Podcast Summary: The Toast – "All Roads Lead to the Road"

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Jackie and Claudia Oshry serve up their trademark blend of playful banter, pop culture commentary, and personal anecdotes. Titled "All Roads Lead to the Road," the conversation meanders from driving mishaps and TV recaps to in-depth discussions about the 2026 iHeartRadio Podcast nominations, podcast industry gossip, Bravo's latest Housewives spin-off, celebrity scandals, and their evolving feelings about pets. The episode is peppered with their signature humor and candid takes, making this a quintessential Toast experience.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Florida Weather, Driving Fears & Mishaps

00:30–03:32

• Jackie shares that her Florida stint is ending and comments on the surprising cold weather:

  “I heard it snowed in Pensacola.” (00:30 – A)

• A parking lot mishap: Jackie hit a pole while relying only on her car’s cameras. The duo jokes about driving confidence, the randomness of getting a license, and “imposter syndrome” on the road.
• They muse about human nature and self-preservation while driving:

  “It’s human nature to avoid destruction. So if I'm just, like, swerving into your lane, I have great faith in my fellow man that they will gtfo.” (03:05 – A)

• Both admit to hesitant driving habits and discuss comfort in the idea that “everyone does it – even 4-year-olds in other countries.”

2. TV Talk: "Tell Me Lies" & Cooking Shows

03:35–07:03

• Jackie confesses she can't seem to watch “Tell Me Lies” even though she likes it, largely due to not wanting to start shows Ben hasn’t seen.
• Claudia details watching cooking content—Ben wanted Martha Stewart, resulting in viewing "Martha Stewart’s Cooking School."

  “She explained it so perfectly, but it wasn't the most, like, entertaining... Let me tell you, that bitch is so monotone.” (06:06 – A)

• Comparison between popular cooking personalities like Martha Stewart, Ina Garten, and others:

  “When you watch a lot of cooking content, you start to realize, I actually watch someone—You would think, like, she should have a cooking show. I'm not gonna say who. Maybe she shouldn't.” (06:51 – B)

3. Pet Love, Influencer Brand Deals & Family Evolution

07:05–14:14

• Claudia reminisces about filming a brand deal with Bruno and how having a “working dog” feels rewarding.
• Discussion of influencer pet economics; sometimes deals don’t pay off (“couldn't figure out how to stop paying for Barkbox!”).
• Reflecting on the centrality of Theo, Jackie’s dog, in their early adult lives before kids, and how priorities shift over time:

  “I took being a dog aunt so seriously for our family.” (08:39 – B)

• Candid takes on “soul dogs” and the hierarchy of pet affection (“I think I love Bruno more than I love Romeo”).
• Funny confession about Bruno finally stepping up after Theo’s passing, even joking, “Makes you think that Bruno poisoned him and gave him cancer.” (11:07 – A, delivered with their signature irreverent humor)
• Brief discussion about dog crate aesthetics and home design.
• Wrapped up with honoring Theo (“RIP King, he’ll greet me at the gates of heaven”) and goofily riffing on dog movies and AirBuds (14:03).

4. Podcast Tech: Earbud Preferences

14:31–15:09

• Quick, whimsical sidebar on preference for corded headphones over AirPods:

  “I'm in a corded phase. Except—I went to the gym yesterday… they ripped the fuck out of my ears. It was actually like a hazard.” (14:43 – A)

5. Main Stories and Pop Culture Analysis

(Stories begin at 19:17)

a. iHeartRadio Podcast Award Nominations

19:17–28:22

• Jackie & Claudia discuss The Toast's nomination for Best Comedy Podcast, joking about why it’s not called the “Potties”:

  “They're not calling it the Potties, which is a mistake.” (19:19 – B)

• Skepticism about the odds of winning vs. bigger shows like Amy Poehler’s “Good Hang”:

  “Obviously, I can't say, like, I think we're gonna win… probably not enough to compete with Amy Poehler.” (22:19 – A)

• Commentary on the award for Best Ad Read and feelings of being snubbed:

  “It's actually disgusting that we were not nominated for Best Ad Read. I mean, did you just hear that whole Wayfair snub?” (22:55 – A)

• Side discussion about fairness in podcast awards, major platforms’ influence, and the exclusion of certain big names:

  “I feel like any award shows that, like, don’t nominate Joe Rogan… can’t really… be taken seriously.” (26:44 – B)

• Predictions and musings about possible winners:

  “I think that the podcast of the year was either Good Hang or Giggly Squad.” (27:43 – A)

b. Pete Davidson’s Netflix Podcast & Podcasting Union Controversy

30:31–38:28

• News: Pete Davidson launching “The Pete Davidson Show”—a “video podcast” on Netflix (filmed in his garage), raising debate about whether it’s a podcast or a non-union TV show.
• Concerns about union-busting via "podcast" format:

  “...it’s kind of like a backwards way of creating, like, a late night interview show without having to pay union workers.” (31:07 – A)

• Claudia probes the definition of podcasts:

  “You’re not a podcast if you’re not on Apple. Just saying.” (34:10 – A)

• Jackie quotes ChatGPT's take on Pete Davidson as "overrated" and more famous for relationships and Persona than creative output:

  “His celebrity is much bigger than his actual body of work… The fame to output ratio is off.” (35:03 – A, quoting ChatGPT)

• Both agree Pete’s persona could make for a fun show, but question his work ethic compared to Amy Poehler.

c. Bravo’s Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip: Nene Leakes Returns

38:28–43:27

• Nene Leakes returns to Bravo for a 20-year Housewives road trip special—surprising given her prior lawsuit vs. Bravo:

  “She was suing Bravo for kind of like serious allegations, including Racism. And so I'm shocked that she would go back.” (39:25 – A)

• Mixed feelings about the idea—Jackie likes the RV/“slumming it” angle:

  “I do like when they slum it… Something about an RV… makes amazing television.” (41:06 – A)

• Both skeptical it will be more than feel-good nostalgia.

d. Justin & Hailey Bieber vs. Psychologist TikToker

46:06–50:17

• The Biebers send a cease-and-desist to psychologist Julia Bully for claiming their marriage is abusive/drug-fueled on TikTok.
• Claudia strongly defends the Biebers and criticizes armchair diagnosis or professional overreach:

  “People on the Internet are far too comfortable being mentally ill and like, actually just saying things… you can't just say someone is a drug addict and abusive…” (47:18 – A)

• Both agree professionals making viral “diagnosis” content is a bad look:

  “If you're a doctor, you're never my doctor. Sorry. You're just not.” (49:47 – A)

e. Kiefer Sutherland Arrested for Assaulting Ride-share Driver

50:28–52:44

• Latest scandal: Kiefer Sutherland arrested for allegedly assaulting a rideshare driver—Jackie reacts with disbelief:

  “Here I am, always telling celebrities not to drink and drive. Take an Uber, and then this one takes an Uber and beats up his driver. Like, seriously, celebrities are sick.” (51:09 – A)

• Both incredulous at celebrity entitlement, agree, “don’t beat up your Uber drivers” is a good basic life lesson.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Driving Philosophy:
  “It’s human nature to avoid destruction. So if I'm just, like, swerving into your lane, I have great faith in my fellow man that they will gtfo.” (03:05 – A)
• On Martha Stewart:
  “Let me tell you, that bitch is so monotone... She's not, like, warm and fuzzy.” (06:06 – A)
• On Influencer Pet Economics:
  “I was paying for Barkbox, like, and I couldn't figure out how to stop paying for Barkbox… That's how they get you.” (08:01 – A)
• Soul Dogs:
  “RIP Theo, RIP King. Like, I know when I die, like, Theo will be greeting me at the gates of heaven.” (13:51 – A)
• Award Show Skepticism:
  “I feel like any award shows that, like, don’t nominate Joe Rogan… can’t really… be taken seriously.” (26:44 – B)
• On Pete Davidson’s Fame:
  “…His public profile is overwhelmingly driven by high profile relationships rather than standout comedy, acting or writing. The fame to output ratio is off.” (35:03 – A, quoting ChatGPT)
• On Social Media Professionals:
  “If you're a doctor, you're never my doctor. Sorry. You're just not. Yeah, same like a therapist.” (49:47 – A)
• Reacting to Kiefer Sutherland:
  “Here I am, always telling celebrities not to drink and drive. Take an Uber, and then this one takes an Uber and beats up his driver. Like, seriously, celebrities are sick.” (51:09 – A)

Important Timestamps

• 00:30 — Florida weather and end of Jackie’s trip
• 01:17 — Jackie’s pole-hitting driving mishap & driving philosophies
• 03:35 — TV recap: “Tell Me Lies,” Martha Stewart, cooking show snark
• 07:33 — Claudia’s dog Bruno lands a brand deal; influencer pet economics
• 09:06 — Evolution from “dog aunt” to parent; “soul dog” riffing
• 13:51 — RIP Theo – reflections on favorite pets
• 14:43 — Corded headphones gym mishap
• 19:19 — iHeartRadio Podcast Awards: reactions, snub talk
• 31:07 — Pete Davidson Netflix podcast, union-busting commentary
• 35:03 — Pete Davidson “overrated” analysis via ChatGPT
• 39:25 — Nene Leakes Bravo return & Housewives nostalgia
• 46:06 — Biebers’ legal action vs. psychologist TikToker
• 51:09 — Kiefer Sutherland assault story
• 53:00 — Favorite story segment wrap up

Closing Thoughts

After running through the stories, Jackie and Claudia reflect on which discussion they enjoyed the most (Jackie: Bieber story, Claudia: Podcast Awards, Pete Davidson). The episode ends with mutual affirmations of a “job well done,” excitement for upcoming TV, and classic Toast cheer.

This summary captures the major story arcs, humor, and commentary style of The Toast, guiding new listeners to the episode’s main talking points and why the Oshry sisters’ relatable, irreverent style keeps their audiences engaged.