Fiddler on The Toast: Friday, May 1st, 2026

Summary

The Toast - “Fiddler on The Toast” (Friday, May 1st, 2026)

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Episode Date: May 1, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lighthearted, pop-culture-packed Friday episode, Jackie and Claudia open up about their busy social lives, upcoming events, and recent pop culture happenings. They deep-dive into the logistics of hosting a community Shabbat, muse about social media habits and gift-giving, dissect the latest entertainment news (including "The Crown" spinoffs, Taylor Swift rumors, celebrity breakups, and more), and wrap up with an animated breakdown of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. The duo’s signature banter and sharp, comical takes keep the episode engaging throughout, with a recurring theme of Jewish identity and sisterhood humor woven in.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekend Plans and LGSA Shabbat

• Claudia shares her hosting plans: an LGBTQ Shabbat gathering, joking it’s “LGSA”—Lesbian, Gays, Satchel (herself), and Allies.
  • Quote [01:09]: “I'm a but for Ally.” (Claudia)
• Both hosts lament their packed social calendars—multiple events in a row leave them exhausted.
  • Quote [02:15]: "After these four nights, it's killing me. I feel like I'm at Stagecoach. Like I'm at a four day rave." (Claudia)
• Jackie discusses attending dinner parties and making unexpected connections—like bonding with a stay-at-home dad and “enormous Swifty” named Michael, who doesn’t have Instagram, leading to a chat about friends who avoid social media.

2. Watching TV as a Podcast & Dear Media IRL

• Claudia describes watching “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” reunion as background audio and suggests reunions can function as podcasts.

  • Quote [04:39]: “A reunion is a podcast. A reunion is just about talking. The visuals of the show...important when you’re watching the season. But a reunion is a podcast.” (Jackie)

• The sisters hype their upcoming live show in NYC for Dear Media IRL. The event promises collaborations and a possible public “burying of the hatchet” with fellow podcasters, adding a comedic, wrestling-style ("WWE Showdown") flavor to the night.

  • Jackie's playful anxiety about not being as slender as she'd like for the live show.
  • Quote [07:16]: "How much weight can I lose in two weeks? Like, probably £4. Max. Yeah, max."

3. Gift-Giving Philosophy & Friendship Dynamics

• Discussion about birthday presents in long-term relationships—Jackie asserts that they don't do gifts anymore ("presence is insane").
  • Exploring the idea of “thoughtful gifting” (olive oil, pepper grinders, art pieces inspired by friends).
• Claudia and Jackie playfully argue about the emotional value attached to a sweatshirt—riffing the King Solomon baby division fable to comedic effect.
  • Quote [13:35]: “That’s how I feel. Like, this judgment’s coming down!” (Jackie, about splitting the sweatshirt)

4. Pop Culture Pulse & Speculation

The Devil Wears Prada Sequel (“Barbenheimer-level” Hype)

• Both express excitement for the new Devil Wears Prada movie, placing bets on its opening weekend box office via Polymarket.
  • Quote [10:52]: "Well, I'm gonna contribute. I think it's more lgsa. Like, you can count us in for like a hundred dollars." (Claudia)
  • Jackie takes an outlier view—predicting $100 million: “That’s classic me.”

The Return of “The Crown” (Spin-Off)

• News that Netflix is developing a “Crown” prequel set post-Queen Victoria, delving into royal succession history. Both hosts geek out over the period’s rich storytelling potential and how royal TV has taught them real history.
  • Quote [38:13]: “People were even, like me, obsessed with The Crown. It was just an amazing show and the fact that it was based on real life was even better.” (Claudia)

Celebrity Romance & Parenting

• Pete Davidson and Elsie Hewitt are reportedly “working through relationship issues” just five months after welcoming a baby.
  • Jackie and Claudia argue that breaking up soon after childbirth (except in extreme circumstances) “should be illegal.”
  • They note the increasing trend of quick celeb breakups post-baby, listing Cardi B/Offset and others.

Relationship News: Brooks Nader and Taron Egerton

• Discussion of Brooks and Taron’s romantic trip to Australia, with Jackie noting she’s on Brooks’ close friends Instagram story.
• They muse on Taron’s attractiveness, newfound through paparazzi shots; Jackie expresses jealousy at Nader's busy schedule and makes tongue-in-cheek predictions about the relationship.

Taylor Swift’s Toy Story Tease

• Swifties lose it over a brief “Toy Story” style countdown on Taylor’s website, with theories about a possible Toy Story 5 song. Both hosts are skeptical about overusing the countdown strategy and playfully brainstorm a version of "Tim McGraw" re-written for Buzz Lightyear.

Actress Career Advice Backlash: Emily Blunt

• Emily Blunt faces backlash for offering “quit your job” advice to women who hate their work. Jackie/Claudia roll their eyes at the internet mobbing—arguing no answer would have been accepted.
  • Quote [58:23]: “No matter what she said, people weren’t going to want the advice because, like, it’s coming from a place of privilege.” (Claudia)

Emma Grede, Moms & Balance

• Debate over Emma Grede’s confession that she spends three hours a week with her children. Nuanced discussion ensues about ambitious mothers, “following your dreams” narratives, and TikTok discourse.

5. “Fiddler on the Roof” Recast & Jewish Identity

• Comedic fantasy-casting of a new "Fiddler on the Roof" movie with celebrities like Jack Black, Adam Sandler, and Lea Michele playing all roles; discussion of proper Jewish musical “vibes,” potential composers (Pasek and Paul, David Foster), and the iconic scores of John Williams.
  • Quote [25:28]: “When I tell you there is no show funnier than this one...it's insane how good the show is.” (Claudia, on their riffing)
• The segment is full of inside jokes and comedic cultural references, mixing real Hollywood insights with parody.

6. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills S13 Reunion (Part 2) Breakdown

• Recap and opinion exchange about the RHOBH reunion:
  • Sutton and Jennifer Tilly’s friendship dynamic and the surprising apology order.
  • Greater understanding of Kyle and Mauricio’s strange divorce limbo and finances—a nuanced take on Kyle’s career and contribution to Mauricio’s success.
    • Quote [65:56]: “The agency would not be the agency if he were not married to Kyle. Beverly Hills, period.”
  • Amanda Francis’ CMO controversies and Amanda-related drama: skepticism about her explanations, use of ChatGPT for career verification, and whether her online courses are “grift” or empowerment.
  • The hosts’ appreciation for Amanda’s self-awareness and willingness to apologize, contrasted with Dorit’s refusal to own minor faults (like chronic lateness).
  • Commentary on cast members’ looks (Kyle, Erica, Sutton).
  • Overall, the season’s reunion is fun, if not a must-watch, but the sisters lament the trend of overstuffed, multi-part reunion episodes.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• [01:09] Claudia on her “LGSA Shabbat”: "Oh yeah. What am I? I'm just sort of. I'm a but for Ally."
• [02:15] Claudia after four nights out: "After these four nights, it's killing me. I feel like I'm at Stagecoach. Like I'm at a four day rave."
• [04:39] Jackie on Bravo reunions: "A reunion is a podcast. A reunion is just about talking."
• [10:52] Claudia on Devil Wears Prada’s box office: "Count us in for like a hundred dollars."
• [13:35] Jackie on the sweatshirt dispute: "That’s how I feel. Like, this judgment’s coming down!"
• [18:04] Jackie, parodying toxic true crime: "I don't know if TikTok's gonna end the murder epidemic."
• [25:28] Claudia, on their imaginary Fiddler movie: "When I tell you there is no show funnier than this one...it's insane how good the show is."
• [38:13] Claudia, The Crown: “People were even, like me, obsessed…an amazing show and the fact that it was based on real life was even better.”
• [58:23] Claudia, Emily Blunt career advice backlash: “No matter what she said, people weren’t going to want the advice because, like, it’s coming from a place of privilege.”
• [65:56] Claudia, on Kyle’s stake in Mauricio’s success: “The agency would not be the agency if he were not married to Kyle. Beverly Hills, period.”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:39–01:30: LGBTQ Shabbat/party plans
• 01:52–03:53: Dinner party stories, social battery, private friends/no Instagram
• 04:14–05:09: Watching Housewives as ‘audio’ content
• 06:10–07:17: Dear Media IRL live event preview
• 10:01–11:14: “Devil Wears Prada” sequel buzz, box office betting
• 13:35–14:22: Sweatshirt “King Solomon” debate
• 24:03–26:47: Fantastical “Fiddler on the Roof” recasting
• 35:06–39:08: “The Crown” spinoff excitement and royal history
• 44:28–46:07: Pete Davidson/Elsie Hewitt relationship woes, post-baby breakups
• 53:03–54:27: Taylor Swift “Toy Story” countdown, pop music in kid movies
• 58:12–59:16: Emily Blunt’s “quit your job” advice backlash
• 65:23–66:55: RHOBH reunion: Kyle and Mauricio divorce/finances/deeper analysis
• 70:03–73:48: Amanda Francis CMO controversy, ChatGPT discourse
• 76:13–77:31: Dorit’s lateness, apologies, group dynamics

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Tone & Style

Jackie and Claudia keep the conversation bubbly, irreverent, self-aware, and filled with inside jokes. Their banter blends pop culture expertise with sisterly ribbing and sharp, observational comedy, especially on topics of Jewish identity, femininity, reality TV absurdity, and celebrity culture.

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Conclusion

This episode is quintessential “Toast”: a fast-paced, personality-driven, joke-stacked blend of social diaries and crisp pop culture commentary for listeners who want a smart, funny, and comprehensive pop culture download—rooted in the Oshry sisters’ unique comedic viewpoint and genuine friendship.

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Perfect for anyone eager to stay up to date with celebrity news, reality TV recaps, and the nuances of sisterly life, without having to scroll TikTok or watch endless Housewives reunions themselves.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[B]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

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It's your favorite show.

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The best five things you need to know.

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We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[B]

They sound amazing.

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Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Varia. Hey Jax, how you doing during.

[B]

Good. It's Friday. It's a jam packed day for me though, so I feel like it won't be Friday until like 5 o'. Clock. You know, I feel that.

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I feel that 100. I'm actually hosting LGBTQ Shabbat tonight. I invited a bunch of people over for Shabbat and then I realized like every single one of them is gay.

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IA

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no, this particular group is just lg, if I'm being honest.

[B]

So no BTQ immunity.

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As far as I know, the BTQ community is not showing up.

[B]

So it's just lg. Shabbat.

[A]

Look, lg, it's actually lgs. Shabbat. Lesbian Gays and Satchel.

[B]

Lesbian Gays. And. And you.

[A]

Oh yeah. What am I? I'm just sort of. I'm a but for Ally.

[B]

Oh, so you are a. So you did.

[A]

But A is LGBTQIA is for asexual

[B]

plus plus, so don't forget that. Okay, so it's an LGSA affair.

[A]

Like it's an LGSA community event.

[B]

So who's attending?

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Just like members of the community, you know. What would you know about that?

[B]

Is it just like. So it's Brian and the Taylors.

[A]

No, Brian's in Paris. It's Joey and the Taylors.

[B]

Joey and the Taylors. That's fun.

[A]

And Joy's boyfriend who I've never met.

[B]

Oh yeah, that is fun.

[A]

There's so many things I need to tell you.

[B]

Okay,

[A]

two things. Well, I don't even know where to start. First of all, I like left the house last night. I'm feeling my. I'm going out. I'm now having four nights in a row of like having to leave the house. Two nights ago I had my Mahjong party, which was so fun. Last night I had a dinner party at my friend Brian and Jake's apartment. Tonight I'm having my Shabbat. Tomorrow night I'm going out for dinner. And like, I just want to say after this, like these four nights, it's killing me. I feel like I'm at Stagecoach. Like I'm at a four day rape.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I can't. I never want to leave the house again. I'm exhausted.

[B]

I know. I'm going out to dinner tonight and tomorrow night because it's my husband's birthday weekend and like, oh, my gosh.

[A]

Exhausting.

[B]

Yeah. I need to prep.

[A]

And I went to a dinner party last night where I really didn't know any of the other guests aside from the host and, like, one other person.

[B]

Battery was at 100 and I unfortunately

[A]

got seated next to somebody. Like, they knew what they were doing. When they sat me next to him, like, this is the person I was meant to sit next to. Like a stay at home dad of three, an enormous swifty. His name was Michael. He was so handsome. He was sitting between Ben and I and he was also, like, almost like on track to be like an Olympic bobsledder. So, like, Ben was obsessed. His favorite movie is Cool Runnings. Like, this guy, he said he felt like he was an airplane sitting in the middle seat because he was like, me and Ben were like, fighting over him.

[B]

That's so funny. Where was his wife?

[A]

Husband across. You know, they separated couples when people do that at dinner parties, like, I can't lie, I hate it. Although I understand that, that it's effective. And look at me, I'm sitting here talking about the guy I sat next to. Like, I was so dazzled by him. But, like, you know, when you don't know everyone, you're just like, can I just please sit next to the one person I know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of work to meet new people, but the payoff is big when done, right?

[A]

No, I kind of made like, a best friend. And then when I was like, wanting to connect, I'm like, what's your Instagram? He was like, I don't have one.

[B]

Wow. Opposite attract.

[A]

Yeah, I guess.

[B]

You know, I feel like you are drawn to private people in, in terms of, like, your actual friendships outside of influencer friendships.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know most of my, like, people in my life are just normal, like, private Instagrams.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But no Instagram is crazy.

[B]

Yeah. We have a friend with no Instagram right now. She listens to the toast, though.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I think it's so crazy. She loves the toast. She's obsessed with pop culture and she, like, decided to delete her Instagram two years ago. And I don't even know how she knows what we're talking about half the time.

[B]

She said she's always on Tick Tock, so, like, it's the same thing. That's like, that's like me not having TikTok, but I'm always on Instagram. True.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

It's not like that virtuous, but it's pretty cool.

[A]

So, Natalie, was that the first thing I had to tell you? The second Tim, I did something crazy this morning. Crack crazier. Meth crazier. I watched the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills on my phone. Like, I was getting ready, I was walking around. But I couldn't watch last night because, like I said, I had a dinner party.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I was, like, getting ready, I was doing my clothes, I was giving breakfast. And so I just, like, had it on sort of like a podcast.

[B]

I want to say, typically, that might not be the greatest idea, but for a reunion. A reunion is a podcast. A reunion is just about talking. Like, the visuals of the show and the season and the side glances and everything is important when you're watching the season. But a reunion is a podcast.

[A]

Absolutely. And I watched it in the car, and then I watched the last 10 minutes. The second, like, as I sat down here, I completed it and I did my homework for the day. Highly recommend.

[B]

Yeah. For a reunion, that is appropriate, actually, I watched as well. So we'll recap at the end of the show.

[A]

Do you feel like you miss me?

[B]

I always miss you, Kojerner, but, you know, I can't really. I can't miss you too much because it hurts too much, you know?

[A]

Absolutely. And we will be reading. We actually have a couple of things together for. We're coming to town.

[B]

I'm coming to New York City to the Big Apple in a few weeks.

[A]

Jackson is coming. It's out. Oh, yeah. Jackson Glad is coming to town. Jackson Claude is coming to town.

[B]

Yes. I'm coming to the Big Apple in a few weeks for Dear Media irl. That's now, by the way, you guys, it's May today.

[A]

It's gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna. It's gonna be like.

[B]

That just snuck up on us. And starting a new month. Friday is crazy work.

[A]

It's wrong.

[B]

It's crazy work. So now it's May, and Dear Media IRL is in May. So I'm coming to New York this month in two weeks to see my sister, to see the swirlies do a live showing.

[A]

We're performing. We're performing.

[B]

We're doing a live show at Dear Media irl. Some of our fellow podcasters will be there.

[A]

The lineup, I believe the whole evening is hosted by, like, literally the go to host of Dear Media, Taylor's Trucker. And the lineup is not skinny but not fat. Everyone's doing, like, a little live podcast. The good Guys, Nismaneff, Guga, and the Toast. And we are currently, like, you know, in like, this planning phase creatively of, like, what we'll be doing for the show. And we are planning sort of a live collaborative event with the good guys. There was talk about burying the hatchet. I haven't agreed to that yet, of course. But we are. We are. It's gonna be live, like, and it's. You just sort of could be there, but the tickets are sold out.

[B]

It could be WWE Showdown. You know, we haven't really programmed Webster Hall.

[A]

Dear Media irl. They should stream it live.

[B]

Yeah. It's gonna be fun. So I'm excited for that. So I will be seeing you soon. To answer whether or not I miss

[A]

you, I haven't really put together that I need to find something to wear.

[B]

I know I was hoping to be a little more slender, but.

[A]

Me as well.

[B]

Alas, no.

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Here we are.

[B]

Alas, no. How much weight can I lose in two weeks? Like, probably £4. Max. Yeah, max. Okay, let's end the show. Let's end the show.

[A]

Max, what are your plans this weekend for Zach's birthday? Did you get him a present?

[B]

No, we don't really do presents anymore. Unless, like, there's.

[A]

I. I think presence is insane.

[B]

Yeah. No, and I've sort of moved on from them, which means. And he was never like, as big on them as I was. So. No, we don't really do presents anymore, but we have like a jam packed, fun family weekend. Like activities, clubs, bus, clambakes, Hyundai Palisade. Another Palisade clambakes party. We're actually having a little soiree. We are.

[A]

Let me guess who's coming. Your neighbors?

[B]

Neighbors, friends, Family. Just like, you know, a little backyard hang.

[A]

Sounds beautiful.

[B]

Yeah. So we have. It's gonna be a very, like, busy on the go weekend and I think fulfilling for my husband.

[A]

That's good. That's good. Do you think I have to get him a present?

[B]

Like, no, but you like. No. No, no, you don't. I never. I didn't get Lish anything.

[A]

You didn't get Lish anything.

[B]

But I've. Oh, I'm actually, like, not always, but I often get Lish something, like whenever I see something.

[A]

Except not a hug.

[B]

Not a hug. Please know thyself. Whenever I see something that, like, I think Lish would like, I get it for him. Oh, I remember two years ago, I got him a nice bottle of olive oil for his birthday. Do you remember that?

[A]

That's a lovely gift.

[B]

Yeah. It just showed up from insert. You guys were so confused. It was just me.

[A]

It was confusing sometimes Jack. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That's like you're not gonna get a hug, but you are gonna get a bottle of olive oil delivered mysteriously with no note.

[A]

No, it's giving anthrax for sure.

[B]

But remember, I got him like the pepper grinder because I got a pepper grinder that I really liked, so I thought that he would really like it. His pepper grinder, so I thought he would like.

[A]

So.

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I am always thinking of Lish. I'm always thinking of everyone. If I see something that I know someone.

[A]

You are a thoughtful gift giver. Like, oh, my God.

[B]

I was at an art gallery the other day because I was getting my car washed and it was one of the gallery girl. I know. Yeah. It's like, I. It's really hard to find a car wash, by the way. I thought they were on every corner.

[A]

And then you just sort of have to busy yourself for like two hours. Yeah.

[B]

The ones that you drive through, I thought they're on every corner. They're not. I literally drove around looking for a car wash. I finally found one, but it was like a person and a hose. So got out. They walked into an art gallery and they saw like a really beautiful piece of art that made me think of someone. I was like, should I just get them this piece of art?

[A]

Who did it make you think of? Me?

[B]

Can't tell you. I don't want to spoil it. I'm still mulling it over.

[A]

Oh, I love that.

[B]

Actually. Really beautiful. I should go back and buy it. I'm so.

[A]

Okay. She's a collector.

[B]

I'll send you a picture.

[A]

What else can I tell you? Oh, I'd like to see Devil Wears Prada this weekend. I believe it's out today. Yeah, I believe if the lgb, if the LGSA Shabbat crew wants to go. That's so huge opening weekend. It's gonna be like a Barbenheimer type of thing.

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Yeah, I mean, it's very exciting. I wonder. I wonder how big it will be, if it'll be bigger than the opening of the first one.

[A]

Wait. Oh, I wonder how much that did. But, you know, that's a good prediction to do on polymarket.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Let's get our predictions and check the market. What are the. What's. What's the market?

[A]

What are the street saying?

[B]

What's the poly market?

[A]

Okay, hold on, hold on. Oh, yeah. Devil Wears Prada opening weekend box office. So 66 of people are saying it's going to do between 70 and $80 million. That's actually. That's a lot I feel for opening weekend. Well, I'm gonna contribute. I think it's more lgsa. Like, you can count us in for like a hundred dollars.

[B]

I think it's put me it down for 100 million.

[A]

Well, that would put you with 1% of people.

[B]

That's classic me.

[A]

That's so you. Oh, my God.

[B]

But you thought I was gonna be with the herd. I don't think so.

[A]

That's a good prediction to do on polymarket.

[B]

Yeah, that is. Okay. Put it in.

[A]

Let's see if you can use code toast to get 20 free toast at Poly Market.

[B]

That's such a sleigh.

[A]

Absolutely. What else can I tell you?

[B]

That you're wearing my sweatshirt. You could tell me that you're wearing my sweatshirt.

[A]

It's not your sweatshirt anymore. Because I wore this sweatshirt when I found out that Ruby was pregnant. I'm cracking up. When I found out that I was pregnant with Ruble. And so it's just mine now. Every time I wear this sweatshirt, I feel so connected how it works.

[B]

And there's a huge. And you know that I'm such a giver. You know that I'm a giver. Between my olive oil and I just, like, I would. I would get my art. I would give someone the shirt off my back, like I really was. You, unfortunately, have chosen something that, like, I actually want back. You know, I've been talking like an influencer recently, like, using a lot of hand gestures. We've always gesticulated here, but more in, like, an Italian mama sort of way. And now I'm in the, like, influencer. Like Pacman.

[A]

Maybe you'll understand this. You're not getting it back.

[B]

I'm in the Pac man hands phase.

[A]

I know that you like it, but you don't have an emotional connection to the sweatshirt like I do. So I am just gonna say no.

[B]

You don't know that.

[A]

What's your emotional connection? All right, make a case

[B]

you don't love Bad Teacher. But you know the scene in Bad Teacher when that weird kid in the class always wears that sweatshirt that says gymnastics? And it's.

[A]

No, I don't know the movie. I might have seen it once, but it's certainly not.

[B]

He tells the teacher. He was like, it was my dad's. And he. It's the only thing he left, like, when he left us. And she's like, there's a reason why he left it.

[A]

Cracking. So you Think. Are you gonna say this is a family heirloom?

[B]

No, but it is mine. And I just. I feel bad because I would love to just get over it.

[A]

Well, get over it. No, I'm gonna, like, work on. Why don't you work on that this weekend? Well, I'm seeing the Devil Wears product.

[B]

I'm just gonna snatch it. Watch out. In the Hamptons.

[A]

I'm not bringing it. I'm not bringing it. How about that? You're gonna drive three hours back to the city to go get it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And what if we just purchased another one? You could have the new one.

[B]

Okay. Who makes it? It's no clue, Selkie. I feel like King Solomon. It's like you don't even know who makes it.

[A]

You obviously don't love it

[B]

like King Solomon. Like, as a judge, like, you know the story of the baby.

[A]

Split the baby in half.

[B]

Yeah, that's how I feel. Like, this judgment's coming down.

[A]

Like, oh, we should split the sweatshirt in half so neither of us can have it. But if I want.

[B]

But if one of us were to say, no, don't, because that would ruin the sweatshirt that person loves, then I wouldn't let us.

[A]

Yeah, because this sweatshirt means a lot to me.

[B]

Okay, same. Because it's mine.

[A]

No, it doesn't.

[B]

Yes, it does.

[A]

What does it mean to you emotionally? Like, explain.

[B]

It's a beautiful sweatshirt. It's a beautiful sweatshirt I wore.

[A]

And your deep, personal, emotional connection.

[B]

Year of life. I have so many memories in that sweatshirt.

[A]

Such a lie. Such a lie.

[B]

No, it's true. I'll find you pictures. I don't have to prove why I want my sweatshirt back.

[A]

It's not yours. And pot possession is 9, 10, the law.

[B]

I'm taking it back, but enjoy it while you.

[A]

I'm taking the selkie, dumbass.

[B]

Yeah, maybe Selkie will see this and send us another one.

[A]

Oh, girl, you better. And we'll take two new ones, please. This one has a stain.

[B]

Actually, could have it.

[A]

You know, by the way, there's a huge stain on the wrist. I don't even know what it is. Oh, just wanted to quickly update our whiteboard because yesterday was our fourth show without talking about Licks versus Lex in a formal capacity. Obviously. We talked briefly about her Instagram stories,

[B]

but that does not formal.

[A]

That does not constitute a capacity. That is formal.

[B]

When it's, like, the lead story, we can't stop talking about it. Four days. I'm proud of us.

[A]

Yeah, like, when we're talking about in the prefast.5 banner. We have to just hold ourselves back so we can do it as a first story. We're, like, so controlled.

[B]

Everything that we talk about, like, we just find a way to make it about that we have been controlled. There's not a formal story about it. Today, a couple, like, little things happen, you know, Lauren Lyndy is, like, popping off a little bit.

[A]

I want to say something quickly.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The thing that I wanted to say about that was just, like, a brief detail from yesterday's story that I do feel like makes a. Is Jermaine is the West Wilson drama is his step grandmother. So it is his grandfather's girlfriend. Obviously, that doesn't make the story any less tragic, of course, but, okay, he didn't lose his grandmother.

[B]

Like, where is his grandmother?

[A]

I would assume deceased. And this is the woman that his grandfather moved on with. Yeah.

[B]

So, no, it must be his grandpa's wife, because. Yeah, otherwise they wouldn't be calling it his grandmother. They'd say his grandpa's girlfriend.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Interesting. Also, people were speculating that maybe the family didn't tell west until after the reunion.

[A]

Right. Which I had also thought maybe was the case.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that would be good. But still, like, the reunion is kind of null and void, and I guess. Yeah, I guess what's right.

[A]

I can't keep sending hate West's way. Like, he's going through a. Like, a deep family tragedy and trauma. I won't. I won't pile on.

[B]

It's also a lot to process that your cousin is a murderer.

[A]

Obviously, that's more so than even if it was your grandma. Like, that's even a bigger pill to swallow than your grandma dying. Yeah.

[B]

Getting.

[A]

Getting killed.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So we're just.

[A]

And now, like, your cousin's going to jail. Like, that's crazy. Are they close? I don't know.

[B]

Well, maybe they're not. You know, hopefully they're not.

[A]

Hopefully.

[B]

Yeah. Hopefully they're not. Probably not. In his mug shot, he look like a crazy lunatic.

[A]

I mean, he did shoot his step grandmother.

[B]

I mean, he is a crazy lunatic, obviously, but he also looked like one.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

You know, absolutely not a Ted Bundy type.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I just feel like the days of the Ted Bundy types are over because, like, really, really, Luigi Serial killer. Oh, you think, like, using their looks to, like, trap women? Because men who look like that, they just become, like, tick tockers now.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

If you have an ounce of good looks like you as a man, there's a million beautiful girls on. On Tik Tok and Instagram and they have three followers. But if you're like a man with decently good looks and you don't care what other people think, like you just make TikToks that are cringe and you make a lot of money, like you don't need to murder people anymore. Ted Bundy would have been a tiktoker. Mark my words. You think?

[B]

But what if he has like, what if he's a psychopathic killer?

[A]

I just feel like he wouldn't have gotten to that place with like all the positive accolades and like the comments and the engagement and stuff.

[B]

But I feel like, like his version of positive accolades back in the day, like he was getting, you know, everybody, like, right.

[A]

So. So just. You don't feel my call, Is that what you're saying?

[B]

I just don't know.

[A]

That feels right. I don't know. That feels right.

[B]

I don't know if TikTok's gonna end the murder epidemic.

[A]

That feels right.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

And just when I thought you were having my back today because you said

[B]

crack meth, I was. I was tribes trying, but also that

[A]

not who you are.

[B]

It earned me a Jetter Spoon.

[A]

It did well.

[B]

I was more so focused.

[A]

I earned you like a Joe Bull.

[B]

No, it's a no jerk.

[A]

Oh, you know what's so funny? Something just popped up on my Tik Tok. It's so crazy when I'm scrolling TikTok and I see a video that's about us, like it happens quite a bit. Like either people loving the toes, like giving, you know, their takes on the toast and someone was just like, Claudia and Jackie Ash are like the biggest Jews. They're the proudest Jews. They're always talking about Jews, but they are so hard on their fellow Jews. And the examples that she cited were Jesse Solomon.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Andy Cohen.

[B]

Yeah. Ben Platt.

[A]

And Ben Platt. Yeah. Now obviously Ben Platt is self explanatory. Like, no, I don't support Jews who literally hates Jews. Like he's out. Like, that's not even a question. Now Jesse Solomon, like, yes, he's Jewish, but there could we hold space for multiple truths. Like he was wrong for what he did to Lexi and he's a nice Jewish boy. Like, do you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No.

[B]

But I also think like it's important for us to like be hard, critical and like critical of the Jews that I don't feel like are portraying Jewish people in a good light. Like we need to course correct and let like the World know, like, that's not what we're about.

[A]

Although I do think Andy Cohen represents the Jewish people in, like, a pretty decent way.

[B]

No, I think he, like, exploits Jewish culture and then doesn't have the Jewish people's back.

[A]

Well, that's like, a big shtick. Is like, you know, using. That's how I feel about Ben Platt. Like, so many of his, like, most engaged Instagram posts are like, here's a little song I wrote about Rosh Hashanah. And then when it becomes time for, like, you to actually stand up for Jews, you're just nowhere to be found. So you can't use the shtick and not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you can benefit from the shtick of the community while also not supporting the community.

[B]

I feel like that's Andy Cohen.

[A]

Yeah. But I guess the bar after October 7th lowered so much. Like, I found Andy's behavior to be quite fine.

[B]

No, the bar lowered so much for everyone else, but, like, not for fellow Jews. Like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So if you want to be like, mazel. You've got to step your up a little bit.

[A]

I agree. And then Jesse Solomon, like, his Jewishness does not.

[B]

Except for the one Shabbat he hosted at Summer House. Like, I don't.

[A]

I forget.

[B]

I know. I don't. Like, I don't judge him well or poorly because he's Jewish.

[A]

Like, I actually, this is. It's the same thing when people say, like, women who support other women, are you an asshole? Like, I don't really care your race, religion, creed. Like, just, Are you an asshole? Are you a woman? Are you a Jew? Like, there are both.

[B]

Yeah. No, but I. I do feel like. And also, other people can't be like, you're a bad Jew. Like, excuse me.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

I feel like we.

[A]

We have to be the ones to do it.

[B]

Yeah. So I. I think that's fair. I think that's a fair assessment of us. Yeah. I wear it proudly.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Did you? Please.

[A]

Yeah. Right. We wear yellow stars replacing the shoes. Yeah. Right.

[B]

That's always weird to, like, see a clip about yourself out of nowhere. That happened to me a couple.

[A]

When you're just mindlessly scrolling.

[B]

That happened to me with Michaela Matthews.

[A]

Oh, that's terrible. Yeah.

[B]

And it happened. It actually happened to me the other day. I saw these random girls talking about us. I never saw them before. Never saw them again. And they were just, like, opining about their. Not really. Not really. But, like, it was just weird to see someone talking about me.

[A]

It's very jarring when you're on your mindless scroll, which is like a dopamine hit, you're really not, like, intentionally. You're just mindless. And for them to, like, hear your name, it sips you right out of it. And it's very jarring.

[B]

Yeah. Like someone.

[A]

I realize this is not, like, a universal relatable issue. No.

[B]

But it's something that I experienced recently, though, you know, Like, I guess we're just getting bigger than ever.

[A]

I try. It's true. I try to scroll right past it because I don't really want to see more content like that. I think the toast is, like. It's art, you know, it's. People are going to love it. People are going to criticize it, and that's what makes it beautiful. So it doesn't bother me. Like, I like that there's discourse around it, but I try not to engage with it because I'm not only going to get the positive, and I just want people to be able to, like, kind of like, with a book, you know, how authors aren't supposed to read their own reviews or engage with reviewers. That's really how I feel at this point. As like, an artist.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, I. I completely agree. I completely agree.

[A]

Anything else we want to pffb about?

[B]

No, I don't think so. I'm, like, having a total, like, gap in memory about what I did yesterday.

[A]

Oh. I hosted a community event yesterday. Like a holiday slash, you know, fireside chat at one of my local community centers for young Jewish women. It was fabulous. I love. I just love being a Jewish woman, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it was so shtel. Yeah.

[B]

And part of that is calling out your fellow Jews. Like, classic, you know?

[A]

Absolutely. Tevia Wood.

[B]

Tevia. What Tevia did.

[A]

Who do you feel like you are in Fiddler on the Roof?

[B]

Maybe the mother. Maybe the mother now. You know, I relate to mothers now.

[A]

And who do you think I am, Tevia? I think so, too.

[B]

You're Laser Wolf.

[A]

I actually am not. And I resent the accusation.

[B]

We're anyone but the daughters.

[A]

Yeah. The daughters. Like, they don't fit into ours. Like, there's not. It's not like you're a Kim, you're a Chloe, you're a Tatel. Like, it just doesn't work.

[B]

No. I feel like the mother, you know, worrying about her children, cooking, doing the wash.

[A]

I kind of like, if I had to, would relate to the oldest one.

[B]

Yeah. We're married for love.

[A]

Yeah. Seitzel.

[B]

Yeah. They're all tatel.

[A]

They are all satal.

[B]

Fatal and laytel They're Satal Chavez, right? No, I think there's a Chava.

[A]

What are the daughters names? Seidel Hodel. Sprincy Selkie. Oh, like my sweatshirt.

[B]

There's five.

[A]

I thought there was four too. Yeah.

[B]

You know who you are? You're from a Sarah, the mother in law haunting you.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Yeah. So good. Remember when we were casting Fiddler on the Roof live?

[A]

Because I had just re watched it like I've seen it literally once as a kid and then never again. And I know the music and I referenced like Tevia, but I actually didn't really know what the story was about. So like two years ago, I think I was pregnant and I rewatched it. It might be a chilling story at your house. A chilling story to watch while pregnant. Like. Yeah, it's not. It's all fun and games to like the Kozaks come.

[B]

No, it's actually like, it's such a fun movie, but it's a crazy movie. It's very dark and it's like the expulsion of million Jews from Eastern Europe and Russia. Like that's our story, you know, our people. Very sad.

[A]

Oh yeah. We were casting. Who did we cast? Tevia. Like Liam Liev Schreiber, Adam Sandler.

[B]

I think

[A]

when I tell you there is no show funnier than this one. Like, and I'm constantly reminded of that, like when you sent me the Mr. McCorky clip, us casting Adam Sandler as a modern day tab, you had like, when I say we're operating at such a high level, like nobody can meet us where we're at, it's insane how good the show is.

[B]

And I'm pretty sure we had Liam Michelle in every role as the daughters.

[A]

That feels right. Kind of like, I think I have

[B]

the list on my phone.

[A]

Kind of like how Tyler Perry plays all the characters in the Madea film.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Lea Michelle plays all the characters in the modern adaptation produced by Toast Productions of Fiddler on the Roof. Malia.

[B]

So you're saying it's Malia.

[A]

Okay, content idea for today's episode, we need to make like a fake Madea cover, but everyone is Lea Michele and they're all wearing like old Jewish shadow, like schmatz.

[B]

Claudia. I have the list.

[A]

Okay. Who did we cast for the to

[B]

do the music for the Fiddler on the Roof remake? That we are Pasek and Paul. Pasek and Paul. We also have David Foster. I think we agreed that even though he's not Jewish, that we need.

[A]

He has the vibe we need his

[B]

Talents on the movie.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

For Tevia. Oh, this is so good. We have a four options. Sasha Baron Cohen.

[A]

So good. But he's not fat enough.

[B]

Liev Schreiber.

[A]

He's not fat, but he's big.

[B]

Adam Sandler.

[A]

It's pretty good.

[B]

Jack Black.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Jack Black is the winner, obviously.

[B]

For the daughters, we have Adam Sandler's daughters.

[A]

Oh, sunny. Wait, this is a really good casting.

[B]

No. And Lea Michele.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

For the men, we have one Josh Peck.

[A]

Just which man?

[B]

Like the husband. The tailor.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Who's Laser Wolf?

[B]

Laser Wolf. Josh Gad.

[A]

Oh, wait, this is so good. The match Gadd could also be Tevye.

[B]

Yeah. No, he's a little young.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The matchmaker, Alex Borenstein.

[A]

Stop. This is so good for Goldie.

[B]

That's the wife.

[A]

We obviously like the mother of Adam Sandler.

[B]

Yeah, the wife of Adam Sandler. Idina Menzel.

[A]

Oh, that's really good. But you know who we have to cast in this movie is Tova Felt. She's.

[B]

Oh, my God, she's.

[A]

She's the grandmother from Nobody Wants Us. The mother in law. Excuse me, From Nobody Wants Us.

[B]

Wait, and then for our co sac, we have Glenn Powell chilling. Also at the bottom, unnamed, we just have Selma Blair and Jeff Garland to what?

[A]

Like, we want them involved in some capacity.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Idea Hollywood. They're always looking for new ide. Oh, Pasek and Paul on the remix would be insane. That soundtrack. That soundtrack is so amazing. Like, it actually feels like old Jewish music. Like klezmer music that's been around. They feel like prayers.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's really. It's kind of how, like, the Schindler's List score, like, has become the score of the Holocaust. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. I didn't realize we were, like, going to talk about Schindler's List today. Like, that's just. I need to be in a very particular type of.

[B]

No, we're just talking about the Hitler's List score. Just. Okay.

[A]

Like, personally, I can't talk about Schindler's List until I'm. Until I'm just absolutely prepped for it.

[B]

So I, I. Yeah, but just think about the score. Like.

[A]

Yeah, it feel. Yeah, yeah, you got the point.

[B]

That just.

[A]

Yeah, I got it.

[B]

That just feels like the whole Holocaust now. Like. And I think that's the power of scoring.

[A]

Yeah, I think Hans Zimmer would agree.

[B]

I think Pasek and Paul, who did Schindler's List. Not to. Not to bring it back.

[A]

All right, like, can we just move on.

[B]

We had to give credit.

[A]

You know, I want to say it

[B]

was probably Mr. Zimmerman, I feel like too Schindler's List score, John Williams.

[A]

Okay, slay Mr. Williams.

[B]

What else did he score?

[A]

We are like pffb, way close to the sun today. I do think we could dive in if you wanted to.

[B]

I do. But he also did Star Wars, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones and the first three range range first three Harry Potter films. The Harry Potter square is pretty iconic too.

[A]

Yeah, the little jingle. The jingle when they're like at Hogwarts.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you know, you know it when you're here. Wow, what a talent.

[A]

What a time. Let's dive into the fast five stories, shall we?

[B]

Sure. Without further ado to do, here are the fast five stories that you to do need to know.

[A]

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You're welcome. 35% jerk.

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Our first story stories in no particular order today. Couldn't find a lead story but just winging it.

[A]

I guess the lead story is the friends we made along the way.

[B]

I guess that it is very good.

[A]

No jerk, no friends.

[B]

Very good. Just riffing.

[A]

Oh, okay. Like what are you saying about me?

[B]

Don't worry, I'm not coming for your friends.

[A]

Again. Good.

[B]

Along the way of friends. Our first story Netflix source says they've sealed the deal on a return for the crown, but it's not what you will expect. So Netflix is apparently producing a spin off of the crown set to take place starting at the death of Queen Victoria. So that would be 19. When did she pass? 1911. 1901. I forget.

[A]

So that is Lilibet. I have to like Think of everything in the royal family is how they're related to Elizabeth.

[B]

That's her great grand. She died. That's her, like, yeah, great, great gran. But, yeah, I guess the years after she died were kind of crazy. I think her oldest son passed. I believe he was engaged. And so, like, the girl who was going to be queen, I think she, like, kind of felt shit out of luck. But then she managed to woo the brother and got.

[A]

I wouldn't spoil it, honestly, because I don't know this era of history, and I know it happened, so you can't really spoil it.

[B]

Yeah, but it's kind of like when

[A]

Olivia spoiled that movie for me about Jimmy Hoffa.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She was like, and then he died. I'm like, wait, what? She's so annoying for that.

[B]

It's nice to go into it blind. You're gonna forget everything that I've just said, though. But I'm pretty sure that that became, like, King George and Queen Mary, and I think that's Elizabeth's. No, this is. Oh, no. 1901. So, yeah, that's Elizabeth's grandparents.

[A]

Yeah. It's not that far off.

[B]

And then did King George have the two sons and the one abdicated, and then King George.

[A]

We'll find out. Didn't they say they were doing another crown? Oh, the Kennedys.

[B]

They're doing Crown Kennedys.

[A]

Right. Netflix is producing a crown, like.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's cool.

[A]

Show about, like, the Bobby Ethel days.

[B]

Yeah. I've always said that Netflix should do a prequel of the crown and pick up that show Victoria, that never got more seasons, and just make that the Netflix prequel. And so, like, this is kind of that, because we already got two seasons of the crown, not of the Crown of Victoria. The rest of her life. I think she kind of went crazy, and it's, like, not as interesting. She married off all her children. You know, she had eight of her children sitting on various thrones throughout Europe at one point, like, all of the monarchs in Europe were, like, her grandchildren. And so I think just cutting to 1901, like, that's literally what I asked for. Thank you so much.

[A]

Yeah. I think the crowd left a gaping hole in people's interests, and I think the time was kind of perfect because she did pass as, like, the last season was airing, and it was, I think, all in all, like a. A real love story to Queen Elizabeth. Obviously, it showed her hard times, making bad choices with Diana and even her sister, like, just let the sister marry. She was gonna marry him anyway. So overall, I do think it was like a real. Like a beautiful body of work and an ode to a life well lived in, like a. The Sovereign, you know, and everything she did. So now I think that they can and should explore other parts of the family, because it really did pique this interest in people. People were even, like, me. Like, I never really was into the Royal family or anything. Obsessed with the crown. Like, it was just an amazing show and the fact that it was based on real life was even, like, better. But it was just a good show, even if it wasn't based on true events, you know?

[B]

Yeah, but the fact. But yes, making it. That's why people like it.

[A]

A lot of people don't like history, but they just like, like good shows. And this was both. So I hope that they do it with different parts of the Roya and also the Kennedys, like, that I'm sad for.

[B]

Yeah, me as well. Now I'm in the family tree. This is actually my favorite period of history, really. Like Victoria, the Victorian era, and then the Edwardian era, which is also when Downton takes place.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And I kind of know a lot about history, like, just through Downton and how it relates to, like, you know, the Titanic in 1912. Like, Downton Abbey taught me everything I know.

[B]

Yeah. That, like, took us from, like, 1912 to 1930. And then Crown picks up post World War II. So, like, we're pretty much all caught up.

[A]

We're pretty sad. Yeah. Thanks, Netflix.

[B]

So I'm very excited about this.

[A]

Yeah, no, this sounds good. And the people who do the crown are just, like, good at their job. They do it so classy.

[B]

And I just want to say, like, they could recast some people from the crown because if they're related, it's like, okay, if they look alike, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Just they put. They pull from the same group of people. Like, people who film Downton Abbey, Game of Thrones. It's like that very British professional actor, like, West End vibe.

[B]

You know who you might find?

[A]

Ted Lasso's coming back.

[B]

Yeah. And he's coming back to Virginia.

[A]

That was confusing why they made this whole big thing about ending it.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't. I never watched it. And it did feel premature, but now he's coaching women's soccer in the U.S. right.

[A]

Which is, like, cute, actually.

[B]

So it's kind of like a spin off.

[A]

I will miss. What was his name?

[B]

Roy.

[A]

The player. Danny.

[B]

There was a lot of players.

[A]

Wait, no. Football is live.

[B]

Oh, Danny. Yeah.

[A]

Wait, speaking of Roy, I saw the craziest Trailer for a movie he's in.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He's in a rom com. You're gonna die playing opposite. So he's like, new at this company, and there's like, a big boss. She's like a Miranda Priestly vibe. Like a big woman in charge. I think it's a woman's soccer team, actually.

[B]

And

[A]

who's the boss? Like, you're gonna die when I tell you. It's so random. I don't know. Brett Goldstein, who's like the best character from Ted Lasso, is playing a rom com opposite Jennifer Lopez.

[B]

That's so good.

[A]

The trailer actually looked like an SNL skit. Like, it was not real. I. And it's like a Netflix. It's one of those really corny, like, Netflix rom coms. I don't know if it's on Netflix, but it's like a streamer. I could not believe what I was watching. Like, it actually looked fake.

[B]

That's so funny. That's like, what's gonna save the moviemaking industry? Because Steven Spielberg was saying, like, they have to start coming up with, like, original ideas for movies or else. Like, you know, you can't just do remakes forever. Right. That's what he was talking about. Like, that sort of J.

[A]

Lo and Brick. Old too.

[B]

That sort of ingenuity.

[A]

I don't know why. Like, the thought of them kissing freaks me out.

[B]

Yeah. I think you should watch it and report back.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah. In another.

[A]

What's it even called?

[B]

In my previous life, like, that was made for me, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like a terrible, corny, bad acting romance movie.

[A]

And One thing about JLo, like, she does not let that. Like, she is so dynamic, especially in her acting career, because every movie she's made in the last two decades, aside from the stripper one, which one was that called? The Hustlers is, like, corny and fake and like, literally a joke. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But she got her start in acting as Selena. Like, she. And then made in Manhattan. She was like, one of the most high profile, sought after actresses. Wedding planner for, like, 10 years. And now every movie she makes is, like, actually fake. Like, I feel like there's a trailer, but there's no movie.

[B]

Yeah. No one notices because no one set out to see the movie.

[A]

I cannot tell you. Besides, for Hustlers, a movie she has made or been in in the last 10 years. That's good.

[B]

Must I pull up her.

[A]

Please don't. It's sad. Like, she did that movie Atlas. She did that movie like, Marry Me with Owen Wilson. Remember Justin Sylvester was in it.

[B]

You did? I did.

[A]

Was it good?

[B]

It was a movie. Like it passed muster.

[A]

So it wasn't just a trailer.

[B]

No. And it passed muster, you know, and Owen Wilson. Like, I saw it random. It was a movie that I saw.

[A]

And I feel the way about her that I kind of feel about Ariana Grande. It's really hard for like these big pop divas to be believable as actress.

[B]

At least in that movie she was playing a big pop diva.

[A]

Oh, good. Okay. That's why Glinda was good for Ariana because it was this like big, larger than life personality. But like in the Fockers. I'm scared.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because Harry Styles too, even though he did like a pretty decent job in his like brief acting career. I think the pop divas to stop. Like, it's you. I'm sorry. You actually really can't be both unless you're Lady Gaga. But that's because her diva personality is literally a costume.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she acts as Stephanie like she is when you see her without makeup,

[B]

she can probably go to the grocery store. It's like a great example of someone. Like, I feel like she did two movies.

[A]

I think she's probably at this point in time like doing it the best but not shallow.

[B]

Star is Born was great because she really played like a someone who early version of herself. House of Gucci.

[A]

I didn't see it. So I really can't say.

[B]

Honestly, I, I, it wasn't great. Although.

[A]

But I think her acting career up until this point has been a huge success. She's an Oscar nominated films like she, I use her as an example. I think she's doing it the best. I don't think she's doing it perfectly, but. And that's because she really does have a different personality on stage. And like Ari is Ari.

[B]

And also she's not afraid to be ugly.

[A]

I mean the whole point of that Star is Born movie was that she had a big nose.

[B]

Yeah. But. And like how Gucci. She's playing like some like old woman maiden. Yeah. She's never been afraid to be ugly. And you have to be that way if you're an actor.

[A]

And let me tell you who's afraid to be ugly. Jennifer Lopez.

[B]

Jennifer Lopez. Ariana Grande.

[A]

Ariana Grande.

[B]

Kim Kardashian. And they're afraid to be fat. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

If you're not willing to gain and weight. Gain and lose weight for roles, you

[B]

should have to like gain 20 pounds in order to get your SAG AFTRA card. Just to prove Just to prove that you're dedicated.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Are you ready for our next story? Pete Davidson and Elsie Hewitt are working through relationship issues. Sources have said that they have split, but People magazine is saying that they are just having relationship issues and working through those. Which sounds like, you know, broken up. Why would we know if they're in a fight five months after they welcomed their baby girl, Scotty Rose? So the source says there are issues, but they're trying to figure things out together. They're adjusting to parenthood and working through the process.

[A]

Like, maybe the issue is that she's postpartum and he should just leave her alone. Like. Yeah, I don't know how you can make a big decision five months postpartum. Like, that's just impossible.

[B]

You can. And like, barring like, really terrible, terrible things, cheating, just put it on. Whatever the issues are, just put, set them aside for a second, focus on the baby and deal with it. Like, when you feel like yourself again.

[A]

Yeah. I want to say something that I feel like is controversial, but it shouldn't be. But, like, barring any sort of extreme circumstances like abuse or cheating, like breaking up with your partner when you just had a baby, like, should be illegal.

[B]

You shouldn't do it to the baby or to yourself.

[A]

Yeah. Like, for everyone.

[B]

Yeah. Barring.

[A]

And that's boring. Anything.

[B]

Yes. But yeah, Like, I feel like this is a trend.

[A]

I'm hearing it, like, happen a lot with celebrities who literally have a baby in five minutes later.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. I don't, I can't remember, like, why I think that, but I feel like we've reported on a couple of stories like this and it's actually so sad.

[B]

It's so sad. Like, it's sad for the, the couple that then they either don't have their

[A]

child all the time in Hollywood of celebrity couples who have split immediately after having a baby.

[B]

You either aren't with your baby all the time, which is so sad, or the times when you are with your baby, you're like single parenting it, which is so hard.

[A]

There actually are a handful of recent pretty high profile examples. Oh, Cardi B and Offset.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Filed for divorce in mid 2024. Announced pregnancy with her third child immediately after baby was born September. Cardi B also and Stefan Diggs. She's two. Two of these examples. Molly Main, Tommy Fury split it. They technically split within one year after a baby, but they did get back together.

[B]

Yeah. And that was.

[A]

They tried, you know, Ellie Goulding and Casper Jopling. I don't know who that is. Pete Davidson. And Elsie Hewitt. Wow. Chat updates quickly date. I don't know who these people are. Millie McIntosh and Hugo Taylor.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, I hate this. Like, I seriously hate this.

[B]

Yeah. Like, make it work. Put it aside, compartmentalize, and just try and get through this difficult time and then, like, and then focus on the issues. But it's not going to be easy.

[A]

It's not gonna be easy. No, of course not. But I think that also, like, when you're so famous, a lot of the issues actually. No, I'm not gonna say that. I take that back.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't agree with what I was gonna say.

[B]

Rescinded. Stricken from the record.

[A]

Like, having money when you have a baby, like, makes things 100 times easier. So it's like, what do you have to fight about? But there's still things to fight about. So I take that back.

[B]

Yeah. Stricken from the record.

[A]

Yeah, stricken from the record. Know thyself. Like, be self aware.

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah, I. I hope they get back together or figure it out.

[A]

I also just want to say I don't meet any people named Elsie and I really like the name.

[B]

It's pretty.

[A]

It is.

[B]

That was like my in utero name for Harry.

[A]

Elsie Little camper.

[B]

Yeah. And then I was like, honestly, if this were a girl, that would be a really cute name. Elsie.

[A]

Yeah. Put in your back pocket.

[B]

Yeah. Our next story, Brooksie is getting down, down under. Brooks Nader and Taryn Egerton take a dip during a romantic Australian beach date. So the two of them were packing on the PDA in the ocean, sharing an embrace and holding hands on their way out of the ocean, where they both dunked and they still proceeded to kiss. So it's love. Yeah.

[A]

Obviously not to make everything about me, but one of my favorite fun facts is that I am on Brooks Nader's story. So, like, I did know a few days ago that they were headed to Australia because she put it on her close friends.

[B]

But then why are these pictures only coming out now? And now she's also York.

[A]

Oh, that's weird.

[B]

Yeah, like, she's just time traveling.

[A]

I'm having the same sort of experience with this that I had with Kylie and Timothy because I famously, like, never thought Timothy Shalamet was even remotely good looking. And I still don't think he's like that hot. But I sort of get it. I get why people are obsessed with him. I understand how one person could think he's hot now. Before Brixie, I never really thought of Taron Edgerton. As like a deeply handsome individual. I never really thought of him, period. And now. Yeah, no. And I'm like, oh, he's a good actor. But I never thought, like, he isn't my favorite movie, but I never thought like, oh, that's somebody I'd like to lay with.

[B]

He's not on our eligibles list.

[A]

Right. But then seeing this picture of like, him sort of guiding Brooksie out of the ocean. He's ripped. I said, oh, that is, I guess. Yeah, a handsome guy.

[B]

Yeah. He also, like, looks older than her in, like, in a nice way. But he's only 36 and she's 20.

[A]

Treating her well.

[B]

Yeah, I hope so. I feel like he is. He seems like a good guy. But I think she likes, like toxic men, so.

[A]

Oh, I know.

[B]

So I don't know. But really cute. And they're like, really? They're all in.

[A]

I love this. I guess, like, is he from Australia or they just took a trip.

[B]

I think they just took a trip. I don't think that's really far to

[A]

go for just like a vacation.

[B]

Maybe he's promoting a movie. You know, there's a lot of work down there, but she's so busy.

[A]

Like, who has time to go to Australia?

[B]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[A]

If not for work. That's a lot.

[B]

Like, I feel like a 24 hour flight. How long is it far? Is it like.

[A]

Well, they probably went from LA, so I feel like, like 19.

[B]

But still she like works a lot, so 19 hours of not working.

[A]

It must be true love. I don't think this is the end all be all for her, but I think this is like a nice, like, you know, a nice notching her belt.

[B]

I wish she was a singer or something. So she was like writing songs about these relationships because she has a lot of good ones. And it's like she has her show,

[A]

like an art form of. Yeah, her show. And they did. So I guess, like, the previous footage we had seen is being completely scrapped because on her Instagram and all the girls, they're like filming again and it seems like they've just started filming.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think we're. We're gonna be getting Taryn. I don't know if he's gonna be on the show, but obviously they'll talk about the relationship. I need them to turn it around quickly. Like, I seriously don't have time to wait because by the time they. At the pace that they're mermaid, she'll have another boyfriend. By the time this is airing and it's like it's irrelevant.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm sad for it now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you ready for our next story? What?

[A]

Number four? Yeah.

[B]

The Swifties are in a tizzy because Taylor Swift's website briefly displayed a Toy Story style countdown. So a mysterious countdown briefly appeared on Taylor Swift's official website on April 30, and it was enough to send fans into full detective mode. So the clock, which was roughly set 10, which was up for 10 minutes before being taken down, counted down to 1pm Central Time, 2pm Eastern Time on May 2. That's tomorrow. Even more intriguing is the background featured unmistakable Toy Story inspired blue and white clouded imagery, prompting immediate speculation about a potential crossover or soundtrack announcement. Because we know Toy Story 5 is coming out.

[A]

I can't imagine she would ever release something on a Saturday that quite literally makes no sense. Like music comes out on a Friday and announcements on the weekends just get buried. Like, so I don't understand this. I. I wish she, like, if it is like a song for Toy Story, like, she can't really abuse the countdown thing. I just want to say, and I feel like she does sometimes it's like a countdown to another vinyl or a new piece of merch. And it's like the countdown should be reserved for serious things.

[B]

Yeah, Well, I just like, don't really care about the countdowns anymore. Now this is interesting because of the Toy Story element, but if she had just put a countdown on her website and took it off, like, I'm sorry, we can't. We can't go through this again.

[A]

I can't do this again. Yeah, no, it clearly is something. Whether she's, you know, voicing a character or probably writing an original song. Like very trolls. Justin Timberlake. That's how you get those big hits. Like, love that.

[B]

Yeah, Love, love, love. That would be really cute. Also, the timing is notable because Toy Story 5 is set to hit theaters on June 19, 2026, the same date that marks the 20th anniversary of her debut single, Tim McGraw.

[A]

I don't think. I think that's just a coincidence. I think she has so many singles that, like, there's a. Literally an anniversary. What the hell Would Tim McGraw have to do with an original song?

[B]

When you hear Woody and Buzz.

[A]

Oh, you think she's rewriting it? I hope that makes to be Buzz Lightyear.

[B]

Honestly, my household. That would go.

[A]

It would go platinum.

[B]

Yeah, I kind of like love what I just wrote.

[A]

Like, yeah, chilling. It's giving. What was that Selena Gomez song I wrote?

[B]

I am no single.

[A]

Yes. I am single.

[B]

I am me.

[A]

To dance with your heart, remember? Yeah, I like being alone too much to dance with your heart.

[B]

But what was the name of her

[A]

song, the one she ended up releasing?

[B]

Like, we knew she was releasing a song. She gave us a title, so then we tried to.

[A]

I'll be single soon. I'll be single. I am full of useless information. Like, it's insane.

[B]

Seriously, the worst song ever.

[A]

Absolutely agree. Hard to 10 out of 10 agree.

[B]

So I hope this is something.

[A]

I love this journey. Obviously, I'm very toxic, and I want Taylor to have babies really, really soon. Just selfishly, like, so she can be in the same place that I am, and I can relate to her even more, you know, more deeply than I do. And so I love you getting into the children's space, Taylor. Love that. Yeah, it's a pregnancy announcement. No, I'm kidding. I'm so toxic.

[B]

That would be really funny. No, I hope it's a song for the soundtrack. Like, what? It should be 100. I mean, and that song for Justin

[A]

Timberlake might be his biggest song ever. What's the song? Sunshine in My Pocket. That's from Trolls. Kelly Clarkson also wrote a song, Trolls. It's broken, but it's beautiful. Oh, my God. Kathy Hilton on the reunion saying that she tried a diet that Oprah Winfrey, Michelle Obama, and Kelly Clarkson tried. She's so funny.

[B]

And it turned out to be fake.

[A]

Yeah, of course. And, like, literally, it should have been a sponsored segment for, like, elder abuse on the Internet. Like, AI is so dangerous.

[B]

Yeah. Well, we're gonna get into the Beverly Hills recap. But first, our fifth and final story,

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You're welcome.

[B]

Just our fifth and final story. Emily Blunt is getting some backlash for her quote awful career advice. So Emily Blend is being slammed on social media for telling fans to Quit their jobs and settle for making no money. Basically. She did a YouTube interview with batches where she was asked if she has advice for, quote, women who are hating their jobs right now. She said, quit. No. And then she laughed and added, just find something that you deeply want to do. If, even if you're earning no money, as long as you love it, you'll be happy. So fans are calling out her awful career advice, noting, that's easy for her to say, $80 million net worth, blah, blah, blah. People saying that can only be said by an overprivileged person. People calling her entitled, out of touch.

[A]

No matter what she said, people weren't going to want the advice because, like, it's coming from a place of privilege. Because what. What if she said, well, that's too bad. You got to earn a living. Stay at your miserable job. Like, what the.

[B]

Cancel. And it's like, Kim got canceled for saying, nobody wants.

[A]

Nobody wants to work these days.

[B]

Get your fucking ass up and work. That's bad.

[A]

You can't talk about remote work versus in office. It's like a cancelable offense. We know you. So Emily Blunt, even Jackie Reese Witherspoon was trying to help women with AI and she got backlash.

[B]

Like, there's actually.

[A]

Don't want to hear it.

[B]

There is no answer to this question that will not get you hate. So actually correct batches, set her up with that. Because she's actually giving like this soft answer for Wokey's quiz. Do what you love. And now, right.

[A]

Who cares about bills? Yeah.

[B]

Money is a construct, right? Just steal.

[A]

Yeah, but if she, like, literally still

[B]

getting hate for that, I'm actually shocked she's getting hate for this answer. Because this is the sort of thing like keyboard warriors actually want. They don't want to be told hard things like get to work, you know, slap a smile on your face.

[A]

It's a bad question.

[B]

They set her up. They seriously trapped her 100. They have something against her because, like,

[A]

what is your advice for women? What was the question?

[B]

What's your advice? Who are. For women who are currently hating their jobs?

[A]

I mean, there's literally no good answer. Because you could say, like, just get over it. Or you have a living to make and you could say, oh, yeah, quit and money's a construct. Like, that's actually just bad advice. I want to say, like, people work because they have to, not because they want to. Yeah, there's no good answer. It's a bad question.

[B]

It's a bad question. I wouldn't even like Endeavor to answer it now. You know there's no right answer. Suck it up.

[A]

And the thing is, nobody wants to hear from me. Nobody wants to hear from Emily Blunt either.

[B]

No, because she doesn't. I think they are, like, trying to make it because, like, Emily and Annie, you guys, it's a movie. Is everyone feeling okay? Like, it's a movie? She didn't actually play, like, an abused assistant.

[A]

I guess this would be a good question for, like, Emma Greed, who's currently on, like, a world tour for her book.

[B]

Yeah. People don't want to hear what she has to say about it either, because they're not going to like what she has to say.

[A]

She's a hard three hours a week.

[B]

She's a tough cookie.

[A]

What do you think about three hours a week? She. It sucks because, like. Like, she wrote this whole book about her life, and it has been to this, like, one thing.

[B]

Was it three hours a week or three hours a day?

[A]

Week.

[B]

So she's a. She's with her kids three hours a week, she said.

[A]

That's what she said. She's very open about the fact that she spends no time with her kids. She has three. And they're, you know, of course, well taken care of. They have nannies, they have a staff. They have extracurriculars. They have a horse. Like, but they don't technically have a present. Mother.

[B]

A week. I thought it was three hours a day.

[A]

Which three hours a day for, like, a working mom is actually a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Some moms only get, like, the hour before bed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. And no, it's three hours a week.

[B]

That's low.

[A]

Yeah, that's low. And, like, you are a billionaire now. So, like, isn't the exciting part of being a billionaire that, like, you can spend time with your kids? And I think there are a lot of women who are open about the fact that, like, they don't want to work less and they want to have balance. But, like, do you want to see your kids at all?

[B]

What about the weekends? Like, how is it three hours, including the weekends?

[A]

She talks about the weekends because that's what people say. And she's like.

[B]

I saw a clip of her talking about it, but I just assumed it was three hours a day. And I was like, so it's three hours a day. She'll like, okay.

[A]

Like, that's actually pretty good for, like, a billionaire.

[B]

Yeah. For someone who's, like, working full time, trying to, like, build.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what'd she say about the weekends?

[A]

What she said about the weekends. That she like, can't completely unplug. And there's still. She also thinks she wants to do for herself.

[B]

Right. I mean, when are you gonna get your nails done? When are you gonna go see the

[A]

doctor, Catch up socially?

[B]

Not. But like, there's so many. Just little things, you know, gotta run errands.

[A]

Yeah, of course. It adds up.

[B]

Get a wax.

[A]

Yeah. I thought that was, like, brave of her. I don't judge, but I would never share that.

[B]

But she's obviously, like, very confident in herself and, and her parenting skills and, you know, it takes a confident person to say that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And someone who's pleased with how things are going for her and her family to be like, this is how I do it. And it's working out great. So I'm sure it is working out. I'm sure. I'm sure she's got it on lock. Has it always been that way? Did she say, like, even when she had little babies, she didn't mention, but

[A]

they're not that old. Like, they're little kids still.

[B]

Yeah. I guess it's like the truth, you know, if you want to, like, crush life as a woman, like, yeah, you're not going to see your kids.

[A]

And I saw actually, like a lot of discourse about it on Tick Tock of like, you know, from kids who had really ambitious moms. And it was really divided. A lot of the people were like, no, I'm obsessed with my mom. She instilled this insane sense of ambition in me and like, she was a role model and. And then other people being like, well, we just wanted her to come home. Like, that's all we really cared about. Ambition. Ambition.

[B]

Yeah. That's like when people do something really big and they're like, I want my kids to see me follow my dreams.

[A]

No. And sometimes I feel like it does leave a lasting impression on the kids. And sometimes the kid just wants you to come.

[B]

I don't think they notice.

[A]

Like, well, some of the Tick Tock girls were saying that they did.

[B]

No, but it depends on the age of the kids. Depends on the dream. But I feel like sometimes people do selfish things and they're like, it's good for my kids to see me following my dream.

[A]

No, it has become just like a thing people say. It's like one. It was. It's a former truth that's now just like a thing.

[B]

It's like, I don't know if that registered for them that like, mom, okay, I didn't get to see, but she's there too. She's following her dream. Okay, all good.

[A]

Let's talk about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Part 2 reunion. It should have been the final part. They really, like, don't need three parts for this reunion, but it was very meta. Franchise heavy.

[B]

I'm enjoying. Me too.

[A]

Especially now that Jennifer Tilly and Kathy showed up.

[B]

And my work has been light recently, so I don't mind, you know, tuning in on a Thursday for hoba.

[A]

I was really shocked. I mean, it was not a major reunion, this wasn't a major moment. But I was curious to see, like, how the conversation between Sutton and Jennifer Tilly was going to go because Jennifer Tilly's such a good friend. And when I compiled all the moments where, like, Sutton barked at her this season, it was kind of painful to watch. Like, she's a really nice woman, Jennifer Tilly. And the fact that Jennifer Tilly apologized was shocking to me.

[B]

Yeah, I, I just think their friendship is like so much deeper than the show.

[A]

More important. Yeah.

[B]

Even if Sutton was like, acting out of turn, like, Jennifer knows her well enough and like being with your friend on a show like this, like, I just think it tweaks having a real friendship and like, like not kicking someone when they're down. And just because like you went when crazy didn't mean that I needed to go and like open my mouth to people that don't like you, you know?

[A]

Yeah. But the apology should have been bigger and first from Sutton. Yeah. For like being so demeaning to her friend.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Now I thought it was a really interesting, like, window into Kyle and Mauricio. I feel like I have a better understanding now because their situation is extremely bizarre. He has no interest in getting back together with her. I think she would if he would. But they're not moving forward with the divorce legally and it's so clearly a financial thing because Kyle is 100% right. I feel like when we talk about like, like the whole stay at home mom culture, like, she's literally the embodiment of like, he is only successful because she held it the fuck down. And yes, he did launch the agency, like marketing wise on Beverly Hills Housewives, but more so they have four children. Like, he was able to build this business and he's pretty young. So successfully because she was at home holding it down, like, let's be real.

[B]

But also because of the. She wasn't just at home, like she was working. It was her name, it was her show, it was her circle of friends.

[A]

Her sister too. People don't forget. Mauricio started At Hilton and Highland. And that was kind of like the.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Initial.

[B]

But it's like her. She gave him the platform and the launching pad via the show and her connections to build the agency. So it's not even just because she was home raising the kids, which of course, like, is a full time job. Of course should be compensated in a situation like this. But like, the agency would not be the agency if he were not married to Kyle. Beverly Hills, period.

[A]

She is entitled to like, exactly half. Like, she is an equal partner. And I feel as though just like, like now my. My take on the situation is that he's definitely manipulating and using the fact that, like, Kyle still, like, holds a candle for him and would love for her family to get back together using that, like, sort of glimmer of hope to not file. And using Kyle's being very generous because she absolutely can and should walk away with half the company. I think that would be devastating for Mauricio. And so, yeah, they don't have to yet because neither one of them are dating someone. And I don't know if Mauricio will ever get married again. I could see them being. Who was that woman? Diana.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Were they. Was she ever legally divorced?

[B]

Oh, I don't know, Danny.

[A]

Remember, she likes. She got half of her billionaire husbands, everything. But I don't know if they ever got divorced.

[B]

I think they still share, which was with a new guy. They were having babies.

[A]

She was dating that guy Angel.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So I guess for Mauricio, he really has to choose, like, what's more important to him, like his freedom or his business.

[A]

Like. Right. And I think right now it's his freedom. But he's still. I'm sorry, it's his business, but he still gets his freedom. That's what Rachel Zoe was saying. Like, he's. We see it sometimes publicly, but I think it's worse. Rachel was like, I see him out every single night. He's living a completely different life. And Kyle's like, sitting at home thinking that maybe one day they'll get back together.

[B]

Yeah. But if Kyle were to drop the hammer and be like, okay, like, I'm filing and I'm taking half of the agency, like, like, would he come home?

[A]

No.

[B]

So his freedom. I don't think so important than his

[A]

business, but she should lay the hammer down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She has nothing to. He stands to lose half. She stands to gain a lot. Like, she'll be fine.

[B]

Yeah. But she, It. You know, she's officially losing her family

[A]

and she doesn't want that and you know what? When I watched that scene back at Amanda's house, I remember thinking her reaction was, like, kind of nutty. But, like, seeing Portia at that desk, like, it was actually. It was heartbreaking.

[B]

And of course, like, the underlying threat is, like, if they never move. Moved into the big, fancy house, if they never, like, you know, just moved on up in this world and they just live. Continued their simple life, like, would they still be together if they never left that.

[A]

And Kyle really believes that? Yeah. She said if. If they had moved to Vail and he became a ski instructor, they would. She blames.

[B]

And.

[A]

No, she blames, like, the fame and the fortune on their demise.

[B]

If they hadn't left that house, would they still be together?

[A]

I think the house, like. Well, they still would have ascended into, like, a different rank of wealth and a different, like, circle of people. So I don't think it was the house that. It's what house represents.

[B]

Yeah. So I think for her, that's really painful to just, like, be in a place that wear the best years of your life and you can't get it back.

[A]

No, it's really sad.

[B]

But I did understand his reaction more now when I watched it. I was like, wow, he could give two about all of this. But her explaining, like, he's really just interested in the property and what they've done within. That's his. I. I could. I could see that. Like, oh, hey, it's not emotional for him. It's just. It's just.

[A]

But he's obviously emotionally dis. Disconnected from Kyle and their former life. And she's so connected to it. And that is just like, you're never gonna work when that's the case.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah. Amanda Francis, I kind of like her.

[B]

I like her, too. And I feel like we also, like, forget she's kind of a new mama, you know? Yeah.

[A]

And she's young.

[B]

She's young. I think she has. Baby. She has a lot of kids. Like, she's just doing her best, you know, and she is, like, the breadwinner of her family. Like, that's a lot of pressure.

[A]

Like, pressure.

[B]

I think she has five kids. She's the sole provider. They're living in Beverly Hills. Like, mama's gotta hustle.

[A]

And I sort of appreciate her overall demeanor of, like, anytime she's accused of, like, being corny or, like, showing off her bags, she's just like, yeah, well, I thought that's what we're supposed to do. This is like a show about rich women.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like I Feel like she doesn't hide.

[B]

Yeah, she owned all of her stuff. When someone said to her, like, I didn't. Like, you did that, she's like, okay,

[A]

yeah, she apologized to Dorit, and I thought also, Dorit owed her a little bit of an apology. Like, it just would have been nice. I just want to say, like, the night at Rachel Zo's, like, like, I'm sorry. Like, just to say Dorit didn't apologize for anything, and I'm actually firmly team to read, but, like, it's okay to apologize for, like, little things.

[B]

I agree. I think it's important to apologize sometimes because no one's right.

[A]

That was, like, a big check in Amanda's column. She. I forget what it was for, but she was like, oh, no, you're right. I'm sorry.

[B]

And I maintain I felt this way watching the season, and I thought it was because I, like, like, wasn't paying enough attention, but I maintain that, like, Amanda speaking at the table after, like, other people said it, and then she said it too. And now it's like, Amanda's big crime. Everybody needs to let it go. Sutton said it. Kyle. Yeah, Amanda said it. Like, who cares that Amanda said it? The point is she does it the least relevant. It hurts more when it's your real friends saying stuff about you. So, like, it's really not a big deal. Everyone harping on it for episodes this season that, you know, she took what you said and said it, like, shut up. I find it really boring. And it's, like, really not that deep.

[A]

Also, Amanda, a Bose, to me, has only really had, like, one bad moment, and it keeps getting worse. She shouldn't have come for Amanda, like, at all. And now we're talking about, like, her short tenure and her answer To Andy about CMOs are supposed to be short tenure was really bad. I've never, like, thought anything negatively about her career. Like, like, she's boss, boss, boss. And now, like, that answer made me want to do a deep dive. Like, that's not true.

[B]

No.

[A]

And then when not only her saying that they're supposed to be short tenure, but that, like, when things go wrong in a company, more often than not, the CMO gets blamed. That's just.

[B]

Well, she said two completely convicting things. She said, yeah, they were short jobs because it was mission accomplished. Came in, did the mission, I'm out. Which is about.

[A]

Also, you're getting blamed.

[B]

But if you're doing a good job, like, no one would let you go.

[A]

The stock doesn't fall. No, that was and then sometimes you

[B]

get blamed for when things go wrong. So you said two different things. And when ChatGPT did say that, like, that is a valid criticism. Like working for so many companies, like, isn't for short.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You know, then like, you're just going different places until you're found out.

[A]

Yeah. No. And it's like, I don't want to look into it, but I fear that your answer sort of intrigued me.

[B]

And also everyone like using chat CBT as the end all be all. Like, first of all, when she said to her, chatgpt, who is Bozema St John? Chat knows that you are bosom of St John. So do you think, yeah, Chad knows who you are, who they know they're talking to you if you ever sent them a contract.

[A]

That's scary.

[B]

Say, what's my name?

[A]

What's my full name? I don't actually have access to your personal identity unless you explicitly tell me in conversation if you'd like me to use a specific name, just tell me.

[B]

Let me see if my chat knows my name. How would they not know what's my name?

[A]

I said full name. You haven't told me your name in this conversation, so I actually don't know it.

[B]

Oh, what's my name? Your name is Jackie. And you chat a lot. You chat like more than I do. And also I would imagine Bose uses chat a lot because that's her first instinct is let's ask Chat gbt.

[A]

Yes, she must. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So like, if you've ever had chat format an email from you with the right from your name. Like, like I actually haven't.

[A]

And I also haven't said chat a contract, so maybe I actually have not just actually told them my name.

[B]

That's crazy. Good for you.

[A]

Should I say, Should I say my name is John?

[B]

Well, you know what, you could ask Chad about Bozema. You asked Chad?

[A]

Yeah. Who?

[B]

Ask chat.

[A]

I don't need to know. The thing is, I had no chat, no suspicions about her chat Taylor to

[B]

hype her up is all I'm saying.

[A]

So that's what Andy was saying.

[B]

Her being shocked that they got different

[A]

answers is not shocking at all. But she should stop barking up that tree because the only time she's ever looked bad is coming for Amanda. And I love how she's giving this like actually brain dead answer about CMOs being short tenure and Dorit sitting there nodding. She's so supportive. Yes, exactly. Cmo.

[B]

And because that's her best friend. Like, you should support your friends even when they're wrong. I firmly do believe that.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

And also, just like last week, her saying that her business wasn't a failure was actually a charity exercise. Like the spin this.

[A]

Yeah. It's like having. Sorry. An online course is an online course because it's not free.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If it was free, that's a charitable endeavor. She said it's something she loses money on.

[B]

Yeah, it should be free. Hysterical.

[A]

Yeah. Kind of a bad look for Bose. And she really has not had a bad look, like, since her time on the show started.

[B]

Yeah. But she just, like, went too hard with Amanda, and at the end of the day, it's like, if people want to buy her courses, like, what's the problem?

[A]

It's punching down too. Like, you're up here like, yeah.

[B]

With your Uber PepsiCo. Like, like, let the little course girl go.

[A]

Let the course go.

[B]

Let her. Like, who is she hurting with her courses? Like, people have free will.

[A]

Well, New York magazine just did, like, a big article. She's. They say that she's, like, a grifter who's, like, funding her own life, like, manipulating women into buying her courses. But free will, like, sorry.

[B]

I believe women are smart. You know, I think that, like, that works if you think women have, like, no agency and don't know what to do themselves or their money or their time. But, like, I think that you can pick and choose what you want to do and.

[A]

And if you want to choose. Amanda Francis.com.

[B]

go ahead.

[A]

What else happened? This reunion. Erica, like, piped in a little bit to defend, to read, which I appreciate it.

[B]

On the point that I could care less.

[A]

I know, I know. But I need them to work it out.

[B]

I know, but you could tell there's a lot of love there.

[A]

I know there's no love between Kyle and Dorit.

[B]

And it's like Erica got set off and got really nasty in Italy, and so, like, she was wrong. Even the wet. Even when she was just like, why are you talking to your kids? We all have kids. You think yours are more important. Like, blah, blah, blah. Like, she was. She, like, lost. I think any sympathy there. But, like, Dorit obviously set her off. And, like, Dorit can apologize to for saying, like, whatever she said that brought Erica to that level, you know?

[A]

No. Dorit's incapable of taking ownership of, like, small things, and that will be her downfall because I think overall, she has been wronged by her friends. But she's also not perfect. The showing up late and she can't just, like, apologize. Oh, I'm so sorry. Like, It's. It's so rude to be late. It is my biggest pet peeve. If you're a chronically late person. I'm sorry, that's just you saying, like, I am more important. Like, I agree with what everyone's saying. So just apologize. Like, it's so little. We don't think you're trying to hurt people. So, like the fact that she can't even give like one little apology. Everyone in the group is saying, I'm sorry for that.

[B]

Yeah, like this.

[A]

She can't even do that. It's pissing me off.

[B]

Yeah, agreed.

[A]

But she looks great.

[B]

She does look great.

[A]

Her hair looks like, fabulous. I love the bangle.

[B]

Everyone's like, I think Kyle looks really beautiful.

[A]

Me too. And she looks young. Like she is a 50, 60 something year old woman wearing a sleeveless dress. Her arms look killer. Her face looks tight and like, she looks good.

[B]

Erica looks beautiful.

[A]

Always glam. Like to. I love that Jennifer Tilly.

[B]

Yeah. Sutton looks very good. And when they flash back to. I don't know if. Because you were watching on your phone. They flash back to last reunion when they were talking about the drinking. And you can see I missed that. You can see she looks. Looks much better. And I. I feel like it's because of the drinking.

[A]

Yeah, well, that'll do it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, talk about an over. Like, if you want to just look better, drink less.

[A]

No can do, my friend.

[B]

No, you don't drink a lot. I'm not talking to you.

[A]

No, I don't. I had like half a glass of wine last night.

[B]

Slay. Red wine. You posted a cup of red wine.

[A]

Oh, well, because I just posted a picture of the table and everyone was commenting. I guess the guy sitting next to me had like the biggest. You're supposed to fill a glass of red wine. Like Max half. It was filled to the bread, so I was just like remarking on it because everyone was like cracking up at that glass of wine.

[B]

Oh, that's really funny, people. Eagle eyed viewers.

[A]

I know. So part three, like, sure, whatever. That's all I have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, the place looks beautiful.

[B]

Well, it always does.

[A]

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