The Toast Podcast
Episode: Dubrovnik Smash Burger
Date: Monday, November 10th, 2025
Hosts: Claudia Oshry (A) & Guest Co-Host Shannon Ford (B)
Episode Overview
This Monday episode of The Toast is a lively, honest, and wide-ranging chat between Claudia Oshry and guest Shannon Ford. While the show remains rooted in delivering the "fast five" pop culture stories, much of the first half is defined by their candid conversation about new motherhood, friendship, personal journeys, and a healthy dose of humor about the chaos of life. Later in the episode, Claudia and Shannon shift to discuss major pop culture events, including Kris Jenner's legendary birthday bash, Kelsea Ballerini's poignant new song, Shay Mitchell’s toddler skincare line controversy, and more—always through the lens of their authentic personalities and signature wit.
1. New Motherhood, Friendship, and Identity
[00:00–19:29]
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Mom Life is Consuming (and That’s Okay):
- Both hosts joke about the all-consuming nature of new motherhood.
- Claudia describes herself sweating in sweats, breast milk leaking—Shannon, meanwhile, is glam in a (not-so-)cropped Fendi top.
- Their babies are about three months apart, and their "militant" approach to routines is a theme.
- Notable quote:
- "Do you find yourself, like, not being able to stop talking about new mama things?" – Claudia [01:22]
- “It's all-consuming in the best way possible. And I don't want to talk—I have nothing else to talk about.” – Shannon [01:32]
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Sharing Lessons, Paying It Forward:
- They discuss the urge to offer support, guidance, and validation to other moms.
- “What's the point in going through this journey and learning so much if I can't pass it on to the next mama?” – Claudia [02:13]
- Importance of being "psycho and militant" about routines: “Some people are like, ‘Girl, babies aren’t robots.’... But, like, if she was AI baby for the day, what would you suggest?” – Shannon [02:22]
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Family Dynamics and Boundaries:
- Discussing enforcing nap routines amidst family and travel.
- “Yes, we will cut the day short for the nap.” – Claudia [02:41]
- On Independent Sleeping: “Grandma’s got to independently sleep.” – Claudia & Shannon [03:19–03:22]
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Motherhood Candor:
- Both confess to wanting “seven more” kids despite the chaos.
- “If you gave me seven right now, I’d be like, ‘Okay, I’ll figure it out.’” – Shannon [03:38]
2. By Heart Infant Formula Recall
[03:50–05:08]
- Claudia addresses a real-time recall for By Heart infant formula, a show sponsor, emphasizing responsibility and community care:
- “They had a recall over the weekend. I did want to mention it in case you guys hadn’t heard about it.” – Claudia [04:41]
- “Check your lot numbers... Just cross reference with the ones you have.” – Claudia [04:42]
3. Feeding Journeys & Baby POV
[05:10–08:15]
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“Oversupply” and Milk Regulation:
- Shannon recounts her breastfeeding journey as a “dairy factory,” and the surprise of becoming an “oversupplier.”
- “She liked to be waterboarded by the titties.” – Shannon [05:53]
- When her supply regulated, daughter was frustrated, highlighting how abruptly things can shift.
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Empathy for Babies:
- “Being a baby is really hard. So I’m always just like, listen, I got you... It’s so sad when you think about the POV of a baby.” – Claudia [06:46]
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Singing & Childhood Memories:
- Fun tangent: Shannon sings “Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes”—in Japanese(!)—explaining her small-town school taught Japanese language instead of Spanish.
- “Why do you know the Japanese version? And why is it better than English?” – Claudia [08:15]
- “They taught us Japanese—that was what we learned in elementary school and middle school.” – Shannon [08:29]
4. Cancellations, Internet Culture, and Navigating Podcast Drama
[09:46–13:16]
- Lauren Bostick’s “Cancellation”:
- Shannon addresses being inadvertently dragged into the controversy after appearing on an episode.
- She notes Lauren's “doesn’t care” attitude helped her cope; Shannon chose not to address the drama publicly.
- “Lauren is one of those, like, gorgeous freaks of nature who actually means it when she says that.” – Shannon [10:17]
- “I knew I could lay my little head down at night and rest and know that all I said was that I, like, eat sushi pregnant. So, like, I don't care.” – Shannon [11:03]
- On consuming content: “Only consume what makes you happy. And that's what I was saying on her podcast.” – Shannon [12:16]
5. The Baby Naming Journey
[13:48–19:09]
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From Goldie to Daisy:
- Claudia reveals Shannon’s initial choice was Goldie, but it changed to Daisy after a serendipitous Amazon baby name book moment.
- “Her middle name is Patricia, which is my grandmother's name and it's, like, the most special thing ever to me. But Daisy I just got from a book off Amazon.” – Shannon [16:41]
- Discussion on cultural naming traditions, honoring relatives by name or letter (especially in Jewish culture):
- “I like to be a little bit more on the nose. But I might have so many children that I can't be so on the nose.” – Claudia [17:33]
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Dream Sibling Orders & Gender Preferences:
- Both discuss fantasies about sibling combos, with playful jabs at “dweeby” little brothers and “Respect women” energy from brothers of sisters.
- “When you have a boy, you can have either next. When you have a girl first, you almost kind of wish you have a sister next.” – Shannon [18:26]
6. Fast Five Pop Culture Stories
[Starts 19:15, Headlines Below]
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Story 1: Kris Jenner’s 70th Birthday Party
[25:34–32:26]- A Bond-themed blowout at Jeff Bezos’ house, Mindy Weiss planning, a guest list full of A-listers (Oprah, Mariah Carey, Kim, Beyonce, Harry & Meghan, Adele, Bieber, more).
- Claudia is (rarely) struck by FOMO:
- “I very rarely, like, see things online and I'm like, oh, I wish I was there.” [27:24]
- Discussion of exclusivity, celebrity culture dynamics, and Kris being the “most underrated” Kardashian:
- “Chris is so underrated... She bridges the gaps of any drama because everyone just loves Chris. America runs on Kris Jenner.” – Shannon [30:35]
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Story 2: Kelsea Ballerini & Chase Stokes – Croatia Sighting & Music Revelations
[32:26–39:18]- Kelsea and Chase spotted again post-breakup (“Dubrovnik Smash Burger”!), sparking reunion rumors.
- More emotional was Kelsea’s new song about longing for motherhood, which resonated deeply for both hosts.
- “I could not get over... And the actual like, music video was so good... When it scrolls to the bottom and it says written by Kelsey Ballerini with not another single person on there, it's such a slay to me.” – Shannon [34:27]
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Discussion: Career vs. Motherhood for Creatives & Corporate Moms
- Both reflect on how content creation has made motherhood more doable for them, compared to those with traditional jobs:
- “I do feel like when content creators become... moms, it opens you up to just like a whole new demographic, a whole new opportunity.” – Claudia [38:21]
- "The internet has kind of grown up with me. So... they're also growing up and most likely having children or maybe not... they're evolving." – Shannon [41:11]
- Both reflect on how content creation has made motherhood more doable for them, compared to those with traditional jobs:
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Story 3: Shay Mitchell’s Toddler Skincare Line (“RINI”) and Backlash
[47:09–52:38]- Claudia introduces the topic: “Shay Mitchell... launched a new company, and it's sparking backlash because it's a toddler skincare line.”
- Both hosts feel conflicted: acknowledging the trend of kids younger and younger joining skincare routines, yet uncomfortable about formalizing it for children.
- “If a kid wants to copy their mom... we might as well give them a brand that's safe, but... if I were to make a thing for kids, it’s a way to get kids outside and off their phones.” – Claudia [48:34]
- “It’s really bizarre that it’s for toddlers. It creates this weird thought of babies being adults.” – Shannon [50:29]
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Story 4: Kim Kardashian Fails the Bar (Again)
[52:51–56:09]- Kim didn't pass, but Claudia (and Shannon) stress it isn’t a big deal: “So many successful lawyers [have failed]. It’s not a litmus test...”
- “She wants the baby face and the fat ass. She wants the Oscar on her bathroom floor. She wants it all. And, like, she should have it. She should have it all.” – Shannon [54:05]
- “If I’m a billionaire, you’re not gonna catch me doing this much.” – Claudia [53:52]
- Sincere respect for Kim’s persistence and multidimensional ambition.
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Story 5: Halloween Weirdness – Rachel Lynn Matthews as Katy Perry, Orlando Bloom
[56:13–61:20]- An actress dressed as Katy Perry at a party, posing with Orlando Bloom, causing online speculation.
- Claudia and Shannon agree it’s “a nothing burger," poking fun at the way the internet loves a reach.
7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Being Inseparable as New Moms:
- “She's closer to me than she is with Jackie or Margot, but we have recently become just sort of inseparable. Our babies are, like, three months apart?” – Claudia [01:00]
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On Motherhood and Identity:
- “I need, like, seven more [kids]... if you gave me seven right now, I'd be like, okay, I'll figure it out.” – Shannon [03:22]
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On Breastfeeding:
- “Your girl was straight, milky girl... a dairy factory. I felt very blessed.” – Shannon [05:16]
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On Community & Support:
- “It's like, what's the point in going through this journey and, like, learning so much if I can't pass it on to the next mama?” – Claudia [02:13]
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On "Cancel" Culture:
- “Only consume what makes you happy, feel good, feel good in this moment, and if that podcast made you irate, throw it away in the trash. Block us, do whatever.” – Shannon [12:15]
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On Career & Motherhood:
- "It opens you up to just like a whole new demographic, a whole new opportunity... when content creators... become moms." – Claudia [38:21]
8. Timestamps for Key Segments
- [00:00] – Opening banter and intro; outfits & energy differences
- [01:00] – Best-friends dynamic, motherhood talk
- [03:50] – Formula recall PSA
- [05:16] – Feeding journey, oversupply, and regulating
- [07:10] – Singing voice & Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes (in Japanese)
- [09:46] – Addressing the Lauren Bostick “cancellation” episode
- [13:48] – Baby naming journey (Goldie v. Daisy)
- [18:45] – Fantasy sibling orders; gender/age combos
- [25:34] – Kris Jenner's birthday party (pop culture stories start here)
- [32:26] – Kelsea Ballerini & Chase Stokes in Croatia; motherhood longing song
- [39:18] – Creative jobs as a path to “thriving” in motherhood
- [47:09] – Shay Mitchell toddler skincare controversy
- [52:51] – Kim Kardashian does not pass the bar
- [56:13] – Halloween: Rachel Lynn Matthews/Katy Perry/Orlando Bloom
- [61:20] – Digital footprints, Twitter sweeps (“Very Cavallari”)
- [63:23] – Podcast plug for Shannon’s own show; acknowledgements and wrap
9. Episode Tone and Reader Experience
The episode is upbeat, irreverent, and honest, blending chatty humor with raw candor—especially on motherhood. The pop culture segments are delivered with genuine personality and witty commentary. Claudia and Shannon’s easy rapport makes the show feel like a late-morning catch-up between friends, full of validation, warmth, and sharp observations.
10. For Further Listening
- Shannon Ford’s Podcast: “Probably a Podcast” (Dear Media)
- Follow Shannon: @probablyshannon
Closing:
"You want to dive into the archive—sometimes I talk about getting [bleeped]. Sometimes." – Shannon [63:43]
"That's how you have to commit. You do have to commit. Hailey Bieber did; we don't remember her as Hailey Baldwin." – Claudia [64:17]
Sign-off:
“Love ya, bye!” – Both [64:58–65:01]
This summary offers a thorough yet colorful encapsulation of the November 10, 2025, episode—perfect for staying caught up on both The Toast’s iconic banter and the must-know pop culture buzz of the week.