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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and Happy Wednesday.
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Yeah, Wednesday. Oh, my God, Claudia, this week has me in a tizzy.
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Okay? It's hump day. And it's also the final hump day I will be spending in these fools. Just wanted to honor it. The with each day that passes. I can't wait to get out of here. I got locked in the lobby yesterday and the air conditioning isn't on. I mean, the heat isn't on. It's 13 degrees. Like, get me out of here.
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Well, I hope that you hump a studio that you love that's been so good to you.
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Yeah, I do plan on going to the new studio and just like, starting humping all the furniture.
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Isn't that like a tick tock trend where you, like, get on the furniture?
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Actually, yeah. I don't know if I would say humping. Oh, my God. Also, I have been spending time on reels to try and curate the algorithm.
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You wish to see in the world.
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Exactly. And I ended up on this girl's page, Jack, because one of her videos targeted me. And I obviously wasn't the only one who got targeted because the comments were like, how did I get here? And I want to say she's like, Scandinavian. She started like, a sexual wellness company. Like, basically like a sex toy company. But like, her toy, she created a new toy because, you know, I feel like the toys. Oh, her toy is a pillow humping saddle.
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For a dog?
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No, for a dog. Who? A human. Yes, dogs do, I guess. I mean, your dog could use it. She says it's ribbed for your pleasure, but it's for humans. And then I literally, like, I. I had to know more about this girl. She did. I watched every single one of her videos. So now she's taking over my whole Tik Tok, I mean, Instagram for you page. Oh, my God. It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. Like, she's honestly an entrepreneur. Like, she. Her product is sold out.
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Can you explain if it's not for dogs? It's a. It's just a pillow that you hump.
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No, no, no, no. Okay. It's a saddle that you, like, wrap around your pillow if you want to hump your pillow.
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Oh, it turns your pillow into something that you would want to hump.
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Like a. Yeah, it gives it, like, texture parts. It gives it. No, no, because it's literally a saddle, like in terms of shape, like a horse. So you can literally sit on it.
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It's not a Pocket vagina. It's not a flashlight for women.
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It's for. Am I doing a bad job of explaining this or are you dumb? Okay. It's like, it's for women.
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And it's not just like something you wrap around your pillow with a dildo coming off.
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No, no, no, no. So it's more so like friction based, if that makes sense.
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I understand. It's a surface.
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It's a surface.
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Reinvented the wheel here. Totally.
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What she was saying was that, like, pillows can be shapeless and, like, sort of make it difficult to find a good position. So she created a saddle that you literally wrap around your. Let me tell you, Jackie, I was howling in the comments, like, I don't know how I got here. And, like, reels is obviously trying to understand me because they're. And then I'm getting a lot of also, like, surgical videos. Like, you know how to remove a specific type of cyst. Like, I don't know why I need to know that.
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Okay, but you do, like a version of that. Like a pimple popping.
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Oh, no. But this is like a. Like a med school type.
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They're just. They're feeling you out. They're saying, how far does she want to go with this? Does she want. Yes. No.
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Yeah.
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Reel it back in.
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Real it back in. So that's what I.
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Real people.
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Actually, I. I actually don't know if that's true. Based on my research thus far. I don't know if I would say real people. Real people are real people.
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Okay. But I feel like it's too soon to call it. So that's your initial assessment?
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All that to say? Happy hump day.
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Happy hump day. I actually made a discovery last night that I just want to share with you to just put a pin on the conversation that we had on this. Literally Columbus myself, because remember how I said on Patreon, if you were listening to me, but maybe this will help someone out there that my skin. Big if that my skin is redder and worse than it ever is, and I'm someone who has, like, red skin. I always just get redness. And that's something that's just a part of being me. But it's been worse than ever. And I was like, I wonder why that is. And I've been trying to, like, self assess. I don't really do that many things, like, differently on a day to day. But I realized what I was doing differently. That's the reason for the season, because I googled it and confirmed my hypothesis. I started taking Turmeric ever since your husband was here and he left his bottle of turmeric and he said it's good for inflammation and I've been taking it like once a day. And then I was like, no, it can cause like dermatitis, skin issues. So it just, yeah, I'm, it's causing that for me. So I'm going to stop taking it. Of course. So if you were having redness and just started taking turmeric in the new year because your brother in law brought it over, now you know, we might.
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Have to cut this out because I don't know if we can actually let Ben know that you listen to like one of his. Like Eastern Ben is very interesting.
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I think this is, I think it's actually better this way because it's like, look, I listen tried and my face almost fell off.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just don't want him to know like he has any power over.
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Us and like he does and that.
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When he talks like we're actually listening.
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He, he said the key word which is inflammation, which really is the big one of the bingo words don't you find?
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Of the year.
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Of the year. Like everyone's talking about inflammation. I also associate inflammation with bloating. So I'm like, let me take my deep bloat pills and I'll turn my.
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Skin red when I think of inflammation. One thing about me, I actually don't think about inflammation and I don't want to. I'm feeling really like good about.
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Everyone's talking about inflammation. Don't you find like all the.
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I feel like everyone's talking about like.
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Their gut, gut microbiome, inflammation, metabolic health.
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I haven't ended up on that.
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You haven't met those siblings? No, Casey and Cali means I'm not familiar. Definitely seen her. She was just on kissing Kristen Cavallari. I don't know if REALS has targeted you for that yet.
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No.
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She talks a lot about metabolic health and it all comes back like everything that's going wrong in everyone at all times has to do with your metabolic.
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Health being that's like a new part of the body that like people discover on the Internet like every two years and they say, well, oh, cortisol, I'm on cortisol. Do you know cortisol if you're fat, if you're ugly and you're unhappy, it's because your cortisol levels are low. Like did you not know that?
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And we're also taking cortisol but you could Just take it and bring it back, right?
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Oh, I don't know. I think people are cortisol.
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I think people are taking cortisol.
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So that's what I'm saying. There's always, like, a new fangled, like, part of your body where it's like, that's literally where all your problems come from. It's inflammation.
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No. And this isn't an ad, but it does make me want to do the new Skinny Confidential beauty water. This is not an ad. Even though, like, she's our boss. Because it has, like, three different things in it that I'm trying to get into. My everyday colostrum, electrolytes, and then, like, Pearl and I think that's the cortisol.
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Earl, what's it from?
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I don't know.
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Earl. Somebody help me. Bedwin now. Let me just send him a voice.
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This is, like an amalgamation of all of the different reels that I see from. From the wellness podcasts that I'm interested in. But, like, don't listen to the whole thing of Earl. It's anything that you watch with then.
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Is it from Margot?
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Covenant? What'd you just watch? Covenant.
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What did I do? Thank you.
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Is it from Margot?
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What is this from Pearl? Earl. One of them will know.
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Is it from.
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Like, what would somebody be saying? Pearl? SpongeBob?
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No, I'm. Oh, maybe SpongeBob, but it's not Pearl.
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Watch. I'm, like, actually making it up. That's so me. Yeah, these fool. There was a trend on Tick Tock, like, last week.
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So I guess that's your wellness recap.
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That's your reels recap. I'm back to Tick Tock. There was a trend on Tick Tock last night. It's like when. When you say you're a Miley Cyrus fan, so they expect you to play Flowers, but play this instead.
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I follow enough Hannah Montana archive accounts on X that I've seen all this.
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So I, like, two weekends ago, spent a lot of time in the car and I listened to Breakout, and this is Miley Cyrus, like, and her music. This is not a slight to her current music, but it is literally the best music she ever made. Like, those two albums, I forgot. And it's crazy how you literally know the words to songs you haven't heard in, like, 18 years. Those two albums are actually works of art. And those are not Disney, are they? They were like, she was Disney.
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Disney. And then Hannah Montal and meet Miley Cyrus. It's Disney.
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And I guess the driveway will be the end. Did we have this conversation already not.
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About Driveway, but I feel like the first album that maybe she was still under her Disney contract, but she wasn't being Hannah anymore was can't be Tamed.
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It's from Friends. Thank you.
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It's for. I should have known. Anything that you reference that I don't know is either Conclave or Friends.
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Conclave. What could I possibly reference from Conclave? You're so annoying.
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Your new favorite movie, Conclave.
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I actually talked about it all day yesterday. It was seriously the craziest movie I'd ever seen. And, like, when Josh.
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The last movie, the substance.
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That really was the craziest movie I'd ever seen. But, like, when Josh told Ben to watch it, like, yeah, like, I understood, right.
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For that.
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Yeah, it's a movie. Like, I can't stop talking about it. That's what a film is supposed to do. That's what I said about the substance. Like, was it good? Like, kind of. Did it make me think and feel. Yes. And that's important.
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That is important. That's like Real Houses of Beverly Hills, which we're going to recap at the end of the show, which both Claudia and I watched last night.
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Did. Did you feel something?
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Anger, frustration, confusion?
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I felt, like, actually annoyed.
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Yeah.
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At Kyle.
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Yeah. And we'll. We'll get into it. I feel like there's a lot also, like, offline, and it's also, like, nothing, like, major is happening. It's a lot of, like, subtext, don't you find? Like, even that one bit about, like, she meant production.
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Ooh.
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They show us the cameras. Like, who? What?
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When Garcelle said. I mean, production likes to laugh. Like, seriously, that was probably one of the. It was a slay. Like, it was a. Because it was a good point. Like, I feel like if you just say. That's like Denise Richards. If you just say, bravo. Bravo. Bravo. If you bring up production, you think that, like, you kind of get a pass.
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No, I was ready.
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Production. Production can laugh.
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I was like, oh, yeah, I know. She's right. There's things that, like, she can't repeat because of production. And then Garcelle was like, no, no.
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That was such a slay. I feel like sometimes in confessionals, housewives, like, really think that they, like, ate when they say something, and it's actually cringe. That was truly a serve.
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Yeah, it was really funny. We will save our recap.
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Yes. Till the end, we think.
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A
And other than that, what's new with.
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Turtleoon wearing a sweater from Amazon? I am at the phase of My life where, like, obviously I need bigger clothes. That's just sort of a fact of life. Let's. Let's not get deeper than that, you know? And I can't justify spending, like, a lot of money on it. So my wardrobe is pretty much 100Amazon these days. I wouldn't have it any other way. Like, I know people clown on, like, clothes from Amazon if the quality was poor. It's literally not. Like, what's different than from this sweater from, like, a sweater from, like, the store?
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Well, it depends on the store.
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And then it's just like, it's so. It's so fine.
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The ingredients.
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So it's not necessarily maternity clothes. Although I did place a big purchase order.
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As you should.
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Maternity clothes. That's just, like. It's just become unavoidable at this point.
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As it should be and as you should do. Like, I don't know, like, what you're trying to prove to anyone.
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Oh, I actually meant to ask you this because, like, Ben was making fun of me last night because I was, like, laying with my belly out because, like, the waistband was just hurting me, and he was like, your stomach. Stomach is clear. Like, my. I've never been a type of girl to wear bikinis. Like, the color of my stomach is, like, the color I was born. It's never seen the sun. It's like, your ass cheeks. It's like. It's crazy to think about that. That's actually what my face could and should look like if I never saw the sun. So I was just, like, you know, looking at my stomach because then Ben was making me feel self conscious and, like, tell me if this is, like, a pregnancy thing or. I've never, like, like, stared at my stomach. Like, it was literally hairy.
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Well, you have hair all over your body except for your palms and your feet.
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No, I know, but, like, dark black hairs. I literally was like, get me my tweezer. And I went to town.
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I feel like people get a hairier belly during pregnancy. I don't recall.
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It literally looks like a chimpanzee.
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Like, I don't. I don't recall having that, but I feel like that's a normal.
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But you also have your neck, like, hair, right?
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So it's just, like, peach fuzz. But I feel like where you have that line. The linea.
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Yeah, I was familiar with the line from, like, the belly button to the crack, but, like, it was kind of all over, you know, kind of, like, above, around the bell.
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Maybe it's keeping baby warm for the winter.
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Not Anymore. I tweezed it. I literally was like, get out of here. As if my body hasn't changed enough and I have to deal with this.
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I don't think so. Okay, Turtle O. Yeah. So just don't look at anything. Okay.
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Well, that's something else I'm glad you brought up. Just don't look.
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Why? You're taking away your mirror.
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No, I looked today when I was getting dressed. Like, I just.
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I looked at everything, and it's a beautiful miracle. Let me say this. Let me say.
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Would I say it's beautiful? No. Was it worse than, like, what I had been picturing? No.
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And it's miraculous.
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Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course it's miraculous.
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You just, like, you're. You're the negative self. Talk about, like, the size and the clothes. It's gotta stop. Because it's miraculous and it's beautiful no matter what you say.
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Yes, I know. Okay, how about that? I know. I'm not gonna argue with you, but, like, okay, good luck getting me to stop.
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I know. I. It's impossible.
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No. Oh. And actually, I don't know if I said this to you or I said it to somebody else about you, but I've been meaning to apologize to you and, like, every other in my life who, like, you know, I would talk to when they were pregnant or postpartum and they would, like, complain about their weight or just, like, their size. Like, not even complain, just, like, remark on it. And my whole philosophy was like, girl, you are literally growing a baby. Stop. Like, I will not hear it. And honestly, like, no, you're valid in your feelings. Keep talking. You are fat. Like, I really. Because when people say to me, it's like, it's beautiful. Like, it is. I'm holding space for two shoots like it's beautiful, and I feel disgusting. Like, So I feel like I. Anytime a pregnant woman in my life, like, confided in me, I was like, I shut it down. I'm like, stop that right now. You are beautiful. Look at this beautiful child. And it's a yes. However, if you feel fat. Feel that way.
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No. But I think also, I think I need to give you a bit of that one because, like, the. The more you talk about something, like, the more. And the more you think about something, like, the more it just consumes you. So, like, if you stop those thoughts in their tracks, like, it. You won't feel it all the time. So I think we need to stop those thoughts in their tracks.
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Well, I think if I need to stop the thoughts in the track, I have to stop being big, and that's just not gonna happen, you know?
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No, you need to focus on another element of what your body is doing.
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I think I need to start, like, a side hustle or something just to get my mind off of the changes going on. Honestly, like, that's too much time. When I'm distracted, I don't think about it.
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Yeah.
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But, like, when I'm laying around watching Jeopardy, I'm like, damn, my thighs are huge.
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Oh, my God.
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And actually, it's really crazy the way, like, because I've been, like, overweight my whole life, so, like, it's not new to me, but it's like a new type of overweight. And I guess, like, it's really. Look, they say, like, childbearing hips. Like, my ass and hips are going wide where it's like, I never used to get big like that. Some people do get. It's much. I think it's. I like it better, like, it's technically, like, curvy, but really the way in which you grow is different than just a classic weight gain.
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Yeah. Because it's all expertly designed.
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Yeah. Yeah. I guess I only just found that out. I was, like, reading something on Twitter that men don't have hips.
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Yeah.
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Like, because it's for childbearing.
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Right.
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That's, like, so crazy.
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No, I feel like. I feel like I knew that they might have. They have, like, hip bones.
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Yeah. But, like, they don't go out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It's like they don't need them.
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No.
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Interesting.
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Very interesting. Turtleoo.
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Now, excited to dive in. I never, like, I don't think I'd ever say these words. I'm really excited to dive into our lead sponsor.
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Oh my God. I saw.
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Thank you Turtle yada.
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Welcome.
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Our first story is actually a really crazy update in the Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively It Ends with Us saga.
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It's not even a crazy update. It is seriously but clenchingly painful to say so.
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Justin Baldoni's team has teased a website launch with Blake Lively correspondence after releasing a behind scenes video from the set of the movie. So Justin Balboni's team released a video that was like an uncut footage from.
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It was about 10 minutes long from.
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A
One of their scenes in the movie. And they also teased the launch.
- [21:10]
B
This is a scene that Blake had referenced in her complaint. So they're like, oh, you want to see us here? Here's. Here it is.
- [21:18]
A
But they also teased the launch of a new website meant to directly squash her claims. They said Justin and team have the right to defend themselves with the truth. This is what we will be continuing to show with the upcoming website containing all correspondence as well as relevant videos. So the video that they show has like a lot of dialogue where they're talking and I didn't see the movie but in the background, like they're winning the Stanley cup but the two of them are talking. So like, are we just watching them, like talk and flirt?
- [21:47]
B
Yeah, it's a part of like a montage of them, like, falling in love. It's just like all slow mo. It's all mute. There's a song playing over it. So that's why they're talking about. They're like doing. They're talking during the scene. They're like, do we need to talk? Their voices are not, they're not even miked. Like, their voices are not a part of this particular scene.
- [22:03]
A
But they're also like talking and a little bit disagreeing about like random stuff and smiling at each other. So, like it actually.
- [22:09]
B
And kissing.
- [22:10]
A
So the way that it comes off, it feels like they're flirting and they're talking about like their stuff spouses because they're like having disagreements about like how you are in Love with your partner. Blake is saying, well, Ryan and I, we love to talk. You know, there's not enough time in the day to talk, so when we get together, we're just talking and just.
- [22:28]
B
Sits like, oh, me and Emily, we just like to stare into each other's eyes for minutes.
- [22:33]
A
He's smiling and looking at her lovingly. It is the weirdest.
- [22:36]
B
Nuzzling her neck.
- [22:37]
A
It is the weirdest thing to watch. Then they have to, like, you know, bump noses, kissing, and.
- [22:42]
B
And Jenny Slate catches a stray bullet.
- [22:45]
A
Jenny Slate catches a stray bullet because Blake live, he was like, oh, my gosh, your nose is so big.
- [22:51]
B
That's actually. No, that's not what she said. Because everyone's, like, diagnosing. There's a nose thing, like, was weird. So they're, like, bumping heads, and it's like, it's gonna look cute. But in the moment, they're, like, acknowledging, like, this is a weird thing for two people to doing. She's like, oh, my God, this is, like, so nosy. Yeah, it's just like, nose, nose. And he's like, yeah, I know. And my nose is huge. And she's like, yeah, it is. And then he's like, well, that's why we hired Jenny Slate. Like, she also has a big nose. It's like, okay, objection. Relevance. And, like, people. Okay, sorry. Continue.
- [23:20]
A
He. Yeah, he throws in Jenny Slate, which, like, does sound random, but then I saw, like, someone had argued that because she places sister in the movie. So it was just, like, throwing in how it's like, a big nose.
- [23:30]
B
We're a big nose family.
- [23:30]
A
Yeah. So, like, I can. I can let that go.
- [23:34]
B
So the thing is, this video is so subjective. Like, yeah, because he's lazing it.
- [23:39]
A
He's using it to prove his claims. And there was even, like, the thing about the smelling and how she's, like, saying that she smells bad because of the spray tan. He corroborates that. And then she had said previously, like, he said that she smelled bad. So he's presenting it, like, look. Look what it is. And then she. Her team is like, yes, exactly.
- [23:55]
B
Look. So any woman. She's her. Her team statement was like, yeah, any woman who's experienced, like, feeling uncomfortable in the workplace can know, like, the attempts at making jokes to, like, lighten it up and, like, feel. So I think whatever team you've been on up until this point, like, you're gonna argue your side because you really can make the case for both. Like, you could look at this and be like, yeah, it's like, weird, but it's innocuous. It's just like a day at work. But then you could also look at it, like, through the lens of all this subtext and be like, no, like, this is inappropriate. Like, you really could argue both sides. So it's not, like, a complete, in my opinion, serve. Although, like, public opinion has swayed so to just inside. And it's so crazy that he. I mean, I. I would. I would, too. Like, I care a lot about what people think, and so he so clearly cares about what people think. And he's being, like, a little obvious about it. Like, with the website. The website feels, like, a little, like, icky to me. No, like a little high school.
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A
Oh, for sure. But, like, it's. This is all on the Internet now. And, like, I feel like for him, like, if he doesn't save his good name, like, he won't work again, there's not really much else that he can do. Like, his whole career, like, is riding on how up until this point for him and for Blake, I feel like whether or not people think she's a mean girl, like, she'll be like, she'll work again.
- [25:09]
B
She'll survive.
- [25:10]
A
She has her husband. Like, she has her family. She has. She's. You know. So I do feel like the stakes are, like, a little different. And that's why he doesn't care if you think that that's a weird move. Like, he just wants the people to see how he experienced it. And I still think with all of the stuff that is going to come forward, it's all going to be in, like, the subtext of how it's read. And it's actually a perfect, like, psychological experiment, human behavior, how, like, two people can really think that they are right and that they've been wronged. And when you see it from their perspective, you see it like that. But when you look at it from the other perspective, you see it the other way. I feel like we talk about this all the time, even with Dear Toasters, like, oh, what does the other person have to say?
- [25:47]
B
Right?
- [25:48]
A
So it is sort of interesting. But watching this video, you want to know my takeaway? I never want to see a movie ever again if this is how it gets made. This was the weirdest thing.
- [25:57]
B
It's coming too hard.
- [25:58]
A
This is the weirdest thing I ever saw. And, like, I don't want to watch stuff like that has to get made this way. It's like my takeaway.
- [26:06]
B
My takeaway. I was actually reminded of a conversation we had on this show. A Little while ago was that in order to be an actor, you have to be, like, a genuine psychopath, like, a mentally ill person. Because anybody who can sit through what they both just did, like, touching noses and kissing while also fighting and, like, in front of people, seriously, it requires such a level of delusion. I couldn't. I could never.
- [26:27]
A
No, I could never be, like, holding someone that I don't like, smiling at him, talking. Like, I just. It's not for me. Are you also.
- [26:35]
B
And I guess, like, if I would have seen. If you like, I think sometimes I'll look at, like, scenes in movies and think to myself, like, oh, that must have been awkward to film. And this just proved it's 30 times worse than I ever imagined it would have been.
- [26:46]
A
I agree. And I. I don't. I'll watch documentaries from now on. Like, I don't want to watch people act.
- [26:52]
B
If this is reality, we need just reality tv.
- [26:54]
A
We need just reality tv. Also, have you been seeing the footage from the swing set?
- [26:59]
B
Yes. The footage from the swing set was popping off because they were filming out in public during the time of the movie filming. So not to, like, fuel any rumors, but just to be like, oh, my God, how exciting. Like, look, I can see these people. And now all their videos are resurfacing because you can read lips.
- [27:13]
A
And it looks like they're disagreeing about how to push the swing.
- [27:17]
B
The swing. Right. And there genuinely is only one way.
- [27:20]
A
Yeah. What was his issue with how she was doing it?
- [27:23]
B
I don't know. They just. These, like, these two people, it's clear they got to a point where they hated each other so fucking much that they were arguing with one another about really inconsequential, like, how to push a swing.
- [27:34]
A
It's so weird that he's like, the director and you disagree with him and then you have also have to go and kiss him. So I really just think, Sag Aftra, like, you should not direct movies that you're also in. I feel like that's.
- [27:44]
B
It's complicated.
- [27:45]
A
Very complicated. The swing. I was. Then yesterday, I was at the park pushing the swing, and I started to think, like, am I doing it the right way?
- [27:51]
B
Like, there's only one way.
- [27:53]
A
No, I know, but I couldn't. I couldn't tell, like, who was what the problem was. She also, like, had a lot of hair in her face for, like, put your hair up at the playground. Okay, first of all.
- [28:01]
B
Yeah, let's get to that part of the lawsuit. Like, who did the hair?
- [28:05]
A
And then second of all, it's actually funny. When kids are in that bucket swing, they do go towards the.
- [28:09]
B
Lean forward.
- [28:10]
A
Lean forward in there. It's like Superman. And it doesn't look aesthetically what you think like a baby in a swing should look like, but that's actually how they like to swing.
- [28:17]
B
No, not only that, it looks hella dangerous. Are you about to flop out of this thing because you have one of those swings, and the kids, when they're smaller, it's, like, the only one that they can get in. And it's, like, the way that you, like, flip upside down.
- [28:28]
A
It's like they like to be upside down, which isn't.
- [28:30]
B
They like to look like they don't have any bones.
- [28:32]
A
Like, it's not picture perfect for a movie. So I feel like she was trying to get the baby to sit up, but that's actually. The babies like to be hunched over in there.
- [28:39]
B
Yeah, the bucket swing. That's so true.
- [28:41]
A
So it was just, like, a losing.
- [28:43]
B
Battle at this point in the Blake Lively drama. Like, I feel like I won, like, have genuinely stopped caring. And I think I was really invested for a really long time and felt like I really wanted to defend Blake, and I do. I. I am going to choose to believe that, like, she, like, what she's saying is true that she felt uncomfortable and that she. But I feel I've also been beaten into submission by the baldoni. The Baldonators, they're gonna love to hear this. Yeah. No, I just, like, I, I. I'm not willing to die on this cross. Like, this is not my problem. Like, I'm getting so much hate for my baldoni takes it. It's like, I didn't even make any money off this movie. Like, why. Why am I so sure? Okay, you're all right. Like, please, this one. I'm actually. I've stopped caring.
- [29:24]
A
Wow.
- [29:24]
B
Sure. Sure. Because you could really argue I see really compelling takes on both sides. Like, I. I do.
- [29:30]
A
Yeah.
- [29:30]
B
But my inclination, like, if I had to, you know, you know, gun to my head, I would side with Blake, but I, I. But I don't want to talk about it anymore because I'm sick of all the hate I'm getting.
- [29:41]
A
Well, I do feel like we're going to be talking about it more and more, especially, like, with the text. Who knows what's in there, by the way? I know it's, like, legal now, so the point is, like, to show the text. I just don't love, like, airing out text messages on a website, but it's. They're so beyond what is. I know at this point, and I just.
- [30:01]
B
When they're in a lawsuit, it's different.
- [30:03]
A
Yes, of course.
- [30:04]
B
Like, when they're, like, just put on public display to, like, get people to, you know, vote in your favor.
- [30:10]
A
Yeah. So I. But the thing is, I really can see how this went so sideways, how two strong personalities with a very different idea of what they wanted out of this movie on sensitive subjects, we're clashing, and then things just keep reaching new levels with her husband, and then with, like. Then all of a sudden, like, you're not my friend. You're my foe, but we're working together. You don't get the same access to me that you even got three months ago. So when you think that you have that access now, you're offending me. It's. I could see how things, like, deteriorated so quickly and got into this mess, and I. I don't. I just think it's really, like, a shame that it's, like, this. This ugly.
- [30:47]
B
No. Also when you think about it, like, how much more there is to come. Because actually, Blake Lively has not released anything or really spoken since that initial complaint. Ever since then, all the news has been things Justin and his team was releasing, like, his big lawsuit, the lawyer going on Megyn Kelly, the pictures of them in the basement, the voicemail from that night, the website, now this video. Blake actually hasn't, like, formally rebutted yet. So if that's to come, which I imagine it is, we're really at the very beginning of this, which is unfortunate.
- [31:20]
A
For us, because I do feel like every time there's a big update, we will talk about it just because it's big, but we're really circling the drain here.
- [31:28]
B
Yeah. Yeah. Although, like, it was a nice window into why being an actor looks like the worst job in the world. Like, seriously, I'd rather shovel at the circus.
- [31:36]
A
Yeah.
- [31:37]
B
I'd rather set up chairs on the beach.
- [31:40]
A
We like to talk at the end of the day. There's not enough time in the day for tough.
- [31:47]
B
One of my favorite, like, icebreaker questions, and I feel like I talk about this all the time, is, like, asking people, what's the job in the world that you never want to have? And, like, the classic answers are like, shoveling at the circus. Mine has always been, like, being someone who sets up chairs on a beach at a hotel. It's just, like, so physically laborious and hot. And now I need to add to, like, I really would never want to be an actor, except I guess the difference is that, like, all the jobs I listed before, like, you're getting paid minimum wage, whereas, like, it's. You're going through torture to go home with, like, virtually nothing, whereas actors, like, you're going home with millions to be tortured. And, you know what?
- [32:16]
A
Would you do it?
- [32:16]
B
There's a price. Yeah. Maybe it's not the job I'd least likely want to have. That's. Maybe that's dramatic because you also have to. Money matters.
- [32:23]
A
You also have to do this acting until you make money. Like, real big money.
- [32:28]
B
Right, right, right. Like, think of all the. Think of the actors who do this, you know, for minimum wage.
- [32:33]
A
Yeah.
- [32:34]
B
They must really love the art of acting. And I can't relate to that.
- [32:37]
A
No, me neither.
- [32:38]
B
It's so crazy. Oh.
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A
Are you ready for our next story?
- [32:42]
B
Yeah.
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A
Addison Rae is offering fans an update on the state of her friendship with Kourtney Kardashian.
- [32:47]
B
Oh, so we know that. That's so funny. I didn't know where that sentence was going, because at first I thought you were just remarking on the fact that she was on.
- [32:54]
A
She's on the COVID of Rolling Stone. She's talking about a lot of different things. Her career and pop, and also Courtney.
- [33:01]
B
So I thought you were gonna say the state of her family relationship, and then you said her relationship with. And I was like, oh, Charlie D'Amelio.
- [33:07]
A
And now Kourtney Kardashian.
- [33:09]
B
Right. There's so many ways that could have went, but I like the route.
- [33:12]
A
I think she did speak about Bryce in the interview too, but I. I was more interested in Courtney, so.
- [33:18]
B
That's so funny. I don't even think of Bryce. Like, I don't care.
- [33:20]
A
I don't think of Bryce. But do I look like I think of Bryce?
- [33:25]
B
Kind of.
- [33:26]
A
Do I look. I don't even. I can't keep those guys apart.
- [33:29]
B
I know.
- [33:30]
A
I don't even really know that she. I knew that she dated one.
- [33:33]
B
You're talking about, like, the Sway Boys.
- [33:34]
A
Like, Noah Becky is Bryce Hall.
- [33:36]
B
Josh.
- [33:36]
A
And Josh, who's also bff, so he stands out from the pack.
- [33:40]
B
Yes. And I think Noah Beck stands out because I like not to be a freak. Like, I think he's so cute. He's, like, 11, and he's adorable. They're not together anymore, but. Yeah, but then there's that whole group of guys like Bryce and Jaden and Faden and Laden, you know, lose me at Jaden. Yeah.
- [33:57]
A
Then I come back at Lil Huddy.
- [34:00]
B
Oh, yeah. Yes. Little Huddy was a part of the Sway crew as well.
- [34:03]
A
So lest we not forget, moral of the story. Addison had dated Bryce in the past, so she was asked about her friendship with Courtney and she said, she's an amazing friend of mine, amazing mentor and person. We got very fortunate that it ended up working out, and I'm very thankful for her. She added that they have very similar interests and temperaments. I think both of us are very honest people and we like a lot of the same things. It started off with both of us just loving to work out. We were doing that together a lot. She's just a very real person. She's been so helpful to me in every way. She's such a good person to lean on. And then also now, you know, she has a new baby. So I do think their friendship has, like, they're just in different places, but.
- [34:41]
B
I feel like, hot and fast. But, like, and now that they're not doesn't mean that they, like, dislike each other. But yeah, like, Courtney has, like, new step kids and a new baby. Like, no.
- [34:49]
A
And I feel like right after this time with Addison was when Courtney started dating Travis. And so, yeah, when you get a new man and they're so wrapped up doing each other, like, you don't see your friends as much, especially when, like, the friend was a newer friend. But I'm glad to know that there's no bad blood because typically when you're so hot and fast and then you're at zero, it's bad blood. But I do feel like Addison, like, would still call Courtney up for advice.
- [35:11]
B
Yeah, I. I didn't think anything nefarious. I'm glad that there's not. I think of these two as, like, seriously just going in different directions with their lives. And, like, the Courtney's very much. I feel like in a little bit, like, retirement mode and Addison's just revving.
- [35:22]
A
Up, up, you know, but also their boyfriends are like, friends. Right.
- [35:26]
B
Who's her boyfriend again?
- [35:27]
A
Addison, the drummer.
- [35:28]
B
Omar.
- [35:29]
A
Yeah, Omar.
- [35:30]
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like rocker boys.
- [35:32]
A
They're rocker boys. So I wonder at the holiday party, like, if they see each other and.
- [35:36]
B
Like, MGK is there definitely too.
- [35:38]
A
At the Rock holiday party.
- [35:40]
B
Yeah. And Rock and Eve. I love to see Addison on the COVID of Rolling Stone. I feel like that's actually extremely major.
- [35:49]
A
Yeah. Except the sub headline, like, there are a few years too late with it. It looked like something that could have come out seriously in 2021 when she dropped.
- [35:59]
B
What did it say?
- [36:00]
A
It said, addison Ray, the queen of Tick Tock, is coming for Pop.
- [36:07]
B
Yeah. No, that's delayed for sure.
- [36:09]
A
Dated headline.
- [36:11]
B
But it's so major that she's on.
- [36:14]
A
The COVID of Rolling Stone.
- [36:15]
B
For somebody who's trying to, like, break.
- [36:17]
A
Into Rolling Stone, I'm happy for them.
- [36:20]
B
It's like, kind of cool of Rolling Stone. Like to be cool.
- [36:22]
A
I'm happy for.
- [36:23]
B
You know what I mean?
- [36:23]
A
They landed at huge.
- [36:25]
B
She looked awesome. She's so pretty. I love her. Like, there's so much that I would ask her, honestly, before I asked her about Kourtney Kardashian, I think they did.
- [36:34]
A
Ask her a lot of stuff. I'm just saying.
- [36:36]
B
Yeah.
- [36:38]
A
The queen of Tick Tock is coming for public. She's been here. And by the way, these days, she's not the queen of Tick Tock.
- [36:43]
B
The headline is gonna say that too. And not saying that as like, a slight. Like, she's kind of evolved past.
- [36:47]
A
She literally set the crown down.
- [36:50]
B
She left the throne.
- [36:51]
A
She got up and she abdicated.
- [36:54]
B
Wallace, David, Edward. David and Wallace.
- [36:59]
A
Yeah.
- [37:00]
B
Right. Wallace was the girl who he left for the girl.
- [37:03]
A
Lee.
- [37:04]
B
The girly. Yeah. It's giving Addison Simpson, you know Simpson.
- [37:09]
A
Yeah. So I felt like this was like. Like a little bit dated. But I'm happy for Addison to be coming into pub. I was ready for her to be a movie star. Didn't get my way. What can you do? You win some elusive.
- [37:20]
B
Remember when Courtney was in that movie?
- [37:22]
A
That movie was amazing. That movie was amazing. It was like. I remember watching it. I think I watched your truth. I think I watched it twice in 24 hours. Like, it was so, so good. Like, it was so well done for a remake. Addison's big moment, she crushed it. Watch it. Like, seriously, I'm actually. I don't know if it okay as well, but I remember being so impressed that they pulled that off.
- [37:47]
B
The funny thing about Addison's music career is that she had obsessed and then she took a ton of time off because, like, people were clowning on her for it. And then this last year, she released two songs that like people, they are so critically acclaimed. Like, the music industry thinks that they are the most. And to be honest, like, I wasn't vibing so much with the new stuff, but you play obsessed, like, and I'm out on the dance floor popping like. You say you're obsessed. Obsessed with me. So I took a second and I said, oh. And then wait. And then she released to die for.
- [38:15]
A
What is it?
- [38:16]
B
To die for this sex. To die for. Oh, I want someone to die for. And that one, like, everybody Slept on. And so she took a break. She was like, you, like, deserve me. And then she just released these two songs that everybody's loving.
- [38:28]
A
They're saying, other than Diet Pepsi, Aquamarine.
- [38:32]
B
Oh, I was that crazy looking music video of her, like, in dungeon. Like, no, no, she was like, in an alley.
- [38:38]
A
Yeah, I. I don't watch that.
- [38:41]
B
No. But people, like. And I was happy to see them, like, gooping and gagging over Addison because that's our girl. But I felt like, I'm like, you guys like this. Wait till you hear Obsessed.
- [38:48]
A
Yeah, yeah, it just felt.
- [38:51]
B
It felt like a little, you know, overhyped, in my opinion.
- [38:53]
A
Yeah, but. Well, we're sat for what's next.
- [38:57]
B
We are sat for what's next.
- [38:59]
A
Are you ready for our next story? Our third story?
- [39:02]
B
I am.
- [39:03]
A
Real Housewives. Think of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City's Mary Cosby reveals that Rihanna reached out to her after the emotional scene discussing her son's drug addiction.
- [39:13]
B
This is sort of just like a reality star rite of passage. You know, you've reached true Bravo upper echelon of, like, the Bravo liberties. You're different from the others when Rihanna either tags you in a story, references you in an interview, or personally reaches out.
- [39:27]
A
Yes. So during a recent interview with Vulture, Mary Cosby revealed who has reached out to her after the show aired an emotional scene where her son Robert Jr. Admitted he was addicted to drugs in addition to her castmates. She said she even heard from the famous singer turned business mogul Rihanna. She said, I heard from all the cast. I even heard from Britney. Lisa Barlow was the only one that didn't reach out. And that's why I said, I feel like she's the kind of person that is a little bit happy when other people are going through something, but everyone else and even other housewives reached out to me. Even Rihanna reached out to me. I was happy I did it after I received the way people accepted it and loved it. She said about Rihanna, she reached out to us when the show aired and told us she loved us. And then on Christmas Day, she said, merry Christmas and I love you and Robert Jr. Mary says, I feel like if you can reach people of that caliber, you're doing something right. You know what I mean?
- [40:12]
B
No. I'm telling you, like, this feels good because I feel like when Mary Cosby came on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City at the very beginning, she was deeply misunderstood. Now she wasn't doing herself any favors by, like, saying some of the craziest things, like being really Mean, you smell like hospital. But I think we saw in her, like, the true magic and potential. And when they fired her, like, it was a choice. And so for her to, like, now really be seen for the reality star, I think you and I have always known these. We have always known when it was not popular. Classic us. Like, I. I genuinely, like, I love this. For her, that scene with Robert Jr. Was, like, actually Hewlett sir worthy. It was so real. It was so unplanned. Like, I'm sure she didn't know the camera crew was coming over and she was gonna find out her husband or her son had tried heroin. Like, it was so raw. But then also, did you see Robert Jr. Had, like, a little bit of, like, an Instagram drama, like, a couple of days ago.
- [41:04]
A
Not see.
- [41:05]
B
He posted an Instagram story that was just, like, a purple background with some text calling, like, the Real Housewives, like, sluts. Like, let me find exactly what he said.
- [41:17]
A
I'll reserve judgment.
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B
He took to Instagram story he shared. Anyone asking about my sobriety? It's none of your business. Then he posted a picture of his ceiling fans with the words, I love my fans, but there's a thing called personal space. By the way, all these sluts on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are not people to look up to besides my lovely mother. Just because they're rich doesn't mean they're good people. Not the sluts.
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A
Like, she didn't get the memo that.
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B
I know.
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A
It's just, like, not a word.
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B
No, that's not what we're. That's what we're doing, rj.
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A
That's how we're describing women in mass.
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B
So. But with, like, holding space for two truths, like, that was really crazy of Robert Jr. I'm just gonna. Not gonna give him a pass, per se, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna go easy on him because he has been through a lot and focus more on the Rihanna here. It's so funny how, like, Rihanna has really never wavered in her Bravo stand. I'm like, she was obsessed with it. Like, before Bravo definitely reached a peak, like, a couple of years ago, where, like, maybe a scandal type year, like, where everyone was like, bravo, Bravo. Like, I love Bravo. And like, before that, like, if you were a Bravo fan, like, it was just, like, a hobby we all picked up, and it was not, like, it was mainstream, but it wasn't, like, huge.
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A
Yeah, but not before. Not scandal not being the peak, though, because I would say. But I understand what you're saying. Yes. Yes.
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B
And Rihanna has really been a part of. That's why it's always. It was always such a big deal. Like, now everyone talks about Bravo, but in the beginning, when. When she was talking about Tom Schwartz and his toothbrush.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That was, like, so niche. Like, Vanderpump Rules was a popular show, of course, but it was not a part of the Zeitgeist in the way that it is now. And she's really stuck around for so many years. Like, I. We don't hear from her for a while, and it's like, oh, maybe she's moved on from Bravo.
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A
No, no, she has not. She literally watches everything.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And, like, I think now, especially when celebrities go and watch what happens live, they're like, yeah. I'm like, I love Bravo. And they have, like, one show that they like, but there are certain celebrities, like, and Rihanna's one of them who, like, from the beginning, have watched every single franchise.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I forget who was telling me this, but, like, within the certain franchises, they know of celebrities, like, who? Maybe we don't know, but I think they were saying that Beyonce. I think I'm talking, like, Phaedra once loves the Real Housewives of Atlanta. And, like, for them, like, seriously. And Beyonce obviously doesn't call them up like Rihanna does, but it's the most thrilling. Like, there's nobody more exciting than it could have been than Beyonce, you know?
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A
Yeah.
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B
So there are a lot of, like, famous Bravo liberties, but Rihanna definitely takes the cake.
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A
Yeah, she definitely does. So I thought that was nice. I'm happy for Mary.
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B
I'm happy for Mary, too. It's nice to see, like, everybody propping up Mary because they were hard on her for, like, and, like, she did not deserve it, but they didn't see in her the potential.
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A
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?
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B
What number four. No, I'm not ready.
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A
She's not ready. She better.
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B
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Thank you Open Turt.
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B
You're welcome. It's Been a pleasure opening for you.
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A
Our next story is little podcast news. A new podcast, actually, that we hadn't even talked about. A celebrity joining the podcast sphere. Kristin Davis launched a podcast.
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B
Oh, you know what?
- [48:44]
A
I saw this called are you a Charlotte? And she's been doing it a couple weeks now, but she shared us story t filled. Except for that she didn't name the person. She talks about how she was ghosted by a very.
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B
Kristen Davis played Charlotte on Sex in the City. For anyone who doesn't. Yeah, I think it's Kirsten.
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A
No, it's Kristen. I'm looking at it straight in the face.
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B
She's such a.
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A
She's such a Kirsten. Right, Kristen, though. But I totally agree with you that there's a Kirsten Ness. Kirsten.
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B
Yeah, there's sort of a genus Kirsten.
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A
But it's K R. I s just want you to know, according to what I'm looking at, so it's Kristen. So she has a podcast called are you a Charlotte? Which I think is like kind of a random name, but. Okay.
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B
Yeah, like. Okay, can we just talk about that briefly? Because I had thoughts on it too, because I. I like the. The play on. That's a question people get asked, like, I'm such a Charlotte or it's not a title.
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A
No. And like, unless she's having guests on every week and they evaluate that person's guests behavior, that level of Charlotte, and she declares whether or not there is Charlotte, I don't see how this title applies.
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B
Also, is it a Sex in the city recap podcast or is it Kirsten Davis's podcast?
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A
I do think it is Kirsten Davis's podcast and not.
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B
So it's an even worse name and.
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A
Not a recap podcast, but let me just confirm that.
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B
Yeah, like if you just go to the show page, like, what's the description?
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A
Yeah, I think I have to go break my phone out. One second.
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B
No, I got it, I got it.
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A
I'm on the podcast, but I don't think it's a recap. Watch. It's a recap.
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B
I mean, is it a just a show where they talk about. Are you a Charlotte? 1997 actress Christine Forever.
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A
Oh, the description.
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B
Now she wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes together with Kristen and special guests. What will begin with sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. Are you a Charlotte? Is much more than re watching this beloved show. It brings the past and the present together. As we talk with heart, humor, and, of course, optimism. Okay, so it is Sex in the City coded. Like, it's. It's. It's. It's a formal. Maybe not a rewatch show, but a affiliated podcast.
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A
Yes, I agree. So having a Sex in the City theme title would be fine, but are you a Charlotte again? Unless they're analyzing the Charlottes of a bunch of different people, like, doesn't really make the most sense.
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B
I completely agree. I just want to just come up with a better one.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I don't know. I'm. I'm trying to think.
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A
Like, they had months, and, like, we just have these three seconds. Like, like 30. I get 10 seconds sometimes.
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B
It's so true.
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A
Anyways, back to the story. She revealed that a very successful actor once ghosted her after she lent him $5,000. She described that.
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B
Oh, gee.
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A
She described him as an out of work actor whom she began dating before he became a household name. She said, I think this was before Sex and the City, maybe between Melrose and Sex and the City, or maybe when I was on Melrose. I don't know. She said that while the actor is now very successful at the time and very talented, she spotted bill notices at his home from companies threatening to shut off his electricity at the time that they were dating. And I was like, what's happening? And then I think he wrecked his motorcycle, which is, like how he got around to his auditions. So she was like, can I lend you some money? Horrible mistake, she said. She said lending the actor money changed the dynamic between them in a horrible way. But I just thought, like, I can help. I should help this guy, right? He's so talented, which he is. Lend him money. I think it was all of $5,000. A lot of money. Me. She said the man stopped calling her after her nice gesture. So she popped up at his apartment and started banging on his door. She said his dog was in there, and I loved his dog, and I could hear his dog, but I was like, is he in there pretending that he's not in there? She said the actor called her later on and asked whether she had been banging on the door. And she was like, well, yes. She felt so embarrassed, like, being messy. She said, I would just love some acknowledgment or whatever, which is kind of a fantasy. She never disclosed who the actor was. She said he now lives out of the. Out in the country with some children. Get to work.
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B
Okay, well, can you tell me what year this was?
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A
So between Melrose and Sex and the.
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B
City, what Year does, I think.
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A
Can you Google what year Sex and the City started?
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B
But also, by the way, do you know that she dated John Travolta?
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A
Yeah, but he was already big. He didn't need her money.
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B
Oh, and you know, she dated Chris Knoth. That's like an underrated. She dated big while the series was on.
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A
Oh, I didn't realize that.
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B
1998 is when sex and the City. So let's say a little boyfriend. 1997, you know.
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A
Yeah, but if he wasn't a famous person.
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B
But they would have been spotted together because she was. She was a famous person. So let me just go to her complete dating history, because she also dated. Here are her official boyfriends. Ready? This is the 80s. And. Oh, she did a Leah Schreiber in 2000.
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A
No, too late.
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B
All of these are late. But she dated interesting people. She did alec Baldwin in 2001, Jeff Goldblum in 2002. Damian Lewis in 2003. Rick Fox. I don't know who that is. And do you know who she dated for three years in 2012?
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A
Who?
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B
Aaron Sorkin. She's also rumored to have hooked up with Steve Martin. Do you think that could be it? He would never.
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A
No. And he had money.
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B
Oh, he was. And he was famous by then.
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A
Yeah. He didn't get famous until after 1998. Who now lives in the country with his kids. And the thing is, I feel like she should have told us who it was, because it's just like a funny story. And.
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B
And it's like, girl, you're trying to make your podcast pop off, we spill tea.
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A
That's what you do on the podcast, you know?
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B
Yeah. Okay. Also, like, the Internet investigators, like, we'll figure this out.
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A
I don't know. Might be pre Internet. There might not be a digital footprint of them having been together.
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B
Like, not even on a red carpet or anything. I guess not. I really want to know who it is.
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A
Yeah, me too. Like, that just would have been, like, innocuous and whatever. And maybe she would have gotten her money back eventually.
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B
Well, that's the thing. Like, it's ever too late. There's no expiration date on letting somebody.
- [54:41]
A
However, it has to be adjusted for inflation plus interest.
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B
Okay, so, like, what was $5,000 in the 90s? Honestly? Like, 10.
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A
Yeah. Plus interest on, like, if that was a loan from a bank, like, 25 years.
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B
Yikes. 20.
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A
Give her the house.
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B
But Kristen seems like, you know, she's making money off the story now, so she just wants her initial investment back. The 5K. And look, she. By the way, if we're really gonna go. She also, like, was helping this guy go to auditions and stuff. So she's kind of like an early investor in his career. If he's now worth, you know, millions of dollars, she is owed a percentage.
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A
I agree.
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B
So if you want to get technical about it, you could.
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A
Anyways. Funny. Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into a TV recap?
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B
It's. Yes, but I just have a question. Are you a Charlotte? Definitely.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Who are you?
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B
I am such a Miranda. And actually, I won't bore you guys, because I say this all the time, and I literally wrote a chapter about, in my book, that's how strongly I feel about it. Growing up, like, Miranda was deeply misunderstood. I think, like, a lot of us judged her by the fact that, like, she never, you know, wore cool clothes and her hair was terrible the entire series. But, like, if you watch it now as an adult who, like, you know, has aspirations of building businesses and families and paying bills, like, you understand, like, she was such a real one, and she saw the world for what it was like, her and Carrie Rose, like, oh, we're so cynical. Meanwhile, Carrie's so fucking delusional. She was the only one who had her feet planted in reality. She was the first to, like, buy her own apartment. She went to Harvard Law. She was like, a woman in business. Like, we all clown on her. I'm sorry if I had to recreate the lives of any of them. Like, sorry. Charlotte's life is amazing, but it wasn't sustainable. Samantha's was kind of filled with treachery and drama, cancer. And then Carrie was just the fucking worst. So, yeah, I'm a Miranda. And I. I hate that I have to give this speech when I say it's because it has connotations.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I need Cynthia Nixon to start a podcast. Are you a Miranda?
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A
She should do that. That would be very funny. I also. I haven't watched the new show, so I don't know, like, if I'm still a Charlotte, but in the old show, Sex and the City, like, they're in their 30s. So am I. So, like, Charlotte in her 30s. Like, it's most akin to me in my 30s.
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B
I also think the new show was, like, so crazy, and it's like, I actually enjoy it, but it doesn't. To me, the four characters and their personalities are set in stone from the OG show and the movies. Yeah. I don't think, like, the new personality traits, because Miranda is So different now.
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A
Like, are you a Miranda in and just like that.
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B
Honestly, I'm kind of a free spirit, like, to be honest. But no, because, like, I would never look at someone like Che and be like, oh, yeah, I want to spend time with you. Like, that's just. That's just not me. But they. They almost, like. And Carrie, too, is, like, so different. She's like, like, normal and smart. It's like, that's not Carrie. Yeah, they're undoing. They're doing undoing a lot of, like, the character development. So I don't think you can't take anything from the new show when considering, like, the four personalities.
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A
Because I don't watch. I've seen clips.
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B
Oh, and Samantha's not in it.
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A
Right. Okay, cool, Cool. Maybe I should go on Kristen Davis's podcast and she can assess, evaluate for my evaluation.
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B
Totally.
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A
Our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap. Garcelle was spotted by TMZ doubling down on the lesbian comment that she made to Kyle Richards on the show, saying that it was in no way malicious because it was last week. She asked Kyle, like, in a sweet moment at Chuck E. Cheese, eating old pizza, she was like, if you want to be a lesbian, be a lesbian. And she said it in, like, a supportive way, and it was a supportive environment.
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B
It wasn't like, a contentious conversation.
- [58:10]
A
And in a way, to me, and I do think, like, Garcelle can be extremely malicious in a way that felt actually not malicious at all.
- [58:15]
B
Agreed.
- [58:16]
A
However, Kyle on the Beverly Hills after show called Garcelle an. For that she did not like that.
- [58:23]
B
Kyle is just on a downward spiral. Like, she's so. Everything she says is wrong.
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A
Like, so then Garcelle was perplexed by this strong reaction, given they had a good laugh about it during the show. Like, everyone was happy she said so for her to say that was pretty shady, but, you know.
- [58:38]
B
Yeah. Well, these two have, like, actually a really deep, dark history of never getting along. And I think that sometimes, like, especially in the beginning, like, Kyle was putting up with Garcelle because she literally had no other friends, and she needed to be around Sutton, who was her only ally, and therefore Garcelle, like, was around. But these two, like, hate each other, so it's not shocking. And I. I do want to say I feel like I'm the first one to call out, like, Garcelle for being. I made her my weenie of the week, like, a couple of months ago. Like, she's not always right. Like, sometimes I feel like there's certain housewives who I trust implicitly. Like, they're always right. I don't feel that way about Garcelle, but every now and then, she, like, serves it up. And that was actually, I'm sure, like, as a viewer, I wanted her to say it, but I'm sure as somebody who's had to experience that whole thing, like. Like, we're just not. We're not even allowed to say Morgan's name now. Like, we like to be on the show.
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A
They were getting tattoos together on the show. It's not like she hadn't been on the show. And I also. I was thinking that last night, I feel like people fall into a pattern where they have their favorite. And then they're like, that person's always right. And then they don't. Like, in the next situation, they're just like, oh, this person's right. Because I always think that they're right. They don't actually evaluate, like, the rightness of the situation. And just because someone that you think is, like, right most of the time, like, it doesn't mean that you could just, like, blanket. Not check in with what they're doing.
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B
That's how I'm, like, kind of like, feeling with last night's episode. Like, Erica. Yeah. She's in this weird place where up until this point, like, I've so, like, I kind of been resting on my laurels. I'm like, yeah, whatever Erica says, I agree with. But then, like, she was. And I understand, like, when everybody's ganging and she doesn't have beef with Kyle, she maybe probably leans more towards Dorit in this argument, but she doesn't have beef with Kyle. So when you see someone who you like, are friends with, like, having a breakdown, her running after her and telling her, like, you didn't do anything wrong. Sure. Okay, whatever. Like, I can understand how that's you actually being a good friend, but in her confessionals, and. And she's sort of, like, not backing down on this whole Mauricio text thing about. And the Kyle did do something wrong. Like, that's just sort of a fact. And. And Dorit says Erica's taking Kyle's side because she's afraid of Kyle. And I've actually never seen. And I know that dynamic, like, when Kyle's an og. There have definitely been women who are like, weenies, and they're don't speak up for to their friends because they have power in the circle of production. I've never thought that about Erica, and I don't think that about Erica.
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A
I've never thought that about Erica. I'm gonna look out for it now, and maybe there's more that we will uncover, but that's not what I thought was happening. I feel like Erica just really wants to give everyone the benefit of the doubt because of how she was treated, which she's bigger than me because I'd be like, you should all because I'm.
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B
Coming for everyone and I for an eye.
- [61:02]
A
It's actually so crazy that, that. That she's able to be that big and now not want to see anyone.
- [61:06]
B
That's how healed she is.
- [61:08]
A
That's what healed people do. So I think that's more where she's coming from, like, someone storming out. And also Kyle, though I disagree with her on all counts. And I'm with Dorit1 because, like, Dorit's my girl, but also because I, I. I'm also factually, you know, checking internally, oh, how do I feel about dirty doing this or that? And I'm with her. Kyle's going through a hard time, too, and, like, a lot of different crises. So it's not like she's just like, this big bad person who's, like, picking on the weakest one. Like, she's also of the weak ones because she's going through a hard time in her personal life and also just in herself. So I am inclined not to, like, rush to judgment, but something weird is going on, and it's also making it hard as a viewer, because I feel like there's a lot of things we don't know. Even during saying last night, like, well, you do talk about PK to me conversations. Like, there's. That's just something that we didn't know. Even last episode, when Dori keeps saying, it's not just memes and joke. It's not just memes and jokes. It's like, well, why do you think. Even though it's not, why do you think that so strongly? What do you know?
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B
Yeah. Now a couple of things. When Kyle was reading the text, she's like, I'm gonna do it one last time. And she, like, when she gets, like, the problematic lines, she, like, kind of slows down. I think it was the first time ever she. She saw herself flick from the outside a little bit because it wasn't the way you would read something that's, like, totally innocent now.
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A
You don't think she behaved in her defense. You don't think she slowed down because she, in herself, knew it was about production and she's saying it in front of them. Like, and she's outing herself as having kept things from production, if you. If you believe what she said.
- [62:39]
B
Okay, but just saying, sure, she's keeping things from production, but, like, why do her and pk, like, have secrets? What are they? Like, what the hell are they talking about? Like, they need to be a little bit more clear. I hate when we get into, like, this murky housewives territory where, like, you can't say the thing. It's like, what is it?
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
Now, the second thing and, like, kind of the most glaring from last night's episode was, like, Kyle's breakdown, which I understand that she's, like, really going through a hard time. And it's hard when, like, people just call you out, like, so outright. Like, I love that about Bose, but it was such amateur housewife behavior. Like, that was not the behavior of somebody who's been on a show for 15 years. But that's sort of the Kyle Richards way. Like, she's never really been at the center of things. And that was Lisa Vanderpump's, like, one of her gripes with her. But, like, she orchestrates a lot. And she is a passerbyer, but, like, not since season one limo has she really been in the center of things. So just to see her have such a breakdown when the conversation was not contentious, it was just brought up and.
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A
To really automatically being very open and she wasn't bringing that energy from the Viper Room of, like, slaying dragons. Like, she just wanted to hear and she was in a place of just, like, having even the fact that she was the one who went outside and calm Kyle down is just, like, so crazy when she's the one who's been wronged.
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B
I loved how before and Bo set up such a party afternoon. Like, that was seriously just a great way to spend the day. Oh, my God. And Jennifer Tilly. What did she say that made me laugh so hard? Hold on. Do you know what I'm talking about?
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A
Maybe.
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B
Okay, whatever. She said something so funny. I was cracking up. Whatever.
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A
Rose is pargy afternoon.
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B
It was this party afternoon. Oh, when before the blow up, Dorit just sort of shuffled on over to Garcelle and they had, like, that kind of nice moment. Like, I. I know they can't. Like, they seriously are just two opposite sides of a coin. I would love for them to see eye to eye and just, like, be cool with one another. Like, I actually think they would get along.
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A
I don't know if they would get along is the thing. Like, I think they could actually be cool with one another, but I think the moment that they start, like, hanging out one on one, like, Garcelle just doesn't like Dorit's personality and doesn't know how to say that to her in a way that's just not hurtful, because that's just a hurtful thing to say. Like, she doesn't want to talk to Dorito. He talks too much. Like, I think them just having respect for one another but not interfacing too much is, like, the best way for it to go.
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B
I remember the Jennifer Tilly thing. Like, she could not pronounce memes. The mems. Oh, in the back of the car. Oh, my God, I was cracking up so hard. That was, like, the first time I was like, you know what, Jennifer Tilly, you could stay.
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A
Lol.
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B
Sit down. So while it was kind of a slow episode in the sense that, like, nothing really, like, happened. And I feel like they've been teasing this walk off in Bose's backyard since the beginning, and I'm like, this was it. And, like, it wasn't unimportant. But, like, is that like, the kind of, like, the peak of the season? Yeah, because they keep teasing it, and.
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A
Where do we go from here in terms of, like, what's their left to dig up? Like, is there more to this story? Because Dorit and then they had their facials, and Dorate, like, really thinks that there's more. And. Yeah, I just, like, I don't know. Maybe there is, but I just. I. I can't conceive how that's possible. I really. And also, Kyle keeps saying, like, I'm a girl's girl. I'll always have your back. But, like, here she is, like, telling pk, like, I would never repeat the things that you said. And she also says in her confessionals, like, yeah, why wouldn't I take pk? Like, when Dori treats me like this, like, it's very.
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B
No, Kyle is not a girl's girl. Like, for your friend to tell you that, like, her husband, like, behind closed doors, was a monster.
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A
Oh, my God, that was crazy.
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B
And. And you say, oh, I can't picture it, both to her face and in your confessional, like, that was so crazy.
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A
In her confessional. And then she was like, but I've seen it in Dorit. Excuse. I'm so glad you brought that up. I've literally forgotten this part of the episode. Her saying that she always thought Dorit wore the pants in their relationship. What? Like, I feel like it's PK show. It's PK's money, it's PK's house life that Dorit has kind of, like, walked into and made her own. Like, PK calls the shots.
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B
Yeah. No, and it's like, no matter what you think, we all know this is what happens. Like, when a marriage implodes is, like, you really see what was going on. So most of the time, unless someone's marriage is perfect and they're open and honest with you all the time, most of the time. It's not until somebody gets divorced that you really realize what was going on behind closed doors. Erica, Jade. So, like, have you never met anyone divorced Kyle? Like, yeah. You thought one thing, but it was the other. Like, that's always what happens.
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A
Right.
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B
It was just also, like, such a mean thing to say. Like, oh, really? Like, you were verbally abused by your husband.
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A
I can't picture it.
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B
That's.
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A
So I was gonna say, like, I actually like PK on the show. I think he's really funny, and he has a lot of personality, and me too. But I could see it. Yeah, I could see it.
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B
Especially, like, it was. They weren't, like, spelling it out for us, but there have been a couple of things, especially, like, the DUI and then when he, like, crashed into a tree and then, like, drove home or whatever, and then them slowly, like, opening up test that he is an alcoholic. Like, people, like, when they're not themselves, like, they do and say crazy things. So, yeah, I actually can also, like.
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A
They did therapy on the show last season, and he's telling her that she needs to get move on from the robbery quick. Or, like, it's not like, he's been, like, overtly kind because that's never been his way. He's been honest, very honest on the show. But you could also see how behind the scenes, when you can even be more honest, that, like, things could be a little bit darker. I. I actually don't think it's that crazy to picture.
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B
No. And these are just, like. These are people we don't know. These are like Hollywood marriages. Like, yeah, like, definitely crazy goes on the Kyle. Like, you've lived in this town your whole life. You work too hard for the zip code to go. You don't know that, like, this is what happens in, like, crazy marriages. Like. Like, it. Seriously, it was like, it was conceivable to me. And I'm just a viewer.
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A
Right.
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B
She was just being a. Honestly, I could see Dorit doing that.
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A
Oh, she was. I. I didn't watch who was on Watch what happens Live last night.
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B
It was the Real Houses of New York finale. So I think somebody from Real Houses in New York, and I'm.
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A
I'm not sure because usually, like, after the episode, I'll watch. Watch what happens live and then you get, like, fan votes, and so I can see, like, how people are feeling. But I watched it so late last. Last night, I just went to sleep. So, like, are people all shook up about that? Because that was really crazy.
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B
I always. My favorite thing when I'm done with an episode is to go to Twitter just because, like, I love to see what people are saying. And, yeah, people were gooped and gagged. That's like, so. Because it's. It's such a crazy thing to say while also telling everyone every other minute that you're a girl's girl, right?
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A
Not. Not girls.
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B
Girls just ride for their friends.
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A
Like, and then at the end of the episode, Sutton Strack has decided to enter the chat to throw her hat in the ring. So crazy. Like, I'm not. She's so mad that Kyle's torn off. I'm not gonna back. Like, she. Now she's taking on Kyle. Like, like, what?
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B
No, but she was also, like, she's not letting Kyle rest. Like, when the conversation started last night about the text messages, she literally got up and sat down and was like, what are we talking about? Oh, yeah, you said more than that. Like, she. And then also when they were playing tennis. What do you mean, Mo cheated on you? Like, she's like, not. And it's. She's really Kyle's, like, only friend, but she's not even her friend. Like, she's not ever helping.
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A
She's not a good friend. At the beginning of this season, she apologized to Kyle for being so hard on her last season and demanding answers. And now she's, like, doing that again. And I do think a lot of it is, like, show stuff. Like, she doesn't want to get left out of the storyline of the show. But I also think she's a bit shrewder than that. And she really is pissed that, like, she didn't get to walk out of the Chippendales, but Kyle gets to walk out of spa day. Yeah, okay, sure.
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B
It was. It was such. It was actually such a blown out of proportion, like, dramatic walk off. It made her look, like, really silly, in my opinion.
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A
Yeah, no, she. And the.
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B
Oh. And then she gets in the car, and the thing that she says is, like, I just can't believe Jarita's, like, Trying to make this a thing to distract from, like, what she did to me. And I'm like, wait, what did she do to you?
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A
Right? And she said of her being a bad friend.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's her big.
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A
That's the big thing.
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B
I was like, it's not a big conspiracy. Like, she really. She's unable to see herself as the villain here. And I think, like, if you're not able to, like, really criticize or just, like, take a look at yourself and, like, see what takes two people to tangle. Yeah, it's. This is like a fruitless.
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A
No, that was so crazy. Drew did not muster up or conjure up this situation was actually the other women. And it could have so easily turned out to be, like, memes and jokes and a whole nothing burger. And then it wasn't. And when your friend is getting divorced, like, you don't really need to be asked to stop. To not talk to her husband with the husband.
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B
And even when shit's, like, going well, like in an amicable divorce, such as Kyla Mauricio, Dorit's not texting Mauricio. Like, it's still inappropriate. But when things have been so bad and she's saying, like, you know, we're co parenting badly, like, that's even worse. Like, it's like, kyle, are you new to this planet, let alone this town?
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A
Like, wife swap. That's how every.
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B
It's time for Dorit Mauricio to get together.
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A
Every recap of ours, of Beverly Hills ends.
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B
It's true, by the way. It's true. Like, Kyle's like, actually pushing them closer together. But the thing is, is that Kyla Mauricio's divorce is up until, as far as we know, like, it's pretty amicable. Like, he would never do that. He goes in with his Dancing with the Stars. Sure, but these aren't Kyle's friends. Like, and he's allowed to move on.
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A
Yeah, but then, like, then they're. They're divorcing and he was in the ocean with that lady and like, Mykonos. I'm waiting for, like, those Mykonos pictures to drop on the show. I guess.
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B
But by the way, like, Kyle's had a girlfriend for a year. Like, what are we talking about?
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A
I don't know.
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B
She literally had a relationship.
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A
I don't know. It's. Yeah, it's confusing.
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B
Yeah. So that is the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap. Tomorrow is my last Thursday, depending on if the air conditioning heat system is working.
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A
Like, we'll see a Thursday. I do love a Thursday.
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B
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A
Love you.
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B
Okay, hold on.
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A
Watching you. Okay, love you.
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B
Bye.