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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off.
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Swirly.
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It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Terse. It's the worst girls you've ever met on Opposite Day. Hey, Jax, how do you turn on.
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Opposite Day and the Tuesday of what is now a short week. Thank you to Mr. Columbus and the indigenous peeps, because we are starting off the week as shorties, which we always are.
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In a partialicious kind of way.
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In a partialicious manner.
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I've really been saying par g so much. I realize that I have now replaced Paraji, obviously, for, like, wow, she looks beautiful. While she looks pargy. But it has also replaced. Okay, somebody's like, does that work for you, Pargie?
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P for pargy.
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Yeah, it's really so gang infiltrated my vernacular.
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That kind of looks like a gang symbol.
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Gang.
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Gang.
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Pargy. Gang.
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I love that. I love your gang Pargy.
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Me too.
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Well, I think that's great. When in doubt, parge it out title. Oh, I was gonna say Party Gang. I love that, actually. Look at that.
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At the bare minimum, we have a great title. If the rest of the episode goes to shit, like, we're good.
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Who gives a damn?
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Now we're like every other podcast. Like, great titles, terrible episodes with us. We have the worst titles. You would never know. It's the most amazing episode.
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Even though I would love to phone it in for this episode and, like, just bank on this party title. We actually have so much to catch up on with each other on, so much to discuss. Like, the stories are par G. The girl, the hosts are par g. We haven't, like, really FaceTimed in a couple days. So, like, I don't know what's going on with you. I want to hear about la. Like, I want to hear about food taking Hollywood. So, like, unfortunately, this episode is going to be amazing. Maybe tomorrow we could phone it in.
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I mean, we could try. It would actually be harder for us to put together a bad episode than it would to be to put it together a good episode. Sorry. Not to be annoying. It's just, like, facts.
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Well, speaking of all of the above, how's Los Angeles treating you?
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Well, if you had watched my vlog from Sunday, you wouldn't need to ask, because on Sunday, it was actually Ben's idea. We had woken up at the crack of dawn, as usual, and he was.
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Oh, he's becoming such an LA creator, Jackie.
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The Amy Winehouse level pushing that's going on in my home, like, you have no idea. It just. We're mere moments away from Ben being, like, on the streets.
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He.
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It was his idea. And it was true because we were having, like such an LA day. We spent so much time in the car and I really did want to vlog it, so I won't spoil too much. But if you're, like, curious about what life is like in la, a lot about, like, Ruby's schedule in there too. We went to the Cheesecake Factory. We went to Josh Peck's son's birthday party. Was like, so li.
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Were there other celebrities?
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Check it out. That's actually a really good question. I want to say no. Besides, for Josh. And it was the first time seeing Josh in person since I saw his sex scene.
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Did it change things?
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I actually couldn't look him in the eyes.
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That's fair. That feels right.
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I had to wear sunglasses.
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So are you loving the Angelian lifestyle?
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Well, no, I'm not hating it, which is huge for me.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And there's definitely things, you know, that have merit. We went to Erewhon. We went to Erawan.
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But I will say, what do you think about Erewhon?
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So it's just a grocery store and. And it's very. It's just like a fancy. It's like a Butterfield or the Kosher Grocer is very similar. They have just like, better produce than your average and fancier, more expensive brands of, like, tortilla chips. So that part wasn't earth shattering. I think what people really go there for is it's like a restaurant. So there's like a hot bar, like.
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The Prepared foods coffee bar.
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The prepared foods.
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Prepared foods greater than other foods.
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Agreed. You know what? I. You know how I like my food prepared.
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That's what's so great about the Hamptons. Like, we go there for two months for prepared foods provisions. Like, people need to start preparing more food.
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Agreed. And I happen to have celeb spotting at Erewhon. In the prepared food section, I saw Bria, Nikki, Bella.
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Fun.
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Yeah. They were so Brie and Nikki. Do you know what I mean? Like, Nikki was glammed out to the gods. Her hair was long and huge and she was wearing a full face. And Bri was, like, wearing a flannel. You would never know that Bri was famous if they weren't together. You know, they're really a package unit. So we went to the prepared food section. We got Lunch. We've actually been now twice. Ben also went back for the juice bar. You know, they have their smoothies and things, and it was good. It was good. Like, it's just food. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know what I was.
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Expecting, like, magic, but when we went to Round Swamp this summer, like, we were blown away.
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So you were blown away.
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You are capable of being blown away.
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Okay. What was impressive about it is it's just, like, really organized. You should see how many people work there back in the hot food section. Like, they know. And we went on a Friday at noon. Like, bad idea. So it was, like, lunchtime. Their offerings are vast. I got. And I took a video, but I forgot to post it. I got these, like, Asian noodles. Amazing. And that was, like, the thing I got that. I was like, I'm not gonna eat the Mac and cheese. It's hard to up Mac and cheese.
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No.
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And then I also.
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But people, like, get too big for their riches.
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It can be done. Yes, it absolutely can be done. And then I also got the chicken fingers, which were so bad. And I was shook because, like, chicken fingers are so easy. It's actually, like, hard to mess up chicken fingers. And then Ben was like, I thought it was weird that you got the chicken fingers. And I'm like, why is that weird? He was like, because they were turmeric chicken fingers. I was like, what? He's like, do they taste, like, weird at all? I'm like, no. And they actually didn't taste like turmeric. I didn't like them because there was, like, a weird taste. They were just, like, plain and, like, really subpar. And he's like, yeah, I thought it was really weird that you chose the turmeric chicken fingers. And that is weird.
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If you and Ben were a dish, you'd be the turmeric chicken fingers.
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I love that.
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It's really beautiful. And it's not tasty.
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It's not tasty. It was just, like, very meh. So all that to say, I think what's most impressive about Erawan, it's like this big grocery store that's really clean. Like, all. Everything on the shelves is fresh. They're always in stock. It's just, like, a beautiful place. I don't think so much. What they offer is, like, unique, you know?
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Okay.
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And I just want to say, as somebody who frequents the Whole Foods hot bar quite a bit. It's also really good. Like, they just. I don't know. I think they just display things really nicely. It's so la, you know, like, speaking of la, I've made an observation. I said to Ben, I'm like, we are the only fat people here. Like, it is not a chubby city. And of course, when I said that to Ben, we were walking on the street and then we saw, like, eight fat people in a row, but it.
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Was just like, plants, industry plants.
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Nobody hears that. And everyone here is actually so skinny.
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That's, like, good, you know, It's a healthy city.
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It's just a bad place to hate yourself, you know? It's a bad place to be in when you're struggling.
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I am that. I understand, you know, But I think that should be, like, a credit to LA, that, like, it's a healthy town.
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Yeah, you think?
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I guess people could, like, be, like, skinny and not healthy.
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Very true. Not you being toxic yet again? I mean, are we surprised?
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No, but you could also be healthy. But they also just live a healthy lifestyle out there. But they're also all on drugs, so it's like, are they healthy? I don't know. So true. Have you been doing drugs?
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I haven't started doing drugs yet, and that's because I'm breastfeeding. And so once I'm done breastfeeding, I will, you know, get on the drugs. And I also haven't seen any drugs. You know what I mean?
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Oh, so you're not really in it yet?
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No, I feel like with the right.
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People, maybe at Chateau Marmont doing drugs. Yeah. Yeah, totally.
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You. How was your long weekend?
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My weekend was nice. Really? Another relaxing weekend. We really can't take on too much, but I did something really special for Jack's self, and I got a prenatal massage. And let me tell you, I'm getting another one and another one and another one. It was really wonderful to just relax in that manner. I felt very relaxed. And usually by the time the massage is done, if I'm like. If they're sort of futzing and I'm like, okay, are we done? Like, please, kind of. I'm ready to go. I was so sad to see it.
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Drag you out of there.
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Yeah, I actually, like, when I sat up, they expect, you know, that I'm gonna move slowly. But when I sat up, I checked my phone, and then I just, like, kind of forgot where I was. And I'm just, like, on my phone. And I think the woman chatting outside the door was like, are you okay in there? Because I just, like, forgot that I have to get up from here.
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Was it one of those where they had the hole in the bed or you laid on your side?
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No, I laid on my side in, like, a gorgeous pillow. And if. If it was a hole in the bed, I. I couldn't go for a.
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Hole in the bed.
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One time I got a hole in the bed prenata, like, it was too much. So I was lightheaded.
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One time I got a hole in the bed. Prenatal massage when I was in Miami. And when I tell you I actually outwardly moaned at one point. I don't know if I was just so excited to be, like, being rubbed or, like, laying on my stomach for the first time in months. It was the most amazing experience of my life.
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I just.
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I do think you're too pregnant. I think five months pregnant.
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I remember, like, feeling, like, lightheaded. Like, it was an amazing massage. It was very immersive, but it was almost too much. Like, I couldn't. I. I don't want to reach that level of, like, relaxation. Like, I just want to vibe. And that's what I had in my massage, which was really great. But then afterwards, I had a doctor's appointment and, like, something a little startling.
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Happened because you're crazy to go from.
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A massage to a. Claudia, I was leading a life of regret.
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I didn't realize it should be the other way.
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I know I didn't realize what I had done, but it was already like, books and, you know, I don't want to call someone and move it. So I guess I'll be going to my doctor's appointment. And, you know, sometimes at this doctor, like, the doctor gives you, like, a piece of paper that you give to the front desk that says, like, when you need to come back and, like, just like, some info about you. And at the bottom, there are, like, a bunch of conditions and there were a couple, like, circled. And I. I saw that obesity was circled.
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Oh.
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And I just, like, I didn't have a lot of time because I was handing it in. So I looked at what the other circle was, and it was cervical incompetence, which I do have. Which means.
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Which we know to be true, Right?
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Which means, like, obesity I do have.
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I just think, honestly, because, you know, obviously I relate to this in the deep sense. They tell me I was obese on my six postpartum appointment, which is technically true. I was obese at my six point and my six week postpartum appointment. I don't think medically, scientifically, or, you know, judicially, you can categorize a pregnant woman as obese even if she Was obese before. Like, you can't.
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Yeah, no, I, I, I. Now I'm excited for my next appointment because I want to read, like, what.
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Have some follow up questions. Yeah.
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Because it's like, is it history of. But then they're saying, like, I was once obese. Like, but that's not any history.
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I don't think you have a history.
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Maybe it's like family history. But I don't have a family.
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Now you're throwing me under the bus.
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It's like, sister that you work with, you're such a. No, but like, I don't have a family history of cervical incompetence. So it's like, I need to, I need to get back in there. I need to see what this said.
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One thing about it just like when I was.
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It left me very on edge because, you know, I've been on, like a health journey. I'm feeling very snatched.
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Yeah. One thing, like, if anyone here is pregnant or new to the pregnancy journey, if they give you a sheet at the doctor's office, do not look at it. Whatever you do, do not look at it. It might have your weight on it. It might have a condition called obesity on it. Like, do not do it.
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So now I'm just like on the edge of my seat. Like, what was that?
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She's counting down the minutes.
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And when I handed it into the reception, I was like, am I obese?
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She was probably like, oh, sweetie, this isn't for you. This is someone else's. Yeah.
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She was like, you know, they just like, no, no.
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Like, she said that.
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Yeah, she was like, no, they just.
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You're obese.
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I'm obese.
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That's such, that's like what a liar says.
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Like, of course I'm obese. Might as well have pregnant. Might as well have circled pregnant.
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Yeah. No, they really need to do better, like, with the vernacular.
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Yeah. So that was just like a little destabilizing.
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I'm so sorry that that happened to you.
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Yeah.
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I'm validating you. That is wrong.
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Yeah. So I'm just, like, seeking stability. Just when, like, I thought I was like, crushing it.
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Yeah. I do want to say you look amazing. I have thought that now for many weeks that you just are crushing it. So don't listen to what those. What the hell do those doctors know anyway?
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Like, haters are my haters.
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Doctors are such haters. Do you feel that?
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I do. But, like, I so respect them because, like, they operate at such a high level. No. And like, under a series of facts, you know, yeah, it's like we very.
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Much operate in the field of feelings and they very much exist within the realm of straight facts.
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Like the numbers are what they are.
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You're fat.
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Like you're big. Your dogs are gay.
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Your dogs are gay. Now we do have a great show for everyone today. Stories are aplenty because we had the three day weekend and it's Tuesday which means dtq Dear Toasters community is going to be fed this evening also if.
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You want to be extra fed and be obese. Dear Toasters Community.
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Oh yeah.
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Zach and I recorded a Dear Toasters Patreon episode together. Like relationship themed. Dear Toasters. It's amazing. It comes out on Patreon this week. As soon as I like feel the itch, like people are itching for it, I'll drop. Was honestly so funny. We had a blast. Like we should give advice more often. We're hysterical.
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And how is the state of your marriage after recording an episode with your husband? Because I know how difficult that can be on a family.
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Never better. Which is so crazy. It's like I do dread recording with him because. But sometimes, you know, you've got to. But it could be very stressful, especially when in charge and your microphone is moving and like you're not. You're like you're responding with silence or you're responding with a nod like you know what I mean? No, but we were really connected. Oh that's where just like being so funny. Like a lot of like person.
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Oh my God.
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Really funny facts. Yeah. Cuz like people were writing in about stuff that's like so real. Yeah, so real. So that's coming up on Patreon. Claudia's vlogs on Patreon. There's just plenty, plenty content, plenty to.
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Chew on for a fatty for fatty such as yourself.
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Okay, well let's get into everything because we have a lot, we've bitten off a lot and now we need to clearly. Without further ado, here are the fast life stories that you to do need to know.
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You saying it's prepared?
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Check out the chocolate chip cookie granola. Like seriously, check it out. Okay. That's all I'm gonna say.
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Our first story is some sad news. Diane.
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Oh my God.
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Diane Keaton, famed for roles in Father of the Bride, First Wives Club and more, dies at the age of 79. So over the weekend it was announced that Diane Keaton passed away. Her rep said there are no further details available at this time and her family has asked for privacy in this moment of great sadness. The LAFD confirmed to people that they responded to her home at 8am local time and trans transported a 79 year old woman to the hospital.
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Like, I didn't know we had to be on the lookout for Diana Heaton. What were we just talking about? Like older celebrities like the Betty White effect, where we're just like sort of waiting, hoping, wishing, praying. Diane Keaton wasn't on my list because I guess in like a technical sense she's 79. She's like eternally 57, you know?
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Yeah. And she had such a youthful spirit.
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She had such a youthful spirit even Though it's really crazy when you, like, look at her breadth of work and the things she's been in. Because, like, yeah, I guess she is or was 79. Like, she was in the Godfather and she was so young. She was in, like, all those Woody Allen movies. She was so young. She has had such. It's crazy. Like, what do you think is the best Diane Keaton movie?
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Oh, my gosh. What I would say is not what, you know, the world. The world would say, but my favorite Diane Keaton movie. Let me think. What's yours?
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Mama said there'd be days like this There'd be days like this Mama, Mama said, Mama said Because I said so. With Mandy Moore and Piper Parabo and Lauren Graham and Gabriel mocked from suits.
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No. Best fucking movie, Morning Glory.
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Oh, my God.
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That just made me extra sad. Me, too.
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Oh, my God. I didn't realize. Like, for those who don't know, the reason Jackie and I are sitting here today is because of the movie Morning Glory. I forgot. And she's hilarious. We're always quoting her in that one line. And today on the show, we've got Celine Dion's personal chef. Oh, my God, Wade, that's devastating. One thing about Diane, she had taste. She had a good picker. Like, she knew what to pick.
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Banger rolls.
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Yeah.
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Other people might know her from Father of the Bride, the Godfather. Gotta give Book Club, First Wives Club, which Claudia and I, like, did try to get into late in life, and it was just not holding up.
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I have a lot of negative thoughts and feelings about First Wives Clubs and then, like, the way people talk and treat that movie. But given, you know, respect for the deceased, I won't.
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It's not the time.
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It's not.
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It's not the time for the dragging of First Wives Club. I hope you understand.
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But will you let me know when it is the time?
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Because I'm ready next time that movie comes up on the show. Okay. Could be tomorrow, but it cannot be today.
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No, I'm devastated. I really am. It's hard to, like, compare her to anyone. Somebody who really had such an impact on, like, a many generations of women. I feel like, you know, everyone's mom has the Diane Keaton movie that they love, and then everyone, every millennial has one. Nancy Byers wrote such a lovely tribute because, of course, something's got to give us up there for the best Diane Keaton movie. I was shocked.
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Yeah, me too. Shocked and saddened.
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Do you remember when Kyle Richards accused her of, like, stealing her mother's ring? No, that was a crazy story. You don't remember that?
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No.
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So, like, oh, yeah. I think when Kyle's house got robbed, she lost, like, this beloved ring that belonged to Kyle Richards mother. And then, like, two years later, Diane Keaton posted a picture of, like, her hands on Instagram. She was wearing, like, a thousand rings, and Kyle Richards was like, diane Keaton. That's my mother's ring. And Diane Keaton was like, what the are you talking about? I bought it like a flea market. It was like this kind of weird.
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Like, maybe she could have bought the stolen ring.
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No. Dan Keene was like, I've had this ring for 30 years.
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Oh. Oh, wow.
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And I don't think Diane Keaton appreciated, like, the insinuation that she was a thief.
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That's weird.
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It was one of those, like, very strange celebrity crossover moments.
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I didn't even recall it.
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I don't want to harp on this too much, because this short show is, like a beacon of light and positivity, but I'm really sad, and I. I didn't know she was struggling with any sort of health issues. And she will go down in history as one of the greatest actresses of our time. And I feel like she actually. I know this is gonna sound crazy. I feel like she doesn't get enough credit, even though she's, like, the most beloved, because everybody's always like, you know, Meryl Streep.
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Like, yeah, Jackie.
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Jackie. I did not want to bring Meryl Streep into this.
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Yeah. Because we don't have to, like, break down another woman. Like, but I just. For comparison's sake, like, we do. Yes. Diane doesn't get her flowers because she's, like, constantly overshadowed by more serious older actresses as well. Like, people think that you just have to be so serious in order to be respected, but, like, Diane Keaton was keeping it fun and keeping it light, and I just feel like it's so. She didn't get what the respect she deserved. But I feel like in this moment, we're all coming together and realizing, like, Diane Keaton did great things for this world.
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Have you ever seen the movie Baby Boom?
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I think I have.
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It's an amazing Diane Keaton movie that I watched so randomly a couple of years ago. I don't know if it's, like, her biggest movie, and I think it was just at a time, like, after the Godfather, when she was super young, and she was just, like, making movies after movie, and it hit after hit, and it's this great movie about this, like, working gal. It's actually very relevant working gal who finds herself pregnant and she's like, oh, my God, what am I gonna do? And I don't want to spoil it. And I also don't remember, but I remember being like, deeply, deeply moved by it.
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I remember, like, that I've watched it and I liked it.
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It's a great film.
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Yeah. So take the time. A Diane Keaton film. Maybe it's Morning Glory, but I would have felt like, remiss to not make it a story. I know we don't typically harp on, like, slap deaths, but, like, I feel like she. She needed a moment.
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She needed a moment. And I very rarely utter these three words in a serious sense, but as a woman, Diane Keaton is important.
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Oh, I thought you were gonna say these three words. Rest in peace.
B
Well, of course I want her to rest in peace, but we don't. I prefer to say rip.
A
We don't usually say it in a serious sense. I thought for sure that's what you were about to say.
B
Oh, I could see how that would be incredibly misleading. I apologize, but no, I was saying as a woman.
A
And then what did you say after that?
B
Like, Diane Keaton was important to us. She was a big figure. She will be missed.
A
Yeah, she will be. Are you ready for our next story? Taylor Swift is bringing six episode ERAS tour documentary and final show concert film to Disney plus in December. So lured announced that she had an announcement and then the announcement was that she has a six part docu series about the ERAS tour called Taylor Swift the Errors Tour, the End of an Era the that will premiere on Disney plus on December 12, accompanied by the simultaneous release of a new concert film, Taylor Swift's the ERAS Tour the ERA show, which was shot at her tour finale in Vancouver bc. This is significant because this will include the tortured poets department department of the show. Whereas the eras tour version that's right now on Disney plus does not include TTBD and the six part. The six part docu series. The first two episodes will come out on December 12th and then the other ones will come out at a later date.
B
Oh, I didn't even know that. Thank you. Yes. So when I saw Taylor was releasing like an announcement on gma, I'm not gonna lie, I did not get excited. Like Queen loves to be like, I have an announcement. Another cd, Shiny Bug. Yeah.
A
I don't know if you could tell, but I'm like pretty scarred by Shiny Bug because I was like this summer riding that high of new heights to lo us announcement engagement. Like, oh my God. I was on emergency live episode. Like, couldn't be more excited. And then there's a countdown.
B
Ha.
A
Shiny bug.
B
Can you. What? Shiny bug. I don't even know what you're talking about.
A
Like, she did all those vinyls and one of them was like the life of a showgirl. The shiny bug. Ba ba ba ba ba. And people thought that was Super Bowl. Shiny bug.
B
Got it. Okay. But it was just a bug that was shiny.
A
No, it was just like the. I don't know what the it was. And then, you know, just like how she did like pink lemonade spritz album.
B
Got it. Okay. So when I saw there was a GMA announcement, like, I did not gird my loins. I honestly was just prepared to be disappointed. I was not like staying up to listen or whatever. And then when I was seeing the first announcement come out, I was like, oh, the ERAS tour is coming out, but this time it's a documentary with the ttpd. I'm like, oh, that's nice. I don't know if that's like a GMA announcement, but great. Then I saw the six episodes things. I'm like, this. This is something I'm looking forward to.
A
Yeah. And I'm glad that she recorded the behind the scenes. It was a major moment. I feel like there's more. Travis, is there content to pull from it?
B
Oh, yeah. I mean, we only know, you know, the life of a showgirl, the front facing show that we've all seen a million times. But it really, I do find it interesting, like what goes on backstage behind the curtain of like the biggest tour of all time. And then of course, what's going on in her personal life simultaneously is even more interesting. So I think that this is great. I love a docu series. Taylor has done, you know, docu style content before Miss Americana, which was good. So I'm excited.
A
Two things. One, I just sent you shiny bug. So take a look. I didn't just pull it out of my arse.
B
No, I believe you.
A
Yeah. And then the second thing I was gonna say, I'll wait until I have your full attention for this one. This one's an on brand with Jimmy Fallon sort of idea.
B
Wait, where'd you send it?
A
Dm.
B
Oh, oh, oh, sorry, sorry.
A
I should have made that clear. We have multiple channels of communication.
B
Shiny bug vinyl. Okay.
A
Like what?
B
Yeah, I don't know.
A
She should have called this. Even though the end of an era is good, she should have called it like the showgirl and like.
B
Right, right.
A
Worked it into. Because actually this documentary should have been called the Life of a Showgirl because this is about the behind the scenes of the show, which is what she said. Life of a Showgirl is about.
B
Yes, yes.
A
Documentary.
B
I prefer Tiloas.
A
No brainer.
B
One thing about Taylor, and, you know, I love her. She's not good at naming things. And, like, she loves to have, like, a million parentheses. Like, even, like, the era Taylor Swift, the Eras tour, the era show.
A
Like, just Taylor's version.
B
It should just be called Eras Acoustic. She loves, like, a lengthy title with, like, parentheses, commas. Semicolons.
A
Your worst nightmare. Oh, except for commas. You like commas too?
B
I do.
A
You really do. This one has lines.
B
Oh, and Taylor was at the game yesterday. She didn't like, you know, do her big, fancy walk, but they just, you know, they got her in the suite, the camera.
A
She was seen in the box. Which, like, confirms the fact that she wasn't seen for a month because of her plastic surgery. Allegedly. But that just feels, like, very obvious now. I caught a little bit of the game. The Chiefs won. I couldn't stay up that late. But Travis was like, okay. I don't know. It's. I think it's time to retire.
B
I know. It's like, he didn't want to retire because he wants to come back and win this season. And he, like, spent a whole off season in Florida with this, like, fancy pargy trainer, and he's coming back better than ever. He's the best shape he's ever been, and he's just, like, playing really not good. And there's, like, young, hot things on the team, like, to do his job, but better. And I just feel awkward.
A
I feel awkward. I also feel like Patrick is, like, doing the best he can for him and, like, still giving him, like, trying to give him moments and stuff. But, like, at a certain point, like, he can only do so much for his friend.
B
Patrick has to balance, like, being the quarterback of a team that, like, has other things going on besides Travis, while also his friendship with Travis and, like, wanting to throw Travis the ball. But it's like, travis, if I throw you the ball, are you gonna catch it?
A
No. And it's like, if he doesn't throw Travis the ball, like, is Taylor gonna be mad at him? Take it out on Brittany.
B
Like, take it out on Brittany. Right.
A
I feel like there's a lot of dynamics at play, and it's holding Travis Patrick back.
B
Yeah, I agree. Like, the toxic friendship. Yeah, I have felt that, too.
A
So, anyways, we'll catch you for the documentary. That's exciting.
B
Oh, yeah. I'll be tuning in.
A
Yeah. Our next story is some new couple news that I don't know if you've heard yet, because I just heard it for the first time and it's very new. Two dates in two nights between John Mayer and Cat Stickler.
B
Okay, so I did see this on dub, but then I saw everybody in the comments dispelling it. Like, no, she just hard launched a boyfriend on social media. So I don't know what's true and I don't know what's not.
A
Okay, yeah, no, this is from Dumois, but they were seen going, and then.
B
Dumois was responding to comments like, maybe her and John are friends. Like, which is it?
A
Oh, did I get got like, she.
B
Literally just, she's been, like, sneakily hinting that she's been seeing someone for a.
A
While, but I don't think that this is it because this seems like they just went on a date and it was really good. So they went on a second date.
B
And then she, like, hard launched him like he was in the video.
A
Can you just like, go look? I'm tick tock. I'll look on.
B
Yeah, of course. But look at what Am I looking for a boyfriend? Like, I guess it's possible that they broke up and then she went on a date with John Mayer, but I don't know, she like, finally put him in. Is it her video?
A
I mean, you would, you would break up with him to go on a date with John Mayer, wouldn't you?
B
I actually wouldn't. Not to make everything about me, but, like, I have, like, moved off of my crush on John Mayer just like, I still would go out with him just like, for the story and, like, I'd probably, like, let him kiss me.
A
But you'd let him. You're so generous. So I kind of want to, like, just roll with this.
B
And I'm not saying that it's not true.
A
Do you ship?
B
I thought that. I don't ship. I don't know if it's true, but again, I don't. I think there are a lot of people who keep up with Cat Stickler and, like, are obsessed with who she's dating and like, are either, like, freaking.
A
Out that she's dating someone new or.
B
They shame her for introducing one of, you know, a man to her kid without, like, there's. She gets so much hate. I don't actually don't know if they're dating. I, I, I feel like Dumois doesn't know either.
A
Is it because that you took Jason's side in the breakup.
B
Oh, that's a good question. I actually didn't take Jason's side in the breakup because. And I mean, this would love. I don't care.
A
You don't just find yourself, like, having, like, a. A wall up. Because being team Jason, I actually do.
B
Find myself having a wall up, but that's just because I love walls.
A
Yeah. I love your wall contractor.
B
So I. The thing is with John Mayer is, like, you really can't. Even if he was dating someone like you love, you can't get excited about him. He's like this eternal bachelor. It's not fun. I. I actually gave up hope on John Mayer after Katy Perry, because to me, there was, like, until that point, that really could have been the girl for him. Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Aniston. And after Katy Perry, who I really believe is the one that got away. For John Mayer.
A
Yeah.
B
It's hard to get excited and invested in his dating life. It's such a fruitless, like, unhappy endeavor.
A
Well, considering we don't have much to say about this for multitude of reasons. Speaking of Katy Perry, do you see her? Did you see Mr. Trudeau grabassing her a handful of Arseni Perry?
B
I did. Also, it's worth mentioning because I think we did not say this the last time we talked about Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau. Huge, important, just, like, small detail. Justin Trudeau is actually not the active prime minister of Canada, so him being on a boat in California with an asshole of Katy Perry, like, is technically okay with me, because it's not like he is, like, a job he should be doing.
A
He's separated from his wife.
B
Oh, separated.
A
Yeah. I do think, like, you should wait till it's final to be grabbing ass. And not just, like, grabbing ass, but, like, you know, because you're in a bathing suit. It's skin.
B
It's a lot of ass. Yeah.
A
It's skin to skin.
B
And this does feel like a historic event in the sense that I cannot think in recent memory of a similar example where a politician has been caught, like, with a celebrity grabbing ass.
A
Oh, I don't know about, like, caught grabbing ass, but there have been a couple of politicians who have, like, been with celebrities, like, for real, like Carla Bruni and Nicholas Sarkozy.
B
Oh, actually. Okay. Yeah. Also Cheryl from Larry David.
A
That's a great comparison.
B
Thank you. Even though it's different because.
A
Right.
B
Their marriage precedes his candidacy, whereas, like, Justin Trudeau's an established politician.
A
Yeah.
B
There really. There is no.
A
Oh, oh, oh, Cory Booker and Rosario Dawson.
B
Yes. Very good example.
A
And they would never be caught like this.
B
And if they did, like, it would be inappropriate, like, do you know what I mean? I'm sorry if that's like not okay to say. But it's, this is inappropriate. Not to be such a prude, like clutching my pearls. But it's like you're the Prime Minister of Canada for cracking. It's not even like you're the prime minister of somewhere.
A
Like sexy like, it's Canada. Yeah.
B
What are you doing, bro?
A
Yeah, like put your coat on.
B
What are you doing? Yeah, it's like a little. What's this? A boot?
A
Yeah. It's a shame though because there, it could be really like exciting. There's potential for excitement. It just like doesn't hit for me in the way that I think they intend to it. And then they thought.
B
Correct, correct.
A
Which I think seems to happen with Katy Perry like a lot.
B
Well, therein lies the issue. Either she's been real quiet. Wait, can we talk about JLo?
A
What about what A boot.
B
So this, we talked about that movie premiere that she went to with her.
A
Man, the Kiss of the Spider Woman.
B
And so the Kiss of a Spider Woman opened like this past weekend with like 1.5 million dollar in ticket sales, like a record low. And then like all these like pop crave like Twitter accounts that like literally celebrities just pay these accounts to like say stuff about them and like promote their new music. And it's like Kiss of a Spider Death with JLO has early Oscar buzz. No, it doesn't.
A
No, it doesn't.
B
And then this video of her going viral is going viral of her rehearsing. Have you seen it?
A
No.
B
So she's like in her house with her vocal coach and she's like singing this big note and she's not like botching it, but it's like so average. Like so average. And then she's like so self righteous and the vocal coach is like clapping like, yes, things you did. Like, yes, you're. That it is so cringe because like the vocal performance she delivers prior to like everybody clapping for her is so mediocre. And she's just like, she like the JLO hate. I could say I could feel it like it's rising. She's getting clowned on for this movie and then the video.
A
Okay, well, I don't want to pile on.
B
And I also just move on.
A
I'm not interested.
B
Yeah, I'm kind of into it.
A
Are you ready for our next story?
B
Number four? Yeah.
A
Peace. On earth, historic peace was brokered this weekend between Lauren Conrad and Kristen Cavallari.
B
I was like, wait, that's actually crazy.
A
She's making the story, especially the fourth story, like, world of peace.
B
I was just like, I genuinely confused. A plus delivery. Let me just tell you that. A plus.
A
Thank you so much. World peace is the fourth story.
B
World peace, like, is kind of the energy of the week. So it makes sense that Elsie and Kristen cav, like, got back together.
A
Yeah. Lauren Conrad and Christy Cavallary squash years long feud with a Laguna beach reunion photo. So they didn't give us much, but they posted a picture together. And Kristen said everyone can put away their team Lauren and team Kristen shirts now. That's all.
B
I don't want to break it to Kristen Cavallari. Like, nobody has a team Lauren or team Kristen shirt. Like, nobody really cares anymore.
A
So Kristen is about to start doing, like, re watch for the hills. And I know that, like, when she did back to the beach, they had Lauren on and that was the bearing of the hatchet. It was such, like, it was such a healing episode. It was huge. And also, like, it was so good, like, to see them, like, come together, like, talk about, like this beef and like each of their POVs and like, at this point, like, people love both of them whether regardless of what side you were on back in the day. So, like, that we can root for both of our faves now is really exciting.
B
Yeah. And it feels fair because at the time, like, it was just everyone against Kristen Cavallari. And then if you re watch it as an adult, which I think a lot of people did, you're like, oh, my God, Lauren's insufferable and she's so rude and like, sorry, Kristen's the fun one. Kristen's the one, like, who's more sympathetic when you re watch it, like, through adult eyes. So I do feel like things have, like, leveled out.
A
Yeah. And I hope, like, now in life they have much more in common than they have not in common.
B
Moms, business owners.
A
Yeah. Similar sort of business. Both really successful. There's enough space for all of us. And I'm happy to see that they're friends and that like, so do we.
B
Know the context in which they got together?
A
Like, no. That's the thing. So maybe like, Lauren's going on her podcast to do a little Hills recon, but they were never on the hills at the same time. So the episodes that Kristen's watching, I don't even think Lauren's in them.
B
Yes. They were. When they were both dating Stephen.
A
That's O.C. laguna Beach.
B
Oh, wait, sorry. Kristen Cavalier is re watching the Hills.
A
Yes. Like, later in the Hills. After Lauren left, they brought.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
And so she's re watching those Brody.
B
Right.
A
And recapping and like, Justin, Bobby, and Adrina. But I don't think Lauren was ever on when she was on. So I don't know if they're gonna recap it together.
B
Right. I. I'd have a hard time, like, imagine them getting together for, like, social purposes, like, if it's not like a podcast or a rewatch or something. But I'd also have a hard time believing that Lauren would do another. Like, her going to Back to the beach was so crazy, so big, and it was like, gonna be the first and last time she ever, ever discussed any of it. Right.
A
Yeah.
B
I don't know. I can't see her doing it twice.
A
So then it was just her friend. It looks like they're in a house.
B
Yeah, it looked like a party. It definitely was giving. Like, Elsie's house.
A
You think so?
B
Yeah, it looked like very cottage core. Oh, now Smith had her baby.
A
I saw Fawny. There's like a step stool right here. I just feel like. And a white trash can. No, it's not Elsie's house.
B
Okay.
A
Not.
B
Not the white refrigerator.
A
It looks like a rental.
B
Oh, okay. Not the rental.
A
Yeah, no, but a nice one. Sorry to whoever home this is, but you could have put the step stool away for this iconic picture of world peace. Nobel Peace Prize. Whoever's house is nominated for the Nobel.
B
Before we dive into the fifth and final, which is going to lead us into the dtq, may I let you know that the remainder of today's episode is brought to you by Bilt Rewards.
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Please do.
B
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B
They have a ton of sizes too. I don't. Sorry, I was like, zoned out. I don't know if you said that.
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But no, I didn't. I hadn't touched on the sizes yet.
B
So thank you, but you're welcome.
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Trust us, once your order arrives, you'll be hooked. That's S-H-O-P-A-V-A-R-A.com remember the name of Ara because everyone's going to ask you where you got your new outfit. Our fifth and final story, Kylie Jenner is promoting a new Kylie cosmetics campaign called the King Kylie collection, hailing back to the days of yore of King Kylie. So for her new campaign, For Kylie Cosmetics, she's throwing it back to the days of teal blue hair and Snapchat. And it's a makeup collection about King Kylie era. If you were there for King Kylie era, like, this, that sentence, lots of color, crazy lips. If you were there for it, like, what I just said makes sense. If you weren't, then I don't know how to explain any better than that, honestly.
B
This was like, the era that Kylie was living in that really launched her billion dollar beauty brand. She was doing these, like, crazy eye looks, these crazy lip colors. She would wear, like, you know, teal hair. She wore teal hair to Kim and Kanye's wedding. Kim, you know, famously hated it. And this was like kind of that, like, rebellious teenager that launched this huge brand. And that was also really the vibe aesthetically back in the day, like, people were really into this, like, color. Wow. Like, just crazy big palettes. Very Jeffree star. And the beauty industry has, like, moved on from that. It's much more like clean girl aesthetic. Everything's nude and shimmery now. So on the one hand, I'm, like, happy that Kylie, specifically Kylie Cosmetics, like, is doing something that people are talking about because the brand really has, I feel, been struggling to, like, make a splash recently. But the fact that, like, what they're making a splash with is something, like, old and, like, silly, and this is like a sort of memorabilia type thing, it doesn't bode well.
A
Yeah, a couple times over the last 10 years, she's, like, thrown it back to King Kylie. Like, it's always like, you know, she'll put on a wig and she'll be like, king Kylie.
B
We're like.
A
But now, clearly, like, a lot of money and time and resources have been invested into a King Kylie collection. And I know you guys know, like, I love everything Kylie does. Like, I love her so much, and I actually. I love Kylie cosmetics. I love. I love your lips kits. Kylie still, like, I think that they really work for me in this life. This is a no for me, dog.
B
I completely agree. Like, I actually could not muster up one positive thing to say about this. Like, I don't care. Even, like, the video of her singing and then the Snapchat thing. Like, I, like, I literally don't.
A
Oh, yeah, there's a song. And it's also a partnership with Snapchat. And I guess Snapchat was, like, germane to the King Kylie process. As one of Kylie's biggest fans. Like, none of this is doing anything for me.
B
I know. And I. I'm like, waiting to feel something, but nothing's coming because I again, don't care. And it's a shame because I actually think Kylie cosmetics, I don't know where they go from here because they do have some bomb products. Like, nobody cares. The skin tint I got over the summer is like my favorite thing I've ever worn. And skin tints are really in right now. And there's like so many viral ones and the Kylie's is not there. I don't know how they get back in the game. And I just really don't think going back to, like, the thing that launched is gonna work.
A
Yeah. But I also feel like aside from this King Kylie, like, if this is their, you know, big stab at coming back, like, I think it's like the wrong move in the wrong direction. I do feel like they actually don't try that hard. Like, I wish they did. Right. Like, you're saying the product is good and I, I agree. Like, it is when I need new lipsticks, like, I go to kyliecosmetics.com because I know I like the colors, I like the formula, the products are good. So it's not even like she has to, like, brand build in that sense. She just has to, like, do some, like, influencer events to care.
B
Like a little bit more.
A
Like, the way that Hailey Bieber's like, always and not to pit women against each other. That, I mean, she does her, like, cute videos. I really enjoy them.
B
Me too.
A
Is one bit of the piece of the puzzle.
B
Yeah. When it comes to being like a celebrity founder in, like, the beauty space, you have to be doing what, like Selena Haley, like, throwing these events, making content with influencers, doing the TikTok brand trips. Like, she does none of that. Like, I don't even know what they do that they don't do. PR boxes. Like, and if they do, they're not making waves because I do not see them. But the way that, like, people are desperate to get their hands on the road pr, like, that's brilliant marketing. Like, you, you're. You have to. I don't think road has ever paid an influencer. Yeah, but people are dying. Like, one of my actual claim to fames is that I get the road PR and like, if I ever get taken off of it, I will know. I'm like, seriously on the outs. Like, I'm not cool anym anymore. It's a status symbol. Kylie is like, totally failed in that way. It just feels like she doesn't really care about the brand. And if that's the case, like, that's totally fine. Like, seriously, just put it out.
A
And is it because, like, Cody owns 50% of it? Like, she collects a check. No matter how it does, she does the same. I don't know.
B
I don't know. But it should be because she was, you know, one of the early ones, before everyone, before Selena, before Haley, like, Kylie was the one who sold her company for a billion dollars. And, like, was the first.
A
The.
B
The first girly of this gen to do it in. In a real big way. And after that, like, bye.
A
I just feel like the hardest part about being in the beauty industry is, like, making good products that people actually need. And they, they actually, they have that.
B
Yeah, their products. Like, I haven't. I don't use all them. I think, like, a lot of their powders are, like, not great. But I like her skin tint. I think her concealers went over really, really well. The packaging's cute. She's, like, scaled back, that, like, hard King Kylie, you know, color, sharp vibes. But I don't know, it's just. She, like, doesn't seem to give a.
A
But. But now she's giving a. And it's with this and, like, that's where, like, now I have a red flag up. Before this, I was like, she's Kylie. She could do what she could care as much as she wants.
B
But now she's crying and it's like, not good.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the vibe. So if you're excited about this, I'm happy for you. None of this did anything for me. And, like. And I love her to bits, right?
B
We're always just, like, waiting for her.
A
To do something and she's like, putting out, you know, the videos and the promo videos and Chris picking her up from jail and I'm good. I'm all set, thanks.
B
Well, let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I help out the swirlies in need. Write to us dear toasters gmail.com or head over to our website, thetostpodcast.com to submit to us what's going on in your life at work. A relationship issue, a family issue, a bridesmaids issue. We cover all issues. We don't really care as long as it's good and interesting. And if your submission has not be read, not been read on air, it might be too long. Feel free to send it in again. But, you know, just the need to know information. But it also might have not been read because it's not interesting. And for that, I actually really can't help you. But congrats. Like, nobody wants interesting problems, you know?
A
So true.
B
Speaking of interesting problems, our first one, I really don't know where to begin. Dear toasters, my parents, who were swingers and previously in a throuple, are now getting divorced. My father has decided to stay with the woman that they were in the throuple with. My father and this woman are trying to plan family events while my parents divorce is not finalized under the false pretense that everything's totally normal. I'm not comfortable with this, but I've had many arguments with my father about how I'm not being fair to him by not accepting this arrangement right now. What would you do in the situation? Attend family events with my father despite my feelings, or stick to my guns and not attend.
A
I'm like, so sorry. I'm sorry you're going through all this. It's really hard for me to like, focus on what you're going through. Like when I'm thinking about your mom, like having her husband left for her for like a woman that she's like, slept with as well.
B
Yeah. Not to be like such a. I just think when you invite this sort of chaos into your home, like, you really can't be shocked when something like this happens. Not at all blaming your mom. So my mind didn't go there. My mind went, if you were in my shoes, like, what would you do? I genuinely, I'm having a hard time putting myself in your shoes. Like, first of all, what goes on to your parents, like, personalize in their bed, really, like, is not your business. And I'm sorry that you even know about this because that's just hard. And I don't think you're crazy for not wanting to hang out with your dad and his new girlfriend, who also used to be your mom's girlfriend, I would stick your guns here. Like, I'm actually speechless.
A
Like, of all, like, the crazy outcomes of this, you know, ill fated relationship, like, you had events, like, it's not registering for me.
B
Yeah.
A
Here's what I'm saying. Okay, but like, seriously, if you don't want to go, don't go like, at these people. Like, actually, I don't want to be judgmental.
B
No, you know what? Actually, I was just on Tick Tock watching Alex Earl. She's posting a lot. So for dedication night, which is tonight, they are dancing, you know, for people who mean a lot to them and explaining. And I thought Alex was going to be dancing with her sister, Ashton. But she's actually dancing with her little sister Isabelle, who was the first kid in their family born after Alex's father cheated on her mother with Ashley Dupre. Very famous situation. He ended up marrying Ashley Dupre after, like, left his wife for Ashley, and then they had children together. And obviously, this was, like, a traumatic thing for Alex. Like, her dad cheated on her mom, left her mom, and she was obviously, like, not ever going to talk to her dad and. And his wife again. Then they had kids, and then that's, like, her half sibling. And so she's dancing for Isabelle because Isabelle, she says, like, really healed her family. Like, the way we always talk about how they're blended family is so crazy. I could never, Like, I literally could never. And she's dancing for her sister Isabelle, because they all loved Isabelle so much. Like, it literally healed the entire family. And we always remark on how mature it is that Alex is so, you know, close with her stepmom and that they include Alex's mom and everything. And they really, like, attributed it to the little sister. So I don't know how that helps this girl.
A
Honestly, it just makes it worse because it's like contending with the fact that your parents are splitting up. Even an affair that's turned into, like, a marriage. Contending with all that's, like, really hard. The throuple piece, it's just kind of like throwing a wrench into everything. But I will say, like, you do you. You know what? At this point, the adults in your life have let you down.
B
It's true.
A
Do what's best for you. You don't owe anyone anything. Yeah. You don't need to cut people off. That's still, like, your family. But, like, if you don't want to go to everything and you don't want to try and make this work, like, you don't have to. You're grown. Do what feels right for you. Don't feel obligated to do all this stuff.
B
And to our listeners, like, if you're ever thinking of getting into, like, some extracurricular marital activities, let this situation just be, like, a lesson of a potential outcome. Is it worth it?
A
Yeah.
B
Next up. Hey, swirlies. I need your take on some major friend group drama. My husband and I have been part of this group for about five years, and a few weeks ago, a saga begun that has us all shook. We were at one of the couple's houses for a pool day. One of the kids slipped on the marble patio. Totally fine. No injuries at all. The dad slash husband in our Group who's known for being a jokester, says, oh, we could sue. Harmless, right? At least that's what we thought. Apparently, the hosts did not think it was funny at all. In fact, they've since hired a lawyer and are now insisting that we all sign a legal waiver before stepping foot back into their home. They claim everyone they ask totally agrees with them. But whenever I ask people, they think, this is absolutely bananas. What do you guys think? Would you ever sign something like this just to keep hanging out at a friend's house? Or is this friendship just toast? Well, how nice is the pool? You know? Like, do you, like, is it really, like, imperative that you get back into this house? Like, whether it just be, like, you have a lot of fun there. And, of course, like, don't just sign it. Have someone look it over, because you never know what they can be making you sign. Like, evaluate, like, how badly do you want to get back into this house? Like, if it's so important to your social life that, like, you be included in this group and that you, like, you love the house so much, then, yeah, I would just figure it out if they're not gonna let up. But it's definitely weird. Like, I'm here to validate you.
A
It's. It's certainly weird. And I guess if it's gonna, like, be detrimental to your life and your joy and your fun, like, sign it, because it's not like you were going to sue anyway if. Even if something did happen. But that's weird. That's where their minds went, and, like, they just couldn't take a joke, and now it's getting all legal. Like, that just is a weird dynamic now. And even if you sign it, it's a weird dynamic. And if you don't sign it, then you're missing out on five years of friendship.
B
Although I do think you and the remaining four couples, like, need to all align. Are you all signing it or are you all not signing it? There's strength in numbers. And where it will get murky is.
A
Like, if certain people sign it, well, then they'll be. No. Like, that just splits the group. Like, because whoever doesn't sign it won't be invited to these events.
B
And then it's, like, not fun anymore. Like, then the group has officially broken up. No.
A
No, it's officially not fun. Officially not fun anymore. Like, well, of course.
B
Yeah, but it's kind of like Jersey Shore. Like, when they all banded together to get paid the same amount per episode when they were renegotiating their contracts. And they end up getting, like, a million dollars an episode. Did they all deserve a million? No, but there's strength in numbers. So I would find out what the crew is doing and, like, all agree to, like, either do something together or not.
A
But also, you never said that, like, this house is, like, the best house out of all the houses. And we can only go, like, how about someone else host?
B
Right. Like, maybe they just isolate themselves. But it sounds like they kind of, like, have a leg to stand on. Like, maybe they have the best house. That was the Bible tile.
A
Yeah.
B
I just want to say the vibe I was getting was, like, rich.
A
Yeah. Like, slip and slide.
B
Right. Outdoor kitchen.
A
Yeah. Summer kitchen, for sure.
B
It's giving. Decked out on the deck.
A
Yeah. You could sign it. I mean, read it. Well, yeah, have someone read it or chat. GPT.
B
Give it to chat.
A
At the very least.
B
Don't waste money. Yeah.
A
At the bend. No, no. Like, if you're not gonna have a lawyer look at it. If you're not going to, like, at least have chat. Look at it. Upload it to chat, but have a lawyer.
B
Okay, this third one is funny. Hi. I'm in a predicament, and I need your advice. I am a gay male toaster, and I recently matched with Artie from Glee on Raya. His name is Kevin McHale. I'm not really interested romantically, but I do want to ask him some questions about the show. Since I was a big fan, how do I proceed without being rude?
A
Okay. I first saw it as, like, maybe you guys connect and you, like, asking these questions, and that could, like, lead to more connection. But if you're really just, like, using him to get answers about Glee, like, if you really don't think that you're open to any sort of connection, like, you can't. Sorry.
B
Yeah.
A
If you're.
B
If you're not open at all to any sort of romantic connection, like, just listen to his podcast. He literally has a podcast where he talks about Glee. I feel like there's actually nothing that's, like, a secret anymore. But if you're even open and if you're such a big Glee fan, like, wouldn't you, like, dep. Like, I feel like you could and should be open to the idea of romantically linking. So I would go on a date with him, like, if it turns out like, that you guys match and whatever. With an open heart and, of course, an open mind of questions.
A
I agree. And I think you can use your questions as, like, a really good icebreaker and segue into learning more about each other. But if you are genuinely not at all like interested and you're just there like a reporter, don't waste his time.
B
Agreed. That's like rude to Kevin Self.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
And also not to make everything about me, I actually did go on his podcast. He literally has a podcast where he like sits down with with fellow gleeks. He like loves when people are invested in the show. So I don't think you would be offending him at all. But again, only if it's like under the guise of like there being potential for something between you two.
A
Yeah.
B
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Hosts: Jackie Oshry & Claudia Oshry
Episode Purpose:
A dynamic Tuesday catch-up episode, as the Oshry sisters reunite after a long weekend to discuss personal updates, celebrity news (notably the passing of Diane Keaton), pop culture headlines, and address listener questions in their signature bantering, comedic style.
This episode celebrates sisterly connection and pop culture obsession as Jackie (in LA) and Claudia dive into their lives, review the cultural news of the day, and answer swirling listener dilemmas. The episode is characterized by playful energy, personal candor about health and body issues, and heartfelt tributes—particularly to the late Diane Keaton. It blends humor and real talk on celebrity, wellness, and relationships, wrapped in their signature inside-jokey, "pargy" lexicon.
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"Pargy" & "Gang" as New Vernacular: Ongoing inside joke about replacing words with “pargy”, e.g., “When in doubt, parge it out.”
Jackie's LA Update:
Prepared Foods & Celebrity Sightings:
Prenatal Massage Experience & Medical Labels:
Relationship Content on Patreon:
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"When in doubt, parge it out." —Jackie [01:20] (Episode title inspiration)
On LA culture:
On Obesity on Medical Forms:
On Diane Keaton:
Kylie Cosmetics Review:
Dear Toasters: Throuple Family:
| Segment | Timestamps | |----------------------------------------------------------|-------------------| | LA Catch-Up, Pargy Vernacular | 00:46 – 06:21 | | Erewhon Review, LA Health Culture | 03:32 – 07:16 | | Prenatal Massage Story & Medical Chart Drama | 07:51 – 12:09 | | Patreon Marriage Advice Teaser | 13:18 – 14:14 | | Diane Keaton Tribute & Filmography | 21:02 – 27:18 | | Taylor Swift Docuseries Announcement | 27:18 – 32:47 | | John Mayer & Cat Stickler Rumors | 32:52 – 35:54 | | Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau Goss, J.Lo Sidetrack | 35:54 – 39:47 | | LC & Kristin Cavallari: “World Peace” | 39:56 – 43:35 | | Kylie Jenner’s King Kylie Collection | 47:46 – 53:19 | | Dear Toasters: Throuple, Pool Waivers, Kevin McHale | 54:15 – 62:59 |
The Oshry sisters’ witty, self-aware banter dominates, blending frank confessions (about weight, wellness, body image) with pop-culture savvy and a comedic “besties on FaceTime” approach. The humor often skewers themselves, each other, celebrities, and publicists with equal glee, but the genuine admiration for icons like Diane Keaton shines through.
This episode is an energetic snapshot of pop culture’s week, filtered through highly personal, comedic commentary. The dynamic between Jackie & Claudia is entertainingly unfiltered, packed with both light-hearted moments and slices of real-life vulnerability on everything from pregnancy to personal criticism, from hot takes on beauty brands to heartfelt celebrity tributes. The “Dear Toasters” advice remains as wild and relatable as ever.
If you love news, nostalgia, and sharp sisterly humor, this is the episode for you.