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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast. Happy Monday. That dead ass feels like a Wednesday because the week is so short. We have so much to fucking talk about. Hey, Jax, how you doing during?
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A
Good. We have so much to talk about. I was, like, working all night last night, you know, watching Wicked.
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B
So I worked all night.
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A
It doesn't feel like a Monday. I worked all night. I saw it late because we went after the kids went down. And, like, I didn't get home till midnight.
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B
I mean, that's so crazy of you. I was thinking, like, she's such a good mom. Like, just miss bedtime one time. Just go to the movies at 4:00. Like, I went at 5. It was perfect. We got home at like, 8:30. I went to bed at 9. Like, it was perfect.
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A
No, seriously, I got home at 11:45.
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B
So stupid.
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A
No, I didn't think that. I don't know what I would have done differently. I wouldn't have, like, left my children to go sit at the movies. Like, even sitting there and they're sleeping, I'm like, now I remember why I never want to go to the movies. Like, this experience is not for someone with young children, like, least of all me. But the movie, I had to see the movie, so.
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B
And I was supposed to be. This is all Jackie. I wasn't supposed to see the movie. I bought tickets intentionally for Thanksgiving weekend. I thought it would be such a nice way to spend the Thanksgiving weekend. Everybody's out of the city. There were tons of tickets. And then Jackie sprung on me on Saturday. She's like, hey, I think I'm going to see Wicked tomorrow night. Like, if you could see it too, so we can recap it together. And by the way, try to get tickets to Wicked in Manhattan is like trying to get tickets to Hamilton. Like, it was insane. I went to the most random theater at, like, this random time. And the theater we booked had three rows. And I was like, where are we going? To someone's living room. Like, it was so scary. We were, like, so afraid. Up until the moment we walked in. It was totally fine. It was just like a really small theater. And we are gonna do a big, official Wicked recap. It's gonna be our first story. If you're looking to avoid spoilers, check the timestamps in the description of this episode. There will be a full timestamp for, like, anything you could possibly spoil. So that's the first story. We won't get into it. It'll be hard not to. It's also gonna Be so hard not to sing because I was so well behaved at the theater last night.
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A
I can stop singing all morning. And though I'd never show it, I'd be so happy, I could melt.
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B
And I actually feel. And I promise we won't dive into the whole thing right now. I just wanna start off today's episode by actually apologizing to Cynthia and Ariana because.
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A
Oh, really?
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B
My ass was in the theater holding a shit ton of space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity. And I actually think my husband was also holding space for it too.
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A
Interesting.
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B
I feel as though they've been acting so crazy on this press tour and, like, I fully understand why. And given the performances that they deliver, like, they are allowed to act however they want. Like, if I'm that talented. Yeah. I'm also crazy. Okay.
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A
Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Like, with that level of talent, you have to be crazy. Like, you're not also, like Elon said, I'm not also going to be like a cool, normal dude.
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B
Right.
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A
But it's also kind of an oxymoron to have to hold space for defying gravity when, like, if you're defying gravity, it doesn't need to.
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B
You're talking about it from, like, a scientific standpoint.
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A
Yeah. It's just like, it's actually funny.
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B
Now let's try for the next, like, five minutes not to talk about Wicked.
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A
Because I'll try and remember what else I did this weekend.
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B
Well, I really didn't cannot do much except that I watched the Parent Trap.
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A
I remember what I did this weekend.
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B
And I want to talk about the Parent Trap.
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A
I mean, we literally talked about it two weeks ago on Toast to Ween. We did a whole episode dedicated to it.
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B
Yeah. And I rewatched it on Saturday night because Ben and I just, like, couldn't decide on something and we ended up just watching it and, like, loving it. I obviously, I know I'm like, highly emotional. I cried so many times during Wicked and like, I'm just. I'm crying, like, that's what I do. But I feel as though, like, don't write off my tears that I'm about to describe. It's just like pregnancy hormones. Because, like, I actually. The scene in the first of all, the concept of the Parent Trap. And we've talked about this, like, splitting up, little kids, neglect. It's three identical strangers made into like a fictional, romanticized film. It's terrible what they did to those girls. But the scene where, like, the American girly goes to London comes Home from camp and is like, in the house for the first time looking for her mom. And she, like, runs up the stairs into her mother's arms. Like, I was literally sobbing. It's so sad. It's not cute. It's devastating.
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A
Yeah. It's child abuse, neglect.
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B
I was shocked.
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A
Like, yeah. It's not just like, she got. She got, like, pulled the wool over her eyes. She convinced her she's Annie. It's like, this is your long lost mother.
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B
It was absolutely devastating. And she's, like, trying to connect with her mother whilst pretending to be someone else. It was.
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A
It's a lot for a young child.
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B
It's a lot for a pregnant person, seriously, to watch it. I was feel having a lot of complex emotions, obviously the nostalgia of the film. And I was, oh, you know, I watched it because Lindsay Lohan's been doing like, a big press tour for her.
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A
New Netflix holiday movie. Yeah.
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B
I was like, what is she even doing press for? And she went kind of viral for talking about Parent Trap on Watch Weapons Live. And I watched that clip and she was, like, looking so good. I'm having, like, a Lindsay renaissance. I just thought I found her on Instagram a couple of months ago because she's looking so gorgeous. And then I was like, you know what? I'll watch Parent Trap. And I really wish that I didn't.
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A
Lindsay Lohan, like, everyone is talking about her. I watched her whole episode of Watch what Happens Live because I thought it was so cute that she did it with Lacey.
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B
That was, by the way. That's why Watch what Happens Live is like, really always, like, supreme. Like, they do shit like that.
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A
But they're also both promoting Netflix holiday movies. So, like, it worked on Netflix's part and it was such a cute episode. They're both doing so well. But of course, like, Lindsay, who at one point was very unwell. It looks better than ever. So clear, like, so funny. Just the Lindsay that we always knew. And it's crazy that she's just, like.
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B
Back and this is how we all, like, wished that she was gonna grow up to be. And there's actually a big conversation on TikTok happening now about Lindsay Lohan and Christina Aguilera.
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A
I don't know if you've seen about their faces.
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B
Yeah, they're two women who I think, like, went to a little bit of extremes when it came to, like, filler and botox and plastic surgery over the course of their, like, young adult lives and now have really reined it in. And they're everyone's trying to figure out who this doctor is who's clearly, like, working with women in Hollywood, like Christine Aguilera and. And like, Lindsay Lohan, who have not only pulled back so much of the plastic surgery, but look amazing for their age.
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A
Right. But no, I don't think it's that they've pulled back the plastic surgery. I think it's just. They've done something else.
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B
No, no, sorry. They've pulled back the look of, like, you know, being really plastic surgery. Looking, like, puffy.
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A
Yeah. But I think they. They did something. Some people are saying it's like, oh, they stopped the filler. No. Like, I don't know, face transplants. What? They look amazing.
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B
You guys have until I give birth to figure out who that doctor is and get me an appointment.
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A
Yeah, yeah. They look really great. Not a lot of movement, but who needs movement? I was singing this morning, my face was moving so much. It's like, stop it.
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B
You know, who needs movement?
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A
Actually?
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B
Actors.
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A
I don't know. Lindsay's such a great actor. She's in. I didn't watch her new movie, but, like, you forget, like, she is an amazing actress. And we always say, like, there's no such thing as a good actress. Like, everyone's a liar. Anyone can do it. No, there are actually some people who give them any role. They will be good in it.
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B
I mean. And honestly, the parent trap is really evident of her talent. She was so young, playing two different girls, two different accents, two different roles. She carried that whole film on her back.
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A
Talking to herself.
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B
Yeah. Actually talking to nobody at most of the film. Like, it's actually beyond impressive. You're right. She is, like, at the core, like, a very skilled actress.
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A
Yeah. Also, she reminds me a lot about Amanda Bynes, and I feel like that feeling that we have about Amanda Bynes, which is like, I would love to see her in something today. Like, she was so. She's so funny. She said you get, like, she just is lost.
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B
It's a perfect comparison.
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A
It's like, imagine if Amanda binds, like, just got together and was, like, back to work and looking great and feeling great and sounding great. Like, that's how this feels.
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B
That's such a great comparison. And we need to get Amanda Bynes on the Lindsay Lohan Expressway.
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A
Yeah, yeah. She's like the talent of our generation. She is the comedic talent.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what you do this weekend besides Wicked at Midnight?
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A
Besides Wicked at Midnight. Dana was here this weekend, and she was really only here for 24 hours. And we had the best Day ever. She brought her baby here, and because she was in town for a wedding, so she stayed over the following night. And it was just amazing. Like, friendship evolving, maturing children meeting. We had seriously the best, most wholesome time.
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B
Tell me about the meeting of the minds. The wine children meeting. The Webman children. Child.
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A
The women child. They loved him. I mean, Reed is not old enough to, like, I couldn't say if Reed loved them, but, like, he wasn't screaming at them, right? But they couldn't get enough of him. They just wanted to watch him change his diaper. Like, just everything he was doing, they were just, like, watching him.
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B
And tell me about, like, Dana as a mom. I was with her, like, a couple of weekends ago, and she was, like, holding a baby. And I was seriously, like, I couldn't get over it because she is a child.
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A
Yeah, she packs for him in a backpack. Like, Claudia, I posted this to my story, but I feel like people. I meant to follow up because I feel like where people were probably like, oh, well, Josh probably had a suitcase.
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B
Yeah, Josh had a backpack.
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A
I didn't get him. Josh had a backpack. Dana had her jansport and her baby had a backpack. And that is how they traveled for the weekend. Like, where do they keep the bottles?
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B
Let me tell you something. This really, I think, reflects to a conversation we were having last week about how the. A lot of the anxiety I have about, like, child rearing is so much of the clutter and so much of the, like, shit and consumerism. And honestly, the Dana Webman like, route of motherhood.
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A
Listen, I get women minimalist route.
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B
I actually understand it and I hope to be like her. Honestly, if I could just throw everything into three backpacks for a weekend trip with my family. And I'm going to a wedding. Jackie, that's beautiful.
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A
It's so crazy to me, like, when I travel with just one baby, like, my carry on would be bigger than their backpack.
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B
It's insane.
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A
Like, just of what to bring on the plane, let alone my suitcase.
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B
She's a marvel.
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A
I know, but I just. I also like stuff. I like having options. I like a couple of cozy blankies.
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B
Of course, options.
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A
Plus, like, I also had. I told her, don't bring anything. Like, I'll give you clothes, I'll give you car. I'll give you stroller. I'll give you changing table. Like, don't bring a thing.
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B
Yeah. That's so nice.
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A
It was really, really nice. That was definitely a highlight of the weekend.
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B
Oh, I also, like, sort of entered my nesting era. Very briefly. And I sent you a link. I actually, like, called and texted you, like, 55 times yesterday. And you were just kind of done with me. Like, you were, like, posting on Instagram and writing in the family chat. And every time I tried to solo, Are you mad at me or something? Like, every time I tried to solo communicate with you, I was brutally rebuffed.
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A
So I posted one thing of my siete pizzas on Instagram. People thought I was making seven pizzas. So that made me chuckle.
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B
And I also responded to that story. You didn't respond to me back because.
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A
Like, texting you or calling you back, like, it's just, like, a wormhole where that requires me in a good way. Like, then I'm on my phone for a while. Like, I'm talking to you on the phone, but I'm like, with my kids, and I just don't want to be on my phone. So, yes, I could shoot off a text.
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B
So I'm a burden.
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A
I could shoot off a text to reply to the chat. I could, you know, post something to Instagram. But, like, I want to. When I talk to you, like, I'm sad. And I would. And usually I would call you back in the evening, but I saw Wicked.
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B
I've actually been, like, largely ignored by you and your family all week. I texted you and your husband separately, together, asking the boys to call me. What the hell is going on? You guys are obviously, like, mad at me as a family.
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A
We're not. I mean, Saturday, like, I was with Dana, and we were like, like, when we're doing stuff, like, unless I'm sitting on the couch, like, bored with the boys, like, it's not a great time to call you. And I don't want to be, like, talking to you while playing with them. That's, like, distracted. So I just like to talk to you when I'm on my own. But I was with them all day long.
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B
I'm just saying it has been noted, like, the lack of communication.
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A
I'm so sorry, but you were trying to get a hold of me. What can I do you for?
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B
Well, I wanted to show you these new tings I got at Bloomingdale's. I bought so much new stuff, me and Ben started. Ben the other day was like, we need to clean out the kitchen. I said, what did you say?
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A
I knew it.
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B
I agree. Like, I have always been maintaining the kitchen, and I've just sort of given up these last couple of weeks. Months. I'm tired, I'm lazy, and, like, every time I do Something, he undoes it. So whatever. Yeah, but I guess, I guess I didn't, you know, maintain for a couple of weeks and now he's feeling like it's a little cluttered and so he, we cleaned out like two big cabinets. We're going to go cabinet by cabinet. Each cabinet is like a monstrosity. And when he did such a good job getting rid of so many things that we went to blooming as we bought new things, he needed a couple of new pans. We needed. Oh, I got some. I'm really like such a woman now. Those like air sucking containers that you put like flour in, you know, like you push the button.
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A
The OXO ones.
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B
Oxo, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what else did I get? Oh, oh, and this is what I texted you a link. I saw this fabulous collection of Judaica.
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A
Oh, I saw that. You sent me that. And I, I didn't.
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B
I bought a challah plate, Shabbat can, Shabbat candles, a new menorah, a knife. All a part of his very like Dolce Vita Judaica collection.
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A
Were you sending it to me? Because it's of the elk of dinnerware that we like. But it's Judaica.
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B
Yeah. And it was reasonably priced. So if you're. Yeah, that's really in the market for Judaica. I was just like spreading the wealth. You wouldn't know that because you didn't respond.
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A
Yeah, well, I haven't been in a place to chat like until right now.
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B
Well, that's good because we have so much to catch up on and I do feel as though I'm so happy I could melt if we don't start talking about Wicked.
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A
Okay, so should we get into it? Is there any other odds and ends to wrap up? I don't think so. No.
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B
I like slept eight and spent money all weekend. Like that's literally all I did.
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A
Oh, I did. I did drop some coin yesterday at the mall. I went to the mall on Friday and it was literally the most unsuccessful like thing ever. It was just. I couldn't find what I wanted. I tried out an outfit. It was cute. I was like, but now it's expensive. So I left. I just bought like 12 lipsticks at Macy's. I was like, forget it.
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B
Not 1212.
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A
Because they could sell Kylie cosmetics.
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B
Wow.
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A
Then all weekend I was thinking about that outfit I tried on. I was like, I really need it. I'm going to Dallas. I have like a big day in Dallas, like doing some work stuff. So we went back to the mall yesterday. And I just walked in, I'm like, give me the skirt, give me the sweater, give me the order the tights. Yep, we'll take it all. I want the Gucci Sanghas. I just, I went nuts.
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B
She went nuts.
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A
So I tried to conserve.
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B
I'm proud of. I'm actually proud of you.
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A
Yeah. Shout out Tim Kai now shout out.
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B
Some kind Jared things. I am ready to dive in because I got to get to the first story. So if it's okay with you, I'll, I'll allow it.
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A
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A
Thank you, Sasha. Yeah. Beautiful concept.
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B
Okay, so starting now, if you want to avoid Wicked spoilers, check the timestamps and just go straight to story number two.
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A
Yes. However, I feel like everybody knows the story of Wicked, so the spoilers won't really be in, like us talking about the storyline, but just like, if you want to see what your own original thoughts would be before hearing ours and not let us influence the way that you see the movie, skip to story to check the timestamps. But the news is that Wicked has soared past the Gladiator 2 at the box office, earning the best opening ever for a Broadway film adaptation.
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B
People are really trying to make it like Gladiator and Wicked coming out. Coming out on the same weekend is like a Barbenheimer. No, Nobody's seen Gladiator, and I heard it was horrible, by the way.
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A
It looks good. Gladiator.
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B
I love that Palmez cow. I just love that boy.
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A
I think maybe I've seen the first Gladiator pieces of it. So I'm not like a Gladiator swirly, but I would see this one. It's like historical fiction.
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B
Is it? Yes.
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A
The Roman Empire.
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B
I know nothing. And, like, I actually don't care, by the way.
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A
Like, I like the energy for Glicked, except I think the thing is, it's like, it's unwarranted. Men want to see Wicked too. I think with the Barbie movie, it was like, the boys will see Oppenheimer, the girls will see Barbie, but, like, the guys want to see Wicked too.
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B
Ben.
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A
Okay, first of all, I saw his video.
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B
Ben absolutely loved it. And Ben, I didn't know. He was, like, on our way. He's like, I didn't want to tell you this until we were almost there. I've never seen the show, the Broadway show, which is crazy because Ben grew up in the city, and Ben's mom loves, like, growing.
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A
Growing up. Claudia.
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B
They went to a. It was so crazy. I was so shocked. He was like, it doesn't have anything to do with the wizard of Oz. It was really crazy.
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A
So I guess experience was, like, seeing the Broadway show for the first time.
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B
So fresh, and he was speechless. Like, we both. At the very. Like, when it ended, we just, like, we were like. We couldn't speak. We were genuinely speechless. Ben did not stop talking about it the entire ride home. The entire night after playing all the music, like, it's. Wicked is for everyone.
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A
Yeah, Wicked is for everyone. So let's dive into a recap. Ariana, time to recap overall thoughts. Like, it was amazing. It was incredibly done. Like, done to perfection. Like a feast for the eyes.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, the sets, everything. It was just, like, so beautiful. And then they chose, like, seriously the most talented people. And the storyline is all. There's a reason why it is, like, the most popular show on Broadway. Like, the fact that it's like Elf, Wicked, Witch of the west, origin, villain, origin story. But, like, the. The story that they've added to it, like, with Shiz and the friendship, like, it's just an amazing story that ties back to the wizard of Oz. And Zach was then telling me all of the ways that it tied because he's, like, telling me all these stuff about wizard of Oz. Like, I don't know if this is a spoiler for, like, part two, but I don't think there are spoilers at this point. But this was that he's.
- [21:18]
B
I think it is. I know what you're gonna say, and I think it is that Dorothy is, like, in it, she's.
- [21:25]
A
No, that's not what I was gonna say. No, I was gonna say, like, do you know that Bach is the scarecrow?
- [21:29]
B
Yeah, of course. And Fiero is the lion man. Yeah.
- [21:34]
A
And then the lion, he said, is the bear cub they released in the woods.
- [21:37]
B
Well, they did nod to the wizard of Oz a couple of times, like that opening sequence, but then it said wicked, part one. That was wizard coded. And then the little lion cub peeking his head out of the basket, that was like Toto in Wizard of Oz. I loved how much they, like, really subtly nodded to the original. It was.
- [21:55]
A
It made me realize I know nothing about the wizard of Oz. Because then Zach was like, oh, and so the sister's the one who has the house fall on her.
- [22:02]
B
That fucking sister.
- [22:03]
A
Is that right? He knows.
- [22:04]
B
Yes. Yeah. No, he's right. That sister, first of all. Okay, let's just talk. Okay? I want to break it down, like, person by person, because to me, I had the biggest. The biggest impact on me from the film was Ari.
- [22:18]
A
Yeah.
- [22:18]
B
We've always known she can sing, and we see her act in, like, kids stuff. We know she can't not act. But I was not prepared to be as blown away by her as I was. I mean, there's Oscar buzz. Like, it's all warranted to me. She completely stole the show. And Glinda, like, is. I mean, Ari gets. Is getting nominated as supporting actress. Like, it's not.
- [22:38]
A
I think she's in this movie. She was kind of more the main character.
- [22:42]
B
Agree.
- [22:42]
A
She opens the movie. She's in the closing sing. The only song. The only big song she doesn't sing on is, like, the Wizard. And I. And I thought she was just as main. It's really. Or if anything, like 50 50. So it's surprising that she's a supporting character. Maybe they didn't want to compete against each other. Yeah. We always knew she could sing. Like. And also, the thing about Ari's voice is not only can she sing, but she can imitate anyone's voice. She doesn't Fallon all the time. Like, so she could have literally copy and pasted Christian Chenowitz.
- [23:08]
B
Yeah.
- [23:08]
A
And it wasn't even about that. It was, like, when there was, like, a cast ensemble, like, dancing. Dancing. I'm only looking at Ariana. Like, they spend all these money on extras. Like, didn't eat it. I'm, like, literally could not take my eyes off of her.
- [23:20]
B
Agreed. She radiated. She was supreme. Like, funny. She made me cry so many times. Like, when they. That scene at the Oz Dust where they, like, finally lay down their arms. Like, I was literally sobbing.
- [23:33]
A
I think everyone's, like, not okay when.
- [23:35]
B
She gets on the train, Elphaba, like, before Glinda goes on, and they just, like, say goodbye to each other. And then she writes that note, like, I hope you get. Like, I was sobbing. Like, Ari has. She's so sweet. And I actually think that's who she really, really is. Like, that part was so genuine. She just kept making me cry. Like, and then when she wouldn't get on the broomstick, like. Like, I understood her in that moment. Like, yeah, she was brilliant. Like, she completely stole the show. Her singing was amazing, but I was so blown away by how funny she was, how genuine she was. Like, she really was as an actress. I can't remember a time where I saw better acting. Honestly.
- [24:09]
A
It was supreme while also being, like, very theatrical.
- [24:12]
B
Yes, yes.
- [24:13]
A
And then it wasn't until, like, maybe it was when Popular came on that then she started to remind me of Kristin Chen was in the world. I was reminded, like, of how quirky she was. And then when the two of them came out, Idina and Kristen, I'm reminded, like, seriously, how fucking crazy. Kristen Chen with this.
- [24:29]
B
Did you know that they were in the movie?
- [24:31]
A
No. I saw that someone said Margot Ashrey. Not someone. She was like, did anyone know, like, that the. The people that are in. And then I saw someone say, there are spoilers on the album. So I was like, who could possibly be in it that, like, would make sense? I was like. I thought for a second then, but I. I didn't think that would be such a big deal. I thought it was, like, a really cute nod to the original, but it didn't, like, knock me out of my seat.
- [24:50]
B
Well, I read a spoiler on Twitter and I was so annoyed because I wanted to know, like, what my genuine reaction would have been. Ben was Ben, even though he's never seen Wicked, like, knew what they were to the film. I was like, oh, yeah, it was so sweet. I'm glad that they were in it. Because they really put it on the map a thousand percent. And I loved that they were in it. I love that they're all, like, seemingly friends. I thought it was really well done within the context. Even though that scene with, like, the play within the Emerald City was kind of my least favorite part, I was really glad that they were in it.
- [25:18]
A
Yeah. And by then, I'm like, it's getting late, you know. Yeah, Grandma's got to go home.
- [25:22]
B
And then I want to talk about Cynthia, because I, like, actually, yeah, had chills. The wizard and I was so spectacular. And very similarly to, like, Ariana and Kristen Chen. It's really hard not to compare to the original songs. And I thought that so many instances, especially in the wizard and I and Divine Gravity, Cynthia put, like, her own little spin on certain riffs, little notes, changes. And I thought it was so well done. I mean, I. We knew her voice, like, was whatever, but I was really shocked, especially because she's saying in an accent she's British. And Ben was shocked to find out that she was British. She did an amazing accent. I forgot that she was. I was. And I feel like Elphaba, like, you slowly fall in love with her throughout the film because she's definitely, like, for business, and she has. She has this chip on her shoulder, and I totally get it, but she's just like, kind of this dark cloud. And then you really start to understand her and learn a way. Feel like you love Glinda from the very second. And then, like, the longer the movie goes on, you see, like, Glinda's kind of flawed and she's not strong. Yeah, she's not strong, and she's not like, this moral compass. And with Elphaba, like, I feel like it's a slow roll. And then by the end, like, you totally love her and you totally get her. And I just, like, I was so moved by Elphaba. Like that scene at the Ozdest where she's crying. Like, there's a couple of scenes where Elphaba is crying. And the acting was just supreme. Like, I was so. I was moved. I was touched. Like, I was. I was everything. Every word, every emotion.
- [26:45]
A
Yeah. I thought Cynthia, like, really, she made Elphaba adorable. Like, that's really the way I felt. Like, she was just, like, so cute. Also, like, Elphaba, she's literally the wicked witch of the witch. Like, she's this big bitch on campus. And, like, Cynthia just, like, made her just a girl, you know, Like, I want to fit into. Like, I want to look Pretty, Like, I want to go to the dance. Like, I like this boy. Like, she just made her, like, adorable.
- [27:06]
B
I also loved, I don't know how I never even put it together that, like, yes, her skin is green, but, like, Cynthia being black, like, it actually, I think added a layer of depth to the film. Like, she's being made fun of for her skin. Like, and, yeah, her. Whose skin is green? Nobody. Like, I actually think. And no, I don't think any of the leading ladies on Broadway have ever been black. So, like, I think it added another layer of depth to the whole film. That was brilliant. And those kids at SHIZ were such fucking losers. Pissing me off. Like, Bowen Yang, he was great, but, like, his character was such a fudgeing loser. But I think it's such a great social commentary and how, like, the public, like, everybody just thinks what everybody else thinks. Everybody's a follower. And to be an original and to be different, like, is so unique and so hard and. And the way everybody just thought what Glinda thought, like, I. I loved it, but those kids were pissing me off. And the way they were being so dramatic, like, about, isn't this a school? And I was confused. Is everybody at this school like, a magician? Like, no.
- [27:58]
A
Nobody has powers, by the way. Nobody in the realm.
- [28:00]
B
But they know about powers, right?
- [28:01]
A
Yeah, they live in, like a magical land. But about that her skin being green, like, they were.
- [28:11]
B
I thought they were overreacting.
- [28:12]
A
Small minded munchkins. They are like munchkins.
- [28:16]
B
So small minded.
- [28:18]
A
There were a couple, like, distracting things about the movie that I was very aware that, like, this is a movie. Bach. Claudia. Claudia. And I just want to say, like, I thought Jonathan Bailey was amazing. Like, I actually wouldn't change. Dancing Through Life was a little too Backstreet Boys. I like.
- [28:34]
B
Oh, my God. I completely disagree.
- [28:36]
A
I loved it. But, like, it was the most changed song I thought.
- [28:40]
B
Okay, well, Dancing Through Life. I had a Be our guest moment.
- [28:44]
A
Oh.
- [28:44]
B
Do you know what I mean?
- [28:45]
A
That was like, I remember growing up, like, on my itunes, like, of all the Wicked songs, like, that was my number one most played. Like, that's my favorite one. That's why, like, I think you should wear this hat to the party tonight. It really resonates with me. And they took that out. I. I don't want to go there.
- [28:56]
B
Disgraceful.
- [28:58]
A
Also say Jonathan Bailey, like, was amazing. However, it's just, like, so crazy. It was like Bach was seriously the only straight guy on set and Ari fell in love with him. And it's like, imagine if Fiero, like, had been a guy that maybe Ari could have fallen in love with.
- [29:09]
B
I mean, I absolutely fell in love with Jonathan Bailey. I think he is so handsome. I think he is so talented. And I was absolutely dazzled by his dancing through life sequence. So when I saw Beauty and the Beast, I tried to. I saw it in theaters and I. The Beauty and the Beast remake, I was live action. I was so dazzled by it. And I remember when I got home, I was trying to explain to you guys how insane it was. And especially during the Be Our Guest sequence, which was just so big and bright and colorful. My face. I don't even know what my face looked like, but I know I just looked like an absolute freak, like, with my mouth, smile, like, eyes wide. And I had that with Dancing Through Life. I thought he was incredible. I loved the library sequence with, like, the turning. And, yes, I agree that Bach was a distraction and that the song was different. I'm not as familiar with the original song, so I'm not, like, as connected to it or, like, protective over it. I absolutely love that sequence.
- [30:01]
A
I. I loved it. It was just the song that was probably the most changed. Yeah, it just had more of, like, a poppy Shawn Mendes feel.
- [30:10]
B
But he was amazing.
- [30:11]
A
He was amazing. Like, he was such a good actor. And, like, they. He was funny and he sings amazing, and he danced amazing. I'm just saying, like, if he. If the actor were, like, a straight, like, maybe Ari would have fallen in love with him and, like, not spongebob.
- [30:24]
B
I also felt as though he was.
- [30:27]
A
A literal munchkin and Ari's, like, falling in love with.
- [30:30]
B
She said, that's my man. Like, I found his character also to be so unnecessary. Like.
- [30:40]
A
Well, I mean, they needed characters also. I do think that, like, later on, the betrayal of, like, Bach and Nessa will be a bit of something.
- [30:49]
B
Nessa was seriously. I don't name a worst sister in history. Like, everyone's so mean to Alphabet and all. Nessa is like, please stop embarrassing. And literally, they grow up with their abusive dad only to Alphabet. Like, you never stand up for your sister. She's just awful. And she's, like, so afraid of being, like, embarrassed to the point where it's like, you're actually embarrassing me now. Yeah, I hated her.
- [31:12]
A
Yeah. Also, like, I didn't understand, so why Elphaba is green. Her mom was sleeping with someone who was, like, drinking green juice.
- [31:19]
B
Jackie. What do you want to spoil it?
- [31:23]
A
Well, then Zach said her mom was sleeping with the wizard. Yeah, but the wizard has no powers.
- [31:28]
B
The wizard is her dad.
- [31:30]
A
That's what Zach was saying. I was like, oh, okay, I miss that. And then he was like, you didn't hear. In the song, he's literally, like, saying, I'm your dad.
- [31:35]
B
I'm like, that green drink. Okay.
- [31:38]
A
But like, he was sipping on that perp. He was sitting on that green. But that, like, he doesn't have powers. So, like, the powers just came from the elixir.
- [31:48]
B
The green juice, the elixir.
- [31:50]
A
I don't know. I'm like, I'm not. And then all of a sudden, she can read that, like, ancient scribe because she's special. He's sipping on that green. But it's special chemical. It's chemical. It's not magical. That's all I'm saying.
- [32:02]
B
I guess we'll learn more about her chemical makeup.
- [32:05]
A
So you knew, like, when do we find out that the wizard is her dad?
- [32:08]
B
I think in part two, we find.
- [32:10]
A
Out, like, literally, they need a new trope. Like Darth Vader, I'm your father. Like, it's always the daddy.
- [32:16]
B
I am trying to, like, criticize the film. I really don't have many. I didn't love Jeff Goldblum.
- [32:23]
A
We're just not jealous Goldblum, girlies. He wasn't cast for us.
- [32:27]
B
He wasn't. I thought Michelle Yeoh was incredible.
- [32:29]
A
Yeah. I didn't know if she was good or bad. I forgot, like, the.
- [32:32]
B
I forgot about that too. So that was, like, an actual plot twist for me.
- [32:36]
A
Yeah.
- [32:36]
B
I haven't seen the play in years.
- [32:39]
A
No. I think I only. I saw it, what, maybe twice, but I didn't remember, like, the storyline. And I guess, like, when I would think back on it, like, yeah, it was about a college. She's university.
- [32:50]
B
And I'm trying to think what songs remain for part two. I have been changed besides that.
- [32:59]
A
But then also, like, when they say.
- [33:04]
B
Oh, no good deed.
- [33:05]
A
Yeah.
- [33:06]
B
I'm not that girl.
- [33:08]
A
She's saying that this time.
- [33:09]
B
Oh, okay.
- [33:13]
A
I'm glad it was in two parts. Like, I needed to get up after three. My butt was really hurting. And I wouldn't have taken anything out. Any piece of dialogue, any song. Zach was saying he was, like, shocked there wasn't an original song. I thought that was an interesting point. I feel like if there were to be one, it will be in the second part.
- [33:29]
B
Because part two is definitely lacking the more recognizable songs. All the ones that you guys know from Glee and are in part one.
- [33:35]
A
Claudia. I forgot about all this shit with the animals.
- [33:38]
B
Yeah. Me too. It felt a little silly, but. Oh, my God. I could not focus until I figured out who the professor was. Peter Dinklage. And I'm literally like, who is that voice? Who is that voice? Peter Dinklage.
- [33:47]
A
But I refuse to Google it. In the theater.
- [33:48]
B
Yeah.
- [33:49]
A
When we left Peter Dinklage, I just.
- [33:52]
B
Want to say I behaved so well in the theater. I did not sing one lick, one bar, and the guy next to me. It was one of the theaters where you can, like, order food and cocktails. It's like one of those fancy ones. Oh, my God. I got a bottle of wine in a cocktail. He was singing. It definitely wasn't his first time because he was, like, pointing out to his friend, like, fun things. I wanted to kill him. And then he fell asleep. Like, she literally missed half the movie. I was so happy when he fell asleep.
- [34:10]
A
That's so funny. I didn't even feel inclined to sing because, like, I could. They were changing stuff. Like, I wanted to hear it the way they intended. And now I can sing along and enjoy.
- [34:19]
B
I also have to say, you guys know I hate when they, like, make things long. But they definitely intentionally stretched out, defying gravity.
- [34:26]
A
I said the same thing.
- [34:27]
B
Like, they. They added more unlimited and more dialogue.
- [34:32]
A
They kept stopping.
- [34:33]
B
I did not mind.
- [34:34]
A
I did not mind.
- [34:35]
B
I loved that they did. They never wanted it to end, and neither did I. And I knew that, like, when she did her, it was going to end right after that. And, like, it was even better than I imagined. Like, the fade to black. It was amazing. I loved that they made it extra long. Thank you.
- [34:51]
A
Oh, no. I kept being like, come on, hit it. I want to hit the. Get to the note. Like, I'm, like, itching to, like, hear the next part of the song. And when she's, like, in the sky, it's an insane scene. Her cape is going. She's like.
- [35:02]
B
And by the way, don't forget who controls the weather, right, Michelle.
- [35:06]
A
But so she does her. Oh, I thought then it should have, like, gone right to black. They did, like.
- [35:11]
B
I agree.
- [35:12]
A
Three more cuts. They showed Ari. Then they showed her flying again. On the soundtrack, there's still, like, 22 more seconds.
- [35:17]
B
Good. I didn't want it to end.
- [35:18]
A
I think he did. No, they really, like, made a good.
- [35:22]
B
I could have watched a whole three hour movie of just that song.
- [35:25]
A
The thing is, like, I will enjoy watching that back and, like, watching, like, clips of it and stuff. But, like, in that moment, I'm like, can we just get.
- [35:30]
B
Oh, no. I was like, I knew what they were doing, and I said, yes, keep going, John Chu.
- [35:35]
A
And they, like, stopping the song for her and Ari to talk. Like, also, I love. And this is obviously from the original movie, but, like, I don't know. I probably missed it or forgot. But, like, how Ari. How Glinda, like, really is responsible for her iconic look, look, cape, and the hat, and you don't even realize, like, you should wear the hat to the party tonight. Like, it's so important. Jermaine, why did he take. Why did he change that? I don't know.
- [35:56]
B
But then in the beginning, when, like, they're burning that big scarecrow of the witch and they have the classic cape and the hat that's, like, this look that Ari kind of made for her. And at first, not in good faith.
- [36:07]
A
Right.
- [36:07]
B
But then. But then, okay, that scene, like, I know it was definitely stretched out, but where they're actually, you know, I really was holding space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity because I don't think I realized that the song starts out, I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy now I hope you're happy how you've lost your brain forever. I hope you think you're clever. They're, like, mad at each other for the decisions that they're making. But then at the end of the song, I hope you're happy now that you're choosing this. I really hope it brings you bliss. I really hope you get it and you don't live to regret it. It's a coming to understand somebody else's choices. Yeah. And Elphaba's not mad or judging Ari for not going. And Ari's like, listen, you got to do what you got to do. But you know that life on the run, being, like, this big, controversial figure, it's not for everyone. And some people aren't strong enough for it. And Glinda is not.
- [36:46]
A
Yeah. No, no, no. But she wants Elphaba to be happy, to do it. Like, I hope it all goes well for you. No, it's. It's so. It's true. A lot of, like, divine gravity and wizard, and I, like. They play off of each other, like, unlimited.
- [37:01]
B
Yes. Another great scene was Loathing, where they're hating each other as roommates and they're just, like, talking in the letters. I. I love. I love that scene. I remember from the Broadway play, and I thought it was so well done. The set design was also incredible. Like, the room was exactly how I would have pictured it. Like, really? I have. I mean, Ari's wardrobe was insane. Like, yeah, it was. It was spectacular. Like, I would love to shake the hand of John M. Chu. Like, he thinks he did that. Who even is he? I don't even know. Everyone's talking about him like he's James Cameron. This is the first time I've ever heard his name. It won't be the last. No.
- [37:35]
A
Well, Wicked part.
- [37:36]
B
Brilliant.
- [37:37]
A
Plus, he's doing the Britney movie.
- [37:39]
B
Is he? Oh, brilliant. Like, that's right.
- [37:42]
A
Like, everyone was doubly excited when they.
- [37:45]
B
Make a movie about us one day. Give it to John.
- [37:47]
A
Yeah. And when Wicked Part 2 comes out, I'll see it earlier in the day. And if you want to spend some marketing budget on getting us to dress.
- [37:54]
B
Up, I am so glad you had the thought to see it this weekend, because if I had waited, I didn't even know what I was missing.
- [38:02]
A
Like, yeah. And now I get to listen to the soundtrack. I'm having a whole renaissance with the soundtrack and songs you already know, but they're in the new style, so it's just, like, fun and exciting and. Do you think you're more of an Elphaba or Glinda? Zach was asking me in the car.
- [38:15]
B
It's a really good question. I think that, like, we all like to think that we're Elphabas. Like, that we're, you know, morally tough and. But, you know, when it comes down to, like, making really hard decisions, you're to throw your whole life away for a cause. You know, not everyone can do that. Do you know what I mean? And that's why, like I said, it's like, it's. It's easy for us to judge Glinda, but a lot of us would be Glinda. Yeah.
- [38:36]
A
Situation.
- [38:36]
B
You're going to throw your whole life away. You're going to become this, like, woman on the run who. Everybody hates. This Wicked. I don't know. I. I. A part of me understands her. So, Yeah, I like to think I'm an Alphabet. Throw it all away for the cot for. For good. I don't know that I would.
- [38:53]
A
Yeah, it's a good question. He was like, do you think of you and Claudia, like, who's Elphaba? Who's Glinda?
- [38:58]
B
I was like, I think you're like, okay, if we're bringing it down to the two of us, like, you're probably more Elphaba and I'm more Glinda. Not, not aesthetically, no.
- [39:05]
A
No. At first I was like, I guess I'm Glinda and, like, all pink and. And she's Alphabet. And he was like, really? I think you're Alphabet and she's Glinda. Like. And I was. He made some good points. Honestly. He's like, wait.
- [39:15]
B
Like, he thinks I'm.
- [39:16]
A
Who thinks you're Glinda? Like, and so popular. And, like, out.
- [39:20]
B
No, I agree. And that. And, like.
- [39:22]
A
And he's like.
- [39:22]
B
I mean, it's hard. I don't know if I'm supposed to take that as an insult, Zach, but I agree.
- [39:26]
A
No, like, he insulted kind of both of us in his descriptions. And he was like, to me, like, you're different. Like, you're. But I do think, ideologically, I'm an Elphaba, for sure.
- [39:39]
B
Ideologically, yes. And so ideologically, I like to think that I would be an Elphaba, but I don't know that I've never. I've never been put in that situation. Like, do I want to defy gravity or not? I don't know.
- [39:48]
A
But then also, it's like, what does Glinda do in the second half? Like, maybe she's, like, working for Elphaba behind the scenes, like, stopping them on their hunt. Like, you know, throwing. Casting them.
- [39:57]
B
Yeah.
- [39:57]
A
In a different direction. So, like, maybe she's working for the cause, doing the good work, but, like, not putting her whole self out there. So let's. I'm leaving space for Glinda to be a good faith operator. However, like, no one mourns the wicked. She's literally dancing on her grave.
- [40:12]
B
Yeah. And then she's the one who throws the torch.
- [40:15]
A
Yeah.
- [40:16]
B
Yeah. I'm really excited for part two. Just to sort of, like, type some loose ends, and it's gonna be a whole last year, so I'll see you guys then.
- [40:22]
A
Yeah. But, like, I feel like I have enough right now.
- [40:24]
B
Me, too.
- [40:25]
A
To get me through, and I think.
- [40:27]
B
I got to take Ben to see the play.
- [40:29]
A
That's really sweet.
- [40:31]
B
Right?
- [40:31]
A
Yeah.
- [40:31]
B
He loved it. He's having, like, a cultural awakening. This whole thing. He had no idea this world existed, and now he's been thrown. Thrown in.
- [40:39]
A
And it honestly, like, it makes wizard of Oz look like a piece of shite.
- [40:42]
B
Like, Jackie, I thought that. I was actually thinking on my way to work, like, do I want to open this can of worms? Like, the wizard of Oz could never know.
- [40:49]
A
Like, I haven't seen it in a while. I just feel like it. It doesn't go that deep, you know? It's just.
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B
But they weren't trying. They were just making. They didn't know.
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A
Like, they didn't know that someone was going to come in and, like, up and. And tell the story of their villain and make, you know, like, it just makes wizard vows look a little silly.
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B
Correct. Correct.
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A
We're off to see the wizard, though. And also, it's like, how much time is between all of this? Like, between Alpha Shiz and then, like, Elphaba dying? Like, how much?
- [41:19]
B
Well, what are they, like, 20, probably. How old do you think she is when she dies? I'd say, like 20 years. Because the wizard's still alive.
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A
I guess Glinda just doesn't age.
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B
Correct. Well, she obviously, I feel like, makes some deal with the wizard because she gets to be magical. She gets a wand.
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A
Right.
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B
And she didn't possess that.
- [41:35]
A
But the vernacular have shite.
- [41:38]
B
Melissa. What's her name? Michelle.
- [41:40]
A
Does Ms. Marble.
- [41:42]
B
Yeah.
- [41:43]
A
Yeah, that's true.
- [41:46]
B
Not the head mistress being the bearded lady. Did you put that together?
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A
Singing?
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B
Yeah. I took. I realized halfway through, when they're taking Peter Dinklage out back to, like, shoot him, I realized in that moment after, like, a couple of scenes that she was in that that's who that was. I didn't recognize her without her beard.
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A
I recognized her immediately.
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B
I didn't.
- [42:06]
A
But she better be singing in Part two, otherwise.
- [42:08]
B
Weird. No, she's like, one of the greatest singers. And by the way, people, I saw someone say this on TikTok, and I completely agree with it. I don't feel as though I've had this sort of reaction and, like, excitement and, like, takeaway from a movie musical since the Greatest Showman. And before that, it was Beauty and the Beast.
- [42:25]
A
Yeah, before that, Hairspray.
- [42:27]
B
But the really, the crazy thing about the Greatest Showman was that it was completely original. Like, this is a. And it's. That's what's exciting about this, because it's the first adaptation. Like, Beauty and the Beast is an adaptation of an adaptation. Like, they redo it every couple of years. Beauty, Wicked. This is the first one, which is why it was such a big deal. But Greatest Showman was based on nothing.
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A
No, it's like, I gave you a perfect routine, and they executed it perfectly. Thankfully, they didn't call in Sparky Pilastery, but they had a great script, great talent, actresses budget for days, and they executed. But you know what, these days, like, they don't always execute. So we have to.
- [43:02]
B
Some of the worst movies are the biggest budget, right?
- [43:04]
A
So, like, we have to acknowledge it and appreciate it. It wasn't a given. They could have really, like, made it shite.
- [43:12]
B
Now I had this conversation with Ben, do you think that Ariana and Cynthia got paid the same amount?
- [43:18]
A
I think in the spirit of sisterhood, yeah. I think so much about this. And also I had so many thoughts then about, like, the press thing and how, like, they marketed it. And it's like, it's really true that other movies, like, when there's a two. Like, the two main characters are usually romantic, so they, like, kind of try and make you think they're in love. And, like, they took this strategy of, like, we're gonna bring the friendship of Glinda and, yeah, Elphaba, like, and. And bring that to press. Which seems obvious, but, like, actually isn't. It was very much a choice. And I wonder if they were bricks when Ari and spongebob came out and everybody hated them and they were like, this could seriously ruin the movie.
- [43:52]
B
Like, right.
- [43:52]
A
If the movie had come out a year before. Like, if. Yeah, if it hadn't died down a.
- [43:56]
B
Little in the midst of.
- [43:58]
A
People might have, like, not wanted to go because of all of that. Like, I wonder if people were quaking, like, oh, my God, these two are going to ruin the movie.
- [44:06]
B
Okay, so I had seen this, but I didn't want to say it until I just read it about the salaries, because I was shocked when I heard this. Ready? So the salaries for Wicked have not been confirmed, but reports indicate that Erivo earned $1 million for the role of Elphaba, and that makes her far from the best paid member of the cast, with Ariana Grande reportedly making $15 million and Michelle Yeoh and Jeff Goldblum each making $2 million.
- [44:25]
A
I saw that Jeff Goldblum made $2 million.
- [44:27]
B
I saw that Jeff Goldblum made double of what Cynthia did. And I think that Ari getting more money than Cynthia, while for people, is really shocking, when you boil it down to, like, business, it makes a lot of sense. Like, Ariana is this global, and this movie is global. Like, people are talking about in every country. A lot of that has to do with Ariana, the people she brings to this role, the younger people she brings to this role. I understand why she got paid more. And I know, like, I was familiar with Cynthia Erivo, and I think people who, like, operate within, you know, pop culture are. But she's not globally known. She is now, but I think Jeff Goldblum getting paid more than her, like, is actually disgraceful. He was in it for one scene.
- [45:00]
A
No. And, like, anybody could have done what he did. Any, like, goofy.
- [45:06]
B
Same with Michelle Yeoh. Like, she's great.
- [45:08]
A
I'M shopped. James Corden wasn't the Wizard.
- [45:12]
B
Honestly, it's such a good call because he's perfect for it.
- [45:16]
A
He would have been great.
- [45:18]
B
He would have been great. I love that. So the disparity. The disparity between Cynthia and Ari, like, makes sense.
- [45:25]
A
It makes sense. Like, Ari brings so much in the movie. Like, just her amount of followers on Instagram. Like, yeah. You get paid more for that. That. It's just like, I wonder if that affects their friendship a little bit.
- [45:35]
B
It's definitely weird. I wonder also if these deals are the same for Part two, or do you renegotiate?
- [45:40]
A
You know, I don't think so. Part two is filmed.
- [45:43]
B
Right. It was probably one big deal. They probably got the same. Paid the same for each film.
- [45:46]
A
Yeah. But they probably have, like, royalties.
- [45:48]
B
Percent so I. I just personally don't feel like Jeff Goldblum. I would have given his $2 million to Cynthia. Like, I didn't think that he was really.
- [45:56]
A
Yeah.
- [45:57]
B
Worth it. I thought Michelle Yeoh was great, but I don't think she deserved to be paid more than. She was barely in it. No.
- [46:02]
A
And does she sing? She's like, in the wizard and I. She's, like, talking. Singing in the beginning. But is she a singer?
- [46:07]
B
Like, as a person? I don't know.
- [46:08]
A
I don't think so. Not that it matters. She. She carried a tune.
- [46:13]
B
Yeah. This person responded. I'm gonna steal this junk pile. Jennifer comment she wrote, I'm not surprised that Ariana got paid more. I'm surprised that Cynthia got paid so little.
- [46:21]
A
Yeah.
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B
For such a big movie.
- [46:23]
A
Yeah. A lot of work, a lot of talent.
- [46:25]
B
But this is something you just take like you want it.
- [46:27]
A
She's a title character. This will change her entire career. Like, I honestly would do it for free.
- [46:32]
B
So they're obviously going to perform at the Oscars. Right?
- [46:35]
A
Wow. They should perform. They'll. Maybe they'll perform. Defying Gravity might be too big and, like, too risky. They could do Loathing. That would be amazing.
- [46:43]
B
It would be. But it has to be a song that has both of them. Right. Or just Cynthia performs well also.
- [46:48]
A
It depends what songs get nominated. Sorry.
- [46:50]
B
By the way, also, Ari could sing. I wonder if Ari was disappointed, because you were the one who told me that she tried out for both roles. I wonder if she wanted one more than the other.
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A
She wanted Elphaba more. Her whole life, she wanted to be Elphaba.
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B
Because when you think of Wicked, you think of Elphaba like, that's the main character. Even though after watching the film. I wouldn't say that. But she is the main character and she has all the good songs. And I mean, Ari's version of the wizard and I like the. Was at Wicked's 25th anniversary on NBC. Seriously, one of the best covers. Go listen to it on, like, she would have slayed the house down Boots. I imagine she was disappointed when she didn't get the role that she wanted. But, like, it's really the definition of everything happens for a reason. Because I don't think she would have been as good as Alphabet as she was as Glinda, honestly.
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A
Yeah, no, she always had, like, Elphaba in her heart. And when Cynthia's singing Defying Gravity, like, I'm just, like, watching, like. Like, she wants to sing so badly. And then when I didn't realize, like, Glinda sings on it too, and she finally gets to sing Divine Gravity, I'm, like, so happy for her.
- [47:43]
B
Me too. But I think it really worked out for the best. Honestly.
- [47:45]
A
It did. I mean, she was so Glinda.
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B
Yeah. I couldn't really. I don't see her as Elphaba.
- [47:52]
A
I think she would. I mean, because she's, like, literally become Glinda in her life. She would have become. After she had the dark hair and she'd be like, you know, wearing all black all the time. And she would have totally leaned into it. She always saw herself as an Elphaba.
- [48:05]
B
Yeah. I mean, her. Her covers of Wicked, anytime she's ever saying it. Sick. Sick.
- [48:12]
A
Yeah. So definitely get your ass.
- [48:16]
B
It is worth it.
- [48:17]
A
Yeah. Just, like, try and find the time that doesn't bring you home. At 11:45, your two loaves of sourdough are three hours overproofed. And you got to start shaping, you know, shaping at midnight, it's not where you want to be.
- [48:28]
B
It's never a good time when you're shaping at midnight. No.
- [48:32]
A
But the loves actually came out party. Shockingly.
- [48:35]
B
That's so great.
- [48:36]
A
Three hours overproof, like, in sourdough years. That's a really long time.
- [48:42]
B
Okay, we'll move on. Whilst trying not to keep talking about Wicked, but who knows?
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A
Who knows? Okay, so our next story. Even though everything really just, like, who gives a fuck? Our next story. Oh, this is really sweet news. Kylie Kelsey is pregnant, expecting baby number four with her husband, Jason Kelsey. So they announced their pregnancy in a really sweet way. They took a picture of their three daughters, like, crying, screaming, laughing, saying, I feel like we captured a very accurate representation of how each of the girls feels about getting another Sister. At least Ellie. Mom and dad are on the same page because Ellie was smiling. So they are having a fourth daughter.
- [49:18]
B
Okay. Like, literally us. I'm obsessed. So happy for them. Like, four daughters. What's better than that? Okay. Or it's the judices. Right?
- [49:25]
A
There's four daughters there too. Yeah, there's four daughters there.
- [49:27]
B
No, it's really iconic. Quad. Quadruplet daughters. The judices, the Asharis, and the Kelsey.
- [49:34]
A
Kelsey's really, really cute. It's, like, so crazy that Jason Kelsey has four girls when he's, like, the man in the country.
- [49:41]
B
It's really crazy. And I know that, like, that's how statistics work.
- [49:44]
A
Like, it's 50.
- [49:45]
B
50. A boy or a girl. But, like, what are the odds?
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A
Yeah. Yeah, it's really cute. Of course, the lurd. Like, the photo.
- [49:52]
B
Yeah.
- [49:52]
A
It does, like, make you wonder, like, what's. What's next for Taylor and Travis. Right.
- [49:57]
B
Does anybody else feel, like. What's her name? Kylie. Sorry. Oh, my God. Kylie and Taylor, like, don't like each other.
- [50:07]
A
I don't.
- [50:07]
B
Not trying to, like, cause drama. Women against women. I just feel like they're so different.
- [50:11]
A
I don't feel like they don't like each other, but, like, they don't have to be best friends. And the odds that they're gonna be best friends are, like, so slim, and they are so different. And I think that that's, like, okay.
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B
You know, because I can see, like, Kylie not liking Taylor.
- [50:26]
A
Yeah. But I think Taylor makes it her mission for, like, people. Everyone like her or people who she cares to like her. Like, to like her. So she's probably, like, baking her cookies, like, knocking down her door. Like, and I'm sure Kylie, like, hates that even more. And they just, like.
- [50:37]
B
Yeah.
- [50:37]
A
Are two people speaking different languages. However, they have a common goal. And, like, Taylor's gonna make it work.
- [50:43]
B
Taylor's gonna make it work.
- [50:44]
A
Yeah. So I don't know, like, now.
- [50:46]
B
Yeah. Something like this. Like, definitely. You know, when an in law. When, like, your brother slash brother in law has a baby. Like, it definitely.
- [50:54]
A
Yeah. Uncle starts conversation. I was uncle of four. Like, if this was, like, you know, getting his. His juices flowing. They're flowing even more now is all.
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B
Oh, my God. Did I tell you that I watched the first episode? Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
- [51:08]
A
No.
- [51:09]
B
It was horrible. Like, and I really wanted to watch it. It was seriously so bad. Why are you smarter than a celebrity? Whatever it's called.
- [51:19]
A
Also, like, that doesn't make sense.
- [51:21]
B
But, Jackie, they were Moving so slow. We watched like 20 minutes and there had been one question. Like you tune in because you want to see like how the questions are. Like, oh my God, they were just moving so slow. Every time there was a question, we had to like phone a celebrity and tell me where you're from. Like, it's not Travis's fault. It's not Nikki Glazer's fault. It's not any of the celebrities fault. Not the lovely man who was a contestant. Get. It's a game show. Play the game.
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A
How is Travi so cute.
- [51:44]
B
Like I just know. Like he didn't know half the answers, you know?
- [51:47]
A
Yeah.
- [51:47]
B
The questions are hard.
- [51:48]
A
Like, yeah, I want to hear questions.
- [51:51]
B
I only got to like maybe seriously one or two questions. I knew one of them and I didn't know the other.
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A
I want to hear them.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Are you ready for our next story?
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B
Yes.
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A
Paris number three.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Paris Hilton's making headlines claiming that she's never had Botox or fillers saying she's all natural. So Paris Hilton is aging backwards on Natural. The 43 year old reality star and DJ claimed on the Zach Saying show on Friday that she is working on aging in reverse without the help of any cosmetic features. She said, I feel really proud that I'm all natural. I've stayed out of the sun. I've never done any botox injectables, no surgery, nothing. She explained that she has maintained her youthful glow thanks to her mom Kathy Hilton's skincare advice. She said, my mom told me when I was eight years old, Paris, stay out of the sun. And then she taught me this amazing 10 step skincare routine. So I've literally been doing that since I was 8. She also noted that she built an incredible in home spa called the Sliving Spa. It features.
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B
Yeah. Have you ever seen it? It has like a hyperbaric chamber. It's insane.
- [52:48]
A
It has an LED light therapy, offers hydrofacials and cryotherapy, and hosts a hyperbaric chamber. So she is like adamant that she has never.
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B
She has maintained this for years.
- [52:59]
A
Yes, she has. And people I think are really dubious about this claim. However, like I'm really, I'm looking into it. Like I believe her. I think this is really possible. However, like there's Abby. Something like she's 43 years old and.
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B
Her skin is like not even Botox.
- [53:18]
A
Like does her forehead move now? Like people, you know, gravity is gravity. We can't defy it.
- [53:25]
B
People, I. A lot of people don't believe this one because it's Just, like, not believable that somebody who looks that great could have had no help. But there also just are people who are genetically blessed. So, like, you have to keep that in mind, too. Yes. She stayed out of the sun and she has a hyperbaric chamber and she does hydrofacials. But there are some people who even just, like, not celebrities, regular people in your life who look amazing for their age. Like, part of it is just some people are genetically blessed.
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A
And I do think that her sister is a also in. Like, they look the same. They both look amazing. And they both said they follow their mom's skincare advice. Like, there's a lot of credibility here.
- [53:58]
B
Yeah. Nikki also looks great. She has the same genetics that she, like, has. I'm sure Nikki, like, has, like, everyone else done stuff. I don't know if she maintains the same, like, line as Paris, but she looks amazing for each, too. She's a mom of three. Like.
- [54:10]
A
Yeah. So, like, I think that there is some truth here. I don't think she's lying, and I also don't think she would lie in such, like, a big, public, adamant way.
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B
And by the way, I agree with you. She has said this many times. And actually, the first time I ever met Paris, like, not to make anything about myself, we were just talking, and she said this. She said this to me in private. She's like, yeah. You know, I've never had anything done. I'm like, well, like, Botox, obviously. She was like, no, no, no. Like, not under the knife, not injections. I've never done anything to my face.
- [54:32]
A
No. It's so crazy when you look at a picture of her, like, from nowadays, like, she looks like someone who has amazing work. Like, that's just because of what you assume, but, like, potentially she hasn't, and I believe her. You know, I'm a believer. I've not known Paris to lie.
- [54:47]
B
No, the. What? Like, what's the crazier part? That she looks this good and has never had anything done or. She's a woman who's been in Hollywood her entire life and has not fallen prey to the plastic surgery.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I think she doesn't. She doesn't look 17. She looks 35.
- [55:07]
A
No. Her skin is amazing, though. Like.
- [55:09]
B
Yeah. And by the way, skin, for the most part, is genetic.
- [55:15]
A
Yeah.
- [55:15]
B
And, Cathy, you can do all your routines.
- [55:17]
A
Kathy has amazing skin.
- [55:19]
B
I love Kathy.
- [55:20]
A
I know. I'm excited for Beverly Hills this week.
- [55:24]
B
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There.
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Thank you 65% Turt.
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A
Our next story. A little more housewives news. Teddy Mellencamp has taken accountability and apologize for wrongdoing after her.
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B
She have a coach?
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A
Affair with horse trainer. Does she have a coach, a coach, an accountant?
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B
Accountability.
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A
This is what she posted on Instagram. She said, the only person who can change your life is you. We have two options. Pretend to be a victim or stand up and fight for yourself. We all deserve peace and happiness.
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B
It's giving Alphabet.
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A
I have cried and mourned. I've taken accountability and apologize for things I have done wrong. Now I've given myself permission to grow and thrive. I've decided to not pander to the media and tell my side because in the big scheme of things, clickbait means nothing. And of course, three sides to every story. How can I stand up and show up for the people that do matter? Does. This is called being an adult.
- [60:46]
B
Okay. Like, I actually, I'm sorry. I stopped caring like, four sentences ago. And I already, like, barely cared about the situation. Like, in the beginning. What I did want to talk about when it comes to Bravo is did you think that Bravo had, like, another convention in Miami this weekend?
- [60:59]
A
Yeah, Fan Fest.
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B
That was like, fan. It was called Bravo Fan Fest, which had, like a. I saw like, a bunch of good panels. Like, but I don't know why there was, like, no hype for it. Like, BravoCon. Like, what was this event?
- [61:08]
A
I don't know.
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B
And why wasn't it as, like, hyped up? It looked super well done. Like, it looked really beautiful. They had, like, stars galore.
- [61:16]
A
Yeah, I saw some. It did seem like Bravo Con Elk, but I couldn't get my head around what it was.
- [61:21]
B
Also, I heard Kyle Cook said something about Ben, and I heard that the Whole room was booing him. So, like, that brings me joy. I don't know if it made any cut. I think it was one of those. Watch Rapids live.
- [61:31]
A
Oh, my God. I wonder what he said. Do you know?
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B
I don't know, because the boots on the ground, who told me. Like, seriously, it's like, the worst historian on the planet.
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A
Like, to know who it was. I was actually.
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B
I just know that the crowd booed Kyle and, like, that brought me joy.
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A
I was supposed to be in the video. I was invited to something. I heard. You should have went. It didn't work out.
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B
They should have had you moderate a panel.
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A
I had to see Wicked at midnight. No, I got something. I forget what it was, and I forget why it didn't work out. But it didn't work out. So I. I didn't know there was something. Bravo. Headed to Miami.
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B
Very cool. Very cool. And I saw Jesse Solomon was there. And I just think it's really important that everybody knows that. If you look up the pictures of Jesse Solomon on the red carpet wearing, like, a knitted, neutral type of shirt, that is the shirt he is wearing. Abercrombie. That's a shirt both Ben and Jason Tardick wore in St. Barts in different colors. It's from Abercrombie.
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A
So add him to the club.
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B
Yes. Of the Cromwell stars. Reality stars love Abercrombie.
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A
Crombie boys.
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B
Don't sleep on the men's Crombie. It's good.
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A
Or the women's.
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B
I like that shirt. Jesse looks great in it.
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A
He should wear this shirt to the party tonight.
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B
I can't. I'm already wearing this hat. Oh, yeah. Just back to Teddy Mellencamp. Like, releasing a statement saying, you're not going to be releasing a statement. Like, just release the statement. No. And it's giving guilty. No.
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A
You guys like more of this if you want to, like, get out of whatever. Talking about, like, whatever. Because it's like, the more, like, nonsense you say like this. Like, the more we just want to move on, and we don't want to hear about it, like, because these things are fatigued.
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B
I don't care.
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A
Like, I don't want to hear you say, like, it's so smart. I can't tell you enough.
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B
She basically. She might as well have said she was just having a human moment, you know?
- [63:06]
A
Yeah, no, like, word salad up. Keep talking about it without actually saying anything, and we will move on.
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B
And it was like, we were barely, like, barely caring in the beginning, and now I really, really don't care. So that's a strategy.
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A
Do you see that she does her podcast a lot with Erica. Do you see those clips?
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B
I've seen it, yes.
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A
Where's Tamra? Or is that just like they do? Both.
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B
I don't know. I'm not even gonna pretend to. Like, I. I'm not even gonna pretend like I understand two T's in a pod, honestly.
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A
Okay. Because he would. Yeah. I just. It's always. I always see Teddy and Erica, and I'm like, where there's a T and an E. I see.
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B
By the way, I'm not doubting you. I've seen them once.
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A
No, I've seen them, like, a couple times. Like, maybe it's all from the same episode, but I've seen it over time. You know what I mean?
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B
I think that, like, Erica, you know, when she does a press tour, she goes on the teas.
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A
Okay. She brings the E to the T. Yeah. Okay. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little more housewives news.
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B
Oh, wow.
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A
It falls into your favorite category of Luann. Luann shooting her shot with famous actors.
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B
Oh, who this time?
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A
Luan de Lesseps recalls heavily making out with Hugh Grant at a restaurant in the Hamptons.
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B
Oh, my God, I love that.
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A
Luanne once had a wild night with Hugh Grant. The Bravo star recounted a heated moment she shared with the actor in an interview with 2fab during her marriage Kill Cabaret tour. She said she decided to dine at a restaurant in the Hamptons called Pierre's after her friend told her that Hugh Grant was there. So she called the restaurant and said, get the table right next to Hugh Graham. She said, I had my family over. My brother was visiting me, and I said, let's go. At the eatery, she set up what she called a flirting 101 ploy that involved her sitting behind Grant and casually bumping into him while pushing out her chair, after which we could all learn.
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B
A thing or two from Luanne de La.
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A
Take notes, ladies. After which she apologized to him. She said, I'm so sorry. Can I buy you a shot? I feel terrible.
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B
A shot, A shot.
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A
And he goes, okay, but I'll come have a shot with you if you do one with me.
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B
Okay. Love that he was receptive, because I'm sure, like, things like this happened to him a lot. Obviously was dazzled by the Countess.
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A
The night progressed from there, and the two ended up taking shots and making out heavily at the table. She said her brother was like, I can't believe you're making out with Hugh. Grant. And she was like, neither can I.
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B
Okay. It's weird that her brother was there, but I'm, like, choosing to ignore that part of the story. I'm obsessed. I believe it, actually. We saw Hugh Grant in the Hamptons. Like, he obviously spends time there. I believe every lick of this story, Luanne. Especially if you don't know her. Yes. I literally saw him walking out of St. Ambrose.
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A
Oh, cool.
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B
I. If you don't know, like, the lore of this person as like a famous housewife, like, slash train wreck, and you just see her in the Hampton, she's really like a very beautiful, very worldly, confident, confident older woman. Like somebody who Hugh Grant would go on a date with. And I love that Hugh Grant got got by the Countess. I love that he was attracted to her. I love that he, like, respects a woman his own age. Like, this makes me. This is like 11 points in Hugh Grant's column. And I love that Luann held onto the story for a little bit before she shared it with us. And I just. She's like, she's literally a role model.
- [66:07]
A
Yeah, no, she really is. Like, she's not the Countess for no reason. You don't become accountable just, like, by accident.
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B
It's true. We forget, like, because now it's like a joke. But, like, at one point in time, this woman was a part of British aristocracy. Like, she was married to an actual nobleman. She lived in like a six floor townhouse on the Upper east side, and she would not let Bethenny Frankel's driver refer to her by her first name. Like, this woman is otherworldly. And obviously she's now like, you know, a reality star and all the things that come with it, but you don't lose that.
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A
No, you don't lose that, Riz.
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B
You don't lose that. Rizz.
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A
She's the Rizzler.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. So I love that. I had one more thought about Wicked, though. Like, oh, like, I forget what just made me think of something from Wicked. I don't know if I'm gonna remember, but that's what I wanted to say next.
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B
The girl who played opposite Bow and Yang, like the two followers of Glinda, she was great too.
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A
But when Yang was another one who every time I saw him, I would remembered I was in the movie theater. Like, yeah, he distracted you. Yeah, just like too much of like a person outside, like, and then I guess the Ethan Slater, because I'm just looking at him like, what in the. What?
- [67:23]
B
It's also like, I don't know if I put together that, like, his character, like, he was booked in a role that, like, likes Ari, you know, and he's romantic.
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A
I would do anything for you, Glinda.
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B
He wasn't acting.
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A
He wasn't. Every time they touched him, like.
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B
Yeah, it's true. I agree. It was too real. What about the baby? Oh, and by the way, I know it's probably, like, part of the lore, but everyone in the opening scene and every, like, member of Oz, the munchkins, like, having the same hair as him.
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A
Oh, my God. I was him.
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B
Yeah. So is that Bach?
- [67:57]
A
And I guess it is. Part of work is, like, it's the scarecrow hair.
- [68:01]
B
Right, right, right.
- [68:03]
A
Oh, my gosh. It was crazy. I didn't realize Bach was, like, actually such a big character. I had forgotten who he was, even though he is a big part of dancing through life. I'm wearing the hat to the party tonight.
- [68:15]
B
But I love Fiero. Like, he was so.
- [68:18]
A
He was so good. Yeah.
- [68:19]
B
I was, like, longing for him the whole movie.
- [68:22]
A
Elsa was kind of touching her friend's man's face. I didn't like that.
- [68:25]
B
So that is something that doesn't get spoken about enough. Because before they can even act on those feelings, like, the whole Oz thing happens. And, like, we forget about small things like relationships. But she was betraying her friend.
- [68:37]
A
Yeah. She was going after her friends, man, when she knew how much. That all started, like, after Glinda shared, like, she's going to marry him. And then, like, you're in the woods touching his face. You didn't need to do that.
- [68:47]
B
And then she's, like, letting her friend spiral. Like, things haven't been the same since that day with the Professor. And, like, you're just sitting there letting her drive herself crazy when you have information. It's literally that scene. It's Miranda when she knew why Big didn't show up at the altar. And she lets Carrie think for months that it was her fault in Sex and the City.
- [69:04]
A
It's not even. But that that would be like it. Because Big was in love with Miranda.
- [69:08]
B
No, I know, but it's like, you're sitting on information. You're letting your friend literally drive crazy.
- [69:12]
A
Linda's the one who's the bad friend because she didn't get on the broom. But it's like you're stealing her man. You're in the midst of a man theft.
- [69:18]
B
Right. Why don't you get on that broom and go get your man?
- [69:20]
A
Yeah. So that was not. Not the nicest, but, you know. No, it wasn't love conquers all, I guess. I don't know. They could have just like, had a mutual love of animals and been friends and let it be.
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B
I wasn't, I wasn't sure. I didn't remember, like, who Fiero ended up with. I'm like, is this Alphabet's love interest or Glinda's? And when it was Glinda's, I'm like, you know what? Good. Like, it's. It's fine.
- [69:43]
A
Yeah.
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B
Like, Elphaba has too much going on in her life for like a romantic partner.
- [69:46]
A
So I think that he goes Alphabet and then he like, betrays Alphabet. And that's really, like when the villain, you know, that's major part of her villain origin story is the heartbreak from Fiero and him choosing Glinda. But like, I'm just. That's going on vibes. I. I don't remember for a fact.
- [70:02]
B
I'm gonna see the play. Maybe I'll see it over Thanksgiving weekend.
- [70:04]
A
You should. Spoilers for part two.
- [70:07]
B
Like, Munchkin. So small minded.
- [70:10]
A
No.
- [70:11]
B
When she ran into that field, it was Bell.
- [70:14]
A
When she ran into. That was like one of them. Like, if my. If I was on a heart rate monitor, like, that was one of my peaks where I was just like, overcome with joy and glee. And she was just like, she's such a sweetie. Elphaba's such a sweetie. People don't know that about her.
- [70:28]
B
It was giving that scene when Belle runs into the lavender fields and she.
- [70:31]
A
Says, if you're not singing to an open field in a movie musical, what are you doing? And really, Julie Andrews did it best. And she did it first.
- [70:39]
B
Did it first. What is, what line does she sing Belle, when she's like, I want so much more.
- [70:44]
A
I want adventure in the grave somewhere.
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B
Where I want it more than I can tell. Yes.
- [70:53]
A
And we're looking at the great white sunwear. Like, it's literally right itself.
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B
My only note, actually is when she's on that cliff, like, what she's looking out at, like, wasn't Pargie in Beauty and the Beast. It was so gorgeous. She's looking over the lavender fields of Provence. And of course in Sound of Music, she's looking over these gorgeous hills, rolling hills. And I don't know, she was kind of looking out over the desert. Elphaba. It was like dark. It was like dusty.
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A
Yeah, well, that's like. It was a magical land. So it was a little bit like, you know, colorful. AI. Like, not beautiful nature. Like, not the architect. It was more like wizard but that's the land that they live in. It's fairy land.
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B
So, yeah, just a note. That is our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the Toast the Money morning show where we Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and gives video thumbs up. We are also available as a podcast anywhere, anywhere podcasts can be found. So it's Spotify, itunes, Stitcher, Public video, I have radio Castbox all the places. Wherever you listen to podcasts, find us the Toast. Leave a five star review about how beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented we are. It's actually that's not it. That's the original. She did. What did. She did a little.
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A
She added another note.
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B
So good.
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A
Love you. Bye.