new pov. And I wouldn't be surprised if like this became like, very popular, like, good hang with Amy Poehler. Like, I feel like she was post poised to be a good podcaster and I could see the same for him now. I could also see it being like another Pete David, Pete Davidson right here about that we talk about and that we never talk about again.
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A
Yeah, the thing with Amy Poehler is I think Amy Poehler really likes to work work and like, is a hard worker, you know, And I think that's why her podcast is so successful. I don't think she just like shows up. You know, with Pete, I haven't gotten the vibe that he's like a big hard worker. And the thing about a podcast is, like, you can really tell when someone's into it. No matter how big or famous they are, you can tell when they're just showing up and reading cards or that they like really love it and they're getting like. I feel like that's what happened with Chloe. I feel like at first, maybe like things were really being done for her, but then she like really started to like. And I think her podcast has gotten more and more successful because she's so in it. She picks the guests and she asks the questions and yeah, she has a lot of. Of help. I don't know if I see that for Pete, like wanting to really get in the weeds on it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we'll see.
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B
We will see. But it's not a bad idea. No.
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A
And it's really interesting that not only is Netflix getting into the podcasting game, they're creating their own podcasts. I'm curious where it's going to live. It has to live on like the audio.
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B
And by the way, if it doesn't go to the, the App Store and Spotify, it's not a podcast and I will not. It will be the Pete Davidson show.
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A
It's just a non union show and.
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B
I'm calling SAG myself.
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A
Yeah. And they would be right for being upset for sure.
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B
Are you ready for our next story? Oh, yes. Sets Bravo return with Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip. So Nene Leakes is officially coming back to the Bravo verse with the Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip. The mother of all housewives and former star of Real Housewives of Atlanta is making her return to Bravo with the spin off which is celebrating 20 years of the Real Housewives franchise. She said this has been a really long, long journey and gosh, I'm happy, overwhelmed to say that I will be returning to Bravo. I almost can't believe the words that are coming out of my mouth. I'm just so happy. So the Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip follows a group of beloved housewives from across the years. They embark on a once in a lifetime adventure, making their way through some of the most memorable locations in the franchise's history, starting where it all began in Orange county and culminating in an epic, epic east coast grand finale. Each stop will feature appearances by fan favorites from different cities to pay tribute to the past, embrace the present, and look toward the many miles still ahead.
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A
So it's like an anniversary special. I for one, am thrilled that Nini Leakes will be back on my tv. Although I am confused because she was embroiled in a lawsuit. She was suing Bravo for kind of like serious allegations, including Racism. And so I'm shocked that she would go back.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I don't even know where we landed. There are a couple housewives who, for me, I thought were just like, Persona non grata. Like, if you've ever been embroiled. A couple of housewives who were involved in the lawsuit, or at least speaking to that. Was it Vanity Fair about Andy, Leah McSweeney, like, you'll never be back. And I thought Nene was one of those, which is a shame because she's an OG and she's iconic. I thought we would never see her again.
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B
Yeah. I think that's why she's, like, so shocked and Right.
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A
And I thought that was not only.
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B
Her choice, but there's also right on both parties. So that's why, obviously they've made amends. They can come together. And I think she's excited for this. I want to say this show sounds like a good idea in theory, but in practice, I have no interest. Like, no. This is watching all, like a bunch of OGs come together and just like, talk about the thing. Like, it's not gonna be like, new moments. It's just like rehashing the old.
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A
This is for, like, hardcore super fans. It's cute and it's fun and it's a nice way to pay homage. I don't think it's gonna be gangbusters. We need multiple seasons. Like, I think it's gonna be a one time thing. And yeah, I'm not like, you know, dying to watch it, but you never know.
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B
It's just gonna be like a lot of, like, hugging and oh, my God. Like.
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A
Yeah, I don't think it doesn't sound like there's gonna be Dr. Sounds like it's like a produced anniversary special.
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B
I think they're, I imagine, like an RV with a bunch of OGs and then like, stop in different cities where they've done housewives and like, see other housewives. Like, say, or go somewhere where they went on a trip and be like, well, this happened here. And, like, I don't need a museum tour of the Real Housewives.
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A
I don't either. But a bunch of OGs on an RV, like, doesn't sound bad. I just want to say that part. Something about an RV is just.
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B
She is addicted.
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A
It makes amazing television, scripted or otherwise. So, yeah. Nene sharing a bus with, like, Teresa. Like, okay, maybe Funny. Yeah.
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B
Real Houses of Salt Lake City. The first episode of the season, they went on an rv and was it amazing? No.
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A
Oh, what show was. I just. Oh, did they take an rv? Was it Vanderpump?
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B
Brules Kardashians.
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A
Oh, that wasn't good. Because, you know, their asses did not sleep in that thing.
- [41:37]
B
Like, no, they did. I mean, Chris went.
- [41:39]
A
Well, Chris went home. But I just feel like it was fake. Like, I. I did not get the vibe that they were actually doing. Doing it, but I feel like it was someone else when they went to Big Bear or something. Vanderpump rules. I think they went camping. Right. And they took an rv, Maybe. I don't know. It's great tv. It can be great tv. So actually, that element of the road trip part. Yeah, I agree with you. Like, the hall of fame moments. Oh, here's where I threw up. Like, I seriously don't give a. But funny people like Nene being in close quarters, that actually could be funny. Because the thing about Ultimate Girls Trip, it's still very Lux. So it's just like a brand trip. I do like when they slum it like that Sonia and Ramona show. No, Sonia and Luanna. I don't know if it was popular. I liked it. It was very funny. Where they went to that random town in Illinois and, like, you know, tried to help the town. It was funny. So the simple life sort of vibe.
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B
Yeah, it might.
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A
Yeah. I'm just being optimistic.
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B
That's really generous of you.
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A
I feel like.
- [42:30]
B
Well, oftentimes I would be, but I've realized I've watched none of these shows.
- [42:34]
A
I've watched a couple. Nene does not do things poorly. Like, she's just a funny person. Person. So anything that she's a part of, like, will be funny. And so they were right to bring her back. There aren't a lot of housewives. I think a lot of housewives think that they have that they're like, everything I do is so great.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it's just, like, actually not. I've watched Ultimate Girls Trip. I don't. Where did we ever land with that? Because that they were doing them and they were getting a little bit more successful. And that Morocco trip, which never made air because Caroline, Brandy. Yeah. Did that end the Ultimate Girls trips for good?
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B
I don't know. And now there's so many other things. Like Traders.
- [43:11]
A
Yeah. I do feel like when Bravo was trying to bring old people back, that was one of, like, the first projects, and it didn't.
- [43:17]
B
I liked the first one with the Jersey Housewives. Ramona was there, Kyle was there. Was really, like. Yeah, icons only.
- [43:28]
A
But I feel like then Bravo found success with, like, other things and didn't need to do that ultimate girls trip anymore. And I think it was expensive. I think a lot of those women, like, won't do anything, anything less for less than, like, a lot of money.
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B
Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story?
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
No.
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A
So sorry.
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B
No, that's okay.
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A
Oh, my God, I'm so clamped. Hold on.
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B
That's okay. Take your time. I'll give you space to get ready for the fourth.
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A
Our fourth story is brought to you by Amazon MGM Studios. From Amazon MGM Studios comes Melania. She's done this before. Now it's your turn to witness how she does it again. This new film takes you inside the 20 days leading up to the 2025 presidential inauguration through the eyes of the first lady herself. Critical meetings, private conversations. Watch what it really takes to prepare for one of the most powerful roles on the planet. Melania. Only in theaters January 30th. Today's episode is also brought to you by Booking.com booking.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Booking.com offers a wide variety of hotels, vacation rentals all across the US So you can find exactly what you're booking for. There's something for everyone, even those who are impossible to please, like the girl I'm sitting next to because I'm planning this fabulous road trip. And I will be using booking.com because of all the places we're going to stop, we're going to need accommodations.
- [44:35]
B
Now.
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A
I feel like at one point we were definitely in our hotel era, but when we travel now, we just have like, you know, bigger needs. We need a fridge for the breast milk. So a house really accommodates us quite nicely. And booking.com has it also, whether you're booking for yourself, your partner, picky teenagers, or a high maintenance group chat, you can find exactly what you're booking for. So stays for from booking.com just really always get really specific. And I actually think the older you get, your travel needs become much more specific and you can't just like pull up and, you know, you know, just be crazy. You know, things require a little bit more planning, especially if you're traveling with kids. When we're doing, you know, kid list trips, we're looking for something even more specific. And so that's why I really like booking.com especially for big family trips. Finding a house that accommodates all of our needs, that has lots of outdoor space, maybe a playground, lots of bedrooms, it's really can be hard to do. But booking.com does it flawlessly. So find exactly what you're Booking for@booking.com. booking. Yeah. Yeah. You can book today on their website, which is, of course booking.com or in the app booking.com booking y.
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B
Thank you. Booking Turdy.
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A
Not your best.
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B
I was just like, maybe I shouldn't say that because, like, people might go to Booking Turdy. It's always the risk I run.
- [45:45]
A
I know, but that's where like, personal accountability needs to take into place. Why would you be going to Booking Turd?
- [45:49]
B
I don't know. These brands like to get fun. They do. With the. With the synergy.
- [45:53]
A
Yeah. With the call to action. So don't go to booking. Go to booking. Calm. I feel like we're, like, even outperforming our Ataris. Ever since we've been snapping, snubbed.
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B
I know. We have to show them.
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A
Yeah. We'll show Gronk.
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B
Yeah. Our next story. Justin and Haley Bieber are loining up against a Tick Tock over a Tick Tocker over abusive marriage allegations. So Justin and Haley have lawyered up against a Tick tocker Tick Tocker who claimed that. Who claimed that they had an abusive marriage fueled by the singer's alleged drug addiction. The couple's lawyer sent social media user Julia Bully a cease and desist, claiming she fabricated her story about their marriage per tmz. In the letter obtained by the outlet, the lawyer writes that the psychologist has allegedly spread, quote, outrageous, false, fabricated and defamatory statements she made and disseminated online.
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A
Imagine being a psychologist and you're making videos about Haley Bieber. I just want to say, like, get off Tick tock and get back to your clients.
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B
He also claimed she manufactured, quote, a false defamatory narrative concerning our clients and their marriage that were published and widely disseminated. Noting that her conduct is wrongful, highly damaging, actionable, and exposes her to substantial liability. He went on to demand that she immediately take down the videos in question, as well as stop posting that the Biebers are in an abusive relationship. If she doesn't, the couple would have no choice but to protect their rights and remedies against you. He concluded the letter by reminding Julie that she acts at her own peril and to govern herself accordingly.
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A
Now, I know people are like, oh, big bad celebrity rich people coming for the little guy. And I just want to say, say this around and find the out. I literally don't care. And yes, I'm a toxic Haley Bieber, Stan, and I'll probably support anything she does. Having said that, people on the Internet are far too comfortable being mentally ill and like, actually just saying things like, whatever comes to their mind. And not only do I think this girl, like, you can't just say someone is a drug addict and abusive. Like, those are kind of big things. And saying them as a professional, people would look at a psychologist and be like, oh, well, she obviously is smart. She sees something we don't see. So you can't just say whatever the fuck you want. And I also like what message not only this sends to this particular person, but to people who want to be crazy and just say stuff in general. I like this.
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B
And to people who want to diagnose people that they don't know that they've never met, who want to sort of like yield degrees that they have an education that they have and projected onto people that they've never met. I think that's not something that you should do.
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A
And I could see people being like, well, Haley, like. And Justin, you're so famous. Like, why are you bothering with a random tiktoker? And it's like normalized stuff bothering you.
- [48:20]
B
Well, yeah. Well, I was going to say that surprised me about this is like, that they saw it, that it bothered them, that it bothers them enough. Let me do something about it.
- [48:28]
A
I didn't even see it.
- [48:30]
B
Oh, really? And I like what's going everywhere on TikTok.
- [48:33]
A
No, but still, it must have gotten big enough to get, you know, across her desk.
- [48:36]
B
She had this, like, theory that they're in an abusive dependent, right?
- [48:41]
A
And so, like, that this relationship will last forever because Haley is codependent on an abusive narcissist, like, really using all the big buzzwords. And it's like, girl, you literally don't know these people and want, like I said, like, get back to your clients.
- [48:51]
B
And actually maybe not get back to your.
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A
Well, I like that this story is becoming public because if I find out that my psychologist is being sued by Haley Bieber for making tik toks, I for one, am glad because I have a new psychologist now. And so Haley is actually doing a service to this woman's clients. Because you can't have a psychologist who's making tik toks. I'm sorry, you can't. I feel that way about a bunch of industries. Whenever I see someone like, oh, I'm a blank and I'm. And like, you have a tik tok following. I'm like, well, you'll never be my blank. You know, I know social media is forever. I'm like, it's really not.
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B
No, I saw that recently and I was like, I had the same Thought of like, how can you be in a certain profession and be making these tick tocks?
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A
It's really finicky. Like when I see plastic surgeons who do like, here's what I think this celebrity has had done. I'm like, okay, well I'm literally never going to you. I just like, even like it's very finicky with doctors. I do think doctors can be on social media, but it's such a private thing that I would prefer that they're not.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, I just would.
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B
But some, some people like do it well with doctors.
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A
Educational content.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But if you're like making viral buzzy content on TikTok and you're a doctor, you're never my doctor. Sorry. You're just not. Yeah, same like a therapist. When I see therapists making, I obviously don't go to therapy, but if I ever did, I would make sure that they don't make tick tocks because like that's crazy. I'm sorry. Social media is not for everyone.
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B
Yeah. So maybe she will cease and desist after this and maybe people will take heed.
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A
I just think like you should think before you say something.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm surprised.
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B
We've never gotten a letter to cease and desist.
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A
I mean we don't, we don't like say allegations.
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B
We don't like go around diagnosing people. We don't, we just make jokes.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. Bad behavior. Kiefer Sutherland has been arrested after allegedly assaulting his ride share driver. Oh my good. Yeah.
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A
Is there a dash cam footage?
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B
I'm not sure. But he was arrested shortly after midnight on Monday, January 12th. Officers responded to the scene near Sunset Boulevard where Kiefer Sutherland he was found. Officers from LAPD responded to a radio call regarding an assault involving a ride chair driver. The investigation determined that the suspect later identified as Kether Sutherland Keer ker entered a ride share vehicle, physically assaulted the driver, the victim and made criminal threats toward the victim, the driver.
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A
Oh my God. Here I am like always telling celebrities not to drink and drive. Take an Uber and then this one takes an Uber and beats up his driver. Like, seriously, celebrities are sick. They are sick. I don't even know what to say here. This is crazy.
- [51:21]
B
Yeah.
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A
Oh my God. Like seriously, Uber drivers don't get paid enough to deal with people's. Usually it's like verbal assault. Physical assault is so crazy. Like it's just insane. You, a celebrity, a man, like, what are you doing?
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B
I don't know.
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A
That I need a psychologist to diagnose this, because that is really not normal.
- [51:40]
B
No, that's really bad. Ker.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Ken Keether Keifer.
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A
And you know who his dad is?
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B
Donald Rip King from the Cousin Snow.
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A
Not a lot of people know that.
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B
Well, they're both Sutherland.
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A
Benicio Del Toro and Guillermo del Toro.
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B
Yeah, the Sutherland boys.
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A
Correct.
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B
Donald, he would not be pleased to hear about this.
- [52:08]
A
Oh, I don't think my father, President Snow, would be too pleased to hear about. About this.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So just don't beat up your Uber drivers. I feel like that's kind of a good message to leave everyone with. Yeah, like, even, like, I've had, like.
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B
A rule of thumb, you know, Even.
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A
If you want to let it be.
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B
An exercise in restraint, just walk away.
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A
Yeah, that's really crazy. Like, this person's literally driving you home. Like, it's insane. Everything comes back to driving.
- [52:35]
B
It really does. It really does. But, yeah, I don't.
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A
Know. Tisk. Tisk.
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B
Those are the past five stories. Feels, though, they were weird. You needed to know. But they were fun.
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A
I had a blast. I, for one, enjoyed myself.
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B
What was your favorite one?
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A
Oh, I'm so glad you asked.
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B
We should do this at the end segment.
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A
I feel like the Hel Bieber one.
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B
Like, oh, really? Yeah.
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A
I feel like I had a couple of, like, funny lines, you know?
- [53:03]
B
Oh, that's good. That's good. I feel like, for me, me, obviously, the Podcast Awards, but I do sort of get a little insecure that, like, people don't care as much as we do when we talk. Like, yeah, there are a couple.
- [53:12]
A
There are a couple of, like, topics.
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B
So I was enjoying myself, but I was feeling insecure.
- [53:15]
A
Yeah, like, you were enjoying yourself knowing, like, you would get hate. Like, yeah, yeah. The life of a pod T. Lop.
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B
But I did enjoy the Pete Davidson one, because I know people like talking about Pete Davidson. I don't, but I like the other subjects in that story, like podcasting, future of the industry, sag aft. And I got to say, sag aftra today, you guys. So it was a good one. I'm happy.
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A
I'm happy, too.
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B
Job well done.
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A
Now Traders comes out tonight. I do believe it's multiple episodes again.
- [53:43]
B
I heard. So let's recap it Monday. I enjoy the show. I want to enjoy it. Me, too.
- [53:48]
A
And Ben got in bed last night, was like, he's obsessed. He's like, do we have any more Traders?
- [53:51]
B
Oh, and you know what? Maybe this will give my husband some time to catch up, because I wound up having to watch without him. And then we could watch it together because that's like a fun for the whole family.
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A
Agreed.
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B
I'm trying to think who he's a fan of that's on the show. Well, he'll enjoy the Donna Kelsey until he.
- [54:03]
A
Yes, yes. The Limited Donna. The Limited Donna. Sounds like a little stroke.
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B
The Limited. The Limited Donna. Oh, you sent me a video. I didn't even get to discuss it with you. So we answered our question yesterday. When do the faithfuls find out who the traitors were? And when they get eliminated, they get that note saying they've been murdered. And then the producers tell them who it is and films their reaction, which I'm obsessed with.
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A
Like, if you go to the trader social media accounts, you'll see Portia and Donna both finding out who the traitors actually are.
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B
And they also share their guesses as to who the traitors were.
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A
And let me say Donna and Portia both guessed nobody correctly. And then every time they flipped a card, they were like, I knew it.
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B
That Portia literally. She gave her guesses and they were wrong. Every card was like, Lisa Rinna. I knew it, Rob.
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A
Oh, I knew it.
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B
No, you didn't.
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A
You didn't. Because we literally just asked you who you thought it was.
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B
Ask who you like. I'm so glad we're literally. No, you didn't know.
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A
No. That's like a new favorite part of the show for me is people's reactions, because I imagine it's like such a mind. And Donna, too was like, oh, I knew it. No, you literally didn't. We just saw you not know it.
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B
But no, even if she knew it, she wasn't gonna nominate. Oh, yeah, because we had them.
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A
The producer sits them down.
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B
It was like, who do you thought it was?
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A
None of them got it right. And every person's reaction was like, I know knew it, but you factually didn't. Yeah, so we just saw that. Now you're a liar. That's our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the Toes on Monday morning show. We love the Fast Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please subscribe. Thumbs up. Also available podcast pound beautiful sounding on Michael Town, we are. Hope you have an amazing day and we will see you tomorrow.
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B
Love you. Bye.