Bloodlines: Wednesday, June 24th, 2026

Summary

The Toast Podcast Summary

Episode: Bloodlines: Wednesday, June 24th, 2026
Hosts: Jackie (Jacqueline Foley) & Claudia (Jackson Claude) Oshry
Date: June 24, 2026
Theme: A lively, witty dive into pop culture, TV recaps (with a focus on Love Island USA Casa Amor week), current celeb stories, and the realities and ailments of “womanhood at a certain age”—classic swirly Toast banter.

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Episode Overview

This episode brings Jackie and Claudia back to their “dreamlike” comfort zone, tackling a mix of personal health misadventures, Love Island drama, the latest celeb news (Taylor Swift, Kylie Jenner, Lizzo, and more), and reflections on the shifting tides of pop culture. The dynamic duo’s signature swirlitude—mixing humor, wisecracks, and grounded perspective—sets the tone throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Living with Midlife “Ailments” (00:30 – 05:00)

• Personal Health Woes: Both hosts commiserate over bizarre, chronic physical issues—Claudia’s long-ailing thumb (finally getting an EMG after three years), and Jackie’s coccydynia and foot problems—as metaphors for adapting to new normals in adulthood.
• Quote:
  • “There are definitely ailments as women of a certain age, like we just live with. But I think if I have the opportunity to fix my thumb, that’s something later me will say ‘thanks for doing’.” – Claudia (03:51)
• Discussion of considering “eastern medicine” and alternative treatments before resorting to surgery.

2. TV and Programming Updates (05:30 – 07:00)

• Love Island USA Casa Amor Recap Announced:
  • Dear Toasters segment will move to Thursdays (programming shift) through the Love Island season.
• Quote:
  • “We have a TV recap every single day except Thursday because there’s no episodes on Wednesdays.” – Jacqueline (05:35)

3. Patreon Love & Community Building (08:00 – 10:00)

• Patreon’s Role in The Toast’s Growth:
  • The hosts reflect on how their Patreon community was the first to let them monetize and how it’s now a “second home” for deeper content.
  • Plug for exclusive content including bonus episodes, Q&As, vlogs, and tutorials.
  • “Patreon was there for us when no one else was.” – Jacqueline (09:20)
• Quote:
  • “It was the first time we ever were able to monetize our show, which was very exciting…We are so loyal to Patreon. We will never leave.” – Jacqueline (09:22–09:35)

4. Math-in-Real-Life & James Taylor Dinner Banter (10:03 – 14:29)

• Light math nostalgia: Calculating episode counts, recalling ratio math from school (“blank over blank equals x over 100”), and reflecting on forgotten math skills.
• James Taylor Concert Story: Jacqueline opted out of her husband Ben’s invite to a James Taylor concert; both hosts sing snippets and riff about generational music taste and nostalgia.

5. Love Island USA: The Real TV Recap (15:33 – 21:00 & 56:10 – 68:40)

Personal TV Rituals & Parenting

• Love Island as a nightly ritual; Jackie credits it for helping establish better sleep routines for her kids (“forced us to get the kids sleeping in their beds at a reasonable hour” – 14:41–15:29).

Casa Amor: Challenge & Contestant Analysis

(Detailed Recap at end; timestamps 56:10–68:40)

• Dissected key couplings and dynamics from Night Three of Casa Amor.
• Broad consensus: heavy-handed editing by producers is obvious but keeps the show lively.
• “Disgusting that, like, free for all freestyle orgy at the very end…the challenge was disgusting…if I was wearing pearls, I would have been clutching them.” – Jacqueline (56:10 & 56:37)
• Standout critiques of contestant behavior:
  • Casey’s contradictory behavior: “He’s up there with Sincere. Like, he is bad news…why people think it’s weird that Tierra’s not exploring? Coming in saying ‘you’re my type, I like you, I’m here to see you’ is so normal.” – Jacqueline (57:37)
  • Caleb’s persistent bad luck—“He cannot get arrested. The hottest, sweetest guy on the show.”– Jacqueline (35:33)
  • Heavy use of food metaphors/analogies by contestants; “Sincere is always like, she’s chocolate chip cookie dough, and I’m chocolate chip…” (60:39)
  • Melanie’s and Anaya’s evolving Casa Amor storylines.

Meta-Show Observations

• Discussion around show editing, producing decisions, and how analogies and repetitive conversations shape drama.
• “We’re talking about the fact that we’re having a conversation. Whereas let’s just have a conversation.” – Jacqueline (67:55)

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Major Pop Culture Stories

1. Taylor Swift Performs at Tight End University (TEU) (20:13–24:39)

• Taylor closes Travis Kelce’s TEU event with a concert; performed “Love Story” with Lainey Wilson (by George Kittle’s request).
• Riff on what TEU actually is—networking camp? NFL fraternity? (“I think this is like…the YPO of tight ends.” – Claudia, 21:46)
• Observations about guest secrecy for the Travis–Taylor wedding.
• Criticism of George Kittle’s song request: “Taylor Swift has never taken requests. This is not a karaoke bar.” – Jacqueline (24:12); both imagine what they’d request if in his shoes.

2. Kylie Jenner x Meta Glasses Campaign (29:38–34:45)

• Kylie Jenner’s campaign for Meta’s new smart glasses provokes skepticism.
• “This is how you know a product is bad, because I’m, like, very influenced by Kylie, and I do not have one iota of, like, desire to purchase.” – Jacqueline (33:10)
• Debate whether tech-glasses will ever “emerge into the culture” despite massive star power.
• “They literally said who’s the coolest person on earth…her voice is in the glasses.” – Claudia (30:49)

3. Joe Manganiello’s Memoir "Bloodlines" Announcement (37:14–40:41)

• Joe to discuss years-long autoimmune health battle and unusual healing methods—including shamans and pagan rituals.
• Hosts reflect on celebrity health memoir tropes and skepticism around “autoimmune” as a celebrity-culture catch-all.
• “Once I hear ‘shaman’ personally, I just shut down because that means the person I’m talking to is like deeply not serious and pagan rituals. Yeah. Demonic.” – Jacqueline (38:42)

4. Lizzo’s Album Flop (44:49–53:05)

• Rolling Stone reports extremely low sales (2,649 copies); no Billboard 200 singles.
• Dissection of why the “cancellation” stuck:
  • “I think the music sucks. And that’s huge…when you think about it, people separate the art from the artist…if she was releasing like true bangers, people would just forget about it.” – Jacqueline (46:38)
  • Context: album purchases are generally much lower these days (50,000 = successful), so 2,600 is disastrous.
  • Reflection on the demise of “body positivity” as a mainstream movement post-Ozempic.
  • “Her messaging became a little irrelevant…I think her essence really touched on the zeitgeist of that moment. And that moment has passed.” – Claudia (50:56)
• Rolling Stone called out for potential bias against Lizzo.

5. Jordyn Woods’ “Lucky Orange Bag” at the Guggenheim (54:00–55:57)

• Jordyn Woods’ own handbag, central to the Knicks playoff win lore, gets (a possibly temporary) display at the Guggenheim.
• Applause for the branding opportunity.
• “The whole bag thing has been really fun…but, like, for a business owner, it’s a dream.” – Jacqueline (54:45)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Living with Strange Ailments:
  • “I have my own health issues. I don’t know if you guys heard the pre-Fast 5 banter.” – Jacqueline (38:46)
• On Old Math Skills:
  • “What is nine times six?…That’s the first time, like, probably since sixth grade that, like, my times tables have come in handy.” – Jacqueline (10:13)
• On Cancel Culture vs. Music Quality:
  • “Chris Brown. Well, of course. And then, I mean Michael Jackson, R. Kelly…for somebody to be taken out completely…It’s not just one thing, but I think what’s not being spoken about is the album being really bad.” – Jacqueline (47:16)
• On Influencer Burnout:
  • “Even with influencers, they go super viral…a few years later, it’s like, well, what are you doing now? That doesn’t last forever.” – Claudia (52:13)
• On Parenting and TV:
  • “Love Island…it forced us to get the kids sleeping in their own beds at a reasonable hour.” – Jackie (14:41)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment Topic | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------|--------------| | Personal health/life updates | 00:30–05:00 | | Programming update/Patreon plug | 05:30–10:00 | | Math nostalgia + James Taylor banter | 10:03–14:29 | | Love Island rituals/parenting | 14:30–15:29 | | TV & Pop Culture Fast 5 stories | 15:41–54:00 | | Taylor Swift at TEU | 20:13–24:39 | | Kylie Jenner’s Meta Glasses | 29:38–34:45 | | Joe Manganiello “Bloodlines” Memoir | 37:14–40:41 | | Lizzo’s album sales discussion | 44:49–53:05 | | Jordyn Woods’ orange bag | 54:00–55:57 | | Love Island Casa Amor Recap | 56:10–68:40 |

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Overall Tone & Vibe

The episode is classic Toast: fun, fast, irreverent, “swirly,” and very self-aware—bridging pop culture, TV trash, and real-life woes with honesty and humor. Throughout, the hosts deliver equal parts laughs, practical wisdom, hot takes, and intimate details of their day-to-day, making it as much about the Oshry sisters’ dynamic as the topics themselves.

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If you missed this episode, you’ll catch up on:

• The realities of midlife “quirks”
• Hot takes on Taylor, Kylie, Joe M., Lizzo, and the ever-changing influencer landscape
• Love Island’s Casa Amor: who’s thriving, who should go home, and the wildest challenges yet—plus all the best food metaphors reality TV has to offer!

Transcript

[Jackson Claude]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five

[Jacqueline Foley]

things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

[Jackson Claude]

They sound amazing.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. Today is the epitome of goodness, and I'm so excited to emerge myself in this experience with my sister, co host and friend whose voice seems to return. It's Jacqueline Foley.

[Jackson Claude]

Are you excited to go on a co journa Fred with me?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I mean, it's the epitome of joy, so why wouldn't I?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know why you wouldn't. My voice is much better than it was yesterday. But I do still think it's a dream day for you because I do have to keep it to a minimum. You know, I can't.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We wouldn't want you to overextend.

[Jackson Claude]

Long winded. So I am going to stories. I am going to do the stories because I know that also took away from your dream day.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Definitely like manual labor on my dream day. That's not a dream.

[Jackson Claude]

So maybe today will be more of a dream for you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I am feeling like I'm in a dreamlike state.

[Jackson Claude]

A dreamlike sequence.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes. I love the word sequence.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, we're both like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I've been using the word sequence a lot ever since, like, I started playing Maj so consistently.

[Jackson Claude]

I haven't mad in weeks. Oh, girl.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Mia and my daytime crew, we do not around actually, though, me and my daytime crew, you know, if somebody needs to bop out, like, we have a couple of alternates and my daytime.

[Jackson Claude]

How do they feel about being alternates?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, so.

[Jackson Claude]

And being called alternates on a. On a very popular podcast.

[Jacqueline Foley]

They're grateful for the experience, if I'm being honest. My daytime crew, it's kind of like a random assembling of four people who, like, you know, have flexible jobs. Some are on maternity leave. Came together against all odds. Yeah. So no one wanted to play. And then we started becoming, like, so popular. We have lunch and we, you know, everyone's kind of jealous of what goes on that, like, oh, I'll play. And it's like, well, where were you when we were putting the group together? So I think the alternates that we do have are extremely grateful to even be alternates. Like, that's how in demand that we are, if I'm being honest. But today we're actually taking Masha off. I said you could sub in one of the alternates for me. I can't manage. I have my emg, my long awaited second five years in the process. I'm finally getting my nerve test on my thumb and I'm hoping with we will finally find out why my thumb stopped working. I'm excited.

[Jackson Claude]

That's very exciting.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Exciting, exciting.

[Jackson Claude]

Information excites me.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I know. I fear that the EMG will tell me like, that I have a tendon issue and I have to get surgery. And it's like, am I really, for the first time in my whole life going to get surgery because of my, like, my thumb?

[Jackson Claude]

No.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I feel important.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like you wait for it

[Jacqueline Foley]

to get worse and oh, you think, but what if it becomes irreparable and how much longer? I've literally waited almost three years. Like, I haven't had a thumb for three years and I've been talking about it and like, nobody seems to care because they're like, you're fine. You have nine other fingers.

[Jackson Claude]

I mean, we all have our struggles. Like, my pinky toe is really going into my fourth toe. It really hurts. And like I. It used to only happen,

[Jacqueline Foley]

like when you wear shoes.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, it used to only happen if I hadn't got a pedicure in a while. My nails were too long, so I was like, up. Time to get a pedicure.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So you're saying the nail is going into the skin of your fourth toe or the whole toe now?

[Jackson Claude]

Like the. The toe and. And there's not a lot of. I keep my toenails clipped. I got a pedicure and still the next day. And then I shoes where it hurts more than others, but. But it's becoming an everyday issue in my life and I'm just gonna keep walking the path.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, that's how I feel about my coccydinia. Like, it's just something I have to live with.

[Jackson Claude]

I mean, my sciatica, you. You are. When you're with me and you see me get out of a chair and you think that something.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's a face she makes you.

[Jackson Claude]

I like, can't get up and you think like, oh my gosh, is it flaring up? Like, no, this is just my life now.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So I get that there are definitely ailments as women of a certain age, like we just live with. But I think if I have the opportunity to fix my thumb, that's something. Like later me will say, thanks for doing. I'm hoping I can find. I might get into like some eastern medicine, alternative treatments before I go for the surge.

[Jackson Claude]

I think that's good also. Talk to chat.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I was chatting hardcore with you.

[Jackson Claude]

Can't like tell chat. Chat can't tell you what to do until you have your diagnosis from.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So chat is really. Because Chad told me, like, chat again, a thousand percent. I will upload them. But then I was also talking to Chat last night because I told you that like a week and a half ago while putting on pants, I sprained my ankle. And it's like, how long does an ankle get sprained for? Like, I've got long time. Oh, my God. Every time I twist my ankle a certain way, I'm like blinded with pain. And so chat was. And then I was wondering, do you think that any of these issues are connected? Because I told you I also threw up my neck. So I have a bad neck, a bad foot and a bad thumb. And I was like, it's all in the left side of my body. So I was like, chat. Are these connected? It actually feels like my body is breaking down. And Chat was like, well, no, I don't think that any of them are connected. So that made me feel better.

[Jackson Claude]

That is better. It's not a larger issue in the Coer's Wojers left side.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I guess we'll find out after the mj.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, stay tuned. Watch this space for that. Are the results immediate or like they have to be.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I have no idea.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, studied and different appointment for them to share them with you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, like the way professionals refuse to give you your own information. They better FedEx me the results ASAP.

[Jackson Claude]

Don't get me started on the healthcare system.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I won't actually. That's so not what I want to talk about. What I do want to talk about is what's going down today.

[Jackson Claude]

It's broken.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Absolutely. What I want to talk about is what's going down today. We have Love Island CASA More Episode 3 recap. We have Taylor Swift, of course, like, showing her face. Lots to discuss there. We've got two positively swirly girls. I have decided made another sort of administrative decision. Dear Toasters will be tomorrow. And I think for until Love island is over, programming update, Dear Toasters will be moved to Thursdays because we have a TV recap every single day except Thursday because there's no episodes on Wednesdays. So we'll see you guys Thursday. Dtq. Sorry. Please, just. Please just be cool with it.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, it is what it is. Plus, without my voice, like, we have to conserve our batteries.

[Jacqueline Foley]

How can you give a stern talking to. To the dtq?

[Jackson Claude]

It's so true. It's so true. And you guys deserve my best.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Best. Absolutely.

[Jackson Claude]

So. Oh. So Dear Toasters are about to be fed on Patreon this month. I don't want to be able to.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Great episode.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't want to spoil what we're doing, but it's in the Dear Sorcerers family. It's actually.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I feel like you could spoil it. Like, it's called building hype.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. But we're recording it tomorrow, so, like, I. We are doing a Dear Toasters where we go through submissions from early days

[Jacqueline Foley]

of toast, like, 2019.

[Jackson Claude]

We give our takes now on what they would be, and then we will live listen to what we said then and see how different we are. If we agree with what we said

[Jacqueline Foley]

then it's gonna be so different. Because, like, I know back then we were toxic wives, and now we're toxic moms. Like, we are the. The mother in laws that people are writing in about.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's just like, life wises you up. Like, I'm still thinking about our Dear Toasters from last week where that girl said her husband was gay, and we were like, stay with him.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of course. That's the kind of advice you can only find here at the toes, because,

[Jackson Claude]

you know every other show, oh, he cheated on you. He's gay. Dump him.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No. And then it's like, you deserve. It's like, yeah, all those things are true, but, like, let's do a practical application of policy here. Okay? So leave him. You're also then leaving your half your custody of your kids to this guy. Like, we're very realistic. And I know some people don't like our advice, but, like, sorry, this is what your great grandmother would tell you. And I feel like we should always be listening to our elders. We are the church elders, you know?

[Jackson Claude]

And of course, like, if we got that deer toasters, like, years ago, before we had kids, we'd be like, what do you mean your husband's cheating on you and he's gay?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, goodbye, double homicide. It's not so sad.

[Jackson Claude]

Simple.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Nothing is simple. And that's what Dear Toasters is all about. Exploring the complexities of humanity. And that's what we will be doing both on Thursday and on Thursday's Patreon episode. So make sure to head over to patreon.com toast which, if you're new here, is our subscription. So if you go to patreon.com the toast, you can join our premium tier, which is 7.99. That's the OG price. It's never been raised. $7.99 for five extra episodes per month. Those episodes range from podcasts to vlogs to videos. I just did a big hair tutorial. We do lots of Q, and as we do more in depth stuff, we get all the ancillary supplemental characters like Ol, Trout, Margot. They all come on there. All of our birth stories are on there. It's a great way to get extra content for, like, when you're bored. And also support the toast for the price of a coffee. Actually, I don't even think coffee costs $7.99 these days. Nothing does. Except Patreon.

[Jackson Claude]

The price of a boot is staggering.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The price of a boot is staggering.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I was actually just at dinner with, like, a newish friend, and so we were just, like, swapping life stories and. And we were talking about the toast and, like, she wanted to hear, like, the whole story.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That sounds like such a fun dinner. I love when people ask about me.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No, so I was telling her, like, the whole story. She was like, how did you even start the show? So I started, like, you know, with the breath and everything. And I was talking about how we started the toast, and I was saying how, like, Patreon was just, like, the bigot. Like, it just changed our lives and, like, it really did. We love the Patreon. We share also this show. We talk a lot about our personal lives. We also talk about celebrities. But, like, when there's more to talk about our personal lives, like, we do that on the Patreon. It's just very personal to us and we love it and we love the community. I was just reminded and telling the story, like, how much I love the Patreon community.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Patreon was there for us when no one else was.

[Jackson Claude]

No one else was.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It was the first time we ever were able to monetize our show, which was very exciting. And I feel like a lot of the big streamers are, like, trying to infringe on Patreon. They're all launching their own subscriptions. Like, we are so loyal to Patreon. We will never leave.

[Jackson Claude]

Never leave Patreon.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We will be the last ones on the Titanic.

[Jackson Claude]

And also, if you've never heard of Patreon, you're probably like, oh, I don't know how to use that. Like, what? It's just a website. You could download the app if you want, but just go to patreon.com the toast. You make a login, and then all the content is there. So if you've never heard of Patreon, it's not like this newfound Thing that it's inaccessible. It's just go to the website and

[Jacqueline Foley]

then you get access to all the old stuff. So I think now there's probably like over 400 episodes.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, we've been doing five episodes a month for almost nine years.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Do the math. Five times 12? 60. 60 times nine. 540.

[Jackson Claude]

What is nine times six? There's a 554. Okay. There's a five. 500 episodes.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's the first time, like, probably since sixth grade that, like, my times tables have come in handy.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I. You know what I was doing yesterday? Percentages. Remember how I used to, like, blank over blank equals x over 100. Remember that?

[Jacqueline Foley]

X over 100 blank of ratios.

[Jackson Claude]

Ratios. I needed to find out the ratio. And so in my mind, I'm like, Blake over Blake. And then you take divide 100 by

[Jacqueline Foley]

the top number and then divide across.

[Jackson Claude]

Yep.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You know, I actually.

[Jackson Claude]

26% from math.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, the practical application of policy. Things I actually use in my everyday life. I do the ratios a lot. I'm always trying to figure out, like, percentages.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, that's. I. I needed a pen and paper, but I was able to do it in my head.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Something I never used.

[Jackson Claude]

My last grade cell was hanging on that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I probably couldn't even tell you. Like, I could not probably do it right now. It was like long division. Remember? It was like, under.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no, I know, I know.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Square. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I haven't done that in a

[Jacqueline Foley]

while, and I have no idea how to.

[Jackson Claude]

But, like, the calculator app on my phone can't do that ratio for me in the way that cross.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, but in the past, I've just been like to Google.

[Jackson Claude]

But, like, your calculator app can do long division. That's why you haven't done long division.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Right.

[Jackson Claude]

But, like, they don't know how to see it like I see it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. My ratios and ratio, like, means something so different these days.

[Jackson Claude]

It does, but it's. It stems from the same thing.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Correct.

[Jackson Claude]

So you. You do still use those tools.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. What else can I tell you? Oh, so, like, Ben went to a James Taylor concert last night.

[Jackson Claude]

You know, he called me from the concert and then was talking. He did. We were working on something and.

[Jacqueline Foley]

What the are you working on?

[Jackson Claude]

Well, we're working on a lot of things, but yesterday, specifically, we were working on my car.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And he's talking to me, and he knows I didn't have a voice. I spoke to him earlier in the day, and I'm like, at A whisper.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

He was like, I'm at the James Taylor concert. I can't hear you. I'm like, you called the girl with no voice from the James Taylor concert.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And he's been, like, pestering me to go with him. Ben and his family are obsessed with James Taylor and, like, yeah, I know a couple of the hits, but, like, I really don't need to go to the concert. It's like, what? We have to get a babysitter? Like, I'll stay home. You guys go. Have fun. And Ben has just been, like, bothering me about coming. I think he also, like, got me a ticket just being like, in case you want to come. He really thought I would come, like, and I just didn't. Like, I was not. You know when you're just not going to something. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm not going. Happy birthday, Bruce. Sorry, I'm not going. Like, it wasn't even his birthday. It was like three days ago.

[Jackson Claude]

This is his 50th birthday.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It was. I saw videos like, no Shade to James Taylor because, like, I think he's got a really powerful. No tea, no Tino Shade. It just looked like a little, like, lackluster. And I love him, but Ben was like, he barely played the hits. And I just like, I was so happy with my decision. Like, yeah, I was really, really happy.

[Jackson Claude]

But even James Taylor at his best.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I've seen fire and I've seen rain I've seen sunny days that I thought

[Jackson Claude]

would never end I don't really know who James Taylor is.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay. But you know a couple of songs. Ready? You know songs. Winter Thongs. Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. I don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

All you've got to do is call

[Jacqueline Foley]

in my mind I've gone to Carolina. Do you know that one? No less popular. Do you know Fire and Rain? Sing it. I've seen fire and I've seen rain I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end I've seen Lonely, by the way. You have. I've seen only times when I could not find a friend. Do you remember that turnt movie we used to watch as kids called Camp where it was like all these turnt hormonal teenagers at a drama camp.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And that's like sort of the penultimate song. Like.

[Jackson Claude]

Got it. Got it. Well, you know what? Some of these songs I don't know, but, like, they really sound lovely. He sounds like a talented guy.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Absolutely talented.

[Jackson Claude]

So cool. Famous for a reason.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, yeah. Things. He did that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Oh, that's funny.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. Just felt really good about, like, being home in bed at a reasonable hour watching Love Island. Like, it was really good.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The crazy thing is that when Love island started, which you guys know, I watch it at 8:35 because that's when it secretly goes on Peacock. It was still light out. It's so crazy, like, not it being light out during Love Island.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I know. I have to say, one good thing that's come out of Love island, it forced us to get the kids sleeping in their own beds at a reasonable hour. Starting in their own beds. Because they used to, like, start in my bed, but, like, if I have to watch Love island, then, like, Zach has to put them in bed. And so he puts them in. In their beds.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And you certainly cannot watch it with them. New.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, my God. I would. I would literally never. I never. I just wouldn't watch it. But like, so then those early days, like, I was like, I couldn't be in the bed with them. So, like, zap put them to bed and he, like, really tried to put them in their own beds. And then they got into, like, a decent rhythm so I could put them in their own beds. Like now they start in their own beds and I watch Love Island. So, like, I. I have to say thank you to Love Island.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Do they stay in their own beds?

[Jackson Claude]

No, no, they start in their own beds. Then they're welcome to come in at any point in the.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of course.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, of course.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And that's like, well, thank you to Love Island.

[Jackson Claude]

Thank you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's what they intended for the sleep training. Well, let's dive in because we have a lot to talk about, including Love Island USA recap.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. Without further ado. Da doo da do, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you need to know.

[Jacqueline Foley]

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[Jackson Claude]

Thanks.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I meant smelly in a positive way.

[Jackson Claude]

Thanks, Turo.

[Jacqueline Foley]

My pleasure.

[Jackson Claude]

Our first story, Taylor Swift closes out fiance Travis Kelce's tight ends university with a concert and surprise performance with Laney Wilson. So Taylor Swift performed at TEU last night for her mans and George kd. She got on stage and sang Love Story with Laney Wilson. Sin.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's so funny because like this is the second year in a row where like TEU is the biggest event. Everyone's talking. What the hell is it? Like, I don't know, Is it an organization? Is it a community event? Like I have no idea what the university actually does. Is it a training program?

[Jackson Claude]

Like what are they teaching? Yeah. And is it like physical things? Like is it training, you know, getting on the field, doing tight end exercises? Or is it sitting in the classroom and learning? Is it networking for other tight ends?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I feel like it was started by three tight ends. So they call it tight end university. But and I'm just guessing here, I've done no research and I. You know what, I don't even want to know. I think that the three tight ends got together and started like almost like a community outreach program for like youth in sports. I feel like it's like a camp. I really don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

You think there's youth involved? I didn't think that there's youth involved.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, you don't think it's for the youth?

[Jackson Claude]

No, I thought it was for like a high level tight ends to come together.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, you think it's like a. Like a sorority? Like a fraternity within the NFL?

[Jackson Claude]

Yes, like community of tight ends.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think I like my idea better, but I think you're right.

[Jackson Claude]

Yours is like. You think it's like aspiring tight ends.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, I feel like athletes, when they get to a certain level, they're always like giving back to the boy.

[Jackson Claude]

You girls club? No.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Or like best buddies.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Is this not that okay?

[Jackson Claude]

I think this is like, you know, like a fraternity. Like the YPO of tight ends.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's like bbyo.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no, I think you mean ypo.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, bbyo, like the Jewish program for Jewish youth.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, but again with the youth.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, sorry. I care about the youth. I believe the children are a future. Sorry, Travis. Kelsey does it. Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

No, he Doesn't George Kittle certainly doesn't.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay. I have to tell you, I'm like, I'm obsessed with George Kittle for two reasons. One, I saw an interview, Entertainment Tonight. I'm sure that they were prepped because Taylor was there. It's before the wedding, and they obviously got permission to say, like, one or two things. But I. I don't know. I don't believe Claire and George have any formal media training. But it was literally an exercise in perfection. Like, how to answer questions with. While saying nothing but giving a little bit. So they said, yes, we got invited. I'm sure they were allowed to say that. And it's pretty obvious we have no idea when it is. And I think that Taylor and Travis have, like, decided to confirm that it's next week, either because it is. Or maybe it isn't.

[Jackson Claude]

Or maybe it isn't. But here, what we know is that the guests who were invited don't know where it is.

[Jacqueline Foley]

They're told a day to be ready. And I think they were told a city to maybe be in a certain city, which is Manhattan, but no one has shared that.

[Jackson Claude]

Confirmed that Based on what George Kittle said yesterday, is that people are invited. They don't know where it is.

[Jacqueline Foley]

George said he thinks, like, he. That there's just going to be a huge jet waiting to take everyone somewhere.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. He was just, like, saying, you know, he's wearing a blue suit. He really, like, diverted the question and was respectful, even though, like, the qu. Like, people need to stop asking people. I know. It's so scared. People are so scared.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, I know.

[Jackson Claude]

And you can see, like, Claire did not say anything because she was not.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She was letting George lead. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Because, like, if George says it like, he.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like George, he's so crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Right?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I love the name George.

[Jackson Claude]

George is a great name.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's a great name. It doesn't, like, go with the vibe. I've started, like Ruby.

[Jackson Claude]

It goes with mine.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, it does. My vibe is very much like elder Jewish, like, immigrant, which I love. Like, I want my children to all be found at, like, Second Avenue Deli. Like, you know.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But I. I can respect, like, the name George is so party. Actually, a friend of mine has a nephew named George, and whenever she's like, oh, George came over, I'm like, okay.

[Jackson Claude]

Very curious.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. And so cutesy.

[Jackson Claude]

It's very cute. It does the other thing, but it's not a long and a short. Now I'm in long and short.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I want to talk. Just very stuck.

[Jackson Claude]

Long and short.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I have one negative thing to say about George Kittle. Because Taylor performed and she like, literally said George requested a song and it was like, Taylor Swift has never taken requests. Like, it's not a karaoke bar. And like, you request Love Story, literally, the song she sang 7 million times. Publicly, personally, concerts, private events. Like, seriously, like, if you were a real fan, you could have literally requested any other song. No, not even Peace.

[Jackson Claude]

Obviously, I was gonna say to you. I know you would request Peace. What do you think George Kittle should have requested?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay. Like, something that's still popular that he would know. Like Sparks Fly.

[Jackson Claude]

Sparks Fly.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's like a well known song.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think no.

[Jacqueline Foley]

He would have chosen something from 1989. I would love to hear, like, a 1989 bonus track. Like, okay. But he wouldn't be chosen. George Kittle, myself. George Kittle with, like, Blank space style.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, literally, I'm happier to hear a love story over those two. You have to think, like, it would have been nice to hear maybe out of the Woods. I don't know if he's an out of the woods guy, but that would be great.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, but I guess, like, she's getting married this week, so Love Stories.

[Jackson Claude]

And you know what? I think Love Story goes platinum in the locker rooms. Like, Travis loves it, George loves it. The players love Love Story.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But just imagine, like, you are a chosen person. Like, you get to request a song from Taylor. Okay, but am I like. Is it a solo concert? Am I like, raging?

[Jackson Claude]

You're in George Kittle's position. Taylor performing for Girly Swirly. Because I have a relationship with Travis,

[Jacqueline Foley]

I have to give, like, five answers. Okay. And let me just look at her whole catalog. Just make sure I'm not missing anything. But I definitely think State of Grace, like, if she started playing. Okay, that's one I know mine, honestly. King of my Heart. And I want to say a lot of my favorite songs are from, like, ttpd Folklore Evermore, but I wouldn't choose them for this. I just want to say I.

[Jackson Claude]

This is a hack. I would do all too well. 10 minute version.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's so good.

[Jackson Claude]

Make her work for it. And also, like, at Eras tour, that song went the hardest.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's true. Actually, what I think went the hardest

[Jackson Claude]

was for me, Fearless, the song Fearless.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

That's so interesting.

[Jacqueline Foley]

When she was at the guitar and she opens up and she did the hard hands, like, that really went. Actually, surprisingly, what also went really hard for me was the Archer. That was like something that really.

[Jackson Claude]

I love the Archer.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. So, yeah, let me just go album by album. Here's what I would choose, like, Dead ass from Fearless. Ready?

[Jackson Claude]

And then you have to pick one co journer.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, really? Forever Always would be so good, but it's not like. It's not, like, boppy enough, you know Any raids? Actually, no. It would be good.

[Jackson Claude]

You know what? I think I'd have to choose. You Belong with me. You Belong with me is like the climb of Taylor Swift songs for me.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's true.

[Jackson Claude]

It changed my life.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It stayed. Okay, so from. Yeah. Then from Red, I would definitely do State of Grace.

[Jackson Claude]

You belong with me. Yeah, it's. You belong with me. Sorry.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I might also do Holy Ground, but that's definitely not going to be, like, my main choice, you know?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Speak now. Lots of good options. Sparks fly.

[Jackson Claude]

Sparks fly.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The story of Us I would choose. That's my number one. I would choose the Story of Us. Like, she literally has never sang it, and it's such a.

[Jackson Claude]

What about Long live?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, of course, of course. But we're like, at a concert, we're trying to get. It's a football thing. We're trying to get people like you get one.

[Jackson Claude]

Wildest dreams is Long live is amped. Wildest dreams.

[Jacqueline Foley]

This is. This is so hard. I really don't have an answer for you, but I can tell you it's not going to be from the life of a showgirl.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, for me, it's. It's. You Belong with Me. So I do feel like Love story and you belong with me are like, of the same vein. I understand why that's what he chose,

[Jacqueline Foley]

but just, like, imagine if she came out and like, saying Marjorie, like, imagine if the person she was taking requests from was like a Die Hard fan whose favorite song was, like, white Horse, you know?

[Jackson Claude]

Right. But I think the Die Hard fan would make her sing Peace because she refuses.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, then that would just be, like, harmful to Taylor. And I don't think Taylor will ever sing Peace ever again because it's. It's literally the definition of why her and Joe Alwyn broke up.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, that was cute.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And Lainey Wilson.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, yeah. I want to talk about.

[Jackson Claude]

Lainey Wilson is a friend to all. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I feel as though she has, like, very low key swirlitude. It's not obvious, but she does. You know, she was in the Hannah Montana special. She's out here performing Taylor Swift. Like, she doesn't look swirly.

[Jackson Claude]

She looks like very, you know, con you.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. But I think she's got that swirlitude.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. Like, at this rate, she might be a toaster.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

She just has, like, you know, I don't want to say basic, but, like, common interests. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And she just doesn't look like she would, you know.

[Jackson Claude]

No, she does.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And also, do you feel like being tapped to perform at this event, like, kind of sucks because everyone's just like, oh, it's Lady Wilson. Is Taylor coming? Like, they're just sort of waiting for Taylor the whole time. She did it last year.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I. I don't think so. Okay. I didn't get that feeling. It seemed like a warm and loving environment.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay. At the teu.

[Jackson Claude]

Our next story. Kylie Jenner is the new face of Meta Glasses.

[Jacqueline Foley]

There were a lot of people posting Meta Glasses.

[Jackson Claude]

Kylie was the biggest one.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Are you having deja vu? Didn't everybody make glasses like 10 years snap? They all make glasses like five, 10 years ago. And, like, it was cool and novel, but, like, they didn't really as sincere would say, emerge into the culture. Like, nobody wore them in a serious way.

[Jackson Claude]

Want glasses like this. They don't want, like, camera wearable techie glasses. No, Glass George Glass.

[Jacqueline Foley]

George Glass, Google Glass, Snap Glass. And now the samples coming. Snapple. Snapchat's coming out with another one. I want Snapple glasses. Like, what's with the glasses? People need to let the mouse go. People don't want glasses, like, with tech in them.

[Jackson Claude]

I just want to see. I need to know how much Kylie was paid for this. I think she was paid $1 billion because it's such a good move by Meta. She's the coolest person in the world. If anybody can make glasses school, like, it would be her. Her voice is in the glasses. They greet you with like, rise and shine. And like, if you ask. Yeah. If you ask for the weather, it's like her telling you the weather for the day. Like, it's her voice in the glasses.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So, like, so it's not just like an ad.

[Jackson Claude]

They literally said, like, who's the coolest person on earth that can make these glasses cool? And then, like, I think they would have paid her $100 million because.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And they're gonna use her likeness and her voice, which is like a huge thing in AI people getting paid for their voice.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't even think 100 million is enough. And like, for me, I don't want to use the term, like, sell out, because I get your bag. No.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I love selling out. Like, I want to.

[Jackson Claude]

I love this. And I say it actually in a good way and in a In a prideful way, like. But I believe that she sold out for this opportunity. Yay. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Only because, like, glasses are just not it. They've been trying for, like, decades to make tech glasses a thing, and sometimes you. I mean, of course you could ever, you know, predict what's going to take off, what people are going to love, but we tried this once. Everyone did. Why are we doing it again?

[Jackson Claude]

And also, like, what makes this different? Oh, my God. What made you want to party? This interview with Elle. What made you want to partner with Meta? I don't know. The paycheck.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But she's obviously.

[Jackson Claude]

Glasses have always been my thing. Come again?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Literally. Since when?

[Jackson Claude]

Actually, I wear sunglasses a lot as well. But I like, by the way, sunglasses are everyone's thing.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's, like, not a thing to have as a thing.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's not. But actually, some people, like, are more sunglasses than others. You know, like, some people just, like, raw. Jog it outside.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. I don't feel like I'm ever really seeing Kylie with that many sunglasses, if I'm being honest.

[Jackson Claude]

I can't even get a package outside my door without putting on sunglasses.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I agree. I feel it's definitely damaging my eyes because whenever I walk outside without glasses, I'm like, Like a crypt keeper.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I know I actually, like, go through, like, small bits of trying to strengthen my eyes.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes. I'm trying to, like, create some sort of immunity.

[Jackson Claude]

The key is. And actually, Shannon and I talked about this a few years ago, and it stuck with me. Like, you have to, like, not wear sunglasses, like, early in the morning and later in the day to adjust, like, at high time. You can. But, yeah, I'm always trying to, like, wean from sunglasses.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. Back to Kylie's most moronic statement that she just made.

[Jackson Claude]

There was more. There was more. Hold on. Glasses have always been my thing. They're the first thing I notice on someone, honestly. So when Meta came to me and said I could actually design a pair, not just show up for a campaign, I was like, wait, this is different. I got to be involved in everything. The shape, the colors, the packaging, even the little chime sound it makes when you put them on.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's just crazy. This how you know a product is bad because I'm, like, very influenced by Kylie, and I do not have one iota of, like, desire to purchase. How much are they?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I don't know. I just, like, I can't take this on right now. Okay. Like, I'm happy with my phone, and I just got. I got One of those.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I want to say I'm not even happy with my phone. Like, too addicted to it. I'm, like, actively trying.

[Jackson Claude]

More than enough. It's more than enough. I just got, like, one of those Camp Snap cameras.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The best.

[Jackson Claude]

So, like, I'm covered. I. I don't feel like I need to be capturing more of my life than I already am. Like, I feel sufficiently captured. I feel sufficiently, like, close with technology, you know, Like, I don't need it on my face. Also, if AirPods are bad for you, can't imagine what. This is so true.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Think of the radiation.

[Jackson Claude]

So I, I support and love her and I think, you know, this, this is great money. And, you know, if the Knicks keep winning every season, like, her and Timothy are going to need to go to, like, a lot of expensive games and

[Jacqueline Foley]

the jets and tickets for free.

[Jackson Claude]

The jets and everything. I could add the Jets.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So I know they'll need the money. And so I like this. For that reason, I'm glad that, like, Meta, out of everyone on earth, like, chose her because that's the right choice.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, they should just. Just. This goes to the Knicks fund.

[Jackson Claude]

I just don't. I just don't want them. Okay.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And I don't want everyone else to get them. And then everyone else message to everyone

[Jacqueline Foley]

else, please don't buy these.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, like, then everyone else is, like, taking content the way she was on the bike. And like, everyone else is, like, taking, like, phoneless selfies. Like, I just, I can't keep up. Okay? Just please. No.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Speaking of selfies, like, when Corbin and Permita were taking a picture sitting right next to Caleb, it was very upset.

[Jackson Claude]

Caleb needs to, like, stop acting like a loser because he is a very handsome, lovely guy. So stop acting like a loser.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's good advice for kind of everyone

[Jackson Claude]

on the island acting like nobody wants him. Like he's discard. He's one of the most handsome guys there. He has a heart of gold. Like, stop acting like second fiddle.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Jackie. You said Corbin. I'm like, what are you talking about, a heart of gold? Caleb.

[Jackson Claude]

Sorry. Now go back.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Caleb. Oh, my God. I was genuinely nodding my head because I'm a supportive sister. What the hell is she talking about?

[Jackson Claude]

Caleb needs to stop acting like a loser. Like nobody wants him.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, I disagree with you. Nobody wants him. And everybody needs to stop treating him like a loser. The fact that he cannot get arrested. The hottest, sweetest guy on the show

[Jackson Claude]

is just proof that disgusting nature.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Nature of. Yeah, like the fact that he can literally cannot get Arrested is just proof that, like, sincere, who is the worst guy in the world, has had three girls now fall for him. Like, it's just. He's so on the wrong show. Him and Anaya need to go on.

[Jackson Claude]

Love is blind at this point. I guess Anaya has the personality for love is fine, which isn't a compliment. But, like, at this point, like, Anaya's not. Not my fave.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, of course not. I miss my man.

[Jackson Claude]

No. Even last night, she was just like, like, just talking so emphatically at the camera. Like, you know, just saying all these things that's just like, don't line up about how, like, they're the best and they're the baddest. And I'm gonna, like, it's just all this, like, hype and it's like. But you're going to go cry for Casey.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, oh, I'm sorry. That's the theme of the entire villa right now. Every single girl. This villa's about to shake. Oh, I'm gonna go. So Ham. They're crying on the couch. I miss my man. Not one of them has kissed anyone. Kada literally won't kiss this guy. Zach is over here sleeping in a bed with someone, but we haven't seen it because they're obviously cutting out Alana. But literally, Kate is over here. Be like, this fella's gonna shake when he comes back. You won't even kiss this guy.

[Jackson Claude]

No. Like the. The talk versus the walk from Anaya.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Anaya. From the whole group. I'm sorry, but really. Yeah, Anaya.

[Jackson Claude]

And that is the most. To me, like, the most glaring, obvious.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Because Melanie's like, pining for sincere, but she's not in her confessionals. Like, no. And you guys turn it up.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She's really not into anyone there.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I don't know. That conversation with.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, that was a turning point. The vital.

[Jackson Claude]

We're okay, third story memoir news.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, well, let me think. Who's writing a memoir?

[Jackson Claude]

You don't know, but I think you're gonna read it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Really?

[Jackson Claude]

Memoirs of a Joe Manganiello.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You're kidding.

[Jackson Claude]

Joe Manganiello is sharing a lot about his life threatening autoimmune related illnesses that resulted in him having an amputation in his forthcoming memoir called. What you would never guess. Oh, Bloodlines.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Okay, you know what I was actually gonna say, because he's from true blood. That's like how he got famous.

[Jackson Claude]

And this is so he said he dealt with a cascade of autoimmune related illnesses that attacks his thyroid, digestive system. Skin, lungs and eyes. During the seven year battle, he dealt with chronic pain, a life saving organ amputation, existential crisis, and a prolonged fight for survival that left doctors with few answers and no clear explanation. He also turned to an unorthodox form of treatment. He used shamans, pagan rituals, ancient myths, long lost family records, and the rebirth of his own spirituality to try to aid his illness. So I guess that's where the bloodlines also comes in. Like he's tracing his ancestry to try and understand his health. Maybe you won't be reading it even though maybe sort of. It sort of reminds me of you in your thumb.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It does. Maybe I need to check my ancient bloodlines to see what's wrong with my thumb.

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe you should write a memoir called Some Wars.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I love that. Back to Joe Manganiello. All tea, all shade. I love this man more than anything. I've actually never wanted to read anything less. I don't think Joe Manganiello is like a celebrity who's like really, Whose personal life and career is like really interesting enough for a memoir. So I guess he had to take an alternate route and tell us about his autoimmune disease. But like, I'm genuinely all set. I have my own health issues. I don't know if you guys heard the Prefast 5 banner. Like, I certainly don't need to spend my leisurely time reading about someone else's. And then once you hit once. When I hear the word shaman personally, I just shut down because that means the person I'm talking to is like deeply not serious and pagan rituals. Yeah. Demonic. Yeah. I think that also when we talk about like chronic illnesses and autoimmune, there is a reputation like for them being like fake and made up. And I really do believe that they're very much real. But I think in like celebrity culture, people use like autoimmune disease, like Lyme disease. They use it to. I think a lot of times these autoimmune disease cover up anorexia. It's like, well, you think you're not feeling well, but it's because you're anorexic and you haven't eaten in three weeks. Or like they do it for attention. So I don't know. I'm not saying that Joe Manganiello is doing that. I'm just saying like, I'm not interested in finding out.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I agree. No, this seems like very serious. It was like seven years of his life, like debilitating and. But I agree with you. Sometimes autoimmune diseases uses like A blanket to cover up, like, you know, drug and alcohol abuse.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like a thousand.

[Jackson Claude]

It could be a million things. But it's also like a very serious thing sometimes.

[Jacqueline Foley]

For real people. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, for real people.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So this is probably the first time I'll have like something. First and last time I'll have something negative to say about Joe Manganiello.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I'm not and like, but I love you. Is it a picture book?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, and when we talk about organ amputation, which one could be kidney?

[Jackson Claude]

Lung?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I guess we'll have to read the book to find out.

[Jackson Claude]

Kidney or lung?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Kidney or lung?

[Jackson Claude]

Our next story, our fourth story. Are you ready for it?

[Jacqueline Foley]

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[Jackson Claude]

Thank you turtwide.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You're welcome.

[Jackson Claude]

Next Lizzo's new album fails to chart as dismal first week sales have been revealed. Rolling Stone has reported that Lizzo sold just 2649 copies of her new album and achieved just 2.7 million on demand streams. According to music data company luminate. In its second week, sales dropped to 650 units. Also, not one of the album singles have become chart hits hits on the Billboard 200. Lizzo herself is speaking out against perceived changes in the music industry, saying the industry changed so much in the last three years. Streaming replaced radio and I was a radio darling. That's how my fans discovered my music. She also said that the very obvious and public attack on her career has shifted the public's perception of her.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You know, I just want to say

[Jackson Claude]

it has this by three of her former backup dance answers.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It has for sure. But I feel like in culture people like scandals come and go very quickly and it's very rare that something sticks and really takes someone down. We always say like no one's really cancelable. But Lizzo's been such an interesting example and I really think that a part of it that's just not being Said because people are like, it's this, it's that, it's radio. I think the music sucks. And that's. That's huge. Like, because when you think about there are a lot of artists, we're always saying so many people separate the art from the artist. Like, you just like good songs. Like, why should we be punished? If she was releasing, like True Bangers, like, people would just forget about it. People forget about all the time, like, worse stuff than she did. I think her music sucks. And I think that there was also. I read a huge article, like, people are like, saying her label has sort

[Jackson Claude]

of like left her out, abandoned her.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. But the thing is, is I feel like these days, like, yeah, of course having a label behind you is huge. And you can always tell when somebody's getting like, pushed by the label. It's annoying. So much of it is just like bootstrapping on Tick Tock. Like, that's where. And she does the most on Tick Tock these days. She always was like the darling of Tick Tock and now she's like, making, you know, tic tacs about Love island just to, like, boost her. Yeah, it's. It's like dire out there. But I think that what's not being said is, like, the music is just not good.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, if the music were good, like, people would be listening to it. People, you know, even I think about, like Ariana Grande, who's had like a worse PR nightmare over the last few years than her. And people still stream the music because, like, when it's good, it's good.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, people just can't quit her. And like, you just, you learn to just like, grapple with whatever the accusations are. Everyone has. I mean, no, but also like Jackie, who had a bigger scandal than Morgan Wallen, like.

[Jackson Claude]

No, everyone has he to Chris Brown.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Well, of course. And then like, you were, I mean, Michael Jackson. R. Kelly. Yeah, of course, that's what I'm saying. Like, for somebody to be taken out completely, like, wiped 2600 albums, like, wiped completely from the face of the universe. It's a. It's not just one thing, but I think what's not really being spoken about is like the album being really bad. Now. I do also want to say that I think people are really surprised. Like, obviously 2600 is so low because we're used to like millions of albums, soldiers. But like, when an artist, like a, like a famous artist, not like Taylor, but like a regular artist, it's always the album purchases. A successful album is considered like, like around 50,000. It's not what it used to be because people stream now. So I just a little bit of perspective. It's not like everyone is selling.

[Jackson Claude]

I wasn't expecting. I wasn't expecting a million. 50,000 is a lot.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, right. But it's not like back in the day, like Celine Dion, like millions and millions and millions because people don't buy albums anymore. The structure is different now, of course, when we compare to like Taylor and Adele and Beyonce, like when they. But like regular art, it's like around Lizzo's size. I think they do like 30 to 50.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. So she's very much falling short, of course.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But it's not like everyone's not million song.

[Jackson Claude]

Not one single Billboard 200.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I would love to know like what it really is. Perhaps it's just a perfect storm of the scandal, which she really didn't recover from well, but so many people go through so many scandals and so many bigger ones. Honestly, like.

[Jackson Claude]

Or like, I just wonder, like, where are her fans? Like the people who were like her number one fans, like back four years ago for her last album.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I think that the effects of Ozempic on like Lizzo, the effects of Ozempic on culture. Can't I have to be brought up here as well? Because what I think Ozempic showed the world is that like, well, yes, it's totally okay to be plus size and if you are plus size, you should be treated like a human being. Like, like. But people who are plus size don't want to be plus size. They're not plus size for the most part by choice. So when this thing came that sort of gave you the option to not be anymore, which, like was never an option for most people, myself included. Of course most people are going to take it. And I think a stunning indictment. I don't know if you saw Trisha Paytas for Row.

[Jackson Claude]

I saw that she's doing GLP ones. I didn't know why that's a big deal.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's a big deal because she was very. Actually it's. People are making it into a big deal, but it's not. She's a mom of three, she's a working woman and she's was unhealthy and she just like, literally she's like, I just want to feel good. She's like, does her what I eat in a days now. And she's just like, she still eats a ton. Like, she's like, I'm not even skinny. I'm just like trying to be healthier. She does Pilates. She goes for walks every day. But it's caused, like a huge. Everyone's freaking out. Like, Trisha Paytas is on a GLP1, but she reminds me a little bit of Lizzo, just, like the face of this movement. But I feel like Trisha was, like, unwillingly the face. She just, like, she struggled and wanted to look different.

[Jackson Claude]

Lizzo is the biggest brand. I didn't. Even when I think of Trisha Paytas, I don't think of her.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No. I actually just wanted to talk about Trisha Paytas on GLP ones. That's actually neither here nor there. Lizzo was the face of this movement, and the movement really is no longer a movement because when given the option, most people took the drug. Because while, yes, we're embracing fat and fat is beautiful. Like, it's not our first choice.

[Jackson Claude]

Choice. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So when you were actually, for the first time given a choice, of course you're gonna take it. So I think her. Her sort of messaging became a little irrelevant, I think.

[Jackson Claude]

I think when she, like, she blew up in such a way at the time that she did. And her messaging and just her essence really touched on the zeitgeist of that moment. Yes.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

And that moment has passed.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yep.

[Jackson Claude]

And she's failed to capture whatever moment we're in now. I don't even know. And the music doesn't speak to what we're now. Maybe it's still. I haven't listened to it, so maybe it's still doing that 2018 thing that, you know, everything is a phase. Every, like. But evolve or die. And so no one wants to hear that message right now. That's just not the vibe. So if she didn't evolve, she's stuck in the past. And if she did and it's not good, then it's just not good.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It's just crazy because, like, three or four years ago, she was the most nominated, like, artist at the Grammys that year.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But I think if we think hard about it, there are probably a lot of other cases like this. I mean, it's the Kia Asylum. It's just. We're all talking about it more because, like, Lizzo is so. Talk about able, you know.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes, she is. She's that lightning rod.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. With people, like, talking about her, they, like, you know, just like, pinning things to her, you know, making her, like, just like a. The symbol of a larger conversation. But look at the whole. Every cell at the Kia Asylum. It's this.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, it is.

[Jackson Claude]

It's people with, like, who had A huge moment. Who had a huge moment and failed to follow. Up, up. That's really all it is. I don't think it's like a bigger conversation. I just think, like, you know, sometimes you. Even with influencers, they go super viral. They have.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Blow up so quickly. And then like a few years later, it's like, well, what are you doing now? Because that doesn't last forever.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Right.

[Jackson Claude]

So I think that's just like, natural.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And 2600. At the end of the day, if the saw. If the music was good, people would be listening to it, period.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The thing is, though, also, I think a lot of artists have, like, major flops, but the numbers don't become ahead

[Jackson Claude]

when it's like, why do we know this number?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Right. That's what I'm saying. People also just, like, hate Lizzo and,

[Jackson Claude]

like, want to see her Rolling Stone put it out.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You know, she has a hater there.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, why does Rolling Stone hate Lizzo?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I don't know. But, like, they're definitely artists who have major, major flops, numbers wise.

[Jackson Claude]

Do you think it's because they think she's bananas?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I do think that this is, like, on, like, on the larger scale in terms of flops. Like, people flop a lot. But to not have a single flop single from the album chart, like, that's. That's kind of like disastrous.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I just want to know, like, what happened between Rolling Stone and Lizzo, because it's like, this wouldn't have been the story if they didn't report it.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, yeah. It's true. It's not even like. It's like a Billboard wrote it up. Who, like, does the charts, like.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Or that someone noticed she didn't have a single song on the chart because otherwise, like, how do we get access to how many albums you sold down to the 126 49.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It is publicly available information because we always know how many Taylor does.

[Jackson Claude]

I guess just no one, like, always checks in.

[Jacqueline Foley]

When. Yeah, like a week after the album releases and the charts come out. It has the numbers on it.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. It does, yeah. Our fifth and final story, a little Nick's news. Jordan Woods's lucky orange bag gets a place of honor at the Guggenheim Museum following the Knicks big win.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Is it actually staying there? This was just like a tick tock.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I don't know.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But because she, like, had an interview that went viral saying, like, the bag needs to be in the Guggenheim or the MoMA or she was, like, listed a couple of museums. So somebody got in on the viral Moment. I don't know if it's actually going to stay there.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, it probably won't stay there very long, but maybe for a little bit. Her. So Jordyn woods has her lucky orange bag that she wore to nearly every game leading up to their historic win. And fans, like, knew the bag and his lucky bag. No, no.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And the time she didn't won all their playoff games, like, that's. They were on a run. They lost one game and she didn't bring the bag. It's. And the cool thing is that it's from her brand.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Which is, like, a great thing.

[Jackson Claude]

Her brand is in the Guggenheim.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Woods by Jordan.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So I think, like, the whole bag thing has been really fun, obviously, but, like, for a business owner, it's a dream.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It's obviously been completely sold out since they won't.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's hilarious.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Really cute.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah. And Carl Anthony Towns, like, whenever he's asked about it, he's like, oh, you mean woods by Jordan. Like, he's always making sure the brand name gets in the headline. It's actually so sweet.

[Jackson Claude]

That's really cute.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, they're really cute together. I wonder when they're getting married. Probably soon, like, because basketball is a long season and they have to do it in the off season, which starts now.

[Jackson Claude]

So you think they're gonna get married before the next season?

[Jacqueline Foley]

I feel like they'll maybe get married this summer. Yeah. He keeps calling her wifey, like. Like.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And she had her bachelorette party already. Oh, sorry. Yeah, they're definitely getting married, like, today.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, cute.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That's like, something just to be on the look. Do you think Kylie will be there? Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

What's the connection? Okay. Sorry, I thought you meant Taylor. I don't know. I was just thinking about Taylor. Sorry.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of course. We always are. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

If she's not there, that's. Yeah, she should be there based on what we know.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She should be there based on what we know. But I'm just saying, I know in my heart of heart, like, Jordan has a little bit of hate in her heart for Kyla, but she shouldn't. But they'll never be back where they were. And, like, it's. Yeah. And they shouldn't. It's good. But I know that Jordan, like, is resentful. And I feel like.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like that's not fair. And they shouldn't be at the level that they were because that, like, now they have, like, husbands and children. Of course they were like each other like that. What, are they gonna live together? Again, no. Agreed.

[Jacqueline Foley]

All right, let's dive into Lausa tv. Recap Casa more. Night three, we had probably the craziest challenge. And, like, I'm sorry. Let me just. Let me get it out of the way. Let me get it out of the way. So disgusting that, like, free for all freestyle orgy at the very end. Like, the. The challenge was disgusting up until that point. And I have to. I can't lie, I barely watched, like, when I knew what the premise was. I was like, okay.

[Jackson Claude]

I genuinely was watching the whole time. I found myself, like, if I was wearing pearls, I would have been clutching.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Clutching them.

[Jackson Claude]

I had my hand over my mouth, like, in shock.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The foot, like, so much feet.

[Jackson Claude]

It was insane.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And the whole thing. And I'm glad that, like, the editors. Sorry, excuse me. The producers, like, seem to be a little bit more heavy handed this time because obviously they were very particular about who's gonna win which challenge. And it had to be a tie so that there was a freak off at the end. It was literally a ditty party freak.

[Jackson Claude]

It was like, it was so.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And it's about time they've, like, let the. The islanders, like, they let them be a little too much, and that's how we've gotten in this port situation. So. Yeah, a little bit of heavy handed editing. I was down for editing. Not editing, producing.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Because it was just, like, a little too convenient, you know? And like, we want Zach to think that Kate is really with this guy, so it was smart.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. There were some of them where I actually felt like it shouldn't have been that way. Like someone else needed to win to get that person, like, riled up.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. Like, of course Casey won over an ayah so that she can, like, understand. Hopefully she's moving on.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Hopefully.

[Jackson Claude]

Hopefully. But probably still not. Not.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I. I do like Casey and tiara. But the way Casey is acting in this casa, more like he's up there with sincere. Like, he is bad news. The fact that he, like, had to sleep with Sydney the next night, like, just to go back to tier. Like, she. Why is it, like, why people think it's weird that she's not exploring? I feel like coming in saying, you're my type, I like you, I'm here to see you, is so normal. And it actually, like, should be a quality that he admires about her, but instead it's, like, pissing him off.

[Jackson Claude]

I really like her energy and her approach. I mean, it's just crazy that it's for Casey, but. Fine. But, like, where's that Energy for Caleb.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, I feel sick, Parmita. Like, jump ship so hard. You know what?

[Jackson Claude]

He can't handle all that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Corbin.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I like them.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The thing is there's nobody here for Caleb. I think that it probably was Kenzie and I just think Kenzie is not who the producers thought she was going to be.

[Jackson Claude]

Agreed with that she's not who I

[Jacqueline Foley]

thought she was gonna be. I don't even know who the she is. Like, that conversation about sugar spice, everything nice with that freaky guy whose name I don't know like, was genuinely some of the most painful I've had to sit through.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I agree, but I think I'm a visual. Oh, he was. Oh, my God. He was.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You are.

[Jackson Claude]

He was messing with her, Claudia. He was messing with her because he wanted to keep looking at her boobs.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of course, of course. He goes, I'm a visual learner.

[Jackson Claude]

Her.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She's like, you are.

[Jackson Claude]

Me too.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And he was like, yeah, same. You just said that.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I know, but she was like, being funny.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Coy.

[Jackson Claude]

No, he was being funny. He's like, I'm a visual. Let me see those boobs again. I actually, I, I like, I didn't have an issue with him. I like them together. I think that they're a fit and I'm glad that Corbin has Parmita. I just need love for Caleb.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Kenzie, like, Kenzie is the sincere of the girl side, except that she doesn't have the power that sincere has. Like, but she's lowkey. Like, you've what I've been waiting for. Who have you been. Wait, you haven't waited one second?

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think what she meant was like, someone who is her type, who she also, like, gets along with, you know, like, they brought in Caleb for her, but she just like, didn't connect with him. And as much as, like, her and Corbin were connected, she kept saying like, he's not her usual type. And I think, I mean, we could see it. It was all physical between them.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Them. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, what the did they talk about?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Also, like, Corbin, like, hates her. Like, every time he gets asked about it, he's like, I haven't thought about her once.

[Jackson Claude]

Why does he hate her? She was nothing but nice to him.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Obsessed. I don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

So that was rude. And yeah, all the OGs are sort of like retreating back to one another. Bryce and Trinity, like, very much are very. And they will winning. They will come back to each other. It will be very cute. And then they will.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Agreed, Agreed. Brinity is gonna be Like, Brendy will take it all. Casey is not coming back to Anaya, and I is still a question mark. And then Sincere's like, is she a solidified question mark? These guys also talk in so many analogies. Like, Sincere's always been like, sincere. She's chocolate chip cookie dough, and I'm chocolate chip. But, like, sometimes I like chocolate chip. Even Soul was like, he's apple pie. And I don't always like apple pie, but maybe he's apple pie that I like.

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe he's a honey crap crisp apple.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, the analogies are killing me.

[Jackson Claude]

The craziest analogies. Sincere is the one.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I saw somebody say, like, last night's episode was sincere versus the English language. Like, he can't talk, and he's always like, epitome. That was insane.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, but who am I to judge?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of course. What else happened on last night's episode besides that freaky. Oh, and then, like, Caleb has been thrown together with this random girl. What's her name? Jaden Face. She has pink eyes. Nobody else.

[Jackson Claude]

She does.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She's got some funky eye infection. Like, there. She has. I was actually very worried. I hope it's not contagious. We need to get a medic on.

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe from having someone's ass on her face.

[Jacqueline Foley]

It was before, but no.

[Jackson Claude]

In the Heat Rising challenge.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Seriously? We need a medic. She looks sick.

[Jackson Claude]

Sick. I didn't even notice. But, like, I won't hear a word of slander for anyone who's giving Caleb the time.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I know. The thing is, and it pains me to say this, like, Caleb has to go home. Like, this is just not the place for him.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's really. It's not.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, and then Alana was in the episode for a half a second. I'm fairly certain she's probably already home. Now. They. You said this. I don't know if you said it on the show. You texted me, but she's kind of like an important plot device for Zach Vada. And we need Zach to, like, kind of like her so her being whisked away doesn't help the divide they're trying to create between Kada and Zach. So she will be sent home when the villa reunites?

[Jackson Claude]

No, but I think they're gonna wait to see what Zach decides. And Zach is gonna send her home.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, right. Zach's going back with Kate is going backwards.

[Jackson Claude]

It's gonna handle itself. But if she were there, they're gonna wait to see if he will bring her to the villa and Then even if he did bring her to the villa, then the next day they would send her home. Home. And he has to deal with the consequences.

[Jacqueline Foley]

That would be great.

[Jackson Claude]

Right? But he's not even bringing her.

[Jacqueline Foley]

So the guy that's Kata and I don't know any of the new people's names. I know the girls, but I don't know the guys. The guy that Kata is chatting with, okay, his name is Che. He looks just like Brian who won last season. Does nobody think that?

[Jackson Claude]

Joey Kamasta.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Oh, and he looks like Joey Kamasta. And why he looks most like Joey Kamasa? It's because he's a little, like, fruity. No. Does nobody else think that he might be gay? The way he talks, he's like very. I think him and Kate are getting along because, like, he's one of the girls. A little swirly. Yeah. Like, does nobody else think that?

[Jackson Claude]

I was just like, No, I didn't think that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Maybe it was just that he looked like Joey Kamasta. That it was like that.

[Jackson Claude]

I thought maybe there's a gay man.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I thought he looked like Joey comes to too. That's really funny. What else? Oh, and then Anaya and Carl, like, that's.

[Jackson Claude]

If she doesn't.

[Jacqueline Foley]

A really good match.

[Jackson Claude]

Fool.

[Jacqueline Foley]

She is a fool, though. I think that it's been made clear. No, no. If she does pick him, like, I'll have respect for her. But like. And because I understand it's hard to leave your og. It's like Stockholm syndrome. I get it. But she has proven to us, like, time and time again that she is a fool. I am almost certain that she will go back to Casey and he will bring back Tierra.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, and he should bring back Tierra. He really likes her and she's a great gal. I love these Casa girl girls.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yes. Great crop.

[Jackson Claude]

I really like them. I want more of them to come to the village.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, well, Permita will be there.

[Jackson Claude]

Parmita will be there. TT Jaden will be there.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Jaden will be there. I don't need Sydney. She freaks me out. That conversation about whipped cream. Like, she was like, do you do freaky stuff, like toys and stuff? And Casey was like, no. But he's like, such a big talker. He's always talking about how he wants.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

But he's like, no, I don't do toys, boys. He's like, I mean, like, have you done, like, whipped cream? What the was up?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. I like her though, but I don't think she's coming Back.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Me neither. And I don't think that Alana is coming back either.

[Jackson Claude]

And then. Oh, Sincere and Amora.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Amora. Okay, so the thing is, I actually get the vibe that Sincere does not like her.

[Jackson Claude]

No, he's doing the soul thing again.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, but with soul. Like, I believed him. I really thought he'd liked her.

[Jackson Claude]

And you would have believed him now, except we just witnessed.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Witnessed the soul gate. No, but every time he talks, like, to respond to her and reciprocate her feelings, he, like, hesitates a lot. And I don't know if it's the editing. They're trying to make us think that he's thinking about Melanie.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I think that he's, like, trying to explore for the sake of being an explorer, but he's going Back to Melanie 100.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And I hope that someone can get through to Melanie. I feel like. Is it, like, allowed to tell what you've seen on tv? Because I wonder, what's his name?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Veneers.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know his name.

[Jacqueline Foley]

I gotta say, I think it might be Corey.

[Jackson Claude]

Corey.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Those are some of the craziest videos I've ever seen. Like, honestly, they're enormous. He told Melanie, like, what they've seen on tv and, like, what? Not the reflection from the.

[Jackson Claude]

I like what I've seen.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No, but he also said, like, I've seen about Sincere. Like, I feel like he was sort of hinting to her that she's coming off looking stupid. Because then in the confessional, she was like, I really don't want to look stupid.

[Jackson Claude]

Interesting.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Don't you feel like she's also changed so much from, like, the girl in the first week? She was very crazy. Huda Mustafa energy.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And she's very calm now.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But is it just the quiet in the eye of the storm? There was a period where, like, Huda got quiet after the big storm, like, and she went to Casa and she partnered with Chris and we forgot about her for a second.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And then it blew up again. So I. I'm reserving judgment, but I agree she's definitely been a little more tame. But still, her reactions are so big.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

You know, someone when one of the girls, like, well, she wasn't there for this, but, like, true. And Trinity said she kissed someone and the girls are streaking and it's like, hater. What do you mean? You're shrieking that she kissed him. She just sat on his face at the challenge.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No kidding. No wonder your voice is hoarse. You are always screaming.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, wait, Over a kiss when, like, literally, I think someone might have given a live blowjob job at the challenge.

[Jacqueline Foley]

They actually had to cut a lot of stuff.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. They cut away from Corman and Parmita. Like, I think he went down on her on television. Like, I don't know. Like, because what's stopping them from having.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah, it's kind of like last season with Huda and Ace.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, if one of them pulled down the pans and started giving a blow job, like, would they win the challenge?

[Jacqueline Foley]

Probably. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So, like, that's what's next, really, to ev. Like, we are going to every base. We are rounding third.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe next season we'll be at the live orgy. Like, seriously, someone will get up there and have sex. Because that's exact. That's what they're doing now.

[Jacqueline Foley]

We almost wrapped up the entire Love island recap without bringing up Jen

[Jackson Claude]

and God, like, very queued off.

[Jacqueline Foley]

There's no one else there for either of them. So it's sort of like they. They need each other and they like each other.

[Jackson Claude]

She chose him out of the 12 guys. Like, that was her pick for her. She likes him. He's her type. I think it's great.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Great.

[Jackson Claude]

They have, like, actual conversation about, like, you know, nonsense, which is what people talk about.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Just do here.

[Jackson Claude]

Like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

No.

[Jackson Claude]

And that's what you do in life. Like, what do you like to do? What do you like to do? Like, just. They talk instead of just always talking about, like, what. The fact that they're talking. That's what everybody else does. It's like.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Like, well, we're talking about our conversations.

[Jackson Claude]

We're talking about the fact that we're having a conversation. Whereas let's just have a conversation.

[Jacqueline Foley]

How do you feel our conversations are going?

[Jackson Claude]

Are you open to having a conversation? Are you open to having more conversations?

[Jacqueline Foley]

This is a classic one. I really like our conversations, and I

[Jackson Claude]

want to have more chats.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Of course.

[Jackson Claude]

Put me for a chat, and I'm open to having more chats.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And cutest.

[Jackson Claude]

Where the chats go.

[Jacqueline Foley]

The cutest bombshell is Ronnie, and no one's giving him the time of day. He had one conversation with Melanie, but I don't think it was sort of sad.

[Jackson Claude]

Slip through because he was there for Melanie, but then Melly, Melanie swore for Corey.

[Jacqueline Foley]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And that's that on that.

[Jacqueline Foley]

And it's crazy. Like, Corey was the one who made out with Trinity and now is with Melanie when, like, I wouldn't have picked him dead last. Like, it's just so funny how like people's tastes.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jacqueline Foley]

You know. Well, that's our show.

[Jackson Claude]

It is.

[Jacqueline Foley]

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[Jackson Claude]

Love ya. Bye.

[Jacqueline Foley]

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