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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Monday. I'm so excited to be sitting down with somebody who's like, Gen Z it girl. We are extremely young and hip here at the Toast, but somebody we talk about all the time on the Toast because we're just sort of in awe of her. Everyone, it's Zandra. Welcome to the Toast. Sandra.
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B
Goodness. Hello, hello, hello.
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A
I was just saying to you offline, I cannot believe I'm seeing your hairline in person. Your hairline is so insane. It's so straight and full. I can't stop staring at it. And you were saying that people online think it's, like, you know, fake fake. But that's.
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B
And I'm like, it's not fake.
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A
You were born with that show, the camera. Like, that's insane. It's so thick and straight and full.
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B
I don't. I don't know. My mom has the same thing. Yeah, I remember when people started, like, talking about it online. They were like, your hairline. Hairline, Hairline. My mom called me and she was like, you know, that's because of me. And I was like, oh, oh. And there she goes, you know? Yeah, she was like, no, that's definitely not coming from your dad. That's me.
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A
So we talk about you all the time on the toes because you're just, like, so cool and fun and fresh. And, like, when you were on Sports Illustrated and you wore that star dress on your boobs, like, it was amazing. It was giving ogk dupton. We're, like, so jealous and happy for you, and it's so excited to be here. You know, we have a very unique audience. We're huge with Gen Z, But a lot of our listeners are of anti Tik tok. So for anyone who's not familiar with you, like, give everyone your little rundown, your shtick. DJ it girl, University of Miami.
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B
Like, you go, okay. Oh, my gosh, this is hard. How do I.
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A
Like. She is hard. Sorry, that's, like, not a cool question.
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B
I'm like. And you talk so fast, and you learn how to, like, get on your level.
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A
I'm like, okay, so you know what? When I started following you, you were still a University of Miami student. You were, like, getting ready to go out and DJ you. When did you start DJing?
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B
I started DJing when I was 16 years old.
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A
Damn. So, like, in high school?
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B
In high school, yeah.
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A
Where are you from?
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B
Ohio. Cincinnati.
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A
That's so random. I would have thought you were from, like, New Jersey.
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B
That's what everyone says. They're like, you give, like, east coast energy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Maybe it's because I'm, like, a little bitchy. Like, I don't know.
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A
What was it like growing up in Ohio? That's so random and, like, Glee of you.
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B
Imagine.
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A
Just.
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B
It's so Glee. It's so cute.
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A
Lime Heights.
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B
Like, I did not go to Lime Heights, sadly. I wish I did. I was just not a good singer, so maybe that didn't work out for me. But I, like, imagine growing up in Ohio, like one of those basic boring movies, right? Like, I.
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A
Just very regular.
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B
Just like, the most regular experience. That is what I had.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, nothing special.
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A
Nothing special. And so why'd you start DJing?
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B
I started DJing because I was always in music festivals. Like, I love going to them, and I had such an amazing time. And I went to Lollapalooza. I think it was my junior year, summer, going into my senior year, and I saw Alice in Wonderland performing, and that was, like, the first female DJ that I ever saw. And I was like, wow, that's what I want do. That's who I want to be. I just thought was the sickest thing ever. I've never saw a female dj.
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A
It is really cool. So I was telling you a little bit before, I also in college, actually, a little after college, I had, like, a brief, like, career time as a dj. I thought, first of all, like, it was fun, you know, And I. I love to party. And I was like, well, I can also, like, get paid. It's actually really hard to dj. And let me tell you, I took lessons. There was a place here, I think it's still in business, called Scratch Academy. Like, I. I didn't know where to start, you know?
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B
Like, that's true.
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A
I. What did you like yourself from, like, YouTube videos?
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B
Yeah, all YouTube videos.
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A
So I was like, let me just buy the equipment. What's that thing called?
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B
A board?
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A
No, but, like, what's the one like, that everybody has, like. It's like.
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B
Like the 100. Like, the small one, like, the big.
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A
It had, like, the turntable. It had, like, one turntable.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
I went to class and I took a bunch of lessons, and I got, like, one or two gigs, and I realized very quickly it wasn't for me, because I think a lot of People think, and myself included, that, like, you could just, like, drink and get up and, like, party. But you're. But you're working, right? And it's actually, most people do it live.
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B
Yeah, most people.
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A
You know, I see. I see a lot in your comments. People are always accusing you of, like, not mixing live, which is kind of offensive to women.
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B
It's so annoying. But it's just something I'm just used to at this point. Yeah. Like the top comment. Dj, press play. Or what is the other way?
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A
Press play. This Paris Hilton too. I see that all the time in her.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So uncool.
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B
It's so. It's. I mean, they'll say to any female ever, but it was so funny. I actually posted video playing Levity the. They're like these crazy dubstep DJs, and they also did a collab with Crank. Crank that. And I posted something to the remix, and everyone was commenting like, oh, my gosh. DJ press play. And then Levity, who's like, one of the biggest upcoming DJ groups right now. Oh, my gosh. This is so hard talking, by the way.
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A
It is. I do talk really fast, and I think, holy moly.
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B
I'm trying to keep up over here.
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A
Oh, my God. For a lot of people, they're really surprised at how, like, fast paced the podcast is. I apologize. I'm gonna slow down.
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B
No, no, no, you do not need to slow down.
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A
I'm gon up with you questions for you because I've been following you for so long. You, like, came up for me when you were, like, doing your makeup in your dorm and you were like, tik tok famous in college, which I feel like is the most cool, fun thing ever. Like, did everyone on campus just, like, was, like, talking about you guys? Like, what was it like? Because I knew I experienced it on the Internet, but you were actually experiencing it in real life. Like, instead of having to go to class and stuff.
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B
It was. I mean, at that point, I was a senior, so I feel like everyone, like, we already. It's a very small school. University of Miami is, like, very, very small. So I feel like people think it's like this, like, massive school, but it was only kind of weird. Like, the freshmen would only say things, but everyone else, we're like, we've been seeing these people for, you know, the past three, four years. We really do not care about them.
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A
How long were you tick tocking and making, like, get ready with me is before? Because I remember when it all started. Everyone has, like, an hour, like, their Emily Marico era, when everyone's talking about it. And like, literally my older sister Olivia, who has two kids and is not to be rude. Sorry. Olivia is 34. She was like, are you seeing Xandra? It really took off to the point where everyone was talking about the University of Miami girls, like, getting ready, and Olivia was explaining. Olivia was the one, she was like. And Sandra, she's a DJ and like, she gets ready. And so I, I, it was just like a cultural moment where everyone was talking about it. And so I feel like I've been following you since that moment. So I have so many questions for just like, what it was like. And now you're just like an it girl and you're DJ and you go to sports, illustrate. And it's amazing and we love it. But I feel like it was when, when it was all happening, like, you had to be there almost like to experience it. It was so fun to just. And I think a lot of people, myself included, were just living vicariously through you guys because it was like, you know, I haven't gotten ready in pregame. You guys literally party so much every single night. And it was just like, how is this real? And then you took a really different approach from some of the other girls and you were DJing and it was so cool to watch your rise. And now you do DJ festivals. You're here in New York for a show. Like, it's so fun to watch. So I apologize for my fast paced questions. I've just been kind of wanting to, I love it for a while.
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B
I know. I feel like people would always send me a clip from the podcast whenever you talked about me, and I was like, wait, I love that my need to go.
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A
Well, we also, you know, much like a lot of the Internet users, we are kind of like obsessed and curious with a lot of the, like, the drama with the girls in college because you and Alex came up together. I feel like you guys don't necessarily have bad blood, but you don't like, fuck around as much as you used to. Yeah, and I, I always, I'm kind of like a troll. Like, I'm always in your comments and I like to see what people say. Like I said, they're always accusing you of not playing live and they're always accusing you and Alex of having bad blood. And it must be really annoying to like not be able to move past that. I'm a part of the problem now because I'm like bringing it up. Like, it's like all in your comments all the time. And you feel like you can't move past it.
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B
I mean, I, I feel like there's certain things. There's no bad blood, there's no problems. I feel like you're in college and you're really close to people, and then, yeah, you graduate and everyone's kind of going their own separate directions and that's life. And I'm so close with a bunch of my other college friends, but, you know, it's. People are always going to be curious. People are always going to bring stuff up. It's always going to be like a part of my story. But I feel like, I don't know, I'm doing so many other amazing things and I live an amazing life and, and amazing friends. So whenever people say that, I'm like, I get where you guys are coming from, but it's really just not that deep.
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A
Okay. That's really good to know.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Does it feel like. Like you're. How old are you? Sorry, if that's okay, that I just turned 25. Hey. Yeah. Okay, so. But you're. And you've been tick tocking and publicly, like, people have been paying attention for what, like three, three years?
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B
I'm trying to, like halfway through my senior year is when things kind of.
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A
And that's just such a important time in a young girl's life. Right. You know, like, lots happening. You're dating, you had a boyfriend, you guys broke up. And then, you know, everyone's wondering, Danny Amidola, like, how does it feel to like, have these public moments documented? And I, I, you know, started girl with no job in college, but I didn't have as interesting of a life as you did. You know, me and Ben met when we were 18 and we've been together for 100 years. And now we have a baby. Like, you're experiencing all these sort of canon events as a young woman in front of so many people. How does that feel? That's a big question.
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B
It's interesting. You know, it's one of those things, like, because you want to be reckless, you want to do all those things, but when you know that there's so many people watching, you kind of do have to check yourself.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And you do have to grow up quicker in a way and just understand that there are repercussions for your actions. And I feel like that's what I've learned because I feel like all my friends were like, dating, going around, doing all this stuff. And at first when I had a boyfriend, I would go online and I would just talk about stories about us. Because I. It's really hard to understand, like, how many people are watching.
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A
I know.
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B
And how many people are invested stuff. I feel like I was really, really good about it for the most part. I mean, there was definitely some moments where I was like, is that. Was that necessary to tell? Yeah, but I mean, I.
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A
Those are things, though, that you, like, really have to learn the hard way. Like, yeah, you will get to a place where you know what the right balance to share is, but, like, you kind of have to, like, up before you realize, like, that you don't have to share everything.
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B
Exactly. And that's what. For the people that I've been talking to, like, recently, and the new dating and all the new stuff, I've kind of been, like, holding back a little bit.
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A
Yes, we did notice that you were not being clear with us whether that was Danny Amendola's Dancing with the Stars apart, But we knew that it was, and that's okay. We knew that it was, and we were happy for you. And I feel like I was part of people. Be like, guys, be cool. Like, be cool.
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B
Yes. I was like, everyone, just, like, be chill about it. Just, like, can I have my moment? You know what I mean? Like, do I need to, like, spell it out for everyone?
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A
Right. You gave us what you gave us, and we saw it and we understood it.
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B
Yeah. I was like, just please bear with me.
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A
Are you dating right now? Dating as in, like, are you seeing one person specifically?
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B
No.
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A
No. But are you seeing multiple people? Love that. No, not, like, 25 and had your hairline girl, like, you would not be able to keep me out of people's.
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B
No, not the hairline.
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A
No. But, like, it's like, you must be having so much fun.
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B
I. For a while, I wasn't having fun. I'll give you that. Like, getting.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Getting over the breakup and just. I had to deal with all that trauma, and I feel like I was really, really good at height. Not. I don't want to say hiding it, but again, what I said is, as soon as you bring things to the Internet, then, boom, there's, you know, there's no going back. And so I really took my time with kind of explaining everything that happened in my past relationship, and I had to deal with it personally before I dealt with it publicly. And so it really took me a long time to get over that and to deal with all those traumas.
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A
Can I tell you that the Internet is so crazy? Because now, coming up on my TikTok.
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B
And correct me if I'm wrong, Is.
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A
Your ex man, like now, but like a tick tocker. He's like dancing.
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B
Yes.
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A
Yeah, see, that's him. Okay, that's what I thought. I, like, recognized his face. I'm like, why do I know this guy? And then, of course, like I said, I'm a troll who just reads comments. And I learned every. Everything I say on the podcast. I'm like, I read it in a tick tock comment. That's why I'm always, like, full of misinformation. You should never listen to anything I say. But yes, the comments did confirm that that was Sandra's X man. How do you. How do you feel about his new digital footprint?
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B
You know, there's certain things I. It's a little, you know, you just gotta let people do their thing.
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A
Yes. I love that. That's a good response.
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B
You know, I. They're just having their moment and I think, you know, he. When we ended things, I said, he pleaded with me to, you know, not talk about all his atrocities that he did with me. And I said, you know what? For the sake of our relationship and, like, how long we were together for like, four years.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it was a very traumatic four years. But I was like, you know what? I did love you for a very long amount of time, and you were a big part of my life. And he was like, I do not want to be online. Please, like, just let me have this one thing. Can I go and have a normal life?
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A
Okay, that's like a fair ask. Even though, like, he was atrocious like you said.
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B
Yeah, exactly. But it was like we had all the, like, I don't know, it was like I loved him a lot at one point, even though he did all those awful things. So then I was like, you know what? Fine. You don't want to be on the Internet, don't bother. Bother me.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I won't talk about you and all this thing. And then all of a sudden I was like, oh, interesting. But, you know, everyone's doing their own thing and, like, I'll let them cook.
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A
Well, that's a good perspective. I didn't realize that. I think it's a fair thing for someone to ask. And Jackie and I talk a lot about how, like, in this day and age, you know, people are in relationships, and then, like, you know, they go and, like, tell everyone everything that ever happened in that relationship. Bad and good. And sometimes people deserve it. Zach. Brian. But it does feel like now it's like a thing people do where they just, like, tell the worst Things the people's worst moments in a relationship and, like, you know, go on a podcast about it. Now, obviously you're on a podcast.
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B
I'm like, oh, oops, it's happening.
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A
But I actually really respect that you didn't do that. I imagine that was hard when you just wanted to, like, scream it from the rooftop.
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B
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was. You know, it was a lot. And I went to, like, therapy and I tried to figure a bunch of my stuff out, but definitely when I seeing this and, like, there's a whole nother. I mean, it's just a bunch of lies. But, you know, like I said, if that is what they want to do, I'm letting themselves through.
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A
Dance.
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B
Yes. Dance. Dance. Dance away.
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A
Are you a big pop culture girly?
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B
Kind of.
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A
You love Dancing with the Stars, right?
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B
Yeah, I love.
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A
Because I feel like. Were you just there at the taping? Yeah. Got it. And of course, you spent a lot of time there last season.
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B
I was like, behind the scenes.
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A
And you're best friends with the former winner?
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B
Yes.
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A
And he also ran the marathon.
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B
Yes.
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A
You're in town marathon, too?
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B
Yes.
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A
Because your brother ran the marathon.
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B
Yes.
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A
So crazy. I went to see the marathon yesterday, and my friend Emily ran Slay and Go Emily. It was so emotional. Like, I literally, the second I got to First Avenue to go see her, I was like, immediately. This happens every year where I'm like, I'm gonna run, and I'm obviously not. Even though I did run around a 5k two years ago, and it was kind of like my whole personality and I crushed it.
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B
Wait, I, like, want to see the.
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A
You know, I'll show you my. I have a medal too.
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B
Wait, I want to see it.
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A
Yeah, it was. It was really sick. And so, so many celebrities are in the marathon. We're going to talk about that. Sandra, what's the longest you've ever run?
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B
What is the longest I've ever. I used to be, like, a big runner.
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A
Were you?
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B
Yes.
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A
Do you ever do, like an official run? 5k, 10k?
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B
I. I did a 5k when I was 8 years old and I threw up.
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A
I meant not me saying I did a 5k like a year ago, and you did it when you were 8 years old.
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B
I played soccer my whole entire life. That was always a big thing.
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A
But I actually such a soccer girl.
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B
Right. That I mean, like, people say that it's my. The legs.
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A
No, I didn't mean ph. But like five wise, like, you're.
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B
Wait, do I give soccer.
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A
You're so Soccer.
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B
Wait. You know, I feel.
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A
I definitely.
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B
I definitely don't give. Like, I hope I don't give. I don't know.
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A
Like, you don't give dj, though, really? Yeah. But maybe it's just.
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B
That's. No, People say that all the time, though. I'll go up. The amount of security guards that I've gone up, I'm like, oh, I'm DJing. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet.
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A
And I'm like, dream gig.
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B
Dream gig. Ooh. I feel like I've done a lot. Like, my dream dream gig was to do EDC Vegas. I did that this year, which was a lot of fun. But I'd love to do a headline slot like EDC Vegas, which is pretty much one of the biggest you can get, or Tomorrowland, I really want to do.
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A
I'm familiar with Tomorrowland.
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B
So sick.
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A
Let me ask you a question, because we were talking on the toast last week about Dictionary.com released the word of the year, and they made it six, seven. And I was with my sister Margo. It was during Halloween, and we were, like, trying to understand what's. And she was, like, trying to explain it, but she, like, low key, didn't know. And every time I don't understand something, I ask her because she's, like, young and hip.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Can you explain it?
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B
I have no idea.
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A
Oh, okay. That makes me feel. I have an idea, but, like. And I feel like everyone's like, six, seven. It just popped up out of nowhere.
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B
I thought it was, like, somber because he was like, six foot seven.
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A
I thought it was because seven, eight, nine. Like, I really. I was not. I don't. Listen to me.
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B
I know. No, but I still, like. That's one of the things. Like, I have no idea. None of my friends have any idea. And we talk about all the time.
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A
Okay. So I'm not brainwashed. Oh, no, you're not brain rot.
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B
I'm not brain. Not.
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A
So where do you live? You live in Miami. That's fun.
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B
It is a lot of fun.
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A
And so when you, like, party professionally, has it become less fun to, like, party regular?
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B
I'd say definitely. It's changed my clubbing experience.
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A
Right.
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B
Because I work at the club place. Yeah. I say. I always say that I have the same hours as a hooker.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Nights and weekends. So I'm like, you will not see me out and about. But it's. I don't know. It's still a lot of fun, but I feel like most of the time when I hang out with my friends, In Miami, like, we're on a boat. It's a house party. I try to avoid clubs.
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A
The clubs, because it's like how somebody feels. Like when they walk into a corporate office.
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B
Yeah. Or like a doctor walking into a hospital. Right. Like, that's how it feels. Yeah, that's how it feels.
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A
And you love living in Miami. You don't think you would ever move?
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B
I love it. I mean, I just got a house there, so I'm stuck there for. Until I find a husband, of course.
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A
So are. Do you want to get married, like, soon?
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B
Well, I. I have to find a boyfriend first. Talking about husbands, you know, everyone is getting engaged. Can we talk about it?
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A
I mean, I. I don't feel that way, but because it's like, I'm not in my engaged area. It feels like everybody's having babies. That's how I feel.
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B
Oh, my gosh.
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A
So what kind of, like, timeline are we working with, you think?
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B
Well, I. I had. Well, my ex boyfriend. I mean, I feel like whenever you have a boyfriend for a long amount of time, you always think that you're.
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A
Gonna marry them, or.
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B
So I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm gonna get. Yeah, I was gonna. I was like, oh, I'm gonna get married young. Like, all the stuff. And now I'm like, whoa.
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A
Yeah.
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B
By the way, I don't know. I'd love to find a boyfriend first. I might be.
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A
That would be helpful.
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B
That would help to get the cousin Sage. Yeah.
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A
Now, is your full name Alexandra?
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B
Yes.
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A
When did you start going by Zandra? It is such a cool name. I feel like you're super talented, but I think a lot of, like, your charm and your success when you were first, I never heard of anyone Zandra. Like, it was really kind of like a stage name, especially as a dj. It's great to have. Where did that come from?
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B
It came from. Honestly, I was looking for a DJ name.
- [18:17]
A
Yeah.
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B
And so I. When I was growing up, my full name was Alexandra. And then everyone always just tried to short my name to Alex. And my mom was like, I just don't. Like, I named you Alexander for a reason. I was like, oh, my gosh, this is interesting. Well, yeah, because imagine, like. But I was like, mom, you chose, like, the longest name, right?
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A
No. And I just named a baby. And, like, you always think about, like, what they're gonna call the baby. And I imagine Alexandra, like, she would have known, like, they're gonna call you Alex.
- [18:40]
B
Exactly. And so I was like, I don't know. And then I was Called AP in high school. I was called a Pole in grade school. And so when I came to college, I was like, wow, everyone's gonna shorten my name. So how about I just put some. Like, I just choose what is.
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A
Because, honestly, that's so sick. I feel like people, a lot of times I get nicknames that they're. And they didn't choose those nicknames. And, yeah, kind of sucks. And the fact that you chose your nickname was kind of my dream. When I was in the eighth grade, I really wanted, like, a cool nickname, and so I had everyone call me Juice Box. Like, nobody called it. Yeah. I thought it was, like, such DJ Juice Box. That would have been more, like, obsessed. It did not catch on. It's, like, hard to later in life get a nickname. But college is a great place to, like, start fresh and be like, hi, I'm Sandra, and I love that it took off for you. Like, I'm so jealous and happy for you. That's awesome.
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B
Well, it was the reason how you do it. If you ever want to, like, rewrite yourself.
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A
Yes.
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B
Change your Instagram username before you go to college.
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A
Okay. That's actually really smart. Also happens, like, when girls get married. Like, if I've known you forever, like, I'm never calling you your married name.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
But if you change everything, like, shout out to my friend Dana, formerly Holzberg, now Whitman, the night she got married, she changed her Gmail, like, everything. I kind of always forget her maiden name. Now she's Dana Wetman.
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B
Stop. Yes.
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A
You gotta. You're right. It's on the Instagram handle.
- [19:53]
B
It's all in the Instagram handle. Because I. When I came to school, I was introducing myself as Alexandra, and people like, no, you're Zandra. And I was like, whoa, I love that. You're right.
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A
I should have changed my Instagram to Juice Box if I wanted to.
- [20:03]
B
And then I guarantee every single person would have called you Juice Box.
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A
Wait, I kind of love that.
- [20:08]
B
It's a hack. It's a hack.
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A
It's a hack.
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B
It's a hack.
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A
Well, Xandra is here to do the fast Five stories with me. What are you currently obsessed with in pop culture? Like, what TV shows are you watching? Like, what are the young kids watching?
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B
Ooh, what am I? I don't know. I'm, like, really weird. I love, like, Law and Order. SB obsessed.
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A
Also, cis, we have a lot of stories today about Halloween. I just want to say your Pamela Anderson costume was such a. A slay.
- [20:28]
B
Thank you so much.
- [20:29]
A
It's hard to be original. I feel like everybody, like, does the same couple of costumes. Loved.
- [20:34]
B
Thank you. Thank you. I, I have an amazing, like, team of stylists, and they basically were like, you're gonna beat this and this and this this year.
- [20:40]
A
So I do feel like you really actually look like her in everyday life. And the costume was such a slay.
- [20:45]
B
Thank you.
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A
So we have a lot of Halloween stories, a lot of celebrity costumes. It's not Halloween if a celebrity doesn't offend you with their costume. Now, this year, thankfully, nobody did blackface, but Julie Foxx is, like, kind of being crazy. So. Zandra, I have a question for you. Are you ready for the fast five stories?
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B
I am so ready.
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A
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She was wearing this like gorgeous pink suit. It was covered in blood. And then to like make a statement, Jackie O never changed. And. And for some reason, Julia Fox, that would be thought that would be a good costume to not only dress as Jackie up, but to wear like the blood. Now, of course, Jack Schlossberg is very upset. I kind of agree with him. It was a crazy costume. And I just want to say I'm kind of over Julia Fox. But she's raising eyebrows for her viral Halloween costume. The actress slash model dressed up as a bloody Jackie Kennedy Onassis. After she survived the assassination of her husband. She wore a replica of the famous pink suit and the pillbox hat, complete with blood stains, while attending a Halloween party in New York City on Thursday. So people were very, very upset. Jackie Onassis famously said, no, let them see what they've done to Jack. And I think Julie Fox got like a lot of hate. Rightfully so.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then she released a statement just sort of like trying to play K, being like, no, you guys don't get it. Like, I'm here. Like, this is a statement for women. She was like, after the backlash, Julie Fox posted a statement on Instagram defending her outfit. She said, it's not a costume, it's a statement.
- [28:27]
B
Oh.
- [28:27]
A
She said when her husband was assassinated, she refused to change out of her blood stained clothes. Clothes, saying, I want them to see what they've done. The image of the delicate pink suit splattered with blood is one of the most haunting juxtapositions in modern history. Beauty and horror, poise and devastation. Her decision not to change clothes, even after being encouraged to do so was an act of extraordinary bravery. It was performance, protest and mourning all at once. A woman weaponizing image and grace to expose brutality. It's about trauma, power, and how femininity itself is a form of resistance. Long live Jackie O. So while I really respect her use of language here to defend herself, I think she really wasn't expecting people to be so offended by this because it.
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B
Really is like, was that chat GPT?
- [29:09]
A
It's very chat.
- [29:10]
B
Right?
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A
I do respect her, like, attempt to be like, no, you guys don't get it.
- [29:15]
B
Yeah.
- [29:15]
A
Because sometimes when somebody like, you get hate, it's a good response to be like, no, you guys just don't understand it. I'm really not buying what she's selling. I'm just gonna say it's not a good costume.
- [29:23]
B
Oh, I, I, I just, I, there's no reason, I feel like that was like such a traumatic time. Like, like, yes. Assassination. Not cool. Especially with the not cool, not cool.
- [29:37]
A
It's not cool.
- [29:37]
B
It's getting the X for me.
- [29:39]
A
It's getting yes. I, I just really actually don't like this costume at all. I do think it's hard to be creative when it comes to, like celebrity costumes. Like, you know, Heidi Klum is always doing the most and I feel like she doesn't really need to be doing, like, what she's doing.
- [29:50]
B
The lizard tongue was insane.
- [29:53]
A
So I feel like it's definitely hard to stand out and Come up with a unique costume. Like not everybody can be Belly, Conrad and Jeremiah. I get it.
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B
That was so good.
- [30:00]
A
And I feel like this is just a result of like people trying to like do the most and have the best, most original costume. So much so that you get to a place where you don't realize you're doing something incredibly offensive. Because I don't think she was like trying to be offensive. I think she was trying to be different.
- [30:12]
B
I feel like she's always trying to be different. I feel like that's her thing.
- [30:14]
A
Like that's her stick and it's like a little annoying.
- [30:17]
B
It's like sometimes be being a little normal.
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A
Normal? Yeah.
- [30:20]
B
Maybe be Pamela Anderson.
- [30:21]
A
Like just be a little basic normal. Like be a nerd nurse.
- [30:25]
B
Like a sexy nurse.
- [30:26]
A
I feel like that is so, you know, it was so cliche that nobody does it anymore that if you were to be a sexy nurse now it's kind of original and creative. Yeah, I hate this costume. I hate her respond and I like, I hate to be like such a Karen. Like it is tasteless and it is offensive.
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B
I don't like it.
- [30:41]
A
Well, a costume that is not tasteless nor offensive and I think wins my best costume of the year. Besides your Pamela Anderson was Justin and Haley Bieber dressing their son Jack as a young Justin Bieber. And so Justin Bieber's son Jack Blues adorably channeled his pop star dad in Halloween 2025 by dressing as one of Justin's iconic looks. On Friday, Hailey Bieber shared a carousel of photos of their toddler to Instagram and she wished followers a happy Halloween. Here is the photo he's wearing the iconic purple hoodie and white denim jacket. I just want to say there's so many things I want to give Haley Bieber like credit here. For one, she famously does not share her son on social media. So I feel like it's hard to create content with your kids. Like you know, everybody's like always like explo kids for likes and it works. Shout out to Haley for making news without ever showing her kids face. Like that is such a slight.
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B
She's so cool.
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A
She. Oh my God, me and Margo, when she hosted with me last week, all we did was talk about Haley. Like there is seriously nobody cooler, better, more beautiful, more stunning, more successful. Like I just love her.
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B
She's really, I mean I, I've seen her in person a couple times too. And her skin, she glows. The road is working.
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A
She's a walking advertisement for her own brand. I'M a big fan of the road Glazing milk. I agree. Like she. She is so successful and she's a billionaire because she works hard. But also because like she is the embodiment of her own brand. You know, like slay. I love this costume. I think it's such a cute, funny way to pay homage. Like Justin's, you know, pop star roots and we don't get to see the sun and I don't want to. I respect her privacy.
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B
I want to.
- [32:08]
A
But I love that he literally has Justin Bieber hair.
- [32:10]
B
I know. And like the little proper. Like I wish they did a TikTok with him though.
- [32:15]
A
But I like, I always like I'm in the stage now where. Because I also don't show my son on social media when I. And now my whole for you page is like moms and stuff. When I see a mom who doesn't share her kids, like I follow them because it's so hard to like, you know, you want to make mom content but you're limited. And I think it's like a really hard but like good choice to not show your kids. So I'm always like trying to support mamas who don't show their kids. So if you like randomly got followed by me, that's why like I'm always following people.
- [32:40]
B
They're like snaps for you. It's hard.
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A
Like you want to share the journey but like it. It's really tempting to show your kids because like that content gets really, you know, good engagement and. And yeah, there's a lot of really kind of nefarious things going on on the Internet. And like I understand why a lot of moms don't. And that's like I cheer you on. So Haley's kind of our leader, our fearless leader. And look at her Mickey news slay.
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B
I know. With the back of her son's head. That's all you need.
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A
The back of his head is ridiculous. This is so cute. Seriously. Best costume goes to this two year old.
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B
I know. And he doesn't even know it.
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A
He doesn't. He doesn't even know how famous he is.
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B
No. He has no idea. Imagine just popping out of the womb.
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A
And I think the Kardashian kids know how famous they are. Especially like the older ones. Like north is like, she understands. She knows that she's a cult cultural icon.
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B
Yes.
- [33:20]
A
It must be so crazy to be so famous and like not know. And I think that's probably Justin and Haley's kids experience too. 100. That's so crazy.
- [33:27]
B
It's so crazy.
- [33:28]
A
What's your favorite Justin Bieber song to play? Like, what gets the people going?
- [33:31]
B
Oh, I don't really. I don't really play a lot of Justin Bieber myself.
- [33:36]
A
Who do you play the most? You know, I have a song if you ever want to play it. It's called. Yeah, it's.
- [33:40]
B
Wait, no. With your theme song.
- [33:42]
A
Okay, well, we do have our theme song. Yes. But I wasn't recommending you play that at a club. It's not club friendly. I would never say that. No, I imagine that was my intro. I have two songs. Songs. One's called chosen. One's called 100. They're both like, honestly, dance EDM ups. Can I play it for you? Wait.
- [33:55]
B
Yes. Stop.
- [33:55]
A
I'm dying. Okay, so I released Toast, which was kind of like my. My. Like, our. It really should be our theme song, but it's not. I don't know why. So this was my first song. It's called Toast. Like, it's literally hard to find on Spotify because there's so many episodes of the Toast.
- [34:10]
B
I love that. I had no idea that you were a d. I'm learning so many new things about you.
- [34:15]
A
Okay, so my music that I've released, my two songs, it's actually. It's not DJ songs. It's like, I sing too, know. I live for singing.
- [34:22]
B
Oh, my goodness.
- [34:23]
A
Okay, ready?
- [34:24]
B
Yes.
- [34:25]
A
I'll play for you guys, too. I'm dying. Sandra, you have to play that, like, live.
- [34:31]
B
Okay. No, I will, I will.
- [34:33]
A
It's good. It's like, you like the beat. Okay. Like, you get the vibe. Wait, another song called 100%, that's, like, a little bit more like, very Haley Steinfeld.
- [34:47]
B
Like, ooh.
- [34:48]
A
Actually don't like the beginning of the song. Sorry.
- [34:50]
B
Wait, you're a really good singer.
- [34:51]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [34:52]
B
I feel like the thing. Wait, she's really good. She's really good.
- [34:57]
A
Like, this is like. You play this at the club, right?
- [34:59]
B
Yeah.
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A
Dancing with the boys and the girls. I'm inclusive. Ready? Doing what we do in the world this would go crazy at tomorrow.
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B
Oh, my God. Yeah. Wait, you know what? That reminds me of, like, og. There was a song called Gold that I listened to, like, forever and ever and ever and ever ago. Like, I was. Oh, my gosh, I forgot her name.
- [35:21]
A
It was like, Brit Nicole. It's like a Christian song song. Is it okay? Like, was it in the movie the Other Woman? Because if you just brought up my favorite song, I would die Gold. How does it sound?
- [35:30]
B
Like it kind of Sounds like that. Like the verse kind of. Like the chorus kind of has that big opening moment.
- [35:35]
A
Okay. You have the Christian song. It's like, not at all.
- [35:39]
B
But like, like maybe. Maybe other people know what I'm talking about.
- [35:42]
A
We could circle back.
- [35:42]
B
Yeah, we'll circle back.
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A
I don't think that that's you were talking about. So. Yes. If you're ever looking for a couple of bots to play at Fountain Blue, just know. Know I give you full artistic control.
- [35:53]
B
Thank you.
- [35:53]
A
Would you ever remix one of my songs, Andrew? Should I Do you do that? Like, yeah. Because I know you released your own song. Thought he says yes. Do you remix? I mean, obviously, like remix like while you're DJing, but you should like release remixes of popular songs. Honestly, you could.
- [36:05]
B
I actually just did one of Take it Off and I made one too, actually. Romantic.
- [36:09]
A
Bye. Oh, I'd love that. Are you swifty?
- [36:12]
B
Like, yeah. I. I'd say. Okay. I'm not like a die hard, like crazy.
- [36:16]
A
That's your honest answer. Because I do feel like people on social media like, like will cosplay as Swifties just for likes and it's really. You can always tell who's like a fake fan who joined last year.
- [36:25]
B
Exactly.
- [36:25]
A
Respect. I actually really respect your answer.
- [36:27]
B
Thank you. I mean, I used to go to all the Taylor Swift's concerts growing up. Like, that was she. For me. I wasn't that big into Justin Bieber. I was like way more into Taylor Swift.
- [36:37]
A
Got it. But as you've grown up, like, your music taste has evolved a little bit. Yeah.
- [36:40]
B
Well, now I listen to like dubstep in my free time, so it's a little bit different. But I do love a Taylor Swift moment. Like her new album. Like, I love it, but I kind of go through like the ups and downs. Like, I wasn't like actually crawling to go to the Eras tour, but I do. But I do love it.
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A
Let me ask you a question. Dubstep.
- [36:57]
B
Yes.
- [36:57]
A
Is that music without lyrics?
- [37:00]
B
That's music with like big, big bass. Like.
- [37:03]
A
Got it. But that doesn't necessarily mean that. It doesn't.
- [37:05]
B
No. There's some lyrics.
- [37:06]
A
Okay. Because, like music without lyrics. Like DJ music without. It's some of my least fucking favorite music. Oh.
- [37:11]
B
I just like chill. Like, like beats house. Yeah.
- [37:13]
A
One thing I like, I love to sing. I like to chant. Like, oh, we're in the. If you're playing music without lyrics in a club, like, I'm going home. Yeah. Is that a hot take?
- [37:21]
B
Like, it's. It's not there's just different kind of realms in the music.
- [37:26]
A
Like, let's be real.
- [37:27]
B
Yes.
- [37:27]
A
And I'm like, I'm not in the drug era of my life. Sorry. So what do you mean? What do you mean? I'm not doing drugs. I'm so sorry. I'm so crazy. I'm not doing drugs. I'm breastfeeding. Okay. Like, let's be fudgeing real. Yeah.
- [37:39]
B
No, that's good. That's good. Yeah.
- [37:41]
A
What do you think about Tate McCray?
- [37:43]
B
Love.
- [37:43]
A
Love, too. But she's, like, kind of in a little bit of hot water. Did you see that video of her with the microphone?
- [37:47]
B
No.
- [37:47]
A
Okay. So she just had a show and she picked up the microphone to start singing, and she was holding the microphone upside down, but, like, the track was still playing. So now they're lip syncing allegations. Very Ashley Simpson, snl. Now, I just want to say I don't believe she was lip singing.
- [37:59]
B
Yeah, I just.
- [38:00]
A
I don't. But the video is extremely compelling. But I think a lot of people don't fully understand, like, how little. Even, like, the biggest pop stars sing live. Like, there's so much backing and track. So if you do, like, mess up, there is a track behind you, but that doesn't mean that you're not also singing live.
- [38:13]
B
Well, yeah, And I feel like she's danc dancing a lot, too. So you kind of do need a little something if she's not so out of breath.
- [38:18]
A
And you know that you, like, probably would be.
- [38:20]
B
But, like, that's kind of annoying to me, though, because it's so obvious that she's such an amazing singer. Like, have you seen her when she does the sound checks at the beginning and does, like, 100?
- [38:29]
A
I'm like, she sings live with her phone. You know, she, like, sings someone else's song and she reads lyrics.
- [38:33]
B
Exactly. I'm like, are you guys seriously coming after her for this? Like, let the girl live a little.
- [38:37]
A
I actually really respect, like, she puts on a show, right? And so that's dancing and that's singing. And I think probably what separates her for everyone, like, pop girly has their thing, right? And hers is totally dancing. So if she's putting out a show, like, she does need supportive elements. And if she has a backtrack just so she can, like, pop her pussy, I am okay with that because, like, that's her thing. Like, I like, Taylor Swift's thing is her songwriting. Like, everybody has their thing. And so all the Britney comparisons between Tate McCrae. Yeah, she's popping her pussy and she's dancing. And so, like, she can't be singing at a level 10. I think it's fine. I also think, like, the video is a little misleading.
- [39:08]
B
I need to see the video now.
- [39:09]
A
I mean, like, everybody has. Is a backtrack, right? Like.
- [39:12]
B
Yeah.
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A
You know music.
- [39:14]
B
Yeah.
- [39:14]
A
It's like a tracking act. Nobody's singing completely raw.
- [39:16]
B
No. And they're like, what people don't understand, like, what they're hearing in their ears is, like, something crazy. And if their ears aren't working, then they can't.
- [39:24]
A
They can't sing. Right. So I know she's just, like, kicking herself for that little flop because now the video is, like, going so viral. All it takes is, like, one video.
- [39:32]
B
It's so.
- [39:32]
A
Ruin your whole career. Isn't that insane? I don't think that's what's happening here. Like, table crazy is going to be fine. Oh, yeah. But it is really crazy how just one video taken out of context, 10 seconds can, like, literally destroy a person. I know TikTok is so great for so many things, but it's also so horrible for somebody.
- [39:46]
B
It's. I mean, it's just so. And I feel like before it used to be, like, news and all this stuff, but now it's literally anyone can get online and say anything, and obviously people are instantly gonna believe it.
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A
What's the biggest lie you've heard about yourself on TikTok?
- [40:01]
B
Oh, wait. There's been so many. That's, like, so tough.
- [40:04]
A
What's the one that, like, bothered you the most? Because it was so untrue true.
- [40:06]
B
Oh, so many. Wow. That I did a really awful things to my friends that just never happened.
- [40:18]
A
Oh, I know what you're talking about. I kind of do. Is it about, like, a naked picture or something?
- [40:23]
B
Yeah. That was not me.
- [40:24]
A
That was not you?
- [40:25]
B
No.
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A
Oh, okay. Thank you for setting the record straight. I think a lot of people assume that it was you. No. Okay. Slay.
- [40:31]
B
Yeah. It was not me. I know who it is, but I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever say that in a million years.
- [40:36]
A
I won't make you say it. But good on you for clearing your name. And why did you not clear your name for so many, like, months, years?
- [40:42]
B
It's just because I didn't, like, at that point, it's like, why would I have to defend myself for something that I didn't do?
- [40:51]
A
That's, like, the frustrating thing. And I feel like it's something like you just kind of get jaded with, but at first, when you get A platform and just people start saying things. You want to, like, point out every single thing that people are saying about you, big and small, that's wrong. And then you sort of just have to, like, learn to live with it. And, like, things really do work themselves out, and, like, the truth does eventually come out. But I'm shocked that you let that go on for so long. I'm not going to lie.
- [41:13]
B
I thought it was, you know, it was not me.
- [41:15]
A
Wow.
- [41:16]
B
Like. But, yeah, I mean, there's just certain things where I was just so focused about, like, my career, myself, and, like, there was a moment where things got a little crazy there for a second, but I told myself, I will always rise above.
- [41:29]
A
Yep.
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B
I'm never gonna talk poor or ill about someone. I'm never going to do something that I would not be proud of later in life. And I was like, if I come out and I. You know, there's obviously things that you want to, like, say or do, but, like, I'm all good now, and everything ended up working out for me.
- [41:50]
A
Yeah.
- [41:50]
B
But wow.
- [41:51]
A
I'm really impressed. I can't lie. Like, no, I'm part of the problem, because I totally thought it was you.
- [41:54]
B
No, it's okay. Okay. I mean, like, most people.
- [41:57]
A
I apologize.
- [41:58]
B
No, it's okay. It's okay. I feel like it always came up in, like, private conversations, and I feel like, no, it wasn't me. And they're like, well, why didn't you. Why didn't you say something? And I'm like, because, like, what. What am I. What am I gonna say? What am I gonna do? Like, I would. I would never. Like, you know, I was really close with these people, and, like, sometimes, like, people just have moments where they go and they do things and they regret them, and then they can't go back.
- [42:22]
A
Right?
- [42:22]
B
Because then. Then they seem like a bad person. They would never apologize. So that then I was just kind of left, like, okay, I guess I'll just take.
- [42:30]
A
Take that one. Wow.
- [42:32]
B
Okay.
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A
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Shop avara.com Remember the name of our up because everyone's going to be asking where you got your festive outfit, and you're gonna have to tell them. Shopavara.com and make sure to tell them to use code toast for 20 off. Fourth story. Meghan Markle is, like, upsetting people again. And I'm at a place in my life where I'm, like, kind of becoming a Meghan Markle defender because people are just, like, coming at her too much and it's annoying. And I wish he would come at her husband because, like, he's the annoying, problematic one. It's not her, I'm telling you. However, with this new video that she put out out, like, I do understand, like, why people are freaking out. So she posted this, like, really cringe, like, celebration video that she, like, propped her phone up and her and Harry and some other lady, I don't know who that was, were watching the Dodgers in the World Series. They won a game and they're, like, celebrating and it's just like a cringe video. Unfortunately, like, Megan is just an influencer and I do believe that she, like, runs her own Instagram account. And, like, this is what we're going to get from. Just like, this is someone's mom. Like, yeah, she's not thinking about it. When you put out a TikTok, like, how many times do you watch it before you put it out? Like, a thousand. Thousand. You look. What? No, no, you just, like, post it raw.
- [46:40]
B
I like, I'll wash it through, like, once. That's it for my camera.
- [46:43]
A
But you won't think about, like, how does this make me look? Or like, like, what kind of thought process? What's your creative process?
- [46:49]
B
I don't. I try not to think about it too much because I feel like when I think about it too much, it.
- [46:53]
A
Just like, you won't post it, right? Well, I feel like Megan just, like, post things. Like, she.
- [46:58]
B
She probably needs to, like, take a second and be like, wait, I'm married.
- [47:02]
A
To, you know, Prince, right?
- [47:04]
B
A former prince. Like, I should probably look at, at this.
- [47:06]
A
So she posted a black and white Instagram story of her shrieking in delight and then ran over a hug her husband, Prince Harry, who was sitting in a reclining chair with his feet up. And then after bending down to give him a hug and a kiss, she continued to jump and down, jump up and down with her close friend Kelly in excitement. Oh, my God. She squealed. And Harry just like, sort of, like, chuckled. Now, the thing is, if you were just watch this video and you don't know who these people are.
- [47:28]
B
Yeah.
- [47:28]
A
You would think that, like, this is a man who hates his wife. Like, he's so not. She's, like, being cute and funny and sweet. One thing about me, I'm always gonna see the worst in Prince Harry. I cannot stand this man. I don't think, like, I think Megan gets all the hate for their relationship when it's him. If you watch a documentary, like, it was him who didn't protect her at the Royal Family. It was him who should have hired her a stylist. It was him who should have taught her all the rules. But no, he just, like, threw her in. She's like, sitting next to Queen Elizabeth as it's like Canadian slash American. Like, of course she doesn't know what the going on and so like all the hate that got sent her away, like I really, I blame him. 100 and so she's the one like posting them on Instagram so she's the one getting the hate. But like watch a video. Like, he's so mean. She's like excited about something. You know, it's like that Taylor Swift quote, like about cake pop. Like when someone's excited about something and you like kind of make fun of them instead of like getting excited with them. It's such an annoying fudgeing thing. And he's just like kind of. You could tell he's like, he feels like annoyed with her now. Again, it's just like a 10 second video. Maybe we shouldn't like look so much into it and there's like a window into their marriage. Like, sorry. Like this is what she gave us.
- [48:19]
B
And I'm way off to now looking.
- [48:20]
A
Into it and what I'm seeing is not good. I really, really don't like Prince Harry. So I am always just going to see the worst in him. But this video is not great for him. I'm sorry.
- [48:29]
B
But she, she looks fine though.
- [48:31]
A
Yeah. No, she's like, she's like a happy, go lucky, like fun loving gal.
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B
I feel bad. I loved her in su like that. Like she was like the biggest baddie ever. And so I don't know. I. But when they got married I thought it was the coolest thing and then everything kind of fell apart really bad. Wait, I know she was on top of the world and she would like everyone thought she was like so hot and so cool. And then I feel like that's such. Didn't like Princess Diana. Like didn't. Yeah.
- [48:54]
A
There are a lot of parallels. I do wish that it had worked out for her. Like that's kind of my biggest gripe with the whole situation and why I like hate Harry because like it would have been so cool for there to have been like an American divorce, half black woman in the royal family. Like why couldn't. And I think the like everyone had a part to play but Harry doesn't get enough for like it not working out on his behalf. Like earlier the tabloids were bad and I don't think everyone was super nice to her. But like Harry should have protected his wife more. And I really like. I, I watched the Netflix show. I'm not obsessed with this era for her. Like I think she's like kind of free falling. She has a shot. My, like, it's weird.
- [49:25]
B
Yeah.
- [49:26]
A
Do you think it's weird she has A shot. My.
- [49:28]
B
I mean, like, a little. Don't you have, like, better things to do?
- [49:31]
A
And, like, you're royal. Why do you have a shot?
- [49:33]
B
Yeah, like, you're. You're royal duchess. You are a duchess. And your children are like, princes. Princes.
- [49:38]
A
Yeah.
- [49:39]
B
And princess.
- [49:40]
A
Yeah. It's just weird.
- [49:41]
B
Yeah.
- [49:41]
A
No, I think.
- [49:42]
B
Why are you trying to get, like, that's for other people.
- [49:45]
A
Except we did get her jam.
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B
Oh.
- [49:47]
A
And my husband ate it. He said it was amazing. And my husband has, like, a very high culinary bar or jam or just, like, all things. And he comes into the house. He doesn't realize, like, I got sent this in pr. I'm like, we're not supposed to eat it. We're supposed to save it. It's from a princess. Like. And he's like, did you eat this apricot jam? I'm like, did you eat this apricot jam? He's like. He posted on his Instagram. He's like, I don't know where this jam came from. It's so good. Good. I'm like, it's like royal jam. Weren't supposed to eat it, but he said it was so delicious, like, for real.
- [50:13]
B
And did you try it?
- [50:13]
A
I'm not, like, a big apricot girl. Sorry.
- [50:16]
B
They should have sent, like, strawberry 1,000%.
- [50:18]
A
Obviously, the person packing the PR doesn't know that I, like, have the palette of, like, a sixth grader.
- [50:22]
B
Yeah. They were like, what?
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A
Our fifth and final story is about all the celebrities who ran the marathon. So the marathon was yesterday. Like I said. I was, like, on Tik Tok all night, crying, and I swear to God, like, I will run it. Not anytime soon, but, like, I will. And a lot of celebrities ran it, which is just another reason to do it, you know? You never know who you could run into.
- [50:37]
B
So true.
- [50:38]
A
Here are the celebrities and their times. Now. I. What was your brother's time?
- [50:42]
B
My brother's time was 410, but he had a lot of problems at mile 12, and it was, like, a whole thing. And then everyone.
- [50:48]
A
What kind of problems?
- [50:49]
B
He was just. Oh, my goodness. He thought, like, the whole, like, right side of his body started to go numb, and he's run, like, 12 miles every single time. He was running with his best friend, and they were supposed to do 3:15.
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A
Oh, that's what they were, like, pacing.
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B
Yeah, that's what they were pacing for. And so they were good. And then he just lost, like, all feeling.
- [51:07]
A
But he finished.
- [51:08]
B
He finished. Yeah, he finished that. 4:25. 4:20.
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A
Okay. 15 so my friend Emily, who is. Her first time. She ran in four hours. So, like, that's my benchmark for, like, these people. Because, like, honestly, some of these times are not good. Anthony Ramos from Everyone knows her from in the Heights. Original Casa Hamilton. 4 hours and 44 minutes. Okay, 44 minutes and longer than my friend Emily. Yeah, that's not so good.
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B
Everything literally baseline.
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A
So these two guys, I don't know them, but they are Death Cab for Cutie Ben Gibbard and Dave Pepper. 336 and 354. Okay, that's really good.
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B
Yeah, that's good.
- [51:42]
A
But I feel like it's easier for men to run faster. Like, there are biological differences between men and women. Sorry.
- [51:47]
B
There are.
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A
Claire Holt Slay. 3 hours and 39 minutes.
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B
Wow.
- [51:51]
A
Everyone knows her from HD. Nor Emma. Nor Clear. Exactly. A lot of people from Broadway, including Jordan Litz. He's in Wicked. He ran it in three hours and 40 minutes. And then he did Wicked that day.
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B
I heard.
- [52:07]
A
I think he did, too.
- [52:08]
B
Yeah. How do you do that?
- [52:09]
A
That's insane. That's how I'm like, yes, all people are created equally, but, like, we're really not. That's insane. Call Radke from Summer House. Four hours and four minutes. Four minutes longer than my friend Emily, but that's still really good. And then a lot of people from the Bachelor and the Bachelorette. Tyler Cameron. 5 hours and 38 minutes. That's kind of long. Like, not me saying that, as it would literally take me a whole day to run 26 miles.
- [52:30]
B
I think, like, what? Didn't he. I think he was, like, walking for. I think he was hoping that he was.
- [52:35]
A
Agreed. Agreed. I saw that, too.
- [52:36]
B
I wish I was like. That's very cute.
- [52:37]
A
Totally fine. You know what? I'm, like, being. I brush it off. I'm being a. Sorry. That was, like, actually mean of me.
- [52:41]
B
No, no. But you never know.
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A
You're right. You're right.
- [52:43]
B
No.
- [52:44]
A
Joey. Your friend say his last name.
- [52:47]
B
Grazed.
- [52:48]
A
I grazed a summer.
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B
It's like, grazie.
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A
I mean, I was gonna say Graziad today, so I'm glad that I asked you. He did it in 4 hours and 29 minutes. 29 minutes longer than my friend Emily. Matt James. He's like a professional. He did 3 hours and 31 minutes. That's really good. Joe Amabile. Grocery store Joe. 3 hours and 49 minutes. And then Tanner. I don't know who that is. Four and a half hours.
- [53:06]
B
That's Joey's friend.
- [53:07]
A
Oh, that's Joey's Friend.
- [53:08]
B
So Joey Tanner Cotard.
- [53:10]
A
Oh, they did it. Oh, by the way, their times are three seconds off. They obviously did it together. And then three people from Love Island, Nick, who's dating Alandria, four hours and 42 minutes. 42 minutes longer than my friend Emily. Brian, who I hate, 4 hours and 32 minutes. And then Elon, the cutie Jewish man from Canada, obsessed. Three hours and 20 minutes.
- [53:28]
B
That's why he's like a big runner too.
- [53:30]
A
I didn't even know that.
- [53:32]
B
I don't know. I feel like he just looks like a runner.
- [53:35]
A
I feel like whenever people talk about certain reality shows, your name gets thrown around a lot. Like Summer House. Would you ever.
- [53:42]
B
No, No, I could. Not any show.
- [53:43]
A
Like not dating. Just like any sort of.
- [53:46]
B
Any show possibly. I mean, like, there's ones I feel like I would always talk to Kelsey about. She was like, you should be on the Bachelor. And then she was like, you should definitely not be on the Bachelor.
- [53:56]
A
Yeah, I feel like you shouldn't actually.
- [53:57]
B
No, I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no.
- [54:00]
A
The only show I could see you doing because I do feel like you have a similar vibe, although you don't live in New York, is Summer House.
- [54:05]
B
Really?
- [54:05]
A
Yeah, because it's like, it's about like fun young people going to the Hamptons for the summer. You do go to the Hamptons for the summer.
- [54:10]
B
True.
- [54:11]
A
I think they could use like a fresh energy like yours and you're a DJ and they're like always like playing music. I don't know, I just feel like it'd be a good fit.
- [54:17]
B
I'd. For all the parties they invited me to a ton. I like, honestly run like, the people. No, I run into them all the time.
- [54:25]
A
So there's like a connection. It wouldn't be like a random casting. Think about it.
- [54:28]
B
I don't know, maybe. Maybe I'll.
- [54:30]
A
Maybe.
- [54:30]
B
I don't know. I don't know how. Well, I do think you could live.
- [54:32]
A
In a house though. Like you always stay in your own house in the Hampton. So like, how do you then like, stay in a house with like, other people?
- [54:37]
B
No, I don't think that you're kind of spoiled, like. Yeah, I'm so spoiled. I'd be like, no, no, no. Like I'm just.
- [54:41]
A
I'm going to stay at my house, but I'll see you guys tomorrow.
- [54:43]
B
Yeah, it would be like, oh, see you guys at the pool party. Cuz that's what they always do. They throw pool parties.
- [54:48]
A
They don't really go out a Lot. It's hard for them to get per in the Hamptons. Like, a lot of they. I think they stay in Sag harbor and like, the townships really don't like that there's a show. So they don't give them permits to film anywhere. That's why they're never filming anywhere besides the house and, like, random restaurants. Yeah, they can't go anywhere. Cool.
- [55:02]
B
I feel like. Yeah, no, I don't think they do because I imagine, like, the big cameras, it ruins the vibe.
- [55:07]
A
It runs the vibe and you know, Montague and all these, like, it's like small town energy, even though it's become like an influencer hotspot.
- [55:12]
B
Yeah. But the Hamptons, like, hate when people come. Like, they literally. Even when I go there, I've been going there. So since I don't. I think, like five years or something. Because my ex boyfriend a house there. So I went there every single summer. And then when we broke up, boyfriend.
- [55:25]
A
Who has a house in the Hamptons, though, like, you know, say what you want, but, like, you know, it's nice. It's nice.
- [55:28]
B
No, it was nice. And then when I broke up with him because he cheated on me, I was like, you know what? There's one thing I'm not losing out of this relationship, and it's not a Hampton summer.
- [55:37]
A
Yeah. So now you rent your own house.
- [55:38]
B
Yes.
- [55:39]
A
Also good.
- [55:40]
B
Which is like independent woman things because, like, he did it with his parents, and his parents were there, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, no, no, no. Like, I'm too grown.
- [55:48]
A
Yes.
- [55:48]
B
I can't be hanging out with your parents anymore.
- [55:51]
A
I have to tell you, you slayed your first time at the Fast5. I know you were a little nervous. You absolutely crushed it.
- [55:55]
B
No, I was scared. No, no, I not, not, not like scared, But I was like, you talk really fast, but on the pace.
- [56:01]
A
Yeah, but you're really keeping up. I'm really proud of you right now. So are you doing more shows? Where can people follow you? Come see you, promote, do your thing.
- [56:08]
B
Oh, my gosh. Okay. I have a song coming out very, very soon, which I'm very excited about. So go stream it. Go check out my Spotify, my Apple music. My name is Xander Pole. X A N D R A P O H L. I don't know why I spelled it out like that.
- [56:21]
A
No, it's cute.
- [56:22]
B
I have so many shows coming up. I'm going so many places, and I'm really excited to share with you guys all the aspects of my life yes. Yeah, it's gonna be fun, guys.
- [56:32]
A
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- [56:55]
B
Bye.