Back to Basics: Wednesday, October 29th, 2025

Summary

The Toast – “Back to Basics: Wednesday, October 29th, 2025”

Hosts: Jackie Oshry & Claudia Oshry
Episode Date: October 29, 2025
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Episode Overview

In this lively Wednesday episode, Jackie Oshry returns as co-host alongside her sister, Claudia Oshry, for a reunion filled with nostalgia, pop culture, TV recaps, and signature banter. They catch listeners up on Jackie’s maternity leave, recent TV obsessions (especially the latest on Dancing with the Stars), viral weddings, and dish the “Fast 5” stories of the day including celebrity relationship updates, sports news, and the much-anticipated deep dive into Dancing with the Stars: Halloween Night.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jackie Is Back (and Pregnant as Hell)

• Jackie returns to co-host after starting her maternity leave, revealing her baby is taking its time (“the baby didn’t really get the notice that the leave started” – Jackie, 02:16).
• Claudia teases Jackie for always being drawn back to the mic:

  "You just can’t keep me off this mic." – Jackie, 02:19

• Nostalgic talk about their childhood game, Jacks—complete with a pitch for Tiffany-made sets and sleepaway camp memories.

2. Maternity, Motherhood, and Big Babies

• Jackie shares candidly about late pregnancy, her rare conditions, and the unexpected extension of her maternity leave.
• Clemency for “cervical incompetence queens” everywhere, as Jackie remarks on her resilience:

  "Listen, the fact that you’re a cervically incompetent queen and we’re just making it till the very end—it’s amazing." – Claudia, 04:43

• Jackie discusses her history of having large babies, jokingly campaigns for more credit:

  "I don’t get enough credit for the fact that I birthed Charlie at 9lbs 5oz… That’s crazy stuff." – Jackie, 05:19

3. Dancing With the Stars TV Recap (Starting ~06:00)

• Discussion around “final, final” podcasting before maternity wraps, as Jackie’s appearance coincides with Jennifer Affleck’s DWTS exit.
• Jackie was right about Jennifer Affleck’s readiness to leave the competition:

  "She was not acting like someone who wanted to be voted for… She had her soft smile on all night. She wasn’t even faking the megawatt smile. And I was like, Jen, I hear you. We’re done here." – Jackie, 06:45

4. Ina Garten/Back to Basics Binge & Thanksgiving Planning (09:00)

• Both hosts are deep into Ina Garten: Back to Basics, critiquing wild recipes (sausage and grapes) and production values as seasons progress.

  "Back to basics—and there was nothing basic about that! It was crazy." – Claudia, 08:58

• Jackie reveals she’s hosting Thanksgiving, planning the menu and shopping for autumnal dishware (strong anti-turkey-plate take).

  "Let’s get autumnal plates… that way you can use them for a couple of months." – Claudia, 10:22

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The Fast 5 Stories (Starts at 18:29)

1. Jacob Elordi and Olivia Jade Split—for Real This Time (~18:29)

• The split is “over for good.” Claudia is adamant Olivia can do better and credits Jacob for helping rehabilitate her post-scandal image:

  "When we all talk about Olivia Jade, like we don’t even talk about [the college scandal] anymore." – Claudia, 19:07

• Speculation about Olivia’s next romantic chapter, rooting for a “businessman beau” a la Elliot Grainge.

2. Dorothy Wang’s Lavish Italian Wedding & Conversion (~21:25)

• Dorothy Wang (Rich Kids of Beverly Hills and Bling Empire) married Brandon Yankowitz in Florence, with culturally rich celebrations.

• Claudia emphasizes Dorothy's intense wedding prep and "zero notes" on her looks ("if she has no fans, I’m dead… obsessed with her" – Claudia, 22:55).

• Deep dive into Dorothy’s legit conversion to Judaism:

  "She did a hardcore real conversion. She has a Hebrew name. It's Dahlia." – Claudia, 23:21

• Noted absence of Morgan Stewart and possible Rich Kids drama, with speculation over guest list politics.

3. Royals at the World Series: Meghan & Harry’s Low-Key Date Night (~26:40)

• The pair’s attendance brings pop culture visibility to the World Series (“It’s just another Dodgers game”—Jackie, 27:40).
• Both hosts confess to only being aware of the World Series because of this sighting.

4. Taylor Swift Laying Low at Travis Kelce’s Football Games (~31:47)

• Taylor’s low profile attributed to both safety concerns and potential impact on Travis’ performance.

  "It’s like awkward when you get home… She did escape that [curse]” – Claudia, 33:07

• Discussion includes pop culture references to Jessica Simpson/Tony Romo and humorous “plastic surgery hiding” theories (“She’s committing to the bit”—Claudia, 34:33).

5. Dancing with the Stars Halloween Night—Eliminations, Drama, and Major Recap (~42:42)

• Recap covers shocking elimination of Jennifer Affleck, injuries (two contestants hospitalized), the energy of “monster dance-a-thon”, and harsh but fair judging.

  • Notable quotes:

    "If anyone’s allowed to be harsh, it’s [Cheryl Burke]… she was speaking English to me." – Claudia, 43:12
    "I say this all the time. Certain people, when they have, like, a moody dance, they turn the lights—turn the lights on." – Jackie, 43:33

• Detailed rundown of contestants, key dances, voting dynamics, favorites to win, and judge drama—plus fan theories and production gossip (e.g., "Robert and Whitney—ABC would want them to win" – Jackie, 53:02).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Podcasting While Pregnant:
  "It just would be so crazy if you podcasted the day you went into labor. Like, it’s so us." – Claudia, 04:06

• Thanksgiving FOMO:
  "If I get Thanksgiving plates means I’m hosting every year." – Jackie, 10:15
  "Let’s get autumnal plates… the plates still get some use if you make a chili." – Claudia, 10:22

• On Social Media Hate and DWTS Voting:
  "She is getting a lot of hate. It’s so unwarranted… This girl is the best dancer…" – Jackie (on Whitney Levitt), 45:38

• Sausage and Grapes Revelation:
  "I want to know, like, why." – Claudia, 08:52
  "Back to basics—and there was nothing basic about that! Like, it was crazy." – Claudia, 08:58

• On Dororthy Wang’s Wedding Attire:
  "She had to step her pussy all the way up for this wedding. Because, like, those who dish it have to be able to take it." – Claudia, 22:52

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Timestamps by Topic

• [00:23] – Jackie Returns from Maternity Leave
• [01:08] – Sleepaway Camp & Jacks Game Nostalgia
• [04:04] – Pregnancy, Labor Watch, and SPD
• [05:05] – Not Getting Enough Credit for Big Babies
• [06:22] – Dancing with the Stars Jen Affleck Deep Dive
• [09:00] – Ina Garten Binging & Thanksgiving Menu Planning
• [13:21] – Back to Basics on HBO Max, Netflix Bans
• [18:29] – Fast 5 Stories Begin
• [18:29] – Jacob Elordi/Olivia Jade Split
• [21:25] – Dorothy Wang’s Wedding & Conversion
• [26:40] – Meghan Markle & Prince Harry at World Series
• [31:47] – Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce: Security, Privacy & Speculation
• [42:42] – Dancing with the Stars Halloween Recap

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Flow, Tone, & Final Thoughts

The episode is peppered with witty asides, supportive sisterly ribbing, and pop culture references. Jackie and Claudia switch from deep personal chat (pregnancy, family, holidays) to their signature “girlie” TV analysis and influencer insights. Their dynamic, occasionally finishing each other’s sentences, is lively, candid, and engaging for both dedicated and casual listeners.

Jackie’s participation feels like a “full-circle” moment both for her impending maternity leave and their long-running TV recaps, especially with the DWTS symmetry between Jennifer Affleck’s goodbye and Jackie’s next chapter.

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For listeners:
This episode is a balance of easygoing catch-up and incisive pop culture commentary. Expect deep dissection of Dancing with the Stars, honest talk on influencer parenting, inside jokes, and plenty of strong opinions—delivered with the Oshry sisters’ unfiltered energy.

(Advertisements, sponsor reads, and non-content sections have been omitted for clarity and brevity.)

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies.

[B]

It's the toast.

[A]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 things you need to know.

[B]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

[A]

I sound amazing.

[B]

Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day. And it is so appropriate that my guest co host today is no guest of all she's roamed these halls. Someone's cooked here before. It's Jacqueline Foley. Free bush. Yeah, that's right. Jax's backs pregnant as hell.

[A]

Favorite Jerome dairy is back for hump day.

[B]

Yes. Okay, not my clue. Everybody knew my clue. But there were a couple of people and I thought this might throw people off. I thought maybe Jack.

[A]

I think that would be the only other guess. Unless you don't know Jax.

[B]

Like who doesn't know Jack?

[A]

No, like Jax. Jax is of playing Jax. Of Jax.

[B]

Playing of the game Jacks.

[A]

The game of Jacks.

[B]

Such an underrated game. If my back wouldn't give out, I would play Jax right now.

[A]

If there was a way to play, like in a seated tabletop chair, it would be the best game ever. But you have to play on the floor. And for that reason, I'm out.

[B]

And something like just thinking about we played Jax is such a sleepaway camp game. So if you didn't go to sleepaway camp, you might not know Jax.

[A]

Right? That's what I'm saying. Like you might not know Jax.

[B]

It's not like Monopoly. It doesn't have that sort of universal brand awareness. But when I think back to like the years and summers I spent playing Jax, like, I think that playing Jax was the happiest I've ever been in my whole life. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We need to play Jax when I come visit you. I'm bringing Jacks.

[A]

That's it. I have a good floor for Jax.

[B]

I feel like I also like two summers ago when we spent the summer together in the Hamptons, I bought jacks. Nobody played it.

[A]

Like you have to get the right jacks. Cuz some jacks are not crap plastic.

[B]

No, no, we want metal ones. Sterling silver.

[A]

Little ones are not good.

[B]

No, we need Tiffany's to make jacks.

[A]

Yeah, we need the best in the biz. But speaking of jacks. Yes, I am backs for today.

[B]

Jacks.

[A]

So I had started my maternity leave and the maternity leave had. Hasn't started.

[B]

Like the baby didn't really get the notice that the leaves started.

[A]

And like Claude is just like doing episodes and I was like I could, you know, pop in on if you need me. So we made a plan to do it together, so I'm excited. You just can't keep me off this mic.

[B]

Shout out to Taylor Strecker for taking the boot like a champ. She knows that she'll be back. And also, she doesn't watch Dancing with the Stars. And I felt like after last night's episode, like, I need to talk about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's better that I save her for, like, a Tuesday.

[A]

Yeah. We also podcasted yesterday. Like, I just won't stop podcasting. They can't.

[B]

You can't get off the mic.

[A]

You can't shut me up. We did a Patreon episode yesterday of, like, a full catch up of the last four days. Because, I mean, I don't know how I.

[B]

You haven't been here.

[A]

I don't know how, like, I breathe and then don't podcast about it. It's really hard when we, like, are off and I'm like, all these thoughts I have are things that I do. I'm like, who do I tell? Did it even happen?

[B]

Not to, you know, like, make everything about me, but I've done two guest co host episodes, and, like, I'm so tired.

[A]

She needed a break.

[B]

Insane how much work it is. Like, this feels. This is my job right here, right now. This feels like a day off, you know, it feels like a short week. Yeah. Like, I don't make me go back tomorrow, even though actually tomorrow's host slays, like, big time.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Tomorrow's host slays big time. And also, you guys, my iPad case materialized, so I had to.

[B]

She had to come back just to.

[A]

Show you that I knew that it would. I knew that I didn't lose it. I just misplaced it. And it has materialized two months later and my mic flag is still off. I'm.

[B]

That's okay.

[A]

I'm still, like, on workers comp for that. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I just wanted to bring my iPad case back, so I came back.

[B]

And how are you feeling about, like, labor? You feel like it's gonna be. I feel like it's gonna be this afternoon.

[A]

You do?

[B]

Because it just would be so crazy if you podcasted the day you went into labor. Like, it's so us.

[A]

It's so us. No, at this point. Well, like, for the last few weeks. And also, like, with my spd. No, actually with my cervical incompetence, my other, you know, ailment, the risk is always, like, going into labor too soon with that. So, like, that's always so. I just always feel like I'm gonna go into labor and like, now I'm just like, you know what? Maybe I'm not. Maybe I have three more weeks.

[B]

Oh, you're reverse psychologying the baby.

[A]

No, I'm not. I'm just like, okay, you win. Like, maybe I have three more. Like, I have three more weeks. Con.

[B]

Listen, the fact that you're a cervically incompetent queen and we're over here, like, just. It's making it till the very end. It's amazing.

[A]

I. I'm. I'm thrilled to bits.

[B]

Yeah. No, it's huge. It's like this baby Slade.

[A]

Yeah. Like, no eviction from me. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Take your time. Trust the process.

[B]

And how big was baby the last time he was weighed big.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's really crazy. Like a couple of pounds more than Ruby was when he was born.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have huge babies. You don't get enough credit for that.

[A]

I know. I don't get enough credit for the fact that I birthed Charlie at 9lbs 5oz. And I do feel like I should. That's on me. That I should bring it up more in every thousand percent conversation.

[B]

I blame you.

[A]

So this is me, like, using my platform. So you guys know, like, nine and a half pound baby, like, things I did.

[B]

And what about Hoocha? Hoochalooch?

[A]

Harry was 7 pounds, 14 ounces, which is average. Average. Yeah. So we'll see what's in store. But, like, yeah, I just feel like I don't get enough credit for that, and I'm not annoying enough about it, and I really should be because that's crazy stuff. Yeah, that's really crazy stuff.

[B]

Well, we're so glad to have you here. Like, seriously can't thank you enough. I know the hardest part of, like, podcasting is getting up, getting dressed, and walking up your stairs. And so, like, we appreciate you. We need you. Especially after last night's Dancing with the Stars episode. It's only right that, like, your final, final episode be discussing Jen Affleck, like, the end of her postpartum journey on Dancing with the Stars. As her postpartum journey ends, yours begins.

[A]

That my final episode will be justice for Jen Affleck. I. I'm not happy to have been right about what I've been saying all season, but it seems as though I've been right about something. That something. She was so sad last night. I.

[B]

She wasn't even sad. She was done.

[A]

I actually, for the first time, did not vote for her because I Did not think she wanted to be voted for.

[B]

I think she was the kind thing to do.

[A]

She was not acting like someone who wanted to be voted for. Like, usually you go up to the voting booth and you're like, vote for. And she was just like. She had her soft smile on all night. She wasn't even faking the megawatt smile. And I was like, jen, I hear you. We're done here.

[B]

Yeah, she was very defeated. So is there a TV recap?

[A]

Is there a story? Yeah. Fifth and final story going into TV recap of dancing.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Dance with the Stars will be our fifth story. I feel like that's been working for the group. I haven't seen any complaints, which is shocking.

[B]

Yeah, no, I. I like that. I like that.

[A]

And then what else? I watched a little more Aina to lull me to sleep last night. She was doing Thanksgiving sides. I was getting inspired.

[B]

Oh, I've seen that episode.

[A]

I was getting inspired.

[B]

I also fell asleep to the Sweet sounds of Ms. Garden. What was she. Oh. Oh, she made the most. Yeah, Shaggy. She most. Made the most insane dish.

[A]

What did she make?

[B]

I was barely watching, and then I look up and I'm like, is that a plate of sausage and grapes? It was the biggest plate of huge sausage, like, garnished with grapes. It was really gross. She's really insane.

[A]

Was the sausage. Did it have a special name? Like.

[B]

Yes, it was sausage.

[A]

It was. Did it start with, like, a K? I don't know, because a couple episodes that I've watched, she's, like, cooking this, like, special sausage.

[B]

Oh, no, that's not Kilimanjaro. But, like. Yeah. Wait, wait. It's kind of like that place, like, kielbasa. Wait, is that right? Hold on. Sausage.

[A]

That's. She's always with a K. We're not. She put kielbasa on everything.

[B]

Okay. But then I also wanted to look up in a garten. Sausage and grapes. Oh, look, I'm not the only person. Roasted sausages and grapes recipe. She's so disgusting. Oh, yeah. And the picture is exactly what she made. It was red and green grapes in this, like, sausage sauce.

[A]

That's really crazy.

[B]

Watch. This is, like, a cultural dish, and I'm being offensive. I'm sorry.

[A]

It looks disgusting. Culture, right?

[B]

I just. I want to know, like, why.

[A]

Yeah. Which show were you watching?

[B]

Back to basics. And there was nothing basic about that. Like, it was crazy.

[A]

Yeah. I had to go find, like, another season of.

[B]

Yeah, we season hop as well.

[A]

Yeah. My season was no longer cutting it for me. She made, like, a crab dip nacho.

[B]

Okay. So as the seasons go on, you could see she gets really desperate. Yeah. There's so.

[A]

So many things you can cook, but, like, cook it again. I don't care.

[B]

I know. And there's 18 seasons, so it's, like, hard to do basics 18 times. So the beginning episodes are better recipes, lower quality, but it's, like, the 80s, so it's, like, really blurry. And then you get later, and it's super high quality. She's got, like, fancy guests, and she's making sausage and grapes. Like, you can't win.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But I was enjoying Thanksgiving. I. I'm hosting Thanksgiving this year, which I really.

[B]

But did you talk to Olivia about that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We have. We're aligned.

[B]

Okay. Because she's making the turkey. Jackie's. Okay.

[A]

That's how we do it here.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

In Florida, Liv makes the turkey, I make the sides, and I, like, I'm excited to host here. And I'm already, like, buying.

[B]

Love that.

[A]

Like, I've been on Williams Sonoma, and it's like, do I take the plunge and get Thanksgiving plates?

[B]

I mean, you live in a house, so, like, why'd you move to a house if you're not gonna get Thanksgiving plates?

[A]

I know, but that. Then maybe I'm hosting every year. If I get Thanksgiving plates means I'm hosting every year.

[B]

No, so I think let's not get Thanksgiving plates.

[A]

Not turkey.

[B]

Let's get autumnal plates. Like, that way you can use them for a couple of months. And if you don't host Thanksgiving that year, the plates still get some use if you make a chili.

[A]

That's true. I could get, like. Like, plaid. Maybe like. Like a green plaid. Like, very Shannon.

[B]

Okay. Trey McDougal.

[A]

So Trey McDougal. But it doesn't match my table. My table's pink. I guess I can use tablecloth.

[B]

I cannot think of plaid without thinking of the Highland flag.

[A]

That's so funny, because for me, now it's Shannon's sitting room.

[B]

Such a beautiful room.

[A]

Great. Like, such a beautiful room. Such a good reference.

[B]

Like, to reference or not reference.

[A]

And just, like, a great source of inspiration for me. And it's funny because when she buys, like, pliny stuff, like, she did all of her. She decked out her house. She was like, I feel like you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when I don't love plaid, I just want to say for your plates.

[A]

Okay, but. So you think I should get, like, seasonal plates?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know where I need to go.

[B]

Can you get them from HomeGoods or do you have to get them from Tiffany?

[A]

No, that's what I was just about to say. Like, I shouldn't get them from Williams Sonoma. I should go get them from HomeGoods. But I don't think I can go to Home Goods with spd.

[B]

No, you know what? When I fly down, I'll go to HomeGoods and just like FaceTime. You. Okay.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, that is. That sounds good. And that will be so fun. And I'll get a couple nice things from William Sonoma, but, you know, blend.

[B]

Just a couple.

[A]

Just a couple things.

[B]

Well, we are here to do the fast five. We're here to do Dancing with the Stars. So if it's all right with you, like, I'm ready.

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

Silence. We caught up so much on the Patreon yesterday.

[A]

If you guys, like, want more girly, spoiler chitchat, like, it's all there on the patreon.com/the toast.

[B]

And with that, you need to know what the last four days have looked like from Jackie. And if you're looking for, like, a really, really in depth analysis into Ina Gardens, back to basics. We literally talk about. I cannot stop talking about.

[A]

Well, it's weird that we're both watching it and I'm sorry. She just elicits a lot of strong opinions.

[B]

She's crazy.

[A]

And I didn't even say this on the Patreon, but I had said it to you. Like, I can't watch Jeffrey anymore. Like, without bowling over. Laughing like, you have brew and Jeffrey for me.

[B]

Oh, oh, that's funny.

[A]

Like, I was in bed with Zach. We were just, like, watching Aina, and I'm like, sitting there, they're having their grilled cheeses outside, and I'm laughing so hard, and he's like, what are you laughing at? I'm like, it's just funny because, like, Claudia makes fun of him and it's funny.

[B]

He is the worst.

[A]

I can't. You feel like, really ruined the show for me.

[B]

You're welcome.

[A]

And you ruined Jeffrey.

[B]

I can't wait for you to get to Sausage and Grapes.

[A]

I hope I never. It never finds me. I do jump around, though, like, when she's doing some weird, like, I'm bad Jackie.

[B]

You're. But you're gonna jump into Sausage and Grapes. Like, that's. You just. That's what happens. What season are you on? I don't know. But if anyone's looking to get in on this journey with us, it's on HBO, Max. And there's 18 seasons. Like, it's literally amazing.

[A]

And you know who I blame for this bed? Netflix. Because I got kicked out of Netflix and I couldn't get in one night. So I was like, I'll go to another app. And I started watching Aina on Max and that's how we got here. And we can't get out. Oh, but I've also been like, cooking accordingly, right? Making party meals. You saw me last night making salmon. Salmon. And so it's been good. Like, overall, like, I'm eating good.

[B]

So that's always.

[A]

I can clown all I want. Now, without further ado, to do to do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you to do need to know.

[B]

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[A]

That's why lady issue.

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Ter 30.

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You're welcome.

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Our first story, Jacob Elordi and Olivia J. Giannulli have fully split after briefly rekindling their romance. Jacob Lordy and Olivia Jade are done. Relationship is reportedly over for good. They are reportedly not getting back together after briefly rekindling their romance in September. A source said that, that it is fully over. Good.

[B]

Like she can seriously do better. I'm so over it.

[A]

Yeah. Once there was like the crack in this relationship and I saw the potential on the other side and I really like was questioning the relationship for the first time. Like, is this best for Olivia's self? No, it's not.

[B]

No. And we need to acknowledge that, like it was a really good moment for her. Right. Like when they started dating, she was just coming back from the college admission scandal and this was a huge step up. Like he, I think he really, really helped in her image rehabilitation. So much so that when we all talk about Olivia Jade, like we don't even talk about that anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think the relationship branded scores and I'm grateful to him for seeing in her. What I've seen for years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And sort of leveling her up. But I do think she's out leveled him now.

[A]

Agreed. And being like a great part of this journey for her.

[B]

A thousand.

[A]

A wonderful stepping stone.

[B]

Thousand percent.

[A]

But we are moving on to Glen Powell. Higher steps. No, we're not moving on to Glen Powell.

[B]

I just want to say I ship wholeheartedly. I don't think they are together. But they were spotted together again.

[A]

But again. And then you said that they're friends.

[B]

They are. And he's really good friends with her mom. Like I don't know if that's like not the type of guy you date. Actually that's the type of guy you marry. The one who's really good friends with your mom.

[A]

No, I don't think Glenn's self. But I do think like I. I think like a. Like a Sophia and Elliot route.

[B]

Oh, I love. Because also. And I know we say this every time, but like Olivia J. Grew up nice. You know, obviously her mom is Zori Loughlin, but they are billionaires. Her dad is like one of the biggest. Right. So I think a businessman Bo is a great route. You know, acting is a little unstable. I don't know if you have like unlimited money especially, you know, Olivia lives well. So. And she makes a nice living herself. Of course. But we don't want Olivia to work. Like we want her to just retire and just chill. So. Yeah. Businessman Bo. I love the Elliot Grange comparison. That's a good one.

[A]

Yeah. Like business and Bo in the industry. Not a stranger to this life. Mutual friend.

[B]

Mutual friend of Sophia Richie Grange and Olivia Jade. Jake, Jake, Shane Jake. Shay needs to get everyone together and get Elliot to call up one of his friends who he went to high school with, who's single and a nice boy. Maybe we get Olivia Jade to convert.

[A]

To Maybe Olivia Jade went to that high school.

[B]

She definitely did. Definitely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We actually have like a lot of recent partial converts. Obviously Aaron Foster has been talked about a lot.

[A]

Sophia.

[B]

Sophia, Richie Grange. And now Dorothy Wang.

[A]

Well, she's a story. Thanks for spoiling that. I guess I could bump it up.

[B]

Yeah. Bump. Give, give.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

Especially like just to balance the fact that a couple broke up, another couple got married. Darcy Wang marries lawyer Brandon Yankowitz in a romantic ceremony in Italy. So Dorothy Wang is best known from rich kids Beverly Hills or Bling Empire nyc if you happen to catch that like I did.

[B]

Or her iconic episode on the Toast where she predicted that Kylie Jenner was pregnant with her first baby, we were like, dorothy, you're crazy. She was right.

[A]

She was right. She got married this weekend to lawyer Brandon Yankowitz. They did a story with Elle of their wedding. They got married in Florence, Italy. Their wedding. We kicked off with a rehearsal dinner at the Collegio a Lady course.

[B]

She got married at one of the newest, like, it just opened resorts. Where was it? Tuscany or Florence?

[A]

Florence. And then they also had a traditional Chinese tea ceremony to welcome their guests. And then a wedding. Like, it was an all weekend affair.

[B]

Now if you've been. I follow Dorothy on Instagram and if you've been following, like, her insane beauty, wellness, health journey, like, to get ready for the wedding, oh, my God, it paid off in spades. She looked insane. The rehearsal dinner dress was insane. The actual wedding dress was insane. Every outfit was. The thing about Dorothy is like, you know, and she'll say this herself, like, she's like a super judgmental. Like, she, like, makes fun of everything. And so, you know, she had to step her pussy all the way up for this wedding because, like, those who dish it have to be able to take it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And literally not one note. She looked insane.

[A]

Yeah, she did look insane. If she has no fans, like, I'm dead. I have been following her since rich kids and I watch Bling Empire and I'm just like, obsessed with her. And she's just such great TV and we need more of her on our TVs. Agreed. And then most recently, she started dating this guy and she converted to Judaism and now they are married. And it's just a beautiful.

[B]

By the way, I spoke to her about it. Like, she did a hardcore real conversion. She has a Hebrew name. It's Dahlia.

[A]

She didn't do a temple ahava conversion.

[B]

No, no. She went to the mikvah. Like, she went legit.

[A]

She did. Did you get to that part yet?

[B]

Of course I did, Seth Rogen.

[A]

Oh, yeah. But, like, do you get to the mom.

[B]

Whose mom?

[A]

Joanne's mom.

[B]

What she did? No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No. Well, yeah, she had a spiritual awakening.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I didn't get further than that.

[A]

No, no, that's really it.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, something of note. Morgan Stewart didn't appear to be in attendance. Now, it's no secret these two aren't best friends. And I also think for the show rich kids, they played up their friendship a little bit more than it was. And everybody just ended up, like, loving them. Like best friends, iconic duo. But it is kind of crazy that she wasn't there.

[A]

Yes. But it's Like. Like she has two kids. Like, it's a lot to, like, go overseas for someone's wedding. That's not like. Doesn't mean she wasn't invited, you know.

[B]

And so I actually disagree.

[A]

Oh, you think?

[B]

Because, yes, she has two kids, yada, yada. But, like, she's Morgan. She goes everywhere. She takes a private chat wherever she wants. She's literally in New York right now. I saw she, like, took a private chat and she brings her kids. Like, she. It's not like for you and I have a regular person to like, yeah, bring your kids. It's like a whole thing. But, like, for. It's not the same for Morgan. It's giving. Not invited. Not rsvp. No, that's just my take.

[A]

Interesting. For me, it feels like rsvp. No, because I feel like they're. We've seen them over the years. Like, be fine. Yeah, be fine. And I think it was, like, a big wedding. I'm assuming were any other rich kids there?

[B]

I didn't see, but, like, who are the other rich kids? Oh, oh, Ezra was there, but of course they're best friends. We knew that. Was EJ there?

[A]

I. I don't know. Was Johnny there? Was Roxy there?

[B]

No, I. I think I know for sure that, like, her and Roxy don't with each other anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Roxanna falling out. If you watch Rich Kids, literally the best show ever made. Roxy had a falling out with a lot of the girls. Like, she was on the outs most.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But they all did quite well for themselves, those rich kids.

[A]

And then maybe some of the Bling Empire cast was there.

[B]

Maybe. I saw Psy from Roni was there.

[A]

Bring back.

[B]

It was gorgeous. Nyc between, like, Dorothy's level of taste and style and elegance matched with her, you know, billionaire status. And then, like, the cultural elements of bringing together, like, the Chinese tea and then it was a Jewish wedding. I would have expected a Vogue feature here. I just want to say, like, Ella's great, of course, but, like, Vogue is Vogue. Where was her Vogue?

[A]

For me, like, that's on Vogue.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

You know, for missing. Yeah, for missing that.

[B]

Big mistake. Huge.

[A]

Yeah. But no, the pictures are really beautiful and really stunning. Really stunning. Yeah. Is it like a viral wedding? Because I see it, because I follow her. But, like, is it going viral on Tick Tock and stuff?

[B]

They actually got married, like, two, three weeks ago, and it was all under wraps. Like, these photos aren't recent.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so it's like a slow rollout.

[A]

Maybe waiting for L. Maybe waiting for Vogue. And then.

[B]

And then. L. Right.

[A]

Big mistake. Huge.

[B]

Anyways, I know.

[A]

H H. Mazel tov to the couple. To the Yankowitzes.

[B]

Dorothy Yankowitz.

[A]

It's beautiful.

[B]

It works.

[A]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? A little sports celeb news. Because Megan and Harry enjoyed a date night at the Dodgers World Series game. I didn't know the World Series was happening between the Dodgers and the Blue Jays.

[B]

Yeah, it's like, so low key. I feel like the World Series never really penetrates pop culture. Except for that one time when Justin Verlander was doing it and then he got married to Kate Upton, like, the next day. But it always does feel like it has this sort of a relevant vibe to it. And this is just proof of that because. Yeah, I only knew about it because Megan and Harry went.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like it's because it's always the Dodgers. And so, like, it's always the same people talking about and excited about it. And like, if it was like, two teams that, like, never make it to the World Series, then, like, it would. Just more people would talk about it.

[B]

It's actually such a good point not to make everything about me, but do you know I've been to the World Series?

[A]

No.

[B]

In LA for the Dodgers. Like, when I was in la, like a couple of years ago, somebody was like, do you want to go? I have a ticket. I was like, oh, okay.

[A]

At this point, it's just another Dodgers game.

[B]

Right. And Todger Stadium is so far.

[A]

In hindsight, I did see, like, stuff about Shohei and I think Justin and Haley were there.

[B]

Sydney Sweeney was there. What happened with Shohei?

[A]

No, like, he's just doing press because I guess he's in the World Series.

[B]

I love him.

[A]

So. Yeah, now that I think back on, like, what I've seen in the last few days, like, it's. Everything's coming up Dodgers, I guess, because they've been in the World Series. But thanks to Megan and Harry for really letting me know that for sure. And the Blue Jays, which now makes sense because I did see that Kristen news check. Well, wait.

[B]

Also Toronto, Justin and Haley, Kristen use check.

[A]

Made a custom outfit for Bebe Rexha to sing the national anthem at the Dodgers. At the Dodgers. Blue Jay. So it's a Dodgers shirt with a Blue Jays jacket. Everything Dodgers, everything I'm seeing makes sense now.

[B]

Yeah. Like I said, it shouldn't be this hard for us, like, piece things together. Baseball is just like, not especially having a moment right now.

[A]

Casting.

[B]

Right, Right. Go team, go. I'm obviously rooting for the Dodgers because, like, not to be xenophobic, but every time, like, a Canadian team plays in our league, like, seriously, scram, Toronto Raptors.

[A]

She doesn't like you.

[B]

Yeah. With the exception of hockey, because hockey is, like, indigenous to Canada. With, like, baseball, basketball. Like, get out of here. It's so weird. Like, this is American. You're not.

[A]

Oh, mind you want to join in the.

[B]

I do. No. Get out of here.

[A]

That doesn't bother me. I'm very.

[B]

Actually bothers me a lot.

[A]

I'm just, like, a woman of the world, and I will accept Canadians in.

[B]

Our sports as they are. Wait, can I get your take to see the pictures of Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau in the red dress celebrating.

[A]

Her birthday in Paris, like, leaving a restaurant. Mm.

[B]

What did you think? Because to me, like, it was really impactful. Like, it totally changed what I think about them. I ship so hard.

[A]

You ship?

[B]

Yeah. I thought she looked amazing. I kind of love this for her. Like, she's so at rock bottom. So it's like, where does she go next, Justin? Like, there's only one place to go. North. Yeah, I kind of like it.

[A]

The thing is, to me, like, I don't ship, but they make so much sense.

[B]

Like, yeah, they both have, like, the worst personalities.

[A]

I think they'll be together forever.

[B]

Yeah. No, I'm telling you, it's. It's, like. It's good. And she looked great.

[A]

And, like, I'm sure he's obsessed with her, you know, like, for. Because she's, like, so fabulous.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And she's obsessed with him because, like.

[B]

Because he's, like, smart and.

[A]

Yeah, he's just like. And it. They see each other, I think they'll be together forever.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm. I'm here for it.

[A]

I'm not, like, here for it, but I won't stand in their way.

[B]

No, I really like it.

[A]

And it's just, like. It's just funny to me. They just make me chuckle.

[B]

And then was Satchi on the podcast when we talked about that?

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

Just, like, about how skinny she is. Oh, so jealous.

[A]

Yeah, she is really slender.

[B]

I'm literally getting bigger by the second. Like, I'm bigger than what I was when we started this podcast episode.

[A]

Yeah, she's quite slender.

[B]

No. Claudia, you're not getting bigger. Are you looking?

[A]

Me? I was gonna say it's because you're drinking a lot of water.

[B]

Like, for sure it's the water.

[A]

You're retaining water.

[B]

I'm carrying a lot of water weight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Speaking of, gotta stop drinking water.

[A]

No, that's so good for you.

[B]

What was the story? Oh, yeah, they were at the baseball game. So regular. Not Harry being an American. Like, this is. They don't even have baseball abroad. So he was probably so confused. Be like, when I play cricket, like, okay, yeah.

[A]

But no, that's like, this is what they should do.

[B]

Yeah, they had great suits.

[A]

Yeah, they match and it's all good. Cute. Cute. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more sports news. Sports celeb relationship swirly news. The real reason Taylor Swift is going under the radar at Travis's games has.

[B]

Emerged because she was just at the most recent one. I saw like, a picture of the back of her. She looked so cute.

[A]

Yeah, she was like in the box. You could see her on tv, like, in her box. But we didn't get the walk. We didn't get nothing. Muffin. So Taylor Swift is reportedly keeping a low profile at her fiance's games because of security concerns. According to the Daily Mail, she, quote, has wanted to feel much more protected this year with her security, especially with her current stalker issues. A source told the outlet on Tuesday that she doesn't want her whereabouts to be known every minute of the day because she wants to be safe and she wants her family and friends to be safe. Additionally, he was not having the best season the first few weeks. With all this in mind, she reportedly made a little more natural progression toward being less out there and attracting attention.

[B]

Okay, so I think it's more so the second than the first because obviously security is eternally a concern for Taylor Swift. And yes, like, it has escalated a little bit with that freaky guy that going missing, but I don't think it would make her change, like that much. They're always like, have their head on a swivel for this guy and all, guys. And she has her armored vehicles and she only goes to games at the Chief stadium because they can, you know, accommodate her security needs. So I think, like, more so in the. It's not like, good to like, make a big, like, spectacle of yourself and then like, your husband's sticking it up big time. It's just like, it's like awkward when you get home. So I think it more so is like, let's just like, be low key. Like, you crush it. I'll just be there. Like, it's good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It draws more attention to his flop when she's there, like, you know, in her big paparazzi moment.

[A]

Yeah, no, it starts to give Jessica Simpson.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, right. And then, of course, everybody blames her.

[A]

But no one is blaming her.

[B]

They're not.

[A]

Especially because, like, they were together last season. He didn't play well, but the team played well. Like, he made it to the Super Bowl.

[B]

Like, so when they, like, first started dating and it was like, a bigger. Now we're all just, like, used to it. But, like, when they would step out and it would be insane, and, like, literally, Travis was overnight, like, the biggest, most famous person in the world. It did not affect how he played. He played better than ever. So I think, like, it called off people to, like, be like, she's cursing him, and now it's, like, two years in. So, like, if he's playing bad, that's really him. Right. It has nothing to do with her. So she did escape that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I feel like also, you can't, like, be at that level for of, like, you know, every game, all the time. It's, like, exhausting. So I feel like they're just, like, settling into what regular life looks like for them.

[B]

Yeah. And you don't. I mean, she does, like, get dressed up anyways, but, like, sometimes you just want to, like, wear leggings.

[A]

Yeah, well, she could wear leggings. That's like, football fodder.

[B]

Yeah, but, you know, she still wear.

[A]

Her big boots, her high heels.

[B]

Right. Like, I would have thought, like, maybe she just wants to go, like, to her boyfriend's game and, like, wear leggings, but she's still getting dressed up even when she's not doing the whole kitten caboodle media thing.

[A]

Or she's still hiding to make it seem like she wasn't hiding because of plastic surgery.

[B]

Oh, maybe she's committing to the bit. Yeah, I like that. That's the best theory you've thrown out thus far.

[A]

Yeah, we'll see. Like, if she continues this forever, I'll take it back.

[B]

Yeah, but if it's, like, a couple more games, just till the end. Filler settles.

[A]

No, but it's like, the filler has settled, but now she can't look.

[B]

Like, if she came back, it would be so obvious.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Well, like, your stalker's still at large, so why are you back?

[A]

Right, so she's gotta, like, see this thing through.

[B]

Yeah. And I just know, like, obviously, like, it's so. Must be so terrifying, like, the stalker. Like, the multiple stalkers that she has and, like, the level of freaky that they are. But I just know she sleeps better at night. Like, ever since she's been with Travis, like, Maddie Healey was not, like, helping you in the middle of the night at all. Oh, my God. I was just watching this show where, like, somebody gets broken in in the middle of the night, and so, like, they, like, shake the wife. And they were like, someone's here. And they, like, grabbed his gun and went downstairs. And it got me thinking, like, let's say there was a coffee break off a million times. Like, a break in. In my house. Like, I feel like I would go.

[A]

Yeah, except you actually wouldn't.

[B]

So afraid you actually wouldn't.

[A]

But, like, I understand.

[B]

Like, yeah, I just, like, don't trust that, like, Ben would handle it in the right way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he would also, like, be afraid. He'd be like, no, I'm not going. I'll ask him that. He's coming on the toast on Friday for toast to weed Friday. You aren't ready for toaster.

[A]

I'm really excited.

[B]

I sent Jackie a video of Ben's go. Of course he's playing a woman. And that's all the clues I'm gonna give you. I'm so excited.

[A]

Yeah, that's gonna be really fantastic.

[B]

It might be, like, one of our best yet. Which makes you upset because you're not gonna be here.

[A]

Well, it makes me excited to just enjoy it, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And Halloween and the theatrics that entails, like, takes really a lot out of me. And I don't know. I don't know if I have, like, what it takes you don't to put on the performance that would be needed right now.

[B]

But I do have an idea for, like, who you could be in our role play. And, like, maybe you could just record a video.

[A]

Okay, cool.

[B]

Yeah, cool.

[A]

Keep let me know.

[B]

Do you know. Do you know who you are?

[A]

I think I know. Yeah. Yeah, that's.

[B]

Yeah, that's so you.

[A]

So not me.

[B]

It's so you.

[A]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[B]

Oh, my God. No. Are you sure it's fifth? You didn't count, right?

[A]

I'm sure. Sure I'm sure.

[B]

Oh, my God. Is it our fifth and final story? That's brought to you by ebay?

[A]

Yeah.

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Thank you, turd time.

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[A]

Our fifth and final story. Dancing with the Stars. Halloween night. Last night, I should. Shocking elimination. An injury a contestant carried out went to the hospital. Two contestants went to the hospital this week. Let's.

[B]

Who else? Oh, Dylan.

[A]

Dylan. Dylan and Elaine.

[B]

So we'll go. Let's just in order. Halloween theme. So cute, so fun. I. I saw a lot of hate for Cheryl Burke. I thought she was an excellent judge.

[A]

I thought so too.

[B]

Maybe she. Everyone was like, she's so harsh. She's so harsh. Well, first of all, if anyone's allowed to be harsh, it's her. She has walked the walk and talks the talk. She's been on that stage many times. She has won many times. But I also found sometimes when the judges give critiques, I'm not doubting that they're right. I have no idea what they're talking about. And I felt like Cheryl actually, like, I knew what she was talking about. Like she was speaking English to me.

[A]

Yeah, I thought she was a good judge. I would say to Dancing with the Stars, turn the lights on, please. I can't see anything. And yeah, like, of course it was Halloween night, so they wanted things to be Moody. But, like, I say this all the time. Like, certain people, when they have like a. A moody dance, you know, they turn the lights. Turn the lights on. Okay. I'm here to watch the technique. It's hard enough, like, with the skirts and the angles. Turn the garch darn lights on. And there were some people where I was like, what a shame. This looks like a beautiful dance, but I can't see.

[B]

Right, right. No, I. That's a valid criticism.

[A]

So, like, especially to the pros, like, they should make sure that the lights are being kept on.

[B]

And then that monster dance a thon at the end was so stupid.

[A]

That was a real low point.

[B]

It was a low point.

[A]

It was getting grease, right?

[B]

Yes. So that's like a thing, you know, it's like a. People do it for charity. It's like a dance a thon. I thought Alex should have won, but other than that, like, everyone else looked really, like, genuinely stupid.

[A]

Yeah, no, it was really stupid until the end when it was like, just the two couples dancing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I could really focus on, like, what they were trying to do here and I enjoyed that. But, like, like, that was very odd. So let's go in order of dances. Halloween night, Dancing with the Stars. First, Whitney Levitt and Mark Ballas. They did a Beetlejuice thing. They got 37 out of 40.

[B]

She was out of sync again.

[A]

She goes fast. She has, like, a fast going problem.

[B]

And she's gets so much hate online. And I don't agree with any of it. Like, sorry. She's doing the hardest dances and is the best dancer. Like, that's just unfortunate that you don't like her, but that's a truth you can't hide from. I did feel like in her packages, she's like, now we're getting to the point in the show where people are just, like, saying stuff. Do you know what I mean, in there? Like, to make, like, some sort of connection to the dance. And I feel like she's just, like, not being herself. And that's what Carrie and actually gave her good feedback, which is like, just like, chill. Like, she's taking it so seriously. And that's great, but I feel like she's not having fun. She's so hard on herself. Like, just chill. You're going to win. Like, just chill.

[A]

I don't think she's gonna win, actually. And I feel like the. The hate is, like, getting to her. And even when I, like, look on Twitter at the end of the night, like, there's so much hate for her. They wanted her to go home last night. Like, this girl is the best dancer and if she doesn't have a lot of fans on her side, she's not gonna win. So she has to dance even harder. And she is like a perfectionist, like a, A crazy person. That's who she is. That is her being herself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I actually appreciate that. She just, like, owns it and it's like, yeah, I'm crazy. I'm crazy. And we're gonna dance hard.

[B]

Yeah. But then I think it makes her, like, mess up a little bit. Like the, the. The tempo.

[A]

Yeah. But it's also like, when you get nervous, you go fast. Like, you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Talk fast, you sing fast. Like, it's just. That's her thing. That's her, like, you know, she's not.

[B]

Perfect and Achilles heel.

[A]

Yeah. So I, I feel for her because she is getting a lot of hate. It's so unwarranted. It's. Why. Because she is a good dancer. Because she has experience. And also, they just don't like Kirk. Like, like, we watch a show. I feel like a lot of the people who, like, don't like her on Dancing with the Stars don't watch Secret Lives. Right.

[B]

Yeah. Right.

[A]

And it's like, yeah, she's the villain on her show, but, like, it's a show. Calm down.

[B]

She's also not the villain anymore, but.

[A]

Like, it's a show. Like, grow up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is a different show.

[B]

Yeah, Right.

[A]

It's called compartmentalization.

[B]

All the swirlies were in attendance. I saw Jesse, Layla, Macy. They were in the ballroom, which is fun.

[A]

I feel like they were filming their show in LA this week and everyone came out to.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I feel like it was dramatic and both girls, like, had a bad week.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not because they were filming, but, like, whatever transpires on slammu this week, we'll see. Like, they were not okay. This. Mormon Wives were not okay last night.

[B]

I think also up until this point, they've both been filming Dancing with the Stars while being full time moms and content creators. And then I think this week the show came to LA and they had to also film the Hulu Show. And I think with that added responsibility on top of what our full plate, I think it kind of broke them both.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

In terms of, like, responsibilities and time management.

[A]

Yeah. Because Whitney, like, you could see, had broken down a little bit. She, like, tried to explain that she's, like, not doing her best, but then of course she gets hate. Like, oh, you can't do two reality shows and Right.

[B]

She doesn't want to say, like, I'm struggling, because then it's like, well, you're not grateful.

[A]

No. And it's like, oh, you have to make content and film two shows. Like, what about the coal miners? And it's like, well, both can be hard. Things can be true. And they're both like moms. If they're itch, it is a lot.

[B]

Like, it's insane.

[A]

So I think it was a hard week for her, but she danced great, and she's a good dancer. She'll be okay. Jordan Childs and Ezra Sosa, they got 34 out of 40. They danced to Elastic Heart.

[B]

I thought.

[A]

I thought it was a good dance.

[B]

Oh, I didn't. I thought that harness thing was really stupid. And Jordan is the type of dancer who doesn't need, like, silly props like that. And Carrie Ann was right like that. Unless the prop is executed perfectly, it just becomes a distraction. And up until the point where they, like, ripped the rope off and she was no longer harnessed, like, it was bad and stupid.

[A]

I. I didn't realize it was bad and stupid until they said that, you.

[B]

Know, it was bad and stupid.

[A]

Like, I thought, like, if they had given her all tens, I'd have been like, yeah, that was really something.

[B]

Yeah, Right? I just do, like, whatever the judge is tell me to do next.

[A]

Andy and Emma, 28 out of 40. They dance to. What was it, Beethoven?

[B]

It was funny. Once again, every week I'm like, okay, this is the week again. He's going home. But you know what? And I was actually. Me and Ben were like, he was doing a good job. Like, I feel like his dance was technically a little bit harder, and he aced the footwork. And obviously, he's not the hardest or best dance as anybody else, but once again, like, he continues to improve. He continued to make me chuckle. I was sufficiently entertained, and I'm sorry. Like, I voted for him 10 times.

[A]

Yeah. Who'd you vote for last night?

[B]

Just Andy.

[A]

I voted for Andy.

[B]

Oh, and Alex.

[A]

And I think Elaine, I voted for. I wasn't going to because I was like, this isn't fair. But then I actually liked her dance.

[B]

I didn't vote for Elaine because I'm sorry. I think you should go home if you don't perform at the show. Called me crazy.

[A]

I was ready to be like, no. But I don't know, like, something in her dance, like, she just won me over. And I'm like, wait.

[B]

And she has to be clear. I love Elaine, and I want her to Go far. But I think just for me, the baseline is, like, you have to be at the show to get to the next round.

[A]

Or they should have just, like, pushed her through, not shown any of her dance, and just been like, she'll go on to the next week.

[B]

Like, yes, but her technically competing against Jen and then Jen going home. Like, that's.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, but. But it's not. Because we'll get to Jen, you know, Indian Emma. Like, I don't want them to go home ever. Like, I know any week, like, he could go home, but, like, that's just not interesting to me, him going home.

[B]

No. And then there's, like, a fan theory that, like, Andy's being held there against his will. And I am actually glad he addressed that head on.

[A]

Yeah. No, I feel like a lot of them, it's like they're having fun, you know, no one wants to go home, but it's like, when this ends, I. I'll be happy.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And he's saying he doesn't feel that way, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna trust him.

[B]

He's. I can't wait to see him on the COVID of People magazine because he's definitely lost weight. He was looking trim last night. It is a black priest. Get up.

[A]

Yeah, he was. Then Elaine and Alan, they got 2 out of 30, 2 out of 40. Using a rehearsal footage. It would have been good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Next, Danielle Fischl and Pasha. 33 out of 40.

[B]

What does she do again? I'm sorry. This is gonna be really mean, but, like, I feel like recently, like, she's just extremely forgettable.

[A]

Yeah, she's very.

[B]

Not bad or good. Like.

[A]

Like, in any given episode, like, it's between her going home at this point. Andy, Elaine, and Jen. And now, like, we'll get through these next four eliminations. Those are the next couples to go home. And it's just like, we have the top tier and then the bottom tier. And, like, she has. She is now in the. In the bottom tier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's all it is. But she's having fun.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But it doesn't, like, get the crowd going, maybe.

[B]

No. Also, Carrie Ann and Derek fighting. The girls were fighting last night. I feel like, actually Derek was frustrated. I didn't even notice. I guess, like, every time it was time for him to talk, like, Carrie Anne had went on a little long, and that cuts into his time. So he was like, I'm getting no time to speak tonight, like, and, like, that's just not Carrie Ann's problem. Sorry. I, like, didn't care.

[A]

Like, show us, like, one less gimmicky package. Everyone can talk a little longer. Right next, Robert Irwin and Whitney Carson.

[B]

Oh, his was good with the blood on his face. Yeah, he's. It's kind of a winner.

[A]

Yeah, she's a winner. Yeah, she's a winner.

[B]

I like how you refuse to let me give him a compliment ever. You're always like, well, it's her.

[A]

Well, because she's just so good. Like, so it's sad for him that I don't even see him because I'm just like, she could live. Like, she's just like, like, holding the whole thing together.

[B]

But you know what? I actually feel like his strength is that, like, you don't look at him because he's in ballroom dance. It's very traditional. Like, you're not supposed to see the guy.

[A]

Like, strength is that you don't look at him. I agree. And her strength is that, like, she's drawing all the star to her. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's kind of perfect. He's definitely top four.

[A]

Oh, for sure. And the show loves him. I've been learning more about, like, the show dynamics, you know, because now my algorithm knows that I'm watching Dancing with the star. So I get.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I saw a recap that was like, the dating history of the entire crew.

[A]

I get served, like. Yeah, stuff from, like, the history. I get served a lot of old dancing with, like, best moments, which I love to see. And it goes to show you, like, how good it could be. So, like, everyone step it up. But apparently, like, Robert and Whitney are like, that's who ABC would want to win this season. They are, like, favored. The Irwin family just, like, has a very close relationship with Dancing with the Stars. Like, that. That's if they rigged it.

[B]

A global audience.

[A]

They rigged it. Like, that's who they would want to win. So just keeping that in mind, you.

[B]

Know, that is important.

[A]

They get good song. Like, they just get the goods.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Next. Oh, Jen and yon. They got 32 out of 40. They danced to look what you made me do.

[B]

Okay, now I say this. I don't know much about ballroom dance, but, like. Like, I know what I saw was, like, so fine. I. I didn't understand, like, the immediate critiques bar. You know, let's not even acknowledge the fact that she's postpartum and nobody gives her any grace. Just face value. Like, it was so fine. I don't even know what the critiques were. Like, they couldn't even just say it was good. Now let's give, you know, a little bit of context. You know, Carrie Ann's always talking about how Elaine's age is so inspiring and it's all great for her age. Well, it's like, okay, that's like a. A caveat. Where's Jen's?

[A]

Yeah. And she got the same score as Elaine.

[B]

It's absurd.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I could tell, like, she. I know she thought she did. She did a good job. I also think the judges don't, like, yawn, so she thought she did a good job. And the second they started critiquing her, like, she just. She was done. And I'm glad she went home. I could actually see a world in which she had asked to be sent home because obviously she's not, like, a winner. And like you said, there's like, three or four people who are, like, gonna go home and then it's gonna be like, like, who of the top, you.

[A]

Know, five makes, right? There's five couples in contention.

[B]

Jordan, Dylan. Whitney. Alex. And Robert. Robert. So, yeah, the other three, it's like, well, who's going home first? So I actually could have seen her saying, like, this is no longer worth me spending so much time away from my family. This is not bringing me joy. Like, please let me go home. And I could see them being like, sure. You know, it's either you this week or next week.

[A]

And no, I feel like she told the audience that with her face. Face. Like, usually she's like, up in the box, like, yay, vote. Like, and she didn't smile with teeth at all after she danced. Everything was, like, a subdued smile and she was defeated. This was the first week I did not vote for her because I did not think she wanted me to vote for her.

[B]

I could tell, like, the second they started speaking, she just turned off, like, yeah. And you know what? I'm glad she's going home. Like, this is not a, a, a good use of her time anymore, especially if it's time away from her family.

[A]

Did you see her post show interview with Jan where she said she's, like, moving to la?

[B]

Moving to la.

[A]

No, don't do it.

[B]

Well, I'm glad that her and Jan have a good relationship because there's been, like, a lot of criticism about him being paired up with her.

[A]

And did you talk about Max?

[B]

I think I did, but let's talk about it now. Val's brother went on a podcast. Yeah. He has, like, an OG retired pro.

[A]

Yeah, he. He has a podcast with his wife who's Also a retired pro. And he said that Jan has no business being a pro and that he's not defensive. He's not. Like, he went really hard. He went really hard. And like, I would just say, like, it's just not fair when anyone's a first season pro. Like, to make up these days.

[B]

So how do we ever expect?

[A]

Right. But it's not like there's something wrong with yawn in particular, but it's like, no, they should get sort of like some sort of training, better training so that they can. Could operate and like, give to their star what pros like Val and Whitney are able to give.

[B]

And I think in your first one or two seasons, you should be paired with somebody who needs a little less coaching. Like, Whitney and Jen should have had swapped partners. A woman like Jen, who is so freshly postpartum and is doing this, like, on such a whim, should be with a mark ballas. Like someone who's just. Just experienced and crushes it.

[A]

Yeah. Or even like Pasha, literally.

[B]

Anyone else?

[A]

Pasha.

[B]

Pasha.

[A]

What about Pasha?

[B]

So I thought her dance was good. I didn't know what the hubbub was about. But you know what? I'm glad that she's waking up and not going to rehearse today.

[A]

Yeah. And I am worried about her and I've been worried about her and I think I was on to something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I know people thought I was projecting, but no, no. I was just putting myself in her shoes. No, it is that projecting. I don't think so.

[B]

And then the last dance was Alex.

[A]

Well, no. Two more. Alex and Val. They got the best score of the night, 39 out of 40. It was a good night for Alex.

[B]

We've been saying that she needs a breakthrough moment and she finally had it. I thought her dance was amazing. She took it so seriously. I, like, respect how much she is dedicated to doing this and doing it well. I think now she's like, a real contender for Whitney. Like, I do think Alex really could win because she does have the fans and she's improving. Like, Whitney's just been good the whole time. If anything, she's, like, slipping a little bit now. Like, Alex has gotten better and better and better and better. And I think this week was really important for her. I do have one criticism, and I know that she didn't get great scores for her wicked dance because they said it wasn't, like, technically difficult, but I just loved Alex. Is this, like, young, hot thing. All her dances are so dark and moody, like, physically dark, but also visually dark and I liked popular because it was fun and bright and tick tocky and, like, that's Alex. I need Val to, like, do a little bit more of that for her.

[A]

But I think also when she does things that are obvious, like, even when they did Disney Night, like, you would expect her to be Cinderella.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's maleficent because she doesn't want to just do, like, what's so obvious and, like, corny.

[B]

But I like it.

[A]

Sometimes things are cliche for a reason.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, give us the goods. Give us just, like, one full, like, Barbie moment, please.

[B]

Yes, exactly. She crushed it. I love her. I voted for her and Andy.

[A]

I don't know why I didn't vote for it.

[B]

I decided, and I think she should have won that stupid monster mash thing. I think she was still at the top of the leaderboard, so it didn't matter, but she should have won that hers was better.

[A]

Yeah. I. I. Who could know? Who's this better?

[B]

I didn't know where to look at this exact moment. She is my prediction for the winner. Wow.

[A]

Our last dance was Dylan and Daniella. They got 35 out of 40. Dylan broke his nose. She danced blindfolded. I thought it was a really good dance. But you said it wasn't.

[B]

I did not like it at all.

[A]

I thought it was, like, really compelling. She's such a good dancer. She's so intense.

[B]

Yeah. And she's really good with her partners. Like, she brings out the best in her partners.

[A]

I've been seeing a lot of her in Iman Shumpert.

[B]

Me too. Well, they won, which was, like, a huge upset.

[A]

Yeah. And that's, like. Because she's an amazing pro and, like, choreographs amazing dances.

[B]

Now. People are not gonna like what I have to say, and I'm gonna say it anyway. I have a really hard time believing that these two are not, like, falling in love. I don't know if they've, you know, stepped out and taken that next leap yet, but, you know, it's always weird how much the pros, like, hug and kiss one another when they're getting their scores or whatever. And these two have stopped, like, touching each other, almost, like, in an effect, in an attempt to, like, throw us off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's making me more suspicious how not touchy they are. It's like, well, everybody else is touching because nobody else has anything to touch. Yeah, right, Right. I thought his dance was bad.

[A]

I don't like him.

[B]

I don't. I do not like him. And that picture they Put up of him in the ocean did not help. Help.

[A]

That was weird. Derek Hough almost shaving his head on live television was weird.

[B]

Yeah. So they used it as an opportunity. There must be some sort of synergy with People magazine. But both Dylan Efron and Derek Hough won their categories for People's sexiest tattoo person Tattooist. And Derek was over 40 or the.

[A]

40, 40 year old Sexy Dylan was tattoos.

[B]

Yeah. And that's why everybody's saying, like, why'd they show that picture of him with his ass up in the ocean? You couldn't even see his tattoos. His arms were underwater.

[A]

Oh, I'm. I'm cracking up. People magazine is so funny. Sma like, always be the best thing ever.

[B]

SM A.

[A]

That was. That was weird. There was a lot going on in last night's episode. But you know what I think is there are less contestants. They, like, fill the two hours more. That's like, what, eight minutes that we lose of a package.

[B]

Right. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think. I think we get to a point where everybody dances twice. Cool. And that's really hard on the dancer. So I'm actually glad Jen left.

[A]

Like, what about longer dances?

[B]

No, they do too.

[A]

I'm interested to see that.

[B]

I don't know if they do this concept for a week, but you know what they should do? Partner swap. That would be interesting.

[A]

It would be, but I think that's like, goes against like your team just.

[B]

Just giving them ideas.

[A]

That would be like Travis playing for the Bills.

[B]

Like, did they say what next week is? Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[A]

Is that what they said?

[B]

Yeah. And then they said Rock and Roll hall of Famer Flavor Flav is the guest judge. When she said Rock and Roll hall of Famer, I was like, is it going to be Brett Michaels? Is it going to be Steven Tyler? Flavor Flav?

[A]

What I also liked about this episode, it felt like most of the contestants were doing the same style of dance. And I felt like I was really able to judge. It's fair, like fairly of contemporary, spooky dances.

[B]

Yeah, contemporary and spooky. I think rock and roll is going to be like, also like more like darkness and horror. Where's the Barbie theme?

[A]

Give Alex the Barbie theme.

[B]

Yeah. So right now she's my prediction for winner.

[A]

Who do you think will be top four? I feel like the fourth spot is to, like, it's going to be Whitney, Alex and Steve, Robert. And then the fourth spot is between Jordan and Dylan.

[B]

I think Jordan gets it, but that's Just because I'm blinded by my dislike.

[A]

I just feel like he has a lot of, like. I feel like there's a lot of, like, fanfare for him. But there, you know, there is.

[B]

People are obsessed with him. So, like, I get hate for my takes, but. Sorry, my takes are my takes. But she is a better dancer than who?

[A]

Him?

[B]

Well, yes, she's the pro. Oh, if they meant Daniela, I'm like. It's kind of like the point of the show.

[A]

Are you new here?

[B]

I am, actually.

[A]

Jordan. Like, Jordan. He's not.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, no, it's. Sorry. He's. He's fifth.

[A]

I do feel like he's sort of, like, maxed out on his, like, growth Internet, like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thanks for being here. It's been an absolute pleasure being by your side again. And you're always welcome if you're not in labor next week, like, you're always welcome back. I'll give someone the boot. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Dose of Millennium morning show where we deliver the Fast Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube? Please subscribe. Give us a video. Thumbs up bell podcast Public places podcast review about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented. We are.

[A]

Love you. Bye.