Crack is Back, But Still Whack: Friday, February 28th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Crack is Back, But Still Whack"

Episode Title: Crack is Back, But Still Whack
Release Date: February 28, 2025
Hosts: Claudia Oshry & Jackie Oshry
Description: Take a bite out of The Toast, weekdays with Jackie & Claudia Oshry.

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1. Theme Song Release

Claudia and Jackie kicked off the episode with exciting news about their podcast's theme song being available on Spotify.

• Claudia Oshry [00:26]: "We were able to finally get our song on Spotify as a regular song."
• Jackie Oshry [01:08]: "Happy Fridays. You'll be able to say, like, Alexa, play Toast theme song."

2. Podcast Reviews and Responses

The hosts discussed their experience with podcast reviews, both complimentary and trolling, inspired by the "Celebrities Reading Mean Tweets" segment from Jimmy Kimmel.

• Claudia Oshry [02:30]: "We're responding to them quite directly."
• Jackie Oshry [03:19]: "Most of them weren't interesting notes. They were just hate filled."

3. Mason Disick Rumors

Claudia and Jackie delved into circulating rumors about Mason Disick allegedly fathering a child, addressing the credibility and inconsistencies of these claims.

• Claudia Oshry [04:30]: "There's a conspiracy theory that's, like, really taken off mostly on TikTok."
• Jackie Oshry [04:54]: "He seriously said that he has a one-year-old daughter."

4. Claudia’s Pregnancy Experiences

Claudia shared her frustrations with preparing for motherhood, emphasizing her preference for repurposing existing furniture over purchasing new items.

• Claudia Oshry [07:42]: "I ended up designing on Canva my whole nursery, and I haven't bought anything."
• Jackie Oshry [09:24]: "You can design nurseries on Canva as a hobby in your spare time."

5. Breast Pump Insights

A detailed conversation about breast pumps, insurance coverage, and the differences between Spectra models highlighted the practical aspects of motherhood.

• Claudia Oshry [15:03]: "If you don't, your breast pump is covered by insurance. Mine was $4."
• Jackie Oshry [16:00]: "The breast pump is premium technology that does an amazing service."

6. Running Point Sponsorship

Claudia promoted Netflix's new comedy series "Running Point," highlighting its connection to sports and its star-studded cast.

• Claudia Oshry [25:31]: "It features main character Isla Gordon, played by Kate Hudson."
• Jackie Oshry [25:48]: "Dream guest for The Toast, Mindy Kaling."

7. Justin Timberlake Concert Cancellation

The hosts reacted to Justin Timberlake canceling his final US tour concert due to the flu, discussing the backlash and comparing it to how other artists handle similar situations.

• Jackie Oshry [27:05]: "Fans are blasting Justin Timberlake after he cancels his final concert."
• Claudia Oshry [28:41]: "Nobody understands better than us falling ill."

8. Travis Kelsey Announces Return

Travis Kelsey confirmed he would not be retiring after 12 years in the NFL, expressing his commitment to reaching peak performance and aiming for another Super Bowl win.

• Jackie Oshry [36:14]: "Travis Kelsey confirms that he is not retiring."
• Claudia Oshry [36:41]: "He could have retired, but he understands he's not ready to go out like that."

9. Christina Hall’s Prenup Regrets

Claudia and Jackie discussed Christina Hall's regrets over not signing a prenuptial agreement with her third husband, highlighting issues of asset division and marital disputes.

• Jackie Oshry [43:16]: "Christina Hall regrets not signing a prenup with her estranged husband, Josh Hall."
• Claudia Oshry [44:43]: "He has no grounds, and he's like a grifter."

10. Southern Charm Recap

A comprehensive recap of recent events on "Southern Charm," focusing on Shep and Sienna's tumultuous relationship and JT's potential departure from the show.

• Claudia Oshry [67:56]: "Shep has the actual balls to recite to Austin the text message he wrote to Sienna."
• Jackie Oshry [69:05]: "Shep is spiraling and realizes he's hit rock bottom because of this girl."

11. Kids Programming News

The renewal of "Spidey and His Amazing Friends" for its fifth season at Disney Junior was discussed, alongside personal opinions about the show's content and its impact on viewers.

• Jackie Oshry [55:52]: "Spidey and His Amazing Friends has been renewed for season five at Disney Junior."
• Claudia Oshry [56:24]: "I hate the music associated with this show."

12. Fashion News: Low Rise Jeans Trend

The hosts commented on the controversial trend of models displaying butt cracks at Milan Fashion Week, critiquing the resurgence of low-rise jeans and its reception by style gurus.

• Jackie Oshry [63:51]: "Models are bearing their butt cracks at Milan Fashion Week."
• Claudia Oshry [64:17]: "Butt cracks are ugly because models are supposed to have the most beautiful of everything."

13. Final Segment: Queenie and Weenie of the Week

Claudia and Jackie concluded the episode by awarding "Queenie of the Week" to Becca for her contributions and "Weenie of the Week" to Sutton Strack for her behavior on "Real Housewives."

• Claudia Oshry [74:16]: "Becca is our Queenie of the Week for winning our theme song competition."
• Jackie Oshry [75:33]: "Sutton Strack is our Weenie of the Week for her actions on 'Real Housewives.'"

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Notable Quotes:

• Claudia Oshry [02:30]: "We're doers, movers, and shakers."
• Jackie Oshry [03:19]: "Most of them weren't interesting notes. They were just hate filled."
• Claudia Oshry [07:42]: "I'm so proud of repurposing a lot of the furniture that's already in my home."
• Jackie Oshry [15:04]: "You gotta go Blue Spectra, not Pink Spectra."
• Claudia Oshry [44:33]: "She was trying to steal some of her assets, including ATVs and quad bikes from her home."

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Toast, Claudia and Jackie navigated a diverse array of topics ranging from personal experiences with pregnancy and motherhood to celebrity gossip and industry trends. Their candid discussions, peppered with humor and insightful commentary, provide listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives on current events and personal journeys.

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For more episodes, subscribe to The Toast on your preferred podcast platform and join Claudia and Jackie every weekday for your daily bite of engaging conversations.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

They sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, you do sound amazing. I am so. Oh, excuse me. Now my iPad, like, not behaving. Of course, we play the intro song every time the show begins, but today it is especially because I'm so excited that after talking about it all week, we were able to finally get. Finally. Honestly, we turned it around really quick. Our song on Spotify as, like, a regular song. It will be on all the streaming services in due time. Yes. Like, they're all being processed. Spotify went up first and thank God, because, like, I think that's the most important one. So your kids can stream it in the car.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. We've been needing this and glad to have it by the end of the week. It's new Music Friday. Stream your new favorite song. Toast theme song.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

Happy Fridays.

[Claudia Oshry]

You'll be able to say, like, alexa, play Toast theme song, because it's gonna be on Amazon Music. It's gonna be, I think, on, like, Google Whatever.

[Jackie Oshry]

So whatever might play our podcast episode that's called the Toast Host theme song.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's actually really confusing. We'll have to. We might have to change that episode title.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Wow. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, at the time, you should be.

[Claudia Oshry]

Able to be cooking and be like, Alexa. Like, we. We can't. We can't interfere with that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Especially because that episode, like, I think 10 seconds in, I cursed, which I'm seriously regretting, because if it does come on by accident because you are with your kids and you want to play it, like, it's just not the vibe.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're gonna take care of it. Like, one thing about us, we are doers, movers, and shakers, and we have moved, we have done, and we have shook. What a week. I can't believe it's Friday. I feel like I really earned it. Every day was just sort of like working hard for the man.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it was a long one. It was a good one. It's the last day of February's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. It is the last day.

[Jackie Oshry]

Very much a fried Aries. Because it's the end of the week, the end of the month, and then it's March. Like, hello, March.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's giving in conclusion.

[Jackie Oshry]

March.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God, March. I didn't really put together that March was beginning Tomorrow changes everything for me.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're marching into March.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, that kind of changes things. Like, March is a new vibe.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, I guess we should have known because yesterday we dropped our final episode of the month on Patreon, which was a real kind of hot button, kind country Radioactive. Everybody's talking about our episode. We do this series, and we've started to do it less and less because it's honestly probably done it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think this is our third time ever, maybe second time.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's inspired by the famous YouTube series Celebrities reading Mean tweets on the Jimmy Kimmel show, where Jackie and I sit down and like, read our mean podcast reviews. Now, podcast reviews are interesting because people come to compliment, but they also come to, like, troll. And we're hearing some hard truths about ourselves. We're pretty much disagreeing with all of them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, that would make them not truths you can't call truth.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah, no. We're hearing some mean ass about ourselves.

[Jackie Oshry]

Some ironic opinions about ourselves, some lies.

[Claudia Oshry]

And we're responding to them quite directly.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like I didn't really respond to them. That was like, that's kind of like, I didn't know if, like, if this isn't a debate. Like, we're just like reading the reviews, chuckling, being like, no, thanks. There was like a couple things that's like, oh, that's an interesting note. But really most of them weren't interesting notes. They were just like, hate filled. And I don't feel like we resp. I didn't respond to them because, like, I don't waste my time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, you know, you'll just have to tune into the episode to find out what we did because we can't even really figure.

[Jackie Oshry]

And what we did.

[Claudia Oshry]

We can't even figure out exactly what we did do. But if you listen to it, you'll figure it out.

[Jackie Oshry]

You'll know what we did and what we did not do.

[Claudia Oshry]

And what we did not do is what we're doing, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Oh, my God. You and I haven't even spoken about this and it's so Internet. Like, I'm embarrassed to even, like, share that I know about it there. Yes. Oh, my God. How did you know I was gonna say that?

[Jackie Oshry]

So Internet, and I'm embarrassed to even know about it.

[Claudia Oshry]

There is a conspiracy theory that's, like, really taken off mostly on Tick Tock, but it's that Mason Disick, you know, the 15 year old firstborn son of Kourtney Kardashian and Scott Disick has fathered a child. They're saying that he got a girl pregnant in his high school and they have a daughter named Class. They have a daughter named Piper.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's one years old.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't think he would have a daughter. I just want to say I don't think he would have a daughter named Piper when his sister's name is Penelope. I just want to say so that's how I know that the, the rumors aren't true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that doesn't convince me. The thing is, so everyone's like there's these rumors. I'm like, what is the source of these rumors? Where do they come from? And apparently they come from Mason cell. Like he posted to his finsta, he did a Q A and you know.

[Claudia Oshry]

He just kind of like lets it always starting stuff.

[Jackie Oshry]

He lets it rip. And in his Q A like he seriously said that he has a one year old daughter. He posted a picture of her and said that she was a failed protection.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now there have been a lot of Mason Disick finsta like moments. Are we sure? Is this a verified account?

[Jackie Oshry]

I. That I don't know. But like I saw screenshots of a alleged fin stuff from Mason and that's where this is coming from because he like kind of goes on Instagram, Finstagram and spills the beans. Like he told us all that's like about Travis and Kylie if they were still. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Every now and then he figures out the WI fi password in his house and like uses it to spill his family secrets. Well now you know he's a grown ass man because when people were saying this I'm like ew, don't talk about a child like that. But he's like literally a teenager. Like this could happen.

[Jackie Oshry]

This is where the rumors stem from. But because I didn't see it with my own two eyes from the primary source. Like anyone can make up a screenshot and make up a thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

So you also make up a Finster.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So I'm like not going to report on it as Vera.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're not reporting. We are not reporting. I'm just remarking.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's definitely weird. Like it's a. It's weird to talk about the 50 year old kid and the 1 year old child and the girl in the art class and Viper. Like I. It's weird to talk about.

[Claudia Oshry]

I kind of love the name Piper. Just want to say if that is.

[Jackie Oshry]

The name that they went with, it's cute. And that made Courtney a grandma. And then Piper and Rocky are the Same age.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, that's always, like, a weird part in Hollywood when you have, like, children later in life and then, like, your kids already have kids. So, like, your grand baby is also your niece.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, but I feel like that happens more so on, not unnaturally, but because, like, men can have kids until a certain age. So for a woman to have a child and then another child, but the first child has a baby when she's like, that's. It's kind of beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Courtney, having children, like, 16 years apart is biblical.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And that's how they did it back in the day, right? Like, yeah. You were 16 years apart from your parent and then your grandparent until they could have four generations, like, living under one.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe not 16, but, like, 22, 19, 20. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

So you're 20, 40, 60, 80.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's not a story by any means. I just felt like I had to speak on it.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then Piper would be having a living great, great grandmother in mj.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

You would honestly have him young.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a beautiful if true. It's a beautiful story.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's beauty in it if true.

[Claudia Oshry]

I had kind of, like, an experience last night, kind of a frustrating one.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, share your truth.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, Jackie and I are very proud Jewesses, and just, like, a fun part of our religion is, like, a deep sense of superstition. Right. And I kind of like that about us. Like, we don't really plan for the future. It's like, it's not something I take umbrage with in my religion. You know, there's some things I'm, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Really convenient sometimes, but.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, when you're trying to plan for your future with as a pregnant lady, like, it's definitely inconvenient. And last night, for the first time, I was like, oh, my God, I don't even have, like, a napkin. Like, I don't have anything in my house. Like, and when you go on TikTok, and there are girls who are, like, the same stage of pregnancy as you doing. Doing nursery reveals. And, like, you seriously don't even own a crib. It's. It's. It's jarring. And so I don't need a crib, obviously, but I was just, like, last night, like, maybe I should just, like, make a plan, you know, not buy anything, right? Like, grab a neighbor, grab a snack, make a. Not buy anything. Then, you know, once I started, I got, like, really crazy. I ended up designing on Canva my whole nursery, and I haven't bought anything, and I will not buy anything. And I Will not do anything. But let me tell you, it's so par.

[Jackie Oshry]

So aesthetic.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's so aesthetic. I. I'm so proud of myself. Repurposing a lot of the furniture that's already in my home. Because I'm really not in the mood to, like, spend money, you know, this is already going to be an expensive venture of my life. Like, I don't need before the kid even gets here to like, be spending money. So I like, was on these, like, room renovator design AI websites, like, trying to come up. But I came up with this. I'm not going to share it because that. That's like giving Kanahara, like, superstition vibes. And I'm not buying anything. But I feel good knowing, like, when the time comes to buy, I know exactly what I'm buying. Like, I don't have to spend time planning. It's just a click of a button.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And you can, like, just design nurseries on canva as a hobby in your spare time. Like, that's just.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I would love to. If anybody needs and design. I'm kind of good at it.

[Jackie Oshry]

It doesn't mean anything. They're like, it's not canine. Like, it's just a fun thing to do.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now. It goes without saying. Like, I think designing a girl nursery is so much more fun. Although I love where I ended up. And there. There are less obvious themes when it comes to boys. You can't have like a monster truck themed nursery. But I was like, looking at inspo pics on social media. Like the girly ones with, like, the cute, like, pink wallpaper. Like, it's so cute.

[Jackie Oshry]

You gotta put a couple frames in.

[Claudia Oshry]

We do have extras, by the way. I could spray paint them blue.

[Jackie Oshry]

Claudia, you should. Do you see the balloons popping up around us?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Oh, I think that's a party idea. I like that.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's really cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do need to have a nod to the toast in there. I didn't throw that in my canva design yet. I'll get on it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. There's so many things you could put.

[Claudia Oshry]

So many. And then I also put together. You can put together like a private Amazon cart.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kurt.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because I wanted to put all these things in my cart. I'm obviously not buying them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, like, when the time comes, I'd like to be able to just buy my cart. But I don't want them sitting in my cart for the next couple weeks.

[Jackie Oshry]

I have to, like, take them out and put it back in.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I made like a private Kurt I need to run it by you, obviously. Like, it's just so crazy because when I need something as an adult, like, I need a towel, I get on Amazon. Right. You know, like, whenever you need anything.

[Jackie Oshry]

I really love getting towels on Amazon.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, fine, Fine, fine, fine. Not towels. So I need, like, a nail file. I get one on Amazon. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And, like, I understand why people get so crazy. Am I like, the mama industry? Because I think I'm so chill. I'm like, the top seller on Amazon. Works for me. And then I'm like, does it? I don't know. Where has this elephant towel been? Like, it was so cute on the kid, but I'm like, I don't know. It wasn't. And, like, some of the brand names were giving, like, AI generated Mom Cozy, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. I'm feeling like I understand why people get so crazy with just, like, every little product. Because I'm so chill. Right. I was, like, putting in my car. I'm like, oh, this is totally, like, filled with chemicals, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's. It's a slippery slope. I don't. I don't get crazy about, like, everything. Like, towels. I wouldn't get so crazy because you wash them before you use them anyway, and hopefully that takes away the chemicals.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, like, what about the thread count? Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that they're not cozy enough.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're not, like, warm enough.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's going to be harsh on baby skin.

[Jackie Oshry]

Harsh on baby skin. Skin. I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sometimes, like, I found myself something really critically.

[Jackie Oshry]

Have a towel that's too soft, it doesn't absorb the moisture, and then the baby is wet and.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. I found myself thinking really critically about, like, random things. And you know what else I found out?

[Jackie Oshry]

But then also, it's like, if you have a parchy towel that you like, that's the right amount of roughness and softness. You could just use that. And then, you know. Yeah, but it doesn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

It doesn't have the little ears. Like, where is the ears?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. If you don't have the ears. Well, you could also get, like, a little cap.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no. I remember bathing your children in that, like, gray elephant. It was the highlight of my life. It's too cute. I'm not giving up on that. Except can we talk about, like, a newborn baby towel? Like, even the. On Amazon, like, the crap from Mom Cozy China for one towel, $26. Like a. Hello. It's a washcloth.

[Jackie Oshry]

I see that. I'm like, oh, maybe it's good.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, they're taking advantage of, like, mamas who are unwell.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, that's true. But you do need a towel for your baby, so.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. But you also don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Something like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

You also don't, like, if you have.

[Jackie Oshry]

A towel in your house, but something like that. You. It's kind of nice to go to the store and, like, feel stuff.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I know, but that's so not happening. I can barely make it to work.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, that's why I feel like you live at Bloomingdale's. Like, that's where maybe I just. There on the 7th.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like up until this point, I'm, like, so chill. Like, no, I don't need things. And it's like, why? This is my first. Like, I can be crazy with my first child. No. Like, I just. I want stuff.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Literally 180 from you saying four minutes ago. I'm not spending any money on this.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. No furniture. I'm not spending money on. Like, that's the prices for some of these things. Like, it's actually disgraceful.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm just. Well, if I could share some lessons. I heard you say. Now I'm remembering. I heard you said on FaceTime yesterday, like, you don't need a changing table because you have the dresser. You can use a dresser as a changing table.

[Claudia Oshry]

I didn't say that. Okay. Because I picked out my changing table yesterday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Get a changing table.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, No, I picked it out. It's from Pottery Barn.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's part of.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, great. Get a change. So you'll buy that. You'll obviously buy the rocking chair, which you will use.

[Claudia Oshry]

You can the glider today. Yeah. I honestly got a great tip because, you know, they make gliders. I was talking this. The legs going up is super important. Right. And they make the manual and they.

[Jackie Oshry]

Make the electric fly back.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. But I'm like, why would anybody not get the electric? And then I was talking to my friend Margot, and she didn't get the electric. She's super religious. I'm like, is it because you don't want to use electricity on Shabbat? She was like, not really. Like, it hinders where you can put the chair in the room because you need an outlet. And I realized that the room that I'm using for a nursery has seriously one outlet. I have to get the manual.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. There you go. Also, the electric gives off a light that if your chair is, like, facing the crib, there's a light in their face. I used to, like, put a Tape over it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, silly. Yeah, that's problem.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, so you're gonna fly that?

[Claudia Oshry]

I like how they make baby. Yes, I like how they make baby gliders with, like, Bluetooth speakers. Speakers and chargers. Like Lazy Boy. You don't need that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, they have a cool charging port. It's like. Are you joking me?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. But you know what? I did find out, like, fun fact, and I feel like people probably know this, but I'm obviously, like, new here. But if you don't, your breast pump is covered by insurance. Mine was $4.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, you do know that.

[Claudia Oshry]

4.95.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did you already order one?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, I just checked what my insurance covered on the website.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you gotta go blue Spectrum, not pink Spectra.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of course, blue spectra.

[Jackie Oshry]

And do you know that the pink Spectra doesn't work unless it's plugged in? And the blue Spectra you can charge and take on charge. I only got blue because I had a boy. So I'm like, I guess I should get blue. And then I regretted it. I was like, I could have pink. I'm a girl. And then I learned that pink has to stay in the wall.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you know that there's a blue Spectra in this very room that I sit in? You must have left it at one of the studios. Like, you bought an extra one to pump with.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Can you share breast pumps?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. There's nothing like.

[Claudia Oshry]

So this could be my work. My work pump.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. There's something wrong with the screen. Like, it still works, but you can't really see all the numbers that you want to see.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you left a broken one here.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I still used it, but that's why I brought it to the office. And then I got myself a new one that I used at home.

[Claudia Oshry]

Got it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Got it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I love that because it was $300 on Amazon. I'm like, well, obviously I'm not going to forego a breast pump. But I'm like, damn, that's just funny. It's funny. What costs a lot and what doesn't cost a lot.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like breast pump is premium technology that like and does an amazing service and they can seriously charge what they want. And the fact that it's covered by insurance, like, they could charge more.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And you know what else was covered by my insurance that comes with my Spectra? 400 bags. God willing, I should make so much milk that I use the bags.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, that's. You don't want 400 bags in your house.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I don't, but it's free. I couldn't choose A different amount.

[Jackie Oshry]

You couldn't. That's gonna, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it was automatically added when you put in the blue spectrum.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think I got a hundred bags and I never went through all of them.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. But maybe I'll be a super supplier.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe you will be a super.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, with jugs like mine, you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Would think it has nothing to do with breast size. Shockingly, no.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't mean more about the size. I mean the personality and girth of my breasts. They give super producer energy. Do you not agree?

[Jackie Oshry]

I understand you, but it's crazy how it doesn't work that way.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I'm not talking about size. I'm talking about real grit, personality.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, I know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because I don't know if I would say that your breasts have the energy of super producers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, they're not super. They were never a super producer.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. It was. I would say you were a little below average.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, for the first. A little below for the second bar. Cheat Lee. Adequate.

[Claudia Oshry]

So, no. I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm feeling. Yeah, I'm feeling like a supplement.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I feel like I could feed the whole block. Honestly, that's kind of the vibe my breasts give off.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah. I really don't even know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I've heard being a. No, I've heard being a super producer is like, just as bad as being an under producer. Like, it's. It's not a blessing. Like, when you get to a certain point.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. At a certain point when you're filling up, like, actual milk mason jars.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So you're not gonna. Hopefully. That would be crazy. But good for content. You're not a super producer, but, like, you might be. Party.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just wanna let you know if I am a super producer, like, I am becoming one of those girls on Tick Tock who says, like, they give you a breakdown. Here's what. And they literally fill up, like, you know when you go to Costco and you. That big gallon of milk, like, they fill up three of those a day.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. That is like one in a billion person.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's burdensome.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know anyone who's had that experience.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I'm actually pregnant at the same time as a lot of my friends. Like, I could share and they would know it's coming from, like, a good clean source.

[Jackie Oshry]

You could. You could sell.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

You could donate.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just keep. I just keep finding out, like, even more of my friends are pregnant and I can't tell you how fabulous it is.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's very exciting.

[Claudia Oshry]

It really is. Like, just. Just kind of crushed It. Honestly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. You're like, so you must love that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, being a part of, like, every.

[Jackie Oshry]

Time I hear, not early, you're not late.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm just with the rest of them. And for. For a lot of my friends, it's their second, but a lot of it's a lot of them. It's their first. Like, not me. Like, being, like, living life on a good timeline. Like, sorry, I know you're not supposed. You're not supposed to, like, compare. Like, everybody's on their own timeline. And, like, that was me, too, because I was, like, literally not wanting to have kids. Like, when I'm 26, 27, I'm like, oh, no, still known. 28, now 29, not really 30. Okay, fine. So for somebody who cares a lot about timelines, like, sorry, that's my toxic trait. I am absolutely crushing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. For someone who cares, like, what everyone else is up to, but literally for.

[Claudia Oshry]

Somebody who's always looking over her shoulder.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Crushed.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm happy for you. Friends who are pregnant.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, of course I'm not going to. I'm not going to blow up their spots, but it's. It's. And it's a really party crew coming together.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, it is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Of, like, NYC moms.

[Jackie Oshry]

Will you be, like, sad and happy but, like, when you leave them? Because, like, you will, like, graduate from the program soon.

[Claudia Oshry]

Why am I leaving? Oh, yeah. Because some of them are, like, further behind. Some of them are. Some of them are ahead.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I feel like I kind of crushed that, too. Like, there's a couple ahead. I'm right in the middle.

[Jackie Oshry]

Honestly, you're not gonna be the first one leaving.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're not gonna be the last one there. No, Rachel totally goes next. Like, it's. It's kind of hardy. No, I won't feel sad. I. I can kind of be, like, a guiding light for others.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's so beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. It's been nice. And now it's just. My phone knows, like, I'm. My phone knows that I'm debating between the Uppababy Vista and the Bugaboo Fox 5, and they're torturing me with it. They're torturing me with it to the point where, like, I actually don't care anymore. Just, like, give me a stroller.

[Jackie Oshry]

I shared my thoughts because I have both.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. Like, but let me tell you, I actually have. The Bugaboo is in New York. Like, if you wanted to just take it. Oh, it's my stroller.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, I'm being free.

[Jackie Oshry]

Free.

[Claudia Oshry]

There's a stroller in this studio.

[Jackie Oshry]

There should be. Or it's like in. It's in New York.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's not here.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's in my storage unit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, like, you are so up. A baby Vista, baby. And then I saw a girl on Tick Tock this morning. Like, they know she was so chic. Like, she would have her. I've been reading this out, but a lot of my friends in New York City who, like, live similar lives to me. Like, they. They're working moms, but they like, you know, spend half the days with their kids. Like, very similar structures. They swear by the Bugaboo Fox five. So.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Bugaboo is like, definitely like the cooler chica stroller a little bit. But like, oh, it is like, everyone really has the Uppababy. But like, Bugaboo is. Is very nice. And I know some people do the Bugaboo donkey because it will easily convert into a two kid stroller if you're.

[Claudia Oshry]

I can't think that far ahead.

[Jackie Oshry]

And also. But then it's really wide. But then there's like a little. You can make it like a little smaller and then there's a little compartment. You could put Romeo in there. Just think about that.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I. I need you to tell me honestly, like, because all I care about is, like, being a cool mom. Like, when I walk in the streets and when I finally start looking like myself again and I have the six stroller, like, what is the Rolls Royce?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, well, the Rolls Royce. Like Dior makes a stroller.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, but of, of baby brands. Like, yeah, I know Dior is cool, but like, who has better, like, branding?

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, then there's also Silver Cross. Like, now we're like, it's not just.

[Claudia Oshry]

I took a look at Silver Cross.

[Jackie Oshry]

But really like, the Uppababy. You will see if you start to like, go to the parks and start. Everyone has the Uppababy like, for a reason. I love the Uppababy Vista, but Bugaboo has like, something cooler about it because maybe it's like, yeah, we don't care how easy it is to break down. We like how right.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're too cool for that. And you know, I'm just now remembering because our sister Olivia, when she gave birth to her first, like, we were all so excited. And I remember my gift to her, like, was her stroller. Just feel like I should remind her of that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, you should.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like she does. She just doesn't remember. I Bought her, like, the silver cross. I remember I was like, oh, wow, strollers are expensive. But of course, it was our first baby. Like, we were all.

[Jackie Oshry]

Between Olivia and I, we have every stroller out there. Right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

I've literally teased this so many times. I could do a whole vlog on show. I have so, so many strollers. They are my passion.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's so crazy. I just am like, like, nothing I'm.

[Jackie Oshry]

More exciting than getting a new. And in the beginning, I was like, I'm getting the duna. Cuz I knew we were going to move in a few months. And I was like, I don't want a million strollers, like, in my hallway. And I didn't have a love of stroller yet. I was like, we can walk around in the duna. Like, that's fine. And then I, like, just started to see other people's strollers, and they had, like, bassinet attachments. So then I got, like, the yo yo, because it's collapsible and had a bassinet, and it was like just this little bassinet stroller. But then I had to itch. And then I remember I was like, it. I'm getting kind of like, purses. Kind of like purses, like. Yeah, so.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's like the journey I went on last night. Like, now I know about the products and the names, and I'm like, one of those girls. But you know what? Sorry it had to be done until.

[Jackie Oshry]

You got your first.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I'm excited.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's exciting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, in terms of show, how are the stories? The Epstein files, like, were not released.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, like, 200 pages were released of, like, things we already knew. Like, and just, like, his contacts in his phone. So there's, like, new names, but it's like, that doesn't. I don't even want to say those.

[Claudia Oshry]

Names because it's not a smoking gun.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not at all. He had Mick Jagger's phone number. Like, like, sorry that I said Mick Jagger. Sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

Useless. Waiting for the Epstein files is like waiting for rain in the stroud. Apparently useless and disappointing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Pages, like, were withheld.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And, like, good on that lady Pam, who's, like, all about it, you know, she's figuring it out. Like, thank God we've been, like, waiting for somebody to take on the job. And so take your time but, like, figure it out and stop, like, teasing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, this cheese was. Was kind of hard. And then, like, the binders, and it's like, okay, they're here. And then it was. It was a nothing burger, but Then apparently a whistleblower told Pam that there's thousands of pages that like the FBI or the Southern district of New York, with help from her. So, Pam.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's a developing story, not the.

[Jackie Oshry]

Big, you know, breakthrough news we thought.

[Claudia Oshry]

We were getting today. No new news, but we have Queenie and Weenie of the week. We have Southern Charm recap. And the new episodes of Love is Blind dropped today, which we will be enjoying all weekend long.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I have to read this weekend for redheads, so my love is blind watching. We'll take a back seat. But do what you have to do.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'll be there for you guys.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do what you have to do, Turdy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I will.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do what you got to do. Are the Oscars this weekend?

[Claudia Oshry]

Are they?

[Jackie Oshry]

It feels like they are. People are talking about them a lot. Like I'm seeing.

[Claudia Oshry]

They're just talking about Carla, Sofia Gascon.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, no, that's like separate. What I'm seeing is like People magazine, like, remembering Oscars 1993.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, tributes.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, not like tributes, but just like going down Oscar's memory lane, like, in preparation.

[Claudia Oshry]

The fabulous thing about this is that we could Google it. Oscar 2025.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I'm liking using context clues, so that would make that feels.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you want to put in. Do you want to put on a final guess as to when the Oscars are airing?

[Jackie Oshry]

I think they're airing on Sunday, March.

[Claudia Oshry]

2, 7pm yes, you are correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wow, that feels right.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what else feels right? Diving into the Fast5 stories you need to know you do.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a gargi party morning with Jackie O and Turdy Loo and the gargie.

[Claudia Oshry]

Partying is brought to you by Netflix and their new comedy series Running Point. It comes from Hitmaker and, you know, potential ideal guest.

[Jackie Oshry]

Dream guest.

[Claudia Oshry]

Dream guest. For the toast, Mindy Kaling. And its stars are rom com queen Kate Hudson. So it's a really edgy, bold, and funny twist on the underdog comedy. It features main character Isla Gordon, played by Kate Hudson, and her rise to one of the most iconic professional basketball franchises and her dysfunctional yet lovable family trying to block her shot. So basically, Kate Hudson's family, like, owns this big basketball team, and a scandal forces her brother to resign. She is then appointed president of the LA Waves, which is one of the most storied and professional basketball franchises. Franchises. And it's her family business, so she's ambitious. Often overlooked, Isla is gonna have to prove to her skeptical brothers, the board and the larger sports community that she was the right person for the job, especially in the unpredictable male dominated world of sports. She may have not been a part of the original playbook, but as skeptics will soon learn, she's calling the shots now. Like it or not, it's an easy and fun binge with a sharp and edgy laugh out loud moments. This is everything I need to enjoy my life this weekend. Like, made by Mindy Kaling. Check. Starring Kate Hudson. Check. Women in sports. I mean, this is a sports podcast. It makes sense why Netflix wanted to sponsor this episode. I'm so down. And it launched yesterday, so you can now watch it on Netflix. It's really pargy. From the creators of Never have I Ever, the Mindy Project. You could stream it now. Running Point isn't streaming now. Only on Netflix.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you. Turd flicks.

[Claudia Oshry]

Flicks.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our first story. Fans are blasting Justin Timberlake after he cancels his final concert of the US Tour minutes before showtime.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait, Justin Timberlake is getting hate and I don't know about it? That's so crazy because I'm kind of the. The creator of a lot of it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think you were like, busy on Canva and Ms. Sort of.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh my God, some of this on House.com. like trying to make. Also, why is it so fucking hard.

[Jackie Oshry]

To make a creative 3D rendering?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, why do you have to be an architect? Like, I. I know the room is a square. I know the dimensions. I could put a picture. Like, why do they make it so. Fuck no.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's seriously so crazy. I had this experience in the guest room.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

For you.

[Claudia Oshry]

And your. Your guest room is like unique shape room. Like, this is literally a square room. Why can't they just let me play around?

[Jackie Oshry]

They won't let you. They don't play around.

[Claudia Oshry]

And like, I was on fucking Reddit, like, people being like, what do you use? And I was like, like just using. Making free accounts at all. Like, it was seriously so annoying. I ended up just doing it on preview on my computer. But I slayed it. I wish I could share it, but I won't.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's like, you know, evil. I know, I know, I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Justin Timberlake posted to his IG story. You guys, I'm heartbroken. I have to cancel the show tonight. I went into soundtrack battling the flu and now it's gotten the best of me. It kills me to disappoint you and my team who work so hard to make the show happen. I want to reassure you, you'll be getting Refunds for your tickets. I love you all. So this was the final show in the US Tour. Don't forget, though, it's a world tour.

[Claudia Oshry]

Who could.

[Jackie Oshry]

So, like, there will still be global shows, I think, but this was the last show of the US And. And he had to cancel due to the flu, which I understand now.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of course, nobody understands better than us falling ill. But, you know, there is a way to cancel a show, and it's. You're gonna get backlash no matter what. Right. Like, people are gonna be mad, sad, angry, and this is probably the worst way to do it. Like, very Morgan Wallen. When people are already, like, in the facility.

[Jackie Oshry]

What's the better way to do it?

[Claudia Oshry]

The better way to do it is, like, I think you have until the morning of to make a decision, and if you're not canceling it, like, you have to do the show.

[Jackie Oshry]

Got it.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, the best way. The only person who's ever canceled a show and gotten no backlash is our king, Luke Combs, where he was very sick, and halfway through the show, he said, listen, you're all getting a refund. I'm still finishing, but it's not going to be my best work. So sing along with me. If I, like, take a break, you sing the words, you'll get a refund. We're rescheduling the show, but I'm still going to spend the next hour here. Like, that's our party king.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's.

[Claudia Oshry]

And so when people like that exist, it's hard to, like, say to Justin Timberlake, why couldn't you do that? You know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And then remember, like, Kelsey Ballerini played through the flu a couple of weeks ago, and she had to leave in the middle of the show also.

[Claudia Oshry]

So, yeah, leaving in the middle is different than canceling right before. Like, at least she tried, and she. People got, like, half a show and then are getting another one. So you get one and a half shows for the price of one ticket.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, they're getting scheduled or she refunded.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, your tickets will be honored for a rescheduled date. Like, she. She's re. She will be doing the show.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's not so terrible. The worst is obviously, like, Morgan Wallen. Like, while people are like, the openers already have played. Yeah. So there's a bad way to do it. There's really only. There's not even a good way to do it. But the Luke Combs way was, like, obviously the one.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's insane.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, did you. Have you seen the clip? People are like, he's like, listen, I'm really.

[Jackie Oshry]

Got a whole show and a refund.

[Claudia Oshry]

Can't sing, so I'm gonna refund your tickets. And everybody's like, boo. But. And then everybody starts, like, cheering when they realize they're getting a free show.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I've seen clips from that show. He sounded.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sure it was amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it's a tough spot to be in, especially when you feel really sick. Like, you really feel like you can't do much. And I think Justin just expected too much from himself, like, pushing himself, thinking, like, I'm Justin Timber. Like, I've got this. And he didn't have.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, he definitely has, like, a toxic sense of self.

[Jackie Oshry]

He didn't listen to his body. He tried to push through. And if he had listened earlier in the day, he could have canceled, like, with reasonable time before the babysitter showed up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I mean, I obviously choose to see the worst in Justin Timberlake.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, if this were someone that I loved, I would say, oh, my God. Feel better. You're such a queen. Like, take the time you need. That's really sweet. That, like, 10 minutes before doors open. Like, that's amazing. Who's even there at that time? No one.

[Claudia Oshry]

So funny. Yeah. You can really, like, paint this in whatever way you want to. Like, if this was Kelly Clarkson, this.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God. I would say Kelly works so hard. She loves her fans so much. She must be so, so sick. I feel horrible for her. I wouldn't even want to go. I wouldn't even want this. Keep my money. I would want to participate for your IV drip. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So we're obviously, like, haters. So that's what you're seeing reflected here.

[Jackie Oshry]

This is such a neutral way of handling it. Like, nothing really wrong happened. Is unfortunate.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's too. It's a little too soon. Minutes before. But you need to give people time.

[Jackie Oshry]

What if it was Kelly? She. She was pushing through to the end, and then the doctor came in and said, kelly, you can't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, the thing is, I could speak hypothetically, because it wasn't Kelly. So if it was Kelly, I would also say, like, girl, give people a little bit more time. But I know, like, if we were actually recording an episode and it was Kelly, I would be like, the thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is, you know what? It comes.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like my Karen Huger blind spot.

[Jackie Oshry]

It comes down to trusting your fates. No, because if Kelly did this, I would say, like, she must have been so sick. She must have wanted to go on so badly. And they literally were. They were holding her back from holding her back. Because I know that's Kelly's work ethic now. Just. Timberlake is not my fave. I don't trust him. I don't know that he's always trying to, like, do the best thing. That's why I can't say the same.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, and we actually have recent proof that he's not always trying to do the best thing, where he literally drove under the influence after having a couple of martinis in Sag Harbor. So I know that decision making isn't his strong suit. Let's be real. That's what I learned from the Great Justin Timberlake.

[Jackie Oshry]

DUI canceled a performance 10 minutes before.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, you know, I would have been in the front row, and I would have been really upset.

[Jackie Oshry]

We'd say, take all the time you need.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. I heard Karen Huger is thriving in jail.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's there.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's been booked. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. I think she'll. She'll do okay, I hope.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I hope they're filming, like, at some point somewhere, but, yeah, like, there's a camera somewhere. Although she didn't show up for the last reunion, and I thought it was, like, implied that she wasn't returning, but I can't imagine she would have turned down whatever paycheck they were offering her to cover this part of her life.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know what? It's time to throw that rule out the window for Karen.

[Claudia Oshry]

I, like, sometimes I'm throwing a lot of rules out the window.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sometimes it's a hard and fast rule. Like, you don't answer for your sins at the reading. You're not on the next season. Sometimes you're Karen Huger. And, like, seriously, what?

[Claudia Oshry]

Sometimes you're Mary Castle.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'll write wipe my ass with this rule.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And sometimes you're Adrian Maloof, blacklisted forever.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the rule wiped its ass with you.

[Claudia Oshry]

You were right.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I just think different strokes for different books. How about that?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. How about normalized? Yeah. Normalize being inconsistent because people are always like. Especially. I got, like, a lot of backlash for my Karen Huger take. And people were, like, so annoying to see Claudia. Like, I know I feel that. Like, but I just want to say, do not come to me looking for, like, consistency in all my thoughts and opinions when it comes to celebrities or just, like, random things. Like, I have my faves. I have people I hate. Like, I'm really mean to people I hate, and I'm really lenient with people that I like. Kelly Clarkson could seriously, like, drunk drive and kill me and I wouldn't care. Like, I just. I'm sorry. I have my faves, and I. Yes, I am an inconsistent hypocrite, okay? I don't fucking care.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's important to have rules. And then also, like anything else, there are exceptions to the rule.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, they're just rules for the and not for me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Rules for the and not for Karen Hooker and Kelly Clarkson.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. Yeah. Well, we need to make a list of people who the rules, like, the regular rules don't apply to.

[Jackie Oshry]

The notebook is out. It's for Iaris. Okay. This will be called those who to whom the rules don't apply.

[Claudia Oshry]

You find your pen?

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm scared. I can't find my pen. Oh, my gosh.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, hopefully you didn't take the. The cap off and it's leaking all over your chair.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's not. That's not what's happening.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you want me to write it down on my phone and we could transcribe it later?

[Jackie Oshry]

You could start while I just. I'm scrambling. I need to find my pen because it is mightier than the sword and.

[Claudia Oshry]

What did you say? It's not. What did you want? The pens. To whom. Rules to whom.

[Jackie Oshry]

Those to whom the rules don't apply.

[Claudia Oshry]

The rules don't apply. Karen Huger, Kelly Clarkson. Who else?

[Jackie Oshry]

And this isn't just, like, a list of our favorite people. It's just different. Like, it's. We're not gonna start just different. It's not like, dream, because, like, Taylor's.

[Claudia Oshry]

My favorite, but, like, if Taylor Truck can drive, like, I actually might have some harsh words for her.

[Jackie Oshry]

I completely agree.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because she's so influential. She shouldn't be knowing better.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, like, a younger person, like, really knows how to call an Uber more than an older person.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed.

[Jackie Oshry]

There are so many things. Okay, leave it. No, no, I think we just leave it at that and we let it build.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, we'll kind of let the chips fall where they read.

[Jackie Oshry]

So we're foolishly met To Justin Timberlake. I actually. I don't know if you guys can hear him coming down with a little something.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not again.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know, but I do think because I had, like, the big, bad flu, it shouldn't be as bad.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's giving antibodies.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is. Hopefully. Hopefully they kick in. Are you ready for our next story? A little sports news.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sports.

[Jackie Oshry]

Travis Kelsey confirms that he is not retiring. He said he can't go out like that. He has confirmed he will not retire after 12 years in the league. He told Pat McAfee, I'm coming back for sure. Gonna try and get to the best shape I've been in this off season and get back to the mountaintop. Got a real bad taste in my mouth with how I played in the last game and how I got the guys ready for battle. I can't go out like dad. So he will be back for his 13th, 13th season.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I think this is the right choice. Like he could have retired. Like he's at a place where he's done enough age wise, like he could have. But I understand a not wanting to go out like that be him and his team are at a point where like they still can win another Super Bowl. They should have almost won this one. Like it wasn't like, you know, impossible. So I think that he can go out with another super bowl win and if he is expending the next year committing himself to like peak physical mental toughness, like no one's more prepared like, like down and has, you know, experience doing that than Taylor, like that's her thing, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

That's true. He can't go out.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is his ERAS tour.

[Jackie Oshry]

He needs one more season where he's going to play worse.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, that's the thing. You always run the risks, of course, of, of Aaron Rodgers in it.

[Jackie Oshry]

The good news though is that even if he plays bad again, like he's on such a good team that his mistakes are kind of hidden. They won't have a horrible season even if they don't win the Super Bowl.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's not one of the players like a Tom Brady where if he sucks, the whole team sucks. Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

He'll have, the team will have a respectable season. So even if it's not his best, like it'll, it's, it'll be a fine way to go out.

[Claudia Oshry]

Although I do want to say it's not a terrible way to go out if you made it to the Super Bowl. Now the way they like the way they lost was really bad, but you still made it to the Super Bowl. So I don't think it's like the most embarrassing way to go out. Like what happened to the Aaron Rodgers and the jets, like, that's embarrassing. Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

But he didn't retire, did he? Aaron Rodgers?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I don't know what he's going to do, but I assume retirement is in his future, like sometime soon. And it's. You went to another team to like revive it very much like Brady and the Buccaneers. And not only did you get injured on day one, you never Won a game and then you got dropped. Like, that's embarrassing.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know what I think about a lot? Like, how much does Aaron Rodgers hate that guy who broke his ankle?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's so funny. I don't feel like he would because he came back, he got another chance.

[Jackie Oshry]

Nobody, like, ruined his sin. Like, ruin the mo. Like, he had big things planned for this stage of his life. And, like, that guy in one fell swoop, like, and. And I'm sure Aaron sees the bright side now is all meant to happen, but, like, if I were Aaron, I would fucking hate that person.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's so funny. When you get injured, especially if it's not, do you blame the person who was it not?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. But, like, if it's not clean, I would. Serious. I wonder if they have. Men don't, like, hold as much, like, grudges. No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like Jason street from Friday Night Lights, Like, Yeah. He ended up with a lot of resentment towards the person who injured him because he became paralyzed. But when you're in the sport and getting injured, it's just sort of like a rite of passage. It happens a lot. You're out for a couple of games, you're out for a season. I don't know. If you take umbrage with, like, every person who injures you, I think that's like, a toxic mentality.

[Jackie Oshry]

Big one.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I. I feel like I would be mad. Would you be mad?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, like, it's circumstantial. Like, if I'm tomorrow Hamlin, like, yeah, I'm mad at the guy who, like, tackled me and put me into cardiac arrest. Like, it's. It's different, varying degrees. I feel like a torn Achilles is kind of, like, expected when you're 40 and in the NFL.

[Jackie Oshry]

So, of course, cardiac arrest would be, like, the highest up there.

[Claudia Oshry]

With Jason street being paralyzed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. However, I think, like, Achilles tear. So say that's 10 out of 10. Jason DeMar.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would say Achilles is like a seven.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. That's pretty high.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. But it's not out of the ordinary. It is out of the ordinary to go into cardiac arrest on the field.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not out of the ordinary, but it's like.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's one of the worst injury. It's what you're signing up for?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I feel like it's, like, worse than acl.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I think it's. It's acl. You think it's up there? Yeah. And so I think if Aaron like, walks around with this chip on his shoulder, mad at the guy who injured him. Like, that's a toxic trait of Aaron's because I don't think it's warranted. I think when you get into sports, like, you understand you're gonna get injured and you can't be mad at every person who injures you unless you go into cardiac arrest or are paralyzed.

[Jackie Oshry]

I would include Achilles and ACL in that as well. Oh, I think that requires, like, yeah, serious surgery.

[Claudia Oshry]

And, like, no surgery is, like, so classic. Like, everybody gets surgery when they're athletes. I disagree.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wow, that's big of uturity. If anybody knows any football players, like, please sound off in the comments. Do they hold grudges?

[Claudia Oshry]

By the way, I know football players.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Do they hold grudges?

[Claudia Oshry]

Should I ask Kyle, use check.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, yeah, say hypothetically. And I feel like it would have to be like a non, clean, non clean.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kyle, comma, as a football player, I have a question for you, period. I'm doing research for a podcast episode, period. When you get injured, comma, do you hold any resentment or anger towards the person who is responsible for your injury? Question mark. Like the person on the other team who tackled you and ended up breaking your ankle, question mark. Is this a dumb question?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's just like, if he hasn't experienced that, maybe he doesn't know. Has he had, like, almost a career ending injury?

[Claudia Oshry]

Can you Google it? I don't want to be stupid, like, and ask him a question that, like, is like, a big part of his career and I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Okay, Kyle, use check injuries. A finger, knee.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you hate them, question mark. Or you just understand it's par for the course in this line of work.

[Jackie Oshry]

He suffered knee injuries. He missed time in 20. He had like, standard, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, I feel like he probably has a healthy outlook. Okay, I'm asking, but let me read it one more time because I'm actually embarrassed of this question. Kyle. Okay, as a football player, I have a question for you. Does that make it sound like I'm a football player? I'm just gonna say, Kyle, I have a question for you. Obviously he's a football player. He knows that. I don't need to tell him I'm doing research for a podcast episode. Not me, not me. Acting like I'm like, humorous episode. That's how I'm actively recording. When you get injured, do you hold any resentment or anger towards a person who is responsible for your injury?

[Jackie Oshry]

When you get a serious injury, when.

[Claudia Oshry]

You get When a player get injured.

[Jackie Oshry]

When a player. Because if he has, like, when a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Player gets seriously injured.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you hold any resentment or anger towards the person who is responsible for your injury? Like the person on the other team who tackled you and ended up breaking your ankle, Question mark. Do you hate them or you just understand that it's par for the course in this line of work? I think it's bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, and what if it wasn't a clean hit? Does that change things?

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like there's not really room for nuance in this already long text message. Like, I kind of just want to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Send orange, but he's on west coast fire.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie fired. Well, it's off season. I don't think he's on the west Coast. Oh, fire it off. Or delete the whole thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Claudia, fire it off. Like, if you can't, like, use friendship with him to learn critical information, then.

[Claudia Oshry]

What am I doing here?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And plus, you want to know more about your friend.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, that's a good question.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think so.

[Claudia Oshry]

And people like, people in the comments be like, my husband plays in an intramural flag football league. And he said, we're not talking about that.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, we're talking about the pros. This is your career. And like, yeah, career ending you have. You can't play for the season. Like, I want to know. So Travie is back in the big game next season. We'll see you rocking the stage at Arrowhead.

[Claudia Oshry]

Precisely.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? Christina hall is expressing some regret over not signing a prenup with her third husband, Josh. So, Christina Hall. So this is a confluence of our favorite things. Christina Tarik, El Moussa, hack Heather.

[Claudia Oshry]

And also, is she going by Christina hall right now? Because I didn't know. Yeah, because I didn't know who you were talking about. She is to me now, she's Christina Hack.

[Jackie Oshry]

El Moussa and Stad Paul Hall. Christina hall regrets not signing a prenup with her estranged husband, Josh Hall. The HGTV star spoke candidly about her third divorce during a conversation with her friend Cassie in Wednesday's episode of the Flip Off. Like, of course, the Flip Up. Making news.

[Claudia Oshry]

Always making news again.

[Jackie Oshry]

She said, oh, my God, it's crazy. He wants to retire off of me. Honestly, if I would have really understood the repercussions of all of this, I would have gotten a prenup or I never would have married him.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like one of the benefits of being married so many times is that you do understand the repercussions I'm shocked to learn that, A, she didn't sign a prenup, and B, she's, like, regretting and wishing she did.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. She said that he's tried to steal some of her assets, including ATVs and quad bikes from her home in Tennessee. She said, it's so, so confusing for me why someone would want to do that to me, especially someone that didn't have to work for a few years. She alleged that he's taking advantage of her by making asinine settlement settlement offers that would result in her paying him more money. She said, it's exhausting. I just can't wait for it to be done. But I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. So. So. And then also, like, I hate to.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kick someone when they're down, but Christine, Christina should know better.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, true. But also. But you don't feel strongly about man leeching off of woman.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I do. I do. I'm holding space for two truths. Like, he. He gives Kelly Clarkson's ex husband energy. Like, was looking for a wealthy woman to leech off of, and even in divorce is still trying to milk her dry. At least that man had kids with Kelly, so he had, like, a little bit of a leg to stand on. This guy has, like, seriously no grounds, and he's like a grifter. So I'm holding space for that. And there's also just something icky about, like, a man who wants to, like, take money from a woman, get a job, but also, like, I'm kind of Tisk Tisking at Christina Haack. Like, yeah. The whole joke of the seven husbands of Christina hall is like, she's had. Had a million marriages and she's gonna have a million more. And we love that for her. She's a hopeless romantic, but you are supposed to learn something from every.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, you should have. So her first boilerplate prenups in your desk.

[Claudia Oshry]

First marriage was Tarik, and obviously they split things 50. 50. But that was, like, the most. That was where they built their business together. They had kids together. So them splitting everything in half was completely fair.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Then was she ever married to Anstead or.

[Jackie Oshry]

They were, like, engaged and married from 2018 to 2021.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I feel like he has his own career, she had her own career, and they were, like, happy to, like, come in and leave with what they came in with. Like, it would have been too messy to start poking at each other's businesses.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So perhaps this is the first time she's been with A man who's not as well or wealthier than her. And she hadn't learned this lesson yet that this can happen.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Right. Because she kind of got lucky in the last two.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So when you think about it like that, it makes sense. Like, this is almost like it's not like it's happened twice to her. Like it's her first time. And now going Forward with Christopher LaRocca. Oh, right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Or just dating.

[Jackie Oshry]

They are dating. I bet he's a businessman. So maybe she doesn't want to prenup. Maybe she wants some of that LaRocca fortune.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. She's going from dating somebody with less money than her to now dating somebody with much more money than her. Hopefully. If his business is as booming as we thought. Think it might be.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it will be big.

[Claudia Oshry]

Huge.

[Jackie Oshry]

Christina's got her finger on the pulse of that stuff. Except for Josh.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm just checking to see if Kyle texts me. I'm, like, feeling embarrassed. Oh, I have a text.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I think it's a great text. Like, wanting to.

[Claudia Oshry]

He said, hey, Claudia, That's a great question. There's no resentment unless there's like, a cheap shot outside of the rules, like a helmet to helmet hit or a hit after the whistle. So you're right. But that's speaking for me. But I think the vast majority would agree. Extremely helpful.

[Jackie Oshry]

Could you ask him, like, on the record, do you think to let him know it's on the record that you're going to share his answer?

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, helpful. And Kristen said. Because I put in a group chat with Kristen, she said, that's actually an amazing question. Okay, helpful. Thank you. Another question.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you think Aaron Rodgers holds a grudge against the guy who broke his heel?

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you think Aaron Rodgers holds a grudge against the guy who broke his heel? The guy who broke his Achilles heel?

[Jackie Oshry]

You could say we're recording live. Like, we're currently recording.

[Claudia Oshry]

You don't have to answer. Period.

[Jackie Oshry]

We are currently recording.

[Claudia Oshry]

Period. We are currently recording.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm excited.

[Claudia Oshry]

You got to give people, like, a heads up. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not everyone's Ben and knows that everything that you text him is fodder for the show.

[Claudia Oshry]

So true.

[Jackie Oshry]

How is Ben?

[Claudia Oshry]

Why? What'd you hear?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, nothing. I just, like, you haven't talked about him in, like, a day.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's because it's been a hard week for us. It's been 50 degrees in New York and Ben has been, like, golfing in the middle of February. It's been hard.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sorry to hear that. Did you see the reel that I did? You didn't watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

You are sending. I watched the entire thing. You are sending me reels. Propaganda. At first, Jackie sent me this reel, and I almost turned it off because it was this girl being like, my husband golfs.

[Jackie Oshry]

He loves to go. It makes him so happy. We have three kids, and I let.

[Claudia Oshry]

Him do it every single weekend. And here's why. And I was like, oh, this is a joke, obviously. But then she was saying, like, no, on the days that he golfs, like, he has to wake up early, take the kids to breakfast, spend the entire day with them, put them down for a nap, do all the work, and then go. Once they're napping, then go golf for, like, four or five hours while they nap for two, and then I have to do the rest three hours. But he did, you know, everything up until then.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I had all that time to myself. And then he'll pick up dinner on the way home from golf.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right? So basically, like, it was her life hack being like, I don't take care of my kids all Saturday, but my husband gets to golf. I got it. I thought it was propaganda because she is in a unique situation. The woman in the real. Because her husband golfs for four hours. My husband has never golfed for four hours in his life. He makes it a whole day. They go to the spa, the locker room, they have lunch, they go to the range, they have cocktails. Like, it's a whole. Like, he loves golf, but he loves the whole environment. Going in and out for a couple of holes. That doesn't do it for him.

[Jackie Oshry]

You couldn't her husband compromise with him and say, like, you can golf today, but, like, just 18 holes, period. Like, no spa, no Gucci's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I can. But then that's not, like, what the lady in the reels was saying. It makes him so happy.

[Jackie Oshry]

No spot.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just know she had a gun to her head and, like, he was standing behind the camera with a gun. Like, I. Like I didn't like it. Don't. Don't send me that propaganda. I didn't like it at all.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe it's because you guys also live far from the golf course. So all the driving, I thought she. Okay, she figured it out.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kyle use check. Said he would guess that Aaron Rodgers doesn't have any resentment. It was a pretty routine tackle.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, there we go. Thank you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Extraordinarily helpful, comma, can. Thank you guys enough, period.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just feel like these are the questions Pat McAfee should be asking to Aaron Directly. Maybe he does and I missed it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I mean, it's amazing what you can miss when you don't watch someone's show ever.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just feel like if Aaron said, like, I hate that guy, it'd be headline news.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, yeah, Aaron. If he did that, we should have known, because if Aaron did hate the guy who tackled him, he would have given him a nickname and started hating him going on Pat McAfee, like, dragging him and his family. So we should have known because we didn't hear any of that, that he was probably cool with it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just want to know who it was.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm so glad Kyle and Kristen thought that was, like, not a dumb question. I was, like, actually feeling major regret and embarrassment.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I actually feel like it's a very insightful, like, you want to know the emotions.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of your friends.

[Claudia Oshry]

Fun fact. Kyle, you check went to Harvard. Is that crazy?

[Jackie Oshry]

I knew that from you. From my fun. Yeah, from the fact. Queen.

[Claudia Oshry]

You call me fat. I heard fat.

[Jackie Oshry]

I said fact.

[Claudia Oshry]

I posted a picture today on my Instagram story of, like, you and I looking cute to promote the fact that our new theme song is available to stream on music streaming platforms. And I got, like, a lot of responses from people like, oh, my God, Slay jawline. Oh, my God, you were so thin. Actually, I. I've seen people, like, make tik toks and social media posts about things you should never say to a pregnant women. And I'm like, nobody says that. They do.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was multiple. And maybe people thought it was, like, a recent photo and they're congratulating me on looking good recently, but it was clearly an old photo.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, well, or maybe, like, that's what they think that you're. That you look like and, like, you do look like that. You don't look so dissimilar.

[Claudia Oshry]

I really do. It's fine. You don't have to. Like, I'm on camera every day. Like, I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm. I'm trying to hold space for, like, your toxic mentality with this, because I'm sure I was the same, like, when I was first pregnant.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't remember you talking about it a lot, but you, like, you did feel this way, but you weren't always talking about it. But were you thinking about it all the time? Because I think about it pretty much every minute of every day.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe.

[Claudia Oshry]

Cool.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe. Yeah. But over time, like, it's just. You'll change your point of view about it. So I'm just trying to listen and learn and not judge.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love that. And we don't judge.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even though I have a lot of things I want to say to you.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Our next story is some more kids programming news. Big yesterday. Big Spidey.

[Claudia Oshry]

SpongeBob is pregnant. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

SpongeBob is pregnant. No. Spidey and his Amazing Friends has been renewed for season five at Disney Junior after a big ratings win. Don't you feel like Spidey and his Amazing Friends is, like, taking over? I feel like a kid's show hasn't been popular in so long.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, literally, I never hear of it outside of you and your family. I leave your house and I leave the Spidey verse. I'm just curious. And I'm not complaining at all because, like, you do an amazing job. But are we, like, now a kids programming update? Like, is this, like, a new category we're covering?

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I'm interested.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Peppa pig nurseries.

[Jackie Oshry]

First 30 minutes. We popped off with Peppa Pig yesterday, like, one of our most popular clips. Like, maybe we just need to go where the wind takes us. Turdy.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm not complaining at all. And I understood pep. I understood this. This one, like, a little bit less. But again, it maybe just is not my sphere.

[Jackie Oshry]

You want to hear, like, details about Gene Hackman's wife being mummified? Because that was the other option.

[Claudia Oshry]

Got it. Okay. So all you had to say was that, like, this is what we were.

[Jackie Oshry]

Left with two stories up. I was going to ask you which one you prefer, but then I'm like, Like, I don't want to gamify the mummification.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm never going to tell you how to do your job. I was just asking because we haven't had, like, an offline conversation.

[Jackie Oshry]

People like it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Listen, I happen to think Spider verse is a piece of. I hate Spidey. I hate his Amazing Friends. I hate Ghost Spider. The only one I don't hate is Tracy. I hate the music associated with this show. I hate the books associated with this show music. Because when I'M at your house. Like, I, I, you know, actually, do you want to know why?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I just asked.

[Claudia Oshry]

I associate it with my first trimester, like, being nauseous.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're like, when I was at your house, on repeat, on my Sonos and.

[Claudia Oshry]

Your kids, like, let's read the Sandman. Let's read the Sandman. And I just think I. I automatically feel nauseous. That's why I'm glad I got down to the bottom of. Reminds me of a time where I felt like crap and I was, like, taking naps and feeling a verse to. And then we went to the Aerostore and I felt so sick. Like, Like I. I'm associating that negative time with that one book in particular in the Spidey universe. In total.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Go, Webs, go.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, please. Like, I actually just felt a chunk of food rise in my throat. Like, that's such a shame, because I.

[Jackie Oshry]

Feel like Spidey could be something that's, like, big in your house one day. Especially because of the soundtrack. And, like, Ben will love as much as you can love a kid's soundtrack. Like, Ben will love Spidey.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe I'll get over it by then. I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, well, if I known that, then at end, like, I'd known your distaste for Spidey and his amazing friends, I maybe would.

[Claudia Oshry]

They're not amazing either. That's the thing. And Aunt May, who's, like, in charge of, like, these three kids, she's never around. Yeah, she's like, definitely. Somebody needs to call cps. She's always leaving these really young kids out on their own in, like, really dangerous cities with dangerous criminals like the Goblin.

[Jackie Oshry]

The criminals, like, constantly want to exterminate Spidey and his friends and, like, the entire town. And then they always thwart them and then just let them off the hook, like, there's no real justice. That's what bothers.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where's Crime and Punishment?

[Jackie Oshry]

Why are you giving them another chance to rob the bank in the hot dog stand? To get away, put them behind bars, call it a day, and live in peace.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's an important, like, lesson for kids to learn. Like, there are repercussions for your actions, but not for the Sandman, not for the Green Goblin. They just get away and they get to do bad things again.

[Jackie Oshry]

Doc Ock, like, she's a bitch.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm not familiar with Doc Ock, and I'm so glad. Please don't tell me anything more about her.

[Jackie Oshry]

You wouldn't like her but anyways, what's actually really remarkable about Spidey and his amazing friends? Like, I feel like it's like a rebooted version of Spider man, like, for the children. And I have not seen, like, a reboot have this much success. Like, it's crushing it. It's really crushing it. Five seasons.

[Claudia Oshry]

A Walk to Remember is being rebooted. That could top Spidey.

[Jackie Oshry]

It could.

[Claudia Oshry]

Although I don't know how you reboot like a movie. You're just. You're just making it again.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're gonna run it back. And Mandy Moore is still an actress and could still be Jamie, and I.

[Claudia Oshry]

Feel like they're gonna make it, like, very modern. Like, instead of having cancer, she's gonna have, like, Lyme's disease or something, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, no. Okay. Like, okay. I. I wouldn't like that change.

[Claudia Oshry]

I often think about that line from. I mean, I think a lot about A Walk to Remember, but. But he was like the wind. I could. Couldn't see him.

[Jackie Oshry]

Her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually, he's talking about her after she died. Her love is like the wind. I can't see it, but I can feel it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I hope that if. When they do reimagine it, like, it's to a T. Like, I feel like I could see them changing some of the themes because it's obviously, like, very pro religion.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, is it because her dad's a pastor and, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, and then.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then he ends up finding Jesus.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, he's with his Bible and he's been found.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, they need to leave it. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I could see them, like, doing away with that, and instead he's, like, manifesting his dream. Like, stop it.

[Claudia Oshry]

They're replacing Jesus with manifestation. For sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

Keep the Bible in A Walk to Remember.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, who's the heart? Like the young heartthrob. Who's the. Shane. That's his name. Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like I know three young actors. Of course. Noah Centennial comes to mind. Jacob Elordi.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait, Jackie, it's actually a good call. Noah Centennial. Like, the bad boy turned priest.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jacob Elordi and Austin.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's not right for it. No, they're not right for it. You need someone who's. Because they're high schoolers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait, I really like Noah Centennial. And then who's the. Who's the. Mandy Moore. She has to sing and she has to be, like, this young. Okay. By the way, that's a really good call. Like, I could see it. She obviously has acting history. She sings par. She would be. And then.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she's, like, a nice voice for, like, a girl who just, like, gets on stage and it's like, no, I'm afraid.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It's giving her character in High School Musical.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then who is, like, the really strict dad priest?

[Jackie Oshry]

Dennis Quaid. Dennis Quaid to be Olivia Rodrigo's dad.

[Claudia Oshry]

I was gonna say he's too old to have a. A daughter in high school. Should it be Mason Disick?

[Jackie Oshry]

Should it be who?

[Claudia Oshry]

What? How old are you when you have a daughter in high school? You're, like, 40.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kind of like. Kind of like the dad a little bit from White Lotus.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jason Street.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, Scott Porter. Yeah. Wait. We just absolutely crushed this. And that's, like, the only other character. Right? Like, she has the friends, like, the mean group of friends, but I don't need to.

[Jackie Oshry]

That, like. Yeah. That mean girl who, like, she stole, like, Shane from.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Just. That could be, like, a regular girl.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait. And wait. Joshua Bassett has to be.

[Jackie Oshry]

He could be. He could be so down.

[Claudia Oshry]

This movie sounds amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Always remember she would kill it.

[Claudia Oshry]

The late afternoon. Yeah. Like, that soundtrack. That movie Only Hope.

[Jackie Oshry]

Only Hope, like, actually changed our DNA cells.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I don't. I. I know the movie was really popular, and I know the song was really popular, too, but I don't think that particular song had as much of an impact on our generation as it did on us specifically. Like, we loved that song.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it. What I've learned, you know, we've. A lot of us have had the same experiences. Like, I think a lot of people had that experience with that song, like, in a good way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, that's good.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it was hard to hear that song and, like, not be changed.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I lay my head back. The first time I saw that movie, I was choking on my own sobs. Like, I was so upset. Yeah. And that opening scene with that kid.

[Jackie Oshry]

Water tower.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Where he, like, hits a pipe. Oh, my God. Just devastating.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's a lot of big themes, a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Lot of big reboot news, Essentially, a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Lot of big reboot news. So that's a twofer.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I love that. We'll add it to the. To the story.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? It's a little fashion news. A new trend has emerged at Milan Fashion Week, and we actually called this one.

[Claudia Oshry]

We did.

[Jackie Oshry]

Models are bearing their butt cracks at Milan Fashion Week, and style gurus are outraged, saying, I do not want to live in that world. Low rise jeans are back and there's no buts about it. At Milan Fashion Week, Diesel debuted its Fall Winter 2025 collection featuring egregiously low denim cut in which models bared their butt cracks. So. So there's a stream of models walking down the Runway in low rise jeans, plus crack.

[Claudia Oshry]

And this just proves to you that butt cracks are ugly because models are supposed to have, like, the most beautiful of everything, and even their butt cracks are ugly sometimes. It's like, yeah, it's kind of a crazy look, but it looks good on a model. You know, it's not gonna look good on a regular person who has, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Pretty much every butt crack.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And so it doesn't even look good on models. This doesn't bode well. The only time I've ever enjoyed seeing crack, and I didn't even see C crack is when Hailey Bieber wore, like, that really low dress, but it was like a fake, and they put, like, a diamond thong in it that was really parchy. But we didn't see her butt crack. So my stand. My point stands. Butt cracks are not attractive. Even of the elite fashion European. Your butt cracks are just as ugly as mine. It makes me feel good that I don't have, like, a particularly ugly butt crack. I kind of have, like a big crack.

[Jackie Oshry]

In what sense? Tall, Long, Deep. Oh, well, that. That is not visible to the eye.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, it kind of. It's something you need to feel to believe.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Which obviously I have.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Show it off.

[Claudia Oshry]

Pop off. Crack.

[Jackie Oshry]

Pop off. Cracked. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I feel like the fashion community, like, they're always trying to, like, push boundaries, and it's. They do, like, radical things, and it's always applauded as, like, art or whatever. And I kind of love that this happened. And the fashion editors and the people at large are not down for it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I really feel like they. They're running out of bits to show, you know, like, because pretty much people walk around naked. But they do wear, Right? Not anymore. Here's right.

[Claudia Oshry]

What's. What's next? Labia Lava? Gina Plasti.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but then not everyone has that. So what's next? Dong.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is that. Is that penis?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

What's next? Dong. Like, you seriously live on a different planet. Dong. And I think you're getting confused because I think you're thinking of schlong.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think I'm thinking of.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're thinking of, like, dick and schlong dog.

[Jackie Oshry]

Dong. Meaning.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is it there? No.

[Jackie Oshry]

The deep resonant sound of a large bell. No. Dong. Definition from Merriam Webster.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. I Guess it would be an urban dictionary.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wait, but Miriam said dick, penis, dong. Usually vulgar. Penis. Dong. Penis is here. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think you meant schlong, because at the end, I think you're just getting lucky.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no. Schlong is like a different energy. Do you know what I mean?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I actually like the energy that schlong emits. It's very, like. Like schlong.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. It's, like schlongy. But I actually like the energy of dong.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Right. I'm thinking of. Of course. Like, a bell.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right, Everyone. Now I just. I need to know if there are other people who think you should just, like, take what in dog?

[Claudia Oshry]

I think you should take the W and just run with it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Etymology online says penis.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. They didn't mince words over there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Penis. 1891. Slang of unknown origin, perhaps suggested by dingus and other names for unnamable things.

[Claudia Oshry]

Shall we dive into the Southern charm recap, where you just base pretty much tell me everything that happens? I also can't believe last week you did not bring up the scene, because it came up for me all over social media. And, like, now I'm obsessed with the scene where Shep has, like, the actual balls to recite to Austin the text message he wrote to Sienna. Is that her name? Yeah. And, like, the pure cringe of that moment, like, the. The verbal diarrhea. And then, like, Austin's reaction. It was so funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

Claudia. He recites it to everyone. Last night, he recited it to Molly, like, the girl that he likes him. Everyone knows him, and he knows that she likes him. That text, your. If I hear freckled lips one more time. If I hear freckled lips one more time, I'm gonna have to turn this off. But last night was, like, really bad for Shep and Sienna's relationship. We're still in the Bahamas. What's going on with Shep and Sienna? Is that, like, he sent the text. He's spiraling. They went out that night after the dinner. She went home early with a stomachache, like, the night before or something, and the boys went gambling. Shep got kicked out of the casino for being too drunk. There were no cameras on at this point. Then when the boys go back to the room, Shep's not there. They're looking for Shep for two hours. They can't find Shep. Shep fell asleep on a pool lounge and then made his way to the room and, like, realized that he had, like, hit rock bottom. That, like, he's literally sleeping on the beach because of this Girl. That's not good. The next morning, he wakes up. They're all going on a boat. Sienna is coming on the boat, and Craig's like, why is she coming on the boat? Like, what? Like, she doesn't like, a good question. Craig even facetimes Paige. So Paige can be on the phone and say she doesn't like you. Like, girl talk. She doesn't like. Like, literally everyone's yelling at Chip. She doesn't like you. And, like, Shep is.

[Claudia Oshry]

But he won't hear a word of it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's like, he will, and he knows that, but he. He's being a little, like, I guess it's, like, sweet, but he's in his 40s, so it's not where it's like, well, I don't care. Like, I. This is how I feel. Like, I love her. Like, I'm gonna fight for. I'm not just gonna, like, you know, pretend like I don't care anymore, because I do care. Like, and he's so. He really just wants her around and on the boat, even if she doesn't want to be there, which is, like, it's very naive and would be sweet in someone else, but not. But this is his first experience with something like this, even though he's 40. Like, it is his first. You know, we all, right. We're all.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, we're all just, like, doing life for the first time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Meanwhile, they walk down to the boat, and she texts. Texts, I'm running late.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm not coming.

[Jackie Oshry]

And he was like, we'll wait. She said, I don't know how long I'm gonna be. I'll meet up with you guys at dinner. So he was like, so she cancels? Yeah, but not even well enough to cancel. Be like, I'm not coming. I'm gonna be too late, like, leading him on. Like, oh, if we wait, then you can come, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Just be a little bit more definitive, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

And then he's gonna stay back. They all go on the boat, and thankfully, he decides. He walks down the plank as they're about to leave, and he gets on the boat, thankfully. Because they had a really nice day, like, at Rose beach with Shep Rose. They were all joking. It's chef speech. Like, so sad how they have to cheer him up.

[Claudia Oshry]

They try so hard.

[Jackie Oshry]

Madison actually had, like, a nice conversation with her because she's a queen and she's benevolent, even though, like, Shep was so nasty to her for so many years when she dated Austin. Like, she's gonna put it aside for A moment.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's easy. It's easy to be a queen when you're so happy and like, in your.

[Jackie Oshry]

Own life while also still holding important grudges. However, like, Shep is not. Not her enemy, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, he's not a problem right now. Like, I don't know who her is, but not him.

[Jackie Oshry]

She, like, was giving him, like, good advice, like, that he deserves to be loved. Like, this is not it. And then, like, she was like, do you really? Because he said, last time I was here with Sienna, we drove past that house and she said she wants me to buy it for her. And it's like a 10 million dollar house. And. And Madison was like, I think maybe, like, you're just not rich enough for her. Like, that might just be it. And he was like, yeah, I think so. Which is so crazy because he. He, like, does have to admit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, and like, he comes from, like, generational wealth, so that was sad. Then JT, JT is spiraling. I think this might be JT's last episode on the show because he finally makes it after, like, missing all of his flights. He comes to a dinner. Him and Craig are fighting. They're actually having, like, a fight that started out, like, strong, and now it's like Craig is misremembering some of, like, there's this big issue where he told the whole group that. That JT called Ms. Patricia A during a conversation, that the entire conversation was filmed and there is no footage of that. Oh, yeah. And then also Craig told Madison that JT was like, insinuating some weird things about JT and Madison, which he was. But now it's like, well, did you use the word affair? He didn't use the word affair. And it's like, who cares about the word affair? He. He was insinuating that, like, the husband called him to make sure nothing was going on. Fun.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's also just annoying in a situation like this. Like, why don't we all sit around, watch the tape and then we can talk about it again? Because, like, spending time remembering is so annoying.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And GT's just like, not a worthy adversary. Meanwhile, like, so I think that he. Then Vanita goes to his room and, like, tries to make out with him, even though he, like, told her he had a girlfriend. So that was, like, really weird. She keeps doing that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yikes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. But I think JT is gonna leave the trip, and I think that's it for him on the show because at some point, he quits the show in the middle of the Show.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think this might be it. The dinner wasn't even bad for him. Shep actually had his back being like. I don't remember JT saying that. Mostly because he's just, like, completely in his own head.

[Claudia Oshry]

Some people can't cut it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, if you couldn't handle that dinner, that was really, like, nothing. This shows up.

[Claudia Oshry]

This isn't the life for you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Beyond that, next week, Shep and Sienna will finally talk. It's like that night after the boat, and, like, he's gonna be like, we were in love three weeks ago. And she was like, no, we weren't. Yeah, it's. It's time to end it. And that's what she missed on Southern Church.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thanks so much for keeping me up. I literally, like, I watched the show. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I also wanted to mention some rumors because people are saying I saw. I don't know if there's any truth to this that, like, Craig and Sally have been spotted together.

[Claudia Oshry]

And she was on Watch what happens live, asked about it because they were spotted out at Nobu, and she was like, like, yeah, we went to Nobu, but his friend was there, his assistant was there. Like, it wasn't the two of us. She didn't say it wasn't a date, though. She just said we weren't alone. Phone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Like, I feel like there's something to note about that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Something noteworthy for sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I just want to say, like, my initial reaction, I'm not like, oh, my God, Chip. They have to be together. Like, but I feel like I could maybe get there. I just, like, don't know Sally well enough. But, like, also, maybe it's just, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

One of the things you need to do to, like, get over your ex.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I just want to say, like, my initial reaction is not ship. It's not an anti. But it's not like if Craig was stepping out with Rachel Kirkonnell.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even though Sally seems fab and she changed her hair color in the off season and it really suits her. She's totally a winter.

[Claudia Oshry]

And we're totally due for Queenie. And we need the week. Our final segment of the week where Jackie and I like to just sort of take a look at the week at a glance, give out two awards. Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week. They're pretty self explanatory. Did you act like a queenie this week, and did you act like a weenie this week? If you did, you might find yourself here on the toast at the end of Friday's episode as a Queenie of the week. So for Queenie, I think it's pretty obvious. I think we could say on the count of three who our queen is.

[Jackie Oshry]

One, two.

[Claudia Oshry]

Two, three, three.

[Jackie Oshry]

Becca.

[Claudia Oshry]

Becca. Yeah, the toaster who wrote and won our theme song competition series. I feel like her work was finally put on display this week. Our vocal abilities, obviously were kind of like sub queenies, but she really did exactly what we were looking for. People are loving it, and we wouldn't have had this amazing week without Becca.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so true. Like, the theme song is very Queenie. Like, is a nominee. But then when you really boil it down, like, it's Becca who wrote who's responsible with Becca is the queenie.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm glad we agree. I think we might agree on Weenie to my weenie of the Week, and I think that people are going to be shocked. But listen, I am, like, I am woman enough to admit, like, having four DUIs is definitely a not. We'll get you nominated for weenie of the Week. Karen Huger. I'm glad she's paying the price, but I also don't think I knew that she had four. Like, I didn't even know that this wasn't her first. So if she had just, like, gotten a dui, would she have been my weenie of the Week? Maybe not, but that's because she's on that list. But with her fourth, that's really uncool. Like, I'm woman enough to say that.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought about Karen Huger, and just the last minute, one came to me as I'm looking through former weenies. And actually, my weenie of the week is going to be Sutton Strack for literally, like, the really lowest form of insult on real houses of Beverly Hills. Like, it's giving. I like that weenie behavior.

[Claudia Oshry]

I like that a lot.

[Jackie Oshry]

So Real Housewives two for two on the weenies. I need to find my pen and write this down or else. Like, we're gonna forget.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're kind of lost without it.

[Jackie Oshry]

We will be lost in the anals of history.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, we will.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I've been looking for.

[Claudia Oshry]

We lost. We'll be lost in the butt cracks.

[Jackie Oshry]

I wonder what else is lost in the cracks of these chairs.

[Claudia Oshry]

This chair is very deep. I do wonder what. What is inside of them. Correct. And on that note, thank you so much for a party week. And thank you so much for listening to the toast of Milani morning show, where we Deliver the Fast5 stories. You need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We are also available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, itunes, Stitcher Public Radio. I hear everybody castbox all the places where we listen to podcast. Find us at Toast. Leave a five star review about a beautiful, about a stunning and of course about how wickedly talented we are. Have an amazing weekend and we will see you on Monday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Love ya. Bye.