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Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five
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things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. Hope everybody's having an amazing fifth day.
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Oh, it's exciting. It's Yomashishi.
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Yomashishi.
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No, I'm not going to take the
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Lord's name in vain.
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You did it.
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But I wouldn't do it.
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I wouldn't take the Lord's name in vain.
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Oh, my God. Are you accusing me?
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You did it.
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The thing is, I'm not a vain person, so I could never say something and have it be in vain.
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I mean, it's not in vain that we're saying it on our huge platform. Publicizing the nays, publicizing the Lord.
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I obviously, I'm incapable of saying anything in vain when it comes to the Lord. I'm so. One thing I'm so serious about is my Lord.
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That's beautiful.
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Oh, my God.
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Happy Friday, everybody.
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Everybody.
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Everybody in the club getting tipsy. Everybody.
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Don't take t pain in vain. Yes, it's Friday. We're in, like, exceptional moods because. Why not?
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Because I think of the fried dairy's nature of the day.
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We've got the shabbos upon us. We're just going to relax into the weekend. I hope everybody has some amazing weekend plans. I personally don't, but I. Which excites me.
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But I feel like there's a lot for us to do this weekend. Like, a lot of options to pull from each, like, yeah, just happening in beach.
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I'm just. I'm overwhelmed at the possibilities. And that's what's so exciting about a Friday. Like, who knows? Maybe I'll do nothing and then on Sunday I'll be like, I wasted the weekend. But right now, in this moment, I have potential.
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It's true. Did you watch any more l last night?
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No.
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You didn't? I really wanted to hear more of your thoughts. I finished it.
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I'm not compelled to do it. I don't even know if I'm going to pick it back up.
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Oh, I just want to know more of your thoughts. Like, if you could, like, I want you just watch a few more episodes just to, like, really decide that you don't want to watch it.
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I am going to watch five star weekend before.
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Well, then you're going to miss the momentum and, like, I'll be over it by Then. But I finished last night and it's just so good. Of course I hated how it ended. Of course I did. But, you know, it's not never too late to, like, undo what works. You would actually like the. The last episodes.
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Because Back to Bel Air.
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She does for a time. Like, it's a bit of a spoiler, but, like, it's fine. It's not really, like, a plot, like, driven show. It's more about.
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Yeah.
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So there is, like, a lot of Bel Air. Like, she goes back to school and, like, there's a lot of, like, California. But you know what? Like, I.
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It's. Of course she, like, misses Seattle. Of course. What world.
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But, like, I. I miss Seattle for her, too. No, it's like. And she. They said it's so good. It's like you have to go, like, where the friction is. Like, she's already conquered la. Like, this is boring to her, as she said. Like, it's very expected. Like, it's not challenging. And like, in Seattle, she was tapping into, like, new reservoirs of herself and really growing.
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But she, of course, there for that long. Because the L that we know is like a Bel Air. Well, she does go to ucla. Cula.
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C U L A. So she goes back to California. But I think she, like, acquires a lot of this depth through the challenges that she has to go through in Seattle.
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And I know funny that, like, Seattle is, like, the hard place. Like, it's Afghanistan, you know, Like, Seattle.
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Yeah. She had to move to Seattle. And that's why people are like, why all the Seattle bashing this week, you guys? Like, we didn't start it. The show.
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Yeah. If she had moved to, like, Miami
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pitted Seattle against the rest of the world. They just did that.
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Absolutely.
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And of course, like, she goes back to Bel Air because she's a little bit, like, run out of town. Out of Seattle. And I just want to say everyone in Seattle is disgusting for not having her back. Like, what she did, I could understand was, like, a little bit awkward, but if you just, like, asked a couple questions about the timeline, like, she could be forgiven. And. And what she had done previous to that in terms of, like, earning her stars in Seattle. Like, she literally saved the whole town. Like, you disgusting bastards. And that no one had her back. Like, they're not worthy of her friendship. So, like, Dustin, you, Liz, Seriously, after Donna. Seriously. And then Miles, like, of course I expect more for Miles. Of course I expect more for Miles. However, like, I think he was feeling, like, insecure because it's like, I think he can't believe that she likes him. So when she found out he found out she had, like, said these things about Seattle. I think it was like he was just so hurt. Not so much like, nothing.
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Taking it personally.
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Like, I think less like I'm mad at you and more like, oh, my gosh. Like, did you ever. Do you even like me?
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No. So I just feel like I've now seen the whole series.
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No, I'm just like, I'm not gonna not spoil it because I know you're not gonna finish it, and I just need to talk about my true thoughts. So, yeah, the way that it ended, like, I ship Ellen Miles. I ship Ellen. Dustin's friendship. I do. Like, I think he's a good friend and. And he's. He's a nice guy. He's really grown on me. But, like, Elle and Miles, like, I just need him to profess his love to her. I need to know everything he thinks about her because he really loves her. Oh, my gosh. And like, Shannon, you'd like.
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Who the is Shannon?
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Do you ever meet Shannon?
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Remind me.
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She's like the nice girl who's friends with Kimberly. I don't know if you ever met her.
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Who's Kimberly? The mean girl. Oh.
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Oh.
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Like, no, I didn't mean a nice senior.
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She gave her a basket.
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No, no, I have no idea what you're talking about. I was watching Braxton Barrios. You know, he's on the Giants now. One of my favorite things is, like, the social media of NFL teams. Like, who I know. It's just like, a bunch of swirlies who run those accounts. And they did this, like, very high, high quality video where they saddled the players down and gave him a bag of makeup and was like, tell us what this does. And of course, like, none of them
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knew what it was except for Braxton.
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They did choose some, like, harder stuff. It wasn't like a lipstick, like a heatless curler. Satin thing for your head. Like, more. He knew every single one. I couldn't believe he knew the heatless. And he. It's not like he said, like, you put it in your hair. He's like the heatless curler.
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Wow.
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They also, of course, they had, like, eyeshadow palettes. The video was cracking me up. Pedicure, like those things you put between your toes.
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He's a good boyfriend.
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He's a good boyfriend. It was a good moment for him. Like, the video. The comments were lighting up for him.
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Yeah, he's supportive. He pays attention to his.
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He's on a good team work. Jackson. Claude Dart was there. He didn't know a lot of them.
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Okay. That's also attractive.
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Yeah, right.
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It's attractive to know and not know, you know?
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Yeah, I forgot that he got traded to the Giants.
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From where?
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Texas. Remember the Houston Texans? And that's really what broke up their relationship after the Dolphins.
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I thought you meant Jackson. Jackson.
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I don't know about Jackson.
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Jackson and Braxton and Paxton.
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I only know Jackson. Claude.
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I know Paxton.
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You know, a lot of people think your son's name is actually Paxton.
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Oh, yeah.
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Do you want to clear up the rumors? And then a lot of people were then confused, thinking that maybe Olivia named her baby Paxton.
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Or, like, when I just talk about Paxton, they're like, well, who's Paxton?
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Mysterious individual.
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Max is called Paxton. Don't ask questions.
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Reuben is called Sandwich. Like, Reuben is called that one. Kind of. It's like, it's obvious why we call him Sandwich.
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He's a Reuben Sandwich.
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Yeah. Paxton's kind of obvious too.
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Yeah. Like Max Pax. Facts. Like Paxton.
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Max and Paxton. Haxton Laxton Saxton.
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Paxton.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, just to clear confusion, if I'm ever talking about Paxton, I am talking about my son.
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Olivia did not name her son Paxton. She named her son Jonathan. Did we ever tell people that? Maybe on the Patreon. Oh, speaking of Patreon, new episode just dropped. We did a whole studio transformation. I'm sure you've noticed we've made quite a lot of improvements if you want
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to, like, the behind the scenes, like, what it took, what went to Home goods, what went into every detail, every decision.
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Lots of behind the scenes sort of industry, type of content and, like, car vlogging.
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Having fun. Snacking.
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Snacking. We did a little snack taste test. We went to Home Goods. They've really unique snacks at Home Goods.
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Yeah. So it's really fun and swirly. Check it out.
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Patreon's kind of, like, blowing up.
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Patreon summer.
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Yeah, it is. Like, I expect mostly vlogs.
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Yeah.
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We're all together. Like, Ben's cooking.
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There's really, like, no plan for non vlogs.
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Yeah. Just doesn't feel like the vibe.
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Yeah. And like, we'd have to come to the studio.
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Oh, right. I remembered the other day that Nicole Kidman. Because I saw this, like, great video of Keith Urban. He was, like, performing at a concert. He, like, got into the crowd. He, like, loves his job.
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Yeah.
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He jobs his love. And I forgot in that moment that, like, they broke up and they had that Weird thing. Remember where he was like, singing lyrics and they say that he cheated on her and now she's with Paul Salem, businessman of the week. That's like. I just. I just feel like that whole thing was unnecessary.
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Which?
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Them breaking up. Like, what are you doing?
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Well, it would be unnecessary if they were, like, back together.
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No, I just feel like the world was more cohesive in a better place. Like when they were married.
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It was actually. I feel like as much as we thought it would be like this destabilizing thing.
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Oh, nothing.
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Nobody sort of like, nobody moved.
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That's interesting. I feel destabilized.
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You do?
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Yeah, because they like, it washed over me. When I was watching this video, I was like, can I enjoy this? I love. Who, like, who do you go with in the divorce if you had to choose?
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Nicole.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I think I go with Keith.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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For women.
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I said that many times.
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I know. But just like, if you're new here, know again. She doesn't support women. Oh.
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If you're new here, there's so much to say.
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Welcome. We're so happy to have you too.
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The morning toast. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome to the morning toast. Jackie and I are your hosts. We are actually sisters.
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True sisters.
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Blood relatives.
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There is someone out there listening right now that doesn't. Just figuring out that we are sisters.
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Like dead ass grew up in the same house. Bloodlines, the whole thing. Jackie's older than me. A lot of people.
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Oh, another fun fact that people might not.
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A lot of people think I'm older
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because actually these days I think I act older. I feel like for a while it was.
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And also you have three kids. I have one. So yeah.
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I think that's maybe more clear now.
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What else can we tell you? We are part time podcasters, part time models.
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No, I've quit modeling.
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Oh, you've left the industry behind.
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I've hung up my eyelash curler. Yeah, no, I'm not modeling anymore.
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I feel like this for the best.
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I don't like, I don't enjoy it. I wasn't jobbing my love, like, anytime that we had, like, modeling.
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But one thing you should know about us is that we job our love.
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We love our jobs and we job our love.
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Absolutely.
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And I had to stop modeling because it just wasn't, like, bringing me joy.
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I feel like a lot of girls in the industry face that.
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Yeah. So I'm like, focusing on other elements of my business.
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And in your career.
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I've pivoted from modeling Yeah, I feel
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that I'm still very much, like, in the industry, booking gigs and stuff, but just know I'm, like, not happy about it.
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Do you ever think, like, you'll leave the modeling world?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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When I meet my, like, tech founder boyfriend, my Evan Spiegel, like, that's the best way to graduate from the modeling industry. Like the Miranda.
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Yeah.
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Kerr model.
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Yeah.
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A lot of Jasmine.
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I mean, they all sort of do.
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Yes. There comes a time where it's time to find your, like, calendar.
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You can be with the Roc rock star.
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Oh. I mean, husband is like a diplomat. Like, I don't know what he does,
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but you can do a rock star too, like Bahati and Lily Aldridge.
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Lily Aldridge, Adam Levine.
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Yeah.
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I. There are a lot of different paths, but definitely marrying well is the best way to graduate from the modeling industry, in my opinion.
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Yeah. So that's what's next for you.
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Yeah. Marrying well, Absolutely.
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So those are some of our dreams and aspirations, in case you wanted to
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know a little bit more about us.
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And if you want to know even more about us, like, on personal level, the patreon.com. the Patreon's really where it gets personal. You know, we can only talk about ourselves for so long on this show because we have to talk about, like, celebrities. We have to talk about MJ and mj.
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Sure.
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But in general, I mean, like, we talk about celebrities and tv.
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Jackie and I were sitting on the couch and, like, I saw the news first about MJ Kardashian. Mj, what is Kris Jenner's maiden name? I don't know. Do you not think it's crazy that we don't know that?
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I'm sure if we hear it, then we'll be like, oh, yeah, that's it.
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No, I actually don't think Kris Jenner made a name. You are never gonna guess what I'll tell you. It starts with an H. And we know that her full name is Kristen. Everybody knows that, right?
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Yeah.
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Kristen Mary. It's her middle name, obviously, after mj.
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Okay.
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Last name. I don't even know how to pronounce this.
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Let me see.
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Huffton. H O U G H, T O N. Like, like the Huffs, but with the T o n at the end.
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Huffon.
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H O U G H, T O N. Howden. That's insane that we didn't know that.
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Yeah, it is. Well, yes, that is.
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Well, when we were sitting on the couch, I saw the news, like, on Instagram, and I was like, oh, my God, mj. Died. And Jackie. Jackie thought I was talking about Mercedes Javid from Shaws of Sense.
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Well, she's like my first top of mind mj.
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She actually is.
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And I just, like, I didn't think that's what you meant, but I couldn't think of the second MJ yet. Like, if I had the first MJ
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is actually Michael Jackson, but he's already dead.
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And that's not my mj. Like, my MJ is Mercedes Javid.
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My MJ is also Mercedes Javid, who I'm happy to report is alive and well. We wishing her the best, truly. But I just thought that was funny.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll get into the
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stories because there's, like, low key drama about it too.
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If you want to get into the stories. You want to talk about the stories? Anything else we want to talk about? Hmm? Oh, my gosh. We're doing something crazy at the house. I don't even. I think you know what we're doing.
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Building butterflies.
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Yeah. We have caterpillars growing at the house.
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I know. You know, it's like an animal rights activist.
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Why? It's gonna be beautiful.
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It is gonna be beautiful. But, like, the fact you can just, like, buy a caterpillar, like, that's not so weird. It's a worm, I guess. Yeah. And they're like, cocooning in the living room right now.
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They're cocooning in the dining room and they have reached cocoon status.
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So you put them in that net.
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Now we transfer them into the netted thing there. They will become butterflies and they can fly in there. And then we will let them go.
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Yeah, that's cool. Maybe they'll come back.
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I don't know. Maybe they'll hang around the backyard.
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Do you think they've enjoyed, like, spending time at our house?
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I think so. Like, we're so funny.
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Oh, yeah. They're probably cracking up all day long.
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And like, cocooning, I imagine.
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Oh, my God. She thought Mercedes died.
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I imagine cocooning can be lonesome and boring.
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No, I imagine cocooning is a dream
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and you need entertainment. Like when you're cocooning. And that's what we are and that's what we provide.
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You know, Luke Combs, Nicole Combs, and their sons are also cocooning. Do you know that?
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I saw she posted that.
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I thought she was posting that she's cocooning. I'm like, what did she posted?
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Her caterpillars. And I was like, I'm literally two days behind you.
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What are the odds?
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I don't know.
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Like, is Everybody is anyone else Q cuting right now?
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It's a really fun activity. I think Zach on them on Amazon. Like, I'll link them because it's like,
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that's what I mean. It's weird that you could, like, buy a butterfly on Amazon. Do you know what I mean?
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A caterpillar. I guess so. But it's beautiful. We're giving life. Yeah.
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And I also want to say the Very Hungry Caterpillar is a terrible book.
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I agree.
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It's just, like, interesting what's taken off because, you know the guy who illustrated Very Hungry Caterpillar, Eric Carle, is also Brown Bear. Brown Bear illustrator. He has a specific look, obviously, like a billionaire, because, like, when I went to TJ Maxx, there was, like, toys from a company called the World of Eric Carle. Like, he's monetized up the ass. I've actually had a couple of his products. And like, in another life.
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No. If someone wrote that book today, like, if a friend wrote that book and gave it to me, I'd be like, you should go back to work.
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Of course, the books that are popular, like, you know the one, it's called, like, coconut or something. It's like orange and pink.
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Do you know what I'm talking about, Coco?
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It's like a chicka chicka. Yes. Chicka chicka. I'm like, are you guys serious? And that's a book I've been reading. Some of them stand the test of time. Cats in the Cradle and the Silver Spoon. Good night Moon. That one is really beautiful.
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Good night, moon.
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Good night, bears. Good sitting in chairs.
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Little bear sitting chairs. Yeah.
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So cute. But some of them, I'm like, this is. It's like, propaganda. It's both of us. Like, I. I genuinely don't understand how the Very Hungry Caterpillar. It is definitely, like, the biggest. Top five.
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Yeah.
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And it's crazy that Eric Carle has two top five books. How much money you think he has? And now he is merchandised.
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Yeah, he's merchandised. So that's probably where the money is.
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Each book has definitely sold, like, well over, like, 5 million copies.
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Yeah. But, like, again, Star will, you know, it sucks. It's like you would buy it as a gift for someone, but you'd never buy it for yourself.
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Let me tell you. I think it's the worst book ever. I have at least copies.
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Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Industry.
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Plant one in Florida.
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Like, there's a lot of books like that.
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Yeah.
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Industry plans.
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Well, we need the industry to plant the camper in the council.
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We need them to plant the camper
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in the council to talk with the industry, actually, because I got a couple of plants I need to plant.
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Yeah. It's so true.
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If you're looking for, like, an actually good book, that's not a piece of the camper of the counselor. It's. Let me tell you, I'm like, I'm knee deep in books. Like, and I. I read books all the time and I'm very judgmental. Like, I need a message, a good message of either. Like, home, hearth, family, whatever. I need part G Ill illustrations. Like some of these depressing ass, like, colorless books. No, and I'm sorry, it needs to rhyme. I know that's controversial. Not everybody thinks books for children need to rhyme. Kimberly. Counselor. I couldn't come up with one bad thing to say about it.
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Thank you so much. Except for, like, the fact that you're not in it.
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Oh.
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I mean, yeah.
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And let's talk about the sequel. We've always said you're gonna. But now I'm also Mom. Like, we should really do a Q lab book where we write, like, the Turdy's Adventures or something like.
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Oh, like a separate series.
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Yeah, like a separate franchise.
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Oh, I love that. Because, like, I, like, I do have sequel ideas.
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You should start ideating.
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I have, I have.
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Okay.
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I have. It's just like, I haven't had the bandwidth, you know, I have the bandwidth.
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You have the idea. So, like, you just tell me and I'll take it to market.
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Oh, interesting. And. And who's right? You're right. So I haven't had the bandwidth.
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But, like, tell me. I'll type it and you talk, you know.
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Okay. Okay.
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We need another children's book.
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I think we need, like, a lot of children's books. Like, we just need a lot because.
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And I know that, like, celebrity children's book, it is a saturated market, but some of them are really good.
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I agree.
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Some of them are really bad.
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River Rose, the Magical Lullaby. She.
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Kelly Clarkson's is good. Jimmy Fallon.
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I never read it. I know. Like, Lauren. Elizabeth gave it to me because she said it's actually good, but I didn't read it. Sorry.
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Also, Jamie Lee Curtis has one that's more. It's a little off.
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The balloons.
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It's a little off.
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Where do balloons go? I like it.
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Yeah. It's obviously the camper and the counselor Celebrity book. Nolla has one. You know, it's like. It's a little oversaturated, but we're just. With the industry.
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So I like, literally, I have 1,000 children's books.
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Like, more. More.
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More. Yeah, let's have more books.
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Your phone is vibrating a lot. Who are you texting? Your best friend? Let me guess. Your neighbor.
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No, it's like junk notifications.
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Junk. You've got junk in your trunk.
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It's like junk notifications. You know, like family chats book. No, that's not junk. Yeah, so I was like, what, like Facebook and.
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And you don't put your phone on do not disturb.
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I always do. I actually didn't find that it was vibrating more like, usually it vibrates a lot. I'm like, do not disturb. But I. I guess you heard it more than I felt.
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I did?
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You did.
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I think we could dive in to
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the Fast 5 stories that you da do need to know.
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Thank you, Dirt Wide.
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You're welcome. Stop fucking calling me that. Stop fucking calling me that. Stop fucking calling me that.
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Stop ending your ads on nationwide.
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Sorry. I do my job like. Sorry. I'm a brand spokesperson.
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Thank you. Turt Shine.
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Yes.
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Turd Slim.
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Yes.
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Our first story as.
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Hold the phone.
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What on.
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What on earth are you doing here?
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Ben's here.
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My purse is right there. Ben is here. Okay, wait. Just don't walk in front of the camera, my darling. Okay.
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The car keys are in my bag. Oh, my God. I thought we were about to get, like, a cake or something.
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Oh, I wish.
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Next time you come to cake. Car keys. Can you bring a cake, please?
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Ben took my car by accident this morning. But it wasn't a big deal. Ben. I was, like, totally fine.
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Did you. I don't even want to know, like, what's going on.
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And we're all good.
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Do you drive all the way here just to switch cars and that's unnecessary.
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That's just a little unnecessary because I did ask you to go set up the water table so you could go do that now. Yeah, set up the water table. Bye. That was very, like.
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Where did he come from?
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I've never come from that door. From the control room.
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He came from the control room.
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Oh, God. He probably unplugged something.
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At least he had the decency to wait till the ads were done. I think that's what he was doing.
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You think?
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I think so.
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I'm credit to him. I'm shaking at the thought of him being in the control room. They should just make sure everything's still plugged in. He just has a way of, like, unplugging things with his mind.
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Yeah, yeah. Like Matilda. Yes. Speaking of paranormal activity, the birds. We haven't even discussed the air quality.
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Oh, my God. You guys okay? Yeah. We live in New York and there's like a wildfire in Ontario that is, is affecting us personally.
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It's affecting. I was also talking to our friend who's in Michigan and she said her really sky is so bad.
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I know it's really bad in the city and people are like actually being encouraged to stay inside. The last like four days. I thought like four days ago we were getting a thunderstorm. So I'm like, oh, it's like kind of cloudy.
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Yeah, A little orange.
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And then it started to smell and turns out like we are getting the smoke from the Ontario wildfires. The air quality is so bad. Like obviously things are worse for the people in Ontario and like north of
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between here in Ontario, but so crazy.
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This happens like every now and then.
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It happens every summer, like one after noon.
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Like there's a cloudy. But for it to be going on almost four or five days is so crazy.
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And up until today, everyone's insisted the aqi, the air quality index has been totally fine. You could be outside. Yeah, it just smells like. It smells drier, but like it's not harmful. But today the AQI is very high.
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It's so spooky not to be like complaining because I know there's like animals probably dying, maybe even people. But like I can't go outside. I can't swim. Like it's my summer break.
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Yeah.
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I hope everyone's okay. Wildfires stay the craziest thing.
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Yeah, they really do.
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And then Jackie was saying the other day that people who start wildfires because like obviously some of them are man made and some of them are.
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So I was looking into it. Between 85 and 90 of wildfires are man made.
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Arson.
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Not arson. Oh, some, A lot are accidental.
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So of course, of course, you know
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you left your camp. Yeah.
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Right. Your hair iron.
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So I take back what I said. Due to those people.
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No, it's like what percentage of wildfires are arson?
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So in the U.S. intentional ignition typically makes up about 10 to 15%.
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That's like still a lot.
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A lot. 85 to 90 is like debris burning, unintended campfires, rain, power lines.
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Yeah, but.
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Yeah, but friction like rain. That's not man made fireworks.
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No, that's natural causes.
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Cigarettes. Yeah.
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You see, Kylie's been smoking a lot of cigarettes.
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She said that she was gutted.
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I feel like she said it on therapist as like a soft launch being like if you see me in a carousel with a cigarette. So yesterday she posted a cigarette. Also reading a script.
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Yeah.
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People are wondering what the secret project is.
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Well, she wants to do some more acting.
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Okay.
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No, but she can do, like, she can dabble because she did a great job with Charlie xcx.
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She did do a great job, and
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her boyfriend is Timothy. And if she wants to dabble, she can dabble.
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Okay.
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It's not like Kim, like, turning her life upside down while also trying to become a lawyer and have four children.
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Well, let's dive into the stories because I have a lot to say about
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Kim and skims and also wanting to now be the next Meryl Streep. That's different. This is a hobby for Kylie.
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Let's dive into the stories because I have some things to say about Kim.
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Okay, so first story. Kris Jenner announces the death of her mother, Mary Jo MJ Shannon, at the age of 91. So Kris posted yesterday a photo of MJ saying, Today we said goodbye to my beautiful mommy, MJ. She wrote a very long caption. It's very beautiful. I'm going to read most of it. She said, there are no words that could ever capture what she has meant to me or the heartbreak of having to say goodbye. My mom was the heart of our family. She taught me everything that truly matters. To love your family fiercely, to be kind, to show up for the people you love, and to never take a single moment together for granted. She taught us that family is everything. She showed us how to love unconditionally and how to find joy in little moments. She showed me how to face life's challenges with resilience and faith. Mom, thank you for every sacrifice you made, every piece of wisdom you shared, and every moment you loved us so completely. I will miss our daily talks. Your smile, your laughter. Our hearts are broken, but we find comfort knowing that love like yours never truly leaves us. This caption's really beautiful, and I want to read it because we. We read a lot of junk on this show, but these are, like, really great life lessons in here, and she obviously did an amazing job of being a mother.
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They love and respect her, so.
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And the legacy that she's left is literally, unbelievably insane. So if we can get any pearls of wisdom from this woman, we should read them.
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It's also, like, if you're a Kardashian fan, like, MJ's been around for a while, and we've sort of, like, known she's, like, had health issues. They talk about it a lot. She's like, just sort of like, frail little woman.
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She's nine.
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She's much older. So we've sort of like, known this day was coming, but it almost, like, never came. Like, she really. Chris took amazing care of her. And I just know Chris is, like, devastated. Chris is, like, very existential. Like, whenever the girls are, like, having a good time, she'll start crying. And, like, once you become a mom, you, like, understand exactly why. And I remember once when she was like. Like, they were like, why are you crying? She was like, well, because you're all gonna be doing this and, like, one day I'm not gonna be here. And it was just, like, very upsetting to hear her. So she's definitely, like, very emotional about, like, time and age. And I just know she's devastated. Like, I feel so sad for her.
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I feel so sad for her too. And Chris is, oh, 70 now, right? She just did her.
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And she had her kids really young
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and seven double zero birthday, right?
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Oh, right.
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But so she's lived 70 years with her, with her mom.
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Like, which is such a blessing. Such a blessing. People don't get that.
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But then to now, not. I know, is so sad. Sad.
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There was also, like, a little weirdness with Kim's Instagram. She's been, like, at the lake with Lewis Hamilton, like, posting videos of them kissing and him with her kids. And, like, nobody cares. Like, I'm telling you, like, this couple's just, like, not impactful in any real way. And Kim posted at, like, noon that, like, a carousel of Lewis and the water skiing lake life. It was a carousel of their week at the lake. And then two hours later, Chris posted that MJ had passed away. So it was like, well, Kim, like, when. When that story went up, like, MJ had probably passed away and Kim probably already knew it. Like, the timing was really strange. Now we know Kim, like, pre schedules her Instagrams and it's like a whole thing, her flow. But it's like, are we still doing that in this day and age? So she then updated her caption because people were commenting like, this is weird. Like, didn't your grandmother just pass away? And she updated her caption just to address, like, oh, this was scheduled. Like, obviously, like, we're. And then Lewis Hamilton posted a carousel from the lake too, with a caption like, hold your loved ones near and dear. Like, I just think it's weird. Why can't they let the lake content go?
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I don't know.
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Or post it in a month?
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Like, yeah, it's like they had to
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get the lake content up. But people, I'm telling you, like, we don't care.
A
Yeah, you can skip it. Yeah, it's a little, just like shallow.
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And I feel like all the things that people say about Kim that I really don't believe, like, it's just like a little self indulged and like, I
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don't know, I don't want to like, judge. Like, I. I think, you know, no one's hurting more than them. Chris and them. Like these people commenting. Why'd you post the lake? Like, they don't care about MJ more than Kim does. Of course they're not more devastating than Kim is. But, like, I also find it weird to be like, scheduling personal content. Do you know what I mean? Like, I know businesses schedule and if you have a launch or whatnot, but like an ad or it's like, we're not going to post from the lake because we'll wait till we go home or whatever. But like the idea that it's like all these, like personal photos are in a scheduling tool. Not that scheduling tools aren't like that ubiquitous, that like, she runs her personal account with a scheduling tool. Yeah.
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And also, like, I know at the time, like, Instagram was all about like flow and how frequently you post, but I don't know, it just seems ever since they like started to copy Tick tock, like, it's more of like a free for all. It's less curated, it's less. And so I didn't realize she was still doing that.
A
Yeah. I just feel like it's not a great look that she uses a schedule to post her personal content when her whole brand is like, social media authenticity and like sharing everything that runs her account. Like, I feel like the way I think of her account is like, nobody else would have the password, you know?
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Right.
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She really, like, it's hers and it is, but a scheduling tool just sort
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of like, takes a little bit of the mystery away.
A
Yeah. It just makes it like less authentic.
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Yeah. So that was just like a weird thing. But I know the girls are devastated. This is so sad. And, like, seriously wishing them the best. I really am.
A
Yeah. Also, Chris lost her sister, like, right. I think that was probably a year ago, like, not so long ago. So I think she's probably just having very hard, like, I love Chris is
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my official, like, favorite Kardashian. She has been for a while. It always changes. But, like, Chris is my favorite. And I just know she's really upset. Like, I know she's taking this really hard.
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Yeah.
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I love her. I really hope she's okay.
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Also, MJ's last name is Shannon because she split From Chris's dad, Houghton, when Chris was seven. So Chris's stepdad, Harry Shannon was like.
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But Chris never took her stepdad's name.
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No. And then I feel like Kris got married young, so she was never particularly
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attached to her maiden name.
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And I think it's okay that we don't know it.
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I think so, too. And I think she wants us to know her as Kris Jenner or Kris Kardashian.
A
Yeah.
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I love that she still goes by Kris Kardashian.
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Yeah. Or there was that episode where she was like, I think I should go back to Kardashian.
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I actually agree only because, like, things with Caitlyn, like, were so bad. But I guess she's, like, as much of a Kardashian as she is a Jenner. It's like an ex husband.
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Yeah. With children. No, I mean, and it's more recent. Like, no, she's four kids. But I feel like when she. When she said it, it was because the Kardashian name was huge.
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Of course, a gender name is huge now, too.
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Now too. But when she said it, it wasn't. The girls were, like, in high school,
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the pictures of Jacob Elordi and Kendall and Malibu, like, so happy.
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I. I want happiness for them, and I just want, like, commitment and eternity. That's also what I want for them.
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The thing is, if she's gonna graduate from the modeling industry sometime soon, that's.
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It's not enough money there.
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He's not. No, it's not a big offer, but
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she has a lot of money.
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Yeah, no, she's fine.
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And her family has money. Maybe they could help them.
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8. 1.
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8. Maybe they could help them.
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You know, it'll be like, the poor couple in the family. Yeah, right. Is she gonna fly home, like, because of mj?
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Oh.
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Or were these old photos?
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Oh, I don't know. I'm sure she'll go home. They were in Malibu.
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I think it's in Maui.
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I think I said, I think it was Malibu.
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Oh, okay. Well, let me just drive home.
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Yeah.
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Kylie was in Malibu, too, so that actually tracks.
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Oh, cute. Yeah, very cute.
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Like, seriously, rest in peace, mj, you were a queen, a true queen, who, like, till the end, had her bob on point.
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Yeah. You wanted to talk about legacy. Like, that's a legacy.
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How many grandkids? Well, great grandkids. Like, how many grandkids?
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Well, we just know Chris and. Right.
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The other side. Remember Kim got her a wedding dress from Oscar de la Renta.
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Yeah. So I don't even know how Many grandkids and great grandkids. But, like, when you think about, like, what her daughter and, like, grandchildren have built, like, it's really amazing.
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Rest in peace, Queen.
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Yes. Our next story, another bit. And Bob from Lerdvis wedding has leaked from Pat McAfee. Thanks, King.
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I wouldn't realize it came from Sir Pat McAfee.
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It did. When I saw that, I just.
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There.
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I guess he was. Yeah. His friends guy. But I thought it was Pat McGrath and then I'm like racking up.
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Was Pat McGrath there?
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I don't know. But they have very similar names.
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No. And Pat McGrath and Taylor are like OG friends. Everybody knows Taylor's iconic red lip is Pat McGrath.
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Right. So maybe Pat McGrath was there and that wasn't totally off base. But Pat McAfee let us know that Avril Lavigne performed at Taylor Swift and Travis's wedding. So he shared that Avril Lavigne played Skater Boy.
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That's like Ben's fucking dream.
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Yeah. He said. I guess me saying Avril Lavigne played Skater Boy was the first time that it came out. But she was awesome. He said, to be clear, those musicians
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really cool, like, oh, thanks for clarifying.
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One would just call out the other and then they would come up and just do their shit. So I get it was like a little bit of like a open mic.
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Yeah. I think also the night before they had like a lot of karaoke. So like people just got up and sang their own songs, sings other people's songs. I don't know if this was like a full on performance where like she had her band with her, but I think a lot of people who are like, also musicians sang.
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Yeah. Also an after party.
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Had karaoke.
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I Spice, he said performed too.
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Ice Place is so random to me.
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Yeah.
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Like she popped on the scene seemingly out of nowhere. But like, I'm not, you know, really into rap music. So like, maybe she had like an origin story that I wasn't familiar with. She was the hottest thing on the planet. Like the fact that Taylor got her, like, it was actually difficult for Taylor to get her. Like it was. And then she like disappeared.
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I believe they call it a flash in the pan.
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Yeah. They say she's in the key Asylum, I think.
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I don't think she, like, had enough
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success to be in this.
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Did enough.
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I personally like that song. You think you're the. You're not even the fart. Like such a good lyric.
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Ew.
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I know, but it's such a good insult.
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How about ew?
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You think you're the. You're not even the fart.
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That's disgusting.
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I know. I'm gonna start using it though. Like, please.
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Okay, fine, fine.
B
Like when Ben comes in, like, you
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know, with his car, having a lot
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of success in his career, like, he comes in thinking you think you're the shit, bitch. You're not even the fart.
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That's mean. I know.
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And Ben is the shit and the fart.
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Please stop. Please, I beg of you.
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Should we tell everyone what Ben did yesterday? No, we can't.
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No, we can't. We can't, we can't. We'll tell you on Patreon. Yeah. Okay, next story, a little Taylor adjacent news. I want to get your thoughts. Sydney Sweeney posted her new undies for cern Siren. Oh yeah. Her lingerie brand is S Y R N. The streets say it's Siren. The toast says it's our brains to think about how it was pronounced. And it. We just assume cern. But it's Siren.
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Okay.
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Siren. And so she posted some of her new undies that are like cute little white and pink lace undies.
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Very like, girly.
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Yeah. And it says they have like stitched. Stitched. But Daddy, I love him. And then she posted that on her Instagram saying panty packs with some of my lil sayings. Hehehe. Get yours now.
B
Now, obviously people are freaking. This is Scooter Braun's girlfriend. This is a Taylor Swift lyric. And I would love to look into this more. But like, Taylor Swift did not invent that phrase. And I think a lot of people maybe just don't know that. She definitely popularized it.
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Not even, like, I think I believe it's from the Little Mermaid.
B
Oh, not everyone like, making it like, sexy. It's from the Little Mermaid Becky. Yeah, she didn't invent that. Like, I could see maybe someone at Siren saying, well, maybe we shouldn't do this just to avoid any sort of. But Taylor didn't invent it and she doesn't own it. And I think if she went to like, file a copyright for it, she wouldn't even be eligible.
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Yeah.
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So this is a big nothing burger.
A
Yeah, I agree. But people are gonna like, take it and run and it's like two folks. It's like, on the one hand she didn't even invent it, and on the other hand, like, she has so many songs, even on TPTPD itself. Like, there are so many lyrics of like, common phrases or whatever. Yeah, she loves if all of those phrases are off limits because she's saying them like, that's insane. And then the only ones that are
B
off limits are the ones she created. And she does create a lot, but she didn't invent all. Like, you sometimes you just like, pull from culture and.
A
Yeah.
B
Phrases.
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And just like, phrases.
B
Yeah. Yeah. And this is one of them. Sorry, she didn't invent it.
A
Yeah.
B
That's not to say she stole it. Like you're using a phrase like. But she comes up with a lot of her own.
A
Yeah, but people are really, like, shook and with the Scooter of it all. But I. I think.
B
Of course. But people are always looking for stuff with Scooter and Taylor.
A
Yeah.
B
And I think at present there's nothing there.
A
Agreed. No, this is not it. The undies are cute.
B
I wonder if Sydney Sweeney, like, likes Taylor Swift, though, because she's just like swirly, you know, she's of age.
A
She can't like her that much.
B
Yeah, well, not anymore. She probably had to set aside. Listen, when you date a billionaire, you know, some things you just gotta sacrifice.
A
Yeah. And a friendship with Taylor Swift.
B
Or even just like the discography of Taylor Swift. She can't be playing that in the car. Well, I don't know.
A
I don't know. And maybe sometimes she drives solo.
B
Well, of course she has her solo playlist. Like, her hidden playlist.
A
I feel like when Scooter talks about the Taylor thing, I actually think he wouldn't mind listening to her music. I feel like that's what he was trying to say was like, that he.
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Yes.
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Likes. Like he respects.
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It was never really about him liking her.
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Right. And he respects her and wanted to.
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He bought the music because he knew
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it was good and valuable. Yeah.
B
Like, no, it was more so Taylor like, Right.
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Thinking that he shouldn't be the one to own her music.
B
Correct. And so we don't have to get into that, but it was never about, like, so I think her hurt.
A
I think Scooter's fine listening to Taylor Swift.
B
I just think, like, the sound of her voice probably reminds him.
A
Yeah. Then. Then, you know, then he had a reason to be mad.
B
Yeah.
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After the fact.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Maybe it's a solo drive.
B
Yeah.
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Are you ready for our next story?
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What? Number four? Because you love to not tell me. Yeah.
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Oh, you're ready for number five.
B
Oh, am I? What do you think?
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I don't think you're ready.
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A
He has gotten really good at making Weight Watchers friendly.
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He has.
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And it's, it's very, like, simple to follow. So once he knows, like the rules and things that are like three points or low points, then he can really have fun with it.
B
Like he made a Greek chicken bowl that was four points. Sweet potato beef protein bowls, five points.
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Like, love.
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I'm a volume eater, so, like, I need low point food because I like to eat a lot of food. So if it's a low point meal I can eat a lot of it and then I'm left feeling really supported. So whether you're curious about affordable GLP1 options or you're looking for smart nutrition guidance and a supportive community, Weight Watchers gives you the tools to stay on track and reach your goals. There's no gimmicks, no fads, it's just science backed approach to designed to support you in getting better results. They've completely overhauled the app experience to get you the support that you need. It's all in one place. It's not just a tracker. Although the tracking I will say is so superior to any other tracking app. It's so organized, it's such a wide database. But they also offer expert guidance, a coach in your pocket and a community at your fingertips. They have supported over 63 million members on health and weight loss journeys. They've been around forever like for a reason. It works. I love the community aspect of it. I feel like if you're a toaster and you're part of like the Toasters Weight Watchers Facebook group, you know how helpful it is to like. I feel like the reason why I know half these recipes is because I get them from other members, people who like sort of gamify it like the popcorn, if you know the popcorn, like zero point popcorn, you pop your own kernels and you get like a couple of zero point additives. The community is the best part of it because like really being on a weight loss journey is so hard and doing it alone is nearly impossible. So I think that's why people join Weight Watchers in the first place. Place is because of the community and I'll have to agree with that as a community member myself. So stop the guesswork and do something that just works. Join Weight Watchers Core plus program for the ultimate weight loss support and better results. Go to weightwatchers.com toast to get a special offer for our listeners. That's Weight Watchers w dash E I G H T W A T C h e r s.com toast for a special offer weightwatchers.com toast check it out. Today they've supported over 63 million members on health and weight loss journeys. And once you get involved in the program you'll understand why, why it's so successful and why it's been around for so long.
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Yeah.
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Thank you Weight Watchers for sponsoring today's show and really helping. Lots of swirlies also they have a lot of different programs. If you're doing like, I did it when I was nursing because, like, obviously I'm in a different life.
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You're hungry or more volume. So whether you're like postpartum, need protein.
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Totally. You have a lot of different options.
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Eating for two.
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There's something for everyone.
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Yeah, there really is. Thank you, Weight Watchers. And thank you, Turd Watchers.
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You're welcome. Not weight Turt. You know, I want to do turd.
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Weight watching turds. Wait. Are you ready for our next story? Are you ready for our next story? I said Turd Watchers role model was on therapists and he revealed that he wants to raise a daughter as a single dad. So I'm going to read the details to you. Role model is opening up about his dreams of becoming a dad. He joined Jake Shane on Thursday to discuss everything from his career to his personal life. During the conversation, Role model, who was born Tucker Pillsbury, your favorite. I know we can't, like, go down the rabbit hole of his name right
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now and we've been there before.
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Shared his hopes for his future as a parent. He said, quote, my dream has always been to be a single father and to have a daughter and to raise a daughter by myself would be really fun. Her name's Winnie. He went on to share that he's opening to welcome a little one through surrogate. He said, I want a daughter that's ideally mine and then I thank whoever had it for me. He admitted that his I, I, I want to, like, watch the clip because, because just text. What?
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Yeah. Also, wait.
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But then he said he admitted that his choices may be destructive for the kid, but he explained he just wants to be able to raise a child by myself. I just want to raise a child by myself because then you can kind of just like mold them into your best friend. Like, is this a joke?
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I don't know. But go to a bar. Like, you're looking for a friend, right?
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You're looking for. And so you're going to like, create a child in your image. And it's like, well, what if you had a boy? It's like the, There are so many things wrong with this statement that, like, I honestly, it has to be, I was like looking for the transcript of it. Can you search on tick tock Role model daughter?
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Yeah, because, you know, I hate to
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and I don't want to, like, comment on it if I don't have all the information. But, like, this is so twisted to me.
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Also, he's literally dating Like a Dakota. Yeah. A woman who, you know, okay, here.
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Be a single father.
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And to have a daughter and to raise a daughter by myself would be really fun.
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Her name's Winnie.
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Dream has always been to have. Sorry.
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Seems like, not a joke.
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No, he seems like he's talking quite seriously.
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And, like, are we supposed to be,
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like, an edit of it?
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Are we supposed to be impressed by this?
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I just. I don't want to, like, say anything out of turn, so let me just, like, offer my credentials. Like, I was raised by a single mom, so I'm just gonna say I don't think, like, nobody sets out, like, wanting to be a single parent. It's hard. And I think it a lot of times works out for the best. And of course, like, but it's not ideal to be doing it alone. So, like, this is, like, a weird thing to say.
A
I think it's a weird thing to say. And, like, he's already, like, named the child. And again, like, what if it's a son?
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The naming is weird.
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It just seems, like, so, like, rigid. And that's just not, like, how also,
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like, to, like, to have a dream, to have a child so, like, you have a friend is, like, a bad.
A
And that image. And he says, like, this might be destructive for the child. It's just, like, not about you. I just don't think that this is, like, funny or, like, coming off the way he thinks it's coming off. And I don't know if that's, like, a hot take, but I. I think it's, like, kind of twisted.
B
I agree. It's, like, a little dark.
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Okay, great.
B
That's weird.
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Yeah. I wonder what, like, Jake said back. Like, I wanted to hear the conversation. I was looking on, you know, Spotify now, like, they segment the episode by, like, topic discussions is actually amazing. So I was like, where is this in the conversation?
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Role model's daughter.
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Role model's daughter. Tucker's love life. Would it be under there?
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I'm not, like, people were so freaking about him on therapists. Like, I don't really. I'm. I'm just. I think I'm a little old for, like, the role model me, before we
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recorded, of being his biggest fan. You are.
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You're always choosing stories.
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I'm not. I think you're confusing him with somber. And I've become a really big fan of somber.
B
Me too.
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I like you, but my body isn't ready.
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I don't want to talk down on your lover. I don't want to be a home
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wrecker and the other one, the one
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12 to 12 in a room full of people, I look for you. No. So good. Like, the kids. Let me tell you, the kids ate with Somber.
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I also, like, I tried to listen to Role model in the car because I know his, like, bridge is going viral in Joy or whatever. So I was like, oh, I like that part. Let me listen to Joy and, like, the bridge is good.
B
Yes. Sally. I like that song.
A
Yeah.
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But it's like, one song is gonna need more than that.
A
Yeah. So I just feel like he gets a lot of, like, uplifted from Jake from. From Somber. Like, I think Somber ties.
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I think you're the only person who's confused.
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Tides are raising. Roll ship.
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I don't agree. I don't agree.
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I think. So, like, when I see a song, I'm like, I just really conflate the two. But now I know I've identified that I like Somber. And I don't really like, like, role modeling.
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And this, like, weird statement isn't helping.
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No. And he dated Emma Chamberlain for three years. Yes.
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Like, when he was truly nobody. I was like, she was being very generous with her time. And then, of course, like, the second
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they break up, Roll is the one that Taylor likes. Or Somber.
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Somber.
A
Oh, I love that.
B
Yeah.
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And Somber now is reminding me of Benson Boone.
B
Okay. Yeah.
A
Very similar, like, but sure. More Benson.
B
Yeah. Yeah, I agree. That's why Harry Styles is having a hard time. Like, there's a lot of competition in the male pop star space. For a while, it was just kind of lonely for him.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of Sally, are you ready for our fifth and final story?
B
Is this about Kyle Cook?
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No, but it is about Sally Carson, so we can talk about Kyle Cook. Lala Kent and Sally Carson are starting a podcast together about sex. It's called Sex Unlocked.
B
Was there no food news today that you could.
A
No, I actually. I saw this, like, on my own, and then there was a bunch of news about, like, Sally Carson. I'm like, I kind of want to talk about this podcast because, like, it's hitting me wrong.
B
Okay. It's not hitting me at all.
A
So, like, it's actually. It's worse than not hitting me at all. Like, it's actually hitting me wrong. It says, forget the birds and the bees. We're talking about the toys, the turn ons, the orgasms, and everything they conveniently skipped in Sex Ed. And then, like, the first episode dropped last night, and it's just, like, the girls, like, just talking, like, about sex.
B
I'm Uncomfortable.
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Uncomfortable. Like, everyone wants to be Call her Daddy again. The thing is, even Call her daddy doesn't want to be Call her daddy.
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Call her daddy. Doesn't even want to be Call her daddy. I feel like she. I. I feel like when. I don't know if you saw, like, Kenzie was, like, when she was, like, so excited to be on Call Her Daddy, she was like, you taught me how to suck dick. I just felt like Alex, who's, like, there, like, matured, pregnant, like, her butthole clench. Like, I feel like she runs from that. She's not a sex podcast anymore. Like, yes, people come out and maybe talk about, like, more racy things, but not really. I guess there is, like, a market for it because that is when the show was most popular. Like, two girls just talking about, like, sucking.
A
Ooh.
B
I just thought I'd switch it up
A
a little bit by saying, please no. Yeah.
B
So I guess there is, like, an audience of people for that because it was so popular at the time, and now nobody does that.
A
Alex and Sophia were really young. Young, like, when they were doing it, and so I think that so was their audience. And it's. It is sort of like that age of, like, you know, there is no sex ed. No one's talking about this, versus, like, Lala and Sally are, like, with, like,
B
children, like, yeah, one of them. Yeah.
A
And the audience, the Bravo audience, like,
B
we know how things work.
A
I know how things work. And. And it's not, like, revolutionary to, like, talk about sex and be sex positive. Like, that's not a novice concept, but, like, acting like it is is just a random pairing acting like its novice is tired.
B
Don't you find?
A
Yeah. And I love Lala. I like Sally sometimes on Southern Charm, but I think off the show, I would like her more than on the show. I think on the show, she's, like, being a character, and I respect that. That's why, like, you think this would be for me, that the two of them are doing a podcast. Lala does, like, a lot of podcasts.
B
She does. I feel like she kind of can't get something to stick.
A
She does the unlikely affair with Randall's.
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And I feel like, like, when they announced that, like, it was buzzy, but, like, the novelty has worn off. And I don't think it's, like, a show that gets, like, a lot of consistent listenership.
A
I see clips. It seems like they are having some compelling conversations.
B
I'm sure. I just don't think it's very popular.
A
I know. And I like the clips That I see, but, like, not enough to listen. She also does her solo podcast, Give Them Lala, but I think she changed the name.
B
Yeah. So I just think she hasn't really been able to like, strike yet with a podcast. And when you're a reality star, current or former, like, podcasting is such a big revenue stream for you. Like, I actually think Shenanigans is like, quite popular. I think it does well. She, like, works hard at it and like, she has good gifts, guests. So I feel like Lala hasn't really had success in a podcast yet. So she's just like, trying different things because. Yes, this is like the. I feel like the third time we've done a story about a podcast Lala's launching.
A
Yeah, no, I. She does her solo and I think she's been doing it for a long time and it does well. But then you get to a place where it's like, well, let's start another. No, no, let's start another one. We could double our revenue. You know, like, we've had those thoughts before if we did another evening toast.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
A re. Watch. You know, like, that's sort of like what you start to think. But I don't really think that that's like, necessarily the right thing. I also think this is like an I heart radio podcast. I think it's very, like, branded and stuff and they're probably just like getting paid and.
B
Okay.
A
And I just like, no. Okay, but did you want to talk about Sally and Kyle?
B
No. That's why I thought you were choosing. I'm like, oh, who cares?
A
And that's like, old news. He's also, like, seeing evil dad.
B
Oh, yeah, from next gen. She seems young. Yeah, he seems. People, like, have rewritten history when it comes to the summer house crew because Kyle was, like, wronged by Amanda, so everyone's like, giving him this like, hero edit. So. Yeah, he would date like a teenager. He's like, not a good guy. What are you guys talking about?
A
Everyone likes a girl like her. Date him.
B
When you're new to the Bravo universe. He's like the cool older guy. The senior.
A
Please.
B
No, I'm serious. Like, that's people.
A
He's the super senior.
B
He is the 40 year old who's going back to college, like, going to night school.
A
Yeah, no, he's the one like.
B
No, but I could see being like, young, naive, new to reality tv. He's just part of this huge scandal. So, like.
A
But she's not naive because she's from like.
B
Yeah, no, but reality TV is like, Bravo's like a whole new universe. He's like one of the cool seniors. I'm telling you. Like, I could see her being, like, dazzled by that.
A
Okay. Yeah, that's surprising.
B
Just a guess.
A
So that's what's going on in the Bravo sphere.
B
I feel like it's been kind of quiet. A quiet summer for the Bravo universe.
A
What's on now? People are saying real houses of Orange county, which it's just been too long for me.
B
I agree. Like, it's also a bad season for Heather Dubro.
A
I've missed too much. Oh, she's on the show. I didn't even know.
B
Yeah, I don't know. Wasn't she, like, trying to get on Beverly Hills?
A
Was she?
B
Yeah, they sold their place in Orange county, the one that they talked about forever. And we finally got to see. They had like a Nobu in the kitchen. Yeah, it was amazing. You know, it was amazing. And then they sold it shortly after they set a record and they bought a place in la. I think a lot of people thought she was like aiming for a spot on Beverly Hills, which actually she would be good for. She does feel really out of place with the other women on Beverly on Orange County. But I guess she's back.
A
Okay.
B
She must be paid well because she's
A
a big draw and I think she, or last I checked, like, she had a real friendship with some of the women. Gina.
B
Gina. Okay.
A
I love Gina. I'm surprised. And you love Emily. I'm surprised you're not watching.
B
I love Emily. She has her head on straight the last time I checked. Don't quote me on that. That's our show. Those are the stories, right?
A
Yeah. Thank you guys so much.
B
Listening to the toast of Monday morning show.
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We did a fun, flirty Friday. But you need to know, fun and fearless, like Elle would say or Taylor Swift. Oh, she's also fearless.
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Wherever you guys podcast, make sure to find us and leave a five star review at our beautiful setting in weekly town to be our. Hope you guys have an amazing weekend. Hope you guys have some fun plans and we'll see you on Monday.
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Love you. Bye.
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: July 17, 2026
Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)
Episode Theme: A Friday catch-up episode filled with sisterly banter, TV and pop culture discussion, family life stories, and reactions to the death of Kardashian matriarch MJ. The Oshrys cover a broad swath of topics with their signature mix of sarcasm, warmth, and pop culture expertise.
This episode of The Toast is a classic Friday round-up: Jackie and Claudia Oshry bounce through their weekend anticipations, deep-dive into TV recaps, family anecdotes, the Kardashian family, child-rearing, wildfires affecting New York, and the latest in pop culture. The conversation is threaded with spontaneous humor, inside jokes, and the swoopy energy that’s become this duo’s trademark.
Mood Setting: The sisters open with high energy, welcoming listeners to a "fried dairy" kind of Friday and the limitless possibilities of an open weekend.
Weekend Plans: Claudia relishes having no plans; Jackie is excited by the options ahead but admits she may end up doing nothing (01:33–01:51).
Jackie finished the show, laments the ending, defends the main character Elle’s journey from Bel Air to Seattle and back, and expresses strong opinions about supporting characters:
Claudia is less compelled to finish, highlighting their different TV tolerance.
A vibrant, kinetic episode featuring classic Toast banter—mixing quick-fire pop culture coverage, nuanced Kardashian analysis, and sharp observations about the influencer and Bravo-industrial complex. Highlights include a reflective discussion on MJ’s passing and her legacy, strong TV recaps, a playful takedown of children’s books, skepticism of podcast industry trends, and a memorable critique of one male pop star’s questionable “single dad” fantasy. With witty speculation, contrarian hot takes, and genuine sisterly affection, Jackie & Claudia deliver another “fun and swirly” Friday Toast.