Female Founder Friday: Friday, March 14th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – Female Founder Friday | March 14th, 2025

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: March 14, 2025
Episode Title: Female Founder Friday

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1. Morning Updates and Personal Stories (00:05 - 10:17)

Touch a Truck Event:
Claudia shares her experience attending a "Touch a Truck" event, a children's party where kids can interact with various trucks.

Claudia (00:40): "I literally ran off of a fire truck to come record the show because we're at a pool room party this morning... the trucks were touched."

Southern Charm Discussions:
The hosts discuss their reluctance to recap the latest episodes of "Southern Charm." Claudia mentions drama surrounding Leva’s restaurant, Zachary's Daiquiris, which has faced backlash over accusations of elitism and racism for enforcing a dress code.

Claudia (04:03): "Her restaurant has its own show... being accused of, like, elitism, I think maybe a little bit of racism as well."

Personal Anecdote – Baby Kicks:
Jackie shares a heartfelt story about experiencing anxiety over her baby’s movements, leading her to nearly visit the emergency room.

Jackie (07:43): "I almost took myself to the emergency room. Like, that's how, like, I was, like, really convincing myself something was wrong."

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2. Skipping Advertisements (10:17 - 14:21)

Note: This segment includes advertisements for Smart Mouth and Alara Health, which are omitted from the summary per user instructions.

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3. Meghan Markle's New Podcast: "Confessions of a Female Founder" (14:21 - 25:21)

Launch and Concept Critique:
Jackie and Claudia delve into Meghan Markle’s latest venture—a podcast titled "Confessions of a Female Founder" produced by Lemonada Media. The hosts express disappointment with the podcast's name and concept, finding it clichéd and lacking originality.

Jackie (19:13): "She's launching Confessions of a Female Founder... It is a tired trope."

Potential Guests and Expectations:
They speculate on potential high-profile female entrepreneurs who could add value to the podcast, such as Sarah Blakely or Bethenny Frankel, contrasting these with their belief that the actual guest list may lack substance.

Claudia (20:43): "I feel like Sarah Blakely could be the first guest on the show. She's like promoting those sneaks."

Overall Sentiment:
The hosts lament that Meghan Markle's podcast might not meet expectations, fearing it will focus excessively on promoting Meghan rather than delivering insightful conversations with female founders.

Jackie (23:03): "It just doesn't give me a lot of hope that this will be really substantial when it comes to getting to know Megan."

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4. Wendy Williams' Candid Interview on The View (34:15 - 36:02)

Interview Insights:
Claudia reports on Wendy Williams' exclusive, pre-taped interview with "The View," where Williams discusses her conservatorship and mental health.

Claudia (34:07): "Wendy Williams wants her guardian to get off her neck. ... she got candid about her current conservatorship."

Hosts’ Perspectives:
Jackie and Claudia express skepticism about the authenticity and depth of the interview, comparing it unfavorably to Britney Spears' experiences.

Jackie (35:09): "Honestly, I think the sheer fact that she sat for an interview speaks to her mental capacity."

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5. "Verity" Movie Updates (36:44 - 41:20)

Film Production:
The hosts discuss the filming of "Verity," starring Dakota Johnson and Josh Hartnett, highlighting leaked stills and their implications for fans of Colleen Hoover’s novel.

Claudia (37:20): "For any of you who didn't read Verity... this is the opening scene of the book."

Expectations and Spoilers:
Jackie expresses concern over potential spoilers from leaked scenes, while Claudia shares excitement about seeing beloved book characters come to life.

Jackie (40:10): "But I'm sad that I didn't have that same experience. I have, no, I read the book so long ago."

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6. Ted Lasso Season 4 and Women's Soccer (41:29 - 45:21)

Season Renewal:
Announcement of "Ted Lasso" Season 4, featuring Jason Sudeikis and a new women's soccer team. Juno Temple is in negotiations to join the cast.

Claudia (41:29): "Ted Lasso season four is a go with Jason Sudeikis and a women's team."

Women's Soccer Expansion:
The hosts debate the viability of expanding women's soccer in the U.S., considering the challenges and potential cultural shifts needed for success.

Claudia (44:00): "I was a female soccer player. I love soccer."

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7. Jason Isaacs’ Prosthetic Portrayal on TV (47:26 - 54:01)

Controversial Scene:
Jackie and Claudia critique a scene in an HBO show where actor Jason Isaacs uses a prosthetic penis, discussing the implications for gender inequality in media portrayals.

Claudia (49:37): "If Jason Isaacs doesn't want to show his real penis, can't we just take out that moment?"

Industry Standards:
The conversation highlights the disparity in how male and female nudity is handled in television, advocating for equality and authenticity.

Jackie (50:43): "But if you have ibs, like, perhaps you don't poop."

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8. Media Literacy and the Chet Hanks Story (55:05 - 58:03)

Misreporting Incident:
Jackie and Claudia examine how media outlets recycled an outdated interview with Chet Hanks, misrepresenting his father's (Tom Hanks) advice as recent and directly related to his current project.

Claudia (55:10): "Chet Hanks turned to his award-winning father Tom Hanks for acting tips ahead of his breakout role."

Hosts’ Takeaway:
They emphasize the importance of media literacy, urging listeners to critically evaluate news sources and verify information before accepting it as truth.

Claudia (58:07): "We’ve started calling out these journals."

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9. Queenie and Weenie of the Week Segment (58:59 - 66:21)

Queenie and Weenie Picks:
In their final segment, Jackie and Claudia highlight individuals or entities that acted commendably (Queenie) or poorly (Weenie) during the week.

• San Francisco 49ers as Weenies:
  They criticize the team's handling of player Kyle Usecheck's release amid rumored interpersonal drama among team members.

Jackie (60:00): "The 49ers are my weenies of the week because... I just wanted to tell you that."

• Love is Blind Season Critique:
  Jackie labels the latest season of "Love is Blind" as a "weenielicious loser sneeze," expressing frustration with the show's direction.

Jackie (63:47): "Everything was truly the definition of weenielicious loser sneeze."

• James Kennedy as Queenie:
  Claudia mentions James Kennedy as their Queenie of the week for his exemplary behavior.

Claudia (64:03): "My Queenie of the week is James Kennedy, obviously."

Final Thoughts:
The hosts wrap up the segment with brief mentions of upcoming content and personal updates, maintaining their signature humorous and candid tone.

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Conclusion

Throughout this episode of "The Toast," Jackie and Claudia Oshry engage in lively and candid discussions spanning personal anecdotes, critiques of current media projects, and commentary on broader industry trends. Their blend of humor and critical insight offers listeners a comprehensive and entertaining overview of the week's notable events related to female founders and media portrayals.

Notable Quotes:

• Claudia (00:40): "I literally ran off of a fire truck to come record the show..."
• Jackie (07:43): "I almost took myself to the emergency room..."
• Claudia (04:03): "She'll be fine. But that's... just what it is when you launch businesses..."
• Jackie (19:13): "She's launching Confessions of a Female Founder... It is a tired trope."
• Claudia (44:00): "I was a female soccer player. I love soccer."

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

[Claudia]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

[Jackie]

It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

[Claudia]

I sound amazing.

[Jackie]

Welcome back to the. Oh, no, hold on.

[Claudia]

Welcome back to the.

[Jackie]

No. Welcome back to the. No, hold on. Okay, should we just start, like.

[Claudia]

That's funny. Sure.

[Jackie]

Okay. Hey, Jax, how you doing?

[Claudia]

I'm doing good. I'm doing sweaty. I have had such a busy morning. I literally ran off of a fire truck to come record the show because we're at a pool room party this morning and it was one of my favorite kinds of events, which is Touch a Truck, which is not something, apparently.

[Jackie]

This is like a category of child's party. I never heard of it. A Touch a Truck party?

[Claudia]

Yeah, like a Touch a Truck event where a local place will invite all the great trucks to come and the kids can touch a truck. And I would have never understood why that's amazing before having sons. But let me tell you, the trucks were touched.

[Jackie]

Oh, hey.

[Claudia]

And I was touched vis a vis the trucks.

[Jackie]

I also had, like, a crazy morning, but not even close. I washed and blew out my hair because we had. We had like, two extra hours since you were out touching trucks. We're recording a little bit late, so it was, like, kind of the perfect time for me to wash my hair this week. I'm broken. Like, I am dead.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no, I'm. I'm a bit broken from carrying the two on top of a full, like, working digger. That was major.

[Jackie]

The fire, also known as an excavator, correct?

[Claudia]

Oh, yeah. But they don't. The kids don't call it that because.

[Jackie]

No, I know.

[Claudia]

Unless you're, you know, a blippi.

[Jackie]

Unless anybody listening to this show, like, doesn't have kids and they don't know what a digger is. I didn't know what that was either, but, like, it's an excavator. The yellow cat.

[Claudia]

The yellow cat, exactly. The fire truck, though, had par g ac. So I want to shout out to the fire truck because the others did not. So it was really fun. If you ever find yourself able at a tat event available to attend to Touch a Truck, I would highly recommend it.

[Jackie]

Are they colloquially known as Tates Tuck a Truck event?

[Claudia]

Oh, no. Maybe they're tats.

[Jackie]

Touchy Trucks or Tates Tuck a Truck. Wait, what are we saying? Touch a Truck events, perhaps? Events. Events. I want to go to events.

[Claudia]

Invite me to your Events. Invite me to your touch a truck events. We will come there, and we will touch. Touch them. Trucks.

[Jackie]

We will touch them. It's also just like. I know it's a weird word, touch.

[Claudia]

But that's exactly what it is. All kids want to do is touch trucks. They want to look at them. They want to be up close, and this provides that opportunity.

[Jackie]

It's Friday, and that's fabulous, obviously, but it definitely feels like a weird kind of Friday because I don't want to, like, let down the SCQ Southern charm community. But Jackie, for the first time, didn't watch Southern Charm.

[Claudia]

You know what? I had to force myself not to watch Southern Charm last night because I knew that today's episode, we were either gonna be doing it really early or late, and I didn't want to feel compelled to do a Southern charm recap and make the show a nilafi. When we don't have time for an alafi. It might be a Nasafi or a nerafi.

[Jackie]

We have time today for a nilafi, though, like, now. Now that we decided to record late.

[Claudia]

That's true. I feel like it'll be a narafi. A nice, regular episode for you.

[Jackie]

You can't predict these things, you know?

[Claudia]

No, it's a nice, regular one for you.

[Jackie]

Or it could be narefi. Nice regular episode for you.

[Claudia]

Yes. So I held back, and also, I was just, like, on my phone last night. I got home late because we were out to dinner, and I just. It wasn't in the cards for me. So I'm sorry. To the small and mighty Southern charm community. I do want to know what the barber told Ryan that told Leva that told JJ that JJ said to the barber, I do want to wait.

[Jackie]

I'm sure you don't know about this, but, like, Leva has found herself in, like, some drama on Tick Tock that made its way and has nothing to do with the show. It has to do with her restaurant.

[Claudia]

Her restaurant has its own show. Southern hospitality.

[Jackie]

She opened a new place. Zachary. Zachary's. Are you familiar?

[Claudia]

Zachary's Daiquiris.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Who's Zachary?

[Jackie]

No clue. And so somebody posted a review, and normally, like, a restaurant review, like on Tick Tock, nobody cares. But when they realized it was love his restaurant, it became the psych huge channel. I'm really not clear on the details, but she's being accused of, like, elitism, I think maybe a little bit of racism as well, for enforcing a dress code. I'm not 100 sure. I found myself in the middle of The Zachary's daiquiri's drama. And like, I seriously, I. You know what I said to myself? I said, how did we get here? How do we get out? And I just like kept scrolling. But just want to let you know she's kind of going through it.

[Claudia]

Interesting. You haven't provided enough color. So I don't really.

[Jackie]

I don't have it. I don't have it to provide.

[Claudia]

She's going through.

[Jackie]

I'm not with. She's going. She's got her restaurants that. Going through a big scandal.

[Claudia]

She'll be okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah. You know, they're like review bombing it.

[Claudia]

She'll be fine. But that's. That's annoying. But that's just like, that's just what it is when you launch businesses off of reality TV or social media. Like, it's the tides. Rising tides raise all sides, low tides, lower all sides.

[Jackie]

The vibes today might be off one because there's no Sq. But also because I chose the stories. Jackson super busy and I feel like I kind of did an amazing job. What did you think when you opened them up?

[Claudia]

So it's funny, some of them were the obvious ones. Like of course, Megan's Lemonade.

[Jackie]

Lemonade.

[Claudia]

It's lemonada o'clock.

[Jackie]

Like, no, I'm tingling. I need to. It's Female Founder Friday. Okay.

[Claudia]

It is Female Founder Friday.

[Jackie]

Of course.

[Claudia]

We were going to talk about that and then you. You chose actually like a lot of TV stuff.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I did end up on deadline.com.

[Claudia]

No. This literally feels like an episode of like TV Guide. Like here's.

[Jackie]

There was a lot of news about television.

[Claudia]

No, I know. I wonder if I would have come to the same conclusions. But I love it. I love it.

[Jackie]

Well, just.

[Claudia]

You love it for a day.

[Jackie]

I. Yeah.

[Claudia]

Right.

[Jackie]

It's a lot of pressure choosing the story. So if you don't like it today it was all Jackie.

[Claudia]

No, it was all Code Jersey. I know everyone like loves to. It's an art choosing stories.

[Jackie]

It is.

[Claudia]

It's hard things that like you think we should choose a story. Like, it's just not meaty. Like, you know what I mean?

[Jackie]

There's not enough to like converse about. But also like, sometimes I have to really. I know when to put forth, like Internet stuff that I want to talk about. Right. And like that I can explain to you and some of our, you know, beloved gen Gen X listeners. And the other week there was something going on on the Internet that people were like really shook. We weren't talking about. I'm sure you don't even know about it, but it was like this rap battle beef between Alabama Barker and Bad Baby, the Cash Me Outside girl.

[Claudia]

I do know about it.

[Jackie]

Now I want to tell you guys, I know nothing about it other than what I just said. That Travis Barker's daughter Alabama, who's like a social media influencer and who's like 16, is beefing with the cash me outside Dr. Phil girl who has like become a pretty, like well respected rapper woman. Yes, yes, she's a woman. Beyond that, I actually like couldn't get myself to learn more about the drama. Like I have, I have standards for myself, you know what I mean? And like, that is information I actually don't want to know. I don't think it's good for my brain. I don't think it's good for the baby.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no, I have a life. I have friends and family and I just don't need to be spending my time doing that.

[Jackie]

I can't.

[Claudia]

Like, Tyga was involved in some way.

[Jackie]

I was he. See, I don't know. I don't care to know. Like, that is something I actually chose. I would like to be excluded from this narrative. Wait, speaking of the baby, I did something really crazy last night.

[Claudia]

Baby?

[Jackie]

No, no, the bad baby. I went to bed and I was just like, you know when you like get in your head about something, like you know it's fake, but like, the more you think about it, like you, you convince yourself that that's the reality. I'm like, oh, I really haven't like felt the baby kick like all day. Even though, like, I know I felt one in the bath. But like, usually like, like these days, like I could feel the baby a lot. So then like I was dreaming about like the lack of kicks. And then I woke myself up at 4 in the morning and I was like fully convinced that something was wrong. Like nothing was wrong. I was like laying in bed googling how to feel the baby kick. I laid in bed for four hours on my left side, like tapping the belly. Sorry. Not for four hours at four in the morning, for one hour until I felt three kicks. Like I was having the craziest like psychosis in the night. And I was like telling you I felt nothing in my belly. I felt like I was like back on oic. Like I felt like, felt like skinny as a needle.

[Claudia]

Oh, I'm sorry for that.

[Jackie]

It was terrible. Like it was terrible. The. The. The tr. The. The tricks the mind plays.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I got terrible sleep because of it.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I'm Sorry.

[Jackie]

But this morning, he was like, I'm here.

[Claudia]

Right. Well, maybe he was just trying to give you, like, a restful sleep. Most people complain. Maybe only kicks in the night.

[Jackie]

Too restful. It was too restful. Things were too quiet.

[Claudia]

Yeah, but that's actually kind of nice. Like, very considerate. I feel like it bodes well for his personality. Like, he's very much a people pleaser.

[Jackie]

Jackie, let me tell you, I almost took myself to the emergency room. Like, that's how, like, I was, like, really convincing myself something was wrong.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And it's like, I think that happens a lot to people. And then you also hear stories where, like, someone's like, I knew something was wrong, and so I went to the hospital.

[Jackie]

Yes. And you're supposed to, like, trust that instance.

[Claudia]

How many times do we know something is wrong and nothing is wrong?

[Jackie]

I know. I know. And I was like, if I just. And I was, like, gonna text Dr. Fox. Like, I really. And I'm glad that I didn't because, like, it's like nothing happened. But I don't know. I just, like, had a feeling. But my feeling was, told you to.

[Claudia]

Come in the morning and just get on the monitor and, like, yeah, you'll see the kicks and they'll send you home.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I was, like, just saying, I think they deal with full night's rest.

[Claudia]

I think they deal with that often.

[Jackie]

I think a lot of girls take themselves to the emergency room and are.

[Claudia]

Like, like, trusting their intuition.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Just being, like, making sure there's a baby in there. It's like, there's so much trust, you know, in pregnancy, like, the fact that there is a baby in there, you know?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, according to who?

[Claudia]

The monitors? The lack of people when you haven't.

[Jackie]

Been, like, in between your doctor's appointments.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, like, according to who? God?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Profound.

[Jackie]

Thank you.

[Claudia]

Other than that, have you had a splendid evening?

[Jackie]

Yeah. I finished Running Point on Netflix. I felt like maybe it was one or two episodes too long.

[Claudia]

Okay.

[Jackie]

You know, that's me. I like, short take.

[Claudia]

Share your thoughts because you chose a running point story.

[Jackie]

I did choose a running point story, and that wasn't because, like, selfishly, I just finished it. I actually was wondering the content of the story. I was wondering if. If Chet Hanks got any acting advice from his father, Tom. And you know what? Page Six is going to let us know today, I think. What is that? Probably, like, third or fourth story fodder. Right.

[Claudia]

Fifth. Stay tuned for the. Stay tuned for the details. You don't Want to miss this?

[Jackie]

Coming right up after the break.

[Claudia]

After the break.

[Jackie]

Should we get a break?

[Claudia]

That's so beautiful. Well, I also have to sing, so it's like not perfect, but it is time for the Fast 5 stories. You need to know you.

[Jackie]

I know you mean when you say like some days it's not like it doesn't flow naturally. I feel like you just forced that.

[Claudia]

Like I did because you literally, like held a gun to my head.

[Jackie]

I bet you over and spanked you. Yeah. You know what? You don't have to do it anymore.

[Claudia]

Thank you.

[Jackie]

Only when it feels right. Only when it feels right.

[Claudia]

Okay, I'm doing something else. We've got the Fast5 stories for you after the break. Hit the bridge.

[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

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[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

T U R T. You know what.

[Jackie]

Not to sound like Ben having like, like an Eastern, like medicine moment. Eastern moment. But does anybody ever realize that the word meditation is medication without the C?

[Claudia]

Yeah. Well, no, I haven't, but yeah, but.

[Jackie]

It'S kind of powerful when you think about it, right?

[Claudia]

Why don't you swap out your medication.

[Jackie]

For some, for some meditation, something to think about.

[Claudia]

So about the C for the T. Correct.

[Jackie]

And that's what being dyslexic, that's the type of like really intellectual thoughts you're gonna get from a girl who reads ads, who is definitely dyslexic. I definitely like when I read these ads. The words are just like all over the page.

[Claudia]

It's a lot reading.

[Jackie]

I'm definitely living with dyslexia.

[Claudia]

Oh, that's really wonderful. You should explore that, because I know Piper.

[Jackie]

No, no, I don't want to explore it. I. I live to have, like, six undiagnosed medical conditions.

[Claudia]

I have arfid, Live for six. Diagnosed coccydinia. It's changed. As a woman.

[Jackie]

It has.

[Claudia]

But, like, ibs.

[Jackie]

I do. Yes. I thank you for. Thank you for reminding everyone about my ibs. I appreciate it whenever someone, like, talks about their ibs, and I'm not saying that we should ever be ashamed of our illnesses, like, speak your truth. But as somebody who, like, talks about ibs, like, I need to stop talking about it because I just know the person I'm telling is, like, envisioning me on the toilet making a duty. And, like, I don't want that image in their head.

[Claudia]

No, but I feel like IBS can go either way where it's like, oh, maybe she doesn't duty like.

[Jackie]

Well, people. Yeah, people don't realize I had the type of IBS where I was constipated.

[Claudia]

I feel like if you want people to think that you don't poop, you could say that you have ibs, because if you don't, if you say you have nothing, then of course you poop. Like you're regular.

[Jackie]

Regular.

[Claudia]

But if you have ibs, like, perhaps you don't poop.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but I need them to know it's the. The good type of ibs. The beautiful type.

[Claudia]

It's ibs, Aladdin.

[Jackie]

So, yes, I did technically get a. Diagnosed with ibs, but I haven't gotten diagnosed for my dyslexia or my arfid.

[Claudia]

And I just feel like if you did, that could really become a cornerstone of your personality.

[Jackie]

And these are the invisible illnesses that me and millions of Americans are living with every day.

[Claudia]

Certainly our fit is invisible. Yeah, dyslexia seems more tangible.

[Jackie]

No, dyslexia is real. And I'm telling you, I feel like I have it.

[Claudia]

How do you get tested?

[Jackie]

I don't know. I feel like if you made it out of, like, elementary school without getting tested, like, it's too late for you.

[Claudia]

Like, who gets.

[Jackie]

Who gets late in life? Dyslexic.

[Claudia]

You literally read 15 a year. You're going to be okay. Whether, even if you have dyslexia, like, you're strong and you're pushing through.

[Jackie]

Think about how many I could read if I finally tackled my lifelong battle with deception.

[Claudia]

All the words were straightforward, Correct. Well, that's something to think about unlocking potential. And that's what we do on this podcast. We help you unlock your potential through.

[Jackie]

Meditation and medication, 100 and mediation.

[Claudia]

Well, ain't that the truth.

[Jackie]

What are we even talking about?

[Claudia]

And Lemon Nation.

[Jackie]

Because our first Lemon Nation. Oh my God. Could this story have dropped at a worst time Yesterday, as our asses are getting up from the chairs, something Jackie and I have been waiting for four months finally comes out. Now, I'm glad that I actually had a minute to think about it because sometimes getting breaking news on the show is great, but I don't get time to really fully form my thoughts.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no. And yesterday's episode was stacked and today is a Fridays with a lot of TV news. Like, we needed this as our lead story. But you guys, Meghan Markle's podcast with Lemonada Media has launched. We have a title, we have artwork, we have a description.

[Jackie]

Years after being announced and very vaguely when it was announced, we didn't get the name of the show, the concept of the show, and like we have it all now.

[Claudia]

She's already had a podcast, don't forget Archetypes on Spotify. And then Lemonada was acquiring her podcast. So you would think like Archetypes on Lemonade or whatever. No, it's a whole new thing. So like Archetypes is in the can. Like flop. That we're going to call it a flop on Archetypes. Yeah. No.

[Jackie]

And we're also calling that's a wrap on Archetypes. Like, it's over. I thought maybe Lemonada would be the second coming.

[Claudia]

I thought so too. But no, like you did like 210 episode seasons of archetypes and that was it. So we're. That's a flop.

[Jackie]

Yeah, 1,000%.

[Claudia]

Officially, yeah. Megan is now launching Confessions of a Female Founder with Lemonada Media. It comes a year after she struck a deal with the company for her podcast. The series will launch on April 8th. It will see her have candid conversations with female founders and friends who open up about the struggles, the success, and the never before told stories that took many of them from starting a company to selling it. Per the log line, the series allows audiences to be a fly on the wall and hear the unfiltered stories behind the success, the success of notable female founders, while also sneaking a peek behind the curtain of Megan's own entrepreneurial journey. Launching as ever, it's an eight part series that will see episodes released weekly.

[Jackie]

And they announced the first guest.

[Claudia]

Who?

[Jackie]

Danielle from Summer House founder.

[Claudia]

Oh, dirty. I was like, I missed It.

[Jackie]

No, I was sitting on that joke for, like, 10.

[Claudia]

I was like, damn, I was in that truck for too long.

[Jackie]

No. And that's just kind of like, brings my. My. My first and initial thought about this. It brings it home. There is no two. Actually just one word that I hate more than founder. To me, founder is the new entrepreneur. It's code for unemployed. It is meaningless. Like, and yes, there are founders of companies. And like, yes, like, Mark Zuckerberg is the founder, but it is colloquially taken on this, like, toxic Internet hustle culture. Like, founding the founding. Like, shut up. It means nothing. So to put it in the title of your podcast, and I think if you. You had broken this news to me on the show yesterday, I would have the same thought yesterday that I. This didn't require deep thought. This is a very bad name for a.

[Claudia]

And a pretty cringe concept. That's pretty overdone. I feel like, you know, there has been this moment and this girl, boss, CEO.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

And. And that was then. And that really did have a big moment. And now we're in, like, a new phase of it where, like, it doesn't have to be this way. And, like, corny, corny cringy. And I do feel like it sets the bar just, like, lower for women. Like, it's like. I don't know. I. I don't. I think I understand why she's doing, like, females, because, like, also, Lemonada is, like, elevates women's voices. So I feel like Lemonado was, like, female, but I don't think she pushed back. I think she's, like, female, and everyone in the room is, like, female.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Well, I feel like if this podcast had been launched five years ago, like, Elizabeth Holmes would have been a guest. Like, that's. When you say founder, like, that's the type of person you're attracting. And I just. I hate this. This culture now. If. If she's having, like, I guess it really does depend on the guests. Right? And she did get very good guests on archetypes. The conversations weren't really interesting, but the guests were Shin Mariah Carey. She had any Cohen. I believe she had Mini Kaling.

[Claudia]

I feel like we wasted the good surprise on them.

[Jackie]

Like, a thousand percent.

[Claudia]

Really wants to be a guest on this. It sounds very unserious. As we guide Megan into her founding of her new brand, as ever, which is like a jam that she slapped a label on. Like, it's not really big business. And the people that you would want to hear from the. The real female founders in this country. Like Sarah Blakely. That's who we want. That she's the richest self made billionaire in the country. That's who should be your first guest on the show, Bethany Frankel.

[Jackie]

By the way, I feel like Sarah Blakely could be the first guest on the show. She's like promoting those sneaks.

[Claudia]

Emma Greed and Yes, I'm just going down the shark tank. Female.

[Jackie]

Yes, I'm agreed. That's a very good one.

[Claudia]

Lori. Barbara Corcoran.

[Jackie]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Claudia]

Kim. Kylie.

[Jackie]

Him. Yeah, Kylie. But there are a million ways that she could do this. Well, like the name is Cringy, but like if she does, if she has half the guests that you just mentioned, like a real women, like talking about like their business sense, business strategy, who have like really achieved amazing things that like has potential to be interesting. I don't think that's what it's going to be. I think it's going to be like, how can I make this about me? Because a theme with all these projects at Megan's recently been launching and like, actually the things that are coming to fruition is like they all are in promotion of as ever. And like, that's really boring.

[Claudia]

Yeah. No, and if it's. If you're just interviewing people, getting their stories, then having a more anonymous host and a professional host is better because we're getting the best out of this person. But if it's always supposed to tie back to Megan, which it should because she's Meghan Markle and we're interesting for her. But that's not like a great conversation because we're trying to do too many things. Like this reminds me also, of course, like Diary of a CEO, which I think I've never listened, but, like is amazing. I feel like, I would say, I.

[Jackie]

Would say it's also like the leading business podcast.

[Claudia]

I feel like I can say that based on a track record, clips I've seen. It's been around forever. It's a great concept. So this is like a very watered down version.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claudia]

Of that concept that has been done. Women are always talking to other women. How'd you get here? How I built this. Like, we got it, we got it. This is not an original idea. It's not exciting. It's not something that only Meghan Markle can do. There are things in this world that only Meghan Markle can do. A former Princess, Duchess of Sussex. And this is not anyone can do this. By the way, there's two other podcasts with this name.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And so I think that it's disappointing, especially because I feel like with her TV show, one of my biggest takeaways was that she wasn't. I would say the thing that she lacked the least in that TV show was the hosting capability. Like making eye contact with camera and funny references and stories and personal anecdotes and jokes. And that's all a podcast is. Right? It's just your voice. And I feel like her voice was the thing that was really missing from the TV show. Maybe because she saved it from the podcast. I don't think that's it. But like, it just doesn't give me a lot of hope that this will be like really substantial when it comes to getting to know Megan. And that's like all we want. I feel like that's all the feedback that we give. But also a lot of people is like just scratching the surface a little too much, which is fine. Nobody's compelled to like share their life with you. But don't do a podcast.

[Claudia]

Don't do a TV show.

[Jackie]

And a book and a documentary.

[Claudia]

And a documentary. Yeah, yeah. Like so I wish you have to open a vein self too thin for someone that doesn't even have that much left in the tank and.

[Jackie]

And who's seemingly unwilling to like open up and like, you know, bleed out for a podcast. Which is fine. You don't have to. But like that's the best. Podcasts are people just like bearing it all. That's what the medium kind of requires from a host.

[Claudia]

I don't even know what that would look like from her.

[Jackie]

Her.

[Claudia]

And I feel like she thinks that she has like. Right. It was opening up and bleeding out and wasn't the documentary.

[Jackie]

I will say I think Oprah is probably the most honest and vulnerable. Like she had been with us up until that point. And she's kind of like closed off ever since then, which again is fine. No celebrity, no matter how famous are nobody is entitled to know your innermost thoughts. But don't launch platforms built on the.

[Claudia]

Business premise of that.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah. So I mean, it hasn't come out yet, so there's still potential. But just name like so corny and seriously cheugy.

[Claudia]

Like so Lemonada.

[Jackie]

Honestly, in. In the worst way. Like sometimes somebody can be Lemonada and it's like Lemonada.

[Claudia]

Like why than me with Julia re drive is Lemonada.

[Jackie]

Yes, that show is really popular, but this is Laminata. Yeah, it's just like corny ass International Women's Day type shit, you know.

[Claudia]

And the photo is not making me want to tune in more than I already did or didn't.

[Jackie]

Agreed. The photo is giving, like, stripped back, acoustic. You know, hair and a pony.

[Claudia]

But it's not confessions. So why do you need you stripped back? Aren't you Barbara Walters? Get your glasses on. You're interviewing.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Work. And also when she was, like, quote, interviewing her guests on her Netflix show, which maybe she wasn't interviewing, they were just, like, conversing. It was all about Megan, which is great. Like, I want to know more about Megan. Megan. But she. Oh, that was funny. Also, like, came out of left field. I don't know why. I feel like the universe that you exist in. Like, I watch Drake and Josh, like, all the time growing up with Margo. Like, I feel like you never even saw an episode of Drake and Josh. Do you know what I mean?

[Claudia]

Yeah. No, not. Maybe not as much as you, but I obviously know the Lord, and I know.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie]

You actually scared me, like, just now. Megan, if you listen to the good guys, he actually does it all the time.

[Claudia]

That's so funny. I hope that he, like, does it when they talk about Meghan Markle.

[Jackie]

I don't think they talk about Meghan Markle, but if they did, he's had Megan.

[Claudia]

That's why it'll never be great.

[Jackie]

So true. Just the good guys. I forgot what I was saying. But also to say, like, disappointing.

[Claudia]

You said that the guests always talk about make.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah. And it's like they came with, like, prerecorded stories about, like, something that paints Megan in a flattering light. Like the makeup artist when she ordered me room service for the first time. Mindy talking about the Jack in the Box like it was all in service of Megan. Which is fine, but for a podcast where we're interviewing other people, maybe Megan really will take a backseat and just, like, ask thoughtful questions. Which is. Which is good if the guests can carry.

[Claudia]

No. But also all those questions on the show. On the TV show, like, it was the producer prompts, like, yeah, you didn't hear Megan ask the question because, like, someone behind the camera did. Was like, how'd you. What was the first time you met Megan? What was that like? Like that we were both on TV.

[Jackie]

Shows for seven years.

[Claudia]

What's it like being like, it wasn't even her asking the questions. This is just, like, really a bad idea. And I don't understand why they're doing all this. I don't understand ways to make money for them.

[Jackie]

I don't. That's a really, really good point, because they're very well connected. Yes, of course. They live, like, a very fancy life, and they come out of the woodwork every couple of years to do a project. Harry obviously was just doing the books, and then they took a break, and now it's Megan's turn. Like, they each take turns paying the bills. And I think when you get to a certain level of celebrity and, like, you're so well connected, like, there are kind of easy ways for you to make money. Not public facing. Right. Like, you get opportunities to invest in random things that are like 100%, you know, sure to go.

[Claudia]

That's good.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I don't know why they insist on doing so much public facing work to pay their bills, because I do.

[Claudia]

Believe the whole thing was they wanted their privacy.

[Jackie]

Right. And I do believe, like, all the work that they do, even though Harry definitely is like, I need to tell my story. And we're like, okay. I feel like for the most part, a lot of the projects they take on are seriously just paychecks, which is very regular of them. We all got bills to pay. And I don't know why they insist on doing it in, like, a public facing way. Like, I know that's definitely one way to do it.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

But invest. There's a. Like, when you're that rich, like, you just get these opportunities, like, to make money. Your money makes money for you.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And Harry comes from money.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Maybe. I don't know, but I guess they were getting, like, these big deals, like $20 million from Spotify. Like, is there an easier way to make 20 million? That's kind of.

[Jackie]

I don't know. Yeah.

[Claudia]

20 mil from Netflix.

[Jackie]

It's also really interesting how he is.

[Claudia]

Have a big bucks.

[Jackie]

Yes, yes, yes. They're huge.

[Claudia]

They have the big bucks.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Oh, wait. We should, like, kind of shut the up.

[Jackie]

Yeah. That's why I said, like, you were being negative. I'm like, no, Lebanon is amazing.

[Claudia]

Lebanon is the place to be, especially for women in podcast. Female founders, that's for sure. Female founders, of course. Like, it would be. I just say this because I'm jealous. It would be a dream to be with Lemonada.

[Jackie]

It is also very interesting that Harry is completely absent from all of her projects these days. Like, he didn't show up on the show.

[Claudia]

They say.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I know, I know. I feel like it. It signals like a. And maybe this is just me projecting because I can't stand Harry. Like, I really. Even with the show Megan with Love. Like, I didn't like it, but, like, she, like, I enjoy her. She's pretty. I can't stand this man. Like, I. And maybe other people feel that and, like, his Q score has gone down, so they're just keeping him, you know, behind the curtain for a while because he's not gonna be on the Female Founders podcast. He wasn't in with Love Megan, even though it was a show about, like, home, Home and heart. Home and heart. So where in the world is Harry Mountbatten?

[Claudia]

Windsor, Sussex, Duke. I don't know. And I don't think they're getting divorced, because that is what the streets, like, are always. Me neither about them. I do not think they're getting a divorce. I don't think they could ever get a divorce, and I don't think they think they'll ever will get a divorce, no matter how much they might hate each other.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I agree.

[Claudia]

I think what could. Like, seriously, could you imagine? No.

[Jackie]

I guess it would have to be, like, irrefutable evidence of, like, you know, maybe, like, him at a strip club or, you know, like a picture. I don't know.

[Claudia]

No, there's no.

[Jackie]

They would work through it.

[Claudia]

Bound for life.

[Jackie]

All that to say. I probably won't be listening to this.

[Claudia]

No. And who will be all to say?

[Jackie]

I don't know. Because it feels like she has no fans left. Like, how is it us? We are her biggest fans. Yeah. You have to call stuff like, my.

[Claudia]

Pulse check on, like, Megan stands. Like, how are we feeling? What does this make us feel?

[Jackie]

It feels like everyone has left her.

[Claudia]

But, like, everyone hasn't left her until Sassy has left her. Like, truly, if she has zero fans.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Then Sassy has walked out the door.

[Jackie]

Devastating.

[Claudia]

So I need to know. But I do feel like. Like, I didn't see Stassy posing, like, oh, my gosh. With love.

[Jackie]

With love. Yeah, I know. She's been actually silent.

[Claudia]

Real quiet.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Well, that's the latest in podcasting. Confessions of a Female Founder, you guys. Finally, the one we've all been waiting for.

[Jackie]

Also, like, the trope Confessions of is such, like, a tired. Especially for a podcast. But, like, just in general. Culturally, it's just a very tired trope. Like Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, Confessions of a Shopaholic. It's very, like, overused and tired. And then the female founders, it's just, like, really corny.

[Claudia]

Unless Ina Garden named her memoir Confessions of a Contessa.

[Jackie]

No, her name should have been Barefoot Confessions.

[Claudia]

Barefoot Confessor.

[Jackie]

Sure.

[Claudia]

That was the only way.

[Jackie]

But I agree, it's a tired trope.

[Claudia]

And I just don't feel like we're going to be getting a lot of confessions. It's just a bunch.

[Jackie]

These are my confessions.

[Claudia]

I am curious who the first. The guest will be. Especially, like, the first guest next. Let's make a prediction. That would be fun.

[Jackie]

Oprah. Oh, like, she. Megan did Oprah. A huge solid. Like, anyone could have. Anyone would have wanted that interview. She could have gone to any publication. It was huge for Oprah. Huge for Megan, too. But at the time, she could have gone anywhere. And I don't know if Oprah has paid her back yet.

[Claudia]

That's so true. That's a really good one. That would be newsworthy.

[Jackie]

That would be good, too. And they could talk about the interview and the fallout. Like, that would be interesting.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Yeah. That would be worth it for sure.

[Jackie]

You want to put in your prediction?

[Claudia]

I would like to put in a prediction. Okay.

[Jackie]

We need to make an app. You know how, like, Jake, Paul and like, Barstool, they have, like, betting sports apps.

[Claudia]

Yes.

[Jackie]

We need a betting app on, like, things that we care about. Like, who will be Meghan Markle's first podcast guest?

[Claudia]

Yeah. Female founders, usa. Sorry.

[Jackie]

Oh. Because, you know, that's what her team did.

[Claudia]

So true. Okay. 2024 is most intriguing women entrepreneurs, literally. I feel like I'm rifling through there.

[Jackie]

Or what about, like, Gwyneth?

[Claudia]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Jackie]

Because Gwyneth has a very big wellness company similar to what I think Megan would want to build. Different SKUs, but similar. She also. I feel like they live near each other. They both, like, garden, and they're very green. Goop has a huge podcast, so that would be, like, a good alignment.

[Claudia]

They're almost too similar. They either would get, like. They either. I feel like if they're not as publicly associated yet, that didn't.

[Jackie]

We think that about Poosh and Goop. And then there she was doing a club. I feel like Gwyneth is so successful. Like, nobody can really touch her. And there are a bunch of copycat brands, and that's what Poosh is like from other celebrities. And. And I think Poosh is, like, really actually successful because it's so authentic to Courtney. But it is, like, inspired by. Everyone is inspired by Gwyneth. So when she. When you're at the top, like, you're not easily shooketh.

[Claudia]

You know, I'm gonna go, Emma. Greed is my guess.

[Jackie]

It's a really good guess.

[Claudia]

Except she is British.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God.

[Claudia]

Is she a monarchist or an anarchist?

[Jackie]

Oh, now, now.

[Claudia]

It's getting political, so who knows? But yeah, she's super British.

[Jackie]

That's a good call.

[Claudia]

Okay, we shall see. To be determined April 8th.

[Jackie]

Sound off in the comments.

[Claudia]

April.

[Jackie]

Yeah, edit your list and sound off in the comments. Who do you hope to or think we will see as one of Megan's eight guests on the new Lemonada show Confessions of a Female founder coming to an ipod near you.

[Claudia]

Are you ready for our next story? Yeah, actually, a female founder that she could have on. Wendy Williams is on the View today.

[Jackie]

Yes. I guess Oprah didn't snag that interview. The View got it.

[Claudia]

Wendy Williams wants her guardian to get off her neck. The former daytime talk show host called into the View for a pre taped interview exclusively obtained by Page Six, in which she got candid about her current conservatorship. The interview kicked off with her explaining her hospital visit and her decision to get an independent psych test, which she says she passed with flying colors. Earlier this week. She said, I needed a breath of fresh air. I needed to see the doctor. So that's why I went to the hospital. She said, hold on.

[Jackie]

Honestly, I think the sheer fact that she sat for an interview speaks to her mental capacity. And I know I keep comparing it to Brittany and I'm sorry, but that's really the only frame of reference that we have. And even in the years that Britney's been freed, she's never sat down for an interview because it really requires a lot of like mental fortitude and lucidity.

[Claudia]

Yeah, that.

[Jackie]

I mean, I haven't seen the interview yet and it was just recorded, but sounds like Wendy kind of did.

[Claudia]

Yeah, but it's also pre taped over the phone, so not like entirely like live.

[Jackie]

Oh, I didn't see that over the phone.

[Claudia]

But still, Brittany didn't do a pre taped over the phone. No, of course.

[Jackie]

And the day after she left the facility. Right.

[Claudia]

Wendy said that give Wendy a week.

[Jackie]

And she'll be sitting down with Oprah. Right.

[Claudia]

She said she. And also to get blood work done for her thyroid condition and made it clear it was her choice to get an independent evaluation on her incapacitation. Which I don't have it. How dare they say I have incapacitation. I do not.

[Jackie]

She said she must be so mad.

[Claudia]

I, I can't even imagine.

[Jackie]

And I imagine that comes through on the phone interview because I'm like hearing it even in just like you're paraphrasing to literally have your actual freedom and like stripped from you. Like you're literally stuck. Like it's so crazy. And if it all is what she says it is. And it's not like, you know, this is actually a person suffering from dementia who thinks that they're fine, and it's, you know, it's Afrida McFadden novel.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I was gonna say it's like.

[Jackie]

Yeah. If it is what she's saying it is, who's going to prison? Like, you can't just throw someone in jail and lock a. Throw away the key.

[Claudia]

Yeah, that's very true. There needs to be repercussions. Not to change the subject, but speaking of novels.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claudia]

Did you see the opening scenes of Verity being shot in the streets with Dakota Johnson and Josh Hartnett?

[Jackie]

So I did. It's reminding me of, like, when the first pictures of it ends with us came out. Like, it went so viral negatively, but it was just like, the photos were everywhere. Seeing this book that everyone in America has read come to life, and now these pictures of Dakota Johnson filming in the New York City streets. Now everybody. And I don't want you to tell me, because I did read the book, and everybody's like, oh, I know what scene this is. I know.

[Claudia]

You posted that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. You. Am I. Okay. I have no idea. I thought the book takes place at a house in, like, Connecticut.

[Claudia]

So this is not a spoiler because it's the opening scene of the book.

[Jackie]

I don't really think I want to know. I really want to go in, like, eyes wide open. But everybody, like, I saw all the influencers, like, who read. They were like, not this scene. What the hell are you guys talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to be. You are, like, one of five people that I saw.

[Claudia]

Just so you know, like, I didn't even know Dakota Johnson was in this scene. Movie or. I didn't remember it if I didn't know that. Or Josh Harden. I didn't know they started filming. So I just saw a video of them filming the scene of her and the blood and him. And then.

[Jackie]

So is Dakota the woman who comes.

[Claudia]

Lohan.

[Jackie]

And then Anne Hathaway is the lady upstairs.

[Claudia]

Verity is Anne Hathaway. Verity, yeah. Okay, then. Yeah. I thought they would both be blonde.

[Jackie]

I thought Verity was blonde. She could be. I mean, I didn't see Anne Hathaway, but, like.

[Claudia]

No, but I think also the thing is, maybe subliminally is that they look alike and they.

[Jackie]

Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. I love Dakota Johnson.

[Claudia]

I don't know if I. Amanda Seyfried and Sydney Sweeney for Housemaid, they needed the brunette version.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I Don't know if I knew consciously that Dakota Johnson was in this movie.

[Claudia]

That's why. That's what I'm saying. I didn't know consciously. So I saw a video of her in the street with the blood in the traffic and him whisting her away, and I knew exactly what movie they were shooting and what scene this is and thought I was.

[Jackie]

I'm sad that I didn't have that same experience. I have. No, I read the book so long ago. I have no idea.

[Claudia]

It is the opening scene of the book. Before, Think about.

[Jackie]

Before she moves in.

[Claudia]

Think about why she moves in. Let's rewind.

[Jackie]

I thought she got a job.

[Claudia]

To do what?

[Jackie]

To write?

[Claudia]

Right. So just.

[Jackie]

You know what? You know what? I really do want to be surprised. Okay.

[Claudia]

But for any of you who didn't read Verity, I know you also, unfortunately.

[Jackie]

And I'm sure you'll see the movie. It's very good. Verity. Good.

[Claudia]

Yeah, it is good. So I'm excited.

[Jackie]

And it must be nice for Colleen Hoover to have movie, like photos from her movie leaked and then be received positively positive because I never happened to her. Yeah. He's just me, like, what is this feeling so sudden and new for Colleen?

[Claudia]

Yeah. Hopefully she's entering a new phase of, like, positive book adaptation.

[Jackie]

And, you know, I only recently saw Pearl harbor for the first time, which is where Josh Hartnett got his start. So, like, now I feel really invested.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Jury's out on him for the role.

[Jackie]

I agree.

[Claudia]

Like, I. I'm open.

[Jackie]

He is beloved, by the way, like, by the people.

[Claudia]

He was, like, just being in the scene from the videos, like, Jerry's out is all I say.

[Jackie]

I agree. It's important to know, like, we are unique in that take, which is, you know, very on brand for us. America loves him. He is, like, beloved.

[Claudia]

No, no. And I'm not saying, like, he's a. Jury is out. Okay.

[Jackie]

Do you find because this is like a new media, like, new age issue that, like, a movie gets made and we see stills from it? Right. Like, we see the costumes, we see the hair and makeup. Nothing. It's still surprised what happens, but, like, some of the visuals are spoiled. Do you find that to affect the movie watching process, like a spoiler a little bit?

[Claudia]

No. I think it, like, hypes me up. And a few examples of that where my favorite, like, books return and we got photos before was like, Luckiest Girl Alive. That was so hyper.

[Jackie]

That was exciting. And you know what else it was Brie Larson Chemicals.

[Claudia]

Oh, Lessons in chemistry. Yes.

[Jackie]

Lesson. Yes. I remember seeing that and being like, oh, fab. That's exactly how I pictured it.

[Claudia]

And I feel like I remember seeing stills from Confessions of a Shopaholic before it came out. And that's my favorite book and was my favorite movie. And it just got me really excited. So this gets me excited. I mean, it ends with us. Issue was the outlier. Like, usually it's good. That's the only negative experience that I've had where it's like, no, no. You guys cut. Start from the beginning.

[Jackie]

Well, I think about, like. And just like that season two where they brought back Aiden. It was completely spoiled.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

But I guess that's what you get when you shoot on the street. And I feel like they could have avoided that.

[Claudia]

But also, that's not book. His book. Like, we know the story.

[Jackie]

Right, Right, right.

[Claudia]

So.

[Jackie]

But I guess it's just like a teaser of, like, the. The book world come to life teaser.

[Claudia]

Of the world that they're building. And that gets me excited.

[Jackie]

I agree.

[Claudia]

And excitement excites me.

[Jackie]

Why wouldn't it Seems reasonable. A thousand percent.

[Claudia]

Are you ready for our next story? Some TV news.

[Jackie]

Is it three?

[Claudia]

It's three.

[Jackie]

Okay. Yeah.

[Claudia]

Ted Lasso season four is a go with Jason Sudeikis and a women's team. Juno Temple is in negotiations to join the returning cast as the Apple series heads to Kansas. So this is, like, exciting and annoying because Ted Lasso just ended and it was very bittersweet. And the whole season was like a big farewell and I love you to Ted Lasso. And that was about two years ago. And now Ted Lasso is coming back.

[Jackie]

For another season and Juno Temple and I said to Google, I just made sure that's Keeley.

[Claudia]

That's Keely. Yeah. And we need Keely.

[Jackie]

We do. I feel like this is kind of weird. I didn't know that this was even up for debate. Like, it definitely felt like the show ended early. But that's, of course, like, the sign of a good show. They're able to, like, tell their story on their own terms, go out on their own terms. So I was sad because I liked the show and, like, when it ended, I was like, oh, that's a show that I'll miss. But I didn't feel, like, wronged or mad. They didn't leave us on a cliffhanger. No.

[Claudia]

In the last season, I found to be really bad. I didn't finish it. Yeah. I found it actually unwatchable. And it came out during a time when I was desperate for tv. It Was like, circlage era, and I could not finish it.

[Jackie]

Well, spoiler alert. He goes back home to Kansas. And so I guess that's where this new show is painted.

[Claudia]

And it's a women's soccer team now.

[Jackie]

Right. Which is very on brand. I also think Jason Sudeikis, a lot of those people in Hollywood, they've all started to, like, own parts of the women's soccer league across the US they're, like, trying to make it a thing. A lot of, like, Eva Longoria, Jennifer Garner are involved in the la. I want to say the Angels is the name of the team. So, like, all the. They're trying to create, like, a big league for women's soccer. So this is obviously, like, propaganda. Not in a bad way. Like, propaganda has a negative connotation, but, like, in service of that. Yeah. Because a lot of celebrities have, like, a big financial stake in women's soccer. For some reason. They've all, like, decided that this is going to be the thing they want to create, like the next NBA.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I don't think that that is a fruitless idea.

[Jackie]

Growing up, like, me neither.

[Claudia]

I was a female soccer player. I love soccer. I love me a ham. Like, bring us back to the.

[Jackie]

And in terms of. Yes. Well, soccer is not an inherently American thing. We happen to be quite good at it as women.

[Claudia]

No, and like, like, women's. U.S. soccer is better than men's.

[Jackie]

Men's.

[Claudia]

It's like, I don't know, gymnastics. I don't know why it shakes out that way, but it does.

[Jackie]

It does. And so. And we have, like, a lot of, like, famous soccer. I don't know one American soccer player who's a man, but I can name, like, 11. Abby Wambach, who, like, you know, who walked on stage with Taylor Swift.

[Claudia]

No, like David Beckham and Lionel Messi came to play.

[Jackie]

No, that doesn't count. Of American descent. Like, the women, I feel like they were just causing drama. Remember we were talking about Ashlyn Harris?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yes. And, like, so I actually follow a bunch of them.

[Claudia]

Yeah, we know them.

[Jackie]

Right. So it's not a bad business venture. And I think, like, bringing in TV because, you know, like, him and Olivia Wilde definitely, like, put money in years ago to, like, one of the LA teams or something.

[Claudia]

Totally. Not to pit, like, women's, like, struggling women's league against struggling women's league, but.

[Jackie]

Like, what does this mean for the wnba?

[Claudia]

Which league do you think has a better chance of success? The WNBA or women's soccer? Us.

[Jackie]

It's a really good Point. I mean, women's soccer has a much harder task because not only do they have to get people to care about women's sports, they also have to get Americans to care about a sport that really doesn't exist. Like the mls. Major League Soccer is like, nobody gives a. Like, remember when in the, in the Beckham documentary, he talks about his time playing on the American team? Like, seriously, there was three people in.

[Claudia]

The sand and like they had full time jobs. Like, this was their like, side hustle hobby soccer.

[Jackie]

And David Beckham's there, like making $100 million. Like, so they have a harder job. Although I do think it's more palatable for Americans. No, maybe not palatable. Maybe like it's been many years of the wnba and yes, people care now this year more. They do Caitlin Clark effect, the Angel Reese. Like, there's a lot going on, but there is a. You have to look as to why people haven't cared up until this point.

[Claudia]

Yeah. No, it's like they've had their shot. Multiple shots, shot hasn't taken.

[Jackie]

I will be very curious to see. I do feel like as Americans, we miss out on the cultural, like, fun of soccer.

[Claudia]

Like, soccer's fun, but we have football and they don't.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claudia]

So, like, I feel like we're actually all set. And I don't know if as a country we could like, take on another sport in such a way. But I also think that these things of, like, getting people to care about things and like building worlds and teams and history, these take years. It's not like women's soccer is just gonna be popular next year and be popular forever. Like, you gotta.

[Jackie]

And maybe that's what the WNBA has been doing and we're just. We're too in it to see.

[Claudia]

Right. We need to zoom out. Like, talk to us in 50 years.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So I think that like the. Even though the last couple of episodes of Ted Lasso weren't good, there is magic there. Right. Like, it's a good formula. The characters are good, the writers are good. This will probably be excellent.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And the premise sounds good. So it's a women's team. He's going back to Kansas. I think Keely might come on and probably his PR girl again. I don't want. I don't want the whole cast. I don't want to name.

[Jackie]

No, I really don't need the assistant coach.

[Claudia]

I don't want to name names, but I don't want everyone. Okay. I just feel like I can't say it.

[Jackie]

I don't like the assistant coach, the bald guy or, like, the guy with the beard. What's his name? Like, eagle. It's like a bird.

[Claudia]

Yeah, yeah. Let me find. I really texted you.

[Jackie]

He was my least favorite. You texted me? Who? You don't. Wait, why? I love her.

[Claudia]

I don't like her anymore. Like, I just. I don't know.

[Jackie]

Wow. I like her, Jackie. Can I put you on the spot and say who it is?

[Claudia]

No. No. Because now I feel like maybe I'm wrong for, like, not wanting you.

[Jackie]

Are. You are. She's like, so, like, what's wrong with her?

[Claudia]

I don't know.

[Jackie]

No, no, she's not Kili. But I also need them to bring back Brett Goldstein, even though he's the writer. Roy. He's the writer on the show, so I'm sure he'll still be, like, involved in the project.

[Claudia]

Yeah, the assistant coach actually, like, doesn't bother.

[Jackie]

No.

[Claudia]

So much. Except he got his own episode and he, like, went on a trip.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. He was, like, walking through the tunnels on drugs.

[Claudia]

Like, really bad.

[Jackie]

Horrible.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Anyways, are you ready for our next story? Some more TV news.

[Jackie]

Is it some more TV news that's brought to you by booking.com. booking.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Is. Is it?

[Claudia]

Yes, of course.

[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

We need kid friendly. We need high chairs.

[Jackie]

So really, no matter who you are and whatever phase of life that you're in, booking.com is the perfect place to book the fabulous vacation of your dreams. So find exactly what you're looking for on booking.com. booking. Yeah.

[Claudia]

And if they have a truck that we could touch, it wouldn't hurt if.

[Jackie]

They'Re hosting Tate events that also. That works.

[Claudia]

Our next story, some more TV news. Because we are Mike tv and we are addicted to the television.

[Jackie]

And I did wonder about this. So when I saw the headline, I wondered, was Jason Isaacs wearing a fake penis? When we saw his penis on Lotus.

[Claudia]

Which we didn't even talk about how he saw his penis. And it turns out it wasn't his penis. It was a prosthetic. So I'm glad we didn't even talk about it because it wasn't his real penis.

[Jackie]

Every time I see a penis on TV and then, like, it doesn't happen a lot. So it's always big news. And then there's always. Was it a prosthetic? Like, remember sex life when he had that big schlong in the shower? They're like, it's a prosthetic. Why? Like, women show their titties and they're not fake.

[Claudia]

No, I didn't even wonder if it was a prosthetic. I was like, oh, there's his penis. And he wanted to show his penis on HBO today. Like. Like, let him.

[Jackie]

I don't know why they get the option to wear a prosthetic. Like, it's.

[Claudia]

It's like, it's.

[Jackie]

That's actually. That needs to be talked about on Confessions of a Female Founder. Like, that's unequal.

[Claudia]

This. If Jason Isaacs doesn't want to show his real penis, can't we just take out that moment? It literally didn't.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

The storyline or anything at all.

[Jackie]

And it was actually kind of random.

[Claudia]

It's actually not like, all worthy that we're looking at a part. Like, it was shocking that he showed us his penis and. Okay, doesn't move the storyline. But that. That's classic hbo. But you're not even showing us his penis. So what. What is this? Prosthetic serve.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, it's an amazing point. They should have kept this secret in the vault because you're right, it was so not Germane. To the storyline. Like, and it actually is kind of not on brand for the dad, who's, like, this very buttoned up, tailored guy. So it was this random thing. And for it all to have been fake in service of what?

[Claudia]

Right, like, not necessary at all. It was like, I'm more focused on.

[Jackie]

The fact that, like, when there's nudity on a woman, like, we've never seen a fake, like, boob, right? They're not wearing breastplates. They're bit. They're tits. Yeah. Tushies.

[Claudia]

We see tissues, but boobs are like penis and vagina. Vagina to penis. That's.

[Jackie]

No, I'm sorry. It's not the same because men know.

[Claudia]

That you don't feel that way, and I don't feel that way either. But, like, that's just.

[Jackie]

What if a man does nudity, it's penis. If a woman does nudity, there are multiple options, right? There's breasts, there's tushy, there's vagina. Why? Like this? I need the intimacy coordinators and, like, the women's rights movements. I need them to get on this. Why do you get the option to do nudity? And if you don't do nudity as a woman, like, you're penalized, right? Like, it's a. You lose roles. And if you're a man, like, you just slap on a prosthetic if you're not comfortable showing penis.

[Claudia]

I don't think. I don't know.

[Jackie]

That's actually the definition of inequality.

[Claudia]

So you don't. You want to cage the nipple again?

[Jackie]

I didn't say that.

[Claudia]

You don't want.

[Jackie]

Once again, your interpretation of my words is merely a reflection of your thoughts.

[Claudia]

I literally didn't even share my thoughts on this. I hadn't spoken yet. You want to cage the next.

[Jackie]

I didn't say catch a nipple.

[Claudia]

You guys are gonna.

[Jackie]

I didn't say that.

[Claudia]

She's flipping.

[Jackie]

Okay. By the way, big talker, what are your thoughts?

[Claudia]

I don't see a need for any of it. Man, woman, nothing.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claudia]

Keep your junk in your pants. Keep your shirt on. It's just a show.

[Jackie]

Keep your dong in your jeans.

[Claudia]

And you know what? If you want to have the balls to show us your dong, better be the real thing.

[Jackie]

It's so true. We want full frontal.

[Claudia]

Except Jason Isaacs is my king. And what? I'm so glad he did the prosthetic. That was so the right move for him. He's so smart and brilliant.

[Jackie]

No. Yeah. Nothing but love and respect for our Thomas Ravenel. We're not speaking ill of him. We're just talking about the industry as. As in a general sense.

[Claudia]

And let's talk about a prosthetic penis that really looked like a real penis. What is the journey of that thing? Like, does it lay on the prop table next to craft services?

[Jackie]

I bet they keep it in, like, a warm climate so that when you slip it on, it's, like, not freezing. Kind of how? Like, the gel at the doctor for the ultrasound, they keep it in the warmer. Yeah, maybe they. Maybe they keep it in, like, a prosthetic warmer.

[Claudia]

No, see, like, all of that, that's, like, budget not necessary.

[Jackie]

And then the intimacy coordinator's job is to, like, physically, I think, put it.

[Claudia]

On, and she, like, walking around with this little case of penis, and she's, like, coming through. Coming through.

[Jackie]

Yeah, and she definitely walks around also with, like, a fanny pack full of, like, different cosmetics needed. Like, some powder if the penis is shiny. Maybe scissors to, like, trim the pubes.

[Claudia]

And I don't want to put anyone out of a job ever. Right, but that's not needed.

[Jackie]

Agreed.

[Claudia]

Is what I'm saying. That part of the job.

[Jackie]

Agreed.

[Claudia]

But intimacy coordinator. Of course. I'm not a monster. No, she wouldn't ever. I've take SAG Aftra more seriously than anyone.

[Jackie]

I have. Like, we've spoken more about intimacy coordinators in the last year than, like, any two people.

[Claudia]

Should we need to interview an intimacy coordinator.

[Jackie]

I don't follow.

[Claudia]

Who was also a female founder.

[Jackie]

Well, I guess all female intimacy coordinators are female founders.

[Claudia]

Well, not if they're, like, contractors for a larger intimacy coordination company.

[Jackie]

Oh, that's true. But maybe, like, they founded the company of intimacy.

[Claudia]

We need to talk to the founder.

[Jackie]

Yeah, only if she's a female.

[Claudia]

She is only a female.

[Jackie]

Correct. If you're, like, a man in your job as an intimacy coordinator, like, okay, creep, creep.

[Claudia]

These are women's issues.

[Jackie]

Agreed. Right.

[Claudia]

It's women who suffer on sets.

[Jackie]

So true.

[Claudia]

And you want to be like, I'm sorry. If I were a naked actress and my intimacy coordinator were a man, I'd.

[Jackie]

Say, please leave 1,000%.

[Claudia]

There are some jobs that are only for women.

[Jackie]

Masseuse, pilot for women, Dr. President.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. She's going to Lemonada.

[Jackie]

And, of course, the founder of Lemonada.

[Claudia]

Tardy cracked me up.

[Jackie]

Thanks.

[Claudia]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is more TV news?

[Jackie]

Is it about the brilliant advice Chet Hanks received from his father, Tom?

[Claudia]

Yes, but it's also about how you've been Duped a little bit by this story. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Because you. By the way, I only read the headline before I sent it to you.

[Claudia]

So let me read you the story. I want to show you the insidious.

[Jackie]

Way that they report Hollywood is so sinister.

[Claudia]

Headline. Chet Hanks reveals the acting advice dad Tom gave him to prepare for Running Point. Okay, click.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Chad Hanks.

[Jackie]

Easy. Click.

[Claudia]

Chet Hanks turned to his award winning father Tom Hanks for acting tips ahead of his breakout role in Netflix's new hit show Running Point. Quote, I've always asked him for advice when it comes to acting and he's always given me really great advice. The rising star told Page Six exclusively at the 2024 MTV Video Music Awards last September.

[Jackie]

But they wrote the article yesterday.

[Claudia]

But they wrote the article yesterday about, about an interview that they did last September that they're recycling.

[Jackie]

Oh, this is so insidious.

[Claudia]

Sinister. Chet shared that Tom told him three key things he has to do to be successful in Hollywood. It's not even advice on, it's just advice in the business.

[Jackie]

I'm completely uninterested in the rest of the story. I thought it was like actual advice about this project and I was interested in it because I have felt like for years that there has to be like some bad blood between Tom and Chet. Like when you think of Tom's kids.

[Claudia]

I thought Tom, Chet was on the outs.

[Jackie]

Right. Like when you think about how his family might have like really been upset with him about a lot of his like public facing behavior over the years compared to his brother, who's the other one? Colin Hanks.

[Claudia]

Colin. And he so buttoned up.

[Jackie]

Oh my God, he's so buttoned up. He gets all the good roles. Like how behaved. Right. He's very well behaved. So I feel like Chet has been the bad egg and I could see like Rita and Tom being like annoyed with him. So the fact that Tom was giving him advice on Running Point, you know.

[Claudia]

What the headline years had to speak.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But they. This is a year ago. Who knows?

[Claudia]

This is from September. And also here is the advice which by the way is just general acting advice and not specific to Running Point. He just said, quote, if you know, if you just know your lines and you show up on time and you're nice to everybody, that gets you a long way.

[Jackie]

Okay. Privilege, like bare minimum, do less.

[Claudia]

So that's like not advice. That's the obvious.

[Jackie]

Can I tell you though that his job.

[Claudia]

Do the job and show up.

[Jackie]

Right. Thanks, Captain Obvious.

[Claudia]

Maybe they don't speak.

[Jackie]

Right. Well, the second half of the series actually he takes on a little bit of like a darker up until this point. He's like a funny haha. But something happens where he's like struggling and he has. And he's actually like a very dynamic actor. He really crushed it. Like, that's one of my biggest takeaways from the show is get Chet Hanks more roles.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I'm so in agreement. And the show already is getting a second season. Unclear if he's in it, but if you just finish it, would that like poison to be in it?

[Jackie]

He. It could go either way.

[Claudia]

Oh, he's either like on the team or not on the team.

[Jackie]

No, he's like struggling with something personally. So like maybe he just like quits or he comes back, you know.

[Claudia]

Yeah, understood. So that's the stories that you needed to know.

[Jackie]

I would say four out of five you needed to know. Not last year's news from the MTV video.

[Claudia]

But I do think the let the lesson in media literacy was important.

[Jackie]

Hugely important. And I'm glad that you didn't swap out the story once you realized it was a fake.

[Claudia]

No, I think it's so important. I love that we've started calling out like, like these journals.

[Jackie]

Inconsistencies.

[Claudia]

No. And also like the former singer slash turd.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Well, also, when I was looking for stories on page six, it was like, here are all the couples expecting in 2025. And like it was really Z list. Like they had. No.

[Claudia]

But you're such a page Six darling.

[Jackie]

I know. What the hell. Like, they went out of their way because they had really like bottom of the barrel peeps. People I didn't even hear. I haven't even heard of.

[Claudia]

That's really. It's obviously an oversight, like, just to hurt you.

[Jackie]

Yes, yes. Since the last time I look for stories because I'm trying to help and I catch a stray.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Oh, I feel like I have the opposite experience where I'm looking for stories like, hey, there's my sister. Oh, there's my brother in law.

[Jackie]

That's nice. That's nice.

[Claudia]

Oh, there's my friends.

[Jackie]

Shall we dive into Queenie and Weenie, our final segment of the week?

[Claudia]

Yeah, we should.

[Jackie]

So Queenie and Weenie, you guys. A tale as old as time. Every Friday, Jack and I like to wrap up the week in a little bow with a segment we call Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. And it's Jackie and I sharing someone who we thought to be Queenie this week and somebody who acted like a weenie. And again, it's not that serious. It's a seven day title. You can be queenie one week, we need the next. It's never happened, but it is possible. Would you like to go first? And should we do queenie or weenie?

[Claudia]

Let me open up. We go queenie first. And I'm sure there's like a more obvious Queenie of the week, but for some reason my mind keeps going to maybe Funky who has brought me so much joy this week and laughter. And I'm just really here for the renaissance of maybe Fume. K. I'm so down, if that's okay with you. I know it's a little rogue.

[Jackie]

It's totally fine. I'm just now realizing I chose two weenies instead of a queenie and a weenie.

[Claudia]

So kosher. So.

[Jackie]

Okay. Because I do have two weenies.

[Claudia]

Okay. Share your first one.

[Jackie]

The first weenie is the San Francisco 49ers. Like, I think it was really not a smart move to drop my boyfriend Kyle use check. Like, I just, I don't like that. That.

[Claudia]

Okay. And then I'll go my first weenie.

[Jackie]

And then also I said that because it was a jumping off point. Are you. I actually meant to talk to you about this offline. Are you familiar with any of like the, the wag drama going on in the 49ers?

[Claudia]

I saw we were being accused of burying it. I. I have not. It has not reached my desk.

[Jackie]

It had. It's actually ongoing. I had heard about it like a year ago. And the weird part is like, you know, Fred Warner is. He's like a big player on the 49ers.

[Claudia]

I do know that he is engaged or married to a woman who is an influencer. And she was low key on the Bachelor and she does.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claudia]

And she's like, you know, a girly. And she's not with the other girly. Please.

[Jackie]

Okay. So Fred Warner's, I think, wife, they have a baby together. City Warner. Yeah, she was on the Bachelor and then just like happened to have like a successful career as an influencer. Married. And he's really good. So, like, she's really popular. And there's like a noticeable, like, schism up until this point between her and the other wives. Like when you think of all the girlies, they're always together.

[Claudia]

And even when Olivia joined the team, like immediately she was in with the gals. Like, they're obviously a welcoming bunch and they love an influencer.

[Jackie]

And like, over the years she has, like, posted things that, like, led people to believe she really dislikes Kristen. Use check. And on Monday, when it was announced that Kyle was released, like, Everybody on the 49ers, all the other players, all the other wags are posting, like, crying, kyle, we love you. Pictures of Kyle from the last 10 years. Sydney starts posting. What an amazing, beautiful day. Is this the most amazing Monday you've ever seen in your whole fucking life? I love Monday, like, really, like, very obviously being like, oh, Kyle was dropped. Kristen's leaving the team. I love it.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And there's a lot of speculation about what the beef is. Nobody knows. People are just, like, guessing online. But a lot of people thought that was really kind of, you know, telling tasteless to celebrate the man losing his job. And that's why I chose the 49ers as my weenie, because I just wanted to tell you that.

[Claudia]

Got it. That's crazy. I wonder what happened between the two of them. And also it's like, okay, so things worked out for her because she doesn't want to be out in Christmas. And you check, like, take the win and shut up.

[Jackie]

Be right.

[Claudia]

Be the big beacious. Like, just be happy privately. And, like, things are looking up for you for whatever reason. Like, now you've just made yourself look like an arse.

[Jackie]

The villain.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I can't imagine what the beef is. Like, Kristen gets along with everyone.

[Jackie]

So the streets and the Internet, which they have no proof. They say it's like a disagreement on politics.

[Claudia]

Who's. What?

[Jackie]

Well, they said that Sydney is more liberal. And then like, some of the other wags, Kristen included, are more conservative. They have no proof of that. That's just like, what.

[Claudia]

Love to say that, like, about everything.

[Jackie]

It's giving Florida Georgia Line.

[Claudia]

It's everyone's go to, you know, it's giving Becca and Garrett.

[Jackie]

Yes, but. But Becky and Garrett. That was the case with Florida.

[Claudia]

Georgia was the case.

[Jackie]

Correct, sister.

[Claudia]

Sister. No, I don't. Because. Because even if the wags are, like, conservative leaning, they don't post anything. Like, if they were so extreme, like, they would post even a little bit more. I don't think it's like their whole personalities.

[Jackie]

No, but we really. We have no. We have nothing to go on here. So I think that's like, a lot of people's natural inclination is just to.

[Claudia]

Be like, yeah, that's their favorite. That is always a good one. Like Sarah and Ben.

[Jackie]

Correct. Which leads me to my second weenie of the week. Thank you so much. Just this entire season of Love is blind. And I guess in a small way, I need to make myself the weenie of the week, because I know a lot of our listeners only started picking up this season because it probably sounded really funny and interesting based on my funny and interesting recaps. Like, how many. How much did we laugh over the last month? Like, if I was listening to a show, I'd say, oh, I would watch Love is Blind, and the whole thing was full of losers. And I felt like a loser just watching it. With the reunion that we recapped on Monday. Yeah. Everything was. Was truly the definition of weenielicious loser sneeze. So I would say love is blind season, whatever. Minnesota season. And The San Francisco 49ers are my weenies of the week. I'm sorry. No, Queenie this week. Not my fault. Everybody was acting like a weenie.

[Claudia]

Say about the state of the world.

[Jackie]

Correct. Who's your Winnie?

[Claudia]

My Winnie of the week is James Kennedy, obviously.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

[Claudia]

Requires no explanation.

[Jackie]

Agreed.

[Claudia]

Behaved in a weedy, like fashion in all seasons of his week.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. Wait, we didn't even talk about. Kelly Clarkson's new song with Rascal Flats came out today. I'm moving on.

[Claudia]

I'm sorry. I bet they been inside of a truck.

[Jackie]

Yeah, okay.

[Claudia]

Oh, my God. I'm sorry.

[Jackie]

No, no.

[Claudia]

We have to listen. Unless we're.

[Jackie]

The Rascal Flats album that we spoke about at the beginning of the week, it hasn't come out yet. I think they're releasing song by song.

[Claudia]

And this morning, they released Kelly is my release Raider. It's right here. I didn't even get to see my release Raider, so we were listening to.

[Jackie]

Paw Patrol in the car, moving on cover of Rascal Flats with Kelly Clarkson. I would love to hear your thoughts. Let me say my thoughts really quickly.

[Claudia]

Like, can I just take off my helmet because.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take your helmet off. Take your helmet off. I just want to say it's so good. I love the song. I'm moving on, but I really. I could have used more of a duet. It's basically a Kelly Clarkson cover, which I'm, of course, never complaining about. But the fun was that, like, they would be collaborating, and it's pretty much Kelly the whole time, and then, like, Gary at the end. There's never really any point in the song where they're singing together. I feel like they weren't even in the same room and they didn't, like, harmonize with another. I was looking for more, like, pargy harmonies and the blending of vocals, and I didn't really get that. I just got, like, a beautiful Kelly Clarkson cover is still good. Obviously, it's like the best song I've heard this year, but that's it. All right, Jackie, look alive. We're good. Put your help. Put your helmet back on.

[Claudia]

So funny. We're athletes. What can I say? This is a full context, correct?

[Jackie]

That is our show.

[Claudia]

That's our show I have to go listen to. I'm moving on. So I'm moving on from this show.

[Jackie]

Thank you so much. An hour seven. Like, very normal for us, but it's.

[Claudia]

Very narafi these days to do an hour.

[Jackie]

There's like, literally someone at my door. I have to go. Hello.

[Claudia]

Oh, maybe it's your boy.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm having wallpaper install, but in 30 minutes.

[Claudia]

Maybe he's early because he's excited to work with you.

[Jackie]

Jackie's coming to town in a few weeks, so I'm getting our second studio set up. Set up where we can record together in person in a party. There won't be frames, so everyone can just, like, unclench.

[Claudia]

Everyone will be very upset, and they'll obviously be like, something missing in the air.

[Jackie]

Maybe it's here early, so I gotta go. Thank you so much for listening to the trust. And then I want to share with you the fastest stories for watching us on YouTube. Please don't subscribe. Give this video thumbs up. We're also available as podcast, podcast, Spotify public video. I already cast box all the place and podcast about a beautiful setting and goodly talented we are.

[Claudia]

Love you.

[Jackie]

Bye.