Club Cooke: Wednesday, May 13th, 2026

Summary

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The Toast – Club Cooke: Wednesday, May 13th, 2026

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Episode Date: May 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this Wednesday’s episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia deliver their signature blend of rapid-fire pop culture commentary, reality TV recaps (with a heavy focus on the latest "Summer House" drama), and cheeky takes on the influencer and podcasting world. They also celebrate their success, joke about fandom mishaps, dissect viral TikTok moments, and unpack several hot topics from the ever-swirly landscape of pop culture. Highlights include the Alex Earl vs. Alex Cooper feud, new beauty launches, and detailed analysis of relationship chaos on "Summer House." The tone is conversational, self-deprecating, and filled with their trademark banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter: Fandom, Fame, and “Turds”

• 00:33 – 03:40
  • Jackie and Claudia riff about fandom labels (their listeners = Toasters, Good Guys’ fans = "morons", their own = affectionate “turds”).
  • Jackie recounts a street encounter:

    “She meant to say, ‘oh my God, I’m a toaster’. And she was like, ‘My, we got him a turd.’ And I was like, same.” (01:30, Jackie)

  • Both express gratitude for their podcast reaching #2 on the Apple charts, reflect on going “mass market,” and joke about not letting fame change them.

    “At number two on the Apple charts, you’re the same girl you were at number three on the Apple charts.” (04:24, Claudia)

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2. Summer House Recap Tease and Viral Jesse Solomon Moment

• 04:43 – 08:47
  • A viral TikTok clip from a Jesse Solomon concert sparks discussion, poking fun at claims Jesse ignored an audience member fainting.
  • Claudia jokes, “Maybe the Molly hit her sideways. Guess I’ll start FALLING, period.” (07:00, Claudia)
  • They begin debating who was at fault in the Summer House fight: Jackie blames Jesse Solomon, Claudia blames Lindsay Hubbard but acknowledges she’s “creating television.”

    “I would never blame Lindsay.” (07:59, Jackie)

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3. Mah-jongg Obsession, Content Creation, and the Press Tour Life

• 13:13 – 16:08
  • Both recount their growing obsession with mah-jongg, joking about how it disrupts their lives in hilariously dramatic fashion.
  • Claudia details being the new "face" of Dulcolax, poking fun at the influencer “press tour” lifestyle:

    “I really haven’t made a big deal of the fact that I am one of the new faces of Dulcolax... but that’s what happens when you’re, like, a major mover and shaker.” (12:04, Claudia)

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4. The Fast Five: Today’s Pop Culture Hot Topics

1. Alex Earl Sidesteps Alex Cooper Feud on The Today Show

• 21:30 – 26:48
  • Discussion about Alex Earl dodging a direct “feud” question; praised for handling awkwardness, critiqued for indirectness.
  • Notable exchange:

    “You know, well, I’m trying to keep things pretty positive today… why ruin such a good day with something not so great? Let’s keep the positive vibes going.” (23:08, Alex Earl quoted)

  • Hosts debate the Gen Z style of feuding:

    “If you start a fight with someone, you better come correct… her, like, just throwing these, like, darts and, like, run away is not like the school that he [Dave Portnoy] comes from. And not for me either…” (25:33, Claudia)

2. Olivia Jade Launches Beauty Brand ‘O.Piccola’

• 36:19 – 41:59
  • Jackie, an OG Olivia Jade fan, gives a glowing yet comedic endorsement, noting she’ll buy but the product isn’t for her “old lady makeup” needs.
  • They discuss self-funded beauty ventures and the cruelty of internet comment sections.

    “She has a perfect face, like she went to jail and she still looks better than me.” (38:13, Jackie on Lori Loughlin) “Who would voluntarily put themselves in this world?” (41:16, Jackie)

3. Dancing with the Stars Reveals Jackson Olsen (Savannah Bananas) as Cast Member

• 41:58 – 44:26
  • Claudia and Jackie explain the phenomenon of the Savannah Bananas (“baseball with built-in dance and performance”) and praise the casting as true out-of-the-box thinking.

4. Katy Perry’s Viral Reaction to Josh Groban’s Engagement

• 47:31 – 49:53
  • Perry posts a tongue-in-cheek video mourning Groban as her ‘one that got away’.

    “I do want to say I think the video is insanely inappropriate and beyond crazy to post when you yourself are in a long, like, serious relationship with a former prime minister and Josh Groban…” (48:20, Jackie)

  • They compare it to Taylor Swift’s “Back to December” for the ex-as-muse trope.

5. Sydney Sweeney & Scooter Braun’s Whirlwind Romance

• 53:30 – 56:30
  • The pair dissect a Sweeney-Braun montage from their Australian trip, comparing their love story to romance novels.
  • Claudia suggests Scooter is “sorting out” Sweeney’s business affairs:

    “She needs someone to come and sort out her… She needs a manager. I think he is available.” (54:52, Claudia)

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5. Summer House Deep Dive (Recap & Relationship Mayhem)

• 57:46 – 69:42

Key Recap Points:

• Huge argument in the driveway (“loser on loser crime”).
• Sympathy for Carl’s new girlfriend Bailey, with hosts noting Carl “doesn’t deserve her.”

  “There are a million words to describe what I felt when I was watching Carl, like, call Kyle a loser, but not one of them was, like, hot or sexy. It was giving. So, like, cringe.” (58:00, Jackie)

• Epic breakdown of the Amanda & Kyle rift, especially as the West/Amanda rumors lurk in the background:

  “She is sitting there snickering when everybody starts to pile... she is living for the moment.” (60:01, Claudia)

• Jackie and Claudia debate Amanda’s supportiveness as a partner, the "damsel in distress" narrative with West stepping in, and pile on Jesse Solomon for stirring drama.
• Reflect on the difficulty of navigating marriage and reality TV, with both feeling for Kyle (“his life is falling apart on every front”) but also critiquing his behavior.
• Justice for Kyle Cook (Twitter account and fandom):

  “Justice thinks it’s like a years-long... long play game to walk away from her marriage to Kyle Cook with him looking like the villain.” (68:15, Claudia)

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Notable Quotes

• On Podcast Fame:
  “Obviously I miss when we were just like, a little Instagram show and... it was time for everyone to really see what goes on here in a meaningful way.” (03:40, Jackie)

• On Press Tour Life:
  “Try being an influencer for a day. Try it.” (13:13, Claudia)

• On “Summer House” and marriage:
  “If all of this West Mandible stuff hadn’t happened, we would watch a fight and been like, wow, Kyle is awful… But then when you watch the fight with a shrewd eye, she is sitting there snickering when everybody starts to pile.” (60:01, Claudia) “In a marriage like that, people like Kyle get away with all this stuff because there's a precedent here, right? It's six or seven years of her not demanding anything from her husband.” (63:09, Jackie)

• On Gen Z Feuding:
  “Every move is just not what I would expect. But I do think it’s working for her. And I don’t know if it’s because the moves are good or just she has so much goodwill that it doesn’t matter what she does.” (26:05, Claudia)

• On Beauty Industry:
  “Who would voluntarily put themselves in this world? Like, she doesn’t have to.” (41:16, Jackie on Olivia Jade)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Fandom banter and Toast’s charting success: 00:33–04:40
• Viral Jesse Solomon incident & Summer House tease: 04:43–08:47
• The influencer "press tour" life: 12:04–16:08
• Alex Earl vs. Alex Cooper on “Today Show”: 21:30–26:48
• Olivia Jade’s beauty brand launch: 36:19–41:59
• Jackson Olsen (Savannah Bananas) on DWTS: 41:58–44:26
• Katy Perry/Josh Groban segment: 47:31–49:53
• Sydney Sweeney & Scooter Braun: 53:30–56:30
• “Summer House” Recap (full): 57:46–69:42

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Memorable Moments

• Jackie recounts being mistaken for a “turd” by a flustered fan in public.
• The hosts hysterically dissect the now-iconic Jesse Solomon concert faint video, speculating “maybe the Molly hit her sideways.”
• Claudia (facetiously): “I make it look easy. And that’s what I feel like is my responsibility as, like, one of the world’s hardest jobs.”
• Both dissect the TikTok micro-dramas and book club guilt spirals, with Lena Dunham love/hate as an intellectual exercise.
• Summer House talk turns academic, with both hosts engaging in armchair marital therapy (“That’s not partnership!”).
• A shared love-hate for Bravo and their “toxic” deep-dive culture, but also a refusal to discuss it in real life:

  “If I see a person and you ask me for an explanation off the cl, I charge, like, $3,000 an hour.”

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Final Thoughts

An episode full of high-energy banter, frank admissions, and sharply observed recaps. Jackie and Claudia are at their best toggling between tongue-in-cheek self-aggrandizement, deep dives into influencer tabloid drama, and genuine analysis of the messy realities of reality TV relationships.
Great for listeners who want a complete rundown of the week’s pop culture and Bravo world—with personal transparency, comedic asides, and some unexpectedly poignant moments woven throughout.

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Transcript

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Good morning girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

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It's your favorite show.

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The Fast 5 things you need to know.

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We'll start your day off swirly.

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It's the Toast. I sound amazing.

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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. It is hump day, so don't forget to hunt someone you love. And speaking of somebody that I love. Welcome to the show. Jackie Ashray.

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Little old me.

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Just little miss Foley.

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Who's afraid of little old me.

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I definitely am.

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Everyone, everyone, I see you all should be better be. Yes. Thank you. Welcome to the show Turtle Foley.

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Thank you. Journal full life serve turtle in honor of a lifetime having been the sister of Girdle Filet.

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I don't play wordle. I play turtle.

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Oh my God. I have to tell you the funniest thing. So yesterday I was in the park and you know me, a major celebrity. I ran into so many toasters taking pictures. Then I'm walking home and I see this girl on the street and she got so flustered, she meant to say, oh my God, I'm a toaster. And she was like, my, we got him a turd. And I was like, same.

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That's good. That like, just like the good guys have the morons, we have the turds. We have the turds. That will never not the turds. Shock me when I see like Ben like talking to morons, I'm like, that's rude. Like it always takes me a minute to be like, oh, that's. That's their fan base.

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The first time it happened, we were like at. At corner store and we leave and this guy's like the girl actually, she's like, oh my God, I'm a. And I said okay. Like that's.

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Don't be so hard on yourself.

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Yeah. Lift each. Lift yourself up.

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Love thyself. Love thy nader.

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And Ben was like, no way. And I was like, what is going on here? It was very jarring, a manipulation of language. But yes, they do call their fans the. Which I think is so funny and kind of perfect. Agreed.

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No, I'm kidding.

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Hit the nail on the head with that one.

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I'm kidding. We're collaborating with them this weekend, so we have to keep things, like, super, super cordial.

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Yeah. We do have, like, lots of things coming up with the good guys. Yikes.

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Yeah. On Saturday, Dear Media By Night, I'd say get your tickets, but it's sold out. Sorry.

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Oh, yeah, we're doing a live show. I need to find an outfit, and I need to stop eating. Like, I'm gonna be on stage. I can't.

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Yeah, no, it's gonna be fun.

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If you're there and, like, you're taking pictures from the stage, like, just lift your cameras up.

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I think that we tilt them down. I think it should be, like, a comic show where we confiscate people's phones

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so they can't take unflattering photos of us. I love that.

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I think that's. That feels right.

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I'll talk to Dear Media about it.

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Yeah. And it just, like, creates mystique. Meanwhile, we're just like you had.

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Yeah. You had to buy tickets to be there.

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We're so cool. No, we're just insecure.

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It's a little bit of both.

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Yeah. We are definitely cool, though. Definitely number two on the Apple charts yesterday. Oh, my gosh. Thanks, West Wilson.

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I'm glad that people are, like, finally seeing the beauty of the show. Like, I feel.

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You don't feel like they've seen. They had known. They've. They.

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Well, I know our listeners have, but we've obviously gone mass market recently, and the beauty and the range of what we do here is finally being spotlighted in a mainstream capacity and feels great. Obviously, I miss when we were just like, a little Instagram show and, like. But it was time, you know, it was time for everyone to really see what goes on here in a meaningful way.

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True beauty.

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Yeah. Obviously, I feel vindicated. I feel seen, and it's great.

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I didn't. I didn't know that was happening.

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If you say it, it will be. So I'm. Obviously, I'm just the same girl, you know, that I was. And I promise, like, I won't forget about you guys.

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At number two on the Apple charts, you're the same girl that you were at number three on the Apple charts.

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I'm definitely a little bit more insufferable, but overall, like, we are the same. Yes.

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Okay. That's good. That's good to know. You haven't changed. Never changed.

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Some people let fame change them, but for me, no.

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Yeah, you were Always like this.

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Did you watch Summer House?

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I did, and I watched last week's too. So my recap will sort of span both episodes as I don't know which episode is which.

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I saw the funniest video on TikTok today that, like, I have not stopped thinking about.

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Okay.

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Because, you know, Jesse Solomon's on tour, which I gotta catch a show. Singing my favorite song. Guess I'll start. And actually somebody posted a video that the girl in front of them actually fainted. Sorry, it's not funny. At the Jesse Solomon live show. And you know, artists who are, like, so performative, like, wait, there's a girl in the front row who needs water. And, like, they have to stop. They'll show. Just so they don't get, like, Travis Scottified. Well, Jesse Solomon's taking a page actually out of Travis Scott's book. And he didn't give a. Like, I don't even think he saw. And he's like, singing with the crowd. He's like, you sing?

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No. And I feel like the video tried to make him, like, look bad. Like, so someone fainted at the Jesse Solomon show. And, like, he didn't even stop the show. And that's just not how I, like, saw the video, you know, Because I

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would love to know how you saw the video.

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First of all, I don't think Jesse Solomon knew what was going on. Honestly. There's just, like a group of girls, like, standing around being dramatic at his show. Like, that probably happens every night. And I'm sure actually he was like, turn that racket down. I'm trying to sing up here. Like, why are you guys.

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During his big hit, like, why are

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you having a pow wow in the middle of my concert? Why would he know that someone fainted? Because. Because a Jesse Solomon show at the Troubadour isn't really where one would think it would be a destination for fainting. You know, I don't know.

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I could see myself being so overcome. Like, Elvis Presley, Jesse Solomon, troubadour show. I actually could see myself sort of getting weak at the knees.

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Yes. Perhaps because he is a modern day Elvis Presley. But I just wonder what the circumstances were because, like, sometimes people think that concerts, you know, they're on drugs or it's very hot.

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I didn't think that this person was on drugs.

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No, no, no. So those, like, Jesse Solomon concerts, they don't go so hard. So obviously the person who was suffering had their own blood sugar.

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She had low blood sugar, obviously.

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So it's just, you know, it's not what you would think is happening at the Jesse Solomon show. At the Troubadour.

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Absolutely.

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You don't think she's rolling for the Jesse Solomon show?

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Maybe the Molly hit her sideways. Guess I'll start falling, period. Yeah, Seriously funny stuff. I also feel we'll get into in the recap, but I do think that part of the fight last night was like, largely Jesse Solomon's fault and nobody was pointing the finger at him. Why would he do, like, literally he's gassing up. They kept doing flashbacks. Like the wedge between Carl and Kyle all summer. And every time someone was telling Kyle, like, something Carl's upset about, it was Jesse. Like, Jesse was really upset you did invest. Jesse was really upset you didn't say anything about his brother. Jesse wrote out a whole E. Not Jesse. I'm sorry.

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Yeah, I'm like, what?

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Carl? Carl was upset about that you didn't say invest in Lover Bar. Carl was upset that you didn't say anything about his brother. Carl wrote a whole email cuz he was so upset. But then he did. He literally was like starting stuff between the two of them the whole season. I just want to say I blame Jesse Solomon for last night.

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Oh, no, I fully blame Lindsay Hubbard, period. Trying to hold a marriage counseling session in front of the whole house after a day of day drinking.

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Just a little bit about me. I would never blame Lindsay.

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No. Like, it doesn't change how I feel about Lindsay Hubbard. Like, she's creating television, she's doing her job. But, like, if I'm just evaluating the situation, like, why was she pushing that conversation so hard and having a very hard time understanding the term management does not mean residency.

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Yeah, the residency. Maybe the residency is the friends we made along the way.

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Like he signed with management. No, I actually really appreciated Ben because he was the only one who could, like, have a cohesive thought. But he was just saying, like, because I'm with the management, I'm going to be playing bigger, better shows. I actually will have to travel less. I have one big show in Vegas. Everyone's like, he's doing a residency in Vegas and he didn't tell his wife, like, what part of that was residency.

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So I assume our fifth and final story will be a summer house recap.

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We have like five little stories and then a separate summer house recap.

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I'm okay with that. So we will save all of our thoughts and feelings for a lot of thoughts.

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Lot. Oh my God. Last night I was actually wheezing in bed because I found the funniest Twitter account called justice for Kyle Cook, and

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it's quite literally authored by Kyle Cook.

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No, it's literally like the Club Chalamet version of the Kyle Cook fandom where it's, like, deranged takes from Kyle Cook's number one fan. And.

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And talking about the alleged rumor that I've never heard that Kyle Cook is hung like a horse.

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And Zach was like, I've never seen you laugh so hard I can even speak. And it was so stupid. Like, the girl obviously hates Amanda. She actually has accused her of, like, trying to gone girl Kyle. A year's long a years long gone girl process that she almost got away with if she had, like, just gotten divorced and not it all up, because she would have been, like, Kyle's victim.

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And of course, club loves a victim Club.

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Shalam thinks that that would be so, like, not the Club Cook Club keeps calling her Amanda, but Tula, like, I think call it her Amanda.

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Butt cheeks. Stupid. He's so stupid. That's funny.

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Who is a strange individual? I was crying, laughing.

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Oh, who's the deranged individual? Her name is Kyle Cook.

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Kyle. Kylie Cook.

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Kylie. Oh, Kylie on therapists.

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Kylie on therapist. Set your alarms. Noon today. Might have to move my maj game.

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Literally. I just want to say, like, I love Kylie.

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I'm sorry. I mean, Kylie on platypus.

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Platypus, as David bornoi lovingly calls him. That's such a sleigh.

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No, I can't wait. And he gets amazing guests. And, like, every guest he has, I'm like, oh, that's gonna be a great episode. But I'm never, like, pulled. It takes a lot for me to listen to someone's podcast, considering we podcast all day. Like, I'm a mother of three. It just. I've cleared my schedule for this.

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And, you know, she, like, doesn't do podcast.

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She.

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But she's, like, dabbling. She just did that Kid Cudi one.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And so whatever podcast she goes on, like, is gonna get listened to. She doesn't need the platform. She brings the platform. So she's just choosing shows she wants

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to go and, like, conversation she wants to have. Because, like, the Kid Cudi, when I saw some clips and stuff, but, like, it's not super swirly. Like, no, the Jake Shane is going to have a swirly conversation, which is the. You know, it's like, when Kim goes on those random podcasts, talk about, like, women's health or something. Like, that's. That's not what I'm clicking into. Or, like, criminal Justice. But if she went on, I guess she did go and call her daddy, and I don't think I listened, but you know what I'm saying.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, maybe I'm just. She's not Kylie right now.

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Such a flattering choice for. I'm sure Jake Shane was just, like, flattered because, like, she chose promoting anything.

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He's the chosen one.

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It's a really big deal. I wonder if. No, you know what? Like, I just love that. I can't wait to watch.

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Also, speaking of, like, not promoting anything but going on podcasts, like, I actually am starting to, like, believe the rumors about you that, like, you're promoting something because I. I organically saw you on a podcast. I didn't even know you were, like, I knew you did two podcasts because, like, Amanda Hersh is your friend, and Suzy Weiss launched a podcast. So, like, okay, it was like, you know, when it rains, it pours. You just happened. It was a coincidence. But then they just saw you on a third podcast.

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Yeah. And I feel like I really haven't made a big deal of the fact that I am one of the new faces of Dulcalax and their new daily gut support gummies. This is not sponsored. I mean, I am sponsored, but this episode is not. And I just feel like, yeah, being the face of a major, major brand.

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Have to do press tour.

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Yeah, I'm sorry. Like, I'm genuinely sorry, but that's what happens when you're, like, a major mover and shaker.

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It's like Alex Earl to Sports Illustrated what you are to Dox. Like, going on a press tour.

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It's a good analogy, except that obviously, like, my cultural impact is much larger. But, yeah, if you wanted to. And I'm one of one, actually.

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I'm a Dolox face as well.

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Yeah. But yours. Your campaign, like, hasn't started yet. So, like, right now, I'm the face.

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Oh, my God. I wonder if I'm going on podcasts.

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You probably are. And I just want to say, like, get ready. The life of being, like, a brand spokesperson, it's not easy. Obviously, I make it look easy. People look at me and they say, oh, my God.

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When I was watching those clips, I was like, wow, she's having an easy time.

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And it's what, you know, I was sweating so much in that clip. Like, I. It. I make it look easy. And that's what I feel like is my responsibility as, like, one of the world's hardest jobs. Like, I'm a podcaster and content creator.

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You Tried doing it for a day.

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I literally just got off of work, and it's 5:19. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it.

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Like, when you go on other podcasts, like, what do you like to talk about? What do you like when you. Wait, when do you feel like. When do you feel like you're in your flow state?

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Well, obviously turn south, like, but, like, what.

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What facet of your life do you like when people talk about pop culture with you?

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Hate. Yeah. And that goes through my personal life as well. If I see you in person, don't try to ask me about last night's episode.

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Oh, my God. If I see you in person, don't be like, wait, tell me what's going on with Western. Oh.

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Oh. If I see a person and you ask me for an explanation off the cl, I. I charge, like, $3,000 an hour, so I hate when people ask me about pop culture. And what sucks is, like, my friend group, like, the reason why they are my friends is, like, they love pop culture and they love Bravo. So whenever we get together, like, that's what we do. And it's not my favorite topic of conversation, but I'm not gonna bring, like, my baggage to the table. I'll just partake in the conversation and shut up. Oh. I didn't even tell you what I did yesterday. I played in a. In a charity mahjong tournament. It wasn't a tournament. It was just, like. Just an event.

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So how did it work? I saw that you did that, but, like, was it around? Robin was there around.

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So you. You had to sign up as a table, like, a foursome. So it was just, like, a fun,

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social way to, like, friendless losers need not apply.

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Correct. So you wouldn't have been invited. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

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Can't call me friendless. You can't stick me with that.

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I'm kidding. I'm absolutely kidding.

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I have a lot of friends.

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I feel you have about 60, right?

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I have a lot of great girlfriends.

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Yeah. Yeah. And I heard they're all buying you a Gucci purse for your birthday.

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They. They like that. They would.

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Because they love you so much. Yeah. So it was really fun.

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I wouldn't want it. I wouldn't want it.

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I take mahjong, like, so seriously, and, like, I play competitively, and this is very much like, a social affair. Well, it was nice to see everyone. I just wanted the games to, like, move quicker, and everyone was, like, stopping for lunch and, like, chatting with friends and was like, can you just Stop eating and play. So then I did get a game together last night after bedtime because I hadn't gotten my fix and. And I did get my fix.

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Oh good, I'm playing today.

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So am I. And tomorrow, like the way I've neglected my job, my children, my dog, my husband since I became like a full blown mahjong addict, I don't even think it's necessarily a bad thing because I'm just like stimulating my mind and you know, building friendships that'll last a lifetime.

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Yeah.

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But I definitely do feel like the business is suffering. My family is suffering. Like when I get off my phone, like seriously, like so much going on, like emails, nan it like it's insane, but like I don't care.

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Well, on the days that I don't play, so I probably play like in a two hour window when it's like relatively quiet around here. So I try and think of like what I'm doing that I, that I'm not doing. So I would say the things that suffer on the days that I maj like probably home cooked dinner. Because whatever I didn't do in those two hours, I'm doing in the following two hours, you know.

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Yeah. And to be clear, I'm 100 kidding. I actually slay. I go two and a half hours during nap time and it's like actually perfect.

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And like I'm probably behind on some ads, you know, probably got some content to shoot.

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My house like isn't as clean as I would like it to be, but that's okay.

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Like I've missed out on probably 30 minutes of puttering around and putting away laundry.

[A]

I love puttering though.

[B]

I'm always puttering. Walking back and forth and back and forth and like moving things and then like oh, I had to bring that

[A]

scooping things like everything I need to go to the kitchen, come like me

[B]

little pile here and then distributing the pile to the various rooms. So some of that time is lost. And you know what? I'm happy to lose it.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah. Well, let's get into the stories because yeah, we haven't even yet and we have a summer house recap and we have dimash. So of course without further ado to do to do, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.

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You're welcome. Dirt.

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Our first story, get out the whiteboard. We're talking about it first period. We're talking about in a formal capacity. Alex Earl dodges a question about Alex Cooper feud live on today's show. So Alex Earl is on a press tour right now for her, one of four Sports Illustrated covers. And on the Today show yesterday, Craig Melvin was feeling brave.

[A]

And I just want to say, Craig, thank you.

[B]

No, that was wild from Craig because you could let me tell you about the exchange, but you could tell that she did not know that he was going to ask this and she was not happy.

[A]

So I also feel like he didn't really know what he was talking about. He was just like, he knew he had to ask you.

[B]

Talking about. He wouldn't have asked the question because, like, he would know that. It's like, you know, she doesn't want to talk about it today. So they probably just told him to do it and he didn't know it was a big deal.

[A]

He couldn't even say. And I actually found it quite misogynistic. Like Craig, who, like, he couldn't even say Alex Cooper's name.

[B]

Like, definitely had like an agreement for her to go on that you could not ask about Alex Cooper. So then like the producers probably wrote him this question in a roundabout way. That's what I don't think it was out of disrespect.

[A]

I think it was like it was giving misogyny.

[B]

It's like it was giving Alex Cooper is a no go.

[A]

Got it. The words.

[B]

So this is what Craig said. There's been this back and forth between you and another Internet personality, a podcaster as well. And there seems to be a bit of online beef there. What's actually happening? What's really going on.

[A]

So Boomer, like, so Boomer. Of all the places, Craig, we're all waiting for her. We're like, is it going to be TikTok? Is it going to be get Reality? Is it going to be Netflix? It ain't going to be the Today show, first of all. So I want, I respect Craig's delusional hustle. I didn't expect much.

[B]

I actually don't even think, I think they set Craig up, the producers, because nobody who knew and nobody who knew who knows anything about the situation would have asked the question on her big day. And this was her response. You could tell she was pissed. She said, you know, well, I'm trying to keep things pretty positive today. We don't actually have that much time here, honestly. And also it's like, why ruin such a good day with something not so great? Let's keep the positive vibes going.

[A]

And Craig could not be deterred. He kept going.

[B]

He hit her with a follow up. He asked if there was legitimate contentiousness and if or if the beef had been exaggerated. And then she like sarcastically said, no, it's exaggerated. I love everyone. And then Craig, Craig said he wasn't buying it. He's. He's a smart cookie.

[A]

Oh, my God. Craig is like so crazy.

[B]

Yeah, I, I actually don't think that he, like, knew that much about the

[A]

situation because if he did, he would never. He looks so silly. He kind of looks like crazy.

[B]

I know, but how do you have Alex Earl on I know right now and not ask about it, but I am sure that her team said you cannot talk about it. So this is, was their solution, the Today Show. And I'm sure she's pissed about it.

[A]

Yeah, it's just funny that, like, the Today shows, like, always running out of time. They're cutting people off, they're cutting to commercial, but meanwhile, they had time for this. Two follow ups.

[B]

Yeah, I understand all parties here, but, like, I don't know how she could expect to not be asked about it, like, two weeks after the biggest news in the country. But I'm sure her PR team was like, we're not coming on if you're gonna ask about it. So they said, we won't ask about it. And then they crossed her.

[A]

I actually don't feel like she had a choice as to whether or not she could go on the show because, like, all the four Today cover stars went on the Today show. And, like, it's just a prerequisite that you have to do the press Associated. So I'm sure. They said, like, you know, friendly publicist, like, hey, let's not go here. And I honestly wouldn't have expected that they would have, like. But they did.

[B]

Yeah. Also, did you see Dave's latest Tea by the Sea? Talking about how he isn't thrilled with how Alex has handled this so far. Sort of like.

[A]

Yep, I did.

[B]

Skirting around the issue. That's when he brought platypus into it.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

What are your thoughts?

[A]

My thoughts are that, like, once again, I'm deeply biased. So, like, I just ride for Alex Earl and, like, she wins. She's my queen. But if I were to, like, take my biased hat off, which I don't want to, but I'm just going to temporarily set it down and then put it back on. Like, and I think that the Internet is also having the same thing as me. Like, we just like Alex Earl, and so we, like, we're rooting for her. Yeah. But, like, can you just say it? It's, like, getting annoying.

[B]

Yeah. I think that. And Dave said this. He was like, I'm not, like, in my world, like, if you start a fight with someone, like, you better come correct. You better say with your whole chest, like, Mimi in the parking lot. And so her, like, you know, just, like, throwing these, like, darts and, like, run away is not like, the school that he comes from. And. And not for me either. Like, and. And I've said that, like, the way that she's handling it is. So I guess Gen Z, like, it's just every move is just not what I would expect. But I do think it's working for her. And I don't know if it's because the moves are good or just she has so much goodwill that it doesn't matter what she does.

[A]

That's what it is.

[B]

But it is. It is working. It's not my style of feuding, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I guess it's not Alex Cooper's either, because she was sort of like a. Let's, you know, let's confront one another.

[A]

Yeah. And I think that Alex Cooper. No one will give her the credit because we're just like, the Internet's in, and I hate Alex Cooper mode. But she did sort of, like, shut the whole thing down. She, like, posted this sort of aggressive video wanting a response, and she didn't get one. And, like, if you were to look at it more. And I'm not. I'm not looking at it more unbiased, but if you were, it does look like Alex early sort of ran scared. Now. I Know, everyone's saying, like, she's gonna put it on her show, and it's like, okay, maybe she will. But, like, for now, please tell us

[B]

also, like, as long as she doesn't say what happened, like, you know, Alex Cooper remains unchallenged.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, you know, for a minute there, it felt like there was a singing ship over there. But I don't know.

[A]

She's with Alex Cooper.

[B]

With Alex Cooper. But, like, she's still doing her podcast. Like, the more time goes by, the more people, like, move on from it. I feel like she's sort of like, dip doc, dodge dive.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

From this. And she's like. And she's staying afloat, and this is not going to take her down. And so no, now whatever comes out

[A]

on Netflix and this big, mysterious Vanity Fair article, which, like, hasn't come out yet.

[B]

Right. Which. So until those things happen, like, she's afloat. And I do think the more that time goes on, the less power things have.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

That's what I think.

[A]

I agree. And I think now with, like, the perspective of hindsight, even people who were, like, eating it up at the time, like, she did eat the out of Breanna chicken fry. Like, I'm sorry, she literally ate her up. Chewed her up and spit her the out. Yeah. So at the time, everybody was like, it's weird that she's sending the messages. But now, like, now let's all take a look back. Like, no. Like, Brianna chicken pie inserted herself right in the middle of it. Alex Cooper's like, what are you talking about? We have this actually quite long history of me being lovely and gracious to you. What is. What is this?

[B]

And if I'm chicken fry, I'm mad at my friend Earl for leaving me out to dry.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Because she looks stupid.

[A]

Yeah. But she shouldn't have put herself in the middle of it anyway. I think she probably did that without Alex Earl's permission. So now it's like, I don't have to come rescue you. You put yourself here.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else was Dave saying? I forget. But he also said that he wanted to go on Platypus to promote his book, but Jake Shane wouldn't have him on. Like, he said he declined. That was at the end. That's when he started. I don't think he has, like, beef necessarily with Jake Shane, but he was saying, like, Jay Shane's so brand safe. I don't know how Jake Shane got involved in this. And then.

[A]

And also, I don't think Jake Shane is brand Safe like Claudia.

[B]

He is.

[A]

Yeah, but brand safe implies, like, boring and like, bad takes.

[B]

No, like, you can be brand safe and. And be cool. Like, some people can do it.

[A]

It's very hard because I feel like brand safe quickly becomes, like, not entertaining.

[B]

Yeah, but they're like, brand safe can also just be, like, great. Hasn't had controversy yet. Everybody loves them. Popular and also talented. It could be talented doesn't necessarily mean untalented.

[A]

But, like, Jake Shane does have. I mean, one. Sorry, I'm just. Let me acknowledge my bias, too. Like, I'll defend Jake Shane until I die. But he does have, like, controversy.

[B]

The little things, it's something they have not bubbled up to the surface.

[A]

Not real. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So I guess, yeah, Dave wanted to go on, like. Or his team was putting out podcasts for when his book comes out, and he was like, what one said he'll go on. And he, I guess, was interested in Jake Shane, and then Jake Shane didn't, like, want to do it.

[A]

Well, I'm. I. I don't know if Jake Shane's refusal of Dave Portnoy has anything to do with Dave being too, like, radioactive

[B]

or Alex Earl, but Dave Porter and Alex are fine. And he has not, according to Dave. He has not taken a position. And in some breaths, he's critical of Earl, and in some breaths, he's critical of Cooper. I feel like he's really played the fence and played it well while still being very interesting commentator.

[A]

Yes. But he is Alex Cooper's, like, friend, mentor, confidant, whatever. So, like, yeah, he's not gonna go on. On. He's not gonna go on Jake's podcast. Like, yeah, no, I understand. I could see Jake declining it, like, in defense of Alex Earl, even though. Yeah, he hasn't done anything. I don't think Alex are loves Dave Portnoy, to be honest.

[B]

I think they're fine. I don't think he said anything that he wouldn't be able to look her in the eye.

[A]

No. For sure. But like, when you're coming up with that conclusion, like, based on what Dave says. Like, Dave's like, we're great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She comes to Barcelona.

[B]

No, but even in. When he's talking about the situation, I've not heard anything, like, unkind. He keeps saying, like, she's the girl's girl and everybody love, like, positive things about her. I don't know. I don't think it's become negative.

[A]

No. But I think Alex Earl hates to Portnoy. And I also think, like, Alex Earl's dad probably hates to pornoi.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Just a feeling. Just a feeling.

[B]

Interesting. Well, I wonder what podcast he will go on for his book. I want to read his book.

[A]

Cancel.

[B]

Cancel me if you kind. It's the story of Barstool, and it's a great title.

[A]

It's a great title, but I don't know if I'm gonna read it.

[B]

I think I will.

[A]

I can barely pick up strangers. Bell Burden.

[B]

I know. I think. I think we'll be funny.

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm sure it'll be interesting, but, like, I just don't know if I'm personally gonna read it.

[B]

I think I'm gonna give it a shot. There was something else coming out that I want to read. Are you gonna read Lena Dunham's book?

[A]

You know what? I really want to.

[B]

I know she's really doing the most. I'm really, like.

[A]

I'm struggling.

[B]

All this, like, propaganda. It's working on me.

[A]

Forget it's working on me. I was talking about that. I'm not skating enough at that. Like, I think that if I were be able. Like, if I were to be able to take off my I hate Lena Dunham goggles, I'd probably be her number one fan. And, like, I would be defending her. Like, I defend Blake Lively. Like, for real. Because the thing is, like, so much of the Lena Dunham force, hate is forced. It's because she's fat. Like, sorry. Like, people hate fat people. So, like, they. It's like she gets more hate for the things that people hate her for. It's, like, outsized. I believe it's largely rooted in fat phobia. Not to be, like, so woke, but it's true. I personally don't care that she's fat.

[B]

People loved her for a really long time.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they did. But, like, you know, you can only tolerate. Society only tolerates Fired. Absolutely.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Now, my hate of her obviously has nothing to do with her weight, because I would never. It's more so just to do with, like, her insides. But I. I do sort of want to read the book. She's. I'm very. She's very complicated. It's, like, complicated feelings. Yeah.

[B]

Like, really an amazing song. Like, I guess I have to listen to it, you know?

[A]

Yeah, of course. I'm just, like, afraid that, like, a book is so personal. Like, Ben Platt can release a song, and I'll listen to it, and I'll still hate Ben Platt, but I'll love the song. If you read someone's book, that's like, their insides. Like you have. If you love the book, you love the person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm afraid to start loving. I really am loving Lena. I don't know if I can do it.

[B]

I feel like you could. Okay. That. You know, sometimes you have your guilty pleasure.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I think she might be my guilty pleasure, honestly.

[B]

That's fine. Don't like. But I. I. Don't deny yourself.

[A]

I don't know if she's my guilty pleasure because I don't even let myself be curious. Like, I don't even let myself go there.

[B]

Don't deny yourself. You know, because. Who are you hurting? She doesn't care. You're hurting yourself.

[A]

Postpartum, like, one of the shows we started was Girls, but had never seen it. And, like, I obviously watched it once when it was out, and people talk about it prolifically like, it's the Sex in the City. And, like, it kind of is

[B]

to a point.

[A]

Of course. It's like it's Brooklyn.

[B]

Maybe, like, no, maybe to, like, the end of the second season. But then it got really bad, and it's, like, indie.

[A]

And it's not like, it's not fabulous at all. Like, the apartments are dirty and the clothes are ugly. Like, it's not, like, a daddy shirt with holes in it. Like, 100.

[B]

And it's like, it's television, you know? And it's like, I sure wear. With holes in it. I don't care what you wear to sleep, but, like, I'm watching television.

[A]

Even Jessa, who is, like, the quintessential, like, fabulous character. Like, she's the one with, you know, worldly wisdom and travel and clothes. Like, it's all just, like, gray. Like.

[B]

Yeah. No, and it's like, if Jess is the fabulous character, that explains why I don't like the show. Yeah, because that's, like, not my idea of fabulous.

[A]

I just want to warn everyone that I'm definitely, like, dangerously close to entering.

[B]

You know what? I'm gonna. I give you my support.

[A]

Okay. You know, that actually really helps because I do feel, like, fear of judgment from you.

[B]

Like, it has stopped me from picking up the book. You know what I mean? Be curious. It's also good to, like, like, just engage with things, even if you wind up not liking. It's just good to, like, engage with things. Not everything has to be, like, so, you know, an echo chamber.

[A]

You're right. You're right. Okay, so now I have two books to read. Oh, great.

[B]

I don't think you're gonna read Strangers.

[A]

I am Okay. I am okay.

[B]

It's okay if you don't.

[A]

There's just a lot going on.

[B]

I gave my recap to the redhead, so, like, I have closed that no chapter of diapers.

[A]

I want to. Like, I have a desire. And it's just been, like, a lot going on with pop culture that, like, when I get into bed at night, like, I have to watch stuff so I could talk about on the toast.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Also, my nights are not mine anymore.

[B]

Have you heard about this trad wife book, yesteryear?

[A]

Sounds familiar.

[B]

Yeah. Rebecca chose it for next month for the redheads, which is, like, good because it's buzzy and everyone's talking about it, but I know I'm gonna hate it. We talked about it. Yeah.

[A]

Because it's like, the trad wife life is not the life that you think it is.

[B]

And it's, like, making fun of influencers and, like, trad wife and, like, ballerina. It's, like, definitely anti ballerina from basically, it's like a tradwife influencer. Like, wakes up in. In 1885 and actually has to live the life.

[A]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[B]

Obviously, she's, like, glamorized. Like, what?

[A]

She's cosplaying.

[B]

Like, I could throw up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, from the reviews I've read, like, it's very, like, you know, anti and, like, makes a mockery. So check us out on the redheads. But also, already, Anne Hathaway. It's being turned into a movie, and Anne Hathaway is playing the trad wife.

[A]

Oh, my God. She is the new Daisy Edgar Jones. Like, oh, there's a book let's call Anne. Daisy's sort of been left in the dust.

[B]

Well, these are, like, older characters, and, like, they're the two of them. One of them could play the younger version.

[A]

Younger version. I love that there's space for both. Yeah.

[B]

Okay, let's get into our next story, because, again, like, it's only story number two. I don't know.

[A]

Like, wow. So it's really crazy.

[B]

Olivia Jade launches her own beauty brand. So Olivia Jade has launched her brand called oh, Piccolo.

[A]

Oh, Piccolo.

[B]

Oh, Piccolo. Thank you, Salma. I only watch the videos without sound, so. Oh, Piccolo. On May 12, she debuted her hero product, the the Bronze and Glow Balm, which she has been teasing on social media for the past few days. She spoke to People magazine exclusively, saying, I'm just so nervous to put something out for the first time, and I really want it to be perfect. She said that this product was roughly five years in the Making. Five years ago, she started the process of building a brand in with a manufacturer I think in California. And it was just like, not going well and she, she like scrapped the whole project. And then after years of back and forth, she found a Mac manufacturer in South Korea that she was able to work with. And she has like her dream products of a dual ended. It's like a little contour stick, like a bronzing stick and a highlighting stick, but it's dual ended. Each one has two sides and there's three different shades.

[A]

So one thing about me is I'm an OG Olivia Jade fan. I used to watch her YouTube videos. I never turned on her in the college admission scandal. Like, I, I've always been ride or die.

[B]

Like, she just education, like, just, sorry,

[A]

I don't give a. Honestly, I just don't. Yeah, and I will ride for her probably till the day, like, she and I both die. But actually I have nothing in common with her. She's one pound, so young and has perfect skin. And so when I see her do her makeup tutorials, like, oh, that's fun to watch. I'm not picking anything up because I need layers and layers and layers of foundation and concealer cake done. So I actually feel like this product is not for me because she's such like a sheer, natural glam girly, which is like what the young kids love now, now. And it's like, yeah, it's easy to love that when you're young. Yeah, sorry, I need more. I need, you know, old lady makeup.

[B]

Her mother tried it and she loves

[A]

the once again, Lori Lachlan. Like a perfect angel among us. No offense. Like, you and I, I have more needs than Lori Loughlin. Like, she has a perfect face like she went to jail and she still looks better than me. Like, sorry. So, yeah, while these are people I deeply love and admire when it comes to actually following trends, I am watching the tutorials of like, beat down ugly old ladies with wrinkly skin and like, facial hair. Not the Lachlan Jade family, unfortunately. But I love them and I'll purchase it because I'm a supporter.

[B]

Yeah, I, I, it's a cute little product. She said, you know, throw it in your bag, just give a little spritz. By the way, does anyone ever do that? Like, or maybe I just throw it in their bag. Maybe my lifestyle right now, I'm not like, touching up in the bathroom.

[A]

Oh, I am.

[B]

What do you mean? I leave the house and I come

[A]

back, oh, no, my purse has a bronzer, a Blush and a brush.

[B]

And when do you redo it?

[A]

It. So I do my makeup in the mornings and then I have like two hours before I actually leave the house where I'm like doing breakfast and like, you know, doing lots of stuff. Then I get here, I touch up. But that's because I'm on camera. And then if I'm out for the day, my purse, like in the bathroom, I do touch up bronzer and blush always. It, like, doesn't stay on my face.

[B]

Powder both.

[A]

Creamy powder, powder, blush, bronzer, road, like creamy blush.

[B]

I guess I could add a little more blush throughout the day.

[A]

Bringing one of those road. It's called a pocket blush because it's supposed to stay in your pocket for lip and cheek touch up. It's kind of parching.

[B]

I don't know. It doesn't appeal to me right now, like, to put on more makeup. I just sort of put it on the morning and you know, it like

[A]

that's crazy to me that you put it on in the morning and that's it.

[B]

But like what I need at 4 o' clock when I'm just like running around.

[A]

Oh, no, no, I don't need F4. I'm saying if I have stuff to do, like out. If I have front facing events from

[B]

a pile of stuff.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Well, this is cute. Oh, Piccolo. Did she say why she called it that?

[A]

Yes. Such a slay. You know what it means in like Italian or some? And like this why my brand, I need to find like, it could never be called this. Ready? It's called petite.

[B]

O dot petite.

[A]

It's giving like. No. Oh, Piccolo means petite in like some language. It just means like, you're fat and I'm skinny. Like, that's basically what she said.

[B]

And. And the O dot, is there a dot? Yeah, it's O period. Piccola.

[A]

Is that just the Instagram username?

[B]

Because they needed like everywhere on this article. Oh, Piccolo.

[A]

I saw a video of her talking about that.

[B]

It means petite and it's like a little petite little makeup thing.

[A]

Founder Opicola O dot Piccola. Yeah, it's like very. Yeah, I saw Acquired style and Paige Lorenz, like wearing it. It's like. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like perfect skin.

[B]

Acquired. And Paige need makeup too, Claudia.

[A]

Not in the way that I do.

[B]

Yeah. But also what's interesting is that she funded this herself. It's not like a, a big venture firm.

[A]

Sephora. Yeah.

[B]

So it's, it's an interesting move for her considering I felt like she was retired. You know, she like I know.

[A]

And. And, yeah, who would want to get back because, like, the beauty space already, the comments. It's overpriced, cheap packaging. Looks like pixie. Like, who the would voluntarily, like, put themselves in this world? Like, she doesn't have to.

[B]

Yeah, she doesn't.

[A]

I think she genuinely loves makeup. Like, this is a true labor of love. And so, like, that's admirable. But, like, I can't imagine somebody wanting to get back into this game. Yeah, yeah, she made it out with her life.

[B]

It sort of is a surprising move, like, because she doesn't need to work this hard. Especially she's not being funded by, like, one of these reality activist firms that does for people.

[A]

Venture capital.

[B]

Like, why putting all your money into this?

[A]

No clue.

[B]

Well, are you ready for our next story?

[A]

I am.

[B]

A Dancing with the Stars cast member has been revealed. So, as reported, we have Maura Rob, Sierra Miller, and now Savannah Bananas Jackson Olsen.

[A]

It's actually such a good casting.

[B]

Yes. So the Savannah Bananas are a minor league baseball team that go viral all the time. For videos and dances that they do. They've, like, incorporated, like, a bunch of, like, dancing and choreography.

[A]

I don't know if they ever play baseball.

[B]

They do.

[A]

They do, but they're literally a traveling performer.

[B]

But they're also like, yeah, the. The founders of the team, they mix standard baseball with additional entertainment incorporating choreography, dance moves, sing alongs, and even they have the players saying taking the field instills. Yeah. And they have amazing, like, content that goes viral. And Jackson is, like, their number one dancer.

[A]

But is he the one who did the backflip on TV and, like, broke his neck? Do you remember that?

[B]

Oh, I. I remember that. I don't think. I don't.

[A]

I actually think it was him. Can we get a fact check on whether or not that was Jackson? Yeah, because remember when we were talking about that, like, that story pained me deeply.

[B]

That was really hard. But in general, I don't follow the Savannah Bananas, but sometimes they come up for me. Like, I love what they do. I think it's, like, so joyful, so family friendly. It's joyful.

[A]

People love them. I actually saw the founder on a podcast. It was like an entrepreneur's podcast, because this company is, like, worth close to million dollars. Like, they crush. And they were, like, asking all these entrepreneur questions. He was like, who gives a. Like, I just. He's like, he doesn't release, raise the price of his tickets. It's always going to remain, like, this family friendly, affordable. He doesn't care if they go, you know, get a billion dollar exit. He was like, I'm just having the time of my life. He was like this crazy guy wearing like a yellow blazer and a yellow hat. Like, it's really sweet and I actually think it's an amazing casting for Dancing with the Stars. I think that family friendly energy. They're dancers.

[B]

Also. I think he will be a really good dancer. I think people will like him and his personality. Not that I know him, but, like, it just is a really good energy and I think he'll go far and I'm excited. I want more people to know about Savannah Bananas and also I want to know more about myself. I only like, passively see them sometimes.

[A]

I can't believe you, like, have never been like, that's something you would go to with your kids.

[B]

But they're in Savannah.

[A]

But they travel, right? Like, they do shows. So they like, literally at stadiums.

[B]

So they play like the minor. I need to find like the minor Florida team.

[A]

I love that the minor leagues are getting their moment.

[B]

They deserve it. They deserve it.

[A]

Also, they have a really large fan base and I think that'll be good for, like, votes and stuff.

[B]

Yeah, no, I think it's great. Very cool.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

Out of the box thinking.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

Are you ready for our fourth story?

[A]

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[A]

That's me.

[B]

Our fourth story. Katy Perry mourns Josh Groban romance after he announces his engagement. So Katy Perry just, I don't know, speaking to me directly, posted a video of herself, like, drinking alongside the news of Josh Groban and his fiance getting engaged with the song the One who Got Away playing.

[A]

So I'm not sure if I knew on a conscious level that the one that Got Away was about Josh Groban. I'm not even sure if I knew that these two dated.

[B]

I said they dated.

[A]

Did I did that devastates me that I've been walking this earth without this information.

[B]

No, I know, but it's like once you know it, then it just hurts so bad that they didn't wind up together.

[A]

Obviously. Think of the music.

[B]

It really, really hurts. And like the fact that he's the one that got away and like, she's like, bum that he's engaged. Like, it's not too late for them.

[A]

I do want to say I think the video is insanely inappropriate and beyond crazy thing to post when you yourself are in a long, like, serious relationship with a former prime minister and Josh Groban, whom literally you haven't been with in 20 years, is now engaged. Like, beyond inappropriate.

[B]

I just want to say, like, you only post a video like this when you seriously don't give a about the guy.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

This just confirms, like, these two are never getting back together.

[B]

Does not care what he thinks of her. How embarrassing this is because, like, if you actually held a candle for someone, like, you would not behave this way. Like, this is what you do when you actually don't give any books.

[A]

Absolutely, positively.

[B]

This, like, this trope of her, him, and the One that Got Away, like, does remind me of Taylor. Taylor Lautner and Back to December where, like, that's her one that Got Away. But it's like, I'm sorry, I just don't like you, you know?

[A]

Yeah, it's a great analogy too, because both Back to December and the One that Got Away are respectively each of those artists, like, most devastating songs. Like, it's funny that we're being so light about one of the saddest songs ever. The One that Got Away is like, like a true heart wrencher.

[B]

No, but it is. But it's like, you're an amazing person. In another life, I would be your girl. I just don't like you ugly. You know, I. I Can't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I can't love you like you are the one that got away. I let you get away because I don't like your ass. But back to back in December, like,

[A]

no, Back to December was like, I kind of like, gave you no time of day. And now when I look back on that, like, that was wrong for sure.

[B]

But, like, if I could do it again, I would do it the same way. Because I don't like you.

[A]

No, but she's saying in Back to December, like, she wants to go back to December so she can redo it. Because I think she actually realized, like, never mind. I actually do like you.

[B]

No, so she could dump him again. She wants to. No way.

[A]

Do you think the Lautners are going to be at Taylor Javis's wedding?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

One of my favorite.

[B]

He did the backflip.

[A]

One of my favorite games to play, like, who will be at Taylor and Travis's wedding? Because also when she was on the Graham Norton show, she very much was like, it's a free for all. Everyone's invited. But I don't think that's true. And I think just because you were invited to the Eras tour, literally everyone was invited to the Errors tour. I don't think.

[B]

No, but on stage at the Iris tour. Yeah, everyone's at the tent. But if you were on stage doing a backflip and you, like, literally almost broke your back for the hours tour and you're in the music video, like, I think you're invited and you're back to December.

[A]

Well, that would mean that there. That would mean Florence Welsh, which I do feel like she would be there. Do you think Marcus Mumford?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

You know what? I wonder if this is not possible. Like, predictions. Hold on. I wonder if it's on Polymarket. Like Gracie.

[B]

Gracie Abrams, definitely. Oh, maybe she'll bring.

[A]

Oh, okay, wait here. Look who will attend Taylor and Travis's wedding. Jack Antonoff, 94, I feel like. Yeah. Patrick and Brittany Mahomes are also up there. Selena Gomez, Sabrina carpenter. All like 80. Max Martin. Are people okay? Of course.

[B]

In Shellbach.

[A]

No way.

[B]

They did.

[A]

This is a co worker.

[B]

You invite your co workers to your wedding.

[A]

Alana Haim. That's mean. Blake Lively. I love that you can predict this stuff on Polymarket. Like, seriously, finally putting my. My skills. And also, you can use code Toast, download the new app Toast, skip the waitlist.

[B]

Oh, I love that. Okay, listen to this.

[A]

Okay, I'm listening.

[B]

I'm so glad you made time to see me.

[A]

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize I was still reading this. I didn't realize we were doing a performance.

[B]

How's life? Okay, tell me, how's your family? Okay, let's get to the chorus.

[A]

I haven't seen you in a while.

[B]

Okay, see, this is it. This is it. So this is me swallowing my pride, Standing in front of you, saying I'm sorry for that night. And I go back to December all the time it turns out freedom ain't nothing but missing you Wishing I'd realized what I had when you were mine I'd go back to December Turn around and make it all right I'd go back to December all the time Then at the end of the song, she says, I go back to December turn around and make it all right I'd go back to December turn around and change my own mind.

[A]

Yeah, right, but. Because in December she said, I don't like you, but she wants to go back to December, change her own mind to say, actually, no, I do like you.

[B]

No, I think it's like. I think that's classic. Like, when you end things with someone, then you, like, look back and you're like, actually, it was good. Like, I wish I could have just, like, liked it, you know?

[A]

You know the streets by the streets. Of course. I mean, the tick tock comment section. I've gotten some. Some personal information. And then I've seen it reflected in, like, other rumors that Taylor and Travis are actually getting married in Big Sky, Montana.

[B]

I've seen that as well.

[A]

And she was also just out and about recently, like today and yesterday, wearing white. And people are like, the wedding is imminent. It's like, why? People just think that because she, like, wore a white dress.

[B]

No seed Montana, now New York City, now the Hamptons, of course, Rhode Island. I think they're. I think they're also putting out a lot of fake news news. And I think that they should. South of France. You know, the girl who's getting married June 13th. And they moved already. Like, it's been going on for so long.

[A]

I think they're putting out Arrowhead stadium.

[B]

Yeah, they. I don't think maybe they won't even get married at any of these places.

[A]

Right. And it'll be like a living room wedding with just Scott, Andrea, and Donna

[B]

and Jason and Kylie.

[A]

Go Birds. Women. Supporting women.

[B]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little more love news?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because Sydney Sweeney has posted a loved up video of her and Scooter Braun on vacation.

[A]

Montage.

[B]

She made a little video montage of their week in Australia. Lots of kissing, dancing, beach going, hand.

[A]

Oh, I didn't realize it was like a week recap of their trip. I just thought it was like a vlog.

[B]

I thought it was like, at first I was like, oh, it's a vlog of like a lot of moments in their time together. But. But no, it's from their most recent trip to Australia. So this is just like one week of their life.

[A]

Their romance is very much giving. Like one of my novels where it's like really handsome Alienaire, who's obsessed with this girl and she's just like a bombshell, but she's like just a normal

[B]

girl with a heart of gold.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's giving like Megan Quinn if

[B]

you know, you know, who wants love. Love and has found it.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's like, it's kind of crazy.

[B]

Like, it's really become like the cutest romance.

[A]

They're gonna get married.

[B]

The cutest ship out in the sea right now.

[A]

They're gonna get married. And I feel like she has a lot of business ventures that I feel are benefiting from her relationship too. You know what I mean? Because I feel like a lot of her career is like being a brand ambassador, launching all these companies, the bathwater thing. Like, I feel like actually up until recently, her career was kind of messy.

[B]

Like she needs someone to come and sort out her.

[A]

She needs a manager.

[B]

Yes. She needs a business manager. I think he is available.

[A]

Yeah. And then she was like launching Siren. It just felt like kind of all

[B]

over the place, very destroyed. Did she need someone to manage her affairs?

[A]

And now it does feel like she's sort of getting her affairs in order.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Siren appears to be like a much more legitimate venture. I loved their pop up at Stagecoach. Like, I feel like that has to be his. His influence and involvement.

[B]

Yeah. And I do think this season of. Of Sephora, Euphoria. Sephora, that was filmed like probably almost a year ago at this point, is sort of like getting in the way because her character, I. I'm seeing so many clips of her character. She's really wild and out, but she

[A]

really is like the main character of this. The entire show is, like, about her.

[B]

Well, from my perspective, it's. The show should be called Cassie Casoria. Casoria. Because it's just her. She grew into a monster. Did you see that? She was like Godzilla taking over the city. She swatted a helicopter with her hair and then she like showed her boobs to the people in the window. Did you see that part?

[A]

No, I didn't. I Must have missed that. Real.

[B]

Yeah, no, last episode looked really crazy. There's been a lot of talk about it, but anyways.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I think she'll be like, last.

[A]

She booked LA Knight.

[B]

Oh, she was on the podcasts with.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And everyone.

[A]

She booked LA Knights.

[B]

What's that?

[A]

Oh, you didn't see those clips. I think it's like a role she really wanted. She got it. I have no idea what's going on in the show, but I think she, like, also stepped on Maude Apatow's like, toes. Like, mod. Apatow, I think, is a writer for, like, this low level TV show and Cassie is, like, staying with her, couch surfing. I don't know. I. I really kind of like, want to watch the show now. It looks really good.

[B]

Yeah, I want.

[A]

I haven't seen Zendaya.

[B]

Oh, I saw Zendaya at the wedding. Oh, Like, Zendaya was, like, buried. Did you see that clip?

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

It was really disturbing. I think Zendaya might be dead. I think they might have killed her.

[A]

Or like, you know, they're always doing,

[B]

like, it's a dream. Yeah. Like, how did she be grow so big? Cassie.

[A]

Yeah. And what does that have to do with the show?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Like, I need to watch. I need to watch.

[B]

But also, the outfit she was wearing was the same night that she did drugs. So maybe it was like a hallucination.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I mean.

[B]

They do.

[A]

And there's a lot of drugs in the show. So, like, I don't know if Rue is sober, but, like, when she was actively in drug addiction, she was always having these, like, dream sequence, like hallucinations.

[B]

I think maybe. I think Rue is maybe dead or

[A]

she like, overdosed in her dreams or something.

[B]

Yeah. But it was a really crazy scene that I saw. Yeah, I see the clips. Literally, the show comes out Sunday night, right?

[A]

Yeah. And then Monday morning.

[B]

Monday morning.

[A]

I love it. Yeah.

[B]

No, I'm really enjoying the season of Euphoria.

[A]

As am I.

[B]

And enjoying the season of Scooter and Sydney. I hope they get married and live happily ever after.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Do you think they'll be invited to the wedding?

[A]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

Let's get into Summer House.

[A]

Okay, so the big driveway fight. I just have. I have one word to say when it comes to the driveway fight.

[B]

Three letters, loser on loser. Crime.

[A]

One word, three letters. Ick. Like, seriously, Carl, like. And I love Bailey because, like, she's a sweet girl and I actually really like her and her saying, like, yeah. Carl getting his veins popping out. It was so hot. He was being so angry. It was so sexy. There are a million words to describe what I felt when I was watching Carl, like, call Kyle a loser, but not one of them was, like, hot or sexy. It was giving. So, like, cringe.

[B]

Like, no, but I actually love Bailey so much. And she's so sweet. The way she described Carl.

[A]

Carl doesn't deserve her.

[B]

Carl does not deserve her. But you know what? Like, if she was really meant that, like, there really is a lid for every pot. Like, maybe she did think that was sexy. Like, I. I want them to be together. She's so cute.

[A]

I believe that they are not together, and it's because Carl doesn't like her. That's just what I feel like. I. Based on what she said, I watch happens live. They're not together. They're not.

[B]

But I hope. I don't know what happens after the summer. But, like, or maybe it's not too late. Maybe they're just, like, both sort of awkward and it's going to take a while to get them off the ground. But he doesn't deserve her. And he. He should. He should strike.

[A]

So the fight about Amanda and Kyle ended up becoming Carl and Kyle. It was so stupid. Like, I seriously. And I do blame Jesse Solomon. Like, he was largely responsible for what happened in that driveway. It was cringe they made up and, like, I don't know where we got left with Amanda and Kyle. Like, it was like, no. No resolution. But of course, there are a couple of nuggets worth discussing when it comes to West's involvement in. Now, I am firmly right now believing that they have not started their affair yet. But I do see the trapings. It's damsel in distress. It's hero, you know, victim up in the tower. Like, she. When she was like, when you moved your chair and she was, like, on, like, the verge of tears, talking to Wes. Like, when you moved your chair and then they had that really long hug and she's like, she's been holding it together the whole time. And then the second she's in West's arms, she starts to cry. Like, no, no. Like, they literally fell in love. It's kind of. It's kind of romantic.

[B]

Like, well, it's really hard not to, like, watch the whole fight, like, through the lens of, like, Amanda's a villainous, traitorous, disloyal liar. Because if all of this West Mandible stuff hadn't happened, we would watch a fight and been like, wow, Kyle is awful. She is, you know, mistreated, and this is terrible. But then when you watch the fight with a little bit of a shrewd eye towards Amanda, she's. She is sitting there snickering when everybody starts to pile. You know what the she, like, is living for at the moment where everyone starts to, like, descend on Kyle and then she sits back and lets it happen. And of course, she doesn't need to defend him because what they're saying are how she feels and things that she's voiced to the girls and now they're taking up for her. But when he said, like, I feel so deserted, like, who would ever sit there at a table while someone piles on your husband? That's your husband, that's your family.

[A]

If I agree with everything they're saying, and if I.

[B]

You'll ride or die if I can't defend you. And I don't want to defend you in any situation ever. Like, that's. That's not love. Like, that's not support. That's not partnership. And so, like, I understand why she has issues with him. I do. If my husband, at 40 plus years old, like, wanting to be a DJ, Travis, like, I. I would not like it. I wouldn't. But there are ways to, like, deal with things. And it's. It's just so weird how they go the whole week in their apartment, I guess, together, and they probably don't speak at all. When Mia was like, I can't imagine what he does at home when no one's here. I think it's nothing. I think these things only reach this level when they're with other people and they have to talk about their issues. I don't think they talk about anything when it's just the two of them. And it's like, is it that he's always. She's like, mad that he's always leaving, right, to go and do his. His shows. But then also she wants time separate from him. Sierra's like, they're on top of each other. They're together all the time. But then she also says he's never home, so I don't know which one it is. And so watching the fight, like, just for, you know, giving Kyle a little bit of, like, the benefit of the doubt. He is spiraling. He is so emotional. He's so hurt. The idea of separating is, like, so painful for him because, like, he actually, like, loves his wife. And yeah, she has a weird way

[A]

of showing it, but he does have love for her.

[B]

She hates him. And what's that like, to be with someone day and day out who hates you, who's always on the other side of things, who doesn't have your back. And then when the rest of the house is sort of piling onto him about other stuff. And he also is literally on the hook for almost $5 million. Like, and his company is going, he can't DJ fast enough to pay his bills. And then he's getting yelled at for DJing. And they're like, why aren't you home having babies with her? And he's like, she doesn't even want babies. Like, and she says one thing and then does another. And it's like that. I, I am very frustrated for him now. He should not say you to his wife. And certainly table in front of people. And the way he goes about everything is wrong and he cannot manage his emotions. And like you, I, I don't have time for people who can't like, control their.

[A]

No. The only time he opens up is in an angry way. Like, that's bad.

[B]

No. And like that he could not calm down. Like, excuse me, sir, like, you're in your 40s, regulate please. Like, let's. But also, drinking doesn't help. They said he was like on the blacking out. So, like stop drinking so much if you're like in such an emotional fragile state. But I did have, like, I felt bad, I felt sorry for him because he, he's so distraught.

[A]

Yeah. And I do want to say, like, it's just so obvious. Like, obviously he's bad, he's wrong, he's yelling, he's DJing. But to a certain point, and I certainly don't want to victim blame, but like, in a marriage like that, like people like Kyle gets away with all this stuff because there's a precedent here, right? It's six or seven years of her, like really not demanding anything from her husband. Like, not that it's a woman's job, but like, men are just sort of aimless. And I feel like when they get into a marriage, like, like they really become men and they get their lives together, so to speak, and they know how to act. And it's like this is a 7 year long or 10 year long relationship where it's like there's been really no accountability on Kyle for any of his actions. He is not been like demanded to be a good partner or a good husband. So obviously he keeps doing like this. Like, seriously, what do we expect?

[B]

Yeah. Also like, I think last season they had that conversation where she like said for the first time on camera, that she didn't know if she wanted kids. And I imagine for him, like, that was a major betrayal. Not a betrayal, like a big turning point for him, like, where it's like. Because if they had. Had started to have kids, like, last summer, then they would have all of these issues while they would still be there. They would have been on to the next. You know, they might have, like, moved out of the city and started a family and been focused on those things. And. And he, you know, he's not going to actually DJ multiple nights a week when you have a child. That would be like.

[A]

Like insane.

[B]

Insane. And so if we're not doing that, then why can't I go and DJ all the time and try and make money and work on my career? Like, seriously, why do I need to sit at home and look at what

[A]

else are we doing? Yeah.

[B]

And it's not like there's other things that she wants me. It's not like you have to have a kid or you have to go be a dj, but it's like, what do I need to stay home for? Why can't I go out and work?

[A]

But, like, to have that conversation for the first time, like, that revelation on tv. That's what I meant when I said betrayal. Like, that's insane.

[B]

Oh, to have that on tv. But also, like, I think. Think if anyone not on TV or in general, like, if you marry someone, and it always is, like, we're gonna. I'm marrying someone who wants to have kids because I want to have kids. And whether it's the man or the woman who at some point says, like, I don't know if I want to have kids, like, that must just be so destabilizing.

[A]

Devastating. Yeah.

[B]

So I. I just think that now,

[A]

although all that to say, I don't think Kyle Cook is, like, itching, you know, to get pregnant right now.

[B]

No, no. But if that. Once that was sort of taken off the map and that's not your North Star, well, then, sure, let's go left, right, down, back, forwards, right. No, but seriously, like, what does she need? She doesn't like him. So why do you want him home every night? You don't. You don't actually. You don't want him every night. So you just, like, want to complain that he's out DJing, like, trying to, like, piece together a living.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I also. What. What else to say? Like, I actually. When he was, like, seriously, like, frantic in the closet, like, breaking down the closet, putting on the ugliest outfit I Ever saw in my life and apologize to her. He couldn't even put together an outfit. Just want to say, like, I actually felt sorry for this person whose life is falling apart on every front. And I'm sure Amanda handles her emotions differently, but I also now have to look at her through the lens of I don't even know a crazy person like you. Literally, I just saw the scene where she said she out of nowhere, like, nobody. Nobody, Amanda. I would die for Sierra if. If she told me to kill Wes, I would kill him on site.

[A]

Yeah, but she actually. What she actually said was that I would never talk to him again if she asked me not to. And so, like, okay, but you had sex with him.

[B]

I think she said she would kill him if.

[A]

No, no, she said she would cut him off.

[B]

Oh, I thought. I thought she said.

[A]

Maybe she meant, like, cut his head off.

[B]

Yeah, I thought she said, like, Sierra looked at me, like, gave me the sign I would kill him. Like, oh.

[A]

I thought if Sierra gave me the sign to cut him off, like, I would stop talking to him and never, like, speak to my God.

[B]

Oh, whichever one. They're both very extreme. It's like, nobody even asked her to say something like that to, like, so to go from that to, like, six months later that you're falling in love with him is just really crazy. So. So when she's in bed with, like, Mia and Sierra. Sierra, and it's hard not to, like, you know, look deeper into the way she's reacting, you know, Whereas before West Mandeville, I would have just been like, wow, she is just so numb.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She must have been through this so many times. Her husband says, you at the table, and I didn't even see a tear, you know?

[A]

Yeah. She was just sort of like, yeah. Oh.

[B]

But it did also justice for Kyle cook says was that it was part of her big, you know, gone girl.

[A]

Right. That's justice for Kyle Cook.

[B]

The Twitter accounts, these little fires. She knows Kyle's gonna explode and give her. Her the exact reaction that she wants on camera, and then she walks away like that woman coming home drenched in blood after staging her own kidnapping.

[A]

I respect justice for Kyle Cook's, like, creativity, Although I think they're giving Amanda Batula, like, far too much credit because

[B]

kid is justice for Kyle Cook. Oh, she also calls Kyle cook America's dandy.

[A]

What?

[B]

Like that he's America's dandy.

[A]

What does that mean, dandy?

[B]

Like, like. I don't know, like, his, like, our, like, handsome boy.

[A]

And when she says our who Is she referring to. Because that's not me.

[B]

The country. He's like America's sweetheart.

[A]

She thinks, okay, okay. Justin this.

[B]

Yeah. But so she. Justice thinks it's like a years long. Griff, that Amanda's been playing long play game to walk away from her marriage to Kyle Cook with him looking like the villain and her looking like the victim. Just like in Gone Girl.

[A]

Just like in Gone Girl.

[B]

Like leaving these breadcrumbs.

[A]

That's beautiful.

[B]

What else happened? Jesse Solomon made me sad. Like, he needs a girlfriend and he had one.

[A]

He lost her.

[B]

So why would anyone, like, give him the time of day?

[A]

Yeah, I like, I love. I simultaneously love him and can't stand him.

[B]

You know what? I'm back to loving him. I will always be Alexi Truther.

[A]

After the video of the girl falling like I love.

[B]

He needs our support.

[A]

You know, I will always be Alexi Truth.

[B]

And I would love to. We should have him on. On Namesake. Because we can. And I was our aunt. Yeah. Because of our aunt. So we. We're no longer having guests on the toast. Like, if we're ever having a conversation with someone, they will come on Namesake.

[A]

It will be like a. Namesake won't be release monthly or weekly. It will be released when it has to be.

[B]

It will be when we feel like it's as needed.

[A]

Yes. On an as needed basis.

[B]

Some episodes could be as short as five minutes. It's like, I have a couple questions for Jesse Solomon, you know, and one of them, like, would be like, do you regret. Like, do you have any apologies for Lexi? Do you have any. I would just, like, Like, I don't

[A]

think that he does.

[B]

I would like an awareness that he, like, ruined that girl's life and then we can move forward in harmony.

[A]

That's beautiful.

[B]

So I. I just would like to know that. So let's get Namesake up and running.

[A]

Done. Oh, well, the place looks great. It. Oh, genuinely always does. Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast of Monday morning show. We deal with fast factors, Monday, Friday and YouTube. Super watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe because video thumbs up are also available as podcast and more podcast. We found so Spotify Tune station public video podcast. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow.

[B]

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