Brianna, Grace and Terri Schuester: Thursday, December 12th, 2024

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – Episode: "Brianna, Grace and Terri Schuester"

Hosts: Jackie Oshry and Claudia Oshry
Release Date: December 12, 2024

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Introduction

In this poignant and engaging episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry delve into a mix of personal anecdotes, current pop culture news, and the intricacies of maintaining personal relationships amidst public scrutiny. Despite the bittersweet tone of nearing the year's end, the hosts aim to deliver an insightful and heartfelt episode, promising their best content for listeners.

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Personal Reflections and Updates

Claudia's Emotional Podcast Experience

Claudia shares her recent experience recording a podcast with Jay Shetty, describing it as "literally like therapy" ([01:13]). During the session, she became highly emotional, struggling to answer questions about grief and her favorite memories with her father. Claudia admits, “I’m actually embarrassed at how much I cried” ([01:20]), highlighting her vulnerability during the recording. Her emotional ordeal underscores the challenges of opening up publicly about deeply personal topics, even when surrounded by supportive relationships.

Pregnancy Struggles and Body Image

Claudia updates listeners on her pregnancy journey, expressing frustration over not having a visible baby bump. She states, “There's no better place to get into the seasonal spirit than Jenny Kane” ([12:58]), emphasizing the personal nature of pregnancy beyond superficial topics. Claudia candidly discusses societal expectations and the internal battle of feeling puffy and uncomfortable without a noticeable bump, revealing the emotional toll it takes on her self-esteem.

Jackie complements Claudia’s update by sharing her own pregnancy experiences, reminiscing about her past pregnancies and the heightened medical attention she received. She reflects on the constant monitoring and the emotional weight of not feeling the baby move, adding depth to their shared experiences ([10:13]-[12:58]).

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Key News Stories

1. Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco Engagement

Jackie and Claudia react to the surprising announcement of Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco’s engagement. Selena shared the news on Instagram with heartfelt photos, captioning it, “Forever begins now” ([26:17]). The hosts discuss the implications for fans, particularly those who supported the "Jelena" pairing (Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez). Jackie remarks, “If she becomes a happily married woman, then it’s so dis… not that it wasn’t already disrespectful to Haley and Justin” ([27:03]).

Claudia ponders the future of fan dynamics, questioning the impact on longstanding fan bases and the authenticity of celebrity relationships. They both express hope that Selena and Benny’s relationship will be genuine, contrasting it with past Hollywood engagements that didn’t stand the test of time ([29:22]-[32:16]).

2. Podcast Drama: Brianna Chicken Fry and Grace

The hosts dive deep into the tumultuous relationship between Brianna Chicken Fry and her best friend Grace, centered around their podcast Plan Bri. Initially successful, the duo faced backlash when Brianna began dating Zach, leading to rumors of isolation and strained friendships ([33:19]-[37:09]).

Claudia explains that fans sided with Grace when the podcast went on hiatus and Brianna seemingly distanced herself. However, recent revelations suggest that Zach may have been a negative influence, pushing a wedge between the friends. Jackie adds, “It was Zach. And now that he’s gone, they’ll come back together because he was keeping them apart” ([37:09]).

The conflict peaked when Grace released a statement feeling blindsided by Brianna’s attempts to revive the podcast without her, leading to public fallout. Jackie and Claudia empathize with both sides, urging listeners to understand the complexities of their friendship and the impact of online narratives ([38:24]-[55:25]).

3. Shawn Mendes Addresses Love Triangle with Sabrina Carpenter and Camila Cabello

In a surprising move, Shawn Mendes addresses the rumored love triangle involving Sabrina Carpenter and Camila Cabello during an interview on John Mayer's Sirius XM show. Mendes reflects, “The biggest lesson I learned in life is no one gets out of this life without getting hurt” ([56:17]-[57:37]). Jackie and Claudia analyze his comments, connecting them to past relationships and the emotional turmoil celebrities face.

Claudia criticizes Mendes for not directly addressing the specifics, stating, “He should not be going to see an ex, period” ([56:33]). The hosts explore how such dynamics are portrayed in music and media, using Mendes’s lyrics as examples of personal storytelling through art ([57:54]-[61:24]).

4. Austin Butler Cast as Patrick Bateman in "American Psycho" Remake

The announcement that Austin Butler will portray Patrick Bateman in Luca Guadagnino’s new adaptation of American Psycho sparks significant discussion. Jackie highlights Butler’s previous role as Elvis Presley, questioning whether this casting choice aligns with his career trajectory: “I’m not knocking his talent, I’m actually knocking him as a worse sense” ([67:10]-[72:17]).

Claudia expresses skepticism about Butler’s fit for the role, suggesting that he may not bring the necessary depth to such a complex character. The hosts debate the potential success of the remake, comparing it to previous adaptations and questioning whether Butler can break free from typecasting ([75:37]-[77:17]).

5. "Friday Night Lights" Reboot on Peacock

Jackie and Claudia share excitement over the upcoming reboot of Friday Night Lights on Peacock, set to premiere thirteen years after the original series finale. They discuss the potential of the reboot to capture the heartfelt essence of the original series while introducing fresh talent ([73:00]-[77:17]).

Claudia reminisces about the cultural impact of the original show, noting its role in launching numerous successful careers. She expresses hope that the reboot will honor the legacy while appealing to a new generation of viewers, emphasizing the need for authenticity in storytelling ([75:19]-[78:43]).

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Conclusion

This episode of The Toast masterfully balances personal narratives with engaging discussions on contemporary pop culture events. Jackie and Claudia Oshry offer honest reflections on their lives while navigating the complexities of friendships and public perceptions. Their empathetic approach to sensitive topics and insightful analysis of celebrity news make this episode both relatable and informative for listeners.

Notable Quotes:

• Claudia on Emotional Podcast: “I’m actually embarrassed at how much I cried” ([01:20]).
• Jackie on Selena Gomez’s Engagement: “As long as she’s available, Janiners had hope” ([27:03]).
• Claudia on Podcast Drama: “She needs, for her own health, like, she needs to let go” ([52:52]).
• Shawn Mendes on Lessons Learned: “No one gets out of this life without getting hurt” ([56:17]).
• Claudia on Austin Butler’s Casting: “I think he keeps waiting for his big break” ([71:58]).

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Transcript

[A]

Good morning, millennials.

[B]

Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Like, normally, Thursdays have such a great energy, but it is our second to last regular episode of the year. And, like, there is sadness abound.

[A]

There is sadness about. It's very bittersweet to be saying goodbye, but for you guys, it's actually great because I really feel called to give you an amazing episode, you know?

[B]

So true.

[A]

So with the stories and just with everything that I'm bringing to the show today, I'm putting my best foot forward. Not that I ever don't. I just want to say, I don't.

[B]

Know, some days I don't. Like, if I'm being completely honest, it's hard to be, like, your best personality every single day.

[A]

No, it's true. But I don't know, I feel like some days I'm so tired. I just have a lot going on. But I feel like whenever I'm sat in this chair, like, I am putting my best foot forward, nothing else. That we're going through a sleep regression. Unless I decide to share that nothing.

[B]

Else exists besides these four walls.

[A]

These four walls. It's so true.

[B]

I actually didn't even talk to you about this, like, privately, because I've been so busy. Yesterday, I spent the afternoon with Jay Shetty. I recorded his podcast. And, you know, I don't know if you are familiar with his podcast, but it's literally like therapy.

[A]

Yes. Like inner child work.

[B]

Yes, exactly. And like, I, in my current state, like, I'm just really susceptible to, like, crying.

[A]

Emotional.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm actually embarrassed at how much I cried. Like, he actually asked me a question. I. I can't answer that without, like, seriously falling apart. He was like, okay, don't worry, we'll cut it out. I'm like, thank you so much. It wasn't even a particularly titillating question. It was just, can you tell us.

[A]

The question you're talking about grief.

[B]

And he was asking, like, losing a dog, losing a parent, like, just that journey, like, the differences. And he was like, what's your favorite memory with your dad? And I was like, I can't tell you that. Like, sorry, I can't. I literally can't if you want me to keep sitting in the chair. And my coccydenia was acting. It was not a coccydenia. Friendly chair. My asserting me the whole time.

[A]

It's like years worth of therapy. And what, like, never goes to therapy. Does it live on a podcast?

[B]

So I said that I don't want to spoil it was Two hours long. And I was just like, by the way, like, I don't go to therapy. Not that I'm against it at all. I'm just not a person who has trouble communicating. Like, I actually have a lot of people in my life that I open up to about, like, all different parts of myself, and I'm very blessed and I don't feel, like, stifled. And he was like, that's so great. I'm like. But, like, I never talk about this shit that you're talking about. Like, I don't know where you're coming up with these questions. Like, where do you get your confidence from? And not me. Literally starting crying. Like, I literally was crying the entire time. I'm so embarrassed. Like, and it was.

[A]

You're like, Ari and Cynthia. Did you do it with Ben or alone?

[B]

Alone. But Ben had driven me. He was in the car downstairs taking a call. And so I was feeling, like, particularly grateful to Ben for, like, you know, he literally, like, moved his whole day around to drive me to Brooklyn. And then Jay was asking me questions about Ben. And, like, pretty much every time I was asked about Ben, I was hysteric. Like, hysteric. Like, so embarrassing. I am hysterically crying.

[A]

Is that a normal thing that he says happens on his show?

[B]

Well, that's like, his thing, you know, everybody cries.

[A]

Excavator.

[B]

Before we started, I was like, I'm not going to cry. He was like, okay.

[A]

Hey, tears, see you later.

[B]

I don't know if, like, I would have cried not pregnant, but he was also just asking questions about, like, parenthood and, like, Ben as a dad. Like, seriously, it was. It was so messy.

[A]

Like, I don't even know when it's coming out. But is it weird that I would feel weird?

[B]

Like, listening, Jackie, Like, I'm forever begging you. It's not for your family, Jackie. If you listen to it, I will die. Like, seriously, do not listen to it.

[A]

But the whole world should. But, like, not those closest to you. I understand that. Like, it's just. I can't explain it. I feel like I'm always trying to put this into words. I feel like even I can't put it into words. Like, for literally a decade, I've been, like, trying to articulate how sometimes it's easier to share emotional things with people.

[B]

You don't know thousand percent.

[A]

Then with, like, people who know you and are there for and might actually be going through the exact same thing.

[B]

There's like, a weirdness in the. In the intimacy. It's just, like, it's Weird.

[A]

That is so funny. I will not.

[B]

Please don't. Like, seriously, I will die. If you have a question, I'll answer it. But, like, don't. Don't watch. But everybody else should. I don't think it comes out for, like, months, though, so don't get it too excited. It'll be a while. Definitely not this year.

[A]

That's so funny. Well, my episode of the Good Guys dropped today, so that's on my watch list.

[B]

Because I hear you guys, like, literally exclusively talked about me, so I have to listen.

[A]

I actually think whoever told you that is, like, setting you up for disappointment, because we did talk about you a lot. But, like, if you're listening, thinking we talked about you the whole time, you're going to be like, they didn't talk about me at all.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Just so you know.

[B]

Oh, okay. Like, oh.

[A]

Like, literally, if that's why you're listening, like, don't.

[B]

That is why I would be listening.

[A]

Because we talked about you, like, a good amount, but it's not in. It's not the whole episode. So you would just see the glass half full.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And even though I don't want to, like, fudge with the Good Guys numbers, listen to it next week when we're off.

[B]

Wow. Ben is. You're gonna get a call from Ben.

[A]

Okay, wait. I'm gonna get another positive call from them because today's a very exciting day because Spritz Society just announced their new Q Lab flavor.

[B]

This is what we were talking about last week when we said we did a collab at Spritz Society that was made for our sister Olivia. What did I say last week? You tell. That was not five weeks ago.

[A]

No, but it was not last week.

[B]

I feel like actually it was two. Honestly, two and a half, maybe. I think I'm closer than you are.

[A]

V8 spritz. It's a bloody Mary spritz. It's made for our sister OLIVIA, who.

[B]

Literally V8 when we were, like, 6. Like, she was obsessed. She still is. But, like, I can't think of V8 without thinking of Olivia Ashrae.

[A]

No, same. And that's why this is so full circle. Everything that we do, like, ties back to our childhood. I think that's true. Just like, you know, life. But Bloody Mary spray. It's like, we needed this.

[B]

It's a blood. It's literally. It tastes just like a Bloody Mary. Keep in mind, these are a lot less carbonated than our OG Spritz is. It's still, like, a light sparkling, but it's not as carbonated as our usual spritzes, so keep that in mind. And it's our new cans. They're huge. How many ounces are 12 hours huge? I think 12 ounce old ones were like 8 or 9. So this is significantly bigger. And the packaging is so pogi. Yeah. Not us working with V8, owned by Campbell's. Like, we are literally so legit. It's crazy.

[A]

So legit. Get them now. I feel like Bloody Marys are such a great holiday drink around the season. Like, you're hungover. It's just a great vibe. If you have people over for brunch, like, don't be you getting the blender out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Use the Spritz Society VA Bloody Mary.

[B]

It is exclusively being sold at spritz society.com while supplies last and like, that's it. So get them all out there hot.

[A]

Spritz society.com update.

[B]

In my journey of life, I have, as of yesterday, actually found a coffee that doesn't make me hurl. If you guys have been, like, watching my coffee drinking journey, even on the podcast, like, some days I have a coffee, I take one sip. Yesterday, for the first time since conception, I finished a full coffee. Would you like to know the recipe? It's quite crazy.

[A]

Is it from Blank Street?

[B]

No, I just get a cup of ice from the place. They hate me there. I get a cup of ice and half an effort. I don't pay for anything. By the way, Blank street is owned by blackrock. They'll survive. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, it's a front.

[B]

I just want to say I'm so ready to be owned by BlackRock. I feel like BlackRock buys everything. I was just talking to some guy and Ben was like, by the way, you know about his company. I'm like, oh. He's like, blackrock? Are you fucking kidding me? Like, I can't. Okay. I need BlackRock to invest in the Marc Shown Better Holocaust Education Foundation. But, like, okay, so here is my coffee. For a girl who doesn't like coffee but needs it, and especially during pregnancy, like, could die from the taste of coffee. Of course. My Starbucks jug, medium iced coffee, medium roast, unsweetened. Immediately add two packets of Splenda Stevia. I'm telling you, it's a little sweeter. The Splenda Stevia than Stevia or Splenda.

[A]

I've been using Splenda Stevia.

[B]

It's delicious. Two then. Not a crazy. Like a little splash. Half and half. Never really had half and half before. It's delish.

[A]

That's What I use at my house is half and half.

[B]

That's what I use at my house.

[A]

I've been using like I. I'm shocked that you use half and half. That's the most shocking thing you just said. You always are making me baguette like special creamer for you.

[B]

Well, I'm not allowed to have my special creamer.

[A]

Like Chobani creamer.

[B]

I'm having a aversion to Chobani creamer in my pregnancy. It was something I really liked before and now like that and my way hand soap. If I never see either of them again, I will be so happy.

[A]

Understood. Well, I'm on my Nespresso grind. Whenever I'm sat for the show.

[B]

You're on your hot coffee grind, which is so crazy because you live in Florida.

[A]

I know. Well, the place that I used to like to get my iced coffee jugs from. They. They close their Floridian location. So I turn back to my Nespresso machine. That's really always there for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're back at it. They're so caffeinated. I drink two cups a day, so I'm cracked out for you guys.

[B]

We love Cracky O. What do we want?

[A]

Is my. And who makes this cup? I feel like Reese Witherspoon in Sweet Home Alabama. Who makes this glass?

[B]

Is it Amazon? No, the ones that everybody has from Amazon.

[A]

No, it's. I only have like two of them.

[B]

You're gonna spill.

[A]

Be careful, villain. Bach, please.

[B]

Oh, my God. I can't with you. You're so fancy. You're literally Heather Dubrow, Amazon, Villeroy and Bog.

[A]

So that's having coffee with my swirly this morning. Cheers. Marty, can we try and do a cheers? Yeah, that's easier.

[B]

Three. One, two, one.

[A]

Cheers.

[B]

I'm going to the doctor today. I haven't been to the doctor in forever. And let me tell you something. So we are not going to the doctor. Like, I'm just supposed to believe there's a bit and I have a bump, you know, so I'm just supposed to believe there's a baby in my belly.

[A]

So bump.

[B]

Watch.

[A]

Like, do you sense a bump at all?

[B]

Oh, yeah. First of all, my skin is itching me, which means my skin is stretching, like, seriously kill me. And yes, I'm puffy. Like, it's just not like a perfectly round bump, but like there is new diameter.

[A]

You're popping, you're popped a little bit.

[B]

It doesn't look like a conventional bump, if you will. And the weird thing is that because I Go to a high risk doctor even though I'm not a high risk. God, you know, knock wood, knock wood, knock wood. Not a high risk patient. But I just love Dr. Fox. I think I get seen more than the average person. Like, I. I have double the amount of scans that most people do. Also, with the cervix drama, I will be getting more scans and it still feels so weird. Like, the last time I went to the doctor was like, three or four weeks ago. And it's just like, because I don't have a bump and I'm starting to feel a little bit better, obviously. Like, I'm like, are we sure?

[A]

Yeah, no, that is.

[B]

I guess I would get my period. But, like, are we sure? Like, how do we know for sure?

[A]

Obviously, my second pregnancy, I was at the doctor. There was one week where I was at the doctor every single day. Like, I was getting so much information, scans, images. But even my first pregnancy, weirdly, I had, like, elevated alpha feta protein. Like, a little bit elevated. So they saw me more throughout my pregnancy. I think I got images once a month. And people don't. You literally only get images, like, if you have a standard pregnancy, like, maybe two or three images the entire time.

[B]

And I don't know. And so I know that people buy that machine where you can, like, hear baby's heartbeat. My friends, when I was, like, talking to them about it, I'm like, I feel so weird. Like, how do I know that, like, I'm pregnant and I'm like, I think I'm getting that machine, that I don't do it. First of all, don't do it. A lot of times it just doesn't pick up the heartbeat. So you take yourself to the emergency room because of the stupid machine from Amazon.

[A]

Claudia, say no more. Don't do it.

[B]

And then sometimes you hear your own heartbeat.

[A]

Oh, well, that's nice.

[B]

So, yeah, but like, you think it's the babies and it's not. And so it's beating really fast. And so, like, I'm not getting it, but I just think it's like a weird part of pregnancy that you can't, like, check on the baby unless you.

[A]

Go to the doctor or unless something feels wrong. That's why you really have to listen to your body.

[B]

Yeah, it's so true. I'm not good at that because, like, I always feel like, you know.

[A]

Yeah, but in this case, that's working in your favor. If you feel like it's going, it's going.

[B]

There are, like, a couple of things that people Say to pregnant people that really piss me off.

[A]

No, no, I, I wasn't saying that by saying like.

[B]

But it's a good conversation. Sorry, I'm not attacking you. And that has to be one of like the top three. Ugh, I feel like shit. Well, that's good.

[A]

Well, no, I actually was just talking to someone who said that in earnest and she was like, when someone told me that, it made me feel so much better. Like, the worse you feel, the more it means baby sucking more from you. That's baby is getting.

[B]

I get it. And like, I get it. It's annoying to say also. What's annoying? Like, if I'm complaining about an ailment, just wait. Okay?

[A]

No, I don't even feel the. Just wait. Because yes, things get. Certain things get harder, but other things go away. The pain and discomfort changes. It morphs, it doesn't grow. It just. It's a different experience.

[B]

Oh man. And you know what's so funny? I actually remember when Olivia got pregnant for the first time, my mother in law, like passed on a piece of advice to me, to Olivia from me. And I remember thinking, I'm like, that's kind of harsh. Honestly, let me tell you, she was so right. She's like, people are going to come up to you and tell you about their experience and you need to just touch them on the shoulder and say, I don't care. Like, like when people. When I. I don't give a. Like, seriously, I don't give the tiniest little shit of a. Like, I don't care. And she was so right for that. Like, please do not share with me, like, what you went through. Like, I'm dealing with a lot and I can't take on your shit right now.

[A]

Pregnancy is more personal than comedy, more personal than food, more personal than poetry.

[B]

So true.

[A]

So there's your little update from la tarte bump date.

[B]

Even though I don't have one, I'm so ready for my bump. Like, because if I steal one more seat from like an elderly person without like a proper bump, I'm gonna start getting attacked. Like, for real. I also feel like when I'm crossing the street and stuff, people aren't being extra careful with me because I'm not like so visibly pregnant. I just look like a chubby girl and I need them to like start treating me with a little bit more 10. Like I got honked in the street yesterday. Like, right up front I'm like, I'm literally fucking pregnant. Like, my, my baby can hear that.

[A]

Move, bitch. Get out the way.

[B]

I'm about to, like, Terry Schuster this shit and put on a fake bump just so I get a little bit of, like, Grace.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Nobody don't talk about the struggle of being pregnant without a bump. Like, if you're like, it's just a chubby girl who carries weight, like, her whole life. I'm not gonna have a bump for, like, eight months.

[A]

I think it's a Terry Schuster situation.

[B]

Sometimes you got a Terry Schuster slash Brevan to camp it up.

[A]

Slash. I'm not saying it.

[B]

Beyonce. That's one of my absolute favorite conspiracy theories. There's probably the first conspiracy, like, celebrity conspiracy theory I, like, got into. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Because of all the stuff that's happening with Jay Z. Like, all the theories are coming out of the woodwork. So I recently, like, just this week, saw that clip of her doing that interview where the belly.

[B]

The belly flipped. It's. You know, I'm going to show to Dr. Fox today and ask him, like.

[A]

If it's possible, can you record his reaction? Even though what he will say is, anything is possible. Everybody's different. Everybody is different. And that is the truth. And like, anything, it could be, like.

[B]

A real belly, but, like, also it could be Styrofoam.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

That was such a crazy time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And what else is going on with you? I'ma stick with you forever.

[A]

I am working so hard on my project, on my personal project, which you guys will see next week on patreon.com toast. I literally, like, am up all night on my computer. Like, my eyes are going to just fall off from all of the scrolling that I'm doing. But I'm in such a good place. And I need to shout out one of our sponsors. I don't know if they're a sponsor today. Wayfair, you've got just what I need. I know. I don't even know why I go to other websites. I know to start in earnest. It always comes back to Wayfair. Like, their delivery is insane. The selection, like, oh, this one's not deep enough. I need a five more inches. Wayfairs.

[B]

Yeah, it's a.

[A]

It's an. It's a marvel. We talk about Amazon a lot and Amazon, but Wayfair is in that category of doing the impossible.

[B]

You just took the words right out of my mouth. Wayfair is the Amazon of the furniture space. Their shipping is fucking crazy. My nightstands are here, and I need nightstands. They also have amazing customer service.

[A]

They do. Oh, my gosh. Remember what happened with my outdoor patio furniture. So I ordered a circular couch.

[B]

You're like, two years ago, when I.

[A]

First moved down here, I ordered a round couch for my patio and instead they accidentally sent me two armchairs from the same collection, but they were armchairs and that's not what I ordered. So they, I called them. They then got my couch on the truck and they said, and you know what? And you could keep the armchair. Armchairs, it's like our gift to you.

[B]

Like, and they are the best armchairs.

[A]

And now I have the whole set. And it's amazing.

[B]

I actually know that story. And every time I order from Wayfair, I like secretly hope that they fuck up and let me keep whatever they send and then also send me what I ordered.

[A]

You know what else I've been leaning on a lot And I just want to thank my fellow comrades in Wayfair. Are the reviews like the people who post reviews with photos? You are the unsung heroes of our country. And I hope that Wayfair, like, they, I'm sure they incentivize you to leave a review. Maybe you get a credit or something. Because I've never done it, but I use it all the time.

[B]

So I've actually been noticing that a lot on Amazon. So because I especially like in my maternity era, my outfit right now is completely from Amazon.

[A]

I was going to ask you. I love your outfit.

[B]

It is from Amazon. It is so comfortable. I'll post a link and affiliate. They have tons of reviews for like popular items with photos. I actually think that it's people's jobs too because they're like creating premium content with these review photos. I think Amazon pays people to create reviews of their items. Just like in a bedroom. It's like a mom of four. Like it's not a model. It's so fucking helpful. Like the amount of stuff that I have with furniture too on Amazon, they crush it.

[A]

They crush it. So I'm just so thankful to the people who leave reviews. So much so that I kind of like, I want to give back maybe I know review one day to let.

[B]

People know because there are certain unsung heroes like of our society, like those who put back the grocery carts from the parking lot like that we don't think of every day. And people who leave photo detailed reviews of furniture and clothing on Amazon and Wayfair and websites of that nature are a part of those unsung heroes. They're literally. What did we call them during COVID Like truck drivers.

[A]

Essential workers.

[B]

Essential workers.

[A]

And I Think. I don't know if Wayfair does this, but they should do an incentivization program where they give you a credit. Because those reviews certainly are helping me make purchases and not, like, dilly dally for too long, though. And even if it's not, like, perfect, you know, oh, the canopy is a little short for anyone under 5 7. I'm like, okay, I'm 5 1.

[B]

Yeah. And that's the other thing. Like, I feel like reviews in general online, like, get a better app, like, when it comes to restaurants and stuff. Like, I never take it seriously because only people who had a negative experience will leave a review. But I feel like now we're taking the power back of reviews. Like, Yelp, to me, is such a useless platform because it's only for complainers, whereas individual item reviews are so detailed and they're not really coming in with a. An agenda.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I feel like reviews are now, for me, like, at a place in culture where they're helping people. And for many years they weren't.

[A]

I agree. As they should. What they were meant to do, you know, they're doing what they were meant to do.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

And you love to see that. So that's sort of where I've been at also.

[B]

I've been shopping so much. Amazon, they have, like, amazing maternity shops. Like the. The maternity websites that you shop from. Like Bumpsuit and like, Hatch, they have shops on Amazon and you get prime shipping. I just sent a bunch of stuff to your house. Yeah. I got a pair of suit white hatch. I got. I got a pair of white trousers, so you bet. Better watch the out this season. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, no, I think that's where really the only two places I had shopped from was, like, bum suit and Hatch for maternity wear. Like a bumpsuit and then a hatch cardigan. Done.

[B]

I don't have a bunch of bumpsuit yet, but I have been dipping my toe into maternity wear and I just slept in a pair of Hatch maternity pajamas that have like. Like it goes up to your boob, you know, like that belly band. And of course, I don't have a bump, but I loved it.

[A]

I used to get maternity pajamas from the Gap.

[B]

Oh, I'll check that out. I'll check that out.

[A]

Yeah. And then eventually I just switched to a nightgown. You. No waistband?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not doing the waistband.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I'm like, a couple of weeks away from just sleeping in one of Ben's, like, T shirts. I can't keep buying stuff that too. Waistbands are the enemy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I actually took a pair of scissors to expensive pajamas to cut out the waistband, only to find that it was completely sewn in and I had to, like, I destroyed the pants for nothing. I should have cut.

[A]

Cut a slit. I cut a slit in a couple things.

[B]

Yeah. It's just this very Project Runway over at my house.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. What else? Why you need, like, just nap dresses?

[B]

Yeah. How's. How are the stories today?

[A]

Oh, my God, there are so many stories today. There's like three big stories and then the rest are kind of interchangeable and some will probably get pushed till tomorrow, I think. Fifth and final, I'm going to do a choose your own adventure. Turdy.

[B]

I love being given a choice like that. To me, I. So exciting.

[A]

Especially because we're not rushed today. No dear toasters, no recap.

[B]

It's just no.

[A]

No segments. So the stories are going to get a lot. So a O s, A o s.

[B]

All of substance, a lot of stories. I kind of like what mine said more.

[A]

I agree. Without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you Turt.

[B]

What can I say except you're welcome.

[A]

Also before we get into the stories, just wanted to mention that time person of the year has dropped and it is Trump after all. So we share the short earlier this week we gave our predictions. I think you know it also got.

[B]

Leaked yesterday which I feel like it doesn't get leaked out like it's always a surprise.

[A]

It did get leaked I think like time really had their progress in a twist because they really like think that they're so iron they take themselves so they're under lock and key.

[B]

But it photo that was released wasn't the photo they ended up using but.

[A]

The person the photo was from. 2016 I believe. Oh that was confusing. I saw it too and I Thought that was, like, this year. Damn. But no, I think it was just 2016.

[B]

Got it. Got it.

[A]

And then this morning, the COVID dropped and an interview, and he's the person of the year. As he should be. As he was the person of the Year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's that on that. Are you ready for our first story? Actually, shocking news that I didn't learn until I opened my iPad.

[B]

What?

[A]

Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco are engaged after dating for over a year. Selena and Benny are engaged. She announced on Instagram Wednesday night. Forever begins now. She captioned a carousel. A photo showing off her diamond ring ring. One picture captured her beaming while sitting on a picnic blanket, happily staring at her ring. In another, she and him are cuddled up for a sweet embrace.

[B]

I do, of course, wonder what this means for those last remaining Jelena stands.

[A]

Because I feel like, can they disperse now?

[B]

Right. Like, Jelena has never been a remote possibility. Right. He's literally married. But I feel like Selena was, like, kind of like, not that she championed the Jelena movement, but, like, she was still. It was kind of possible because of her.

[A]

Yeah. For as long as she's available, Like, Janiners had hope, but if she becomes, like, a happily married woman, then it's so dis. Not that it wasn't already disrespectful to Haley and Justin, but it seemed to care about that it would be, like, so disrespectful of her. And there's. They're her fans. So, like, what, you're going to invalidate her marriage by saying she should be with Justin? Your wires are getting crossed.

[B]

So I do wonder about all the people whose usernames are literally Jelena, Stan807. Like, what this means for them and their usernames. So that was my first thought, but maybe that's because I'm so toxic.

[A]

That's so funny. I. I did not have that thought whatsoever. I was kind of surprised by this. Even though.

[B]

Even though it's like, yeah, the. The timeline is totally fine.

[A]

Yeah. In, like, you know, normal, traditional, like. And, you know, she's like, my age, I think. So again, I had a friend that was dating someone for over a year. Seriously. And they got engaged. Like, oh, that's beautiful. So.

[B]

And how would you feel if your father was dating someone your age?

[A]

That would be different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know that I would say that's beautiful. I think I might say screw sisterhood, but I might.

[B]

And I thought it was you walking through the front door.

[A]

So regardless, this is a little bit Surprising. I also feel like celebrities take their time with stuff. They. They're not, like, the first to get engaged. Also, marriage in, like, California and with celebrities and all that money is just, like, a weird institution.

[B]

I thought you meant, like, that they. It seemed like they shared it the day that it happened. I thought you were gonna say celebrities take their time. Like with Hailey Seinfeld, she waited a whole week, and then she said, look, we got engaged last weekend.

[A]

Oh, no. I just meant, like, we're always shocked when they do things in a traditional timeline.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So the fact that this was traditional, airing on the side of. Of quick was surprising to me. I wasn't, like, on.

[B]

But if this was your friend, you wouldn't think it was weird.

[A]

Not at all.

[B]

No. No.

[A]

I think this is, like, a beautiful, normal relationship.

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

That's what's surprising is a beautiful, healthy relationship in Hollywood.

[B]

This is in a relationship that I particularly like champion or really understand. It does feel like kind of random to me. But I do think that they are well suited for one another, and I think that they have potential. And it's not like Selena Gomez actually is not. She's not, like, always dating a million people. She's never been engaged before. She's not one of those celebrities who, like, kind of takes relationships and specifically, like, engagements for nothing, you know, she's never been engaged before where I feel a lot of her compatriots have been engaged a couple of times. So does this mean they'll actually make it down the aisle in celebrity world? No, but I don't know. She's kind of a serious girl when it comes to relationships, so I feel like maybe.

[A]

Yeah, that was going to be my next question. Like, do you think that they will get married?

[B]

This happens all the time. Like, just because a young Hollywood thing gets engaged, like, does not mean she's getting married. It's. It's a piece of jewelry. But these two feel different to me. Like, he doesn't have a million girlfriends. She doesn't have a million boyfriends. They haven't been engaged multiple times. Like, I don't know. I kind of feel like they might.

[A]

Yeah. Do you know what popped into my head yesterday that now is coming back into my head, but it came into my head before this, so I don't want it to, like, invalidate this. But remember when Demi Lovato was engaged to that guy Jackie?

[B]

Of course. That's what I was thinking of when I said that. Like, how like. Like, young Hollywood things, like, get engaged.

[A]

Like, for jewelry yeah, but, like, he turned out to be just, like, such a loser. Grifter.

[B]

Loser. She was literally actual con mendeled.

[A]

He should be American greed. And I don't. I. I just want to say for some reason, I thought of him yesterday. Not after the Selena news drop, but now I'm thinking about him again. But obviously Benny Blanco is not that.

[B]

No.

[A]

Sometimes celebrities, like, get engaged and, like, who doesn't want to feel, like, loved and proposed to.

[B]

Right, Right. The. The odd thing. Not odd, but Betty Blanco also does have, like, a working and personal relationship with Justin Bieber. Now, I'm sorry to keep bringing them into this because I'm so toxic like that, but they, like. Some of the biggest hits from Justin are Benny songs. Some of the biggest hits in the world are Benny songs from back in the day. Like, no. Okay. Benny Blanco, Justin Bieber songs. Lonely I Feel like is their song.

[A]

When did that come out?

[B]

In 2020.

[A]

Okay. I don't know. At a certain point, everyone works together. You know, Earth.

[B]

I don't know that song. And Cold Water.

[A]

Cold Water sounds familiar.

[B]

Like, would I. Under different circumstances, like, Justin might be invited to Benny Blanco's wedding. Not his wedding to Selena Gomez, but yeah.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

I think it's nice. And obviously, like, all the celebs were commenting on her post Taylor saying, I want to be the flower girl. So it seems, like, legit. I don't know why. It's just like, these two exist in, like, a universe not of my own. Do you know what I mean? I don't think about them a lot, but I do think they might end up making it down the aisle.

[A]

I hope that they do. I hope that they do, too. I hope that they do. And so for now, I don't know why we keep talking about it, like, it's, like, not happening. Because that's like.

[B]

Because that's just like a Hollywood thing.

[A]

Like. Yeah. It's such a pessimistic outlook. I don't know where it's coming from, but this is what. This is what it's all about, folks. Love. Love is the ring.

[B]

The ring is thing.

[A]

You know, the ring is beautiful.

[B]

Yes. What shape is that? Diamond? Is that a marquee?

[A]

It's a diamond shape.

[B]

Like, it's a. I'm pretty sure it's a marquee. That's what it's called.

[A]

But it looks like a die, you know, like the shape of a diamond. Right? A stone.

[B]

Yes, it's a marquee. The weird thing is that, like, when a. Like, no matter. Everybody has their own, like, diamond shapes that they like, but at a certain size, like, they're all beautiful. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like, I think, like, I happen to think probably when I was getting engaged, like, Marquee would have been last on my list. Selena's big ass marquee. I'll take it.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's very, very. He did, as they say, and I.

[B]

Hate this phrase, you did good. You did good.

[A]

But he did do well. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah.

[B]

It's also incredibly incorrect grammatically. He did good.

[A]

He did good.

[B]

He did well.

[A]

Our next story is some podcasting drama that's been bubbling for weeks that has now hit a fever pitch because Brianna Chicken Fry is back in the news. BFFs is back as a drama podcast because Brie and the gang are addressing what's going on with Plan Bri, her other podcast that she was doing with her best friend Grace. So if you've been following, like, Zach and Brie and Dave and Josh and the gang, like, then you know this.

[B]

And Grace, if you.

[A]

If you haven't, like, we're not speaking English, I just want to say, like, yeah, okay.

[B]

I'll give, like, a little bit of backstory for the grands. So the chicken fry got. Brianna Chicken Fry got signed to Barstool a couple of years ago, and she brought with her a podcast that she had started in her college dorm room called Plan Brie. It's obviously a play on Plan B and her name, Brie and Brianna. She. The podcast, like, was doing well. It was a bunch of different. I wouldn't categorize it as one particular thing. It was just like a show by her and her interests. And at some point when she started to do really well at Barstool, she started to do bff. She was becoming more well known. She brought her friend Bri from home. This is, excuse me, Grace. This is her best friend from childhood.

[A]

Friend since they were 10.

[B]

She asked if she wanted to, A, move to New York with her and B, like, try to get her a job at Barstool. They would, like, bring her into the office, bring her on Plan Brie. And it actually, I remember watching it happen very organically. Like, she would come on one at a time, and then people in the office started to like her and asked her to come on this podcast. And she ended up getting a job, like a salaried job at Barstool through Brianna and ended up being like, the full time co host of the Plan Brie Show. The Plan Brie had went through, like, a bunch of different iterations, but then it ended up being like a swirly show with two best friend swirlies and the Internet, like, Grace very quickly gained an audience of her own. She's super different from Brianna. She's very self deprecating. Her. Her goal has always been comedy. She loves, you know, stand up. And so they're actually quite different, but they're best friends who always really complimented each other. And then when Brianna started dating Zach, there was clearly, like a separation between the two. Now anyone who gets into a serious relationship, like, you are gonna change your relationship with your best friend. But now, of course, knowing what we know and what abusers do, he was clearly trying to isolate Brianna. So her not being spotted around with Grace like she used to be, and they were like, you know, typical young 20 best friends, sleepovers all the time to then nothing. People started to be suspicious because they.

[A]

Were still doing their podcast together. And I remember, okay, but they were doing it.

[B]

But, like, Grace moved to New York and like, literally Brianna left New York and she was doing it remotely and she was building a studio in Massachusetts. Like, the space between them was widening.

[A]

Yes, was widening. I feel like we talked about it on the show because there was conversations, like, on the Internet maybe a year ago at this point about how, like, Brianna, like, left her friend Grace because she got a boyfriend. And we were just saying, like, that's kind of what happens sometimes in, in serious relationships. So there have been, like, conversations about their friendship on the Internet for a.

[B]

Long time and the general consensus. And when Brianna started dating Zach, like, the Internet just, like, hated her. And so really, people took up for Grace. And Grace is like, not of. You know, she's never been. Grace doesn't have any drama, doesn't. There's no, no reason for somebody on the Internet not to like Grace. Right? She's ever done anything. Whereas Brianna, like, because you're an Internet personality of a bigger size and you've been doing it for longer, you have scandals, you have cancellation. So people have reasons that they think that they should hate you, right? So when Brianna started dating Zach, she automatically got this, like, huge target on her back. People hated her for a million different things, mostly because they were jealous. But then when it came to the Grace stuff, like, the fans of the show, like, really took Grace's side because it appeared as though, like, Briana, you know, got a boyfriend and never talked to her best friend again. She thinks she's too good for the podcast. She's moving out of New York. She thinks she's too good for Grace and she's leaving Grace behind. And when the news came out about Bri and Zach, I think everybody was like, okay, well, this is obviously way more complex than we thought. And maybe the Breanna Grace thing is, like, not really what we thought it was. And. And they weren't sharing a lot of their friendship because Grace couldn't really share what her friend was going through. So, like, people were like, okay, we've had. We actually have it all wrong.

[A]

Yeah. And it wasn't like Brianna coming between their friendship. It was really like, Zach. And now that he's gone, they'll come back together because he was keeping them apart. And it all. It all looked like it made sense.

[B]

Except that Plan Breathe, the podcast, hasn't returned since October, so people were like, well, no, I think there is something going on between those two. And for as long as people have thought there's something going on between them, they both have individually maintained mostly Brianna, like, when asked, like, it's all good.

[A]

Yeah. And Grace hadn't said anything. We even were talking about a few weeks ago how, like, there was rumors that people thought maybe she signed the NDA and took money to not share the video from what had happened. But not good, not bad. She didn't say anything in all this time that Brianna has been the headline story, her best friend. She wasn't speaking on the situation. So we're like. I thought that was maybe, like, out of respect sort of thing. It's like, what can you say? And it's not. It's Brianna's telling her story, then Grace.

[B]

We literally. It's not about Grace right now. It's about Briana.

[A]

After Brianna had shared her story, then, like, Grace would come in supplementally share her as I'm gonna happen.

[B]

So then last week, I guess when Spotify wrapped came out, Brianna shared that, like, somebody tagged her in, like, Plan Bri was my number one show of the year. And she was like, oh, you know, I'm really trying to figure out a way to get Plan Brie back to bring it back in in some capacity.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I guess that set Grace off. And for the first time ever, Grace has spoken out.

[A]

She released a three slide slide statement.

[B]

Basically saying that, like, they have known for a while that the show is ending. And for the last couple of months, they've been working out on a way to tell people whether that's a video together, a statement. They haven't been able to, like, fully come to agreement on how they want to announce it. But Grace felt like Briana posting that Spotify wrapped thing was like the biggest slap in the face. Like, blindsided her. And she was like, well, now I'm speaking my truth. And she released that three side statement being like, yeah, the show's not coming back. We've known for a while and I had no idea that Brianna was like, working on bringing it back without me.

[A]

Right. And also, while also being like, I've never posted statement like this. I never want to post a statement like this. Like, it kills me that I'm even writing something like this. I feel so awkward. Like, very much like couching everything by like, be like, not like this was her last resort that she had to post.

[B]

She was pushed to this point.

[A]

Right. So she posted that and it's like, so right now we're thinking like, oh, they decided not to do plan Bri, but Brianna is going to bring it back without Grace.

[B]

Like, right.

[A]

Stab in the back.

[B]

So then finally they did a whole BFFs pod about it yesterday. I watched it where this morning they did like 15 minutes at the end of the episode. Dave literally was like, just say what you have to say. Brianna got really emotional and she had a couple of key points, but she overall said that there has definitely been a fracture in their relationship, like, for as long as people have assumed. And for Briana and you know, it's hard for me to only hear one side of someone's story because I always take that person's side. Like, you've given me no other.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. And I really do believe Brianna. And people hated Brianna's response. They think she's the devil. They think her ego's out of control. It's. It's Grace's statement. The fans already have been on Grace's side.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Grace's three slide statement incentivize them even more. And then when Brianna releases episode, like, people are not buying anything she's saying. But I do think she raised a couple of valid points.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

The first was reminding people that Plan Bri was started by her in her college dorm. And if the show worked out with Grace, great. If it didn't, like it is her show to continue on without. Like, a lot of people are comparing it to call her daddy. Right. They started it together. Totally different. This is a show that existed before Grace. And so she reminded people of that. And I think that, like, people didn't like her saying that, but it is an important fact.

[A]

But also what she said was when she said, we're bringing it back in some capacity. She was going to bring on new hosts and so that the fans could still have, like, a plan. Brie, which was very much like a college show, like, she was going to, like, reboot it with new people. She wasn't, like, doing it now alone, without Grace and kicking Grace to the curb. So great. Grace kind of like, jumped the gun on thinking that. But then Bri also said, but if I wanted to be on it, like, I can do that. It was my show, right?

[B]

So I think a lot of people heard their takeaway from Brianna's interview was, like, she sounded really egotistical. But because saying that, like, it's my show. Well, you know what? It is, and that's an important fact. And I think another thing she said that really rubbed people the wrong way was that, like, listen, I brought Grace into all this. Like, I was on the up and up. I was having this. I wanted to work at barstool. I wanted to work in media. I started this podcast. I started to take off, and I brought Grace into it. I let her stay with me. Like, I got her the job. I've been so such a champion of her. So people think that, like, because Grace's, you know, career started to take off and, like, Brianna couldn't handle it. No, that was actually by design. And so people think she, like, sounded like a bitch. On the podcast. She didn't say, like, I invented Grace, but she said, like, how you guys can think that is so crazy. I have seen in her what you all see in her since we're kids. And, like, I brought it, like, you know, how hard it is to get recognized in media and, like, to bring on your best friend on the up. She wasn't even at a level yet where she could just, like, you know, do favors for her friends. She brought her friend in at the ground level, and people did not like the way that she sounded. But I totally understood what she said. She was like, you guys think I'm this sort of, like, devilish jealous monster, but, like, it was. It was me. I brought her in. Like, I agree with you.

[A]

I didn't even realize that's how people heard it. But no, what she was saying was you. I couldn't be jealous of her success. This is what I wanted for her from the beginning. And here, and just, like, she's telling these anecdotes to prove how she did or tried to do that for her.

[B]

Yes, the. The biggest thing she said that people had the biggest issue with, too, because I was reading the comments and Everyone hated everything she said. The biggest thing was that, like, the Internet has played such a big part in their friendship and the pitting of two women against each other, like, it actually created division between them. Because how Brianna feels is that Grace just sort of, like, let the Internet take her side, prop her up, beat down Brianna without ever, like, speaking out and defending her. That was her biggest gripe with Grace is that when people started to pit them against one another, Grace never said stop. Grace never said, guys, Brianna's a good friend. Like, and she just sort of let people pile on Brianna, especially when Brianna was going through that abusive relationship with Zack, which Grace knew about. So Brianna feels like she knew what I was going through. The Internet was hating me partially because of Zach, partially because of her, and she didn't, like, nothing to stop it. And people were, like, shocked that she said that out loud. Like, that it was so shallow. Like, your friendship isn't your best friends. Has to do with the Internet. And it's really easy for. For people to, like, think it's so stupid. Like, oh, she didn't defend me on the Internet. Like, it sounds trivial. Although when you are going through it, like, somebody standing up for you means a lot, and it can make a difference in the reception perception of you.

[A]

The person who's good in their eyes. I didn't think it was trivial at all. I mean, it's easy for us to put ourselves in their shoes because we do a podcast together. So immediately I was like, if there was this narrative about me for, like, a year that I was this bad person, that we. I was a bad friend, like, and it was affecting some people might. It might not hit the level where it registers that you need to address it, but you could tell it was affecting me. Like, in two seconds, you would be like, leave her alone. That's. And especially when they were doing it in service of you, right?

[B]

To prop me up.

[A]

Right? Like, you're get. Like, it's not even. Like, it's someone else who. Who wouldn't defend you, but it's like they're pitting us against each other. And you're my best friend, and, like, you have the power in their eyes to shine your light on me and that you wouldn't do that not once. And you see how much it's affecting me. You also see that I'm just, like.

[B]

I'm not going through things personally well. Right?

[A]

Like, the. And that she even had to, like, I think she said that she asked Grace to, like, say something, and that Grace never did Like, I understand. I was able to, like, understand and be like, oh, that would. That's upsetting.

[B]

Now it's easy for me to have this POV because I haven't heard from Grace, and the only thing I've heard was that statement, which I felt like was jumping the gun a little bit. I would love to hear from Grace, like, what her POV is because I didn't think Brianna said anything that crazy. Even though people are going to. This is going to be, like, a hot take. People think everyone's Team Grace, and I'm not team anyone. I heard from Brianna and I thought what she said was compelling, and I understood it. I would love to hear from Grace because maybe her. Her version of events is compelling and truthful, and I would find it, you know, truthful as well.

[A]

So I think when Grace. And there's a lot of history there. But then when Grace saw that statement, like, we're bringing Plan Bri back when, like, she's been on just the side of, like, pran, Bree is over, how are we gonna announce it? And then it looks like Bree's doing all these things behind your back. Like, that would be the time to call Brianna. But there weren't really speaking. And I think she just, like, saw red and was like, oh, I have to answer everything that's happened, how she left me, like, I need to set. Like, I think she.

[B]

And you guys don't understand. Her releasing a statement was so crazy. She, like, never speaks out.

[A]

Never speaks out. I think she, like, just jumped the gun. Like, I just assumed a misintent that, like, wasn't there. And that's what has made all of this explode, was that statement. And I think, you know, in hindsight, her releasing this statement, like, wasn't the right thing to do. And even Josh and Dave, who love Grace and work with her and like, our friends with both of them were like, that wasn't the right thing to do. Especially when.

[B]

Especially because they haven't handled their relationship issues privately at all. So if the first time she's like, Grace is sort of going to speak up for herself for it to be public when these are people who've been best friends since they're literal, like, in elementary school. I think it was kind of the nail in the coffin. It's so sad to see these two, like, not be friends anymore.

[A]

Like, I don't know if you waterline, but, like, when. And I was saying this on the podcast a few weeks ago, how I was looking at Grace and Bree's Instagram a Few weeks ago when I was just like in this drama and like thinking about how Zach Brian came between their like 20 year friendship, like, seriously, like was making me so emotional. And then I was listening again to it today and like, it makes me so sad. And I think if we heard from Grace, what she would really say is how she felt in that moment when she posted a statement. Like how she just felt like completely left behind this, that, this, that and like what led her to post the statement, even though maybe overall it wasn't the right decision. Like, I think the way she felt in that moment, like nothing could, it's relatable, nothing could have stopped her.

[B]

Yeah, right. If she could, if she could identify that maybe she would stand by the statement. Now, I don't know. It is so sad. And I think one of the cool things that like at the time people liked, now people just like hate Brianna for everything she does. So like it's. But the fact that she like, you know, had this opportunity and decided to take her best friend with her, like a lot of people wouldn't do. And it has worked out so well for, for Grace, not only is her barstool career popping off, everybody loves her, she does all the shows and she has tons of followers, but her TikTok career really took off. Her comedy career took off. A lot of people know she's on a national tour right now opening for Whitney Cummings. She's like one of the biggest female comedians. So that's kind of what Brianna was saying. And people thought it sounded like, so pick me and like I did it. But like, look at the opportunity she gave. Grace created all of this. Now Grace is talented and if she wasn't, she wouldn't have gotten all this. But some. Your best friend giving you a leg up, like, yeah, that counts for something. And that's someone who loves you and supports you. So the fact that they were that type of close, because not a lot of bitches would take their best friend with them. It had to be a special type of friend. Like the fact that they were that close and their families are close together. Oh my God, it's. This is actually the saddest thing.

[A]

And that's why it's not call her daddy. Like, Alex and Sophia were friends for like two, three years. They met in an uber pool like today. Yeah, that's what I heard.

[B]

So funny.

[A]

I think so. I think.

[B]

No, that sounds right. Like they were so crazy back then. Like that's. That they would do.

[A]

Right, Something like that. There was like a third person too, who, like, put them together. These are girls who are friends since they were 10. Like, even in the stories that are written about it, like, they have all these photos of them, like, going to prom together, like it's a sisterhood. And like, that's really, really sad.

[B]

So I think a good example of why they, they stopped the show. And it was Brianna's idea to stop doing the show because we had talked about this. Remember the Menendez brothers thing?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So, like, that was the month where, like, people were just so fucking done with Brianna. And Brianna told a story of her and Grace going to Atlantic City when they were like 15, and they ended up like, giving like, hand jobs to like these 60 year old guys or something.

[A]

They didn't say that exactly. They didn't say exactly, like, what happened between the men and the girls, but that, like, it was a situation where they were taken advantage of.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry, Maybe not me just making up hand jobs.

[A]

I don't know, maybe you didn't, but I watched the whole clip and I don't remember a hand job, but maybe I'm misremembering.

[B]

So they were telling the story honestly, it's like a cautionary tale, but also like how they just used to be so crazy, like, and now they look back as grown women.

[A]

Grace was doing her show in Atlantic City and so Brianna's like, I hope it's different for you this time. Girls out there, like, if someone is an older man comes, like, kind of like you know, saying cautionary, hypothetical, cautionary tale that like, clearly happened to Grace and then also to Brie.

[B]

So the Internet perceived it as a story that only happened to Grace and that Brianna was like, victim blaming her. And like, that was a. That was like as big as the Menendez in her, in their, like, podcast community. They were like, she told a story that Grace was not comfortable with and then victim blamed the store. Grace in the story of her trauma as a kid. And I think that one, it's a story that happened to both of them. Two, Grace was okay with it being kept in the podcast or else she would have asked for it to be taken out. Like, things are prerecorded. And that was like another thing that like the Internet descended on Brianna for. And Grace could have just said, no, no, guys, like, it's fine, first of all, and it's true, and it happened to both of us. But she didn't. And so they were just getting into a pattern where they would record an episode and like, try and Brianna would try to like, not say anything crazy, but people were just, like, hating her and loving Grace. And that's such a toxic dynamic, especially when you're trying to be funny and interesting and insightful. So it makes sense why Brianna wanted to stop doing it that type of way, because that's not a. That's not a way to live.

[A]

No. And she said the comments would just become a forum for bullying me and, like, why am I putting myself out there just to get hated? Nobody wants to do that. And she has other things that she could be doing.

[B]

I would love, like, I kind of need, in a biblical sense, to hear from Grace.

[A]

I think that we will hear from Grace.

[B]

In what format? Grace is welcome. On the toast.

[A]

Grace is welcome. I think she's a toaster.

[B]

I think she is, too. And, like, she's a swirly. And that's the thing. It's like, I hate when people, like, take credit for other people's success. Right. Because, like, you can give someone a leg up, but if they're, like, unfunny. It happens in nepo babies all the time. Right. Like, how many unsuccessful nepo babies are there? Like, you need to have the star quality. And people love grace for a reason. Like, she's so relatable. She's so real. She's very funny. And I don't feel like Brianna was taking credit for it. I think Brianna was just trying to paint a picture of herself. I think she feels very misunderstood.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Being like, you guys think I'm, like, this jealous, evil, like, spiteful grace. No, no, not. I invented grace. But, like, I love grace just as much as you guys. I see in her what you do. Like, I.

[A]

And I wanted this for her, and I did everything I could to help her get where she is. And it's hard to, like, when you're back.

[B]

But Grace also did it herself. But it wouldn't have happened without that push from Brianna.

[A]

Yeah. Everyone has somewhere that they got their start, someone who gave them a little something along the way.

[B]

Steve Harvey.

[A]

Steve Harvey is your Brianna.

[B]

Steve Harvey is my Bria. Sh.

[A]

But it's also, like, you can't win when you're backed into a corner, a picture is painted of you of being, like, a jealous person. And then so in. In order to say, like, no, I'm not jealous. I. I wanted this for her and I helped her. Then it's like you're making about yourself because you're. You can't win. And that's why at a certain point, you have to, like, just make peace with people. Misunderstanding you, you know who you are, know thyself. But it is a very hard, harsh world.

[B]

Yeah. Because I had a thought and I actually thought about, like, maybe even DMing it to Rihanna Chicken fried. But, like, nobody wants to hear, like, because I know she knows this, but one of my takeaways from the episode was she puts a lot of stock and a lot of inventory and what the Internet thinks about her. And it's so hard not to. And I'm sure she's working on it, but. And by the way, I. Because I'm now, like, interested in this story, it's all over my TikTok and there's a million, like, mean, bitchy ass drama channels, like, and they hate Brianna. So I've never had that level of interest in a negative way. So I speak humbly. But she needs, for her own health, like, she needs to let go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's so hard. It's so hard. I don't know how to do it. But she needs to actively. I'm sure she is, but I hope she's actively working on that because you put so much stock in what other people think about you. It's such a losing game, especially at the level that you're at with the Internet, that if you're happy with yourself, that's literally all that matters. And the people around you, your family, your co workers, if everybody around you speaks well of you, like, that's what matters.

[A]

Yeah, I think that will come. It takes time and age. And that's also what's hard for them is they're at this, like, such a delicate age where, like, you're learning who you are about yourself and the Internet's also telling you who you are and you're like, wait, I don't think that's who I am. But, like. And you just start to question yourself. And I think over time that she'll, like, harden and be able to tune that out. But it's something that you really have to learn the hard way. And everyone could tell you, you know, it doesn't matter, don't listen to the hate.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But, like, you have to learn the hard way.

[B]

That's the other thing you have to remember. These girls are 25. Like when you were 25 and you had a fight with your friend, like, you probably didn't handle the whole thing perfectly. Like, yeah, but it's not. It's not at the level that this is. And it's not, you know, scaled, but so it's so important to keep that in mind.

[A]

It is very Important to keep that in mind. And I think in time, like, she will emerge from this and, like, you know, be able to tune out the noise. But also, when you're a public figure and more so an influencer creator, like, your job is currying favor with the public and being liked. And, like, when it feels like you have all this hate and it's like, wait, do I even have a job if everybody hates me? Like, you do also have to, like, listen to it just a tiny bit, just to make sure, like, that you have enough to pay your bills.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it's a very, very hard line to walk.

[B]

I. I do feel like it's beyond this point, but I really hope these two work it out. Like, and I don't think that they're, like, once you take it public, like, it's over, but it's the beginning. And I just.

[A]

I think they could work it out right now, in time, if nothing more happens and just, like, say Grace shares how she was feeling in that moment, I think that they could forgive each other for this incident and build back. And I think that they could work it out if nothing worse happens.

[B]

Because I remember when we were doing the call her daddy things, we were.

[A]

Like, the whole time, get back.

[B]

We were imploring them to get back together, like, from a business pov because, like, it was so valuable. We knew what it was for this, like, for your soul.

[A]

Yeah. I think if not for business, the.

[B]

Podcast wasn't ever, like, huge. Like, it was a successful bar, so. But it wasn't like, you call her daddy for their souls. For, like, they need each other. I am imploring them to work it out.

[A]

I think if nothing worse happens and this is, like, the worst it got.

[B]

We can come back.

[A]

We can come back.

[B]

We can come back a thousand percent.

[A]

Great. We'll see what happens.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story? Our third story?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Actually, one of our favorite pop culture tropes, Shawn Mendes, is seemingly addressing the Sabrina Carpenter Camila Cabello love triangle for the first time. And honestly, like, and by seeming.

[B]

What I. I didn't know if. That he had never spoken about it, but also, like, I kind of don't need to hear from him on this.

[A]

Like, no, but I need.

[B]

He's not the sharpest tool. Like, I just. I need to hear from Breener and, like, I'm interested from Camilla Blake Shaman is like, I actually don't care.

[A]

The information that he's sharing. Like, does just, you know, tell. Paint. Help paint the picture that Sabrina was talking about. Because I feel like we did hear about Sabrina because low key, short and sweet is like a Shawn Mendes slam album.

[B]

Slander. Yeah.

[A]

In a preview for Thursday's episode of John Mayer Sirius XM show called How's Life, Shawn Mendes says that while he was, quote, dating someone, he reunited with an ex girlfriend due to some unresolved feelings.

[B]

He says, by the way, not him. Actually validating. Breener.

[A]

Yeah. He said two days before going to hang with my ex, I express, I'm going to hang with my ex because I have some unresolved feelings. In hindsight, he says that maybe instead of two dates, he should have told her two weeks ahead of time. Not the right lesson.

[B]

100%.

[A]

He should not be going to see an ex, period. And if you have unresolved feelings, like, work them out within yourself, there's nothing that your ex can say or do that's going to, like, make it better or worse.

[B]

Facts.

[A]

John then asked Sean, is there something in all of this that you could say, yeah, I played that wrong? He reacts by saying the biggest lesson he learned in life is no one gets out of this life without getting hurt. And no one gets out of this life without hurting someone. Yan.

[B]

No, I just know if me and Shawn Mendes went to high school together, we would hate each other. Like, he's so lame.

[A]

Like, so this, you know, does hark back to the time he was spent, you know, Valentine's Day with Sabrina Palm Springs. And then a few months later, he's kissing Camila at Coachella.

[B]

So.

[A]

And what's the line in her. In her album drove straight to her thighs House. That's that day made sure that the.

[B]

Phone was face down. Seems like overnight I'm just a. You hate now. Devastating.

[A]

Devastating for the Breen. I cannot believe all those songs are about Shawn Mendes. It's actually the craziest thing.

[B]

And I can't believe you didn't, like, know that. Upon once I heard Sharpest Tool, I'm like, oh, that's so Shawn Mendes. And then I listened to the rest of the album, most of it, except for, like, Bed Cam, which is clearly Barry Keoghan. Like, a lot of the, like, the love triangle things. I'm like, oh, that's totally Shawn Mendes.

[A]

Yeah. And this is just like, that this happened this exact way. Like, by the way, Brenner is a truth teller. Not that we ever thought she was in and that he had to see his ex to deal with unresolved feelings and winds up falling back in love with her. Like, yeah, short and sweet.

[B]

Dropping soon they had been broken up for so long, him and Camilla. Like, where were the unresolved feelings when you were single?

[A]

Yeah, I'm sorry. Like, I just don't like that period.

[B]

No. But I do find the Shawn Mendes, Shawn Mayer friendship to be so interesting because I feel like they wait and.

[A]

Then John Mayer and Breener.

[B]

Oh, that. Yeah. But I also think that, like, John Shawn Mendes and his team, like, definitely try to position him as, like, a young John Mayer. And I feel like John Mayer has kind of given his blessing to Shawn Mendes to do that. Although, do you feel like Shawn Mendes has kind of fallen off a little bit, like, when it comes to popular music and just popularity, 100%.

[A]

But I think it's Sean's choice intentional.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I think he does not like choice choice. It's a Shawnee's choice.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Like, I think too much for him. I think he took a step back for his mental health. I think whenever he wants to be more successful, like, he can turn it up or down. The fans are waiting for him. He's very talented. And so I think this is like an Addison situation.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I think he, like, fell off by his own by design. But it did remind me something. An interesting conversation we had yesterday about, like, Renee rap and celebrities who leave, like, popular things while to pursue other projects. A lot of people in the comments had some great comparisons to people who left, you know, very popular shows. I didn't realize because I'm not into the office floor, but Steve Carell left the office, like, at its peak. They say it was her despicable me, But I think also, like, he was over the role and that did not affect him. What?

[A]

No. And he went on to flourish. And maybe he wouldn't have if he was still, like, doing TV all the time.

[B]

And a lot of people in the Renee rap analysis, who people agreed with me, they had this thought. Also, a lot of people blamed Mean Girls, the musical movie, because I did forget that in between all of this, she went on a big press tour for this huge movie that was horrible and flopped. And I think that that put a dent in her momentum as well. I forgot about that because I never saw the movie.

[A]

Yeah. But also, like, in the industry, it's like, oh, we thought Renee rap, like, you're gonna get people to theaters. Plus, it's Mean Girls. It's musical. Like, this should have been a slam dunk.

[B]

You should have been a band aid for the whole thing.

[A]

And when that doesn't happen, it's like oh, you don't have that selling power. Like it would have elevated her. That was the thing. And it didn't go that way.

[B]

So then it decreases your stock.

[A]

I think the stock was decreased. And that is a very good. Oh, she finished your coffee. That. I think that's a really fair analysis. And that feels right. That does feel like what happened.

[B]

Yeah, it does.

[A]

Also, don't forget the lyric and taste. Back to the story. Heard you're back together. And if that's true, you'll just have to taste me when he's kissing you. Which like.

[B]

Yeah. And then also the music video with Jenna Ortega who's so Camila Cabello coded. And it was so clearly it was a duh. No, but what's the other line that like, people really didn't like? But I thought it was like from taste. You drove from LA straight to her thighs. Like she's funny.

[A]

I'm sorry, which song is that?

[B]

It is.

[A]

Is that Found God at your ex's house?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Is it Found God or found love God?

[B]

Sabrina drove straight to her thighs. I'm just trying to find the song. Which one is it? Coincidence.

[A]

Oh, and that's. Yeah, read it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Read it and weep. Turdy.

[B]

What a surprise. Your phone just died. Your car drove itself from LA to her thighs. So he drives a Tesla.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Palm Springs looks nice. But who's by your side? Damn it. She looks kind of like the girl you outgrew. At least that's what you said. Such a good album. What coincident. So good.

[A]

Album of the year, by the way.

[B]

By the way.

[A]

I know. We were like album of the year Grammys. What should it be? It should be short and sweet.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Someone?

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[A]

Our next story, a little casting news. Austin Butler will star as Patrick Bateman in a new take on American Psycho. So Austin Butler's got the role to star in Luca Guadagnino's new interpretation of the book.

[B]

Vinnie's cousin.

[A]

I was thinking the same thing. New interpretation of the book American Psycho. While there had been rumors that Jacob Elordi was being eyed to play Patrick Bateman, that casting didn't come to pass.

[B]

Oh, you just know those two hate each other. They like, they date the same girl, they both played Elvis, they look for the same role.

[A]

Like they can't get away from each other.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

Maybe one day, like Austin will play Jacob in a movie.

[B]

A hundred percent, literally.

[A]

So weird how they can't get away from each other.

[B]

Austin Butler has not done like a major movie since Elvis. And I just want to say I'm like, really not looking forward to like him being back on the press circuit. Like, with a knife.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now he's like, he's just gonna be so crazy. And I kind of hated it. Like Elvis, the movie was amazing. And so I'm not knocking his talent, I'm actually knocking him as a worse sense. Like personally, he seems insufferable. And I don't want to see it. Every news story like, Austin Butler shows up to your house with a bloody knife. Like, fuck off.

[A]

I know. But I am happy for Kaia Gerber because I feel like Austin Butler was getting to a place of like he.

[B]

Lays around the house.

[A]

What is he going to do next? Can he do anything next? Like he was supposed to be the next Elvis and now he's just like unemployed, sitting on the couch.

[B]

Kind of a hot take. I. Okay, this is good. Like it's a good role. Obviously a lot. It's the job a million girls wanted. Just. What's his name? Jacob. Lordy, like, wanted it. So this is like a good role obviously. But I do think after this he needs to play someone who like he's not imitating because he's kind of becoming like a clown. Like where you just show up and impersonate like a professional clown.

[A]

He's becoming like what, an impersonator.

[B]

When you an impersonator. Like, literally. He needs to move to Vegas birthday party. Yeah. So he needs to after this because this is, I think, like a big. It's obviously like a good role, but I don't want him to be put in a box where it's like, where he only comes out to, like, play someone who's dead.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. He needs to, like, invent at this point. He's just copying to invent.

[B]

Yeah, so. Because obviously he's an impressive actor, but if you're only just copying what other people have already done, like, you're just sort of a Xerox machine. You're not an actor. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

It's true. This movie does have the makings to be, like, you know, a big thing. The director, Guadagnino, he did call me by your name. Challengers. So it should be of that elk.

[B]

Oh, oh, okay. Of that elk. That elk is not of the Elvis elk.

[A]

Like, no, that was more commercial. And this is more, like, artistic, but also, like, commercial. And he. Austin Butler has got a face for commercials. Like, I think people will come out to see this. Plus, it has the original fans who never want to see their favorite movie redone, so they'll be skipping it.

[B]

They'll riot.

[A]

I think it's. I think it's what, you know, he needs to do something next, and this is a good idea.

[B]

He definitely, like, took a long break. I'm sure Kaia Gerber is like, what if you went for an audition today? Maybe a walk around the neighborhood. I think he, like, lays at home all day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And ever since you were the one who, like, told me. I don't know if you had proof of this, but just a vibe that, like, he's a social climber and, like, he follows Kaya around to, like, her fancy, like, parents parties. And, like, I see it 100.

[A]

I don't know how she's still with me.

[B]

Like, hey, Kaya, what are we doing this weekend?

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I.

[B]

And they're another couple. Like, how long are you gonna be engaged? It's like, engagements in Hollywood. Like, are they. So they're engaged, right? No.

[A]

They are.

[B]

Yeah. No.

[A]

Kaia Gerber engage. I don't think so. Because she's also younger. She's 23. She doesn't. Like, she could be dating for a few years before, like, Selena is 32. 33.

[B]

Oh, okay. I'm sorry. They're not. I just. I just.

[A]

Oh, my God. Honestly glad she still hasn't to run.

[B]

Yeah. I actually don't like him for her and I'm counting on him a lot, but, like, I actually like him. The Carrie Diaries is great. I'm just. He's fun to make fun of ever since that Elvis thing, but I don't like him for her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I Thought it was a cute moment, especially when he was having a moment with Elvis. But I think my, my actual disdain for him comes from the Vanessa Hudgens of it all. Like, I, I think that was like, so disgusting. Like, I think he's the, like the lowest of the low from that. And I think Kaya is like, if in my dreams, like, slowly realizing, like, the man she. She fell in love with. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. And he's like, older. He's very attractive. She fell in love with him at his peak. But the thing about him is, like, you thought when Elvis came out, like, Austin Butler is the next movie star. It's been a quiet on the Austin front and now it's like, okay, he never got back to when American Cycle comes out. Like, Austin Butler is the next movie star. He's like, he probably has a dark word of like, Glenn Powell where he's just like throwing, that should be me.

[B]

That's the difference. He takes himself so seriously. He would never do a Top Gun because it's considered like low brow commercial. He would never do Twisters. But Glenn Powell is over here understanding how America works and like the movies that Americans watch. And like, he's on his way to becoming the next Tom Cruise. You don't have to only do artsy films to be taken seriously as an actor.

[A]

Yeah. I just feel like he keeps waiting for his big break. He keeps getting it and then it just like it didn't break.

[B]

Yeah, you're talking about Austin.

[A]

No, Glenn is well on his way between.

[B]

Glenn is a working actor.

[A]

You have to work between movies. I don't like, think he's on the couch with a bag of chips.

[B]

No, definitely not. But Austin 1000% is.

[A]

And then when he, like gets the role, he becomes like toxically involved in like undoing all those chips and, and.

[B]

He acts like he's like the first person to have a job. Right. He's like, babe, I can't. I'm like seriously studying my papers or whatever actors do. I don't know. I have to read scripts tonight, babe. And it's like, girl, we've all been reading scripts for years. Yeah, you just got here.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's so the vibe it's giving.

[B]

Unemployed.

[A]

He's done nothing. I'm telling you. That's what's going on.

[B]

1000%.

[A]

Our fifth and final stories is to choose your adventure for 30. Would you rather hear reboot news or live action remake news?

[B]

Is there a third option?

[A]

Sure, I can Philips a third option.

[B]

No. I would rather hear reboot. I know. Excuse me.

[A]

I actually think the other one, the reboot news, would be like more pertinent to you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Which is that Friday night.

[B]

I'm also just checking page six. Breaking news.

[A]

Friday Night Lights reboot is in the works. Thirteen years after the hit shows finale aired.

[B]

Oh, that's something.

[A]

Friday Night Lights reboot is at the. Is in the works at Peacock with Universal Television. So executive producer and showrunner Jason Adams and then writers Peter Berg, who directed the 2004 film. So don't forget it was a movie first and then the TV show. And now will be a show on Peacock. Following a devastating hurricane, a ragtag high school team and their damaged interim coach make an unlikely bid for a Texas high school state championship.

[B]

Oh, it sounds like the Mighty Ducks. The stupid movie.

[A]

I just becoming a beacon of light for their town.

[B]

Okay. I mean what we need in this world is more shows like Friday Night Lights. And knowing that the Friday Night Lights TV show that I loved actually was a reboot makes me. I think you said live action remake.

[A]

That was the second choice.

[B]

Oh, so you went with the reboot story. Oh, okay.

[A]

Because I felt like the subject matter was more dirty and interest.

[B]

Do they have anyone from the original show like tapped? Because in. In. In. In real, you know, East Dylan, you know, Jason street would have lived in town and the coach become the coach.

[A]

Maybe that this is all this seems like very early stages. Like they probably just got the right.

[B]

Scott Porter is still working.

[A]

Like he was available for this.

[B]

He would be amazing.

[A]

And then, I mean, as far as who would play the high schoolers, like, I think we need fresh faces. I think we're ready. This could be the next what Friday Night Light was. However, like, I just want to let you guys know it won't be and like no, of course not.

[B]

They're going to ruin the show and.

[A]

The legacy is going to come out and like nothing will change. Like, well, we're.

[B]

I know, but they really do have an opportunity. They just need your. Now that I'm thinking about it, they just need Scott Porter because the whole show, like the heart and soul was Kyle Chandler, like, and how he loved them kids. Ain't it good to be the couch? And Scott Porter, like, was that as Jason street and he totally could be that as like Mr. Street, Coach Street. And then a fresh cast, fresh faces, people from all different walks of life. And they're not going to do it. And if they are, it's going to be like a woke high school where like Everybody's fighting over their pronouns and stuff, but, like, they should just do a regular ass reboot.

[A]

They should. I'm just saying, like, even if they are going to reboot it, I feel like this happens all the time. Like, it will not make. It's going to come and go. We're going to forget that we're never going to watch this just because that's how things go now. I hope that it's the next big. It's the next Friday Night Lights. I just know that it won't.

[B]

But we'll always have the original show. And I actually rewatched it, like, somewhat recently. I'm definitely due for a rewatch, but the first time I ever watched that, I watched it. Do you remember when portable DVD players were, like, the most important thing in our lives? Like, I can't. I watched Friday Night Lights in, like, the summer of 2000 and waitresses 09. I was. Yeah, in 09, on a portable DVD player with the DVDs. Like, somebody had it in a CD case where, like, we would all pass around the different. And I actually don't know if I've ever been happier in my life. Like, being at camp watching that show. Like, it just, like, that's. That's the best time of my life. Yes. Because I loved camp.

[A]

Like, I didn't watch the show when it was on, but I think, like, about six years ago when, like, Zach and I were dating, we. We watched the show together, and it was so, so good. And I actually watched it at the same time that. Spoiler alert for the show, Nashville. Okay. I watched it the same time that they killed Raina James on Nashville. And I never had to mourn her because I just went back, I just switched the input on my TV and watched Friday Night Lights, and there she was. And I really feel like I usurped the grief.

[B]

Friday Night Lights was actually also, like, a breeding ground of talent development. Connie Britton, Jesse Plemons, Minka Kelly. So many stars. Kyle Chandler, of course, so many stars came from that show. Was she on that show?

[A]

No. Or was it Montreal? No, I think she was.

[B]

She was. She was on Montreal. You're right.

[A]

No, honestly, I feel like we've done this before. I feel like she was on both. Like, you get your girl.

[B]

I actually don't think she was.

[A]

Donna Kramer, Friday Night Lights character. She played Noel Davenport in the following episodes. Okay, three, so.

[B]

So it's actually just a fluke that she was on it. You don't really remember her.

[A]

It's so true.

[B]

It's just a happy coincidence. Yeah.

[A]

No. Oh, who's.

[B]

Oh, that's Minka and just Lila Garrity. Like ev. It's the perfect show.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe she'll be in it.

[B]

Remember when we were saying like Desperate Housewives and what other like the perfect television shows?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What was the other one we were saying? Did we say that?

[A]

I think I did.

[B]

Friday Night Lights is on that list too.

[A]

Yeah, I don't. I don't remember like the late seasons ever really ruining it. Like, I think it ended.

[B]

No, it didn't go on forever. It actually ended early and like it ended on its own.

[A]

It ended with dignity.

[B]

I think it was six seasons.

[A]

Good times.

[B]

Oh, I mean, I can't believe I have talked about this whole thing without talking about my boyfriend, Tyler Kitsch.

[A]

Oh my gosh. Waco.

[B]

He is. He's the show.

[A]

He's the show.

[B]

Texas forever.

[A]

So there's something to look forward to.

[B]

Potential.

[A]

And I'll just give you guys a teaser of what could have been. It's a Tangled live action remake.

[B]

Oh, you know what? I actually heard about that and I'm curious to see who they cast as Rapunzel.

[A]

Yeah, hopefully like a big star studded affair. And it's being wow.

[B]

Nalafi today.

[A]

Nalafi. And it's being directed by the director of Greatest Showman, which huge for the community. So that I actually if I had to place a bet on what would be more successful. I'm going Tangled live action remake.

[B]

Okay. I am starting to realize why yesterday I had to run off the show to poop and today I also do is because of the coffee.

[A]

The coffee and the.

[B]

It's the coffee.

[A]

Coffees plus Nalafi equals bad news duty emoji.

[B]

You guys, thank you so much for listening to the toast and Monday morning show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday The Friday and YouTube. So watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe, even see the thumbs up. Browse available spotlights and we're podcasting Spotify. Visit podcast. Leave a vast RV about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented.

[A]

We all love you. Bye.