First Chooseday in May: Tuesday, May 6th, 2025

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Podcast Summary: The Toast – First Chooseday in May: Tuesday, May 6th, 2025

Hosts: Claudia Oshry & Jackie Oshry Podcast: The Toast by Dear Media Release Date: May 6, 2025

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Introduction

In the inaugural episode of "The Toast" for May, hosts Claudia Oshry and Jackie Oshry dive straight into their favorite topic of the day: the much-anticipated Met Gala. Setting a lively and candid tone, the duo promises to deliver the "best five things you need to know" to kickstart listeners' mornings.

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Met Gala Theme and Overview

[00:26] Claudia Oshry: "Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. Or should I say the first Tuesday in May."

The conversation quickly shifts to the recent Met Gala, emphasizing its significance as the first major event of the month. Claudia and Jackie discuss the overarching theme, "Super Fine Tailoring Black Style," highlighting its focus on menswear, suiting, and the celebration of Black identities within the Atlantic Diaspora.

[15:16] Jackie Oshry: “This year the event celebrated Super Fine Tailoring Black Style...”

Claudia praises the theme's execution, noting that despite initial fears of confusion—given that menswear often receives less attention—the attendees embraced it wholeheartedly, resulting in a fabulous display of tailored outfits.

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Live Stream and Event Execution

[05:06] Claudia Oshry: "And I felt as though she sort of rested on her laurels this year..."

The hosts express mixed feelings about the Met Gala's live stream, criticizing technical issues and the lack of star power during the broadcast. They highlight how major names like Rihanna chose to miss the live stream, leading to diminished excitement and engagement.

[08:32] Claudia Oshry: "I just have some harsh words for Lala as well."

Claudia and Jackie offer constructive criticism towards the event's hosts, particularly Lala Anthony, whom they feel could benefit from an overhaul to enhance the interviewing experience.

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Best and Worst Dressed

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to evaluating the gala's attendees based on their adherence to the theme and overall style execution.

Best Dressed:

1. Rihanna

   • [18:07] Claudia Oshry: "She looks fabulous... she looks gorgeous."
   • Despite missing the live stream, Rihanna's outfit, which subtly showcased her pregnancy, received unanimous praise for being perfectly on theme and elegantly executed.

2. Teyana Taylor

   • [24:07] Claudia Oshry: "Best dress, like. And it was great that she showed up first..."
   • Teyana's ensemble was lauded for embodying the twelve characteristics of Black Dandyism, seamlessly blending style with cultural significance.

3. Zendaya

   • [25:59] Jackie Oshry: "She really was, like, 7ft tall."
   • Zendaya stole the spotlight with her tailored white suit, exuding confidence and sophistication, making her a standout performer of the night.

4. Janelle Monae

   • [50:11] Jackie Oshry: "She's a shoe in for this theme."
   • Janelle's innovative two-dimensional jacket and overall outfit perfectly captured the essence of the theme, earning her rave reviews.

Worst Dressed:

1. Heidi Klum

   • [40:27] Claudia Oshry: "This dress was crazy... It is so ugly."
   • Heidi's choice was met with disappointment as her ensemble did not align with the theme, appearing bland and ill-fitting.

2. Ray Jean Paul

   • [50:58] Jackie Oshry: "It's so ugly... she is the perfect person to be invited to this affair."
   • Ray Jean Paul's outfit was criticized for lacking creativity and failing to embody the event's sartorial spirit.

3. Gail King

   • [60:02] Jackie Oshry: "It is so ugly. It is so ill-fitting."
   • Gail King's dress was deemed the worst of the night, with Claudia and Jackie expressing strong disapproval over its fit and aesthetic.

4. BB Rexha

   • [57:14] Jackie Oshry: "This is quite terrible."
   • BB Rexha's outfit was another entry in the worst-dressed list, criticized for its lack of adherence to the theme and overall presentation.

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Notable Discussions on Specific Celebrities

Rihanna: Beyond her stunning attire, Rihanna's reveal of her pregnancy sparked conversations about celebrating motherhood within high-profile events.

Pharrell Williams: As a co-chair and designer for many attendees, Pharrell's influence was evident. His collaboration with Black artist Henry Taylor was highlighted, particularly in Lisa (from Blackpink) who faced unexpected backlash over her outfit's intricate embroidery.

Zendaya vs. Other Attendees: The contrast between Zendaya's impeccable execution and other less coherent outfits underscored the varying levels of commitment to the theme among celebrities.

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Met-Adjacent News

Beyond the Met Gala recaps, Claudia and Jackie delve into related celebrity news:

• Timothée Chalamet's Absence: Chalamet missed the gala to watch a crucial Knicks playoff game, leading to light-hearted banter about balancing high-profile events with personal interests.

• Kim Kardashian's Stylist Change: The hosts express anticipation for Kim Kardashian's new stylist, hoping for a fresh and avant-garde approach to her red carpet appearances.

• Influencer Representation: Critique on the limited presence of internet influencers at the event, lamenting the absence of figures like Addison Rae and Dixie D'Amelio.

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[12:03] Jackie Oshry: "Yeah."
[66:15] Claudia Oshry: "...Taylor Farms and the chopped salad kits..."

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Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Claudia and Jackie reflect on the Met Gala's outcomes, expressing a mix of admiration for well-executed outfits and disappointment over lackluster appearances. They tease upcoming segments and promise to continue their candid and engaging discussions in future episodes.

[80:59] Claudia Oshry: "Bye."

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Notable Quotes:

• Claudia Oshry [00:34]: "It is darn good. We have our Met Gala extravaganza today."
• Jackie Oshry [03:57]: "I think her being like everyone on pause, I'm putting my family first. I think it's a great example for women."
• Claudia Oshry [31:24]: "I'm sorry, I have some harsh words for Lala as well."
• Jackie Oshry [43:14]: "This is so, like, stupid when Kim does it."
• Claudia Oshry [70:51]: "The Internet is going crazy over Lisa's panties."

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Final Thoughts:

"The Toast" episode provides an unfiltered and humorous take on the 2025 Met Gala, blending fashion critique with personal anecdotes and broader cultural observations. Claudia and Jackie Oshry deliver an engaging narrative that balances praise with constructive criticism, ensuring listeners are both entertained and informed.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off.

[Jackie Oshry]

Swirly.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

I sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. Or should I say the first Tuesday in May. Very big day here at the Toast Studios. Hey, Jax, how you. Darn.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is darn good. We have our Met Gala extravaganza today. Last night was the first Monday night in May.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. And since, you know, Joan Rivers has passed and everybody's afraid of being mean, Jackie and I are here just to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Let everyone know, take up the mantle.

[Claudia Oshry]

We will do it. We will say what needs to be said. Even though I actually don't have that many mean thoughts from last night. No, meaning I actually have a. I have one overarching main thought.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, that's.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's. Sorry. No, that's mean. Everything else is super positive. But one of my rants that I need to go on is, like, a niche mean comment. But other than that, like, I actually thought it was quite fabulous.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. What I liked about the theme, and we'll get into it, is that some people executed it excellently and they looked amazing. And then the people who didn't just looked a little boring. But nobody looked bad, which was nobody was a go. Nobody looked like a clown, like, actually who was clown.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, unfortunately, we're going to save our best and worst stress, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I have my best, of course. But worse, I'm going to wait till we, like, evaluate everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, obviously. True to charity fashion. I had my worst before I had my best.

[Jackie Oshry]

My worst is Ben Platt, even though he wasn't there, because he's my worst every year. And wherever he was last night, I'm sure he was looking terrible.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love that. No, I agree. Like, everybody really got on board. I thought for sure it was going to be a confusing theme since it's menswear and, like, men are always doing the absolute least at the Met Gala. But I thought it was a fabulous theme. I love how everybody executed it. I have so many thoughts. I watched the Vogue live stream. We're going to go through all the looks. Every year, people ask us, like, on YouTube, why don't you put up the photos of that celebrity's outfits? And it's like, girl, we don't want to get sued. So what we always do and what we're going to do this year, if you look in the description of the episode, wherever you're watching it. We're going to post the Vogue link that we are personally going through. We're going to go in order scrolling. We're not going to go through everybody.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're not going to go through everybody.

[Claudia Oshry]

There's some true nuggets and the people we hate. But class, we'll scroll through together and we'll go through all the outfits. And I'm sure all the stories are like, Met Gala related because everybody was just out and about last night. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

There was some news that emerged from the Met Gala. You know, most notably, Rihanna's pregnant.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

So you can enjoy a little pregnancy with Rihanna.

[Claudia Oshry]

She got in just at the. The 11th hour. How far, how far along do you think she was? Like, based on her belly, like, five months.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think less. Maybe like four months.

[Claudia Oshry]

But it's like her third pregnancy. So you, like, look bigger. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So let's say four.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's like, kind of always doing the most and I need her to stop. Like, I've been thinking a lot during my pregnancy about the fact that she did the super bowl pregnant. Meanwhile, like, literally me getting up to go to the bathroom is the Super Bowl. And yeah, here she is again, like, doing the Mecca. Like, I kind of need her to stop.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I know, but it's really sweet.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is. And it's like, it, it is really nice to see somebody, like, use all of her big moments to promote her motherhood. You know, she's not promoting Fenty. She's promoting just like her family.

[Jackie Oshry]

I also feel like there's a big conversation. Well, always, because people are always talking about women, but also like, just women in general and becoming moms and working and how do you be a successful woman and then have children? And like, people push it off. And I love that she's just doing it like, bada bing, bada boom. Another one.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, if I had a billion dollar company, I would also be doing it like, on at all.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, no, now's not the time. We've got to take Fenty to the next level. Like, there's always more you can do. So I think her being like everyone on pause, I'm putting my family first. I think it's a great example for women.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is. But, like, it's not relatable because I think so much of what people, not everyone, but a lot of women, like, wait financially, right? Like, it's a lot of pressure to, like, have a baby and it's really expensive. And that's what Mindy Kaling said once. And she was Like, I'm so lucky. Like, I literally designed my life. I made all this money, and then I was able to have kids the way that I wanted. Like, that's not how it normally works for people. So, like, yes, it's really inspiring, but it's not applicable to everyone because I think a lot of people wait for.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, if you can't afford a child yet. But I'm talking about, like, women who are kind of crushing it in their careers, who are like, this is not like they have. It's not about the money. It's like they want to reach all these benchmarks before they have kids. And it just never feels like the right time, and it really never is the right time. At a certain point, you have to, like, make the choice. Like, I'm going to put this on pause. And so that Rihanna's doing it one after the other. I think it's a great example.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's nice. It's idyllic, for sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

We also have Dear Toaster. So it's kind of like a really busy day here at hq.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it is. And I think we could get into Mecca, because that was my entire evening was watching this forlorn livestream where nobody showed up and everybody was late and the interviews were genuinely painful, and I just wanted to see Luke's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, and that's kind of one of my overarching points too. I don't feel like. I feel like for so many years, the Met Gala was like this really exclusive, strict, no phones, really, like, sort of hoity, toity, highbrow affair. And last night I was like, okay, people can show up wearing whatever they want. They can show up whenever they want. They can. I saw videos inside. Like, it's always been. You can't see inside the guest list. That's my. My one mean thought. I have a list of people who absolutely should not have been invited. Like, it just felt like that sort of mean, exclusive fashiony allure is gone. Like, it's too much. Like, everyone can come, come whatever, wear whatever the you want. Like, no, there are rules. Where are the rules?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, especially when you watch the live stream. And the biggest names didn't make it in time to be on the live stream. Even though it was three hours. If you just saw the people that walk the carpet before 9pm There, the star power was not there.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I was wondering why so many people. Like, there was a bunch of star power in the very beginning, which doesn't really happen on red carpets. Everybody shows up at the end. But I Guess it's like a logistics nightmare and people just got there just not to miss it. Then I kept thinking, I'm like, zendaya's inside for three hours waiting for the party to start.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sure there's party happening. I'm sure there's food and drinks and music.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not the official performances. The exhibit, like, it doesn't really start.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sure there's things to do. You could take like a bunch of. You could do the videos that they do. I'm sure it's way less stressful to get there on time and be a little short at the party than to be like Kim in the bus with her security stepping on her dress in literally what looks like the worst mood ever. Being so late and missing the live stream and not getting to chat with Lala, her bestie at the top of the steps.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I'm sorry, I have some harsh words for Lala as well. I think maybe it's time to take a year off. You asking every single person the same exact question. When you heard that this was the theme, what were you most excited about? And then every single person, unless it was a person who was really well versed in black dandyism, every single person had the same answer. I was just really looking forward to seeing how everybody else was going to interpret it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I guess, like, if you're just going to ask the one question, then really, anybody could do that job. However, I actually didn't have an issue with Lala. I think she's great at her job. She is a professional host. She's friends with so many people who go there. They obviously feel comfortable with her and it's assured to sings like inoffensive conversation.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's how I've always felt about Lala. She's the perfect person to have at the top. She's professional, everybody knows her. And I felt as though she sort of rested on her laurels this year and she, like, I think they need to take the job away from her because now it's just like, she's come to expect it and she's not doing her best.

[Jackie Oshry]

But the odds that they give it to someone who's going to do a better job than her are incredibly slim.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, so then Teyana and Ego and Wonam down downtown, downstairs, Tiana Taylor speaking into a microphone is not for you. I think that you have more skills and I don't think you should do this again. I thought Ego and Rodham was great and I felt like Tiana kept, like talking over her and every ego knows everyone because most of these people have come in and done snl, so they could. That was, like, the initial. They always had something to talk about, whether it be snl. And so I think she did a good job. And Tanner Taylor, like, might have been my best dress, but she was one of the worst interviewers, and she could not figure out how to talk into the microphone. And I just feel like that's kind of basic when you're an interviewer. So the Vogue livestream. I didn't watch E. I watch Vogue exclusively because it's literally the Vogue Mac Al. I don't know why I would be watching E when she's, like, on the carpet, like, with the worst access flowers. Vogue has the best access. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And they have two stops. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just. I think they needed an overhaul in terms of their audio, their video, and their. Their hired talent.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. I didn't like the Tiana and Eggo interviews. She might have been my best dressed as well or one of them, but not my best host interviewer. Yeah, those so. And also, I thought that they made Lala look even better.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, they did. They were just. They were having way more tech issues down there. Like, I did not hear one thing. And every person who came by, like, wasn't told to talk into the microphone, although I assume it's just sort of like. It's just kind of understood, like, we're giving you a microphone. Talk into it. But they had this booth. It should have been completely, like, soundproofed. It was really poor quality.

[Jackie Oshry]

But also, like, when Lalo was talking to someone and their mic was low, she put her mic in.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, that's professional.

[Jackie Oshry]

A professional. She gave us.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Her mic.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I just wish the conversations were more interesting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. But we're there for the fashion and judge. We shall.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, we shall. I wish there were more, like, true uggo looks that I could read to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Build because it wasn't an UG night.

[Claudia Oshry]

It wasn't an ugg night. And I feel like everybody really tried to toe the line of being, like, respectful and pargy. So, Yeah, I don't have that many mean thoughts, but there is. There are two people who were so hideously dressed.

[Jackie Oshry]

I need to know who it was.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you want to guess?

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe I need to remember. Like, I need to look at the picture. So maybe as we're. But it's definitely men. Because I just feel like you wouldn't be going so hard on women.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is two women.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, how exciting.

[Claudia Oshry]

You think I wouldn't be going hard on a woman.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. Like, you're calling them ugly.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, you're just going, I didn't say ugly. I said, I didn't say they were ugly.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're calling them looks ugly.

[Claudia Oshry]

I said, I'll go, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I just feel like you would go harder with men and I'm the men.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I don't know. Men don't make an impact. They do. Like, they do nothing. Like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but at least for this theme, this was actually, actually, I guess you could have shown up like in a handsome tux and been fine, but no one did that because there was so much for men to work with.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, it was an easier night for men, which has never happened.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But without further ado to do, let's get into the Fast 5 stories and met Gala recap that you need to.

[Claudia Oshry]

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Yeah.

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you.

[Claudia Oshry]

TLP ones all right, let's dive in again. We are on the Vogue. Check the link in our description.

[Jackie Oshry]

Follow along with us Follow along with us. As a reminder, this year the event celebrated Super Fine Tailoring Black Style, which is on view at the Met from May 10 to October 26. The new showcase explores the importance of clothing and style to the formation of black identities in the Atlantic Diaspora and will be arranged by 12 characteristics of black Dandy Ism to reflect the theme. This year, the dress code for the Met Gala was dubbed Tailored for you, a sartorial mood that is purposefully designed to provide guidance and invite creative interpretation. The exhibition holds a strong focus on menswear and suiting and so we saw many Met Gala looks leaning into tailoring. That was one of the words of the night. Tailor made.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, if. If you wore any type of like suit tuxedo, like you were automatically in dress code marked safe. Like, you can. You can be in theme and then we can decide from there. Some people, like, truly showed up saying. And they. They were admitting this in her interview. Anne Hathaway, like, you know, I'm not in theme. I'm here to inspire.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was. She took a page out of Andre Leon Talley's book, who is like, an example of black dance. She just went, like, very direct. Inspired by him. So didn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

But how. She literally didn't explain how her outfit was inspired by him. It was Carolina Herrera, the big.

[Jackie Oshry]

The big collared shirt. And I think she thought that and would love it. You. You will love it.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what she said. She said, I just wore this outfit because I knew Andre would love it. I'm sorry. Like, that's not in theme. I also have to call out Queen Miley Cyrus. Like, seriously, try less to be in theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I'm sure, like, if you looked at the exhibit and the 12 examples of black dandyism, like, maybe there you could figure it out. But I do think some people, like, broke off a piece of the theme. A piece for Serena Williams, because every dandy needs a gown as well.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right, right, right.

[Jackie Oshry]

So, like, yeah, sometimes you don't come at it, like, the whole thing. Some people were very obvious. They wore a dress that had, like, a. A suit on top of it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Or like a tie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. But sometimes you go into a niche category, and that works too. So I wasn't. Anna Hathaway was someone to me who I didn't think she. Like, she wasn't my best dress by any means, but I thought she looked really nice and really beautiful. She was able to tie back to the theme and, like, that's great. Like, I thought her outfit was like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Giving dinner dance at your son's school.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was, like, more boring than it was bad.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it wasn't on theme. Like, her interview. Like, that was good media training. But, like, I heard what you said. Like, you weren't in them.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I feel like she's resting on her new face a lot. Everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, everyone's talking about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

That she did something with her face. No one can identify what. Which is the best kind of new face. And she looks really beautiful. So I think all she had to do was just show up as herself.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed.

[Jackie Oshry]

And people are loving her right now. So she's just going with it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And I'm here, like, to be a hater and say, like, your outfit wasn't in theme and it wasn't that pretty.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're not very pretty and you're not.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you're not very bright. Not me saying I didn't have that many mean thoughts. Lol.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, first up in the vote article is Rihanna, who of course missed the live stream as she always does, but walk the carpet, took photos, and showed us her new belly that she showed us earlier in the day.

[Claudia Oshry]

So my issue with the live stream actually doesn't include Rihanna. Like, Rihanna is too cool to care. She misses every live stream. It's not like I think she missed it on purpose. Like, I don't think she cared. So I would have loved to have seen her on the live stream, but that's Rihanna. Like, she's too cool for school. I'm not talking about Rihanna when I'm talking about all the celebrities that we missed. She looks fabulous. Like, I don't know what we expected. Is it my favorite mellow look of hers ever? No, but I love the belly. The outfit is completely in theme. She looks gorgeous. Like, literally no notes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. 10 out of 10. Beautiful. Love the. The belly. Love.

[Claudia Oshry]

Next up is one of our hosts, Coleman Domingo. And I'm so glad he outfit changed, because when he showed up in this big blue robe, I was like, this is so silly.

[Jackie Oshry]

This is really on tally.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know, but, like, it's also just not beautiful. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

It's. Yeah, I. But it is not. Not beautiful. What do you mean?

[Claudia Oshry]

He, like, it's just, like, it's just not. It's not. It's just a robe. Like, it's just. I don't even know what I'm looking at. I was like, I was let down because he is, like, every award season.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, he's a chair.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's a chair. But he's also, like, one of the best dressed men in Hollywood. And that's why, like, he was chosen for a chair, and that's why there was, like, a lot of hype. And then he showed up in this with the bib and the robe, and I was like, oh, Andre Leon Talley. And then he took off the robe and had, like, a really fab suit on underneath. And all was well with Turti.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I just want to say I read Andre Leon Talley's memoir.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, you did.

[Jackie Oshry]

So if you're finding that I, like, I'm just very bragging about my knowledge of Andre Leon Talley. It's because I read his memoir, and by the way, it's really good. I would highly recommend it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm glad that I read it. Like, Just not just in time. I read it a few years ago, but considering this theme, I'm glad I read it.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you say that this is Andre Leon Talley inspired because why, like, he.

[Jackie Oshry]

Would wear a big blue cape like this?

[Claudia Oshry]

He did wear, like, lots of, like, robes and capes and, like, oversized. I don't know if I ever, like, I don't think he would ever wear this.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it's an interpretation. You know, he didn't take it out of Andre's closet, but it's an interpretation. And then Coleman did change, like, how many times? I feel like I kept seeing him in different outfits.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I only saw a second one. But he was at a lot of the pre Met Gala events because he's a host. So you probably saw like a lot of paparazzi pictures of him in, like, official Met Gala garb.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So then he did take off the robe and he stunned with another look, slayed like.

[Claudia Oshry]

That was a perfect, A perfect look for the theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Next we have Lewis Hamilton, another co chair of the gala, straight from F1 to the Metropolitan Museum. Looking great.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's so cute. Handsome young fella.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's good.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's good. Yeah. I, I don't have that many thoughts on, like, men's wear. Sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

Me neither. Unless you did something so crazy, which I thought, or Colman Domingo's bib was like a little nutty.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's so crazy. I didn't find it to be nutty. Next we have Pharrell, who is also a co chair, of course. Big figure of the night because a lot of people wore. Were dressed by him. They wore Louis Vuitton from his collections. He was just like, very much inspired a lot of people. For the evening. He dressed Sabrina.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. He did great work. He dressed a lot of really great.

[Jackie Oshry]

People who was wearing. Was dressed by him or wearing Louis Vuitton. Seriously looked amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

His outfit is on theme. It's well tailored. It's handsome. It's not crazy. It's very much. He is a designer. Designers aren't supposed to be like, hey, look at me. So I think it's really an appropriate outfit.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Next we have ASAP Rocky. This is the first time I'm seeing him because I did not see him on the carpet.

[Claudia Oshry]

I saw him on the carpet and I was just reminded he's such a handsome young man. Like his face, he's really very handsome. A lot of people were quick to notice. I think another, like, if you wore a suit like you were you Know, in theme, if you had a cane, you were also in.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And so he had a. A cane that. The handle looks like a gun. It's like a bedazzled gun, which is obviously very cool. It is a really crazy thing to do because he was just, like, cleared of gun charges.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that is crazy. It's also an umbrella.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh. And it was raining in New York City last night.

[Jackie Oshry]

Purpose.

[Claudia Oshry]

He looked very handsome. He got there hours before his wife.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's so funny. I didn't even see him. I actually would have expected he would have done a little more. This, like, feels a little low key for him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I think also, like, a cornerstone of black dandyism is color and, like, having fun with color and texture. And I saw a lot. Just a lot of people wore black.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Which is fine. And it's good and in theme, but I feel like he's someone who could have had a lot more fun with color.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Agreed. Next we have Emma Chamberlain, who. This is one of two looks she wound up changing into Courage's look for her interviews and was sourced from ebay. There's a big ebay partnership last night, and Emma is at the helm of it. She looks cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is not for me. She looks like the mom from Lizzie McGuire.

[Jackie Oshry]

She does. Well, that's. That's a statement on her hair. Not the dress.

[Claudia Oshry]

The glasses too? No, the dress. So, like, three different people wore an iteration of this dress. Suki Waterhouse, Zuri hall, and Emma Chamberlain. Like a halter tuxedo suit dress.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like a. Like a. Suits taped onto a dress.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Like, with no back. And so I don't love it. And if I had to choose one of my favorites, it was Suki Waterhouse. This era Emma Chamberlain's in is just not my personal error. I feel like she always. She's like a shoe in. She always is going to be the first one. And I thought she was on the carpet first because she hosts the red carpet, but I didn't see her hosting.

[Jackie Oshry]

But then she went and spoke to Tiana and Ego and she said she was hosting, but I didn't see maybe.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like a tick tock.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe like a tick tock.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just, I. I expect a lot from her. I like, I expect a lot from her. And this is just mid.

[Jackie Oshry]

This feels like Emma to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. It feels like current Emma, which is not my personal vibe.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Next. Lala Anthony.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't really have thoughts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, I. I don't have thought. Like, I don't love it. But she Looks nice and beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she's a great girl.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's a great gal. She is.

[Claudia Oshry]

She has.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love her. Teyana Taylor looked amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Best dress, like. And it was great that she showed up first because, like, I think if people were confused about the theme or didn't understand the theme, like, she is practical application of policy.

[Jackie Oshry]

And it has many of the elements of black dandyism. So we have cane, we have suit, we have cape, we have top hat, we have feather, we have pinstripe.

[Claudia Oshry]

Pinstripe is another thing. Like, you were. If you wore a pinstripe, you were good. The hat, too.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think she actually has, like, all 12. I don't know how many elements there are. I feel like maybe 12. I think she has 12.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's definitely.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, flower.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's a top. Top two. Like, she really looks.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, she's top two for you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Top three. She also. So much of black dandyism, I feel, is how you carry yourself. And that's something I was feeling the whole night, because when they were showing, like, images and references, everyone was like, they weren't trying so hard. Right. Like, this was just like a natural expression of your style, and they weren't like. And so when all these, like, celebrities were on the red carpet, like, doing so much, like, posing so hard and outfit changes, I was like, that's like the opposite of black dandyism. Black dandyism is very much like, swagger. Right. And just, like, it's how you carry yourself. And that's why Tiana really slayed, because you just saw. Saw her walking, like, this outfit. She was wearing the outfit. The outfit wasn't wearing her.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And maybe there were some people doing too much. And I think also now thinking about it that way, there are people not doing enough who maybe were like, a little, like, meek and.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hunched over and not feeling confident.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And so that's why Teyana is such a. A well done look. Because obviously the outfit's completely on the inside out, but she's carrying it too. Like, it's also an attitude, I feel.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. I agree. Next, Agon Wodom.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought she looked great. Oh, like, I have no. I have no issues with this.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't love it, but it's like, yeah, no issue. Cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's not offensive. Oh, we need to move on to Zendaya next Sunday.

[Jackie Oshry]

So she showed everyone up, put everyone to shame. She literally was, like 7ft tall. I don't know if she's that tall and she was wearing skills, but even when she was standing in the line waiting to take pictures, like, head and shoulders above everyone else. Literally and metaphorically.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yep. I. She was the one who really made me realize, like, how silly everybody else looked, because I saw her. Diana Ross was right in front of her. So I saw her waiting for Diana Ross to finish the carpet. So she's just standing there. She doesn't have a purse. She doesn't have, like, a million, you know, accessories like a cane. She's just, like, so chill. Her hands are by her side and she's just really carrying herself. So sophisticated. I'm like, oh, my God. All these other people look so silly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, she's like, she's not even trying without someone carrying her dress behind her and getting her hands on each side. Like, she's just comfortable, she's moving well, and she looks incredible.

[Claudia Oshry]

There was also an actress from Shogun, I forget her name, who wore something extremely similar. And everybody's like, I can't believe Law Roach would put Zendaya and something. I just want to be clear. These were two completely different outfits. Yes. They were both white suits and white hats, and they were, like, aesthetically pretty much the same. But it was literally that scene in Devil Wears Prada. Like, first of all, Zendaya's outfit is tailored, which is, I think, also, like, a huge point in her column for the theme. Like, the pants are tailored so perfectly. It's the crazy. Like, I've never seen a suit so well tailored. It's also giving Meredith Blake.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, I thought it was fantastic.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, fantastic.

[Jackie Oshry]

Top of the heap.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Next we have Haley Bieber, who I think really shocked everyone in the simplicity of the outfit. Looks like something you wear to dinner with the girls. She wore a blazer, a black blazer dress, tights and heels, and just beautiful glam. Like, didn't do the most. So I was surprised by that. But she looks great. But it's, like, not show stopping.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I mean, it's technically a blazer, so she's.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's a theme.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. I'm just not in a place in my life where I'm going to say negative things about Hailey Bieber. I just feel like she gets enough of that. So it was not my favorite look of hers. It was not super inspiring or different or risky, but maybe she just doesn't want to be talked about. Like, it's like, enough. So she just wanted to wear a safe outfit. That's what I. That's. If I'm reading too deep into this, that's what I'm reading, perhaps.

[Jackie Oshry]

It just feels like if you or I or anyone were invited to the Mecca, this was the theme, and you had to pick something from your closet. Like, this is what you would wear. You'd be in theme, but you're not gonna be, like, the most exciting. Like, remember when she wore that thong? Like, of course.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's the best look ever.

[Jackie Oshry]

The best look ever.

[Claudia Oshry]

So. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like it's actually reflective of, like, the place she's in in her life. She does not want to be spoken about.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, like, she had. She had to go to the Met Gala for work.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. She arrived with Kendall Jenner at the 11th hour. At the 11th hour, I think Kendall was waiting for her sisters. They were taking too long, and she was like. And Haley was ready because it took her two seconds, and they were like, okay, let's just go and make the carpet, and we'll go together.

[Claudia Oshry]

And, like, for Kendall, they all work in fashion, but, like, Kendall really is, like, the most fashiony of the sisters. Like, this is her actual job. So I don't think she could, like, afford to be rude and not show up or miss the carpet. She looks amazing in everything she wears. And I don't want to be negative, because, like, this is our. It's like a gray suit. Like, it's ugly. But I'm gonna be positive and say this. I like that she did something different.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's just a shame because you know how I feel about Kendall Jenner. At the Met Gala, she could actually wear anything. Anyone who's on the worst dress. Like, if you put it on Kendall, it would be the best dress. Like, she just has the. The face, the body, and the Persona of the mech. There are plenty of models who walk around. I'm not like, put that on. Kendall is the one.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Every.

[Claudia Oshry]

She. And she saves the carpet every year.

[Jackie Oshry]

She. Everything she wears. Like, I just see it differently on her. I'm sorry. And I'm biased towards her, but I feel like the rest of the year, I'm pretty critical of her. So I'm totally fine, like, just, like, propping her up here. So, again, like, she looks beautiful, and she is beautiful, but I agree, like, it's not something that I'm getting really excited about.

[Claudia Oshry]

The color is so gray.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's very matronly. It's made in. It's like, old maiden type of shoes.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then her after party look is very much in theme. She's going for, like, a more matronly vibe, which I like. Like, it's cool to see people switch up the whole aesthetic. And so her after party outfit matches, and it was much better. It was like this big, wide brim hat and like this very Audrey Hepburn, and it was very pretty. And I actually like this category for her, but this particular Luke is not my favorite.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, just a bummer.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, bummer, bummer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Especially, like, we waited all night to see a Kardashian. We see her and it's bummed out.

[Claudia Oshry]

And anybody else finding, like, the Carlisle and the Mark hotel pictures like, to be annoying.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I actually was trying to avoid them because I find I like the look better when I see it as it's intended to be seen in movement on the carpet. Not a photo before. Like, not something blurry. I saw Kim's because she posted tick tock with north and, like, it definitely, like, took away from it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Ruins it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And like, I thought I saw people, like, being really critical of Doji because she left the hotel in, like, an actual tent. But you know what? I saw her for the first time on the carpet, and it's just a better experience.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is. And I think, like, some people should start staying at the Holiday Inn. There'll be no traffic.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think the Met should have, like, a floor upstairs where people could get ready, and that way they can be on time and we don't get spoilers.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they cause less traffic and wreak less havoc in the city.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Because it literally did take people an hour and 20 minutes to get from the mark to 10 blocks to the steps of Mecca. Because there was video of Haley leaving at 7:20 and her and Kendall did not walk until 8:40. It's 10 blocks.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's 10 blocks. And it's. It was chaos in the city last night, and it was raining crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Next up, who do you want to go?

[Claudia Oshry]

Ayo Edebiri.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's pretty. It doesn't do anything for me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Agreed.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know you. Oh, Anna Wintour. Like, constantly giving us. Yeah, Constantly giving us nothing, though. Like, love that for her.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But never, like, being an embarrassment. And she is wearing Louis Vuitton, I believe. And I love this color, so I'm gonna love it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, next up, I would like to talk about Law Roach, Specifically La Roach going blonde.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. That was a shock.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was shocking. He looks so different. I think his hair is very much like. He usually has braids, and they're like. So I just associate him with them so much. I was so, like, I did a Double take. I kind of like it. It's giving. Ken.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I wasn't sure who it was at first.

[Claudia Oshry]

Same.

[Jackie Oshry]

Next. Tyler. Always a sleigh. I love this. I actually haven't seen this yet. I saw her leaving the mark, but I haven't seen it on the carpet. This is perfection.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed. The pinstripes super size coat.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think she's carrying a little bifocal.

[Claudia Oshry]

She slays, slay. Dapper Dan, I think was somebody who, like, is actually one of the inspirations for the actual theme. So everybody was really looking forward. And this is classic Dapper Dan.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. The night was made for him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kylie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kylie. So here's the thing. Whatever Kylie wears, even if it was seriously like a garbage bag, I'd say, like, oh, my God, garbage bags are in. Now I have to get one. Not that this is a garbage bag, but it's not her most exciting Met look. But the more I look at it, like, I process it, the more I like it. I saw a lot of pictures that she posted. She looks so comfortable and, like, just sexy and, like, she did look comfortable. Skin, like, she's just, like, so confident that anything she wears I will love because she makes me love it. So I wound up loving this. But I will say if someone else wore it. I might not say the same.

[Claudia Oshry]

If I'm looking at the dress, the dress is ugly. Like, sorry. I love her. She's a queen. Yes. She's comfortable. Whatever. It's an ugly dress.

[Jackie Oshry]

But all together, the package, I mean.

[Claudia Oshry]

The face card is unbeatable. Like, her glam is insane.

[Jackie Oshry]

The hair, the pose, the dress is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is a no for me. I feel like it was really a flop night for the Kardashians. I hated Kim's outfit. Like, I'm so, like, Kim needs to do something different. We get it. You've got a thin waist and a big ass. Like, every dress is like, how can I show off my little waist and my big ass? Like, and my tits? Like, I'm so over it. Surprise us. Do something different. Like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, that's when she did that Balenciaga, like, covered face, remember?

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, but. Okay, that's you doing something different, covering your whole face. Like, I just. I'm so over. Like, she's the most fashionable woman in the world. Right? Like, she's most influential and it's just. It's so repetitive.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Also, I feel like she intentionally. She makes every dress, like, unmovable. Like, there's no reason why she shouldn't be able to walk in this dress.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, it's a dress.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's an off the shoulder dress. Like, they tailor it to, like, where she can't breathe, I guess, to, like, make her look smaller.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, there's no reason why she can't walk down the street without being like.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that's why she doesn't embody, like, the black dandyism, the coolness, the confidence, because she can't even move.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And it's like this every single time. And, like, she can't even, like, do a different pose. Like, she's stuck.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. Also, where was Chris?

[Jackie Oshry]

Where was Chris?

[Claudia Oshry]

Now Crusty and Chloe are always, like, you know, 5050 TBD. Well, they won't. They. But Chris is, like, just as guaranteed to show up as Kim.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And maybe that's why they're all. They were all late because, like, Chris wasn't there to wrangle. To get a move on it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, totally. She would never have allowed this to happen.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I agree. This was, like, too little too late.

[Claudia Oshry]

Charlie xcx. Like, so, like, I'm not, like, meh.

[Jackie Oshry]

Does nothing for me. I mean, aside from the woman herself, which you guys know how I feel. Yeah. Like, an outfit like this does nothing for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, why bother?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And I'm not gonna say, like, it's bad because it's like, it's not ugly. Yeah. But it's just, like, it's not exciting to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Chapel Roan. It's also not working for me. Like, yes, she's in theme. It's a suit. Yada yada. It's like, lots of different textures and colors. Like, it's very much on theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

I guess. I didn't see anyone else wearing something like this, though. She looks like, I think, patchwork.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. Patchwork is very much like a. A symbol of dandyism.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even if Kendall Jenner wore this, I wouldn't like it.

[Claudia Oshry]

It looks like when you order a Party City disco theater, like, you would say the 70s look, and they just give you, like, a suit with, like, a bunch of colors on it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Not. Not a favorite of mine.

[Claudia Oshry]

Usher kind of did what men aren't supposed to do, and he just wore, like, a suit you would wear to someone's wedding. He also was the performer, which I thought was a great choice.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But he also wore a couple accessories that put him in theme. I. I kind of love this for a man.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't. It's. It's so generic.

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I think it's handsome. And that will always win. You really don't have to be Much more than that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Handsomeness wins.

[Jackie Oshry]

Handsomeness wins. Yeah. Brina Brainerd. When Sabrina showed up, oh, my God, I was scooped and gagged. I'm so excited to see her because I love her, obviously, but, like, historically, she's not the best dress at the Met Gala. So when she showed up in this with that hair and those legs and those shoes and the glam, like, she had her people doing her makeup. Oh, my gosh. Nature healed.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is a Pharrell look. He knew what he was doing. He, like, a bunch of the. The people he dressed were not wearing pants, and I loved it. I think Sabrina's the perfect person to not put in pants.

[Jackie Oshry]

She said, like, because I'm short. Pharrell was like, well, then you can't wear pants because you're short. And.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's really tailored, like, to her body perfectly. She looks amazing. I love.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, she literally looks so amazing. And also, what's so great about this outfit? It's like, it looks like one of her outfits from yes show but just, like, applied to this theme. So she looks like herself but so in theme and so elegant and, like, honestly, she's one of my best dressed. Her glam was on point, and you could tell she knew she crushed it.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would have loved to have seen her hair up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, that's.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's all.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't feel that way, but I respect it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I'm going to slide down a little bit to Demi Moore.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Who was one of the most creative of the night. Like, she's just. She's having such a good year. She can't miss.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I thought this was such a unique way of doing the theme. I didn't see anybody else doing this. It could have been stupid, but it wasn't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wait, what did she do?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a tie. Oh, it's like a Windsor knot.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, cool. I miss.

[Claudia Oshry]

Isn't that cool?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, that's very. Like, Katy Perry as a hamburger.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, but it's not stupid.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, it's not as stupid as that, but it's, like, very Moschino. Who wore Moschino last night?

[Claudia Oshry]

And I didn't see Jeremy Scott.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, me neither.

[Claudia Oshry]

Next up, Dochi, who was another Louis Vuitton swirly. We also.

[Jackie Oshry]

We skipped over Monica Barbaro, who is.

[Claudia Oshry]

The girl on purpose.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, Dylan movie. And she's friends with Kylie, so.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I'm a fan, so she gets spoken about.

[Jackie Oshry]

I loved her outfit. But no, she's very spoken about because I loved her outfit. I thought it was A perfect execution.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed. She looks fabulous.

[Jackie Oshry]

Perfect dochi. Unbelievable. Love so much. One of my favorites, this is with.

[Claudia Oshry]

Teyana Taylor as perfect executions head to toe perfection.

[Jackie Oshry]

When I saw her, I think the first time I saw her was in her interview, and I, like, just loved her from the waist up. And then they showed the shorts and the shoes and the socks, and I just love it so much.

[Claudia Oshry]

There was, I think, a lot of pressure on her to, like, be best dressed because she's so in the moment right now and she's so of the culture and her partnering up with Pharrell, like, perfection and slight. Like, I don't have one single note.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, me neither. I loved it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Cardi B. Was someone who also missed the.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I didn't even know she went. I haven't seen this yet.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. She missed the carpet. I also. I did wonder if people knew what color the carpet was gonna be. It was blue this year. It was also, like, a pattern. So I think some people's outfits just looked better or worse on the backdrop of the carpet with, like, the flowers and everything. So she's getting lost in the flowers for me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I would need to see more pictures. I. I don't immediately love it.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. It's on theme, but it's, in my opinion, not beautiful.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kiki Palmer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, she's so great. Yeah. This is, like, a perfect execution. She was wearing pants and a dress, and it all really works together. And she could.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I wrong. I think it was a huge miss to not have her in some capacity doing interviews.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. The interview she gave was so great.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And she's just, like, perfect at it. Oh, if you scroll down, Anna Sawai, that is, who wore, like, a similar thing to Zendaya.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Mama way.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I just want to say it's not similar.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's not. But it's good. But I love it as more.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love Zendaya's more too.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, now if we could scroll to photo 46. I really need to talk about Heidi Klum.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

So Heidi Klum is on my list for worst stressed. She's also on my list of people I was shocked to see in attendance. And this is kind of what I was saying. And I have nothing against Heidi Klum. She's had an amazing career, and I actually met her. She's lovely. But when I think of the Met Gala, I think of people who are a. Having, like, a moment right now. The Mecca is always a moment in time. Like, you'll. You'll hear, like, oh, my God. Rebecca Black went to the Mecca. Like, it doesn't make sense, but at the time, it's supposed to be. No, you know what I mean, Simpson. It's supposed to be, like, reflective of what's going on that year. So either you have people who are, like, super. Like, maybe you never even hear from them again, but, like, that was their year. Like, we were just Lil Nas X went to the Met Gala two years in a row, and now it's like, you wouldn't be invited. So it's supposed to reflect, like, the culture of the moment, like the zeitgeist. But it's also for people who are, you know, eternally influential in art and in fashion. Models, it's very upper echelon models. And I was just shocked to see Heidi Klum there. And so the fact that she got an invitation, I think, you know, was something she was probably grateful for. To show up in this dress is actually disrespectful. It is. She is. She's not my worst dress because someone else is, but she's my second worst dress. It is so ugly. It is so boring. It is not in theme. It is not well tailored. The glam does nothing. The jewelry does nothing. Like, sometimes, like, someone shows up at an event and like. Like the Mac Ally and like, they shouldn't have been there, but you know what? They slayed. So you know what? We'll allow it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. She did not slay. They shouldn't have been there because they just perfectly.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, right. No, she was not blending whatsoever. This is horrible.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I agree.

[Claudia Oshry]

Horrible. It's giving. Seriously, like prom.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not even.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not even. It's not nice enough for prom.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's not. I don't get it.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't get it either. Doja, cat do. I loved this. Yeah. Totally on theme. Like, quirky and different. Like, it's not, like, aesthetically classically beautiful. It's like a little out there, but I love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I like it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Oh, Sophia. Richie.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought she looked beautiful. I didn't know she was going. I didn't see her on the stream. Did she showed up late?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, she was perfectly on time.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was on the stream.

[Claudia Oshry]

She was on the stream.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, I guess I did miss a little bit of the stream. I had to skip some stuff.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know where she's going. I love. I love the look. I don't know where she's going. It's not in theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

She toggles between being a celebrity invited to the Met Gala and being like a Rich lady just invited to the macala to support.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm sure she like purchases art. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So like on all those people who go, who are like, actually the foundation members, like, they just wear a beautiful dress. Maybe it has a bow on it to celebrate a bow tie.

[Claudia Oshry]

They just wear like a black tie.

[Jackie Oshry]

A nod to the theme. But they're just wearing like a black tie gown that they might have gotten off the rack. So she's a little bit in both worlds.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I think Jackie, she's a full blown celebrity. Like, please, she has to be in theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, but she's just like showing up as a rich lady now. And I think I, first of all, you're not going to catch me saying a bad word about her. But I actually have seen wear some dresses where I'm like, it doesn't excite me and I don't love it. I actually love this. And I think the bow ties are a nod to the dandyism. I think she looks beautiful. I think she's also like a very famous bride. So wearing a bridal.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what I was thinking.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wearing a bridal look, like is congress for her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Smart.

[Jackie Oshry]

And we haven't seen this much of her since she has become a mom. And I think all in all, like, seriously, no notes. And I know that other people might say it's boring, it's on theme. No notes for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I don't think it's boring. It's not in theme, but it's absolutely gorgeous. And I agree, it's very bridal.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's tailored and it's bow tied. Two themes, two out of 12.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a stretch.

[Jackie Oshry]

Two out of wait, and there's two bows. Three.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

One on one on the bum, one on the back.

[Claudia Oshry]

Nicole Scherzinger is like the perfect example of how to do this theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I thought this was Kim. When I was watching her on the stream. I was like, it looks like Kim is it kid.

[Claudia Oshry]

I wish.

[Jackie Oshry]

And if Kim had worn this, that would have been a lot more exciting. And she does look great.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Nicole Scherzinger is a perfect example of like maybe in years past you would have been like, Nicole Scherzinger's at the Met gala. But like this year she's on Broadway. She's the toast of the town. She just was nominated for a Tony. Like she's the perfect person to have been invited. But like, otherwise, like I felt like the guest list was not. And first of all, where the were the influencers? Not one. Except and I don't know where he is on this list. Kobby Lame.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought he looked amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Who was on my list? I haven't decided yet. Was on my list for best dressed.

[Jackie Oshry]

For the men overall. Oh wow. No, I thought you genderless. I didn't realize it was Kabi Lame who I read about last week.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's technically a tick tocker Although I did he looked so handsome. But besides him like there was not one person representing the Internet. Emma Chamberlain no longer counts.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think James Charles ruined it for everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I'm sorry. Ever since James Charles was many years ago and that was because YouTube was a huge sponsor. So it wasn't just James Charles. Nikki tutorials was there. Jackie Aina was there. Like it was a big night for the influencers. But ever since then like there are a few hand picked Addison, Charlie and Dixie. There are a few people who get like handpicked from the gutters of the Internet and I like it. I like that they do that. Not a ton but like so were.

[Jackie Oshry]

You looking for new faces or like the usual influencers who go.

[Claudia Oshry]

I was looking for who's reflective of 2025. I was looking for Alix Earl.

[Jackie Oshry]

So new faces because also like yeah where were Addison and Charles but where were the new influences? Who would be going. I do think Nara and Lucky Blue should have gone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Should have been there 1000 model.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's a fashion girly and he.

[Claudia Oshry]

She is like a. She does a bunch of work with Tory Burch. I'm surprised. Tory Burchin dresser.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like she just did a Fendi campaign.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm shocked.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Lana Del Rey. I think she looks lovely, sweet and party.

[Jackie Oshry]

I've been enjoying her recently.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, she's. She looks good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

You did good. Oh, Sydney Sweeney.

[Jackie Oshry]

So Sydney Sweeney to me is a perfect example of someone who like didn't like you know, break mind blowing but like looks really beautiful. There's a nod to the theme and she's just like having a nice night and go on.

[Claudia Oshry]

What is the nod to the theme?

[Jackie Oshry]

She mentioned it in her, in her interview. I can't remember. Maybe sparkles. Like maybe sparkles are one of the ten poles I the flower brooch on the chest.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think that Sydney Sweeney's red carpet looks like the bar is so low for her because she consistently lets us down. Like she, she does not have good red carpet style. So when I saw this I'm like oh, she looks really pretty. But then the more I analyze it I'm like, like this is not a good look. It's not really the in theme at all. It's, it's very mature. Like, this is the type of dress an older woman wears to sort of COVID her arms. Like, it's, it's matronly and it's not good. But for City Sweeney, it is.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like so neutral and like totally fine. That's how I felt.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't like it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I felt like she's like the perfect example of like the, the theme done wrong this year, which is actually not bad at all.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

Next. I like Miranda Kerr's outfit. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I follow her on Tick Tock. So I had seen it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I like that a lot. It's like a deconstructed tuxedo.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm scrolling just a bit because there's a lot of. Oh, Taraji B. Henson. This is actually the first time I'm seeing her.

[Jackie Oshry]

I actually just saw her recently for the first time too. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like it's like a little much. Like a little much of everything. She's got the hat, she's got the cane, she's got the suit, she's got the bow. It's just like I kind of need her to take one thing off.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. It's like a little. I know it's a costume gala, but like, it's a little too Costume party city. Like not fashiony as much. Like, it's.

[Claudia Oshry]

What do you think?

[Jackie Oshry]

Continue.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sorry, Continue.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm not.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. No, no, Agreed. It's, it's costumey. But even though it's a costume gala.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, yeah, Taylor was like, like is doing all the same things here, but it didn't look like costumey. I wouldn't have said that the outfit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is wearing Taraji P. Henson.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But even if someone else had worn it, like, it's a little. There's just too much of it. I don't know what the difference is, but there's a difference.

[Claudia Oshry]

What did you think about Priyanka and Nick Jonas?

[Jackie Oshry]

I was happy to see them because, like, me too. I felt like they were, they were exciting. And we didn't get that many exciting couples this year. Like, yeah, some of the people who always come with their spouse, even like Haley Bieber, like, there was no Justin. But we didn't get a lot of couples. We didn't get new couples. We obviously didn't get Alex and Braxton. We didn't get Taylor and Travis. We didn't get Kylie and Timothy. So, like, to see these two who, like, come from different worlds and are in a relationship, like, was Actually very exciting.

[Claudia Oshry]

They just didn't look like a couple. Like, their outfits weren't cohesive. They didn't. Like, even the shades of white are so mismatched.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you know what? Like, if I block him out and just look at her, I actually.

[Claudia Oshry]

She looks amazing. Her outfit agrees, she looks out.

[Jackie Oshry]

I like his outfit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, they just don't look like they go together.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, she does look really amazing. And I was glad to see a couple I like. We didn't get a lot of couples. We usually get more.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you're right. You're right. We didn't get a lot of couples.

[Jackie Oshry]

And like, Brooklyn and Nicola, like, seriously, I'm so mad at them for whatever they're doing with their lives.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're right. Where were Brooklyn and Nick?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. But like, I was noticing on the carpet, they're a mainstay. They always look amazing together.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, you're right. Can you scroll down to photo 88? I think we need to talk about Janelle Monae, who, like, I think every year at the Met gala crushes someone. We need to wait and see. And given the theme and that's like, I feel like her genuine style and aesthetic already. Yeah, she crushed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, she's a shoe in for this theme. And then also this jacket, this two dimensional jacket was like removable. And then she had another outfit on under that was also perfect. Like, nailed it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Perfect. Perfect.

[Jackie Oshry]

But the bar is actually really high for as much as you think, like, oh, she could do this in sleep. Like that person you have a higher expectations for.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed. 94 Quinta Brunson.

[Jackie Oshry]

Quinta.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, there's nothing wrong with it.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's nothing wrong with it. I just. It's reminding me of that other person who I hadn't. Who I haven't seen yet. It's like similar, but I like that better.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And I don't know. It's fine.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Claudia Oshry]

Shocked to see Ray Jean Paul. He is also on my list. In case you're wondering, his last name is Paige.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I know to you it'll always be Paul.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. I literally didn't even know that. If you were wondering. I actually did write a list and I wrote, I wrote his last name was Paul on my list. This is my list of people I was shocked to see in attendance like, that I didn't feel were worthy of invites this year. Ray Jean Page, Heidi Klum, Ashley Graham Lizzo. That's my list.

[Jackie Oshry]

No protest for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, he looks nice. He's handsome. What the hell is he doing there? Is he still a working actor?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know how things are going for him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I think that says it.

[Jackie Oshry]

All right, let's. Let's go to 98. Amelia Gray.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let's go to 90, I think so. If it wasn't a Black Dandy theme, I would assume she was paying homage to Gray Gardens and Madonna. She looks nuts. I'm sorry, I just want to say.

[Jackie Oshry]

When she walked out and I watched her on the stream and she has all the confidence in the world. Boom, boom. Hitting the poses. There wasn't a close up on the details of the outfit. I was like, oh, I'm interested by this. Gabrielle looks amazing. And now that I've seen photos of it and I see like the bloomers and the. And everything together like that, I see the details of it. I don't like it as much as I did when she was in motion.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's bad. I'm sorry, that's a nice roundabout way of you saying it is bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is, but for some reason, like, it's. It's bad, but a bit awe inspiring.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, like, it's not bad like Heidi Klum bad.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right, right. Because at least she tried.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And she was working. It took me a while to realize it was ugly.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, I'm scrolling far down because, like, there's a bunch of people here I don't know or I don't feel are worth discussing.

[Jackie Oshry]

I also want to say I saw Rachel Brosnahan. She's 99. She was right after Amelia. Did you see her purple dress in the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And like, I had the thought, like, I would love to see Kim in something like that. You know, I would love to see.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kim in literally something, anything else.

[Jackie Oshry]

Because this is a beautiful purple dress.

[Claudia Oshry]

I scroll down quite significantly to 123 because we do need to talk about Laura Harrier. Everyone's talking about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah. Always best dressed.

[Claudia Oshry]

Always best dressed. Like, I seriously don't know what she's famous for because I know her just for like slaying red carpets. Like, how does she get invited to the red carpets? She an actress?

[Jackie Oshry]

She is an actress. Yeah. It wasn't she in that show that we liked.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just feel like she's more famous for her style.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, definitely. She's a fashion girly.

[Claudia Oshry]

She slays. I love, love, love what she wore.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know who also wasn't there that has been invited the past few years and I was wondering if they were going to be there. But I think Their invites have run out. The Riverdale kids.

[Claudia Oshry]

I literally knew you were gonna say that. I saw a video of celebrities who have been banned from the Met Gala, and it's all speculatory, but it's widely believed that Lili Reinhart is not allowed back because, you know, she went and then she, like, trashed it. Trashed it. And Kim and, like, how everybody's too skinny. Like, she made it about, like, her body image issues.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I forgot about that. But I'm thinking, like, Cami Mendez.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, Mendez. Cabbie Mendez has been invited for the last couple of years. Not as a Riverdale kid. She's like, an Armani ambassador. She's actually very fashiony. But yes. The other is Cole Sprouse. Like, their time has run out. Sorry. Like, it's over.

[Jackie Oshry]

Dylan and Barbara.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where is Dylan and Barbara?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, that's what's just so exciting. And we didn't get.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like that you think Cammie Mendez's time has run out. Was that what you just said?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. The Riverdale crew, like, oh, yeah. They haven't done. Cammie got an extension. I bet. But Cami was invited this year. Like, she got an extension because she's very in the fashion space.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Lizzo.

[Claudia Oshry]

Meh. Like, really not inspiring.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But not bad. Not ugly. Not. Not in theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I. I don't know what word to use for, like, someone like that. Where it's like, I don't love.

[Claudia Oshry]

Fine.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't hate. Yeah, fine. Neutral.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, Neutral.

[Jackie Oshry]

There were certain people there, and his new wife. They look so great, and they look like. Like happy and excited to be there. You know, so many people are so jaded. They've been a million times.

[Claudia Oshry]

True. It's really true.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know who was also a first timer who earned his spot? Shaboozy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah. He hasn't come up on our list yet, but he was someone I wanted to talk about because he's also another person where I would have looked to him for this particular theme. He's a very, very well dressed man outside of, like, just wearing a suit, you know, he always adds color and fun, and I thought his outfit was kind of a departure from what his usual style is, but I really liked it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I really liked it too. And I was very excited that he was there. I hope he fell in love with someone. I hope it was Sabrina.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I scroll down a lot. Your favorites at number 147, Adrian Brody and Georgina Chapman.

[Jackie Oshry]

So they are, like, wealthy people who get invited to the gala at this point. You know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, she's also, like, a designer, so she doesn't have to, like, do the most.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, she looks great, but she's just wearing, like, a beautiful gown, and he looks complimentary to her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Scroll down to Patrick Schwarzenegger. He's on my list for worst.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know he is.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm sorry, what the hell is this?

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. I feel like. Do you feel like maybe he got, like, bamboozled by a designer and, like, couldn't say? Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So he's like. He's obviously not new to fame or Hollywood, but he's new to this level. Right. And at some point, like, you are just a muse, a model, a chair for a designer to fill, and you don't have notes. It's not a collaborative process. And I think as a man also, who probably doesn't have really strong feelings about fashion, it's hard to speak up. So he just wears what comes in the garment bag. And this is fudgeing ugly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I agree. And I feel like also, he's probably used to distressing, like, stereotypical hetero male, and so, like, he just put on whatever they send, and he didn't even know if it was bad or not. He's like, I'm just going to the Met Gala, and this is what I'm wearing. Like, yeah, take it early.

[Claudia Oshry]

Someone who's not popping up for me yet, but I do want to talk about is Mindy Kaling. I thought she looked amazing. She looked amazing. Flawless execution. 10 out of 10, no notes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Another eligible worst dress is number 157, BB Rexha.

[Jackie Oshry]

I hadn't seen her yet. Did you see stream?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, not on the stream. I saw pictures of it this morning.

[Jackie Oshry]

This is quite terrible. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And she. I might need to add her to my list of people. I'm shocked were invited.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. It's no rhyme or reason.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling.

[Jackie Oshry]

Was there. You know, she has such a hard time being so beautiful, Right? That's Leo's girlfriend. Leo was not there. And her look, like, was like. You saw there was, like, the jacket and then turned to the dress doing a big reveal.

[Claudia Oshry]

And just to put on a black dress with a black jacket like these reveals. People were looking so stupid.

[Jackie Oshry]

The reveals were stupid. It's stupider on a man.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the fact that her jacket, like, stayed with her dress. It wasn't, like a discard. That was like, when Kylie wore that for Karl Lagerfeld. It was like, her. Her dress was a jacket, and then it turned into her train. I liked it. And then. And Victoria is beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

So there are a lot of people remaining whom like, are famous and whatever, but their outfits, like, don't need to be discussed. Diana Ross, I loved. Like, it was this big show stopping carpet moment. She's allowed. It's not stupid when Diana Ross does it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, and I think she was very on theme. She like, is the theme. And correct. She was great. So she deserved that moment.

[Claudia Oshry]

Miley, like, seriously. And when she was asked about her outfit and like her when that classic question from Lala, like, when you heard about the theme, what were you most excited about? She was like, I was excited to see everybody else interpret it because she didn't interpret it like in any way.

[Jackie Oshry]

In a little bit. I mean, she looks good. She's not so off.

[Claudia Oshry]

She doesn't look bad, but she is off. Like, I don't even know where she's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, you want to say the theme if she's not in theme or this or that. Like, you also have to talk about whoever dressed her, like the designer or the stylist. And it's. It's a collaborative thing. So I hate to like put it all on one person and be like, no, of course up. Like, who dressed Heidi Klum? Like, we should definitely be dragging them.

[Claudia Oshry]

Shame.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now I think the perfect place to end. I need you to pick up. Because I finally made it to my worst dress. I need you to scroll down to number 193.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, wait, give me a minute before you tell everyone who it is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Keep scrolling. You guys, it is so important that we discuss the one.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wait, wait, wait. No, I'm not there one. And if you're like scrolling with us, then you also need to get there. Okay, I'm almost there.

[Claudia Oshry]

I find I literally was going until I found it.

[Jackie Oshry]

This is killing me. 190.

[Claudia Oshry]

Gail King. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. This is such a bad. First of all, the dress does not fit her. It is hanging off of her neck. So it's automatically out of theme because.

[Jackie Oshry]

It'S not tailored, but it is of suit, like, inspiration.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is so ugly. It is so ill fitting.

[Jackie Oshry]

You need to know who made it. Like, you definitely need to put the onus on the designer too.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I think, like, I expect a lot from Gayle King and she kind of got away with murder after Blue Origins. Like she owes Katy Perry her life and she really needed to be a little bit more under the radar.

[Jackie Oshry]

She got away with the murder of Katy Perry?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And she needed to be a little bit More under the radar. Because now we're, like, remembering again. And she is the perfect person to be invited to this affair. Right? She's a New York icon. CBS this Morning. She's so famous, so well respected, important figure in black culture. And this is what you wear worst dressed. I. That is my official decree. Heidi Klum. Heidi Klum was almost there, but I'm sorry, Like, Heidi Klum's dress was just, like, boring, bland, and a little ugly. This dress was crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. It can't really be worst dress. It's just like a strapless black dress.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, great. Do you want to do best and worst?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I just did worst. If you'd like to do your worst.

[Jackie Oshry]

My worst has been I'm cracking up. I just have to be consistent year after year.

[Claudia Oshry]

I. By the way, I will not protest. I love that, by the way.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm not complaining at all. Like, I'm actually. Thank you, Anna. But where was he this year? Isn't he on Broadway right now?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, he's actually, like, very low key right now.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, okay, cool.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, we were blessed big time. So your worst is Ben Platt, My best. Oh, we didn't talk about her honorable mention. Because I have a top three honorable mention to Joey King. She looked fab.

[Jackie Oshry]

She did look fab.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's not my best dress, but she was up there. I know. It's so crazy. I had a top three. I think it's so crazy. But I think my best dress is going to be kabi lame maybe. Because I really wasn't expecting it. And it was so different. Like, nobody, everybody. Like, that's what we were saying with, like, Quinta. Quinta Brunson. Like, at some point the look started to get lumped together because everybody sort of looked the same. I didn't see anybody doing what Khabi was doing. If you didn't see, he had, like, all these different stopwatches and, like, what are they called? Back in the day, you used to, like, pull out, like, your cloth.

[Jackie Oshry]

Pocket watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, pocket watch. Thank you. And they were like. It was just really different and cool. Thank you. Please stop. I can't breathe. It was so different. And he represented the Internet. And you know what? I think I'm gonna give it to him.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love that for you. Let me tell you my top four, and then maybe we can cobble together.

[Claudia Oshry]

A one, narrow it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Zendaya, of course.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. She was there for me, too.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jenny from Blackpink. She was wearing Chanel and I thought she looked incredible. I'm surprised More people weren't dressed in the same way that she was cuz she like was a total like in like textbook interpretation of the theme. Oh my God, she looks so beautiful. We didn't even talk about her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Doi Doi and Breener and Briner.

[Jackie Oshry]

Those are my two.

[Claudia Oshry]

I approve. I approve for any of them.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm gonna leave it at that.

[Claudia Oshry]

All winners here.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story, which is actually going to be some more met adjacent news.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, Claudia, don't make me so hungry. A Taylor farm salad sounds so.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Supplement the dinner. Like when I'm having taco night, I'm getting Mexican street corn salad and we can have taco salad for those of.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

T U R T. You're welcome. Our next story is just some met gala, I guess, backlash. I do think people were worried about, you know, getting canceled by their interpretation, of course.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a slippery slope to cultural appropriation.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is. And I do think, like, for the most part, everyone was safe. However, Black pig Lisa is getting backlash now because it looks as though she has Rosa Parks on her underwear and it's being called Rosa Parks underwear. The Internet is going crazy over Lisa's panties. Also, we forgot got to talk about how Lisa was there from blackpink and White Lotus and three out of the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Four black pink ladies, Ros, Jenny and Lisa.

[Jackie Oshry]

And it's like, who is even the fourth? She's not doing a solo career, but blackpink is going on. Is going on tour.

[Claudia Oshry]

Black. Yeah, I saw. I like that Jenny song. Like Jenny. Do you know that one? Like Jenny?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, like Jenny.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, like, yeah. I need to make a like turdy. Like, I love that whole I want my nails done like turdy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, they're so cute. They all looked amazing last night and I was glad for them because they all had each other inside. I don't think they know that many people except Lisa's White lotus co stars were there. Patrick and Walton and Amy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Lisa's probably like, like the leader of the blackpink group just being like, oh, this is my friend Amy and Patrick.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But the Internet's going crazy over her panties because it looks like Rose's face is stitched into the garment.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's literally on her clitoris. Like, it's right there.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's a bunch of faces on the undies of Lisa, on the whole outfit, by the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Also on her bustier, she's wearing undies.

[Jackie Oshry]

And tights, Louis Vuitton tights. And according to Vogue uk, her look features embroidered portraits by black artist Henry Taylor, transforming fashion into a tribute to black art and culture.

[Claudia Oshry]

So this was a collaboration dressed by Pharrell. Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Louis Vuitton and Henry Taylor.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, obviously, the concept of having Rosa Parks on your labia is crazy, and if it were any other circumstance, I might rip this person to filth. But one like this was obviously very well thought out. Right. Like, Pharrell is deeply involved in the Met gala, and, like, it was approved by him, so therefore, it's approved by me too. She seems like the type of person she's getting dressed. Like, she might be. Doesn't have, like, notes like, she's just wearing especially. Rosa Parks is, like, an American icon. She's not from America. So, like, she's just following Pharrell and the designer's leads, and she's not going to be like, is it weird that we have this lady on my vagina? She just is doing what she's told. Yeah. And if Pharrell isn't, like, mad about it, I don't know. I'm not mad about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm not mad about it either. It does look like it's not a pair of underwear, but it is a leotard that. Because if it's on the top and it's on the bottom and she's wearing a jacket, then she's not wearing Rosa Parks underwear. And there also seems to be other people. But I just want to say, like, the idea that she's being called out for Rosa Parks underwear is really funny, but I don't think she did anything wrong. I think she's wearing what she was told to wear and.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

That nobody else had an issue with it. And I actually found it to be really beautiful. I think overall, she looks really great. But, yeah, if you want to zoom in on her crotch and see Rosa Park's face, it's a crazy thing. But overall, when you take a step back, that's not what was happening.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And if you look at the embroidery all over the outfit, it's actually really beautiful. Like, these faces embroidered into lace. I've never seen that before. So I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say that, like, I think this is okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it's okay too. I think it's like, just. Just, like, funny and unfortunate the way people are zooming in on her tushy and, like, pointing right Parks. Because it's also all over, but there's also other people. It's not just Rosa. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's obviously the most recognizable Fudge.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. So just funny. And I hope that, you know, she's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not really getting canceled. Like, it's. It was. It's. It's beautiful.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it is. Next story. Some news that came out last night. I don't know if it has anything to do with the Met Gala, but Kim Kardashian has now hired a new stylist.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Every couple of years, she parts with her stylist. It's, like, always a big deal. Remember, Monica Rose stylist was, like, actually the family stylist. And that was bigger news because there was, like, drama. They, like, made it seem like Monica was stealing from them, and we never got, like, closure on that. That's, like, one of my Roman empires. But Danny, her stylist, who's, like, on the show all the time, and they. Yeah. Tag each other on Instagram, I guess Danny's out. New guy in.

[Jackie Oshry]

New guy in. Danny's been with her for a. A while, though, because I think Danny used to work with Kanye and then started working with Kim while they were married and then just stayed with Kim. And so the. That's why the looks have always been pretty consistent, since even she was, like, dressed by Kanye and then by Danny. They both work with, like, Balenciaga and Easy and everything, so it's that whole vibe. But I guess Kim's officially over it, which I'm very grateful for, because it's time for something new. We've been saying, like, every time she wears something, it's just so tired. Especially when it's Balenciaga and it's up. Ugly, you know, like, if you want to wear something ugly, that's Chanel. Okay, I'm open.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. I'm not, like, so against.

[Jackie Oshry]

But ugly Ambalenciaga. What's the point?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's just so crazy because it's like, Kim and her style. Kim style. Kim style. Kim style. Kim style. And Kim has not had good style. Like, I don't care who's behind it. Even with Kanye, like, he. She's not had good style for a while, and I feel like. Like, there was the sweatpants era, and, yes, it was influential and people loved it. But, like, I don't know. I'm like, why is she the style maven? I don't feel like I'VE seen anything that she's worn in seriously five years and been like, oh, I need that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, maybe she's with. Or that's beautiful as well. I wonder what the new style will be.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, it's just so unoriginal, like the whole body thing, like not to be such a grandma. Maybe it's just because I'm jealous because I've never been fatter, but like just so over it, like tight waist, body con, tits out for the boys. It's like, sure. But like, why don't you try a moomoo? Like something.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I'm curious to see what the new style will be. I hope that it's. I feel like she's still going to be avant garde and not like something that's like, oh, that's just simple and beautiful. But I think it's time for a change. Change is good.

[Claudia Oshry]

A thousand percent.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I, I liked Danny. I hope she goes on to style other people because I think there are other people who would like work really well on that vibe. But just like it's time for Kim to move on. And Kim has hired Rihanna stylist and.

[Claudia Oshry]

They had worked together on this like, cover photo shoot for a magazine I'd never heard of and a cover I never saw. And I guess they really hit it off and she really, like, loved the work that was done. So that was the beginning of their beautiful new friendship.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I wonder who was the stylist on Met Gala. Just curious because also she went had an after party look that was like a short version of what she wore. Like it was the same.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Haley Bieber's after party look was really sweet too.

[Jackie Oshry]

I liked it. Imagine if she showed up on the red carpet like that. It's so out of theme. But she would look amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And then she also had another dress in between that she should have worn to the Met Gala. It was like, it had like a collared shirt, like a part of it. It was just like a little bit more on theme and it was like the same level of blazer as the other one.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sure we'll be getting a lot of after party stuff like tomorrow as the parties are probably winding down just now. And our next story. If you were wondering where Timothy Chalamet was at the Mecca, I was the Nick Gates.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I watched it, Timothy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Such a busy night. Like between Mecca. I had to watch a Mechala on the computer on my lap while they, while the Nick game was on the TV because Ben was watching the other room. And I wanted to be together. I'm like, all right, I'll be a martyr. I'll watch the Met Gala. It was like, the end. I was getting so bored on the live stream. It, like, never ended Same.

[Jackie Oshry]

Especially when I realized I wasn't even gonna see my faves.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

But Timothy had a pretty good reason to let Kylie fly solo at the Met Gala. His team was playing an important playoff game, and he had to watch, so.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they actually won. So he missed for something, you know, like, if they had lost.

[Jackie Oshry]

Who's a big Knicks fan? Was nowhere to be found at the Met Gala. Instead, he was tuning in to watch the Knicks play the Celtics in game one of their series.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, he was just watching. He didn't even go to Boston.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, he posted on his story, like, a picture of the. Which is actually really crazy. And then he said, myself, this game is insane. He sounds like Ben. And then he said, shaking. What a win.

[Claudia Oshry]

Literally, Ben, like to join Branson boys. He does. They were being so dramatic. And I know I told you I would keep you updated on what's going on with Jordan woods boyfriend. Jackie, nobody on the planet played worse sports than her boyfriend last night. And he, like, wouldn't just sometimes it's not your night, you know, and you have to acknowledge that and just, like, pass the ball to OG, because it was OG's night, you know, and he just, like, kept trying to make fetch happen and making it worse, and they would, like, take him out and put him back in. And, like, he just needed to be a support. Like, he's been the star for, like, a couple of games, so he was getting used to that sort of treatment. But listen, it's not your night, and you have to pass it to Brunson. Ben wanted to kill Jordan Woods's boyfriend last night. Like, he was so bad. Like, really, really bad. Ultimately, the team pulled it off. It was a crazy game. Like, the Knicks are so the underdog in this series. I was actually really happy for Ben. Like, he was for. You should have seen him. He was actually being so crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's really crazy. I wonder if if Timothy partied with Kylie at the after parties, because he was probably in a celebratory mood. They're both in New York, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

The game ended at, like, 9, 39, 45.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Timothy was definitely in New York, so they probably spent the night together. And then the next game, 3 and 4 are Monday and Saturday at the Garden. Do you think Kylie and Timothy will go?

[Claudia Oshry]

I think Timothy will go. Tim Tim has.

[Jackie Oshry]

But they went to that courtside game, so.

[Claudia Oshry]

At the Lakers. He's not even a Laker fan. What the hell was that?

[Jackie Oshry]

Because, like, that's. They probably were looking just, like, a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Fun thing to do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Activity. And he probably likes basketball.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I would love to see them. The first game at the Garden is on Saturday.

[Jackie Oshry]

You should go court side next.

[Claudia Oshry]

I actually. I actually told Ben, I said, you should go to the game. And, like, don't worry about me, because Jackie's in town. Like, I'm good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, wait, I could go.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, let's go together.

[Jackie Oshry]

Courtside.

[Claudia Oshry]

Courtside. She's not, by the way. Ben keeps sending me links. He's like, we should go. And I'm like, I said, if you find, like, a party seat. I'm huge right now. I can sit in a tiny little seat. Like, I need a suite. I need something pargy. I'm sorry. Okay. He said, if you find. If you find. I'm like, you're like a. You know, a finagler. If you find something Parchy, I will go. He's sending me StubHub seats. He's like, these are. It's actually an amazing deal. $14,000 for a ticket. Like, I can't with.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, we need someone to let us in their suite. I agree that you can't sit on a folding chair courtside.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you.

[Jackie Oshry]

But if someone will let us in there. And we also can't pay $14,000. You know, I'm proud of you for.

[Claudia Oshry]

Saying that, because I. I thought you were going to say, that's a good deal. You should take it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm not passionate about. Oh, like sports for Rascal flats. That's a good deal. You should take it.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what? We actually got a lot of mixed responses on the crib theory yesterday. I thought everyone was going to be on my side. Like, Jackie's crazy. No, they were like, you know what? Like, for your first baby, Like, I'm getting the crib that I want. So it's not a perfect theory. It's not a perfect.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I just think it goes to show. And it was a good exercise because, like, neither one of us is crazy. Like. Like, it's not crazy that I would still buy the crib that.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's not.

[Jackie Oshry]

That is the one that I want. But it's not crazy that you wouldn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

So it's a very much like, agree to disagree respectfully.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's so us.

[Jackie Oshry]

If anybody wants to listen to their suite Saturday and Monday night at the Garden we will think about coming. Honestly?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I was gonna say honestly. Honestly, I'm not sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, me neither.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I'm on the mood to, like, mingle. Unless you want to give me your suite. Like, I'm sorry. I don't want to, like, talk to other people.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Or what if they invite us, but they, like. No, we're not feeling chatty.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay? So just think about it. You.

[Claudia Oshry]

You would love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you know what? I'm gonna call it on the stories I think, like, doing All Met adjacent. That was four, technically, but it's an hour 20. Like, do we even have time for Dear Toasters?

[Claudia Oshry]

By the way, I decided long ago that Dear Toasters is getting pushed to tomorrow. I promise we will do it tomorrow.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

To the dtq. I know you're gonna say like, again. You guys, I'm sitting in the chair for 90 minutes. I'm not okay. My back is killing me. Like, I have to. I have to move every. But I heard your cries. It will be done this week. We're not skipping it this week. It's just not getting done today. I'm sorry. If you're looking for someone to blame, her name is Anna Wintour.

[Jackie Oshry]

100.

[Claudia Oshry]

She works at Conde Nast. Go protest outside her office building.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Protest peacefully.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was a great Mechala. Honestly, I feel like years past have definitely been disappointing. I had. I. I think overall my biggest disappointment was, like, just the elk of people. Like, like, not only were so many missing from the red carpet, but I saw a bunch of losers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I agree. Star power wasn't. It kind of reminded me of that Covid one that took place in September where it was like, only the vaccinated or the people who are lying or.

[Claudia Oshry]

Who had fake vaccination cards. That was like, a blind item that was going around, like, a list of celebrities who made fake. Because celebs are, like, notoriously anti vax. They're very, like, non talks.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right?

[Claudia Oshry]

And there was, like, a rumor about a couple of. I'm not going to say who. A couple of celebrities who had fake vaccination cards.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually found my COVID vaccine card the other day because I'm sweeping, and with.

[Jackie Oshry]

It, you have to put it in a time capsule.

[Claudia Oshry]

I kept it, of course, even though, like, I don't need it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm like, this is not like the sweeper. But you can't. Like, that's just like, a piece of her history.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's still not like the sweeper. Kids, one day, it was killing me. Because, like, I should have thrown it out, but me and Ben's, like, they were brand new. You used to need them to get in places. Like, some people had them laminated. I'm surprised I didn't because I was going out so hard back then. Like, I was actually really crazy to see.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, maybe you'll go somewhere. And they're like, where's your vacuum card?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't think so.

[Jackie Oshry]

You never know. I wouldn't throw.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you never know. It's true.

[Jackie Oshry]

I have a photo.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have a photo of it, too. Which is like how I used to get into clubs and stuff, you know? Like, you would just. I was. I wasn't bringing it. Yeah. So dtq, we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you so much. I don't even have time to do the wrap up, you guys. My back is broken.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think that's so fair. We love you so much. And we'll see you tomorrow. Love you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bye.