Cackling Hags Back At It Again: Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025

Summary

---

The Toast – “Cackling Hags Back At It Again: Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025”

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: September 2, 2025

---

Episode Overview

In this high-energy, post–Labor Day episode, Jackie and Claudia ("Jax & Claude") reunite on The Toast after Claudia’s maternity leave. The conversation bounces through themes of motherhood, work-life balance, returning to routines, US Open tennis, pop culture headlines, reality TV recaps, and, of course, their signature comedic sisterly banter. The episode sets a lively, refreshingly candid tone as they talk about the joys and challenges of new motherhood, post-summer resets, major pop culture moments, and why they're embracing a new, more unfiltered era on the podcast.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Returning from Maternity Leave: Motherhood & Resetting

• Claudia returns after 3 months of maternity leave. She shares her emotional experience of re-entering work life as a new mom, highlighting both the challenges and excitement.
• Reset & new routines: Both hosts reflect on the post–Labor Day “reset energy,” likening it to “January 2nd” (post-New Year’s) or “January 6th” (chaotic restart).
  • [00:24] B: “Happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday, but it also feels like a Friday ... I had a baby. We survived maternity leave.”
  • Both appreciate the structure and added value podcasting brings amid the chaos of parenting.
• Gratitude for their flexible jobs and for their Toast community, especially as working moms.
  • [03:13] B: “I feel like we have the best jobs ... we can make flex schedules.”
  • [03:38] A: “Doing this show just adds so much joy and value to my life.”
• Shout-out to global audience, especially Canadian “Toasters.”
  • [04:34] A: “They make up the majority of our global audience. They keep us global.”

---

2. US Open & Spritz Tennis Sponsorship

• Spritz’s surprise sponsorship: Claudia’s husband, Ben, sponsored an underdog American doubles team (Cash & Tracy), who unexpectedly beat a top-seeded Italian team—causing major excitement in the Spritz and Toast households.
  • [07:44] B: “Let me tell you, this match became so insane that they put it on primetime and not our American boys beating those Italian shits.”
  • Hosts highlight the patriotic, frat-like energy of the team: “They were hyping up the crowd ... I thought they were seriously going to funnel a beer.”
• Spritz brand pride: The team wears Spritz hats post-victory; Claudia and Ben plan to attend the next match.
  • [09:00] B: “Not them putting on their Spritz hats. It was so exciting ... this is the coolest thing.”

---

3. Summer Recap, Good Guys Ending & Sourdough Era

• “Good Guys” podcast is done; Ben starts making sourdough.
  • Sourdough starter drama (overflowing jars, marital stress) becomes a running gag.
    • [11:06] B: “There’s starter on my wall. There’s starter on the counter.”
  • Ben’s love of starting projects vs. finishing them is debated.
• Clutter vs. nesting: Both are in a post-vacation, purge state—getting rid of unused items after two months away.
  • [17:24] A: “When I see it, garbage. When I’m cleaning up, I’m not cleaning, I’m garbaging.”

---

4. Honest Conversations about Pregnancy & Podcasting

• Creating a “safe space” for bad moods in pregnancy: Recognizing the difficulty of maintaining cheer through fatigue and aches.
  • [13:03] B: “Nothing makes you more foul ... than waking up every single day, like, backache, no good sleep, heartburn.”
• Podcast as therapy: The show “forces” joy, laughter, and social connection, helping mental health during tough times.
  • [14:19] A: “Instead, I’m cackling ... it actually affects your mental health positively.”
• A “cackling hags” era: More unfiltered, less concerned with criticism.
  • [15:00] B: “You guys thought I didn’t care before. Like, I really don’t care. Oh, you have a problem with something I said? Cry about it.”
  • [15:19] B: “When you birth a child ... it puts things in perspective. It’s just a podcast.”

---

5. On Seasonal Shifts and Internet “Pumpkin Spice” Culture

• Claudia and Jackie voice anti–early-fall-content opinions, favoring an organic transition out of summer.
  • [15:59] B: “Everybody’s rushing the summer away ... I do not tolerate that type of Internet behavior.”
  • [17:03] A: “I sort of just let the process happen ... I’ll feel like entering fall.”

---

6. Pop Culture Lightning Round

- Fifth Harmony Reunion at Jonas Brothers Concert (Dallas) [29:01]

• Four members (minus Camila) performed “Work from Home” and “Worth It”
  • Performance described as nostalgic, but “a hot mess”—with choreography mishaps and wardrobe fails.
  • [31:31] B: “The cohesion was not. They were doing the same dance, but it was a different dance to each of them.”
  • Camila’s absence noted, but “her vocals were all over the track.”
  • Discussion of Normani’s squandered potential and Camila’s surprising “flopping” solo era.
  • [32:33] A: “But them coming back together and reminding us in 2025 that it’s a mess ... is bad for their stock.”
  • [35:28] B: “We’re going to call it on Normani ... she's not the next Beyoncé.”

- Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Engagement [43:43]

• Jason Kelce wants to be best man; debate over potential bachelor/bachelorette parties.
  • [40:08] A: “He’s hoping to be Travis’s best man at the wedding ... Travis has a lot of friends.”
  • They joke that this is the closest thing the US has to a “royal wedding.”
  • [43:22] B: “It is the closest thing in America that we have to a royal wedding.”
  • Also, speculation about Taylor’s bachelorette party guest list and desire for privacy.

- Sabrina Carpenter’s “Raunch Era” [44:25]

• Claudia and Jackie react to explicit lyrics on Sabrina’s new album, sharing both surprise and admiration for her boldness.
  • [45:15] B: “She’s dropped the innuendo ... just being extremely direct and clear. Like, hey, sex. You know, clitoris, penis.”
  • Both respect her for “standing on business” despite potential backlash.

- Harry Styles and Carole Radziwill: Viral Wedding Photo [46:55]

• Discusses a viral moment of Harry Styles helping Carole with her dress stairs at a glamorous wedding, noting the importance of documentation for credibility.
  • [49:18] B: “She’s such a good friend. ... If that was me, if I was Carole, I would be kissing.”
  • Carole’s Bravo comeback on “Watch What Happens Live” noted as another pop culture moment.

- Scooter Braun & Sydney Sweeney Dating Rumor [56:11]

• The duo discuss the rumor with skepticism but admit it would be a “cute summer fling.”
  • [57:50] B: “I just think she dates weird people ... this makes too much sense for her.”
  • Discussion of Sydney’s prior tabloid-entwined relationships.

- Vogue’s Next Editor-in-Chief: Chloe Ma [60:12]

• Anna Wintour is allegedly tapping Chloe Ma (Candace Bergen’s daughter) as the new American Vogue editor.
  • [60:46] B: “It’s a job you have for a while. … They could desperately use someone young.”
  • Conversation about nepotism (“Nepo babies”), credentials, and Victoria Beckham as a rumored possibility.

- Brooklyn Beckham & Nicola Peltz “Vow Renewal” & Chloe Grace Moretz Wedding [63:25]

• Brief discussion about Beckham-Peltz family drama and Chloe Grace Moretz marrying her wife—Blue wedding dress divided opinions.

---

7. Reality TV & Media Consumption

• Catching up on “Love is Blind” UK, “Love Island,” “The Summer I Turned Pretty,” and other shows.
  • In-depth recaps mostly saved for Patreon or future episodes.
  • [19:18] B: “We’ve been keeping up with pop culture on Patreon for the last eight weeks.”

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On motherhood & working:
  • [02:36] A: “A dichotomy of working mom.”
  • [03:00] B: “People think coal mining is hard. They’ve never been a stay at home mom.”
• On post-Labor Day energy:
  • [01:03] A: “It’s the first day back to work after Labor Day, after summer. It’s like a January 2nd.”
• On the Fifth Harmony reunion:
  • [33:04] A: “From afar, it looks like just a successful girl band. One of the best of the 21st century. … But them coming back together and reminding us in 2025 that it’s a mess is bad for their stock.”
• On podcasting post-baby:
  • [15:00] B: “You guys thought I didn’t care before. Like, I really don’t care. Oh, you have a problem with something I said? Cry about it.”
• On embracing authenticity:
  • [15:19] B: “When you birth a child ... it puts things in perspective ... it’s just a podcast.”

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 00:24 | Claudia returns from maternity leave; show “reset” | | 04:34 | Shout-outs to Canadian/global listeners | | 06:44 | US Open: The Spritz athletes story | | 10:15 | Ben’s sourdough journey | | 13:01 | Space for pregnancy struggles on-air | | 15:00 | Claudia’s post-maternity “I don’t care” era | | 15:59 | “Rushing the summer away” online culture | | 29:01 | The Fifth Harmony reunion breakdown | | 43:43 | Jason Kelce’s “best man” hope, Taylor & Travis wedding speculation | | 44:25 | Sabrina Carpenter’s “raunchy” album lyrics | | 46:55 | Harry Styles helps Carole Radziwill at wedding (viral photo) | | 56:11 | Scooter Braun & Sydney Sweeney dating rumors | | 60:12 | Vogue’s next editor-in-chief: Chloe Ma | | 63:25 | Beckham-Peltz vow renewal and Chloe Grace Moretz wedding | | 68:13 | Plans for more TV recaps; episode wrap-up |

---

Conclusion

This episode marks a strong, re-energized return for The Toast after summer break and Claudia’s maternity leave. With their trademark wit, relatability, and “cackling hags” energy, Jackie and Claudia keep listeners up-to-date on their personal lives and all things pop culture. The sisters strike a balance between candid vulnerability and hilarious, hyper-current commentary—making for an engaging listen that sets the tone for a new era of “not that serious,” unfiltered podcasting.

---

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson. Claude, and we're your host.

[B]

It's your favorite show.

[A]

The best five things you need to know.

[B]

We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[A]

They sound amazing.

[B]

Welcome back to the Toast. And Happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday, but it also feels like a Friday, because we're celebrating. Yeah, that's right. We're back. I had a baby. We survived maternity leave. It's Jackie. I'm. It's Claude. It's Jackie. Good luck. You're not gonna hear Jackie today because I got a lot to say and not a lot of time to say it. Hey, Jacks.

[A]

We all have a lot to say today. It's giving January 2nd, like, first day of the new year. I don't know.

[B]

I thought you were gonna say it's giving January 6th. And it is, because this is. We are, like, riot. There's just a lot going on, much like there was on January six.

[A]

And I feel like, objectively, for all the swirlies out there, there's a lot going on today. It's the first day back to work after Labor Day, after summer. So, like, it's really the first. It feels. It's like a January 2nd in its own way.

[B]

It's a reset for a lot of people. Not to center ourselves. Obviously. There's a lot going on for us as well.

[A]

Right. But I'm experiencing, like, a complete reset just from summer, from coming home, from, like, unpacking, from coming back to toast. Like, I. I can't remember the last time a day held so much in it as today.

[B]

No, it's so true. And do you also feel like a lot is also happening today? Like, otherwise, like, I just, like, maybe it's because I don't normally wake up this early before work. I've been up for hours doing feedings, you know, a million things. I don't usually have a whole ass day before the toast, but I've literally lived three lives already today.

[A]

No, I know. And that's toast. Motherhood.

[B]

I kind of love it. And I might be, like, regretting saying this, but I do feel like once I get settled into a routine, we're in the process of putting Ruby on a schedule, getting his naps and feedings, like, more routine. Thank you. I do feel like I could get to a place where I could start recording earlier.

[A]

I felt that way in the spring. Today. Just today. No, but honestly, maybe after the baby and everything, I. That is something that is in our future as A mother.

[B]

We're just like early risers now. So, yeah, I'm a working mom. I fed my baby twice before getting here. I cried last night, but couldn't get out of the house fast enough. I just feel like that's so such.

[A]

A dichotomy of working mom.

[B]

It is. And I was hysterically crying to bed and like, looking at pictures from when Ruby was born last night. And I turned to him and I'm like, just to be clear, I had like snot in my nose, tears in my eyes.

[A]

Just.

[B]

Just to be clear, like, I don't want to stay at home. Like, I don't want to be a stay at home mom. I like working. I like, I don't want to be a. So I'm.

[A]

Not laughing at stay at home mothers. The real.

[B]

Of course, I could seriously never fucking do what you do. It is literally the hardest job in the world. Like, people think coal mining is hard. They've never been a stay at home mom.

[A]

Laughing at the acronym. Just want to shout that out.

[B]

Some. Some. And so I don't want to be. And I'm like, I'm really. I feel like we have the best jobs like Knockwood for being working moms. Like, we can make flex schedules. Like, I feel like I've really not been taking a lot of meetings for the next couple of weeks. Like, I'm just being so chill. But it's hard. It, like. And I. I'm not saying mine is harder than other people's. Like, people's are harder than mine for sure. Like, I'm just saying I had a tough morning. Okay.

[A]

No, it's been a long morning. And even though like this summer, so I was like samming, you know, this summer because we weren't working. But like, really doing this show just like adds so much joy. Joy and value to my life purpose. Like accomplishment, achievement. Yes. I. I really like the balance of it 100%. And I just want to shout out to the toast and whoever is still listening today, like, we'll see.

[B]

And shout out to us, honestly, for like building this.

[A]

Yeah, no, crush.

[B]

Crushed it. And it really was. I know everybody, like, wanted to kill me for, like being so indulgent, taking my three month maternity leave, not the bitches in Canada being like, we have a year. Good for you. Okay. You also live in Canada, so. What about that? Yeah. What a boot that. What a boot. That a. No, I'm kidding. Sending so much love and light to our Canadian toasters. We are huge in Canada. Like, can't stress that Enough. And we love you, dear.

[A]

They make up the majority of our global audience. They keep us global.

[B]

I would say that they are the only part of our global audience, except we definitely have listeners in Israel, and.

[A]

When toasters travel, they take us with them, you know, so then we have a listener in Africa.

[B]

In Italy. Yeah, of course, of course, of course. We're huge in Africa. What was I saying before this? Oh, yeah. So I was gone for three months. Obviously, not to make everything about myself. I'll probably never be gone for three months again. Like, obviously I want to, God willing, have more children, but when you're a business owner, taking three months is, like, extremely indulgent, and I won't do it again. But I do feel like I learned. I think, like, next time I'll be able to come back within, like, five or six weeks. Like, I felt like a little bit back to myself again. We have flex jobs, so don't worry, it won't happen again. And a lot of people are like, well, Jackie's about to have a baby. Are we taking off another three months? No, no, no. Thankfully, I live with a permanent co host, so really it's, like, not hard for me. I don't, like, book people, and I will be booking people, Claude and friends, but I'll be having Ben and Margot, everybody in my town. And I live in New York. It's, like, a lot easier. So we'll be taking no time off for Jackie's maternity leave. Don't worry, we wouldn't do that to you. Two leaves in one year.

[A]

Yeah. No, and we've. Yeah, there's always someone, but just the way that summer came and, yeah, typically you would have taken, like, say, two months, but to come back for August, like, full force, it's. August isn't about that.

[B]

It's a slow month. It was my first, you know, time being a mother, and I'm so glad I did it. I had an. Honestly, an amazing maternity leave, being with you for more than half of it. And, like, getting to do my leave in the Hamptons with my family, like, is so special. Like, it was really. But then also having that first month, just, like, hunkering down in the trenches, me and Ben up every two hours. Yeah, it was. Honestly, I could not have asked for a better three months. I'm so happy to be back, though. And also, like, I feel like I kept up with my job pretty sufficiently. Like, we were churning out content between Jackson friends. I came back on the podcast, like, once, and then we did Patreon. I feel like, the listeners were fed. I was, you know, feeling fulfilled in both motherhood and work. And I'm just so fucking happy to be back, bitch.

[A]

But you have to fill up all your cups, you know?

[B]

Yeah, but you don't want them to run it over. That's actually not true.

[A]

Like, you do, God willing.

[B]

Well, speaking of cops, sure, today's a big day, obviously, because we're back. But I'm also just like, very last minute, throwing together a plan to get to the US Open because the craziest thing ever happened to me last night. Well, not to me, but like, to us.

[A]

The Spritz athletes.

[B]

Okay, so Ben comes and tells me yesterday. He didn't even tell me about these, like, by the way, we sponsored a doubles team. And obviously we're like a small company and we. We obviously are limited with what we can do. We can't be like Djokovic sponsors. But Ben was like, no, they're like this American duo. These young guys are super green, super new, but they are really promising and their matches on. So we should watch it. I was like, oh, great. I had to download ESPN plus because again, like, it wasn't a premiere match. They were playing against the Italian duo, who are ranked number six. So it was like, obviously these guys are going to lose. Right? I bought ESPN plus because I again needed to find the match. It was $12. I'll be venmoing Ben for that expensive spritz.

[A]

And it was just like on basement.

[B]

On in the background while we were watching. I mean, while we were, like, doing bath time, bedtime feedings and stuff. And let me tell you, this match became so insane that they put it on primetime and not our American boys beating those Italian shits. Okay? It was the most insane match. It was the most, like, the biggest upset of the US in, you know, doubles history. They're saying. They are saying that I was on the edge of my seat. These guys are so cute. First of all, 22 and 23. Everybody keeps DMing me. If they're single, I don't know, just message them, like, seriously, slide it. Personally, I have no idea. Slide in. It was the most excited I've, like, literally ever been in my life. They're playing and today me and Ben are going. So while obviously, like, I'm, you know, busy at work, I also. I got to get to the US Open because I am a socialite, and that's what socialites do. To see the boys playing again, another, like, big, you know, they're coming in as the underdogs yeah.

[A]

But the power of Spritz compels them.

[B]

The power splits, but also the power of America, because, like, while they're not super known yet in the tennis community, everybody in the. At the Open was just cheering for them because it's America versus Italy. Like, it's America, bitch. Everyone was chatting USA and these guys, they're like college players who have gone pro, and they're so college. They were, like, hyping up the crowd like you. I thought they were seriously going to funnel a beer like, USA us.

[A]

You mean it's grits.

[B]

Literally. Oh. And then, like, it was so cool. They got interviewed on, like, tennis tv, US Open tv, after they won, and, you know, like, Djokovic puts on his Rolex and his Lululemon hat or whatever. Not them putting on their Spritz hats. It was so exciting. Like, I. I was like, ben, this is the coolest thing you've ever done. Not us just, like, you know, betting on these rando Americans. And look, crushed it. Crush those Italian bucks.

[A]

Yeah. I am excited to see what's in store for them today.

[B]

So make sure to catch their match.

[A]

So if you are a promising athlete who wants to be a Spritz athlete, maybe that's you.

[B]

Also, feel free to watch their match today. It's Cash and Tracy. That's. Those are their last names. I don't know who they're playing. Tracy.

[A]

Tracy from Spidey and is amazing.

[B]

Yeah. So, like, big things happening over in the business world and the sports world.

[A]

Yeah. The world just keeps on turning, you know, like, everything's coming up toast. Everything. Everything's coming up Spritz. Everything's coming down Good Guys. Now that we're back.

[B]

Yes. Yes. Good Guys is over. Party.

[A]

Good Guys is over. Party. Even though, like, where I used to do my makeup in the house is next to the rumor Ben used to record Good Guys, so I inadvertently have listened to so many episodes of Good Guys, the future episodes. It's good, you know, it's.

[B]

Yeah, it's good. It's good.

[A]

Ben has started his sourdough journey.

[B]

Oh, my God. Jackie was, you know, bacon for us all summer. Ben got that.

[A]

Nice of you to say. I really.

[B]

Yeah. You actually didn't.

[A]

I didn't. I'm sorry. I can't stand for longer than five minutes.

[B]

We need to talk about, like, you being pregnant in just one minute. But, yes, Ben started his sourdough journey. He ordered a bread box on Amazon. It arrived this morning, and it arrived unassembled. He was, like, wrenching together it was seriously the craziest thing. He got the baskets, he got the blades, he got the spatula, the fold and serve. Whatever the starter is starting, it's in the corner of our kitchen just like bubbling over in a mason jar.

[A]

He facetimed me last night to show how much his starter had grown and that it was bubbling over and he didn't know what to do. So I was like, just put it in a bowl so it can bubble into the bowl and not on your counter. And he took it away. And there was starter on your wall. He obviously heat it up, but I just knew.

[B]

Sure. There's starter on my wall. There's starter on the counter.

[A]

Is there starter test your marriage also. Not that it matters because you're in an apartment building and you don't own, so it's not your problem. But make sure he's not pouring it down the drain because it, like, clogs the pipes. Like, turns into, like bread in the middle of your pipe.

[B]

Oh, my God. You definitely did.

[A]

But I feel like you have strong pipes out there in the big city.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not like a.

[A]

A small town pipes girl.

[B]

Right, right, right. She got looking forward types having bread. I just do think, like, Ben's gonna give up on it. You know, he loves to start things and not finish them.

[A]

No. And. And Sourdough is a particular personality type. Mine, Taylor's and not bends. So he's gonna have to push himself to stick with it. And it's really like, you have to give it a little bit of your time every day. Like, you have to be very patient. That's not his style. No, but I look forward. I think he loves sandwiches enough to make it his style to persevere. To persevere through. But I do think, you know, the residual starter on the counter is going to test your marriage a thousand percent.

[B]

Although I have let go a little bit. A lot of people want to know, claudia, how are you doing with, like, the mess and the clutter of a baby now? Let me just say I'm crushing it. My house has never been cleaner, but there is more stuff. It's not insane yet, but I've got playmats and bouncers.

[A]

Do you find yet that the stuff is sparks joy?

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you know that playmat doesn't spark joy when you see it?

[B]

No.

[A]

Knowing how happy little Rue is on it?

[B]

No.

[A]

That bassinet doesn't spark joy.

[B]

Oh, my God. I gotta get that bassinet in my room. It really is just taking up too much space. But I'm doing great. I just wanted to say now I want to talk about you really briefly because kind of headline news is that I'm no longer pregnant, which, personality wise, I just feel like, so back to myself. I was just not myself, as Kylie said. But you are pregnant, and I feel like we as women. What?

[A]

I don't know what you're gonna say, but I'm laughing.

[B]

It's just so crazy, like, that we podcast, like, every day while pregnant. Nothing makes you more foul and in, like, a more disgusting fucking mood than waking up every single day. Like, backache, no good sleep, heartburn. And so you're still going through that. And I want to just, like, create a safe space for you, like, if you want to be in a. I feel like I hid my bad moods as good as I could. I definitely, like, if I go back, I could see, like, me being in a bad mood. I just want to create a safe space for you. You feel like you're in a good mood today, and that's great. But if you're not, like, that's okay.

[A]

I just want to say, like, I am having, like, it's been tough. Like, yeah, it's a tough one. We could do, like, a pregnancy update patreon, talk about, you know, all the aches and pains. But what I love about the toast is that it forces me to be in a good mood. Nobody wants to unless, like, it's extreme circumstances. Like, I'm not gonna come on here and just be, like, a curmudgeon. Even though I know that's, like, what people think I'm doing when I think I'm a right of life.

[B]

Okay, that's so real. Like, people are like, are you in a bad mood? And you're like, what am I talking. What are you talking about?

[A]

I was literally.

[B]

I've never been happier.

[A]

Thrilled to bitch.

[B]

I've never, ever been happier.

[A]

But the toy, the toast, like, forces me to, like, be in a good mood, laugh with my sister, like, talk about, like, fun subjects. And I would. I haven't been doing those things for months. And, like, it.

[B]

It does actually affect your mental health.

[A]

Positively in a positive fashion. So, like, I'm actually. I'm very grateful for it in this moment, you know, because otherwise you'll just be, like, sitting, thinking about my pains, and instead, I'm cackling.

[B]

We're just a bunch of cackling hags today. That's the kind of energy you can expect.

[A]

Title.

[B]

And I also think, like, moving forward, how I'm gonna, like, be different in this stage of my life. When it comes to the toast, I've obviously said it's going to affect Dear Toasters, and I just want to let the DTQ know. I know it's Tuesday, but it's our first day back. We have a lot to do. Dear Toasters will be tomorrow, and I promise it will be tomorrow. Just like gerd your loins. It's gonna be amazing.

[A]

I think it was gonna be today, right?

[B]

Like, right. I mean, like, there's. We're like 15 minutes in, and we haven't even scratched the surface.

[A]

We haven't even. We haven't even caught up, like, what doing since we left.

[B]

But I also think the approach I'm taking to the podcast, like, as this, you know, new. I'm definitely a new person, is going to be, like, very much. I don't give a fudge, you know, like, you guys. You guys thought I didn't care before. Like, I really don't care. Oh, you have a problem with something I said? Cry about it. Like, seriously, go cry about it.

[A]

I just want to say, like, so good for entertainment value. So good for business.

[B]

So good for business. Like, I. When you birth a child, like, not to be so condescending. When you birth a child, like, it just kind of puts things in perspective, and it just. At the end of the day, like, it's not that serious. You know what? It never was was that serious. It's just a podcast. So I feel like I have a whole new perspective on just.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Being joyful. And I also know that, like, a lot of our listeners are psalms, and they need us more than we need them. Like, I'm here for you, girl. It's just like, it's just a podcast.

[A]

You know, Let it rip. That's the. For the end of 2025. Is it Q4 yet? Like, I feel like it feels like Q4.

[B]

I'm glad you brought that up, because I've been noticing a lot of people, like, you know, bringing out their pumpkin spice content and ordering hot coffee and chai and pumpkins and things like that. And I feel like it started a week or two ago and everybody's rushing the summer away while it's August. Like, I do not tolerate that type of Internet behavior. And even into September, like, yeah, I'm wearing all white. Labor Day was yesterday. What are you gonna do, arrest me? Like, yeah, I don't like that. And we still have two, three more weeks of summer, and I don't. I really don't like when people do that. Like, they're rushing the summer away. We live for summer. What are you talking about? Summer.

[A]

Summer. Maybe not everyone had a party summer. Like, maybe they were ready to get to the next part. Maybe they were with their sister.

[B]

I did have a summer, but I am fat again. And so I'm not loving summer. Like, I. Like, I have chubb again. Like, all the problems I once had are back. I sweat like an animal because I'm breastfeeding. Like, I sweat more than the average person. So I get it. Like, there are things about summer I don'. I don't like either, but we're just, like, rushing our lives away. You guys just chill.

[A]

Yeah, I sort of just let the process happen to me organically. Like, I feel like soon I will feel like entering fall.

[B]

It sounds like you're gonna let the chips fall.

[A]

Like, I'm not craving a chili yet.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I don't want to go to Home Goods and get a bunch of fall accents.

[B]

I'm actually inspired dishes.

[A]

I'm actually very much in a purge state because since we've come home, I think. I don't know if it's because this is my version of nesting right now or because we just came home from a two month trip where everything that's in this house we did not need.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So when I see it garbage. When I'm cleaning up, I'm not cleaning, I'm garbaging.

[B]

It sounds like you lived with the sweeper for two months and maybe I rubbed off on you a little bit.

[A]

No, it's really like the idea that we didn't need this for two months, so do we need it now?

[B]

Very. It's a very interesting perspective. Right.

[A]

And I actually feel like maybe it is the. The manifestation of how I'm nesting in this pregnancy. I feel like last summer when I got back, I felt inspired to go to Home Goods. That was like, what I remember because I remember, like, the house we were in just had like, so many, like, cute things and I just wanted accoutrements.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now I want nothing.

[B]

Chilling.

[A]

Purge.

[B]

Make it. Make it a quote card.

[A]

Want to go shopping?

[B]

Well, of course, of course. But you have to purge first before you shop.

[A]

No, no, I have to. I'm not gonna shop because then I'm just gonna like, I buy things that I. In six months, I'm going to want to throw away. So. Yeah, we're doing nothing right now.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

And you know what? I'm very hormonal. Like, I can't be out there shopping. So True.

[B]

She's a danger.

[A]

I'm a danger to myself and to others. Yeah. You especially.

[B]

Watch it. 1,000% watch out. And there's also so much to talk about in the world of pop culture. So if you're just tuning in and you have been keeping up with us on Patreon, we did a whole episode about Taylor and Travis's engagement. I'm sure it'll come up today. But if you're looking for like an in depth analysis on the ring, the photo carousel, her outfit, their, you know, future life together, it's on Patreon. It was a live stream. It was so chaotic. It was so crazy. And it was kind of the most fun I had all summer. In addition to other content on Patreon, we've been keeping up with pop culture on Patreon for the last last eight weeks. So it feels good that we don't have to, like, you know, talk about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Love island finale to it.

[A]

Love island reunion. Did you watch Love is Blind? Did you finish UK season?

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

I did.

[B]

It wasn't sparking joy for me. I watched like the first six episodes. It wasn't. It just wasn't it for me.

[A]

I enjoyed it. And there was definitely, like, couples that either didn't get married, like, it was exciting. And then also couple couples did get married and spoiler alert, they're no longer together. And that was, like, very interesting. Yeah. And I felt like. Actually, I don't know if anyone was, like, listening with a keen ear when I recapped Love is Blind on the Patreon, but I nailed it.

[B]

Wow. Okay, so are you going to tell us or how are we going to do this?

[A]

Well, I just feel like I was right about calling sir over. Like, she's my queen right there. And I was like, if he wants to be good enough for her, great. Like, I will like him too. But, like, I just don't know that he is, like, I don't know that he's as locked in as she is. And what she deserves, she deserves the best. Literally couldn't have. That's exactly what happened.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He literally woke up one day and was like, no. So crazy. My faves. Megan and Kieran still together. Like, spark. They're literally the happiest. Of course they're the happiest people on earth and they found each other. Like, I really like them. How is that not gonna work out?

[B]

What about Ashley and Billy?

[A]

They got married, which was kind of surprising because, you know, he's very stringent and they have These issues and then also, like, counts over, like, three months later. He just, like, ended it.

[B]

And he was like, so Helen Sarova did say yes, but then got. But then got divorced.

[A]

Yeah. And same with Billy and Ashley. And what's weird is, like, they both ended it, like, the day after New Year's. After.

[B]

It must be, like, a contract or something.

[A]

No, they're, like, best. They, like, talk to each other. I think they were both, like, feeling the same way. Like, there's no spark and they, like, two idiots telling each other to, like, end their.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

To the greatest women that they'll ever meet.

[B]

And what about Jet and Varda?

[A]

She said no at the altar.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She said, like, not right now. She was like. She was like, I vow to do all of those things eventually. Yeah. And so then when they finished the wedding, they stayed dating, and then they broke up, but they only dated for three weeks. And it was, like, weird. And she was, like, so picked out by.

[B]

Well, I saw a picture of her at the reunion, and she looks like an entirely different person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, glow up of the century.

[A]

Yeah. She definitely, like, hit the O.

[B]

A thousand percent. Love that for her.

[A]

Love that for her. And she's so jealous. She moved to Dubai after she broke up with Jed, like, three weeks later.

[B]

Oh, okay. Caroline Stanberry.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So she's doing well. And then Katisha and Javin, they broke up. Did you watch?

[B]

Yeah. Right, right.

[A]

It was just weird to watch. She was just, like, very, like, I really was rooting for her. But, yeah, she was. She was, like, so forgiving of. I. I didn't get it. I didn't get her energy towards him. None of hate.

[B]

I haven't been watching a ton of TV because I've been, like, such a tennis girly justice for Ben Shelton. And so, yeah, I'm going to the match today. I don't know if I brought that up. I can't wait to have a honey juice, because last summer I went to the US Open, and I was, like, so skinny. So I was obviously conscious of the fact that, like, they're 200 calories each. And so I, like, sipped one. Now I'll be having, like, six tonight. I'm also breastfeeding, so, like, the liquor doesn't really hit me.

[A]

God, you're tank.

[B]

I'm a tank. So take mode. I will be. If you see me, like, and, you know, at the US Open, it's like, you have. The honey juice is the official cocktail of the US Open. And it's, like, a thing they come in these really cute cups with all the winners on them. And when you drink them, you, like, stack them like a frat boy, like, just to count how many you've had. So if you see me at the U.S. open today with, like, the tallest stack of honey deuces you've ever seen in your life, just Nathan, stacks on stacks. Just stay away like I'm on a journey.

[A]

Understood. Well, we're excited to see content. What are you gonna wear?

[B]

I don't know, because I'm so fat.

[A]

You could wear what you're wearing now.

[B]

I know, but it's hot caliente. I literally. When I found out that we were going, the first thing I did was I plugged in my portable fan. Like, I will be needing it. And I'll be bringing a backup charger, maybe an updo. Definitely a claw clip in my purse, you know?

[A]

Yeah. The tennis swags, they love the claw clip.

[B]

And I gotta bring my pump. It's like a whole thing. Living the house. Oh, something a while.

[A]

You can't skip one.

[B]

I can't skip one. I might be gone for two. Like, it's a long thing.

[A]

Are you driving your car?

[B]

See, I don't know, like, logistics. I might need to drive my car because of my pump. Like, how embarrassing am I?

[A]

You need the lv, don't you have.

[B]

I have. I have a portable pump. The Willow.

[A]

Go.

[B]

And, yeah, just, like, bring my case with me. It's like, what do you got there? Oh, just my portable pump.

[A]

But it's okay. Like, I've seen, like, Paige and the girlies. They have, like, big bags. It's not a micro bag thing. Like, you could bring a tote.

[B]

I might need to bring one.

[A]

Yeah, you've got cute totes.

[B]

Yeah, tons.

[A]

Go shopping.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, I guess now.

[B]

I guess pop culture.

[A]

The story's actually really good. And we're gonna. We're gonna rip them to shreds.

[B]

Yeah, of course. I absolutely need to talk about the atrocity trade wreck that is Fifth Harmony. So I guess without further ado.

[A]

Without further ado. That do. That do. Here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.

[B]

And the Fast 5 stories that you need to know are brought to you by a fab new movie that we're really excited. It's called Bow Artist at War. So there's something about a love story that takes your breath away. Not because it's perfect, but because it's impossible. Imagine fighting the person you were meant to be with in the very place designed to destroy you. So imagine Choosing love when everything you had around you was hate. Everything designed to strip away hope. That's not just romance. It's survival. So Bow Artists at War is a holocaust movie. And after we watched it, I can tell you it really, truly stayed with me. At its heart, it's about love. The kind of love that keeps you alive. So Joseph Bao wasn't just a prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp. He was an artist, a dreamer. And a man who risked everything not only to help others escape, but to keep love alive. And then there's Rebecca, whose courage matched his own. Together, their story is proof that even in humanity's darkest hour, love can light the way. By the end, we were in tears. You will be, too. Not just from the sadness, but just from, like, the real beauty of the love story. So Bow Artist at War is directed by the incredible Sean McNamara. It opens only in theaters for a limited run beginning September 26th. So visit bao movie b a u movie.com you can watch a trailer, learn about Joseph and Rebecca's real life journey, and then you'll be able to find showtimes near you. For us, it wasn't just a movie. It was a reminder. A reminder that love isn't fragile. Love is fierce. Love can outlast even the darkest days. Joseph and Rebecca's story prove that. So Bow Artist at War opens September 26th. Visit bow movie.com to watch the trailer and learn more or sign up your organization for a group screening. Again, that's b a u movie.com Today's episode is also brought to you by ASPCA Pet Health Insurance Program. When you have a pet, you love taking care of them because in their own way, they take care of you. But even if you're the best pet parent in the world, unpredictable things can happen. Like remember when Theo, like, low key, got cancer and was dead in two weeks?

[A]

So there's high key, actually.

[B]

Fortunately, you can always give your care boost with ASPCA Pet Health Insurance. So the ASPCA Pet Health Insurance Program offers customizable accident and illness plans, making it easier for pet parents like you to get the help that they may need. So the ASPCA pet health insurance program has been around for over 18 years. They've helped more than 600,000 pets during that time. They allow you to customize your plan, helping ensure that your pet's plan is as unique as they are. Vet bills can really add up, especially when you're least expecting it. It feels so good. I didn't have pet insurance with Theo, which was so crazy. That before Romeo even came home, I signed up for Pet Health Insurance. It's simple. You use their app, you can submit a claim, you'll receive a reimbursement for eligible vet bills and it'll go directly into your bank account. So if you'd like to Explore coverage, visit aspcapetinsurance.com toast that's ASPCA pet insurance.comm/toast. Again, that's ASPCA pet insurance.com/toast when it comes to pets. When it comes to animals, ASPC is the best in the biz. So visit aspc pet insurance.com toast this is a paid advertisement. Insurance is underwritten by either Independence American Insurance Company or United States Fire Insurance Company and produced by PTZ Insurance Agency Ltd. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance. Thank you ASPCA for sponsoring today's episode. Today's episode is also brought to you by Prolon. So swimsuits, sunshine and spontaneous plans. We are still actively in summer, let me remind you. But if you're not feeling it this season, we've got good news. Prolon's five day fast mimicking diet is your summer ready secret weapon. The ultimate tool for metabolism, reset, fat loss, lean muscle protection and more. Prolon delivers a summer glow from the inside out and in just five days is our secret weapon. And it works. So Prolon is a plant based nutrition program and it features soups and snacks, beverages. It's all designed to keep your body in a fasting state. But obviously fasting means no eating or drinking, which is not the vibe. So it's kind of parchy science. They are designed to nourish your body while keeping your body in a state of fasting. So it triggers your cellular rejuvenation and renewal. Next Gen builds on the original prolon with 100% organic soups and teas, a richer taste and ready to eat meals. So it was developed at USC's Longevity Institute for decades. It's backed by the top US medical centers. Prolon has been shown to support biological age reduction, metabolic health, skin appearance, fat loss and energy. It's been loved by celebrities and you know, socialites for years. And you guys can check it out. Prolon is super popular. It's incorporating a subtly updated meal plan it formulates while maintaining the same science back to core technology. If you would like for a limited time to be the first in line to experience a new next gen at special savings, Prolon's offering our listeners 15% off site wide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their five day nutrition program. Prolon life.com toast that's P R O L O N l I f e.com toast to claim your 15 discount and your bonus gift. Prolon life.com toast thank you.

[A]

SL shirt.

[B]

You're welcome.

[A]

Our first story as you teased, it will be the first story. Fifth Harmony reunited for a surprise performance at Jonas Brothers concert in Dallas on Sunday. So the girls, not Camilla, are back together. Fifth Harmony consisted of Normani, Ally Brook, Dinah Jane and Lauren Ji and they hit the do Equis pavilion to perform their hit songs Work from home and worth it at the Jonas Brothers concert.

[B]

Well, Camila Cabello was not there physically. She was there in spirit because their backing vocals are all Camila. She, you know, is, was the, I would say the vocal lead of the band. And this just. Okay. So Ben has been obsessed with the Jonas Brothers tour. Tour. They've been crushing it. They've been doing like real like millennial con. It's just like a festival for millennials.

[A]

It's like nostalgia con.

[B]

Yes. And that's, you know, Ben's obsession with like when they brought out the Click five.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just the girl I'm looking for. Like he was not okay. So every time they have a concert, we wake up in the morning, he's scrolling his phone, he shows me who was there. So he was like, fifth Harmony didn't really do it for him. But he doesn't know. Like before Ben met me, I was the biggest fifth harmony fan. Nobody was more on the fifth harmony train. Lila. So what do you know about Lilas, their original band name? I watch them on X Factor. I followed them religiously on YouTube before they became a band. So I feel like I know everything about everything there is to know about fifth harmony. And if you were there for like their band, their time as a band, the five of them, then you know how truly unique it was and bad all sad to say, like they had really, they just had Camilla and she really shouldn't have ever been placed. That was like a Simon Cowell. They, it was just like a. She never should have been with them. She was so supremely talented. Every time they performed together, all the judges critique was like, you can't keep up with Camilla. Like it was really awkward and it's amazing to see that nothing has changed. And the only thing that really changed since then is that like Normani had all this hype and promise. She was the next Beyonce motivation the album.

[A]

And she also was like, what Is happening.

[B]

What is going. Going on? Like, and then nothing happened. What is happening? Oh, nothing. So it was really crazy to see her with them because she, like. Like Camila, she had something going on after Fifth Harmony, but I guess nothing's.

[A]

Going on, that it's over, that the train has stopped now.

[B]

If you watch a performance, like, it was giving classic Fifth Harmony messiness, like, choreography.

[A]

The choreography was there, execution.

[B]

The cohesion was not. Like, they were all doing different. They were doing the same dance, but it was a different dance to each of them. You know, the outfits were so turned. The vocals were good. The vocals were good, but that was because they had, like, Camila Cabello singing on a track.

[A]

I wasn't hearing, like, live vocals. Not saying that they didn't sing, but, like, what I heard was, like, there was a lot of production, and I think people were really excited about this on its face. Like, Fifth Harmony back together. Jonas Brothers. They crush it again. Nostalgia Con. Here we go.

[B]

When I heard that fifth Harmony was coming back together, I watched a video and there was, like, a smoky fog and silhouettes showed up. I'm like, is it four or five silhouettes? Because it makes a difference in what we're about to see.

[A]

Yeah. No, but, like, I'm just saying, like, on. On paper, like, it's a sleigh. Fifth Harmony reunited, even without Camilla. That's like, of course, you know, like, fine, even without Camilla. Because harmony reunited. They perform the hits. These are some of the greatest songs ever written.

[B]

And, like, yeah, it's a slay work from home.

[A]

But then when you get down into it, it's a nay no.

[B]

Lauren Haregy had, like, the biggest rip in her tights. Like, it was such a mess there. This band. This band is cursed. Like, they are cursed. They are unable to do anything successfully. Like, everything they do is just a mess.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A train wreck. You literally cannot look away.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when they were doing that choreography, I was like, girl, what is going on?

[A]

And I think, like, you know, up until Sunday, like, you could have said, like, fifth Harmony, they had a great run. They had a great run. They had amazing songs.

[B]

They did, and they had so many hits.

[A]

If you were very close to it, like, you knew the messiness, but from afar, like, it looks like just like a successful girl band. One of the best of. Of the 21st century.

[B]

It was kind of like a Monet, you know, from far away, it looked fine. And then you got up close and you were like, oh, no, this is just a bunch of dots. Nuts.

[A]

But them coming back together and reminding us in 2025 that it's a mess.

[B]

Like, how bad they are, I think.

[A]

Is, like, bad for their stock.

[B]

And they're not good, like, collaborators, you know, like, with the Jonas Brothers, like, it was just. I will say, of all the things the Jonas Brothers and I said this on the Patreon, and it bears repeating because I've clowned on the Jonas Brothers a little bit. I feel like for so long, they were, like, really hesitant to lean into what they are and what their fan base is, which is they have amazing new music, but it's a lot of nostalgia. And I think they're so leaning in now, and it's really working for them. They're just, like, being themselves. And the guests that have come out, most of them have been nostalgic. Some of them have been like, Kelsey Ballerina was there, like, current pop Russell Dickerson. This is the first one that just was a flop. But it gave us so much content that, like, it wasn't a flop.

[A]

No, they wouldn't even consider it a flop because it's like, it's a great headlines. It's great news. It's just like, when you actually watch it and it doesn't reflect poorly on the Jonas Brothers, like, they're out there shaking that thing. Like, this was up to the girls.

[B]

When you, you know, get down to brass tacks, all I see is the rip in Lauren Heragi's leggings. Ally, Brooke, and I love her. She just cannot keep up choreographically. And I just feel sadness for Normani for what could have been. But I also feel justice for Dinah Jane because when Ben and I were talking about this last night, I sent him on a rabbit hole. I made him watch their first performance together as a band at Simon Cowell's house in front of Mark Anthony, where, like, Mark Anthony cannot believe how good of a singer Camila Cabello is. I made him watch Anything Could Happen cover, and then I also made him watch Lego House cover, and, like, if you know what I'm talking about, you know, and he was like, wow, Camilla's so good. But honestly, justice for Dinah Jane. When we were all, like, young, Dinah Jane was just, like. She was just, like, not relatable. And I don't think, like, her singing abilities ever really got highlighted, but she's actually an amazing singer.

[A]

Yeah. I think for Normani, she had a good performance, like, because she is a talent. She's talented. But the fact that she was even there, it didn't matter what she did on the stage. The fact that she got on the stage in that context just marks the end. I think we're.

[B]

End of Normani.

[A]

We're gonna call it on Normani.

[B]

It's true. We're calling.

[A]

Can we call it and say that she's not the next Beyonce?

[B]

We can say that. I think we can. Now. I think there's also a lot of discourse on whether Camilla should have showed up or not. Because Camilla is also, like, relatively flopping. She had a really, really strong solo career for a few years. Havana, like, the biggest songs. Grammy, Grammy, Grammy. And then she dyed her hair blonde and things just went south. And I don't think she's really been, like, churning out hits, but I don't think she's even close to fallen as far as to getting back together with her turn bandmates.

[A]

No. And when I think about Camilla, the way that I see her, and I know she just put out an album that I'm sure wanted to perform well and it didn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I do feel like she walked away from a lot of what she. The success she was experiencing. Like, I feel like it wasn't just that she was dropped, like, from. By fans and, you know, people stopped caring about her. I felt like it felt like a choice. That's how I see it. And now she wants to come back, and it's hard to get back in the game.

[B]

It is.

[A]

But I don't think she's, like, someone that's, like, so thirsty to be the number one girl in this group. I don't think it was.

[B]

I agree. But the crazy thing is. And she doesn't get enough credit. Camila Cabello is one of the top vocalists of our generation. I would say she's on the same level. I know you're gonna say I'm crazy as Ariana Grande. She has the most amazing voice, and she doesn't get enough credit for that because she's, like, flopping. And she dyed her hair blonde, which she never should have done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Reminds me a lot of Katy Perry.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Like where a haircut just sort of, like, ruined everything.

[A]

I don't think of the haircut. I think it was like, you know those walks with Shawn Mendes?

[B]

The walks with Shawn Mendes. I forgot about those.

[A]

Like, when I think about, like, where it all changed, those walks.

[B]

But I love you when you call me sen. Like, she had so many hits, huh?

[A]

The biggest songs.

[B]

The biggest songs.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now where is she? I don't know, actually. I saw she's on tour. She did a cover of Nothing's fine. I'm torn. I'm a lot of faith. Let me tell you his most amazing cover. She's like a Kelly Clarkson. She covers a song and absolutely, like, makes it her own.

[A]

That's really beautiful. I'm happy for the Jonas Brothers, because this is, like, in the tour, in this day and age, like, this is what you want. People waking up every morning saying, what happened at the concert last night?

[B]

Surprise song.

[A]

You would think, like, bringing out special guests. Taylor did it in 1989. Like, old news. But the way that they're doing it, they got it down. They must be thrilled to bits.

[B]

Can I say you also inspired me, because when we were together in the Hamptons, you said, like, one of my goals is, like, I want to go to more concerts. The concerts make me so happy. I love concerts. And I was like, yeah. And especially now, like, I need to really make the most of my nights out, you know, after bedtime. So I'm gonna go to Lady Gaga. She's doing, like, six nights in the city, and I think the last two are this week. And I'm gonna go like it. I'm going.

[A]

You know, you are familiar enough with I.

[B]

Am I.

[A]

What's that album called?

[B]

Monster With Mayhem.

[A]

Mayhem, yes.

[B]

I looked up a set list, too, and she's doing, like, it's because she did a residency in Vegas. It's very much, like, encapsulates her entire discography. And she plays the hits from Mayhem, and of course, I know them, you know, disease. But she does a surprise song, and in the last New York show, she did you and I, which means, like, I'm not gonna get you and I. And, like, I want to kill myself. I like that song. Oh, my God. If you give me a shot of tequila in a karaoke bar, like, you're gonna get the show of a lifetime.

[A]

Or so you think, until you watch the video back the next day. So true.

[B]

Said, sit back down where you belong in the corner of my bar with your high heels on. And she was like, obviously being so Lady Gaga. So Stephanie Germanata, like, wait. She's like something. Something about New York City. Like, she was eating something so nutty. It was amazing.

[A]

She's so crazy.

[B]

She's nuts.

[A]

You forget. But we have to remember that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you talk about her.

[B]

Yes. You have to look at it through the lens. Like, okay, if a normal person was doing this, I would say A, but it's Lady Gaga, and she's certifiably crazy. So we have to say B, and.

[A]

She'S like a crazy artist, but she's like a genius. So you.

[B]

She's a genius.

[A]

Yeah. No, you just, you can't, like, put normal people, like, the way you would talk to your bestie right to About Lady Gaga.

[B]

It's true. Special gloves.

[A]

Special gloves. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Little weddings news, because Jason Kelsey is talking about the engagement and he's hoping to be Travis's best man at the wedding. So he said Trav has a lot of friends, so he's a little worried about his spot as best man. But he said, hopefully, I'm the best man. We'll see. Travis, a lot of friends. I'm just hoping to get the opportunity. So he went on a podcast busing.

[B]

Busing with the boys.

[A]

And talked a lot about Taylor and Travis's relationship. The podcast with new heights, the engagement. Like, how happy he is for Travy. He's so glad is Travy made it to the big game. It was really beautiful. Really?

[B]

It was really beautiful. I love how much they love podcasts. Like, I cannot stress enough what they've done for the medium is really beautiful. And it got me thinking, obviously, when he said Travis has a lot of friends, it's obviously a joke, like, he's going to be the best man. But where does someone like Travis go on a bachelor party? Like, for real?

[A]

I feel like actually Travis will have an easy. Like, where does someone like Taylor go on a bachelor party? Because I feel like for Travis, as long as guys, boys and guy's beer. No, because.

[B]

No, no. I think it's harder for Travis because Taylor's, like, not going to go on a bachelorette party. She's going to, like, have all of her friends over for the weekend to her Rhode island house, and they're going to, like, make sourdough. Like, Taylor's not, like, a party girl like Travis. Like, he's a football bear and like, golf. I feel like they're gonna go to, like, Baker's Bay, that island in the Bahamas.

[A]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[B]

Where, like, famous people go.

[A]

I like more like in Cabo.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I asked you that question because, like, I just wanted to put my prediction out there for where they're gonna go. And I think Taylor's gonna do something really low key, like a girl's night at one of her houses.

[A]

No, she needs to do more than that. Sorry.

[B]

Like haim in the swirlies. And then we'll really be able to know who her friends are. Like, because Kelly Taylor probably will not be there. Blake Lively probably will not be there. It'll be like Selena. Even though Taylor didn't go to Selena's bachelorette party this weekend. Selena. Hay. That girl Ashley, like, Cara. Cara. Yeah. Cara's tried and true.

[A]

Yeah. I think she'll do more than that. And I think that she should. This is worth celebrating. Plus, she, like, kind of likes to get down.

[B]

Well, she does love a cocktail.

[A]

Yeah. Like, why can't she go to Cabo with the girls?

[B]

It's like she can't go anywhere. Even though, like, lately she's been so regular. Degular. I actually saw a picture. She went out to dinner with Brittany Homes at a restaurant in Nashville. Like, no private room. Like, just a dinner.

[A]

It was Britney's birthday.

[B]

Oh, Happy birthday to Britney.

[A]

Yeah. So she turned 30. Mazel tov.

[B]

Oh, my God. It's crazy. She has three kids. Like, that's so crazy.

[A]

So I think. I think Jason will be the best man, especially because he has so many friends. Because when you have so many friends, you can't pick one. Let's do the brother. But if I had, like, just one best friend, I think Jason is good.

[B]

Okay. Jason, by the way, and don't forget Austin, Taylor's brother. That's like, when you get married, you.

[A]

Have to, like, match a party, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I think that, like, that'll also make him a best man as, like, a sign of, you know, family that. Now that I see your brother as my brother.

[A]

But I also.

[B]

Is it enough?

[A]

The way that we're talking and the world is talking about, like, Taylor and Travis, I feel like when they first got engaged, it was like, just an engagement, but now it's like, like road to wedding.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a difference. Some people get engaged and it's like, well, we don't ever expect you to have a wedding. Like, it just feels like a.

[B]

A performative.

[A]

Yeah, we're just like a kind of a dead end. Like, it's like a nice thing, but, like, it's not about getting married. It's about getting engaged.

[B]

Kind of like Demi and that guy Max.

[A]

Your. Your boy Max.

[B]

Yeah, your boy Max.

[A]

But, like, this really feels like everyone's talking about the wedding, even Jason.

[B]

No, it's really. And I know people are going to say I'm so crazy and delusional. It is the closest thing in America that we have to, like, a royal wedding. And it's so crazy that it won't be televised. Like, how the royal wedding in the UK is because we deserve it. Like, it should be on cbs.

[A]

Well, she should, like, partner with Disney plus or Hulu or whoever she's working with and, like, give us a docu series about the wedding.

[B]

She should. But Taylor maintains, like, it's just one of her, like, core tenants, that her private life remains private. You know, like, that's not something she's willing to give up.

[A]

That's in her philosophy. Like, before Travis. Like, this is just. Everything's different now. She could bring in her own, like, videographers. Just, like, you have a video at your wedding.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And just, like, bring us in. Everyone is so excited. Like, unprecedented excitement. I think that people deserve it, and the world needs it.

[B]

It. It's literally too much. Like, I don't know what to do with myself.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's just so unprecedented.

[B]

You know, Sabrina should be at the bachelorette party.

[A]

Brainy. Yeah. She'll bring the penis straws.

[B]

Can we talk about. She'll bring the penis. She'll bring the strap on. She's so crazy. I was listening to her new album, which I have to say, I love. I've been seeing hate for it, and, like, you're not gonna hear it for me. Like, that song Go, Go Juice. Like, I'm just, like, shaking my titties. Like, it's so good. But I was listening to the song Tears, and I just had to clutch my pearls, and I'm not really, like, a prude person. Tommy from Arkansas, literally, Like, I was. When she was like, my thighs are crying tears. I was like, oh, my God. And then she says something about, like, giving head. I'm like, oh, ma', am. I never. I was just shook. I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying I was personally shook.

[A]

I have been sounding the alarm on Raunchy Breen for a while. Like, I know that. Like, that she has this in here, and.

[B]

And.

[A]

And she wants to do more of this. Like, I didn't. She's always been about, like, innuendo. But you know what? There are only so many ways that you can.

[B]

No, it's true. She's dropped the innuendo, and she's just being extremely direct and clear. Like, hey, sex. You know, clitoris, penis. Like, she's being really crazy.

[A]

I've. I've started the album a couple times, but I've just, like, been distracted, so I haven't finished it. And so, like, I haven't had my faves yet. Like, I haven't finished exploring it, so I don't have anything to share yet.

[B]

It.

[A]

But brini's being green and she's being very, like, direct. That if, if you find it to be too much or you find it to be, like, too explicit, like, go yourself. Yeah.

[B]

She's like, standing her love island. People would say, like, 10 toes down. Standing on business. She's not. And I really do respect people who, like, say what they mean and mean what they say and just because there's backlash. Oh, I'm sorry. Like, no, I like that even. It's not like how I would choose to write a song. I like people who, like, stand on business. I guess that's what the kids say. Like, she's not backing down or she's just doubling down. Like, no, this is what I wanted to say and I'm saying it.

[A]

Yeah. Even if it, like, splits my audience in half. And I'm going with this half. Like, okay, so there we are.

[B]

In this day and age, it's so rare that somebody, like, gets backlash and isn't like, I'm sorry. Like, no, she's like, oh, well, that sucks. Sorry. Like, too bad.

[A]

She's gonna be the artist she wants to be.

[B]

I respect that.

[A]

So let's see. I haven't, I. I can't call it yet, like, where I stand on the other. I know people are very curious because I'm very much a pearl clutcher and I'm very much a breener.

[B]

A breener. Yep.

[A]

What happens to me? Do I go by the way of Tommy from Arkansas? Am I Tommy from Arkansas?

[B]

Stay tuned.

[A]

Jack's from Florida.

[B]

Stay tuned.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story?

[B]

What number is it?

[A]

Number three. So you got to be ready.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Harry Styles and Carol break the Internet after being photographed together at a wedding. So there was a big wedding this weekend.

[B]

And it's funny because, like, the grooms were not famous. So everybody has very slowly been piecing together who the grooms, who, what, when, where, why, how. And it's like I saw a post of Derek Blasberg and I was like, oh, this is the wedding Aaron Foster was at. Like, I was connecting all the dots just from people I follow. And I finally realized, like, the, the big picture. Derek Glassberg's carousel added a lot of color.

[A]

Understood. So Charles Porch and Robert Denning got married this weekend and they.

[B]

Charles Porch is like a big important person at Instagram and the other groom is a very important person at the Met Museum Met Gala.

[A]

So they have a lot of friends in high places who stood up for their.

[B]

It was a star studded affair, including.

[A]

Harry Styles, which is mage and Carol Radswell, which is major. He happened to help her walk up the stairs, and there's this photo going viral.

[B]

Was it Derek Blasberg's carousel where this photo originated and the story behind it? In the caption? I believe it was. No.

[A]

Cassandra Gray wrote it. She said, I saw Kyle Radswell struggling to get her rather large GM Batista Valley Paris dress up the grand stairwell, naturally. And quickly, I managed to get my iPhone out of my dinner clutch to document what could have been fashion. Parisian castle, road skill, roadkill.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Then a stranger to Carol and I, a handsome Harry Styles, seemingly out of nowhere, graciously lent her his arm like Cinderella's prince. Is this girl a writer? Like, she.

[B]

I think she remember. Is this because, you know, Jenna Lyons was there also with her wife, whose name is Cass. Okay, Is that who this is? Let's Google, because I imagine that, like, the Bravo swirlies would be together.

[A]

You think? But there's from. I guess. Yeah, maybe for the same franchise. She is the founder of Violet Gray, a luxury beauty.

[B]

So, no, that's not her.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's just crazy. And let me tell you something about Cassandra Gray. She is a good friend because, like, no one would believe Carol Radzell. Like, Harry Styles helped me up the stairs with my dress. Like, sure, Grandma, let's get you back to bed. But the fact that this woman snapped a photo, like, she's such a good friend. Like, if that was me, if I was Carol, I would be kissing. And then it, like, becomes a worldwide story because you posted it. Not only did you take it, but you posted it so I don't look thirsty. Like, yeah, this woman, Cassandra is a queen.

[A]

Yeah, she's a real one.

[B]

Big time.

[A]

Yeah. No, that's hysterical. Really funny. Worlds colliding.

[B]

And by the way, Carol looked great. Carol also made a return to watch what Happens Live while we were on maternity leave and shook the Bravo community by storm because, like, there was definitely bad blood between her and Andy. And Andy took Bethany side at the reunion, and then she, like, yelled at Andy, and I got fired. Then I next week, which is awkward because they were friends before Housewives, and it was just, like, awkward, but it seems like there was a ripple. And that's great.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

Lovely.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story? No, I don't think you are.

[B]

Is it our next story that's brought to you by Armor Colostrum? Not me endorsing Colostrum. And I've recently produced my own Colostrum. Yes. I've recently produced my own Colostrum. Colostrum is, is fabulous by the way. It's the first thing you eat at birth. It's like, it's kind of like a pasty breast milk and it is so nutrient dense. It is like the most part delicious substance. And Armor Colostrum is a proprietary premium bovine colostrum concentrate. It leverages proprietary cold chain biopent pasteurization technology to preserve colostrums over 400 bioactive nutrients in their purest, most bioavailable form. It's unlike any other product available. If you like us, are always on the lookout for ways to strengthen your immunity, your gut health, improve your fitness metabolism, enhance your skin and hair radiance. Well, we've recently discovered an incredible product in Armor Colostrum. So you've probably heard a lot about them by now. Everyone talks about it, everybody takes it. It's the best kept secret of the industry for a while. It's finally getting out and for good reason. Armor Colostrum is everywhere these days and when I first heard about it, I thought it was too good to be true. But thousands and thousands of people are reporting absolutely transformational health benefits. They have tens of thousands of five star reviews and life changing stories. Whether you're looking to strengthen your immunity, fortify your gut health, ignite your metabolism, revitalize your hair growth, enhance your skin radiance, or fuel your performance and recovery, check out Armor and we've worked out a special offer for our audience to receive 15 off your first order when you go to tryarmora.com toast or just enter code toast to get 15 off your first order. That's T-R-Y-A R M R A.com toast for 15 off your first order. Today's episode is also brought to you by Home Chef. As summer winds down and the chaos of back to school season ramps up, are your healthy eating habits slipping due to convenience? Well, if you want to skip expensive takeout and unhealthy options, Home Chef delivers fresh ingredients and delicious meals directly to you. So save money and simplify your routine with flavorful meals everyone will love. Home Chef delivers fresh ingredients and Chef designed recipes conveniently to your doorstep to simplify your cooking experience. So whether you're looking to cook more because it's more financially smart, it's healthier, better for you, or you just want to like learn how to cook because you, like me, don't know how to do anything. Users of leading meal kits have rated Home Chef number one in quality, convenience, value, taste, and recipes. So whether you prefer classic meal kits with pre proportioned ingredients, which is great for idiots like myself, they have quick 30 minute recipes, oven ready options, microwave meals, a dedicated family menu. They have everything you and your family need for hassle free delicious dinners. They have over 30 options a week and they serve a variety of dietary needs. Plus it's economical. Their customers save an average of $86 per month on groceries. For a limited time, Home Chef is offering our listeners 50% off in free shipping on your first box plus free dessert for life. Go to home chef.com toast that's home chef.com toast for 50 off your first box and free dessert for life. Home Chef H O M E c h e f.com toast home chef.com t o a S T you must be an active subscriber to receive the free dessert. Go to homechef.com toast for that offer. Today's episode is also brought to you by Roback. So let's take a second to talk about Roback. They recently launched something new and it's honestly one of the best drops that make you want to clean out your entire closet and start over. It's called the Vista Collection and yes, it's their first ever crack at leggings, but they did not miss. So leggings is like an art. It's a science. You want to look good, you want to feel sucked in, you want to lift that tushy, smooth that cellulite. These leggings are buttery soft. They're so soft you forget you don't even have pants on. They're high waisted, which I love. They're supportive but not compressing and they somehow hit that rare balance between structured and flexible. You know how most leggings either slide down on the saborus when your thighs start to touch, so they either slide down litter like or they cut you off in like a weird place. These don't they just work? They come in three colors. Black flag blue, which is like a purpley blue color and a really nice soft green that's perfect for this time of year. Perfect for the redhead in your life. Here's the best part. They didn't just drop leggings and call it a day. They launched matching bra tops and layering pieces to go with them so you can throw on a full set with a half zip or jacket feel really put together. So if you're looking for a fall reset, something that's functional, flattering and just easy, check out the Vista Collection from Roback. It's one of those pieces that quality becomes your favorite, quietly becomes your favorite. Excuse me. Use code toastroback.com for a generous 20 off your first order through the end of this week. That's Roback R-H O B A C-K.com our code is TOAST T O A S T. It'll get you 20% off your first order through the end of this week. Today's episode is also brought to you by Squarespace, the all in one website platform where you can really just get something up and running extremely quickly. It's the perfect place for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online. So whether you're just starting out or you're managing a growing brand, Squarespace makes it easy to create a beautiful website, engage with your audience and sell anything from products to content to time, own and place. And all on your terms. So there's so many reasons why Squarespace is the Paris when it comes to website building. They use design intelligence, which combines two decades of industry leading design expertise with cutting edge AI technology to unlock your strongest creative potential. Design intelligence empowers anyone to build a beautiful, more personalized website tailored to their unique needs and it helps you craft a bespoke digital identity to use across one's entire online presence. They also offer Squarespace Payments, which is the easiest way to manage your payments all in one place. The onboarding is really fast and simple. You can get started in just a few clicks. You'll be able to receive payments right away. You'll also give your customers more ways to pay. They have popular payment methods like Klarna, Ach, Direct Debit, Apple Pay after Pay and Clear Pay. If you live in the uk, you can connect your social media accounts. You can get started really quickly. You can sell content, you can sell your SEO tools. Really whatever it is that you're looking for to create a website. If you're trying to create like a digital portfolio, if you're a graphic designer, a photographer, they've got you covered. Go to squarespace.com for a free trial when you're ready to launch. Go to squarespace.com toast you'll save 10 off your first purchase of a website or a domain. Go to squarespace.com for a free trial when you're ready to launch squarespace.com toast will save you 10 off your first purchase of a website or a domain.

[A]

Thank you Turd site.

[B]

You're welcome.

[A]

Our next story is a rumor that we need to discuss because it's taking the world by storm. A little new couple news I'm Ready?

[B]

Sorry, I was just, like, checking on, you know, napped and everything.

[A]

I understand. You don't get the ad break like I do.

[B]

Oh, slay.

[A]

Napping.

[B]

Napping plane. 14 minutes ago. Love that.

[A]

On his king new couple news. Allegedly Scooter Braun and Sydney Sweeney are rumored to be dating after being spotted together in Italy. Star magazine is reporting this. Everyone is picking it up, and no one has come out to deny it.

[B]

I know. It's just tough because a celebrity being with another celebrity in Europe over the summer means nothing. Like, they all go. They're all on boats. They're all at clubs. And then, like, they just, like, connect with one another because they're famous. Like, it doesn't mean much. If I saw them together in the States, I would feel a lot differently.

[A]

However, videos are resurfacing from the Venice Sanchez Bezos wedding weekend where they both were in attendance. They were both in attendance. There was, like, a day of shopping out in the streets of Venice, and a bunch of, like, stars went walking together, including, like, Sydney, Carly, Scooter, or.

[B]

But they had lost in the mix because there were so many people.

[A]

I think that's. If they are dating now. That's where they met. And now it's been, like, two months. So now they would be, like, dating more seriously, or they just know each.

[B]

Other because they went shopping together at that wedding one time, you know?

[A]

Yeah, but, like, where are these rumors of dating coming from? And no one's coming out to dispel it. She doesn't then get seen with Glenn Powell to be like. Like, you know, using him again to be like, I'm single.

[B]

I don't know. I just, like, I. I mean, I said this about Taylor and Travis, too. So, like, seriously, don't take anything I say seriously. I just don't feel like they're dating.

[A]

I. I don't believe it because it's, like, almost too good to be true. I think it's such a cute couple, and I would ship so hard. She's so, like, every time she does something, it's just, like, not what you think she's gonna do.

[B]

I just think she dates weird people. So, like, her dating, like, a handsome billionaire is, like, too obvious, you know? Like, no, I think I'll go for, like, an ugly homeless person. You know? She dates, like, the weirdest people, and she's Sydney Sweeney. Right. So you would think, like, the hottest. She would date, like, Harry Styles, like, the most.

[A]

No, she was not. She will not date Harry, but she goes rogue.

[B]

So I think this, like, Wealthy businessman, like, makes too much sense for her.

[A]

Yeah, well, she does like a businessman. She does. A former fiance. I don't know if there was wealth attached to it, so maybe she. I don't think so. I like someone who works in business.

[B]

But maybe this time their business could be successful.

[A]

I want the money part.

[B]

Right. Don't we all, sister. Get in line.

[A]

I think it's cute. I hope it's true. I don't know if they're otp, but, like, for summer fling, like, that's hysterical.

[B]

It's a cute summer fling. I feel like there was a brief period this year where we talked about Sydney Sweeney's, like, dating life extensively when she was in the process of calling off her wedding. And I said it then, and I'll say it again, and I don't want to repeat myself, but, like, seriously, until she does something, it's. There's always speculation. It's like, Glenn Powell would have been great, but it was just fake and not real. Like, annoying. This. I don't know if it's real. The only real one I know is Covino and Barnes. Whatever his name was.

[A]

Jonathan Divino.

[B]

Is that not what I said?

[A]

No, it's the same tomato, tomato.

[B]

Until she, like, confirm. Really does something exciting. Like, I can't. I can't wait for her. Waiting for you is like waiting for rain in this drought.

[A]

Yeah. So you just don't want to, like, get excited or.

[B]

I don't want to get on board. And the one time I did get on board with Glenn Powell, like, it was so fake.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That's another one. I need Glenn Powell to date someone, like, stat.

[A]

Yeah. What's he up to? He was, like, at a college football.

[B]

Doing football, wearing a christen use check jersey. He's, like, really hot. Like, why don't you just, like, bring a girl with you? You know, like a hot one. I hate when people, like, don't have girlfriends.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, he was in a relationship for a long time, but it's time.

[B]

So I agree that. I like that he didn't, like, jump right into something new. And even with the Sydney Sweeney thing, I was like, well, this is cute, but he did just break off. I think they were engaged or, like, they were engaged to be engaged. It was, like, a really serious relationship, so I like that he didn't jump into something so quickly. But. Okay. Like, let's go.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens. Like, time will tell.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just like all things. Our fifth and final story is a little big Fashion news, because.

[B]

Okay, just a couple of fascists.

[A]

The new editor of American Vogue has been selected. Allegedly. Anna Wintour is tapping Chloe Ma as the new editor of American Vogue. So this hasn't been officially announced, but everyone is reporting that she is next in line.

[B]

And when Anna stepped down, this is like who people were saying was the next one. So I feel like it's all but confirmed.

[A]

Yeah. It feels like. Right. A little, I guess, surprising because she's younger than I would have thought. But I think Anna started this job at a similar age. And it's a job that you grow into.

[B]

Right. It's a job you have for a while. And I think they could desperately use someone young. I feel like it's felt like the magazine was run by old people for quite some time. And there's a really very delicate way to like, blend new and old. And sometimes people go too hard and it's like, why is Vogue being so Gen Z? So hopefully she's got that magic touch. She's also a Nepo baby, which I find more interesting. Her mom is Candace Bergen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who is. I know her famous actress Geniality. She's the pageant master.

[A]

Everyone knows. Everyone's seen her in at least one thing. She's a famous actress.

[B]

She's in everything. She's also on watch. Happens live all the time. She also plays a Vogue editor in Sex in the City.

[A]

Yeah. Which is just kismet.

[B]

And I think she herself is an EPO baby as well. So it's just like a multi generational thing.

[A]

Yeah. And then her dad is a director for Ms. Mall, which it would explain how she got into Vogue in the first place. But not like. I think at this point, you don't.

[B]

Get to be the next Ada Wintour by being Nepo. Like, she's probably got plenty of people who are born. She got her job for being Nepo, but she. I would say she earned it.

[A]

Yeah. She's been working at Vogue since 2011. She started. It's like a social editor.

[B]

A social media editor. Like, okay.

[A]

Yeah, no, I actually, I. I don't know her at all. I don't know, like, what her taste is or whatever, but just on a table space. I think this is a great choice one, because it's a choice. We're not picking three people who will be interim editor in chiefs. And then in five years.

[B]

Who did Jenna end up choosing? Nobody. Right. Who's.

[A]

Oh, no one yet. Right.

[B]

The Today show.

[A]

Right. So I think.

[B]

And Huda. Huda. I'm cracking up. I'M watching too much Love Island. Hoda Hoda left in December.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Like, that's nuts.

[A]

Give me a choice. I love a choice. This person is obviously qualified. She has the chops. It's very similar to Anna's own career. And I think it's really great. The only thing that was interesting was for a second people were saying that Victoria Beckham was up for it and that she would be a good fit. And I do would have loved to see that same.

[B]

But I don't think you can become an editor of a magazine if you've never worked at a magazine. Like, I do feel like that's just kind of like a bare minimum requirement. And while I love her and like she knows a lot about fashion, I do think there's more to the job than that.

[A]

I agree. I agree with that. But that was really interesting.

[B]

She would be like British Vogue.

[A]

No, she would be a me at. And the one hand, yes, you need to know the business of a magazine, but she does know business. She has her own companies and she could learn. Maybe she's a quick study. But you just need impeccable taste for this job. Like the best taste in the world, which I think she has. It just would have been really fun. But I'm. I'm not. I didn't expect it.

[B]

It. I agree. That's really crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Could you imagine to go from a Spice Girl to the editor in chief of Vogue?

[B]

And I don't know if we talked about it on the Patreon, but the Beckham Peltz's renewed their vows and only the Peltzes were invited. So like, things are worse than ever.

[A]

No, it was really crazy. They couldn't have had a bigger wedding more more recently and they had to have another wedding.

[B]

It's a little wasteful not to be like such a narc, but it is kind of.

[A]

And also like, like weird. Like it's weird to renew your vows, especially with it, like less than, I'm gonna say 20 years.

[B]

The vibe that I got was that like Nicola feels Victoria ruined her wedding, so they redid it.

[A]

And she wants everyone to know that, which I don't like.

[B]

She posted a million pictures of her family at the affair.

[A]

The rumors have been swirling. No one confirms anything that Victoria. That the wedding was the big breakus. Victoria ruined the wedding.

[B]

And it's. It's all speculation.

[A]

It's all cooler when no one says anything. You don't air your dirty laundry. Like, these are all like important wealthy families. Like, it's just like Ugly. And so for her to do that, it's just, like, really confirming everything that we think. And I just feel like they're all better than that. Like, let us wonder.

[B]

And I just saw something funny that Chloe Grace Moretz got married.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I completely forgot about her.

[A]

But didn't she date Brooklyn.

[B]

Brooklyn Beckham for, like, a really long time?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She married a woman.

[A]

I saw she wore blue.

[B]

She wore blue. The comments were ripping her up. But, like, if she wants to wear blue, like, wear blue.

[A]

Do you think she was gonna wear white?

[B]

I actually would have. She's like, a Louis Vuitton face. She's, like, a very fashionable girl. So, like, I just would have assumed she wore, like, a. Yeah, a white wedding dress.

[A]

But she's like, she has to be different.

[B]

You know, Different.

[A]

And I actually felt like the color of the blue. Like, of course I'm a person who's gonna encourage people wear white to their wedding, but she's crazy. Like, I thought the color of the blue was, like, really nice, and I was, like, not offended by her choice. Like, I was happy for her, and she seemed happy, and that worked for me. So if, like, that. If it works for me, like, I don't know how. Anyone else have a problem with it. Do you know what it means?

[B]

Yeah, of course. What are you complaining about? I'm fine. I'm a tough cookie. Speaking of cookie, what are you gonna have for lunch?

[A]

I hadn't given it any thought yet, honestly. And I feel crazy. I feel wholly unprepared for lunch. What about you?

[B]

I don't know, but I'm definitely feeling like a cookie will be a part of it.

[A]

I need hardy.

[B]

Yeah, no, of course.

[A]

Oh, I'm so imprinted. I don't have sourdough. I didn't place an order for anything to arrive. Like, I'm gonna starve.

[B]

I just think I'm gonna make myself, like, a party lunch. I feel like, as a working mom, I need to be, like, making good lunches. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. Are you gonna pack lunch?

[B]

No, Ill, like, whatever I pack would be disgusting, and then I would open it up. I know if I ever, like, attempted to pack lunch by the time lunchtime rolled around and I opened this, like, lunch, I'd be, like, kidding. Like, no, I think I'll go out.

[A]

No, I feel like there's a way to do it. Right. Well, first of all, I don't like my foods touching, so I would need, like, a different box for everything.

[B]

A bento box?

[A]

No, no, but, like, I don't want them in the same airspace either. I need multiple bento boxes.

[B]

Fragrance is real.

[A]

Yeah, of course fragrance is real. But there are things that pack nicely. Like, I. You're gonna vomit. But I like pasta salad. I think that would be really nice in my bento lunchbox. Not like macaroni salad, but like, you know, like pesto pasta. Like cold pasta.

[B]

I'm not stupid. Pasta salad.

[A]

But like, you didn't have to go cross eyed.

[B]

But you're not, like, suggesting that I pack a pasta.

[A]

Sorry, I was centering myself and saying what would sound good in my bento box.

[B]

Box. Yeah, I would. My bento box would be a little different. There would be, like, an uncrustable. It would be like RFK's nightmare. An uncrustable. It'd be like a turdy lunchable.

[A]

Yeah, but by the way, you don't need a box for that. It all comes in packages. You just need a plastic bag.

[B]

You know, I'd leave the bag. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Everything I need is, like, individually wrapped.

[A]

But, like, Ben could make you, like, a turkey sandwich with his new bread.

[B]

Yeah. But I feel like now I feel like as a working mom, I'll be going home for lunch.

[A]

That's nice that you have to nurse.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

And then back to work. I'm actually going back to work this afternoon. We're recording redheads today. I think I haven't finished the book yet. Stay tuned.

[B]

Oh, that's so crazy.

[A]

Stay tuned for updates.

[B]

Well, things we did that I had a blast. I had the time of my life. And I know it's only an hour and 10, and people are gonna be like, that's so short. But I do want to get it up. I want to get people, like, back on routine.

[A]

Yeah, I completely agree. An hour 10 is, like, not so short. So.

[B]

And we got done everything we needed to get done. We didn't dilly dally. I feel good. And like, let's deliver this episode.

[A]

The main points correct. Like, TV recaps. Your toasters can come throughout the week.

[B]

Yeah, of course. I need to finish the summer I turn pretty. So, like, we'll do that.

[A]

I've been watching Real Housewives of Miami because we started it together. So whenever I, like, have some down time and I was, like, procrastinating, picking up the redheads book. I was watching real houses in Miami.

[B]

Love that.

[A]

So one day, I'll tell you what I think, think.

[B]

Thank you so much for listening to the toast Monday morning show. We deliver the fastest stories. You need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available pockets and replicas. Be found Spotify Tunes all places. Webcast. Beautiful but stunning about how wickedly talented we are.

[A]

Love you.

[B]

Bye.