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Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the toes and happy Friday. Yay. It is Friday, the last day of the week.
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Bye, daries. Bye, dairies.
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Hope everybody had an amazing week, is
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ready for an amazing episode and an amazing weekend. I feel like it's going to be
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in the lofty today. I don't know why. We have Real housewives of Beverly Hills. We have Queenie and Weenie.
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We have, like, good stories. We've got a lot to talk about. We obviously have to talk about ourselves.
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Right. I feel like we're, like, both a little. I'm. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm feeling, like, slow moving, you know?
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Yeah. I'm a little bit sick. Yeah, I cough a little.
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She's a little bit good.
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I actually sneeze a little. I can't be outside. My allergies are so bad. Plus, I have, like, a tickle in my throat of whatever's going around. So, like, this Friday is all I have left of me in the gas in the tank is on Friday mode.
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Something I'm not, like, I don't talk about enough and that I really should, like, kind of journal about. And gratitude journal is that I don't have allergies. I feel like there are two types of people in this world living completely different existences. Like, people who have seasonal allergies and people who don't.
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It's just a couple weeks stretch, you know, the rest of the year, we're having the same existence. Don't worry too hard. But, like, you can literally see, like, pollen on the cars. It's falling off the trees. I was, like, outside yesterday talking to someone. I'm like, we've got to bring this inside. I was sneezing up a storm. Yeah, but go inside and you're okay. Ish.
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That is crazy.
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Yeah. Just like, you can spend cutie outside at the moment maybe.
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Like, I feel like it's a bigger deal because I live with Ben. Ben.
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Like, everything for Ben is allergies.
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And I don't know if, like, Ben has talked about it, maybe talks about on the good guys. And you guys know he has. He talking about his Zyrtec withdrawal. Yeah.
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And brain fog. He.
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Oh, my God. Brain fog is actually a trigger word for me because it's now, like a. It's a word Now I feel like it's in a lot of our ads.
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Like, it's a sponsor. He was actually here that day.
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It's a buzzy word, but, like, Ben has been talking about brain fog for, like, 10 years, but he didn't know the right medical phrase for it. So he was always trying to describe to me how he felt. Just, like, blurry. And I'm like. Like, literally, I have. I have memories of, like, us in our first apartment, like, being just boyfriend or girlfriend. Like, when I tell you I can't talk about brain fog. Like, it's so deeply, personally triggering for me.
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But it turned out it was the Zyrtec he was taking every day.
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Well, he thinks it's always like, every day Ben wakes up, he's like, I found the source of my brain frog today. The brain fog was from Zyrtec, which apparently causes brain fog. Like, I can't. I literally can't. Please don't say that word in front of me.
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I haven't been taking allergy medication because he, like, kind of scared me off of Zyrtec. I also feel like I read something else about, and I don't know, I just feel like less is more. So I'm just. I'm hitting the Advil. Yeah, I take a little Advil.
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One thing about me, like, when my time comes and they, like, open up my body because obviously I will be studied by science. Like, I'm going to be all Advil.
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Will you dedicate your body to science?
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Religiously, I don't believe we are allowed to, like, become cadavers. Like, we have to be one with the soil. Like, we can't be cremated. There's a lot of rules, actually, in Judaism about how you die. No, not die. How you, like, be dead, live after death. Yeah, how you be dead, how you be dead? And I don't like that. I don't think we can become cadavers. And I just know if I was a cadaver, like, the medical student who got me would be a toaster. And, like, you know, it would be exciting.
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You would have hope.
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Do you think anybody has ever recognized the cadaver being, like, oh, my, this was my third grade, like, middle school teacher or whatever?
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Yes. I think anything is possible. So I would say in the history of the world, one time, at least someone recognized their cadaver.
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I want to interview that person.
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But you could donate yourself in other ways.
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Although I feel like when you donate your body to science, like, they move you. Like, you never are, like, out of state. You're never, like, at the medical school of your local town?
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1,000%. Definitely. Odds are slim, but I imagine that it's happening.
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It's. Oh, for sure.
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Yeah.
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I feel like that would have been like major news.
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I don't know.
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I don't know. Doctor patient confidentiality, does that also apply to the cadavers?
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Like, if it was just your third grade teacher, it's like, is that major news?
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I feel like that's got to be one of the worst parts of being a doctor. Like going through the process, the cadaver era. Like you're just around dead bodies so much.
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I don't think.
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You don't. Do you think you would be affected?
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Yeah. I'm not a doctor.
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Why not?
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It's not for me. Do you more teacher.
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You are such a teacher. Was there ever a time in your life where you thought, like, maybe you would become a doctor?
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Never. Not once.
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Me neither.
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I feel like a lot of people think they're going to be a doctor.
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Yeah. Like they're on that pre med track.
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Yeah. They have to do something with all their smarts. I never experienced that sort of being smart. Yeah. Because I was an idiot.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I feel that.
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Yeah.
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But I'm sure, like Olivia, she probably felt to her, like, should I be a doctor?
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Yeah. Olivia was like very, very scholastically smart when we were growing up. She was like an a, A student.
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I would imagine, like she had considered at some point being a doctor. Like, even for a brief moment, I never, not.
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It never came up.
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Like I didn't have the grades that.
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You're gonna be a podcaster or influencer. Yeah, podcaster. That is crazy also how, like kids these days, like when they. What they say when they want to be when they grow up is like us. We're so inspirational.
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For now. Everyone's having a hard time with it, don't you find?
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With influencing or with us influencers?
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No, not us. Everyone else.
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Influencers are having influen.
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Influencers are always having a hard time.
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Try being an influencer for a day. Try it.
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I don't feel that way.
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Like, who are you referring to?
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I just, I feel like all influencers are unwell.
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You mean like mental health?
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Mental health.
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Oh, for sure.
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You know, they're struggling. This and that.
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Yeah.
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Unless they find that, like, struggling is good content, so they just like share that more. But I do feel like they're not overwhelmingly, like, happy and fulfilled. Don't you find? If you think about influencers at a
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glance or like I'm thinking about influencers,
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that I know I can think of a couple influencers who I feel like are happy influencers.
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What it is, actually, I think what I think of the people that I know who are, like, happy people and also influencers and, like, are happy in their lives. It's the people who have been doing it for, like, 100 years and who, like, very slowly over time became really successful. I think, like, the girls who are struggling are the girls who blew up on TikTok. Like, that's so bad for your health. TikTok is so bad. It happened too quickly. Like, the younger people who would happen kind of unnaturally for. When I think about, like, my friends who are influencers, like Lauren Elizabeth, like, over time, years and years, been in the game. I think she's like, very headstrong. Taylor Strecker, people who just developed, not, like, slowly. Yeah. I think the girls who, like, blew up on Tick Tock are like, in hell. So if you ever are jealous like that you didn't blow up on Tick Tock. Just know, like, it's not all it's cracked out to be.
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Check on your local influencer.
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Check on your local Tick Tocker.
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She needs a hug.
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Try. Be an influencer for, say, try it.
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We have each other, you know.
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Oh, you and I. Yeah. We are not talking about us.
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No, not. No.
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And also, I really. I don't consider myself an influencer.
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You're so silly. Like what?
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Like, I do brand deals and stuff, obviously, but that's not what I get up every day and do. I'm a podcaster.
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You're an influencer. Like, sorry to tell you, I'm not.
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Like, I'm not really are. I'm an author. I'm a singer, obviously.
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Because all of those things. Because you're an influencer.
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Because I'm a podcaster.
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Because you're an influencer.
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Like, I was cast on the Masked Singer because, like, I have such a successful podcast.
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Claudia, why don't you want to be an influencer?
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I would. In addition, I'm obviously a Tick Tocker too.
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You have a podcast. You have a book. Like.
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Yes. Like, I guess the way I came up. Like, I have a podcast because I'm an influencer, but, like, now the podcast has eclipsed everything.
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Yeah, but even people who are podcasters, except for, like, Joe Rogan. Would you say, like, you have to give me an example, like, Alex Cooper is an influencer?
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No. Would you?
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I don't. I never thought about it.
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She ain't. She don't do brand deals.
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She's like, she doesn't she doesn't do brand deals.
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She is, I think she would call herself, like, a founder, you know, a
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leader, a thought leader.
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But I think she's a podcaster, and I don't think that's crazy to say. And JB podcast every single day. Sorry, we're actually not influencers. Rats. I know. I just want to say I am a tick tocker.
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Oh, oh, okay.
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But outside of that, like, yeah, we're just podcasters who do other things. Of course.
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But, like, hyphen it correct that we're influencers. I just want you to know, like,
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I mean, we do influence, like, generations. Of course.
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Yeah. Okay. Sound off in the comments. Are we influencers?
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Don't.
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Don't sound off in the comments.
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Smile. Don't smile.
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I feel like anytime I've asked someone to sound off in the comments, like, they just don't.
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Oh, yeah. Whatever happened to sounding off in the comments?
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There was a question. I posed the other. Oh, I guess nobody saw my.
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I saw one person say she was looking for your shirt, and she ended up on the Colgate alumni website. I saw one girl being like, yeah, I thought it was a cute shirt. Next thing I know, I'm, like, signing up for courses.
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Okay. Yeah, thanks for letting me know.
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Yeah.
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And did she think, like, it was a glitch or she recognized my error.
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She. And then she said she didn't want to be, like, annoying and send you a message because that's also annoying.
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And I hate, like, my stomach dropped, of course, girl.
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You. Why'd you post that? Yeah. Oh, my God.
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I'm glad that I experienced it the way that I did because I just had a chuckle as opposed to someone be like, you posted the wrong link.
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Right? And it went to, like, a dark tweet or something.
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Oh, my God. That's a new nightmare. Like, unlocked. Totally posting the wrong link.
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Totally.
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So many sensitive materials out there. It honestly could have been so much worse.
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You watched your Housewives of Beverly Hills last night.
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No, I didn't. I did not.
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We were texting about it this morning.
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No, I shared my thoughts about what you guys were texting about, but I actually was going to try something today and, like, pretend like I watched it and see if I could get away.
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You definitely could have, because I would just, like, talk the whole time.
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A fake recap. And I could have been like, that was crazy.
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I'll tell you what happened. Nothing.
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But the last few weeks, I've, like, killed myself to watch it on Thursday. Thursdays, and you haven't even watched It.
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Yeah, no, I'm all caught up. Sorry.
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I have to tell you, I. I fear as though, like, binge culture has affected my viewing of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Like, it's not passing muster for week to week viewing. I'm like, we're still talking about this. Like, I don't always.
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That's what Ben said. He was like, we're still in Italy.
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I don't always feel that way about my weekly shows like Traders, but I failed to, like, keep up pace, and not enough is changing week to week to justify watching it once a week, so.
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And I think we probably have a story today about Sarah Michelle Geller.
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We she.
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A lot of people are saying that it's, like, a boring season I'm having, like, to really enjoy it. And I'm the first person to, like, call things boring. Maybe I'm just in, like, a slow season of my life. And so, like, a slow show was just like.
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And the people that you like. And it's not that it's boring. I just, like, I'm not, like, captivated by it, like, on the edge of my seat. What happens next? If I were binging it at the end of the season, like, watching it on Peacock or whatever, I think I would be like, oh, my God, this is amazing.
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Yeah.
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But watching it week to week is just, like, not pulling me in. But, yeah, let's talk about. That's a story. And that will lead into the TV recap that you'll do.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Because I'm not gonna lie and pretend like I watched just to see if I could get away with it.
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Because you're not a liar, and that's why people believe you. Right.
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And it's important not to lie.
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I agree.
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One day I'm gonna tell my truth.
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Oh, God.
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I'm co chair, and I hope you'll believe me.
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I feel like when the time comes that you write a memoir, for a while we thought it would be like Memoirs of a Streisand, but I think, like, now if you were to write a book, it has to be like, my co journer Truth.
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Yeah. Or like Corjar sisters.
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It's truth. I love that. Today we're joined by cojourners. There's truth. I love that.
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I love it. Okay, without further ado to do. To do, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.
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Thank you, Tisa.
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You're welcome, Jisa.
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Our first story, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey have their first award show date night at the iHeartRadio Music Awards towards the iHeartRadio Music Awards for last. Allegedly Taylor Swift attended. She walked the carpet without Travis, but then Travis joined her in the audience. It was the first time that they were spotted together at an award show. Very Kylie and Timothy.
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Yeah, like never the obvious choice like an award show. People know what's happening.
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David's right.
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Exactly. It felt really crazy to like see them together. The thing about Taylor that I will genuinely never. I think I do understand it, but it's so weird how famous she is. I would say this might ruffle some others, but like, just for context, would you say she's more famous than Beyonce? I don't know.
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No, they're the same. Okay, so there's in a tier like Kim Kardashian where globally the entire world
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knows who they are. Okay. Beyonce goes to nothing. Literally. She went to the Grammys and I still thought it was crazy that she was there. It's like, why is she like lowering herself to attend the Grammys? It's so crazy. Why Taylor goes to like all these fakta Ward shows. Like, she goes to like the teen Choice. Like, she has so many weird attendance at random award shows when she's so much better than that. And I think it's because she's like a smart businesswoman. I heart radio, controls all the radio. She releases singles, she wants big radio hits. She would have it without it. Like, she really would. I think she's also very, like grateful to them for I think they were one of the first big radio stations to like commit to playing exclusively Taylor's versions. So she just like honors relationships and I think that's like, really admirable. But it is really crazy for her to be at this, like low bar award show. Like, the other most famous person was like Alex Warren. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah. I also think she likes being in like safe, controlled environments and there's not going to be like a bunch of big stars there that she has like, beef with. It's just like, I'm going, I'm going to get my picture, I'm going to get my award. I'll be able to make a speech if I have something I want to promote. If I'm test driving Travis and I at an award show, this is a good one to do it. There's not like a lot of factors and variables that she can't control. Like, yeah, I feel like this is a nice way to get your photo taken. Wear nice dress. It's just so unearthous. You're going to win, like, it's just a very.
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She accepted an award for best just tour style. Like, it's just so not serious.
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Yeah.
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It's almost like a high school superlative.
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Yeah.
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Most likely to slay the Aristar Taylor Swift. Like, it's so random. Yeah, I get it though. Like, it. I get it. I also think like a stat she really prides herself on is being like the most awarded female artist in history. And like these, when you go, she won all eight of the awards that she was gonna win. Maybe she would have won two or three if she wasn't there because, like, she's sort of like, is the obvious winner. But like now she's whatever. I think she has like 300 awards.
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I. I actually mean to give her more credit than that because that would be incredibly stupid if it's all about being the most awarded.
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You know, she does love, like holding these.
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So why did you go to the Shorty Awards and the Webbies?
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She literally did last night.
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Like, yeah, no, but like, I. I'M gonna give her more credit. I think that if that's really how she's measuring herself, like, she's lost the plot. And I don't think that she has. I think it's more so about, like, relationships in radio and, like, a controlled night out with her mans where you're not walking over landmines everywhere you go.
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Yeah. Ex boyfriends, ex friends.
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Yeah. It's just like the Taylor Swift show. That's fun.
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It is a Taylor Swift show and
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it was the I Heart Taylor.
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But she's at the level that, like, wherever she goes is the Taylor Swift show. She can be in a room with all the most famous people.
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The Grammys. Not always.
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Yes, always the Grammys.
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No, she went to one Grammys where she was just sort of like, what's she doing?
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Which one? What did she wear?
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I think it was the midnight one,
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which you wore all blue.
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Yeah.
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She literally won. So, like.
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No, no, but, like, she was just, like, random in the audience.
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Like, I think, like, for that, like, she was just craving a night out.
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Yeah, but the Mecca, like, the biggest events. She's not always going to be, like, the top dog, even though she pretty much is. But, like, she might not feel that way. You don't know how it feels to walk into a room filled with, like, the most famous people in the world. And, like, she has, you know, I feel like she has her insecurities.
- [18:01]
A
No. And people are, like, in the industry, like, always trying to, like, make statements about, like, whatever waste. And, like, they use Taylor Swift, like, for business. And her brother.
- [18:10]
B
She doesn't want to go and see Billy.
- [18:11]
A
Right. Like, people who are just, like, literally, like, Chapel row only get a text. Tension and clicks when they're like, like,
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B
wants to make their bones on her.
- [18:18]
A
They do. That's true.
- [18:19]
B
You don't know what it's like to walk in a room as her and, like, all the things that are running through her mind.
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A
Yeah.
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B
This is an easy night out where she doesn't have to worry about those things.
- [18:27]
A
It's really crazy that she brought Travis. Like, obviously that's her fiance and he's different than all the men from the past. But, like, there was literally only one other time that she brought a boyfriend to an award show and it was Calvin Harris.
- [18:36]
B
Well, because he was probably going anywhere.
- [18:37]
A
He was probably nominated. Yeah.
- [18:38]
B
That's cute. She should do it more. Like, I don't know why they make us. Her and Kylie make us wait till 3 years to see you on a red carpet with your man's like, you guys are together every day. Like, why are you starving us?
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A
Yeah. I think a lot of it is about, like, not wanting to pull attention from the person and the project. I agree. I. I agree.
- [18:54]
B
As if Marty supreme to get enough attention. As if Taylor doesn't get enough attention
- [18:58]
A
and as if, like Travis could steal attention from Taylor.
- [19:01]
B
I just want to say I'm no longer accepting that I agree.
- [19:05]
A
Like, well, I think, like, in her previous relationship, like, it was definitely a point of contention that like, he wouldn't like, he. He had his own ego things because he actually wasn't famous or known as anything other than Taylor says fiance. So he like really felt like he needed to make another. And so I think maybe she has like trauma from the past relationship from that.
- [19:21]
B
But that's not fair to like, put on Travis, dump your trump. Like, it should be tabula rasa.
- [19:26]
A
She looks pretty.
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B
Like, pretty.
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A
She never like, slays the house down boots style wise.
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B
I actually thought that this was a
- [19:32]
A
slay and a perfectly appropriate outfit for this like weird mid level award show.
- [19:36]
B
And for it's kind of t los colors.
- [19:39]
A
Yeah. And I was thinking that it honoring and also the corset is like very showgirl. Sometimes, like, her outfit signals that like a new era is beginning. But this to me, this outfit said, girl, sit down. Another album's not coming for a while.
- [19:51]
B
Yeah. Or it could be the segue between showgirl and the bridal album.
- [19:56]
A
Right.
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B
Which would be like corset.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, there is something bridal, bridal about this.
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A
Right.
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B
Like it's not.
- [20:02]
A
That's. That's like the after party dress.
- [20:04]
B
So perhaps that's what's next. She needs to write an album of love songs next mixed.
- [20:09]
A
She writes like, no all love songs,
- [20:11]
B
but they're also like hate songs. And like.
- [20:13]
A
Yeah, of course.
- [20:13]
B
But like just like a love letter.
- [20:16]
A
Yeah.
- [20:16]
B
That's what it should be called.
- [20:17]
A
That's like what lover was. And it was supposed to be because, like, at that point when she wrote it, like, her, like, she wasn't ever gonna date again. Maybe they weren't ever gonna get married. About Joe, like, lover was okay.
- [20:28]
B
But it's fine because that's not how I see it. So don't worry about it. And like, she also had I forgot that you existed which is a hate song. So it wasn't entirely just like.
- [20:34]
A
No.
- [20:35]
B
All positive To Travis.
- [20:37]
A
It was nice to see her out on like a random Thursday night.
- [20:39]
B
Yeah.
- [20:39]
A
She should leave the house more. Yeah.
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B
Are you ready for our next story? Mormon wives Drama. Okay. With Jesse Draper. So allegedly, Mormon wives. Jesse draper kissed Chase McWhorter at a party. That's Miranda's ex husband. Chase is now in dad Talk. He's on the show. If you watch the show, you know, these people are.
- [20:57]
A
All of this drama unfolded on social media last night, and we're all just, like, using context clues to piece together what we believe happened.
- [21:02]
B
Yes. So Dumois posted that Jesse was spotted kissing Chase, and then Miranda posted that Jesse sent her flowers, like, sort of like apologizing flowers, that these came out. And then I read somewhere this morning, and I have no idea where I read it, and if it's remotely true that, like, Chase had come clean to Miranda, that, like, he had been talking to Jesse and that they kissed, and then Jesse only reached out to Miranda
- [21:22]
A
once he found out. I saw. I read that too.
- [21:23]
B
Okay. So I. I think that that's true.
- [21:26]
A
To me, this is giving really manufactured. It's giving. We want the filming pause to return. I think they think maybe they don't get to continue filming because even Jesse was saying, like, if the show continues, like, I think they think that might not ever come back. And, like, they want to prove that, like, without Taylor, Frankie, like, there's still a lot going on. We're still all hooking up with whatever. And it felt so manufactured to me, not to adding that it didn't happen, but, like, all the drama, like, sharing the flowers in the note on Instagram is, like, really crazy.
- [21:55]
B
I hope that's what it is.
- [21:56]
A
This isn't doing it for me.
- [21:57]
B
I just. I want to say I hope that's what it is, because if Jesse really left Jordan to go smooch Chase.
- [22:02]
A
Yeah. Who's awful.
- [22:04]
B
Stay with Jordan.
- [22:05]
A
Chase does not get enough hate. We said it when we were recapping the show, but, like, so much has happened since then. When they replayed that clip of what he went on a podcast saying about me. Macy.
- [22:13]
B
It was his podcast.
- [22:14]
A
Sorry, his podcast.
- [22:14]
B
He started a podcast. What did we say? Only dad, right?
- [22:17]
A
To, like, rebut all this on the girls and. No. And ride their coattails. Like, he is truly awful. So, I mean, Jesse obviously has bad taste in men like Marciano Jordan. But, like, you would think, like, she would learn if true. Like, big L for Jesse.
- [22:34]
B
Yeah.
- [22:34]
A
Because Chase and I feel like Chase has tried to rebrand himself. Like, it happens a lot on Tick Tock, so. I know you don't know, but, like, he comments on all the girls. Stephanie leaves, like, really funny comments, and it's like, he's becoming, like, everybody's, like, looking. The comments on the Mormon wise Instagrams are, like, looking for Chase's comment, like, making about himself. Making about himself. And I just want to say, like, he is awful. Like, I don't forget. I don't think his content is, like, cute or funny. And he, like, makes a lot of, like, pro Miranda content because people love Miranda. So it's like you fumbled it. Like, I just. He doesn't get enough hate. He sucks. Like, don't let his rebrand wash over you.
- [23:03]
B
He's doing just like, whatever he, the audience wants. I think when he was like, clowning on the girls and starting his podcast, he was like, trying to, like, take that attention and like, you know, be above them. But now he realizes he can just, like, ride their coattails into the sunset. And I'm not fooled. And are there no other men in Utah? I. I hope this is manufactured because I would be like, wait, Jesse, seriously, you're leaving Jordan for the. For more of this.
- [23:26]
A
When I say manufactured, like, I do believe it happened, but I think, like, with the intention of blowing it up. Like, it's so, like, you have to remember these are like women with multiple children who are, like, in their 30s. That's not how you don't, like, post your flowers. You know what I mean? Like, the posting of the note felt so breaking the fourth wall. I think that they're worried that the filming pause is permanent.
- [23:49]
B
Okay.
- [23:49]
A
And like, now they're talking about new spin offs.
- [23:51]
B
Okay?
- [23:51]
A
So leaving them behind.
- [23:52]
B
So then do what you need to do to get your show back and running.
- [23:55]
A
And to anyone at Hulu listening, like, stopping the show in its entirety because of Dakota and Taylor, Frankie, Paul, and punishing everyone else is a bad idea, especially given, like, the platform the show is on now. It's like national news. They're talking about it everywhere. There is definitely a show without Dakota and Taylor. They have recently become, like, my least favorite parts of the show. I don't need either of them. I don't need you to take a stand and film with just Dakota or film with just like, I want neither of them.
- [24:15]
B
But I also had heard that the women were the reason why production had at first.
- [24:19]
A
So she was talking about it on Caller Daddy. She didn't explain it well because I still don't understand it. But there were, like, two pauses. The first was the girls asking because they were afraid about, like, stuff coming out they didn't want to. And then. And then the executive said yes. And then they're like, let's do a bigger pause when the video came out. Okay. Now it's like, now they're waiting to be told. Cameras back up.
- [24:37]
B
Okay.
- [24:37]
A
Yeah.
- [24:38]
B
Well, I do feel like we're ready. And not just because Jesse kissed Chase, but, like.
- [24:41]
A
No. Like, in spite of it.
- [24:43]
B
Yeah.
- [24:44]
A
Like, I don't care, but for other people.
- [24:45]
B
Like, maybe they need. These sorts of things are eating this up.
- [24:48]
A
And I feel like. Am I being cynical? This is so staged and, like, silly to me. Like, they're being so not subtle in their motives.
- [24:56]
B
Yeah.
- [24:57]
A
But people are like, oh, my God, talk about this. I'm like, I feel like it's not a real.
- [25:02]
B
Yeah.
- [25:02]
A
I don't know why. Maybe I'm wrong.
- [25:03]
B
I'm just not, like, that invested in this.
- [25:07]
A
Yeah.
- [25:08]
B
In particular. But I'm invested in the show, so.
- [25:10]
A
I also hate, like, Jesse giving Jordan, like, anything to say. Do you know what I mean?
- [25:14]
B
Yeah.
- [25:14]
A
Like, he. She kissed Marciano. She's so funny. She's like a third grader just kissing everyone. She kissed Marciano and he held it over her and blackmailed her for literally two years. And now he's, like, commenting on Tick Tocks, like, you know, like, he feels justified. Like, I hate that she did that.
- [25:28]
B
You know, I wonder what it is then, because she has, like, a good head on her shoulders. Have you seen She's Got a Plan?
- [25:34]
A
It happens on Tick Tock. So I have to. There was a clip from this season of Jordan. All the girls are talking about Demi coming to the premiere of Secret Lives and More Minds, but then, like, not staying in the house with them, not filming with them, and how it's, like, annoying that, like, she's sort of using the name in the mom talk without actually participating. And Jordan, of course, like, interjects in the conversation and honestly gives, like, a really sort of, like, queen, like, fruity, like, performance, like, monologue and sit with the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but she's not filming. Have you seen that? I have to show it to you. People are recreating it now. I have to tell you, I thought it when I was watching it. I'm like, that's like a really weird Jordan Salamo theatrical. Yeah. Okay.
- [26:15]
B
I think I know exactly the moment you're talking about, but I have.
- [26:17]
A
Okay, ready?
- [26:23]
B
I want to watch it. Give me the phone.
- [26:25]
A
Put the thing in the microphone, though.
- [26:29]
C
She doesn't want to film.
- [26:30]
A
Right. But then she goes on Dancing with the Stars on live television, and she has no problem coming out in her
- [26:35]
C
dress and sitting with the Secret Lives of Mormon lives.
- [26:40]
A
Isn't that crazy? It is one of my favorite things that's happening on the Internet right now. And checking. She has no problem coming out and sitting with the Secret Lives of Mormon. He's like Whitney on Broadway. Like, but she's not filming. Like, he. And the thing is, and I saw somebody say this in a comment, I was cracking up. All the girls were sitting there, like, saying that they said it. He just like, repackaged what they had already said and like steamrolled over the conversation and like, thought he slayed. And Layla's like, yeah, we just said that. Like, he's like, he's so crazy. But she has no problem coming out and sitting with the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. But she's not filming. We have to make that TikTok after this. The best thing I've ever saw. Let's make that TikTok after.
- [27:27]
B
Oh my God, I'm cracking up. I know. A rare W for Jordan.
- [27:32]
A
Correct.
- [27:32]
B
Oh my gosh. Well, also, like Jesse and Harry Jowsey.
- [27:36]
A
Yeah. He was then sharing their dms where they were just like voice memoing each other back and forth, like flirtatiously. Nothing happened. But it was kind of a bad day for Jesse.
- [27:46]
B
Yeah. Because she had cited that conversation with Harry Jowsey on Call Her Daddy. Just being like, he broke into my Instagram and was looking at my DMs with Harry and then like berated her because of it. And then Harry, Chelsea posted their voice notes, which I don't know why he did. I didn't get a chance to listen to all them. But yeah, I guess if like, you're married and you're back and forth things okay.
- [28:06]
A
But you're married to the devil. Just. Right. Right.
- [28:08]
B
But like, you're still married.
- [28:09]
A
You're married to like the prison warden,
- [28:10]
B
but you're married and you're like dming back and forth with like an eligible single guy.
- [28:16]
A
No, Jesse, like, is an elementary schooler. Like, she loves to flirt and kids
- [28:20]
B
had a crush on Harry. Josie.
- [28:21]
A
But like, I think she likes attention from boys.
- [28:23]
B
Husband would be like, but that's inappropriate.
- [28:26]
A
She also speaks about this a lot.
- [28:28]
B
Unless she sees Harry Jowsey like a son.
- [28:30]
A
No, like you, she speaks about this a lot in regards when she gets questions about like, why she gets so much work on her face and plastic surgery. She has like, like deep, deep rooted insecurity, like self esteem issues. And like, I feel like that really does manifest itself a lot where like, you just seek out attention from other.
- [28:45]
B
Yeah. For her it wasn't about, like, stepping out on her marriage. It was just, like, about getting attention with a cool guy.
- [28:51]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [28:54]
B
Our next story.
- [28:55]
A
But she's not filming.
- [28:56]
B
Oh, my God. That seriously made my day. Like, that's when the Internet.
- [29:00]
A
It's the best.
- [29:00]
B
Yeah, it's worth it. I like to destroys the world. At least.
- [29:04]
A
At least we saw that. Yeah.
- [29:07]
B
Our next story. Summer House feud rumors. Apparently besties Amanda Batool and Sierra Miller are feuding amid West Wilson hookup rumors. So we said this last week. There was rumors that it was debunked
- [29:19]
A
almost instantly, but there was rumors that
- [29:21]
B
Amanda and West had hooked up and, like, were spotted together. And we were just like, there's literally no way. Because I was thinking about Kyle, but Sierra. But Sierra is her best friend.
- [29:31]
A
But now the rumors are recirculating and even more so that it's really fractured Amanda and Sierra's relationship.
- [29:37]
B
Yes. Also, they were scheduled to film a joint Amazon Live.
- [29:40]
A
That's really fueling a lot of people. It was announced as, like, this joint project, and they ended up doing two separate lives separately, like, in different locations.
- [29:46]
B
Yeah, I feel like. I feel like that's not necessarily a smoking gun because I feel like if they were feuding, they would actually just put it aside and do the live because, like, you're not gonna be like, oh, we're not talking right now. We can't work. Like, you signed a contract. So maybe just, like, scheduling things happened and it just be really easy for
- [30:02]
A
this to be debunked. Like, one person like Larry Paige commenting on E. News, you know, like, it would be. Not that she has to. I'm just saying, like, there are a lot of people who could just be like, this is hardcore not true. And the fact that it hasn't and it's now resurfaced again. I want to talk about it as if it's true. Okay.
- [30:17]
B
They haven't been liking each other's Instagram posts in recent weeks, and they seemingly unliked many from the past.
- [30:22]
A
So if this is true, I want to talk about how crazy it is because, like, these girls, like, they're obsessed with their friendship. Right. I feel like they. On the, like, last couple of seasons of Summer House, like, they're always just laying in bed, like, crying about how much they love each other and how about they, like, they hate men and they don't really want men to, like, infiltrate. So if a man really did successfully, like, come between them, like, that would be so crazy. That would be just because they are Better than that.
- [30:46]
B
It would be so crazy to the point that I actually don't believe it. Yeah, I. I can. They will have to yell at me in my face.
- [30:54]
A
No, man.
- [30:54]
B
And west hooked up and she betrayed Sierra in order for me. And I still probably. I would say you're covering them for something, El.
- [30:59]
A
Because these are like such deep friendships. Like they. And they're really based on like their friendships are built on this like sort of forever like mentality. Girlhood slumber party. You know, like when Amanda and Paige last season had that fight over Kyle and they were like so mad that
- [31:17]
B
Kyle was making them fight and that's a husband.
- [31:19]
A
Right. I just. You're right. It's so not believable.
- [31:24]
B
I do not believe it. And if Amanda and West are getting together, like, that is such a betrayal on so many levels. And I sorry that I keep bringing it back to Kyle, but like, who cares? They were married. Like, no, I don't. West and Sierra, you think that's a bigger betrayal? They had a sub. They had.
- [31:38]
A
West are not like best friends. They're cast mates. Like, and I think they're friends, but they're like in.
- [31:42]
B
It's like Raquel and Sandoval. She was just like a random new on the cast.
- [31:46]
A
Well, no, she was Ariana's best friend. It's more akin. It's Sierra, west and Amanda. I'm sorry, I know you see it
- [31:53]
B
for six months versus Kyle and Amanda have a relationship for 10 years and that his buddy.
- [31:57]
A
What's also weird is that Sierra and
- [31:59]
B
that's mates, Mrs. Sierra and Wes were
- [32:01]
A
also recently spotted out together.
- [32:03]
B
Friends. They could be friends.
- [32:05]
A
It was after the first rumor.
- [32:07]
B
No. Claudia, I can't believe I. Yeah, we have to.
- [32:10]
A
We really cannot.
- [32:11]
B
I'm not gonna pass judgment until we get more confirmation, but things. Maybe they're just in a fight for something else.
- [32:16]
A
Right?
- [32:16]
B
But them not liking each other's Instagrams
- [32:18]
A
and like, what is that? Like, how does Paige. Whose side does she take?
- [32:24]
B
Does she even have to take a side if she's not filming? Why can't she hang out with Amanda sometimes and Sierra other times?
- [32:28]
A
I think that they're just all best friends. Like. And I think she has a longer friendship with Amanda, but technically like, Amanda would be in the wrong. So like, how do you side with Amanda? I don't envy the position she's in.
- [32:39]
B
Yeah. Or maybe she's able to keep it separate. Just like Hannah and Amanda.
- [32:43]
A
Seems like Amanda's a problem.
- [32:45]
B
Friends are just separate.
- [32:46]
A
Yeah, no, that sucks.
- [32:47]
B
And she doesn't seem like she has a lot of free time, so.
- [32:49]
A
Right.
- [32:49]
B
You get to hang out with.
- [32:51]
A
You choose first.
- [32:52]
B
I don't know.
- [32:53]
A
Yeah.
- [32:53]
B
Let's just say it's not true until we know more. Yeah, but that would be juicy if true.
- [33:00]
A
It would be good for Summer House.
- [33:01]
B
It would be I'll or the city. I'll go back to watching.
- [33:04]
A
Yes.
- [33:05]
B
I'm just. I just missed like one or two episodes. Apparently this week's episode was really bad for Kyle. He had to post an apology on his Instagram.
- [33:11]
A
I saw. That's.
- [33:12]
B
Maybe I will go back to watching.
- [33:13]
A
Yeah.
- [33:14]
B
Our next story is the craziest headline I ever read.
- [33:16]
A
Okay.
- [33:18]
B
Shaquille o' Neal explains the viral rumors that he sent Sabrina Carpenter horny dms.
- [33:22]
A
Yes, I saw this as well.
- [33:24]
B
Shaq wants to set the record straight about a viral rumor that he sent horny DMS to Sabrina Carpenter. He said on his podcast that the alleged messages between him and Sabrina are fake. Sadly, while talking with his guests, he said he would read the messages aloud and told them, I want you to tell me if it's me or not. He then read a fake message that told them this Sabrina, that he wanted to keep her farts in a cologne bottle and spray it on me every day.
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A
I'm cracking up. I just want to say I ship.
- [33:54]
B
Ship
- [33:57]
A
heartedly.
- [33:58]
B
So he's 54.
- [34:00]
A
She's about 25.
- [34:02]
B
Yeah, something like that maybe.
- [34:03]
A
Like, it's not even so much about age. It's about size. Like, I do think she's probably the size of his foot.
- [34:09]
B
Yeah. But.
- [34:10]
A
And that's why it's so perfect.
- [34:12]
B
I deeply ship now with age of attraction. I'm just like ages.
- [34:15]
A
Ages but a number.
- [34:17]
B
Yeah.
- [34:18]
A
And I feel like Sabrina is like very of her own mind, you know, because obviously the danger between, you know, a relationship with a huge age gap is like the power dynamic.
- [34:27]
B
She's frontal lobe developed.
- [34:28]
A
She's frontal lobe developed. I think she would be running that house. And you know, Shaq really loves a tiny woman. Have you ever seen, I guess everyone looks tiny next time. But have you seen his, like, most recent, like, long term partner?
- [34:38]
B
No, but everybody would look tiny.
- [34:39]
A
But she really was like us, like, cracking up. Ship, ship.
- [34:44]
B
I'm glad he addressed it because I didn't know this was happening.
- [34:47]
A
Me neither. And if I would have seen it, like, I'm media literate, like, I would know that that is fake. Mostly because, like, Sabrina would never screenshot it and, like, put it out there. Yeah, that's really funny. I like, AI is so crazy. Like, the concept of being able to generate fake messages is crazy, but like, somebody had to have the idea first.
- [35:04]
B
Right?
- [35:04]
A
Right. And that's why I will never beat us, because somebody thought of this to generate.
- [35:09]
B
Yeah. You know, it's so true. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
- [35:12]
A
Oh my God.
- [35:12]
B
That will lead into our TV recap.
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Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
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I'm actually like so excited to talk about.
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Okay, so Annie Cohen is clapping back at Sarah Michelle Geller's brutal criticism of Real Houses of Beverly Hills during her Page Six Radio interview.
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So I feel like that headline's a little bit sleepy.
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It's not brutal.
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And he's not really back at her.
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Here's the story. Sarah Michelle Geller went on page six radio, which is a part of SiriusXM, the Sirius XM channel, and she was talking about her thoughts on this season of Beverly Hills. She's a fan of the show and
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she said just been on watch Driving Live the night prior talking about it.
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Yeah. And she said that she found the season to be a little boring. And they clipped that and posted it as a reel on Instagram. Tic tac, tic tac toe. So he said, I guess Page Six Radio Interviewed Sarah Michelle Geller. Sorry.
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Then the next day he went on his radio show and spoke about the clip.
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I guess Page Six Radio interviewed Sarah Michelle Geller. And it was in our studio. And then they post it, Sarah Michelle Geller is born. That title of the post was Sarah Michelle Geller is born by this season of Real Houses of Beverly Hills. The interview took place in the Radio Andy studio. He went on to slam the idea of a radio show guest criticizing a Bravo show he executive produces in his own studio. He said, she's wrong, by the way. And then he responded to her assessment of Beverly Hills.
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So it, to me it seems more like that he was angry at that production and he's not wrong. Like when you run such a big channel, like, but anyone talking about your show is good. I just want to say, but yeah, I get the concept of her sitting in front of a big Radio Andy sign bashing an Andy show. Maybe shouldn't have been clipped for social media. She is entitled to the opinion. And what she said isn't that bad. And he was like. And she was on the show the night prior saying good things. Well, of course, like, what's she gonna tell you to your face? It's boring.
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Yeah. And you could also, like, find this season boring, but find things that you like about it.
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I just want to say that's exactly my experience. It is a boring season and I'm enjoying it.
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B
Yeah. She likes the cast. Like, so if she's going on my Dragons live, she can share like all the good thoughts that she has. And if she's going on like a tea filled podcast, she can share her negative thoughts. The clipping it and posting it is wild.
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It's just like bad management, like, and I think that's more his frustration than directly at Sarah Jessica.
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Yeah, she's a lot. I think the season's boring. That's not even a big, big deal or a nasty thing to say or
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like a hot take. Like, it happens.
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The fact that they would critic clip it, like highlighting this moment where she's criticizing essentially their boss's work is very stupid.
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No. And so I think, and when I listened to him, he felt like he was more mad at whoever let the clip get clipped rather than her saying it.
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Right.
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Because like the headlines are making it seem like he's beefing with Sarah Michelle. And I feel like she probably has like a huge pit. Like, she really didn't do anything wrong. I hope that, like, I think she thinks, like, she's blacklisted from Watch Happens Live. Like I hope she reached out, because the only thing is, like, Andy maybe shouldn't have said it on his radio show. He should have said it in, like, the corporate meeting. Like, you know what I mean?
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Yeah. But I don't think that's how he rolls. And if she had said that and they didn't clip it, and even if it still, like, surfaced somehow, someone else clipped it, like, they wouldn't be at fault. She's allowed to talk about the show and say something. This isn't like Kim Jong Un's North Korea, where we can't speak. No.
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I think if it went viral on, like, a T channel.
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Yeah.
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And, like, the Page Six official didn't post it. I don't think he would have been up.
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The fact that they posted it. Something that's, like, negative. Speaking about their bosses is bad form. It just is.
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Here's the equivalent. It's been using Toast Studio to record good guys talking about our merch being poor quality or something. You know, like, that's really the equivalent. And you know what? Andy's right.
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Or it'd be like. Like someone at Unwell.
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A
Oh, that's a better example. Okay.
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Saying that they didn't like the Hannah Montana special at a clipping. Like, say. Yeah, right. Harry Jowsey had a guest that didn't like the Hannah Montana, but then Unwell.
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Posting it.
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Yes.
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Yes. If Harry Jowsey had someone on who said they didn't like to have a tennis session, like, that's fine. They're entitled to their opinion.
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He clipped it. If he clipped it.
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That's a great example. Yeah.
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Like, embarrassing his boss. Yeah, that's. You're still in a workplace environment. Like, you still have bosses, but the
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guest is allowed to say what the guest wants.
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But, like, don't highlight it.
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No, you're. That's a really good analogy.
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I like that. Thank you.
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Okay, let's talk about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It was kind of a weird episode.
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There were two. It was a weird episode.
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There were two or, like, three benchmark fights. And, like, there were two or three.
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I thought there was, like, three or four.
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It was just a tough night to be, like, a Bose apologist, because, like, up until recently, she's done nothing wrong. Yeah. So it's like, she's very easy to. To Stan. She's just going, like, a little hard on Amanda, and her and Erica were in the car. This happened last episode, so you might have seen. Seen it. Chat. GBT ing Amanda Francis and, like, reading a lot of the criticisms about her like, you know, chat, like, just sums up. And Sutton was like, this is. This feels really mean spirited because they were just sort of alluding to like, her business being a scam. And Sutton was like, this feels really mean spirited. And she went and told Amanda. And Sutton's like getting really emotional about this. She's like, you know, when I was in this group, I had just launched my store and everyone was really supportive. And so, like, I just wanted to. She started crying and I'm like, okay, calm down. She told Amanda. So Amanda finds out, and Amanda's like, really pissed. And they all. They split up for the day. Everyone except for Dorit, Erica and Kyle goes to this vineyard and that's where they have this sort of like moronic argument where I don't even know what they're talking about. I don't know what Bose is upset with Amanda for. Amanda's now upset with Bose for the mask comment and for now, like, reading negative reviews. Like, she's like, what are you implying? And well, Bose is like, put your walls down. Like, we don't know.
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Let me put my walls down with these people who keep making fun of me.
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Like, her gripe is that, like, Amanda's walls aren't down. And I'm like, what the are you talk like it's the first time I've ever been like Bose. And then what gets even crazier is there's something weirder going on here because, like, Amanda's business is that she sells digital courses. And those digital courses help you manifest things in your life. So yeah, it does sound very scamming.
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B
But people with their own money and their own free will are buying them.
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We think it's stupid. Yeah, but people buy whatever they want. Stupid.
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B
Like buy whatever they want.
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Right. So it's not a scam, it's just like, dumb.
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But it's not like she's selling courses and then you don't get the course
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correct or like an ML mlm.
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Yeah, but again, you have free will.
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Agreed. But then the weird thing is that. So Amanda's like, well, let me ask chat GBT about Bose. And it's the same thing. You know, Bose is xyz, but here are criticisms of her. You know, she has really short 10 year jobs. People have accused her courses of being. I'm like, wait, Bose sells courses? Is because to me, while, yes, I think anybody can buy whatever they want. To me, the sort of benchmark of a grifter is someone who sells courses, like digital courses. When I see people shilling them online. I'm like, oh, God, it's. It's the modern mlm. It's a pyramid scheme. Like, it's insane. So Bose, who up until this point, to me had like, quite literally never done anything wrong in her entire life, is being really hard on Amanda. And then I'm like, wait, you also sell courses? So now the whole thing feels, like, competitive, and it's like, from. And. And then Amanda realizes it's too nice. She's like, everything. She's accusing me and my courses of. Is what her and her courses. Like, it's so stupid. I felt like I was losing brain cells. The entire argument, it didn't end. I don't know where. Where they winded up. And, like, honestly, it was a bad look for Bose. Then while they're going winery, whatever, Amanda, Erica, Dorit, and Kyle go for gelato. And I guess Erica and Kyle sort of agreed to have, like, an intervention with Dorit, but it was such an ambush. And I have to say, I'm obviously team Dorit. So, like, maybe you guys want to agree with me. It was such a bad look for E. Because up until this point, she's tried her best to mediate while also always leaning like, you know, she's like, center, right, you know, center. Kyle. She went full. And I thought to rehandled it like a queen. She just straight up left. Like, she got in the car. Even though they took one car to town and the girls were stranded there for 30 minutes. She just went home. It was so not conducive. And Kyle was just basically saying, you're mad at me for saying all these things, but everyone's saying them. She made sure to cite Bose as saying them and Rachel saying them and the whole group is saying them. So it's Bose, Rachel, Dorit, Erica, and Kyle. Everyone's saying, you're dead, you know, so then she leaves. Like, she's like, I'm not doing this. Then that night, they have dinner, and, like, they know they're going to have to talk about it. And Kyle is talking to the girls at drinks before Tariq gets there, she's telling everyone she's trying to orchestrate this huge intervention. And Bose and Rachel clock it immediately. They're like, why are you saying us all? Like, yeah, I said we run on Dorit time. Like, she cited one thing that Kyle said in the Hampton. And, yeah, Rachel was like, yeah, I have friends, like, who just run on their own time. It's, like, annoying and rude. But, like, I wasn't, like, concerned. I. She Said, I just meant to read. I didn't know that this is what she's not always been like, like, what are you talking about? And she and Eric. Kyle was like. And Bose, when I called you from the Hamptons, you agreed, like. And Bose is like, well, you called me, and I was just, like, talking to you. Like, what are you talking about? So I like that they all, like, immediately didn't. She was really trying so hard. It was a very failed orchestration, and everybody saw right through it, which I really appreciated. But it's just like, her and Erica, and it's a bad look for Erica. Something about Dorit bugs Kyle so much. So when they start the conversation at the dinner, and of course, the episode ends, like, the second the dinner starts, Dorit's like, why are you just so obsessed with what I'm doing? Like, my spending? Like. And Kyle's like, I don't mean. I don't care that you spent your book advance on Kelly. And she's like, I think you do. Like, why are you even bringing that up? And Kyle, like, kind of flips. Like, you see, like, something about Dorit is really pissing her off. And even Kyle was like. Kyle was like, you know, I'm also separated and going through a hard time. And Dorit's like, yeah, and you tell us everything's perfect. Like, what, I need to now be concerned for you. You tell me everything's fine. You don't want to share anything. Even when you were going through, like, your. Your manic episode, you didn't tell anyone until after. Like, we were all asking for, like. And she basically said at the end of the day, like, you could say whatever you want, but I don't trust you. That's why you get mad when I say something. Not bows. But I don't trust you. Like, yeah, that's it. And if we don't have trust, we don't have anything. And she's just so bothered that, like, now, two years in a row, row, the new person has come in. The new person who was very well received by the audience. Everybody loved Bose the second she came. Everybody loves Rachel. And both of them just immediately like, to read. Like, to read. And I believe those friendships are really genuine. I think Kyle sees them as, like, to be strategic, but I don't think.
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I don't think Dre has time to be correct. She has a moment to be fake or think, like, take a step that's not the one that she wants to take because, like, she's just trying to get through and it's funny. It's like, yeah, you don't see. Okay. She's not okay.
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A
Yeah. And she said that.
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B
Okay. Her life is in shambles.
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A
She said that.
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B
Also, do you think that, like, Kyle's beef with Dorit is because of Mauricio?
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And I mean, it definitely is not, like, helping for sure.
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B
Mauricio loves to read.
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A
Also, very quickly, at the beginning of the episode, they just remarked on Natalie because I guess last week she, like, lied, and then she, like, came to breakfast and she was like, oh, I just feel like I really handled last night so poorly. I just want to say, like, huge L for Natalie. Yeah. Clearly the network invested in her. They brought her on all the truth
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B
trips they thought she might be a friend of.
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Or all her scenes were cut. Her one thing that wasn't, like, just bad.
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B
And she.
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A
I saw she posted on her Instagram being like, this is my first time. Like, it was just like, l. She gotta go.
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I don't even care about the mask. No mask. Cuz, like, I live in a world where, like, you don't. I guess if you're on a TV show, it is your job to remember everything that you said that was said. You're gonna be asked about it because, like, sometimes it's an offhand just, like, forget it. Yeah.
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A
Except now it's like, did I say that now? It's like a long list of things that just Bose keeps putting on Amanda, and it's like. It's mean. And you know me, I don't even like Amanda, but, like, she needs to lay off a little bit.
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B
I agree. And it's week after week after week, and it's like, weeks, months on campaign.
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A
Bose doesn't have a legitimate issue with Amanda Doritos. So we can say whatever she wants about Amanda. Like, Amanda came for her first.
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B
Yeah.
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A
What is.
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She's not, like, sharing or opening up in the way that she would want. Well, first of all, no one wants to open up to people who they're not getting along with.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Even people that you are getting along with. It takes them on tv time to open up. Like, big fucking whoop.
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A
Yeah. It was kind of a bad episode for Bows, so I'm just gonna erase it from my memory.
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B
It happened because I still stand. Yeah, of course.
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A
And, like, I'm Team Whatever Couch. Dorit, Bows and Rachel are on dream Team.
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B
Dream team. And Erica wants to join. She's more.
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A
No, Erica's, like, so deep in her friendship with Kyle, which I respect. Like, she's loyal to her friends. But, like, it's. It's. It's not good anymore.
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B
What I'll say is I imagine that it is exhausting to be good friends with Dorit for the last few years. And Kyle, Erica has been doing it for a long time, and maybe she's tired. Bose and Rachel, they're new to all this. They might have a little bit more patience for Dorit at this moment, but, like, Erica, who's, like, seen this show for so many years, like, might just be a little bit at her wits over it.
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A
That's fair. All right, let's.
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B
Oh.
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A
Let's dive into queenie. And we need our final segment of the week where Jackie and I give out two awards. Queenie of the week and weenie of the week. They're exactly as they sound. If you did something great this week, you might find yourself queenie. And if you did something really lovely, lame as fudge, you might find yourself winning. I feel like we have the same queenie.
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B
My queenie of the week, who's one of the queenies of my life. It had just a banner week. Was Miley Cyrus.
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Okay. Mine was actually Alex Cooper. I feel like she did a lot for the world this week. She did a lot. The Hannah Montana special, like, was objectively good. Her interview with Jesse Draper, like, I was sat the down. I feel like a lot of news was made this week. Our lives were made. Our job was made easy.
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B
Yeah.
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She was, like, stirring the pot, doing the work, and I appreciate that. And she also gets, like. A lot of people are really hard on her. Her, like, because she's not like, you know, Diane Sawyer, and it's like, it's fucking call her daddy. I don't know what you're expecting, so I feel like she deserves to be queenie.
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B
Okay, so we're simpatico in Montana, but
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A
I do want to say just like, a small honorable mention. My queenie was almost just in Timberlake.
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B
I thought the same thing because, like. But I'm sorry. He's still got a D. Yeah. Of course.
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A
That is weenie behavior.
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B
If there was a category of, like, someone who's emerged from the weenie box. Justin Timberlake.
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A
Yeah.
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Is moving up in the world now.
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I wrote my weenie, and I don't know what I meant by it.
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Well, I'll share my weenie of the week is Pascal. Love that. Love that he's so the weenie. And people are thinking that, like, Chapel paid him to, like, say this or
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because his reputation's already sullied, like, what does he have to lose.
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B
Yeah. And to take the heat off of her. And I think everyone just wants to find a way to blame Chapel. And I just want to say, like, I'm so down.
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A
Yeah, me too. But this is a little. But it's a reach. Yeah.
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B
And don't worry, she'll do something again next. Like, it won't be long.
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What do you think I meant by executive when I wrote down my weenie of the week?
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B
Maybe, like, an executive who made a poor decision.
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A
Yes, that's what I'm thinking. But who?
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B
Abc. Like, if you think that they shouldn't have pulled the season.
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A
No, that's not what I was thinking. And the executives at Hulu, maybe, like,
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B
Netflix, they just raised their prices again.
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A
They did. That's extremely mean, like, behavior. But I'm thinking maybe. I was thinking the executive who, like, won't, like, put the cameras up for Salamo.
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B
I don't think this one.
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A
I don't think did. I mean, when I wrote that.
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B
It'll come to you. Update it.
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A
I'll share it on Monday.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
That's our show, y'. All. Yeah, y', all, thanks so much for listening to the Judgment. I want to show you a little bit.
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B
Turned out to be a narafi after all. So true.
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A
I jinxed it.
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B
A nice regular. I know. I think we were just talking really quickly, and we got all our fire points out. Like, we didn't circle the drain.
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A
That's, like, on. We are habit stackers. We are time managers. Like, efficacy is everything to us. So. Yeah, that makes total sense. Like, you got your day back. You're welcome.
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B
Yeah, we just got you a couple minutes back.
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A
They're like, no, please don't.
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B
No. But Ben and I were talking about how, like, when we're driving and we're speeding, like, we're like, you can literally shave the minutes. You can get time back.
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A
Please don't. Ben is so crazy like, that.
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B
Like, and I don't want to become like him, but, like, yeah, no, you could, like, have an extra three minutes. You know what you could do with those three minutes?
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A
Poop a poop.
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B
Like, I could post to my Instagram, like, change lives, take a call. I can answer an email that I otherwise would take 12 hours. Like, so, like, don't even tell me what can be done with three minutes.
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A
Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast of Monday morning show where we Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're always also available as podcast any podcast we found, so Spotify it Stitcher Public Radio. I cast box all the places we listen to podcast. Beautiful sounding and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing weekend and we'll see you on Monday.
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B
But she's not filming. Love you. Bye.
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C
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