Amigas Cheetahs: Tuesday, April 21st, 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – “Amigas Cheetahs” (Tuesday, April 21, 2026)

Overview

In this lively Tuesday edition of The Toast, sisters Jackie and Claudia Oshry (“Jackie & Claude”) deliver their signature blend of pop culture commentary, personal anecdotes, and the “Fast Five” stories you need to know. The episode balances lighthearted banter about personal life and viral trends with in-depth discussion of major entertainment industry news, a closer look at workplace drama involving top podcaster Alex Cooper, and their signature “Dear Toasters” advice segment. The hosts maintain their witty, candid conversational style throughout, mixing sharp takes with playful asides.

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Main Discussion Themes

• Personal Catch-up & Banter
• Mahjong, Knicks, and Family Traditions
• The Alex Cooper/Call Her Daddy/Unwell Toxic Workplace Exposé
• Pop Culture & Reality TV Updates
• Devil Wears Prada Sequel Premiere
• Celebrity News and Reactions
• Dear Toasters: Advice Segment

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Transformation Tuesday, Family Catch-Up & Mahjong Mania

[00:22 – 07:02]

• Jackie gets a dramatic haircut, Claudia reminisces about clearing out years of old Toast Patreon footage (“trip down memory lane”).
• Conversation about mahjong: canceled plans due to lack of players, and the special, community aspect of the traditional four-player game.
• Playful musings on habits (Ben watching the Knicks and being their “curse”) and how life moments are intertwined with sports memories, especially remembering her daughter Ruby’s early days and the NBA playoffs:
  “Whenever I think of the Knicks, Ruby was born in the middle of playoffs … I actually love the Knicks now.” – B, [03:20]
• The importance of traditions like their "Chicken Rocks" family recipe, and the joy/surprise in seeing it spread outside the family.

2. Pop Culture Industry Drama: Alex Cooper Exposé

[07:04 – 33:58]

• [07:04] Jackie & Claudia react in real time to a Bloomberg article about alleged toxic workplace culture at Alex Cooper’s Unwell.
• Discussion covers the article’s main claims (allegations largely pointed at Cooper’s husband, Matt; high staff turnover; struggles to launch shows outside of Call Her Daddy).
• Claudia notes irony in public reaction, comparing it to the Sophia Franklin fallout. They highlight the double standard of being shamed for involving a partner in business decisions and now see Alex Cooper “handed the keys” to her husband:
  "I just find the irony quite rich ... You literally ruined your best friend's life, and her crime was asking her boyfriend for advice. Meanwhile, you've handed the keys to your kingdom over to your husband." – B, [24:10]
• They ponder Alex’s desire to go beyond podcasting, speculate on her long-term ambitions, and analyze the PR impact:
  “Somebody who’s had a conflict-less career... would only make that video [addressing controversy] and invite that hate.” – B, [07:47]
• Broader industry commentary: women in media, business optics, smoke-and-mirrors companies, and how podcast network ventures are built around founder personalities but may not scale.
• The importance of authenticity in public image compared to private action:
  "It's so incongruous to be, like, one way when she's hosting the show — warm, safe place — and then she's talking to Forbes and she's like 'you gotta be ruthless.'" – A, [25:11]

3. Fast Five Stories: Major Pop Culture Updates

[35:26 – 56:31]

Wes Wilson & Amanda Batula Relationship Update

[35:26]

• Wes on his podcast “Show Me Something” addresses Internet rumors and confirms no cheating occurred, though Amanda has become a target of hate.
  “Her phone number has been leaked and she’s been receiving hateful messages … My actions have hurt people that I care about.” – B paraphrasing Wes, [36:23]
• Hosts discuss fandom extremes and question the editing/production of this season of Summer House.

Devil Wears Prada 2 Premiere

[39:47]

• Red carpet recap: high-profile, fashion-forward event with Anne Hathaway “best dressed”, major cameos, and Lady Gaga on soundtrack.
• Anticipation mixed with anxiety about whether the sequel can live up to the original:
  “If they f*** it up, I'll be so pissed. The movie … is a core part of people our age’s childhood.” – B, [41:50]

Dylan Sprouse & Barbara Palvin Home Invasion

[43:16]

• Details on Dylan subduing a burglar; the couple’s humor and low-key handling of the trauma praised.
• Discussion of how rarely burglars are caught, potential crime rings, and the couple’s strong bond:
  “This is so hot. Like, this is so hot. … A man defending his home, his wife is inside with his own body and physical self — it's so sickeningly hot.” – B, [43:44-44:01]

Nara Smith Cookbook Announcement

[53:18]

• Viral home cook Nara Smith to release “Homemade.” Hosts debate whether her high-fashion, stylized approach to cooking will translate to a relatable, practical cookbook, or just a coffee-table aesthetic.
• They express curiosity about her actual skills and the personal connection lacking in her content:
  “There’s just something, like, inherently cold and distant about her. … a cookbook is so warm, inviting friends, family, dinner party.” – B, [54:56]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

Notable Quotes

• “If you ate it up, then shut the fuck up now. That pisses me off.” – A on changing public sentiment towards Alex Cooper, [08:36]
• “Happy for Ben Lish… So yeah, Ben Lish went out. I fell asleep and did nothing, watch nothing, read nothing.” – B, [06:53]
• “Some women have no idea and they get so blindsided... oh really? Your husband was evil the whole time.” – B on relationship dynamics, [62:39]
• On family food traditions: “To hear somebody else be like, I made chicken rocks, I’m like, excuse me, that's from our childhood.” – B, [11:34]
• “Why start a company with all the stress when you could just be the Call Her Daddy girl and interview anyone you want?” – Paraphrased from B, [28:14]
• “It’s so incongruous to be, like, one way when she’s hosting the show — warm, safe place — and then she’s talking to Forbes and she’s like, ‘you gotta be ruthless.’” – A, [25:11]

Fun & Lighthearted Moments

• Playful roasting of each other’s culinary efforts and family food legacies (“Chicken rocks is a stir fry. Yeah, chicken rocks.” – [10:47])
• Spirited back-and-forth about streaming platforms, aging podcast platforms (“We should be on NPR … Like, we should be everywhere. … It's a human right to listen to toast.” – B, [39:27], continuing [71:57—72:18])

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Advice Segment: Dear Toasters

[58:18 – 71:29]

1. Texting Husband’s Friend About a Party Leads to Shocking Discovery

   • Listener finds texts on husband’s phone demeaning her postpartum body. Hosts call out the husband’s behavior as “evil” and emphasize the importance of recognizing red flags rather than making any drastic moves while postpartum.
     • "I have to tell you, girl, I hate your husband. … Knowledge is truly power." – B, [60:59-62:39]

2. Comatose Brother & Overly Attached Nurse

   • A nurse (not assigned to the patient) keeps visiting the comatose brother. Hosts emphatically declare the nurse’s behavior unacceptable, recommend getting hospital authorities involved, and label it “documentary fodder” and “very dangerous” ([64:31-66:20]).

3. New Boyfriend's Old Article About Porn Addiction

   • A new romantic interest once spoke out about overcoming porn addiction in a military foundation interview. Claudia and Jackie support the listener, note the widespread nature of the issue, and view the boyfriend’s honesty and growth as positives, urging against “ick culture”:
     • “A lot of modern adult males are addicted to porn and they don’t even know it. So someone who can acknowledge that … kind of speaks to his character.” – B, [68:14-68:55]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:22] Personal catch-up: haircuts, mahjong, and Knicks talk
• [07:04] Alex Cooper toxic workplace article deep-dive
• [24:10] Talk on podcast industry double standards and the Call Her Daddy fallout
• [35:26] Fast Five Stories Begin: Wes Wilson & Amanda Batula update
• [39:47] Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere and red carpet
• [43:16] Dylan Sprouse & Barbara Palvin home invasion
• [53:18] Nara Smith Cookbook
• [58:18] Dear Toasters Advice Segment
• [71:57] Meta-podcast musings/Outro banter

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Final Thoughts & Tone

The episode blends playful sisterly banter with unfiltered, sometimes biting, but always authentic pop culture criticism and real-life advice. Jackie and Claudia’s dynamic keeps the pace lively, oscillating between teasing, genuine care, industry insight, and animated tangents. For listeners who missed this episode, it offers both the “must-know” headlines of the day and a uniquely candid look into the personal, professional, and sometimes absurd side of modern media and womanhood.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies.

[B]

It's the Toast.

[A]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

[B]

It's your favorite show.

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The best five things you need to know.

[B]

We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[A]

They sound amazing.

[B]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. It's giving, you know, today's Giving Transformation Tuesday.

[A]

Cuz you got a haircut. Yeah.

[B]

I'm sure you guys could tell it's extremely dramatic transformation over here. I got a trim and I'm feeling like myself again.

[A]

You look like yourself again.

[B]

Thank you. Were you shocked when. When I opened the camera this morning?

[A]

I was. I said, wow, that's a transformation change.

[B]

Yeah, it's giving. That girl going through a breakup. She's so crazy with her trim.

[A]

Is there something you want to tell us?

[B]

Yeah. I did something crazy last night.

[A]

What'd you do? I did something cute last night. I did something cute last night because I cleared out my computer because I was running low on storage. And they took me to this wonderful place in my computer where they show me my biggest files and they only reserve that for. For the toast for the times when it's dire, I guess.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I got to see my biggest files on my computer. Like lots of videos and stuff and like it was so much like old Patreon footage. Like stuff from like that mukbang when I was pregnant with Charlie. A lot of footage from when I redecorated my guest room and like so many different like eras of us just like popping on my screen. So many par g eras. Toast. A versary documentary. It was really cute to go in and delete everything. Well, because it's all on Patreon.

[B]

Well, it exists at patreon.com/the toast. So make sure to subscribe to support your favorite podcast.

[A]

It was very cute. Trip down memory lane. That was very unexpected. Like I was just trying to do some admin all of a sudden that they took me through the years.

[B]

Well, my mahjong game got canceled because like when you have literally three friends and one of them drops out, like you're just sort of up shit's creek without a paddle.

[A]

I think it's time for Siamese mahjong.

[B]

I know. Me and Ben is like becoming a real addict too. And we like, we get in bed, we're like, we wish we could play mahjong and if we just learned how to play two player mahjong. It's just the thing about mahjong, why it's so great. It's like it's the community aspect of it. Like. And yeah, I could sit at my kitchen table with my husband, but I do that every night. Like, I don't need to do that.

[A]

I also, someone just. I was reading my dm someone DM me where, like, you have to learn how to play two player Mahjong and so much fun and you can play whenever. But I also think it would kind of ruin four person Mahjong because all of a sudden it's very slow.

[B]

Yeah. And also I think that the magic of mahjong is that, like, it's hard to get a game together. So when you do, it's like, everybody's so excited to be there. So, yeah, I didn't get to play and Ben went to the Nick game. So I actually was so bored, I just fell asleep. And actually in the middle of the day, I just fell asleep once Ben left. And I don't want to put, like any bad vibes out there, but I feel like Ben might be a curse to the Knicks. The first game he did not go to, they won. The second game he went to, they lost. He's 0 for 2.

[A]

I have experience as well.

[B]

And if it keeps going that way, I'm gonna need Jalen Brunson to step in and say, ben, whoa, whoa, whoa. You could watch her outside, but don't

[A]

you want them to lose, like, in your heart of hearts? Because then he'll, like, stay home and not be into the game anymore.

[B]

Maybe. I maybe had a place in my life. Like, I was like that genuinely that evil. But now, like, Ben loves the Knicks so much. And honestly, now I'm very much healed because whenever I think of the Knicks, like, Ruby was born in the middle of the playoffs. So we were watching in the hospital for like, the two weeks that we got home, we stayed up every night with, like, Ruby sleeping on my boob. Like, I think so fondly of it. Like, I can't believe that it's a playoffs again. That means my baby's almost won. Like, I actually love the Knicks now. I have he. I never didn't like the Knicks. I just hated that, like, Ben, you know, left. But now I, like, really love it. I actually like when Ben was at the gate game. Like, I watched because, like, I care. I care. Yeah, I can learn. I can learn.

[A]

That's really sweet. And then also, like, Ruby's gonna be a little Nick.

[B]

Okay, like, seriously stop.

[A]

I know he's gonna be a little mixed fan.

[B]

He has like a Jalen Brunson jersey.

[A]

He's The Brunson boy.

[B]

And let me tell you, I was watching an interview. Jalen Brunson went on. Caleb, Jalen can't up, like, no, but

[A]

that's your boy's idol right there.

[B]

My boys. He is literally, like, the role model for all young men of New York City. I watched.

[A]

He did Caleb Presley.

[B]

Yeah. Where they, like, you know, do that funny sketch show. I don't know what the it's called. Yeah. And they had him say, like, you're literally the king of New York. You could probably get a rest reservation at any restaurant in the entire city at the drop of a dime. So they call. I actually never even heard of this place. Like, the best, most ever elite steakhouse. Call as yourself, say, hey, it's Jalen Brunson. I want a table. Like, Kern Steakhouse or something. I had never even heard of it. They should have called the Polar Bar. Like, yeah, Kern. They should have called the Polar Bar, because that really would have been impressive.

[A]

Called Hillstone.

[B]

Literally, that's. So he calls up reservation. Caleb has, like, a script for him where he's like, you know who the I am? But he, like, wouldn't do it. He was being so sweet. And they gave him the reservation. Like, it was really inconvenient. You could tell the guy on the phone was like, in hell.

[A]

Like, actually, like, anybody can call up then and say.

[B]

It's especially AI. You could say like, hi, I'm Jalen Brunson. The guy believed. And at first he was like, sorry, we're really busy. The Rangers are playing at the Garden tonight. And Jalen was like, yeah, it's Jalen Brunson. And they gave him a table for 7:30. But he was like, no, it needs to be six. Which I guess is like, right before the Ranger game needs to be six. And the script was. Was, like, making him say, like, bitch, you better get me a table. And he wouldn't say any of it. He was being really sweet and. And then he handed the phone to, like, that guy who sits in the corner eating ice cream who, like, was his, quote, manager to, like, confirm the reservation. So, yeah, I guess it could have been AI.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like that just set up all restaurants.

[B]

A bad precedent.

[A]

Yeah. Like, not to ruin the fun, but.

[B]

Yeah, right. Of your sketch.

[A]

Yeah. So a lot of pressure for Jalen Brunson to be a great role model for Ruber.

[B]

I think he is kind of, like,

[A]

inherited.

[B]

No, he's, like, meeting the expectations that have been set for him by all young men of the New York Tri State area. Like, good. It's so funny. Everybody wears their Knicks merch now. Like, we went to the park on Saturday, which was the first game, and Ben wore his hat. Everyone is wearing a hat, a jacket. Like people in New York, like, they just live for the Knicks. And it's really sad because, like, the Knicks have never really been aside for like that one team in like 92 that they always talk about. They've never been like an insanely amazing team, but in the last few years they've been a really, really good team. So it's just like exciting for people here to have something, you know.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's really great. Happy for Ben Lish.

[B]

So, yeah, Ben Lish went out. I fell asleep and did nothing, watch nothing, read nothing.

[A]

There was nothing on last night. We had the night off.

[B]

Except there was an article to read.

[A]

Oh yeah, that's a story today.

[B]

Big, big toxic workplace takedown of one Ms. Alexandra Cooper kind of come in

[A]

and they don't come in and you know, crazy. I'm really, I'm having sort of a change of heart in the sense that I thought her video was such a slay, but.

[B]

But now it's opened up.

[A]

It's opened up this can of worms. I didn't know she had all this stuff that she was sitting on. So. Yeah, you only do that if you're sort of very innocent. Not if you have things in which people can come at you for.

[B]

I think also that's just like the position that somebody takes when they've had a relatively like conflict less career. Yeah, she sort of sailed on by.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Like you and I. I would never make a video like that. Opening myself up. Somebody would put together like a 10 part series of everything I've ever said that they didn't like. Like there's. I have so much out there for people to like, criticize. I would just never do that. And so this is just coming from a person who's like, clearly never had a real, you know, scandal, even though she did have the college anything. But she came out totally on top. She doesn't know what it's like to be like in that vulnerable position. So only like a crazy person would make that video and invite that hate. Especially going up against such a beloved figure.

[A]

Yeah, I guess I just didn't realize that like she had all of these things and that sentiment was starting to change for her and she shouldn't have like opened the floodgates.

[B]

Yeah. Because now people are going back and like hating on things that she did and. But like, you ate it up at the time, like the gluck luck, you know, like, you loved that.

[A]

If you.

[B]

Not you specifically, then I love.

[A]

No, I'm not.

[B]

Yeah, I know how much you love the gluck luck.

[A]

If you ate it up, then shut the fuck up now.

[B]

Yeah, that pisses me off.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's like everything she's done has always had, like, a lot of visibility, you know.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

From the moment they launched Call Her Daddy, like, they had a lot of listeners and, like, it just sort of snowballed from there. So it's not like she ever did anything of these things, like, quietly and you missed it. Like, you correct. She did it and you saw it

[B]

and you loved it.

[A]

Yeah, everybody loves it.

[B]

Did you just see that?

[A]

I did. My studio's breaking down.

[B]

Okay. No, I just, like, was being really aggressive with the mic stand. Sorry.

[A]

So since we're getting into the stories, maybe we should get into the stories.

[B]

Yeah. Let me just think, like, about anything else I want to share.

[A]

Like, have homework last night.

[B]

Oh, we have deer toasters today.

[A]

Just stir fry. A delicious stir fry. But every time I make stir fry, I'm like, I never want to make this meal again. It takes so messy. All the grease, my floors were slippery. Like, the kids are slipping and sliding and it was like really back breaking.

[B]

And was it more of like an Asian stir fry or like a Mexican stir fry?

[A]

Like, what was I would say, because it was soy sauce and sesame oil

[B]

and so, like, love a chicken stir fry.

[A]

I just want to say, like, it came out amazingly. Thank God. Because if it didn't, I would have been really depressed because I slaved over that meal last night and I didn't. I. And what. What's funny is I thought I was going to cook it Sunday night. So I. I sliced the chicken, marinated it, sliced peppers and onions and put it in the fridge to cook Sunday night. And Sunday night I was just like, I don't want to cook. So it was all prepped and ready. And last night all I had to do was cook it. All I had to do was even cook it last night. But because I was making so much chicken, it just took. And I do everything in small batches because, you know, they say that is funny. They say if you put too much in the pan at once, it will steam the chicken instead of browning the chicken. I'm sure you've seen that on Ina.

[B]

I actually haven't.

[A]

Oh, you missed that one. So I was just. I was really putting in the work.

[B]

I love stir fry. I love like any sort of like chicken with peppers and onions. Like a fajita too. I love all different types of like global culinary takes on the traditional stir fry.

[A]

Yeah, it's a good meal.

[B]

Chicken rocks.

[A]

But just don't make it yourself, honestly.

[B]

Oh, don't worry, I never do.

[A]

It's not worth it.

[B]

Chicken rocks is a stir fry.

[A]

Yeah, it was chicken rocks. That's really what it was.

[B]

Yeah, Chicken rocks.

[A]

Let's get into the fast five stories that you do need to know.

[B]

Wait, sorry. I have to tell you something so funny. I forgot to tell you this. Me and Ben were like last week, it was so nice outside and we were eating dinner outside and we ran into someone we know.

[A]

Nice outside.

[B]

Correct. We ran into someone we know. You know her too, Amanda. She was in your grade in high school.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She like goes our show now. And she was like, oh my God, so good to see you guys. Hello. So funny. I actually just made chicken rocks, like for my family. And she said it to Ben, cuz Ben is like co opted chicken rocks, which is our family recipe. We've been eating it since we're like in middle school. And so this girl was like, chicken rocks. Chicken rocks.

[A]

Ben.

[B]

Ben. I'm like, Ben. It's literally a family ostre family recipe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To hear somebody else be like, I made chicken rocks. I'm like, excuse me, that's from our childhood.

[A]

But like, if not for Ben, chicken arcs rocks would be a lost starting your household.

[B]

Yeah. No, and he did globalize and like popularize the chicken rock.

[A]

Deserving it.

[B]

He also kind of appropriated it.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

Speaking of appropriation, are you seeing the drama with the Hallmark movie?

[A]

I am, but like, Hallmark made a

[B]

movie about mahjong and they like didn't put one singular Asian person in it, which is really bad. Like, and then they also did like a bunch of collabs with like mahjong companies. Like, not one of them owned by an Asian person. Like, it's giving Asian erasure. And while American mahjong has largely been co opted and like, become like an Americanized version of it. Like, to not pay homage. Not cool.

[A]

Yeah, that there's not homage, I guess.

[B]

And like, why isn't there one Asian character? Like, she could be the teacher. Like she could be anything.

[A]

Right. But wouldn't that also be like offensive stereotype?

[B]

Yeah, maybe. I don't know.

[A]

Then it should be like, the leads are Asians, but other. But maybe the story is about how these randoms got into my you know what I mean?

[B]

Like, yeah, I just think they could have thrown something in there.

[A]

I don't know. I think they're damned if they do and damned. I don't know really how they got out of this spot. They should have just scrapped the movie. But then it's like, okay, so we can't play mahjong anymore.

[B]

Right now we're silencing mahjong, so we

[A]

can't have movies about mahjong. I don't like. And I'm not saying that I don't even know anything. I'm just saying, like, I don't. I don't know. Drama, drums, fast five stories that you to do need to know.

[B]

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Our first story as we were discussing Bloomberg dropped an article yesterday. Inside Alex Cooper'. Well, tears screaming and employees looking for the exit. So they wrote an article about toxic workplace allegations over at Unwell. Different things are being thrown out there. One that, like, her husband yells at everybody.

[B]

Well, I think actually the article overall wasn't even so bad for Alex. It was, I mean, it was bad because I guess she's allowed it to get to this place, but all the allegations of like, toxicity were coming for her husband.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which, like, I guess what they're saying is that Unwell hasn't actually produced anything successful outside of Call her daddy. And so that's why it's been hard for the company. They have a lot of, like, high level executives who have left because, like, the company can't kind of put one foot in front of the other. I don't think they know exactly who they are or what they're doing because they started out as a podcast network and they have no successful podcasts outside of Call Her Daddy. So Call Her Daddy. Keeps Alex so busy that she's really never at Unwell. She doesn't really work there. Matt does.

[A]

Matt runs a day to day and

[B]

they say he's just the woe. He yells at everyone, threatens people. You never work in this town again

[A]

in the industry for many years. Leave set crying. He yelled on the Winter Game set. There's.

[B]

Oh, and did you see that part in the article that said that Unwell Winter Games, a contestant dropped out last minute and so seen a clip of it already and they asked a production member to like, be the new contestant.

[A]

Yeah, I saw a clip of it last week. It looks actually kind of cute. Someone's flight got like, like, delayed or canceled and they couldn't make it. So they chose this young guy from production to, like, being part of the cast. So it's just, like, funny.

[B]

Oh, that's. It's funny how, like, perception is. Because on the show, I guess it looked cutesy, but on the article they were saying and they sprung it on him to engage in this challenge.

[A]

He, like, looks like a guy who would work at barstool. And it was like, funny how when you look at the Unwell Winner Games cast, it's like a guy who works for Unwell. It's. It's actually that is funny. I didn't find that to be weird at all. But I also just realized that there was Bachelor Winner Games because I saw an old clip on my Instagram Bachelor Winter Games from, like, Ashley. I now she's getting like, all this stuff, right?

[B]

Servicing.

[A]

And I was like, wait, Unwell Winter Games now?

[B]

I just want to say about this article, I feel so split because the article itself, I feel, is a big nothing burger. Except for Alex, like, her husband's obviously just like an ass is what they're saying.

[A]

And

[B]

I would think that it's like, blown out. I feel like they write stuff about this like that to be, like, sensational and, like, just get in on, like, the drama and take advantage of what's going on. However, the interesting part here, and I know everyone's like, probably tired of me here hearing me talk about it, but I see so much of this through the lens of Sophia Franklin. And I feel good at the time that, like, I think a lot of people now look back on the Sophia Franklin thing. You're like, well, yeah, like, that was bad. But at the time, like, Alex Cooper was mother, father. Like, it Was everything. She did the video, see you Wednesday. Like, it was all iconic to everyone. And I remember, like, we got a lot of hate for our takes on call her daddy. People really didn't agree with us. We were very middle of the road and just like, wait, I kind of feel Sophia, like they should be making more money and then $60 million, you know, the rest is history. But a lot of the, the rhetoric around Sophia was that like, well, yeah, maybe they should have been getting more money, but she allowed her boyfriend to get involved. That was her big crime that she was married to. Oh, sorry. She was dating a guy who we now know was like a C suite executive at HBO for many years, went to Harvard Business School, had an mba, is like an actually smart person. And these are two girls who worked in the industry for five minutes and wanted to renegotiate a huge contract.

[A]

Like, had this huge thing on their hands and like, didn't know what to do with it, know how to steer it. And they're up against like this huge media company and they know they're being advantage of, but they don't know what to do.

[B]

And the only sort of like thing they had in their arsenal was this guy who was really smart, is really smart, and tried to help them. Oh, I'm sure he was glad he did that. So even people who were like, yeah, they should have gotten more money. Sophia's biggest crime was always, like, letting a man get involved. Even though, like, sorry, the man was probably smarter than them both and could have helped at the time. Like, I think that's fine to say. So I just think it's like a little rich that not only did she get married, start working with her husband, they merged. Like her everything she built in call her daddy is a part of a holding company called trending that she started with her man. He had some successful, like ventures. They've mushed them all together to start this unwell trending company.

[A]

And he's the one, the keys to her success, to her husband. He runs.

[B]

Yeah. Which by the way, I have no problem with. I just want to say I'm not one of these, like, man hating people. I work with my husband. Like, I feel like that's fine.

[A]

But these things, toxic workplace, letting your man get involved, letting him be this run the show that you built would be fine. From anyone other than her who has preached all of this stuff all of these years. Like, you know, she's meant to. Like, she rails on everyone and has guests come on who talk about like toxicity and narcissism and yelling and this and that. And then, like, you're perpetuating it like you're supposed to be perfect because that's what you demand of everyone else. No.

[B]

And, like, you literally ruined your best friend's life. And I guess her crime was asking her boyfriend for advice. Meanwhile, yeah, you've handed the keys to your kingdom over to your husband, which, if anyone else were to do, like, I would have no issue with. But I do find the irony quite rich.

[A]

But she has, like, people who come on and talk about, like, being on reality TV and their producers were very toxic and, and that's like, the right place that, like, she's creative right now. And, like, you're not allowed to do that because, like, you say one thing and do another thing. And I also feel like there's, like, two sides to the way that she runs her business. There's like the, you know, when she's doing her show and she's like, girls, girl. And, you know, save space, safe space, Miley happy. Like, and then she, like, does these articles where she's just like, so, like, I don't care if people like it, you know, and it's like they're so different, you know? And I feel like now it's like the image, it's just not adding up. And I, I, I feel like we've chalked it up to her changing lanes a lot of times, you know, like, oh, she's going to try and be

[B]

the go from girl boss to more like Chris Harrison.

[A]

Yeah. But it's also just, it just is so incongruous to be, like, one way when she's hosting the show where it's like this warm, safe place and everybody's feelings matter. And then she's talking to Forbes and she's like, you've gotta be ruthless.

[B]

And then she goes to Utah and hangs out with Dakota Mortensen.

[A]

Well, that's the other thing that of course, yeah.

[B]

No, but I'm sorry, I couldn't. I read the article and all I thought about was Sophia, because the article is a sort of an indictment on her husband. It doesn't say that Alex herself does anything wrong. She's sort of absent from the company because the one thing the company has is call her daddy. And that keeps her very busy. So she's sort of offloaded these 100 employees, 20 of which have left in the last year, which is like a significant percentage of the workforce. She's left it all to her husband and he's sort of destroying her reputation.

[A]

Yeah, when like this is crazy. And also the sorts of things that she talks about all the time.

[B]

And as far as what I've heard from actually a couple of people is that there's a big article coming about Unwell from Variety. They've been working for a while. This is not new. I guess the timing is just crazy. Crazy. Variety's been working on an article of their own in this same vein. It didn't really seem that like this Bloomberg article though had any like first hand accounts. They didn't have any anonymous sources even. It was just like giving vibes. And I also feel like it was what you just said, like you saw the clip of the production person and you thought it was cute. So they just sort of told it from a different angle.

[A]

They just put all the things that have happened in the last five years in one article. Which when you look at it all together. Yeah, like the three serious shows that launch that didn't even last year.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Just like all of this, you know, I guess flops.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But putting them together when I feel like she's done a really good job and, and as you should do in business of like obfuscating that thing moving forward, making the brand seem like amazing. And it's like actually it's kind of

[B]

smoking mirrors,

[A]

but the smoke and mirrors.

[B]

But that's what everyone does, by the way. Yeah, they make these like fake companies that are fake and fake and fake until they actually aren't and then they end up doing quite well. But that's so Internet. Everybody is like always making their companies, their brands, everything seem so legitimate when it's like a podcast with three listeners,

[A]

you know, And I think the difference for her is like because she's gotten so much money from her podcast deals, she can put so much money into one. Well, so the smoke and mirrors are very exciting. Expensive smoke and expensive mirrors and like there is a cup. They bought themselves a company there. You know, other people, they don't have that capital to just keep funneling it into the business. But like between $60 million from Spotify and like 100ish from serious, like that's a lot of money to like, you know, build a company and then get the things that make it successful.

[B]

And I do wonder why that was her angle. Like, I think she is kind of obsessed with being like girl boss. Because why isn't like hosting a very, very, very successful podcast, why isn't that enough? Like, why do you start a whole company with products and merch and shows? Like, why don't you just be the call her daddy girl. Like, that's huge.

[A]

I don't know. I. That part I can't relate to.

[B]

I feel like that was, like, more her husband, like, wanting to be a part of it being. And we could start a company.

[A]

Yeah. Like, because the thing is, the audience,

[B]

the 60 mil, the 100 mil, that's all funneling this company. Like, why, that could have just been yours. Like, and you could have bought more houses and went on vacation on that

[A]

forever, and you would get the hundred. The serious deal is like three. How many years? And then there'll be another deal.

[B]

The Sirius XM deal is outsized, and that's most likely not what she's taking home because it's all these promises of the shows. Remember, she launched three radio shows and then four more podcasts, so she owes Sirius XM X amount of downloads per month that she's just not hitting. Her show was very successful, but it was blown up because of all these shows she was going to produce for them. Half of them have been canceled. The other half are just, like, getting by on. On fumes.

[A]

Yeah. There's not like, a big hit there, but you'll still make a lot of money, of course.

[B]

Like, why, if that was me, like, I would just. Like, I would just be that, like, I get to interview everyone. Anyone I've ever wanted to interview, like, can come on my show and make you a ton of money. Like, who wants all this stuff?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know if that's driven, like, by her maybe also wanting to eventually exit podcasting. Yeah, some people don't want to podcast forever. They want to. Like. Like, you know, if you podcast forever, like, that's every week you have to work. It's not mailbox money.

[B]

Like, Right.

[A]

Maybe you want to set something up so that you can sort of become a behind the scenes person and not have to work so hard. I do. Right. Like, maybe that's what she wants is not to podcast forever. That's not everyone's dream.

[B]

Oh, my God. Couldn't be me.

[A]

I know, I know, but people are different.

[B]

No, you're right. You're right. Sort of like, retire into, like, an

[A]

investor and be, like, a CEO, you know, behind the scenes, like, still do your show or whatever. Like, but Bill Simmons, like, he has plenty of shows, right? He's gone. He could be gone. I don't know if he still does his show.

[B]

No, I think he does his show.

[A]

That's the point.

[B]

Right. It's not. It does not all that's the Thing

[A]

the ringer Unwell, beyond him.

[B]

The ringer started with Bill Simmons and then eventually became this big thing. Call Her Daddy was supposed to turn into this big thing where like, Call Her Daddy is one in a million of the successful things that the show does. But it didn't happen that way. And so now it's just. I bet that Unwell is just sort of this, like, thorn in her side.

[A]

No, I don't even. It's not just her side, it's her whole body.

[B]

Well, of course, you know, and these, like, employees that just imagine it's like, you're being mean to me. Like, who wants that?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I just. I don't know. It's interesting that it's just all turning. It's also. It's also weird to me.

[B]

Fickle, you know, so it's happening so quickly and I do think by the time it sort of settles for her, Sophia will be releasing her book. Like, I just think Alex will be.

[A]

Shows coming out.

[B]

Yeah, it's gonna be a bad year, actually. Oh, I feel bad.

[A]

I just. I don't know. I don't know if any of this will actually, like, touch her, you know?

[B]

Right. And what's today? Tuesday. So, like, is the show still coming out? Because, like, the show's not about her, so. And it's all pre recorded, like weeks in advance. Yeah, but if I'm a guest, I'm not dying to be on the the show right now.

[A]

Yeah, but she has. Well, that's the thing. It's like, I want to say she has a lot of friendships just because, like, she wants it. She was friends with Margot Robbie and Miley called her up. But, like, where are her influencer friends? Like, she's had, like, friends throughout, not friends throughout the years, but people who have come on the show. I don't want to, like, start naming them, but, like, I know.

[B]

So a valid. Sorry. Not about a common criticism of her. It's just that I think that people say, like, speaks to her character is that she has, like, no friends in the industry. And the ones that like, she did connect with, I'll say their names. Like, right, sure.

[A]

She was friendly with Morgan Stewart, Jackie Schimmel.

[B]

Jackie Schimmel. Like la. Like, very LA podcast.

[A]

There was a time where she was having a lot. Hannah Burner and Paige were on her show.

[B]

I don't think Hannah Burner and Paige were ever her friends. Honestly.

[A]

Hannah Burner was on before, like, when she was still in New York. Hannah Burner went on a couple times that even when she moved, like, so you can be less.

[B]

By the way. I feel like it's common knowledge. I feel like Paige hates. And I'm just saying this based off of Internet. This is not anything that I do based off of vibes. I feel like it's like everybody agrees, like, Paige hates Alex Cooper because one time she, like, interviewed them both and was asking questions about Summer House being like, well, Hannah, like, how do you not, like, hate Paige for staying at Summer House and staying friends with the people who, like, ruined your life? And Paige was like, excuse me. So she was never on Call Her Daddy Again. Hannah has been on to, like, promote her various projects, but I don't feel like they were ever, like, super friendly. Especially because then Alex moved to la. Like, that can be explained away, like her LA friends. What happened?

[A]

I don't know. And so that's another one where it's like, very incongruous with the person she is on her show that's like, you know, you would never think this person and alienates so many people because she's meant to be like, you, the girls, girl, big sister, father. Yeah. It's like, can't keep a friend.

[B]

I also think that a. A part of it that needs to be said is she may not be a girl's girl and she may be, like, isolating. But I do think on the other side of it, like, I think there are a lot of people in the industry, especially, like, women in the industry, who are, like, insanely jealous of her.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And, like, would never be her friend for that.

[A]

And those people are, like, not at her level. And so I'm not even talking about them. You know, I'm sure there's always going to be people like that. I'm not talking about them, but like, like the people who have come on her show who are, like, at her level, who have, you know, full lives and don't spend their time, like, being petty and jealous.

[B]

Yeah. Don't they star Donde Estella Samikas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Friends for life.

[A]

Always have each other.

[B]

That's what keeps us bright. Amigas Cheetahs. Yeah.

[A]

I was never at Amigas Cheetah, so I'm not talking to me.

[B]

No. No.

[A]

But, yeah, just all very curious.

[B]

I know. And it's just bizarre how quickly things flipped for her. And I imagine had she known that this dumb video with Alex Earl's not even about Alex Earl anymore.

[A]

No.

[B]

Like, I have. I forgot about Alex Earl. If she had known, I mean, there's no way to know that it would have opened up this.

[A]

Yeah. And I guess, like, for so long, all the criticism of her she's never addressed. It's as if she doesn't see it. And like, that works for her. And I think it's a pretty good strategy, so like, to come down to the sewers and address welcome. Well, now she's in the sewers.

[B]

And so. Yeah. And that's why she shouldn't have gotten

[A]

involved because she was now taking it back. Like, I think ultimately it was a mistake then to do that.

[B]

Yeah, of course. And even so, like, I, I, I don't really understand someone who very meticulously, for years positioned herself. She's not a podcaster, she's not an influencer, businesswoman, mogul, marketer. Like, on another level, I wouldn't compare her. She was Alex Earl's boss, you know, to sort of join, like, come down and they start arguing with girls, like younger than you. And I, I, it's just bizarre. It just felt in congress with the plan she had set for herself, it seemed.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So we'll see. We shall see. Our next story, Wes Wilson is speaking out about Amanda Batula relationship for the first time. So west was on an episode of his show Show Me Something, his podcast alongside Sophie Cunningham, and he discusses the drama a bit. He says that there was no overlap. He said, I know there's a thousand different theories on the Internet right now, but that is one thing for sure. That did not happen. Everyone was sing. He went on to explain that Amanda and he realized things were maybe a little bit serious back in February, adding that she has been taking the brunt of the backlash. He said in the clip that her, her phone number has been leaked and she's been receiving hateful messages. He said, the hardest part, I think with this whole situation is, you know, my actions have hurt people that I care about. He explained that he intends to give some apologies face to face and clear up all the crazy that's been on the Internet at the reunion.

[B]

Like, I love him addressing like the one thing, like, nobody thinks that, like, nobody cares. I don't see anyone talking about the timeline. Like, I don't think anybody believes them to have cheated.

[A]

I never really thought that. But it's a little curious watching the season. There's like, you know, that sprinkle of. And so I'm glad to know. No, but, but yeah, great.

[B]

No, yeah, like, that's the first thing you're addressing. Okay. The episode airs tonight. Right. Andy keeps talking about this episode. He said, again, like, you're gonna have to Watch it like, half your eyes close because it's so cringe.

[A]

Like, oh, my God.

[B]

What? I know. I think I might watch it live with commercials. Like, what is he talking about?

[A]

What is he talking about? The season's not even so tea. Would we find it so cringe if none of this?

[B]

Well, this. And also, I think Andy kind of backwardsly confirmed that this episode has also been edited since Scamanda, so maybe this was something that they could have.

[A]

But it's like, are you editing in the cringe? I'm also going to be like, I want to see both. I want to see the pre West Mandeval edit and the West Mandeval edit.

[B]

Yeah. What is it? I hope it's not Alan Cummings 2.0 talking about the feast.

[A]

Yeah. But as for west, of course, people always go to extremes. Like, you know, the.

[B]

The kill yourself. Like, my God.

[A]

Of the situation. That's, like, not a lot of people feel that way. Most people are in sending her text messages or death. No.

[B]

And Amanda is taking the brunt of the hate, but her crime is worse.

[A]

Yeah, it's true.

[B]

So

[A]

it's just, like, crazy that he has a podcast and he has to, like, go talk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And are there people who then, like, listen to the rest of the podcast? You know what I mean? And, like, are gonna listen to next week's podcast.

[B]

I think there are people who finished out the episode, like, just in case you said something else. I don't know if they're gonna tune in next week.

[A]

And who are those people? Maybe they love Sophie Cunningham.

[B]

Well, it's like a sports podcast before. It's a commandable podcast.

[A]

Yeah. I guess they love sports too, and

[B]

maybe they're keeping up with sports.

[A]

Well, they should be. I'm also, like, a com. Officially off of Keeping up with Sports because, like.

[B]

Yeah, because. Lamar, did you see Chloe?

[A]

I did.

[B]

Lamar.

[A]

She.

[B]

I guess had. I was saying on the podcast, like, he was being really weird and honest about her. His marriage. In the documentary, I guess Chloe had no idea. She sat down out of the goodness of her heart. She said she was not paid, but Lamar was doing this documentary, and they asked her, and she said yes. She had no idea that he was in the other room doing his testimonial, saying it was like a fake marriage and he was just using her for fame. And it was so fun to be so famous. So she went on her podcast being like, seriously, fudge you. I give you my time, my money, my energy. You b. Tch. And you're just over there Talking shit about me. She had no idea what he was saying in the documentary. And I agree. I thought it was weird.

[A]

So I don't want Keeping up with Sports to come out anymore, which means it's coming out tomorrow now, and.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, maybe.

[A]

Like, you know, who needs a podcast? Like, Caitlin and Scott.

[B]

Where is Scott? I haven't seen him in so long.

[A]

I think they should start, like, a podcast with, like, cultural commentary. Fast five hot takes.

[B]

I'm all set. Honestly.

[A]

No, I think it would be.

[B]

Let's leave the fast five to us. Like, every. I feel like people come and go. They try to do pop culture. They tried. Like, the toast is supreme. Let's just leave it alone. Yeah, just leave it. We should be on npr. We shouldn't be on public radio. Like, we should be everywhere. We are. It's a human right to listen to

[A]

toast Caitlyn and Scott.

[B]

I won't.

[A]

Just them. Only them.

[B]

I won't.

[A]

Our next story. Some exciting news regarding what we were discussing yesterday. Devil Wears Prada to premiere red carpet. So I guess the movie is coming out imminently.

[B]

So I guess it's this week, right? I would assume. Yeah. I'm gonna get tickets.

[A]

The world premiere of Devil Wears Prada took place yesterday, and everyone looks seriously pargy.

[B]

It's giving movie. That. That feels like a real movie global event. It's giving og Like, I see them all doing press in, like, press junkets. It's just giving Hollywood glam.

[A]

Yeah. And looked amazing. She's probably my best dress, as she should be, because it's, you know, her movie.

[B]

She is like, a fashion killer. She's. And this is obviously her moment, and it's a movie about fashion, so it was a lot of pressure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The dress was perfect. It looked like the logo of the movie with the horns. Like, it was brilliant. Emily Blunt looked insane. Like, I appreciate everybody showing up and showing out.

[A]

Yeah. Meryl looked great. And also very, like, Miranda. Like, Anna Winstore was there. Lady Gaga was there.

[B]

What's Lady Gaga's involvement? She must be in the movie.

[A]

Has a song on the album with Dochi.

[B]

Oh, I love that.

[A]

Yeah, it already came out. Oh, but she's on the soundtrack, so that's.

[B]

I didn't even think about the soundtrack. Like, did they make it, like, you know, buzzy? Are there other people on it, or

[A]

is it just one song until maybe it comes out on Friday? But I just saw that one song,

[B]

and by the way, they have to start the movie with suddenly. I see. Right. Like, that's so Iconic.

[A]

It is iconic, hopefully.

[B]

And it's like Andy getting dressed and she's not, like, fugly anymore.

[A]

Hopefully it will be in there in some capacity. And then there's going to be so many cameos. So I think also, like, a lot of the people on the carpet probably are in the movie in some way. Lots of models, you know, Whitney Harlow, Barbara Palvin. Barbara Palvin, Heidi Klum.

[B]

Did you see that? Somebody asked Barbara Palvin and Dylan Sprouse about their, you know, that their home was broken into.

[A]

Our next story.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

But Star.

[B]

Oh, anything else? Oh, yeah.

[A]

Anything else from the premiere? Premiere.

[B]

Has anybody said anything about the actual film? Like, is it good? I'm. I'm so nervous, you guys. Like, I'm so hyped up for this. I like the movie. Means I was watching people get, like, interviewed on the red carpet. And just like, no matter who you are, like, the movie is a. A core part of people, our ages, childhood. It's such an important movie. And, like, if they it up, I'll be so pissed.

[A]

Yeah, I guess we'll have to ask people who saw it last night at the premiere.

[B]

Maybe I'll ask Hannah Burner.

[A]

Was she at the premiere?

[B]

Yeah, because I think Paige is in the movie. And so they were, like, showing up for Paige and Hannah looked great. And maybe I'll ask, like, it. She always does.

[A]

She always does. Thank you.

[B]

And also, do you feel like, like, Paige was wearing the same dress as

[A]

very similar to Anne Hathaway? I guess it's like, you know, the fresh new silhouette.

[B]

And I thought it's the silhouette of the moment.

[A]

It's a silhouette of the moment, and that's a major slay on Paige's part.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, I need people to talk about the film.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Was it good?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'll let you guys know. Like, my ass is going. Yeah, maybe there's, like, an early screening Thursday night so I could talk about it on the toes. Like, I'm getting a sitter. I'm going to.

[A]

Great. Maybe I'll go this weekend.

[B]

Yes. Maybe your husband could finally use the gift I got for him for Secret Santa the year before last, which was an annual movie pass. He gets two tickets a month, and he hasn't used any of them.

[A]

But it was one year.

[B]

It was a one year. Okay, Like a hundred dollars down the drain.

[A]

I'll pay for the movie ticket.

[B]

Oh, you're treating.

[A]

Big spender. Our next story. Aforementioned Dylan Sprouse gives a surprising reaction to Tasha tackling the home invader at His Hollywood Hills home with Barbara Palvin. So big story that actually just didn't make it this week because so far it's been a crazy week. But Dylan Sprouse and Barbara Palvin's Hollywood Hills, California home was burglarized, or at least attempted to, as a home invader tried to break into their estate. And Dylan tackled him and held him at gunpoint before the police arrived.

[B]

This is so hot. Like, this is so hot. And he. To me, he's always been the superior twin. Not to, like, put twin against twin, like Cole would. Cole would never do this. And I'm sorry. Like a man defending his home, his

[A]

wife is inside with his own body and physical self.

[B]

It's so sickeningly hot. Like, I just love this. I love this.

[A]

So he was actually tackled the guy

[B]

and he called the police.

[A]

It was Dylan's gun.

[B]

Huh? He's a.

[A]

He's a gun owner. Gun owner. Nicely.

[B]

Which I feel like is crazy for la.

[A]

I feel like you can have a firearm. It's probably just that you have to jump through a lot of hoops. Hoops?

[B]

No, I feel like actually a lot of people in LA have guns because of the coyotes.

[A]

Yeah, but you can own one. But it's not like they probably don't.

[B]

It's not congress with a Hollywood star.

[A]

Yeah, well, you know, they always say one thing and do another, so that's congruous. I don't know what he says, but anyways, he has a gun. He's not afraid to use it. Anyway, he said, I thought it was pretty funny. When the interviewer asked if it was too soon to joke about it, he replied, I'm really. This is actually to my detriment. I'm really not a too soon guy. In general, were laughing at things the moment they happen. He said, you have to have some levity in life. And thankfully, no one was hurt and there was no more violence than what happened. And so it's all okay. That's, like, a really nutty response.

[B]

I also saw somebody asked him about it, and he didn't answer. He just went like this, like, doing fake karate. I love them. I think they're one of the best couples in Hollywood. They're so underrated.

[A]

But I think it's so exciting that they caught the guy because, like, had this guy burglarized homes before?

[B]

Like, maybe he's Jerry Kempley.

[A]

Does he run in a network of burglaries? Can you go to his house and, like, find her Birkin?

[B]

Like, crack the case wide open?

[A]

I Think this is really major. They never find people who do burglaries.

[B]

No. Maybe they're gonna go to his house and find, like, the jewelry that Kyle Richard's mother gave to her.

[A]

Right. So I hope that, like, police are, you know, digging a little, taking this seriously. I don't know why I feel like they're not, you know, I feel like they're just gonna let him go and

[B]

all of Dylan's hard work, like, for nothing but release him.

[A]

Like, he's so, like, you know, he's not, like.

[B]

And lock him up, you know, It's a traumatic moment. Maybe he's working through it, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's in shock.

[A]

Yeah. They said they're. Barbara said they're. They're dealing with the trauma, with jokes and fun and all of that.

[B]

Ugh. I love Babs Babson Dill.

[A]

Yeah. Very cute.

[B]

They're such an underrated couple.

[A]

They are. But that's what keeps them great.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Stay under the radar.

[A]

Yeah. When we remember we're pleased, there's not a lot of pressure on them. Yeah, I know.

[B]

They're just good.

[A]

It's all love.

[B]

It's all good.

[A]

You know, you get too big and people start to hate.

[B]

Lots of pressure, too, to, like, stay together. I believe that's what happened to Paige and Craig. It was a part of it, I think. Honestly, I think, like, people loved them too much. Much. I remember when, like, Craig came on the show and they just started dating. We were like, you can never break up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a lot of pressure.

[A]

That's a lot.

[B]

But in addition to them, like, genuinely being incompatible towards the end, I think that was a part of it.

[A]

But do you think that sometimes that keeps you together a little bit? Like, so many people love us and believe in us. Like, I should love us and believe in us too?

[B]

No, I think more often than not, it has, like, an adverse effect. Then you, like, start to hate that. Hate the thing that, like, everybody loves.

[A]

Interesting. Just a thought. I've officially moved on from them, you know?

[B]

Yeah. No, I actually think they're better apart than together now, like, ever doing. Yeah. It's actually insane that they were ever together.

[A]

It is true. But I've healed.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Are you? No.

[B]

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[A]

Our fifth and final story. New book news. Nara Smith has announced that she is writing a cookbook. It is called Homemade and will feature a lot of her viral recipes with everything from scratch.

[B]

So the COVID is sickening. It's like very high fashion.

[A]

Yeah, she's like a dress and a table.

[B]

Like, obviously she cooks online. So like A cookbook is a natural next step. But I thought the whole thing is that, like, her. Her recipes are, like, highly inaccessible and unrelatable, and she, like, makes her own lotion.

[A]

Yeah. It will be interesting to see, like, what she actually puts in the book. And also I would love to know, like, how she got to this level of expert cook, because as I watch her videos over the years, I just assume she's looking everything up and just, like, making it, like, for shits and giggles. And not everything is, like, part of her actual personal recipe. So I hope the book, like, gets a little personal in terms of, like, sharing, you know, what she makes. I know she's also going to share some recipes from her childhood growing up in Germany.

[B]

So I was watching stuff from the Devil Wears Prada premiere, and they had this little girl, you know that little girl who, like, does inter red carbon interviews, and she's, like, sassy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She was asking everyone, like, what. What's the line from Devil Race Prada that you quote the most? And there were, like, a couple of key. Everyone was, like, saying, g your Lloyds. Everyone was saying, by all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me. And then they were asking, like, lots of celebrities. And Nara was like, oh, I don't know. Like, yeah, it was, like, kind of a bad answer. And everyone's like, wait, how do you not know? Like, you're at the premiere, first of all. And second of all, like, do you not know the movie?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So there's just something, like, inherently, like, cold and, like, distant about her. And I feel like. Yeah. And I feel like a cookbook is so, like, warm, inviting friends, family, dinner party. So I could see this book being really successful because the. The COVID is really pretty, and it being more of, like, an aesthetic coffee table book than an actual practical application of policy.

[A]

Yeah. But I'm expecting it to be practical, like, things that you can actually make. And I think the point is, I mean, she definitely only makes them extravagant on her Instagram. But, like, some things, it. It's not as hard as you think to make it homemade or make it from scratch, and there's so much reward in that. So I. I hope the book just goes a little deeper. And I'm actually surprised that she's doing a cookbook because I feel like as much as her content is about cooking, like, it's.

[B]

It's like, not.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

It's about, like, fashion.

[A]

Yeah. And it's, like, irony, and it's, like, satire and. Right.

[B]

I Don't know what it is, honestly.

[A]

Yeah. And I, I, I feel like this was, is very obvious for a person who cooks on the Internet, but not obvious for her.

[B]

I know. And so I would have expected more a memoir first.

[A]

I'm curious what the tone of the inside of the book will be. And I think there's a lot of potential for it to be really great and educational and fabulous. But I think she's got to dig, like, a little deeper. You know, people don't just let people into their homes, like, because we like your videos.

[B]

It's true, it's true. To get that, like, next step is, is crucial.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, she doesn't always share her recipe, so have people made her recipes before? Is her food good? We don't know.

[B]

No clue. That's what I mean. Like, you know, I feel like the type of stuff that does really well is, like 30 minute meals, family dinners, like, things that are actually practical for everyday life. And I wouldn't say that anything that she does is practical or relatable. And that's why she's been so successful in terms of the Internet, like virality. But a cookbook? I don't know. This kind of makes, like, no sense.

[A]

No, I think that it does. The way that she does it is not practical and relatable, like being in high fashion, but that's just like, pargy. But I think people like the idea of making things from scratch. Like, and once you've done it, you're like, you know what? It's not as hard as I thought it would be. And it's so rewarding. So I think a cookbook of everything from scratch. I actually don't own one. I would like one, but we need to know a little bit more, like, about. And that's how I felt about Meghan Markle too. Like, like, when did you learn how to cook? Why did you learn how to cook? Like, how did you learn how to cook from scratch? Nara Smith. Like, where did you learn these? Did you grow up with them? Like, I just want to know more about the person that I'm, like, now making their food. Because, you know, food is so personal. It's more personal than comedy. So I, But I also say I think there's a lot of potential in terms of, like, actually the content.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so far, the COVID the title. What do you think of the title?

[B]

Homemade? Yeah, it's good.

[A]

Is that what you want for her?

[B]

Like, is there not a book called that already?

[A]

I don't know. Not. And there's not even like a subtitle.

[B]

No. A lot of people, I feel like on the Internet do like their catchphrase.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's hers?

[A]

What is hers?

[B]

From scratch.

[A]

Like, it's always like, something about from scratch, but I guess scratch is a weird word.

[B]

It's just not pargy.

[A]

Homemade is, like, pretty excited to make it from scratch. It should be called, like, from scratch. It's really her tagline, but okay. Home, nature, it's the same thing.

[B]

Whatever. Synonym. Synonym.

[A]

And it's a nice word. Homemade.

[B]

Yeah. No, it looks like a coffee table book. All right, let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where I choose to help people. I am a helper. I am a philanthropist. It's our weekly advice segment. So if you ever thought, like, oh, I'm in a pickle, I'm in a bind with my friend or at work, and I would love to get advice from Claudia, Andrew, Jackie, they're so smart and wise. You actually can. Every Wednesday or Tuesday or whenever we feel like it. Email us deartoasters gmail.com or head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. are you ready?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

There's some kind of crazy ones today. Oh, yeah. Okay, which one should I do first? This one really bothered me. Hey, girlies. Please help before I kill my husband. For context, I'm 22 years old, freshly postpartum, and I'm just still figuring everything out, like breastfeeding, etc, etc. The other day, my husband asked me to send his friend Josh a text RSVP to his son's birthday party while he was driving. As soon as I clicked on his contact, I was appalled. There were multiple text threads of my husband saying how terrible I smell because of the breast milk, how, quote, disgusting my old lady bra is. His friend mentioned buying me lingerie to, quote, take the hint. I handed him his phone back with the messages still up, but he never mentioned it. I've been waiting for the right time to bring it up and it will have to. See Josh at the party this Saturday. Please help a girl out.

[A]

Oh, my God. That makes me, like, feel sick.

[B]

I don't even care about Josh. Like, oh, I don't care about Josh.

[A]

She.

[B]

Josh.

[A]

Who cares about Josh? And it sounded like Josh isn't even that big of a piece of, like, your husband.

[B]

No, he was the one who suggested the lingerie. But, like, whatever, that's. Who cares about Josh. Like, Josh is irrelevant.

[A]

Your husband is a piece of.

[B]

I know. I don't know how to tell you this, but you Have a bad husband. Like, that's really, really bad. I think that, like, a lot of husbands, like, do and say things that are, like, mean or whatever, but having someone who does that, like, at postpartum, like, it's the crime, is probably 50 times worse than him. Like, let's say you had read his texts. Like, you weren't pregnant. You just read his text and you know he's like, my wife wears a smelly bra or whatever. Like, so bad. This, yeah. Is 75 times worse. First of all, anybody who's talking about their spouse to an outside party, you're

[A]

like, you're a piece of

[B]

your spouse who's 22 years old in postpartum. I have to tell you, girl, I. I hate your husband if it's on site. Like, I'm literally knocking his two front teeth out. He's disgusting. And like, I don't know what to tell you because, like, you have a really bad husband. Now, he obviously didn't kill anyone, he didn't cheat on you, but he might as well have. Like, you have such a bad husband. I don't know what to tell you because you're 22 years old and you're postpartum and I don't want you to be alone, but you're better off alone than with somebody who does this. Like, I'm sorry, I hate your fudgeing husband. He's a bad guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And guys who do stuff like this, there's other stuff.

[A]

Yeah, this is just one thing.

[B]

I'm sorry. Guys who are obsessed with sex after the wife gives birth and like, you know, who are like, can't wait to get to that six week appointment. Six week. It should be six months. Like, I hate men like that. And like when a woman shows up to her six week appointment pregnant, you know, I've seen that on TikTok. It's like, it's so bad. Like, unless obviously that's what you wanted and you're happy and like, you were the one initiating the sex. Good for you. But like, I just don't buy it. Like, you have such a. Like you have an evil husband.

[A]

Yeah, you have an evil husband. Focus on yourself at this moment. Like, you don't have to focus on your baby to do anything big right now. You don't have to leave your husband. You don't have to deal with this. Like, I mean, if you want to have a conversation about it and see what he says, go ahead. But he's a piece of shit, so he'll say something shitty. I'm Sure. I don't know. That's a way to, like, cure him of this or make him understand that he's a piece of.

[B]

I think there are a lot of women who have bad, really bad people for partners. And they don't know that how. Like, how evil and bad.

[A]

And then one day they're stunned by something that they do.

[B]

Like, so you know that you have a really bad husband. You know that do with that information what you are.

[A]

I don't know what kind of person you are. Like, what, What. How much you can compartmentalize, how much you can, like, would you rather be

[B]

alone, put up with.

[A]

I don't really know. So you know yourself. Focus on the people around you who do love you. Family, friends. Ignore him. He's a piece of. And just focus on your baby right now and all will be clear in time. But you don't have to make any big decisions. But, you know, it's good to know who people are.

[B]

Yeah. Knowledge is truly power. That's how. Like, you're right. Some women have no idea. And they get so blindsided, like, years down the road because, like, but we were so happy. Oh, really? Your husband was evil the whole time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, you don't have to do anything yet, especially your postpartum. But. And like, if you want to, like, give him a shot, like, yeah, sure, talk it out. Sure. Maybe you're both really young. Maybe, maybe. But how a man treats you when you're, like, sick, when you're postpartum, like, just really speaks volumes about the person that he is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Unfortunately for you, that's just some loser

[A]

named Josh about it. Like, I'm. It's okay. This next one crimes. One, that he even thinks that way about you when you just give him birth. Not like that you're two that he

[B]

said it out loud.

[A]

Two that he said it to some random loser.

[B]

And then three. Josh. Yeah. Yeah, Josh. Are you ready for our next one? Totally different. Hi, guys. I am an everyday Salt Lake City listener here with a crazy situation. Long story short, my brother got into a motorcycle accident and has been in a coma since July of 2025. He's been transferred to many different hospitals at this point. And at one of them, a nurse on staff started taking a liking to my brother. Keep in mind, he was never her patient. He's now at a hospital that she does not work out, but she drives the hour or so commute and visits him alone very often. She visits him on her days off, touches him, cries over him, pokes and Prods him and explains that the second she passed his room and saw him again, he was not her patient. They had a special connection. I know my brother would hate her. She is also, like, quote, happily married. The problem is, my dad likes her. He thinks his behavior is normal. Everyone else thinks it's absolutely insane and inappropriate, and we really don't know what to do. Love you guys. Signed a toaster in disbelief.

[A]

That's crazy. And it doesn't even matter if your dad is into it, like, whether he is.

[B]

This is documentary fodder.

[A]

Like, yeah, she needs.

[B]

She's gotta go.

[A]

Like, why is she even on the visitors listen list?

[B]

Right. Well, I do think you can just, like, waltz into. It's not like jail, like, where you have to be on a certain list,

[A]

but you can't just walk into someone's hospital room.

[B]

I actually think you can.

[A]

At the desk you check in, you say, I'm here to see so and so.

[B]

Yeah. But I think you can just, like, visit, like, a friend. Like, you could just go.

[A]

Of course. But they have to, like, approve you, I guess.

[B]

I don't think that they do.

[A]

I think that they do.

[B]

It's not prison. There's not, like, an approved list list.

[A]

I think you could tell the hospital, like, this person can't come because everybody has to be checked in, id, everything.

[B]

Yeah, she's checking in. She's not flying under the radar if

[A]

you say this person can't come.

[B]

Yeah, I imagine you can say that. But then I think maybe, like, the police get involved. This is really spooky. I do think, like, you shouldn't let this go. This woman's obviously mentally ill. Yeah.

[A]

And, like, this is.

[B]

And sorry to your dad, but it's too bad.

[A]

And I'm sure for your dad, like, he loves his son and someone loves his son, but, like, she never even met him.

[B]

Like, no, Jackie, this is giving, like, truly crazy. Like, delusional.

[A]

This is, like, so far beyond us. Like, you need to speak to the authorities, doctors, and, like, people who know about this world to know that, like, this is not okay.

[B]

It's kind of giving, like a grift. Right. I don't know what her angle is. She's either, like, crazy and actually, like, thinks that this person's talking to her, in which case she's probably, like, schizophrenic and needs, like, help. Help. Or this is like a. You're a con, right? Like, you taught you. Get close to a family, you need money, like, something like that.

[A]

Marrying him and he's in A coma.

[B]

Right, right. And then she's pulling the plug, like,

[A]

she gets the fortune.

[B]

Yeah. This actually could be quite dangerous. Obviously. We've seen way too many episodes of Law and Order. But, like, I would actually. And especially if everybody's on your side, like, get her away.

[A]

Part of this is normal. Or cute or sweet. Like, no, where's.

[B]

Where is your brother's wife? Life? Maybe she's just like. Yeah. Oh, no, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[A]

She's married.

[B]

She's married. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So you and your mom and the aunties, like, you guys need to get this girl out. A classic. Your dad is, like, obsessed with her. Like, men are so stupid. Like, he's getting, like, taken for a ride by this random nurse.

[A]

You saying your brother would hate her. Imagine he wakes up from his coma, and, like, she's there, and she's like.

[B]

He's like, where's Catherine?

[A]

No, she's like, I'm your girlfriend. And he, like, doesn't remember, so he thinks that, like, this person's his girlfriend.

[B]

This is literally what Edie did to Mike in Desperate Housewives when he got into a coma and, like, lost his memory.

[A]

Knew each other before.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, funny. Okay, third and five.

[A]

When people accuse Dear Toasters of not being real, like, that's not helping.

[B]

Who can. Who could. AI. Could never generate something like that.

[A]

Not helping. The Dear Toasters Truth or else allegations.

[B]

Oh, I disagree. I disagree. Like, this is something only. Like, who could. No one can even think of something so crazy. Do you know it has to happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, third and final. Hey, swirlies. I desperately need your advice. I started dating this guy, and so naturally, I decided to Google him just to see if anything crazy popped up. Well, I almost wish I didn't, because I found an article from about 10 years ago where he was being interviewed for a foundation supporting members of the military that are addicted to poor porn. In this article, he spoke of his past experience with porn addiction. He's self diagnosed while in the army. Now, this is weird, right? He hasn't mentioned this yet, and who knows if he ever will? So my questions are. One, how do I bring it up to him that I've seen this article? Two, would this be a deal breaker for you? We've only been dating a couple of months, so should I run, or is this a. Not a big deal or uncommon? I just want to say, like, I think there's nothing wrong with this. Like, I know that sounds crazy, but I think, like, a. A lot of modern adult males, like, are addicted to Porn, like, they watch

[A]

them, even if it's not what you think of as an addict. Like, they are addicted to porn.

[B]

Yeah, I actually, a submission that I didn't choose was like, I saw this guy watching porn on an airplane. Like, I think that, like, the modern access to porn is a real addiction. So somebody who can acknowledge that and then like, seek help and not be embarrassed of it. I don't know, it kind of speaks to his character. I just want to say, like, yeah, we could be judgmental. Like, you are addicted to porn. But I think that like, a lot of young adult males, like, are addicted to porn and they don't even know it and it makes them crazy and it's like screen time for adults. Like, it's insane. So I don't know, I think it kind of speaks, like, people who can grow. I don't know. I kind of like, like, obviously it's not like the sexiest thing ever, but.

[A]

But it's workable.

[B]

Yeah. Unless you, like, I can't, I can't answer the question for you, like, should you run? But yeah, you could see this as like, icky if you wanted, or you could see like, the, the, the beautiful parts of it, honestly.

[A]

And like, and historically, it's kind of hard to get a boyfriend and like, find someone that you like.

[B]

Historically. Historically, it is hard to get a boyfriend.

[A]

And so you don't just, like, throw them away, like, because there's a blemish.

[B]

That's why I hate ick culture, because you throw away, like, good human beings for, like, dumb things. Meanwhile, like, they cheat on you and that's not an ick.

[A]

And so, like, I think things are always going to come up blemishes. People are human beings. They've lived entire lives, like, before they ever met you. And then you have to, like, see if that's something that you can live with or that's just too far for you. And I don't think that this is. I don't.

[B]

No. I think there are a lot of women who are, like, actively married to porn addicts. And then like, they can't even be intimate without it. Like, I don't know. I don't hate this. I just want to say, like, it's speed. Like, I love someone who can, like, self actualize and grow and like, and then want to help others.

[A]

Like, to our service. And by the way, like, thank you for your service. How about that? Like, he was in the military. Thank you.

[B]

Oh, he was in the military. And this article's from 10 years ago. So, like, maybe it was even in Iraq, you know, and there's so much going on and he's working on himself and others. I think that's beautiful. I have no problem with this. I just want to say.

[A]

And now I'm thinking about it, like, I'm sure porn is an issue in the military.

[B]

Of course, he's not a girl in sight. You know, there are like. I mean, like, romantic.

[A]

I never thought about it.

[B]

Yeah. It can be easy to become addicted.

[A]

And they're already, you know, it's a very mentally tough.

[B]

They're isolated.

[A]

Yeah. So. Well, thank you for your service. Part two on helping.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Servicemen and.

[B]

And I think you should stay with him. Like, if you don't like him. Sure. But like, it sounds like you do and like this is throwing a wrench in your plans. And I think it's fine.

[A]

I think it's fine. And. And I think it's fine. I think you're fine. Like. Oh, and as far as. Do you bring it up.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

You don't want to look.

[B]

Let's let him.

[A]

Yeah. And it's obviously a sensitive subject. You wrote in about it. We can acknowledge it's sensitive. So in his time.

[B]

In his time, it's only been. You said four or five months.

[A]

He just like, told you and you didn't know it. You. How would you react? Probably like not good. So at least now you can react as like the supportive partner that you want to be.

[B]

Yeah. Wife material. Because it's hard to get a guy historically.

[A]

Historically. It's hard to get a guy historically. So, you know, just throw one away. You think about it.

[B]

I agree. I agree. Especially when it was in the military. Is obviously in like tip top shape.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Loves his country.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

All right, well, that was your toasters. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. Hopefully we were a little bit helpful. And that is our show. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast of Millennial morning show where we Deliver the Fast 5 stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us video thumbs up. We are also available as podcast anywhere. Podcasts can be found so at Spotify, itunes, stitcher, public video. I already castbox all the places why we listen to podcast. Find us at toast. Even 5 star review about how beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented we are. It's actually insane that like every platform I list is like defunct.

[A]

That's just, I think speaks to how

[B]

long we've been doing this, how long

[A]

we've been doing this and how we are OGs. We will outlive these platforms.

[B]

What do I say? I said wherever you get your pet, that's Spotify, itunes, Apple, Stitcher.

[A]

Itunes is Apple podcasts.

[B]

The podcast. Yes. Stitcher Public radio. Our radio cast bugs. I'm screaming. These were the places, like, actually 10 years ago.

[A]

I feel like it's time for an update.

[B]

Like, you think it's actually, like, embarrassing. We're kind of aging ourselves.

[A]

It's sort of like it's Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube.

[B]

YouTube.

[A]

Yeah. And if you listen on another platform, like, please let us know, please.

[B]

Oh, in the comments, where do you watch the toast?

[A]

Sound off in the comment section that we never seen before because we never like, we.

[B]

I look at Spotify comments, YouTube and

[A]

they all listen on Spotify and Instagram comments. So go sound off on the Stitcher comments.

[B]

Can't wait to see you there.

[A]

Have a great day on Stitcher.

[B]

Love you. Bye.