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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off.
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Swirly.
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It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Friday. That's right. Pat yourself on the back. Did it. Ready for another Swirly summer weekend? Hey, Jax, how you're D?
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I'm D. Good. It's a beautiful day.
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It actually is a beautiful day, both in spirit and in physicality, because it's gorgeous out. But we also. We did something quite beautiful and cathartic this morning.
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Something very spiritual. And I actually think our outfits sort of embody what we did this morning.
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Very ethereal, very, like, freeing.
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Born.
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Yes.
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Life.
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The official releasing of the hostages was this morning. We got gave the butterflies their freedom. We had, like, a beautiful little ceremony. Ceremony in the driveway. Zach made a speech that, like, legit almost brought me to tears. He was like. He was joking, but I was like, wait, that's so beautiful. He was, like, talking to the butterflies, like, wishing them luck on their journey and letting them know, like, this is always their home. Oh, my God. I literally got, like, choked up. It was so sweet. And it is, one by one, they flew the coop. And it was really. It was beautiful.
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Yeah, it was. And our resident animal rights activist approved. Were you pleased? Everything did it. Was it up to code?
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I mean, we did lose one. We knew that there's been this, like, dead one, but it keeps, like, moving a little bit, so we didn't know if we should, like, throw it out or whatever. It was the last to leave because it's dead. And then Zach just, like, sort of picked it up and, like, left it on a leaf. Yeah, it's, like, still moving a little bit. So we're just giving it space.
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Yeah, give it space. Maybe it can heal itself. And I think that's really good, is that we only had one casualty. Some people said they've done it and they've gotten no butterfly sick. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, he's wounded. Yeah, he has a boo boo.
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Yes.
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It was really amazing. I've linked it a couple times on my stories, but you should definitely do it. It's been, like, a great part of our summer. I said to Claudia, it really marks, I would say, the middle of swirly summer, and today is the last day of July.
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True.
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And we started this project at the beginning of summer, and it really just marks this passage of time. And. And I think the Passage of time has been significant.
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It's kind of like visiting day at camp. Like you knew the summer was half over when your parents came to visit.
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Yeah. And Zach said like he wanted to do it again because like the Shapiroes are coming and they would like. But I don't even know if we have enough time because it actually took three plus weeks.
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Genuinely sorry to the Shapiro. Like you just had to be there. Like you had to be there. We can't recreate it.
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And you also, like, you had to be there for them living on our dining table for the last few weeks.
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Correct. I'm excited to get the dining room table back. Like so much more space for activities.
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Yes. Me as well. Can't recommend enough. It was really beautiful and I think it was completely animal friendly. Like, I agree.
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No. All in all, they ended up free. And I personally love to see animals being released from captivity. That is one of my jobs. Like one of the goals with my job. So I was thrilled to see that they almost all made it successfully and it was beautiful and the kids loved it. It was so sweet.
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And we had like a very ethical and safe environment for them.
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Definitely ethical.
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Yeah.
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No one could accuse us of being otherwise.
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So that was a really great way to start the day. I would say it was.
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I did this so of message of freedom.
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We continued with the party vibes. We drove together again.
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We did. Cuz we're filming a vlog after this
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and I just feel like film the vlog separately. It means you love driving with me. We're having fun.
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I have no complaints.
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That's so sweet.
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No complaints. And some days I just want to like cruise. And today I just like to be a passenger. Princess.
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We listen to new music and I
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actually don't drive a lot. Like I've always been the sister who like drives. Cuz none of you guys learned how to drive till you were 30 and I did when I was 18. Just cuz like Ben taught me. But I'm always being driven by Ben so I actually don't even drive that much.
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Yeah, we had like a nice time jamming out.
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It was lovely. Listening to new music Friday. New Kelly Clarkson music. I'd be Lyon. New Ellie Goulding.
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New Ellie Goulding. Four Seasons.
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I feel like Kelly Clarkson might have a boyfriend. Like she is notorious for writing her own music. She even writes for others. So the last time we heard from her was her divorce album. And today she's like talking about like a guy she can't stop thinking about.
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But then the last song she Put out was about Meryl Streep and Martin Short. Like, where have you been?
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Yeah, but so she told us that it was like she was seeking inspiration from others.
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Maybe it's like the song just came out.
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I feel like she's self referencing. I feel like she's self referencing.
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Okay. You could, like, feel the. The personal nature of the song.
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Like, who. Who are we shipping Kelly with these days? There's literally nobody on earth good enough. You know, she needs, like, not him, because obviously he's very happily married. But, like, the vibe of, like, Peter Herman.
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Yes. But I think she also needs a commoner. Like, yeah, with a group.
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What about, like, a commoner in the industry? Even though that is what she had
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last time, I think, like, a true commoner with, like, a very good job so that he's not, like, threatened by her, like, level of wealth.
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Yeah.
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A nerd.
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Yeah. Someone who cusses a little. Yeah, I like that.
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That's what I think.
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What else did I want to tell you?
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Oh, and then we're filming our vlog today with Ms. Margot.
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So that's also why Margot came to town.
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We journeyed together. Yeah, we journey fretted.
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I had something I want to say. I just. I can't remember. Oh, I tried to watch House of Sassy last night. I couldn't get into my Hulu, so I will be watching it this weekend. But I just want to say, like, I'm seeing a lot of positive response. Even someone here was saying that they watch, and they're like, we're obsessed with Taylor. And it's like, I've literally been trying to tell you guys this. I do feel that she will be the breakout star. I just want, like, I told you first. I told you so.
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Yeah, we know.
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Did you see that? They had a Halloween party? The theme is, like, so Stasi Bubonic plague. I saw and Taylor Swagger dressed up as Blake Lively, and she was like, I know it's the bubonic theme plague, but, like, lively is bubonic theme. Bubonic plague of our time. Even though I don't agree with that. It's a funny joke. She's going viral for that. I'm really excited for her. Like, it's about time.
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Yeah. I don't know if the owner is logged into Hulu, so if he.
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The owner was not logged into Hulu, and, you know, we all use Zach Shapiro's Hulu, so it's just been, like, a very trying time.
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If he's logged in, I can watch House of Saucy. If he's not logged in, I can. I can only watch Amazon Prime.
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I also don't know if, like, I'm really capable of not to make everything about me. I just don't really know if I'm capable of giving, like, an accurate recap. One, because, like, I'm clearly so biased. And two, like, I'm not willing to change those biases. Like, I know love Taylor Shrek. Like, I will. I will never see any fault in anything she did.
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Agreed.
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And I loathe with my entire being, Katie Maloney. And those two things are just like facts of life. They're not, like, open to changing.
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Right.
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So, like, yeah, I can watch and give a recap, but don't expect to hear anything besides that.
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And, like, what if? Objectively, even though I don't. I couldn't see how it could happen.
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But, like, what if, like, Katie Maloney is, like, making firepoints against Taylor Shrek. She's definitely not, but, like, what if? Yeah, it's just. I will never. I'm just. There are two different types of people
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who are close to it.
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You're either a Katie Maloney or a Turdy Lou. Like, you cannot be both.
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You're too close. Close to it.
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I am, like, not to be annoyed. Like, I was supposed to be in the video. You know, when I was filming Matt Singer, I was, like, trying to. I was gonna, like, weasel my way. And she was having a Halloween party, and I was, like, gonna make myself, you know. But you could cameo.
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You couldn't even make it.
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I couldn't hack it. Yeah. I didn't make it to Halloween.
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Maybe season two, Queen Corgi.
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I would have showed up as Queen Corgi.
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I love. I miss Queen Corgi.
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I don't. I know in a physical sense, obviously. Like, you guys know I was deeply uncomfortable physically being in that, but I guess, like, in an emotional sense. No. I also don't miss her, but we will always have. They should have given me, like, her head. I know they keep them in a museum because they are, like, thousands of dollars, but they should be on the set, like, right here.
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Yeah, they should.
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They should.
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Yeah. Recipes I matched with Ben yesterday. We played Time Ease. I don't even know if you, like, caught that because, like, I didn't.
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When did.
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You were so slick with it. Where did I go after?
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In the afternoon or in the night?
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In the afternoon.
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Where was I? Where was.
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Oh, you went to the spa.
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I did go to the spa. I got a gift card for my birthday And I was like, you know what?
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At.
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To a local spa, which was such a thoughtful gift. So I went. Yeah, I. I got a massage.
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Oh. I went to music class. And then when I came home, like, Ben was in the living room, and I was in the living room, and I was, like, siamese. And we just, like, got in a couple rounds. Best of three.
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That's nice.
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And I got my fix, and that was it. Then I had to, like, go to Petco for Bruno.
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Bruno's become such a liability, but we're working through it.
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Yeah, we are. He's on, like, a strict schedule now. He's just sort of been, like, loosey goosey summer.
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Yeah.
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And eating this. We all have. Doing that. And now it's boot camp for Bruno.
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Is my part in my hair, like, straight, or is it, like, fo?
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It's not fo, but it's not straight. So, like. Yeah, like, drag your finger.
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Okay. It feels like not. You know, I love, like, a.
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It's not like.
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Oh, my God. You are always setting me up. Oh, my God.
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But, like, no, you should have gone the other way from the back. My rat tail, like, call Magnolia.
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Okay.
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Oh, my God, Magnolia's here. Magnolia's here, which means Ms. Margo's here, which is so exciting. Look at me.
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Oh, my God. It's worse than ever.
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Drag from the back to the front.
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Who does that? I don't. It's pretty good. Like, I. I can tell. Like, the earth feels off balance if my part is not, like, dead set. That's better.
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Yeah.
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My hair is so oily. I've gotten into, like, a really lazy place here where I'm washing my hair, like, maximum. Twice a week.
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Maximum.
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Maximum.
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Max. Well.
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And it's not good.
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Twice a week is good.
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Well, one of the times that I wash them is at the salon because I've been getting weekly blowouts, and I feel like that's, like, a major wash
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to the salon, literally.
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Don't you feel like that counts as, like, three washes? They do wash it twice, but it's
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just such a deep clean. Yes, it is.
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It will always be one of the great joys of my life, getting my scalp, like, scratched at the salon.
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Yeah.
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Such a good feeling.
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That is a good feeling.
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Sometimes they're not going hard enough. I'm just like, you're gonna make me bleed.
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Yeah. That's where I can.
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When I get massages, I'm always, like, very gentle. I do not like deep tissues.
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No, same. I got a massage while I got a manicure. Yesterday. And, like, every time I go, they, like, offer one, but I'm like, no, it hurts too much.
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Like, I'm very sensitive, but I really
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needed to be like, massage. So I was like, I'll sit through it. I'm like, alan. He's like. And the guy goes, no pain, no gain. That's. That's not true of a massage.
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No, no. Especially a nail salon massage. It's just, like, a way to passively pass the time.
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Massage is meant to be, like, relaxing. It's not meant to be painful.
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Some people find the pain, like, good.
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This isn't physical therapy.
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No.
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Correct. No pain, no gain.
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No. I love, like, a. Really. I always say, like, I like to relax. I want to fall asleep. Like, you can't fall asleep if you're being needed. Like a piece of bread. But when it comes to the scalp, I want you to make me believe
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I know my scalp can take a lot. I love a scalp massage. Otherwise, though, I am very tender.
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But there are a lot of people, when they get a massage, they skip the scalp. Like, it's not. It's not a universal thing that everyone likes. I always say, like, you can skip my back.
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Oh, I want you to.
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You.
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You can skip my legs.
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You can skip my legs because I also probably haven't shaved them.
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And that's not like, you can see my. I say you can use them as, like, as a connecting point. Don't just, like, go completely, of course, like, go down the leg, but, yeah, move along.
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No, I think that, like, give it
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to the scalp and the feet.
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The scalp massage the scalp and the feet. Yeah, the scalp. And actually sometimes, like a couple of times, weirdly, I've actually gotten a massage and I've only asked for scalp and feet because I have a spray tan. Like, I remember I was on vacation once, like, at a wedding weekend, and I, like, had a spray tan for all the festivities, but this hotel had an amazing spot, so I literally went and I paid for a full massage, and I was like, just up my scalp and my feet. And honestly, it was one of the best massages I've ever had.
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I should try that.
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Yeah, you should. I also don't love being on my stomach portion of the massage. I always, like, turn around with a stuffy nose.
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I don't like the flip. Like, I don't care which side I'm on.
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The flip is deeply humiliating.
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And it's like, that's. I was just getting in the zone.
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Actually. I didn't love get. I used. I got a bunch When I was pregnant of prenatal massages. Being on your side during a massage just, like, kind of nice. You. They can't, like, get, like, the full body.
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They give you the pillow, but I don't think they just, like, give out the pillow some.
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I remember a couple of places who, like, took their prenatal massages really seriously and, like, they had all the proper. I actually went to a place with
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a hole in the belly. Me too.
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Was the St. Regis Bell harbor with a hole in the. So you could be on your stomach. And let me tell you, I think I was actually moaning at certain points. It was amazing.
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That's beautiful.
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It was beautiful. Today's Friday. We've got lots of stories. We have Queenie, and we're gonna attempt
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to do Queenie and Weenie.
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We're gonna attempt.
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We actually have a lot of stories. Stories. I haven't, like, whittled them down yet. I just, like, clicked everything that I like. But I think we probably have, like, eight. Maybe I'll, like. Maybe I'll bop around.
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Bop to the top, girlfriend.
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I'm just gonna like everything that's, like, I need to know. Because I'm so sick of everyone being like, why didn't you talk about. Blah, blah, blah.
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I just feel like we talk about everything under the sun. Like, what could we have missed?
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I know, but there were so many stories.
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I love that. It's, like, so rare for a summer Friday.
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Yeah, it is great. So I'm excited.
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Let's be grateful.
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So, without further ado, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that yet it do need to know.
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Thank you, Sash. Tert. Our first story, we've gotten a trailer from Earl Meets World.
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We have Alex.
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Earl is ready to reveal her chaotic life on her Netflix reality show. She says filming season one was insane. So for the trailer, she's like sitting doing hair and makeup, saying, like, get ready with me while I'm narrating the trailer. Yeah. And it's clearly like for the trailer, which is cute. Get Ready with me while I tell you what I've been up to. She said filming season one of Earl Meets Earl was insane.
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Earl meets Earl.
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What'd I say?
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Earl meets world.
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But what did I meet Earl? Maybe she's meeting a long lost sister. So we are going to see lots about her blended family. The whole family is in the trailer, you know, balancing her career. They talk about Braxton.
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They do talk about Braxton.
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She accuses her family of being team Braxton.
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I mean, he's a good guy. Like, I could see them actually liking him, and they all got really close to him. I feel, like, annoyed that, like, I think a lot of people of hype and anticipation for her show is almost, like, boiled down to this Alex Cooper thing. Like, my first thought was they didn't mention Alex Cooper in the trailer, and
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I'm sure she doesn't want to. At the end of the trailer, she was like, oh, is there something I'm forgetting? Like, something like that, like, alluding to, like, a big thing. So I feel like that's that. Now we know she is referenced. Like, it is gonna be in the show. It is. She's not. She didn't give us anything. We got a point out.
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She wants to make, like, the big trailer about Alex, but.
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Right.
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It's, like, annoying that it's just sort of boiled down to this. She sort of put a lot of pressure on it. She has.
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But I feel like she feels confident in her side. In her side and also, like, in her show.
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Yeah, I agree. I mean, it looks so good. Her family is inherently so interesting. And I'm someone who, like, knew a decent amount about, like, the background and the blended family, but I didn't realize it. Even more, like, I didn't realize that the mom. That guy Todd is her mom's, like, boyfriend or husband. He's so hot, and he's on the show, too, and he's, like, a star.
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Yeah. I'm not really, like, watching for Todd.
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I kind of am. That's what I'm saying. Like, because to me, like, the hero of this whole family in the glue is the mom. Like, her willingness to. To, like, put the kids first. Like, she's such a queen. She'll be rewarded in the afterlife for her time here on Earth. But it's nice to know, like, she was a hot man, too. Like, I didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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So it's easy to move on when, like, that's what your man looks like.
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It'll be interesting because I do feel like as reality TV consumers, all of us, like, we have a high bar for, like, family shows, you know?
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We do. Netflix doesn't have a lot of family shows.
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And, like, a lot of family shows get started and they don't reach success.
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Even families who, like, have the makings. A lot of families, like, we should have a reality show, but, like, a lot of them should. Like, they have interesting people with interesting boys, friends, and interesting lives and careers. But a lot of times, I don't know why it's not a perfect formula. It's actually very hard to recreate. The Kardashians, like, did set an incredibly high standard. So these. This group, like, they have what it takes. They have all the makings of it all. They're gorgeous. They've got drama, they've got history. So it should be good.
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Yeah.
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Like, period. It should be good, period. Although Netflix Reality is, like, not. I don't know why, like, they don't slay. They do, like, those competition shows that people like, but they don't do, like, a lot of docu series. A lot of his, like, stage, like, Shaws of Suns selling Sunset, you know.
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Yeah. But not that they can't, like.
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No, not that they can't.
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So I think they'd make everything, like, really premium. I'm not worried. The premiere date is September 4th. I think that's what it's. I said not too far, you know, so close. Just like, a couple more weeks into Swirly Summer, and then we'll have, like, all of Labor Day weekend to watch, and then we can recap.
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Yeah. I wonder how it's being released. Like, maybe, like, three at a time.
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I feel like it will be episodic.
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That's so annoying.
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Yeah. And it won't be Cooper in the first, so.
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Well, they know that they have this thing. I know that, like, everyone's really tuning in to find out, even though I do feel it's been diffused. Like, I don't this. I was the lead reporter on it, and, like, I kind of don't care anymore, but I would like to hear what she has to say.
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Yeah. So that, like, everyone will watch.
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Yes.
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Which is good, because sometimes you make a really good show. But, like, if people don't watch, then no one will ever know. So this way, if it's good, everyone to watch. That's good.
A
Yeah, we'll see. I think it'll be great. And the trailer has been very well received online.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Exciting.
A
Yeah.
B
Our next story, some more viral news. Bethenny Frankel is launching Supermodel Cafe inspired by her viral social media recipes.
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So Bethany, like, she just like, makes like some. An influencer. Launching a brand, like, would not make the news. People are upset, both positive and negative. She's so polarizing. Like, I saw this everywhere and it's like, not that crazy.
B
She's not even launching a brand. She's opening a pop up in the Hamptons. It's a supermodel cafe, as it's called, filled with like, her viral recipes. You know, she's always making like, bits and bobs.
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She calls it a supermodel snack. Like, here's how she like, everything is
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like, oh, gee, cottage cheese and rice cakes and everything. But the bagel seasoning.
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She is og like ozempic diet girly, you know, using lettuce as bread and cream cheese as salad dressing. Like, so, yeah, she. If anyone can do it, it's her.
B
Yes. It's also powered by Goldberg's.
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Yes. Which is a local chain of bagel places here in the Hamptons.
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So it's not like she had to like, get a kitchen and everything. Like, she's giving them her recipes. They're getting up and running. It's really brilliant. She's obviously like a fixture in the
A
Hamptons and also in the natural food space.
B
And the natural food space. In the food space, like even like the chicken salad and in the Hamptons food.
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She made so many things, like, so viral.
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So like, this is so duh.
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Yeah. I don't think it's like a huge money maker for her, like a pop.
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No, but it's like a great thing for her brand and like, say it does well, which I expect that it will. She can pop up elsewhere. This is something she could do for like a long time in terms of like, let's pop up in la, let's pop up in Miami. Yeah.
A
I do feel like confused what is her status with the Skinny Girl brand? Like, because she's like sold the liquor portion.
B
Skinny Girl Cafe.
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Right. They. She sold the liquor portion. So she has nothing to do with that anymore. But like, we eat their popcorn. It's so good. I believe the food, the salad dressing, she's like promoting it a lot. She is still somewhat involved and I know she has a lot of, I think like non competes, which is why she hasn't done anything in the food space since then. So I'm curious how this.
B
No. And also, if she was very much involved in Skinny Girl, then this would be Skinny Girl Cafe and these would be Skinny Girl snacks.
A
What is the remainder of her Relationship with Skinny Girl.
B
No, no. I. I don't know. But, like, if you think about it, when she was like, I'm gonna brand my. Of course, this segment.
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She's starting a new thing.
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She started a new name for talking about diet food when she. Yes. Supermodel Snack, which is great. Skinny Girl is also a great name. But she consciously did not call them Skinny Girl snacks.
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No, I know. Well, I don't think she can.
B
Or she wants to create equity in a new brand.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Which is so Bethany. Creating equity.
B
Yeah. Which is smart.
A
Yeah.
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She already sold her equity. Like, the equity for her and Skinny Girl is out the door, so you don't need to build it up really more.
A
Continue. Yeah. Should we go?
B
Of course.
A
Where is it?
B
Quag.
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Okay, let's go.
B
We'll go. And, like, can we cut the line?
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Yeah. Is her, like, an influencer? Special line.
B
The line.
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Special line for influencers.
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It's there and there's gonna be a special live.
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I'm so glad. I saw there was an article in the cut about this, like, about how everything in New York is a line. And it's just like, it's not even for something crazy. Like, it's just for, like, a pancake or a bagel. I am allergic to standing in line. Like, you could tell me that there's a winning lottery ticket. I just have to wait in line of, like, 20 people. Well, I'll just have to keep working. Like, I am allergic to lines. I hate fucking standing in line. I also think there's something deeply humiliating about standing in a line. And I think, like, what it says about you is negative. Like, I just. I hate lines. And we need to have, like, a. A conversation about line culture in New York. It's in. There's a line on. And it used to be, like, you would see people lining up and you'd be like, oh, I wonder what this is for. It was always something, like, big. Now I'm like, oh, you're all idiots. I don't even care. It used to be just like, the iPhone. That's what people would line up for.
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And I thought the pronut. Right.
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It was like a once in a lifetime big thing. Now it's every day like some viral.
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I guess it's because of, like, the viralness. So it's like there's a surge in demand on the same day because it went viral and that's the Internet. It's not like, really. It's born of the Internet.
A
Yeah. It's one of my least favorite things about living in New York. Honestly, I can't take it. I cannot take it. And I won't participate in line culture either.
B
Okay, so we'll cut the line or I'll go stand for you and I'll let you back.
A
Yeah, just let me know where the influencer line is or if there's, like,
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friends and family and influencer taste.
A
Yeah. Like, what about, like, podcast? Bethany has been online.
B
Yeah.
A
You have one of those.
B
Of course we're going. I'm so excited.
A
Road trip.
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I've, like, whenever. Whenever she.
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Well, I just want to say almost all the she eats is inedible to me. Like, I'm. You guys know how for you. Ugh. Like, her wraps of, like, turkey and chicken salad. Like, I could throw up.
B
Yeah. I always see her snacks. I'm like, oh, that looks really good. I want to try that. I don't eat, like, turkey or chicken, but I want to try some, like, you know, cottage cheese on a rice cake. Ben should come too. He would love it.
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Absolutely. We're vlogging.
B
And Olivia.
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Oh, we should wait for Olivia to get here. She actually, she is the same, like, category of eater as Bethany.
B
Like, put it on a rice cake, make sure it has Greek yogurt and cottage cheese and sesame seeds, and make
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sure it tastes disgusting, and we'll give you diarrhea.
B
Like, we'll all go together.
A
That's actually a really fun afternoon vlog.
B
Yeah.
A
Love that.
B
No, I think it's really smart. I'm. I'm excited for her.
A
Yeah. I wonder if it's successful if she has plans to, like, go into, like, a line for, like, the grocery store. Because she said, I think she's selling, like, healthy bagels, which is a pretty good category. Like, not there. There are a couple. I used to eat them when I was, like, really nutty. The better bagel, I think was.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, they're actually pretty good, so that would be good. And then, like, spreads. They look like pre made. They could sell my grocery stores.
B
Yeah. Which is crazy because that's skinny girl. And then she just did it again.
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Then she did it again. Yeah. Well, it is what she's passionate about. Like, being skinny.
B
It's a good fashion. Yeah.
A
Of course. Worthwhile being skinny.
B
And also, like, eating as much as you can while being skinny.
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Yes. Some people, it can be skinny without
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eating without thinking about it.
A
Yeah. Like, eating is just a means to live. It's not something. And then some people, like, just love food. And Bethany is one of those people who, like, loves food. But also loves being skinny and like she needs to hold space for both. Yeah.
B
So that's exciting.
A
It is.
B
Our next story. Taylor no longer picks Clark.
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Oh my God. This is actual like to me the way people were shocked. Well, not people like the delusionals about Nickelander. Like this is that. That's surprising to me.
B
Taylor and Clark from Love Island USA last season have made the quote, difficult decision to part ways amid cheating rumors. That's very much unfounded. But like he was spotted with like another girl a couple weeks ago, but they could have been broken up a couple weeks ago. Plus she went on her girls trip. That's giving breaking breakup is.
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I think that also a storyline on beyond the Villa is that they were having issues just because Taylor was like true to himself. He is a farm country boy. He does not want to change his lifestyle. He wants to continue to be a farmer and a cowboy. And Clark is like, you know, gotten a taste for that. She wants to go to LA and like do brand deals. So they just have like different visions for the future and that will. That's actually a very good reason to break up.
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It is, but that makes me sad that like she's choosing LA over Taylor. But you know what? I also feel like there's much more to it and if there was infidelity or a lack of trust. Yeah, then you've got to go.
A
The timing is curious because for those who don't know, like Taylor and Clark, this random couple from Love island last season are actually inextricably linked to. Oh, Landry. Orlandry and Taylor were together the whole season. Even though, like we knew he didn't like her. He found someone at casa he really liked. He became like the total villain for leaving Alandria. But he him and this girl Clark were like so in love and they've been together ever since in a real way.
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Not if you watch this season. It's Casey and Titi.
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Exactly.
B
And then Anaya and Car would be the Nicholandria.
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And so I'm actually shocked that they broke up. But the timing is very weird because
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of Nicholandria the same week. Or that just speaks to like when Nicholandria ran the numbers of when a couple from Love island should break up stats, they learned that it is about a year later. Also, Taylor and Clark might have already been broken up and people close to them might have already known that before they decided. But Alandria deciding to sever business ties
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before Nicholas decided to sunset. I was. I just want to say I'm like, upset by this. I. I actually believed in their love.
B
Of course. And you can believe in their love. Couples break up. They're very young.
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No, breaking up doesn't mean it was a fake relationship for Nickelandra Incorporated.
B
It did.
A
No, but these two were real.
B
The breaking up of Nicholandria is. Doesn't mean that it was a fake relationship. It just was a fake relationship.
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Oh, my God. I know you don't know because, like, you're not chronically online, but, like, I wish I could tell you, like, how bent out of shape people are about. It started, like, tension is, like. Like, are you guys gonna speak out? Like, are you gonna talk about, like, the hate your. Like, the. The backlash? Like, are you gonna apologize?
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I've. I've seen a couple comments on my Instagram from clearly, like, nickelandreous, who trickled in, who have migrated over to Instagram and, like, sought me out.
A
Yeah.
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And they're being very unkind. They're being very unkind.
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I know. And, like, their biggest accusation, they're calling us racist. Which, like, it's just not. Like, it's not that. It's actually. It's actually offensive to actual racism to say that it's true. It is. Like, it's also.
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It's frustrating because they think that we're hating on Alandra when, like, they don't know you haven't been here. And I hate to be, like, you know, context, but, like, you have historically, like, you have to listen to everything that we have said about her, including our, like, live recaps last season. Because we don't hate Alandria, and we never did.
A
No, we always wanted better for her than Taylor then Nick. What are you guys talking about? Like, yeah, and she literally admitted herself on the show that, like, there isn't a connection between her and Nick. And they, as a of, you know, two seconds before their breakup, they weren't even technically boyfriend and girlfriend. Like, like, genuinely. And I'm not trying to, like, make you guys more angry to our, like, Nicola Andrew haters, but how genuinely not smart are you? Like, you're dumb.
B
Well, if you fell for Nickel Andrea,
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then that's what I'm saying. But, like, now you're coming for us when, like, you know, you got got. You got hoodwinked and you should just, like, kind of sunset that.
B
But what's crazy is both those people and us are coming from a place of love for Landry. We're showing it in different ways. And, like, I think we love her more because we want better.
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For her.
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And we've always wanted better for her.
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The denial phase moved on to, like, yeah, whatever the 1112 steps are, they're still in denial. Next comes anger.
B
No, but, like, if you really loved Alandria, like, you wouldn't want Nickelandria for her. You wouldn't want Nick for her. And, like, I think we love her more actually than you. I would say you don't like her.
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We absolutely love Alandria more than our detractors do. Now put that in a clip and post it.
B
Like it's called. It's tough love. I would give tough love to, like, a person that I'm close to and that I love. I wouldn't be like, oh, yeah, your. Your terrible boyfriend is great.
A
Do you like that? Because you've been commenting that I keep saying, saying, put that in your pipe and smoke it. What about put that in your clip and post it?
B
For sure. But, like, we do that. Like, you're talking to us.
A
I guess I've technically talked to the social media team. Like, put that in your clip and post it.
B
If we want to go back there.
A
If we want to go back there.
B
Let's see what else big if. What other conversations emerge today. Oh, our next story is some exciting news. It's our fourth story, but we're gonna do six stories today. Yeah, I. I just, like, don't want to get Gets stopped in the middle of our.
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Of our role.
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Major podcasting news. Forbes released the highest paid podcasters of 2026.
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And I will say I felt that the list was only interesting because it's the same group of people always, but giggly squad, like, cracking the top 20. I feel like that's the big change. They're sort of like coming up from behind and slaying.
B
Yeah. So here's the top 20. Like, most of these seem pretty obvious. It's crazy that some of these people. I've never heard of their show.
A
Also, what's crazy is that, like, I feel like we talk about it here all the time. Like, we're always talking about, like, the biggest female podcaster. We're always talking about who and justice for Ashley Flowers. Because nobody ever says it's her, but, like, it's. It's her by a mile.
B
Ashley Flowers moves in silence. She does.
A
She's actually smart.
B
Yeah.
A
She's not gonna get robbed.
B
Well, after this list.
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Yeah.
B
Joe Rogan is number one. $82 million and this is earned this year. So even if he had a hundred, like, well, at this point, It'd be a 200 million dollar deal for three years or whatever. Like $82 million this year. John Coogan and Jordy Hayes host a podcast called tpbn. It's a finance podcast. I guess. I've never heard of it.
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What does TPBN stand for?
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I don't know.
A
I mean, that's crazy.
B
There's number two at 70 million TPBN.
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Oh, my God, like, what are the odds that I haven't heard of something like.
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I know.
A
I think that's crazy.
B
Another two moving in silence.
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Totally.
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Did you find it? Technology, business programming, network generally.
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Who's listening to this?
B
That sounds fake.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. Number three.
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Yeah.
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Stephen Bartlett, Diary of a CEO Classic at 45 million. Number four, Ashley Flowers, Crime Junkie. 42 million.
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First woman.
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Number five. The Smartest Guys. 37 million. You have to divide that by. By three. Then like, per. Like, their show earned $37 million this year. They each took home a third of that.
A
I'm so glad we never invited Olivia. Margaret, start the show with us. Like, three is so many people. I already have a hard time, like, with you, you know.
B
I know. I'm like, every day.
A
I often think about, I'm like, what if I just did the show by myself? Like, how could I change my lifestyle?
B
Yeah. Every night in the same house, sleeping with one eye open. And then you'd have to do stories and ads.
A
It's. Oh, my God, so true. We both earn our key.
B
Number six, Mel Robbins, 35 million. What?
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People are not gonna like what I'm about to say, but that's the grift of the century. Like, she literally came out of nowhere. She does like, fake self help. And like, I actually, I mean, it's not a grift because the thing with podcasts is like, you earn what you generate. So it's like that many people are listening to your show. You can't get these numbers without real listeners. So like, yeah, I guess people are listening to Mel Robbins.
B
Yeah. Maybe she's got some.
A
One of the six women on the list.
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Classic cloud. Maybe she's like, got something going over there. Like, people just like, you know, think she. All she is is like the let them theory or whatever. But, like, maybe she's giving good advice over there because you really don't stay at the top. You can like, grift your way to a certain degree with a launch, with a book, with some good guests, and then maybe like a network thinks is buying all that smoke and mirrors and like, pays you a lot of money. But like, this is Years long. Now. I think she's the real deal that got the cream.
A
You're right.
B
Number seven. The Kelsey brothers. $35 million.
A
Not surprising.
B
Another two that have to split.
A
Only two?
B
Only two.
A
And I think that if they were doing it solo, like, it wouldn't be that big. You know, I think that's true of a lot of duos.
B
You think it's true of us?
A
Absolutely.
B
I think so, too.
A
It's Yin and Yang, 1,000%.
B
Number eight, Alex Cooper, 32 million. Famously does not have to split.
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No, she sort of solved that problem a few years ago.
B
Number nine. We know Alex Cooper has a huge deal.
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She's always on these lists.
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She's always on these lists. She had the, like, $150 million serious deal. So this is like her year, her annual split, her paycheck. Number nine, they're splitting it four ways. Pods Save America, $28 million.
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Four.
B
28 divided by four.
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Seven. Yes. Right. Yes.
B
Yeah.
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Poor. No kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's great. Congrats. I feel like there was a time and a place and also is pod.
B
Save America.
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No politics.
B
But it's not New York Times. That's the Daily.
A
No, but there was a time where they were like, this is not one of their big years. There was a time where, like, people were obsessed with the show, where maybe if the list had come out, they would have been number one or two or three. So it's impressive. They've been there for a while.
B
Number 10. Charlemagne. At 27 million.
A
Is that the Breakfast Club?
B
The Breakfast Club, but it's just Charlemagne. So.
A
Because he does, like, multiple shows and he doesn't own the Breakfast Club. That's like a iheartradio.
B
Like it is.
A
But he also has his own program, so maybe it's just like, him in
B
general, but maybe I Heart Radio, like, pretty upped his contract to the tune of 27 million a year.
A
Solo.
B
Number 11. Dax Shepard, armchair expert. 25 million.
A
Of course.
B
12. Amy Poehler, 24 million.
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Slay. Honestly, not her and her ex husband being on the list.
B
Yeah, that's crazy.
A
And she makes more than him because she's solo.
B
True. 13. Bill Simmons, 22 million. Classic. 14. Jay Shetty, 21 million.
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He recently, like, got a big deal. Been like a big podcaster, but he recently, like, leveled up.
B
Like, well, he got, like a hundred million dollar deal. I saw Netflix and he's on Netflix now and Spotify.
A
Yeah.
B
So he has, like, two.
A
And he's, like, getting insane guests, too.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, he woke up and decided, like, we're taking it to the next level. And he did.
B
Yeah. And the next level was, like, coming through.
A
Yeah. It was like, nine figures.
B
Yeah. Fifteen. Joe Budden. The Joe Budden podcast. Twenty million.
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I've never, like, seen Joe Budden's face, but, like, I know obviously his name, because every time I see it, I think people are misspelling Joe Biden.
B
And, you know, he's huge in podcasting. Like a trailblazer.
A
Yeah.
B
And you love to see people who have been doing. You love to see the newcomers, but you love to see the people who have been doing it for so long, like, still at the top.
A
Being in, like, the same top 20, whether you're like, number one or number 10, is beyond impressive.
B
Yeah. 16. Tucker Carlson. $20 million. 17. Your boyfriend.
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My boyfriend. Wait, hold on. I don't think, as a podcast.
B
Scott Galloway. 19 million.
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My toxic trade is I love Scott Galloway.
B
That's so funny.
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I know.
B
18. My boyfriend.
A
But let me think. Harry Jowsey's back.
B
He's on the list.
A
Yeah.
B
Andrew Huberman.
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Oh. You know, he's also been. He definitely fell off a little bit, like, with that scandal. And, like, I think that his sort of extreme, like, wellnessy was like, a very much like a moment in time, but he's still on the list. That's really impressive.
B
$18 million. He should be Kim's boyfriend.
A
Do you see Brian Johnson, the longevity king, is, like, sort of backtracking his lifestyle choices. He said. I fear. I've been thinking recently that I might have taken this too far.
B
Interesting. I also saw was he. Did he get sick?
A
He got sick or something.
B
Yeah.
A
So that's not good.
B
That's really sad. 19. Oh. Dan Katz and Eric Sollenberger. Pardon my take. Barstool. $18 million.
A
Oh, wow. Barstool.
B
Yeah.
A
That's pretty cool.
B
Yeah. And then 20. Hannah and Paige. Giggly Squad. $18 million.
A
It's actually insane that there's only six women on the list and there are two of them. They' of 33% of the women. Like, that's sick.
B
That is crazy. But do you think more men listen to podcasts in general than women?
A
That's a good question.
B
I don't know.
A
I don't think so, because I think that there are actually more female podcasters.
B
You think? No, I feel like it really, like, started as more of, like, a. A man space, but there's. There's women.
A
Well, it's very impressive because, like I said, it's the same 20 people usually. And Ghibli squad cracking is like, major, major for the. It's because you know what, you love to see a swirly show in the mix. Swirling it up.
B
You do, you really do.
A
I love lists.
B
Exciting for the industry. There's a lot of money, like, floating around.
A
Is there anyone who you feel is noticeably absent from the list?
B
I love that question. Let's go.
A
Not to, like, point out, let's go
B
to the top charts, but it's also worth mentioning that you would have had to submit your financials, which a lot
A
of people don't want to, in order
B
to, like, be a contender.
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Although I think with some people, like Joe Rogan, I can't see him having agreed to submit anything.
B
No, but, like, it's known that his deal was what it was.
A
Right. But, like, I think you have to submit a tax return. I think.
B
Or no, I don't think so. I think if, like, they knew that Joe Rogan got $150 million deal, then it's $50 million this year. Right?
A
Right.
B
It is what it is. Anyone went missing.
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I feel like it felt accurate.
B
Theo Vaughan.
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Oh, yeah.
B
People were saying, like, Conan. I don't think he was, like, snubbed or anything. I. I think he.
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And I just don't think he made it.
B
This generates.
A
I don't think he's far down.
B
I don't think he generated more than $18 million.
A
But Theo Vaughn is a very good call.
B
And then, like, what about the Daily. How does that work? Because they're, like, employees.
A
Because they're a media company and they're
B
employees of the New York Times.
A
So, yeah, the show isn't like, any. And. And also, they base these numbers based on deals. Like, we know that new heights went to prime for X amount. New York Times sells their own ad. So, like, they don't get these types of deals because it's all done in house. If I had to guess.
B
Right. No, I agree with that.
A
If I had to guess.
B
No, I'm looking at the tops. And, like, it does seem pretty morbid. What about morbid?
A
Yeah, I get them confused with crime.
B
I know. Maybe they only, like, wanted to put one crime. But, like, money is money. Like, if you made much money, it's.
A
It's a maritime. This list is a meritocracy.
B
It is. But no. Exciting, exciting stuff.
A
Yes, it is.
B
Are you ready for our fifth and not final story?
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I don't own a different sort of mayo. Like it's mayo with avocado oil. It's not yuck. It's so good. It's so premium and I feel so good giving it to the kids. Of course, like ketchup, there's a sweetened with honey love.
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Yeah, ketchup. When you, when you have kids, you realize like how crazy ketchup is, not the Primal Kitchen one. So find Primal Kitchen dressing, sauces and condiments at your local grocery store and primalkitchen.com Primal Kitchen it's made for real food. Today's episode is also brought to you by Outshine, a refreshing snack almost all about. Shine bars are under 100 calories. You probably recognize the box. They're one of the most popular frozen trails treats for swirly summer and just summers in general. They are made with real simple ingredients like real fruit and fruit juice. They help you snack brighter because Outshine believes when you snack good, you feel good. So they offer a wide variety of fruit bars and tons of crave worthy flavors. It's like a childhood staple that gets even better as you grow up because now you can, like, make them into mocktails. I don't know if you saw like. So they're always like, outtime bars going viral, like, different ways to, like, eat and drink them. And right now people are obsessed with making mocktails. So obviously it's delicious just, you know, eating the pop right out of the freezer. But it's also a really fun way to elevate your favorite beverage. You can try adding your favorite outshine bar to a sparkling water, a mocktail, or another refreshing drink for a super easy boost of flavor. It's a simple way to add a fruity, refreshing twist and just make your everyday drink feel a little bit more special. Great for summer gatherings, pool days, brunches, or anytime you're looking for a fun, refreshing treat. So they're also offering a sweepstakes right now, so be sure to check out their Instagram at Outshine Snacks for mocktail inspiration. You must be 18 years or older and a legal resident of the United States States. They're running a sweepstakes all about mocktail pairings now through September 20th. No purchase necessary to enter or win. Visit the Outshine Instagram page at Outshine Snacks for the official rules and enter for a chance to win the grand prize for you and your bff. The odds of winning depend on the number of eligible entries. And if you just want an outshine fruit bar because you're feeling swirly, head to your local retailer. They're available in freezer aisle at retailers nationwide. It's Outshine fruit bars. And if you're new to outshine, get the mini fruit pops. You get like, a bunch of different flavors in one box and you can find your favorite, just like Life pack from Turdi.
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Thank you, Turdi.
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You're welcome.
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Our next story, Juliana Rancic details her humiliating moment of relationship with Xjeri o'. Connell.
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Oh, wow. We're closing the circle on this.
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The Bill and Juliana podcast dropped, and she is sharing her side of their relationship that he mentioned on Ripa. She said that she would be on her podcast unfuzzing his memory because he said his memory was a little fuzzy on the situation. And she talks about how he broke up with her from a balcony. So first she was saying that she was Jerry OConnell. He, like, went off to shoot a movie, and he was, like, spotted with his co star Jerry from the Spice Girls, like, walking out of a restaurant, Jerry holding hands.
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Jerry's always starting stuff. Don't you find? She literally is the reason they broke up.
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And I love that Juliana named names. Yeah, me too. Even though it's like, it was so low stakes. Like, it does. It's 20 plus years ago.
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But if you're going to tell us a story, like, tell us the story.
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Yeah.
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We need to name the characters.
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But it's not like she went like. It's not like it was Jennifer Lopez. And, like, now Juliana is, like, putting her on notice, like, low stakes. Agreed. She said she had called. She said she texted.
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What did she say?
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She called Jerry, and he wasn't picking up her calls. He was, like, ghosting her. And she said, jerry, I'm going to call the police. Like, I'm really worried about you. And he wrote back, do not call the police. He goes, I just got back to la. I'm at my condominium. He goes, I'm fine. I'm fine. So I was like, oh, my God. Okay. I. I write, I'm coming over. Like, I haven't seen you in, like, five days. What's going on? So I go over there, and that's where this whole thing happened. He said that she was. She said he was standing on his balcony looking at her, saying he didn't want to see me in person. He didn't have enough courage to come down and see me face to face, like a foot away. And instead did it from a balcony. He broke up with me from a balcony. And I honestly thought it was because he was just, like, over it. Done. He was just like, bye. It was devastating, heartbreaking, humiliating. It was traumatizing. It truly was. And I just could not believe what I was hearing. They had been together for a year and a half.
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Oh, my God. Well, obviously, Jerry was inside.
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Yeah.
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Oh, we think Jerry and Jerry. I'm just putting that together.
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Jerry and Jerry.
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Yeah. You don't let someone in, but you're talking to them through the.
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Like, even if you want to break up or someone.
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Even if you wanted to break up with her in, like, a rude and short way, like, you could let her
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up, like there was someone there.
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Obviously, this story is very inconvenient for me because it's in Congress with the Jerry that I know as, like, the Bravo loving dad.
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Yes. But I feel like, like, people grow. People grow. And I don't know if he's, like. I could see part of his shtick as having been, like, a recovered. A hole. Someone who, like, got caught up in Hollywood for a minute.
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Yeah.
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And then became, like, humbled and. And lovely, even, like, not in Hollywood.
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I think a lot of, like, grown Men would say, like, they didn't act their best in certain relationships in their 20s. I'm, like, not gonna hold it against Jerry. If I didn't like Jerry, I would hold it against him. But like I said, the same is just extremely inconvenient for me as, like, a Jerry O' Connell fan.
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No. And also, like, behavior from 20 plus years ago. And she said, like, you know, obviously it was for the best tone.
A
Like, is she mad?
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No. I feel like she just, like, felt like this is very real for her.
A
Yeah.
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This happened. If you're going to talk about it, like, don't skim the surface, because this is the truth.
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I guess he did bring it up.
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Yeah. She said a year and a half. I do love that Jerry is an open book, even if his memory is a little fuzzy. I truly believe everything happens for a reason. We are both happily married now. We both have great families, and we are both exactly where we're meant to be. So, like, true. That can be completely true. I don't think she's coming from a place of malice, but it's like, oh, no, we're bringing this up. Let's. Let's.
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Yeah. And I tell the whole truth normally say, like, get over it, Juliana. Like, it was 20 years ago. But he did bring it up.
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I don't think. She's not, like, I feel like she. No.
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Sometimes it's, like, hard to find fodder for your podcast.
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No. I feel like if someone was talking about you, you have a podcast, they're telling a story. They're sort of contradicting what you've said historically, like, yeah, clear the air.
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Yeah. Think about, like, what we would do.
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Of course. I would sit down and I would
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just tell my truth.
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Let it rip.
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Yeah, let it rip.
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Are you ready for now?
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Thank you for closing the loop on that.
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Yes, of course. I completely forgotten because I saw clips of it, and then I was like, oh, okay.
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Yeah, here we go.
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Yeah. Our next story.
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I don't know if it's a story, but you see, Uber, this is actually like, really huge news for slobs like me. Uber is being sued. Do you know that? It's actually devastating. You know when you get Uber eats and, like, you do priority because you don't want your food dropped off before, like, you're. You are paying for nothing. The driver, like, doesn't know that you have priority. Sometimes Uber will tell them, like, other orders to pick up before coming to you, and they're actually being sued for not being, like, for false advertising.
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Good.
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And, like, stealing people's money.
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Good.
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I have never, maybe twice in my life have I done not priority.
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Of course.
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And those two times were, like, the biggest regrets of my life, so. But apparently it's like, it's literally for nothing. Oh, yeah.
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Well, good then.
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Yeah. I'll keep you updated on that legal news.
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Please do.
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Because that's so giving, like, fifth and final Friday story.
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No, no, no. And this is, like, sixth and final, but it was about the fact that LeBron James is, like, in a deal with ESPN. They're about to close on doing, like, a Last Dance style documentary for his, like, next season or two seasons at the 76ers.
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Yes. So I heard about this, and I'm so glad you brought up LeBron, because I wanted to say one other thing. Did you also see that during his tenure on the Philadelphia 76ers, he will be living in New York and commuting via helicopter?
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I saw that. That is a potentially. Yes.
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So I think that's insane, obviously, for a couple of reasons. Like, I'm sorry, when you are, like, playing for a team, like, you have to live there. Like, I just feel like that should be the rules. Two, with this new Petit Terror Tax, I don't know why LeBron would now want to purchase a place in New York City. Like, that's insane. A second home.
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Well, it would be his first if he's living there.
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No, I feel like his, like. Like Akron is his home. You know, like, that's his primary residence. And two, the helicopter.
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Yeah.
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Every day or like, I feel like, certain things. Things. Even though I don't believe that helicopters are unsafe. Like, we know that with Kobe, like, it was bad weather and they flew through it and they shouldn't have. But I just feel that now everyone thinks about helicopters just a little bit differently.
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Yeah.
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Because of that situation. And so for you to, like, literally be doing what Kobe was doing, and now you're gonna be, like, doing it every single day.
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Like the Over Reliance.
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Yeah. That's really crazy. Like, all that just to not live in Philly. Yeah, Philly's a fine place.
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There's plenty of. And, like, there's different vibes, you know, like, you live in the city, live
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in the subway room. You get a farm, like, 30 minutes away.
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You could go to farm Chimin.
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Yeah. Now back to the documentary thing. Don't you feel like. And yes. Like, the Last Dance, like, it needed to be recorded. But don't you feel like it's like, a little bit of a jinx? Oh. Like what if you have a flop season? Like, you know, Tom Brady's last or whatever?
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I think Aaron Rodgers, when he did his. Right.
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What if you tore your Achilles heel?
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Yeah. I guess it doesn't have to, like, come out, you know?
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I guess now it's, like, being reported.
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Yeah. I also feel like if I'm a Philly fan, I'm like, you're literally coming here to use us to talk about how big of losers we are and how you're going to say, you won't even live here. No, you won't live here. It's like someone like, I. I don't. It's kind of like when Elle and Alec does the. The documentary of the homecoming, and she's just like, look at these sad people. I'm gonna bring them joy. And it's like, yeah, we're fine.
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I think, though, like, if he does get them a championship, like, they won't really care.
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I agree.
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So if he doesn't, they'll feel used and abused, but if he does, it's like, okay, whatever. At least we got championship.
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Yeah.
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No, this whole thing is, like, a little.
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And, like, to come into, like, a new locker room with camera crew.
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No, but, like, you are LeBron. And I think, like, literally almost every player in that group who's actively playing, like, grew up and, like, and Charlie LeBron, it's like, sure, you want to be naked? Like, sure, we can take a shower.
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True. It's true.
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I actually don't think that they care. They're actually a part of history.
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Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.
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Yeah, I think it's a jinx because, like, I don't know. LeBron just did go to the Lakers and he stunk it up there, so it's not a guarantee that if you.
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He didn't get up. He won the championship for them in 2020. Yes. That was six years ago, per our fact checkers. No, he did, but he went. He got them a championship. In his time there. You don't win every year, even when you're the goat.
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Fine, Fine. That actually is fair. I just think it's, like, not guaranteed that. Like, I feel like for Tom Brady, like, it actually was guaranteed. Like, if I'm on your team, like, we're winning, like, it just kind of was. I feel like it's not the case for LeBron. So it's. It's like, I would say he's a 50, 50 shot.
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I think it's as much the case for LeBron going to the seven 86ers years. As it was for Tom going to the Buccaneers. Yes.
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But we have six. Literally six years since his last championship. Like that's a long time.
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I guess years older. Okay, I'm older.
A
No, I'm like very much sad for this NBA season.
B
Yeah, yeah. So we'll make me say it. You're not like other girls. You drink beer.
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Exactly. Let's dive into our final segment of the week, Queenie and Weenie.
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And.
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And we kind of like fumbled the last couple of weeks. We forgot to do it. So Queenie and Weenie is our final segment of the week where every Friday Jackie and I just like to take a look back at the week at a glance and deliver. Deliver two awards. Queenie of the week and Weenie of the Week. It's pretty self explanatory. If you did something Queenie like, you will be Queenie of the week. And if you were acting like a major weenie, you will be Weenie of the week. Don't get too upset. It's a seven day title and you know you can find yourself Queenie one week, weaning the next. So don't get too comfortable, sweetheart.
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Yeah.
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Now what do you want to start with? Queenie.
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Queenie. I'm gonna make my Queenie of the week. I think it's pretty obvious and I think she's like Queenie probably like two and a half weeks running given like the wedding and then the clapbacks. And that would be Paige Paul. Ne.
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Yeah, Paige Paul. Oh, nay, Lorenz. Absolutely. She was a contender for me as well. Like not every time. It's hard. It's actually very rare that somebody like speaks a lot and I'm always agreeing with them because, like, even if I like you, I think you're a little dumb. You know, she has just been like slaying every time she speaks even more. I agree with everything she's saying. That's my queen right there.
B
Yeah. And I think if we had done Queenie like last week when she got her wedding pics and like she's just having like a queenie like run. It's undeniable.
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I agree. She's on a queenie like run and
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it's a queenie like summer for her.
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Queenie of the Week. Paige Lorenz.
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Yeah. Unanimously, Unanimously. I agree.
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And then Weenie, of course, there were so many options, but I'm gonna give it.
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To Alandra.
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Yeah.
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She's brave.
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I know. Because the thing is that I was just saying like how much like I've written for and it's true. But when I thought about the dissolution of Nickelandria Incorporated, I really didn't ever see it going this way, where it was, like, low key. A bad reflection on Alandria. And that, I feel, is what happened. The Dumois comments did not help, and I just feel that she hasn't been putting her best foot forward this week.
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Yeah.
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And I feel like Alandra, maybe in the past, has actually even been Queenie. So, like, she will be Queenie again. Like a phoenix rising from the ashes. But, like, like, the behavior was a little weenie, like, this week.
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And for me would be the nickel Andrea, like, st. Of course, who are now, like, coming for me. And, like, just like, my.
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And like, our looks.
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And like, our looks.
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And it's like, are we that bad looking? Like, no. No.
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And also, like, I. We're off limits. Like, we just had babies.
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We're off limits.
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Like, when people, like, want to say something about my looks, I'm like, my looks are irrelevant.
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No, actually, my looks are insane positive, given the fact that I just literally just had a baby.
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No, like. But truly, like. Like, what do you mean? My looks, that's not even a thing right now. I don't have looks.
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But also, like, let's say things. Looks are a thing right now. Like, it is sort of a fact of life. Like, you and I are timeless beauties.
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Like, true.
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We would be beautiful in any generation. Like, we don't have plastic surgery. Face, like, we have beautiful smiles. We have real faces. Like, we are factually timeless. Great. Beautiful. So, yeah, of course. I'm like, yeah, of course. Feel free to call me fat. Like, it's a temporary phase. Like, I'm fine with that. But you cannot deny, like, the true beauty, like, the essence of us is beautiful.
B
I agree. Also, like, they're only seeing clips from, like, this studio, and I just feel
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like the lighting, like, it's not doing a hundred percent. Like, our right. Yeah.
B
So, like, they just don't know all the truth. Like, they don't know that I've just had my third child in four years.
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Like, because you don't know that makes you a weenie.
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Yeah. Because you're not animal.
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So thank you guys so much for an amazing week. And thank you so much for listening to the toast and Monday morning show
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with Queenies are the Butterflies as well.
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Of course, every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe. Oh, emoji.
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I've been loving Butterfly, of course, where
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we listen podcast Vanessa Toastly 5 star via Beautiful setting a weekly town to be our hope. You guys have an amazing day and we'll see you on Monday. Have a great weekend.
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Love ya. Bye.
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry | Date: July 31, 2026 | Podcast: The Toast (Dear Media)
This vibrant Friday episode of The Toast with Jackie and Claudia Oshry covers everything from spiritual butterfly releases and pop culture news (including Earle Meets Earle on Netflix and Bethenny Frankel’s Supermodel Café) to trending stories in reality TV and the new Forbes list of highest-paid podcasters. With their trademark banter and plenty of digressions, the sisters deliver the Fast 5 stories of the week, address influencer “line culture,” and finish with their popular Queenie & Weenie segment — all peppered with candid, hilarious observations about life, beauty routines, and more.
Uber Eats Sued for “Priority” Fees ([51:07–51:47])
LeBron James’ New Deal & Documentary ([51:49–55:18])
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Description | |---|---|---| | 00:54 | Claudia | “Zach made a speech that like legit almost brought me to tears…like, wishing them luck on their journey and letting them know, like, this is always their home.” | | 04:39 | Jackie | “She needs, like…a true commoner with a very good job so that he’s not, like, threatened by her level of wealth.” (on Kelly Clarkson’s ideal partner) | | 06:02 | Claudia | “I know love Taylor Shrek. Like, I will. I will never see any fault in anything she did.” (on House of Sassy, biases) | | 09:50 | Jackie | “No pain, no gain. That’s…not true of a massage.” | | 18:51 | Jackie | “She said filming season one of Earle Meets Earle was insane.” | | 21:10 | Claudia | “Netflix Reality is, like, not…I don’t know why, like, they don’t slay…This group, like, they have what it takes. They have all the makings of it all.” | | 25:16 | Claudia | “I am allergic to standing in line…I hate fucking standing in line. I also think there’s something deeply humiliating about standing in a line.” | | 30:21 | Jackie | “I actually believed in their love.” (on Taylor & Clark) | | 40:12 | Claudia | “It’s actually insane that there’s only six women on the list and there are two of them [Giggly Squad]. They’re 33% of the women. Like, that’s sick.” | | 48:11 | Jackie (via Juliana Rancic) | “He didn’t have enough courage to come down and see me face to face…He broke up with me from a balcony.” | | 53:00 | Claudia | “All that just to not live in Philly?” (on LeBron’s commute) | | 56:07 | Jackie | “Paige Paul. Oh, nay, Lorenz. Absolutely [Queenie of the Week]…that’s my queen right there.” |
[55:31–58:50]
The episode delivers a swirl of lighthearted humor, candor, and heated opinions wrapped in playful, often self-deprecating sisterly banter. Short hot takes and asides provide the show’s unique flavor, making for an engaging listening or reading experience that feels both inside-jokey and broadly accessible.
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