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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast. And what is it? Oh, my God, no.
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It's only the day of the choose. I'm sorry to break that news to you.
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It's. It's kind of jarring.
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Yeah, it is Tuesday. Shh. Feels like it could be a little later in the week, but feels like.
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It should be a little later in the week.
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But you know what? Let's acknowledge the space that we're in. Be grateful for it. It ain't Monday, and it's gon Fantastic Tuesday if we decide it.
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I'm wearing the sweater that you got me for Secret Santa.
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I see that. You and it. I am so excited to see it.
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They picked out a home and called it Holiday House. If you're listening as a podcast for Secret Santa the year before this one, because you're not using 23 the Royals.
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Rice of coccidentia pillows.
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Jackie. I got Jackie. And she got me custom stationary, which is such a good gift, which, I can't lie, I haven't used because I haven't written something with my hand since 1972. And this, what appears to be Taylor Swift merch, but it's not. It's from a very, you know, cute custom Etsy store. If Taylor Swift sold merch for her house in Rhode island, this is what she would sell.
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Yeah. It's such a cute sweatshirt. I'm so glad you're wearing it. There's nothing better than people enjoying your gifts.
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I completely agree. Like, nothing makes. And nothing worse than, like, never seeing a gift that you got for someone.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, where in the world is that gift? Like, you. You kind of forget the. Oh, speaking of forgetting. Today's an important day.
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Every day is an important day. But, Manish.
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Because one year ago today on this show, we asked our listeners to remind us of something.
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Okay.
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Do you know what I'm talking about?
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No.
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Okay, Neither did I. And I need to shout out the toaster who reminded me Legally Blonde, too. No, no, Jackie. It is so random and so. No. Oh, she submitted it anonymously, so I don't know her name. Okay, so one year ago today. You know what? Let me. Let me pose it in a different way. When you think of the name Darius Rucker, what comes to mind?
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I saw him perform once Wagon Wheel.
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And Icon in his personal life scandals.
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If he has any dui.
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So one year ago today, Darius Rucker was, like, pulled over and arrested for, like, two or three misdemeanors of, like, driving with an expired registration con casual passing of a Controlled substance. Like these really weird charges. And you and I were, like, fully convinced it was a conspiracy to take Darius down because, like, everyone drives without a registry, and they don't get arrested for it. Registry, registration. Excuse me. And we had asked, you know, we said, like, this is not gonna affect Darius's career. I bet in a year we won't even remember that Darius Rucker got arrested. He had a mug shot and everything. And thank you to the toaster who reminded me it has been one entire year, and I. I had no idea what this girl was talking about. I had to go back and watch the episode of us talking about Darius Rucker because I was so confused.
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That is so funny. I definitely. There's a little sprinkle of, like, what did Darius do? But.
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No, there's not. No, there's not.
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No, but that's. You asked me what I think of him, and I do feel like there's a sprinkle of what did Darius do? But it didn't affect the way I see Darius.
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It could never affect the way that you and I see Darius.
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Yeah, like, he still, to me, is like the Wagon Wheel guy. Legend, like, America's sweetheart. Right.
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Okay, so just wanted to remind everyone that. And what's so funny, and I hate.
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To be the one to bring it.
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Up, so on the episode, what we were saying is that, like, it's such a conspiracy against Darius to take down a good man, and here we are, like, perpetuating that.
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We reminded everyone. We said everyone would forgot, but we made it.
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We made it news last year, when honestly, it wasn't even newsworthy. And now here we are again, a year bringing it up, and we claim that, like, we support the best for Darius. And here we are, like, we are actively working against Darius. Good name.
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Okay, well, now we also actively have to all bury it in our minds and move on. You know, again, it's going to take mental fortitude to forget this once again. Yeah, but we're going to forget because.
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To Darius's arrest record. I want to forgive you.
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That's you.
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And I want to forget you. It's such a good.
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You say it every.
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I say all the time. I said it yesterday. It's such a good quote. And it's more relevant than ever. Like, when a. When you think about the context, like, Heidi and Spencer. We're literally still talking about Heidi and Spencer to this day. But also, like, sometimes, yeah, it's. It's kind of like the best thing you can say to someone. Like, yeah, I want to forgive You. But I want to forget you. Like, it's almost like indifference.
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Yeah. But it's like, if I'm going to forget you anyway, why do I have to forgive you?
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Why bother? Yeah. And Lauren was like hella dramatic because now we all know, like in hindsight, like there really wasn't much she needed to forgive Heidi for. Just like getting a boyfriend.
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Then there's like the sex tape stuff.
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Oh, I think. I don't. I don't.
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I think they wronged her.
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Yeah, well, I wanna forgive her and I wanna forget her.
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Yeah, well, good. Cause it's the one you got.
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It's a gargy pargy day. It's Tuesday. A little programming update for the community. If I can just take a minute. So today's episode is very special. At the end of the regular episode.
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It'S only the one year anniversary of Darius Rucker getting in some legal trouble. Forgetting it again. Now I'm going back to forgetting.
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And it is the one year anniversary of Darius Rucker getting into some legal trouble. It's also a pargy day where we have a pargy episode. At the end of today's episode, my bestie, Brian Kelly is on the episode we recorded last week to talk about his new book, which is all travel. You know, we ended up talking about like Darcy Silver from 90 Day Fiance, but there's really good stuff in there. So it's at the end of today's episode instead of Dear Toasters. Dear Toasters has been moved to Thursday, which is a usually a light day for us. So tomorrow will be our Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap. Thursday will be Dear Toasters and Friday will be Queenie and Weenie.
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Southern Charm. Don't forget about Southern Charm. I'll never let you guys down.
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I did forget about Southern Charm. I'm sorry. Oh, do we have a story?
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Do we have what A story.
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Paige's comments.
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Yes, we do.
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Okay, okay, okay. Because then I wanted to talk about at the top of the show, if we didn't.
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We do have it as a story. And speaking of books, I finished my book for the redheads last night. It was so good. We are recording today and I'm so excited. And after all the turmoil of my choice this month, if you've been keeping up, like, I chose a book that just wasn't available.
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It's been really hard for me.
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And then I kind of scrambled and I chose this book. It all really worked out and I'm so excited to record.
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Jackie, everything happens for a reason, you know?
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Yeah. So I'm very excited to record the redheads with my girlies. And you should read the book is all I'll say. But I'm not gonna push it on you.
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I actually bought the book last night, and I didn't read a word of it, but I bought it. So that's the first step.
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And I've now read two books this month. I'm getting back into reading, and it's gonna take a little effort, but I think it's worth the effort.
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I absolutely love that I did something kind of insane last night.
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What did you do?
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Jackie?
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What did you do?
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I did something kind of crazy last night.
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Crack.
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Crazier.
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Meth.
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Crazier. I had a Napoleon for dessert.
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I thought you were gonna say you watched Napoleon. That would be crazy.
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It's more likely that I would eat a Napoleon than watch Napoleon. Anything else.
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What a shame that that wasn't a good Napoleon biopic, because I really feel like we could use one.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Can we get back to the dessert really quickly? Because I had this sort of, like, renaissance within it. I've never looked at a dessert menu. When you look at the dessert menu, what are you, like, always looking for? What's like your go to safe option that if they have it, you'll just order it.
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If you're doing dessert, like, I like an apple pie. I like a toll house cookie. Like a cookie cake sort of thing. Like a skillet cooking a skillet with vanilla ice cream. I don't really go. Someone else would order, like, the brownie and I would have a bite, but I would never order it. I wouldn't go for, like, chocolate cake. I like carrot cake. I know that that's offensive to you.
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It's deeply.
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And that's about it. It has to be something like super party, like caramel, vanilla, apple. Yum.
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I pretty much always will go for the warm chocolate cake, like at any restaurant, especially, like a kosher restaurant. It's their specialty, like a warm chocolate cake. So when I was out to dinner last night, I was at a kosher restaurant and they didn't have a warm chocolate cake. And I was ready to pass. But something in my pregnancy, it's like I'm physically unable to move on without dessert. Like lunch, dinner, breakfast. I have to have a sweet treat.
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Like baby wants dessert.
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It's so true.
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So baby was created by Napoleon.
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My friend Margot was like, the Napoleon's here. Here is really good. I'm like, okay, sure. Like, I don't even know what a Napoleon is. It's So I don't know why I think of a Napoleon and I think of that scene in Hannah Montana, but I know that that's a baked Alaska.
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Baked Alaska is disgusting. I agree. It's so gross.
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I completely agree.
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But inedible. I know you get distracted by the flames, but the taste is disgusting.
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I completely agree. And it's. It's what?
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It's liquor burned with marshmallow.
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Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a marshmallow liquor burn for sure. Okay, that sounds right. So I was very apprehensive. I'm not gonna lie. Like, a Napoleon just gives baked Alaska. And let me tell you, Jackie, I think you would love it. It was. I can't recommend. Next time you go out of it, if they have a Napoleon, just grab it. It's so light and fluffy and airy. It obviously wasn't filling enough, but it did satiate, like, my sweet tooth for the moment.
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It reminds me.
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Delicious.
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I definitely had Napoleon before, and it kind of reminds me of that cake from Ciprian Love, like, the top of.
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It a little bit. It's actually not similar.
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The top of that cake also, like, ventures into baked Alaska Territory sometimes when they. When they hit with the flame torch too much.
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I do feel like the, like, lemon. Vanilla lemon meringue cake from Cipriani is kind of in a league of its own when it comes to desserts. And if any of our listeners are coming to New York anytime soon and they want to see, like, the latest and greatest, I highly recommend getting, like, the 30 piece of cake from Chani. It's huge, by the way. You could split it with two or three people.
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And.
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And it's probably the most. You know what?
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Two people.
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I'm gonna get it.
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You should. I think it travels well. They're on, like, caviar. And also, the good thing about Cipriani.
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Is I could get my fat ass up and go, like, I could just go sit in the restaurant.
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All the food there is also so good at every. No, but that cake, they have high standards.
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That cake is different. Like, that cake, I don't know what they put in it. Crack. And honestly, we have to thank Brian Kelly for introducing us to it.
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Is that what we did when we.
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Had it for the first time?
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His ball?
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Yeah. He had, like, a table at a charity event. Was it Amfar or something? And the kid, the caterer. That's so us.
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That's. When we were at Amfar, we just.
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Died on Chibrion Catering. Was Chipriani. Like, the food was so Good. Like, it was a pasta. And by the end, we were like, yeah, we'll try this cake. And we were sitting with Heather McMahon, and we all took a bite, and we looked at each other, and we were like, oh, my God, it's actual heroin.
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Yeah. And now every time we find ourselves at Cipriani, we have a piece of the cake, and it's so good. And when I was pregnant, I would order from there once in a while as a sweet treat, and I would always get the cake, and it always hits.
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That's so brilliant. I can't believe I just, like, I'm now thinking of that, because over the weekend, I was. I'm really in my sweets era. I ordered Magnolia Bakery. I got, like, a full piece of cake and two cupcakes. So good. And it travels really well. So I've really been, like, looking for delicious, sweet treats. Of course. I have my 40 carrots frozen yogurt almost every single day. And how did I not think of the lemon meringue cake?
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You need to order that cookie that we got from that road PR package that one time. Do you remember that sprinkle?
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Of course I do. Of course I do. What company was it?
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It was called, like, Delicious. I'm on their mailing list.
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Okay.
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Because I did place an order for them after Haley introduced us to that cookie. And it's. And I'm not even a sprinkle cookie, like, kind of person. I don't, like, like, rainbow sprinkles. Yucky. The cookie was the best cookie we've ever had.
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Did you see Melissa Gorgas launching her own line of sprinkle cookies? Which I don't. I actually think it's, like, a cutesy idea, but I don't think it bodes well for the future of Real Housewives of Beverly of New Jersey. I actually saw Margaret Joseph's last week. Or was that this week? No, last week at Brian. Everything's coming back to Brian today at his book party. And I was like, what is going on with the show? She's like, I have no idea. Like, she. And she. If she had tea, she would tell me. Like. And I wouldn't tell you guys, but I could say she's like, you wouldn't know.
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I just wouldn't say that. There was nothing.
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I wouldn't bring it up.
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Right.
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She was like, I have heard nothing. We have no clue. Nobody does.
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Wow. I did see the sprinkle cookies. Like, love that. I wonder how that. What the operation looks like, you know, Like. Yeah, like.
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Or is it Like a collab with a local bakery.
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And is it like a family recipe? What's the recipe? Because wasn't the point of the sprinkle cookies that they were, like, bought from the store?
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Right. She brought me sprinkle cookies, so I.
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Just like to know more.
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And you know what? I've actually never had a pinoli cookie, which is what Teresa had preferred in that moment. I don't even know what those look like.
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I now I need to Google a pinoli.
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I feel like it's those rainbow cookies. Like, I feel like, oh, ew.
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We're so good guys today. Like, just talking about food the whole time. Yeah.
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Oh, we also have to talk about the good guys. By the way, pinoli cookies are traditional Italian treat, originated in Sicily. They're almond and chewy. They look disgusting. Teresa's so wrong for this, by the way. How has nobody ever dug into what she's actually saying? While sprinkle cookies are not, like, the best, they're very, like, generic and whatever. They are amazing in comparison to what I'm looking at. This pinoli cook on gold belly.
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Maybe I'll send you some.
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Please don't. I hate almonds. Even though I have heard that almonds help with pregnancy heartburn. I don't think they're thinking you're going to eat it in a cookie. They're hoping that you'll eat them raw. But I can make my own way in this world.
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Yeah. Worth trying.
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The good guys. Did you hear the big news, Josh, about his wife?
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Yeah.
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Yes. Josh's life.
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Start expecting. They are.
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Oh, that's cute.
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Ting.
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They should have asked you for help with their captions because that's a good one.
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I wouldn't have even thought of it. I have to live in the. You know, it has to just come out marinate.
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Josh is expecting his third child, and he told Ben on the podcast, like, two weeks ago. And obviously, like, it's such an exciting time because we're both pregnant. The good guys and the good gals like bringing, you know, Jewish babies into this world. But Josh was, like, actually, like. And that's how I know, like, Josh is a good friend, because he was like, I didn't want to even remotely, like, have any, like, step on Claudia's moment. And you know how much my moments mean to me because I'm an actual four year old and I can't even tell you, like, that's the best gift he could have gotten me. He does not owe me any gifts. I don't want his registry. Nothing like it was such a kind and thoughtful thing to say for, like, the crazy person in your life, like myself.
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Right. So did they, like, delay when they would have announced?
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I don't know, but he delayed even, like, telling Ben. Like, he just wanted Ben to have his moment. First time dad, like, so thoughtful. I was, like, actually taken aback by the generosity. Like, that, to me, like, means a lot.
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That's really, really sweet. Did they say gender based? Their own gender? Not.
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They're not finding out.
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Did they find out for their first two?
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I don't know. And actually, I want to ask you a question because I was with my friend Rachel last night, and she's pregnant and she doesn't know what she's having. And she says, when you go to the ultrasound, do you see the penis?
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And I'm like, no, the ultrasound tech can see it. And maybe if you have an expert eye or you've done, like, you know where to look, then maybe you could see it as a lay person. But no, a layper. Like, they. You don't even really know what you're looking at. And sometimes they'll point and be like, that's the penis. But you would never know that that was the penis if they didn't tell you.
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Okay, so that's what I said. I'm like, rachel, no, I've never seen the penis in my life. Like, you can tell the tech that, like, you're not finding out, but, like, you're not you. She's like, I'm looking away during my scans. I'm like, no, look at the scans. You're not going to see it. It's not even like, well, you'll be able to.
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She might, like, think that she sees something and then she'll think, like, she might, like, clue herself into something and she could be wrong. Like, I understand looking away so that you don't, like, convince yourself of something.
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No, because. I'm sorry, what? They're going to have breasts if they're a girl. Like, there's no. There's literally no way to see on a sonogram or any sort of imaging if you're having a boy or a girl. I don't know, a little penis could.
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Be a fleck of something if you've been there before. Like, now I've done, like, two separate pregnancies of sonograms every time they, like, see the pen. Like, oh, that's a penis. So, like, say next time, I didn't want to know, but I kind of knew what I was looking for. I might be Able to figure it out.
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Well, that is.
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At the very least, I would think I knew.
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That's what Josh said. He said that they're not finding out the gender, like, until a nurse ruins it by accident, you know?
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Right. Yeah. And you also. I think that happens a lot because they might know, and then they'll just use pronouns and.
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Yeah.
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But I feel like they're trained to be like, baby's doing this, baby's doing that.
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Yeah. Actually, my physical therapist was telling me a story about how she didn't want to know gender, and then, like, literally, at the ninth month, the doctor accidentally.
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Slipped a. Oh, my goodness.
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Yeah.
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And.
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Which I get. Seriously. Not the doctor's fault. Like, how in the hell do you refer to this thing like it. Would you say it like, it's. I could totally understand how it happens, but that just sucks.
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A
And when you were at the physical therapist, were you wearing your pants or.
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No, no. I'm never wearing my pants at physical therapy. Like, all. I'm going today, and I'm just going. I literally. It's kind of crazy how I leave my house for an hour to get fingered, and I come back, like. And I just waltz into my husband like nothing happened. It's seriously. But I do want to say my pelvic muscles are getting much stronger. Should we do our keels together? Actually haven't done them today. Come on. Ready?
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Okay, relax.
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Uncross your legs.
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A
Oh, that's hard for me.
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Now we're going to inhale and relax our badge. Exhale and keel. That's one. That's two. That's three. That's four. Oh, man. You're not doing it.
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That's five. I'm not a big breather. Ask Dr. Fox. He said I have a runner's pulse.
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So overrated.
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He says I have a runner's pulse.
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You should. Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up.
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A
They're going on 5k again.
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B
The 5k is happening. They just announced it. It's in Florida.
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A
What?
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It's in Tampa. I did it last year. I think you have to do it. You and Zach can do it together.
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Okay. Like, twist my arm. Okay.
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Okay. I think you only have, like, a month or two, though. Oh, no, I think it's in May.
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That's fine. I can run a 5k. Like, me. I mean, I could train and get it.
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She doesn't need, like, a full training. Like, I could train to get.
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I could train to get a better time, but, like, I could do it. So. Yeah, maybe I'll go Do it. Hobnob with some podcasters, rub elbows.
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B
Jelly Roll's doing it again. And you can tell how much you love that song.
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You ain't nothing but a liar. I wonder who else is doing it. Like, I meet some friends. You know me. I'm sorry. I'm really so shy. I don't know if I could do it, like, without you.
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I had Josh and Ben, like, by my side. Let's see. Big bear. What was it called? 5K.
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Yeah, a big bear. 1K K, 2 bear, 5, 2. Bigger is 5K.
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Bears, 2 bears, 5K. I think that's what it's called.
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Yeah.
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So sometimes they announce, like, which stars are going to be there. Jelly Roll.
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Wait, when is it? When is it?
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May 4th. May 4th.
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Oh, okay. That would just.
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B
That's enough time. Yeah.
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A
Yeah. No, I just thought maybe I could, like, sync up a trip to Tampa with something else I was planning to do out west.
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B
Rascal Flats.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Oh, I finally, like, gave a proper listen to the Rascal Flats Jonas Brothers collab. And I have to say, it's such a beautiful, inspiring song. I, like, actually started, like, getting a little tearied up when I was listening to it the other day. It's as good as it should be. We put a lot of pressure on it because these are two, you know.
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A
Important bands and six people can't get one song.
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B
And by the way, let me just say, I feel like I actually am consciously aware when I'm listening to the song how many people are singing.
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A
A lot of cooks.
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B
It's a lot of voices, like. And I feel like Nick maybe had a part in writing it or a part in, like, making this happen, because he sings, like, a little bit more than Joe, and he never sings more than Joe. Like, these days, it's like Joe's the lead singer. We've just sort of all accepted that. And I'm hearing a lot of Nick.
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A
Yeah. And then they got to compete with Gary, and it's like they thought they both, like, were the number one guy in this group. And then, like, Gary comes through and it's like, children, sit down.
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B
Like, let me show you how the big boys do it. It's a really beautiful song. Like, I love it.
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A
It is really beautiful. All the credit to the Rascal Flats.
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B
And where is that Grammy? Do Rascal Flats have a Grammy?
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A
Probably, I'm going to say probably, like a broken Road song. God bless the broken road. God bless. They don't.
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B
Four nominations, zero wins the Grammys.
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A
The Grammys are fucking disgusting. Enterprise, like I don't know why we're surprised.
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B
Like, why do we care who would want a Grammy, honestly? But based on how the disgusting they are. Like, would you want, like, something disgusting?
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A
No, I want something at Rascal Flats. Don't have.
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B
No, no, no. Oh, my God. How have we already been talking for 20 minutes? What did we talk about?
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A
Cookies? Food.
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B
Oh, yeah. Okay, so I need to. I need to write down. Write that down. I have to get that. Maybe. You know what? I have to. Oh, I'm hosting a book event tonight with Brian. I'm sorry. I'm, like, being so annoying about, like, my friend Ryan. It's like, we got it. You have one friend. So I'll be dressed this evening. And then I thought me and Ben would go to dinner. Maybe I'll go to Chipriani I and get myself the piece of cake.
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A
Yummo.
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B
Yum. Oh, Jackie O yum.
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A
Oh, yummo. I wonder if there's a Chipriani down here. Now you're making me hungry.
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B
There's definitely one in Miami, except they.
- [20:52]
A
Have, like, salad there that I love, that I've actually googled the recipe for and made myself. And it's really good. I mean, it's a simple salad, but, like, with the dressing. Yeah, there's. There's one in Miami. Okay.
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B
I do. I do have a hot take. And actually, it reminds me of something I was talking about at dinner last night, because we went to, like, an Italian place that, like, makes their own pasta, and Cipriani is one of those Italian places that makes their own pasta. It's, like, clearly not from, like, a wholesaler. They have to, like, make it with the dough. And my friend Rachel, who I was just talking about, she married someone who, like, grew up in Rome. He's, like, hardcore Italian. He's American now. But she was, like, talking about the difference because, you know, pasta is so important to them. She was like, his name is Ben. Ben also, like, really prefers boxed pasta over handmade. Because we were saying how, like, handmade pasta is kind of gross. Like, when you go to a restaurant, if I see that they make their own pasta, I'm like, all right, I'll have the pizza. Like, I don't. Like. Like, the texture is weird. Like, I think a handmade pasta is gross.
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A
She was saying this.
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B
Yes. Well, I was.
- [21:45]
A
I didn't know where I was. I didn't know where, like, the Rachel quote I was expressing my feelings of the Ben ended.
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B
There was.
- [21:51]
A
Okay, so quotes.
- [21:51]
B
I was. I was quoting my own self. And then but then it was right after Rachel said, like, even Ben, who's, like, Italian, like, prefers it in the box.
- [21:59]
A
Interesting. People, like, really love making their own pasta. I figure I'll try it one day. But we don't really eat a lot of pasta around here, so it's not.
- [22:05]
B
I think it's a lot of work, and it's, like, not that good. Like, it's, like, lumpy.
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A
Oh, I've heard it's worth it.
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B
Oh, I don't think so.
- [22:13]
C
No.
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B
Shade to Shannon Ford, cuz I know she makes her own pasta and she's, like, really excited about it, but, like, if I ever come to her house, like, I want the blue box. What's the. What is it called?
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A
Barilla. I love or did Chico.
- [22:24]
B
No, this. I'm a Barilla household these days.
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A
I'm a jovial girl.
- [22:28]
B
I'm. I'm actually a jovial girl, too, but I'm also a Ro's girl. Rao's. This jarred sauce makes pasta.
- [22:35]
A
Oh. Oh, I knew that.
- [22:36]
B
It's amazing. I had it the other night with meatballs. Like, it's just. It's what it should be.
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A
Understood.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay.
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B
Sorry, I just.
- [22:44]
A
Well, not to make you too hungry this morning.
- [22:47]
B
Yeah, Right? We are being so good guys. Coded.
- [22:49]
A
We are being so good girls.
- [22:51]
B
Yeah. We're so good girls. Should we rebrand? Come for their necks.
- [22:59]
A
Yeah.
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B
Watch out. Yeah.
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A
First their billboard, now they're next.
- [23:05]
B
Literally.
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A
Okay.
- [23:07]
B
No, after. After, like, the graciousness and the grace that Josh gave me. He's in. The good guys are on my good side for at least a month.
- [23:15]
A
Yeah, they are the good guys, after all. And he's in my favorite scene in my movie.
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B
Correct.
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A
Okay, now, without further ado, da do, here are the fast fact stories that you do need to know.
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B
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A
Like a good neighbor. State Farm is there. I did it in high voice. What's that called?
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B
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A
I'm going to the studio.
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B
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A
Thank you today.
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B
You're welcome.
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A
A lot of super bowl adjacent news today. This is the week we're ramping up towards the super bowl. And our first story is about Travis Kelsey and all the annoying questions that reporters are asking him in his pre game interviews.
- [26:44]
B
So wait. Also total side bar. Did you see the Associated Press release a statement?
- [26:50]
A
I did.
- [26:51]
B
It was just like apologizing for cutting off, cutting short baby faces interview. Oh, my God. I've never in my life felt compelled to, like, leave a hate comment. I almost did, but I opened the comments and they took care of themselves. I was surprised Associated Press left the comments on People were like, it was not station. Not only was it like, not a good apology, it was like a text. I don't need to hear from the ap. I want to hear from the girl. Like, it was just very like. And people were not. It was not sufficient for the community. Like, people were so mad in the comments that I didn't feel like I needed to leave a hate comment.
- [27:19]
A
Yeah, I think people are super mad about it. And I mean, she apologized at the end of the show. Like, what more do you actually want to see from her?
- [27:26]
B
Like, nothing, Nothing. I actually don't want to see anything from her. That's the point. And this is what we're always talking about. Like, bring back entertainment journalists. You know who wouldn't have done this? Kelsey Knight. Like, it's an art. It's a skill set. So, like, having just a young girl who had maybe like has a couple of followers. I don't know who this girl is, but, like, I don't know where they're finding their talent, but, like, because we sort of thrown journalism out the window when it comes to these red carpets, this is what you get.
- [27:50]
A
Yeah, like, I think that's just she was doing it for the chapel. Like, her fans or whoever she thought was watching, like, wanted to hear from Chapel Road. And they probably aren't offended by it. And. Okay, that's your community, you know.
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B
Great, great.
- [28:02]
A
So Travis Kelsey's naming his favorite Taylor Swift albums, staying tight lipped about Reputation tv, and also responding to questions about whether or not he's going to propose to Taylor during the halftime.
- [28:15]
B
And we had this conversation last year. I'm sure we'll have it again next year. Like, the inappropriate cringe level that some of these reporters get to when they ask Travis questions about Taylor. Don't get me wrong, I want to hear about Taylor too. And there are ways to, like, weave in certain questions, but the outright, like, cringe nature of them should be a crime punishable by jail. Are you going to propose on the field? Yeah, I am. Here's my plan. You want to see a picture of the ring? Like, are you guys fucking kidding me?
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A
But even he's not obviously not going to propose during.
- [28:42]
B
Obviously. Also, they're already engaged. You can't propose to somebody you're already engaged to.
- [28:46]
A
Right. A Nickelodeon reporter asked what his. Excuse me, a reporter for Nickelodeon.
- [28:52]
B
Oh, because they do that, like, Slime bowl, right. Where you can watch the super bowl live on Nickelodeon, but it's like Patrick and Squidward playing. It's cute.
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A
So he, the reporter asked what Travis's favorite Taylor album is. And actually I thought it's not.
- [29:07]
B
It's not a terrible question. It's like, it's not the most appropriate. But for Nickelodeon, like, it's fine.
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A
It's fine. I actually thought he would have said 1989 because, like, those are his favorite songs. But he said Tortured Poets Department. He said, of course, I'm a little biased. I mean, that's the only one.
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B
Okay. Media Trained King. Like, Tortured Poets is obviously the most recent album. We're still promoting it. It just got nominated for all these Grammys. Like, that's a very strategic answer. No.
- [29:30]
A
And it's like, I wouldn't think that there would be a right answer. Like, what's your favorite album? It's not a hard question, but this is the right answer because what are you to say that her best work was behind her? Like, no, the thing that she just put out is the best thing ever. That would, like, sound shady.
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B
Not only that, like, yeah, her best work was a song she wrote about Joe Jonas. Nah, bitch, it was about me.
- [29:46]
A
Well, you know, he loves 1989, like, because he loves those radio bops. So Travis, this was the right answer. And it's about him.
- [29:55]
B
And by the way, we didn't even talk about how when Taylor presented the Best Country Album award, the song that she walked out to from her TTPD album was so High School, which is so clearly a choice because that's, like, not even the most popular song. And what's on her single, why wouldn't she walk out to Fortnite? That's what she was nominated for. Right? Between the red dress, the tea on her upper thigh and then. So high school.
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A
Like, she's married.
- [30:15]
B
She's married.
- [30:17]
A
Sometimes all the signs are right in front of us and we're still.
- [30:21]
B
It's like, how can we not see? Yeah.
- [30:23]
A
So he said he can neither confirm nor deny. Rep tv.
- [30:29]
B
Yeah. What did we think? He was going to spill the beans? People really need to leave this man alone. Like, dead.
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A
Seriously.
- [30:33]
B
No.
- [30:33]
A
The questions are so crazy.
- [30:35]
B
And Jackie, I assure you, they're only going to get worse from here.
- [30:38]
A
He's also was raving about her homemade pop tarts.
- [30:41]
B
Yeah, but he's talked about that, like, once before. I was having deja vu reading this article.
- [30:45]
A
Yeah, me too. They must be really good.
- [30:47]
B
I don't know. I had a homemade pop tart. No shade to Olivia Ashrae, because I asked her to follow this recipe that I found on Instagram. They were disgusting, like, really gross.
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A
But maybe Taylor has a good one. Maybe she should drop it.
- [30:59]
B
Yeah, she should share it.
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A
She like her cookie recipe that we made. Remember, that we did on Patreon.
- [31:06]
B
Oh, my God, those chai. Right?
- [31:08]
A
Yeah, we totally it up. Like, I.
- [31:11]
B
We didn't up. Actually, the Instacart who delivered our groceries, ordered the raw, bought the wrong things.
- [31:16]
A
Yes. And it was a brand. Sent it all to us, remember?
- [31:21]
B
No.
- [31:21]
A
Yes. It was like. I don't know which brand it was. It was, like, in support of, like, Taylor's new album. Maybe it was Instacart themselves. They, like, sent a delivery, and it was all the ingredients to make Taylor's favorite cookies.
- [31:32]
B
So we're like, okay, let's Instacart campaign.
- [31:35]
A
And, like, they didn't send chai spices, but they sent chai tea. And like, we.
- [31:40]
B
They send chai tea. We cut open the bags.
- [31:43]
A
Cut open the bags because we thought maybe those were chai spices in there. We put.
- [31:46]
B
We made tea cookies. It's kind of, like, smart at the time. Like, I don't think it's so dumb.
- [31:54]
A
No. And we also, like, put them in the blender. And this was before I started Baking. So, like, I didn't know the different, like, paddle attachments on the stand mixer. So we use like the whisk instead of the dough whisk. They were a mess. They did.
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B
Available@patreon.com the toes.
- [32:09]
A
They did not turn out. I also don't like reflection on Taylor's recipe.
- [32:13]
B
Her recipe.
- [32:14]
A
I love. I love chai. I don't know if you guys know that about me because I really deny, like, other girls. I deny myself chai lattes because it's like an unnecessary calorie expenditure. But I love them. It's kind of like how you like vanilla beans. People don't know that about you.
- [32:30]
B
Who doesn't like a vanilla bean? Frappuccino from Starbucks. You know what? Maybe I'll get one today.
- [32:34]
A
They're so sugary.
- [32:36]
B
They're so fucking delicious.
- [32:38]
A
They taste wrong.
- [32:41]
B
Yeah. Because. Well, first of all, like, not us drinking them as kids. Like, thinking we were drinking coffee.
- [32:45]
A
Yeah.
- [32:47]
B
And they are. I need to have one. Even though I could. I know what it tastes like. Even though it's been 15 years since I've had one. I could describe it. I know exactly what it tastes like.
- [32:59]
A
Same with me and a chai latte.
- [33:01]
B
Maybe we should just go live life. They're cautioned to the wind. Have a. Have a fudgeing vanilla bean.
- [33:06]
A
I don't know. I think the comedown would just be, like, so bad.
- [33:10]
B
Right? It's like a 15 year hype.
- [33:12]
A
No, I mean the come down from the sugar.
- [33:15]
B
Sugar.
- [33:15]
A
Sugar high. And the sugar.
- [33:18]
B
And I just want to say back to Taylor's Homemade Pop Tarts. Pop tarts themselves. Actually just had one because I'm clearly eating a lot of sugar these days. It's unbelievable. And I know that pop tarts, like, the, the brand name ones are like the first thing RFK is going to take when he goes. Like. I know that they're just like the most horrible things for you and for kids. Let me tell you, it was worth every chemical. It was delicious.
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A
Yeah. I don't think they're the first to go.
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B
Like, what do you think is the first?
- [33:46]
A
I don't know. I just watched this super bowl commercial for nerds with Shibuzi, and the commercial was amazing. But, like, nerdsy out.
- [33:55]
B
Out here making money from big candy.
- [33:57]
A
All those dyes, all that sugar, like, rotting your teeth, rotting your brain. I. I love the commercial. And my husband and I don't even like nerds. Like, I think they're nasty and I think that they should be illegal.
- [34:08]
B
I Don't like nerds either. Like, the fact that whenever Ben and I, like, get candy, Ben always goes for nerds. Gummy clusters.
- [34:15]
A
And, like. And what the is nerds Rope.
- [34:17]
B
It's gummy clusters in a rope form. Like, they're so not even, like, innovating over there at nerds hq. And I think, like, classic nerds, like, in a box. Like, the loose. Like, seriously, what's the point?
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A
What's the point?
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B
I agree. I think nerds are, like, the worst candy.
- [34:31]
A
Agreed. But I'm happy for Shibuzi that he's in a Super bowl commercial and he's singing It's a Wonderful World by Louis Armstrong. Like, it's quite pargy.
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B
Oh, my God.
- [34:39]
A
But, like, there's no amount of marketing that could get a nerd to taste good to me.
- [34:43]
B
Okay, so nerds are clearly, like, crushing it in the marketing department, but in, like, the product development team really needs to step their up right in the factory.
- [34:51]
A
Like, what could they even do? But I'm also, like, I said, like, I'm not Sprinkles Colors girl.
- [34:55]
B
Yeah. I happen to, like, like, colorful, sugary stuff. Nerds don't do it for me.
- [34:59]
A
Yeah. We're talking so much about food this episode.
- [35:03]
B
I wonder why I had, like, a balanced breakfast. I'm not, like, particularly starving, you know, more so than usual.
- [35:08]
A
I don't know. Just when it rains, it pours sometimes.
- [35:10]
B
Kind of that time of year.
- [35:11]
A
Sometimes it's the Kardashians, sometimes it's Taylor and Travis, and sometimes it's food.
- [35:15]
B
It's food. I love that. Well, I hope people, like, really stop embarrassing themselves.
- [35:19]
A
They won't. Like, it's only Tuesday and we've got.
- [35:22]
B
This week when it comes to Travis, like, people. And I get it. Like, I've never met either of them. I'm sure I would be a freak. What if I ever met either of them and got to ask them a question? But, like, people really need to, like, control themselves a little bit better around these two.
- [35:34]
A
I agree. Our next story.
- [35:36]
B
And. And by the way, they both handle it so well.
- [35:39]
A
Him especially, like, he's such a jokester. I don't think anything offends him, and it's really actually refreshing. But I'm offended on his behalf.
- [35:47]
B
And he has to do just for, like, by the nature of his job, like, a couple of press conferences a week. So he's just, like, putting himself in the position of, like, being asked stupid questions quite a bit. Taylor doesn't do interviews, like, so for. It's like, all the questions you would want to ask Taylor that are stupid, you put them on Travis. Now people have found an outlet.
- [36:01]
A
Like, I wonder if he has any threshold for when he would be bothered by these questions. Like, is there anything that they could ask that with be too far? Because I'm sorry. Like, are you going to propose during halftime for me? That would be the line for me.
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B
Yeah. That's such a good point. He's such a good sport about it. I'm sure. Like, if it's an inappropriate question, like, it. But, like, the sports. Sports doesn't do that. Like, sports is very pg.
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A
Yeah.
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B
They're just weird.
- [36:25]
A
Yeah.
- [36:25]
B
People are so weird. And they have no shame. I mean, it comes back to what we're always saying. Bring back shame in media literacy.
- [36:31]
A
Right. Our next story. A little more super bowl news. All the performers we haven't talked about. National anthem. Oh, America the Beautiful. So here is who is performing at the 2025 Super Bowl.
- [36:43]
B
Oh, wait. I'm so excited. Yes.
- [36:45]
A
So the national anthem will be sung by Jon Batiste.
- [36:49]
B
Okay. You know what? I think that has a lot of potential.
- [36:52]
A
I. I'm not familiar with his work so much.
- [36:55]
B
That's crazy, because I actually think you would love him too. Like, his vibe. He's like a concert pianist.
- [37:01]
A
I look forward his wife to the introduction.
- [37:05]
B
There's, like, a very famous popular book out that was actually written by his wife. I feel like you probably have, like, seen or heard of it.
- [37:10]
A
I'm on my way. I believe she goes by Batiste as well.
- [37:17]
B
I don't think so. Between Two Kingdoms.
- [37:20]
A
She doesn't go by Batiste.
- [37:23]
B
It's called Between Two Kingdoms.
- [37:24]
A
Good choice. Awards for best memoir.
- [37:27]
B
Yeah, I believe she had cancer, and the book is about that, and it's a memoir.
- [37:32]
A
Oh, that does sound good.
- [37:33]
B
And it's like, I see it all the time, and then I found out that it's Jon Batiste's wife.
- [37:37]
A
Wow.
- [37:38]
B
Yeah, like, so random, but cute.
- [37:40]
A
That is cute. Well, I'm. I'm looking forward to the performance then.
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B
I love that national. Like, that's the best part of the super bowl for me, seeing everyone cry. Yeah, it's the best part when I watch the. So much pressure, like, the semifinals or whatever it's called when, yeah, the Chiefs ever almost crying, like, they just cut to, like, these random players who I don't know, but, like, I'm sure are really famous, and they just, like, blink, and then a tear falls, like, seriously kill me. I'm so upset.
- [38:04]
A
Yeah, no, I'm Very excited. And it's been really good the last few years. Like, I feel like they do a good job selecting people who've got the chop. So I look forward to that. Then. America the Beautiful will be performed by trombone Shorty alongside Christian music singer Lauren Daigle.
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B
So I don't know who Trombone Shorty is.
- [38:24]
A
He. His roots run deep in New Orleans as he's performed at the city's iconic jazz fest and the Super Bowls in New Orleans. So I'm sure.
- [38:30]
B
Is he playing the trombone? Is that what it is?
- [38:31]
A
I like, I'm going to glean that he's playing the trombone as trombone Shorty. I'm gonna say that. And I mean, picture he's playing a trombone.
- [38:38]
B
I think it's a safe bet. Tapping a Christian music singer for a song like this is really parchy because elicits the same sort of, like, soulful response. Both songs. So I. And Lauren Daigle has an amazing voice.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You say I am lost when I am falling like, so good.
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A
So good. And then lift every voice and sing will be performed by Ladisi, who is also a New Orleans native.
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B
That's nice that they're, you know, like, showcasing home. Home town talent.
- [39:12]
A
And John Batiste is a New Orleans native, so that's obviously the theme.
- [39:16]
B
Oh, that's really nice.
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A
Yeah. I look forward to seeing what everyone brings.
- [39:22]
B
Yeah. Lots of pressure, like, a lot of pressure, like, coming from me.
- [39:26]
A
Yeah. Totally agree. And then, as we know, Kendrick Lamar is the halftime show. Sis is coming out. And now I'm actually extra excited for Kendrick Lamar's halftime show given that his song was so popular. And I look forward. I look forward to hearing it in the context.
- [39:38]
B
Everything's kind of coming up. Kendrick.
- [39:40]
A
It is. I finished watching some of the Grammy stuff last night.
- [39:44]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [39:45]
A
Because I told you guys I needed to watch Charlie xcx because I feel like I'm really hard on her. And I, I, I'm not, like, going off of that much material. Just the things that I've seen. So I was like, the Grammys, that's like, that's best Charlie. And it's exactly what I think it is.
- [39:58]
B
Like, it's. It's not for you.
- [40:01]
A
It's not for me. But she's very much for her. Like, she. I don't think she's making music and, and planning her performances to cater to me, you know?
- [40:09]
B
No, it's like club rat, like, you know, scene.
- [40:13]
A
Yeah. And I was, like, thinking back because they were, like, doing an introduction of brat Brad Summer, and I Was like remembering why I have such like a bad taste in my mouth from brat. And it was because she said like brat is about like forgetting about your moral compass.
- [40:24]
B
Your moral compass out.
- [40:26]
A
Moral compass. And to me, that's where I leave you.
- [40:29]
B
A moral compass never goes out of style.
- [40:31]
A
Like you can have moral compass never goes out of style. You can have fun. You could be messy.
- [40:36]
B
It's true.
- [40:37]
A
Late nights. But like we want to keep that compass intact. We do.
- [40:40]
B
I have to tell you what's going on on Tick Tock. The Alex Earl is doing the craziest thing.
- [40:44]
A
What is she doing?
- [40:46]
B
So one of her best friends, Sally is turning 24. And you know like, Alex Earl's a party girl.
- [40:50]
A
Sally, her real name. Or like you're just calling herself. Okay. I feel like that's what we call people when they definitely.
- [40:55]
B
It gives, it gives pseudonym energy.
- [40:57]
A
But no, her name is Dexter Morgan.
- [40:59]
B
She has decided for her 24th birthday like this last weekend to celebrate. To commemorate her 24th birthday by throwing a 24 hour party.
- [41:09]
A
I saw Alex Earl getting ready for a 24 hour party.
- [41:13]
B
So they started at like 7am and then they like partied all day into the night, into the next morning. They went to like brunch. They went to a club like, and she has been like vlogging the experience, but like, not like every minute of every hour. And like I need to know how like. And I was a party girl in my day, but like I had my limits. You know how the do you do that?
- [41:36]
A
Drugs?
- [41:39]
B
I don't know.
- [41:40]
A
Even just like an Adderall.
- [41:42]
B
Yeah, maybe an Adderall.
- [41:43]
A
I'm not gonna like Jacques Alex Earl of any.
- [41:44]
B
But like, no, I would never. It's just like, seriously, it's the craziest thing to be young.
- [41:50]
A
Yeah. Especially because alcohol like makes you sleepy at a certain point.
- [41:54]
B
Of course now I have to imagine like maybe in the morning hours, like they were brunching, like just doing like mimosas. Like maybe they weren't really drunk until like that night. They were just like little buzz. That's the only way I think you could get through it.
- [42:05]
A
Yeah. So the 24 hours are up, but Alex is like posting the videos slowlier.
- [42:11]
B
Yes. And I think she's going to like, she just launched like a YouTube channel when TikTok was down, which was very smart of her. So I imagine it'll all be on her long form content.
- [42:19]
A
So the day is done, but like we haven't seen how it ends yet.
- [42:22]
B
The day is done and you know, TikTok like, serves you content like days later. So I'm just like, finally catching up with Alix Earl's weekend and I seriously think it's the craziest thing ever. I can't get over it.
- [42:31]
A
That is crazy. But that is really fun. A fun way to spend 24th birthday and.
- [42:36]
B
And make content.
- [42:37]
A
And make content. Except, like, it's for Sally, who was just doing it for Sally's self.
- [42:41]
B
Yeah.
- [42:43]
A
Happy birthday, Sally.
- [42:45]
B
Happy birthday to Sally.
- [42:47]
A
Let me know how it ends.
- [42:49]
B
Yeah.
- [42:50]
A
Are you ready for our third story?
- [42:54]
B
Yeah.
- [42:55]
A
Paige desorbo is clarifying her Craig Conover breakup timeline after baseless cheating rumors. So Paige is pissed.
- [43:03]
B
I would say I think so too.
- [43:05]
A
Paige set the record straight on the timeline of her breakup from ex Craig Conover after facing baseless cheating rumors. She said on the latest episode of Giggly Squad, quote, I never. In the three years that I dated my ex boyfriend, I never physically cheated on him. Emotionally cheated on him. Can you mentally cheat on him? I don't know, but I didn't. She said she then clarified that her and Craig broke up one month before they announced their split in December 2024. She said, since no one's sticking up for me on either side, I will say that Craig and I broke up Thanksgiving weekend. Okay, that's at the end of November. Craig then went on and did press for Southern Charm. Did whatever he needed to do, acting as if we were still together and that was fine. I said that he could do that. He was processing in his own way. However, after Christmas passed, Paige noticed that Craig was presenting himself as single while on a trip, which led her to believe he was ready to announce their split. It. She claimed that she texted him to give him a heads up that she would be sharing the news on Giggly Squad to start moving forward. She said, my text went unanswered. Fine. The breakup episode came out at the end of December. She said the narrative surrounding their breakup took a turn really quickly as cheating rumors went viral. Despite recently being linked to a new man, the reality star stated that she is currently single. She said, let me say this here and now. I did not move on with some new guy. I am single. I don't have a new boyfriend. I did not cheat on my ex boyfriend. It was a full month that we were broken up and I didn't say anything because even though we are public, there are certain things that I think should be remaining private. And he asked me not to say anything.
- [44:27]
B
Okay. I feel bad for Paige and I do want to tell her, like because she's very much, like, at the center of this, right? As an outsider who, like, consumes media chronically online. Like, I can tell you, like, normal folks, like, we do not think you cheated. Do not worry. Like, I think that this is, like, plaguing you. Because who wants to be painted as a cheater when they're not? And I want to tell you, like, nobody thinks that, like, real crazy. The crazy. Bravo. Like, yes, for sure. And I can only imagine what she has to deal with, because when we were just talking about, like, the AI generated fake news again, I'm on Facebook, like, literally all about Craig and Page. It must be really fudgeing annoying. And I can sympathize with that. But I wanted her to know, like, the true normies out here, like, we don't think that. We never thought that. Like, there was the Marcello thing, but it was quickly debunked. Like, normies with their heads above water. Like, we got you. Nobody thinks you cheated on Craig.
- [45:10]
A
No real ones. Never thought she cheated on Craig. Never thought there was any bad blood or bad behavior. And I'm glad to, like, know this time. Like, I would have assumed they broke up, like, a week or two before the announcement, but a month is a long time. A lot can happen in a month. A lot of, like, moving on can happen. So a month and, say, six weeks later was when she was at the Eagles game with the new guy. Like, that's when you're ready to maybe go on a date. Especially if you are looking for something or even just looking for something fun. And just because she went to a football game with someone, like, doesn't mean that that's her boyfriend.
- [45:41]
B
No. And sometimes, like, you just go on a date to, like, get yourself out of the house. Like, it's not the true love, and you're really not ready. Like, who fudgeing? Like, literally. She doesn't owe us an explanation as to her reasoning as to why she went on a date with someone. But the thing that makes me so sad about this, and I feel like this is the second time she said it, is like, she's clearly mad at Craig for not, like, speaking out on her behalf. And she said that, like, no one's sticking up for her on his side. That's the second time she said that. And I feel like the bad blood is, like, really brewing between these two. Like, what once was amicable perhaps is not.
- [46:06]
A
Yeah. I think she would, like, like him to say, like, paige never cheated on me, even though I feel like when he said his statement, he, like, again, people, real ones, like, know that he doesn't think that she cheated on him. Now, maybe some people, like, need it to be explained. Explained to them again. But, like, when he put out his statement, like, it all seemed amicable and they broke up for the exact reasons why people thought they might not work out, which is that, like, they don't work out.
- [46:28]
B
But also, Craig hasn't spoken about it yet. Like, he hasn't done an interview. And I'm sure he will. I'm sure I'll go on, like, watch Happens Live or something. So he hasn't had. I mean, he could have. Yes, for sure, like, made an Instagram story telling people to, like, off, but he hasn't spoken his truth yet.
- [46:41]
A
I think that, like, that one Instagram story.
- [46:43]
B
Yes, yes, yes.
- [46:44]
A
Yeah, but, like, if they broke up because of cheating, like, that would have been when he would have, like, been mad. And he wasn't mad.
- [46:50]
B
No, he wasn't mad. But he did, like, want everyone to know that, like, he got broken up with. That was, like, his overall. That was a takeaway from that video. Was that, like, yeah, I'm sad because I got broken up with.
- [46:58]
A
Yes, but if there was cheating, like, he would have said that.
- [47:02]
B
No, of course. By the way. Because there was no cheating.
- [47:04]
A
Right? Of course. Because there was no cheating. So I feel like he maybe thinks, like. Like, he. He didn't need to clear anything up because he shared his side of it on the stoop that day.
- [47:15]
B
And I sympathize with. With Paige. I imagine it's so frustrating. Like, Bravo fandom is, like, really crazy, and they just, like, make stuff up. So. And with something as, like, damaging to your character, like, cheating is a pretty heinous allegation. So I want her to know, like, I understand why you had to speak out, but just know you didn't have to. We didn't. We didn't think that. We never thought that about you.
- [47:33]
A
No, we never, ever thought that.
- [47:36]
B
Disgraceful.
- [47:37]
A
So, yeah, things seem to be getting a little more contentious between the two of them. But you know what? Those are breakups. Like, I feel like everyone has these ideas, and especially when the person might start dating someone next, like, that's when you really realize that it's over. And it's also really nice. I feel like the last two breakups that we were talking about between, like, influencers, public figures was like, Brianna, chicken fry on a chicken fry, and Rachel and Matt. And, like, in both scenarios, they were both saying how they just wish they had time to process the breakup privately. And, like, that would have made things easier on them, despite being heartbroken. And it's like this is that like they had a month.
- [48:09]
B
Yeah.
- [48:10]
A
And that's all. I mean, a month would have been amazing for either of those people. They were asking for, like a day. A day, max.
- [48:15]
B
A week, A flight.
- [48:17]
A
So it is really nice that, like, the hardest part of their breakup, which was, like, the early days that they were able to just go through it privately and deal with it on their own.
- [48:27]
B
Yes. Also, I think, interesting that you bring those two up and I like what Paige had said because even though, like, this has been playing out in the public eye for the most part, like, this, what happened between them is kept private, as it should be. Like, this is a three year relationship that was a person you thought you were going to marry. Like, some things can and should be kept private. And I feel like when we compare it to, like, other breakups where people, like, sit down on a podcast and tell everything that's ever happened in their relationship, especially with, like, Brianna Chicken Fries, like, we needed to know, you know, and she was not wrong for that. But I really respect what she had said and, like, the choice to, like, keep the majority of your relationship private. Just because you break up with someone doesn't mean that now everything that happened in your relationship is fodder for a podcast. Like, you can still respect someone.
- [49:04]
A
Yeah.
- [49:04]
B
Just and, like, and be mad at them. Be right. Be mad that it didn't work out. Be mad that they're not standing up for you. But, like, still respect the integrity of the relationship by keeping the majority of it private. Yeah. And she's right for that. Very classy. Agreed not to say that anybody who does the opposite is wrong because I live for it. Especially when the guy has truly wronged you. Like, Brianna Chicken Fry owed Zach Brian $0. Like zero anything, zero grace, zero privacy, zero respect. He was an actual abuser.
- [49:32]
A
Yeah.
- [49:32]
B
You don't get the, the courtesy of keeping the, the happenings of the relationship private when you're that big of a fucking animal.
- [49:39]
A
She's not who we were talking about.
- [49:41]
B
No, we're not. I'm not talking about anyone specifically, but, like, I always, like, relation, you know, because you know what? I was thinking about that. I'm so glad I just brought this up. I feel like a lot of people wanted to know what went down with Jason Tardick and Kaitlyn Bristowe, and they, like, never told us. And I actually really respect that. Like, even though so many people would want to know, you know, she has a podcast. It's good for views. It's good for business. Like, I kind of really respect that neither one of them. There was, like, a couple of shady, like, Instagram likes or whatever, but none of them sat down and, like, did a tell all. Neither of them. And I really respect that. Like, yeah, even though it didn't work out, like, this was a person you shared a bed with, like, you were gonna share a life with. Like, it's okay to, like, keep things private barring, you know, some crazy abuse that everybody needs to know about.
- [50:23]
A
Yeah, I totally agree. I don't know why there's this expectation or people feel like they need to share, but, like, yeah, I don't need to know every fight and every, like, out of pocket thing that was, you know, like, people, pebbles fight.
- [50:36]
B
Like, that was your love.
- [50:37]
A
We expect that you would fight.
- [50:39]
B
Yeah, of course. Oh, my God. You don't want to see what goes down in my house.
- [50:43]
A
Are you ready for our next story?
- [50:45]
B
Yes.
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A
Lily Collins is a new mama. Lily Collins shared her first photo. Mama Mama. She shared her first photo with her daughter Tub after secretly welcoming the newborn via Tuv. T O V O E. I thought.
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B
You were saying Tub like bathtub. And honestly, like, I'm stealing it. That's my name.
- [51:04]
A
Tub. She welcomed the newborn via surrogate last month. So she had posted the other day that they had welcomed a baby via surrogate, and now she just posted a cute photo of her pushing a stroller with baby Tuv.
- [51:15]
B
And this is just a great reminder that she is married to Charlie McDowell, who has no relation to Andy McDowell and Margaret Quaily, but does on Mother's Day post a picture of Andy McDowell as a joke to confuse the Internet. And I fell victim to his prank just last year.
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A
Do you think now on Grandmother's Day, Lily Collins will post a happy Grandmother's Day to Tuv's grandma?
- [51:37]
B
Well, Lily doesn't get involved in the prank. It's exclusively a Charlie McDowell thing. And so, no, I don't. And also, you can't forget, like, actually, Tuv's grandfather, he's a nepo grandkid.
- [51:49]
A
So let me tell you, I would never forget that Tuv's grandfather is Phil Collins. Just like I'll never. When Gracie Abrams, like, God willing, has a child one day, I'll never forget that that child's grandpa is J.J. abrams.
- [51:58]
B
Yeah. Lily Collins is kind of the Gracie Abrams of the acting industry. Literally, they are, like, they look exactly alike, and their dads are both of like, equal caliber.
- [52:10]
A
And like, some people, I forget that they, like, I'm always reminded. Like, even I saw a story about Meryl Streep's gilded age daughter, and I'm like, oh, right, that's Meryl Streep's daughter.
- [52:20]
B
Yeah.
- [52:20]
A
Like some people, I'm always just like, oh, right, Lily and Gracie, always.
- [52:24]
B
You're still at the restaurant.
- [52:25]
A
Always JJ and Phil.
- [52:27]
B
It will always be JJ and Phil. 1000%.
- [52:30]
A
What that is. What is that?
- [52:32]
B
I think some people can eclipse, like, and I think that actually Andy McDowell was just talking about this, how she's, like, officially a Nepo mom because Margaret's in, like, an Oscar nominated film. And I don't think Andy's, like, career ever got to that level. And how proud she is to, like, sort of be the recipient of, like, the benefits for Margaret's fame now is very honest and very funny. So some people just, like, truly eclipse it, right? They just get so famous that you can't even remember, honestly. I also think it's sometimes, like, their faces. Like, you just can't not see the parent.
- [53:01]
A
I don't know what it is because even Margaret, yeah, she's eclipsed. But I'll always remember. I don't need to be reminded. Like, I'm always reminded, like, that's Andy's daughter. So maybe some of them are just, like, more fun facts than others. Like, maybe at my core, like, I don't think about Meryl Streep that much, you know?
- [53:15]
B
You don't.
- [53:16]
A
And maybe I think about J.J. abrams more. Like, no, I never saw.
- [53:21]
B
No, but you think about Gracie more, I guess.
- [53:24]
A
I guess.
- [53:24]
B
Nothing about Sheep's Daughter.
- [53:26]
A
It's a compliment then, if it's a.
- [53:28]
B
It's a sign of relevance in my mind. Yes.
- [53:33]
A
So anyways, this is really sweet for the whole Nepo family.
- [53:36]
B
What was the story, Tuv? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though that show, like, is a. What's wrong with the world? I happen to really like her.
- [53:46]
A
Tough. Jane McDowell Pargie.
- [53:48]
B
I. You know, obviously, she is Phil Collins's daughter. I've never seen a photo of them.
- [53:55]
A
Google it. I'm sure there is one.
- [53:57]
B
Like, at her bat mitzvah or something. You know, she's 16.
- [54:01]
A
What does Phil Collins even look like?
- [54:03]
B
Bald. Oh, wait, I just googled him. Yeah, he's bald.
- [54:07]
A
Classic Phil Collins.
- [54:10]
B
He's also, like, such an acclaimed musician. Like, obviously I think of and I see a True Colors, but then also Lion King. Like, really just Tarzan, right? Yeah, he's bald.
- [54:26]
A
Classic My Heart. That's number one.
- [54:30]
B
You can tell he was handsome back in the day. I mean, she's, by the way, plenty of photos together.
- [54:35]
A
Not really so many recent ones.
- [54:37]
B
No, not recent. Not recent.
- [54:39]
A
Not since Emily in Paris.
- [54:41]
B
Oh, yeah, and she famously did that. You know how every year we talk about that Paris ball?
- [54:45]
A
Yeah, yeah, she did that.
- [54:47]
B
She was one of the Americans that.
- [54:50]
A
Well, are you ready for our fifth and final story?
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B
If it's our fifth and final story that's brought to you by Peloton, it is. So Peloton has what you need to keep you on track of your goals, no matter what season of life that you're in. Actually, this week I've decided, like, I'm recommitting myself to some sort of wellness slash fitness routine. Obviously I'm not expecting to like transform my body, but just trying to like, feel good. And Peloton is such a great resource for that. So they have a variety of workouts for wherever you are in your fitness journey. So the app is amazing. Cannot recommend it enough. Even if you don't have their equipment, which I don't, they have great classes for arms. They have floor classes. They have classes that require no equipment. They have great, like guided walks. It's really fabulous. Their instructors are amazing. They have such great personalities. I find that like, when the person I'm learning from, like, actually is making me laugh or saying something interesting, it makes the whole thing go by so much faster. They have great music. That's what Peloton has over like everyone else. Their catalog of music is insane. And it's available wherever you need it. So with their all access membership and the app, you can work out wherever you need it. So whether you're on the train, the gym, or at your kids game, you can squeeze it in wherever you need it. If whether you need 10, 20 or 45 minutes of time to sweat or get grounded, they provide you with flexibility. That's what, by the way, I love that, like, I can't these days do anything more than 30 minutes. And they have classes like starting at 10 minutes, like 10:20 or if you want to go all the way up. It's also great. Jackie, I know you're training for the 5k now.
- [56:09]
A
I love peloton running.
- [56:11]
B
Yeah, Peloton run and the run slash walk is like a really good way to like get your time per mile down. It's fabulous and it's just great music. So find your push, find your power with peloton@1peloton.com that's O N E peloton.com Today's episode is also brought to you by Dreamland Baby. Is that correct, Jackie?
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A
Yes, it is. I'm so excited to tell you about our Dreamland Baby code because we are a Dreamland Baby house. They have the best, best sleep sacks, sleep swaddles, pajamas. They use the best materials and of course their patented weighted sleep sack is what they are known for. It does for a baby what a weighted blanket would do for you, which is reducing anxiety, promoting calm, deeper sleep, better sleep, which translates to deeper, better sleep for you. Because when baby's sleeping through the night, that means you are too. So do not sleep on Dreamland Baby. It is the best sleep sack. It can be used so many different ways. The zippers go both ways. So those middle of the night changes are much easier. You could do both arms in, one arm out, both arms out. Every baby is different and likes a different way of sleeping in a sleep sucker or swaddle. So you can really customize it to your bed because swaddles are more personal than comedy, more personal than food. So go to dreamlandbabyco.com and enter our code TOAST at checkout to receive 20% off site wide and free shipping. This offer is for new and existing customers. That is such a Great offer of 20 off site wide at Dreamland Baby.
- [57:33]
B
That's beautiful. Jackie. I perhaps as a gift to Josh Peck for his generosity of spirit during this time, maybe I'll get him a nice baby gift from Dreamland Baby.
- [57:43]
A
That is beautiful. They have the best stuff, blankets, jamas, very cozy.
- [57:47]
B
Love that. Well, thank you Dreamland Baby for being a partner of today's show.
- [57:50]
A
For being, for being a dream Land baby.
- [57:52]
B
Literally for being a dream Kardashian.
- [57:55]
A
Our fifth and final story. Casey Musgraves is speaking out after her viral reaction to losing best country album Grammy to Beyonce has gone viral. So there's been a little like, you know, post Grammys drama, drama reaction, videos, whatever. Now Casey Musgraves went viral for looking like she was upset about losing the Grammy to Beyonce. So I saw this headline before I saw the video. So I was like, oh, excited to see the stank face. Literally no such face in sight.
- [58:24]
B
Well, I think she looked a little disappointed. And then also there's this TMZ video of her like leaving the affair in her slippers. They're like, what do you think about losing the award to Beyonce? And she just looks at the camera and gives like a big thumbs up. So people were really quick to assume this was a Snub at Beyonce. Like, I think it wouldn't have had such a viral moment if she lost, like, Lainey Wilson or whatever. But I think a lot of people are, like, defensive of Beyonce, to be honest. Like, I think she looked upset because she lost a Grammy. Like, everyone wants to win a Grammy. And I think it was like, Kelsey Ballerini, actually, who said this, like, at last year's cma. Is she. She got caught on camera losing with a stank face, and she released a statement. She was like, yeah, I wanted to win. Like, yeah, she actually said, and I'm holding space for two things. Like, I'm really happy for the person who won, but, like, I also wanted to win. Like, why can't I think of myself for a second? And it's like, yeah, I would be upset, too. I wanted to win. Right?
- [59:12]
A
I also. When I look at Casey's face, like, if she really wanted to, if this was really snubbed towards Beyonce, like, it would be a different face. To me, it looks like someone who's, like, trying to smile, even though they might not be, like, super happy, but that's not a snub. Like, she's, like, literally lightly smiling. I also think, like, she just has, like, one of those faces sometimes that, like, she does when she. When she's not. Sometimes I have that face, too. My husband's always like, what's wrong? I'm like, what do you mean? I'm so happy.
- [59:34]
B
Yeah, Right. She definitely is one of those faces. But, like, let's just say, like, it is what. What it appears to be. Like, I think that we need to normalize, like, wanting to win things. I know we're supposed to say, it's an honor to be nominated. I'm so happy for whoever won. But everybody's showing up there, like, glitz and glammed out because they want win, and they want to be, like, acknowledged by their peers. I don't think it's a big deal to be upset. It's not a reflection that she didn't think Beyonce should win, so she thought she should win. Everybody thinks their shit's the best, right?
- [60:00]
A
So Casey told E. News in a statement about this. She said her rep said it's a sensationalistic false narrative meant to pit two talented female artists against each other. There was simply no scowl or expression made. That's where I am. I'm like, what? I literally don't see anything.
- [60:16]
B
I saw it. I saw it live, and then I saw it afterwards, and I was like, yeah, okay, maybe that's that. But okay, so she's what? Spoiler alert. Human. She's just know if I get nominated for a Grammy and I don't win, like, I'm seriously crying and cursing out everyone and flipping the table.
- [60:29]
A
I'm just want to say in the words of Casey Musgrave, she looks happy and sad at the same time.
- [60:34]
B
Exactly.
- [60:35]
A
And she tried to tell you that that's a real feeling. And some of you just can't understand that.
- [60:39]
B
We're listening. She tried to tell you on her Grammy award winning album for album of the year.
- [60:43]
A
Yeah. And I just saw she herself, Casey has six Grammys. Like, she's gonna be okay, you know.
- [60:50]
B
Oh, she's totally fine. She has one album of the year for architect.
- [60:54]
A
Architect was her eighth.
- [60:55]
B
She's completely fine. A decorated artist.
- [60:59]
A
She posted the notepad for the architect, like when she started songwriting, like the first day. And you see some of, like, the.
- [61:06]
B
Lyrics a bit on it at auction.
- [61:07]
A
I literally do. First of all, the fact that it's a notepad Amazon basic sheet. And you see at the top, it's like KM Shane McInally. And you see the idea of the song coming together, but also it's totally different than what the lyrics actually are. And there's like an apple in the picture. Just literally, like, I know she posted that for me and I just want to say, Casey, it means the world.
- [61:26]
B
She needs to auction it off for charity, like for, you know, victims of the fires or North Carolina. And you will contribute.
- [61:33]
A
I will bid 100%.
- [61:35]
B
One of my biggest regrets is, remember when I went to that Joan Rivers tribute and they were auctioning off for God's love, we deliver the like, original note cards of her jokes. Yeah, I should have bought one. But, like, $5,000 was really steep for an index card.
- [61:50]
A
Yeah, I agree. But when it's for charity, like, you would. Yeah, I would make a big donation.
- [61:57]
B
To charity, but she had 70, 000 of them. So if they were auctioning off like a couple, like, they could.
- [62:02]
C
And.
- [62:02]
B
But oh, and by the way, somebody bought the first one. The second one, they had to fake that. One of the employees said, like, yeah, because the auction was going poorly. And then the third they decided to give away to somebody in the audience because it was going so poorly. Do 2500 double the amount of people, you would have sold six of them instead of one.
- [62:18]
A
Yeah, just.
- [62:20]
B
I'm still thinking about that auction. I'm so mad.
- [62:22]
A
I'm sorry. Well, maybe that the next auction, like, you won't hesitate. Maybe that's the lesson.
- [62:27]
B
Yeah, I won't. I'll loosen the purse strings a little bit. I'm sorry. $5,000 for an index card. Like, I draw the line. I'm actually an extremely, like, financially prudent person.
- [62:34]
A
Yeah, you are. Do people know that about you?
- [62:37]
B
No, because, like, it's all relative. Right? Like, you look at my life, like, it looks very glamorous and it is. Like, I have, you know, beautiful things, but it's. I'm actually. I don't like to use the word frugal because I'm not frugal by any stretch of the imagination. But I think also compared to you, I'm frugal.
- [62:52]
A
We have, like, different philosophies, but what's a thesaurus for frugal?
- [62:56]
B
No, I think the word, like, financially prudent is a good. I'm just like a little conservative.
- [63:01]
A
Careful. Meticulous. Prudent is here. Stingy.
- [63:08]
B
I am not stingy. Bitch.
- [63:10]
A
This is thesaurus.com. thrifty.
- [63:15]
B
I don't know, I just feel like if you own a Birkin, you can't, like, call yourself financially prudent. Do you know what I mean?
- [63:21]
A
Like an investment.
- [63:22]
B
Even though it's an investment, it's an investment over time. Yeah.
- [63:26]
A
Just.
- [63:27]
B
Is that the end of the show?
- [63:28]
A
Well, that's the end of this part for now. Yeah. This is Tata.
- [63:32]
B
Now. Let me just give a quick intro to the second half of the show. We're just getting started. Brian Kelly, founder of the Points Guy, he wrote a book that comes out today. It's called how to Win at Travel. And we just did the. Actually a lot about parenting and like, what's. Jackie, what's your philosophy on, like, kids crying on planes and like, other people who are, like, rolling their eyes at it? Like, because, like, were you an adult before you had kids who would, like, roll your eyes at, like, a kid crying on the plane and now you, like, understand.
- [63:58]
A
I would put my headphones in and realize that person's having a harder time than me. And I have the luxury of putting in noise canceling headphones. Or you can even get free headphones from the flight attendant. Like, I feel more bad for the parents than the people who are around it. Like, put your headphones on and. And watch your TV show. Like, it's not so hard.
- [64:14]
B
Yeah, no. And Brian talked a lot about it. He was like, that baby has every right to be on the plane as much as you do.
- [64:18]
A
Like, right. We.
- [64:19]
B
We both paid for the ticket. It was actually really insightful conversation. About all elements, like how to save.
- [64:23]
A
Money on travel, even if it's a lap infant. Did he say, like the baby's just kind of reloading?
- [64:28]
B
Jackie, he said aviation is public transportation. We all have like equal rights to be on this plane. You're not more special because you're like a childless parent, I mean a childless person than I am. Like, we're both equally right to be here. And he's like the worst behavior I've seen on planes is from adults, not babies.
- [64:44]
A
Yeah, I would just say put your headphones on like the other person harder time than you.
- [64:51]
B
Oh, yeah. Like the right thing to do is like a help and if you can't be nice, like, just shut up. Yeah, so we talk about that. It's a fabulous interview video and audio so you don't have to go anywhere. If you're listening, just keep listening and we will see you tomorrow for hump day.
- [65:05]
A
Hump day. Love ya.
- [65:09]
B
We could try.
- [65:09]
A
Let's just be like, yeah, we're not even trying so hard. Love. Yes.
- [65:12]
B
No, like we don't even want it.
- [65:13]
A
Like, I would hate if we got it because then all the fun would be over. Love you so much. Bye.
- [65:18]
B
Welcome back to the Toast. It's kind of full circle for me to be sitting here with obviously one of my favorite people in the world, of course, like one of my best friends for life, but also somebody who I forget like is deeply successful, has a lot going on. He is a father of two, a daddy to many. It is Brianna, Marlene, Christine Wakeely, Gorga, Kelly Vargas. It is Brian Kelly. Literally. You guys know him. He's a fan favorite here at the Toast. He is a frequent guest. He is the creator of the points guy and today he is here as author. I like how you wore like a black cashmere sweater. Very author of you.
- [65:56]
C
Very Steve Jobs.
- [65:57]
B
Yes, yes.
- [65:59]
C
Giving. And then, I mean, how does it feel to be a multi hyphenate? When you became an author, did you.
- [66:03]
B
Notice a shift in my moral superiority? For sure. And I wanted to talk to you about that because, you know, there are a lot of content creators, there are a lot of bloggers, but there aren't a lot of authors. And I feel like having like a physical thing when what we do is so digital. Having like a physical thing that you come out with feels so different. And I wanted to ask you, like, since you've now been like doing press and people are referring to you now as an author, heretofore you will be known as an author, how does that make you feel.
- [66:27]
C
It feels really cool. Like I started the Points Guy 15 years ago. I'm like, you know, beyond proud of, like, what it's become. Never was it meant to become, oh, this. So many employees, millions of people. But having a book, I actually just right before this, I went to Barnes and Noble, Union Square, the best. Where we will be doing our event. Event. Thank you for doing that. And I was walking through the store, by the way. It's popping. It is packed.
- [66:50]
B
Books are back. Brian.
- [66:51]
C
Books are back. It was so exciting. I'm like. And it makes me so excited to think that this book, which is going to be in every airport in America, Hudson News bought a bunch. And like, people will buy this hopefully for years to come. And that, to me, is so cool to be able to connect with the whole audience. That the twisted Instagram algorithm isn't naturally, you know, serving, but to have like a physical book that's around. I'm so excited about it.
- [67:17]
B
And I couldn't help but notice that your book was not only not dedicated to me, which was unique for sure. It was dedicated to Dean, which is so sweet. Dean is your son. He's literally the cutest angel on earth. But he's not your only son. And I think I speak on behalf of your newborn Cooper in when I say, what the fuck? You know, what about Cooper?
- [67:36]
C
I thought about this, but similar. Like in the Jewish faith.
- [67:39]
B
Yes.
- [67:39]
C
Where it is like very superstitious. Shugana.
- [67:42]
B
Yeah. The word is like Kaina Nihara.
- [67:46]
A
That's it.
- [67:47]
B
Yeah.
- [67:48]
C
So I didn't want it. Cause I had to finish that in October and he was born December. And I'm like, that's a really, you know.
- [67:54]
B
Yep.
- [67:54]
C
And plus, I'll just dedicate the next one to Cooper.
- [67:57]
B
It's a thing when you're as multi hyphenated as we are.
- [68:00]
C
Wait, where are you on your EGOT? Who do you think will get to EGOT first?
- [68:03]
B
1000%? Me. One thing about Brian, actually, we've done so many things together, and we're gonna talk about all the things we've done together, but we need to talk about your singing voice. And I host a show with my sister Jackie, who up until I met you, had the worst singing voice I'd ever heard in my life. She's great now compared to you. You have the worst singing voice I've ever heard in my life. You have no rhythm, you have no pitch. Like, sing me a song. Sing Taking Chances by Celine Dion.
- [68:31]
C
What do you. That's actually my worst nightmare. I Have dreams where, like, I'm on the American Idol stage and they're like, go out and win it. And I'm like, what?
- [68:44]
B
Okay. I have dreams like that too, but they end really differently. Yeah, right, right. So I think in terms of who's gonna win an EGOT first.
- [68:50]
C
No, but wait. I firmly believe though, because your voice is a muscle and you can make it better. I sometimes think, and I'm a very competitive person. If I went into, like, really deep vocal training courses, do you think I could be okay?
- [69:04]
B
No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think you are actually too far gone. And there aren't a lot of people like that. That's what makes you different. That's what makes you special.
- [69:10]
C
But I actually, I have a good podcasting from what I hear and like, voice. They're doing an audio book, which, you know, it's available wherever you get your audiobooks.
- [69:21]
B
Yes, you tell em. You tell em.
- [69:23]
C
It was like so challenging to do.
- [69:25]
B
An audiobook, but honestly, sitting in that booth, so hot.
- [69:28]
C
But you can't do it all. And I'm okay with not being a singer.
- [69:30]
B
Yeah. And you are so successful at everything you do. And I know that this book is gonna crush because it just like, is what the people need. But a funny thing about you is, like, we have so much in common. And really, from the minute that we met, we just got along swimmingly in a kind of turnt unique way. But there are some things about you, like, I genuinely can't relate to. Cause you are so successful and like, you wanna keep working. And I feel like you're always doing more. But meanwhile, like, you have. When do you think, like, you will seriously, like, chill. You're. Every time I. Every time we talk, you're like, maybe I'll slow down. And then you go and you're pitching a TV show, or maybe I'll slow down or you go and write a book.
- [70:00]
C
Well, I think it's interesting because I feel like I have slowed down a lot. When we first met, like, pre pandemic, when, you know, I was CEO of the points guy. We were on, you know, just growing that business, traveling a ton, doing charity work. I didn't. It's like I had this beautiful home in the Hamptons that I never slept in. You know, like, I was like. So I feel like in the pandemic, when I slowed down, I got my farm started horseback riding, had Dean. I do realize that I'm still. To me, it seems like a lot less. And even writing this book Now I'm in the honeymoon phase because I always promoting the book. I'm so excited about writing this book was really. I have severe add.
- [70:37]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [70:38]
C
And I wrote this. I couldn't just give this to a ghostwriter to write.
- [70:41]
B
Like, this book has me straight from your brain.
- [70:44]
C
So I gave up like the first five months of last year. Even when I was in the Maldives, I was working on my book most of the time that I was on that trip. I went to Tokyo to see Taylor Swift. What people don't know is like, I was in my hotel room at the Amman working on the book, so. But now I'm twisted because I'm excited to write another. But the next one that I wrote. This book is like, this is a burger of like, real information to save you money on travel flights. My next book, I want to take a. Like, maybe do a little more visual. This is like 300 people.
- [71:15]
B
You need a picture book for the kids kind of.
- [71:17]
C
I. Well, I. I start the book off saying, like, we're in the platinum era of travel. I actually think travel today is the best it's ever been for a lot of reasons. But I kind of would like to do almost do like a Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, like, super luxury book.
- [71:30]
B
Okay, well, that's what I wanted to ask you because something's so funny about, like, your line of work and the success that you've had is like, you know, you're afforded a luxurious lifestyle. And something funny about you is like, you what? Because it's your job, but, like, you very rarely opt to FL private. And if I was you, like, and I'm sure you get opportunities all the time that, like, it doesn't behoove you because you're always making content.
- [71:49]
C
I have six horses, and if anyone is a horse girly out there, it's expensive. It's six mortgages, plus two children, nannies. I mean, I work because I have to, Claudia.
- [71:59]
B
It's so true. Listen, we're not here because we want.
- [72:01]
C
A single dad who works two jobs.
- [72:04]
B
And your sundine is extremely well traveled.
- [72:08]
C
16 countries in two years.
- [72:10]
B
That's literally more countries than I have been to. Like, that's fucking crazy.
- [72:13]
C
And I. I love it for him. I mean, he's so charismatic. But I feel like he is the way he is because we've been traveling from the beginning. I mean, his first international trip was Belize.
- [72:22]
B
Oh, my God, I forgot that Dean was in Belize with us.
- [72:24]
C
Remember we showed up at Newark Airport and he was in his little duna.
- [72:27]
B
And you wearing your Saint Dion shirt.
- [72:29]
C
Margot, Emily. And I just remember the girls surrounding him that whole trip.
- [72:34]
B
He's so cute. Well, you talk a lot about traveling with kids in the book.
- [72:37]
C
Yes.
- [72:38]
B
Your lifestyle has changed quite a bit from like when you were just like a single guy traveling whatever you want to. Now you think about traveling in a different way. You've always, always been thoughtful about it, but now it's quite different and you're thinking of different things. And are you, are you pre boarding?
- [72:52]
C
Yes. So pre boarding. It depends. Now with the toddler who's two, I try to board that plane the last second, like as little time possible on the plane, the better. But because I travel with the nanny, I'll have them go on first sometimes or just to get things on the plane and then I'll board last with Dean. But you know, in the chapter, I learned a ton about traveling with kids when I wrote, like when I started traveling with Dean. There's so many crazy rules. Your kid can fly in your lap for free.
- [73:20]
B
That's so crazy.
- [73:21]
C
But then some people will say, but then internationally, they don't even let you put babies in car seats because little. There's so much information as a parent to digest. So I spelled it all out because it's terrible. Infants especially should not be in car seats for extended periods of time.
- [73:38]
B
Right. Like the dude literally die.
- [73:39]
C
They asphyxiate.
- [73:40]
B
Yep.
- [73:41]
C
And I love the Duna. And I'm actually going to do a reel on this soon. The Duna is amazing because it turns from car seat to stroller to car seats. But the problem with the Duna is your child can be in that Duna for hours because you're not having to take him out when you go to a restaurant.
- [73:54]
B
But he's not supposed to be in there, right?
- [73:55]
C
No. And really, I mean, some people say you're supposed to take your newborn out every 30 minutes, which most people do not do.
- [74:02]
B
Right? Right.
- [74:02]
C
But there is a rule of thumb is two hours. So, like in the book, I actually interview child safety, child passenger safety technicians. They're certified people that give their advice on what to do. But the bottom line is, as a parent, there's no cut and dry rule. What's safest?
- [74:18]
B
Yeah, you should do what you like. Well, you have to trust your gut totally.
- [74:21]
C
And you know what's best for your kid. And I think just educating people with, here are your choices, the pros and cons. There's no one.
- [74:27]
B
Right. So, like, we have so many moms who listen. What is the One piece of wisdom you would impart on someone who's about to travel with their kid for the first time.
- [74:34]
C
First thing I would tell you is, especially internationally, I know parents are nervous to travel. First of all, when kids are little, it's easy. Like 0 to 1. It is so easy. In general, even if your baby cries, you feed it, right? Feed it, change it, flip a titty out. They're not running anywhere. It's like when they become the two to three is tough because your child may want to run and you got to keep them. But what I say is the flight will always be over. That is the one constant. You'll get over it.
- [74:58]
B
Sometimes it feels like it won't, though.
- [74:59]
C
And the memories of the trip, even if your child can't remember the trip, I firmly believe children are smarter than we give them credit for. And I believe experiences like embed in them. So I say take the trip. And also, most countries are way more child friendly than the us.
- [75:14]
B
Really?
- [75:14]
C
Europe, for example, when you land, it's.
- [75:16]
B
A child friendly country.
- [75:17]
C
Well, Portugal. When you land in Portugal, if you have a small child, they'll take you to the front of the immigration line.
- [75:21]
B
Wow.
- [75:22]
C
In Europe, in Italy, you'll go. And they have family security lines that have no lines, so you don't have to wait in line.
- [75:27]
B
That's so crazy. I didn't know that.
- [75:28]
C
Yeah. In Ibiza this past summer, woman was nursing her newborn at the. The hottest restaurant in town. At 9, you know, 10pm, no one batted an eye.
- [75:36]
B
Literally going to be me. Seriously, like, titties out for the boys.
- [75:41]
C
Oh, my God. I can't. My mind is racing. So to parents, like, it's. It's like, can be like overwhelming. I get it. Only travel when you want. But I push people and so many. I like being a role model for people, to show people can be done. And yes, I have a nanny. I'm not trying to pretend like I'm a superhero as a single dad, but like, traveling with your kids can be incredible.
- [76:04]
B
Yeah. Just a lot of fun.
- [76:05]
C
I just like to be a positive narrative because I find with the whole parenting world and I get it, like, there's a lot of exhausted parents. I'm not trying to downplay that. But it's also amazing. I took Dean on safari, you know, like, it's.
- [76:17]
B
Jackie talks about that a lot. About how like modern media, whether it's like TV shows or even like influencers who keep it real, it's so overwhelmingly negative. And I think that like a lot of young girls and guys who become parents, like, find there's so much more joy in it than was explained to you. You're always told about the hard parts, but, like, the joy is kind of underrated. So I love that, like, that's what you lead with, because I think we need more of that, like, inherent in your memory.
- [76:39]
C
I have, like, Dean when we went to the Maldives, and he just. I sat in the white sand, just me and him, and just the waves are coming over us, and he's in my legs, and I'll remember that moment forever. It was, like, just so many good memories. And, yes, he's cried on flights. And, like, he'll torture her. He's like, you know, toddler's thr. The whole, like, throw a car across business class. But in the end, like, you're. You have a right to be on that plane. And I say in the book, oh.
- [77:08]
B
We need to talk about that.
- [77:10]
C
Like, your flights are public transportation.
- [77:13]
B
Yeah.
- [77:14]
C
So if you want to control the manifest, who flies on an aircraft, you got a charter, honey. So everyone. You are taking public transit. Even if you bought a business class ticket, it does not give you the right to say who. Who deserves to be on this plane and where they're sitting.
- [77:28]
B
This is big conversation on social media. Kids on planes, kids crying planes. I think when my sisters became parents, I immediately became way more sympathetic. I never would be someone who would, like, visibly roll my eyes, but I would whisper to Ben, like, get this kid out of here. Now I find myself, like, having a lot more patience, like, always, like. Like, you know, giving a sympathetic look or something, because I think that people can be really mean. And at the end of the day, like, we paid the same price for this ticket. Like, eat my ass.
- [77:51]
C
Yeah. You know, I think. And as travelers get noise canceling headphones, there's going to be crying babies. By the way, I've traveled a lot. I have been way more inconvenienced by drunk idiots on planes, causing issues. Adults cause more issues than babies.
- [78:05]
B
So true.
- [78:05]
C
I think just have compassion. Like, help a pregnant woman who has bags. I see. Help them put things in the overhead bin. And, like. And don't just assume, like, have good intent. Don't assume every baby's crying because their parents are doing nothing. Right. I'm so tired of that narrative. As a parent, you can have the best kid who does crazy things and is inconsolable, has nothing to do with your parenting.
- [78:26]
B
So true.
- [78:26]
C
Stop thinking so negative and maybe help the people out. It takes a village smiling at a parent. Who's clearly overwhelmed in a flight that helps you more than it helps them just because smiling at them, hey, do you need a hand? I got you. A simple thing like that to a parent can help bring their stress level down, which then in part helps. So you help yourself by being nice. That's across the board in travel.
- [78:47]
B
The point of, like, when she. Passengers, adult passengers being more inconveniencing than babies is so true. Some of the worst people I've ever met. Met have been on airplanes. Totally, like insane human beings. And that's what I love about you. Like, you're really capable of such depth. Like, when you're talking about parenthood and even the way you talk about travel, like, I know it means a lot to you when you meet people because when you go to, like, an airport lounge, it's like, you know, me going to a kosher restaurant. It's like, where your people are at and you, like, are a star. And I've been lucky enough to experience it where, like, people come up to you and it's not. They don't just say, like, hey, I love your work. They say, like, oh, my God, I took this trip with my dad before he died. Like, it's so meaningful. And I know that you take it so seriously. So you're capable of such depth. But I also have gotten to know you on a really deep level. And like, people, the real me, they don't even know. They don't even know. Brianna, Marlene, Christine, Wakelee, Kelly. Like, you are one of the most fun people I've ever met in my life. And I feel like that's because you are so well traveled. Like, you've seen such things. And to travel with you, I have to tell you, it's such a privilege. Like, I. The way I used to vacation, like, even just with Ben. And now when I. When me and Ben go do something, I travel differently. Like, I'm so much more open to things. Like, you really are so much fun. And I think, I think it is connected to the things you've seen, you know?
- [79:56]
C
Yeah. I think as we all travel more and you get the bigger picture, I think it does help us all, like.
- [80:01]
B
Become better people 1000%. And the best part about you is, like, you are who you are. But we have a lot of similarities. Like, we're both obsessed with reality TV and celebrity culture. Abby Lee Miller is both of our idols.
- [80:13]
C
Ldc that we met, we met because of Abby Lee. Abby Miller connected us. Qnected us.
- [80:18]
B
Yeah. In a spiritual sense.
- [80:19]
C
Yeah. She didn't actually, I think, like, one of our first DMs was about commenting.
- [80:23]
B
Regarding Abby Lee Miller, ALDC seat regarding the matter of Abby Lee.
- [80:27]
C
So I may not be a good dancer. I mean, I may not be a good singer, but I'm a great dancer.
- [80:30]
B
You are a great dancer. And where'd you learn that? At the Abby Lee Dance Company.
- [80:34]
C
I learned it with you in Puerto Vallarta.
- [80:36]
B
1,000% or no, Puerto Vallarta Punta. That was fun. No, We've had so many fun trips and, like, so many people. Whoever meet you, any people who meet you, love you. But what's so interesting is, like, one of my favorite things. And hopefully everyone one day gets a chance to go through your Instagram dms. Because the people that TMU just asking for, like, random travel tips.
- [80:54]
C
I respond to tons of dms.
- [80:56]
B
No, but I'm talking about, like, celebrities. Like, celebrities are obsessed with points.
- [81:00]
C
Celebrity we met on the way to Punta Media, that I was like, oh, I don't even remember if we had a little bit of a boozy flight.
- [81:06]
B
Oh, yeah, we had a boozy flight to Houston.
- [81:09]
C
Asian male actor.
- [81:12]
B
Yeah. Was he on the flight to Houston or the flight to Mexico?
- [81:14]
C
I don't know.
- [81:14]
B
He was like, we had margaritas in the middle, and I got in trouble for vaping in the United Airlines in the lounge.
- [81:19]
C
Lounge.
- [81:20]
B
They were like, seriously? So they were like, are you vaping? I'm like, yeah. Why the heck did I acted like I was doing meth? Like, calm, Claudia, you're vaping.
- [81:26]
C
You were so brazen.
- [81:28]
B
I know.
- [81:29]
C
Going to bars with you, you wouldn't even hide it. You'd puff it into the air.
- [81:32]
A
It has to hide.
- [81:33]
B
It's electric.
- [81:34]
C
And then you would. It's electric. You would act aggrieved. You've gotten kicked out of facilities.
- [81:38]
B
I've gotten kicked out of facilities.
- [81:39]
C
Sneak back, snuck back in me and that vape.
- [81:42]
B
Although those days are behind me. I'm about to enter my motherhood phase. That girl is. That girl lives inside me forever. And I know she will return.
- [81:49]
C
I mean that.
- [81:50]
B
Yeah, no, we've lived. And so the funny part is, like, how many people are so invested in points and travel and the hacks that you give and the celebr reality stars that enter your DMs and who you end up striking up friendships with because you are this, like, really fun, fabulous guy is probably one of my favorite parts about you. Now tell me about the Silva sisters, Darcy and Stacey. If you guys don't know, by the way, what TLC show. Did they originally start 90 Day Fiance?
- [82:12]
C
So Darcy was on 90 Day Fiance. She just opened her heart looking for love. So I got deep into 90 day fiance probably like circa 2018. And that was when I was, you know, we were doing big TPG awards. And they would always say, what, like, celebrity should we invite to the awards? And like, frankly, like most a list celebrities are not coming to, like a travel organization.
- [82:33]
B
They need to be paid, like, handsomely.
- [82:35]
C
We didn't have a budget, but we.
- [82:36]
B
Were like, let's invite.
- [82:37]
C
And so then, I mean, Darcy Silva is an iconic queen. And I would just DM them and be like, hey, girl, hey. And she's like, oh, my God. And I could just tell, like, she needs love.
- [82:48]
B
Yeah.
- [82:48]
C
And she's so sweet. She like DMed me. So she came to the first TPG awards.
- [82:52]
B
Very nice. Nice.
- [82:53]
C
And then she had a couple drinks and she came into my green room and like, at one point she's like, I just need a guy like you and just starts like crying on my lap. There's like a photo of her because she's known for crying on the show because she's just looking for real love.
- [83:04]
B
Yeah. Aren't we?
- [83:05]
C
So, like, that was definitely like, I've made it moment when Darcy Silva, she smells really good.
- [83:11]
B
Who was the most famous person who you found out, like, reads the website or knows, like, follows your work and uses your tips? Because I always feel like rich people didn't like, do stuff like that, but they love seeing money.
- [83:20]
C
Rick Martin is one.
- [83:24]
B
That's huge.
- [83:25]
C
Yeah, I've met him several times. I mean, Martha Stewart, everyone thinks she travels private. Martha's a commercial queen and I help her team out quite a bit. I help her get the best flights and make sure she's taken care of.
- [83:36]
B
What matters to Martha, she's an aisle, a window. What does she prefer?
- [83:39]
C
She's a window girly. She's actually very, like, low maintenance. Like, I've flown. We went to Greenland and we only flew economy. She was not a diva. Like, she's very well traveled. She's very inquisitive. She's very engaged. Like when we were touring little towns in Greenland together, she would go talk to local people. Yeah. She's very, very inquisitive. I mean, she means it when she says, like, learn something new every day or it's like. Or something.
- [84:04]
B
Oh, yeah, that's her thing.
- [84:05]
C
Keep learning or die. Yeah.
- [84:07]
B
She says, like, every day you should, like, acquire.
- [84:09]
C
She's a really fun person to travel with. Yeah.
- [84:12]
B
Marcus what about that podcaster, Claudia Ajay? What'd she like to travel with?
- [84:16]
C
Well, when we eat rotten fish on the airline and go viral in Israel.
- [84:21]
B
Brian and I were on Israeli news. Like, literally went so viral. Spiral. We did, like, a taste test of salmon. They were serving salmon in ll first class.
- [84:27]
C
It was not good for any aviation girlies out there.
- [84:30]
B
It was a big deal.
- [84:31]
C
7. LL had a 747. It was not the most.
- [84:34]
B
It was old.
- [84:35]
C
Yeah. But it. Iconic. Queen of the skies.
- [84:37]
B
It was retiring queens in the sky, literally.
- [84:40]
C
And. But they served our food, and it was rancid.
- [84:43]
B
It was salmon. And we shouldn't have ordered a vlog episode out. Yeah, we did. We were filming the entire time and.
- [84:47]
C
Said, I would pay you, like, 500. And I never paid you to listen.
- [84:50]
B
The amount of things you paid for. We're square. We are so even. Like, don't even. Don't go down that road, because I'll end up owing you money.
- [84:57]
C
So back to the Silver sisters. So Darcy is a queen. We love her. And then I think the next year, she brought Stacy, of course. And now Darcy and Stacy have their spin off. And I think they're just. I think they finally found men and.
- [85:08]
B
They went to Turkey.
- [85:09]
C
Oh, they've had a lot of work done.
- [85:11]
B
That's putting it mildly.
- [85:13]
C
Definite transformations. They get so much hate on their Instagram. But they are nice girls, by the way.
- [85:17]
B
That was what was really shocking because I wasn't a TLC girly, and you put me onto that show along with. With Locked Up Abroad, which we need to talk about briefly. But I started watching their show.
- [85:25]
C
Love After Lockup's a new one. Have you watched it?
- [85:27]
A
No.
- [85:27]
B
I watched Love After Lockup better than Locked Up Abroad.
- [85:32]
C
Different Love After Lockups got a lot of unique characters, and we love, like, a unique.
- [85:37]
B
We do.
- [85:38]
C
It's about people who date people in.
- [85:39]
B
Prison, and it's during or after prison.
- [85:42]
C
So they. They really. They date. The show starts where they're about to get out of prison.
- [85:46]
A
Got it.
- [85:46]
B
Okay.
- [85:46]
C
And the intricacies of our dynamic halfway houses.
- [85:49]
B
Right. Conjure visits.
- [85:51]
C
Yeah. Will. Will the. Will, the prisoner who comes out, will they revert back to their old ways? Which they do 11 out of 10 times. Yeah.
- [85:58]
B
Well, Brian and I spent, like, a whole weekend literally watching every episode ever made of the show called Locked Up Abroad. I couldn't even tell you what channel it was on. It was seriously giving lifetime dramatization. And it was true stories, but, like, it was, you know, recreated in this very dramatic version of people who had been locked up for committing crimes in different countries. And like, how the prison systems in all these different countries are so wackadoodle. Like, they're so. Not that the American one is so great, but like, it's so crazy. Mostly for, like, drug mules and like.
- [86:22]
C
Trying to break that show are about, like, mules who, you know, hit a hard time in life and then some shady person comes in who's a drug, takes advantage, whatever. Yeah, but the stories are wild.
- [86:32]
B
Some of the people run into, like, any law enforcement issues in another country, like, almost gotten arrested or anything?
- [86:37]
C
No, I've gotten shot at twice.
- [86:38]
B
Yes, you have. In Brazil.
- [86:40]
C
That's an over dramatization. You've been near a shooting adjacent to really terrible shootings. I mean, someone died at the one in Belize on the other side of the street as me, you guys.
- [86:50]
B
I wasn't there.
- [86:51]
C
You guys were in Belize, but you were at the hotel that night? We were just walking through. That was really. We actually had to hide in a store behind a clothing rack.
- [86:58]
B
She's an American girl. It was really sad. The girl. It was like.
- [87:01]
C
And I was like, I mean, I saw the gun, I saw the guy. And then in Brazil, I was there for Carnival and I was filming a vlog and I had a security guard with me. Cause we had camera equipment on the streets of Rio. We were having so much fun. And they literally, the footage is somewhere. It's like, brian, what do you think of Rio Carnival? I'm like, it's amazing. And I was dressed as a pharaoh and just pop, pop, pop. And everyone there was like 10 of us. We had to scream. Everyone was running across the city. It was really scary. And the security guard that I had, he was actually like an ex marine. And he goes, run, run. And he's got his arm around me and he's like. He's like, we keep hearing the shots. It means you're not dead. Go.
- [87:35]
B
I'm like, that's good advice.
- [87:36]
C
Honestly.
- [87:37]
B
Yeah. If you can hear, you can run.
- [87:39]
C
I remember thinking that, like, in that moment, and I actually had a drink with me. We were drinking on the street. And I, like, am so against littering. I remember I was.
- [87:47]
B
Life or death situation. Just throw the drink on the floor. Throw the drink on the floor.
- [87:51]
C
You know, I'm a good.
- [87:52]
B
You are such a good kid. And the book is so good. And the book comes. So this episode is being released the same day as your book, which is so fabulous. The book is out now and in. In three words, like, tell Me how it feels to be like, a published author.
- [88:06]
C
Mm. Cute and smart.
- [88:13]
B
I love that. But that's two words.
- [88:16]
C
Cute, smart. Darcy.
- [88:19]
B
I think that that should be the title.
- [88:21]
C
Today's Episode, and it's Darcy with an E for whoever titles it.
- [88:25]
B
It's true. And, Brian, where can people pick up the book?
- [88:28]
C
Anywhere you get books if you're in your next Hudson News in the airport.
- [88:31]
B
Sorry, wait. We need to. We. We just really quickly didn't even talk about the people who gave blurbs for the back of your book. Like, it's crazy because you're my friend and, like, we get twisted together, and it's like, that's how I know you. But I forget that you are friends with Whoopi Goldberg, Kelly Ripa, Martha Stewart. These are all people. Can you tell me? Because I had written a book. I asked you to write a blurb. Thanks for asking me to write one. Bitch. And the amount of, like, you feel awkward asking people, right? Like, how do you go about asking these types of people to give a blurb for your book?
- [88:56]
C
So Whoopi I interviewed in the book, by the way, if you have a fear of flying, that's one of the top questions I get asked. I dive deep into the science behind fear flying. I interviewed Lays, my friend, frequent flyers who was in a plane crash. She was in a plane crash.
- [89:10]
B
And was it Emirates?
- [89:12]
C
No, it was actually. Her dad became a pilot. He was a famous doctor. He was like, oh, and the first flight. Flight. Her mom brought too much luggage on and they crashed into a swamp. Luckily, they all survived. God, she had severe fear of flying. Whoopi Goldberg saw a plane crash in the 70s. She was actually fine for several years, and one day had a crazy nightmare. And then. So anyway, so I interviewed Whoopi for the book. She's actually a fan of tpg, her and her manager. I mean, I've been helping them travel for years. I've been on the View. So I interviewed her, and she was so gracious with her time. So then afterwards, I. I just asked her for the blurb and they were happy to do it.
- [89:45]
B
Right, Right. She was already involved.
- [89:46]
C
Martha. I mean, I've helped Martha travel around the world. I mean, it's easy to ask for a blurb when you've done a lot of favors.
- [89:51]
B
You.
- [89:51]
C
You've been on Kelly ripa's show, like, 20 times now.
- [89:54]
B
Yeah.
- [89:54]
C
And hers was really funny because she, like, read the blurb from hers.
- [89:58]
B
Listen to the travel expert Brian Kelly. He's clearly got the most legroom.
- [90:03]
C
Oh, Kelly, does that make sense? I'm like, oh, it's perfect.
- [90:05]
B
It's perfect. Yeah, it's literally perfect. The book is so good. You. You have a website where you can.
- [90:10]
C
Buy all of how to win a travel dot com.
- [90:11]
B
How to win a travel.com.
- [90:13]
C
Amazon.
- [90:13]
B
You can. He's national audiobook. He's national. Don't worry about it. You're reading the audiobook.
- [90:17]
C
I read the audiobook. Eleven and a half hours.
- [90:19]
B
Did you lead, like, like, did you put on, like, a little bit of.
- [90:21]
C
A. I did a little Luan voice.
- [90:23]
B
A little Lou, give me, give me like a. A sample.
- [90:27]
C
What do you say to taking chances?
- [90:30]
B
And Brian, in your professional opinion, does money buy you class?
- [90:36]
C
No, but it can buy first class.
- [90:37]
B
Boom. You guys enjoy the book? It's so fabulous. Brian, I love you very, very much.
- [90:41]
C
So much.
- [90:42]
B
Thank you for listening and we'll see you tomorrow. Bye.