Commending The Cojones: Friday, July 24th, 2026

Summary

The Toast: "Commending The Cojones"

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: July 24, 2026
Duration Covered: Main content (ads, intros, and outros excluded)

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Episode Overview

Jackie and Claudia Oshry kick off their signature witty, conversational round-up of the week’s biggest pop culture stories and personal life updates. The episode delves into the ongoing "Nickelandria" split scandal, reality TV updates (including "Love Island"), celebrity news (notably Kylie Kelsey discussing Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s wedding), and a viral resurfacing of Jerry O’Connell’s breakup with Giuliana Rancic. The sisters offer sharp takes, relatable anecdotes, and a few memorable quotes in this Friday catch-up.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Summer Vibes and Vlogging in the Hamptons

• The weekend is signaled by the arrival of their sister Margo, the "weekend warrior."
• They briefly recount their vlogging schedule and tease upcoming Patreon content.
• Jackie throws her back out after a night of "co-sleeping" with kids, contemplating taking "a backseat" to weekend activities (04:28).
• Jackie is watching "Off Campus" (book/show discussion), and they debate the story's pacing and romantic plotlines.

Quote:
“I feel like I'm not even halfway through and... I kind of, like, want to stop watching now because I like how it’s ended.” — Jackie, (07:11)

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2. Nickelandria Scandal—A Pop Culture Deep Dive

(Start: 21:01)

• They dissect Alandria’s response to dating rumors (allegedly with Travis Scott) after Dumois posts an anonymous tip.
• Alandria’s litigious reply (“I hope you have your lawyers ready because I have mine”) is considered an overreaction, making her look "petty" and "humorless" (21:32).
• The sisters decisively judge both Dumois and Alandria’s behaviors, reflecting on how celebrities could clap back in lighter, more media-savvy ways.

Quote:
“There are worse things to happen than a rumor that you’re dating one of the most famous rappers in the world.” — Claudia, (22:28)

Memorable Moment:

• They riff on being longtime skeptics of Nickelandria’s “PR relationship” and feel vindicated by how the scandal has unfolded.

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3. Reality TV & "Love Island" Catch-Up

(Start: 29:40)

• Updates on "Love Island" contestants, fan "toxicity," and post-season career moves.
• Noted that various contestants are signing with major talent agencies (WME, Gersh, UTA)—a big shift for reality personalities.
• Observations on relationships between contestants, public reception, and the differing fates of former villa couples.

Quote:
“Love Island remains like one of the most toxic mentally ill fanhoods of all time.” — Claudia, (31:46)

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4. Celebrity Relationship News: Kylie Kelsey on Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce’s Wedding

(Start: 35:50)

• Kylie Kelsey addressed the Kelce/Swift wedding on her podcast, calling it “absolutely magical... intimate and incredible and full of love.”
• Claudia reevaluates her stance, conceding Kylie Kelsey and Taylor Swift seem genuinely close after initially assuming otherwise.
• Discussion on trust and family when you reach mega-celebrity status.

Quote:
“The more I think about it... I actually think now... that they’re really close.” — Claudia, (37:29)

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5. Kim Kardashian’s “Update” Drink Campaign

(Start: 39:22)

• Kim Kardashian launches a major ad campaign for "Update,” an energy drink, humorously leveraging her bar exam failure.
• Jackie and Claudia are unimpressed by the hype and question the necessity of another celebrity beverage line.

Quote:
“The commercial was well done... Someone said, didn’t you like, fail the bar? She said, ‘I didn’t fail the bar. I raised it.’” — Jackie, (41:24)

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6. Jerry O’Connell & Giuliana Rancic: Revisiting a Messy Breakup

(Start: 48:52)

• Jerry O’Connell publicly admits to being "a terrible boyfriend" to Giuliana Rancic on Kelly Ripa’s SiriusXM show.
• Giuliana responds on Instagram, teasing a full recount on her podcast. The sisters marvel at the escalation.
• Debate on whether Bill Rancic is actually "rich" post-Apprentice and the shift away from traditional celebrity reporting.

Quote:
“She [Giuliana] like, left public life... because she had a rich husband, you know?” — Claudia, (55:22)

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7. Casting News: Tom Holland as Fred Astaire

(Start: 57:24)

• Tom Holland set to star as Fred Astaire and reportedly perform all the dancing himself.
• Discussion on the risks and rewards of biopic roles, referencing Rami Malek ("Bohemian Rhapsody"), Austin Butler ("Elvis"), and others.
• Debate on the career impacts of taking on such iconic roles.

Quote:
“I feel like a biopic for a man... sometimes it makes a great actor, and sometimes, I think it ruins a career.” — Claudia, (58:41)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Nickelandria's PR Split:
  “Don’t spit in my face and tell me it’s raining. Like, it’s over now. Let’s just call it what it was.” — Claudia, (24:36)

• On Reality TV Stardom:
  “Like we said, the humiliating nature of the show and the things they do on the show, they deserve every minute of this, every fame, every follower, every dollar.” — Jackie, (35:44)

• The Power of Vlogging:
  “We are...we’re at a vlog a day. Because we did one on Wednesday. We did one yesterday, and we actually are filming something today.” — Jackie, (03:47)

• On Contestants’ Newfound Fame:
  “They're all like, getting their teams in order.” — Jackie, (32:11)

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Notable Timestamps

• Hamptons vlogging + personal updates: 03:01–05:05
• "Off Campus" show/book chat: 05:12–07:29
• Nickelandria/Dumois scandal: 21:01–29:00
• "Love Island" follow-up: 29:40–35:48
• Kylie Kelsey on Swift/Kelce wedding: 35:50–39:22
• Kim Kardashian’s ‘Update’ drink: 39:22–43:01
• Jerry O’Connell/Giuliana Rancic saga: 48:52–57:24
• Tom Holland as Fred Astaire: 57:24–62:36

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Overall Tone & Style

• Conversational, candid, sometimes irreverent
• Pop culture fluency with a dash of sisterly banter and personal anecdotes
• Relatable, opinionated, and occasionally self-referential (“…this remains my personal Roman Empire…”)

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Summary Table: The Fast 5

| # | Topic | Key Points | Quote/Timestamp | |---|-------|------------|----------------| | 1 | Nickelandria Split | Alandria’s legal threat, PR relationship called out | “There are worse things... than a rumor you're dating one of the most famous rappers...” (22:28) | | 2 | Kylie Kelsey/Swift Wedding | Heartwarming, family-focused, public confirmation | “...they’re really close.” (37:29) | | 3 | Kim’s “Update” Drink | Marketing via failure, underwhelming launch | “I didn’t fail the bar. I raised it.” (41:24) | | 4 | Jerry O’Connell/ Giuliana | Bad breakup revisited, podcast promo | “I was... a bad boyfriend...” (50:34) | | 5 | Tom Holland Biopic | Fred Astaire casting, potential risks | “Sometimes it makes a great actor... sometimes... ruins a career.” (58:41) |

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Closing Segment

• Brief “Queenie and Weenie” segment about Dumois, with both praise and critique for her handling of the Nickelandria saga. (62:41–63:41)
• The sisters wish listeners a great weekend with gratitude for their ongoing support.

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For listeners who missed this episode:
You’re caught up on celebrity drama, reality show shake-ups, and the week’s warmest and wackiest pop culture moments—with plenty of sisterly sass and sharp-eyed commentary.

Transcript

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Good morning girlies.

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It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

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It's your favorite show.

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The Fast 5 things you need to know.

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We'll start your day off.

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Swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing.

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Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Friday. Hope everybody's having an amazing kickoff to the weekend period.

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Kickoff.

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Kick off, kick it off girl gotta kick it up.

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It's summer kickoff. It's the weekend kickoff. With the Toast.

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It's the summer kickoff. Even though summer's in full swing.

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I know. But it always feels like summer's just about to get get started.

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Summer, summer, summer.

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Yes. It's Friday. It's very exciting.

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Huge news for the community.

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Yeah, and it feels like Friday because Ms. Margot came to the house and she's our weekend warrior.

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She's our weekend ward.

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So. So wet and that too. But you know, they call them weekend warriors. Like the. The young professionals who like live for the weekend are always like traveling and stuff. So.

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Margo.

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So she's a weekend warrior and that's how you know it's the weekend when Margot has landed.

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Well, the eagle has landed. The.

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We haven't seen her.

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But. No, but she's allegedly in the house. I haven't seen her though.

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We heard her stomping around last night.

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We did. She actually woke me up with those big feet stomping around with those big date. But yeah, legend says she's somewhere in the house.

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I didn't see her car actually. I didn't look for it though. Not that the driveway is so huge, but.

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But I didn't see it either. The ghost of Sachi's past. Maybe she caught a ride.

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Maybe she left early this morning and like went somewhere.

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No, I didn't see it. Sachi. Lou, where are you?

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Where are you?

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Margo? That's a good point. I really did not see her car.

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No, me neither. It was actually like nice. I was able to like breeze out of the driveway. No one unencumbered.

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No obstacles.

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Unencumbered.

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You're so unencumb.

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By the family vehicles.

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Yeah. We have a lot to discuss because obviously things are happening. Things are developing as the Leading source on Nickelandria Incorporated. Colon. The most fraudulent scandal of the 21st century. Things are happening. Alyndra's, you know, fighting back.

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Yeah. Fighting back against what?

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I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure.

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Sort of punching the air, as the kids say.

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Of course, that's our lead story. And I don't want to. I don't want to dive right in because I don't want to, like, give air to the allegations that were hiding our personal lives.

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Of course, of course. Sorry, I didn't mean to skip ahead and dive into the allegations.

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People love the pffb. So, like, much like, you won't let Queenie and Weenie die, I won't let the prefab. That's my favorite part.

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The only thing is that, like, you, like, are actively trying to get Queenie and we need to die. I'm not trying to get PFFP to die.

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No, I feel like you do it subtly. No, I just, like, you're subtle in

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your one thing about me. It's like, I get the bills paid here. Like, I do the advertisements.

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So I just eager to.

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I'm not eager. I'm just, like, always keeping top of mind for, like, the flow of the show. We can't let too much time go by. We can't let too much little go by. Like, sorry, I'm keeping us on track in that sense.

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I understand. But, like, the pffb is why they come.

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Of course.

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No.

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And the pffb will never suffer.

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No, no, never. However, yesterday we did vlog pretty much the whole day.

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We're so vloggers. Like, I'm about to get.

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Like, I don't want to give away too much of the vlog, but, like, it's giving, like, vlogmas up in here. We are. We're at a vlog a day. Because we did one on Wednesday. We did one yesterday, and we actually are filming something today. It's a vlog.

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The Hamptons are just different. The Hamptons are ripe for vlogs. Like, there are so many, like, viral establishments. It's so parchy. You could go, like, the Aina route. You could go, like, the surf lodge route. Like, go Rage. We're obviously not doing that, but, like,

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we're actually filming a documentary tonight. That's, like, the format of the vlog.

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Let's. Yeah, we don't want to spoil it, but, like, big things coming to Patreon.

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Yeah. Including the vlog we filmed yesterday. So I don't want to give away too much of what we did. Yesterday. Because it's in the vlog.

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Right. So we won't pffb too hard.

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We won't. However, since I wrapped the vlog, here's what's happened to me. I've thrown my back out.

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What?

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I didn't know that. I know. I'm like fighting it. It's like if I make one wrong move, it's going to rip.

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You're on the edge.

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When I was driving today, I actually, like, wanted to self drive because I was like, this is too hard.

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Did you put your heating pad on?

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I did and that really helped. But it was. It was the co sleeping that did me and I must have hit a weird position. Yeah, there was a lot of co sleeping going on last night. That'll do it in a lot of. With a lot of, like, different children in different, like, ways. And it got me. And so I think I might have to take a back seat tonight.

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Wow.

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You know, might stay behind the camera. Oh, I thought you meant in your bed.

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You might have to take a backseat to the co sleeping. No.

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And I also finally was able to resume off campus. I've crossed the hurdle, the personal.

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Yeah. Boundary that was crossed.

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And you know what? It was hard. It was just such a shame. It was that scene that came next.

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Of course, if it was any other

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scene, just seeing it through the landlord's eyes. But once I got past that, I was able to resume festivities. And it's actually crazy because now I'm at the part where they're about to go home for Thanksgiving.

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Oh, yeah.

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So what's weird to me, it seems early in the show, but they're like very much a couple. It felt like what would happen at the end. Now I know there are still a few things that have to happen, like the, The. The scholarship.

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Oh, but of course the performance.

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Yes.

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The showcase.

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Excuse me, the showcase.

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There's always a showcase.

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And then like, you know, Logan's in the background, like, pining for her.

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So I will say they're like a couple of story lines that just like, straight up die. And Logan pining for is one of them.

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Is there a lot more of show left, like? And also what's so crazy is they showed their romance. So the episode ends with that loudspeaker scene, which I loved. I love when she got on loudspeaker.

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Oh, what did she say in the

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loudspeaker when she was singing to him and the hockey.

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Yeah, now that. And she actually. You'll love. They just released. People have been begging so many of the songs that she sings like cherry pie go viral. She just released a version of that song with Niall Horan, who I guess is like, a fan of the show.

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Love that.

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Yeah.

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So that was so great. I love the loudspeaker. I'm like, I'm back.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then the next episode, they have this whole montage of them screwing, screwing. And then, like, the. And then the opening credits. And, like, that's their whole relationship. It literally happens before the opening credits. And now it's like Thanksgiving and we're back to. I don't know what's gonna happen, but, like, you'll see. I hate when they fast forward through the good stuff.

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Yeah. But it's pretty true to the book because I recently remembered I actually did read it, and it's. There's a lot of, you know, personal development, personal storylines like, that are going to happen. Thanksgiving is a big part of it. And, like, that sort of like, brings them together. And then what?

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Eventually, like, wait, hey.

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Yeah.

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Hey, ho you.

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And there's just a lot, like, there's a lot more. Like, the best is yet to come.

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I feel like I'm not even halfway through and like.

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And then in a relationship and, like, the deal worked.

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I kind of, like, want to stop watching now because I like how it's. How it's ended.

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No, they have to grow. Like, they have growing pains. You'll see. You'll see. It's great.

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Okay. But I'm like, if I never picked it back up and, like, we. We called it here. I really enjoyed this show. They're very cute.

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I have to throw, like, a hurdle in.

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I was so glad that she didn't waste too much time on Justin. I was so glad that we didn't waste so much time. I'm like, a miscommunication where it's like, he thinks she doesn't like her, so

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he goes back, like, lets her go for himself.

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He goes back to the other girl, and just as she's about to tell him, oh, I like you, he sees her with the other. I hate. So, like, the fact that everyone put on their big kid pants and told each other how they felt, and there is no miscommunication was major.

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Just a little behind the scenes. Justin is dating in real life, the roommate.

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I see that.

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Yeah.

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And then I honestly knew you were

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about to say the roommate is the subject for season two. She. Have you gotten to her storyline yet? A little bit.

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A little bit. She's, like, breaking up with a guy. She just snuck into a jeep before Thanksgiving. She reminds me so much of a mixture of. What's her name? From Victorious sister Trina Vega. Trina Vega.

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Who, by the way, you're gonna freak. You know, she's a huge toaster. Daniella Monet.

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Okay. She reminds me.

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She just went on Good Guys and she was talking about how, like, Swirly Pargie. She's like the biggest hoser.

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She reminds me of Trina Vega plus Jeanette McCurdy.

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She definitely reminds me of someone. I don't know if you've nailed it, like, in my mind, but she. I thought she reminds me of someone with a little bit in our own

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life with a little bit of Jen Affleck sprinkled on top.

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Okay. I'm not, like, loving the call, but

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she has, like, the. The manic energy of Jeanette.

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Yeah.

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With the look of Trina and Jen, I'm telling you.

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Well, you should definitely keep going because it's good. And if, like, you. If you like it now, like, it only gets better.

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Okay, cool, cool, cool.

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I know. You just, like, watch it in secret and in solitude. So, like, take your time.

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Why? It's actually, like, not cool that the two of them are, like, making Justin, like, still work on the song.

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And have you, like, gotten to the song yet?

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Like, no, I haven't heard it. But it's like, he did her a favor and now, like, Garrett comes to all the rehearsals.

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To what?

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Rub it in his face. Like, they literally, like, honey potted him. They, like, trapped him. They like, made her. They made her his dream girl. Then she denied him, and now they're gonna rub it in his face and he's helping her and wait. Get a huge scholarship.

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I don't want to spoil it.

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That should be his money too. I don't want to spoil it half the work.

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But, like, they make up a song together and then she, like, ends up throwing it away. Like, she doesn't use it. So he does all this work for nothing.

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Okay, so it's even worse. But it's like he's. He has no reason to help her. It's not even like he's getting credit or anything. They should have.

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Like, he was just like, you know, he's like a musician. There's a lot to the music, but

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there's a lot of rehearsals. Like, this is a part time job.

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Yellow, yellow haze. I think I have such a bad song.

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But it's like every day he's spending so much time working with this girl.

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He's not getting classes, are getting credit.

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Life is suffering and they're just like.

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No, it's true.

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Rubbing salt in the wound, actually.

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True.

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So I feel bad for him, even though I don't like him and I like Garrett Graham west, of course.

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What's not to like?

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He reminds me of Miles Teller because

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he has that really charming smile. Like, that's what it is.

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Yeah. I feel like he's like this generation's Miles Teller of, like, wow. Of good looking, like, leading man, you

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know, he was like the face of Reebok, which our sister Margot, like, had the foresight when the show was blowing up. She, like, nailed him down. And now I just saw he was the face of like a. Was it Garnier or like one of those big shampoo? Because he has, like, curly hair. So he had, like a curl routine. He was obviously, like, naked the entire commercial, but it was a good commercial.

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And then also I had a flashback to that kid Laroi dancing. And have I seen that yet in the show because he danced a little bit for Undrunk Shakespeare.

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And I'm assuming the dance move.

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Yeah.

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I don't know when he does it.

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Okay. Because he danced to a kid Laroi song at Drunk Shakespeare. Yes.

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So the song is, like, attached to him and his character.

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So I was like, is this the big moment? But it was not. It was giving nothing. There was nothing.

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I don't remember. The Drunk Shakespeare scene was one of my least favorites in the entire show.

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Okay.

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Just, like, fun fact. So I kind of blocked that out.

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Yeah. It's obviously, like, not my favorite.

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I'm so glad you're watching it. I'm so glad you're liking it.

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Yeah, Yeah.

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I am obviously watching Mad Men. Like, I know nobody cares about my decades long recap. Let me just say that Peggy. I forgot, like, the big thing. I don't want to spoil it, but that she, like.

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Yes, yes.

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And she's a real piece of shit. Like, I just. I can't stand her. That's it.

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Yeah, that's. That's true. No matter when you watch it.

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When you watch it. It's true. I remember when I. When I watched it the first time, I also walked away with that feeling.

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Yes.

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Oh, okay, wait. You haven't gone to Thanksgiving yet, so just keep us posted.

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It's about to be Thanksgiving.

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And support him in the book, like, and they. They actually replicated it quite well. It's such an important scene. Like what goes down at Phil's house.

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Okay, well, my back is out, so I might have to watch TV in bed today.

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Yeah. What else? Like, I'm again, afraid of. J'. Accuse. So.

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Oh, well. I feel like I shared, like, what happened to me between nine and nine.

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Between nine and one.

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Margo woke you up?

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Oh, Margot woke me up with her feet. And Ben.

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Oh, right. Ben. Ben.

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Ben got home super late last night because he was in the city all day, like, recording podcasts, hanging out with Craig. You want to hear the most classic Ben thing ever? He was, like, hawking me all day. He's like, you know, we're recording good guys. He went into the city for, like, a bunch of stuff, and he banged out a couple of episodes with guests. Craig went on. Ben said, it's like, a historic episode with Craig.

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Really?

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Because I guess, like, Craig and Ben really haven't discussed the fact that Craig and Kyle reunited. Like, made up.

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Right, Right.

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And, like, boys, like, don't really care, but, like, Ben was like, I guess we should talk about it. And they had, like, really beautiful, open and honest conversation. It's all on the podcast. Ben says it's, like, actually going to blow the Bravo universe up.

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Like, oh, I'm sure that it will. I wonder what was said. I'll find out.

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So he had, like, three or four interviews booked, and they didn't have a guest for, like, the last one. And I was like, call Taylor Shreker. Like, she's always available. And her show's coming out this week, the House of Stacy. It's, like, a perfect time to have her on. She wasn't available. Ben was like, whatever. I'll just. I'll figure it out. And, like, of course, like, that's not how things work. Like, you have to book people. Of course Halo Striker can come. He's walking into the studio. Who does he run into? Jared Freed, who has a couple of hours to kill. Jared Freed, who went on Good Guys. Jared Freed. Isn't that crazy?

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Yeah.

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Like, that's so Ben. Like, things just working out.

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Has he been on Good Guys yet?

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I think so. Maybe once on the G. So then Ben was also in town for the Bon Jovi concert. And let me tell you, Ben had went with Craig, obviously. And he had such a good time. He was like, ben is such a grandpa. Like, FaceTiming me from concerts. Like, I'm good, you know?

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How's Craig? Did he say anything? Like, is he filming Ben?

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Like, doesn't ask the questions because, like, right.

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It's July. They should be filming Southern Charm.

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I'm sure that they are.

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And, like, is he seeing anyone?

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I don't know. Like, Ben doesn't know what to Ask. And I didn't send him in with, like, a list of questions.

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And I think that's probably why people like him.

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Yeah. And that's why, like, they continue to hang out with him, not me. Like, with my list.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And, like, going to the bathroom to text my sister what everyone said.

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Bon Jovi.

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Bon Jovi. Ben calls me. Like, once Margot woke me up, I was. I was like, up. And Ben's like, I'm on my way home. I'm like, oh, my God, what happened to the concert? He said Bon Jovi, like, had to cancel the concert after it had already started. So he. I think he was on stage for, like, an hour and a half. Ben said he literally played all the hits, but he said, listen, I can't go on. He has, like, this vocal cord injury. He is refunding everyone. Or, like, you get new tickets. Even though, like, they literally saw almost the whole show. Ben was like, I saw every song I wanted. They said, living on a Prayer. Like, yeah. So Ben will probably have to go back to the city for, like, the rescheduled child.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah. I don't know. He saw the whole thing.

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He said, like, he got. You know, and then he also got to get home at a sort of reasonable hour.

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You know who he brought out? Special guest. So random.

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Jared Freed. Close.

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The lead singer of Train.

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Oh, he's having, like, a good month.

[B]

He is, because he's invited to Taylor's wedding.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now Bon Jovi brought him on stage at msg.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So Ben had a blast. So then at that point, when Margo, like, my nine to nine, it's like Margot woke me up, so I was like, you know, might as well wait up. That Ben was gonna be home in, like, an hour. So I waited up like such a good wife. And then we fell asleep together.

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Beautiful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really beautiful.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think with that, we can get into. Yeah, the fast.

[B]

Like, I'm bored by my own pffb. You know the fast.

[A]

I don't know. Well, it's on the vlog.

[B]

Yeah, right, Honey, put it in the vlog.

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Thank you Turd out.

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You're welcome.

[A]

Our first story, Alandria is breaking her silence amid the reported Nickelandria split after Dumois circulated new dating rumors. So yesterday we shared that Dumois shared some anonymous tip that Alandria was hooking

[B]

up with Travis Scott.

[A]

Was hooking up with Travis Scott. The DM actually said that it's been

[B]

for a few months.

[A]

Yes, but it said something like now that the PR relationship is over, she's been. She's been.

[B]

It was a shady submission.

[A]

She's been with Travis Scott. Alandria commented and said, I hope you have your lawyers ready because I have mine now. If you go to look for the comment, it's not there because Alandria blocked Dumois. Dumois then commented again and said, updated. Appears as though, well, Andrea has blocked me. That's why her comments missing. But I didn't.

[B]

It was there at one point, and

[A]

she's hoping that she has her lawyers ready.

[B]

Dumasor ate her up in. In the response because Dumois was like, Yeah, I just DM'd you their letter. Like, I guess she did get a letter from Alandra. I just want to say Olandia is so famous and, like, this is really not famous person behavior. Dumois, like, and the submissions are so harmless. I think maybe at one point they were like this bible that people. But, like, it's just not as powerful as it once was. And now it's sort of like a after the fact, people are like, yeah, I got a submission from Duman. It's like, well, you didn't tell us this before. Like, well.

[A]

And also, it's like, as a famous person, there are worse things to happen than a rumor that you're dating one of the most famous rappers in the world.

[B]

Absolutely. I feel like this is actually a bad look for Alandria.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Because letting people think it's true, like, that's great for you. And if it's not true, which, like, it probably isn't, like, who cares?

[A]

And it's not, like, grounded, and it's

[B]

distracting people from talking about not Nick, which, like, if we're. Let's. We're gonna dive in, we're gonna get to the fraud, you know?

[A]

Yeah. But also, it's not grounds for a lawsuit to say that, like, you're seeing someone that you're not seeing, is it?

[B]

No, no. Like, factually, she is wrong. But also, she just, like, looks petty.

[A]

Like, and she looks humorless. Like, seriously, the most.

[B]

Well, no, not humorless, because it's not a joke. She just looks like she's not acting.

[A]

Her fame, like, yeah, I guess. I don't know. But it's just like. Like, so serious.

[B]

Like, it is.

[A]

It's not that serious.

[B]

And she hasn't spoken out at all about the relationship. And, like, this is what you choose to engage with.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like maybe she was mad not even about the Travis Scott thing, but that the submission said now that the PR relationship is over because that could. It's also, you know, could be defined.

[B]

I could take you to court because I have proof. Like, it's pr.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. And then, I mean, that's just, like, so crazy to threaten lawyers over, like, Like a really innocuous rumor like this.

[B]

Yeah. And, like, Dumas sort of now standing 10 toes down. So when I was thinking about, like, Queenie and Weenie, I honestly feel that, like, Dumois is both my Queenie and my weenie this week, because it was really lame of her to post the submissions, like, after the fact, and that's, like, the opposite of what she's supposed to do. She's supposed to be this. Like, what do you need to be anonymous for? Like, if you're just not doing anything even remotely controversial. But she's kind of. You should see her fighting with the Nicolandia fans in the comments. Like, she's kind of eating them up, and it's Queenie behavior after. I'm sorry. She did act like some of us

[A]

have been fighting Michelangelo before. It was popular for a year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, and it's just crazy that now everyone sort of sees what we see. Yeah. And acts like they saw it all along. Oh, it's true.

[B]

If you weren't there, like, where were you? Where you were.

[A]

You were alone.

[B]

You were not there.

[A]

We were alone. And, like, it's fine that you want to be Michelangere and, like, have a fake PR relationship ride the coattails of this immensely successful show. And, like, it was the fans idea to put them together. So, like, we're just giving the people fans. Yeah, that's fine.

[B]

Yeah. But don't spit in my face and tell me it's raining. Like, it's over now. Like, let's just call it what it was.

[A]

Yes, completely.

[B]

So I just feel like this whole time, when we've talked about Nickelandra, we've talked about how, like, Nick brings Alandra down. Like, we watch that season. Alandra was a queen, and she remained a queen long after the season. And we knew that this was a fake relationship, and we knew it was gonna end. And I don't know. I never thought that, like, it would end and end up being, like, bad for Nickel, for. Excuse me. For Alandria herself. Because to me, she's, like, untouchable, and he's just there.

[A]

No. When it ended, it would be good for Elantra by the thing holding her back. But for. But now it's the audit, you know?

[B]

Yeah. And it's like, as an. As an Olandria fan, like, historically myself, I'm kind of, like, looking at her a little sideways, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then this is just kind of messy.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Like, engaging with Dumont is, like, a hard no. I feel like any celebrity who's ever sort of like, but also, if you

[A]

want to clap back about a dating rumor about yourself that's not true, say it's like, completely not true that she's never even met Travis Scott. There are, like, funny better ways to do it that are not like, I'm gonna sue you.

[B]

Sue you. No, it's so lame.

[A]

That's what I mean. When she's humorless, like, she could have responded and been like, this is news to me, right?

[B]

Travis scottcallme. Yeah. You could have, like, played and, like, been fun. But no, now you just look like, Like a sore. Whatever. Yeah, yeah, it's a bad look. And also, like, let's say it's not true. I'd be more than happy to let people think that. Like, yeah, that's a good thing for people. And if it is true, like, you can't threaten a lawsuit because it's true.

[A]

It wouldn't be your first fake relationship.

[B]

It would not be her first big relationship. Very true. This, like, remains my personal Roman Empire. And, like, when we think about, like, there have been certain moments hurting my back. Sorry, I'll call back.

[A]

But it's. Yeah, yeah, no, continue.

[B]

I just think that, like, when people talk about huge moments in pop culture, like, especially for the toast, like, we always see, like, Scandal West, Mandeval Taylor, Frankie Paul, like, these huge peaks, like, these are career making moments for us. Nobody's gonna look back and think of nickel Andrew. Like, I will.

[A]

Yeah. And like, in five years, when we do like, a Patreon going through old titles and everything's like, nickel Andrea this, nickelandrea that. Like, we would otherwise have forgotten them.

[B]

No. And somebody left a comment on Instagram yesterday.

[A]

Note on the anals of pop culture.

[B]

But not, not on mine. They are the headline.

[A]

They are a chapter.

[B]

Yes. Somebody loves to comment. Being like, you guys are always putting nickelandria in your titles. Like your fans. For real. Yes.

[A]

Yes. That's what we've been saying.

[B]

That's what, like, no one's listening to us. So frustrating.

[A]

We're fans of what nickelandrea actually is, not what you.

[B]

Which is a biological. Yeah.

[A]

We're business women ourselves.

[B]

Oh, I respect a business. Yeah. That's why I'm drinking Lunin.

[A]

I know it looks like we're either

[B]

subliminally, we have no affiliation with this brand. And I just want to say this water is extremely mid. It's genuinely water. I like the sparkling.

[A]

I just want to say, yesterday I had mine. I felt very compelled to finish it, which I did.

[B]

I'm like, I'm never gonna finish this, by the way.

[A]

Cardboard.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Hardboard.

[B]

I got a bagel this morning. Okay.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, everything in the Hamiltons is obviously like so expensive, so color me shocked. I got this big ass Lunin water. Oh, I have it right here, cuz I. A little orange juice to go with my bagel. And a bagel. What do you think that would cost in reg?

[A]

Like in. What do I think you paid? Yeah, like $17 14.

[B]

I thought that was a pretty good price.

[A]

Yeah, I don't even like.

[B]

I mean, these waters, I feel like

[A]

are 20 is so crazy. I don't even know like, when. When you come home and say, like, my blowout was 85, I'm like, like, is that good or bad?

[B]

Yeah, that's like when I went to Saint Bar. It's like money is just different. And it's like things that. Like a roast chicken at a restaurant, like, even at a really nice. It's like 40. Usually between 25 and 40. Like it's 70. Like, it's just like, things are different.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's where we are right now.

[A]

So 14. That's good. Even though someone is probably watching, being like, you got two drinks and a bagel.

[B]

And a bagel is $1.

[A]

Wait, a plain bagel with plain cream, cream cheese.

[B]

And also I asked them for a light layer because they always put too much.

[A]

Well, they don't charge you less for that, but.

[B]

But they should.

[A]

So that's like, really should be $2.

[B]

Yeah. In the city, like a water, an orange juice. It's like $4.

[A]

But not a Lunin. And that's not a Lunin. And that's fresh squeeze. You could taste the pulp.

[B]

I know. I didn't like.

[A]

So it's also like, you get what you pay for a little bit. It's true. You know, it wasn't. Wasn't Tropicana. No.

[B]

Well, Alyndria. I wouldn't be doing it this way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just wouldn't. Because the breakup, like, is an opportunity. Whether things people are like, supporting you or whatever. It's a press moment. So like now we're just like reading about how, like, you're being bitter, you know?

[A]

Do you think she's heartbroken?

[B]

No.

[A]

Like, because if Nickelandrea was real, was.

[B]

Okay, let's. Let's.

[A]

They have to go through heartbreak too.

[B]

Yeah. But they're not. So that's good.

[A]

Yeah. Like, is he gonna go to his DJ gigs and like, act cry upset?

[B]

No, I'm like, he is gonna fall off. She Is not fall off of what? Like, they. She lifted him up. Like, he does DJ gigs. Like, and people go, yeah, yeah.

[A]

There's a lot of, like, there's space for a lot of DJs.

[B]

I also saw Hood of Mustafa got paparazzi. Did you see this? Like, she's walking out. It was so staged. And they were, like, talking about her music and she said, like, the music industry has been so open, like, from. She's actually, like, been really shocked at the reception from the music industry since she released her song.

[A]

I saw that, like, her dream collaborator is Rihanna, which is so different.

[B]

I love, like, when people choose those sort of, like, alternative artists.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She is one of the. She remains, like, the craziest person I've ever seen on tv.

[A]

Yeah. And she's like, really on. Like, does she have any friends from her season? It's crazy that, like, Hood is from Sierra season and Shelly and.

[B]

But she was on the outs even in the villa. Like, the girls were done with her by the end.

[A]

Not done enough.

[B]

No. Agreed. But, like, the fact that they didn't remain friends with her is not shocking.

[A]

No.

[B]

The fact that they remain friends with Alandra, which was like, sister. That's shocking.

[A]

Yeah. I also have been following the current islanders, like Kenzie. She's out in the Hamptons.

[B]

I saw with Jaden and Caleb.

[A]

Oh, my God. I saw. What's her man's name?

[B]

Dylan.

[A]

Dylan. Hate. Yeah.

[B]

He's giving me, like, real grifter vibes.

[A]

Hey, he posted a picture, like, with a corny ass caption about how becoming a girlfriend, he made her his girlfriend. Like, like, you literally made her miserable. Shockingly, people like her so much out of the villa, which I'm so happy

[B]

for her that, like, she really is just, like, a nice girl. Yeah.

[A]

And she was just totally redeemed. Like, yes, she had, like, a bad few moments, but, like, we have forgiven her and, like, and she's having a good time and he's, like, totally riding her coattails. And, like, if she came out to, like, hatred, he would have dumped her in a second. So I hated his caption. But anyways, they're all together and it made me realize I haven't seen. Seen the core four together at all.

[B]

No, I know they all, like, did go to LA with their couples and, like, I don't know, do stuff. Got their hair done and, like, maybe recorded podcasts or whatever. Then a lot of them.

[A]

No podcasts have come out.

[B]

That's true. A lot of them went home individually. A lot of them went Home separately. So, like, Trinity and Bryce both went to Virginia together. But Zach and Kate, because he had to go to England and she went to New Hampshire, they separated.

[A]

Did you see that? He had to go to England because fans called immigration on him because of his visa.

[B]

I mean, I've said it once, I say it again, like, Love island remains like one of the most toxic mentally ill fanhoods of all time. That's insane.

[A]

Yeah. So he has to go sort out his visa.

[B]

Trinity and Bryce, like, are getting paparazzi everywhere they go. They are so famous. And then I also saw, it keeps coming up on my Instagram that, like, all these big talent agencies keep announcing.

[A]

Oh, yes, Trinity signed with wme. Gersh signed Anaya.

[B]

Bryce went to uta. Like, it's just so funny that they're all like, getting their teams in order.

[A]

Well, I, I had heard that, like, after this.

[B]

I read that article too.

[A]

There was like, like the 10 days after the season. They were like scheduled meetings and network scheduled for them with talent agencies. And I guess that's also. I don't know if they've always done that, but that might be the flip side of this exclusivity contract that they sign. It's like they're going to help them and be taken care of, be talent. So they had like, you know, and those are major agencies which historically, like, have not signed reality TV people until those reality TV people have really proven themselves as like commercial successes.

[B]

Bryce, like, is. It's actually, I do think that Nick, the timing of Nickelandria and then Bryce and Trinity, like, like, couldn't be more perfect because Bryce is a DJ and they were like this beloved couple. And honestly, I just feel like Nick's gigs are gonna go to Bryce. I forgot that he was a dj.

[A]

I didn't realize he was a DJ either.

[B]

He did a lot of things.

[A]

And Tumbler truck repairman.

[B]

Garbage truck repair man.

[A]

Yeah, he does garbage. He used to. Probably not anymore. Like, now he probably won't.

[B]

Yeah, like how Alyndra used to make elevators. Oh, that was her job.

[A]

Sterling. Love that.

[B]

Yeah, he had a field day with that.

[A]

He really did. And Mel, I know everyone's job from. Melanie works in a bikini store. Melanie worked in a bikini store. Trinity worked at Home Depot.

[B]

Did she obsessed Kada.

[A]

No profession to speak of. It's giving student like Corbin. Yeah, see, a student he did just graduate.

[B]

Corbin and Parmita are all over my table.

[A]

Oh, then there's the Miami gang of Corbin, Parmita and Gabriel.

[B]

Oh, and then has just Won a huge medal for, like, the long jump.

[A]

Oh, congratulations. And she also has been hanging out with all the casa people, even though she didn't know them then. I think, like, Maura and Sean's hanging

[B]

out with nobody because he's too good

[A]

for these people and, like, he has a child.

[B]

And I saw you went to an event and they were, like, asking where his fit was from, and he said, oh, actually my whole fit is from Shein, because I got a care package from them.

[A]

Pr.

[B]

It was so cute.

[A]

That is cute. It was.

[B]

It was, like, very innocent.

[A]

Caleb was hanging out with Nick at one point.

[B]

Who's Nick?

[A]

Alandria. He went to one of his DJ gigs and I think, oh, I saw that.

[B]

I saw that.

[A]

Kayla might be in the Hamptons.

[B]

Yes. With Jaden and Dylan and Hannah.

[A]

And Hannah's there. And Hannah's there. And Kenzie for cowboy colostrum.

[B]

Yeah. Right. Honestly, it's Love island summer. Like, it is.

[A]

And it's fun to see, like, who's remained friends. And what's crazy is the core four, their friendship won the season. Like, that was like. Like they were the final four because of their friendship. People just wanted them in and, like, they're the only ones not being friends right now.

[B]

Also, the streets, like, don't know if Melanie and Sincere are together. So, like, Melanie was one of the last people to come back to social media and post, and what she ended up posting was like a 20 thing carousel. Like, photos, none of them with Sincere. Oh, she also dyed her hair pink, which is, like, giving breakup. Yeah, I hope so.

[A]

I think she also, like, needed some time to watch all the episodes.

[B]

Right. And, like, gather information.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I haven't seen Sincere once, thank God,

[B]

and it's been amazing.

[A]

Yeah. And then I feel like we're forgetting about a couple.

[B]

Sol.

[A]

Have you been seeing Sol around?

[B]

No. I know she did that, like, turned Instagram live and then that's it.

[A]

She's been, like, wearing a lot of wigs.

[B]

You're kidding.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Her hair was one of the things I liked most about her.

[A]

I know. And every time she, like, wears a wig, I'm like, I love how you look naturally. So. But I haven't seen her, like, hanging out with anyone.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, and Jen and Gal, photo shoots, coffee.

[B]

It's a lot.

[A]

She has a bagel at Pop up.

[B]

That's my queen right there.

[A]

Really cute. I'm happy for everyone because, like we said, like, the humiliating nature nature of the show and the things that they do on the show, like, they deserve every minute of this.

[B]

Every fame, every follower, every dollar.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So they've earned it.

[A]

They really have. So it's. It's fun to watch.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, next story. Kylie Kelsey details Taylor and Travis's absolutely magical wedding. Kylie shared on her podcast on Thursday. Not gonna lie. She said, I would like to say congratulations to Tay and Trav. It was absolutely magical. I'm so happy for them. We love them so, so dearly. And it was only making it official because Taylor's been family now for quite some time. So that's that. She said, for any additional information, you can check in with Taylor and Travis, because any of the details they want to share, they can share. Otherwise, it was intimate and incredible and full of love, both for each other and everybody else's love for them.

[B]

You know, I, like, have long thought that, like, these two just, like, definitely hate each other. They're so different. But you know what? Now that the dust has settled, I actually think that they're super close. I do.

[A]

Super close.

[B]

Like, the fact that Taylor and Travis, like, hung out with them right after their wedding, and, like, they could have been by themselves. They could have been with anyone. And, like, they wanted to be with Travis's brother and his wife, like, that's really sweet. And I think Taylor, it's, like, super family oriented. She has one brother who she's really close with. She doesn't, like, a million siblings. So it must be exciting to, like, be getting more families, especially when, like, you know, in her position, there's probably not, like, a ton of people you could, like, trust.

[A]

It must be nice to get new people you can completely trust. Yes. 3.

[B]

I don't know if I would trust the dad. Like, Donna. Yeah, Donna. Donna, Jason and Kylie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think that the more I think about it, like, while these two had these not been the circumstances and they met in any other way, like, they definitely would not have liked each other, but, you know, you can't choose your family. And I actually think now, I think that they're really close.

[A]

Okay, that's really sweet. I think, you know, she, like, addressed the wedding, which she had to do.

[B]

She had to, just so she could move on.

[A]

She gave away nothing. Which she didn't. Which she also had to do, you know, because I think everyone's, like, waiting to see what Taylor and Travis want to say. And I thought what the one, you know, sort of personal thing that she said, which was that, you know, already been family. She's been family for a while now. Like, if she didn't like her. She didn't need to say that.

[B]

No. But it's actually a very sweet thing to say.

[A]

It is a nice thing to say.

[B]

I agree. No, I'm, I'm no longer looking into this, you know, but for you to

[A]

go from being like, oh, these two hate each other, like monster in laws,

[B]

I just want to say I didn't think that they hated each other. I thought that Kylie hated Taylor. Like just Kylie's personality type seems like the type of person who hypothetically would hate Taylor's personality type. Yeah, yeah. No, I think that I was wrong, which I know more than happy.

[A]

So for you to go from that to. They're very close.

[B]

I think that, like being with your brother and sister in law directly after your wedding, during your honeymoon, like, is a huge statement. Now we don't know it's like 100 true. But like street said that they were in Montana with Jason and Kylie and I'm just operating under that assumption.

[A]

I don't know why that would be a lie. Yeah.

[B]

And I think that that's very sweet.

[A]

Yeah, that is very sweet. So anyways, tick tock on the deets.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm getting daily reminder.

[B]

I'm getting. I'm getting concerned that it ain't coming.

[A]

It's been three weeks

[B]

and Paige Paul came and went.

[A]

She's still going.

[B]

Yeah. Right.

[A]

She's still sharing. Now they're on their honeymoon.

[B]

Oh, where is she?

[A]

I think they're in Nantucket. They're doing like a lot of like fishing on Nantucket. Oh, I think they're. Oh, how uncouth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A lot of fishing, a lot of beer drinking.

[B]

That's.

[A]

So they went to the dairy Boy store. Yeah. Like, so not a real honeymoon. Just like they took a mini moon

[B]

as the kids say.

[A]

Yeah. Which is cute. Are you ready for our next story? One number three.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Kim Kardashian is using her bar exam failure to sell energy drinks. So Kim shared an update yesterday about update, though. There's not really an update but just a more of promotion.

[B]

Yeah. She like made this big countdown, like announcement. I didn't really fall for it, but it was kind of like a serious countdown and like, I thought like something big was coming and it was just a commercial for the drink that already exists.

[A]

Right. So it was a commercial for a drink that we already knew that she was a part of and it was just like a big commercial making her a big part of it. There was lots of jokes. It was very high production. And her new energy drink brand is called Update. It's no caffeine and no sugar. The whole campaign is about how, like, you know, she's the hardest worker. And, like, I think that this drink. Drink. Is the hardest working drink.

[B]

Right? Like, what is the hardest working woman in the world? Drink to keep up. Update. Allegedly.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That one, like, didn't stick.

[A]

What?

[B]

Update.

[A]

It hasn't. I feel like now from here on.

[B]

No, it literally came out, like, well over a year ago. I got a PR package.

[A]

Oh, did you? I feel like.

[B]

And I put them in the fridge and, like, I meant to drink them and I never did.

[A]

A couple months ago, was announced that she was, like, she didn't start the company, but she was coming on and, like, making.

[B]

Revamping it.

[A]

And then this seems like, like. And that was more like B2B news.

[B]

No, no, it was like, out and stuff. Like.

[A]

And then this seems like the first real, like, B2C push.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

Maybe they're trying. Like, it's another big B2C push.

[B]

Perhaps. But it just feels like, like, Skims is doing so well. Like, why you gotta go and start another company? Like, it's good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, Kylie's also doing hydration as well.

[A]

Hydration 6 under Kai. Under K2.

[B]

OK. 2O.

[A]

Under Sprinter.

[B]

Right? Sprinter's not alcohol anymore.

[A]

Yeah, it's hydration sticks.

[B]

Kendall has 818. Yeah, this doesn't do it for me.

[A]

I'm not, like, running out and buying updates. The commercial was well done. There was a joke about how she didn't. Someone said, didn't you, like, fail the bar? She said, I didn't fail the bar. I raised it.

[B]

But you also failed twice. Is she gonna take it again? Please. No, I know, but, like, imagine she did all of that, like, just to not even finish.

[A]

I know.

[B]

You can only fail so many times, right? Like, if you fail, I think three times, they don't let you take it. Like, unlimited.

[A]

That would be good.

[B]

You can't just take it.

[A]

She's gonna try to get again. Like, knowing her, you know, she doesn't give up. Failure is not in her vocabulary. She will take it again.

[B]

I actually think it was only her first time taking it. No, she passed the baby bar and then this was her first time taking the regular bar. Bar.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Your JFK junior failed the bar. Like, there are greats who have.

[A]

But what did he. Aside from, like, being JFK Jr. Like, what did he do?

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

Great. As a lawyer.

[B]

I was a lawyer. Nothing. He started that magazine, which you don't have to be a lawyer to do.

[A]

Yeah. Like his greatness didn't come from the fact that he passed from his legal background.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I wouldn't use that as an example.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But yeah, what's to say, really?

[B]

What's to say about update? I'm not sure other than the fact that like, I personally don't care.

[A]

Yeah. And like don't waste a countdown. You know, I know like Taylor does it and Taylor she does, but I'm desensitized to her countdown.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

I know it's going to be like

[B]

a new vinyl, a new cover, but

[A]

when you're not a Countdown person and then you do a countdown like not with some news I already knew. Yeah.

[B]

Kim, this was definitely not countdown worthy.

[A]

Uh huh. Uh huh.

[B]

100%.

[A]

Okay. Are you ready for our fourth story?

[B]

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[A]

toast thank you, Causia.

[B]

You're welcome, Dia.

[A]

Our fourth story is a very crazy story. So Jerry O' Connell is making news, admitting that he was a terrible boyfriend to his ex, Juliana Ransig.

[B]

Yes. So that was the first I'm hearing of this.

[A]

So the way this story reached me was, I saw Juliana.

[B]

Me, too.

[A]

By the way, I don't follow her. She's on the boat saying, oh, my ex wants to talk about how it went down 20 years ago. We could talk about it. New episode of Billy Giuliana drops next week. The podcast drops next week. And then the caption, it said something about Jerry. I'm like, who's Juliana's random ex named Jerry? Like, what's the tea?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then come to find out she's talking about Jerry o', Connell, who went on Sirius XM show let's Talk off camera with Kelly Ripa, and he admitted to Kelly Ripa that he was a terrible boyfriend to Juliana. So this is what he said to Kelly Ripa that caused Juliana to make that video.

[B]

I mean, he said it, but then also, like, he got picked up a lot. It was like a. People magazine was obsessive.

[A]

Yes. But, like, this is what People magazine is saying that he said. So she asked Jerry about his relationship with Juliana. He noted that though they had appropriate. Yeah. Like, over 20 years ago.

[B]

He's married.

[A]

Like, she's married.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what? Kelly's asking the hard questions.

[B]

Kelly is gonna.

[A]

Kelly commend the cajones. It's true. Not mindless news. No. Finally, he noted that though they had a lot of fun together, he was a pretty terrible boyfriend. So in her memoir for from 2016, she alleged that he cheated on her and ended their relationship over intercom. Kelly intercom. Yeah. Like, you know, when you.

[B]

What, in the 90s? Yeah.

[A]

Kelly asked Jerry if Juliana had ran by him the contents of her memoir that pertained to him, and Jerry said she had not.

[B]

She doesn't have to if that's true.

[A]

Yeah. He said, now, listen, in Juliana Rancic's defense of this memoir, I Was a pretty terrible boy. Boyfriend. Hand up. I was not a good boyfriend. Let me take this moment to apologize to Julianna Rancic. I'm not kidding about being a terrible boyfriend. I was the worst. I wasn't the worst boyfriend. I was just a bad boyfriend. I was just not a great boyfriend. In the memoir, she said, were you

[B]

a good boyfriend or a bad boy?

[A]

She said, he broke up with her via intercom, which he confirmed. He said, I broke up with her through an intercom because Giuliana Rancic came to my condominium and hit my intercom. I was not expecting Giuliana Rancic.

[B]

This is.

[A]

She wanted entry into my condominium. Thank goodness. Buzzer gate security. I paid a pretty hefty homeowner's fee for these things. He said, I said, I did not know you were coming. You can't come up here. You can't come here unannounced. Notice no one had boundaries. Like, notice that no one had a key. They were dating, and she wanted to come into his condominium.

[B]

Of course, he's insane.

[A]

He said, no one had a key. So their relationship was not like that. But that was why I didn't like someone coming to my condominium.

[B]

Why does keep calling it a condominium?

[A]

And why does he keep calling her Juliana Rancid coming to my apartment when

[B]

she was Juliana Depandi, then she was Juliana Depandi.

[A]

She. He said, I didn't like someone coming to my condominium without an invite or even a text or a phone call. There was no warning, and I didn't want someone coming in because I didn't want any confrontation. He then. Then Kelly proceeded to read a line from Juliana's memoir on what Jerry said. Kelly, I had no idea this hat.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

Like, much like the bald woman running Juliana's memoirs, running out of goodwill, I didn't know they ever dated. That they contentiously. That she spilled the beans in 2016.

[B]

No, I knew none of this up until yesterday.

[A]

So Juliana says in her memoir that Jerry on the intercom said, nope, sorry, homegirl. Things change. But you take care, okay?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Now Jerry said, I don't recall exact wording, so I can't deny that I said that. It doesn't sound like something I would say. I mean, if I were writing a memoir, it would make for a good quote. I'm going to applaud Juliana for using colorful dialogue and everything.

[B]

Ooh, okay, he's gaslighting her.

[A]

So now Juliana hears that, takes to Instagram, and says, oh, you want to know the true story of what happened.

[B]

Check out my podcast.

[A]

It's coming out next week. I'm sure there's a lot of tea because he did probably cheat on her. He was a terrible boyfriend, and he's admitting to those things and, like, sort of, you know, trying to take the sting out of it, but she's gonna bring the sting back in.

[B]

And I do understand Juliana, like, responding to this. This on her podcast, because I think at the place that she's in, like, you only get so many big moments for your podcast.

[A]

So.

[B]

Yeah, like, so you know what?

[A]

I get it.

[B]

Like, this is a. This is a hustle. We all are doing what we have to do. I don't know if, like, the Bill and Juliana podcast makes waves very often,

[A]

but I would also say, like, the podcast should have dropped today.

[B]

Oh, for sure. Don't tell me to tune in next week, because I'll be on to something new next week.

[A]

I personally won't be tuning in.

[B]

No, of course.

[A]

Let me know what happens.

[B]

She, like, confounds me a little bit because she, like, left public life, like, by choice, right?

[A]

Well, she left E News and such.

[B]

Yeah. And I think a lot of people lefty news either by their own decision or not, and they continue to do other stuff, like social media, and. I don't know.

[A]

She, like. She does social media.

[B]

She, like, really disappeared. She doesn't have a podcast.

[A]

She does social media. She has a podcast. She left, like, television, but she does fatfit fun. Like, she. I don't know if that fit.

[B]

Fun is still a business.

[A]

I think it is.

[B]

FabFitFun is, like, so important to me.

[A]

Yeah, I know. So, like, she is, like, us, like, people, like, really like her and her and Bill, and they have a really nice marriage.

[B]

And Bill is rich. Well, they're rich. Excuse me. That was, like, very condescending in me. But, like, he, like, is rich.

[A]

Is he?

[B]

He won the Apprentice.

[A]

But that's like.

[B]

But not like Celebrity Apprentice back in the day, if you run regular Apprentice, it was, like, a huge deal.

[A]

It was. But it didn't mean that you were rich. It meant that you were, like, a smart person.

[B]

No, but it meant that, like, you were. He got, like, a big job. Like, you. Like, it used to mean something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We think of celebrity, but, like, that

[A]

was so long ago. Like, what happened to the job that's like winning America's Next Top Model? It didn't mean you were the Next

[B]

Top Model because, like, you were getting a job in business, not in modeling. Like, modeling is Fickle and fleeting. Like, it's like he went to business school. Like.

[A]

Yeah, no, he's definitely, like, smart and a good businessman. I think he's done well for himself, and there's a reason why he won the Apprentice, and I think that showcased his talents. But just because you win the Apprentice, like, doesn't mean you become a moneyed individual.

[B]

Oh, I like, actually think that it does.

[A]

Was.

[B]

Really, what does Bill Rancic do for work? Like, I know he's rich, or am I just, like, genuinely making sense?

[A]

But you think the Apprentice. Meet him.

[B]

And they also own a chain of restaurants.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's best known for winning the Apprentice. He's handsome. He looks like Eddie Cibrian. He's a restaurant owner. Of course they own rpm, which, like, is a big deal in Chicago. Like, I think it's, like, equivalent of BLT Steak. How? There's, like, a million of them. BLT steak, BLT Italian, whatever. That's what I think. He's also an entrepreneur investor becoming famous. Bill started an online subscription business, and since the Apprentice, he's invested and advised a variety of businesses and real estate projects. He's a professional speaker and author in a podcast house. Okay, maybe I'm, like, misremembering.

[A]

No, but that's sweet.

[B]

Yeah. I always thought, like, she left Ian. Like, left her public life because she had a rich husband, you know?

[A]

No, but she obviously, like, has opportunities. Like, you don't just, like, leave, and nobody really could do what she did.

[B]

After a girl, that's a job a

[A]

million girls would kill trying to fill the shoes that they cancel the show. Right. Because they could not find the shoes to fill that. Juliana and Ryan.

[B]

I don't think that E News was a failure this time around because they couldn't find the people to fill. I just think, like, it was too late. You're telling us news at 7pm like, we knew this yesterday.

[A]

No, like, the way people consume content is different than it was not what it was. And they just couldn't evolve.

[B]

She's just, like, an anomaly to me.

[A]

But even, like, red carpet coverage, that's still very.

[B]

It has suffered.

[A]

And they still try and fill the shoes.

[B]

Yeah, but they don't fill the shoes. The thing about Juliana and Ryan is, like, nobody knew who they were. They were just journalists, panelists.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Them filling with Laverne Cox, like, sorry, that's not gonna cut it.

[A]

Still trying to fill the shoes.

[B]

Still trying to fill the shoes. You know, Juliana Rancic left a gaping hole in media.

[A]

She lives so big shoes to fill.

[B]

Are you okay? Don't hurt your back. Don't hurt your back. Big shoes.

[A]

Some big shoes to fill.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And Ryan's. You guys left some little ones.

[B]

Funny,

[A]

cracking, like, things I think she has, like, Shaolin Bai. I think this is exciting for her podcast. It's crazy that Jerry o', Connell, who's, like, the most famous, nice guy. Yeah.

[B]

Very affable. Everybody loves him.

[A]

Everybody. But it turns out 20 years ago, he was kind of a cheating douchebag nightmare.

[B]

Well, I just feel like that's should be inspiration to cheating douchebag nightmares everywhere. Like, you can, too.

[A]

And the women. And the women who love them. However, yours probably won't change.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Don't let Jerry O kind of fool you. You know, he's not gonna change.

[A]

He's the exception, not the rule.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

So stay tuned. I look forward to People magazine recapping.

[B]

Recapping the podcast. Yeah.

[A]

Our fifth and final story. A little casting biopic news.

[B]

Tom Holland, Zendaya's boyfriend.

[A]

Yeah. Is filming Fred Astaire biopic next and plans to do all of the dancing himself.

[B]

Okay, I'm gonna need, like, a quick briefer on Fred Astaire.

[A]

Fred Astaire? You know Fred Astaire?

[B]

No. That's why I asked for the briefer.

[A]

He's like that acting dancing guy from, like, the 50s. Let's get his official.

[B]

What's he in that I've seen.

[A]

I want to say Singing in the Rain.

[B]

Oh, my God. I was gonna say that, too. Or, like, Guys and Dolls.

[A]

Okay. He was in. He's an American actor, singer, dancer, choreographer, and presenter.

[B]

Does Tom Holland sing?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

They are booked and busy, those two. Like, it's actually crazy. What are the odds? Like, genuinely, the most popular famous actress is married to, like, the most popular famous actor of their time. Like, they're both. They're gonna grow up to be, like, Brad and Angelina, hopefully. But, like, hopefully not. But I mean, in terms of career.

[A]

So he was in Top Hat, Funny Face, Swing Time.

[B]

Yeah. I think he's a swing king. I think he's like a swing dancer.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. Easter Parade. You know, he's. He. He started with Ginger Rogers.

[B]

I don't know. I feel like a biopic for a man. It's like a very hit or miss. Sometimes it, like, makes a great actor, and sometimes, like, I think it ruins a career.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Like, Austin Butler never, like, completely fell off after Elvis.

[A]

Fell off from where, though?

[B]

Like, he was literally. He was like this.

[A]

No, he was not.

[B]

Yes, he was.

[A]

He was like this.

[B]

No.

[A]

With a little K with a small peak fur.

[B]

He was on the up and up. And did he ever work after Dune?

[A]

It was shock. Got the part.

[B]

Yeah. But so the fact that he did, like, that means, like, you're chosen. Like, what's next?

[A]

I actually think Austin Butler is, like, having success as an actor. We just refuse to see it.

[B]

No, I'm telling you.

[A]

And he's gonna be playing like, Norman Bates, American Psycho.

[B]

He's gonna. Gonna. Gonna.

[A]

I just, like, I feel like we have, like, a blockage, you know, and we can't, like, we act because we think so.

[B]

Jeremy Ellen White being like Bruce Springsteen, people hated. I personally hated Timothy Chalamet as Bob Dylan. Like, I. I don't know.

[A]

Rami Malek as.

[B]

That was a make or break. And he make.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Taron Egerton make.

[A]

Joaquin Phoenix, Johnny Cash. Major. Yeah.

[B]

It's just a little. I think it's like, a little risky sometimes, honestly.

[A]

But I don't think so because even if it doesn't, like, make you, like, it's good quality work. And, like, it's like.

[B]

I feel like it backfires.

[A]

Like, I think it's, like, safe.

[B]

Oh, I don't.

[A]

I think it's safe.

[B]

And then you're, like, comparing to, like, who you're playing, you know?

[A]

And also, I feel like this will be, like, a cute. It'll be like a cool setting for a movie. You know, the swing and the. It's based in. Oh, my God. He was born in 1899.

[B]

Like, they sing Tom Holland. I'm like, no, he wasn't.

[A]

Obviously. Like, his career is in the 1900s, but he was born in the 1800s.

[B]

That's really spooky.

[A]

That is crazy.

[B]

That's like, what they probably are going to start saying about us soon. Like, we were born in the 1900s.

[A]

That is what they're going to say about us in 100 years, lest we not judge.

[B]

So true.

[A]

He had a long dancing partnership with Ginger Rogers. I wonder who will play she.

[B]

They literally cast Zendaya in everything that they do. So, like, sure, make it Zendaya.

[A]

So cute, you know.

[B]

Did you see the Hollywood reporters, like, or Variety one of them is getting? Because they wrote up a thing on the Odyssey, like, ranking the performances of all the actors.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. And they put Tom Holland 17th, like, dead last.

[A]

Oh, he's in it.

[B]

Yeah. And Zendaya. Oh, is that crazy?

[A]

I don't know. Everyone's in the Odyssey, I guess. Like, it's a huge Cast. Right.

[B]

Oh, and then Anne Hathaway was talking about working with Christopher Nolan again. What was she in with him the first time? Robert Pattinson was in it with him once.

[A]

See, everyone's in this movie. You're naming people.

[B]

I'm like, are you not following the press? No.

[A]

Up. Because I'm not on Tick Tock, so I don't get served.

[B]

When did Anne Hathaway first work with Christopher Nolan?

[A]

You, like, just see them all day long.

[B]

I do.

[A]

They say clips of their interviews. Is Flash doing interviews?

[B]

Oh, Dark Knight Rises. She was in that. I didn't know that she was in Catwoman.

[A]

Is Flodge doing interviews?

[B]

Who's Flodge?

[A]

You know, flage. That woman who, like, with Blake Lively.

[B]

If I'm a celebrity and I'm an actress, I'm keeping Flodge the away.

[A]

Flash also, like, has beef with Anne Hathaway, too. Yeah, I know, but she apologized.

[B]

She was not going down the blink. You guys know, I think she's, like, Dutch. She's a international reporter who, like, is obviously, like, very.

[A]

She's sort of the. The Juliana ran of her country of the Netherlands.

[B]

Because anytime a actress or actor does press, she's there representing, like, the Netherland media community. And she, like, has all this archival footage. Remember she had that video of Blake Lively, but she was like, oh, your bump looks so great. Like, was, like, your bump looks great. That was crazy. And then that video went so viral, literally started the Blake Lively cancellation hate train. Like, literally. And then she was, like, trying to make lightning strike twice. So she had this, like, nasty video of Anne Hathaway from, like, years ago. It came out, and, like, people were starting, and Anne Hathway just got back at the Good Graces of America. She's not going back. So she, like, reached out to the woman, like, sent her a million dollars, got her a gift, and, like, it was diffused.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So just know, like, if I'm ever

[A]

in a film, you will be. She's on the.

[B]

She's on the no Fly List.

[A]

Skipping press day with Flash.

[B]

A thousand percent.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm calling in sick that day.

[A]

Yeah, 1,000%.

[B]

Well, those are the past five stories. I don't feel like an issue. Queenie and Meanie. Because I already said mine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have any thoughts?

[A]

Cop out?

[B]

Oh, fine. Let's do Queenie.

[A]

Well, no, we, like, we didn't.

[B]

No, Juma is my Queenie and my weenie. Like, I'm sorry, you have to read her comment section. She's fighting for her life, but she's actually like eating people up. But when I saw that thing the other day, like, oh, nickel Andrew woke up. Here's everything I've gotten. And not posted. Like, thanks.

[A]

I wonder if like, if she does that with other people too. Like, would she post a cheating rumor about someone?

[B]

I don't know. I don't know what the ethics of Dumois are.

[A]

Like, I don't think I like thinking back. Like I don't think she's ever posted like cheating rumors.

[B]

I think like back in the day she had like a lot less to lose and she was just like sort of posting whatever came her way. And I do think she's probably gotten like a substantial amount of like threatening legal notices, ceases and desist. So she's definitely more careful and her content has suffered because of it. But like now she's like a full on media company so she has more to lose and she's like.

[A]

And you don't just like post like baseless cheating. Someone messaged you, right? Or saying like, seems like he doesn't want to be around Alandra. Like how do you even know that?

[B]

Like we're just making up things based on vibes now.

[A]

That's not appropriate and that's not what a media person does.

[B]

Yeah, but I just think like the whole. Yeah, it was Queenie and Weenie.

[A]

I understand everyone.

[B]

Hope you have an amazing weekend. Thank you so much for a great week of ter and we'll see you on the next one. Thank you so much for listening to the f YouTube subscribe YouTube Please help you to subscribe. Thumbs up. We're also available as podcast every podcasting found Spotify itunes all the places where we listen to podcast v about a beautiful setting and weekly talented we are Love ya.

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Bye.