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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Congrats to all the grads for graduating the week. We have made it to the latter half of the week. The week is almost over.
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Congratulating.
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What? No, wait, I'm sorry.
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Congratulating.
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What was that?
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Congratulating for graduating Wednesday. I can't say you've graduated the week yet. That's like being in the end of your sophomore year and saying, like, I feel like.
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Okay, no, no, this is what it is. You haven't graduated, per se, but you're on your way to the ceremony.
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No, it's the beginning of your junior year. I graduated.
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No, it's not the beginning of your junior year because it's four years and it's five days. I would say you're at the end of your junior year. How about that?
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Okay. Okay.
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Because Friday is definitely the senior year.
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Hundred percent.
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So I guess that would make Thursday, like, the end of junior year, because.
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It'S five, which is also a good feeling. Like, I feel like junior year in.
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It depends. Have you gotten into college? Have you gotten into college yet? Like, no.
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Junior year in high school, and you don't get to college in junior year. You do senior year. But have you. You're taking junior year is a hard year. So the end of junior year, honestly, like, you've graduated from junior year, like.
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The toughest is behind you. And that's kind of very Thursday energy, 100%. Okay. Glad we figured that out. So happy Thursday, everyone. Welcome back.
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Feels like the end of junior year.
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It does. What?
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What's everyone doing this summer?
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What were you, like, your junior year? Let's talk high school.
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We're talking high school. Ooh, dark times, my friend. Yeah, that was a rough time in my life because, like, we had just moved. Our father passed my junior year, so.
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I was like, yikes. I don't think that's true.
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Our sophomore year, actually.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Because I was a freshman. So what? We were two grades.
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We were. But, like, sophomore and junior year are really a blur for me because it was, like, both hard years. So I'm just, like, struggling to, like, stay afloat junior year, you know?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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However, senior year, like, things definitely got brighter. Like, I lost a little weight.
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Always helps.
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Always helps. A bad situation.
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No, actually, like, I'm. I'm noticing from the time, like, before we took winter break to the time after winter break, like, I really have significantly, in my opinion, changed, like, being on camera every day, like, I can't even watch our clips. Like, I know, it's all happening, it's all good. But like, I'm definitely like fat now and I've had that again too, which is like even more complex.
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Well, a number of things to say. Like one, at least you have an excuse. Like, I look different from winter break and it's like just inflammation as they say. I've started taking turmeric every day. That's how desperate I feel.
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Different. But you don't look different.
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Well, I would have said, oh, thanks, Turtle. That's really sweet, except I weighed myself this morning and the numbers don't lie. The girls are climbing. However, I'm doing everything right. I'm doing my sakara, I'm drinking my water, I'm having my protein shakes. Like I'm staying active like you. It's not going to change in three days. So like, you just have to be consistent about it. I shouldn't have even weighed myself because it like brought moral morale down when like, I was feeling a little less inflamed.
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There is something exciting even like if you're not actively like seeing any results. Getting on the, the train.
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I'm on the path. I'm on the right path. That'll do everything I should be doing. I'm really sticking to like my resolutions. No matter how many times I have to pee during the day. This is my first cup of coffee of the day. Usually I'm almost done with my second. So we're practicing better habits and now we just. Now we wait. We got to put in the work. It doesn't happen overnight. I feel like everyone just thinks, oh, I had a good day.
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Yeah, if only it were that I.
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Gotta live this way for a while. So at least I'm. I'm on the train, as you said.
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I went out to dinner last night to like one of my favorite Italian spots with Ben and his parents. And you know, when I recommend a restaurant, like, I take it, I don't really. I'm not like a restaurant recommender. Just know what I mean?
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No, I. I do. Neither am I.
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And so all week everybody was like, where should we go? Where should we go? And everybody defers to me cuz like, you know, I made Everybody eat at 6:00 and I'm very particular, like, so they were like, where does Charity want to go? Where does ch want to go? So I decided, you know, on this place. And it's a place that I like and it's actually a place that I love. And I just felt like Ben was committed to disliking It. Do you know what I mean? Because tell me, who orders this? And of course he didn't like it. He ordered the artichoke and pistachio ravioli. Like, what?
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That is something that you order for the table to try. That's no one's main dish. That's like, oh, that sounds interesting. Like, let's all have a bite and try that. That's not a meal.
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No. Ben and his dad split two different raviolis.
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Okay, okay. What was.
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They're both ravioli.
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Okay. But was the other one like sauce and cheese?
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No, it was white. It looked like an Alfredo. It's just crazy to have two raviolis which ravioli is like. It's a risk.
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I just feel like Ben shouldn't be eating Alfredo. Like, I know he's not allergic, but he should treat it.
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Do you not know Ben's chicken Alfredo story?
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I do. And that's why he should never eat Alfredo again. Not. And he's not allergic. He just had, like, a really bad reaction. And like, he should treat Alfredo as if he's allergic.
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It's actually a really good point. I treat Alfredo if I'm as if I'm allergic. One, because I think it's disgusting. And two, the sheer image of it, even the word reminds me of that Ben story. And I immediately lose my appetite. It's kind of.
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I don't do an appetite creamy white. I don't do creamy white.
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Jackie. I said that at dinner last night. Ben was like, try this ravioli. You might like it. I said, like, white sauce in me. Like, we creamy. Yeah. We as a cream based sauce, we are not simpatico with one another.
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I don't do like a white clam chowder. I don't add that, like, disgusting mushroom can into my cream of mushroom. Into like, I don't do white creamy. I do red creamy.
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I love red creamy.
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I don't do white cream. No.
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Both of Ben's raviolis that showed up were white creamy base. And so, like, when the meal was done, like, actually everybody liked the restaurant, which made me feel good. But Ben was like. And I'm like, well, if I went to a restaurant and ordered the worst thing on the menu, I also would think it's okay. Like, why can't you just be normal? Like, everybody got normal things. Like, I got a salmon pizza. Like, it's like, it's like a seraphina type of cuisine. So, like modern, you know, Italian. Why don't you get like a pasta, a fish, like a normal person.
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Yeah, you can't Judge the restaurant based on their special.
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It wasn't even a special. It was just like a crazy ass dish.
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Even though I think some people say that you should judge a restaurant based on their special. But that would not displace me. This is a. And also, like, not me. Like, I'm a consistent, like regular three things on the menu, sort of. I'm judging by the Caesar salad and the salmon and the french fries.
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Fun fact about me, I have never. And I. I want to say that confidently, probably will never in my life. Order off of the specials menu.
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No, I see.
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It does not apply to me. And actually in my award winning comedy special, I had a whole bit about this because it's so awkward when they come over and tell you. Like, they come over and I want to be rude. I'm just gonna be, seriously, don't waste your breath.
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Like, like there should be a section or like a placard you could put up, like reserved or it's like not interested in specials. Knows what she's ordering. Always gets the same thing.
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And like, even Ben, who's really experimental, so many of the times, like 75% of the specials we can't eat because it's like pork or shellfish. So I kind of, I never want to be rude, but I just want to put my hand up and be like, seriously, don't bother.
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Like, like, save your breath.
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It's a lot of work for them to like all that. Like, seriously, scram. Where do.
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Like, I don't know where to look.
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Yeah. And. And every now and then they say, do you want to hear the specials? And I think that we should embrace that more in restaurant culture.
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Cuz.
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No, I don't.
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Yeah.
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And I know you. You don't want to tell me either.
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What if like that night, this special is like chicken nuggets and French fries.
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But it's like the thing is, like, what if? What? But it's not.
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I know.
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You know?
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I know. I always am like, yummy.
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Oh, my God. And you always want to engage the surf and turf.
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Yum.
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It's so rude when people are like scrolling on their bones or like not listening. It's so rude. So even though there is seriously not, you couldn't pay me to order one singular thing. I'm listening so intently, I'm like, oh, is that grilled or baked? Like, who gives a right? I am so.
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Because how's that prepared?
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It's so rude not to. And I'm always like, oh, Ben, you would like that. Like, I'm just It's kind of like a skit for me. It's snl. Totally.
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I always say, my husband. Oh, my God, you love scallops.
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I was like, oh, write that down. Like, yeah, Ben, clock that. Like, I'm.
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Yeah. If nothing else looks good.
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And Ben, like, doesn't take it as seriously as I do. Like, the commitment to the, like, engaging in the bit. It's just.
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I think that's just being a woman and being a people pleaser. It's so gendered.
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It's me being an empath.
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1,000%.
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Yeah. I feel things so deeply.
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1,000%.
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Oh. I don't know how we got here, but I had a great dinner.
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You went to a restaurant?
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Yeah. And it's. I. I don't really love eating out these days, but I try to eat out, like, once a week because Dr. Fox told me to have salmon once a week, and I can't have salmon at home. Like, it's just. It goes against everything I believe in.
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It's really pretty good. If you have. Yeah. If you've got a good fishmonger, like, I'll send you the seasoning. I put on a little spray with olive oil. The seasoning that I like. So good.
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No.
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For a month.
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Reasons I can't.
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You can cook it, like, to a crisp the way we like.
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No, I can't.
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I know the smell in your house is probably the reason.
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The smell is huge. And also, these days, I'm actually trying to be a really good neighbor because I have big plans for the rest of the year in terms of, like, not being a good neighbor because I refuse to bring a stroller into my house. Like, the hallway will be my own personal stroller garage. And so I've really been.
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Gotta get your karma up.
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Yes. And my next door neighbors have two wiener dog puppies that are seriously. Like, I could hear them barking in my sleep. I haven't said a word. Like, I am going to be such a delight.
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Yeah.
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Because also, like, the room that I think will be the baby's room, like, pushes right up against, I think, their master bedroom.
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They'll be hearing there'll be a lot.
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Of noise if I start cooking salmon. That's like a demerit in my column when I'm trying to get gold stars with the neighbors. Oh, speaking of gold stars, is the School of Rock story a story today? It is. Okay, good, good, good.
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It is a story.
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Oh. Not a story, but need to talk about, like, oh, my God. Me and Ben, when we both woke up, we were glued to our phones. Like overnight, so much bad news and like so much crazy footage coming out of LA and the California wildfire. So I don't know, like, it seems like there's no end in sight and I think that they were making a lot of progress yesterday. And then overnight new fires in Hollywood Hills, which is like where, you know, a lot of people live. It's like a lot of high rise buildings, a lot of houses was engulfed in flames. So it seriously never ends. It's a show watching. It's so sad. It's like it's the only thing on my phone.
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No, I think the last thing I saw, I don't know how recent was, but it's like 0% contained because like the winds are so strong they can't fight it from the sky, which they need to do for a fire like the Santa Ana wins. But it's like, it's so sad and heartbreaking and agreed, I'm like glued to my phone and it's everything that I'm seeing. But it's also so frustrating because you're seeing like how many things have gone wrong and how unprepared the city was when like this is the big thing that they have to worry about. And I just feel so bad for the people that live there and how frustrated and heartbroken they are when a lot of this was preventable. Not the entire thing, as you see this happens often, but the scale that it's, there's no infrastructure, the budget cuts for fire department, no water in the hydrants. Your biggest threat to your city is fires and there's no water in the reservoir for the hydrants.
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It's just, it's actually disgraceful. Ms.
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Graceful.
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It's negligent and it's criminally negligent. Like seriously, when all this is said and done, like investigation, I feel really, obviously I think a lot of people are having a hard time, you know, empathizing because you look at LA Hollywood and you're like, oh, it's just rich people. And it's actually really not especially. Like if you look at just the suburbs of the Palisades that have been completely wiped out, just regular people and it's regular, you know, there are poor areas, there are rich areas, there are people who have lost fire insurance. Like, it's really devastating. And it's not just like celebrities who can build their houses back and even people who can build their houses back, like that's years of memories. And your family, like, it's just devastating and there's so many different Things to think about. Like, then you think about, like, you know, all the forestation and all the animals, like, fleeing with nowhere to go. It's just. It literally is. It's too sad to even think about. It's. It's biblical. The video, like, the sky. It's so. I don't even know what the right word is.
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And I think at this point, there's, like, really no one in that area who's not affected by it because it just keeps growing and going into places where they don't experience fires.
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Right.
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So a lot of celebrities have already lost their houses.
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Yeah, there's, like, a running list of, like, notable people who have lost houses, but it's beyond that. It's like thousands of just also regular people.
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Regular. Right, right, right. But as we talk about celebrities, like, that's really what's going on with celebrities. They're also, like, evacuating.
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Evacuating. Raising money. There's not a lot of, like, you know, actually, the stories aren't crazy to.
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Me that people are raising money for, like, L. A Public services because they need money when, like, L. A, they pay the highest taxes in the country.
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No, I know.
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Where is the money? No, like, where is the money?
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No, I know. And it makes you, like, so. And situations like this, like, people really, like, bad faith actors take advantage of, like, people who are just wanting to. People live. Who live here, like, who want to donate and send money for meals. And it gets so. It's so corrupt.
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They're already looting and stealing from people who have evacuated their homes. I've seen videos of people setting fires.
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No, and that's. By the way, I was. Someone was just actually telling me about this documentary about the devastation of Hurricane Katrina and how it. Literally half the devastation came in the days after it was. There was no power. There was. It was lawlessness. And it was like, the most. What's the movie? The Purge. But, like, it was really, like, crime beyond the most violent crime you could think of. Like, it's, like, the darkest days in history. People don't even talk about that when they talk about Katrina because they just talk about, like, the Katrina.
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Yeah.
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And so it's something that happens during, like, sort of chaotic times. And it's disgraceful. It's the absolute worst of humanity. And it's. It's, like, embarrassing to even be the same species as these people.
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It's so true. So, like, for people who are still in their homes, who haven't evacuated, who have lost power, it's so scary. It's Just so many different angles and levels. Like, it's just a horrible situation. It's so frustrating. And it didn't need to be this bad.
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It didn't need to be this bad. It's so true. And so everyone. I'm seeing, like, so many celebrities, like, speaking out, who are mad. If I. If I lived in la, like, I'd be mad, too. I get it.
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Yeah.
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Look at me in my congestion tax. Like, nothing's even happening to me. I'm fine.
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Right.
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So it's frustrating. And it's. It's.
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And it's so direct. Right. Because, like, these budget cuts just, they happen. Someone made that happen. Like, it's very accountability. We don't have to go searching, like, who.
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Right.
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It could be, like, it's the mayor and the governor.
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Right, right, right.
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And the people that they put in place, like, incompetence.
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It's disgraceful.
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It. Competent at best, nefarious at worst, criminally negligent.
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That's kind of.
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Yeah, that's a good.
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That's kind of my phrase of the day.
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It's a good one.
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It is. And I. I don't know where I pulled it out of. I just, like, I don't feel like I. I don't think I've ever used it before. I must have seen somebody else, like, raging about it on Instagram and copied it.
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Right. That's so.
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Okay.
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You're getting the word out.
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The stories today are good.
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They're pretty good. I think we'll have fun with them.
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Yeah. So important to have fun.
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It is important to have fun. So I feel good about that. If you want to get into them.
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Yeah, I guess we could.
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Yeah. Time flies. I can't believe. Like, I feel like we just sat down, but, yeah, no, it's time.
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That's so us.
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Except I will say the new episode of the Redheads came out. That's the other new big news of the day.
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Huge.
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Really great episode. The book is, like, a really good book, and I think a lot of people really enjoyed it, and we will, like, ruin it for you and, like, poke so many holes in the book.
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Yeah.
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But that's what we do.
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That is also kind of speaking of big episodes that came out, Jackie and I released a new episode on our Patreon last night, a video and audio episode. We haven't done, like, a Q and A in a while, and there were so many questions, like, wide ranging from, like, a lot of people freaking out about Turdi's maternity leave to just, like, random influencer, like, Type stuff. So we recorded an episode. It's out now. So if you're looking for more content to get you to graduation day, check that out@patreon.com the toast.
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That was a good episode. Like a state of the union. That's what, like, how I think of the general Q and A's. Like, catch up with your girls. Ask us anything.
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B
So good to always be checking in with one another.
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Yes, it is. So now, without further ado, da doo da do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.
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For your room, I needed a 25 in nightstand max. And so I was able to go to nightstands, 21 to 25 inches.
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Yes. But I feel like I am their commercial.
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We love.
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Yeah.
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A
What was the first sponsor?
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Wayfair. You've got just what I need.
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A
I feel like every sponsor was like my vlog.
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B
Yes, it was giving the shaggy. Not to make everything about us, but, like, it Is.
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A
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Our first story. Not to make everything about us, but it is because yesterday Claudia predicted that celebrity breakups come in threes. And the third one dropped right after we recorded. Yeah. The. Probably the biggest of the three objective celebrity, like, for the world, this is the biggest one. But not for you and I. What would you say is the biggest one for you and I? Paige and Craig.
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B
Yeah, of course. But actually, this is kind of on par with Kaia and Austin, just, like, level of celebrity wise. But this was like a Hollywood marriage that I think people really, they were like the exception to the cliche of Hollywood marriages. So that's why it's particularly shocking.
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A
Yeah. So Jessica Alba. And we should actually say who it is.
- [19:46]
B
Yeah.
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A
They know too. As we continue to allude to it, Jessica Alba and her husband, Cash Warren are separating after 16 years of marriage. Now, I just want to say, like, 16 year marriage is a success. Success.
- [19:54]
B
Agreed.
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A
In my books, they have three daughters together. Three kids, two daughters, one son, in case anyone was curious. But TMZ has reported that the two are nearing a divorce after 16 years of marriage. This is the report that they have split. I don't think this would come out of nowhere. I believe this to be true.
- [20:12]
B
As do I. Especially when TMZ reports something legal, like they're always in the courthouse. Like, it's. They've got the paperwork now. This is interesting for a multitude of reasons. One, because it was one of these Hollywood success stories that you just didn't even think about so much anymore. But also because Jessica Alba, while she is like a very successful actress, I would argue she's a more successful businesswoman. And her baby company, Honest, I believe, reached a billion dollar valuation a little while ago. So this is like a big divorce in terms of money, too. We were just talking about how, like, you know, J. Lo and Ben really amicably settled their divorce, because if you think about it, they really are probably worth equal amounts. I wouldn't say the same for Jessica Alba and her man. And that's where it gets tricky.
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A
Right. Because who is he in this world?
- [20:55]
B
Right. Cash Warren. Job.
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A
They met while she was in a movie, Fantastic Four. He was the director's assistant.
- [21:03]
B
Yeah. He's a producer now. So like I said, different tax brackets.
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A
Yeah, very much so.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I'm sure he's been holding it down at home.
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B
I mean, that's value. I'm sorry. It is.
- [21:14]
A
But, yeah, this will be an. A big divorce in terms of money.
- [21:19]
B
Yeah. And I feel like it's Gonna be one of those, you know, she pays a big settlement, but then also like alimony and child support. So I think she's in for. For. He's in for a big payday.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And you know, nothing makes me more sick than a man taking money from a woman. Like in a divorce, when it's a woman, it's like get every, like literally scrape any. Every penny you possibly can. If it's a man. When like the woman makes more money and he comes after for like alimony, child support, there's like a thing like quality of life. Like where like your quality of life shouldn't go down significantly. So like your part. Yeah, it's really crazy.
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A
I don't know. Get a job.
- [21:56]
B
Yeah. Correct. Settlements. Like that makes me.
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A
By the way, I would never say that to a woman. Like when a house has to go for. From like her mansion.
- [22:05]
B
Devastating.
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A
To an apartment. Give her more.
- [22:09]
B
It's absolutely devastating. It's so crushing, you hate to see it. And that's because I know if a woman is in a relationship and she's not providing financially, like I know she's providing other things that are of equal value. Whether it's children, whether it's homemaking, whether it's sex, like, whatever it is, I just know she's making up for it.
- [22:24]
A
If I just want to say like, and children is like, it's huge. Up all the way. Like huge all the way up here. Of course there's other things that she can do as well, but like to give someone children, like that is a full time job.
- [22:35]
B
And I know she empowers the man to make that money. He wouldn't be able.
- [22:39]
A
Behind every great man is a strong woman.
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B
And I know when it's the opposite and like a man doesn't provide financially, not only does he do none of those things, he actually drains the woman and her ability to make even more money. So I feel sick. Maybe he'll do the decent thing and say like, you know, I'm all good, but I just like, who would. He wouldn't. So this is devastating. It's Adele. You know it's Adele. Remember when she gave him $70 million?
- [23:02]
A
However, like, that was a couple years. One small child. Like, this is 16 years. Three daughters who are going to have to like, you know, go back and.
- [23:10]
B
Forth worse that it was only a couple of years and he got 7. 70 million.
- [23:13]
A
Yeah. No, that's worse. That's what I'm saying. This isn't as bad. To me, it's true.
- [23:18]
B
Because it's Like a real family.
- [23:19]
A
Yeah. He gave her a lot of love over the years, but I'm actually just surprised that they fell out of love. I saw, like, rumors or that they had trouble keeping the spark. Like, I'm sorry, it's 16 years. Like, it's not about the fudgeing spark.
- [23:31]
B
Not. But, like, if you're getting divorced. Yeah. Obviously you have no spark. Like, I hate when people say, like, obvious things.
- [23:37]
A
No, but it's like, you're not getting divorced because spark.
- [23:40]
B
No. Everything didn't work out, but they still have so much spark. What?
- [23:47]
A
Anyways, I'm sure, like, they'll start to share more. But also, like, with the fires going on.
- [23:53]
B
Yes.
- [23:53]
A
I don't think.
- [23:54]
B
I wonder if, like, the timing of the announcement sort of is intentional just to keep it, like, minimize it.
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A
Not the main story. Yeah, right. I guess so.
- [24:04]
B
Well, this is sad. You hate to see, like, a successful Hollywood marriage end in a family because they are so infrequent. But I'll have to see how I feel once I. Once I read the divorce settlement, you know, Am I still sad?
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A
Yeah. Yeah. Our next story. Some big podcast news that I feel like we haven't covered in full, but Khloe Kardashian has lost a launch a podcast in partnership with X. And not to make it about us, Dear Media, a thousand percent. So her show is called Chloe in Wonderland, and episodes will premiere on X and then the next day, they're available anywhere. You get your podcast distributed by our swirlies at Dear Media. And the first episode dropped, and it is with Scott, but, like, she's going. I feel like over the years, like, she's done, you know, of course, Chloe After Dark.
- [24:46]
B
Like, Cocktails with Chloe.
- [24:47]
A
Cocktails with Chloe always has, like, a little show here or there, but she's going, like, all in on podcasting now, sitting down with people in her life. Scott, I think, is a good first guest, but also too, actually, I think it will be like, what if I. When I listen, like, it will probably be good conversation.
- [25:02]
B
Yeah. I think it's gonna be one of those shows that you tune in based on the guest, because it's not really about Chloe. It's an interview show. So the guests that have been lined up for this season and already announced are, like, Jay Shetty, Tony Robbins. Now just. I'm thinking about it because, like, Mel Robbins is doing everybody's podcast. I don't even know.
- [25:16]
A
Is that Tony's wife?
- [25:17]
B
That's what I was just about to ask you, because they both know. They both do, like, mantras.
- [25:20]
A
And there's no way.
- [25:21]
B
Tony, Mel, or, like, daughter.
- [25:25]
A
I just feel like Tony Robbins.
- [25:26]
B
No, Mel Robbins has actually criticized Tony Robbins's quotes.
- [25:32]
A
That doesn't mean she's not his wife.
- [25:34]
B
Yeah, it's so true. Let's say.
- [25:36]
A
No, they're obviously not married. And I just feel like when I imagine Tony Robbins wife, like, she's not, like, a girl boss CEO.
- [25:42]
B
They're not related. No, definitely not. Tony Robbins would never let a girl boss CEO into his bed. Are you crazy?
- [25:48]
A
Right? So there's two people with last name Robbins?
- [25:53]
B
No, but they also, like, do the same thing. It's weird.
- [25:55]
A
Yeah, that is weird. It's probably frustrating. Imagine how they feel.
- [25:58]
B
Yeah, but, like, they're SEO results.
- [26:00]
A
Yeah.
- [26:01]
B
Wellness Robbins.
- [26:03]
A
Wellness Robbins.
- [26:07]
B
Okay, back to Chloe's podcast.
- [26:09]
A
Trademark.
- [26:10]
B
Literally.
- [26:11]
A
Robbins, Back to Chloe's podcast. I'm really excited for her because she is a great personality, and that's, you know, when you strip it down. That's why she's so beloved and why she was always beloved back in the days, because of who she is on the inside. So podcasting is a great medium for her. I love that she's, like, doing it with X. Doing video, of course, because we want to see. We want to see the girls, of course.
- [26:32]
B
And I like that her first guest was Scott, because I think they have such an interesting relationship and dynamic. So it'll be for, like, you know, for entertainment purposes. It'll be, like, interesting to watch, but also, like, he's from her Kardashian universe, but he is a little bit removed from it. So I think it's actually a great first guest. I think that this will be the type of show that, like, I care about based on the guest, which is a lot of interview shows. Like, sometimes you care and sometimes you don't. I do want her to use it a little bit more, like, for and about herself.
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A
Well, I guess each guest will ultimately, like, bring something out of her. I feel like I saw a clip where she's talking about how that therapist sold a story about her, so she must be talking maybe with someone about therapy. So I feel like she. It's not just, like, question answer, question answer. She's not a reporter journalist. Like, these are conversations. So whoever she's talking to will, like, bring out something about Chloe. So, Scott, they're talking about a couple things, but he is talking about how he doesn't really, like, talk to anyone or do any press if it's not within the family. Like, if it's not the show or if he's not, like, doing something with the girls because he just doesn't want, like, things being, like, misconstrued. And then the family's like, scott, what'd you do?
- [27:38]
B
Yeah. I feel like they collectively, as a family, also got to a level where they didn't have to do press anymore to, like, sustain their fame and their fortune. And I think for a lot of them, that was an enormous relief. I think Kim likes doing press. I think some of the girls like doing it, but I think for the most part, like, Chloe definitely doesn't. I could see Scott not liking it, not wanting to get in trouble, or, like, having things taken out of context. So once you don't have to do press anymore to, like, sustain your livelihood and your celebrity, I'm sure it's a joy to not do it.
- [28:01]
A
It. Yeah. Chloe, I think, likes doing it the least, and I actually think doing a podcast, like, kind of turns that on its head a bit, because now she gets. She's in the driver's seat, she asks the questions. She only talks about things that she wants to talk about, but we still get to hear from her.
- [28:12]
B
I feel like when Facebook, like, lost whatever, like, their network was Facebook Watch or whatever, and Red Table Talk went off the air, I do feel like. I don't know how popular the show was, but I know certain episodes, like, were big cultural moments. I do feel like it left a little bit of a gap in the market for, like, a talk show run by a celebrity that other celebrities can use as, like, a safe place to, like, a dress up. And I actually could see Chloe filling that gap a little bit, because I think a lot of celebrities like her and trust her, and if, like, you had a big scandal and you had, like, a bunch of options, kind of how, like, Olivia Jade went on or Jordyn woods went on Red Table Talk, I could see, like, Chloe becoming that. I think that's a Jada a good.
- [28:52]
A
Comparison and, like, a good thing for her to strive towards.
- [28:55]
B
Yeah. Because, like, that show was actually really good. It just sucks that it was on Facebook and, like, nobody cared.
- [29:00]
A
Yeah.
- [29:01]
B
But every now and then, when they had these huge guests based on these, like, huge moments. Olivia, Jade, Jordan woods, it was kind of fabulous. And they also used it for their own drama, which didn't appeal to me, but they had a lot of family drama at the time with, you know, the entanglement, the. That rapper August, and they would use it as, like, a platform to clarify and talk. And Chloe, the Kardashians have always needed that. Like, they remember when Kim went on that podcast and they choose, like, weird places to go when they need to explain stuff, things that they, you know, know are safe. Like, remember when she finally talked about Balenciaga really briefly on that random podcast?
- [29:32]
A
Like, yeah.
- [29:33]
B
They have actually needed their own media outlet for a while and it's been obvious that it should be a podcast and it should have happened a long time ago because I think they needed it more like over the last couple of years, whether it was hosted by Chris or Chloe, but.
- [29:46]
A
But they have the show. I guess the thing about the podcast.
- [29:49]
B
Is the show has not been real in a really long time. Like, it has not been, I guess.
- [29:55]
A
But also by the time they address things on the show, it's like we're kind of over it. They do. They haven't been able to sell for like the immediate. Yeah, and I think this is good for that.
- [30:03]
B
We had said that, like, the show should have had much faster turnaround and been a little bit more substantial. We've been saying that for years and it never would. So at this point it kind of just. It became like fiction, almost like fun to watch pretty girls do. Pretty girls.
- [30:16]
A
Yeah, Commercial. Like selling Sunset.
- [30:18]
B
Exactly. It wasn't real. So I love this. I hope it's successful and I hope she likes doing it because podcasting is a lot of work and I think a lot of people end up not liking it. That's why there are so many failed podcasts. Like, not only is it more work than you anticipated, but it's not as rewarding as you would think. And it's actually hard to keep an audience. So if it's not even like doing that. Well, like, I understand why a lot of people start them and don't pick them back up, so I hope she likes it.
- [30:39]
A
Yeah, agreed. They're also talking about how both of them, like, are not really dating until the. Their kids are older, until each other. And, well, they talked about the rumors.
- [30:48]
B
And how they would never be honest with us.
- [30:51]
A
They just could never do it, which is such a shame.
- [30:54]
B
Why could they never do it, in your opinion? Because I think Courtney would actually at this point be like, not only okay with it, I think she might encourage it.
- [31:03]
A
Like his kids are her nieces and nephews.
- [31:06]
B
But like, so I don't know. No, it's. I, I hear you.
- [31:11]
A
It would be like very non traditional. I just, I also think I. I actually think they could if they really fell in love, but they just like, it's like a brother and Sister.
- [31:18]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [31:19]
A
I guess it's like a brother and sister.
- [31:21]
B
Some of us are just still.
- [31:23]
A
We're still there at the restaurant. Yeah. So that drops today. Enjoy.
- [31:29]
B
So that's the first episode.
- [31:31]
A
First episode with Scott that the podcast has premiered. So she's off to the races. Go, Chloe.
- [31:36]
B
Not crazy about the title.
- [31:38]
A
I. I think it's cute. And she beat Keeping up with Sports to the punch of launching a podcast.
- [31:42]
B
No, I forgot to tell you. I sent you a clip. Keeping Up.
- [31:45]
A
You sent me a clip.
- [31:45]
B
It.
- [31:46]
A
But, like, there wasn't an episode. Claudia, they have an Instagram page. They had. You sent me the clip. I went to their page. It was the only clip.
- [31:52]
B
Okay. But they had to. They had to have filmed something.
- [31:56]
A
I just don't know why it's so hard for them.
- [31:59]
B
Keeping Up With Sports. I'm just searching the podcast app.
- [32:07]
A
Yeah, I think I searched like, I was ready. I was sat. And you don't think Jenner.
- [32:14]
B
Oh, yeah. No. The Sizzle reel came out March 2024. It's been a year. The reviews are so funny.
- [32:21]
A
Are they doing.
- [32:24]
B
Since the intro, I have heard nothing further. When are episodes coming? That's so funny.
- [32:30]
A
I should follow it so that when the episode drops, I'll be the first to know.
- [32:35]
B
I don't know if it's like a. When the episode drops. I think it's more of, like, if the episode.
- [32:39]
A
You don't think for the last year, like, they've been working on the perfect first episode?
- [32:43]
B
No, like, no, I don't. I. I don't.
- [32:47]
A
I think she needs.
- [32:49]
B
She's already beating Lamar. That's good.
- [32:52]
A
Are you ready for our next story? A bit of an update from yesterday's story about.
- [32:57]
B
It's a third story, right?
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A
This is our third story. Yes. So Twitch's ex wife, Allison Holker, is addressing all of the criticism that she's received and saying that she believes Twitch would choose to share his story to help others. So she has shared a statement on her Instagram after facing criticism from her late husband's loved ones and from social media. Ahead of the book's release on February 4, she said to fans of Stephen and our family and friends, I want to be clear that my only intention in writing the book is to share my own story as well as part of my life with Stephen, to help other people just like you. I never really knew what happened. And even as I'm trying to put the pieces together, I will never really know. If you decide to read the book, hopefully you'll see My intention is to celebrate the love and life I shared with Stephen and our three beautiful children, and also the more complex aspects of both of our lives. Lives. I hope that by sharing our full story, maybe I can help someone else who might see themselves or a loved one in Stephen and sharing. I hope maybe they catch some of the red flags that I missed before it's too late.
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B
Okay, I. Again, I'm coming into this saga with really no preconceived notions of any of them. And my inclination is, like, if everybody's saying you're something, you're something. Do you know what I mean? Like, all of former friends, family members, co workers, like, the amount of people who keep. It's almost like someone was waiting for someone to say something, and then the first person said something, and everybody felt like it was kind of like a green light to speak their minds. And the amount of people, like, the sheer volume of it, I find powerful. I do.
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A
Yeah, I agree. You know, she's very much focusing on, this is her story, this is her truth.
- [34:31]
B
And while that might be the case, if you sit down and do an interview and the takeaway from the headlines is all about your husband's addiction, like, I don't know how that's telling your story.
- [34:41]
A
Yeah. And then also when she comes at it with, like, I'm helping the next person, it's, like, hard to say. You know, it is just the.
- [34:49]
B
The thing that I struggle with is, like, we really don't know whether this person would want his addiction out there or not. And actually, there are members of his family and friends who say there wasn't even an addiction, but let's say that there is. Right?
- [34:59]
A
Yeah.
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B
There's no way to know whether he would want it out there or not. So for her to just sort of, like, make this decision, to publicize it without speaking to other people involved, like his mother and his brother, that gives me bad faith energy.
- [35:16]
A
It's true.
- [35:17]
B
It's something that impacts everyone. And so to not even have the conversation, to get the approval of his family, it feels what people are. You know, what that woman Courtney is saying is, like, tacky and tasteless. It does.
- [35:29]
A
Yeah. And it. So much time has passed, people, like, weren't really, you know, wondering. It's like, there's been myriad documentaries what happened. Like, you could have just, like, let him rest in peace.
- [35:40]
B
It's true.
- [35:40]
A
And instead, now his name is literally being dragged through the news, like, in the messiest possible way. It could not be messier, not only as an addict, but like family drama, his kids. He has kids. Like, it's just. It was clean and now it's messy. And was there a need for that? But also, maybe she's got bills to pay.
- [35:58]
B
Well, that's the other thing. So I think that we can point to other examples of people who have actually, like, gotten a lot of fame after loss. And it's this weird line to walk. Right. Because a lot of people followed your story. Like Amanda Kloots.
- [36:13]
A
Yeah.
- [36:13]
B
When her husband died of COVID that was like the saddest saga, like, everybody was following. And it oddly, like, made her a star. You know, she went on to host the talk, and she's like a. She's like a swirly now. Like.
- [36:24]
A
Yeah.
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B
And whereas before she was, like, a fitness influencer. So it's definitely an odd trajectory to success, and I don't think anybody wants it, but it sometimes happens when your story is as powerful as it is. And I think that Alison saw herself as, like, a bit of an Amanda Kloots, and I think that she got carried away.
- [36:44]
A
Yeah.
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B
Because the thing I actually really like about Amanda Kloots is, like, she's always remained really. She hasn't, like, leaned in heavily to, like, this weird version of fame that she has and, like, run away with it. I think. Like, she. It's. It's an awkward, weird place to be in. And how you handled it. How you handle it will speak volumes of, like, how people receive you. And I just think these are two examples of people who handled it really differently.
- [37:11]
A
Yeah. However, I haven't been keeping up with Allison Holker for the last three years since Twitch passed away. So I don't know what she's been doing.
- [37:17]
B
Me neither. But I hear about her periodically, like, just when she talks about.
- [37:21]
A
Yeah.
- [37:22]
B
So that must be, like. It's tough when you get rewarded financially, fame wise for bringing up your tragedy. And then it's easy to get, like, kind of carried away and become, like, tasteless.
- [37:33]
A
I guess. For the last few years, like, his family and friends have been watching it, like, not saying anything, just being like, okay, maybe that's not what I would do. Like, that's a weird. Okay. And then the book. And then his journal entry said, she's sharing. Like. Like, it's gotten too far. Yeah, understood. So the book is coming, though.
- [37:50]
B
And that's the thing about books. Like, when you announce it. Like, it's. But they've been printed by the time you announced it. That was like, the Tommy Fury book. Like, poor timing. He had to add, like, an addendum to the memoir he had written being like, yeah, everything I wrote here is, like, no longer true. I made a mistake. It. By the time you announce it, whether there's backlash or anything, it's almost too late. I feel like that happened really to, like, Jamie Lynn Spears, too, by the time she announced it. And also there was so much going on at the exact same time as Britney was like, we can't. We. This train. We can't stop this train.
- [38:20]
A
Yes. But actually they changed the title of the book. Who's Jamie Lynn Spears? Remember, she announced her memoirs and it was a Britney lyric. And they're like, are you kidding? And she changed it.
- [38:29]
B
Yeah, I guess you could change the lyric because it's the COVID And then also all of the drama change the title.
- [38:35]
A
A lot of the drama from the book happened from the contents of the book. So the book was published. And then there's drama, like, and the press.
- [38:40]
B
The press that she was doing, too.
- [38:41]
A
Yeah. But, like, not before, where it's like, wait, can we not have the book come out anymore?
- [38:45]
B
Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. It's kind of a risk. It's a gamble.
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A
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?
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Really?
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Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.
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Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.
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I feel like both of ours were particularly beautiful today.
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I thought you would say bad. I was like, okay, watch yourself.
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No, I thought like I. I heard something beautiful in mine and then yours as well.
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I always hear something beautiful every time you open your mouth.
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Our next story, some lovely news. In the midst of all these breakups, the school of rock child stars who met on the set of the movie Are getting married to. They got married. Sorry. 22 years after meeting on the set of the movie. So.
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No, this is, like, actually too much to bear.
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Angelo.
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Joy.
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Angelo Massagli and Caitlyn hale were just 10 years old when they met on the set of the movie, so.
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So Caitlyn is the blonde, like, sneaky brown noser with a hidden agenda. She sings Memory.
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Yeah, she's one of Summer's girls.
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That's Miranda's Cosgrove. She sings that?
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Yeah. No, but she's like, one of her. Her name Marta.
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In the movie.
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She's a backup singer. Yeah.
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And then Angelo is classic. You guys know him? He was security. Head of security. He was like that really tall broad kid, Frankie. He looks exactly the same.
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So does she.
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Yeah, it's actually, they all do. I was able to recognize pretty much every single one of them that was there. Obviously. Notably missing was Miranda Cosgrove and Jack Black.
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But he was on the set of a movie, they said, and he totally, like, reached out and commemorated it privately and, like, would have been there if he could have.
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Oh, wait, I love that. I thought for sure, like, he wasn't even invited because of all of them. Like, he's literally, like, a mega. Megastar. How do they even get his address?
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I don't know. But nine cast members went to their wedding.
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I saw everyone. I saw Zach. I saw. I'm not cool enough. I saw the girl on the base. Chill. Oh, you've got a base. I love this story, like, seriously, so much.
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No, same. It's really cute. They actually, like, reconnected later in life. They didn't, like, start dating on the set of the movie.
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That's good.
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They both, like, went to college in Florida and connected, went to lunch. And then, like, there was something. There was the start of something new.
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That'S, like, seriously so crazy and so cute. The thing I can't get over is, like, when you look at pictures of, like, kids from high school. I mean, kids from, like. What were they? They were in, like, the fifth grade. What are they supposed to be? Less third grade?
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No. Like, probably, like, maybe not middle school. Not middle school.
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Hold on.
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I'm sorry. Kids.
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Probably in the third grade.
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They were 10 years old.
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How old are you when you're like, seriously?
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There's no way to know.
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Hey, Siri, what grade are you in when you're 10 years old? Sorry, I don't understand. Me neither. You're in fifth grade.
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No one does fifth.
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So where was I going with this point? Oh, you know, like, someone you knew in fifth grade, like, what they look like now is completely different. Like, they're actually irrecognizable. The crazy thing was, I haven't seen a picture of any of these people in years. They look exactly how they should look. Like they have the same face, but they're just grown up. It was freaky.
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It is. It's so crazy. They look. Yeah, they look like they just grew.
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Like this movie. Like, I feel like sometimes I was just having this conversation with a friend. Like, movies that you loved as a kid, like, they really don't hold. Yeah, I have a lot of friends. They really don't stand the test of time.
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She was talking to a friend. They don't.
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They don't. And I actually remember I've seen School of Rock, like, a bunch of times since I had first fallen in love with it. But actually, during COVID one of Ben's friends, like, was trying to celebrate his birthday, and there was, like, nothing you could really do. But you remember how you used to be able to rent a movie theater because they couldn't sell tickets to a movie? So instead they would. I think it was $99 to rent a movie theater. So he rented a movie theater and invited, like, 20 people. We all sat in this huge theater, and you could bring your own food and drinks and you could choose your own movie. And he chose School of Brock. And, like, let me tell you, that movie, like, if I was seeing it for the first time, I would have thought it was brilliant.
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Yeah.
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It is a classic, timeless piece of comedy.
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No, it is. It holds up. And the older you are, like, the more you understand and just like it. It's so good.
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And then the ground it laid for so many celebrities, like, obviously, that was a big moment for Miranda Cosgrove. Ned Stiebly is the creator of White Lotus. Sarah Silverman is his miserable girlfriend. Like, there are a lot. Joan Cusack. Yes.
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But I also then, in seeing this picture and these child stars that kind of went nowhere, but they also look, like, happy, and they look well adjusted, thriving.
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I actually think they all went on to lead completely normal lives with just this, like, fun fact about themselves.
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So I wonder, like, where they're. Maybe just. They petered out, but. So she is an obgyn sonographer, and he works as a music product. Counts as a music product council for Tick Tock. I don't know what that means. Music product council.
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Okay, so it sounds like they both went on to do things like their characters were gonna do, like, life imitating art. He Was really into, like, the industry of the music. Music industry. Like, sort of from afar. And she was. What did she do? She's an obgyn. She was always a woman who supported other women.
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A 1000%.
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I could see it. She's very pretty. She looked beautiful on her wedding day.
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She's a sonographer. You should go see her. I think that they live in New Jersey. They got married in New Jersey.
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Oh, my God. Well, the girl who played the bass, like, she had the most Instagram stories. Like, she was filming the entire thing. Like, the wedding looked so fun. They were all at the same table. Like, it was seriously too much. It's kind of a good premise for a movie.
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Cloudy. I was just thinking about, like, that because I. Table 19.
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Yeah, but they all get back together from, like, this movie that they shot as kids and, like. Yeah, yeah, I like it.
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I like it too. Maybe that's like the School of Rock sequel. Like, two of the classmates are getting married.
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Two things they need to never make a School of Rock sequel. Like, sequels ruin things. They made it into a Broadway show, and that's fine. Like, just leave it alone. 2. When I was on my way to Florida, actually, I was, like, seriously gonna faint in the back of this car. So I pulled over in some random town in New Jersey on my way to the airport, and I got pizza. And while I was driving through town, it was like this actually very cute, quaint town. There was, like, a music school, like, an after school program in town called the School of Rock, and it had, like, the same exact logo. And they, like, do guitar lessons and drum lessons, like, for people in town. It was so cute.
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Oh, cute. I thought you were gonna say that you passed by the Park Chateau Estate and Gardens in East Brunswick because that's where they got married.
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I didn't. I mean, I might have, but I don't know.
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So mazel tov to the happy couple.
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And thank you, like, for sharing this joy with us.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So if you want to be the teacher to mate, well, baby, you just better forget it. Oh, and the original music from that movie was amazing, too. Rock got no reason. Rock got no rhyme. You better get me to school on time. So good.
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Yeah, so good. Our fifth and final story. If our last story celebrates the best of the industry, the industry at its best, the School of Rock and Love. Our fifth story celebrates the worst because a new docu series on the fall of Diddy is coming to investigation discovery on January 27th and 28th. It is called the Fall of Diddy and it will cover the sexual misconduct allegations against Diddy, and is set to feature interviews from Summers, some of his former colleagues and employees, as well as some of his accusers. So the press release states, through these interviews and combined with a vast collection of our archival footage, the fall of Diddy paints a holistic picture of a mogul who was alleged to have wielded his extensive power and influence to obscure for decades a pattern of abuse and violence that left an unprecedented amount of pain and suffering in his wake. Among those interviewed for the docu series were D. Woods, who was a member of Danity Kane, as well as several. Several former employees who worked for the music mogul, including his former driver, who alleges that Combs once tried to bribe him. Also interviewed are two of his accusers, Rodney Lil Rod Jones, who we've talked about, like, his suit against Diddy, and Talia Graves, both of whom have sued Diddy, accusing him of sexual misconduct.
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So, obviously, the Diddy story is huge, right? Everyone's talking about it. It's the, like, the biggest story of last year and probably this year. But something about a documentary that, like, really spells it out for people because, you know, we're all reading the headlines, and not a lot of us are reading, you know, the entire lawsuit or the entire article. So I think that if this documentary. Sometimes documentaries come out and they don't make waves, but sometimes, like, if they start moving, right, if it has that effect, like, I think it'll be really powerful. And I also think it'll be really damaging for his case because, like, you have to think about people who watch that, like, they become jury members, you know, Because I just watched juror number two. I'm thinking a lot about jury. Oh, don't, don't.
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I'm gonna watch it, so don't spoil anything about it.
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You know what it's about?
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No, and I don't want to.
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I didn't know either. And, like, when I figured it out, I was like, are you kidding? It's really crazy.
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But I do think, like, jury members who have seen something like this, like, wouldn't be eligible for a jury because they would be coming in with bias.
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But it influences, like, even if you haven't seen it, like, everybody's talking about it's every headline. Like, it influences public opinion in a way or, say in some way.
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Yeah. I do think, like, Diddy will hopefully, like, receive the justice that he deserves. But what, like, is a little frustrating about this case is, like, it's so much bigger than diddy there are so many people at every party. There are so many. He's trafficking people to whom? To his powerful friends. Who are people whose names we might know, who are. We might be fans of. We might be buying their products. And they're horrible, criminal people. And, like, I know we need to know more of, like, blow it wide open. Who worked with him, who. This is not something that one person does on his own.
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No, it's true. Like, we know Diddy is bad now and he's going to get the justice he deserves. Like, we have been. No one's going to go into a room alone with him.
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No one's, like, just. No one's advocating for Diddy. Like.
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Right. But now it's. I mean, that's exactly what happened with Jeffrey Epstein, and we never got resolution. And it's so frustrating. And I imagine the two circles are connected, you know, because it's the same group of people, like, powerful, influential people with money, not just in Hollywood, but in politics and in business and world leaders, like, every Prince Andrew, like, every possible sector that you can think of. So it is really frustrating. And. And that's not to discount, like, his. The allegations against him and the justice that we seek to seek. But it's so much bigger than that. You're so right now. And we shouldn't lose sight of the list.
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So I hope that this documentary, like, names. Names.
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Yeah, but the thing is, like, a network like ID or Netflix, like, no, you. You put yourself. Oh, my God, sometimes words just don't come to me. You make yourself a target, like, legally, to make claims.
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They did it with the Nickelodeon one. Like, they were telling. Like, they were naming names. Dan Schneider, even though there wasn't, like, a serious allegation against him. Like, this was this pattern of behavior. I told a story, so.
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Yeah.
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And then also, like, when Drake Bell shared what happened to him, like, he's naming names.
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Yeah, but that guy's already in jail. Brian Peck, like, so he is. He was in jail and then, remember, he got rehired by Disney after going to jail for, like, child.
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Right, right. But where is he now? Is he dead?
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Did he die?
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It's feeling dead, hopefully.
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I don't know. Like, it's a. A tough spot, I think, for someone to take on.
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Yeah. But I think that will make the difference of, like, how much impact this. This documentary has. Is it new information or are you just, like, packaging it together for someone who's not reading everything and doesn't really know what's happened?
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Because there have been, like, whispers about certain celebrities. And I think the only other actual accusation that was made was Jay Z, which, by the way, I was watching Beyonce's halftime performance, which I just really, like, really, really enjoyed. I have, like, beautiful things to say. And as I was watching, I was like, oh, my God, I totally forgot because I. I don't really think of her and like Jay Z so much anymore. I feel like they kind of live several lives. But, like, that's literally her husband.
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Yeah.
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And like, he was literally accused of, like, raping a 13 year old. And it's just like, it's really crazy.
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Yeah.
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So we'll see if this blows the case wide open.
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Yeah. I just feel like we've, like, barely scratched the surface and I'm not, like, so excited about just a surface scratch. Like, there's a lot of bad, nefarious behavior in this town. And, like, do you want to do something about it or do not?
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Yeah. And I feel like there's actually so many similarities to Jeffrey Epstein because, like, now any picture Diddy has with a celebrity, it's like, look, look. And that happened a lot. Like Elaine Maxwell.
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I don't care about a picture of that. Anyone.
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I think a lot of people went to Diddy parties and they were upstairs being normal, having, you know, doing cocaine and drinking champagne. Not downstairs trafficking kids. Like.
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Right.
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So anytime there's like a picture, it's like, look, he's bad. Same with Ghislaine Maxwell. They were like, look, Carol Radzell knew Ghislaine. Like, they just have a picture with these people.
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Yeah.
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So I think it's like, it's getting lost. And you're right. I totally even forgot about, like, the network behind him.
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Right. Like, and you need people to traffic too. It's not just him.
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Behind every powerful trafficker, there's like a network of individuals making it happen.
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No. And a network of individuals who are his clients. Well, that was the craziest thing about, like, Jeffrey Epstein and Galene. They're like, arrested for human trafficking and there's no one who did they try then it's like, customers, keep going.
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Yeah.
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One step further.
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Follow the lead.
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Right. But like, these people are still in their own way, protected.
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Yeah.
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It's just frustrating.
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Yes. It really is. It's a good point. And it's also so crazy to think about the fact, like, P. Diddy, like, we keep talking about him, he's like, literally in jail. Love that.
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Yeah.
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But it's just, he's literally in jail.
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Yeah.
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So crazy.
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Where he should be.
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Lock him up. Throw away the key. That's our show. Good stories today.
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Yeah, I thought so.
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For sure. Little mix, have you thought at all about how you're gonna make your Queenie.
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And weenie little mix? I'm gonna make my Queenie little mix. I actually. I actually have not thought at all about who I'm gonna make my Queenie and weenie.
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Have you weirdly been thinking about it? Yeah. And I come up with nothing interesting.
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I gotta get my notebook out. I should start nominating people, like, throughout the week. Like, oh, that was weenie behavior.
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Nom, nom nom. Yeah, I love that.
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The Weenies. It is award season.
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It is. And the toast, as usual, is on.
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Trend for the toasties. We give out queenie and weenie. That about sums it up pretty much.
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