Girls Trip to Brisborne: Tuesday, June 30th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – Girls Trip to Brisbane: Tuesday, June 30th, 2026

Episode Overview

In this lively pre-holiday installment, Jackie and Claudia (aka “Jackson Claude”) reunite for a swirly, meandering chat ahead of their Fourth of July break. The episode pivots between their recent travels (yes, weddings and weddings-while-momming), plenty of Love Island USA analysis, Bravo news, and viral celeb rumors, mixed with advice from the “Dear Toasters” inbox. True to form, the sisters’ chaotic, honest, and comedic banter is front and center, complete with rants, tough love, and passionate tangents. This episode is especially heavy on pop culture recaps and the art of packing frivolous kitchenware for summer in the Hamptons.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Emotional Weddings & The Mom Perspective

• Jackie and Claudia reflect on attending weddings since becoming mothers, focusing on the emotional depth of Jewish traditions and post-partum feelings.
  • [00:53] Jackie: "I've always been that person crying at weddings... There's something distinctly beautiful about the traditions, the cheva brachas. It's a timeless... these things have survived generations."
  • [02:29] Jackie: “At a Jewish wedding, they always bring up the Holocaust because, like, somebody under the chupa is related to a Holocaust survivor... I was literally still breastfeeding, so I was so postpartum. I definitely cried, like, the whole time.”
  • Both hosts note how being a mom amplifies the emotion at weddings: “As a mom, I’m just like—you just must be so proud of these wonderful children that you’ve raised.” – Jackson Claude [03:01]

2. Swirlitude & Wicked Characters

• A lively debate about which characters from Wicked possess “swirlitude” and what this quality represents.
  • [05:14] Claudia: “On the one hand, Glinda, taking it at face value... obviously she’s a girly girl... However, we do have the elk of Elphaba in us. Just a little bit renegade, you know, truth tellers.”
  • [05:44] Jackie: “Swirly is an aesthetic, but it’s more so like a state of mind... Actually not one person at the entire university possesses swirlitude.”
  • [06:01] Resolution: Both agree Glinda and Elphaba have toaster qualities, hence swirlitude.

3. Love Island USA Breakdown

• A major portion is dedicated to recent Love Island USA drama, with both hosts sharply critiquing contestants and production decisions.

  • [07:08] Jackie: “Don’t you feel like the last two episodes of Love Island, like, both could have been an email?”
  • They dissect the Megan Thee Stallion challenge:
    • [07:38] Jackie: “It never ended. It was so stupid... Why are we watching boys throw cake in the faces of women? And that’s meant to be empowering?”
    • [08:11] “That challenge was normalizing domestic violence... 1,000% just turned behavior. The show is disgusting.” – Jackie

• Character and contestant analysis, including criticism of young men's dating behavior and women’s choices on the show:

  • [09:46] Jackie: “Not one girl has made a good decision this entire show... I will say, this has been definitely a window into the mind of young men right now. And they are, like, legitimately evil.”
  • [10:16] Claudia: “Maybe, like, back in our day, they were like, fuck boys and they never said anything other than that, but that’s what they were. Now it’s like, say something sincere, like acts like a life coach, and then he’s just, like, going to ruin your life coach.”
  • Extended analysis of recoupling choices, Kenzie’s wandering loyalty, Sincere's duplicity, plus passionate defenses of certain cast members and tough love for others.

4. Summer House & Bravo Recap

• Discussion of Amanda Batula leaving Summer House and speculation about the future of both Summer House and other Bravo shows:
  • [20:16] Claudia: “I heard a lot of people aren’t returning... pretty much all the new people...”
  • [21:14] Jackie: “I feel like this show sounds boring... It’s really reminding me of Vanderpump Rules... we got one or two good seasons out of it.”
  • [22:51] Claudia: “Maybe after Love Island, ask me again and after the summer, because I want to enjoy my summer... like, no one really stuck out to me.”

5. Celebrity & Viral Rumors

• Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce wedding rumors—dissecting vendor Instagram posts and the logistics of a supposed Madison Square Garden event:
  • [29:51] Jackie: “I just want to say none of this means anything to me. If anyone is actually a contracted vendor for Taylor’s wedding, they ain’t posted Instagram stories about it that night. Ok, so I’m sorry, no.”
  • [33:07] Jackie: “I’m so excited. Like, this is huge.” (regarding NYC street closures for July 3rd)
• Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi’s ‘incognito’ airport appearance in Brisbane – skepticism about their ability to go unnoticed and their relationship’s intrigue factor.
  • [39:32] Jackie: “I mean, they’re giants, both of them. So they’re gonna be spotted... I don’t think celebrities, like, really can fly private to Australia, right?”
  • [41:24] Jackie: “I just want to say I feel like he’s not a good boyfriend. Just based on vibes.”

6. Packing for Summer and Life in the Hamptons

• Discussion of ridiculous yet relatable summer prep, including bringing kitchenware and skincare to the Hamptons:
  • [13:07] Claudia: “I did pack my Dutch oven. Do you want to hear why?... We need a Dutch oven in the Hamptons. What if we want a chili or a cassoulet?”
  • [14:03] Jackie: “Well, the stars are aligned because Jackson Claude are back together again.”

7. Dear Toasters: Advice Segment Highlights

• Hair Disaster with a Sensitive Sister-in-law: [64:57]
  • “Go fix it... you don’t have to have ugly hair to protect someone’s feelings.” – Claudia
  • “Get your hair fixed. We’ll figure everything else out later.” – Jackie
• Mother-in-law Gives Daughter Unwanted Haircut: [66:47]
  • “This woman is not your friend.” – Jackie
  • “You could take her again for the day when the hair grows back out... that’s when that privilege is resumed.” – Claudia
• Marital Sexting Dilemma: [68:49]
  • “Once a week is a lot... we have a lot going on as women and mothers and now we’re also pen pals.” – Claudia

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Whether you like it or not, you can rot in hell.” – Jackie [06:38], on delivering the truth.
• “That challenge was normalizing domestic violence. Like, dead ass. That was crazy.” – Jackie [08:11], on Love Island’s Megan Thee Stallion challenge.
• “Boys are, you know, boys will be boys... now it’s like, say something sincere, act like a life coach, and then he’s just, like, going to ruin your life coach.” – Claudia [10:16], on changing male dating behavior.
• “These are the types of things where, when people think they can get away with them, they build… next thing you know, we’re getting tramp stamps next summer…” – Jackie [68:36], on drawing boundaries.
• “Think of the polar bears. They’ll understand. You’re a woman doing what a woman has to do.” – Claudia [71:32], on using AI for marital sexting.

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Weddings & Mom Emotions: [00:53] – [03:18]
• Swirlitude & Wicked Debate: [05:14] – [06:38]
• Love Island USA Deep Dive: [07:08] – [61:58] (recoupling, challenges, personalities, social media controversies)
• Summer House / Bravo Recap & Speculation: [20:16] – [28:14]
• Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce Wedding Rumors: [28:43] – [33:17]
• Packing for the Hamptons & Summer Essentials: [13:07] – [14:03]
• Celebrity Couples & Pop Gossip: [39:10] – [43:54]
• Advice Segment (Dear Toasters): [63:24] – [71:53]

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a quintessential slice of Toast: a blend of real-life relatability, unfiltered hot takes on pop culture, honest debates, crackling humor, and heartfelt advice. Whether you’re invested in Love Island drama, intrigued by rumors of a secret Taylor Swift wedding, or looking for sisterly wisdom about in-law oversteps, Jackie and Claudia serve it up with their signature “swirlitude.” Highly engaging for regulars and new listeners alike—just don’t expect succinct answers to pop culture’s life-or-death questions!

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Transcript

[Jackson Claude]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Jackie]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackson Claude]

The best five things you need to know.

[Jackie]

We'll start your day off.

[Jackson Claude]

Swirly.

[Jackie]

It's the Toast.

[Jackson Claude]

They sound amazing.

[Jackie]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday, because, girl, we're back. Let me tell you, everyone loved yesterday's episode and I'm so glad. But, like, I've never worked so hard

[Jackson Claude]

on the ones and twos.

[Jackie]

I've never worked so hard in my whole life. Like, I just. Yeah, this to me, is not work. We have a balance doing both the ads and the stories. Like, it's just. Try being an influencer for a day. You guys try it.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I'm back. Thank you for holding it down. We really missed you. I miss.

[Jackie]

So good to have you back.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, thank you. Thank you. Yes. Back home, we were in Dallas for the weekend. Took a co journey, went to a beautiful wedding. Have you gone to a wedding since being a mom?

[Jackie]

That's a great question, Claudia.

[Jackson Claude]

It's too much.

[Jackie]

Wait, let me think for real.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't think that you have, because I was trying to think if you have. If you've had this experience that, like, I had of going to a wedding and being a mom and like, it's just so.

[Jackie]

Yes, I have. Oh, who? Margo?

[Jackson Claude]

Our friend Margot.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Margot.

[Jackson Claude]

It's just so emotional.

[Jackie]

I agree.

[Jackson Claude]

It's so.

[Jackie]

I've always been.

[Jackson Claude]

And as a emotional person, postpartum woman, like, of course. It's just too much for me to be at, like, such a beautiful. It was like such a beautiful Jewish wedding. It was meant to be in Israel. We were going to go to Israel for it. Instead they brought Israel to Dallas. It's just. It was so beautiful. I want to say mazel tub to the bride and groom. Thank you so much for having us. Like, I was so moved by the whole thing. I'm really too emotional to go to a wedding right now. I can't even listen to you describe Orbiter.

[Jackie]

I.

[Jackson Claude]

How can I go to a wedding? Listen to Bowie call. I can't do it.

[Jackie]

I have always been like, that person crying at weddings. Like, I think that weddings. And I just want to say this is out of slight to anyone else, is not a supremacist statement. Like, don't look into what I'm saying. But I don't know if I've really ever been to a wedding that wasn't a Jewish wedding. But I imagine if I did I wouldn't be as emotional. There is something distinctly beautiful about the traditions, the cheva brachas. Like, it is so. And it's like a. It's a timeless. They've been doing this.

[Jackson Claude]

You know, these things have survived generations.

[Jackie]

The Holocaust. You know, at a Jewish wedding, they always bring up the Holocaust because, like, somebody under the chupa is related to a Holocaust survivor. And let me tell you, like, I'm always the girl crying. So I. I think the first wedding I went to, I was literally still breastfeeding, so I was so postpartum. I definitely cried, like, the whole time.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No, it's just every. There's such a triumph, you know, And I'm sure everybody feels that way about their own religion and culture and their wedding and, like, feeling so attach. Attached to it. And so that's just how I felt at this one. And at most. And it was just. It was so beautiful. And honestly, it's hard to go as a mother, even, like, all the speeches.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

As a mom, I'm just like. You just must be so proud of these wonderful children that you've raised.

[Jackie]

Well, I'm glad you had a good time because, like, we suffered here without you. So at least it wasn't for nothing.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it wasn't for nothing. And we're about to swirl it up this summer so, like, we could go one day apart. We could.

[Jackie]

This is gonna be a true Nalafi. Today's our final episode of the week. So let's take our time. Let's, let's.

[Jackson Claude]

You know, let's not be thoughtless and final for me.

[Jackie]

Let's not be thoughtless little pigs. You know, I would have a thoughtful episode. We've got Love Island. Recap. We've got Dear Toes.

[Jackson Claude]

I was actually supposed to get a facial, like, after we record today, but she just canceled, so I'm sort of, like, free as a bird. Yeah, I have some reading to do. We're recording redheads today. I have to finish the book, which I can't. I'll have enough time to finish it, but that's really it. So. Yeah, I'm free to chit chat.

[Jackie]

Okay, let's do it.

[Jackson Claude]

Let's do it. What else can I tell you about my co. Journey? Well, I feel like I had this, you know, such a. A whirlwind. Last you saw me, I was in Dallas in hd.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I forgot that you podcasted from Dallas, so it hasn't been, like, that long.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it has. It was just one show that I missed, but I also feel like I haven't caught up with you, like, on Facebook. Oh, and also, the best part about this wedding, additionally, was I was sitting at a table of all toasters. Dream it was exclusively toasters. I don't know if, like, the bride did that intentionally so, like, we could

[Jackie]

all get swirly so you can conduct a meet and greet at the affair.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And then, like, the toasters were at the table. Like, we're texting, like, their fellow toasters and who they knew were toasters in the room. Like, it just became like a jizz.

[Jackie]

No, it's unfortunate. Whatever. That's like, as big celebrities, sometimes people don't invite us to their weddings because we do sort of take the attention away from the bride.

[Jackson Claude]

No, we did in that. Oh, we were just like in the corner being swirly.

[Jackie]

That happens to me a lot. I'm. I'm constantly not getting invited places and

[Jackson Claude]

I met so many great. The toasters are fantastic.

[Jackie]

You know, I never had a bad toaster in my life.

[Jackson Claude]

And that's why, like, I love to be at a table with toasters, because it's just gonna be like, you know, girls have the same elk.

[Jackie]

Actually, speaking of swirlitude, we post a sort of an interesting question on the toast yesterday that I would love to get your. Your take on. Okay, we. Which character from Wicked do you think possesses the most swirlitude?

[Jackson Claude]

On the one hand, Glinda. Taking it at face value, you know, obviously she's a girly girl, as are we. However, we do have the Elk of Elphaba in us. Just a little bit renegade, you know, truth tellers.

[Jackie]

So Ben.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I think, and we had this conversation once, like, who are we in Wicked?

[Jackie]

Yeah, but that's not the question.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but like, I think we speak to a Glinda and an Alphabet. Like, there is both. There's both.

[Jackie]

So Ben was like, obviously Glinda, but Ben was looking at it from such like a one dimensional POV because she, like, wears pink. Yes. Like, swirly is an aesthetic, but it's more so like a state of mind and a characteristic. And I made the argument that actually not one person at the entire university possesses swirlitude.

[Jackson Claude]

Not one person.

[Jackie]

Not one. Certainly not Nessa Rose.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think that both Glinda and Elphaba. This is it. Glinda and Elphaba are both toasters and that's how they connect. Like, that's why even though they seem so different, they actually can be friends because of, like, this commonality in their personalities that allows them to be toasters. And allows them to be friends. Yes.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I agree. Alphabet and Glinda are both toasters. 1,000%, like, done.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Maybe like Glinda comes to Jizno and Elphaba is more of like a closet listener. But I know that she can relate

[Jackie]

to our truth telling ways because I think about us. We're gonna tell the truth.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And nothing but the truth.

[Jackie]

Whether you like it or not, you can rot in hell.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And I did catch up on all my Love Island. You know, going to a wedding, a three day wedding weekend, and being active watcher of Love Island.

[Jackie]

It's very destabilizing.

[Jackson Claude]

It's not an easy thing. And I. So last night when I came home, I had to watch two episodes. So I watched like one and a half and then I finished the second one while I did my makeup this morning with Granny the cook. Actually, I was really grateful I had a little stand for my I. But I got rid of her.

[Jackie]

We're the last.

[Jackson Claude]

So back for the last episode of the week.

[Jackie]

Don't you feel like the last two episodes of Love island, like, both could have been an email

[Jackson Claude]

about love? Like, actually, you know what? What's funny is the first three weeks of Love island up until Cosmore, could have been an email. Yes. Now that we're in it a little more. Like, the conversations are conversating a little more. Like we're saying some stuff. Like, more than we were before. You know, two people sit down to have a conversation and it's not like pulling teeth. What are we going to talk about?

[Jackie]

Right. But like, the Megan the Stallion challenge did not need to be 45 minutes long. Like, it never ended.

[Jackson Claude]

No. It was so stupid. And like, again, why is Megan the Stallion? And I loved her presence and I think she, like, really uplifted the villa and they needed that because everyone was desperately sort of, for lack of a better term, crashing out. And they needed that, like, confidence boost and that energy. And I think she brought that. But, like, again, why are we watching boys throw cake in the faces of women? And that's meant to be empowering. And Megan the stallion's overseeing it and letting us know that that's how we're going to feel better and. And release all of this tension.

[Jackie]

I ended up on like, woke island talk and somebody said, and you know what? Like, not me being woke, was I. Because I agreed with her. That challenge was normalizing domestic violence. Like, dead ass. That was crazy. 1,000% just turned behavior. The show is disgusting. Like, oh. And what was humiliating Was that I played majong last night and I was like, you guys, I will come, but I have to watch Love Island. So, like, we played and it was on in the background. And so there was one girl at the table who watched and then two girls who didn't. Like, I was genuinely humiliated to. They have no idea what the show is. So, like, what's this show?

[Jackson Claude]

At least it wasn't one with a challenge.

[Jackie]

I know. I was at the. At worst, they just thought it was boring. Like, you just watch these people talk. I'm like, yeah, so at worst it was boring, but I was like, please, please don't do a challenge. Like, because I would have been humiliated in front of my friends.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, thank God for that. Thank God for that. So, yeah, we're out of casa. Recoupled. Tonight's movie night.

[Jackie]

We will do a recap of the last, like, two or three episodes because you and I haven't discussed even the recoupling. So that will be in the Love island recap. We also have Dear toasters, how are the stories? Anaya, in the words of Tiffany Pollard, it's hard to watch her be so dumb.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. And like, who did you vote for to come back from casa?

[Jackie]

Okay, so I didn't vote.

[Jackson Claude]

You didn't exercise your rights?

[Jackie]

I didn't. I forget. Oh, because it was on Friday night and I turned my phone off.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Jackie]

And obviously I was fighting for amor because, like, we needed the truth teller Amora to come. And I was like, you know, I was not. I was. I knew everyone was going to bring back Carl and I was not down.

[Jackson Claude]

No. I would have brought back Corey for Melanie.

[Jackie]

I literally would have brought. I would have brought back Ronnie for Jen. Like, it's just every. Not one girl has made a good decision this entire show. Like, and I hate to blame the women, but I just have higher expectations. I will say, like, this has been definitely a window into the mind of young men right now. And they are, like, legitimately evil. Like a lot of these guys. The behavior from G last night, sinister this entire season, it's been very alarming, actually, at what young. How young men interact in relationships. He says, I could never be a 21 year old girl right now.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, seriously, I think that, like, boys are, you know, boys will be boys. They're acting the way. No, no, that's like. I was just saying that they're acting the way that guys have always acted. Right. In terms of action. The difference is the way that they speak now and they say things the opposite of what they're doing. Maybe, like, back in our day, they were like, fuck boys. And they. And they never said anything other than that, but that's who they were. And what you saw was what you get. Now it's like saying sincere, like, acts like a life coach, and then he's just, like, going to ruin your life coach.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Right. Wait, let's save all of this for the TV recap. And then I want to tell you one more thing before we dive into the stories. Guess what I saw on the street yesterday? Let me. I'll give you a clue. What holiday weekend is it? The Fourth of July.

[Jackson Claude]

Kelly Ripa.

[Jackie]

I saw Kelly Ripa. Let me tell you something. I got scared. I was like, hopefully she doesn't know about the Kelly's mindless zoo segment. She was minding her own business. She looked so insane. Like, she looked so gorgeous. Skin tight.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

She was wearing a hat, like, a cutesy little outfit because it was a thousand degrees. She looked like a real celebrity, you know, like a glamorous woman. And she wasn't even wearing, like, a ton of makeup or, like, a dress. She just looked glamorous.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, that's beautiful. I don't feel ready for Fourth of July. Like, it's coming on too hard, too fast. Like, I need some more time. You know, this is a big weekend. Maybe I'm America 250. And then, like, all the America 250 festivities over after Fourth of July.

[Jackie]

Maybe. Maybe this will get you in the mood. Okay. And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the man who died who gave that right to me. And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today. Cause there ain't no doubt. I love this lady. And God bless the usa.

[Jackson Claude]

Claudia, that's.

[Jackie]

You feel ready? You feel ready?

[Jackson Claude]

Like, no, but I. I appreciate the

[Jackie]

effort, but you're closer.

[Jackson Claude]

I guess so. I don't know. It's just like a whirlwind week.

[Jackie]

I know. Swirly.

[Jackson Claude]

And I want to, like. I want to savor the. Maybe I'll feel the energy. Like, when we get to the Hamptons. It's very, like.

[Jackie]

Yes. Very Americana.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. I brought an American flag plate.

[Jackie]

You're packing a plate?

[Jackson Claude]

I. I plaqued a serving platter. I did.

[Jackie]

That's insane.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I packed it in my car that was shipped out, so that's better. I. But I packed a couple cookware. But I got such cute, like, American flag stuff from Rifle Paper co. And I was like, I need this for Fourth of July. Let me bring it to the Hamptons.

[Jackie]

Okay, that's crazy, but I understand the method.

[Jackson Claude]

I actually packed a lot. Like, I actually did pack a plate separate from the serving platter and a couple bowls and. And my Dutch oven.

[Jackie]

You packed your Dutch oven?

[Jackson Claude]

I did pack my Dutch oven. Do you want to hear why? You want to hear the thinking? My facial is canceled, so I could tell you. Okay, so we need a Dutch oven in the Hamptons. What if we want a chili or a cassoulet? We just. We always need a Dutch oven. We're always, like, running to TJ Maxx to find one. And I actually just got, like, all new Le Creuset they gifted me because, you know, my color is being retired. Shallot.

[Jackie]

Shallot.

[Jackson Claude]

So they gifted me, like, a bunch of product. Dutch ovens, et cetera. But I have a Dutch oven, so I didn't open any of those yet. And once I open the new ones, I'm not really gonna use, like, my old blue. So I was like, instead of. Why don't I bring it to the Hamptons, retire it there, and then instead of having to buy, like, a cheap

[Jackie]

one, we'll have a retirement ceremony for the old blue Leckers.

[Jackson Claude]

And so, like, my car was being shipped. So, yeah, throw in a Dutch oven.

[Jackie]

Whatever. Or whatever. What the hell?

[Jackson Claude]

And I are aligned. Lish and I are aligned on this.

[Jackie]

Okay, that's good. Yes, that's good.

[Jackson Claude]

We're in alignment.

[Jackie]

Well, the stars are aligned because Jackson Claude are back together again. And I feel as though it's time to dive into Love Island. To dive into Dear Toasters and the fast five stories. What do you say?

[Jackson Claude]

I say sure. Without further ado, da do da do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you to do need to know.

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

Thank you, Turd Wide.

[Jackie]

You're welcome.

[Jackson Claude]

Our first story, Amanda Batula is leaving summer house after 10 seasons in the wake of controversy. So, yeah, Amanda Betula will not be returning for season 11 of Summer House. Variety has learned.

[Jackie]

I heard a lot of people aren't returning. I don't know if this was true or not. It was just like a rumor circulating that also not returning are pretty much all the new people. K.J. dara, Ben. Okay, maybe that was it.

[Jackson Claude]

Bailey.

[Jackie]

No, she's there.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. K.J. dara.

[Jackie]

Bailey was great.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Like, so that's. That makes sense.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And Sierra and Lindsay are operating in the same capacity, but they're, like, not full time, but they're, like, popular. Featured. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Kyle.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Where'd you see all this Threads?

[Jackie]

Did I tell you I redownloaded threads? That's like, where everything. Summer House on Love island goes down?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, sorry.

[Jackie]

I needed to do it for my work.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, go ahead.

[Jackie]

Now, I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but this show sounds boring, and it's really reminding me of Vanderpump Rules. Except with Vanderpump Rules, everybody filmed. So, like, we got another, like, one or two good seasons out of it because everyone, like, was dealing with the fallout from that. I know we had to fire them. Like, I know they're bad, evil people, but, like, I kind of want to see what they're up to.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And, like, if their relationship is sort of struggling, which I feel like it is.

[Jackie]

You do? Jamais said that, like, somebody overheard them in a bar saying, I love you, but, like, that's too much.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. I feel like. I feel like it. They're having a hard time. I don't think it's, like, amazing. And it would be interesting television and watching them, like, try to, you know, build back friendships.

[Jackie]

And by the way, it's entirely possible that they weren't aspect or that they didn't want to come back. I think, like, Wes maybe. But I think maybe Amanda's, like, had enough. I don't know. I don't know whose call it was. I don't really care. All I know is, like, the cast that was introduced to me sounded boring. As hell. Like, I feel like it's back where we're at. The show got this huge bump, this nation national platform and it's like, okay, we cut over all the like, interesting bits out and now we're just left with the same cast we've had for the last 10 years.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, this wouldn't have been like my call, as I said, but I feel like I'm always on the opposite side of like, what?

[Jackie]

Unless on in the City.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, yeah, but so is Kyle.

[Jackie]

No, but I need a Mandan west somewhere. Sorry.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, crazy. I know. I'm in the Summer House. I can't take on in the City. I'm sorry, I just can't.

[Jackie]

So funny because last night at mahjong, my friend Rachel was like, are you watching in the City? And I was like, no. And she was like, what? Like, it. I just, I can't. Like, between Love Island, I have a full time job.

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe after Love island asked me again and after the summer, because I want to enjoy my summer being introduced to

[Jackie]

all these new people. Like, no one. I watched the first two episodes. Nobody really stuck out to me. And I'm not. I'm actually at a place right now with my Bravo people. Like, I can't take on new Bravo liberties. Like, I'm still dealing with the ones that I currently have.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. So just because they're going to in the City, I don't know, like, how much that means, like, I'll watch Summer House, but I don't. I think that's about it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. This just sounds boring. Like, when I saw the lineup, Jesse was back. Like, it was a good show before West Mandible. Like, it was a fine show. It wasn't super popular. Like, actually no, it was. It was popular, but it wasn't, you know, the thing everyone was talking about. And now it is. And we're removing the element of why people are talking about it. Like, I get it, we want Sierra back and Sierra would never film with them. But I don't think Sierra should be back on the show. I think she's graduated. I think it was the best thing that they could have done for her. Yeah. Go on to do Dancing with the Stars and spend your summers in Fiji and let them, you know, let them take over this. Like what I think now is a show that's beneath Sierra, what's bad. And maybe like Jesse, maybe the other castmates don't want to film with them. Not just Sierra, maybe, but I don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

I think Jesse could forgive Wes. It's just going to take time and. And thought. But it's like now that if he's not on the show anymore, like, will they all still.

[Jackie]

Are they still doing Ozark?

[Jackson Claude]

Are they still doing what?

[Jackie]

Ozark.

[Jackson Claude]

Then there's, you know, the. The rumors are about, like, that everyone's talking about Ozark. But no, it's like if they went back on the show, Jesse and Wes would eventually be friends again because they would film together, they would have a lot of conversations, they would finally talk. And it's like, if he doesn't go back on the show, I guess that's it on their friendship because, like, who's gonna put all that much energy into something if you're not being filmed?

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I actually think that the damage done to their friendship is, like, more than we think. Yeah. I mean, I feel like Jesse's done.

[Jackson Claude]

Jesse's.

[Jackie]

Me at a wedding.

[Jackson Claude]

Cancer.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Literally. Yeah. I think it's worse than we even know because it's not like the main point of this whole scandal. Like, it's a subplot.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. It's very sad. So. Okay, they've made their choice.

[Jackie]

Also, Sierra is currently on after sun. And I just want to say I feel like. I know she had to take the job when they offered it to her, but I feel like in hindsight.

[Jackson Claude]

And it's a huge platform.

[Jackie]

No, it's a huge. It's a huge platform, but I think in hindsight is kind of a bad call because first of all, I don't know if you saw. They're like getting backlash. And it's just like the Love island fans are so mentally ill that, like, no matter who does it, like, it's not a reflection on their performance. Like, you're just gonna get hate. They're getting a lot of hate. I think it's kind of taken her out of the world because she's on the other side of the globe. It's taking her out of the world for like two months where it's like opportunities, events, campaigns that she can't do. When she was like, had a lot of this momentum from the reunion, and I just feel like she couldn't have known it, but it's like this once a week show that nobody watches, and the people that do hate it and they hate the host and they send them death threats. Like, her and Teffy are like, on threads begging for their lives. Like. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it was a bad call.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But I also think that there's obviously going to Be crazy. People who, like, take it so personally and are mad. I found it crazy that they were responding to people.

[Jackie]

Oh, me too.

[Jackson Claude]

That's like, you're on tv. Like, they're in their basement. Like, you don't.

[Jackie]

Jackie, they're literally on an island, like, with nothing else to do. That's what I mean. I don't think it's good for her.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I haven't seen all of what's being said, and I don't, like, I. I don't even know what they've done.

[Jackie]

There's not even, like, one criticism. People are like, you're siding with the girls too much. Other people, you're starting with the guys too much. People saying that, like, they just, you know, regurgitate things they see on Tick Tock. And it's like, okay, doesn't everyone do that? Like, it's just.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but I, I. When you are a host and this is like, a Being lost, but, like, you're meant to just host. Like. Yeah. You're not taking sides. You're not, like, the personality.

[Jackie]

And then I also heard that the two of them are, like, bickering a lot, really. Infighting within the host. Yeah. I saw, like, an awkward clip.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, that is awkward. Because last I saw them in the challenge, they were like, besties, you know, three weeks already.

[Jackie]

They're also getting Stockholm syndrome. Like, they're.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, that's really awkward. But no, like, you don't need to have, like, a ton of personality to be a host.

[Jackie]

To be a host.

[Jackson Claude]

Just moderate, like.

[Jackie]

And actually, when you have a lot of personality as a host, I actually think that is a detriment to your hosting abilities.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. And that seems to not be what people are hiring for anymore.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

But I think it's a better way of hosting it and let the, you know, the story speak for itself.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Just stay out of the way. I don't know what they're doing and how much personality they're injecting, but, like, a decent amount.

[Jackie]

I felt that way during the challenge, too. Like, they were kind of stepping on each other to, like, get a joke in.

[Jackson Claude]

It was a lot. It was like.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, it was a lot.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, you know, it's because they were

[Jackie]

finally, like, getting a chance on the main show. Like, they had to. This was their big opportunity. I get it. I would have done the same exact thing.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Like, you're at such, like, a high level of, like.

[Jackie]

And how many people you think watch an episode, a given episode of Love Island A couple million it's huge.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

For both of them.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. No, they would have never said no. But, like, I mean, nothing's ever going to be completely smooth sailing.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I just feel like a lot of the wind behind her from the scandal and then like all the campaigns, it has sort of fizzled a little bit because she's just sort of been taking out of the equation by living in Fiji for the summer.

[Jackson Claude]

Just wait for Dancing with the Stars. And also like, she's there, what, six weeks.

[Jackie]

Wait, July 4th is when summer house starts. So what she's gonna miss, like the first month?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, but she's a Lindsay.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but like, that's a lot of time to miss.

[Jackson Claude]

She'll miss like the first two or three weekends.

[Jackie]

Oh, really? Is that it?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, because it ended in July.

[Jackie]

Oh, thank God.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. They keep saying it's been three weeks, so we've got probably two and a half more weeks.

[Jackie]

Can't come soon enough.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Next story learned this Wedding Patrol top wedding gurus post is sparking speculation that Taylor and Travis are already married. So the person who was.

[Jackie]

Oh, really?

[Jackson Claude]

The person who was rumored to be Taylor Swift's wedding planner and designer, which I feel like was like pretty much all but confirmed, his name is Rishi. He posted this on Instagram. Today I asked 23 of my colleagues if when they started in the event industry span of seven to 45 years that they would have ever dreamed or imagined they would be a part of what we created today. Unanimously, the answer was no. That in itself means more than I can ever explain. I can't wait to share what we created. But for now, I'm just eternally grateful for those who mean more to me than I could ever explain. Then also someone else posted. Samantha Roberts, who owns a social media agency known for its strategic orchestration of wedding release rollouts, creating digital moments that rebel across the Internet. She posted tonight was a career highlight. Fifteen years ago, I came to New York because I loved events. I dreamed that one day I'd work events like the one I did tonight.

[Jackie]

And then I don't think Taylor hired a social media strategy firm for her wedding.

[Jackson Claude]

Just saying, well, she might, like, do content wedding content.

[Jackie]

Like she has a whole production company. She's not hiring some random wedding vendor. I just want to say none of this means anything to me. If anyone is actually a contracted vendor for Taylor's wedding, they ain't posted Instagram stories about it that night. Ok, so I'm sorry, no.

[Jackson Claude]

So the social media girl tagged a couple of people, including wedding Planning guru Marcy Blum. But Marcy Blum says that this was not for Taylor and Travis, but rather a fabulous summer party for her favorite client.

[Jackie]

Yeah, of course, this is not Marcy Blum. Like, Marcy Blah. No. You guys.

[Jackson Claude]

So what do you think about Rishi's post?

[Jackie]

So Rishi has not been confirmed, but hasn't been denied. I think he's potentially. I think maybe he does a lot of, like, really insane events, and perhaps this was just one of them.

[Jackson Claude]

Also,

[Jackie]

as of this moment, like, trucks are being loaded into Madison Square Garden. Like, the event is. If it is in the Garden, whatever. It is actively being set up now.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I don't know what the hell they accomplished.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I. When I read.

[Jackie]

Or, Or, or, or all of this is, you know, a part of the strategy.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, no, I don't think when I read Rishi's post, I didn't immediately think, oh, they are already married.

[Jackie]

I thought, oh, the venue is set up like that.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, they had an amazing day of setup.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Except, like, fresh flowers are not getting married till Friday. Why would you have the flowers installed on a Monday?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Especially with no, like, lighter air and.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, major weddings, like sub weddings, they set up in the morning sometimes. Major weddings, two days, like maybe three. It's a little early for flowers.

[Jackson Claude]

They could have had like a. An event, A wedding event. You know, there's lots of welcome party, rehearsal dinner.

[Jackie]

What's so exciting is that, like, this time next week, we should just know a lot more. And that's exciting. I am also, like, I saw more fueling the MSG July 3rd theory, which is like the one and only theory. And it's either just like totally true or totally not true. But there are a lot of street closures within the Madison Square Garden region, similar to how they did for the NBA championships, where it's like. It's like a bubble. You can't get in past 9th Avenue and you can't get in past 33rd Street. So there is, like, there was a permit to have those streets closed.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Which is insane. That really speaks to her level of fame. Like, celebrities get married all the time. They don't shut down, like, huge streets in the biggest city in the world in the most dense by Penn Station, like, multiple days.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, those streets are closed right now or.

[Jackie]

No, July 3rd just.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Jackie]

It's insane. They literally did that for the first time ever for the NBA championships. They don't do that. Like, that's crazy. Unless, like, the president.

[Jackson Claude]

I remember what bridge had shut down the street.

[Jackie]

She shut down one street in soho where, like, this cobblestone, nobody could even drive.

[Jackson Claude]

She shut down the street.

[Jackie]

You can Dior. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

You can shut down the street.

[Jackie]

You can. You can't shut down a neighborhood. She's shutting down probably like eight blocks, according to the permits filed by the New York city department.

[Jackson Claude]

For July 3rd.

[Jackie]

For July 3rd.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Jackie]

I'm so excited. Like, this is huge.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, huge. Yeah, I'm excited too. I'm ready to know more. I guess the next show we do, like, we will know something.

[Jackie]

Oh, that's so true. The next show we do.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Watch this.

[Jackie]

What a thrillifying tale I've been listening to the wicked Tony. Oh, a Thrill of Fighting Tale.

[Jackson Claude]

That's a good one.

[Jackie]

It is.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't have that one.

[Jackie]

Tony's. Oh, I'll bring it to the Hamptons. You don't know about the Thrill of buying Tale of Alphabet. The woman who narrated is annoying. Like, is annoying.

[Jackson Claude]

She's just jealous.

[Jackie]

A thousand percent. Like, I need. I know all. First of all, Hugh Laurie for Gerald the Giraffe. Do you have that one?

[Jackson Claude]

No. Gerald of can't dance.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Gerald the Giraffe. Hugh Laurie does that. Tony is Tony. Giraffes can't dance, you silly fool. Oh, Gerald, don't be soft. He's so crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, are you ready for our next story?

[Jackie]

I guess.

[Jackson Claude]

Secret Lives. Mormon Wives star Layla Taylor comes out as bisexual on Jay Shetty. So Layla Taylor sat down with Jay Shetty to announce that she's bisexual. She said, I'm gay and I'm bi and I date women and men. She divulged it during the conversation that she's currently talking to a woman who kicked off their romance by liking one of her Instagram photos, but she did not say who. She called the mysterious woman emotionally aware and very patient. She's been very understanding and letting me take this all at my own pace because it's still just so foreign to me and so new. So she did a wide ranging interview that I have not seen. No, the highlight is that she has shared that she is bisexual and then she's, you know, dating a woman now.

[Jackie]

Pargie. That's great. That's really great. I feel like Layla from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I don't know, I just feel like, so unmoved by her. Do you know what I mean? Like, this is honestly really big news. Like, the Secret Lives of More Wives has their first lgbtq, like, cast member. Like, it's big news. I don't know what first. Anyways, like. Okay. I don't know. That's great. Like, that's really great. What's. What's next, you know, like.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

She just like, hasn't really made an impact on the show in a meaningful way yet. Yeah, I think a few of the girls, actually. No, pretty much everyone. Macy hasn't really like made like a huge impact, but she shared a lot and she's like.

[Jackson Claude]

She has people love.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

People really.

[Jackie]

I do like her. I take that worry. I was just trying not to like single out Layla.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie]

But she's like the only one who's also wasn't always a full time cast member. She was like a friend of sort of vibe and she worked her way up. I don't know. I just.

[Jackson Claude]

So maybe this is like part of the reason why it felt like she hasn't made me.

[Jackie]

She's like holding back.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And like not being her full self.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So I'm, I'm happy for her.

[Jackie]

Don't you feel like Jay Shetty is like really like leveled up recently?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Do you see all of his, like, promotional materials where, like, if someone comes on, they do like a slow mo video and they sit down and it says Jay Shetty looks like Vogue. Like, do you see that thing?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I saw like the Vogue looking thing. Yeah. But I also feel like his guests have been like very, you know, relevant.

[Jackie]

Swirly.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Which I like. And I think he's like, we need a, A swirly avenue like him where it's like serious conversations, you know, not just like tea or whatever.

[Jackie]

Yeah, right. You know, I went on Jay Shetty.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. And I feel like that's like sort of inspired everyone else too.

[Jackie]

Jackie, I think you need to go on.

[Jackson Claude]

No.

[Jackie]

Would you ever. You like, don't open up, like have

[Jackson Claude]

like an emotional combo.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah. No.

[Jackie]

You wouldn't.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no. Like, unless if he wants, like, just talk for fun, like. But like.

[Jackie]

No, no, honestly, Jay Shetty doesn't talk for fun.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I don't. No. That's not my style for me.

[Jackie]

I know.

[Jackson Claude]

You know?

[Jackie]

I know.

[Jackson Claude]

But. But it's good stuff and I appreciate what he's doing, what he does over there.

[Jackie]

Yes, absolutely.

[Jackson Claude]

Creating, you know, safe space for conversation.

[Jackie]

Absolutely.

[Jackson Claude]

There's a couple goods, you know. Now we have like, there's like a lot of good avenues. I feel like it's like now like Jay Shetty call her Daddy Jake.

[Jackie]

Pass the puss.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah. Vile Files. If you're like really reality tv.

[Jackie]

Very reality tv.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Oh. So mazel tov to Layla.

[Jackie]

Oh, mazel to Layla. Wishing you the best.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Looking forward. Oh, Taylor, Frankie Paul arrested, question mark.

[Jackson Claude]

Not arrested.

[Jackie]

Like, reported cops called on her by Dakota. So, like, take everything with a grain of salt, but, like, the fact that these two are still interacting.

[Jackson Claude]

I know.

[Jackie]

And just as she was, like, starting to emerge a little bit. They say her season might air this summer. I know that they have a child together, so, like, no communication is, like, not an option. Yeah, but this is annoying.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. She posted on her Instagram briefly. She said, cops called on me again this week. What are the odds? And it's not people. It's one person. It's the same person. It's obsessive. TMZ learned that it was Dakota, obviously. Police child tmz. They were contacted by Dakota on Friday who shared concerned about his protective order with Taylor regarding drop off in custody of their kid. Officers contacted her to make sure they were all on the same page regarding the protective order and drop off hours. We're told the matter is now in the hands of the district attorney's office.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I could see her having been like 10 minutes late. And he called the cops. Right. Like the drop off.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. There's no new altercation, so it's just a really bad headline.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I guess that's true.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, next story. Kendall Jenner and Jacob Elordi fly under the radar at the airport in Australia after their getaway. So Kendall and Jacob were spotted trying to fly under the radar at Brisbane Air Brisbane airport in Australia over there.

[Jackie]

I love flying to Brisbane.

[Jackson Claude]

I like Brisbane. I've never been, but I've heard it.

[Jackie]

You've been to Brisbane, and Brisbane is beautiful this time of year.

[Jackson Claude]

We should go girls trip.

[Jackie]

Girls trip to Brisbane.

[Jackson Claude]

So they're just like, wearing coven masks, scarves, hoods, and hats to go through the airport. They're still spotted. Just. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I mean, they're giants, both of them. So they're gonna be spotted. I don't think celebrities, like, really can fly private to Australia. Right. Like, it's such a long flight, you sort of have to fly commercial.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, you could stop and fuel up.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I guess. That's his hometown. So, like, we're meeting the parents, we're doing the hometown. Right. He's Australian, No. Yeah, he is.

[Jackson Claude]

Beats me.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

Cute.

[Jackie]

I just want to reflect on Joey King for a moment, if I may.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. Joey. Oh, Joey.

[Jackie]

And I know she's like, very happily married. And I genuinely like. I like her and I wish her the best. It's just really crazy to think about Jacob Elordi's arc. Both relationship wise, career wise. Like, where he started. Like, he's dating Kendall Jenner. Like, that's insane. Like, and everybody knows him now. It's like that hot actor who dates Superman. I was like, I know him as the brother from Kissing Booth who was dating his co star, Joey King.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And that relationship ruined the franchise.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So what did you want to say?

[Jackie]

I didn't want to say anything. I just wanted to reflect and I feel like I've reflected.

[Jackson Claude]

You felt sufficiently reflected my reflection show. I feel like Jacob Lord is a hard person to be in a relationship with because he's always, like, striving, you

[Jackie]

know, like, walking really fast.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no. Striving, like, oh, they said striding.

[Jackie]

Like, I would not be able to keep up with his, like, climbing the

[Jackson Claude]

ladder, you know, like Austin Butler type.

[Jackie]

Absolutely.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Alison Butler.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

But so then I wonder what he's like in a relationship once he's reached the top. And I would say, like, Kendall Jenner, like, so successful, so beautiful.

[Jackie]

Like, hopefully he's more relaxed.

[Jackson Claude]

Hopefully he can just, like, enjoy, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah. I would love to see, like, a campaign with these two. Like a high end fashion campaign.

[Jackson Claude]

Like her in Bad Bunny for Gucci.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah, I would just like to see that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I just want to say I feel like he's not a good boyfriend. Just based on vibes.

[Jackson Claude]

Interesting. Why?

[Jackie]

What you ever see. You ever see that video where, like, he took Olivia Jade to the Tribeca Film Festival, walked the right car, but she was waiting for him at the end, and he, like, literally walked right past her because he forgot she was there and, like, walked up the stairs.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I don't know. It's just a bot. Just a feeling that I have.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And, like, I just don't like all this. Like, why do you have, like, we know it's you. What's with the mass and the scarf and the hat?

[Jackie]

And like, literally there's a horde of paparazzi following you. Like, the jig is up.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. Like, just smile.

[Jackie]

What if you just smiled, you're beautiful.

[Jackson Claude]

You're in love. Just stop being so serious.

[Jackie]

Like, if you strap me up to a heart rate monitor and, like, showed me photos of these two, like, it does nothing for me.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, you're saying these two people haven't dated already twice. Like, it just doesn't feel new. It doesn't feel fresh. Like, I liked what he dated Olivia Jade Especially now.

[Jackson Claude]

Now.

[Jackie]

But when they started dating, she was like, fresh off the heels of her scandal. So, like, it was kind of like crazy, risky, fun thing for her to do. Like, this is so uninspiring to me. Reminds me of Kim and Louie.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but I'm here for them. I'm here for them dating now. Like, I am. And so I don't care. I just, like, I wish I would just, like, stop being so, like, serious. Like, you're walking through the airport. It's not like, it's not a crazy high stakes situation. Just, like, give us a wave, you know, everybody.

[Jackie]

I don't care. Oh, not me.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think they're cute. I think they're cute. I want Kendall.

[Jackie]

Callum Turner thing.

[Jackson Claude]

Who's that?

[Jackie]

Dua Lipa just got married and everyone's like obsessed with the wedding. Very like a Euro summer Italian, like, cigarettes. But do you know who he. So they. They have like this very famous meet cute. They were like in a restaurant or something reading the same book. And he looks at her and whatever, and he's like, I guess now we're on the same page. Whatever. Like, the whole theme of like the welcome party was books. It's like library on the same page. And Stassi baby hosts a podcast with Victoria, Kylie's old assistant. Victoria goes on the podcast, starts talking about her ex boyfriend who, like, never wants to be seen in public with her. Like, didn't want to be famous. Like, was so mean, hiding her. It's Callum Turner and she actually says that Dua Lipa and Callum Turner met when he was on a date with Victoria at a restaurant. She got up to go to the bathroom. So like, their whole like, meet cute book page is like a little not true.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, well, it's true. It's just half the truth.

[Jackie]

Correct.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, damn. But they got married, so sorry, sister. Yeah.

[Jackie]

So it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

They made it right?

[Jackie]

Yeah, right.

[Jackson Claude]

Our fifth and final story, which will lead into our Love island recap, which

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

Thank you, Turt Video.

[Jackie]

You're welcome.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, our fifth and final story leading into our TV recap. Love Island USA's Tierra Davis allegedly threatened to shoot a girl years before entering the villa.

[Jackie]

And one thing about me is like, I will not tolerate any TT slander. I love her.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I know this is like very inconvenient.

[Jackie]

I need more context before like so

[Jackson Claude]

here, here, here you go. Tierra Davis allegedly beat up a girl years before entering Love Island USA over jealousy involving her ex boyfriend. This according to the girl who ran to court to get protection. TMZ obtained the 2018 restraining order filed against Tierra by a woman named Shayla Woodard. According to the court docs, 16 year old Shayla claims 17 year old Tierra threatened to shoot.

[Jackie]

My God.

[Jackson Claude]

Threatened to shoot her with a gun after physically assaulting her. She said she knew Tierra from a friend of a former classmate. Shayla said she did not know Tierra personally but believed Tiara was upset because she knew her boyfriend. Shayla said she called the police on Tierra but she kept harassing her. She asked for a restraining order requiring Tierra to stop contacting her and stay away from her and her family. A temporary restraining order was granted but the case was later dismissed in December. December.

[Jackie]

This is just like inconvenient because Love island like you know, they do. I think Parmita also has some social media posts that have come out.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes, she does. Well the thing is Love island takes action against like social media posts. That's like what they've taken action against. I actually think that something like this, and I do think something like this comes up in a background check.

[Jackie]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jackson Claude]

So like this is something that they, you know the thing about the Love island social media post, people are like, how did they not find them? A lot of them are like private messages or like Snapchat disappearing stories that they could never have seen but someone from their personal life has held on to for six years. And so they could have never found that this is different because this they would have found in a routine background.

[Jackie]

Absolutely.

[Jackson Claude]

And they chose to overlook it, I guess.

[Jackie]

Well, I feel like that is the type of obviously not gunslinging but like this is the type of energy you want for Love Island. Somebody who will like fight for their man. Yeah, like they, you're right, they definitely knew this and hopefully it doesn't take her off the show because I feel like she's integral.

[Jackson Claude]

No. And there's not like a, A, a history of them letting go of anyone for like past actions or anything. It's just like for anything other than social media posts. And so I think Parmita, I'm expecting her days are numbered. I don't know why she wouldn't get booted like everyone else.

[Jackie]

Right. She also had a slip of the

[Jackson Claude]

N word she did in a DM like in a now in a text. Right.

[Jackie]

Obviously, it's all bad, but, like, singing it in a song is different than, like, using it colloquially. I argue that the second is worse.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I would say so. But not that, you know, even matters. But I will be shocked if Parmita doesn't go. And at this point, like, kind of

[Jackie]

everyone needs nothing to go.

[Jackson Claude]

You did it, like, gone Alana.

[Jackie]

While they kicked her out, like, she was sort of necessary. It was, like, a big deal to remove her because it sort of removed any wrongdoing on Zach and Casa. More like Parmita being kicked out, like, seriously just changes nothing.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, single again. He's gonna be heartbroken.

[Jackie]

He, they. I've actually never met two people who are more right for each other.

[Jackson Claude]

I actually. So while I think he's, like, really awful in what he did to Kenzie, I kind of really like them together. They're a happy, loving couple, and it's fun to watch two people just get along, close off early, know what they want.

[Guest/Caller]

Boom.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I, I, I find Kenzie increasingly more difficult to feel bad for.

[Jackson Claude]

After last night, I've actually, I have

[Jackie]

moved on from the Corbin thing.

[Jackson Claude]

No, the thing is the way that Corbin went into Casa, like, not giving Kenzie a second thought, as if he's just, like, single now. Like a high schooler when they went through something, they, they were really liking each other and he could move on. With Parmita, I could care less. But just, like, the fact that night one, it was as if he had, like, nobody waiting for him, that was kind of gross. But Kenzie, and so separate from that. What Kenzie did last night in kissing Gall. I'm sorry, I'm actually done with her. I'm done with her. Like, I'm done with her too. I think is the eighth guy that she's exploring. And she keeps saying, like, I'm here. I want to find love. I want to love. And so I want to, like, see it with everyone who I feel a spark with. But, like, part of, like, finding love and, like, loving someone, respecting relationships that you're already having is ignoring any other spark that you might have with someone because you're, like, locked in on this. And I think her and Dylan are so cute. I think he's such a good guy. I think he likes her so much, and he's like, there's no problem. He's normal. He makes her laugh. He can hold a conversation. Absolutely beauty. She likes him. And so the fact, and when Jen said it a few days ago, she was like, if Kenzie likes Dylan so much, they're so good. Like, why does she even feel the need to, like, see if there's something there with Gal? Which is true. And it's not like she hasn't explored this whole time. Yeah, you don't want to come in and the first person you like.

[Jackie]

She had Sean, she had Zach, she

[Jackson Claude]

had Gabe, she had Caleb, she had Corbin. She has Dylan. She has.

[Jackie]

And you know what? All of the girls, you could tell because when we talk about the core four, like, they're obviously a clique. It's. It's Kada, Melanie, Trinity, and Anaya. They don't include Kenzie in that. And you know what? I think maybe they, like, sniffed her out because she's a bad friend to Jen, who's like, jen has nothing going on in this villa. Like, you can't just not kiss one guy.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

No, and I'm sorry. Jen, like, was so right. She's like, Kenzie just, like, wants multiple guys chasing her. Like, she thinks she's, like, in a movie.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And, like, we watched that movie already, Caleb and Corbin, and, like, now you met someone who's really great for you. Like, like, now the move is to settle down. If you came in and the first person you're talking to, you get sort of, like, caught up with them, and you're like, wait, I want to explore before I settle down. I would understand that. But you have spoken.

[Jackie]

That's not what happens.

[Jackson Claude]

You've spoken to eight people here. If you even want to. I don't even think you should be talking to Gal because you and Dylan are good. Like, what more are you looking for? But if you want to talk to him to see something, like the fact that they kissed, and you could tell he. She was looking at him like, are you going to kiss me? She. Even though, like, he leaned in, she, like, gave him the look. And I just. If you need to talk to him, do it without kissing. It's so disrespectful, and I hope Dylan leaves her.

[Jackie]

And right on the heels of, like, him being so rude to Jen, that conversation was so painful. He just sort of, like, he has not liked Jen since the beginning, and it's bothered me that she couldn't see that, because she should not have chosen him. She should have chosen Ronnie. Like, literally.

[Jackson Claude]

She always.

[Jackie]

I'm used to being with guys who are obsessed with me. Gal has never made it seem like he's obsessed with you. Ronnie was.

[Jackson Claude]

They were friends, and it was cute. But, like, was he just gonna Try use her to, like, get on the villa. And did he actually like her? Like, he liked her as a friend and I want to be in the villa.

[Jackie]

But she knew Gal was, like, not 100. And so, like, that conversation was actually infuriating. He'd picked a fight just to be like, you know what? I feel like, actually, this is gonna work out. It was like, she was. When he was like, you're being really aggressive. She, like, nobody in the world has actually ever been less aggressive than Jen in that moment.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And also it's like, okay, so now you're kissing Kenzie. She's tickling your hand. I'm seeing, like, plenty of touchiness.

[Jackie]

So are you not a touchy guy or.

[Jackson Claude]

It's just with Jen, the thing is, if you watch.

[Jackie]

I don't think he really ever liked Jen.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I think it was kind of obvious. And that's what I mean when I say, like, it was frustrating that she couldn't see that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But I think also, like, knowing that maybe he had a chance with Kenzie, it was like, well, you know what? I'd rather end things with you, explore them with Kenzie, as opposed to, like, blooming where I'm planted here with Jen. Yeah. So it was at first, I was like, you know what? I can. Like when he. The first conversation that they had where he was like, that's just, like, not how I move. That's not my, like, language. Whatever. I was like, okay, you know what? Not everyone has to be, like, spreading their legs on television. But then after the last conversation, I was like, oh, you're so, like, full of. And you're also trying to make it seem like she did something wrong when, like, just say directly, I don't like you like that, and I'm not feeling it. And not like, she's being aggressive in this conversation went sideways, so we can't be together.

[Jackie]

It was so. It was so clear what he was doing. I do not like him at all.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Kenzie, like, at what point are we, like, just, like, being a slut? Like.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. When I saw that kiss, I was like, bloody.

[Jackie]

Yeah, like, bloody. Like. And also, like, because that's your friend, and Jen has. I think Jen has actually become more friendly with everyone. Kenzie's, like, sort of on an island of her own. Jen is her only friend. I don't think the girls like her. And now I'm starting to understand she

[Jackson Claude]

can't have female friendships. She's too busy exploring all the time. Yeah.

[Jackie]

So she was like, just with Jed Yeah. And, like, you literally sold out your only friend in this house. And. Yeah, no one here is, like, scrupled at all.

[Jackson Claude]

Like. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Because Dylan should say you and be done. And, like, go with Jen. Go with literally anyone. Nobody does that. Like, Melanie should say you to sincere. Like, nobody does what they should do. It's so frustrating. And that's why I just want to say, I know he's the devil. He's the villain of this show, but I do like the fact that Casey went to Casa Amore. We knew he didn't like Anaya. Anaya knew he didn't like Anaya. He smed someone and he brought her back. Like, at least he's. His actions match up with his words.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But by the way, Casey, I don't find him to be the devil. I don't find him to be the villain of the show. I think Casey has done nothing wrong. Wrong?

[Jackie]

No. He said no things wrong. And he's definitely immature. He does not. Like, he did not let Anaya down in the most respectful way that he possibly could have. And I think that, like, Casey, I'm

[Jackson Claude]

sorry, it's literally Taylor and Clark and Alandra, again and again. Like, Taylor, Casey, they left on kind of shitty terms. When he went to Casa, the last few days of their relationship had not been fun. They weren't really, like, driving. He met someone who he liked so much, and he brought her back and, like, was ready to come and talk and whatever. And then all the girls are. What is he supposed to do other than stand there while they're all screaming at him, start defending himself and say, I like her so much and I don't like you. No, you just stand there and you take it, and then when things calm down, we can have a conversation.

[Jackie]

It's just. I feel like all the hate.

[Jackson Claude]

It's just sad that he did not like Anaya as much as she liked him. And it's like, I'll beat around the bush and try and make it seem like, you know, I have a stronger connection with her, but, like, at the end of the day, it's hard to hear, no matter how well it's said. I just don't like you enough to stay in a relationship with you. And, like, that's not a crime. I feel like. And everyone's like, it's not you being with her. It's the way you went about it. Way went about. I guess he was a little too excited to be in Casa. Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I mean, there's no good way to go about it, honestly. But I feel like so much of the hate that's being sent Casey's way, like, really should be reserved for Sincere because he is, hands down, without a doubt, like, the worst guy in this villa. And I am at the point where I'm starting to not feel bad for Melanie anymore. How many times even she was, like, stern with him in their conversation. And then a confessional, she's like, well, let's see if he can change. Like, I feel like we know he actually can't. So it's a continuing to give him chances. Like, now, I feel like. And this is what it's like, yes, all the guys are bad apps. They're all bad. Like, there's not a good guy and the only good one. No one will talk to Caleb. Like, they're bad guys. But at what point is the personal accountability on the women to stop being dumb?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

No Melanie, bad choices.

[Jackson Claude]

Melanie's making me really sad. She's a completely different person from who she walked in as. I feel like she's been so, so beaten down every time they zoom in on her face. Like, honestly, she looks nauseous. She looks sick. She looks like she's turning green because she. Like, when Amora came out of the cake and, like, the blood drains from her face, like, she has actually lost herself in the villa. And it's like, I didn't love her personality day one, but at least she was, like, bursting with life, confidence, energy, everything. And now she's just like a shell of herself. It makes me so sad. And it's like, yeah, Sincere came back and chose you, but not after having an actual girlfriend in Casa.

[Jackie]

I would rather be Anaya, who didn't get chosen, then Melanie, who got chosen and is being lied to. Like, at least it's final. Like, that's what I mean about Casey. Maybe to go to bed in the right way, but he has been up front.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Sincere had this whole secret relationship, and we wouldn't have even known about it if the girl didn't come back up.

[Jackson Claude]

Funny tweet. That was like, Sincere is the type to have two separate families.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

And love both of them.

[Jackie]

Yeah. He is a bad guy.

[Jackson Claude]

He's insufferable, too. Just like, he really thinks he's so righteous. And then every time he says sorry, he's like, you know, I gotta do better. Like, shut up. Like, just shut up. Just shut up.

[Jackie]

Bryce and Trinity closed off.

[Jackson Claude]

It's like, just, if you want to be bad, go be bad and walk the walk and talk the talk and just be A piece of like you are. But stop. We also have to listen to you. We also have to listen to you think that you're, like, righteous or something.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And Melanie, like, cannot see it.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. I. I actually really wanted it to be Corey, because I feel like. Of course, I feel like they had something good going. I mean, we didn't even talk about the fact that Anaya didn't choose Carl. Like, the biggest L. That's what I mean.

[Jackie]

Like, everyone's sending back Carl, like, literally. Why? Yeah, if I'm Carl, I'm mad.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, me too. They want, like, to see her have, like, a happy story. And I guess the other girls.

[Jackie]

So do I held out some point?

[Jackson Claude]

No, but, like, like, the other girls held at hope for, like, they were hoping for, you know, and wishing on a relationship that was, like, more real. Like, Zach and Kato, like, were so, like, good before they left. Melanie and Sincere are. Melanie, insincere. Like, he. She knows.

[Jackie]

Well, that's the thing.

[Jackson Claude]

She knows that even though he is, like, toxic and whatever, like, he's coming back to her.

[Jackie]

That's the thing is that I think Anaya sat there and saw everyone come back. Bryce, Zachary, Sincere. So her going last. I think maybe she was on the fence, but, like, oh, she's. Oh. They obviously all sat around casa more and talked about how much they missed us. Like, I think she thought. Emboldened by everyone else's choices.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And I think the fact that it happened for everyone else and didn't happen

[Jackie]

for her made it even more embarrassing.

[Jackson Claude]

But I think also it's a little immature on her part to think that, like, this is a group exercise where it's like, no. We're judging each individual relationship. It's not like, the guys and the girls. And if the guys all do it and the girls all do it, like, like, no. Are you in, Casey? Good. You're not.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So Parmita and Corbin being the first couple to close off, like, didn't see that in my bingo card, but slay. And then we got Zach and Brinity, the winning couple. Trinity, the winning couple. Like, seriously, we can end the season.

[Jackson Claude]

We really can. They're both so great individually, so great together. They're so healthy and, like, evolved, and, you know, they really grew something. They watered their plan, and I think their story has been really beautiful. I really don't know why Zach and Kate. I can't get it together. Like, what? Like, Zach is.

[Jackie]

I've been telling you, he is. He is like, not what he sees. He Is very red flag. Why haven't they closed off? They went to the hideaway.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. And he was like, we're not boyfriend and girlfriend yet. I keep saying. He keeps, like, dangling it, saying, I love you and then saying it was a joke. That's like, the worst kind of guy.

[Jackie]

I'm telling you. They. He is not. I know, like him because his brother is Charlie, but he is bad.

[Jackson Claude]

I can separate him from Charlie. And people like, on Twitter will be like, Zach. You know, Zach definitely got a phone and wi fi. He's getting special treatment being like a Nepo sibling. Like, what do you mean? Charlie was on the show for one week. They don't give. The production doesn't give a About Charlie enough.

[Jackie]

He had no impact enough to like,

[Jackson Claude]

give Zach preferential treatment. Agreed.

[Jackie]

No, no. He's not being protected or anything because I feel like if you watch with a. He's just, like, less obvious, like, sinister. It's like, sorry, Sin. There's a girl on Tick Tock. She does Love Story. Love Story. She does Love island recaps every day, and she's so funny. And she just calls him sinister. So, like, I like, I. As I. Sincere is so obvious in his, like, bad behavior.

[Jackson Claude]

Insane to have your name be sincere. And then back to that.

[Jackie]

Big mistake. Yeah. I think it's definitely a lot of pressure to have a name like that. And I. I understand that, but you

[Jackson Claude]

don't have to go complete opposite.

[Jackie]

Opposite.

[Jackson Claude]

You don't have to be sincere.

[Jackie]

He is such a bad guy.

[Jackson Claude]

We should call him insincere.

[Jackie]

I hate him.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So Zach is.

[Jackie]

He has really, like, red. Huge red flags, and he's just better at hiding them.

[Jackson Claude]

Also, like, Kada and Zach are, like, using Che as, like, a pawn to, like, work each other up. Like, oh, he was a big boy. Like, like, they just used all these people.

[Jackie]

Thirteen. They're 13 years old.

[Jackson Claude]

And no, it's so toxic. They use people, all of them, them, as, like, a way to just, like, make each other jealous and further their relationship. It's really gross.

[Jackie]

Agreed. Corbin and Parmita are my winners if she stays. Right.

[Jackson Claude]

But, like, I don't. I feel like for some reason, like, they're not gonna send her home, but. So is it over? Like, is the sending home over then?

[Guest/Caller]

No.

[Jackie]

No. But I don't know why? Because, like, Parmita is, like, so irrelevant. Like, I don't know. I don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

And at what point is that going to tell Keita that Alana was sent home?

[Jackie]

Well, I'm Hoping that Amora or TT Will.

[Jackson Claude]

But also, tonight's movie night. Tonight's movie night.

[Jackie]

But the thing is, I feel like production won't make it a thing because, like, it breaks the fourth wall. They can't say that she was sent home for X, Y and Z. Like they sort of need to ignore it.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but like, she needs to know because he's also saying I could have brought her back. He said that? No, you.

[Jackie]

That's a fucking crazy thing to say.

[Jackson Claude]

You couldn't have. That's a lie.

[Jackie]

Unless production was like. Like, are you gonna bring this girl back? And he said no. And they're like, okay, we're sending her home, like, cutting their losses.

[Jackson Claude]

Agreed. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. Okay, so we'll give him the benefit of that. Even though he so doesn't deserve it.

[Jackie]

So undeserving. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday Jackie and I try to get back to our community and help out girls in need. Write to us dear toasters, gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. scroll down, there's a little submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous.

[Guest/Caller]

Us.

[Jackie]

We actually have an update today. A little brief one. A nice little happy ending. Ready? Hey, Jackson.

[Jackson Claude]

Turd.

[Jackie]

The place looks great. It always does. Thanks.

[Jackson Claude]

I need that.

[Jackie]

Last summer I wrote in asking for advice about whether or not I was being ungrateful and disappointed that my husband got me an umbrella and a meat thermometer for my 29th birthday. Do you remember? Yeah. So our advice this year for her 30th birthday, she just gave him a list of things she wanted, a list of ideas, and he just surprised her with a diamond necklace. That's the power of the toast. Love you, girl.

[Jackson Claude]

I love that.

[Jackie]

It's beautiful. And that's on. That's on speaking into existence. The things that you want.

[Jackson Claude]

No, that's on. Being direct. Like nobody's a mind reader. Yeah, if you want something, just ask for it. Doesn't mean you're gonna get it, but you have better chance.

[Jackie]

Also, thank you for updating us because we just spread ourselves so thin helping people out and we never hear back from them. So. Love you. Happy that worked out for you. Hey, swirlies. I am looking for some sisterly advice as I do not have any sisters. My sister in law. So my husband's brother's wife is a new hairstylist and she offered to come do my hair for free as I have a newborn at Home and I obviously can't take a trip to the salon. She did a full head of blonde highlights and I thought that would be fine because I already have blonde hair and I would just need like a touch up. And I was so wrong. My hair looks absolutely horrible. But my sister in law is so sensitive. I know she would be devastated if I told her I didn't like it or if I went to someone else to get it fixed. I look truly awful, but I have no idea on how to fix it without hurting her feelings. What do I do? Sincerely, a new mama feeling worse in her skin.

[Jackson Claude]

Go fix it. Well, it depends. Like, you're home with the baby, so like doesn't matter. At this current moment, whenever you're like emerging, go and fix it. Like, I'm sorry, you don't have to have ugly hair to protect someone's feelings.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's actually really like lovely of you to be prior. The number one priority here is your sister in law's feelings. Like, I just want to say great hair stylists are made from these moments. So you're actually helping her and the fact that you would like knowingly walk around ugly just to save her feelings. You sound like an amazing person, but you also sound dumb. Get your hair fixed. That's the number one priority. New mama feeling good.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And just be like, you know what? At this stage in my life, I want to be actually a little darker than you can make some up.

[Jackie]

Like, oh, please. No, I think that we should be able stylist. The thing is, is that first of all, you don't have to say anything. Like maybe she'll just get the hint.

[Jackson Claude]

You would never.

[Jackie]

I would never walk around with ugly hair.

[Jackson Claude]

But you would, you would fix it, but you would never say that person. Like, you did a bad job. I didn't like it.

[Jackie]

I wouldn't say it like that. First of all, I would get it fixed and hope she didn't notice. That's just best case. She wouldn't sit. Hopefully she doesn't notice. And if she does notice, hopefully she doesn't say anything. And then she could just sort of like take the hint like that I was bad. I'm sorry, I. What about these women's. This woman's future clients? Like, you have to help her get your hair fixed. We'll figure out the issue later. We will figure out how to handle it later.

[Jackson Claude]

Someone else can help her. It doesn't have to be someone who has to have Thanksgiving with her every year for the rest of your life. Someone Else can tell her she did bad job.

[Jackie]

Get your hair fixed and we'll figure everything else out later. I hate the idea that you're walking around with hair you hate. It's hard enough, like, to look in the mirror when you're postpartum.

[Jackson Claude]

I know, but like, your hair is probably like up in a bun. Like, it's okay. It's okay.

[Jackie]

It's not. Get your hair fixed.

[Jackson Claude]

No, get it fixed. But like, it's. It's okay.

[Jackie]

It's okay. We actually have like a lot of hair issues today. Ready? Hey, Queens. I found myself in a hairy situation. My mother in law has good intentions and she really loves my kids very dearly. Last week when she was in town, she took my daughter to do some errands. When she gets back, my daughter said, close your eyes, mama, I have a surprise for you. When I opened my eyes, I saw a bob with bangs on my four year old daughter. She's never had her hair cut.

[Jackson Claude]

This can't be real.

[Jackie]

Had long, gorgeous blonde hair.

[Jackson Claude]

This can't be real. This is when they say dear toasters are made up.

[Jackie]

I acted excited in the moment because she's beautiful no matter what. No matter how she looks. However, what the actual. I texted my husband in a spiral. He says he'll take care of it when the kids are in bed. He brings it up and said she was taking something off my plate because I'm a working mom with two young kids. And apparently at one point I said I needed to trim my daughter's hair as she's in Two Weddings and the Flower Girl for the summer. She immediately started crying saying she thought I would like it. And my daughter said she wanted bangs things.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes, the four year old gets to choose how she looks.

[Jackie]

I just need to know how Turdy and Jax would have responded. I know it's just hair and maybe I'm being stupid, but thanks. Love you ladies. I'm sorry, you said. You said the daughter needed a trim. The daughter comes back with a slick back bob and bangs. This woman is not your friend.

[Jackson Claude]

And I'm sorry.

[Jackie]

Crying being like she needed a trim. You didn't get her a trip.

[Jackson Claude]

I would like her.

[Jackie]

The daughter said I wanted bangs. How stupid are you?

[Jackson Claude]

I would light her up and I would say, you can see her again when her hair grows back out. Out.

[Jackie]

Oh, that's what I would say.

[Jackson Claude]

You could take her again for the day when the hair grows back out, that's when.

[Jackie]

No, you're not. That's when.

[Jackson Claude]

That's when. That privilege Is resumed.

[Jackie]

You are under reacting.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I would go crazy. This can't be real.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you need to not let this go.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, I would. I would be raging.

[Jackie]

And I just want to say your daughter probably looks so cute. Like, big. Don't worry about it.

[Jackson Claude]

And hair. And hair grows out and it. But like, raging.

[Jackie]

Hair grows so fast.

[Jackson Claude]

Raging.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but this woman needs.

[Jackson Claude]

She'll take her to get a tattoo next.

[Jackie]

It's true. What are we going to do navel piercing

[Jackson Claude]

alone with a child?

[Jackie]

You need to, like, seriously make this into such a big deal. Cuz, like, these are the types of things when people think they can get away with them. They build and they. Next thing you know, Jackie's right. We're getting tram stamps next summer.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So you can take her out again alone when her hair grows back. And in that time, think about what you did.

[Jackie]

Yeah, she needs a stern talk a

[Jackson Claude]

couple years before you get that privilege again.

[Jackie]

And then our third and final dear to us is a little bit of a marital. Marital spat. Marital issue. Hey, swirls. My husband and I are high school sweethearts. In college, we were long distance, so we did our fair share of sexting. Fast forward to 10 years later. We're married with young kids. My husband still at least once a week wants to be in separate rooms and sat sex like we did in college once the kids are asleep. I seriously hate it.

[Jackson Claude]

So once a week is a lot for like.

[Jackie]

I agree. And half the time I can't stay awake because I fall asleep while putting the kids to bed. I've tried to talk to him about it. Is this something I just need to give it to because it's something that means a lot to him. I literally would rather have sex with him every single night. I just hate the whole separate sexting thing. Am I crazy?

[Jackson Claude]

Once a week is a lot that just, you know, it sneaks up on you.

[Jackie]

You know, all of a sudden it was always Wednesday. No, literally, once a week eventually starts to feel like every day.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. The weeks fly by.

[Jackie]

And I want to say, while the novelty of this, like, at its core, is really cute, once you start doing it so much, like, it's not cute anymore because, like, it was supposed to be this, like, special thing. So I would. And like, I don't know, at its. At its core, it's also weird.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, so you know what? Like, like, I mean, you could deal with the issue at hand, or you could set up like an AI chatbot that responds to him. You can fall asleep. AI, like, you know, respond Upload some previous messages.

[Jackie]

So AI knows, like, how you particularly

[Jackson Claude]

set, but I think he would also enjoy, like, a little bit of flair, you know, a little bit of difference and just let it run, go to sleep.

[Jackie]

And I know this is probably the difference between men and women, but, like, how can you. Like, like, it's fake. She's in the other room. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's like the long distance, the pining. Yeah, but you're role playing, being a part when you're together like that.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I'm sorry. That's a lot. It's a lot like. And we have a lot going on as. As women and mothers and like, now we're also pen pals.

[Jackie]

And like, the electricity bill, like, it's. It's just.

[Jackson Claude]

No, listen, run, run Claude in the background.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but also they should just be like, if this is his particular thing, that's fine. Weddings, anniversaries, birthdays, like, every week.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, that's like. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, every week is not a special treat.

[Jackie]

And it's like, how many times can you sext? Like, how many different things can you say?

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I think that's why you gotta get AI in there, right? Then he's gonna want it every night. He's gonna want it every night. He's gonna be like, you're so good at it.

[Jackie]

Right? And then think of the environmental impacts.

[Jackson Claude]

Think of the polar bears. They'll understand. You're a woman doing what a woman has to do.

[Jackie]

It's what the polar bears would have wanted. So what? Their home melted. This guy got a sex. I got a sex.

[Jackson Claude]

He got his rocks off rough.

[Jackie]

And the polar bear doesn't have any more rocks.

[Jackson Claude]

That's beautiful.

[Jackie]

Thank you to everybody who wrote in and shared their vulnerable stories with us. We love you dearly. This, I hate to keep reminding you, is our last episode of the week, but I just want you to be prepared. But also, Patreon's always there for you. So if you love this show and you want to support it in more ways, head to patreon.com toast, it's our little subscription service. For 7.99amonth. You're getting vlogs. You're getting extra episodes, five to be exact, every single month. Month. And then once you sign up, you also get access to our whole catalog, which at this point is like over 500 vlogs. Some famous ones. The great chili cook off spring clothing haul. Try on. Oh, darkest times of my life. So much good stuff.

[Jackson Claude]

Also, if you're missing us these next few days, like Patreon's going off right now. We're about to record a Patreon after this. Our last Patreon was Dear Toasters time capsule, which everybody's talking about. We were talking about it at the wedding. She was like, my friend texted me. I haven't listened yet. But my friend texting was like, this is the funniest episode of the Toast.

[Jackie]

Oh, the community is above.

[Jackson Claude]

The community is a buzz. Like it's really. You got to go listen patreon.com toast and another one is forthcoming today.

[Jackie]

Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast and London Morning show where we deliver the fastest stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found. Set Spotify itunes Stitcher Public video I already C box all the places. Wherever you listen to podcasts, find us the Toastly. The five star review about a beautiful sounding and wickly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we will see you on Monday. Happy holiday weekend and I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free.

[Jackson Claude]

Happy 4th of July. Love ya. Bye.

[Guest/Caller]

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