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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Thursday. Thursday. Now, I'm feeling excited about my guest co host today. Obviously, she filled in for me when I was on leave and she's a mama herself, but I have real business to get down to with her. It's Lizard P. Woods, AKA Liz P. Woods, AKA Liz Height. Like, let's be real.
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B
Yeah. First Elasty, always.
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A
Now, Liz, I have to ask you a question.
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B
Oh.
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A
Do you feel awkward?
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B
I mean, you, like, run your mouth after you go on this podcast, like, to your sister about how much you hate doing co hosts, so.
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A
Oh, I'm cracking up.
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B
I'm not apprehensive about the toasters. Like, I think they love the toaster community, likes me. But you kind of, like, are scary.
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A
Oh, no, that's not what I was bringing up. We're so much fun. Okay, but we need to address the elephant in the room.
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B
What is it, Lizard?
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A
I asked you before, Jackie, I asked you during, what was it Harry or Charlie's maternity leave. You were, like, such a micro influencer. I said, lizard, would you like to come co host the toast with me? And she said, politely decline.
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B
Yeah, you wanted to support small creators.
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A
And then during my maternity leave, Jackie was like, I'm going to ask Liz. I'm like, well, good luck. She's not. She doesn't want to do podcasts. Next thing I know, you're on the toast filling in for me. Explain yourself.
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B
Well, not only that, but I actually reached out to Jackie, like, preemptively, when.
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A
You were out there.
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B
We were. Yeah, I wasn't ready.
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A
Okay.
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B
Yeah. And I'm ready. And I.
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A
More so it wasn't like you wanted to hang out with Jackie. Not me.
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B
Well, I also got the invite to, like, Jackie's house to go with her family and eat her cooking today.
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A
I made you commute.
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B
Yeah. Commute. Yeah. Which was funny. Well, I commuted to Florida and, like, I actually, I live in New Jersey, but it was. The whole experience was Party. Yeah.
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A
Okay. And so that's just. That's all you're going to say?
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B
Yeah. No comment.
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A
Okay. Welcome to the Jersey.
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B
Thanks for having me.
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A
Oh, so good to have a fellow pop culture lover. The Dash queen herself, Lizard P. Now, you probably are familiar with Lizard P after her stint on the Toast, but in Case anybody needs, like, a brief reminder.
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B
Yeah. Well, Jackie put it very eloquently when I was on with her. Not to trigger you, but she said I'm often, like, the story version of the toast. Like, I'm kind of the one who, like, puts forth the news, and then you guys offer your. More your commentary the following day. Yeah.
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A
Yes. And it's like, it's a little confusing because you, Jackie and I have a group chat that we talk in, like, probably 10 times a day. And so we, like, we form our thoughts together. We all generally, like, think the same things about pop culture. We'll say them on the toast, you'll say them on your story, and everyone will be like, you're copying Liz. And people are like, to Liz, you're copying the toast. But we actually just have, like, the same thoughts we do, which is so fun.
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B
Yeah. I think it's nice to, like, have a group of people that you mostly agree with on, especially pop culture, and especially when, like, it often seems like the rest of the Internet is disagreeing with you.
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A
But don't you also feel like sometimes it's me and you against Jackie?
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B
Yes. Do you think it's ever me and Jackie against you?
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A
Literally never.
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B
No, it's never.
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A
Because Jackie doesn't get us, like, as much as we're all the same. Jackie draws a line at TikTok, and Jackie's actually not chronically online, but you and I definitely are.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And so there's, like, a lot of things, like, she just doesn't get, which is why I'm excited for you to be here today.
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B
I'm so excited to be here and to, like, offer my. My clawed Liz?
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A
Yes. Yes. Do you feel like you're putting on different Personas when you host with Jackie and when you host with me?
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B
Yes. I mean, Jackie and I. I think even though you just said that it's often you and me against Jackie, I think Jackie and I similar personality wise.
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A
Yes.
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B
So I actually feel like I can mostly just be myself and that it'll be. I mean, I'm a reasonable facsimile for Jackie. I'm not Jackie.
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A
Okay. Facsimile.
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B
But I think, like, I think I offer a sort of similar energy that hopefully people will appreciate.
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A
But did you feel like when you were hosting with Jackie, not to keep comparing and I will stop at some point, I promise. Did you feel like when you were hosting with Jackie, like, you had to pull back a little bit of your chronic onlineness, like, a lot of stuff she might not understand?
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B
No. I did feel like I offered the. In that sense, I offered the perspective that you often do. Yes, you were.
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A
That's why you were a perfect fill in for me. Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Well, thank you.
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A
What app do you think spent the most time on? Because everybody knows you for your Instagram stories, I have to say, you are, without fail, the first story that pops up on my Instagram feed. And I would prefer it that way. That's how I get all my news. People are like, well, people get their news from the toast and I get my news from you. I love following you on Instagram. I so appreciate the hard work that you put into your stories. They make me laugh. I really find out a lot of breaking news from your stories. Do you spend the most time on Instagram but you also love TikTok?
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B
I do love TikTok. I spend the most time on Instagram. I have, like, all of my apps set so that I get notifications from, like, tmz, Daily Mail, so that I'm the one who's, like, breaking the news. But in terms of the app I spend the most time on, it's Instagram.
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A
I used to get all my news from the Daily Mail. Snapchat story. Do you remember those days? Yes, of course. The Discover page. Yes. And I feel like you have really replaced that for me. Like, you cover human interest, you cover celebrity news. And so while I'm not getting as many pictures of Ariel Winter and Demi, remember that girl? What was her name?
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B
The darling of Daily Mail?
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A
I have no idea. She dated Tyga for, like, a minute and then she became like, literally, Daily Mail fodder. I do get all my news from you. And for that, I just want to say thank you for your service because I know you work really hard on your story.
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B
It's my pleasure. And it's true, I do work really hard. Like, I often say I'm very lucky that, like, I've grown this community of people, but it requires a lot of work too. So. Yeah, gotta give myself credit.
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A
You're also a mama.
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B
Yes.
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A
How many months is Lil?
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B
10 months. So she's five months older than Ruby. To the day. And Ruby has my birthday.
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A
I didn't know that.
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B
Yeah, I didn't, like, want to bring that up when he was born because that's, like, so annoying.
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A
It is, yeah.
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B
Like, it's. It's. I'm like, I'm 29. You don't need to talk about my birthday.
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A
And you bring up your age here. It's just not necessary. I want to tell you that like as a 31 year old woman, like.
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B
You better stop, of course, by the way, to say something. And I know you're gonna take it the wrong way, but I was, I was thinking about it on the way here. Like I always thought of you as older than you are, but not because of your parents or like that you're.
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A
I actually get that a lot.
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B
I, I, I remember like when I became a breather, I was like, wait, Claudia's only two years older than me? Like, I thought you were 30, not.
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A
Cuz of how you look. No, no, I, by the way, I actually get that a lot. They do say I'm wise beyond my years. I also tend to hang out with people who are older than me. Sure. I think that was just from like having two older sisters. I was like always hanging out with them and their friends. And then Taylor Strecker is like a lot older than me. I'd love to throw that. Like all my friends are older than me. Shannon is like my age. But most of my friends, I like to hang out with people who are older than me because yes, I do feel quite mature.
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B
You are mature.
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A
Unless we're talking about like poop and farts, then I'm not.
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B
Okay, sure.
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A
Who is? Who is? So you're a mama. Lil is 10 months. And yes, you've had five months to let me know that Ruby's birthday is the same day as yours. And you have not mentioned that. But thank you for bringing that up.
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B
Well, I deserve credit for, for not bringing that up.
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A
That is so mature of you. I could never. Yeah, I could literally never. And do you find like when you're talking to other mamas and they're talking about like things their kids do, it's really hard not to like bring up your own kid. Cause you want to be excited for them and like about their. And like that's amazing that Lil is 10 months, but did you know that Ruby's five months? Like, it's really hard not to bring up your own baby. Cause it's like annoying.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But you also, it's like a point of. It's a shared. It's hard.
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B
You want to talk about your kid and like relate to the other moms and like in doing so, you inevitably talk about your own. But then you're talking about yourself and your baby.
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A
And I'm very conscious of like trying not to always make everything about myself. Yeah. But I'm not making about myself. I'm making it about maybe. Right. So yeah, Ruth's five months. Lil's ten. Like, not a big deal.
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B
No. And it's funny because I was just visiting my cousins, and their baby is almost three months old, and I was like, this difference between these two babies is crazy. And meanwhile, like, me and my cousins are two and three years apart, and we're besties.
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A
Right, Right, right.
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B
So it's just funny how those. Like that sinks down and then it becomes.
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A
And then your cousins and their kids.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Will be second cousins.
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B
Yes. Our children are second cousins with each other.
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A
And, like, do you fudge with your second cousins?
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B
I don't know. I don't even know who my second cousins are.
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A
So. Does that worry you?
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B
Like, it worries me a little. Only because my cousins live on Long island, which is so far from New Jersey. Like, it's so far. People don't talk enough about it because I, like, love spending time with them. But in general, it's, like, awkward because I kind of want to be like, am I your auntie? Like, it's weird that I'm Liz. Like, I'm not Liz to you.
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A
Right.
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But I hopefully, like, they. They stay cousins for, like, close cousins for.
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A
You're very Jersey proud.
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B
Am I?
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A
Yeah. I feel like you're always just talking about how amazing it is to live in New Jersey.
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B
I feel like I'm Jersey. I'm Jersey, but I'm not Jerseylicious. I wouldn't. I actually am not from New Jersey. I'm from. You're from Philly.
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A
Yeah.
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But we wanted to be somewhere that was, like, in close proximity to New York and Philly and your husband's from where? Philly. Yeah, we're both from Philly. We met in high school. I also don't talk about that enough.
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A
That you met your husband in high school. It's such a slight.
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B
Yes. But, yeah, I'm not really Jersey. I have a lot of good things to say about New Jersey, but, like, a lot of the time I have bad things to say. They don't. We don't have any bags in grocery stores, I don't think. Does New York also not New York.
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A
Does, but it's only paper, which you might as well give me. No bag.
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B
I disagree. I think paper is so much better than nothing.
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A
No, you've never been to the store.
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B
And I know slapping your stuff is.
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A
If I lived in a state where I knew I wasn't getting bags, I would be that type of person who byobed. Like, I would bring my own bags, but in New York, like, I know I'm going to get a bag it's just going to be a piece of shit that breaks on the way home. It's almost worse. Like, they're setting me up to fail. Paper bags don't even have handles.
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B
Oh, they give you the ones without handles.
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A
Yeah, Handles are a thing of the past.
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B
Oh, okay. Yeah, it's. It's rough. Like, just bring back the bags.
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A
Bring back bags.
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B
Yes. And then you're forced to buy the cloth bags. At least where I live. And like, that's a bigger waste to me. I don't actually know, like, the environmental impact. You lose them and like, honestly, a lot of the time I throw them away.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And that's better than, like, if they gave you the plastic bags, I would use those for trash in my bathroom.
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A
That's where I start to understand, like, people who hate celebrities and billionaires. Because, like, I'm over here with my soaking wet Trader Joe's bag and, like, you're taking a private jet like that. I understand that. That's when I feel like, you know, channeling my inner Billie Eilish.
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B
Yes.
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A
But then I remember I'm not a Fabian. A pun. I'm like miserable wench. And I'm nothing like Billie.
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B
And a total hypocrite.
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A
By the way, Billie Eilish coming for everyone last night. Can you posted this on your story? What event was she at?
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B
It was the Wall Street Journal Innovator Awards.
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A
And she won one.
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B
Yes. Which is just, like, ironic. And I think people thought it was a slay. Cause she was like, oh, she's in the room and she's like telling them all like, that being a billionaire is bad. But then she was posing with Hailey Bieber, who actually isn't a billionaire. But it's like, girl, she's almost. She has hundreds of millions of dollars. Like, it just. And her point then I saw the full quote was that she was saying, like, people need to donate their wealth. Which, like. Okay, like, that's. That's more fair to me. But it's always seems like she's coming after Taylor. And by the way, like, you can't say that about Taylor because Taylor does donate her.
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A
Well.
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B
Yeah. So.
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A
Okay. I just want to say something about donating your wealth. Oh, obviously, like, it's amazing. Yeah. Like, but. But I want to talk about Mackenzie Bezos. She famously donated, like, what, she got 36 billion from Jeff and she donated like 35 and a half. And that's amazing. And I don't feel like I saw any, like, marked difference. The world is like, still impoverished. There's still like, so you're telling me $35 billion couldn't fix it? What's the point in everybody else donating? Honestly, I'm asking in a really earnest. This is an earnest plea. What is it going to take if not 35 bill.
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B
Yeah. I would need to see some statistics about, like, where the money went and what it actually did.
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A
Right. Like, did she donate it poorly or is it just not enough money?
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Or are the charitable organizations run poorly?
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A
Well, that I feel is definitely a factor.
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B
Yeah. I mean, they, they become. When they become big and they get a lot of donations, they become like big companies. And a lot of big companies are bureaucratic and run poorly. Yeah.
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A
And if I ever did become a billionaire, which is obviously a goal of mine, and I'm not gonna be one of these self hating billionaires like Mackenzie Bezos. Like, I will be proud billionaire. I will not be it. Asterisk like, no organizations are getting my money. Oh, but like, if I see you on the street, like, and like, you need money, like, come over, I'll give it to you.
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B
I think you run into a little bit of a problem there though, because. And they actually, they talk about this a little on the Good Guys, which.
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Like, oh my God, I didn't realize. Oh, it's worth mentioning. Liz is a moron.
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B
Yes, I'm a moron.
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A
She listens to the good guys and everything. I know about the good guys. I know from you. I know because you're like, ben said the funniest thing. And I'm like, he did.
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B
I know. And I've had to scale back because I think one time I said like, he said something a little controversial and. Oh, and you gave me a title. I don't want to know.
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A
You gave me.
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B
I was like, oh, my God, you're so right. Like anybody ever said anything that I was saying that was like, bad or whatever. Like, I don't want to every episode.
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A
Of the Good Guys and be like, you should edit this out. And then I let them, you know, frolic and they have to use something you have to learn the hard way.
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B
Right.
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A
Then Liz texting me, being like, they're kind of saying crazy things on the Good Guys. I was like, wait, what?
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B
It was like, I thought it was cool, but. But I think Ben said at one point that he wanted to, like, donate his money to a person. Like, he wanted to have real life impact. Exactly what you're saying.
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A
And then copying my idea. I definitely told him.
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B
Right. And then he realized, wait, like, I don't know like you could just be messaging me like, I need $100.
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A
Of course, of course you're gonna have to come with like proof of, you know, late payments and. But I'm not gonna make it hard because then you get into the paperwork, pushing paper. No. And you know what if the worst thing I do is give somebody a hundred dollars who doesn't need it and I'm a billionaire, like, I'll survive.
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B
Yes, you will.
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A
So I don't know how we got here. Oh, Billie Eilish for business. All that to say if, when the day comes that I become a billionaire and you need money, you're just like a regular person. Even if you don't need, like, even if you're not like out on the streets. But like, you know, a couple thousand dollars might help. Sure.
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B
Careful what you wish for.
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A
No, a thousand person.
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B
This is how people like win the lottery. And then everybody in their life, like, they, they, their relationships are ruined because people come to them for money.
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A
You know, we talk all the time on the toast about like lottery. What would I do? If you win the lottery, Les P. Woods, what would you do?
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B
Like, buy a house, Definitely, like multiple houses. Probably buy like my family members houses and I mean it's the standard stuff, houses, vacations. I would put it away in like a high yield.
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A
Of course. Of course.
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B
What is it? Like, high yield Savings. Like Chris and I always talk about.
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A
Like it makes like $10 million a year.
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B
Exactly. How much is enough? Where you can like draw a salary every year but still be comfortable.
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A
It's so funny how everybody has these conversations.
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B
They're the best. Like every time the lottery is going to be a billion dollars. It's like, it's so much fun.
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A
Do you buy like lottery tickets? It becomes like never, like literally.
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B
I mean I always talk about, I'm.
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A
Like, how do you expect to win if you never buy?
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B
Well, people where we live never win the lottery.
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A
It never happens. In the tri state area.
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B
No. California, Texas, like Missouri, places like that. But I thought that that guy who won the lottery was so sweet. Like he just wanted to have. That recent guy, he said he like, wanted to basically just like level up his own life, spend time with his wife and chill and like let his wife stop working. I hate to say this though. Like, I do think it's a little bit of a curse. I do think it's a curse.
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A
Yeah, of course, of course. A certain amount.
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B
Yeah. And that your life like changes invariably. People that you love, like, start different. Yeah. Coming to you for money and Then you want to be the generous person that pays for everybody's flights, pays for the hotel, pays for everything. But at what point does that stop?
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A
And to be clear, there is a lottery curse that would skip me.
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B
Oh, right. Okay.
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A
It doesn't apply.
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B
Do you know the episode of Curb when Larry offers to pay his cousin's kids or, like, somebody's tuition, and then the mom's like, well, I actually want to go to cosmetology school. So, like, then everybody comes to you and starts asking you for money for. For everything.
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A
I saw the funniest TikTok, and I feel like you saw, too, because every time you share a TikTok or a tweet that you think is funny, it was on my timeline as well. We have very shared algorithms. But it was this girl who was, like, very glamorous. Like, she had, like, lots of makeup and hair on, and she was like, when I find out that cosmetology school is technically considered a trade school, and there's, like, Blue Collar Boys by Luke Combs playing in the background. So funny.
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B
Like, I loved it, but that's, like.
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A
I should have sent it to you.
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B
That's absolutely true.
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A
I don't send you stuff because I'm like, she's seen it.
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B
Yeah. And I'm the annoying person that when you send me something and I've seen it, I say, I saw that.
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A
I know. Okay, so what is the best way to respond to somebody you respect and love and appreciate? Like, you send me a lot of tweets, and, like, I. If I don't respond, it's because I have seen it. And is that ruder than being like, I've seen it?
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B
Yes. Like, you should say, I saw that. I'm obsessed.
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A
Okay. Yeah, that's, like, a lot of work, but I'll work on it.
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B
Okay.
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A
You watch Love is Blind reunion last night?
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B
I sure did.
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A
So I'll do that as our final story so we can do a proper recap on the sparkle of it all. And that random girl who took up the entire reunion who stays, I had literally never seen.
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B
Yeah, no, she was.
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I did watch with, like, half an eye this season, but still, I feel like I would have remembered her. I swear to God, I've never seen this woman in my life. Well, Liz, I have a question to ask you.
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B
Sure.
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A
Are you ready?
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B
I'm ready for the Fast 5 stories.
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A
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B
Ready?
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A
Okay, first up, I feel like we talk about Dancing with the Stars every day. And I try to be like a little bit measured in my stories because there's like, I got like five stories today and I only chose one because it's about Ashley Dupree and I actually could talk about Ashley Dupree endlessly. And not to like, be annoying. As somebody who grew up in New York City, when the Elliott Spitzer, like, it is so crazy. But she's like, start stuff. And I'm kind of like not on her side, even though I was, I like her message.
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B
Well, wait, what was her message?
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A
That, like the, the they weren't giving Alex good enough scores. Like, I agree.
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B
Okay, well, she got a 39, so.
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A
She was coming for Cheryl, who gave her the nine. Everybody gave her ten. So Alex stepmom Ashley Dupre is taking a dig at Cheryl Burke's appearance after the Dancing with the Stars scoring. So Ashley Dupree is clapping back after Cheryl Burke's score for the influencer on Tuesday night's episode of Dancing with the Stars. The nine remaining couples at the start of Dancing with the Stars Halloween night channel their best spooky energy. Okay, they're just like really verbose. What happened was that she got a 39 out of 40. Cheryl Burke was the only one who didn't give her a 10. Thus the 39 out of 40. And then Alex Earl's stepmom, Ashley Dupre, former madam of Elliot Spitzer and other high net worth individuals was alongside Alex Earl and her younger siblings made it clear that she was not pleased with Cheryl Burke, docking Earl one point and took to TikTok to share her targeted insult towards Cheryl Burke. So Dupre filmed her reaction as the judges held up their scoring paddles. And when Burke held up the nine, Dupre could be heard saying exasperatedly in the oh, go take more oic. Dupre's children seemed confused by the messaging and can be heard clarifying with their mom, go take more Ozempic. And then Dupre doubled down, saying, what? She looks weird. She doesn't even look like her. While Dupre has been open about her body transformation, he's never confirmed the weight loss came as a result of a GLP1 medication. Instead, she told People magazine that she's living a healthy lifestyle with a priority of health for her. But things changed when she entered her 40s. Okay, so whether or not she's on GLP1 is, like, seriously not of relevance. The thing is, it's like, like, I actually like Cheryl Burke as a guest co host. I guest co host, guest judge. I thought she did a good job. I said that yesterday. And like, she should have given Alex a 10 like everybody else was. And I like that Ashley is like, you know, riding for her stepdaughter.
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B
As.
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A
She'S just like a tough person to like. You should be starting beef when you have like, that many, like, dramas in your. In your closet. You know what I mean?
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B
Yeah. And it's. That was like an irrelevant part.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That wasn't a good criticism.
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A
Right. And also it was a week where Alex came out on the top of the leaderboard. So, like, that's not a week to be starting stuff.
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B
Yeah. And also the weird thing was this was a TikTok that she posted, right?
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A
Yeah. It's not like she was caught in the background.
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B
Right. And I thought. Because when I initially saw it, I thought, oh, she was like, on live and people screen recorded her. But no, she, like, said that and then posted it. I thought that that was a little crazy. And like, I think that we all have eyes and we know that, like, and she's already addressed it. She looks different, but, like, she's addressed it. I don't know. It's just like it didn't have anything to do with what she said. And it was, it was, it was nasty.
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A
It was nasty. And also, like, I already feel like a little about Ashley Dupri's social media presence. Right. Like, she is. I know that the family has healed and I'm happy for them. I Haven't. Like, it's so crazy to me how Alex and her family have just sort of welcomed in this woman. And I know they talked about it on Dancing with the Stars and when they have kids, like, yeah, it's really mature. But, like, for me, she's Ashley Dupri. Right. And so it's just. Just her social media activity and the whole, like, she's. This is me. This is negatively. But, like, I don't mean it negatively. Like, riding Alex's coattails creating. She has, like, a couple hundred thousand followers on Tick Tock, and she's, like, becoming famous and whatever. And she's rewriting her own story, if you will. I don't love it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And, like, I always think of, like, Alex's mom.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I just. I don't know. It's not my favorite. So for her to be, like, making news in a negative way. And also, Alex is still on the show. Alex is still trying to win. And, like, you're not making. I could see Alex having been mad at this, but Alex wasn't mad. You know, Affair.
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B
Right. Right. She got an amazing score. And I thought that the. It didn't make her look good. And, like, you're saying, like, those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Not that those two things are equivalent.
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A
They're not. But, like, once you put yourself out there like that, then everybody. You're just bringing up everything.
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B
Totally.
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A
That's why I don't feel like she should have any sort of, like, Internet presence. I think it probably makes it hard for Alex.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Everyone's always bringing up this, like, very painful thing in her family's history. And so whenever she, like, pops up on my TikTok, I'm always like.
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B
Yeah. Cringe.
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A
Do you think she got Alex's permission to, like, start influencing. Did she ask?
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B
She probably brought it up and just said, like, do you care that I. I think it probably happened somewhat naturally. But I. Yeah. I don't.
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A
Cause there's, like, intrigue in the family.
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B
Yeah. As there should be.
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A
Yeah. It just, like, makes me mad for the mom.
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B
Yeah. But because, wait, I don't actually, like, know the full background of this, so.
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A
The father cheated when I was in high school.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Not to make everything about me. Sure. When I was in high school, there was this huge scandal. And I remember it because my high school was right by Elliot Spitzer's apartment. And, like, literally, there was. There was pandemonium outside for weeks. And it turned out he was the governor of New York using, like, campaign funds to Pay for prostitutes or. Yeah, escorts. Prostitutes. Oh, and the prostitute escort who worked with Elliot Spitzer. But then I think she also had like a couple of girls was Ashley Dupre.
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B
She was the main one.
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A
Yes. And she also, like, had. Her black book was then released very like Desperate Housewives when that woman, you know, and in her black book was a bunch of like, high net worth men in the area. Alec Earl's father being one of them. Oh. They ended up falling in love. And now they literally, like, have like a very traditional. They had kids. Right. So he was stepping out on her mom with Ashley.
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B
I see.
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A
And so the fact that they have all. They all have dinner together, like they are this healed family. It's really crazy. And Alex is very, very rarely spoken about it. And even if. I mean, even the times where she did, I don't think she really scratched a surface at, like, how deeply painful that was. And then on Dancing with the Stars, she talked about how, like, she loves her little siblings so much because they healed her family maybe not be in this, like, amazing place without the birth of these kids. So it's all really admirable. And Alex's mom, like, you know, goes on vacation with, like, it's really modern family to the next level. Could never be me.
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B
Yeah, yeah. It's her mom, I guess, is very, like, diplomatic and.
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A
Oh, the mom is a fucking queen.
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B
Yeah. And then so the girl that Alex donated. Donated. Dedicated the dance to was her. The firstborn of Ashley and her father.
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A
Right. Who like, really healed the family. Got it. They say they wouldn't have gotten to this place without Isabel.
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B
Yeah. Okay. So that is a really, really crazy story.
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A
It's a crazy story.
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B
I don't think that precludes Ashley Dupree from, like, ever speaking on the Internet. But she has to be careful. Watch it a little bit.
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A
Yeah. And I don't think that this was. And it's all like. I think she thought it was good and safe because it's all in defense of Alex. Right.
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B
And maybe people thought. She thought people would think it was, like, funny. And everybody saw.
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A
We love to see her, like, you know, standing up for Alex.
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B
Yeah.
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A
No.
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B
Yeah. Especially because, like, you said, Cheryl did a good job.
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A
I thought Cheryl was great.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I've seen Cheryl's tiktoks. I think I spoke about them once on before I was into Dancing with the Stars, about them on the toast being like. Because she used to date. He's from Boy Meets World.
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B
Oh, Matthew Lawrence. Lawrence.
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A
And now he's dating three lw and.
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B
They had a very contentious divorce and.
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A
She was making like a lot of tiktoks looking different. And so she made a lot of news about her appearance like a couple of years ago. So much so to it got to me like, I don't even know these people. I don't watch. Boy, this world. So like, it's just kind of like low hanging fruit for Ashley. I'm not a fan.
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B
Yeah.
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A
All right, next up, some next Next Gen NYC I haven't watched. But I'm always keeping up with Next gen nyc. I do think it has potential and I do think the show could get to a point where like I would watch it. Sure, me too. But they need to like do better and this is doing better. Brooke Shields daughter Rowan has been spotted filming for Bravo's Nepo baby show Next Gen nyc. So a spy tells us that they spotted Brookshield's daughter Rowan Henchy filming the Scion heavy show last week. It was a scene at a holiday nights party hosted by members of the cast for the fashion chain Urban Outfitters. The show, which is filming its second season, stars reality star kids Riley Burris, Gia Giudice, Brooks Marks, Ariana Biermann as well as Damon Dash's daughter Ava Dash and others. And the Calvin Klein model shares Rowan with tv. The Calvin Klein model shares Rowan. Oh, Rowan's dad, like, thanks for saying that, weirdly, is TV writer Chris Henchy. I don't know him, but that's why her name is Rowan Henchy.
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B
Got it.
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A
She's a college grad, but she seems ready for the spotlight. She has 12,000 followers on Instagram, over a hundred thousand on TikTok. She's appeared on red carpets with her mom. She went to the White House correspondence dinner, yada yada. So I actually think that this is a good casting. I think that they have like a couple of good things at Next Gen, but like, not all of it's good. I was really into the Ariana Beerman storyline. I think she's carrying the tone. You know, her and her boyfriend broke up.
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B
Oh, did they?
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A
Yeah.
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B
Okay.
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A
Which is like kind of sad because I feel like her family life was falling apart and like her boyfriend, like she had this really good relationship. I thought that they should and would get married. And he also offered financial stability, which I was excited about.
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B
Yeah, I feel like she needs stability. And you didn't watch the show at all?
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A
Like not one minute of it.
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B
Me neither.
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A
I mean, but I want them to do well. Yeah, I hate that. Bravo can't seem to make a good reality show about New York City. Aside from the original show, which hasn't been good in many years, there's so many interesting people here from so many different walks of life, so much money here and the fact that they, like, can't get arrested. I do think it speaks to, like, I always say this. People in New York with real money, like, don't want to be famous. That's the difference from LA and New York. Like, real money in New York. They want no part of, like, fame, especially reality tv. So it makes it hard to cast people. But there are plenty of rich, desperate people. I'm one of them. Like, yeah, you know, I think the.
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B
It's like, adverse selection. Like, the people who would do the show are the people that, like, you wouldn't really want on a reality show. And, like, what would you say was the reason that Rohoney Original was successful and, like, bypassed this phenomenon?
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A
Well, it was the early days of reality tv. So, like, as viewers, we were just, like, we had less high standards.
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B
Right.
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A
They did have, like, wealthy people. Now they're all, like, strung out. But, like, Countess Luanne was a Countess de la Sepe. She had a townhouse on the Upper east side. Like, it was insane. She had a huge house in the Hamptons. Obviously, things are different now. Even Ramona and Mario, like, builds are classic six on the Upper east. Like, didn't have the most money in the world, but. But they were very, very Zarin. Zarin was big.
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B
Big.
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A
But they were also women who had, like, literally nothing to lose. Like, they didn't really have businesses. They were housewives, traditionally. Oh, you know, I just saw Terry Hatcher was on Skinny Confidential podcast.
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B
I saw that too.
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A
And I just want to say, like, thank you for asking. And I don't love Terry Hatcher. I've. I can't get into my Desperate Housewives thoughts, but I love that they asked her a question that, like, I have long wondered. Not enough people talk about, like, the entire Real Housewives franchise, especially just the name of it. It was inspired and loosely based off of Desperate Housewives and, like, where's Mark Cherry's financial compensation? And Terry Hatcher said, like, he deserves something because it's this huge billion dollar industry. And, like, literally, he started it.
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B
Yeah, it's his idea. Not only that, but when you watch the very earliest seasons of Orange county, like, even the themes and, like, the narration sounded like Desperate Housewives.
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A
The image. Yeah. Like, even to this day, every Real Housewives poster for a new season, they're holding Diamonds. They're holding apples. They're holding oranges. Depending on the city.
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B
Right.
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A
That was the poster for Desperate Wives. They were holding apples.
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B
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure. I guess he didn't own, like, the concept.
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A
Right.
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B
But it really. I mean, and it's the name. Everybody would say that it's from Desperate Housewives.
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A
No, it. It's not even a question of it is or is. It is. But the question is, like, do. Does Mark Cherry get owed some sort of financial compensation?
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B
Here's another question. What else has Mark Cherry done? Like, is he okay financially?
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A
Oh, he's fine.
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B
Okay.
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A
From Desperate Housewives. But he also. Did you ever watch why Women Kill? No, it was only like a two season show. It was amazing. Desperate Housewives is his big. But he definitely has like a million other shows.
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B
Okay. So we're not so worried about him financially.
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A
I'm afraid to ask this question. Did you watch Desperate Housewives?
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B
I watched like the first three seasons and when I was on my maternity leave, and then that was, like, when I realized Marcia Cross is Marcia Cross.
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A
She's so crazy.
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B
I actually couldn't watch anymore. Now I'm not the type to, like, just give up everything where somebody is anti Israel because if I did, I would have nothing to watch or listen to.
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A
Right.
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B
But with this, it was. It was like, so egregious and it just gave me such a pit.
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A
She's insane.
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B
Yeah.
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A
She's wild. So, okay, so Jackie and I were having this conversation last night, like, like, about some people. Like, we had this conversation offline. There are some people. Like, we just can't quit.
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B
Yeah, of course.
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A
And like, whether they do or say, even if it's about, like, Jews or otherwise, like some people, I just can't quit. I forget who you're having the conversation about. Oh, I don't want to say it because, like, I don't want to quit him.
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B
Right.
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A
You know, and it's just funny. Like, it's definitely selective outrage. Call it what you want. But it's also like, sometimes I just forget.
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B
Yeah. And sometimes the. The project is so. It transcends everything. This is Pargie. Like, I'm sorry, we were just talking about Billie Eilish, but Birds of a feather. Like, I will never. I was skipping that song for a while and then I remember. I think I posted or you posted. I can'. I remember, like, one of us were.
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A
Like, like, can't quit the show.
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B
She's free. I'm.
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A
I'm.
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B
I need to listen to the song. It's beautiful. What? I should suffer.
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A
Suffer. Exactly. And she's Fabissa.
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B
Right. And I'm just. I'm listening to a song. Right. I'm not, like. Not that I have that much power, but I'm not, like, I'm not going to her concert. It's a very small, like, financial contribution.
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A
Agreed. And it's fine.
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B
Yeah, it's fine.
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A
It's fine. I almost want her to be a billionaire just so that, like, you can call her out. Stop talking.
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B
Oh, yeah, for sure. I don't think that happens.
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A
So I do think next gen is almost there. Like, I also think I might be just too old for it. Yeah, Like Ariana Beerman's. What? I mean, this girl's 22. What am I watching a 22 year old for?
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B
Well, I think it's possible for things like that to be good, but I think you've just outgrown Bravo in a lot of ways. Generally. I have.
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A
There are a lot of shows that, like, I used to live for that I just, like, can't watch anymore. It doesn't serve me. That's a fair point, too. I also think, like, the concept of them doing Bravo Nepo babies, like, was a good idea, but something. And this is gonna be mean, and I don't mean it to be mean, but, like, some things, like, are just not gonna be good. Like, when Brooks Marks is a part of it. Do you know what I mean? Like, it makes it just, like, fake.
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B
Oh, do you remember the time that I saw you at, like, leaving Zero Bond? To be clear, I wasn't at Zero Bond.
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A
Yes, yes, of course.
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B
There were so many people leaving that night, Kim being one of them. I saw you and I saw Brooks Marks, and he was like. He loved the fantastic. We were like, we're not here for you.
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A
I know. Like, and that's what I mean. It's just. It's not a good fit.
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B
Yeah. And also, it's. To me, that show is so clearly cobbled together. Yes. We know that Real Housewives in general are cobble. Like, these people aren't usually real. Definitely rare exceptions. But this was like, let's just put all of these people on a random.
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A
Bunch of people who have quite literally never met.
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B
Right. So I find that. I find that hard to.
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A
Like, you're telling me Brooke Shields daughter and Gia Giudice hang out? Like, they don't.
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B
They don't.
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A
They don't. All right, next up, we have some White Lotus news. They have decided they're shooting season four in Paris and at the French Riviera at two five star hotel. So they haven't officially confirmed which hotel. Variety has learned that Mike White anthology will indeed not next shoot. Why do people write like, in this way? Just tell me where they're shooting. They've actively been scouting swanky locations in both Paris and French Riviera. So similarly to season three, how they were at Kosa but then had like that storyline in Bangkok, they're going to be in the French Riviera, like south of France with a subplot in Paris, which I do kind of like. And I do think French Riviera. Like, I would have guessed that, but I thought it would be too obvious. Like south of France. Like, I don't know. I just thought they would do something different. But I guess they really don't want to do some work on.
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B
Oh, I. Okay. So, like, I don't watch the White Lotus. I know. I literally come here and I was like, I'm just like. Like, Claudia doesn't have to worry about me. Like, institutional knowledge of all these things. I don't watch Next Gen. I didn't.
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A
I. I don't watch either, but I can talk about it.
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B
I like, but I think that offers something good. It's kind of like when you and Jackie sometimes talk about football and it's like, it's. It's funny.
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A
An outsider's perspective.
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B
Right. I will say I like, I know something about it. And like, I've been to the south of France.
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A
Oh, okay.
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B
Speak. I mean, I was there once. They should do it. They should do it. And it. Honeymoon, by the way. Like, it wasn't.
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A
I was a better time.
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B
Yeah, I. They should do it at the hotel we stayed at because it was amazing. And it wasn't the classic 1, the.
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A
1 Hotel du Cap.
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B
I think they maybe would want to do it there because it's so, like, quintessential. Also, didn't they have a partnership with the Four Seasons that ended.
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A
Oh, did it?
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B
Yes, I think that I saw that story. So now they have their own. Yeah, yeah.
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A
I guess that was, like, kind of limiting. And what does HBO owe this random hotel chain?
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B
Right. And like, they don't need the press.
- [35:38]
A
The Four Seasons. No, I mean, I could. I would love to see some sort of, like, statistic on how the White Lotus impacted. I mean, that Italian hotel with the Jennifer Coolidge season on the Vespa, you can't get a room at that hotel for. For years. I know the. The Maui one was like, kind of everyone has been there and, like, it's like, obvious, right? But nobody had really known about this, like, random small town in Italy. You can. You will not be able to stay there for the next 10 years. I would love to see, like, a financial report.
- [36:02]
B
Okay.
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A
On the impact of HBO on four seasons and, like, why that was such a random partnership.
- [36:06]
B
Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, it worked. Also, I have a question. Could I, like, watch season four having not watched the first three, or.
- [36:12]
A
It's a good question, because Ben joined me this season and I think last season without having seen the earlier seasons. And while, yes, you can enjoy it, every season is a reset. Like, they cast new people. There are two or three characters who have started from the first season and work at all the different hotels because it's the same chain in the. In the show. And it does seem like they're painting a larger picture with these random people who show up for mere minutes every season. So I would recommend watching the earlier seasons, especially because they're better. Like, the Hawaii season is definitely the best season.
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B
Okay.
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A
And then the Italy season is actually great too.
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B
Okay.
- [36:45]
A
And then this most recent one, like, wasn't my favorite. Have there been three? Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, what are you doing? Watch them all. Like, why you're so busy.
- [36:52]
B
I have this, like, this. I get mad when other people, like, like something so much, and then I'm behind on it. I'm like, forget you guys.
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A
I'm.
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B
I'm too stubborn now.
- [36:58]
A
Severance.
- [36:59]
B
Oh, yeah. No, I'll never watch it.
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A
So Ben comes home and he went. Where did he go? He was on a plane. Oh. When we flew home from la, he flew home earlier, and he's like, I watch the most amazing show. I was like, have you ever heard of it, Severance?
- [37:13]
B
Like, it's the biggest show on television.
- [37:14]
A
I'm like, yes, Ben, I've heard of it. And he keeps calling it his plane show, which I like. I know, Ben. So, like, I know that's what he means. But he's talking to Margo. He's like, this plane show, and Margo's, like, manifest. She had no idea what he was talking. And he was like, it's called, like, Severance. He's talking about it like, he found this, like, indie film, and he's only on the fifth episode. And I'm like, okay, I will join you. But, like, we have to watch the first five episodes again. And he's like, well, I can't. So we're just, like, sort of at this standstill every night where I watched Love is Blind Reunion last Night. And he just scrolled TikTok for two hours. It was so annoying because Ben's scrolling TikTok and I know I scroll TikTok, but it's different when I do it, of course. And his is all music.
- [37:47]
B
Oh.
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A
And so he'll turn to me and, like, show me these punk rock Taylor Swift covers, and it's like, I need you to stop. I don't care.
- [37:52]
B
I also don't really like those. I'm sorry.
- [37:54]
A
Like, I agree.
- [37:55]
B
Respect to. To bunge. I. I find them. Like, I. Everyone's always so moved by them, and I'm like, I don't know, like.
- [38:00]
A
Like the genre shifting for Taylor Swift. Like, I'm good.
- [38:02]
B
I don't like it either.
- [38:02]
A
I completely agree. Great. Does your husband scroll a lot?
- [38:06]
B
No.
- [38:07]
A
Like, that's nice.
- [38:07]
B
He doesn't have any.
- [38:09]
A
Talk about.
- [38:10]
B
He doesn't have any of these apps.
- [38:11]
A
Like, that's insane.
- [38:12]
B
No, I know. It's actually nice, though, because it means, like, when I'm making Instagram stories, I don't have to think about him, like, watching them. And that's really freeing. Not that, like, he's, you know, like, he's going to do anything.
- [38:22]
A
That's a great question. Like, you don't have to, like, fear, judgment.
- [38:24]
B
No. I find it, like, creating really hard when there's people I know, there's people I know watching it, like, way harder than if I'm just, like, speaking to an audience. Audience of anonymous people.
- [38:34]
A
That's why I love that Ben doesn't listen to the toast.
- [38:36]
B
Yeah. Because you can let her rip.
- [38:37]
A
Some could see it as unsupportive, but I see it as freeing because I can make fun of him.
- [38:40]
B
I think that, like, podcast every day is cr. Is crazy.
- [38:45]
A
And it is worth mentioning. I can't remember the last time I listened to an episode of the Good Guys. Maybe it was the one that I was on and I didn't even listen to it. I just experienced it.
- [38:51]
B
Yeah. And you hear. Yeah. You hear so much about it when he comes home, probably, that you feel like you don't need to.
- [38:54]
A
It's so true. He was just, like, gabbing away the other day. I knew about all that. John Stamos.
- [38:59]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [38:59]
A
That was a.
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B
That was a biggie.
- [39:01]
A
That was a biggie. Did you see Jen Affleck put it on her story?
- [39:03]
B
Because he. John Samos talked about her.
- [39:05]
A
Ben brought up Jen Affleck. I don't know why they were started talking about Dancing with the Stars with John Stamos, but Ben was talking about it and then he was talking about how that Jen Affleck's on it postpartum. And then John Stamos was like, oh yeah, she's like that cute girl, right? And I think she was like, really?
- [39:17]
B
Oh my God, I would almost called her cute. Never do anything ever again. That's amazing.
- [39:21]
A
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And I and I don't find him funny a lot of the time, but he had Prince Harry on his podcast, which is like a huge deal. I didn't even know that he had a podcast. So like it's not like he's a major contender in the podcasting sphere, but this was a really big deal and he used it as an opportunity to be funny. And I really appreciate that. So the Duke of Sussex was hilariously asked about what he thinks about Taylor Swift and Charlie XCX's feud on the Hassan Minaj Doesn't Know podcast. And then the host introduced the topic by warning Harry that it was a very heavy topic. He introed it really funny. He explained it really funny. And Harry just sort of like stood there dumbfounded and I just want to say like, nothing. Harry Last name Windsor?
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B
Harry?
- [44:20]
A
I was gonna say Styles. What is his name?
- [44:22]
B
Are they Sussex?
- [44:23]
A
Nothing? Prince Harry.
- [44:24]
B
Right?
- [44:25]
A
Does like makes me laugh, smile, or even feel a remote pang of joy. I just think he's the most insufferable loser on the planet. But you know what? This is funny.
- [44:32]
B
I thought he was funny too.
- [44:34]
A
Yes. It takes two to tango.
- [44:35]
B
Yeah.
- [44:35]
A
These are two people who I don't normally like find intriguing or funny.
- [44:38]
B
Slade not only that, but I don't think that many people like mainstream are talking about the Charlie Taylor thing. Besides, you guys.
- [44:45]
A
It's true. It's very Internet chronic online.
- [44:47]
B
So not only was he, like, talking about this, but he was talking about it with Harry. I thought that that was hysterical.
- [44:52]
A
Me, too. And, like, there really isn't much to talk to Harry about. Like, obviously, if I had him on this podcast, I would ask him. But you're not allowed. Right. The publicists. And so you can't talk about megxit. You hear talk about the things that are interesting. So he was probably scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to talk about because, like, you can only talk about mental health for so long. And I appreciate, like, Hasan getting creative. And it's funny.
- [45:11]
B
It is funny. And I think also I wonder what, like, Harry makes of Taylor because.
- [45:17]
A
Because William is a big Shake it off fan, of course.
- [45:19]
B
And there's so many, like, lines.
- [45:21]
A
That's actually really true. Okay. Not us, like, being able to make it, like, interesting and dramatic. That's a really good comparison.
- [45:26]
B
And also bringing up Taylor Swift, like.
- [45:28]
A
At every opportunity, I think I answer to this, but what do you make of the Charlie XCX Taylor Swift beef?
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B
I feel like the exact same way as you guys. I mean, there are some parties on both sides of these that I don't like, but for the most part, I'm Team Taylor.
- [45:40]
A
Yeah.
- [45:41]
B
Did you feel at all like it was kind of punching down?
- [45:44]
A
Yes. So I wish she didn't address it because, like, it makes Charlie relevant and, like, puts Charlie on Taylor's level and she's literally not. But, like, Taylor's mad, and I support mad women. There's nothing like a mad woman. I think, what a shame she went mad.
- [45:59]
B
I think that Taylor, like, my beef with Taylor often is that she's bringing up before. I'm like, girl, you won.
- [46:05]
A
I know. It's so over. Like, the fact that she's still making songs about Kim and Kanye, like, oh, how the mighty have Fudgeing Fallen.
- [46:12]
B
But also, like, she doesn't need to. I know she won. I think it's, like, clear as anything. I always say that her last flex should be going to the Met gala because it's. You always say it's Kim's bot, Mick. It's.
- [46:23]
A
It's a Kardashian Sweet 16.
- [46:25]
B
Nobody would care about Kim. I mean, actually, I think inside people would maybe be more hostile to Taylor because I think there are people there.
- [46:32]
A
She has a lot of enemies in the industry because everyone's jealous of her. And she, like, Loki has beef with a Lot of people. But like Billie Eilish does attend.
- [46:38]
B
Yeah.
- [46:38]
A
Charlie XCX does attend. Carly Kloss does attend. Oh, you posted something really interesting on your story that I feel like not enough people are talking about Gigi.
- [46:46]
B
Carly.
- [46:47]
A
Yes. And you said like, I feel like this is a reach, but it's not. Gigi Hadid sharing on her Instagram story. So Carly Click posted. Gigi has like a cashmere line and I guess they make like kids stuff. And Carly just gave birth. So Carly posted on her story like, oh my, it's so cute. Baby's wearing this guest in residence. That's the name of her brand and tag, Gigi. Gigi reshared it being like so cute. That's crazy.
- [47:05]
B
It's crazy for two reasons. One, Taylor, Gigi, obviously Carly. Two, politically, yeah. There's some Israel, Palestine. Yes.
- [47:14]
A
Kushner.
- [47:15]
B
Right, Exactly. So. And I don't know which Gigi was fine with like doing away with first, but I thought that that was like crazy. And I like I said I really don't care to post about Gigi on my story, but I was like, this is wild.
- [47:26]
A
I think about that a lot with Gigi and her ex. Former step half sisters, the Fosters.
- [47:31]
B
Yeah. And like, do you think Gigi watches.
- [47:33]
A
Nobody wants this. No.
- [47:34]
B
I don't know. But like I think after October 7th and all of the, you know, the Israel stuff, like I think after is when the Fosters went on watch what happens live and said like they, they speak to her.
- [47:43]
A
Yeah. Now Sarah. Yes, she did.
- [47:45]
B
I do think like, I don't, I don't know, people's like personal lives and personal like politics or whatever. Do you can, I think still be friends and family with them? But it's awkward because like they're in the public sphere and they're so. They are the public sphere.
- [47:58]
A
Yeah. It's so true.
- [47:59]
B
So yeah, that was wild. Do you think it's possible that Gigi and Taylor are.
- [48:03]
A
I mean, I would love that.
- [48:04]
B
I like, I can't hide my smile.
- [48:06]
A
I have long said that I think Taylor, like one of my greatest criticisms is her is like if I was her, I would be like the people she's friends with. Celebrities are the last people on earth I would be friends with. Like, I just don't, I don't vibe with any of her selections and yeah, except I don't think it would be good for Taylor to lose another long term friend. I don't think it would make Taylor look good. Like Blake Lively and her obviously Blake Lively's A villain. So nobody thinks Taylor's wrong for that. But you know the girl who like loses all of her friends, you're like, well, there's something wrong with the girl, not the friends.
- [48:32]
B
I think people already say that whether or not Taylor.
- [48:34]
A
Yeah, yeah. But like, and I don't love Selena, but I think her long standing friendship with Taylor, like, makes them both look good. Like, it's nice to have people who have no friends. Like, there's something weird about you. Right.
- [48:44]
B
And I think Taylor feels really strong that like, she shouldn't not be friends with people because of their public presence. Because I think it's fair because there.
- [48:51]
A
Was a time where Taylor's public presence was really negative and I think people didn't want to be friends with her. And that really, deeply hurt her. That's why for so long, I know everybody says I'm like a denier, but I did not believe that her and Blake were not friends anymore because the idea that Taylor would be on the outs with somebody who's publicly being canceled is so I think goes against Taylor's philosophies totally. And a part of me still kind of believes that they're going to be like psychological still friends.
- [49:14]
B
I don't think so. But I was, I, I, I think that, I think the reason that that friendship ended allegedly is, is deeper than like the public, what the public was. Because I really do think Taylor would stand by her friend through anything. And I do think some of the things that we've heard about like the lawsuit affecting her have been true or some version of that has.
- [49:32]
A
And it's worth mentioning. Taylor has like a lot of friends, but Blake is like different. She's the godmother. Like they're so deeply connected.
- [49:38]
B
They are. I mean, I mean I, like, I thought somebody tweeted that she didn't want to release the reputation rerecord because Blake Lively's daughter did the voice and gorgeous and like she, Taylor, in doing her. Taylor's versions would bring back people. Which by the way, people don't talk about that enough like that all these people came back. I mean she's Taylor Swift, but still.
- [49:55]
A
But yes, the long standing relationships, it's impressive.
- [49:58]
B
It is impressive. And that like one of the daughters does the intro to gorgeous and so she just like didn't want to do it because she didn't want to have to deal with it. Yeah, yeah.
- [50:05]
A
But it's actually a good point.
- [50:06]
B
It's, it's, it's sad, like, and like there's all those videos of her with the kids?
- [50:10]
A
No. Terrible.
- [50:12]
B
So I can't wait for, like, her bachelorette party content, because then we'll really.
- [50:15]
A
See, like, who's who, and I think.
- [50:17]
B
We'Re gonna see it.
- [50:17]
A
But to go back to your former point, I really would love and kind of need Taylor to go to the Met Gala.
- [50:22]
B
I know.
- [50:23]
A
Especially because, like, I also could use, like, a Taylor Vogue cover. Like, whatever happened to that? Vogue is the reason Taylor has bangs, you know? And so I would love that.
- [50:31]
B
Yeah. I think she and Travis need to do it just once.
- [50:33]
A
Yes, absolutely. And it's very, like, Giselle and Tom Brady.
- [50:37]
B
Totally.
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A
I. Yeah. Okay. Our fifth and final story is the Love is Blind reunion. So Megan Sparkle Walaris. I guess she has a last name. Her first name is Sparkle and her last name is Megan. And I do wonder if she regrets sharing just that, like, that little nickname. I don't know if she knew that Netflix was gonna run with it and just, like, literally put her name title as Sparkle. But she has confirmed last night was reunion that she welcomed a baby during the off season. So she said, I'm a mom now. I had a baby boy two and a half months ago. I have a little boy, and he's my whole world, you know? I now know more than ever that I was meant on this earth to be a mom. He's amazing. Our family's really happy. Happy. They obviously asked, like, who's the daddy? And he was in the audience. He's a baldini. He's so cute. I'm so happy for her.
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B
I actually, when I saw him, I gasped because I was like, that's a man.
- [51:19]
A
Like, and that's a guy from the pictures, right? Paparazzi pics.
- [51:21]
B
And you can tell he's rich, like, just by his vibe.
- [51:23]
A
Thousand. A little bit older, too.
- [51:25]
B
Yeah. I'm happy for her in that sense. I do. I agreed with you 100%. Where you were just like, Jordan offers her something that she couldn't find with the other people. And I thought him saying that was such a slay. He was like, all of the other.
- [51:35]
A
Guys that were rich, like, didn't work out.
- [51:36]
B
They didn't work out. And that was for a reason. Maybe it was, like, a little cutting to her.
- [51:39]
A
But I thought that was.
- [51:40]
B
Was so on point.
- [51:41]
A
And I feel like this guy that she's with, like, they might not be together if they didn't. She said, like, it wasn't easy. Like, I don't know if it's this great love.
- [51:49]
B
Yeah.
- [51:49]
A
I think if anything, like, he maybe Makes her miss Jordan, maybe. I, like, ship them so hard.
- [51:55]
B
I thought that the way that they also handled their, like, confrontation was so mature. And I wondered also, like, is that because they both have kids? Like, these are people who, like, they can't deal with, like, these petty things. Yeah, I have. I had a problem with almost everybody else at the reunion.
- [52:08]
A
Same. Oh, my God. Like, not the. Like, that couch with the girl whose name I don't know, Madison. Like, such loser energy.
- [52:16]
B
Nobody was agreeing with me when I was. By the way, I was posting about how Casey, I thought, she's a very unsympathetic character. I really didn't like the way that she handled situation.
- [52:26]
A
That said, like, I rode with her last night.
- [52:29]
B
The way Patrick was, like, acting like her dad.
- [52:31]
A
Okay, so Patrick was, like, living for the fact that people on the Internet, he was the victim. Right. She didn't handle this breakup poorly.
- [52:36]
B
Well, at all.
- [52:37]
A
And I was not on her side. So he got like, you know, you either die the hero, live long enough to become the villain. Like, he loved that people were, like, riding for him and he was, like, regurgitating Internet points, just, like, throwing them at her face. He's like, listen, I'm going to give you the chance. Yeah, like her dad. Exactly. Going to give you the space to apologize so, like, you can stop getting hate. And I'm sorry. Ick of the century. Talking about the ring. Like, why the fuck would you want a ring? It's for girls. Like, and thank you, Casey. Or who was it? The nurse Alley. You didn't pay for it. Like, Netflix did, so Casey absolutely should keep it if anyone's going to take it back. It's Netflix. Ick. Get out of here. Like, what, are you going to wear it?
- [53:15]
B
Yeah. Also, it's like I was sitting there being like, everyone, stop being poor. Like, they wanted the ring because why did you want the ring? And, yeah, shout out to Ali for bringing that up again. Like, Casey kept saying things during the reunion where I was, like. Like, where she was. You couldn't tell whether she was lying about being with those other guys. She's not somebody. Someone I was, like, going hard for, but because he was so awful.
- [53:35]
A
Yes, he was awful.
- [53:36]
B
I was 100% on her side in that confrontation.
- [53:38]
A
A thousand percent. Like, I could not stand him. And then that Chris Paul thing.
- [53:42]
B
What was that?
- [53:44]
A
Genuinely, what do you think?
- [53:46]
B
Chris asked me? Do you think they paid him? Or do you think Chris Paul's, like, a big Love is Blind fan?
- [53:50]
A
There's literally no way he's A Big Love is Blind.
- [53:52]
B
How much money do they have?
- [53:53]
A
I have no idea. Or. Or Chris Paul has a Netflix show coming out, like a something. It's that cross promo.
- [54:00]
B
Yeah, yeah, it's that.
- [54:01]
A
What on earth? It was crazy. And the fact that they never let it end. No, Like, I was like, okay, it's like, fine, just make your shot. But then they both kept tying, so they had to go four rounds. Like, seriously, what was that?
- [54:12]
B
That was crazy to include awful. I will say. I actually like the music. Is that crazy?
- [54:17]
A
Oh, no. I mean, last season they had Alex Warren.
- [54:19]
B
Alex Warren.
- [54:20]
A
And they get good people. I don't dislike it at all.
- [54:22]
B
I thought it was cute. It makes the event actually probably a little more fun for the people there. And, like, I know that you're more of an industry person, so you probably know that going to tapings of those.
- [54:32]
A
Things, like, sucks, miserable.
- [54:33]
B
Make it a little fun for the people. And I. I didn't think it took up too much time. The reunion was actually an hour and 14 minutes. It could have been 50 minutes.
- [54:40]
A
Yeah, but it wasn't bad.
- [54:41]
B
It wasn't egregious.
- [54:41]
A
No. When there are so many people and, like, you do want to give, like, proper time to each storyline. I could not believe how much time we spent on that blonde girl. And I guess she was involved in, like, two love triangles. So, like, she wasn't a relevant. But she was not on my screen past episode three or four. Why was she the entire reunion? And I'm sorry, Madison has a little bit of Patrick syndrome, where she was definitely, like, the injured party. Yeah. And you get high on your own supply whenever on the Internet is gassing you up, and then you just become insufferable. So sorry. Like, I'm team Joe.
- [55:11]
B
Right. I agree. Also, I was gonna say that, but I thought it was crazy because, like, I'm not a mustache girly, but, like, I thought it made him look, like, just older and better.
- [55:19]
A
No, he's hot. And, you know, he, like, fucks, like, he had, like, a million girls. And he was with Avery, and then he was with Casey, and then he's with Madison, like, obsessed.
- [55:27]
B
I think with Madison, it was. At first I was totally on her side because it's. I can't imagine. More also something more painful than, like, the guy not liking you because of the way that you look.
- [55:36]
A
And I just want to say I thought that too, but upon further reflection, I actually think, like, Nick, while at first he was like, wait, this girl's not my type. I actually think he was really into her. He said all we did was fudge and fight. Like, I actually think he was surprised by how attracted he was to her, given that she wasn't his traditional type. So I think the reunion was actually quite flattering for Nick because I now no longer think I can never remember Kevin. I can never remember who their names are. I actually think the. The reunion was quite good for him because when he. When they were talking about how they went out after and they made out and he started crying.
- [56:12]
B
Yeah.
- [56:12]
A
I'm sorry. The allegations that he wasn't into her or that he didn't find her attractive are false. I. I feel like they are false. I think the reunion was actually really good for him. I do think he really liked her. I think she was insufferable as a partner.
- [56:24]
B
Yeah, I. I agree.
- [56:25]
A
And they weren't a match.
- [56:26]
B
She kept saying, like, and why did you kiss me? Like, that was really confusing. It's like, well, did you not kiss him back also?
- [56:32]
A
Like, he's not allowed. You're allowed to go through your feelings, exercise, like, things you. He's not.
- [56:37]
B
Yeah, she didn't know how to be the victim.
- [56:40]
A
Yeah, she was insufferable. And then her and that other girl next to her were like, gassing each other up. Oh, my God. Hate it. I did not like it. You know, like, Loki came off looking good and did not have a good season.
- [56:48]
B
Who?
- [56:49]
A
Annie?
- [56:50]
B
Oh, my God.
- [56:51]
A
Well, she fixed her hair, first of all.
- [56:52]
B
Well, of course. Imagine how good it feels to, like, look amazing after people come for you on the Internet, especially because, like, they were right. But it was mean.
- [57:00]
A
Her hair was crazy. But it was also. I feel like people had a little bit more license to criticize her hair because she is a hairdresser.
- [57:04]
B
I know, but, like, it affects her business.
- [57:06]
A
Of course.
- [57:07]
B
Of course.
- [57:07]
A
So you are. You are a walking advertisement. Of course.
- [57:11]
B
I thought she was amazing. I thought she was. The fact that she came to Nixon defense, who was literally self flagellating. Like, he was so sorry for. And I really believed him.
- [57:19]
A
I did too.
- [57:20]
B
Maybe I'm like, gullible or naive.
- [57:21]
A
No, he's not an actor. No, it's just a regular person.
- [57:24]
B
I think, like, he. He seems like a religious person, so I really thought, like, okay, this is thoughtful apology. Yeah, he's. He felt sorry and he didn't like the way that he looked. And, like, that's all he can do. He can't prove it any other way. And this girl Kate was like, I don't know. It could still be like, not genuine, but she.
- [57:39]
A
She was so put off by this insanely mature, genuine, thoughtful apology that the only thing she knew at INV do was like, maybe. I don't know. She was. That was the biggest loser moment ever.
- [57:51]
B
Yeah.
- [57:52]
A
And I didn't watch the last 10 minutes.
- [57:54]
B
I mean, I did, but like, I was on.
- [57:55]
A
It took us so long to get to KB and Edmund and. Which is almost not fair because they were actually engaged and they're one of the very few couples who actually made it to the end of the altar. But I was just so over the reunion by that time and I don't know, it's very much he said, she said. I hate when people talk so heavily about things that happen off camera. Like, I want to believe you, but I didn't see it.
- [58:12]
B
I. Yeah, I think that the people who are saying that he probably, like, shouldn't have been on the show were on to something.
- [58:18]
A
Yes.
- [58:19]
B
And I think Jackie came away like, really hating him and really being on KB's side. And like, I just don't agree with that. I think it. When there's such like an. A clearly uneven relationship.
- [58:29]
A
Yeah.
- [58:30]
B
I'm not really going to like, side with the person who's giving a laundry list of things, even if they're true.
- [58:34]
A
I know.
- [58:35]
B
I'm sure they are. I'm sure he was doing X, Y, Z and he kept saying, like, oh, well, you know, I. But I love you. Like, he was toxic. However, like, to me, she was clearly more emotionally mature than him and she.
- [58:45]
A
Regulate her emotions too. So I thought it was really good that she said, like, I know everyone's giving me shit, like, because he was exactly who he was in the pods, but she only heard his voice. She's like, I didn't see him being so animated and so emotional. Like, I didn't even realize he was crying. You can't see, you can just hear. And I actually appreciated that because he. He was himself the entire time. Himself was just like a little nutty.
- [59:05]
B
Yeah. I thought that was well taken.
- [59:07]
A
Yeah. Her pulling that thing out of her bra, like, was in a slay.
- [59:09]
B
She did say, though, she was like, it's not like that.
- [59:12]
A
Yeah, no, she said, like, I just have a hard time remembering things, but I don't know what's to remember? Like, this was an engagement. Yeah.
- [59:17]
B
And she, like, that's her thing. She likes having like a list and data to back up. Which, by the way, like, there's something to be said about that because when you're in the heat of an Argument. It can be hard to, like, remember the things that you're thinking of. But, yeah, whenever people, like, bring receipts to reunion, it was like, the first time somebody did that, it was probably. It was such a slay. I don't know who it was.
- [59:31]
A
I don't know who it was either. But obviously there are moments where it's, like, huge. You know, Candace and the. Monique and the binder.
- [59:38]
B
Oh, my God.
- [59:38]
A
From Potomac.
- [59:39]
B
Was that the season where they had, like, a fight?
- [59:41]
A
Yes, the physical fight. And then, of course, Ramona printing out screenshots. Like, those are iconic moments. Now it's like a trope. Like walking off. The first person to ever walk off, Ramona Singer, when they were talking about Alex McCord's nude photos.
- [59:52]
B
Yeah.
- [59:52]
A
And she just walked off. And Andy was like, where are you going? She's like, oh, I don't want to.
- [59:55]
B
Be a part of it.
- [59:55]
A
Be a part of nude photos. Like, lol. Do you see? Last night she went to a Halloween party. If you're not following Ramona Singer on social media, you aren't living. She posted the most crazy fucking video. She went to a Halloween party and she said, guess who I'm dressed up as? And I was like, well, you're obviously Joan Rivers. Oh. Turns out she was Marilyn Monroe. And then I didn't know until she was like, Happy birthday, Mr. President.
- [60:18]
B
Oh, Ramona.
- [60:19]
A
She is a caricature. Put her back on tv. I've had enough. Yeah, like, okay, we get it. She's not woke. Okay. Like, it's fine. She's so fucking crazy. I saw her in the street the other day. She looks amazing.
- [60:29]
B
Yeah.
- [60:29]
A
It's insane that she's like, oh, God, my almost 70. She's a star. Whether we like it or not, she is our problematic star. Put her back on tv. Yeah, she.
- [60:36]
B
She brings something that people are bringing these days.
- [60:38]
A
It's so true. Because she don't give a fudge. And she also does not live on planet Earth.
- [60:41]
B
Yeah.
- [60:41]
A
Which is, I think, is a really important key factor in being a success, real reality star.
- [60:46]
B
Totally. I agree.
- [60:47]
A
Liz, is there anything else you want to talk about promote dive into before we wrap up today's episode?
- [60:51]
B
I don't think so. I think we covered. We covered the topics. You can follow me on Instagram and TikTok at Liz P. Woods. I also posted today that I'll be moderating an event on behalf of the Jewish National Fund, which you can find the link to on my stories. If you want to go and swirl it up with some other Fellow, swirl.
- [61:06]
A
It the fuck up.
- [61:07]
B
And. And that's it. I'm so grateful to be like part of the rotation.
- [61:11]
A
Let me just say if you're not following at Liz P. Woods spelled exactly how it sounds on Instagram. Like you are living. I know you work so hard on your Instagram stories and so I just feel like I always need to gas you up. Like if I had to follow one person it would like be Jackie and my family and then you. Not Ben though. Like I would follow you before Ben. Honestly, Ben, like his content does do it for me.
- [61:30]
B
He doesn't post that much.
- [61:31]
A
He doesn't. And like I don't know. I just like what you post. I need to know. Like in a. In a biological sense. Sure. So I highly recommend everyone following at Liz Pwoods on Instagram. Thank you so much for being here. I'm sure you'll be back again cuz like you're a crowd favorite and like why if it's working, you know, like if it's broke, why not broken? Thank you guys so much for listening to the trust and morning show. We the fastest rad YouTube watching on YouTube. Please subscribe this video. Thumbs up also podcast public video. I already cast all places we podcast review and a beautiful setting and okay.
- [61:59]
B
Woo.
- [62:00]
A
Wickedly talented. We are. Have an amazing day and oh we'll see you tomorrow for toast Toine. Any predictions?
- [62:04]
B
No. I can't wait though.
- [62:05]
A
It's going to be so great you guys. We'll see you then. Love you. Bye.