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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the sto. Oh, my God. It was to la. Forgot how to speak. Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Thursday. And it's kind of a different feeling type of Thursday, because I love LA at the great. As the great shots of sunset once said. That's right. Turdy Wood turning to Hollywood starts today.
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I like Turdy Wood.
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Yeah, me too. I couldn't, like, figure out exactly how to word it, but we're working on it.
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Okay, well, welcome to Turdiwood. Claudia is live from la, which is so exciting for me because I love the elk of an Angelian.
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And.
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And I really do hope that you get into the spirit of things. I think you'll, like, reach untapped potential as an LA creator and podcaster. Look at you in the Dear Media Studios. Do you feel different already? Do you feel like talking about, like, wellness and job?
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Well, I, I job, my love pretty much every day, so you really don't need to worry about that being, like, a coastal thing. I job, my love. And I love my job.
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You know, I do know how it's like. Do.
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Do you feel like you job, your love more than you love your job, or you love your job more than you job your love?
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These are some big questions. Like, now we're getting to the big questions, but how does it feel to be in the Dear Media headquarters? Like, we're not really, like, in office swirlies. You know, we're kind of the remote workers with our own studio.
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So how does it.
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What's it like over there?
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I was saying to Daniel here, who's in the. Literally in this room with me, I was saying, like, you know, I don't usually, like, do this with people, you know, especially, like, people I'm just meeting. I never do. And I do feel like, I'm not gonna lie, like, extremely awkward. Like, I feel awkward because of Daniel. So, like, if I'm being weird today, like, it's Daniel's fault. There's just, like, somebody right here, you know, how could I talk about, like, my period? Like, Daniel's here.
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Unfortunately, she can't talk about her period.
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The good news is, you guys, I. I don't have my period. You would know that because I shared the last time I did just to.
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Circle back on that period and put a Dot at the end of the sentence. How was the whole period like, overall? What? How was the experience?
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Oh, my God. My first period after being pregnant was insane. Ready?
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What's that?
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What's that from, like, my. My first period. It's from friends. Chapter one. My first period title obsessed.
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Write it down.
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So I'm glad you asked because, yes, I did just have my first period after being pregnant and it was a bloodbath. Like, oh, Jackie. But let me tell you, it lasted. Oh, no. One day, Daniel, it was. What will Daniel think? It was a 24. It was a 24. I just want to let you know, Daniel's enjoying immensely. He's like, literally, he's giggling so hard.
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Oh, I love that.
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And I could tell Daniel has swirly energy. Energy. I'm actually really not worried. Like, I don't feel weird at all.
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I'm sure Daniel has seen and heard, like, everything, because really, it's true. Dear Media has so many fabulous podcasts, so many different topics, genres like women's health. They're really like a strong voice for women. Like, he's heard it.
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It's true. Yeah, it's true. So having said that, it was a 24 hour bloodbath and it. That 24 hours happened to fall on Yom Kippur. It was insane. And I wore a white suit.
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Maybe that's why you. You fainted. You lost too much blood.
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Oh, my God. I needed a blood transfusion. Yeah. And I wore a white skirt to synagogue on the day that I was like, literally fighting for my life menstrually.
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I didn't get the all white memo for Yom Kippur. I don't know how I missed it.
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But there is no memo.
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Everyone at school was wearing white. No. And in hindsight, like, yeah, that is like the color for like a Tony.
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Right?
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Thankfully, I had a white cardigan, but I felt so, like, improperly dressed.
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So I want to tell you guys about my journey to Los Angeles is my first flight with Ruby. And of course, my king was amazing. Like, I seriously have no complaints. I actually could not have asked for him to be, like, better.
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Yeah.
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But it was not without you.
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Of course. You doubted him, like, thinking like, oh, can we do this? Can we do that?
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I didn't doubt him, but let me tell you, I was prepared. I brought a cooler of milk. 20 ounces of milk, which we used, by the way. I had my two. I. My tits out the whole flight. Like, seriously, I did not care. Tits out for the boys.
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For the boys. The one.
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Just one yeah, there was a little bit of excitement on the plane because Andy Cohen was on my flight. So actually, me and Ben were in the lounge, and he walked by. I recognized him immediately. Immediately. Let me tell you. He has a mop of hair. I've never seen, like, someone have so much hair. It's just, like, thick. That was the first thing I noticed. And Ben, of course, you know, had to send to himself. And he was like, wait. Like, I should tell him, like, that I'm the guy. Like, the spritz guy. Like, Craig's business partner.
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It's a pretty decent connection, considering you can't go up to him and tell him about the toast. Because if he.
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No to searches. Have you ever heard if you ever heard.
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Yeah, no, not good.
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So I. You know, Ben is, like, really not shy. And. And I was like, you know what? I actually do think Andy, like, would find that interesting. Right. Although I don't know if Andy's, like, reputation is, like, he's, like, overly gracious to, like, fans and stuff. Like, I don't think he likes being approached. But I said, you know what, Ben, do it. Like, Ben's such an affable guy. I think Andy would appreciate this fun fact about who you are. And I saw Ben go over to Andy in the lounge. I heard the conversation. Like, I don't really think Andy, but Ben was, like, so sweet. And he was like, it was just. It was fine, you know, like, it was fine.
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Color me shot dead.
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But then we get on the plane. I had a feeling Andy was on my flight. Like, he was also going to la. And then, yes, lo and behold, he was sitting right in front of Ben. And I. I have read all of Andy's books, and so he's always traveling, and he's always talking about how on his planes, he, like, watches all these episodes of Housewives upcoming, gives notes to the editors. I'm like, there's literally no way he does that. Like, watches every episode and, like, takes notes on, like, what needs to be edited out, what he likes, what he doesn't like. Let me tell you, I walked past his computer, like, five times. He was watching new episodes. Well, I don't know if they were new, but they looked like they hadn't been aired yet of OC And Salt Lake City. And he was also jotting down notes. I was being such a little rat, like, snooting, but let me tell you, he was actually doing it. Wow.
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Walking the walk, talking the talk. Exactly.
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And then. And then when we all got up, like, to d. Plane And I was right behind him with Ruby in the stroller. He was like, wow, your baby was so good. I was so proud. I was like, yeah. He was like. He literally make a peep. Like, wow, Such a good baby. Like, kind of made, like, a lot of comments about it. And I was like, yeah, yeah, that's my baby. Yeah.
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Who would have thought between, like, you and your pop culture podcast and Ben and his Bravo connection, like, Annie was only interested in food.
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Listen, we are parents. And he's a parent, too. Like, he gets it.
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He is.
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Now, that's not the story. Actually, I wanted to tell you because I've had, like, my first, like, Los Angeles experience. Experience. And because this trip to la, like, is fueled by the good guys, I am going to phrase it in a. What are you nuts? Okay.
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Okay.
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Because I had a what are you nuts? Moment this morning. We don't have a car yet. Ben is actually going to pick it up right now. So I just Uber to the studio. Okay. And, you know, there's a bunch of different options on Uber, and they have, like, different ones in different cities. Like, in New York, you can get Uber X, Uber Black, and Uber Premium. Like, that's really it. But other places, they have, like, Uber comfort. There was an option for me to work today. Uber, woman driver. And, like, no, I actually have, like, a lot of people relying on me to get to work safely because I don't put out this podcast. Like, millions of Americans are affected. Like, I can't take such a risk with a woman driver. I'm like, this is so California.
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Like, that's woman driver crazy.
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I know I can't. And to be clear, if I get, like, a woman, if it was literally called Uber woman, if I get a female driver in an Uber, like, I'm. I'm not, like, thrilled, but I don't cancel. Like, it's fine. It's fine. Like, it's literally not a big deal. Would I go seek it out? Like, probably not.
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Probably not. But there might be the case to be made. Like, I don't know if they're doing it for, like, women's empowerment or, like, you know, closing the pay gap or for, like, safety. Because in other ways, like, yes, maybe actually on the road, you're perhaps not as safe with a female driver, but in the car, you might be.
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Yeah, I guess if I was like, you know, traveling at night alone, and they had that option, I actually might click it. I take it back.
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I. That might be what it's there for.
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Yeah.
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Not just, like, a Performative thing to, like, right women and break the glass ceiling and kill people.
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Yeah. Okay. By the way, you've actually changed my perspective on it. That's actually a really valid reason. And, like, if I had, like, a. A kid taking an Uber, I'd be like, yeah, do the woman. Yeah, you'll get here tomorrow, but it's fine.
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She's gonna read you to filth.
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She's gonna be so nasty.
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But.
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So, yeah, I'm an Angelino. I have so much to do today getting, like, my digs ready. You know, I gotta pick up our car. I gotta find, like, my local spots. But all in all, Turdiwood is off to a good start.
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I'm really happy and excited for you, and I love this change of scenery, this change of turt. I actually did something major yesterday. I talked about a few months ago, how I was a judge. I was selected as a judge of a short story contest that was hosted by the Novelry. It was the biggest contest in literature, but the biggest prize money, a hundred thousand dollars for the winner. All summer, people submitted their short stories. They got records, like, crazy amount of submissions. And they shared the top ones with the judges. And we, the judges panel.
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Jackie's a judge on, like, this really elite thing with other, like. Like huge celebrities as judges.
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Huge celebrities and authors, like, just a.
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Who'S who of the book world, literally. You like, I heard the author of the Camber of the Counselor was on that panel.
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Right. So I was, like, happy to be there amongst colleagues. We met and deliberated yesterday and chose a winner. So I think that will be announced soon, which is really exciting. And everyone can read the story. And it was just. It was fascinating stuff.
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Are you gonna say, like, who else was on the Zoom? Are you allowed?
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Yeah. The judges panel is. That was public information when everything was announced. So first, the whole panel was chaired by Teari Jones, who wrote American Marriage and American Marriage. Massively popular. Julia Quinn was on the panel. Bridgerton. Oh, Jan Martel, Life of PI. Oh, that's a big Carly Fortune.
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Oh, man. Did you say anything about Meghan Markle?
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She didn't say anything about Meghan Markle, actually.
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And whatever happened to that story? I know this happens a lot with books where, like, things get optioned, but I thought, like, Meghan Markle doing that was kind of a good idea.
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And it's probably still in ideation.
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She bought the rights to Carly Fortune's the Big One.
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What was the Summer on the Lake?
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They're all called Lake House, Summer, Lakey, Summer, Leaky, Lakey.
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Who else was there? Emma Roberts, major in the book world. A couple of book fluencers like myself.
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A couple influential voices in the literary space like yourself.
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Yeah, it was really cool. I'm really excited for people to read the winning submission.
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Go Jackie. Go Jackie, go. Go Jackie. Go Jackie, go.
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A so that's what I was up to yesterday. Just judging a literary contest, just being judgmental.
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Wbu.
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Whatever.
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Wbu. Oh, yeah. I was taking my son on a plane.
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I mean, Fugo's Hollywood. There's nothing better.
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I did feel, like, so spoiled. I had so much access to Brian and like, I really feel like I hacked, like, travel. Hacked the whole thing. Shout out to American Airlines for being extremely baby friendly. And it's just so funny how, like, people. I guess it could go either way. But my experience was like, people, when you have a baby, are just so nice to you. Right. They like, let you in. And I guess some people aren't, but, like, for the most part. Except like, of course, it wasn't without its drama. When we got through tsa, they had to like, test my breast milk. Like, stop it. Seriously. They opened up my cooler and I'm like, are you gonna touch it? She was like, no, we just have to like, put this paper. And she like, it's dripping. It was so stupid. So then we had to like, resettle, put our shoes back on, and we go to the lounge. And I'm in the elevator to the lounge. I'm like, ben, do you have my purse? And he was like, no. It's like I was pushing Ruby. You take everything else.
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It's giving Tommy Fury.
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I ran. If you saw me sprinting for my fucking life in JFK Airport, Terminal 8 yesterday. No, you didn't. What kind of a big Chanel one. Like, it literally said, rob me, Chanel. And my wallet sticking right out at the top is filled to the brim. And my wallet was right at the top also. Chanel, seriously, I deserve what comes to me. Like, I'm so such an idiot. Let me say the good people of JFK Airport, it was untouched. It had probably been a total of like four or five minutes. It was left there alone on a bench. Oh, that's in a. In a point of pride. Like in a big.
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But that area is like highly secure actually, for other reasons. Not because of your purse. Like, they have a lot of cameras. If your bag did go missing.
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Yeah.
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Probably track it down.
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Yeah. And the airport is sort of like the self contained thing. You can't like, rob me and Leave?
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Yeah. Well, you could. I get. And then miss your flight came into.
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Right. All for what? A Chanel bag? That could be fake. It's not. But you don't know that.
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Yeah. I hope people have better things to do and want to get to where they're going.
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How are the stories today?
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Good. Lots to, like, just little bits and bobs to update.
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Bits and bobs?
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Bits and bobs. Like, nothing groundbreaking. Actually, there is groundbreaking news, which is that it looks like peace in the Middle east is on the horizon.
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You know what that is? News that breaks ground.
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Call that groundbreaking. And that did happen yesterday.
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I know. I do feel like, over the course of the war, there've been, like, a couple of iterations of things, and, like, I. I will be, like, celebrating when it happens. I'm just, like, a little skeptical only because I have, like, trauma.
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Agreed. This seems to be the big one.
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I know. I know. They say all 48 are coming home.
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Well, not all, because some of the bodies that they kidnapped they probably can't find, but living hostages. They're estimating around 20 living hostages will be returned home this weekend or by Monday. So that's, like, amazing news.
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Yeah, it really is. I'm just so, like, holding my breath. I don't even want to talk about it.
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Yeah.
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It's real, but.
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So it's just funny that I said there was no groundbreaking news when actually there was, like, major news.
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Yeah. News that broke ground.
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Yeah. In a major way. So praying cautiously optimistic.
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Yeah. Anything else before we dive in? I don't have my clock today. You know, I'm not my usual situation. So, like, I don't know. Are we dallying? Are we dillying?
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You know, I feel like we are doing an appropriate amount of dillying and dallying, especially considering, like, this sort of foundation on which the toast is built has shifted a bit. You know, different place, different time. Like, for me, I'm podcasting at noon. Like, I feel like taking a nap.
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Oh, my God. Let me just say, I know half the people who listen are, like, this episode's never coming out. I've never podcasted so early in my life, you guys. I'm fighting for my life over here. Oh, my God.
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I've never podcasted so late.
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It's.
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I'm, like, time to take my makeup off.
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Yeah. That's, like, just the one issue with Turdy Wood. Week or week. I don't even know how long it's gonna be. I don't even have a return flight. That's the One issue is that, like, I'm podcasting so early, and the episodes are coming out so late.
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Yeah. I had the time to, like, make a beautiful breakfast this morning. Tomorrow, I'm actually, like, going on an adventure before the toast. I don't know if that's gonna, like, help. I have had it, like, a whole.
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Day on an adventure.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Where to?
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I'll tell you about it tomorrow after I've had an adventure, and then I'll be able to share, and then maybe, like, that would be great, right?
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It would be good for the podcast to, like, live before.
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To live before, perhaps. Maybe. We'll see. Just switching it up.
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Okay, so. Oh, sorry. Bed is going to kill me. I have something to share, you guys.
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Well, maybe as punishment for the purse.
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Yes. As you guys know, Spritz Society is nominated yet again for USA Best canned Cocktail, and we have now won it, I think, like, three years in a row. And it's kind of annoying because now we, like, have to win every year because it's, like, what? We're in our flop era. So we've won it three years in a row. And so, I'm sorry, you guys have to vote. Voting ends Monday the 13th at midnight. You can vote at least once it. No, most once a day. The link to vote is in the Instagram bio of the Spritz Society. Instagram at Spritz. It's also in the description of today's episode. Please just help us kind of keep our reputation. I would be embarrassed at this point. You don't have to win everything you're nominated for, but, my God, three years in a row. Like, we kind of have a lot to lose now. I almost wish we never won.
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It's a lot of pressure.
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It is.
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That's why we choose not to win awards here at the toast, you know?
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Exactly. It's too stressful.
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It's just better this way. But please, vote for us. Vote for lunch. Vote for L. Without further ado, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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You. Oh, sorry. Not me getting distracted on my phone. I'm so la. Like, okay. I'm so. I'm so right now. Just start. I don't have my clock up, so just start over.
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It's just like Angeline. She's living up to the stereotype of being a slob of working hard.
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Okay, start again. Say it again.
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Okay. Without further ado to do. To do. Here are the past five stories that you need to know and the fast.
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Side stories that you need to know are brought to you by Smart Mouth. And I forgot to tell you guys this story. Ben's been taking these, like, herbs because he takes these herbs when he thinks he's getting sick. They're called, like, Gaia herbs. And I literally turned him in bed not two nights ago. And I said, do you have BO or is that your breath? I could not tell how, like, where the stank was coming from. It was his breath. As you guys know, I am sort of an advocate against bad breath. And that's why smart math has made me like their leading partner, because they know I'm so committed to the cause. So if you're a coffee drinker, a garlic lover, or just someone who never wants to think twice about their breath, Smart Mouth has you covered. It gives you fresh breath, confidence for a night out or on a date, and peace of mind knowing you'll never wake up with morning breath again. Oh, my God. Like, seriously, the mission behind this brand is something I believe in so fiercely. I'm obviously so concerned about my own breath always. Like, if anybody ever said, like, oh, that girl Claudia, she has bad breath, like, I seriously, I just, I would say stop living. But I'm also, like, really kind of hard on other people, specifically my husband, about their breath. And that's why I love the smart math products, because they're backed by science. The secret is their dual solution, Smart sync technology. As you pour, the two solution solutions activate billions of zinc ions that instantly eliminate bad breath and keep it away all day. So never have bed breath again. Find Smart Mouth at Walgreens, Walmart and Amazon, or visit smartmouth.com toast to snag a special discount on your next smart mouth purchase. That's smart mouth.com/toast. Do not miss out on 24 hour fresh breath. Your mouth will thank you. And if your partner is also taking Gaia herbs, thus resulting in breath that smells like Bo, check out smartmouth.com/toast. Today's episode is also brought to you by Roback. Let's take a second to talk about Roback. They just launched something new, and it's really one of their best drops yet. It's called the Vista Collection. And it's their first crack at leggings, which is so crazy because I didn't realize I wear so much Roback. I wear a lot of, like, their joggers. I wear their, like, athleisure. I didn't realize that they didn't do leggings. And now I know why. They were working on the perfect formula. Because Leggings are so personal for me. I like like leggings that are so high waisted they basically touch your nipples and like really suck you in but they don't like, you know, suffocate you. Their leggings from the Vista collection at Roback are buttery soft. You're going to forget you're even. You even have pants on. They're high waisted, they're supportive, they do not compress, compress and they really hit that rare balance between structured and flexible. Some leggings slide down resulting in like that drop crotch area that like can cause chub rub. It's so horrible. Not Roback. They come in three core colors. These leggings, black flag blue which is like a purpley blue and a really nice soft green. It's perfect for this time of year. It's also perfect if you're a redhead like my sister Jackie. Really compliments she's wearing green today. Really complements the red coloring. We have both been wearing the leggings from Roback nonstop. Perfect to wear at home at the studio walking the dog. Some of us rehomed our dogs taking the dog. So the copy needs to be updated to reflect that.
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Some of us.
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No Ms. Turtmers.
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I hate when I miss a church.
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Mark, you know I did something crazy while you were reading that ad. Tell me if you can tell crack crazier.
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Okay, wait, hold on. You did something crazy? Let me put the iPad down.
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Yeah, focus. Look at me.
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Yeah, your hair was up before, right? You put on lipstick. You take your bra off.
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No.
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What did you do? Wait, I'm done.
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I took off my mic flag.
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Why?
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It's digging into my belly and I'm always adjusting it and it's. It's like.
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Okay, that's. That's sort of like the one thing you could have said.
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I don't know if you guys have noticed. I'm always, like, moving the microphone, but I have to take it away from me. Then it's too far. I'm taking it off because the corners are digging to my belly.
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Okay, that's like, such a fair reason. However, like, I'm at the Dear media studio, so neither of us are. How is anybody gonna know what. How is anybody gonna know what show this is if you take your mic flag off? Like, I'll just have to hold the iPad up the whole time.
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Wait, you know what I'll do? I'll do this.
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Love.
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It's a nameless, faceless podcast.
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Okay, I just.
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I needed to do it for my health, and I hope that you understand and I know that you.
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I do. I do understand, and I know that you needed to do it for your health. However, I just can't help but like, take it personal because you know how much of my clients I know.
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That's why I came clean. I didn't want you to have to find out on your own and feel like I betrayed you because people would, like, saw me do it and they would have commented, Jackie, if you never.
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Said anything, I would not have noticed.
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But people would have been like, why did Jackie take over my clothes? And then I would have felt like I was keeping some coming from you.
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And Jackie took off her mic flag because she's a self hating toaster.
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Exactly. I hate our branding. I can't even say that with these straight faces. We're so cute.
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Nobody cuter.
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Our first story lured Swift making more news with her talk show appearances. Last night she was on Late night with Seth Meyers recounting tales from the eras tour.
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By the way, best she's looked in years.
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Yes. She looks partial ish. And also I feel like she looks parcel ish. Parcel ish. And she has a new fudge.
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Yeah. Let's talk about Taylor Swift's new face. And I feel like it's crazy.
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She's really gotten away, like, kind of under the radar. Her first appearance on Graham Norton, Like, I know people like said stuff, but I just thought maybe she like, looked different one time. But it's very clear that she's had, like, work done. And that's also why she was hiding at the NFL games. Like, it wasn't about the stalker.
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You and I obviously operate on two completely different corners of the Internet because, like, where I'm lurking, everyone's talking about her new face.
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Oh, I've seen like a couple things, but it's not overwhelming what I've seen. And I feel like everyone's being really kind and I actually feel like an like bringing it up. But like, it's very clear.
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No, no, it's so obvious. And love that for her, like, I'm saying this all in an overwhelmingly positive way because her face looks sick. She looks so good.
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And I do think it was the Apple music interview that like, really spotlighted it. Yes.
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The Zane love. And I think she thought she could get away because she's like on zoom and it's like not the best lighting and it's not like a perfect camera. It's a computer. She looked more different than ever. Like, and it's. I don't know why she would schedule like this doctor's appointment so close to the release. Yeah, because it's so obvious. And you're you, by the way. You were on the money about her lipstick, like trying to throw us off. We can't be deterred.
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No, we can't be deterred. And I feel like people like Ram Norton for me, like sometimes you could look a little different and that was okay with me. Like, I wasn't especially.
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You're traveling like cross continental. You get a little puffy like you could. You look different when you travel.
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But as the face continues to settle, I'm like, oh, it is a new one.
B
And let me tell you, like, when we get to the final resting place of the face, which I do not believe we've gotten there yet because she literally looks different every day, I feel like it's going to be so good because she looked gorgeous on the Zane low one. Like, obviously I don't know what was done. I don't think it was like a full blown facelift but like they are snatching it back.
A
I've seen people say bluff. Upper bluff, Bluff.
B
Yes. That's what Shannon did. The upper bluff.
A
Fox eye.
B
Yeah. But fox eye was like a trendy, like plastic surgery trend that I feel like is not popular right now.
A
It's definitely in the eyes and the cheeks.
B
Do you think she went to Steve Levine?
A
I don't, I don't think so. Because she didn't need a facelift and she didn't get a facelift lift. And did she do this after the engagement and after New Heights or before? It's giving after.
B
It's. It was after. That's what I'm saying. The timing is just like poorly planned. And Taylor has said famously in her documentary, like her whole life is planned two years in advance. Like, she can't even think about, like personal milestones. She already knows that in two years she's going to be on tour or writing an album. And so for them to have like miscalculated the doctor's appointment, it's just like so not Taylor. It's just slipping.
A
She was off from eras till August. She was just like low key making.
B
She has had so much time.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, and also speaking of Taylor, not like jump, but we need to talk about Kelly Teller. Liz Wood's pointing. So it's pointing something out. Like, so sinister that's going on. I mean, we have been on to, I think a lot of people now. Like, all the Swifties can agree. Like, they're definitely not friends. They're definitely some people who are still in denial. But when we first started saying it, people were like, no, no, they were just busy. No way. There is so something Going on between these two. And somebody just unearthed Liz Woods. She posted on her Instagram that an Instagram post from Kelly Teller from, like, before the album came out. It has this long caption. I think it's about her anniversary with Miles or something. And there are two Talos lyrics in there. Dancing through the lightning strike and knock.
A
On wood, which knock on wood is a common phrase, so, like, yes, I could give the benefit of the doubt. Dancing through the lightning strike. So that's crazy. And by that time, the friendship was already in question. Like, because I could see a world where, like, she did that. And that's like. And they were still friends. And it's like, wait, you're kind of spoiling my album.
B
Kelly posted nothing about the album. Nothing about Taylor's engagement. Like, they were so buddy, buddy, like, probably, like. And I was obsessed, but, like, a really fast burning friendship.
A
Yeah.
B
And you go from that to not even posting about the album.
A
Number one in the roster. Golden Globe, State.
B
Globes.
A
Golden Globe. State.
B
Yeah. What are you saying, Goalzy?
A
Golden Globe. Eight.
B
Golden Globe. Say. Yeah. I mean, if I had a Golden Globes.
A
Golden Globes. Unless we weren't dating anymore, I'd post about your album and your engagement.
B
I know. And the lyrics are actually really. That's very, like, oh, to me.
A
And then people like, she launched a clothing line on tiloa today, day 10. 3. Also not something that, like, you do with a friend if that's your best friend.
B
Like, if you have two launches, I need to know what happened.
A
Not like I can't, like, shop and listen at the same time.
B
I actually can.
A
I actually prefer.
B
But that's, like, a pop culture thing. I'm sure we'll never find out what happened, but, like, that is something I would really love to know.
A
Yeah, no, it's definitely, like, becoming more and more clear that the friendship is over, ruined.
B
Yeah. And anybody saying no is in denial. Like, they both, like, have full lives. Okay.
A
They had full, full lives during Golden Ghosting.
B
Right? They had the lives Travis and. Oh, sorry.
A
Oh, I was gonna get to the point of the story, which was, like, some of the anecdotes that Taylor was sharing on.
B
Oh, right, right.
A
Let's not just talk about her looks, Claudia.
B
Sorry. She looked so sick. That corset snatching up that waist. Like, oh, my God, she looked insane. She just looked like a gazelle. Like, so, like, tall and lean and feminine and, like, just sick. She looked so gorgeous. I'm sorry. I'm a toxic woman. I thought she looked pretty. Sorry.
A
Yeah. No, but we were also talking about her facelift. She shared some funny stories about the eras tour about travy. One that I really enjoyed about Greta Gerwig. Or not Greta Gerwig. To Greta or not to Greta. Netta Nerwig Thread a fur wig.
B
I'm just loving this era of, like, Taylor sharing, like, even just like, little things. The fact that, like, Travis would go to a show and then like their post show ritual was like, them kikiing and gossiping about, like, what went down in the VIP tent. Like, just those little nuggets are so important to me as like a woman. And there used to be time when she was with that miserable wench where, like, everything was private, like, they couldn't even take a picture together. And now we've just flipped. So the opposite. There's a weekly podcast coming out every week from Travis and also his sister in law, like, where they just talk about her. Like, thank you. Like, this is literally. I'm a. I'm a Taylor Swift fan, but I'm also like a nosy little bitch. And so I'm just, so. I'm so much happier now than I was back then.
A
Yeah. Do you want to talk about Kylie's podcast?
B
I do.
A
Listen to the clip and how it made you feel.
B
Nobody can convince me Kylie. Kelsey doesn't fudgeing hate Taylor Swift. I'm sorry. The way she talks about Taylor is just never for me seems genuine. And even with. She like, had to talk about the new album, she talked about it, like, couched in her girls, which I get. Like, it's like, I'm sure the girls love Taylor, but, like, she was like. And speaking of the girls, let's talk about the life of a showgirl. Okay. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm. One thing about me, I'm not buying it.
A
No. Every time she talks about Taylor, like, I'm like, I just wish you didn't. Because I wasn't even. I wasn't even wondering, what does Kylie think of life of a show?
B
Me neither.
A
And I wonder. I'm sure there are people who would be like, why wouldn't she talk about it? But at this point point, like, I just feel like the way that Kylie is, it's like, if she never talked about Taylor, I would just respect that. Like, that's just because she doesn't want to, like, talk about her. And I, I would actually. The mystery would make me feel like they're actually good, they're closer. But then when she goes and talks about Her. It's just like, it's never enough. No. And it just never feels, like, warm and fuzzy. Yeah.
B
Yeah. But I think also we don't know Kylie Kelsey. Like, we don't listen to her podcast. And I do think that's very much like her Philly personality. It's sort of like this hard ass, and that's how she, like, talks to her husband. Whatever. And, like, so maybe we're just like, don't get her. But all I'm saying is every time I hear a clip, I'm like, she hates this. Like, yeah.
A
And I'm like, she shouldn't have said anything because then I wouldn't have heard a clip.
B
Exactly. And I didn't need the. The not talking about Travis and Taylor's engagement, like, was weird because it's about Travis.
A
Right.
B
And Travis is her family.
A
Yeah.
B
I didn't need, like, a recap on. When I think of Taylor's new album, I'm not like, I. There wasn't a song about Kylie on it. Like, there's not a lyric about Kylie. I don't actually need Kylie's take. So I didn't. I wasn't looking for that in an episode.
A
Yeah. And she did engage with what people have been saying about, like, the song Wish list is literally, like, Kylie's life, which is so cute. But it just, like, didn't come off as cute.
B
It's funny, when I heard wish list, I didn't think of that. That's Kylie's life, but she's like a.
A
Whole block looking like you.
B
Yeah, actually, they look more like her, but yeah.
A
Yeah. So there you go.
B
Her name was Turdy. Made her money being Purdy and Wordy. Somebody DM that to me yesterday, and I'm obsessed. I might actually make it my new Instagram bio.
A
Oh, that's cute.
B
Yeah. Do you think the lyric is, like, famous enough yet?
A
No.
B
Right. Like, in a year, will people know.
A
What I'm saying right now? Like, what are we letting go of.
B
The life of a turd girl? No, I'm kidding. It is. Oh, it's gotta go. What is it? The name's Turdy. Dirty Lou. Okay, James Bond. Why is nobody talking about how losery my Instagram bio is? Like, I need more people to be, like, making fun of me for that. Should we change it right now?
A
Yeah, sure.
B
To that or anything. Do you have. You're, like, good with words.
A
I mean, my Instagram bio couldn't be stupid.
B
Stupider. Why? The CEO of 30 Lou Global. I love it.
A
CEO of 30 the Global. When people like, email me. Like, cold email me. They're like, hi, Jacqueline, we love what you're doing at Turdy Lou Global.
B
Well, when I like scrapes the Internet for information about you. If you ever like ask chat like, what is Jackie Ashrae's job? They would say, found CEO of her name was charity. Made her money be and I'm going to do it and see, like, how it feels being purdy and wordy.
A
His name made his money being cruno and luno.
B
Okay. Her name was Jackie. Made her money being wacky and tacky. I love it. Wait, but that's funny. Like, you're obviously not tacky.
A
Like, I know.
B
Let me see how it looks.
A
Just like not a nice word, you know?
B
Oh, I. I just want to say, like, I hate this.
A
I'll fix it later. Didn't she say that in actually romantic they called her tacky or something?
B
Oh, yeah. Stop talking dirty to me.
A
Yeah, yeah. Okay, next story.
B
You think? I don't even know if that's gonna say. Oh, yeah. So she told all these stories.
A
I watched one story and I enjoyed the one, but I didn't want to hear about the Burmese python.
B
But she's just like a great storyteller. Like, Seth Meyers was there.
A
Seth Meyers was there. She was telling stories. I like the Greta Gerwig story. I sat through it and I enjoyed it, but I didn't listen to further stories.
B
I also find it, like, surprising that she's not going on Jimmy Kimmel just to, like, make a statement. It's almost like a glaring omission.
A
I was thinking that too, because she's no.
B
Her choice to go on Fallon is actually safe. Like, they're such good friends. They have that connection, like his mother.
A
That wasn't the red flag against Kimmel. But now you're.
B
Now she's doing like and also like the like this tier two shows.
A
Like, I do think in general it's a good decision for her to not go on Kimmel because it's polarizing. It is in this moment. And he has, like, less viewers now than he did before everything happened. And I just, like, I think she would want no part of it. Like, this is meant.
B
And then it would become about that. Right.
A
Like, and I think that she's wise to just stay away from it because it's not like she has to do it or anything like that.
B
No. So I think I just found it interesting.
A
But I think she should do Jake Shane.
B
Yeah, of course.
A
Yeah. I wonder what. What else she's going to do.
B
She's doing a lot.
A
Yeah. She did Apple music.
B
I know. And like, while I understand, like, people love Zane Low. Can you raise your hand if you've ever, like, watched a Zane Low interview? Not, like a clip of Taylor on it. Like, do you tune in to Zane Low? And oh, and by the way, it begs the question, who the is Z Low? He's like, why do we care?
A
Expert.
B
So am I. And I'm sorry, the music expert of this generation is Jake Shane. Like, Jake Shane is the new Z Low. Sorry.
A
Yeah. And also like, Zoom.
B
No Zoom.
A
It's 2025.
B
No, it's giving Covid.
A
No. That's like, just upsetting. When I see something like that, I don't like it. Even though I guess this show is on Zoom.
B
Actually, I'm sorry, no, we don't use Zoom.
A
We don't use Zoom. And the show is par.
B
Like, is the Zoom in the room with us? No, we literally don't use Zoom. It's the worst, like, product ever.
A
And it's the worst interface.
B
Yeah, I have ptsd.
A
I agree. I'm gonna make the call. I don't know if we finished discussing the story, but I'm gonna move on to the next story.
B
She's calling it.
A
I'm calling it. I just feel like we'll be back here probably later in the week. Okay, next story. Beckham family puts on united front at Victoria's Netflix doc premiere without Brooklyn and Nichol. So we've sort of been like, countdown to the premiere. We figured Brooklyn and Nicola wouldn't be there though they were at David's premiere signaling better times. And now we're in worse times because it's Victoria's premiere and they were not there, though all the kids and their significant others were there to celebrate Victoria's new docu series on Netflix, which is out now. And I can't wait to watch.
B
I can't wait to watch it either. And I think the other two kids being there. I'm sorry, it just like, doesn't do it for me. I don't even know their names.
A
Cruz and.
B
And Beckham.
A
Hold on. Romeo, Romeo, Romeo. Rehome.
B
Yeah.
A
By the way, you're such an influencer, living in LA and rehoming your dog.
B
Oh. I just want to say my family's made a decision about Romeo. I forgot to tell you this. When we do get back from la, whenever that is, like, he will be coming home.
A
He gets one more chance.
B
Yeah. Ben went over to his parents house to say goodbye before we left and he got like so emo seeing Romeo. Romeo was being such a good boy and like, you know, Ben really loves Romeo. I love Romeo too, obviously, but like not as much as I did before. And Ben was really sad. I said, of course he can come home. And now like Ruby is sleep trained. I don't think actually a bark would wake him up. But when Romeo came home and we were trying to like put Ruby down for naps, like it was so temperamental. And you're fudgeing, barking like, get the fudge out of your bitch.
A
Yeah.
B
Now we're in a better, more stable place. We have a new home. So like, it's fine. He'll come home. So Romeo's coming home. He's coming home.
A
I love that. And Romeo Beckham went home to his family. At the premiere of Victoria's Dog you series, it was Romeo Cruz and Harper, the daughter who's 14, who's just like so cute, you know. And you know she's not caught up in the drama. No.
B
I am looking forward to like her coming of age story and like seeing her do fashion week stuff and like becoming, you know, like an Apple Martin type of swirly because that's totally in her future. Having said that, like, these kids don't do it for me. I'm sure they're lovely people. But like, I need Brooklyn there, I need Nicola there. And I'm sure they, they want Nicola and Brooklyn there too. It's like, I know we always say. I know we always say like, well maybe she could. No, like you're not there. You're there is such bad vibes.
A
They had a vow renewal and they weren't there. Like we knew it was done but like this was going to be like one more critical thing. Just like Taylor's Bachelorette will prove if she's friends with Blake and Kelly. Like one more critical moment that is a nail in the coffin.
B
It's really bad and it's such a cliche. Like, come on, be better.
A
Yeah, it's upsetting.
B
But I'm looking forward to the documentary.
A
Yeah, me too. I think I'll watch that tonight. Oh, I watched Love is Blind last night. Three new episodes dropped. I'll do like a, a mini recap at the end. One, because Claudia didn't watch yet and I want to talk about it with you. And two, like they weren't like the most bus in episodes except like the in Denver mixer did happen.
B
Love that.
A
The Denver mixer where you know, all the cast offs came to play. So that was Like, I guess the most interesting piece of it. But we are getting to see, like, the couples either maturing or not. And some of them, like, I actually think have more potential than I did last week when I was like, you should break up today.
B
Okay. Do you think there's any chance that Victoria's documentary references the issue in her family or they're not like that?
A
I think if it did, it actually would be in the stories today because I think, like, editors who already would write it up. Like, I saw headlines about, like, talking about eating disorders on a win tour. I think it would be in the news. So our next story, an update from number number three.
B
Okay.
A
An update for something we were talking about yesterday, which was Dancing with the Chart Stars dedication night.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Danielle Fischl.
B
So we, by the way, we just like, sort of misunderstood with dedication.
A
Oh, yeah, for sure. It doesn't mean that you're, like dancing with a rando. You are still dancing with the star.
B
You're dancing for the rando title. I'm crying.
A
Oh, goodness.
B
Goodness me. Oh. And also when I thought it was still like dancing with the rando and it said Danielle Fishel is dancing with the 98 year old Mr. Feeny. Mr. Feeny. I'm like, that's actually really not fair. Like, that's crazy to make him try it, like get up and dance and like train for a week.
A
Oh, I just assumed, like, he would be in a wheelchair and like she would be like dancing around him. And I only assume that because.
B
Is he in a wheelchair?
A
No, but like in the picture of him and her, like the most recent one, like, he's sitting and she's like crouched above him. Like how you do, like with an older person just to get up, just so they don't have to get up.
B
Right.
A
I actually didn't even question, like, how he was gonna dance at 99 years old. I. I just thought for sure, like, they were gonna win, but now, well, they might still. Anyway, she is bringing William Daniels, aka Mr. Feeney to dancing with the Stars dedication night. Said it's going to be very memorable. So we were half right that she would pick someone from Boy Meets World. Apparently Ben Savage does not like, doesn't with Topanga. He doesn't want anyone from Boy weeks world, including Mr. Feeny.
B
Just so he's giving like a self. Like he's a self hating boy. He's a self hating Disney star.
A
Yeah. So her and Pasha are going to dance at jive and Bill is going to be on the ballroom floor.
B
With us.
A
And he's going to participate in the dance as well.
B
Okay. So it's dancing for the randos. And the randos.
A
And with, for, and with.
B
For and by.
A
Yeah, yeah. They're dancing to the Boy Meets World theme song.
B
The one you all know and love.
A
Yeah. So, like.
B
Wait, which one? The original.
A
The original.
B
Because this.
A
Not the Sabrina Carpenter.
B
The Sabrina Carpenter one is so good. I've been waiting for a day like this to come. That's like lightning, that song is so.
A
I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna play it. So, Ben.
B
Did I say something?
A
I don't know it.
B
I've never heard this song before in my life. Yeah, no, I was, like, a big Disney kid. But there are, like, particular blind spots I don't know if you've seen, actually. And I watched Wizards of Waverly Place, but I guess, like, yesterday marked a day, technically. Alex Russo's character, like, Diesel, like, in the last episode, they say she's gonna die on October, whatever, 2025. And that was yesterday. And every. Everybody's like, alex Russo's dead. Like, who gives a. They're like, Disney Channel blind spots for me. And Boy Meets World is, like, Loki, one of them. Like, I. I had watched episodes, and I remember that one where, like, that friend Sean, who was, like, kind of hot, he, like, becomes a bad boy and, like, is addicted to, like, Advil or something. But the show is not really, like, a part of my.
A
No, it's very. Childhood Ahead of our time. Like, by Ben.
B
Loved it. Ben, like, turned to me when we were watching Dancing with the Stars, and he's like, topanga was, like, the love of my life. And I said, what? Not me. Kind of looking like Topanga.
A
No, Topanga looks like my friend Sam.
B
No. Do you know who Topanga looks like? I said it to Ben. He said it was the best call ever. And I'm sorry that the toasters are not going to know who this person is. Dr. Freilish, our pediatrician growing up.
A
Yeah, but you also just have her on the brain because she's a pediatrician.
B
She's Ruby's pediatrician.
A
Because you're seeing.
B
No, no, Ben. Jackie, she's so Topanga.
A
No, to me, she's Sam Frankel.
B
It's a good call, too. Yeah, but Sam Frankel is Mary Beth Holland.
A
Yes, I do. After you said that, I did start to see it. Anyways, Topanga's bringing out Mr. Feeney. We know who some other people are bringing out. Elaine's bringing out Chessy Dylan is Bringing out the younger Efron sister. Not.
B
I don't believe you.
A
Not Zach.
B
Okay. Thus fueling my theory. Zac Efron hates his brother Dylan.
A
He's just, like, such a. Not a team player, you know? Like, Zach. Yeah. Like, I actually think he loves Dylan and would do anything for him except show up to Dancing with the Stars. Like, he didn't do the High School Musical reunion on Zoom during COVID which at the time, really hurt. But today, like, feels, in hindsight, it.
B
Was the right call.
A
It definitely feels like a good choice. He's just, like, always off, like, yachting with his friends and, like, doesn't want to be, like, do the things that, like, the people would love.
B
I feel like Zac Efron was, like, more than happy to, like, include Dylan and, like, be there for Dylan. And Dylan was a nobody. Right. Like, he had his brother on his show. Zac Efron at the end of the world. And now, like, Dylan is a formidable opponent, sort of. And I think Zach's jealous.
A
Honestly, I really don't think that's it. I just think he's, like, a party pooper.
B
Yeah.
A
And it's annoying me because he's one of my faves.
B
I agree. Like, he's. In hindsight, he shouldn't have done that High School Musical reunion. Like, that was a bunch of yellow belly losers.
A
But at the time, it's exactly. Where are you? You're.
B
I know. No one's doing anything else.
A
Like, be Troy Bolton.
B
Be him. Try right now. I can hardly breathe. Oh, you can do it. Just know that I believe those movies actually don't even get me started. Those movies are so good. Like, it's crazy that people thought the Revenant was a good movie. Like, have you seen High School Musical 3?
A
I'm not getting you started, because this episode's already going out late, and we just can't go a half hour later.
B
Oh, it's so true. Okay. Yeah. Okay, moving on.
A
Are you ready to our fourth story?
B
If it's our fourth story that's brought to you by Saxophone. Actually placed an order on sacks.com this morning because, like, I'm. I don't know if I mentioned I'm in Hollywood and actually got invited to a party, and I did not pack, like, one party thing. And also, nothing fits me right now.
A
She's going to a party in a limo.
B
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Tell me what's right for me.
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A
Our fourth story.
B
Sure.
A
Saronan will play Linda McCartney.
B
Saoirse.
A
I tried. I really didn't. She will be playing Linda McCartney in the New Beatles movie.
B
Movies.
A
So we have been talking about these Beatles movies for years now. Four movies, four Beatles. Everyone gets their own movie. Saoirse has landed the role of Linda, the wife of Sir Paul McCartney in the upcoming four part Beatles biopic. As a reminder, Paul Mezcal will be playing Paul McCartney.
B
Feels like a generous casting for Paul Mezcal. Yeah.
A
You mean generous to Paul McCartney.
B
Correct. It's like, yes, I. I would like Megan Fox to play me in the Turdy Lou Global biopic. Everybody's talking about these four Beatles movies. When I tell you I don't give a. And one of my hot takes. And I say this every time, like, I don't give a about the Beatles. Their music. Loki sucks. Like, I just don't care. So happy for Saoirse that she got this role. And I feel like Saoirse Ronan's been chasing the high. Like she can get cast in whatever movie she wants. She will never have a better role than her first role, which was the girl who got murdered in the Lovely Bones. Literally the saddest movie ever. Oh, my God.
A
I always get. Do you get this on Instagram? Or maybe it's yes, yes. Like, clips of movies. Like, and I find myself, like watching five minutes of a movie on my phone. Like, I can't turn it off. And I'm so aware of it now. I'm like, this is a complete waste of my time. Stop watching them.
B
Jackie. I have seen the entire movie Interstellar in the form of tick tock clips. I've never actually seen the movie in full, just in tick tock clips. And I've also seen every episode of Young Sheldon in Tick Tock.
A
Oh, I also see the Good Doctor a lot.
B
Oh, I don't get the Good Doctor with like, the doctor who's autistic.
A
Yeah. Like, I get a lot of, like, medical cases. And then so someone comes in and it's house. Yeah. And they have something like, very rare. And I'm like, wait, wait, what is it? So I'm literally sitting there watching a movie on Instagram.
B
Chicago Met. I watch. Yeah, no, I Literally watch TV shows in two minute clips.
A
What is it? I need them to stop, like, for the sake of just, like, productivity and mental health. Like, I don't need to be sitting down to watch a movie right now.
B
Yeah. And it's like, do you think with these directors and these screenwriters, like, put together these, like, passion projects of theirs, do they realize, like, most people are going to consume them in 30 second clips on reels?
A
I don't know, but so I get a lot of, like, Lovely Bones clips. Like the scene where Mark Wahlberg realizes.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
When he's, like, building the.
B
When the sister is in Stanley Tucci's house and she, like, she. She opens the floorboard and Stanley Chuchi's like, is there some in my house? And she's trying to be really quiet until she drops the floorboard and he, like, hears it from downstairs and comes running after her. I get that scene all the time.
A
Oh, my God. No. Him in his backyard, like, building a yurt, talking to the father of the woman.
B
The yurt.
A
Oh, my God.
B
Not enough people talk about Stanley Tucci's, like, acting abilities. I feel like they just know him like Devil Wears Prada. He's always playing, like, sassy. No, his range. You have to see the Lovely Bones. It's the best movie ever.
A
No, but it's really disturbing.
B
Yes, it is. The book. I actually never read the book, but Olivia read it when she was a kid and she was, like, always talking about it so much to the point where I feel like I read the book, you know, and I also saw the movie. Such a powerful story.
A
Yeah. So after that, coming off the high of Lovely Bones, Saoirse will be playing Linda McCartney.
B
That's what I'm saying.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, I. I know, like, somebody probably assumes that I do, but I actually don't have any issues with Saoirse Ronan. Like, I kind of like her, even though I think people would think, like, we have beef, you know?
A
Yeah. That we're not like, the elk of Saoirse Ites, but we're not Ronanites. No, she's a talented actress. It's, like, not her fault that, like, the movie she's in, like, aren't my favorite movies of all time, I guess that is.
B
I don't know what, like, genre she does, but it's like, the anti Turdy genre.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Like, I saw Lady Bird. I wasn't inspired. I didn't see her version of Little Women. And, like, I'm genuinely okay with that. I've also Never seen Little Women. I've never read Little Women. I know somebody dies and somebody's a lesbian, and I do actually, like, one day want to commit to watching it.
A
So I'm trying to, like reading it because it's, like, about four daughters.
B
Like sisters.
A
Yeah. No people.
B
It's about Melania, Gabriella, Gia. They're.
A
No, it's about Brooks, Grace, Mary Holland, Sarah Jane.
B
Thousand percent.
A
Yeah. No, I guess it is Saoirse's fault that she chooses movies that she knows we wouldn't want to watch.
B
And there's actually a episode of Friends where Joey reads Little Women and, like, he goes through the emotions of it and they actually spoil the book. In he, like, he reads it because he thinks it's porn because he reads, like, the lesbian scene. He's like, oh, I could read this. Then it turns out to be, like, this very sad book and they spoil it. Like, I. I know somebody dies. I don't know who. They spoil it. I actually, I. I blocked it out of my memory because the day will come when I'm gonna sit my ass down and read that book. And I want to be so surprised.
A
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
B
Yeah. Only because it's. No offense. Dear media. A thousand degrees in here. Like, they've got to get some air. I'm dying. Are you dying? Okay, maybe it's me. I'm running hot. I'm breastfeeding.
A
Maybe it's me. Wordle game show is in the works from Jimmy Fallon and NBC, with Savannah Guthrie set to host. So wordle may soon be coming to TV as NBC is piloting a game show based on the brain puzzle game. Jimmy Fallon is producing the project via his electric hot dog banner, and Savannah Guthrie is set to be the host. The pilots, which pilot, which is also produced by Universal Television alternative studio, is filming in the uk.
B
Okay, so I have nothing against Savannah Guthrie per se.
A
I didn't think.
B
I just. I'm not, like, loving the choice. Having said that, I do think that this is a great idea. I love game shows also. I'm so. And I feel good. I feel like I made an investment in Jimmy Fallon a few years ago. Like, I've never been a hater. You low key have, and a lot of people have. And I feel like I've always just kind of like, defended Jimmy Fallon. I feel like he's really kind of crushing it lately. Have you heard anything about his show with Bose?
A
No, it hasn't come out yet. But when it does come out, I'm going To watch because I saw the trailer and I thought that it looked good.
B
Yeah. I just feel like he's kind of like crushing it lately.
A
Yeah, I think so too. I think as one Jimmy sort of sinks another sales.
B
Yeah. And I know he like publicly said he was team Jimmy Kimmel, but I know he was like so happy that shit was going down with Jimmy Kimmel. Like, better that Jimmy than me. He was saying to his wife, you know.
A
Yeah. Feeling like he made the right choices to just be like the funny man.
B
Spineless.
A
Yeah. Commercial.
B
What? Right. One thing about Jimmy Fallon, like, he sings for his supper. Like, you want me to be a Republican? Cool. You want me to be a Democrat? Cool. You want me to be into like 19 year old teen music? Oh, yeah, no. Like, he doesn't give a fudge. Like he's here to entertain. He's here to make a living. And you know what? I respect the Hustle.
A
Yeah. So, yeah, I think as a premise, like the show would be good because Wordley is something that you kind of like, do quickly solve quickly. Some people are better at it than others. So I think that could be a cute show if for games, the game.
B
Show hosted by Jane Krakowski and Randy Jackson, where they like have celebrities on as contestants and they give them like a song. They have to guess the song based on the first few notes. And so Erica Jane I just saw was on and she was like, I can guess the song in seven notes, but then the person, I forget who she was playing was like, I can guess it in six. And whoever goes lower. So then the Eric. So Erica was like, I couldn't guess it in five, so she lets the girl guess it in six. So Randy Jackson then on the piano plays the first six notes of the song. And seriously, it looks like one of those shows, like one of those fake game shows they made on 30 Rock.
A
Yeah. Or like for a movie, you know about someone who produces game shows.
B
And yeah.
A
Break out and stop living so such.
B
A stupid, stressful life. It feels so fake every time I see. To be clear, I only see clips of it on Instagram. I don't know where this show airs. It feels like, seriously, like it's actually not a real. It's a fake show.
A
Great. I'm glad I don't know what you're talking about.
B
And to be clear, I have never seen somebody successfully guess the song. You literally can't guess a song with just three notes on a piano.
A
It's so Charlie Puth could.
B
Charlie Booth could. He should be the host by the way, no. No offense to Randy Jackson. It should be Charlie out there shaking his thing.
A
Charlie's like, giving music education lessons on tick tock and reels right now, explaining, like, what it means. Interpolate a song. And let me just say he ate down with that.
B
Yeah. I just want to say I feel like there were a couple of months where, like, I talked about Charlie Puth on the podcast all the time, like, making fun of him. And I stand by what I said, but I just want to update everybody. I don't, like, hate him so much anymore.
A
I don't remember why.
B
Why I started hating on him. I can't remember. I feel like he's a cutie.
A
Like, he's a talented guy and he's using. Like, he has this gift of music. Like, he has perfect pitch and he's just like. Like he's got the music in him.
B
Yeah.
A
And now he's, like, giving back to the world by, like, explaining it in, like, layman's terms. I actually really enjoyed his videos explaining interpretation and comparing songs that I feel like everyone compares the same two songs. Right. Everyone's like, Marvin G. Yeah. Ball Z.
B
Red. He's Taylor Swift. Blue. Right.
A
He's giving me fresh Hailee Steinfeld versus Fifth Harmony.
B
Totally not him. Pitting women against women.
A
I love that for him. He definitely takes Superwoman.
B
He, Charlie Puth 1000% calls Uberwoman.
A
Yeah.
B
Uber women.
A
I wonder if, like, men have that option to do Uber Woman.
B
I hope not. Right? That would be creepy.
A
As I need to know more about Uber Woman and the team leading it.
B
I heard the team leading it.
A
You just know there's a whole team at Uber whose, like, job it is to lead Uber.
B
They get paid like 250, 000 a year.
A
Yeah. For this big idea. And I would just, I would love to talk to the team.
B
Set it.
A
Up about what's next for Uber Woman.
B
I am going to call it because like you said, the episode has to go up.
A
The show must go on.
B
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A
Love. Do you have some. Sounded like half a sentence. Was there more to say?
B
No, no. Like, you started talking, so I was like. I was holding space for you.
A
Okay. Get that scene.
B
Are you okay?
A
Out of here. Get that seed.
B
That's nasty.
A
Get that seat tomorrow. Out of here.
B
Oh, so you don't. You okay? Fine.
A
Love ya. Bye. Leave a message.
B
Bruno.
Episode Title: Dancing FOR The Randos: Thursday, October 9th, 2025
Date: October 9, 2025
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Network: Dear Media
This episode of The Toast is infused with the signature, swirly energy of Jackie and Claudia Oshry ("Jax and Claude"), covering a blend of personal updates, pop culture hot takes, and their trademark comic banter. It marks the start of “Turdy Wood” as Claudia records live from LA at Dear Media headquarters, leading to fresh stories about her family’s Hollywood relocation, run-ins with Andy Cohen, debates about Uber Woman, and breakdowns of trending pop culture news (Taylor Swift’s “new face,” celebrity friendships, the Beckham family doc, and more). Jackie also shares her experience as a judge for a major literary contest.
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The main pop culture roundtable begins here.
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“Let me tell you, I walked past [Andy Cohen’s] computer like five times. He was watching new episodes...and he was jotting down notes. I was being such a little rat, but he was actually doing it. Wow.”
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“Her face looks sick. She looks so good.” – Claudia
[25:31] “I’ve seen people say ‘bluff...upper bluff...fox eye.’” – Jackie
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“I can’t take such a risk with a woman driver. I’m like, this is so California.” – Claudia
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“It’s definitely...becoming more and more clear that the [Keleigh-Kelly] friendship is over, ruined.” – Jackie
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“That’s crazy to make him try and dance at 99 years old.” – Claudia
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“I don’t give a [bleep] about the Beatles. Their music low-key sucks.” – Claudia
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“Jackie, I have seen the entire movie Interstellar in the form of TikTok clips. I’ve never actually seen the movie in full.” – Claudia
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“He sings for his supper. You want me to be a Republican? Cool. A Democrat? Cool… He doesn’t give a fudge. He’s here to entertain.” – Claudia
The episode bounces energetically between personal storytelling and irreverent cultural critique. The sisters riff off each other with their usual sibling shorthand, sarcastic hot takes, and gleeful “dilly-dallying.” Their pop culture coverage is detailed but playful, often veering into tangents or inside jokes before neatly looping back. Overall, the episode feels like an extended, lively catch-up between two best friends who just happen to be at the center of influencer-millennial media.
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