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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a great day. My flu, like, symptoms have subsided minimally. Minimally?
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No. You've, like, crossed over. God forbid you've peaked.
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Yes, yes, yes. And I'm back, ready to go. We have, like, not actually a lot to discuss today because Love island last episode could have been an email, was
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a piece of garbage.
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And I, like, our Love island takes are so deeply unpopular. It's insane that, like, people were so mad what we said about Carlin Anaya,
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really, you guys weren't ready for that. But come back in a year and let me know how that age.
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Those are the Amaya papaya stans.
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Yeah. Yeah, they are.
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Feels good.
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Yeah. We will bore you with Love island at the end of the show.
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Right as just want to remind everyone the weekly programming has updated slightly since Love Island. Dear Toasters, which was originally on Tuesdays, is now on Thursdays to make room for our hugely unpopular Love island recaps.
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And after last night's episode, I've doubled down on the fact everything I felt that I will not be watching automatically next year.
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Yeah, last night's episode was particularly bad. We'll save it for the Love island recap. Before Love Island, I tried to watch soccer, right? I was so bored and I was getting annoyed that, like, Love island was ruining my life because, like, it starts at 8:35 and the FIFA World cup started at 8 and I really wanted to be like a girl who watched sports. By 8:35, I'd really seen everything I needed to see. Soccer is so boring. And I feel like we were talking about, like, why has the whole world become obsessed with soccer and just like, hasn't taken in America and it's not for lack of trying.
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Yeah.
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Messi plays her Inter Miami. David Beckham came to L. A. Like, it just hasn't taken off in the way that other leagues have. And it's because it's boring. Like that's. It's as simple and as complicated as that.
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I just feel like you sort of have to be there, you know?
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What sense?
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Like to be in the stadium and feel the energy.
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Oh, and we lost, by the way.
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But I also find, like, a lot of sports watching on tv, like, boring. Now I can find the joy in it because but now I, like, like watching football because there's all this, like, lore and, you know, the players and stuff. But I think, like, the way it felt watching soccer for you yesterday was the way it felt for us watching football five years ago, where it's like, well, I have no idea what's going on. And also, like, I actually know the rules of soccer. I know the game. It's taken me a really long time to understand football. At least if I'm watching soccer, I know what's happening.
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So I. I think that, like, when Taylor Swift started going to football games, like, the MCs, everybody, like, stepped their pussy up. Like, the networks had more graphics. They were, like, explaining it to people because a lot of people were new here and they weren't understanding, like, the rules and stuff. I have, like, a lot of criticisms for Also, like, the MCs and the fox network. Like, bad job, bad job all around. Like, where were the graphics explaining it? Like, a lot of people watching in America. This is our first time. Like, we have no idea what's going on. We needed that, like, that Taylor Swift level of introduction. We needed interesting graphics, perhaps a chart.
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They do that for the Olympics, too. Like, they explain every athlete. Instead, it was just like a live stream.
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It was a live stream with some, like, grumpy old men in the background who I wasn't even listening to. Like, it was so boring and cuddled me so confused because I thought the World cup was streaming exclusively on Peacock and I could not find it in English. And I was like, where is the English? It's streaming exclusively on Peacock in Spanish. Everything else is on Fox. So it took me. I watched first 15 minutes in Spanish.
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That is confusing.
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It was extremely confusing. And overall, like, not a positive experience. I really wanted to get into it, but then we lost. So, like, I don't think we're going very much further.
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Yeah, I think that's it for the US from what I saw this morning, we're eliminated.
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So I'm good. Yeah, I tried.
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Who's everyone rooting for? Argentina.
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Still. I genuinely don't know enough about the lore, so I can't really make an educated decision.
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Yeah, I don't know any. Like, I didn't even watch as much as you did last night. I haven't watched anything so boring. As I've said. Like, you can't have a family, watch Love island, run a business. Run a business, have a job, three meals a day, have friends, make sourdough, play mahjong. Sourdough every other day. Mahjong every other day.
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Try being an influence.
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Watch the World Cup. Like, it's. It's not gonna happen for me.
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And that's okay. I know your limits, you know, And I tried. I just really wasn't into, like, all that much. So I did watch Love Island. Love island prevailed, as it always does. I'm counting the days till it's over.
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I think it's six more.
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And what are the stories today? Like, anything?
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No, it's giving Summer Tuesday. You know, everyone's sort of, I guess, coming back from the wedding.
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Right. All those who weren't invited are on European vacation.
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And I think everyone who was there is just sort of like, gleaning how much can I post?
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Yeah, people are starting.
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It seems as though I can post a carousel with my outfits and reference TNT and also post other things from the week in there. And that's the extent of what people are posting.
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I want to talk about, like, one of the major feedbacks we got from yesterday's episode, because a lot of people, when discussing, like, the Blake v. Taylor discourse, a lot of people were like, you guys didn't even consider the fact. Like, maybe Taylor and I never considered.
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I considered it.
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People were commenting. Maybe you guys didn't consider the fact that Taylor invited Blake, but Blake declined. Like, you're telling me Blake, who's, like, seriously working overtime these days to get back in the good graces of the public, post on social media, go to events, wear her outfits, get paparazzi. She wouldn't go to this, like, beloved affair.
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Beyond that, I considered it the wedding. Because sometimes you can't go to every wedding. You can't dance at every wedding. Like, things happen. People have lives. Even though, like, 1500 people, like, did find a way to make it to msg, she lives in New York City. You can make that argument. If the wedding was somewhere very.
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And she was bought in upstate New York, she was in the state.
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She has a place in New York City. And when she's not there, she's in New York State upstate. Like, it couldn't have been more convenient for her. So while I considered it, I tossed it out because it's not the case.
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I didn't even consider it for half a second. Because if there's any sort of remnants of a friendship there, like, going not going to someone's wedding is like, the final nail in the coffin. Not inviting to someone someone to your wedding is the final animal copy. So, like, there's. I'm sorry, there's no way. Yeah, there's no way.
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No, there's no way.
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But thanks for bringing it up, because I didn't. I actually didn't even consider it. It never even crossed my mind that someone would do that.
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People also said that, like, if you read all the legal documents, it's clear why Taylor is done with her. Which I'm not going to be reading all the legal documents, but they said that in the legal documents, like, Blake threatened to release all of the text messages with Taylor. So, like, that would be friendship ending for Taylor in addition to the person that she murdered.
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Correct.
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Correct.
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And I'm not going to go, like, deep into this because people, once again, like, hate everything that I say. But I just want, you know, like, no matter how many comments you leave, no matter how many videos you make, I don't care.
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But people are using the fact that Taylor has clearly turned on Blake, you
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know, to support it. It does support that. And I don't even really. People like Claudia ride so hard for Blake. I actually don't. In Taylor v. Blake, I'm talking more in, like, the Baldoni case. Like, I'm telling you. I know. You know, I don't want to get.
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No.
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But I don't get into it.
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But this is what people are saying. I just. I'm curious how you would respond. Like, Taylor discarding Blake due to the aftershocks of Baldoni v. Blake. Like, does that not change how you feel about Baldoni v. Blake, if even Taylor is done with her?
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Because I don't think that Taylor and Blake's relationship ended because of Blake's role in the Baldoni case. I think it ended because Taylor brought Blake brought Taylor into it. So it's like, I think Taylor would have had her back in the case. Even if everyone thinks she's wrong and she made up all the accusations or whatever, I think Taylor would have had her back. Like, that's her friend. But. But then Taylor, like, bringing her into it, having to get deposed and threaten to release a text message is, like, now Taylor's personally invested, and that's where she draws the line. That's what I think.
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Got it. But. But that doesn't even seem like the whole story. Not separately. That doesn't seem like the whole story
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because people have no idea.
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Taylor, I. I'll go depose for my friend. Yeah. Put me on the stand.
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Right.
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I don't know, like, if my friend's telling the truth. And I was there the whole time and I was in the apartment doing the same meeting. I was there for the shakedown.
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Yeah, right, right. The group shakedown.
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And now you need me as a witness. I'm there. The Godm.
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No, something else happened. Like, people don't really know she murdered someone.
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She did.
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Yeah. No, and I. I don't know what that is. Yeah, because Taylor's like the. The girl, the loyalty girl. Like, Taylor wrote a whole album about the people who weren't there for her when it was unpopular. Like, that is her least favorite quality in another person to. So to assume that she did that to Blake. It's unconscionable.
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So I think she hates murder more than she hates disloyalty.
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Crime is bad. Like, we all agree.
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I'm against crime, and I'm against murder.
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That's very brave of you to say, and you're just brave for that.
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I know, but I have to speak my truth. You know what I mean? Like, you just can't silence me when it comes to important stuff.
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Important things like crime.
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Yeah, of course. So there's a little more, like, wedding, you know, bits and bobs.
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Yeah. People are, like, putting their carousels and, like, putting little Easter eggs, if you will. Slide 4 or 5. Yes. Chanel bag.
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Yes. Slide 4 or 5 is where the Easter eggs are found.
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Yeah. Are you finding that, like, there is a decent amount of. Or is it just, like, the sides of Twitter and tick tock that I'm on? That there's, like, a decent amount of negative response to the wedding in general?
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I. There's always going to be, like, you know, haters hating. Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. I actually think there's something that's, like, not being said, which is. Which is, like, what the. They raffled off Chanel bags in a car.
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Yeah.
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And not being said by, like, real people. Of course trolls are going to say. But, like, we're not listening to them. I'm saying, like, what the.
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Yeah, the Chanel bag. When. When I saw. So they have debunked a couple of things, Right. Like, they said that there was a documentary, Tree Pain came out and said, that's absolutely not true. But there have been other rumors that they auctioned off a car, a Chanel bag. And I'm like, there's literally no way. Like, Taylor doesn't even wear Chanel. Like, there's no way. And then I saw a girl put in her carousel a black Chanel bag.
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And, like, she's the winner.
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The little raffle ticket that said TNT on it.
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Yeah. And that seems to be factual. They raffled off the getaway car, the convertible from Their first like, sorry.
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And it's like, where's the money going to the cost of the wedding to a charity.
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It's a raffle at their wedding. Yeah.
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No, the Chanel bag. And I heard that like people were waiting in lines for the Chanel bags. Like, what?
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It's like a carnival bag.
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That's actually not true. Not everyone there can. But like it's like a carnival. Like that's not a thing you do at weddings.
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No. And also I imagine if it was like a three day wedding, you have to like sort of, you know, build up the activities.
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You get desperate.
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This was like a normal length wedding. One night only started at like 4 or 5 o' clock and ended around 1 2. Like when's for every wedding I've gone to in that hour? I. I don't know when there would be time for like a full on raffle.
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And I've actually been.
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And they talk about like the 40 minute vows and everything was long, of course.
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Ceremony, cocktail hour. When is the raffle?
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When and why is the raffle?
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Yeah. And it's like, is Brad Pitt and Inez. I just follow in as De Ramon on Instagram. Highly recommend. Like highly recommend. I don't know. Like, I know she's technically a jewelry designer, but now she's a socialite.
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Right.
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She's Brad Pitt's carbon. Oh my God. She's like Audemars piguet. Like she's so sickening. And she gets like fully dolled up for every event. Was she waiting in line?
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Like who waiting in line for the raffle?
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I heard that the Chanel bag raffle, like had a huge line.
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Oh, like a silent auction.
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I'm not entirely sure. Yeah, so it's like that's what you do at a charity event. What's the charity?
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And they gave to charity.
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Maybe it was for charity so they
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made everyone else pay more.
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Oh, I also, I did get, in
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addition to 26 million, some helpful feedback
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about the NYPD police presence. And I guess this happens at all, like large events for Madison Square Garden. If you need to close streets, if you need a major police presence. Madison Square Garden actually pays out of pocket for that to the nypd. So it is actually like a good
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thing included in the cost of the venue.
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So Taylor did not like use taxpayer resources. I also heard that the event was completely run on generators so as not to like take anything from like she was trying to dodge any and all sort of accusations. And yet you do pay for the police presence. You pay for the street Closers, you pay for the permits and you pay, I guess, for the energy used.
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Yeah, but like, Maddie, she pays the venue and. The venue.
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Right, the venue. Right. It's part of the cost of the wedding.
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Yeah.
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So, like, the criticisms. Because I. I did think, like, actually, like a valid criticism is like, what is like police resources being used. You call the cops in the city, takes 35 minutes for them to come, but they're actually wedding. So for her to not use, like, city resources. And then, of course, the $26 million, like, she's really trying to get ahead of everything. And you know what? So far, like, every criticism it has been, I want to know, like, what the. The raffle, are they. Is that for money? I mean, for charity?
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Yeah. I'm going to reserve judgment, but, like, that's the only thing where I'm like, what?
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That's a weird thing to do at a wedding. I agree.
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What in the. What.
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That's what you do at a carnival.
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Yeah.
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Or a charity event. Which this is not.
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Yeah.
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Unless it was.
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So I'm. I'm seeing like, not like an overall.
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Maybe it's going towards the Donna Kelsey renovation foundation.
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Maybe she needs new windows for her home in Orlando. Maybe it is. But so, no, I'm not really upside from like, you know, basement chores. I'm really not seeing, like, hey, everyone's, like, excited, but there's also not a lot to work with.
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So that's, at this point, the only
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thing we haven't seen. Seen her dress. We haven't seen decor. We haven't seen anything. Yeah, you would just be. You would be hating just because you're a hater.
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They have, like, come out and debunked several rumors. One, the documentary.
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Two, love a documentary.
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I would. I just want to say I'm very upset that that was debunked. Two, that. I guess one of the rumors was that, like the buffet lines. Like, like the lines.
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Yeah, I saw the lines were so well made, people's feet hurt and that they were eating standing, standing up, because,
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you know, a 1500 person wedding. And that one tree pain also was quick to debunk. I heard it. You know, Ren's Dumois actually had to issue like a correction saying that it was the most well run buffet anyone had ever seen. They did the same of event making. Yes, they did.
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Buffet.
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Yeah. You know, actually, if I were to be getting married now, one of the things I would change in addition to getting my mole removed, would be having a buffet. It's such a vibe. Like the order. It's, like, very formal and traditional. We sit, we have a speech. Yeah, but, like, you want people to have fun anytime. I've been to, like, a most fun wedding ever. It was a buffet.
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Yeah, I do. I do see the merits of a buffet. And I'll never knock a buffet, but
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I also love a buffet because I.
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I do also love the seated dinner. Assuming, like, it's a party.
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Three course meat course, which I assume Taylor had great offerings. I heard shrimp was being loaded in. And lobster. And Sartiano's truck.
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Oh, interesting.
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Caviar.
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The marine life that was killed.
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I'm ready for more. Think of the marine life. I'm ready for more. Like, I've only. I've sat here now, second day in a row, like, grasping at straws. We're just, like, making stuff up, pulling from carousels.
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That's why there's not a lot of hate, because there's nothing to hate.
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Right. I just need a picture of her, of her dress. Up or down? Bangs or no bangs?
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I think she wore up with bangs.
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Up with bangs during the ceremony. No, no.
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Down for the party.
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No, no, opposite.
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That is the move, by the way. Down for the ceremony. Up for the party.
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Definitely.
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That's the move.
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Hair is up. Like you're sweating.
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Yeah. And you don't have to worry about, like, did my hair fall? Of course.
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Of course.
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You just, like, slick it all back into the bun.
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And apparently their car was seen, like, going about in New York. Assuming they're in this one vehicle that everybody now knows they, like, were going out last night. So they're not on their honeymoon. I don't know. Maybe it's a decoy. It's kind of helpful to them that everyone knows that this is their car because they can say, oh, we're here, but we're there. I think they're probably on a honeymoon.
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Yeah.
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You think she's getting pregnant? I feel like when we've watched her documentaries in the past, she always stresses that, like, her life is planned three years in advance. Like, album, tour, album. Like, you know, you can't. It doesn't make way for, like, romance or spontaneity. And I feel like since she met Travis, like, a lot of that has gone. And especially since the ERAS tour was so successful. She's not one of these artists that has to be on the schedule. It's like, we will come when you decide. It's not like, you know, sometimes if you don't stay on the hamster wheel, like, you get. So I think a lot of that is no longer the case for her. So I'm ready.
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Yeah, I think she could do it. Like, I know everyone thinks like, oh, you know, I can't right now. It's never a good time, but it's always the right time.
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But. But I do want to say that's beautiful. But I do want to say I do think it's also the right time.
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Yeah, but you know, but it's never like it's a good stretch of 10 plus months.
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Of course. Of course.
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But it's always the right time.
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Chilling.
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Well, I guess we could get into the stories because we are already talking about the wedding some more. Without further ado, da da da do it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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Our first story. Just finishing out our lured this wedding conversation.
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I need more because this is like, the type of thing I could talk about ad nauseam for two weeks. And it's day two, and it's like there's nothing left.
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Okay. Did you see the invitation?
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B
I did see the invitation and the
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person who told on themselves. Yes.
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B
Okay. So like we said yesterday, it is really impressive, given how big the wedding was, how little has leaked, even after, like, we literally, like we said, we're grasping at straws. So things like this systems put in place. Makes sense. This guy is like a brother of a childhood friend.
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A
Yeah. And Travis is Ashish Ferguson.
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So basically, they sent out an Evite, and on everyone's invitation, it said their name.
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A
It was watermarked.
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Watermarked all over in a way that
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you couldn't crop it out.
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So if you sent the picture to anyone, it was very clear who screenshotted, who snitched, who leaked.
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And I guess that's why nobody shared
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anything up until we did not see the invitation.
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And we had heard, you know, it just said when and where, but not the exact location, which it did say, you're invited. July 3, 2026, Manhattan. Love Taylor and Travis. One night only, early evening, black tie.
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People, you know, because there's literally nothing for us to talk about, people are theorizing that Taylor actually painted it because, you know, we've known that she does watercolor. And actually in one of her lyric videos, this matches the style.
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Like, there's cracking up.
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There's nothing to talk about.
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There's nothing to talk about. But, like, if this. This vibe of the picture of the painting, like, sets the mood for the wedding, you know, sometimes I told the
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mood was like a garden.
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A
Sometimes the invitation's a little taste of the wedding.
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B
Yeah.
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If you can get your ducks in order.
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B
If you have, like, a vision. Yes.
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A
Yeah, but, like, sometimes you do that.
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B
What's happening? Like, invitations out, like. Yeah.
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But if you can tie it back to what people can expect at the wedding, that's really beautiful. So I love this vibe. It's.
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B
You know what it's giving Secret Garden.
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A
The lakes.
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B
Well, hopefully not, but yeah, the.
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A
The. Yeah, the lakes. Right.
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B
It looks like more like Like a romantic. Let me see.
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A
There's like a lake.
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B
There is a lake, but like a lake. It's giving. Is there a lake?
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A
Like a lake?
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B
Like a pond?
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Like a look alike the pond, you know, Walden Pond.
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B
Take me to the lakes where all the people. It's when to die I don't belong and my beloved not. Since you're ruining the word beloved, can
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A
I borrow your lip gloss?
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B
Yeah, because of the gloss. Yeah, sure.
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A
I just need something.
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B
Like I looked sickly on yesterday's episode. I mean, I was sick, but like, I was wearing no lipsticking the lighting. When I don't wear lipstick, I actually look, like, genuinely ill. Yeah, like I belong in a hospital, not a podcast studio.
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A
Yes, as in I. As do I not.
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B
Oh, you don't do. But you also. You can agree it's okay.
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A
Yeah, yeah, but I wasn't saying it in that moment.
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B
Okay.
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A
But I just think lipstick just gives a nice touch.
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B
Lipstick lasts longer. So. Yes. A. Sheesh.
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A
Ferguson is going to jail.
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I wonder if. If Taylor and Travis are mad or like they got. They actually got away with so much. The fact that they had a 1500 person wedding is insane. And really, before it happened, nothing was leaked. Except that it was Madison Square Garden, but like, nothing consequential. So now do you think they care?
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I definitely think, like, Ashish, who wasn't super close with anyone, he was generous to be invited, will stay. Not close.
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B
Damn. You know, but like, we appreciate you, Ashish, but I'm sure Taylor doesn't.
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A
Yeah, this is a good way to like, know who your friends are. But who knows the manner in which Ashish leaked it? Like, maybe he just sent it to
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his girlfriend and like his girlfriend was a snitch.
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A
Right, Right.
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B
But it doesn't matter because it's his name on the invitation.
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A
Yeah. And it's like, did the person who leaked it not realize that this was gonna destroy a. She's like that it says your name.
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How can you not notice? It's everywhere? It's really smart.
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A
Yeah, it is really smart.
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B
That's what they do when you get like a screener to a TV show that hasn't aired. Like, we get them for Bravo and they have my email, like all over it. So never like, leak a clip because it's very smart. It traces right back to you. It keeps people honest for the most part.
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Also, Gracie Abrams posted a carousel of like her wedding. Look. And there's a photo of Joe Alwyn in the carousel.
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B
What?
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A
In.
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B
Wait, what?
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A
In the carousel?
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B
Hold on.
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She Took a picture of her TV screen watching the favorite and it's the scene of Joe Alwyn and Emma Stone.
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B
What's wrong with her?
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I don't know. And also, like, she was with Olivia Rodrigo.
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B
Like, okay, that's not her fault because that was like a work thing for.
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She's just engaging in traders.
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B
Red dress.
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A
So ready for her to get the boot.
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B
Who crazy from Taylor's life. Why? I don't know.
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A
I just like drama.
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B
She wore the red dress.
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A
All right.
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B
Yeah. The screen capture of Joe Alwyn from the favorite in the same carousel as the outfit you wore to Taylor Swift's wedding is crazy.
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A
Yeah. Bye. Bye.
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B
This is so crazy. Joe liked this post.
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A
Joe liked it.
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B
That's what someone commented. Now people are also mad. She's smoking a cigarette. Like, seriously, grow up.
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Yeah.
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Wait. I just want to go back to how weird this is. I did not see this. And I just think, what can you expect? What type of behavior can you expect from someone with that haircut? Dead ass.
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A
Yeah. I feel like Gracie gets away with a lot. And I think her tight. Gracie ate her days are numbered. Wow.
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B
I mean, this is and, like, weird.
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Taylor did the song. I knew it. I knew you. Like, she obviously didn't care. She did. Because it's not bad yet, but it's going down. Her days are numbered.
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B
I just want to say I think that this is, like, cut off worthy behavior.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. I agree.
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What the is wrong with her? Unless that's not the dress she wore to the wedding. And because people are just assuming if you're posting a carousel and in one of the pictures you're wearing a gown. We are assuming. Sabrina Carpenter just said that. We're assuming that that's what you wore to the wedding. Wedding.
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A
Yeah, I think that she did because she also posted this picture of, like, her in a car. You know, Page Six is reporting it. It's like, that's. This is her wedding.
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B
It totally was.
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A
Yeah.
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What the. And it's not like, the favorite is like an insanely big popular movie that, like, everyone.
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I couldn't help but to post it.
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I couldn't help but to watch it.
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And also, like, she could have posted a screenshot from a scene that he's not in.
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No. Gracie Abrams. Like, you're weird for that.
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Your days are numbered a thousand percent.
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And Taylor's generous with Gracie. Like, Taylor has a lot of friends that she. Who are also musicians.
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A
Who do you think it's because Gracie's
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dad is J.J. and she's getting, like, nepo Treatment within.
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A
Yeah, like, she's powerful.
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B
Sort of. She's not.
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A
No, but she could be one called a JJ and what.
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B
What is the director of Star wars gonna do to Taylor Swift and Lost? Such a good show. But wait, just really quickly, I think.
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I think Taylor respects powerful directors like Steven Spielberg.
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B
She definitely does, like, get Nepo treatment within the day daughter universe. Because there are a lot of. I mean, think of him.
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A
Like, if Olivia Rodrigo was the D of a famous director, I think things might have been different.
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B
Like, Taylor has a lot of musical friends. Selena Gomez. Have the two ever done a project together? Not only does Taylor, they have the song on Gracie's album, which is a bigger thing than having someone on your album. It's like such a. They're always writing songs together. Like, she gets special. She gets special preferential treatment, for sure. I wonder.
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Tuning.
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Selena Gomez is, like, miffed that, like, the two. They. They have done one thing together and it was iconic. And I mean, I could. But why would I want to at the 1989 tour? And, like, that's literally it.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Imagine Slate is not easy to work with.
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A
She's better as an actress.
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B
I actually agree.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm just.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm trying to say something in the combo.
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B
Yeah. Okay. Gracie Abrams, you're weird for that. Like, you are on the list.
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A
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Number number two.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
Prince Harry is having Toronto. I'm obsessed because Prince Harry has been disinvited from staying at Buckingham Palace.
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B
So Prince Harry, very unclear what happened. Like, I read it, and I'm not
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A
sure I'm gonna tell you everything that has been said to have happened. He arrived in London on Monday afternoon. I think his trial was ongoing. He was supposed to bring his family. And I remember seeing articles a couple days ago, like, they're all going back. Yeah. To London, which is very big. No, he wound up just going.
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B
And what's the trial like with a magazine? Right.
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A
Yeah, I think so. He was, like, suing his reps on Monday. Said that he had accepted an invitation to stay at Buckingham palace this week after finalizing his security plans, only for palace staffers to brief that it would be. Be impossible for him to stay there because he missed a July 3 deadline to let them know that he was coming.
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B
Yeah, I heard he waited, like, weeks to respond, and he said I was getting my security detail in place. So you couldn't accept, like, so sorry. Yeah, the beds need to be made.
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A
Like, I can't believe they invited him to stay.
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B
It's actually insane. We have this conversation every time he goes back to the UK because there's always drama. He wants his and his family's security detail paid for by Buckingham palace, aka the taxpayer. It's like, why the would we spend $3 on you and your family when you guys wake up every day thinking about how you could destroy us? It's crazy that he even wants to stay there. It's so weird. Like, they don't hate him enough. No, they don't.
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A
And then, like, some, you know, insiders are like, if they wanted him to stay there, they would find they don't want. Even if he arrived in the middle of the night, let's face it, they're
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B
saying they don't want him rat in your house.
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A
Let me tell you how I love this. I hope you invite him all the time, and then every day, do it every day.
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B
So drama. Always. There's never been a trip where he goes and there isn't drama with his accommodations or his security. He's such a diva. It's like, you wanted to be independent. Now you want to come home and have everybody wipe your ass and put diaper cream on it. Like, stop.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I. There's no one on this earth I actually hate more than him. Yeah. So they didn't go. The kids. It was gonna be a big deal that the kids were going back.
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A
Yeah. And not that I saw that they did not go.
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B
Like, genuinely. I know he has to go for work. Even though, like, you. You have lawyers and stuff. He doesn't have to know.
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A
He's, like, unemployed.
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B
He's obsessed with, like, going back and getting attention and starting stuff. Because I think he likes to reaffirm his victim narrative in the States because people are on to him. When they first left, people really believe
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A
it's over for them.
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B
Right. People really champion them and really believe him. And slowly but surely, it was like, I kind of think you're the problem. And I think he goes back to, like, sort of get more.
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A
Look, they remember what they did, and
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they're out of the house. Like, they won't pay for my security. I think that he. It's a strategic thing, big for him
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A
to, like, curry more and, like, drum up more sympathy.
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B
But people are so over them. Like, nothing they do is gonna work except go away. Going away is such a powerful thing. And I think that about Blake Lively, too. Like, people are like, she'll never come back. They say that about people all the time. And people come back. They really do. There's something very Powerful about going away for a long period of time. Reputation, like, Taylor was really hated. We forget, because she has come so far, but she was really, really disliked by even a lot of her own fans. They felt it was, like, very duplicitous and like, this narrative was being paid into her. Going away is such a powerful move. The thing that they refuse to do. They need the money. I know.
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A
Yeah. And they've, like, sort of quieted at times, but every time they pop up long enough. Every time they pop up, it's like whack a mole.
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B
There are a lot of people who seriously need to go away. Just it. Have it worked with Anne Hathaway.
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A
Yeah.
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B
She went away for a long time. There needs to be, like, a retreat where celebrities go. That's like image rehab. We just, like, you can enjoy it.
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A
I just need to go away. Megan and Harry's, like, the size of. And the scale of, like, their. Their scandal, or whatever you want to call it, is just so big. Like, global historic.
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B
It'll. It will be in textbooks, you know,
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A
like, there's no, like, oh, this too shall pass.
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B
Yes, I know, but I'm talking about.
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A
It's not like, oh, I made a cringy speech.
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B
And then that was the case in the uk, Which I don't think they care about anymore in the States.
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A
I think Americans are done. I feel like.
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B
I think they think Americans are stupid.
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A
We all feel used here.
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B
Oh, I don't. Because I never really bought their whole shtick, but.
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A
But we've had to, you know, like, how are you gonna say, like, oh, you're lying when someone's telling you these horrible things?
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B
It's true.
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A
Like, you wouldn't. And you wouldn't even think that.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But then you see their character over time, and it's like, oh, it's not the most honest.
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B
I just know that that would be William and that Kate. They just hate him.
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A
Yeah. And there.
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B
It just sounds like he's back again, starting stuff. He's never come. And that there hasn't been drama.
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A
It's true. But I hope that every day you guys invite him, and then every day you rescind the invitation.
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B
To have gotten invited and not responded within the allotted time is such crazy person behavior. Very sincere energy, and then playing the victim. They kick me out. It's like, no, these things have rules. Like you. You've told us many times, a firm is very strict, and there are all these rules and policies and protocols calls. So, like, you know.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And you just are, like, letting the Invitation. Hang in the air. You're so lucky to get it.
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A
You shouldn't have even be invited in the first place.
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B
Literally. That would never be. That's like, literally me inviting, like, Taylor Lorenz to come stay at my house.
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A
Right.
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B
Only something. Only a crazy person.
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A
And giving her, like, a wide berth of a.
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B
You know, take as long as you want to decide.
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A
Up until two days before I need to know, you know, just to wash the water, food.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then she accepts. Yeah.
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B
Why would they let him stay there? And I know, like, the palace is so big, and it's like this. It's a cottage by the river or whatever, but, like, so that's my property line, bitch. You're not coming. You're not coming.
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A
No, no. They're too forgiving.
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B
They are too forgiving. And they don't even. I think it's Charles, like, that's very much his energy, really. I think not for Harry, but in life, he's like a big softy.
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A
Yeah. In life. But I think he fucking hates it.
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B
Well, I think he's got a stinking suspicion that ain't his boy, you know? So it's like, why I gotta be nice to the stranger?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like, we're done here.
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B
Allegedly. You're done. We're done here. We're done.
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A
Are you ready for our next day, sir? Are you ready for our next story? Some more family news. Jonas Brothers announced a return to Madison Square Garden. They have announced the Burning up tour all over again. August 20th and 21st at Madison Square Garden.
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B
A lot of action for the Garden this week. I think I have to go. Like, the Burning up era, like, was the peak of my Jonas Brothers fandom. And I'm like, really?
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A
I think the Jonas Brothers.
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B
But I am, like, actually a fan at heart.
- [36:21]
A
We all are.
- [36:22]
B
Yeah. Does this mean they're, like, only playing old music? What is the.
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A
So is it a reunion created as a celebration of the music, the memories and the connection that has spanned nearly two decades. This special event brings one of the Jonas Brothers most unforgettable live experience back to the world's most famous Arema with Arena with celebrating everything that has followed.
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B
You know, people say, like, Bruno Mars is in debt. He's like, chained to the bottom of the MGM casino because he's like. Owes him so much money. People, like, need to start about the Jonas Brothers.
- [36:51]
A
So this is like a. A recreation of the original Burning up tour, which was an exhilarating time in their lives.
- [36:56]
B
Go to that as kids.
- [36:57]
A
I don't think so. I Don't think I did. Maybe you did. And getting to the chance to relive that with the fans while celebrating everything that's happened since means the world.
- [37:03]
B
Plus, I appreciate that, like, they.
- [37:05]
A
Everything that's happened since is giving, like, new music, but.
- [37:08]
B
Right.
- [37:09]
A
We can forgive it.
- [37:10]
B
I feel like, you know, every time I go on tour, I like, watch so many tick tocks and I always, like, end up wanting to go, but I don't. So I.
- [37:15]
A
This One is it August 20th and 21st. That's doable. No, but that's doable.
- [37:20]
B
Yeah. I appreciate about the Jonas Brothers that they have like all this lore and like these fans who really love, like from when they were teenagers. And I think a lot of people feel too proud and they want people to, like, listen to their new music. And people do listen to their music and their new music is very good. But they're never afraid to just like, do Jonas Khan, you know, to like, lean into the lore. And I appreciate that. I think it also pays their bills. So, like, it's a smart thing to do because they have like a big fan base. But so many people like, like, just like, this is the new me. It's like, we don't care.
- [37:48]
A
No, this is like a couple million dollar weekend for them, which is great.
- [37:50]
B
Great because they do have to split everything three ways, which is exhausting.
- [37:54]
A
And I think they like nice things and I think their wives like nice things.
- [37:57]
B
Did you see that? The girl from off campus, she's was like a supplemental character in the first season and now she's the star for the next season. Like, we're following her story, so everyone's obsessed with her. She's also like, dating one of the guys from the show. So, like, she's really like. Like, she went on their podcast. Like, their podcast really confuses me.
- [38:17]
A
They have guests.
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B
Yeah. And they have, like, guests who like, are on press tours. They're just like a Jimmy Fallon.
- [38:22]
A
Okay. Like a smart list.
- [38:23]
B
She maybe is just like a big Jonas Brothers fan. Like that girl from White Lotus, like Haley Joel Richardson.
- [38:30]
A
I don't know her. I didn't watch that.
- [38:31]
B
But she was like the biggest Jonas Brothers fan. So, like, after she became famous, she just like used her fame to like go to Jonas Brothers concerts.
- [38:37]
A
That's really funny.
- [38:38]
B
Yeah, it is.
- [38:41]
A
Yeah. Maybe like a smart list.
- [38:43]
B
Yeah, I guess, like the three of them just maybe, like, I've said enough to one another, you know, it's time to start bringing in guests.
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A
Yeah. That was quick.
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B
That was quick.
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A
Are you ready for Our fourth story. Ariana Grande's been seen on a streak of outings with her ex boyfriend Ricky.
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B
Whole Foods. What is she buying at a Whole Foods?
- [39:03]
A
Probably some Whole Foods. Some. Yeah, probably some fruits and veggies.
- [39:07]
B
I was gonna stop. Yes, sorry. We're not commenting on women's Audi's.
- [39:10]
A
But like she looks like she looks terrible. She looks really sick. Like she. It's really sad.
- [39:16]
B
No. And I keep seeing clips from the tour like, how is she not collapsing? Do you know what energy it takes to do stuff like that? Like dance, saying alpha, change makeup. Like, oh, it's an all day thing. You're up at 6, you're rehearsing. Like she must be so tired. Yeah, she is just going to fall one day.
- [39:30]
A
No, now. And I don't think she's like back with Ricky.
- [39:33]
B
Oh really?
- [39:34]
A
But so Ricky's the one that they lick donuts.
- [39:36]
B
Of course. Of course they're the ones.
- [39:38]
A
She shouldn't be seen with him again because of that. Because that was so bad for her image.
- [39:42]
B
He was also in the lyrics. Some songs about Ricky.
- [39:45]
A
Now I listen and laugh.
- [39:47]
B
Which is deadass. One of the meanest things like you could say about someone. She did end up changing that lyric, right? Wrote some songs about Ricky. What did she change it to?
- [39:56]
A
I have no idea. Oh no, she changed her dad.
- [39:59]
B
Never mind, he's trash. Remember that was at first. And then she said now I listen and laugh. She said, never mind, he's trash. And then she changed it to now I listen and laugh.
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A
Interesting.
- [40:09]
B
So like I don't know how Ricky could take her back because that's mean. Like.
- [40:12]
A
Yeah, I feel like you could all. It could be interpreted like now I listen and laugh to those songs about Ricky because like we're friends and it's like funny that.
- [40:18]
B
Yeah. But her initial song and then when the song was the most biggest song in the world. Remember it broke every record. Never mind, he's trash was the lyric. That's upsetting. Are you sure?
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A
Positive or did she like just change it once? I don't think it was the original lyric.
- [40:31]
B
I think it was.
- [40:32]
A
I'm looking up the lyrics but there's no way to know.
- [40:35]
B
Chat will know.
- [40:35]
A
I don't think chat will know.
- [40:37]
B
Oh really? I don't think chat like that's supposed to know. What was the original lyric about Ricky in Ariana Grande's song?
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A
Thank you. Next.
- [40:45]
B
Thank you. Next. I wasn't sure if it was a.
- [40:50]
A
But honestly, like Ricky in these photos, who is.
- [40:53]
B
He's a dancer.
- [40:54]
A
I Don't know. He looks very chivalrous in these photos. I thought he was like a bodyguard because he's, like, carrying the bags. He's got the sunglasses around the back of his head. He means business, you know, Sometimes you just need an extra set of hands.
- [41:07]
B
I mean, he's carrying the groceries, which is nice. Like, that's always what you're looking for in a man.
- [41:10]
A
He means business. He's there to help.
- [41:13]
B
Okay, in the original version of our Anagrande's thank you next, the lyric about Ricky was. Wrote some songs by Ricky. Now I listen and laugh. I just feel like that's not true.
- [41:19]
A
I think she said she definitely called someone trash, but, like, maybe it was during a live performance.
- [41:25]
B
Wrote some songs about Ricky. Never mind. He's trash. I just want to get down to the bottom of this. I'm sorry. Okay. Oh, yes. It's a viral tick tock sound. She's in an interview. She said, I could have said, write some songs about Ricky. Never mind. He's trash. But I didn't. I said, thank you.
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A
Okay.
- [41:46]
B
I knew it was in my head for some reason.
- [41:48]
A
That's.
- [41:48]
B
That's also a mean thing to say in an interview.
- [41:50]
A
Yeah, but we need more context. Like, why did she say that? Yeah, where was the interview?
- [41:56]
B
Glamour magazine.
- [41:57]
A
Oh, interesting. But anyways, he's obviously not offended. He's helping her out. It's not, like, giving romantic. It's giving. Like, I'm helping, you know, my girl because she doesn't have her boyfriend right now. And, like, who's gonna carry the groceries?
- [42:09]
B
You think he's hired help?
- [42:10]
A
Like, I think he's hired, like, friend. I think he's really being a friend. I'm not getting romantic, but I don't know why.
- [42:15]
B
Why else would they be together?
- [42:17]
A
I don't know if she always has a boyfriend.
- [42:19]
B
She cannot be alone.
- [42:20]
A
No, she can't.
- [42:21]
B
She's hella toxic. I'm sorry. Like, yeah, we. She's like the Lily J. Like, we as a society moved on from that too quickly because, like, wicked really helped, actually. The narrative just, like, became so big and different.
- [42:34]
A
But now it's almost like now that she's back on tours, it feels like the last three years didn't even happen of, like, wicked and everything.
- [42:40]
B
Which didn't she, like, forsake her pop stardom?
- [42:42]
A
Yeah, and she said, like, she was gonna, like, do theater and acting and. But I also said, like, I think that's how she felt when she was with Ethan. Like, when you sort of, like, take on your man's hobbies personality and now.
- [42:52]
B
So it's just gonna be SpongeBob on Broadway.
- [42:55]
A
SpongeBobina.
- [42:56]
B
Oh, my God.
- [42:57]
A
Like Sponge Roberta.
- [42:58]
B
That was so crazy. That was spongiana grande.
- [43:02]
A
Yeah. So I don't know, knowing her, I don't know, knowing her, it's romantic, but, like, it just isn't looking romantic.
- [43:09]
B
I think people cared less about Ricky and more about the fact that she was at a grocery store.
- [43:13]
A
Yeah, it's like there's instacart and.
- [43:16]
B
No, not only that. Like you don't eat.
- [43:18]
A
Oh. Oh, no.
- [43:19]
B
But people thought it was performative. Like I think a thing when you have an eating interesting. I'm not like well versed on eating disorder culture because sometimes I get like, you know, inserts that content. It's like very upsetting. But there's like a thing when you are anorexic. Like, they say that being an anorexic person and going on tour and having like to show off your body and like, people comment on how skinny you are, like, is like the most gratifying thing you can do when you're anorexic. So she's like living a dream. And like, her going to this is what people in the ed community say. Her going to a grocery store, like pretending to eat while wearing. Oh, I'm all covered up in a hoodie. But her collarbone is showing. Like it's like a flex.
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A
It's also like 100 degrees.
- [43:53]
B
Yeah, like, you, girl, you don't need a hoodie.
- [43:55]
A
No, it's upsetting. The pictures are upsetting.
- [43:57]
B
I actually can't look at her. I. I feel like sick.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I don't know.
- [44:02]
A
No. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
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B
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A
Thank you. Turt, Maine Also, it seems as though the verdict is out in Prince Harry's case and it was dismissed. He lost in full. Yeah. Yeah. The fifty million dollar pound phone hacking case brought by Prince Harry and a couple other high profile figures against the publishers of the Daily Mail was dismissed in full today. The judge accepted that every article complained about was lawfully sourced.
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B
Oh.
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A
In an executive summary of his judgment, he said Associated Newspapers, which owns the Daily Mail, called journalist witnesses who gave lawful explanations for the sources of the disputed articles and incidents.
- [50:07]
B
Oh, I guess Harry had thought that his like the information that they had could only be sourced if they had hacked his own. But they proved that they didn't.
- [50:16]
A
I guess so. Also, he was suing them.
- [50:18]
B
Big L on this trip he was
- [50:20]
A
suing them with six fellow claimants including Elton John and Elizabeth Hurley.
- [50:24]
B
Oh my God.
- [50:25]
A
Yeah. I don't know what the article. I guess if I looked into it it'd be more interesting.
- [50:28]
B
Breaking news.
- [50:29]
A
This is crazy because I feel like this case has been like following him for, for the Last few years. And he's always case and it's the case in the case.
- [50:35]
B
All of that just to lose.
- [50:37]
A
Yeah.
- [50:38]
B
Expensive. They really can't afford it.
- [50:41]
A
Yeah.
- [50:41]
B
They can afford to be taking on frivolous lawsuits.
- [50:43]
A
Yeah. Our fifth and final story was some exciting food news. Girl Scout cookies are coming to Krispy Kreme. In a dream collaboration about Krispy Kreme.
- [50:52]
B
They're always qualifying for the Girl story.
- [50:54]
A
Scouts and Krispy Kreme donuts. Look at those pargy Thin mint donuts.
- [50:58]
B
A fun fact about me. Just like, I think given the fact that I love stacking, I don't really mess with Girl Scout.
- [51:04]
A
That's disgusting.
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B
I know. I don't know why I didn't grow up eating them. I've tasted like a couple. They don't really do it for me. They're not, like, savory. They feel kind of healthy. Like, they're so good. I don't really like this. This genuinely does nothing for me.
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A
I like the Thin Mint, of course, because I like, you know, like a. A mint chocolate.
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B
Yeah.
- [51:23]
A
Which you don't.
- [51:23]
B
I know you love a York Patty.
- [51:25]
A
I do. I got those little mint chocolate balls at HomeGoods yesterday. And the Samoas are so good.
- [51:30]
B
I love a coconut. Coconut. Like, seriously, just fun fact about me, I'm like a cookie connoisseur. I love snacks. I literally never turned out a cookie. I've never actually, like, sought one out of. If I. And I've eaten maybe a couple in my life, it's always because I feel like I was actually recently at the Taylor's and they had them in their pantry. Like, I've never sought one out.
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A
Yeah. And I. I don't know. Aside from people, like, coming to your door and selling them. Right.
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B
Which have they.
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A
No.
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B
Yeah. No, they.
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A
This. Well, beginning on Tuesday. Today, the donut chain is introducing these limited edition collection inspired by three iconic Girl Scout flavors. So we have the Thin Mints, we have the caramel delights or Samoas, and we have Lemon ups, which I'll skip.
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B
I really respect that. Like, the marketing and the partnerships department at Krispy Kreme, like, takes no days off. They're always doing stuff, always making waves in the food news industry. Always qualifying themselves for the fifth and final story on a slow summer day.
- [52:20]
A
Yeah.
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B
And I really respect that they don't
- [52:22]
A
just rest on their laurels. Like, of course they have a personal perfect product, but it's like we're always
- [52:26]
B
talking about people, like, who aren't doing good at their jobs. Like the agency that was hired for HBO Max to turn into Max to turn back into HBO Max. We don't talk enough about the brands and brand partnerships team over at Krispy Kreme because, like, they're crushing it.
- [52:36]
A
Yeah.
- [52:36]
B
Race. Let's talk about Love Island. Last night's episode was, like, definitely the worst of the season in the sense that, like, really nothing happened.
- [52:43]
A
Yeah. Not in the sense of, like, people were, you know, enraging, which they were.
- [52:47]
B
But it was bad in the sense that it was boring. The restaurant was so.
- [52:51]
A
It was not even. I wouldn't even want an email. Like, it's an episode that shouldn't have been an episode.
- [52:55]
B
Yeah. And I guess the only real, like, God forbid.
- [52:57]
A
Okay. So they had this day that they need to fill where they're not having a recoupling.
- [53:00]
B
Right. There's not a real challenge.
- [53:02]
A
Why not send two people on a date?
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B
Literally anything else. The hideaway could open, like, anything. I guess, like, the big story of the episode is that Kenzie and Dylan are now on the rocks. And I will say, like, I've been critical of Kenzie because she didn't move perfectly in. In the house. And at some point, like, she just started, like, acting slutty for no reason. But the way, like, we're having this referendum on Kenzie, everyone in the house is talking about it while, like, literally she's doing exactly what Sincere did in a more earnest way. She never lied, except she kissed Corbin in secret one time that everybody can't let go of. She's just. I don't know. She came at it from a place of, like, genuine exploration, whereas we're letting Sincere sit here like, they're fully back together. You have to make my fiance. Oh, my God.
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A
When he said, you're going to be the mother of my children.
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B
I'm sorry. I now officially dislike. Dislike Melanie. I have given her up until this point, like, a lot of leeway in her poor decision making because I do believe she's, like, a victim of Sincere's craziness. But at some point, the show was so frustrating because never, not once, has anyone here. And that's why I actually respect Casey because, like, while he didn't move perfectly, he always stands up for himself. Like, no one is standing up for themselves. Kenzie's, like, getting, like. Like, really, her character being called into question so deeply and so frequently by everyone, by her partner, by the girls, by the guys, and it's like, stand up for yourself. Like, just defend yourself. Nobody stands up for themselves. It's like, irritating. So I'm over here, like, defending you, and, like, you're not even defending yourself.
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A
No. And it's like, I disagree with what Kenzie has done, but I more so disagree with what Sincere has done. If we're not criticizing Sincere and the Villa is not criticizing him and his partner is not criticizing him, then we can't criticize Kenzie because she's done what he's done on a much smaller scale. So if. If Sincere is absolved, then everybody is absolved. Even, like, with Dylan has the right,
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B
though, to feel the way that he, like, he's in a partnership with a girl who he just found out, like, has this kind of weird pattern, and he might just be another cog.
- [54:46]
A
I don't have an issue with Dylan raising his concerns, but at some point,
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B
like, he does have to get over it.
- [54:50]
A
Get over it.
- [54:51]
B
Or don't.
- [54:52]
A
And don't trust her and move on.
- [54:53]
B
But, like, starting to feel bad for her. Like, she's just. She's obviously in hell. She wants to go home. You could tell she's really not having fun. And, like, no.
- [54:59]
A
And she is getting on constantly. And it's like, I think we need to. We need to on her. Yes. And. And that's it. Like, not constantly. Not every single day. Making her feel like the worst person. She's always in the bottom.
- [55:11]
B
Talk about it, and then let's move on.
- [55:12]
A
Especially if we' not having that same energy for everyone.
- [55:14]
B
It's insane, the level of criticism. And we're looking so deeply into everything Kenzie has done. Is this a pattern when there's an actual, like, register?
- [55:21]
A
So here's what's crazy, that Kate is flipping out that they're in the bottom, and she's like, how are Casey and Titi not in the bottom? Like, how are they higher than us? And it's like, you're so mad at Casey. Why are you not mad at Sincere? Why are you not saying, how are Sincere Melody?
- [55:33]
B
She did say it, but she didn't harp on it.
- [55:35]
A
She's raging about Casey. Yeah.
- [55:37]
B
It's interesting how, like, the audience. Audience back is making everyone go crazy. And I guess it is, like, very disconcerting that, like, you're having this whole experience and, like, you know, in the back your mind, everyone's watching. It's going to have their opinions, and
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A
does the whole country hate me now
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B
you get faced with that possibility. I think Kenzie's really taking it to heart for Ken.
- [55:53]
A
For Keita, it's two options. Either, like, America hates her and, like, oh, you're going home to being, like, the most hated person in America. Or we're seeing something about Zach that she doesn't see. And so it's destabilizing to think that there's even more that she doesn't know. But what's so crazy is, like, Bryce, when he spoke to Zach, really touched on exactly what our issue is with Zach.
- [56:12]
B
Titi told Kada, by the way, I think people don't like you because, like, Zach went to the hideaway with you and then said he wanted to keep exploring. Like, and she was like, oh, really? I don't think that's it.
- [56:19]
A
Yeah, no. And then Kate had totally brushed it aside. But, like, when Zach was like, should I close off with K?
- [56:23]
B
But, like, not be a girlfriend, but, like, be exclusive?
- [56:25]
A
But then Bryce was like, what do you mean close off? The experience is over. That's. That's a moot point.
- [56:29]
B
Yeah.
- [56:29]
A
And he's a performative, like, gesture, and he's like, so do something, like, more serious. Would you ever make her your girlfriend? He's like, well, that's a big step. What do you mean this girl's your girlfriend?
- [56:37]
B
What is exclusively dating? It's not being boyfriend or girlfriend.
- [56:41]
A
That conversation. Why? We see he's trying to, like, repair how we think of him and, like, insist that he has strong feelings for Kada. That conversation sets him back. It did. Once again, because it's the same thing. And then he finally has a conversation with Kaden. It's like, I want to be exclusively dating. And it's like, again, no. Too little, too late.
- [56:55]
B
And now she's so excited.
- [56:57]
A
We hate you even more.
- [56:58]
B
She's so excited. Like, sorry, this is what I mean. No one, like, demands more from their partners. All the girls. I'm sorry, Trade. Nobody demands anything. And it's like, they're all such big talkers, like, I can't even deal with them. Even Cato was like, I'm gonna make Zach. It's like, girl, you're not. Like, I would have talked so big
- [57:12]
A
back for Zach if he said, I'm not closing off or getting official in the villa because I want to do it in real life. And, like, I don't want to do it in the villa. It's not as serious. He. He could have had a reason for never doing it in the villa.
- [57:24]
B
Big gesture just to curry favor with America.
- [57:26]
A
Right.
- [57:26]
B
But he didn't want to actually do it.
- [57:27]
A
But, like, how stupid are you? You that you're gonna do it right after the vote? We're gonna.
- [57:31]
B
How stupid do you think we are?
- [57:32]
A
We see right through you a thousand percent. That's so embarrassing to do it right after because you were voted in the bottom.
- [57:37]
B
But, like, Kada was literally gonna cry. She was so happy. Like, I'm just really done, like, wanting more for these girls than they want for themselves. Like, they want to be there. They want to be treated like doormats. They all talk so big like, the villa's gonna shake. K said something last night. Like, when I talk to Zach, I'm. It's like, girl, you literally, like, they all just fold. Fold. Like, what is that phrase?
- [57:57]
A
Like, a cheap suit.
- [57:58]
B
I love that they fold like cheap suits. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna demand more of you. Like, sorry, These girls. Girls, Like, I'm sorry. None of these are my queens right there. These are not good role models for women.
- [58:05]
A
Also, Anaya still likes Casey. The fact.
- [58:08]
B
Oh, yeah. During the challenge, she chose Casey.
- [58:11]
A
That she went to Casey to have him look for her sunglasses. Like, it's actually very, very sad.
- [58:14]
B
So the scavenger hunt was stupid, but there were a couple of things that we should and could look into, and that was one of them.
- [58:18]
A
Yeah. And when we're talking about couples who aren't compatible, not only are kind of. I. Carlin, and I are not compatible because they're not compatible. And she didn't choose him when she
- [58:26]
B
had the chance to choose him.
- [58:27]
A
And, like, he's obviously, like, mad at her, and who wouldn't be butthurt about not being chosen? And he never even, like, made her
- [58:33]
B
work for forgiveness or anything, even talk about it.
- [58:35]
A
He's just, like, moving on because he just, like, wants to be on the show.
- [58:38]
B
It's a red flag, actually, how chill he is.
- [58:40]
A
Yeah. But they're not compatible because she still likes Casey, and that's what people should be saying.
- [58:45]
B
I love that Titi and Casey, like, were so surprised that they were. Were not in the bottom. And at the end of the day, they're like, that's great. But, like, we don't care. Like, I think that they are, like, they're my winners. Sorry. Of course, though, Bryce and Trinity are great, and I really have no problem with them.
- [58:57]
A
And I'm glad that, like, even though I disagree with my fellow voters and the Love island viewers, like, I think they will win. We all agree that Brinity is the winner. They're so, like, thankfully, like, because I can't deal with another undeserving winner.
- [59:10]
B
No. Like, I could see people thinking that Anaya and Carl should win and they. Absolutely nobody else deserves to win. But honestly, like, if Casey and Titan. Look, everyone's gonna think this is the craziest thing. They aren't gonna be Bryson, Trinity, because Bryce and Trinity are just a better couple and they've had a better track record. But I'm sorry, they are. They're the Clark and Taylor who are still together, mind you, from last season. They are the Clark and Taylor of the season. I'm glad that people have sort of let up on them.
- [59:35]
A
Yeah.
- [59:36]
B
I feel like let up on Clark.
- [59:37]
A
I know. I feel like America has learned a little bit from that situation because when it was Clark and Taylor, they would have been voted in the bottom and this time they weren't.
- [59:44]
B
Every now and then, someone leaves their partner from someone from Casa and there's really no good way to do it. And even if there was, the girls in the villa would find a way to, like, defend their friend and hate the guy. So it's like just. You might as well choose what makes you happy. And that is what Casey did. And again, he wasn't perfect and yada yada. But I'm sorry. Him and Titi are so cute.
- [60:01]
A
Yeah. I've moved on from a couple of disrespectful comments.
- [60:04]
B
And so has Anaya, by the way. So, like.
- [60:05]
A
Well, yeah, because she likes.
- [60:06]
B
She loves him. Such a boring episode.
- [60:11]
A
A complete waste of time in brain cells.
- [60:13]
B
Yeah. It was, like, frustrating to feel like my life was being wasted on this episode. That's how I felt.
- [60:17]
A
Yeah. And they didn't even give us a preview for tonight yet, did they? They just said, like, there's going to be a vote coming. Boat is brewing.
- [60:22]
B
Yeah.
- [60:23]
A
Meanwhile, Ian Sterling, like, stays cracking me up. We don't even talk about how, like, he gets the episodes, like, probably the day before. They have music already set to them and he just has to, like, add over his voiceover and he's like, writing those jokes on the fly.
- [60:35]
B
He is insanely talented.
- [60:36]
A
He is.
- [60:37]
B
I think, like, that is so corny usually. And when I watching Love Island, I was getting, like, getting ready to skip the way. It's so funny. It's very quick. It's very sharp. It's very clever. It's like mean without. It's funny without being mean. And it, like, he has, like, a general understanding of, like, what the audience.
- [60:53]
A
Yes.
- [60:53]
B
Feelings.
- [60:54]
A
Giving, like, a voice a little bit to the people.
- [60:57]
B
I love him. He's insanely talented.
- [60:59]
A
Yeah.
- [60:59]
B
That's my king right there.
- [61:00]
A
That's the only nice thing I have to say about the show.
- [61:03]
B
Yeah. All right. Well, well, that's your Love island recap. That's your episode tomorrow. We're back. Reminder, Dear Toasters, as we move to Thursday. So if you ever want advice from us, our advice segment is now on Thursdays. Email us dear toasters gmail.com or head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com hope you guys have an amazing day. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast and Monday morning show. We Deliver the fastest 5 stories you need to store every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe and give us a video, a thumbs up or also the most podcast never podcast we found. So it's about five tunes. We are. Hope you guys have an amazing Tuesday and we'll see you tomorrow.
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A
Love you. Bye.