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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and Happy Wednesday. Okay, it's Wednesday. It's the middle of the week. It's a hump day. However, you are in particular are going to get through that, whether it's with a pillow, humping saddle, or just humping someone you love. Do what you got to do. Happy Wednesday. Swirlies. How you doing?
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A
Happy Wednesday. It is the day of the winds, which.
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B
So true.
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A
Feels fair. You know, it's at like you. Yesterday was a shock to the system. Today it is what it is. When we're done with this episode, we will have ushered you into the latter half of the week and we just have to keep looking towards the future.
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B
I find myself, like, as I get older, saying, it is what it is more and more, and it's just like, it is what it is.
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A
I mean, it's a great convo ender while also being agreeable and accepting the things that we can't change.
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B
Yes, yes. And I actually also find myself quoting that Alcoholics Anonymous blurb more often than I care to admit, because it's kind of pargy. It has nothing to do with alcoholism. It has to do with, like, God and courage. Yeah.
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A
It has to do with faith, like, accepting the things that I cannot change, which is the fact that it's Wednesday and I'm just gonna accept that.
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B
Speaking of quotes, I actually saw the most beautiful quote yesterday. That borderline brought me to tears and it came from Tick tock. I shared this on my Instagram, so I apologize if this is repetitive, but it bears repeating. Nostalgia is proof you are living a life to be proud of, how lucky we are to yearn for our own memories.
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That's beautiful.
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B
It's such a parchy way of thinking. Because nostalgia, like, when you really get into it, like, can be so depressing. It's like, the good days are behind us. But it's like, no, you've lived such a pargy life. Like, you're yearning for it.
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A
Yearn for your own things that you have had.
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I just wasn't expecting to be, like, hit with such a fresh, positive perspective on TikTok. I wasn't.
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A
I really, really like that. We recorded Redheads yesterday about the party book that we read. And at the end of every episode we do, like, moral of the story where we try and like, wait, wait.
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B
I started the redheads book yesterday, so please don't spoil anything.
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I won't spoil anything, but that's always a fun segment, especially after we've discussed the whole book. We come to the Moral of the story. This book actually had a lot of morals like that. You could have extrapolated from it. But actually, I guess I don't want to give away the moral of the story. Also to say there's some really good quotes in that segment. When the Redheads drops tomorrow, the episode is fire. And if you are a reader or want to become a reader, read the wedding people. Start there.
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B
I want to have a conversation with you about the Redheads.
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A
Okay.
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B
Because I know it's your passion project and you love it and, like, you crush it. Amazing. Yeah. But, like, at what point are we gonna have the conversation about me joining the Redheads? Like, at what point? Like, because when you started the Redheads, like, I refused to read, so I'm.
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Like, I literally did not think you were gonna say that. I thought you were just gonna be.
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Like, does nobody else at this point, like, feel like it's weird that I'm not in it or. No, nobody thinks that.
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A
I would love for you to be a part of the Redheads. The issue is, though, like, five people is too much for a podcast because you've been on the Redheads before, like, for two different episodes, so you would have to come for someone's seat. And I think you should start with Margo. Like, if you're trying to, like, take someone's seat, like, see if Margot. I love having Margot on the show. She brings, like, a fresh, young perspective. She chooses books that we wouldn't choose, and, like, she hate. Like, there's always someone who hates the book as much as Margot. So, like, she speaks for that person. But I do think, like, that's the chair that someone might get up from if I had to pick.
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I am in agreement that there can never be five redheads. Like, it's far too many. Four is already, like, really pushing it. And especially, like, you know me, I'm literally three people. So with the amount that I talk. So I agree. I would. And I guess it would be good for the redheads to know, like, if any of them ever wanted to leave, like, I am available.
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A
That's a good feeling. So nice to hear. That's not what I thought you were going to say. So I'm just, like, feeling really excited by that, that there's interest.
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B
To be clear, I want to let you know, like, if I were to join the Redheads, like, it very much is, like, your thing. Like, I'm showing up as an employee. Like, I don't want. I don't want to bear any of the responsibility. I just Want to be a host. Like, I like what you've done with it. I like your outlines. Like, I'm not coming for, like, a. A C suite executive type of role. I just want to be, like, a mid to, you know, entry level employee.
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A
Okay. I love that. Like, I should take Margot's temperature. I think she actually loves being a redhead, even though she acts like it's such a burden, but I think she loves the time spent with her big sis and her big sister's friends. And I do think that she, at the end of the day, like, likes being forced to read different types of books, and I don't know how she feels. We need to do a State of the Union. Like, how are the girlies feeling?
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B
Should I text her?
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Dean and Rebecca love it. Like, yeah, I wasn't buying it from their cold, dead hands. Same for me.
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Yeah, No, I just. But it's putting it out there.
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Well, next month's book that Rebecca chose, I've been seeing it everywhere. It's, like, called, like, all the Colors of the something, and it's so acclaimed, but it is 600 pages. So, like, what if we did. What if that chair was, like, an alternate chair?
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B
No, no. What if I joined the month after that?
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A
The month Dana's Choice could also be.
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B
It would just be like, whatever. Whatever months. The books are under 400 pages. I'll be there.
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A
But, like, what about when you don't like the book and you have to finish it, by the way?
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I am. I finish books that I hate all the time. I'm not, like, so stubborn. Especially if it's for something I have to read. Like, I. I can hang. And nobody loves to hate on a book more than me, so I can fill that role. I know, but I can be. I can be that. Like, I can bring that energy that Margot brings to the redheads while also bringing turd self, you know?
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Okay, well, Margo won't listen to this episode, but I'm sure someone will tell her. Claudia's coming for your scene on the redheads.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And let's see.
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And by the way, maybe she'll then, like, want it more.
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Yeah, she'll know. Like, it's very coveted. Let's see what happens from there.
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B
Okay, well, I have a huge, huge news. Actually have two huge pieces of news for the community ready.
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A
Okay.
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The first is just, like, Little House. Oh, actually three. Sorry, but the third one isn't huge. Just a little housekeeping update. I forgot to watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So. Dear Toasters, is today Woohoo. The DTQ getting their fill a little bit early.
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I think the DTQ is larger than the bhq, so.
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B
But nobody watches the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
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I know. Except for. For us.
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That's so us. Like, that is so us. So that was.
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You didn't watch last night. And at times I'm like, why are we watching the show? Like, it's feeling like a chore. It's not feeling like Southern charm. However, the end of the episode when Kathy Hilton hosted a dinner party for Kathy, Dorit Bose and Erica, that's.
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Oh, the dream team.
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The dream team. That's why I'm watching the Real House for that.
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B
Okay, like.
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And they had a real conversation about Dorit's marriage. And, like, Erica is being the friend that, like, you need. She's being Phoebe. If you've read the Wedding People, she's being Phoebe. That's why we're watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So, you know.
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B
Okay, so that makes me feel better. But there is no recap today, so. Dear toasters, housekeeping Wednesday. Back to our roots, you know? So that's the first announcement. The second announcement is we've been keeping you guys updated on our theme song journey. And I want to let everybody know that we are getting in the studio this week. Jackie, your first session is tomorrow, correct?
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My first session is tomorrow. Or is it Friday? Oh, my God. My week just got sort of, like, blown to bits here. I was, like, bragging we got over the flu and it was the weekend and blah, blah, and then Harry got an ear infection, has been, like, really sick with it. So, like, I kind of have to, like, wipe the slate clean for the week. Except it's Friday. We'll be fine. My appointment's Friday to record. Oh, my God. I took a video of myself saying it.
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Ear infection that has infected. Your son is listening to this. My nephew, if you're hearing me, just know you better fucking pray I don't see you in the streets because what you've done to my poor nephew.
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Sleep.
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Sleeping with his hand on his ear. He's in so much pain. I'll kill you. I'll kill you and your musty, dusty, germy ass. Okay? I feel sick that my nephew has an ear infection. I feel sick.
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No, it's, like, so annoying because I guess an ear infection, like, is a result of a sickness and then, like, it sprouts afterwards.
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B
Yeah.
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So we were, like, out of the woods, fever free for, like, 48 hours, and then back. And so, like, we Went back to the doctor yesterday, so it's an ear infection. So he's on an antibiotic and it'll get cleared up.
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But just like, I feel so sick from this.
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A
We made all these plans.
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B
Well, you're still going to be hitting the recording studio on Friday in two days.
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Like, a lot changes in two days. And the recording studio is my house, so. Yeah.
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And how are you preparing for your first session? We had a lengthy discussion with our producer about, you know, whose vocals should get laid down first. We ultimately decided that it was Jackie's. And how are you feeling? Like, what are you doing to prepare?
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A
So I'm obviously memorizing the song. However, I can't really change the way I'm singing it until I get feedback from the producer. I did take a video of myself singing it and I thought, how could.
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B
You not have sent that?
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I thought I kind of crushed it until, like, the last line I had to, like, redo. It was bad.
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B
That's okay.
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Maybe I should send that to him. But I don't want to scare him. He doesn't know, you know.
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Well, I. He does. I spoke to him. So I've worked with him before. And he knows, obviously, my vocal abilities. And I said it's really important. Like, I know that I'm like a vocal star, but it's important that Jackie and I are represented. 50, 50. Like, I want just as amount of syllables as Jackie as me. But I did say Curtis, you know, Jackie just for, like, does that have an amazing voice?
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A
Yeah. And he can auto tune me, but I still want it to be myself. Otherwise, it's like we could have hired a professional. However, in this moment, like, I'm not super, like, egotistic about, like, being. You know what I mean? Like, I want what's best for the song. Like, if that means that you are getting, like 80% of it, like, that doesn't bother me. I just want you to know, like.
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B
Can I tell you, it actually bothers me. And I'm so egotistical. Like, if we're doing a dance, I want to be in the center. Like, I want my picture bigger than everybody else is. Like, I want to be the main character. But for this, like, this show is such a equal partnership, our theme song must reflect that. And I don't care how bad you sound. Like, you are getting in there and you are doing the routine.
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A
Yeah, I guess because, like, we're not actually putting out a song. Like, it's a theme song. It can be fun. It doesn't have to Be good. Like, there's space for me. But I always let you know when, like, I'm like, I want visibility on something. Like, this isn't. If. If.
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If.
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You know, if I don't have what it takes. Like, no, don't have what it takes.
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When I think of some of the people who have released music, especially, like, think about the Bravo sphere. If Alex Van Campen. What's his name? Simon Van Campen can do it, so can you.
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A
That's true.
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And your voice, like, actually, it's so funny because your voice is obviously not good, but you're not a total lost cause. Like, there are people. Brian Kelly. I'm not a lost cause of, like, he can't even carry. Happy birthday. Like, the worst voice ever. You actually, like, you don't have an amazing voice, but you can carry a tune.
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I mean, I have a bad voice, but I'm very musical, you know, so, like, I can understand the beats and the rhythm and everything, except, like, the sound of my voice is bad, but, like, I'm not just, like, totally off.
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B
Yeah. My third and final big announcement is probably the biggest announcement I'll make today.
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A
I feel like today, this month so far, this episode is just, like, me fishing for compliments, like, about my voice and the redhead.
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B
Yeah, it's. It's actually so, like, you're, like, really.
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Showering me with compliments. No, but it's also, like, you. You're just being so complimentary.
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B
I slept really well. Maybe that's what it is. Yeah. My third and final. I just wanted to update everybody. If you listen to Monday's episode, Jackie and I accidentally, like, just discovered an amazing photographer. If, you know, you know the Michael Buckner of it all on Monday's episode, I highly encourage. I'm sure you guys have listened to it, but if you haven't, just go listen to the fifth and final story. Jackie and I just. Whatever. We have made contact with Michael Buckner. He slid into my DMs.
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A
Michael Buckner has made contact.
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B
When I tell you my jaw hit the floor. Seeing him in my DMs, I was cracking up, and I was, like, kind of afraid. I was like, is he, like, upset? Because he's, like, a professional? Turns out he DM'd me being like, would love to take your headshot. And I was like, oh, my God, I love that. But then I went to his Instagram. Oh, you can't get your headshot taken by Michael Buckner. Like, if you're just anyone. He is literally, like, the foremost celebrity Photographer. I don't know how Christina Hack's boyfriend got a photo with him. Like, you guys. His Instagram, Emma Stone, Ayo, Edebiri, Zoe Saldana, Selena Gomez. Like, it's that tip of the iceberg. Like, the best of the best. And he's in my DMs, like, saying he thought it was so funny. His wife was surprised to hear that he's dating Chris. Christina Hack. Like, and he lives in la, unfortunately. So if he comes to New York.
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A
I told Claudia she has to take maternity photos with him.
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And I told Jackie because the day is going to come where we need to redo our artwork. I'm sorry, I don't look like that anymore. We have to have Michael Butner Buckner creative direct the shoot.
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We have to have him do our next toast artwork. I totally agree. I would only trust Michael. Like, he's kind of the only name. And like, his vision. Yeah, he just totally gets us. And he's like the only photographer I feel comfortable. Comfortable with at this point.
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B
Well, I echo your statements completely. And I just. I love what we do because. And sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad. Like where we just talk about random people and then we hear from that it's mostly bad. Philip Phillips. Like, we all remember where we were.
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Teacher.
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No, not my gym teacher. My English teacher. Yes.
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No, but there was also a gym teacher. Starts with a D. I'm sure he's listening right now.
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B
No, Jackie, his daughters are huge toasters. I talk to them all the time. That was positive.
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A
Okay.
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Jackie was my English teacher. Remember when I said that, like, thing about him? I don't want to get into it. I actually don't want to get into it. And sometimes, like, those people will, you know, hear it and reach out to us and it's butt clenchingly horrible. Like, it makes me want to quit this job and actually work as an accountant. But every now and then, Michael Buckner comes along and makes it all okay.
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A
Yeah. So that was very exciting. Highlight of the week and really a front runner for Queenie of the week.
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And the fact that he could take a joke. Like, I didn't know that about Michael Buckner. Like, Michael Buckner takes jokes. Like, I love it.
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A
Yeah. So if you have the.
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B
You're really cute today.
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A
Oh, my gosh. Thank you. I was thinking we're both in like our winter whites.
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B
Yeah. It's giving winter wonderland. Actually, this turtleneck is all that fits me right now. Like, I'm just.
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A
That's funny.
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B
Really. Going digging into the Archives of clothes that managed to miss the Ozempic hall. Like when I. What? The second I lost weight, I was like, oh, I'll never be fat again. Everything over a size medium.
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A
Can we do our. My Patreon idea this month of closet?
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B
Sure. I.
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A
Maybe I'll just do it for you. Because my idea was like that we would each film ourselves. I love doing a two like a dual vlog now. Really putting our heads.
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B
Such a filmmaker, very Michael Buckner, such a content creator.
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But so that I would like take a couple of pieces, send them to Turdi. She would film herself like opening them, enjoying them. Because I have a lot of maternity clothes and things that you would like. So can I do that? You don't have to. Then send to me if. If people want a part two, that's a different story.
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B
Yeah, for sure. I could also just like come to your house and we could do this. You know you could, but you don't have.
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A
Why we have to.
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B
Why do we have to involve like the postage system?
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A
I just think it's like such fun pen pal things, but I guess not.
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B
Yeah. You know how I feel about like bringing things into my home and.
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A
Okay, but if it's something that you wear, I'm not going to send you crap. Like, I'm going to send you like good bodysuits, good material. Comaly hatch. Like I.
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B
Wearing bodysuits while you're pregnant.
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A
You know what? Yes. Not a bodysuit. A cat suit. Like with pants. That's what I wore. Like the Norma Kamali catsuit. Like, it's just a great base and you put a cardigan over part. Delicious.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Okay. I thought you were talking about like a bodysuit. Like thong.
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No. Oh my God. No, I'm not a sick individual. No, no.
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B
I don't even wear those. Not pregnant. No.
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A
I just bought a couple of bodysuit T shirts where it's like a T shirt that then goes into your undies. They'll be here on Thursday. I'll let you know how it goes.
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B
No, I actually like that concept because if you're looking for like a tucked in tea, a bodysuit makes it really easy. I just. The whole thing of like having a piece of material up your butthole makes. Makes life not worth living, to be honest.
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A
Yeah. But also like doing anything and seeing your own midriff makes life worth not living. So, like, this solves that.
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B
You just said a mouthful there, sister. My midriff is none of my business.
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A
Yeah, I agree. So I'm really excited about this new Technology. I've invested in body technology without technology. Shout out to the camera and the counselor holding down Classic.
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B
I was at Barnes and Noble Union Square yesterday, hosting a book event for Brian's book tour. And they. It's so funny. I was gonna ask, but I thought it was obnoxious. But anytime I go to a bookstore, if they have, like, one or two copies of my book, I like to sign it and then post it on my Instagram if anybody wants a signed copy. But, you know, it was Brian's night, so, like, I wasn't gonna, like, make it a thing, right? Of course. But I get there, and this Barnes and Noble Union Square, like, they're obviously professional. They had, like, 50 of my books, and they were like, will you sign them? I said, of course. But I was like, I hope Brian doesn't see. Like, I don't want him thinking I'm making this event about myself. Like, I actually felt. So he didn't. He didn't see. But then when I was leaving, Becca, who's, like, his head of pr, she was like, oh, Brian walked into the green room and saw your bugs. I was like, oh, no. Just so you know, I did not put them out. And I wanted to say it crossed my mind to ask. And honestly, if I just wasn't so lazy, I would have asked. Like, I'm going all the way there. Like, let me sign some books. It's, like, one of the biggest bookstores in the city. But I didn't, because I was lazy. And I did know, like, that I felt like it was tacky. And I was like, becca, I swear on my life, this was a total shock. I didn't ask. And she was like, no. The Barnes and Noble staff told Brian that, like, it was their idea, but I just feel like he didn't believe. Like, no, I wouldn't. It's so crazy, and it's so me, like, to make everything about myself.
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A
Yeah. But I do feel like you would have been. You would, like, make something about yourself, but not in such an overt way. Like, they're in the green room splayed out. Like, you would be, like, hiding in the back signing books because you want to get the book signed, not, like, sitting. Like, that's embarrassing. So I. I believe Turdi. Nice damage. Okay.
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B
And by the way, I just. I swear on my life, and anyone.
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A
Who knows you would know that about you. Like, yeah, you want to get the book signed, but, like, not in someone else's green room.
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B
And everybody who knows me, like, knows if I did do that shit. Like I would say it like I would own it in a small way.
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A
I agree.
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B
I just want to go on record. I would let the record reflect. Like I did not ask.
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A
It was such a literary day yesterday because Dean and Becky were at your and Brian's event and we had just recorded redheads and so.
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B
Oh. Kind of like the new era of the redhead sort of like coming together.
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A
Yeah, it's all sort of falling into place.
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B
Just something to think about. Kind of like a coup de redhead coup to head.
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A
Also, what's so crazy is this month is our five year anniversary of the redheads.
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B
I don't believe.
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A
Is that the most shocking thing you've ever heard? We started in 2020.
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B
That's reminded me of the nostalgia quote like time is Flying Jacks.
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A
Five Years of the Redheads. We've done 62 books. 63 actually. Because I know we did turn his book as a bonus. We did Cameron counselor too. So 64.
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64.
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A
Which is just amazing. But we're coming up on seven years of toast in April. Right? We only did the toast for two years before I started the redheads. Like I guess because we do it every day and we did. Yeah, 500 episodes before I the redheads.
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B
I also like, I, I, I can't get into like how long we've been doing the toast.
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A
You can't get into at a glance.
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B
It'll turn into at a glance. And we don't have time for that because we have deer toasters, you know.
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A
And like we'll get to at a glance in our birth month, which is April. Like that's when we start to start looking at toast.
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B
Our birth month is coming up.
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A
What's our birthstone?
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B
That's a good question.
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A
Let me anniversary. We should like get matching jewelry with the toast birthstone. As long as it's a pretty one. Because my birthstone is not pretty. That's why I'm trying to get you.
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B
Know what the April birthstone is? It's very pretty.
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A
What is it?
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A diamond.
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A
Claudia. Let's get like diamond diamond necklaces. Let's get diamond necklaces to celebrate our seven year and you know, any excuse, you know, they say every seven years like you completely change as a person. Now I don't know if that means like when you turn 7 and 14 and 21.
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B
Right.
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A
But like every seven years is like a rebirth. So if we've been doing the toast for seven years, that will mean that like we are completely different people than the beginning. Which we are.
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B
We are. What Watch the first episode of the Toast if you can bear it it. We are different people.
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A
Yeah, but not even just physically. Like.
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B
No, I'm not even talking about physically, but obviously physically. Yeah, no, I, I, I actually you could, there is an amount of money you could pay me to watch that episode.
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A
I know, but do you ever watch those old episodes? Have you ever watched? Because I actually think you would be surprised by how good it is like, that you would like it more than you think that you would. Of course we're like cringe in our accents and like we say like so much. Not that we don't do all those things now, but we just did it differently back then. But every time I watch it, I'm like, oh my God, we're actually so cute. And I don't feel embarrassed.
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B
I haven't had that experience yet. But maybe it's because you're a little bit older than me and you're more mature.
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A
I think it's just because you, you refuse to watch.
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B
Refuse. I'm too filled with self hate to even reflect in a positive way, honestly. So like I can't do it.
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A
When is like your last. When what time period are you like? Okay, I'm good with that.
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B
If somebody sends me a clip or something from the apartment we got evicted in the studio with all the windows, I can watch that.
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A
Okay.
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B
We were very funny then.
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A
Like the Pink Throne era.
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B
The Pink Throne era. I don't relate to that person at all. Like I don't feel like that's me. Whereas when I see a clip of us in that studio with all the windows, I think I'm like, oh, yeah, that's like younger me.
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A
Yeah. Okay. That's cute. That's not so far off.
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B
No, no, it's not.
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A
So what's your birthstone? Ruby Pargie.
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B
What's yours?
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A
Yellow Topaz. Not the greatest. That's why when like all these birthstone trends, I'm like, oh, I could get like Harry's and Charlie's or Zach.
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B
Right.
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A
Our wedding anniversary.
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B
And that's why, that's why you have kids. Like if you hate your birthstone, you can do someone else.
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A
Maybe you could switch it up. Shake it up, Chicago.
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B
Well, we've got a great show. How are the stories? I know the deer toasters are fab. I can speak for that.
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A
The stories are rbg, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and really?
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B
No, I got it. Random but good.
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A
Yeah. Rbg. It's an RBG day.
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B
Rip Rip.
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A
Without further ado. Da da da. Do it. Is time for the Fast 5 stories that you need to know and the.
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B
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A
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B
No, it's insane. And not even size.
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A
Not small, medium, large, 21 inches.
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B
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A
Thank you. 25 tert.
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B
You're absolutely welcome. I am 25 years old. That is correct.
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A
So our first story, while it's not like the most breaking news bit of the day, like, it's something that I find deeply interesting on a number of levels. Meghan Markle has teamed up with Billie Eilish to give merch to a teen who lost their home in LA Wildfire.
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B
So, Meghan Markle, I have studied this video. Yeah, same when I saw it, I, I was like, it took me a second because she never posts on Instagram and when she does, it's like really tailored, pre made content. Not like an Instagram video.
- [27:01]
A
No. Like if anybody else posted this video, any celebrity influencer, like, it wouldn't be news, we wouldn't be talking about it. But this is the fourth post on Megan's Instagram and it is a video of her being very excited because she shares a story of how when she was in Altadena a few weeks ago and she was visiting the ashes and people's former homes, that there was a community, there was a young girl who was most upset because she got a Billie Eilish T shirt at a concert and she left it in the washing machine and the washing machine burned down and she lost that memory in that piece of merch. And so Megan, you know, reached out to everyone she knows to get to Billie Eilish to see if she could replace that shirt for the girl. And Billy and her team sent like a package of merch and this girl was going to be so happy, which is like a nice story.
- [27:45]
B
And like Billy's team went above and beyond, like signing records.
- [27:48]
A
Yeah, signing everything, of course. Like.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I just want to say This a dream. This is a great story for Billy. Like, Billy's having a good first day.
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B
100.
- [27:55]
A
She didn't even really have to do anything.
- [27:57]
B
Yep.
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A
The video is so crazy because, as I said, it's the fourth video that Meghan Markle's ever posted. This is, like, the first post on her feed. Like, about, like, even the service that they do, which they did a lot for the wildfires. They were visiting with families, and they were photographed doing this and that. And she doesn't take, like, you know, videos on her iPhone. Self. Video, selfie. Like, it was. Felt like an influencers. They wouldn't even post it to their feed. They posted to their story. Like, yeah, how did this make it to the grid? It was also very, like, edited in the sense that, like, every three weeks there was a cut, which I don't know if everybody notices stuff like that, but considering she's just, like, passively telling a story, I don't know why there had to be so many cuts. Like, what. Why couldn't this, like, be just, you know, a straight conscience?
- [28:38]
B
I'm very critical of when I see, like, podcast clips of people, like, cutting every three words. I'm like, can you not speak one sentence without cutting? I'm hyper aware of that, too. I think it's because of what we do for a living. I don't know if everybody else is, but I also, like, notice the amount.
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A
Yeah. Like, when I see influencers doing ads, like, when there are cuts every three words, it's like, you couldn't just, like, say it, you know, you couldn't say one sentence cut. Like, maybe I sometimes cut out, like, a pause or an.
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B
Or something.
- [29:00]
A
Oh, I always flub my words and I just do it again, like, cut. But this wasn't that. This was. She's just, like, telling a story, and there were so many cuts, and then it was posted, and it was just, like, so fudgeing random.
- [29:11]
B
It was so random. The sheer fact that this video made it to feed was, like, really freaking me out. One, because, you know, to do something nice like that, like, you do it just for. For the sake of doing something nice. Like, not for, like, posting about it on social media and bragging. And people are so tough on Megan that, like, you know, if you're a hater, your first thought is like, why can't you just do, like, an act of good without bragging about it? And then the other is like, okay, well, it's nice that you want to help people, but, like, you're using your platform to brag about helping one person with a T shirt. Like, when the devastation of the fires is so much bigger than that. Personally, I'm not in a Megan hating era. Like, I think she's hilarious and so crazy. Like, I don't even begin to understand her. Try to understand her. Like, why she would post this in feed. I could never tell you.
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A
Like, I understand if she wanted to post it because she thought it was a sweet story. Billy looks good. It's like, you know, just uplifting. Like, first of all, like, posted to stories.
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B
Yeah, it's so material for stories.
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A
And the thing is, like, her and Harry do a lot of community service. That is like their job. They are professional philanthropists. So it's not like she just did one good thing one time and felt the need to brag about it. But it's like, why now? Why this act of service? It's so random.
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B
And it's such a singular act of service. Because what they do helps millions. They're always raising money for, you know, the poor causes. Yeah, yeah. Not like one rando girl who by the way, is just as deserving of this act of service as anybody else. But it's like, I'm so confused.
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A
So confused. Like, and the fact that she was like, so impressed that her. She was able to reach Billie Eilish. She thinks it's. You are literally one degree of separation from Billie Eilish. I'm shocked. You didn't have her phone number, but someone, you know, obviously knows her.
- [30:54]
B
Yeah. That was like a little pick me when she was like. And I knew I like, wanted to try and get in contact with Billish, but, like, I had no idea where to start. It's like you're a former member of the monarchy. You can get in contact with whomever you want. You live in Montecito. Your neighbors are.
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A
Ellen.
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B
Like, it's so not hard. A Billie Eilish would have a hard time getting in touch with you.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You would not have a hard time getting in touch with Billie Eilish. Like, that was just a little like, can you stop acting like you're not a queen. You are a princess. Excuse me.
- [31:18]
A
Yeah, that was really weird. Like, all the celebrities know each like that was.
- [31:23]
B
They all have the same agents, managers. Someone's publicist is friends with the other person's publicist. Like, it's so connected.
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A
It's so connected. So.
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B
But acting like she was going on this arduous journey to get in contact with Billie Eilish when it pro. It could have taken her A total of seven minutes. Literally she just texts like her one person is like, who, who do we know that knows Billie Eilish or Phineas and, and it's done. Like that's it.
- [31:46]
A
Or their manager or their agent or their publicist, like, or like someone at their record label.
- [31:51]
B
Literally anyone. The Hollywood everyone's teams are like 50 people and so many of those team members work on multiple teams.
- [31:59]
A
Yes. However, so the, the posting of the video is kind of random, but I feel like if she's now getting into this like content creation era and like we can stuff like this all the time, then I guess this was just like kicking it off and this is what you want.
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B
God, I hope. Like, I loved seeing her being so real in her house. Like, not me. I was not even watching her in the video. I was like looking in the background. I just wanted to see different things in her house. If we could. If she's gonna use her Instagram as a window into her life, I'm so down.
- [32:26]
A
Right. But like that starts today. Like what's, what are we posting today? Tomorrow?
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B
She needs to have a constant stream of 24 hour stories.
- [32:32]
A
Right. But if like the next thing is in two weeks and it's another trailer for With Love Rando. Where does this fallen?
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B
I know. She looked so gorgeous.
- [32:41]
A
She is so gorgeous.
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B
She is so gorgeous. I was so. You know when you open your phone and it takes you like a second to register what you're seeing. Sometimes you get like a piece of crazy news and you're like not able to read the English that's in front of you. I was like, wait, this is Megan Markle doing a selfie. I just couldn't fathom it.
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A
No. And the, the COVID photo I think was the pile of stuff from Billie Eilish. So I'm like, what is this pile of stuff?
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B
Stuff. Not the pile of stuff, but really.
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A
Fantastic for Billy and the team forget. And then I'm happy for the girl. Like it's a nice story as we said.
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B
Of course.
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A
Just like a random bit of content.
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B
No. And it makes Billie look great. That like this piece of positive news about her is like put out. Not by her. Because there is a lot of criticism about celebrities who do, you know, charity, but then do press about it. Like that's un. Often like a criticism people make a lot of Taylor Swift when often she doesn't even share it. It just gets shared because she's so famous. And I mean, I get it. It's like definitely weird. It's just like, do the nice thing without, like, getting attention for it. So Billy got that. She. She didn't. You know, she was not a part of this announcement whatsoever. And now we're like, oh, look at Billie donating all this product.
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A
Yeah. Also speaking of Billie, I wanted to get your, like, ask what the streets are saying, because when Beyonce won album of the Year, Billie had tears in her eyes. Did you see that?
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B
I didn't.
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A
And at the time, I just kind of, like, thought maybe she was, like, so happy for Beyonce. But it's like Casey Musgraves got roasted because, like, she wasn't smiling big enough. Meanwhile, Billy was, like, crying. But was she crying because she lost her. She was so excited for Beyonce and her first win.
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B
Based on a lot of the research I've done post Grammys, when it comes to album of the year is that I can actually see Billie, like, having tears in her eyes. Because if there was a year for Billie to win the album, like, it was that. And how we're always saying, like, how Beyonce's year was the year they gave it to Beck.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it's like, Beyonce probably cried that year too. You know, I didn't see that. Let me just see. I'm gonna look it up.
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A
I don't know. You could read either way, but I was like, I'm just wondering which one it is. But then also you said, so, like, Billie Eilish was probably, like, the runner up for album of the year.
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B
Oh, I see.
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A
You see?
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B
Yeah. She does just have also, like, really piercing, like, the color of her eyes.
- [34:50]
A
But they look watery.
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B
They do. They do. And she has, like, a little bit of, like, a pursed lip when you're, like, trying to, like, swallow the lump in your throat.
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A
Is that crying Tears of joy for this icon getting her moment.
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B
I want to say no, like, honestly. And that's what I was saying about Casey Musgraves, too. Like, you could be happy for Beyonce and sad for yourself. That doesn't make you, like, a woman who doesn't support other women. It just makes you a human being who wanted to win an award like, that they were eligible for. I don't think that's crazy.
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A
Okay. Yeah, no, that makes sense to me. I was just.
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B
Oh, and by the way, she's 1000% crying. I'm gonna send you this particular video. Yeah, no, I know.
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A
Saw it. But why are people not saying, like, she's upset that she lost, like, just like they said about Casey Musgraves?
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B
Because I guess they're reading it as, like, Casey Being mad that Beyonce won while Billy's being sad that she lost.
- [35:35]
A
Yeah, Billy. Yeah. But I don't think that's also just people then projecting. Like, they just want Casey to be mad because they want Beyonce to not have deserved. Like, that's just.
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B
And I don't think Casey's reaction was malicious. I think if. If we're reading into anything, it's just, like, a sadness for yourself for losing. That's okay. I feel like these award shows, you're just conditioned to, like, be happy for the person who won and, like, really just be happy to be nominated. Like, it's okay to want big things for yourself.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
And I actually think she's 100 crying and. Yeah. I think that what I've learned. And I'm not like, a Billy Stan. Is that, like, her album was, like, a real top contender.
- [36:16]
A
Yeah. But then wouldn't Short and Sweet have been the runner up because it won Best Pop Vocal? And Short and Sweet beats right. Eilish for.
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B
Right. No, it's a good point.
- [36:25]
A
Was there any way Billie Eilish could have won Album of the Year without winning Best Pop Vocal?
- [36:29]
B
Yes. I think that it has probably happened before.
- [36:31]
A
Okay. But that's just, like. I just want to say it doesn't make sense to me.
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B
I. I'm in complete agreement with you, sister.
- [36:36]
A
Okay. Thank you. Unless it's about the vocals. You know, like, maybe they're saying that Billy's album could have been better, but.
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B
You know, maybe they say, like, yes, Sabrina's was more poppy, but it was a better pop album. But overall, Billy's was a better album. Like, you could make the argument for sure. And the people in the Grammys just make stuff up.
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A
Like, totally agree.
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B
Look at us. We're making stuff up.
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A
Like, it's true.
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B
I wouldn't. I wouldn't think too hard about it.
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A
Are you ready for our next story? Hoda Kotb is teasing her next project after leaving the Today show. And Joanna Gaines is involved, obsessed. So Hoda and Jenna posted a collab post, a photo of them hugging a carousel. And it shows them and Jenna. I'm sorry. Old habits die hard.
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B
Joanna.
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A
Hoda and Joanna. And they're in a studio and there's someone filming them. It's a carousel of photos. And Hoda said, remember I was talking about repotting. Gotta take first steps. We have something fun. Cooking. Come along on the great adventure. Stay tuned.
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B
Cooking.
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A
Love, Joanna Gaines.
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B
Cooking.
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A
Cooking. I don't know what they're doing together, but they're working on something.
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B
Okay, let me see. I'm looking at their photos. They're, like, working in this empty conference room with a laptop and a folding table, and they're being filmed. I have no idea.
- [37:51]
A
I feel like maybe it's an episode of Joanna's show, and she's redesigning Hoda's working space for the next chapter. Hoda.
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B
Oh, that's obviously what it is. Good call.
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A
Because, like, it looks like an office.
- [38:01]
B
It's like this empty, ugly office space. Yeah. With, like, dropping tile ceilings.
- [38:05]
A
So I guess then the next question is, like, what is Hoda doing in this office space? And she also talked about repotting, which I feel like is garden. No, I feel like it's, like a metaphor of, like, oh, blooming in a new plant.
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B
Yes, I agree. I agree. Oh, I thought it was like, a Easter egg. She has a gardening company, which also.
- [38:24]
A
Reminds me of moral of the story from yesterday's Redheads. But, of course, I don't want to spoil it.
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B
Thank you.
- [38:30]
A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
So what kind of company could Hoda be starting? I mean, she could do anything, but she's like, a woman in media. I feel like maybe, like, a little podcast of her own with, like, a little small media. Kind of like how Katie Couric has, like, Katie Couric media. She, like, makes Instagram reels, by the way. Do you see Don Lemon at the Grammys?
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A
No. I.
- [38:50]
B
Like, are you familiar with what Don Lamont is up to?
- [38:53]
A
He has. He's, like, a influence. He's like an Internet creator.
- [38:56]
B
Yes. He's like a tick tocker where he had, like, a really popular on the street mat, like, man on the street style series where he would, like, go up and ask people about random stuff. Some political, some cultural, like, and people really liked it. And it was like an introduction to a generation, like, that didn't know him. They didn't know this was, like, a guy who had a whole career at cnn. They just thought he was, like, some guy on the street, not, like, this journalist. And so he's, like, taking that to the Grammys now. He was on the Grammys, like, running after people, chasing them down. Like, Gracie Abrams with his little microphone being like, gracie, Gracie, what do you think about? And it was like, why are you working so hard?
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A
You know, I'm like, a big package.
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B
Yeah, right. No, not only that. Like, you are an accomplished journalist from, like, a big network like cnn. You were there for so many years, and now you're just, like, slumming it on Tick Tock with the Rest of us.
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A
Yeah. That's crazy.
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B
I found it really crazy, and I forgot that he was doing that. And then I saw a couple of his Grammys videos go viral. I'm like, oh, he got himself a press pass for the Grammys, and he stood at the front of the carpet and was just, like, actually hounding people. He's like a paparazzi now. Like, yeah, it was really crazy to see.
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A
That is surprising. But, no, I didn't see any of that content. I just, like. I guess I would have scrolled past it anyway.
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B
Yeah. It took me a second to realize it was Don Lemon. Yeah.
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A
Don't go to him for my pop culture news.
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B
No, no. And I don't. And that's the thing. He's still doing politics, so I don't know why he was at the Grammys. Like, I think he's having an idea. A crisis of identity.
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A
It happens.
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B
I mean, we've all been there.
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A
It looks like he needs some repotting.
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B
Maybe he could go to Hoda's new company for the.
- [40:24]
A
For the vase for the planter.
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B
Yeah. So I could see her doing a lot of things if it's just, like, a media. A media thing. Or maybe she wants to do something totally different, like a lifestyle, Martha Stewart vibe. I don't know.
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A
Yeah, I don't know. But I like this as a first step. Love, Joe.
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B
Yeah. I feel like Joe's always being spotted with celebrities, doing projects with them, and then we never get, like, the Roundabout. What happened with her and JLo, even though I think that wasn't filmed, that was just, like, a personal project that she wanted Joanna Gaines working on. Do you remember when they were, like, looking for houses in Malibu together?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, that wasn't for a TV show or anything. I just think JLo was using her for design.
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A
Oh, wow.
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B
Do you remember? Because we never saw it. Like, what was the wind up?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Huh.
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A
I forgot about that. Interesting.
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B
Elephants never forget.
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A
Are you ready for our next story? Brody Jenner.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Brody Jenner is saying, I don't get to go on my sister Kylie's private jet. So Brody Jenner is revealing, you know, some of the facts of his life in an interview with Bustle and how he does not benefit from his half siblings fortune and his dad's marriage. He said, kendall and Kylie are my sisters. We have the same last name, but we don't share a bank account. He said, I don't get to go on the pink jet, though. I would love to. So he's currently on Fox Special Forces and he made it clear that him and his brother are related to the billionaire family through their dad. Caitlin and Brody rejects the assumption that he's just a trust fund kid who doesn't have to work. He said, it's funny that people think that, because first off, my dad never gave any child support. It wasn't like we were getting any money from the Kardashians ever. According to the outlet, Caitlin's representative claimed Brody's mother, Linda Thompson, turned down the possibility of child support and alimony during her divorce from Caitlyn, formerly Bruce Jenner. Instead, she accepted an upfront payment to reflect 100 of their marital assets, which was millions of dollars. So, like, not.
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B
Oh, interesting, interesting. That's funny. I. I don't think of Brody Jenner as, like, a Nepo sibling or like, this Hollywood. I think of some. Him as somebody who. Who does have to work for a living as a reality star. I know he does, like, a lot of brand deal, a liquor company. I don't think of him like that. That must be, like, a stereotype that plagues him. And I want him to know, like, I don't feel like people think that about him.
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A
Yeah. But I feel like if he didn't do all this stuff, we might have, like, thought that about him. Like, when he came on the hills, like, you might have thought, like, oh, just a Nepo baby trust fund. Like, really?
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B
I feel like when you saw his house, you were like, oh, this is the house of a person who works for a living. Like, it wasn't crazy.
- [42:57]
A
I don't remember his house. But also, it doesn't help.
- [42:59]
B
I do. It was his house with Caitlyn.
- [43:02]
A
Oh. Oh. Oh, my God. Caitlyn.
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B
Yeah. It was just like a really small little ranch.
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A
I remember that house.
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B
Yeah. So it wasn't that of someone who had unlimited funds from, like, family.
- [43:12]
A
That was Hill's new beginning. I'm talking about, like, Hill's back in the day when he came on as, like, Brody Jenner and all the girls were fighting over him. He just came off of Princess of Malibu. And by the way, when you're on a show like that, you're not helping your case.
- [43:22]
B
No. But by the way, at the time, yeah, he was the son of someone very wealthy. You just said his mother got millions of dollars, like, so. Yeah. You were a wealthy kid.
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A
Yeah. I don't think he, like, sees it so much like that, but I can understand why people might have that idea of him.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it. Why can't he go on his sister's plane though. Like, aren't they friends?
- [43:45]
B
Special Forces is always making news.
- [43:47]
A
I know, it's kind of fabulous. I mean, that's like the same with traders. Always making news.
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B
By the way, did I tell you that, like, I got an initial, like reach out for Special Forces? Like, did I? Maybe there was a time in my life when I would have done it. Obviously not pregnant. And I'm not gonna like go to the middle of Australia and jump out of a helicopter when I got willing have a kid. If they reached out to me last year, maybe I would have done it.
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A
It's in Australia.
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B
I don't know. They always are taking them like somewhere crazy. And I saw Jojo Siwa jumping out of a helicopter into a lake. Like, you could not. The thing is, it wouldn't even be good for the networker. For me, I would be the first one to go home. I wouldn't even do the first challenge. Like, I'm out.
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A
No, that's. It's nice to be asked though that like your Special Forces caliber to be considered and. Yeah, I didn't realize that it's so intense. Like the, the training stuff seems fine. Like the physicality.
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B
I didn't even take the first meeting. I'm sure I wouldn't have even made it past like the first.
- [44:38]
A
Yeah, but.
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B
And I would never have been cast.
- [44:40]
A
Yeah, but still, it's an honor to be nominated.
- [44:43]
B
No, I was like me on a TV show. No, thanks.
- [44:48]
A
So that's sad that he's not like close enough with his, his half sisters to like go on the plane.
- [44:52]
B
Yeah. Because I feel like they have a good relationship. I feel like if it was Kendall's plane, like, maybe he would have a better chance of getting on it. Do you feel that?
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A
Yes. Because Kylie's just like with her friends and.
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B
Or I feel like. Does Brody have kids?
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A
He just had a baby. Yeah.
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B
I feel like if he had a kid who was like a similar age to one of Kylie's kids, like, maybe it would have bode well for them, but.
- [45:12]
A
No, but I can't see a world.
- [45:14]
B
In which they would take a trip together.
- [45:15]
A
No. There's like a two year difference probably between his baby and Kylie's youngest.
- [45:20]
B
And what do you think, like, the Jenner girls make of the Jenner boys? Like, it's their dads. I'm sure when they were growing up it was like, oh, dad's like other weird family. But now like, they're all grown.
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A
No, I feel like when they were growing up it's like dad like Dad's cool. Like, they were, like, so cool and handsome and older. Like, they were just like the cool older guys. Maybe they'll always see them that way. Maybe because Brody was super cool.
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B
All I think of is half chub.
- [45:45]
A
Of course, but that's what Kim would think of Brody. But think of, like, what Kendall and Kylie thought of their older half brother.
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B
And I guess Kim and Brody, like, Kim and those. And the girls, Courtney and Chloe, Rob and the Jenner boys have no relation. Like, no step dad. Right. No blood relation. But they were so close.
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A
They were.
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B
Caitlyn and Chris were married.
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A
They're step siblings.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then Kylie and Kendall are half siblings.
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B
But they really, like, in the early days of the show, so much has happened, so we really forget. But, like, before Caitlyn transitioned and Chris and Caitlyn were still married, like, they rode so hard for Caitlyn. Like, that's our dad. That's our dad. That's our dad. That's what makes the whole thing, like, even sadder.
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A
Caitlyn walked Kim down the aisle at her wedding to Kanye.
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B
To Kanye.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I don't know if I knew that.
- [46:35]
A
I'm pretty sure.
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B
I mean, that would make sense. Look. That's really sad.
- [46:41]
A
Yeah, it is really sad.
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B
And now that I'm rewatching Beverly Hills, when. And I. I. When Bruce was their stepfather, he was giving major Orson Hodge energy. Do you agree?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because he was, like, this buttoned up, like, freak who was, like, always, like, had. He, would, like, die on random hills, you know? Yeah. It's so. Orson.
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A
That's so funny.
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B
I just got to the episode last night where, spoiler alert. They find out Lynette has cancer, and it's like, as if this woman, like, hadn't. Didn't have a. Enough to deal with.
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A
Yeah. Oh, my God. I forgot about those times.
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B
And the way that they found out that she had cancer was, like, they were fighting really bad, her and Tom, because she, like, fell in love with the. With the pizza manager at the place. Remember? She was, like, flirting with him. She didn't, like, fall in love, but, like, she was, like, having fun. Because tomorrow Tom is, like, a big loser. And this guy made her feel, like, pretty and cool. She wasn't gonna do anything. She just, like, liked being thought of as sexy and whatever. And they had a really big fight about it, and he threw her off the bed, and she hit her head. And so she went to the hospital, and they found the cancer. Like, it was actually such a crazy turn of events. Oh, my Gosh the show is so good.
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A
Oh, my gosh.
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B
I dream of Desperate Housewives now. Like, my dreams are the characters.
- [47:52]
A
Oh, that's nice.
- [47:53]
B
It is a party place to dream.
- [47:55]
A
Fairview with Sara, Elaine.
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B
People are always like, claudia, are you gonna move to the suburbs? Like, what if. If Wisteria Lane existed, Fairview, Like, I'd be there in a second. It's gorgeous every day. But it's also on the East Coast. Like, it's a fake place. It's not meant to represent any particular city or state. But they do make it pretty clear because they're in close proximity to New York City that it's on the East Coast. But it's never rains, it's never cold. No one's ever wearing a jacket.
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A
Yeah. I wonder where that could possibly be.
- [48:26]
B
So I actually read, like, a fan fiction about based on all the clues where they think. And it's somewhere in Pennsylvania.
- [48:31]
A
Yeah. Because also it's called the Eagle State on their license plates in Fairview. And, like, that would be Pennsylvania.
- [48:39]
B
Yeah, there are a couple of clues, but it's still. It's really meant to be a completely mythical place.
- [48:43]
A
Yeah.
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B
Where I would love to live one day.
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A
Are you ready for our fourth story?
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B
Oh, my God. Four. No. Am I? No, no, no, no, no, no. Is it the fourth story that's brought to you by Charlotte Tilbury?
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A
Thank you. Slash church.
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B
Yeah. Welcome.
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A
Our next story, Denise Richards teases her and Charlie Sheen's daughters about having up parents in the first trailer for her new Bravo series. So I was shocked. I think we reported a while ago she was getting her own Bravo show. But, you know, that's like, this felt.
- [52:15]
B
So unfamiliar to me.
- [52:16]
A
No, I. It felt familiar in the sense that I feel like we were like, oh, go Denise. Like, you leave the Housewives and get your own show. That's what everyone thinks is going to happen when they go on Housewives and it never does. But then like to actually get to the point of film trailer and green light, like, we're on. So the first trailer for Denise Richards and her Wild Things dropped yesterday, and she is letting cameras into every aspect of her life with her three daughters and her husband Aaron. As her kids get older and her career continues to evolve, she's showing the ups and downs that come along with being a woman who does it all. She says, I'm just trying to balance everything. I'm an actress wife, the Hollywood thing. She is then shown with a bunch of different former Beverly Hills castmates. Camille Grammer, Garcelle, Kathy Hilton Sutton. Then Erica Girardi appears. They have long standing beef. We shall see what happens.
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B
This is really interesting because I feel like Denise was given such a raw deal on Housewives. Like, they really, all the women were, like, so threatened and jealous. Like, they just wanted her out and she, they made it so uncomfortable for her that she left. Like, and I feel like we really didn't get to see her potential. And even what we saw, like, I really enjoyed. I thought she was a great reality star and a great housewife. And there was much left unsaid. Having said that, I don't know if I'm totally interested in watching a show.
- [53:35]
A
Just about her and her girls who are like, yeah, you know, young women.
- [53:40]
B
They'Re always making news.
- [53:41]
A
They're always making News. One is 13, one is 20 and one is 19. So it'll probably be a lot about, like, them and their antics and then also, like, her mothering and then with a bit of Hollywood. I'm not, like, dying to watch it, but I could see it maybe doing well and being good.
- [53:59]
B
I also feel like it's kind of a new format for Bravo. They don't often do just, like, solo family shows. Don't Be Tardy. Famously.
- [54:06]
A
Yeah.
- [54:07]
B
But she was like, a real, real housewife. Like, Denise is a celebrity, so this is them giving, like, yes, she has, like, a tie to the Housewives, but she's really just like, a famous person getting her own show. And I feel like they don't do this a lot.
- [54:18]
A
No. But it is a good format that has worked really well for.
- [54:21]
B
For other networks.
- [54:22]
A
Kardashians, you know.
- [54:24]
B
Yeah. Living Low hand.
- [54:25]
A
A lot of people have tried it, and it didn't have that same success, so I could see this being like that. But don't be Tardy is actually a really good example of this being able to work.
- [54:34]
B
Don't be Tardy is one of the best shows on television. I didn't mean to get into this, and we don't have to, like, do, obviously, a whole dissertation, but just important reminder that, like, those women, like, they did that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And obviously they've fallen. You know, Kim's just going through a lot. I don't even. I. I can't even keep up with what's happening in her world. And it's not as glamorous as it once was. But I love that we have those, like, eight seasons, and they were really successful. Eight seasons. Like, I love that we have that kind of in stone memorialized in the form of a TV show.
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A
Yeah. And we'll always have that. And now we have.
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B
And they can't take that away from. They can't take that away from us.
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A
And now we have Denise Richards and her Wild things. So the show premieres on March 4th on Bravo. If that sounds interesting to you.
- [55:17]
B
It doesn't, actually. If I'm being like, now that I've really fully thought it through and I. And I loved Denise on the Housewives. Like, I can't stress that enough. This does not sound interesting to me.
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A
Okay, our fifth and final story. My girl Sabrina announces her short and sweet deluxe album featuring a Dolly Parton collab. So Sabrina shared with her fans yesterday that she is extending her short and sweet era and she's bringing one of her biggest heroes along for the ride. Yesterday, she announced that she's dropping a deluxe edition of her album featuring none other than Dolly Parton on a remix of Please, Please, Please. So some of the new tracks that she's adding for the deluxe album are like totally new songs that we. Good. I didn't heard yet. We need more short and sweet. Like it was a little too short and sweet.
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B
Agreed.
- [56:01]
A
Bonus tracks called 15 minutes couldn't make it any Harder, Busy Woman and Bad Reviews. And then also that's a lot. Yeah. Please, please, Please. Featuring Dolly Parton. I do feel like some of these songs aren't just songs that were left on the cutting room floor of. Of Short and Sweet. I feel like they were written after the album came out. Like I remember. I feel like she got bad reviews for maybe it was. When Please Please Please dropped as the second single. People were like, this is no Espresso. Like I feel like it might.
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B
I just feel like whatever we think the songs are going to be about, like the titles are always. They're not what you think. She's like very good with the words. She like flips it on its head. It has nothing to do with like, you know, music reviews, but it has more to do with like, I don't know, you know, she really is someone.
- [56:41]
A
Smart in bed or something.
- [56:43]
B
Yeah. By the way. Yes.
- [56:45]
A
Do you think 15 minutes is about 15 minutes of fame?
- [56:49]
B
I do, but. But maybe I'm wrong. Like she's always flipping words on their head to be fair. Exactly. I love that we're getting new music. I also like the point of what you had said is that maybe it's music that reflects the last year of her life. Barry Keoghan coded.
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A
But what I actually loved about Short and Sweet and what she had said was she finished the album Short and Sweet before Espresso even came out. So none of the album was trying to cater to the success of Espresso. She didn't write the songs to be like this could be like Espresso the next Espresso. Like it was done and dusted and in the canon like a moment in time. And it didn't have anything to do with the public reaction success, which I think was why it was so great. She just got to do her thing and not worry about how it would be received. So if these songs are from like the post launch era, they might be a little more catered to what she thinks people want which is never like a great place to be. But I trust in Sabrina, that's what I'll say.
- [57:47]
B
I love also Dolly throwing her hat.
- [57:49]
A
In the ring and on Please, please, please. So it'll be like a song me can enjoy for the second time, you.
- [57:54]
B
Know, Speaking of deluxe, I only am just now realizing with tortured Poets being submitted at the Grammys as an album. It was, you know. Cause she releases, like, four different versions of the album. And the first one had, like 10 versions, and then the deluxe one had 20. The one. The version that she submitted for the Grammys was the short one. The first one. Is that weird?
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A
It was short. The first one.
- [58:13]
B
The first version that came out is, like half the album.
- [58:16]
A
I'm going to look.
- [58:17]
B
Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Please ignore me. I think I'm getting confused with Midnights.
- [58:20]
A
Where she did like, 2 virgin, 2am yeah, because I don't even know. So here's Tortured Poets, the Anthology.
- [58:28]
B
It's not the Anthology.
- [58:29]
A
And here's Tortured Poets Department, the Anthology again. Maybe that's like clean versus not clean. I'm only seeing, like, one. I think there's just really one turtle and it was really long. The whole time.
- [58:43]
B
No, but the Anthology is the second volume. The second half. Hold on.
- [58:50]
A
The Tortured Poets Department, not the Anthology. Okay, here's regular. So many. Yeah, it goes all the way down to Clarabo. Oh, I guess it is much shorter. No, you're right. Like, no Peter, no Paul, no Black Dog.
- [59:02]
B
No. High School.
- [59:04]
A
Yeah. Chloe or Sam. Cassandra Bolter. Robin, Manuscript. People's Windows, Amy.
- [59:12]
B
Yeah. Okay, so the Torture poets department had 16 songs. Then the anthology that she released after had 31.
- [59:19]
A
Yeah, I didn't know that was.
- [59:21]
B
Right. I did. So I guess it's so confusing.
- [59:24]
A
I've never really gotten into the anthology.
- [59:26]
B
I could say, oh, my God, it's the better part.
- [59:28]
A
I thought I was saying, like, the second half. Now I realize, like, I just never. I never really got past the first half. Just.
- [59:36]
B
Well, like, you have work to do.
- [59:37]
A
I know it's always waiting for me, but I just. I always start the album after Fortnite. Of course, I start on Tortured Poets and. And then I'm, like, satiated by the time I get to 16. 16?
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B
Was that the fifth story?
- [59:52]
A
That was the fifth story. New Sabrina, earlier than expected.
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B
It's time for your toasters. The best part of the week is sometimes it happens Tuesdays, sometimes it happens Wednesdays. But it happens. Okay? That's what. That's what counts. And it's our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I do our absolute best to help the swirlies in need. So if you are ever looking for advice from us about dating, relationships, work, drama, whatever it is, email us dear toasters@gmail.com or simply head over to our website, the toast podcast.com. this little submission box, when you scroll down Both means of submitting are completely anonymous. You have nothing to worry about.
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A
Out.
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B
Let's dive in. Hello, swirlies. I'm having a dilemma about my friend. I, 23, have known my best friend, also 23, for about a decade now. Over the course of our friendship, she's dropped little hints that she has suspicions that her and her sister do not share the same father. She has given me many examples as to why she believes this. They all seem strong in her and I back up her theory. I have since found out via my family, who has apparently known about this for a while, that it is in fact true. They just never told me because I never brought it up to them. Her family has been quick in shutting down the theories and the questions that she's asked. And she clearly wants. They clearly want her not to know for whatever reason. But now I know. Do I tell her? Is it none of my business? I don't want to involve myself in someone's family drama, but I feel bad knowing this while she's left in the dark. Please help. That's really tough.
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A
That is really tough. I feel like she would be able to find this out for herself, you know, like a.
- [61:13]
B
Why don't you just help her find out? Like find out a piece of information from your family and then like lead her to the trail.
- [61:19]
A
Yeah, yeah, I agree. But then if she ever found out that you knew and you didn't tell her, well, you could always be like, I didn't want to be the. Like, if your own parents won't tell you, like, why is it right her to tell her? But I wanted to help you if it is true. See the light. I don't know.
- [61:36]
B
I think sound kind of sounds like a plot on Desperate Housewives.
- [61:40]
A
Yeah, I think help her find out. But then you're just being so disingenuous.
- [61:46]
B
Like when you honestly just tell her.
- [61:49]
A
Yeah. It's also like a lot of work. Help her find out. Yeah.
- [61:52]
B
No, and it's like, what do you owe her parents loyalty for? Like, that's your friend. 10 years. Like, tell her.
- [61:58]
A
Yeah. And just be like, this is what I heard. This is what I know. You know, could not be entirely true. You should go and confirm.
- [62:04]
B
Oh, and by the way, don't give up your sources because then you're get your family in trouble. That's when it becomes a mess.
- [62:08]
A
Like all the people in the town and the friends and the neighbors know, but their own daughters, they can't know about themselves.
- [62:13]
B
Complicit.
- [62:14]
A
Everyone's like talking about you knows More about you than you know about yourself.
- [62:18]
B
Terrible feeling.
- [62:19]
A
Just tell her.
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Just tell her. But just be careful how you tell her in terms of like getting other people like involved and like liable. Liable.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But I think you could tell her.
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A
Yeah, it's not like she already knows.
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B
Normally I agree, like let's not blow, you know, the house, burn the house down. But like sometimes, you know what? Give me the matches.
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A
No, but it's like she already really knows. If she had no idea, never spoke about this. But you just found out that her and her sibling have different.
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B
That's true.
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A
Then I wouldn't upend her whole life, but she pretty much knows. She's just looking for confirmation. So just give it to her.
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B
And so you are the confirmation.
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A
Yeah.
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Okay. I just found out about my husband's porn and cross dressing addiction six months ago, right after we got married. I knew about the porn addiction. He had always told me that he hadn't been seeking that out every time I ever asked. And he's been lying. He has managed to hide the cross dressing from me for our entire six year relationship. He agreed to go to therapy and work through the addiction. But a few days ago I had this weird gut feeling and I went through his phone to find out that he had been sending himself sexy videos of other women on Instagram, not technically point porn, which he pointed out to me. He's promised to take therapy seriously this go around, but I'm really just finding it hard to trust him. I come from a very conservative family. I don't want my initial resolution to be divorce. Now I'm not so sure. Does he deserve another chance? What should I do? I just feel like the cross dressing is. Is very interesting to me. I didn't know you could have like a cross dressing addiction. I feel like cross dressing is like the beginning step of discovering something about your gender or your sexuality. Or maybe that's my limited knowledge from.
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From Caitlyn Jenner's documentary on Diane Sawyer. Yeah.
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B
Which was amazing. And the girls had said that there were a couple of times in their childhood they walked into the garage and Caitlyn was cross dressing before she transitioned. So I feel like it's admirable that you wanted to work it through the first time and a porn addiction. I think actually a lot of people's husbands suffer from porn addiction in this day and age. It's like really kind of common because it's so accessible and people work through it and get to the other side. Like it's really, it's nothing to be.
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A
Ashamed of, like, something you can, like, heal from and rehabilitate if you are looking to do that. So I actually don't think that that's like, a total deal breaker if he really is committed to getting help.
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B
But the cross dressing and the hiding things from you and, like, seeking out different porn on social media, like, this is concerning behavior.
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A
Yeah. But maybe the cross dressing, hiding social media, like, has to do with a larger porn addiction. And so I would first tackle that and then see, because they're definitely, like, you should look into.
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B
How does cross dressing have anything to do with pornography?
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I don't know. Like, I. I think. I don't know.
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B
And cross dressing is just like, when you dress up like a woman. Right. Or vice versa.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Wearing clothes of the opposite sex. Yeah. Okay.
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A
So I would start with the porn addiction.
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B
Really, I wouldn't. The porn addiction is so not concerning to me. Like, obviously it's not great, but it's really something you can work through. And I think it's something really common in this day and age. And I think having an addiction to cross dressing is indicative of, like, a larger life change that this person might need to be going through.
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A
Maybe not. I mean, you're just talking about Caitlyn Jenner, because we have that one.
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B
Yes. And that's my only frame of reference. So of course that's honest to mind.
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A
Same. But I do think some people, like, might just cross dress and it ends there. I don't know, but I think so. Otherwise, like, cross dressing wouldn't just be a singular thing. It would be, like.
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B
Right.
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A
So I don't know. But I think you have to have a lot of the conversation, like, honest conversations with him, like, just asking him to be honest about how he's feeling. Maybe it's couples counseling where, like, a counselor can kind of draw that out of him so you can understand, like, how he's feeling and what he's looking for.
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B
Yeah. And, you know, maybe he likes to do drag. I actually have on Drag Race, there was a straight contestant once.
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A
So anything is possible.
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B
Let me tell you. Nobody, none of the other contestants could get over it. Like, they seriously, they couldn't stop talking about it.
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A
I think I would say couples counseling for this.
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B
Yeah. I also just feel like the issue is, is that this person isn't honest and probably not even honest with themselves.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So it's going to take a long time to get to resolution if there is going to get. And it's like, seriously, you need to think, is this worth your time?
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A
But she doesn't want to get divorced. Like, she wants to make it work. So like, I think you have to take steps towards making it work while also. And I think he needs to be rehabilitated for his porn addiction.
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B
Okay, but like, what if this young, sprightly woman, like, spends years in therapy with this guy just to end that? Like, he wants to transition to being a woman and that's not something she's like, wants to stick around for. And it's like, how much time are you gonna. Because this person's like a, like also a liar. Like, that's the hard part about these things. It's like the fact that this person who's your husband is keeping so many things from you and like, you know, let you go through with a wedding without sharing this huge part of himself. Like, that to me is the bigger betrayal. I don't give a. That you're dressing up as a woman. Like, it's. You're lying to me.
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Yeah.
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B
So like, I don't know. I could see him being really stubborn in therapy and he's done it before and not taken it seriously. So what, you're going to go to couples therapy, spend all this time and for what? For maybe potentially no resolution.
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A
So you're saying cut and run. They don't have kids, but they are married.
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B
I'm not saying cut and run. I'm just saying I need you to look inward because. Are you just doing this because you come from a conservative Christian family and you don't want to get divorced or because you really love this person and.
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A
You don't want to get divorced also? Yeah. Also ask like, do you like your relationship and you want to keep it enough. But they're married, but they don't have kids.
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B
Correct. She. And she didn't mention any kids.
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A
And like if she wants.
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B
And they got married six months ago. So if she's super conservative, maybe she could be six months pregnant. But no, I don't think they have.
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A
Any kids if she wants to have kids. And yeah, it just depends like what, what your priorities are here. Is it making the marriage work? Is it it?
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B
Yeah. Is it making the marriage work because you love the marriage?
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A
Right.
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B
Or making the marriage work so as not to disappoint your family?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Third and final. Hey, Jackson Turdy, need your advice. This is, this is so crazy. Okay, my C section for my second child is scheduled for the end of March. It happens to be the same day as my sister in law's birthday who's in her late 30s. I recently received a very bizarre text message from her going over some of the potential challenges of sharing a birthday. When I read this, I was so confused and then in shock. Is she really getting bent out of shape over having to share her birthday with a future niece? Quick backstory is that I had a very traumatic delivery with my first child. My son and I are very lucky to be here. That being said, I have a lot of nerves and anxiety around this delivery. I did not have much say in the matter of scheduling the C section. I went based on the recommendations of my doctor. And that's it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Do I ignore her texts? Do I let it go? Do I respond back to her? I'm afraid I'm gonna snap because I have zero patience for this selfish and silly text. It's the last thing I'm worrying about right now. But is it worth causing potential family drama?
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A
I would write back, grow up. That's it.
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B
Like, there is seriously a special place in a mental ward for, like, older people who are crazy about their birthdays. Like, birth week. Oh, I. You. You have until your 21st birthday. I'll be generous. 21st birthday to act like that. Yeah, I was gonna say 16, but.
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A
Even someone who's turning 21, like, wouldn't mind sharing a birthday with their niece, and it sounds like she's crazy. There's no way you guys are that close. That, like, this day is going to be a conflict for anyone. And if it were to be a conflict, like, what a simcha. What a joy. So many birthdays, so many kids. Like, I would just write that. Grow up. If it escalates, take all your pregnancy rage out on her. Like, you have a. We were just doing nagging wife. When you're pregnant, you have carte blanche to do whatever the fudge you want, even when you're wrong. But here, you're right. This. I would just. I would go at it for sport.
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B
I agree. This is such. And I just want to validate you completely. This is the craziest thing.
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A
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
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B
Especially, and I appreciated your backstory. Your context.
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A
Like, that backstory makes it even crazier. But even if this was none of those things and low risk and your.
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B
Doctor scheduled, imagine if I said, hey, Dr. Fox, can you actually induce me on November 7th. November 6th is Jackie's birthday. He would be like, okay, freak. Like, it's humiliating. Grow up is the perfect response.
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A
That's all I would say, grow up. Don't even put a period. Because that, like, shows that you're mad, you know.
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B
Agreed. This is such crazy behavior and I would love an update. Also, I did check this morning. We have not received an update from the girl whose husband was taking naked photos of her and those other two wives. I did check. I'm sure she's still working through it. Yeah, I'm sure it's been a really difficult time for her and she will reach out when the time is right.
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A
And hopefully in better times, of course. Oh my God. That just gave me a pit again. I had forgotten, like, momentarily.
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B
I. I remember. Every Tuesday or Wednesday.
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A
Yeah, no, same.
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B
Well, that's our show, you guys. Apology Wednesday.
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A
Apology Wednesday.
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B
Anything else?
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No, that's all from us.
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B
Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the. The Millennial Morning Show.
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A
Rolling up my sleeves for the big.
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Oh, I like. I like, got off of my rhythm and I forgot. Thank you for listening to those Millennial Morning Show. Wait. Thank you for listening to the Toast, the Millennium Millennial Morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday, the Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe or give this video a thumbs up. We are also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found, set Spotify itunes, Stitcher Public Radio. I have Radio Castbox all the places. Wherever you listen to podcasts, find us the Toast. Leave a five star review about a beautiful, stunning and wickedly party. We are.
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Love you dearly.
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Bye.