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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Thursday. That kind of feels like a Friday because we already recorded this episode 20 minute in and we realized that one of us wasn't recording. So having said that, welcome back to the Toast. Happy Thursday. I will say, like, it wasn't the most amazing 20 minutes. It was. It was really good. But it was fine.
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It was solid and we could do it again. Here's what you missed. Claudia and I are very simpatico today. We are wearing the same outfit. Pink sweaters, cream pants, and the same colored shoes. Minor from mj. We took a walk down memory lane with some of our first sponsors here
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at the Toast Shout out to MJ Thursday booth. You Cora for being some of the first brands to sponsor us and shout out to stamps.com for being one of those OG brands who's still with us today.
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Right. We. We noted that Bruno is here.
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We did. I rattled off like all the TV I watched here. I'll just give a quick recap. I watched your friends in Neighbor season two and I came to the conclusion that it should have been a limited series. It's still a fine show, but whatever. I watched my king Jamie on Jeopardy. Slaying it again and embarrassing everybody in his wake. Thank you.
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3.
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I will be reading Copper Spellburden. I haven't gotten there yet. And I do also want to watch since my Apple TV subscription is currently valid thanks to your friends and neighbor, the new Elle Fanning show based on the book Margo's got money troubles, which,
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if you forgot, we did read for the redheads. I do feel like Copper Spell burden is not gonna happen reading it. Yeah, like, I just.
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But I have a physical copy in my nightstand. I absolutely am.
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No, I know. I just feel like the more that we talk about it, like, the. The further away we are from you reading it.
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Jackie and I also put together that it has been. We actually had. Did a lot.
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Yeah, I did a lot. It's actually hysterical now that I'm thinking about it.
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So we realized that yesterday was the first day of the podcast in probably 10 days that we haven't had a story about Alex Earl versus Alex Cooper. And so we drew up this little whiteboard that says one day without talking about Licks versus Lex in a formal capacity, meaning making It a story because sometimes like we probably talked about it yesterday just like in the pre pass 5, but having a story about it today, we do have a story about it. So we will have to erase the whiteboard. But for now we have the whiteboard. We do.
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And we took a picture with it. We did a cheese.
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You want to show everyone thumbnail.
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So we are one day clean from licks first Lex. But I think we are going to ruin all of it today.
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I have something new to share that I wasn't able to share in the previous show. So I learned two things. You know, I do a morning scroll on Tick Tock while I'm doing my makeup and I learned two really interesting factoids that you probably don't know about that I'd like to share. Okay. The first is kind of like huge news is that Tana Mongeau is leaving only fans.
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Oh, wow.
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She says she's in her brand safe era. I think she's, you know, documented her sobriety. She's just like doing really well. And she was like, I look back on the time fondly. I'm glad that I didn't have like bad experiences like I think other people have. And it was able to like, help me financially take care of my, you know, friends. And now I'm just like, not in that era. And I don't want to be doing it anymore. So I'm not doing it.
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That's so great like that, you know, But I mean normalize, just changing and evolving like that sounds like nothing is forever.
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And then another thing I learned that you will find really interesting is like just random trivia. Fact is that the AI revolution is actually having an enormous, like, benefit for the island of Anguilla. Okay, do you want to know why it's so random?
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Because, like, that's their initials AI.
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Yes, but on. Okay, so like, you know when you shop on a website but you're in Canada, it's like Sephora CA. Theirs is like Sephora AI. And people are buying websites like chat, gbt, AI, not dot com. And when you buy a domain that ends in AI, you have to pay Anguilla $140 for the registration every two years. And there's over a million websites that are currently ending in AI, which means a million people have paid $140 every two years to the island of Anguilla. And as of last year, it was half of their entire economic gdp.
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Wow.
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Fun fact that I learned on Tik Tok.
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Maybe Reese Witherspoon should share that.
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Yeah, maybe with the women of Anguilla and their local communities.
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Yes. So this is good news for the women of Anguila.
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Yeah. Just thought that was interesting.
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That is very interesting.
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What else did we talk about? The. Pffb. It was 20 minutes. Yeah. So no, obviously we're doing, like, an abridge.
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It wasn't like any, like, need to know information. You know, it was just like Jackson Claude. Jackson clotting, which I guess we could like. Jackson Claude again.
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Let's. Jackson Claude again. We were talking about my wild side. Should we dive into that?
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We were counting a conversation that we had yesterday that is need to know information. It is.
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So, Claudia, you have such a wild side that everyone should get to know, which was my big sister Olivia's dream for me. And I think that we don't talk enough about how that dream has come true.
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It's been realized. Like, I do feel like the world has gotten to know your wild side,
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and I think they've actually gotten to know all my sides. I'm extremely dynamic.
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You are. You are. But as far as Olivia, she wanted the world to get to know your wild side, and they have. And I feel like we should close that loop for her and let her know, like, your dreams have been realized.
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Your dreams, mission accomplished.
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Your dreams have come true.
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But there's really beautiful.
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There's more to you than your wild side.
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I mean, like I said, I'm extremely dynamic. Actually, I was talking about this yesterday because I went to Times Square, which I would normally never go to, but I was asked to be on the Free Press podcast hosted by Susie Weiss called Second Thought, it comes out tomorrow, where we did, like, a lot of pop culture. It's actually very similar to the Toast where, like, we did, like, swirly, like, pre past five, 20 minutes, just, like, talking about me. And then we did pop culture. And she had just read my book, so it definitely felt like we were sort. It was like a highlight reel of my life.
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Yeah.
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And we were talking about my different sides. Like, obviously, I was cracking jokes. Like, I was actually on one. Like, everyone in the room was just. It was like Violet after. I was really crushing it. But then I was talking a lot about, like, my relationship with God. Like, I'm actually extremely dynamic.
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So do you think we're gonna see another side to you on the podcast? On that podcast, I will say you'll
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mostly see my wild side. Like, I was most. I was mostly being like, you know, Tardy Lou, but there was a dash of. Of my. Of, you know, my sensitive side. Yeah. I was talking about, you know, I actually have a very strong relationship with the Lord, and I speak to him on a daily basis, and that's just like, an unexpected fact about me.
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Yeah. And then, is there any other sides of you that you want to share here, like, instead of giving someone else the exclusive?
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Well, I do prefer my left side. Do you have a side?
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No. The thing is, I would have had a side, but, like, you took my side on the show. Like, when we first started the check, the side that you sat in, like, would have been my preferred side. So I just, like, moved on from that.
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But I had a mole at the time, and so, like, the mole kind of trumped everything.
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Yeah. So then that sort of, like, cured me of size because I'm like, I sit on my bad side every day, and that's my life. Like, so that's my side.
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Now, there are two types of people in this world. People who don't have a side that they prefer, and people who prefer their left side. There is nobody on this planet who I've ever met whose side is their right side.
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Yeah, it's very true, but for me, it feels less about, like, whatever each side of my face looks like and just, like, more about, like, angles and how I want to, like, be in the world. Like, I remember, like, even in a classroom. Say you're going into a classroom. What? And all the chairs are empty. What seat are you taking?
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How many rows are there?
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Four.
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Four? By what? Six.
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Four by six.
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I'm taking row two. Seat two.
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Oh, so you're, like, almost center. You're just, like, five seconds, five feet from start up. Yeah, I'm taking first row all the way in the corner in class.
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Oh, I'm not. Yeah. Oh, in the corner. That's unique.
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I like this question.
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We should make one of those GIFs. Like, which seat are you taking? You know, it's a classroom.
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I feel like it says a lot about you, because I feel like that makes sense with me. It's like, I want to be in the first row. Like, I want to learn, I want to participate, but I don't want to be in the center of the attention. Like, I want to be, like, actually not to see me.
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We're also, like, currently and when we were in school, like, very short, which I do think limits the types of seats you can get.
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So, like, we should be first row. We're the Elk of first rowers. And that should go for concerts, too.
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Yes.
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By height.
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Whenever I've gone to a concert with Brian Kelly, he's like, very cautious and of what seats he buys because he knows how tall he is and he doesn't want to be in people's way. It's actually really nice. Even though it's like, you're born this way, it's like, not your problem.
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Yeah, he won't do ga.
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He will not do ga. And if he does, he stands in the back. I'm like, let's go to the front. He's like, no. Yeah, it's really nice.
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It's nice for him. But now for his shorty friend.
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Oh, my God. I wonder what it's like to watch a concert from Brian's pov. Like, it's probably so good.
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Every seat is front row.
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So true.
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Yeah,
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we have a lot of stories because yesterday was sort of a big day. We hyped up this like, Hulu, like, upfront event because every year it really does deliver. And I feel like last night's or yesterday's was so big. There was so much news coming out of about all of our favorite shows, new shows, shows we didn't know were coming shows, sequels.
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Love Thy Nader is finally coming back.
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Like, is it? I feel like of all the announcements, like, that was the worst one.
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I agree. No, it was the most disappointing one. They might as well have called it a new show and it's a season one again because it's literally going to be like a three year jump from what we just saw. And the second half of season one that we were all excited for, like
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Jewels, Tom Brady, Jeff Bezos, Jules and
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Mary Holland, like, that's all in the garbage can. Like, we're not. I don't want to see that at this point. It's three years ago. But, like, why can't they just, like, give it to us now?
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I don't know. But like the Hulu conglomerate that includes Disney, abc, espn, they're kind of firing on all cylinders. In the reality front, I feel like they're sort of becoming like a bigger hub than Bravo. Like they have all these shows that are all connected. Vanderpump Villa, Secret Lives. It's actually they very slowly, like, turned into a monster in the game.
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They did. And I'm actually going to give them a lot of credit and say that, like, maybe they didn't give us season two of Love Thy Nator because it wasn't good.
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Well, obviously.
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No. Oh, I thought, like, I just imagine
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that anything they would do is bad.
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No, I just thought it was like bogged down by like admin and scheduling and like, people not realizing already filmed. No, I know, but like, what if it was going to be, like, bad and maybe wouldn't have gotten them a season three. And so instead they paused, they brought in a new showrunner, and now we're gonna get the season two that we deserve. Like, that's how much faith I have in, like, the hulu production, reality TV production department.
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Well, what's crazy about the reality TV production department Hulu is that they have so many good big shows. I literally forget that the Kardashians are there.
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Like, what's so crazy?
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One of the smaller shows.
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What's so crazy about yesterday is that all the stars were out for the Hulu Get Real House. Get Rayal House. And I didn't even really. I know that some Kardashians were there, but, like, I haven't even seen them in the roundups.
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Chloe. Only Chloe was there again. She's the only one in this family who works. Travis Barker was there. So I don't know if maybe Courtney was like, backstage.
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He has a documentary coming out.
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We'll talk. I'm sure that's the first story. The big news with Dancing with the Stars. Lots of abc.
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So meaty.
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So meaty chat still. So that's what you missed on. Pffb.
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Yeah. As we said, nothing need to know. But, you know, I think people just like the Jackson Claude of it all.
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I will say, like, we were due because just a part of being a podcaster is not recording.
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Is losing episodes and content. Yes. Or like files being corrupted. They're gone.
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It just happens. So we were due. Thank God it wasn't a whole ass episode. It was 20 minutes. We hadn't. I was in the middle of the first AD break. Okay. TG for that. And now hopefully it won't happen for a while because we just had one.
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Yeah, we just had our hiccups.
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It's just a rite of passage on Farch.
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It is. It happens less and less as, like, you know, becomes more routine. It happened a lot in the beginning on that Zoomcaster.
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I wonder if it ever happens to Joe Rogan. Like, they forget to press record.
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Oh, for sure. Not now. But like, it's definitely happened in all of his years.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And it's like, it's so frustrating because it's like the worst thing. But the person listening, like, they don't care.
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I know. And like, we keep talking about it. Don't you find?
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I do find. We also had a whole conversation about how to keep saying, don't you find? It's like her new phrase.
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I did want to acknowledge. Like, I. It's happened very naturally, this new thing that I've been saying. And I think it's, like, really elevated and British sounding when I'm asking Jackie for validation, which I'm now realizing I do all the time. Instead of saying, like, don't you agree or right, I say, don't you find?
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Right. Don't you? And oftentimes I don't.
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You don't. And that's like your new phrase, I don't.
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But sometimes I do find.
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Never, like, literally, you never find. You're, like, blind. You can't see.
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I will find today. I'm going to go out of my way today.
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Oh, you're going to dig deep within your heart and find the courage to find.
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Find the courage to find and find the courage to agree with your calls. Because I don't want to hurt you.
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I'm glad I pointed it out because, like, it does hurt.
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Yeah, I agree. It hurts.
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Yeah, you do. You find?
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I find. I was gonna argue your point, but
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I won't because it's literally in your DNA.
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No, I was gonna say I don't disagree with your calls. I just feel like we just refine your calls.
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Yeah.
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You actually sent me the funniest video yesterday. Which the cat stickler one about, like,
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that friend who's just, like, intent on disagreeing with you.
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Will you play it? It's so funny. It's literally me.
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Okay, now I have to go find this video.
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It's in our DMs. You sent it to me.
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We DM so frequently. Oh. You know who I was DMing with last night? Jesse Solomon. He must have, like, heard our episode and.
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You mean the one titled after him? I. I guess he saw it.
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What's so funny is that I had made a video about Summer House like, a week or two ago when he followed me, and then yesterday he followed me again. He obviously unvolid me.
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Maybe he wants to get your attention.
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Well, he got it. I was DMing him and then I was like, you know, Jesse, I sense a real sense of sadness coming from you on what Chavez live said that. Yeah. Is that rude? A little.
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But no, no.
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Let me tell you what he said.
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What did he say?
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Just sad that it feels like the friend group is falling apart.
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Well, I don't really have sympathy for that as much as, like, the other stuff.
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And then he said his friends who are toasters, tell him that I'm a great singer and that we should do a Collab.
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Would you?
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Guess I'll start being me.
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You should do, like, a remix on that. Like, you should do a verse.
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Absolutely. Guess I'm gonna star.
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You know, where it's like, you come in with, like, a little. A little ballad.
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And then he invited me to his show, his concert, which I'm obviously gonna go to.
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Oh, so you have a best friend. Did Ben ever reach out?
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Oh, and then I said, he's like, I'm headed off on tour, but, like, come to the show in July. And I'm like, great. And in the meantime, like, I do think you should get dinner with my husband. Like, I can't explain why, but, like, you just sort of need to.
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Yeah.
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And he was like, yeah, absolutely.
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Okay, great.
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So back to this Cat Stickler video. Sugary. Just been feeling kind of off. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Like, a little bit of anxiety.
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Or I wouldn't call it anxiety. It's more like worry and uncertainty combined with, like, you know, it sounds like. Yeah, a little bit of anxiety. Oh, it's just not. It's not that I'm gonna do Cabo this summer.
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Oh.
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Like somewhere tropical, Like a beachy. Like, that's literally you. It is me.
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I can own. That I could own.
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Yeah. Okay, good, good. That's. The first step, is admitting you have a problem.
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Even though, like, beachy is not tropical entirely.
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Not entirely. But, like, if you're. If you're feeling like you need to correct. Like, you're the fucking problem.
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I just. I operate in entire teaspoon, you know, entire teeth in entire.
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Men's entire. Tease.
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Yeah. So I feel seen by Cat Stickler.
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That's really beautiful. I heard her and John Mayer broke up.
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They did.
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That's just what I heard.
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Well, I guess we stopped seeing them together.
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Yeah.
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Maybe. He was one of those people. He would so be one of those people that's, like, disagrees for disagreement's sake. Like, loves.
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Sounds like you two are a match made in heaven. No.
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Well, I guess you, like, you don't think.
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You don't think that you guys are actually. You don't find. Oh, no.
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I guess we are matching in heaven. Yeah.
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Right. Right.
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So I should go out and pursue him.
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Yeah.
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Okay, I'll do that. Let's get into the stories now, shall we?
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I went to Myrtle Beach. I had an amazing time. It was a very formative experience. And so I would say, if you're looking for like an amazing formative experience,
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Oh, we went to the beaches, we went to the town. We, you know, hit up a couple of bars, clubs, like the local scene. It was just so awesome. There was something for everyone because, you know, some people, they like to stay home and like be by the beach and very personal. You know, we had like some pool parties. But other people, like, they want to get out, see the local culture, maybe like souvenir shop. And there was just really something for everyone. And I was with a lot of girls, like a very big house because I'm a very social girl, I have a lot of friends and we all were able to find something that we love to do. So I would totally recommend Myrtle beach for anyone. And I imagine now as someone with a family, like, it would be an amazing destination for a family vacation.
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Thank you,/ turdcast.
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You're welcome. Now is like every now.
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Now we're caught up.
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Yeah. Right.
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Also, you know what I realized? We take notes on the show as we're doing the show. You know that, like, we have people transcribing it. So we could have just read through our notes.
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We could have, but then that wouldn't be authentic.
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Don't you find it wouldn't have been authentic?
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And because of my wild.
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And so authentic.
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Because of my wild side, authenticity is key.
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It would have been so authentic. Like, a little too authentic.
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I just want to say I'm tired of being authentic.
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I know, I know. But I think ultimately it's the right move.
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2027 is like the year I start lying.
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Yeah. This year is the year of authenticity truth. But maybe next year we can set different.
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Could be like the year of lies. Yeah.
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I wonder how that would go for us.
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I don't think it would go well for everyone else.
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It does. And then it doesn't. Like, I don't. I think ultimately it would be the wrong move.
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Okay.
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To start lying, but what do I know? Our first story, major reality TV news as Hulu's Get Real House. Their Get Real event was yesterday, which is pretty much their upfronts where they tell all of the new shows that they have premiering and coming out. So here is what we're getting in no particular order.
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Okay. I'm like, I'm overwhelmed.
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First, we have a Secret Lives of Mormon Wives spin off the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Orange County. And they've revealed their cast list with so many familiar names. I'm very, very surprised.
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I am, too. Especially because, of course, everybody's now doing, like, a deep dive on all these people. Almost none of them, besides Macy's sister are Mormons. Some of them were never. Some of them were never Mormon. Like, I don't even know how. They're like, I don't know why they
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would call it Secret Lives of Mormon Wise. Like, why not Secret Lives of Beachy Wives or something of oc Right here is who's on it. So I think the show is like, really the, you know, the Sheena Shea to Brandi Glanville pipeline is.
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Yeah.
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Macy to her sister McCall, which is great.
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Great. That's a good connection.
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We thought it was going to be Jen Affleck. That's what, like, the rumors had been.
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Oh, yeah. What happened to her? She wasn't even there. Like, amazing. Miranda, Layla, Macy and Jesse were tapped for the event to, like, show up and do press and then announce.
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They did like, a little announcement on stage, like a little sketch, and then they announced a new show. And here are the cast members. You're going to recognize a lot of names. First we have Bo. Bobby Altoff.
A
Oh, right. She just went on. Good. Guys. She is that girl who interviewed. She had the podcast that showed up out of nowhere and had, like, Drake and Mark Cuban. And then there was, like, rumors that she was hooking up with Drake. And then her husband and her got divorced. Like, she's crazy.
B
Yeah. So now she's going to be on this show, which sounds like great and interesting casting. She also. Yeah. She got divorced from her husband. She has two kids. So now we're gonna see more about her personal life. Aspen Ovard.
A
Yeah, I know you don't know who that is.
B
I don't really do, but I know the name Big.
A
She had a big scandal on Tick Tock, which was like, she was like a family channel. She married someone Mormon, but I don't think she ever became Mormon. But there's a Mormon connection. And they had like, you know, family channel, whatever. And then she got divorced and everyone was like, what? It was so confusing. And now she's a part of a throuple where, like, she is the third in a married couple.
B
Wow. I've heard the name before. I've seen her around the Internet.
A
She had like, a big moment on Tick Tock when she got divorced. People were. And she was like, making all these Tick tocks, like, alluding to what her husband did and, like, never told anyone, which was so annoying. And now I guess she's a part of the throuple now. I guess she's on crack.
B
I wanted to just confirm something because I feel like she was friends with J.C. marie, which. And now thinking about it, like, J.C. and Chelsea would be so good for this show.
A
Yeah. JC lives in O.C.
B
yeah.
A
And is she Mormon? But I even know that she used to be. Oh, right. I did know that.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
She definitely said no.
B
And Chelsea, too. They definitely said no, but they would have been really great for this. And she doesn't follow Aspen, so they were either another friends or they're beefing.
A
Yeah.
B
Then we have Avery Woods. The unwell of it all.
A
She is A tick tocker turned podcaster on the Unwell Network. She also has, like, myriads of scandals because she said to Harry Jowsey that her vagina is intact because she had a couple of C sections. And she was, like, being really flirty with him on her podcast when she's literally married. And. Yeah, she's interesting to me. I don't know.
B
Oh, and she said something about Jesus.
A
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She was making the point that, like, a lot of her haters, like, you know, who sent her, like, really mean messages, have, like, you know, Corinthians in their bio, which, like, happens a lot. But then she said something like, Jesus would like.
B
Yeah, she said something really crude and offensive.
A
Disrespectful. Yeah. And what I kind of think of when I think of her is that she was really, really, really, like, best friends with Emily Kaiser. And last year when Emily Kaiser lost her son, like, her and Avery, like, were spotted. Not spotted. Were together once and then never again.
B
Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that. It's Emily Kaiser live in Orange County.
A
She lives. No, she lives in Phoenix. Okay. Salamao, Phoenix. Like, I love Emily Kaiser. Actually just give Emily Kaiser show. But yeah, like, Emily had. Was still like, completely offline and Avery, I guess, had gone to visit her and Avery also went offline. Avery was like, I just, like, she wasn't posting and when Avery came back, she made a get ready with me and she was wearing a necklace that said Emily's son's name. And then she removed the video and they were never, like, seen together again.
B
Well, that's very odd.
A
Yeah. Very strange.
B
Very strange. Okay.
A
I love Emily Kaiser. I need Emily Kaiser to become a toaster. I just. I feel like she would love the show. I know that's like, obnoxious to say because it's my show, but I just feel like she would love it.
B
You're saying it objectively.
A
No, Like, I don't say that about everyone. I don't think Stephen Colbert would love
B
the show, you know, but he loves our sound.
A
He does. He used our tick tock sound last night. But I do think Emily Kaiser would.
B
Yeah. And I just want to say we've named like three names so far and there's so much lore here already. Like, yes, it bodes really well. Now the rest of the names, there's not as much Salome, Andrea McCall, that's Macy's sister, Chandler Higginson, Ashley Peace and Madison Fisher. So I saw photos of these girls. I don't know them, but like, just from the photos, I'm like, oh, they're the elk.
A
I will say the reception on Tick Tock has been so overwhelmingly negative.
B
What?
A
And I just. Yeah, I. Only. Because I don't think that, like, the Tick Tockers they tapped are, like, beloved right now. You know, it's highs and lows when you're an influencer. People love you, they hate you. Having said that, like, they're also. The ones that I've heard of, like, are like lightning rods. Like I just said, there's so much lore. So whether people like it or not, I do think it'll be successful.
B
I think it sounds so good. I'm sad.
A
I'm glad we're finally tapping influencers for reality tv. Like, there's a reason why millions of people follow them. They're interesting.
B
Yeah. And reality TV stars become influencers. It's just like a Of their perfect match pipeline and a perfect match. So that's very exciting to hear about. It will drop later this year.
A
Parje.
B
Then we also got Stasi show confirmed title and trailer for House of Stasi, which is the show about Stasi and Stasi's world. House of Stasi is such a sickening name now, of course.
A
Yeah.
B
It seems it's very high fashion, but also it's very Game of Thrones.
A
Yes, exactly, Khaleesi.
B
It's sick.
A
Yeah. We've known that Sassy is getting a show for, like, four years because they announced it four years ago, and they said she would also be, like, a Vanderpump Villa person, and she's done three seasons of manner from Villa. We haven't gotten a season of House of Saucy. So finally our time has come. And I actually think, all in all, Stassi's star has risen so much that the show will be so successful now. Maybe three years ago, it would have been smaller. So them having waited actually works.
B
Yeah.
A
And I just want to say, where was my friends Taylor and Taylor in the trailer? Like, there. Where was Taylor and Taylor? Yeah, I know, Satchel. Katie Maloney is in it.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Christina Kelly?
B
Yeah, Katie Maloney. Christina Kelly and Stassi's sister are, like, big cast members.
A
So are Taylor and Taylor.
B
Not according to what I saw yesterday.
A
I know, like, put that in the trailer. I know Taylor's tracker was starting stuff. I know a little bit about the show, but, like, honestly, not a lot. And I am gonna watch it, like, pretty blindly. I don't know a ton, but I know that they lived in LA for a Couple of months filming it, and I know it was wild.
B
Well, I can't wait.
A
Taylor, she just can't help herself. Like, she's a perfect reality star.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Satchel. I mean, if Katie Maloney brings Satchel to House of Sassy, I'll be more open.
A
She's bringing her other boyfriend, who's not Satchel.
B
Satchel.
A
I know. It's funny that, like, the characters that were plucked from Vanderpump Rules that come to House society, like, you couldn't have picked two people that I like less.
B
Yeah. Christina Kelly is not. I mean, she's just, like, always, like, a good friend to Sassy, so I think she's like a good supplemental character on the show. And I don't feel like that's, like, a controversial casting.
A
No. When I think of Christina Kelly, like, I definitely think of her worst moment. And for some reason, she, like, did nothing on the show really, besides that. So it's all I always think about when she's, like, not invited to Sheena's wedding. And so she's, like, sitting, scrolling, making fun of her dress. Like, it was so mean. And it was just. It was, like, genuinely the textbook definition of mean girl. And then she was not really a main character on the show, so I don't really remember anything else. She, like, nothing she ever did.
B
She was actually always around, but, like, she just never could come back from that. Yeah. And she was always around because you shouldn't be, like, your worst, meanest moment.
A
I know, I know. And so I'm sure she's grown from that. But, like, that's all I think about.
B
Yeah.
A
No, I can't move on.
B
Maybe we'll get something new from House of Stasi, like some. Some new association of her.
A
Hopefully.
B
Then Chloe was the sister to go to the event because, of course, Kardashians are on Hulu. But there's a new show coming out, the Girls, which is all about Chloe's best friend. So we have. And Kim and Kim, Natalie and Olivia from Wags, and also Kim and Chloe's friends, we have Nicole Khadijah Malik, and Khadijah Nicole Williams. ENGLISH who's also from Wags, and she's on Sports Illustrated this year. Then there was Iris Palmer, the one who turns the Kylie, and she signs with Kylie.
A
Yeah, I have a hot take.
B
What?
A
I don't think this show's gonna be good. Like, these are women who have had, like, a decade of Kardashian exposure, and they haven't really, like, taken off in a meaningful way, they're just, like, hanger honors. And so I just think, like, if, like, the Kardashians put me on their Instagram, like, I would be gone, you know? Like, I feel like I have the goods. Like, I. I just. I. I don't think, like, we know all there is to know, really, about Malika. Maybe not so much Khadijah, but, like, I don't know. I'm just not. I'm not feeling inspired by this.
B
I agree. You know what? I was just thinking about this. Like, I feel like there are so many instances where, like, a show is good. I like it. Like, I think it's a good idea. I like the people on it, and it just, like, never gets to be successful. I feel like there are a couple people who have had a couple shows at this point. Point, and they've gone nowhere. And, like, at a certain point, like, maybe it's not good, and maybe it's not a good idea because it's not happening.
A
Last year, Chloe and Scott announced a show called beyond the Gates that they were executive producing that never came out.
B
I feel like this is it.
A
Right. Reiterated.
B
Yeah. Like, and they just, like, pivoted to being the girl. So it's about, like, Chloe's friends. They don't all live beyond the gates, so that title doesn't work. But I feel like this is that.
A
Got it.
B
And it's like, the show really needs, like, Chloe and Kim for it to work.
A
Yeah.
B
And Chloe and Kim already spread thin on their own show. They already don't have enough to share about their personal lives week to week. It's like, you could feel they're, like, really scraping. So I. I actually.
A
The girls are dropping like flies, the sisters.
B
So while I do, like, initially get really excited by this news because those are my girls from wags, you know, And I loved wags.
A
Yeah, of course. I know. You're, like, og.
B
I. I guess I do have to express concern as well, and I do have to do. Find.
A
Yeah, I'm just. I'm not. I don't. I actually don't know if I'll be watching this unless it gets to a place where everyone's like, have you seen the girls?
B
Yeah, I agree. I. I can't, like, waste my time on things that, like, only I like, you know?
A
Yeah. Right.
B
Then we also. Hold on. There's so much more, like Million Dollar Nannies. Million Dollar Nannies, which is a show.
A
Which is a reality show about, like, a lot of young women who. Who moved to Ibiza because there's a market there for, like, luxury nannies. And so they're just like, these young, hot nannies who get paid a lot of money.
B
Yes. Then we also have the next pro, Dancing with the Stars, the Glee Project competition.
A
Right. Searching for their next dance pro, hosted by Robert Irwin.
B
And I feel like we had heard whispers of that, but now it's confirmed.
A
Yeah, I don't remember if they had confirmed. They had said that Robert Irwin was going to host it. Even though that's a great host, it does make it. He definitely was giving industry plant on his season.
B
He's host. Yeah. It is Robert Irwin hosting industry plant.
A
Like, of course he won. He's hosting their next big show.
B
Yeah.
A
You know.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, I feel like with Carlton, he was such a. Like, an, you know, underdog, and, like, the. It was so genuine. Like, people just loved him. And he is a professional host. So when they needed to tap someone, it didn't feel so. Like, this feels really, like, planned.
B
Oh, wow. I didn't even, like, think of it, but it's so true. Especially when you think about the legacy of this season of Dancing with the Stars. Like, it's so not about Robert Irwin.
A
It's about Whitney and Alex.
B
Yeah. Yeah, it is. Next, Parker Posey is hosting a new competition show called the Mob, which will feature the likes of Joe Gorga and Demi.
A
Wait, what?
B
A new competition show called the Mob,
A
hosted by Parker Posey of Josie and the Pussycats fame.
B
Yes. And White Lotus.
A
It's a competition show.
B
Yeah, Joe.
A
And it's people in the. To me, Lucy May.
B
To me, Lucy May is gonna be on it in the Mob with Joke.
A
Are you saying English? The Mob, by the way, of all the. I didn't see this one. I was watching all the Hulu stuff, but I got, like, excited and sidetracked with Stassi and Taylor. But, like, so I guess it's gonna
B
be like another reality TV competition. Like, you know, another Traders.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
I guess it's like Traders and it's like a mob.
A
I thought it was, like, people who are in the mob. So it's gonna be like, Caroline Manzo and the Mob was. I feel like Joe Gorga first.
B
It's gonna have, like, Mob vibes.
A
Did you say Gorga or Judice?
B
I said Gorga.
A
Oh, yeah. Because if it's Judicia, they can't film in the States.
B
Oh, yeah. I. Even though I'm saying Joe Borga. Even though I'm saying it, I'm seeing Joe. Dj.
A
Yeah. Right, right, right. But he can't he's like restricted.
B
Sorry. This show is far more interesting with Joe Trichetta.
A
What's the premise of, like, the competition? Are they like all in a house together?
B
Let me, let me look. But it's definitely feels like, like mob.
A
And then last year they had launched a bunch of shows that, like, weren't brought up this year. So it's safe to say they're not getting another season like that. Colton Underwood and Kaitlyn Bristow dating show about virgins. Remember?
B
Oh, no, I don't remember, thankfully.
A
Yeah. I don't even know if it ever came out. I'm curious if Alex Cooper's Love Overboard is going to get another season. The.
B
Oh, it's. Yeah, she was like a bit. She's a big Hulu.
A
Yeah. Maybe she was planning on being there but pulled out otherwise.
B
Oh, my God. All of these, all of these articles about describing the show. The mob are like, have under behind tables. Oh, that's. So wait, here's what I could see before the paywall. The mob follows a group of stars in an Italian villa as they compete for up to $250,000 in challenges inspired
A
by, I want to say the mob. Like, you have to take a horse head and put it in the bed or whatever.
B
Okay, that's a little crazy.
A
Oh, the theme, actually. So Joe Giudice could go because it's filled in Italy.
B
Yeah, exactly. So, okay, here's.
A
It's giving traders. But instead of all the challenges being like Ireland themed or Scotland. Excuse me. So offensive when I say that. I'm sorry, you guys. And now I guess it's like we're gonna be smashing grapes.
B
Yeah. Okay, here. Thank you. TV Insider.com contestants will live in a lavish Italian villa where they will shake down, hustle and whack their way to win cash prizes.
A
Oh, this is offensive. This is stereotyping.
B
Every episode, they will tackle mob inspired movie jobs to survive. Sure, movies. But every mob family needs a don. And whoever they choose will have absolute power, deciding who makes money, who stays, and who ultimately gets whacked.
A
Oh, it's traitors.
B
In a game where power demands absolute loyalty, can the don stay in control or will the family rise up and overthrow them?
A
I'm obsessed. It sounds so good.
B
I'm fucking cracking up.
A
I had no idea. I saw all the shows announced and I did not see the show.
B
It's. It's giving. Like back in the early 2000s when like all these dating shows and like, you know, transformation shows, like, we're spinning out and then we Got the swan and.
A
Right. Like the same premise, but like a new outfit.
B
And it's just like they went so crazy with it because, like, it was so successful. They just wanted to make more and more. This is giving, like, traders, becoming, like, we're trying to make a million traders. And, like, we're getting a little crazy with it.
A
A thousand percent.
B
Okay, back to the slate of programming
A
that has been announced.
B
We also have.
A
Hold on.
B
I just lost all my tabs.
A
Oh, that's good.
B
Yeah, Yeah, I love losing. Well, of course we said love thy Nader. Season two in the winter. Love thy Nator Winter Games. Okay, here we go then. Travis Barker, Why he was there. He's. His documentary film, Louder Than Fear is premiering on Hulu.
A
That's great. He has such an interesting story. Obviously, like, he's a prolific drummer, but he was also in a plane crash.
B
Yeah.
A
And he has, like, a lot of lore tied to, like, Hollywood.
B
Yes. Then Sports Illustrated swimsuit Runway show special will air on Hulu.
A
Oh, I didn't see that either. Wait, that's kind of major, like, very much taking over Victoria's Secret.
B
Yeah.
A
And the Sports Illustrated. The Sports Illustrated swimsuit show, like, has become a real spectacle. Like, yeah, they've done a good job of like, tapping models and influencers, reality star celebrities. Oh, that's fun.
B
Yes. Then a weekly Get Real reality TV podcast hosted by Amanda Hirsch. Not skinny, but not bad.
A
I didn't see that it was hosted by her.
B
Yes. This is from Gibsonoma. He like, sort of summed up everything. Thank you.
A
Thank you.
B
Reality TV recap podcast. I also. It's a podcast on Hulu.
A
Great.
B
Do they have other podcasts?
A
Well, no. You know, this is the eternal thing. Like streamers, starting podcasts so they can be non union projects. But it's just a TV show.
B
But I don't think it's about the union at this time, this point. I really don't. Look how many union projects they're doing. You think they're scared of the union?
A
Just saying.
B
I just think that's a conspiracy. I think they just want to like people like a reality TV recap podcast. They don't like a reality TV recap TV show.
A
Well, no, it sounds like we were saying earlier it might have been on the recorded episode that ended up in the garbage. But that Hulu is really becoming such a hub of reality tv. It's kind of eclipsing Bravo where they have all these shows that are connected. They date from Vanderpump Villa to the Secret Lives. Like it's all the stars are connected and they need a watch what happens live.
B
Yeah. And Amanda Hirsch is a good choice for that.
A
Agreed.
B
I feel like when it comes to people who, like, are the reality TV recap, people would be like, her or the vials. I can't imagine that they have, like, the bandwidth to do a show like that.
A
No. Also, they did the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives first reunion, and I don't think the fans liked him, but they
B
do like other reunions on their show.
A
I know they host Temptation Island.
B
Yeah. Very cool.
A
I'm just saying, I think, like, the Q score came back. I'm sure he was considered then a
B
Christian college dating show called Ring by
A
Spring Break, which, like, is in pre production. They were like, asking for people to submit their profiles.
B
Yes. And then like season 22 of Project Runway.
A
Like, seriously, who gives a. Oh, I kind of like, didn't know. I'm like, why is Heidi Klum there?
B
Oh, that's funny.
A
But anyway, and then no Dancing with the Stars.
B
Oh, Dancing with the Stars. So two confirmed cast members. We have Maura Higgins and Sierra Miller confirmed.
A
Okay, so let's just talk about, like the two we knew. Maura, like, she was sort of rumored. I think they thought, everyone thought it was gonna be Maura and Rob and maybe it would have been. Haves it not been for like the two week long.
B
Sierra Miller and maybe Rob is still on the season. Yeah. But they just announced more confirmed. And then Maura cut to Sierra. She was like, like remote virtual work, like, saying that she's excited and she's gonna be on. I think that's like, really a great casting.
A
It's a great casting because, like, once she's having a moment and two, she's having a moment, like, it has exploded beyond the Bravo universe. But, like, this really does make you so globally known. Not globally, like nationally known. People who don't watch reality or don't want. It's just, it's such a big show. And maybe there was a time, because I remember when Alex Earl was announced last year. I remember I said, and I was wrong that like, this feels so low brow for her. But the show is now, I would say it's the biggest reality competition series. And it's like, it's such an attractive show to be on.
B
Highbrow.
A
Agreed. Like, I actually agree that now it seems like a natural next step for Sierra. Whereas maybe last year I would have thought if Sierra was like, having this moment, I would have been like, no, she should go somewhere else. But I don't consider it low brow anymore.
B
Yeah, I agree. I think this is going to be really fun. In another dazzling season of Dancing with the Stars. I'm excited to see who they are also cast.
A
I feel like with all the stancy with the star stuff, it's a great time to download Poly Market because I have a lot of predictions. Obviously I think I could have predicted Sierra and Maura. I also would have predicted Rob and have a good prediction that I'd like
B
to share a prediction for who's going
A
to be like a contestant with the stars, who you think everyone's saying like a lot of the same people, but I have someone like unique. Ashton Earl.
B
That's a good one. They do love siblings.
A
They love siblings and they have this big TV show coming out so they're doing like a lot of promo. She's kind of an it girl of the moment. I just saw her do an ad with Chanel. Like, I'm telling you, I feel like I have a lot of pop culture knowledge that I would like to put it.
B
Put in the market. Put it in.
A
Yeah. Let's take my pop culture knowledge to Poly Market. I spent all this time like thinking of things, predicting. Sometimes I'm wrong, sometimes I'm right. And I feel like Poly Market is kind of where I need to be.
B
Do we literally like do this for fun on the show? Guessing. I also think if you're gonna be making some predictions on Polymarket, I think Miranda from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives would be a very good prediction.
A
I like that. So download polymarket P O L Y M A R K E T and use code toast to get $20 free upon deposit.
B
Okay, well, that's all the stuff that we can look forward to in the next year, which is ultimately good news for the toast because we love watching great television and recapping it and this sounds like great television.
A
Shout out to Hulu for like doing that.
B
You know, shout out to Hulu for doing the most for hiring the people, for thinking big and small, you know, don't forget about like our little small friends who we could get on a show.
A
Absolutely.
B
So I think it's really great and exciting for the landscape.
A
For the landscape, for sure.
B
Our next story, exciting news for the landscape. Josh Allen praises his rock star wife Haley Seinfeld as he opens up about balancing football and being a new dad.
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Have they ever said the name of their baby?
B
Not yet. He did a press conference on Monday, announced answered questions about how becoming a father has changed his perspective on football in Life, he said. I mean, I think it definitely changed his mindset a little bit. I'm very excited. I do think this is going to be the best version of myself, you know, in all aspects of my professional career and my personal life. It's such a blessing. And I've got an absolute rock star of a wife that's doing so many things right now and allowing me to be here right now and be with my teammates. Noting that it's a special time.
A
I can't even report on these two anymore because I have nothing to say other than the fact that I just love them so much.
B
It's. And like, it just could bring a tear to the eye. And that's a sensitivity the side of you that's very right.
A
Not my wild side. And I also want to say something crazy about your sense. I want to say something crazy about Josh and Haley.
B
Okay.
A
I feel like they're this generation's Tom and Giselle.
B
I agree.
A
Like, they're on their way.
B
I agree.
A
You better. Okay.
B
But I also. In. Additionally.
A
Additionally. I see how you're going to use language to disagree. Go.
B
Additionally, I feel like they're pleasing a new path.
A
I additionally feel like they're blazing a new path as well.
B
Don't you find a path that's never been blazed before?
A
A new. A new path.
B
A new way forward.
A
Right.
B
A new way.
A
Yeah.
B
But yes, they are, in the sense that they are like, the biggest.
A
I guess Tom and Giselle is more like Travis and Taylor. No, like, I know because they're just. They have a clip set. He's not even a football player anymore.
B
Like, he's so many other things that, like being a part of Tom and Giselle made each of them even greater.
A
Right.
B
But also.
A
And then they became Tom and Giselle. Whereas, like Haley and Josh are going to become Haley and Josh.
B
And in the time that he was married to Giselle, like, that's when he became really goated. So when he said started like he wasn't the goat. And then same for her. But when they started, it was just another football player dating another model. They built that brick by brick.
A
True. It's true.
B
And they blazed it new way.
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I. I find that. Yes, I. I do find.
B
So just mazel to the Allens. Per usual. Like we say, sat for any information and crumbs that we can receive.
A
Absolutely. Tell us the name of your baby. I heard it's Harper.
B
You heard it's Harper Allen. Oh, we talked about this. Textbooks.
A
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
B
Sounds like textbook company.
A
McGraw Hill, Harper Allen. No, And I said. And I said, it's Harper Allen, attorney at Law. Like, it's such a law firm.
B
Yeah. Or it's Harper Allen. Beautiful baby girl.
A
Works for me too.
B
Our next story. Unwellmageddon. Get out the whiteboard.
A
What now? Oh.
B
Alex Cooper and her husband skip a team meeting after behavior complaints and Bloomberg article dropped. So unwell hosted in all hands, I guess, to, like, you know, voice concerns about unwell. And the two of them were not in attendance, according to the word on the street.
A
I wonder what it's like to work at a company that gets, like, a toxic workplace allegation. Like, what happens at the actual workplace.
B
Yeah, well, I feel like this happens all the time, actually. And apparently the. The CMO led the meeting. He said that, you know, employee turnover there is actually lower than most startups. So I guess, yeah, if you compare employee turnover to, like, gm, it's very high. But if you compare it to, like, other startups where people, like, work hard, burnout, decide this isn't right for them, like, things are moving a mile a minute. It's more.
A
The Bloomberg article was extremely soft. Like, there were. I. I know now for a fact there's a Vanity Fair article currently being, like, a real hit piece being worked on right now. And this one kind of came out preemptively. I didn't feel like there was anything in the article that crazy, except that her husband yells at everyone. So the turnover rate being, like, the headline. I'm sorry. Like, that's sort of like the nature of startups, the nature of media. Like, I didn't. I don't find that to be, like, a huge red flag. Like, the article didn't really have anything new except that her husband yells. So it's like, sure, let's hear from your husband. But he didn't go to the meeting.
B
Yeah, yeah. It was just sort of like a summation of everything they've done and not done in the years.
A
It was like, also a summation of, like, the art, the. The online backlash. Like, it was not real investigative journalism. It was, like, I think, sloppily and quickly put together. Yes, but this Vanity Fair piece that allegedly is coming was in the works long before. I think they threw this together. When Alex Cooper started, like, trending at Bloomberg, I think that's what happened. The Vanity Fair one, just, like, bad timing, I've heard is in the works for, like, weeks and months.
B
Well, I guess we'll see what that one entails. No word from Alex or anything regarding
A
no business as Usual. Zara Larson on the podcast, posting clips, posting pictures of the dog. You know, deflect onto the dog.
B
Deflect onto the dog. And Bruno doesn't like that. We were talking about it because a lot of people wanted his thoughts on this first Lex, and he just finds it all to be, like, animal abuse.
A
It's kind of textbook tokenism, you know, like, just using your dog. Honestly, it really is not cool.
B
Not cool. So. Yeah. But I also feel like the rumors are just. The rumors of nastiness are rumors and nastiness. And it's like, I can't keep apart, like, what I've seen from, like, randoms online versus, like, whispers, like, of just, like, I know, really saying, like, the worst things about them. I feel like it's getting really bad.
A
It is getting really bad, but it's all unsubstantiated. I think people take, like, whenever someone's, you know, in the doghouse, they feel like they should make a tick tock about the interaction they had. And I think that they blow it out of proportion a lot of times. So I. In order for it to, like, to be in Vanity Fair, like, it has to be pretty vetted. And so I think that'll be like a. More of a. A damn telltale.
B
Yeah.
A
If there's real allegations in there. Because everybody keeps saying, and I did this, and I heard him and he did this, but it's all very he said, she said. I don't think any of it is, like, really verified, so I'll hold my breath until then. I. I do feel bad for her. Like, I. I do.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, the hits start coming and they don't stop coming.
B
Yeah.
A
I think maybe at a point in the saga, I would have said, like, she can, you know, get out of this unscathed. But now, like, we have so many, like, postmarks coming up, like, benchmarks, whatever. We have this Vanity Fair article. We have Alex Earl's reality show. We have Sophia's book. It's like six months. Kind of like when Justin Timberlake had such a. Like, every month, there was something bad coming out. A documentary of him from the 90s. The pictures of him holding a hand of a woman. You know, it just. The hits start coming, and I feel like that's what's going to happen to her. It's just going to be sort of nonstop over the next couple of months.
B
And it's crazy that as of this moment, it's not even about licks versus Lex anymore.
A
Oh, yeah. And, like, trust me, I want to hear From Alex. But it's just like not even the topic of discussion anymore.
B
It's really like devolved into unwell. Mageddon.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. And unwell. And then you know, I, I people do also say like the name unwell, which it's like.
A
Well, it is Sophia's word.
B
Yeah. Which is really crazy. That's really crazy. And if that's true, like why don't people make more of that?
A
Well, I would love to hear from a lawyer actually like what Sophia's entitled to because Alex selling Sophia's work to Spotify. But I guess Sophia relinquished ownership of that work when she left Barstool.
B
I don't think they had a contract in place. So it was anyone's for the taking. And whoever gets on the microphone and gets the right. There's no contract. There was not a contract.
A
Which is just, it's just crazy. Yeah. And then yes, starting merch products, beverages, tours, networks with she. Obviously that's not like a word. Like we invented the word pargy. Like unwell is a pre existing word in the dictionary, but under the terms like in the, the context was Sophia. Yeah. What are you legally entitled to? I don't think anything. I just think it's like this really gray area of like, like I think unethical.
B
No. And it's just like listeners would know that like, like Sophia surfaced the word unwell in one of her stories or whatever and then like Alex went on to like co opt it and make it right.
A
Her thing.
B
Really crazy. But it's like I can't help but think like if Sophia was the one who went to Dave and took the podcast, there was no way, there's no way Alex would have taken that sitting down. I feel like she would have had some sort of recourse, I guess like she would have fought and Sophia didn't fight. Yeah.
A
And I think when we criticize like not we like when people criticize Alex Cooper for that. Like if Sophia had gone to Dave and taken the podcast, like I don't think Call Her Daddy would be now what it is like she and she had said this once that I thought it was like quite self aware of her. She's like, I'm not a journalist, I'm a marketer. And it's. Yeah. Because everybody comes to her like you don't ask any follow up questions. Like Call Her Daddy is not some like investigative platform. It's not going to get you like the best, most thorough interview. It's a press stop. And it's a lot of like Fluff and yeah, it's all marketing. And so that's her real skill. Skill and like brilliance is what she turned it into. And I don't think if Sophia had taken it, it would be what it is now.
B
Yeah, I would agree with that.
A
I'm glad.
B
Are you ready for our next story?
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If it's our next story that's brought to you by, I just want to
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say I feel like we really didn't talk about Licks versus Lex and we can put the one back up on the board.
A
We didn't talk about Licks versus Lex.
B
So we could put. Because doesn't the board say lick slacks? Lick slacks. Not unwell.
A
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B
Thank you. Turd back.
A
You're welcome.
B
Our fourth story, Nikki Glaser shared a funny anecdote about sending flowers to everyone she made fun of at the Golden Globes. And.
A
Oh, that's cute.
B
The only person who responded with a gift of their own was Leonardo DiCaprio, who sent her three baskets of pasta. So a class act.
A
I love. First of all, little behind the scenes, like details and logistics like this. This is what I live for.
B
Yeah. So she is promoting her new comedy special called Good Girl, which also, like, it seems as though she's about to be on Get Real with Me with Alex Earl.
A
Oh, my. The most embarrassing thing is happening to me.
B
What?
A
So Alex Earl posted a video, like, teasing her new guest. And she was talking to camera. She's like, my next guest is a comedian, a Taylor Swift super fan, and, like, Internet, like, commentator sort of. And all the comments, Jackie, everyone was saying me, and it's like, first of all, kill me. I'm just. I'm humiliated. It's not me.
B
Wait, why are you humiliated? Because it's not you.
A
Because it's not me.
B
Okay, so is that the embarrassing thing that's happening to you? I thought you Might have commented on it. Something. Do you comment?
A
No.
B
You should comment something and act like it's you. Be like, can't wait to chat.
A
Oh, I should be like, guys, remember when I took that trip to LA last month? Meanwhile, I've like, literally never been to la. You guys remember when I took that trip to LA last month? Month.
B
You could just like. Or just like comment some emojis, like the raising hand or something. Just like make it about you, get some eyes on you.
A
Wasn't Nikki Glazer just on Call Her Daddy?
B
Yes. So I think that's like really crazy. And then she was also on One of the Jimmies talking about Licks versus and I think she. Considering she's about to be on Get Real and was just with both girls, I think she's actually handled it really deftly.
A
Yeah, I'm surprised Lex would want a guest that was just on Lex.
B
Yeah, I actually am very surprised. And that actually makes no sense.
A
Sense. It makes no sense. She must not have known. I could. I would have seen her canning the
B
episode like, yeah, but she's going full steam with the promo and the good girl on the mirror and the guesses. Everybody does, like, guesses for their.
A
And Jackie, like the guessing, like, good girl, good guys.
B
Oh, yeah, it's me.
A
It's literally me.
B
You should comment. Be like, is it me? You could say, is it me? Because then you're not being a liar, acting like it's you.
A
Okay, hold on.
B
Go do it.
A
That's a good comment. Hold on.
B
Everyone go like Claudia's comment and hype her up.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so get.
B
Tell her that she's beautiful with me and tell her that you've seen her wild side.
A
Have some fun. Have some good girl chat. So our guest today is a comedian, a host, an actress, a writer, and she's possibly Taylor Swift's biggest fan. Please welcome and what am I saying? Is it me? Literally the top comment. Claudia, say, is it me?
B
Two question mark. I feel like that really connotes the level of questioning we're going for.
A
If it's Turdy, I will die. Please let it be Claudia. Tell me it's turdy. Claudia.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Claudia. Claudia. If it's Claudia, I swear to God, Jackie, everyone thinks that it's me.
B
That's so great. And I'm sure Alex is seeing that and it's like, oh, maybe that's giving her the idea. Just like Craig now has the idea to date Kelsey Ballerini.
A
Please be turning Lou free bush Turdy. Oh, my God. Claudia. Claudia. I'm so hyped. Please be Claudia. Are you a girly swirly?
B
Are there any comments? Guessing Nikki?
A
Yeah, like three, but more guessing you. More. Oh, way more.
B
Is it you? Did you go and get real?
A
Tune in to find out, you guys.
B
Wow. Well, anyways, I think it's Nikki.
A
It is.
B
It is.
A
It's not me.
B
And she shared a story about Leonardo DiCaprio, how he was the only one to respond to her.
A
Oh, right.
B
Golden Globes, flowers.
A
That's really cute.
B
He sent her three boxes of pasta because of the joke that she shared about how nobody knows anything about him. But actually, in 1999, he did an interview with. 1991, he did an interview with Tiger Boot, sharing that his favorite food was pasta, pasta, and more pasta.
A
That's really funny.
B
So he said the three boxes of
A
pasta, and she said it was pasta, pasta and pasta.
B
He. She said it was so funny and so good. And part of me was like, does Leah want to smash?
A
She's seriously so funny. And she slays this hosting award show that like jobs so well. And the fact that everybody likes her. Like, Leonardo's joking back with her. Like, she's just really assuring that she's gonna have this job for the next at least five. Five years.
B
Yeah, he. But then she said the type of girl he goes for, he wouldn't send pasta to.
A
So true. She's so funny.
B
Then she said it was dry pasta. I think the company was mena pasta spaghettios. Maybe I would have been more his type. Crack a crib full of dunkaroos and go gurt. I would have been like, oh, he's into me.
A
She seriously can't help herself.
B
She's so funny.
A
She's so funny. Give her all the hosting jobs. Jobs.
B
Yeah, yeah. Just hysterical stuff.
A
Hysterical stuff.
B
Oh, and on Licks vs Lex, she did say that she is team Alex
A
Aladdin. That's funny. I didn't see her say that. That's really funny.
B
Yeah, she. She did say. And she made it known that she's team Alex.
A
I just want to say I'm. I am also team Alex.
B
Yeah, I think that's the right team to be on.
A
I. I thought about it a lot.
B
It feels right, you know, you have to go with your gut and your conscience too. You have to sleep at night.
A
Of course. Right?
B
Our fifth and final story is finally making the fast five, because there was no other fifth and final story.
A
Kylie wants to sell Cody to Jeff Bezos.
B
No, no, I moved on from that. It's that Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian are getting handsy in a PDA packed beach date. So Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian are in, dating out and about showing us their relationship. They went to Nobu. They couldn't keep their hands off each other as they took a dip in the ocean in Malibu. Plenty of photos of them which, like, in another world, like, Kim and a man on the beach, like, touching, feely. We'd be gagged if I had a
A
heart rate monitor on. Like, the person monitoring it would think I was dead. Like, that's how little I care.
B
But that's how little news there has to be for us to give these two final day.
A
And it's like, you know what? Maybe you should get your ass off the beach and go to the Get Real with Hulu event, because that's where things are actually happening and that's where your sister is, like, putting in the work.
B
Like, maybe show up to the Get Real Hulu event with Lewis Hamilton and
A
I'll care and then I'll care.
B
Maybe still a maybe.
A
No, I would care.
B
But they are, like, frolicking on the beach, laughing. They're like, literally in a full blown, like, they're in love. Which is all I've ever wanted for Kim, like, since. And I do want to say, and
A
Pete, going to the beach on a date is like. Like, means that you're at a really, like, intimate place.
B
Comfortable.
A
Yeah, because beach is where you're totally stripped down, obviously, like your body, but also makeup. And, you know, you don't let someone see that until you're already married.
B
And like, when you get rocked by a wave, like, that's. That's you at your lowest, most vulnerable point wave.
A
That is the truest thing you've ever said. Like, there is nothing more ugly than getting hit by a wave. Like, you just lose all sense of confidence and, like, control, and you just
B
look like a slob, like an octopus rag.
A
And they were doing actually the funniest thing you've ever said.
B
Thank you so much. They were also doing surfing, so they were, like, encountering and embracing big waves.
A
And have you ever seen somebody surf, like, unsuccessfully? It's extremely unattractive.
B
Yeah, it's very humbling. So this speaks well of the level of comfortability in their relationship. Like, she could be herself and they're like, hugging, kissing in the waves.
A
Like, That's Real Love 100.
B
That's right.
A
Yeah. And also, at least with, with me, when I'm in the ocean, like, my nose runs a lot. It's just like. It's really unattractive.
B
Oh. And I always have to hold my nose when I go under, which is super cool. Like I said, unattractive, which is a super cool thing.
A
Now, not to keep bringing this up, but, like, we did record basically two episodes. I have to pee.
B
Yeah.
A
So bad. We've been sitting here for three hours, so I am gonna wrap up.
B
Please do.
A
Oh, I have a new wrap up. I forgot. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Millennium Morning show, where we deliver the Fast 5 stories every Monday through Friday on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple podcasts. The place looks great. Well, it always does. Thank you.
B
Love you. Bye.
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2026
Episode Theme:
A lively, chatty Thursday episode capturing Jackie and Claudia’s signature recap of trending pop culture, personal musings, and a deep dive into Hulu’s massive new reality TV slate. The hosts reflect on the joys and pitfalls of podcasting—including the classic “forgot to record” mishap—while exploring topics from the 'wild side' of Claudia to the ever-dramatic world of influencers and reality celebs. The episode is peppered with laughs, personal anecdotes, insider media commentary, and of course—the ongoing saga of “Licks vs Lex”.
(Main segment with multiple sub-discussions; highly timestamped below)
Effortlessly conversational, snarky, sisterly, and warm—Jackie and Claudia balance ribbing, earnestness, and deep pop culture obsession. Inside jokes, playful contradictions, and the classic “tangents over hard news” energy make this episode classic Toast.
Listeners who want to be caught up on smart, sharp, and hilarious reality TV and influencer news—plus insider podcast/cultural industry context—all in the tone of your chatty best friends.
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