Grigio Girls: Tuesday, January 28th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Grigio Girls" Episode (January 28, 2025)

Hosts: Jackie and Claudia Oshry (Speaker A and B)
Release Date: January 28, 2025

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1. Transition to the New Studio Environment

Jackie and Claudia began the episode by addressing the listeners with humor and candidness about their recent transition into a new studio setup. They acknowledged the challenges faced during the transition, particularly concerning audio quality.

• Claudia (00:19): “It's day two of the new Toast era... We have made some adjustments. It's going to be a work in progress...”

The hosts shared their commitment to improving the show's audio and visual elements, responding to listener feedback about wanting to see more of their faces during the broadcasts.

• Jackie (00:42): “We want to see more of your faces. We're having a hard time seeing you.”

They humorously referred to their new environment as a "Gargy party" setting, emphasizing the creative and somewhat chaotic nature of settling into a new production space.

2. Behind-the-Scenes Insights

Claudia highlighted the exclusive behind-the-scenes content available to their Patreon subscribers, where they vlogged about their studio transformation and personal moves.

• Claudia (02:27): “We posted a vlog last night on our Patreon of the whole behind the scenes of the setting up process...”

Jackie expressed excitement about the visual upgrades and teased future content, indicating ongoing improvements in their production quality.

• Jackie (02:41): “We've got your little behind the scenes of my new studio... a full proper tour...”

3. Pop Culture Chats: Glee and Lady Gaga

The conversation naturally segued into a nostalgic discussion about the TV show Glee, where the hosts shared their opinions on various characters and performances.

• Claudia (15:13): “What's, like, your favorite Glee cover?”

• Jackie (15:15): “Fat Bottom Girls.”

They delved into character critiques, particularly focusing on Kurt Hummel, analyzing his relationships and character development within the show.

• Claudia (18:13): “Who’s your least favorite character on Glee?”

• Jackie (19:01): “I also, from what I remember, dislike Kurt because he's always, like, knocking Rachel...”

Shifting gears, the hosts discussed Lady Gaga's upcoming seventh album titled "Mayhem", reflecting on her artistic evolution and the anticipation surrounding her new music.

• Jackie (36:27): “Lady Gaga has unveiled the title cover stayed her for her upcoming seventh album.”

• Claudia (39:34): “Per the release, Mayhem is about chaos and transformation, celebrating music's power to unite, provoke, and heal.”

They compared Gaga's musical phases, praising her consistent artistic integrity despite varying public receptions.

4. Dear Toasters: Listener Advice Segment

A significant portion of the episode was dedicated to their "Dear Toasters" segment, where Jackie and Claudia read and respond to listener-submitted questions seeking advice on personal dilemmas.

a. Navigating Unexpected Situations

Listener Story 1: A listener discovered her boyfriend’s parents engaging in intimate behavior while wearing furry masks during a vacation. She sought advice on whether to confront her boyfriend or address the situation differently.

• Claudia (55:55): “They’re not hurting anyone... Maybe it's not for you, maybe it's not for me, but, like, it is for them.”

Jackie (56:56): “You can shine a different light on it... Do not tell your fiancé.”

The hosts emphasized understanding and non-judgment, suggesting the listener reframe her perspective while maintaining trust in her relationship.

b. Handling Relationship Challenges

Listener Story 2: A long-distance relationship faced strain when the listener discovered her boyfriend had been arrested for a DUI. She contemplated ending the relationship based on this incident.

• Jackie (60:28): “I just think usually a DUI points to a larger issue...”

• Claudia (61:09): “This is a very good one.”

They discussed the implications of trust and safety in relationships, advising the listener to evaluate the relationship's overall health and values alignment.

c. Managing In-Law Tensions

Listener Story 3: An upcoming bride felt uncomfortable with her future mother-in-law’s insistence on keeping her chosen dress a surprise until the wedding day, creating tension during wedding preparations.

• Claudia (63:04): “Maybe you should stop this first look... Nobody cares what you look like, lady.”

• Jackie (64:03): “Protect your peace.”

The hosts recommended open communication and setting boundaries to preserve the bride’s peace and manage familial expectations effectively.

5. Reflections on Celebrities and Personal Growth

Towards the episode's conclusion, Jackie and Claudia reflected on the personal growth of celebrities like Miley Cyrus, discussing her evolution and authenticity in her recent projects.

• Claudia (50:21): “This era of Miley, like, is by far my favorite one because I feel like she's really not trying so hard.”

• Jackie (52:46): “She's such a talent... watching her seem so happy and content and at peace with herself...”

They praised Miley’s ability to navigate her career with resilience and authenticity, drawing parallels to their own experiences in evolving their podcast.

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia seamlessly blended behind-the-scenes updates, engaging pop culture discussions, and heartfelt advice segments. Their candid approach and thoughtful responses to listener stories underscore their commitment to building a relatable and supportive community. Whether navigating personal relationships or reflecting on the growth of public figures, the hosts provide insightful perspectives that resonate with their audience.

Notable Quotes:

• Claudia (00:19): “It's going to be a work in progress till Jackie and I can get our audios totally matching.”
• Jackie (15:15): “Fat Bottom Girls.”
• Claudia (39:34): “Mayhem is about chaos and transformation, celebrating music's power to unite, provoke, and heal.”
• Claudia (55:55): “They’re not hurting anyone... Maybe it's not for you, maybe it's not for me, but, like, it is for them.”
• Jackie (64:03): “Protect your peace.”

This episode highlights The Toast's blend of humor, authenticity, and community engagement, making it a must-listen for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, millennials.

[B]

Welcome back to the toast and Happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a Gargy party day. Speaking of Gargy party, it's Jacqueline Foley, jerk, if you will.

[A]

I am having a Gargy party day because I'm in a garchie party environment with a Gargy Parchy gal.

[B]

It's day two of new toast era. Obviously, so much has changed. We hear you, you guys. My audio was piece of on a stick yesterday. Like, I'm sorry. I will go jump off the Queensborough Bridge. I'm so sorry. We have made some adjustments. It's going to be a work in progress till Jackie and I can get our audios totally matching. But today should be a lot better. I know. You know, if it's not, you will let me know. And we also got some feedback that I actually agreed with. Wishing that, you know, you could see our Gargy party faces a little bit more.

[A]

That's all they had to say. We want to see more of your faces. We're having a hard time seeing you.

[B]

So we're punching in.

[A]

We're punching in.

[B]

Punching in. Today's episode, like I said, it's going to be a little dance until we get everything 100% right. But to be in such a Gargy environment, I feel really will yield results of garginess.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's definitely. I've got my podcasting hat on.

[B]

Oh, okay. You're gonna wear this hat to the party tonight?

[A]

I will always wear this hat to the party tonight. But you just. I don't know. Do you think it will change the tone of the show, being in such, like, a. A studio?

[B]

I don't think so, but I do think it will take us a long time to find our footing because, like, I still feel different.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I still feel like I'm in, like, someone else's living room. I feel, like, seriously strange. And by the end of yesterday's show, like, it obviously worn off, but, like, it was the first, like, 40 minutes that I still felt weird.

[A]

Yeah. And we've never done such an abrupt change. Not to do Toast at a Glance, not to do it. But this kind of. This kind of requires a bit of a static glanceness because every other studio change was, like, born of necessity. Like, I moved and then I put up wallpaper. We hadn't moved into a new place since June 2020, and we hadn't, like, made choices since then. So it's just given, like, the. The changing nature of our lives.

[B]

Choices are being made.

[A]

That's what choices have been made.

[B]

Now I'm so paranoid. So I just wanted to quickly check with you. Your camera. No, no, but red button, red button on the bottom. Right, Right, Yeah. There's only one. One camera light, like to the bottom right of the lens.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I am so paranoid. Today's the first day we're on our own. Yesterday we had like all of our fancy people coming and helping us and they taught us how to do everything. And today's like, Today's really a test of, like what Jackson Turd can do.

[A]

It's true. Training wheels are off. Speaking of our fancy people, we posted a vlog last night on our Patreon of the whole behind the scenes of the setting up process. It starts with Claude in New York. She vlogged her studio transformation and a bit of her move. And then I flogged. Flogged. I did flog it.

[B]

You did flog, by the way. We may need to talk about that.

[A]

My home studio transformation. So it's a Paris G dual vlog. We really put our heads together and you can watch it on patreon.com the toast.

[B]

Yes. You'll get a little behind the scenes of my new studio. I have done a studio tour in the old OG studio. We both did. It was very MTV Crib style. So that one, if you guys want to go watch it, because a lot of people wanted to see the old studio, you'll see it in the new vlog. But there is like a full proper tour and then my new space, which I probably won't do a tour for a really long time. I'm waiting on so much furniture. It will not be done for a really long time. But this specific corner where I, you know, create art. And this is kind of like my artist studio.

[A]

In your own little corner, in your own little square, you can be.

[B]

When you think of Cinderella, which one.

[A]

Do I think of?

[B]

Who is your Cinderella?

[A]

That's a good question. When I think of that song, of course I think of Brandy, of course. But when I think of Cinderella, honestly, I think about the animated character.

[B]

Yeah. Not.

[A]

Not Lily James. Not Robert, King of the North.

[B]

Excuse me?

[A]

Robert Madden. Is that his name?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Robert, King of the North. When I think of King of the North, I think of like the enormous, like Hagrid, Robert Baratheon, King of the North. No, no, he was literally not even the King of the North. Hold on.

[A]

Robert Baratheon was in the show for two minutes.

[B]

The king. No, but he was also just like the regular king.

[A]

Yeah, he was the regular king. No, Robb Stark King in the North.

[B]

Yeah. That's like, an interesting piece of history. Robert Madden. How? Like, his career, like, truly went nowhere.

[A]

No, that's not true. He's in that show or movie, the Bodyguard. He's always nominated for shit.

[B]

What else? Like, seriously, what else?

[A]

Cinderella.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He's actually, like, one of the ones who made it out of Game of Thrones. There are so few.

[B]

He's mid tier. He's mid tier. Top tier is obviously, which. So crazy. Somebody who was in the show for 30 seconds, Jason Momoa, Emilia Clarke, she was doing the damn thing for a while, but I think she, like, kind of is over it. It seems like she gave up. Sophie Turner, of course. I would say those are the three.

[A]

Yeah. And she.

[B]

Gwendolyn Christie. Don't sleep on Gwendolyn Christie. She's, like, doing stuff.

[A]

Brianne of Tars. Oath Keeper.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with that. Peter Dinklage, Wicked.

[B]

Oh. Oh.

[A]

Peter Dinklage, though he wants no association with the movie.

[B]

Yeah, he's not doing much press. Maybe if they cast you in a movie as the worst character too, you wouldn't wanna.

[A]

And you had the only song on the album that's a skip. Like. Yeah, you wouldn't want to show up.

[B]

Oh, my God. When I'm listening to the Wicked album and Peter Dinklage starts talking like Sam Hunt, something bad.

[A]

It's happening in us.

[B]

I can't even repeat it. I like. I move so quickly to the skip button.

[A]

I've actually hidden that song on the album so that I go straight from like wizard and I to Dancing Through Life.

[B]

Shall we quickly just take a turn into the Department of Corrections? Something I wanted to correct from yesterday's episode that I found hysterical is actually Dexter Morgan. The person who penned the Change.org petition to have Dora. Dorajukat or whatever. Dora Jar. Dora Jar removed from the Gracie Abrams tour is actually not a person. It's a fictional character. Dexter Morgan is Dexter. So we said it sounded like a TV character show's name, and we were right. So.

[A]

So someone didn't put their whole Dextasy behind that change that work position.

[B]

They did not put their whole dexterity. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you.

[A]

So show your face.

[B]

Show yourself.

[A]

Show your face. Glad to have cleared that up.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

What else did you do last night? Yesterday was such a busy day with post prod.

[B]

Didn't you find Busy? So busy. Such a busy day with post prod. Yesterday's episode was slightly delayed, obviously. Jackie and I are getting our you know, our new normal in order. So we will get back to our quick uploads. It's just been. It's been a journey because we're on track today.

[A]

Like, I don't want to jinx anything, but, like, we started on time, so.

[B]

I think we should be okay at least for audio. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, yesterday, I agree, was, like, super stressful, and it was great. I'm just, like, so loving this new life for myself. Like, I've just sort of created a new life. You ever know? Do you know that feeling?

[A]

I. I do.

[B]

Because you've also created a new life.

[A]

I have created a new life. What does your new life entail?

[B]

Like, a shorter commute, a party studio. Like, I'm gonna make, like, a cute little office here. I'm just, like, excited about what the future holds.

[A]

Cultivating a vibe.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I got woken up this morning, like, before my alarm. So annoying. By actually, like, a crazy acrobat in my belly. I've never experienced anything like that in my life. I thought there was an earthquake, like, my whole stomach. I wish I could have seen it, because I'm sure, like, my stomach was like. Like a basketball. Like, it was the craziest thing I've ever felt in my life. And it wasn't, like, uncomfortable, per se, but it wasn't. It wasn't pleasant.

[A]

And that was the baby.

[B]

Oh, I hope so.

[A]

As opposed to, like, the bowels.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I didn't have diarrhea. Thank you. I guess that was confusing. No, there was a baby in there.

[A]

That's so cute. Like, real kicks and. And movement.

[B]

Really crazy.

[A]

That's so exciting.

[B]

And then I entered a new week yesterday. You know, on those apps.

[A]

Oh, Mondays are your days forever.

[B]

My days. Exactly. So I checked, and I just want to say with each. I used to really look forward to checking. It's like, oh, grape lentil. And now I feel every time I check, I'm even more confused and lost than I was the week prior because it feels like we're not moving in a linear way. We're not getting bigger or heavier. Like, it goes from, like. First of all, I've gotten grapes twice, and I guess it was like a bundle of grapes versus one grape. It's just they make it needlessly confusing and also, like, anatomically confusing because, well.

[A]

It'S hard because a baby isn't a fruit.

[B]

Yes, I'm aware. No, no.

[A]

I'm just saying, like, doing a better job. Keep coming up with fruits that are the same like inches. And do they do it by weight?

[B]

So now I'm learning because I was complaining about this on my Instagram that it's by length. Cuz I'm like how the hell is a baby a banana? Like.

[A]

Yeah. After just being an avocado, which is very dense and round. Yeah.

[B]

So it's all about length. And to be completely honest, like of all the facts I could learn about my baby, like its length is not something I'm like particularly interested in, honestly.

[A]

Yeah, well that's to do with like that's helpful for the size and then you get the weight at the, at the doctor's appointment.

[B]

And also I don't know at what point in your pregnancy you stop calling the baby it. I haven't reached that point yet.

[A]

Well, I feel like later in pregnancy I came up with like a name that it was going by like first was LC and then the second pregnancy was Larry. Don't forget about Larry.

[B]

I loved that. I loved when we were calling your unborn baby Larry.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like you're gonna get to a place soon where like you have the nickname.

[B]

It just like all names we've been calling it Baby.

[A]

I. That's nice too.

[B]

Yeah. And it obviously it works. Can't. Can't forget about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you looks so sweet today.

[A]

I look sweet.

[B]

It's, you know, it's. We have to dress differently for these chairs. I'm very deep. We're being shot at a different angle. You see, yesterday I looked so short. So I gotta throw a pillow today and update my coccydynia. Like wasn't flaring up so terribly during yesterday's episode.

[A]

I also saw that you said on the vlog that you need to use your coccydynia pillow in this chair, but you don't. The pillow will sink and get lost.

[B]

I'll see if I end up needing it. I'm obviously going to start without because it's so fucking ugly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I need to get like a pillow maker to match the linen of this chair to my coccydidia pillow. Like I refuse to sit on that big. Oh my God. I just tell you the funniest thing. I tell you the funniest thing. I was going out to lunch yesterday cuz I wanted to pat myself on the back for a job well done in our new studio. So I took myself out to lunch by myself.

[A]

Where'd you go?

[B]

What do you do? Just like a small cafe, you know.

[A]

Somewhere new or the same old same old.

[B]

Like one of my local Spots, like, nothing. Truly.

[A]

I won't put you on blast. Just, like, wondering the vibe, like.

[B]

Yeah. And so I was by myself, and obviously I had nothing to do. So I started, like, listening to people's conversations, and I was stuck between two equally uninteresting conversations. I was just like, where do I go from here? And I feel like there must have been, like, a nearby, like, a local event for Holocaust Remembrance Day because the people in the restaurant were all just giving, like, older and Jewish. I'm like, I just. And it was like, a lot of people were wearing, like, the yellow ribbon, the hostage pin. I was like, there was an event nearby that just got out. I could just feel it. So I don't know. That's not relevant to. The ladies sitting next to me are two women. One. One of them is, like, very, very old grandma vibes. And one of them is, like, you know, like an older mom. I would say she's, like, 40 or 50, you know? And the younger one says, I start listening, and she goes to her friend, she goes, oh, my God. You remind me so much of my friend who just passed away. And I could tell she immediately was like, oh, shit. That's not something you say to a person who's, like, actually close to passing away. She was like, not in, like, the old sense. Like, in the wise sense. I'm like, yeah, sure, lady. Like, good luck cleaning that up. It was seriously so awkward. I was dying. Like, I need to listen to people's conversations more often. They're so interesting. And I was telling Ben, I was like, by the way, that should be what one of your, like, what do you nuts Is. You know, I'm always, like, nominating things for what are you, nuts? He never chooses mine. So I was like, it. I'll tell it on my podcast.

[A]

Yeah, we could have our own segment.

[B]

We could.

[A]

What are you.

[B]

I thought you were gonna say, what are you, nuts? Yeah, no, I'm always like, that's such a good buddy and nuts moment. And I know.

[A]

That's so nice of you. I just want to say that you're keeping an ear out for what are you nuts?

[B]

He keeps a list in his phone, and, like, whenever something happens, he'll, like, write it down. And whenever I share mine with him. I've never seen him write them down.

[A]

To bust out the list, but I.

[B]

Thought that was a good one. What are you nuts? It's rude.

[A]

Yeah. I guess he didn't have that, like, strong reaction because he didn't hear it in person, but that is really Odd.

[B]

It's a what do you nuts? Moment.

[A]

It's a what do you nuts Moment.

[B]

The stories today are, what? Because we have deer toaster.

[A]

We don't have whatty nuts. We have deer toasters.

[B]

Honestly, Dear Toasters is another version of what do you nuts? Because there's always one person in the situation who's truly deranged.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

And I kind of love that for us. So what you're saying is we actually invented what do you nuts?

[A]

It's true love that he could be mining deer toasters for candidates.

[B]

He could.

[A]

How are they today?

[B]

They're good, actually. I combed through our inbox looking for an update from the girl who wrote in last week about her husband and that circle of nude photos. We haven't heard from her. I'm sure she's dealing with a lot, so obviously, like, zero pressure. I'm sure she, like, you know, hasn't even listened to this week's episodes. She's probably so. She doesn't. She doesn't even know we moved into a new studio.

[A]

To be honest. Like, Dear Toasters will never be the same after that. Like, I think she broke Dear Toasters.

[B]

I know. Even when I was going through submissions for today, my bar has been raised, like, to the, like, a crazy level. I. Nobody submissions today or even remotely as close, but they're like, you know, normal people. Craziness.

[A]

No. And it's like, until she gives us an update, like, we're all just kind of stuck on that. Like, Dear Toasters is on pause, not saying that we're not doing their toasters. Like, I would never. We've learned our lessons, but we're all just kind of frozen by this.

[B]

Yeah. And, like, I think that as a community, we collectively, like, haven't moved from Dear Toasters since that girl wrote in about, like, the guy hoarding water bottles in her office. And now, like, we. We had finally, like, just started to move on from that as a community. And then this happens, and we're just sort of stuck again. We're at a standstill.

[A]

Yeah. So I'll be curious to see what the girlies have brought for us today.

[B]

You know, I hate to be the, like, you know, giving you notes, but remember, we did say we want to sit more in the middle of our chairs. You just look like you're skewing a little. A little?

[A]

Well, actually, my booty.

[B]

Do you? I just was reminding you.

[A]

No, yesterday. Well, also, because Broody was here yesterday. Yesterday I was literally in the slot on the side like, he took up the whole chair.

[B]

You almost had a frame today.

[A]

My booty is in the middle, but I do, if I may, sip on that lean, because I'm leaning.

[B]

Oh, sip on that lean, girl.

[A]

That lean.

[B]

So we have deer toasters, and the stories are.

[A]

This is me sipping on that lean.

[B]

What is lean? Like, cough syrup.

[A]

Yeah, like, perpetual.

[B]

One more spoon of cough syrup now. Whoa, whoa.

[A]

Okay, I'm sitting.

[B]

More setting now. Coming up now. Coming up now. That's, like, probably one of the best. I know you probably don't have, like, an answer in your pocket to this question because you're, like, mentally stable, but what's, like, your favorite Glee cover?

[A]

Fat Bottom girls.

[B]

That's a really good answer. And it's definitely in, like, my top 10 as well. But a lot of people's favorite Glee cover is Darren Criss doing cough syrup. They say it's better than the original.

[A]

Let me tell you, that will never. Darren Criss would never be, like, my number one.

[B]

Do you have beef with Blaine?

[A]

No, I just, like, don't relate. Like, he's not, Like, I don't relate to him so much. Like, the things that he did, except for firework, like, don't really stand out in my memory.

[B]

Who is your least favorite character on Glee?

[A]

Oh, I don't want to be rude. I don't want to be rude, because in real life, like, they're probably the only ones that I. That would hear this.

[B]

Okay, so it's either Becca Tobin Kitty, which it's obviously not, you know, Is it Tina Cohen Chang? Oh, my God. And Jenna Uskowitz is a toaster. You guys know I recently recorded an episode of the Glee podcast. Make sure to check it out.

[A]

Even though it's, like, not a knock on Jenna, because.

[B]

Of course not.

[A]

She's not Tina. But seriously, it's Tina and Artie.

[B]

It's Tina and Art. Well, both of them. Both of the hosts of the Bleed podcast that I just.

[A]

Wait. The only, like, the only people who've ever supported us. Like, that's why want to say it. The only people who have ever platformed us, like, yes, they were my favorite characters.

[B]

Wow. I wish you had told me that before going on the Glee podcast, so I could have shared that with them. Kind of an exclusive on my episode.

[A]

I haven't rewatched Glee in a lot of years, so the feelings aren't fresh. But I just remember, like, that was frustrating to me.

[B]

No, for sure. Tina Cohen Chang was, like, low key.

[A]

The worst.

[B]

She faked having a list, but, like, that's literally so ableist. And then was, like, best friends with an actually disabled person. And, like, she, what is my disability a joke to you? It was. I agree with you completely. And Artie, actually, I didn't dislike Artie. I didn't. But Tina Cohen Chang as a character. Although, like, when you are on the journey of the Glee Club, like, members are always leaving. They're almost like they have to have 12 members for sectionals, and they're always, like, hanging on to, like, 11. And Tina Cohen Chang is one of the OG members. She's in the very first episode. She's one of the first five members with Finn and Rachel and Artie. Artie, also. So there is something to say about, like, their loyalty to the Glee Club?

[A]

No. I think then she was on a power trip. She was, like, one of those seniors who, like, so picked on as a freshman and sophomore. Like, and the only thing that makes her powerful is being a senior, and they're going to use that against you.

[B]

There actually, I believe, is an episode, like, about that sort of senioritis attitude from the seniors, and Tina sort of leads the pack. You're 100% right about that.

[A]

Senioritis.

[B]

Yes, senioritis. What I would do to, like, experience senioritis again. Yeah, where you just, like, your whole life is in front of you.

[A]

No, but the crash from senioritis is so real. Like, I wouldn't want to. To have that looming. And I think that's why people really act out with their senioritis, because they know they're about to cry for help. They're about to go back to the bottom of the heap, whether you're a high school senior and you're going to be a college freshman or you're a college senior, and now you have to, like, enter the real world. Like, that's why they're so angry and pompous.

[B]

Do you think senioritis is more of a cry for help?

[A]

Yes, I do. Who's your least favorite character on Glee, now that you put me on the spot to talk trash?

[B]

Oh, well, it's Kurt, obviously, because I also recently rewatched an episode where Kurt's dad has a heart attack. And the Glee Club is so there for them, and they're really there for them in a spiritual way. And the Glee Club is quite diverse, so they have members from all backgrounds and religions, so they're all just, like, offering their particular prayers. Their prayers. And Kurt is obviously, like, having, like, a moment with God, so he, like, is rejecting not only the prayers, but people's kindness, and he acts now, of course, when you go through tragedy, like, you act however you want to act, but he's honestly, like, the way he acts is so egregious, but he has his moments. I. I think more so. I dislike Kurt because every song he sings, like, is a song I would never choose.

[A]

I also, from what I remember, dislike Kurt because he's always, like, knocking Rachel. Like, nobody will say anything, and then he has to, like, insult Rachel, and it's like, okay, jealous.

[B]

He's definitely threatened. But there does come a point in Glee where the two of them lay down their arms and then become best friends, like, as they should be, like the theater queens. And the show gets so much better after that. And then, of course, they move to New York together. So I think Kurt's redemption arc is when he finally, like, leans into what is meant to. Like, he's destined for greatness, him and Rachel. Like, you're 100% right. He hates Rachel. It's like a jealousy threat. Everyone hates Rachel because they're all jealous of her, but 100%, when he finally embraces, like, that friendship, he becomes such a more tolerable character.

[A]

Agreed. And that's what you missed on Glee.

[B]

And that's how Jackie sees it.

[A]

That is how Jackie sees it. Now we can talk about why Sue Sylvester is the best character.

[B]

So you didn't ask me who my favorite character is, but it's obviously Sue Sylvester. Also, I can't believe I said my least favorite character is Kurt when it's actually not. It's Mr. Shoe. I'm so sorry.

[A]

I know that I was thinking of.

[B]

The members of the Glee Club.

[A]

That's, like, known, you know?

[B]

Yeah. And when you say, like, my. I think I said, who's your favorite Glee cast member or Glee Club member? Because there's two different tiers of characters on the show. The members and then the staff. Obviously, Sue Sylvester is the best character, and obviously, Matthew Morrison is seriously the devil. So, yeah, I didn't want to let the segment go on without just acknowledging that.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's been, I don't know, like, 20 days since we trashed Maxi Morrison.

[B]

Actually, it's been way more. No. Whenever I did the Glee Club podcast, that was the last time I trashed Matthew Morrison.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I think we should dive in, because we have stories. We have your toasters, and we just have, like, lots to do, lots on the agenda.

[A]

We've got a lot of business. So without further ado to do. To do, here are the fast five stories that you do need to Know.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you, Turt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, our first story is what I'm hoping is going to be the last update in the Justin Baldoni Blake. Oh my God.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

No. For a while because they have gotten a trial date for the lawsuit. A New York judge has set a March 2026 trial date on Monday and moved an initial conference from mid February to next week. As the public feud between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni continues to grow and accelerate. And in a new and separate front in the series of legal battles surrounding the film that became a surprise hit last summer, Blake in a Texas court filed request for a deposition of a man she says was central to turning online sentiment against her during its release and promotion, the New York federal judge told both sides in an order late Monday to Prepare for a March 9, 2026 trial.

[B]

So over a year, A year.

[A]

However, I feel like it soon, like this will be on pause until the trial. That's why I think.

[B]

I don't think so. I think that, like, they're going to use this next year. Like, he keeps dropping things. Like, the lawyer went on Megyn Kelly. They just dropped a voice memo. They dropped that voicemail. They dropped the pictures from the basement. He will use this next year to really sway public opinion. Because like we've said every time we talk about this, like, obviously everybody wants to win the lawsuit, but they also want to win public favorite. And he has a plan. And by the way, it's so important to keep in mind, Blake has literally not responded to a single thing yet. So we haven't even heard the retaliation in the public sphere.

[A]

Yes, he put out a voice note, two voice notes he shared that he had sent to Blake at like 2am while they were filming there. From, like April 2023. I've heard bits and pieces. Like, I'm finding it really hard to like, actually listen to and look at the primary source material because it is so cringe. And I just want to say something. I feel like some people have guess or theorize that something happened between them. Like Blake developed a crush or they fell in love and then Ryan found out. And that's why Ryan was so mad and tried to ruin Justin. And that's why Blake was so. Got her feelings hurt because she had a crush on him and he didn't like that.

[B]

That was the running theory that Blake liked Justin and Justin refused her advances. And that's what this whole saga is about.

[A]

So when I've seen that, like, I feel like that is so simplistic and juvenile and I've kind of dismissed it every time. And I still think that that's like, not exactly what happened. However, now when I read these texts and I hear the voice notes, I'm like, they are talking to each other more intimately than two people would. Like. When he even said, like, I was. I'm so excited to have Blake Lively and the whole of you and all of you, like, who the fuck talks like that in a voice note? Like, my voice notes are just like, I received that.

[B]

My. My voice. I received that. Not as those two having any sort of, like, intimate relationship. I feel like it's a real testament to their character, both as freaks and as, like, people who really take themselves so seriously as, like, artists. You're literally making a Colleen Hoover movie.

[A]

That's where I was. But now I'm starting to just get.

[B]

Swept away by all the conspiracy theories.

[A]

No, certainly not swept away. This is not me being swept away. I'm just like, maybe there's some sort of romantic element here. Maybe I'm Just now giving it more credence, because everything that we're seeing, it's just very intimate. The way that they speak is all I'm saying.

[B]

It is. And I think it's more so, like, reflective of these people in Hollywood who seriously are not normal human beings. They're such weirdos and freaks and, like. And they talk in an earnest way like this.

[A]

Right. And it also just then adds, not that Ryan wouldn't ever defend Blake at all cost anytime. Like, I feel like he. If she. She was wrong, like, he would go balls to the walls. But, like, if he did feel like he was encroaching on his relationship or that his wife caught feelings for someone else, then he's even madder. But again, I do think it's, like, a little simplistic. No.

[B]

People are like, well, Ryan doesn't know. Like, Blake told Blake was mad that Justin did not want to sleep with her, so she went home and started this rumor that he sexually harassed her. Like, to be honest, I actually think that's, like, such an insulting thing to say. Like, that a woman's only saying she's being sexually harassed because her advances were turned down. Like, that's, like. That's, like, in the OG Handbook of how to deny someone's, like, experience. So I actually, every time I see that, I'm like, okay, that's seriously the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

[A]

Yeah, that I don't think is it, but.

[B]

Oh, and that Ryan's in the dark on all of this, but something about.

[A]

This is, like, a little more intimate. To go from, like, speaking like this to suing each other is very confusing.

[B]

It's giving. Scorned lover.

[A]

I don't know what it's giving, but I'm curious. But that's why I. I think I'm gonna watch this whole trial, because I cannot parse out what the happened here.

[B]

And I don't believe in New York courts, you can have, like, televised media.

[A]

We need this to be televised. If they're like, the whole. We need clarity. I have no clarity now. I'm more confused than I've ever been.

[B]

1,000%. And I think that's why people got so invested in the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial, was because they were able to, like, really listen in every day and discern for themselves.

[A]

Decide.

[B]

Watch the test.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. And so it's not like we're leaving it up to a magazine to recap it for us. Like, we will be in New York if. And I'm 90% sure. You can't televise a trial. Like, there's no media. But people, like, a reporter can sit in and then write what they heard. You're getting someone else's version.

[A]

Might, like, recap the fire points that one lawyer made, and you'll be like, oh, my God. But then they might leave out the fire points another reporter made. They have their biases. And the New York Times is, like, being sued and they're in the midst of this. I actually don't trust the media on this. Shocking. I want the primary source material, no matter how difficult it is to listen to and watch, like, the footage from the movie and the voice notes and the text messages, like, the cringe. But I don't know. I feel like this is really high stakes now, and we deserve to know everything and we should know everything.

[B]

We do. I don't think that trumps the law, which is that you can't. But I agree, it will really hinder people's ability to think for themselves because this is so divisive if we're not really given 24, like, full access to what's going on in that courtroom.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They need to move it to Virginia, which is where the Amber Heard trial was.

[A]

Yeah. But anyways, it's in a year, so I. I can't imagine it's going to be like a year more of, like, every day something dropping. I think it will be quiet for a little bit until trial starts. Because also, don't you, like, want some things hold back, like, to surprise your.

[B]

Right. But also, like, public favor has really moved away from Blake Lively.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That. I think it would behoove her between now and the trial to respond in some way. She hasn't said anything since that first complaint.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. And oh, and by the way, once they turn over the text messages to discovery, like, that'll be a whole new wave of media and stories.

[A]

Right. Right.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So that's the latest. Are you ready?

[B]

Seriously? I don't envy them.

[A]

No, no. This is a mess.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story? An update on something on our list is that Meghan Markle has delayed new episodes of her archetypes podcast with Lemonada after postponing her Netflix cookery show.

[B]

So you were going to say she was postponing the Netflix show again, but I literally forgot about Lemonada.

[A]

I did not forget about Lemonada.

[B]

Just actually it's up there manifesting up with this story.

[A]

I manifested it. This story.

[B]

We. Nobody else was asking what happened to Meghan Markle's. Lemonada show. Except for you.

[A]

So she's already delayed the release of her Netflix cookery show With Love Megan from January to March due to the devastating wildfires in la. And now it appears her podcast with Lemonada Media, which appeared to tease new episodes at the start of the month, will also be delayed, according to hello magazine.

[B]

Why? What. What was. What's the reason?

[A]

Idk.

[B]

The wildfires.

[A]

They didn't put out a statement, but, like, if you go and look, they should have been out, and then they're not out. Episodes of archetypes have been pushed back. The magazine, hello magazine. I don't know how much, you know, they understand that. A series of new podcast episodes for Megan has also been pushed back as a result.

[B]

As a result of what?

[A]

Of the fires.

[B]

Because if she was having problems getting this podcast up, which it seems like obviously she has, she should have looped it in with the wildfire delay of the Netflix show being like, I'm delaying all my projects because then nobody could say anything. But to delay something now because of the wildfires, when they're. They're not contained per se, but, like, it's much more under control. Like, people have resumed, you know, normal promotion of things. Yeah, it's a. It's a mistake. She should have looped them all in together.

[A]

Yeah. Daily Mail theorizes it's because of that Vanity Fair article about the divorce book or whatever. I don't think it's that. I think she just doesn't have episodes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think it's more so of the classic Meghan Harry, you know?

[B]

Right. And that's kind of like. I know that's something people clown on her about, but it is one of my favorite things about her. Like, she doesn't let this sort of, like, stereotype about her, like, oh, Harry and Meghan never released their projects. Like, if you wanted to sort of beat that, you would release your projects right now. Here we are at the top of the year. Her two projects have both been delayed. Like, I love that she doesn't fight it. You know, this, like, this rumor about her. Like, she doesn't do anything to dispel it, and she don't give a fuck. Like, cashing in the check before, like, putting, like, delivering your homework. It's just. It's a. It's. It's something I actually really admire.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

And I can't stress enough how, like, I will not be listening to the Lemonada podcast. No, like, notino shade. I didn't listen to her Archetypes podcast. I don't listen to many podcasts. I don't make. I don't listen to podcasts. I just make them. So, like, no tea, no shade. But I imagine there's a contingency of people who've been sort of waiting, like, if Meghan's your girl and she announces a podcast, how excited you are. And those people are just, like, waiting. And, like, I'm thinking of Sassy Shorter right now, because I know she's excited for the podcast, you know?

[A]

Yeah. No, it's definitely tough being, like, a Meghan fan, and just there's a lot.

[B]

Of waiting, wanting to support her project.

[A]

Yeah, definitely.

[B]

She doesn't like you.

[A]

Imagine being like, we're finally getting the cooking show. Two days till the show. Two months.

[B]

No. And think about how, like, we were excited. Like, we're not even huge Megan fans. Like, we really wanted to watch that show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, we were disappointed. So imagine if we were people who, like, ran fan accounts, like, real stands.

[A]

Yeah. I also.

[B]

Must be an exhausting job running a Meghan Markle fan account. Like, you can't really make any promises.

[A]

No, you can't. You really can't. Unlike the other fan accounts that make, like, really concrete. Okay.

[B]

Change.org petitions.

[A]

Like, I'm also just curious from a podcasting standpoint, like, what this show is going to be. And, like, the longer she posts once it, like, just the more we don't know. I don't think it's gonna be.

[B]

Is the show page up? Like, can you, like, is it just up with the trailer on the podcast app?

[A]

I think so. But also, I. I'm sure the old episodes of Arc, it's still Archetypes, so I wonder if they're gonna go back to, like, exploring different archetypes.

[B]

It's not, by the way. Like, there's no show page on. On Apple.

[A]

Oh, interesting. It's on Spotify still.

[B]

Archetypes. Yeah, I'm talking about the new Lemonada show.

[A]

The new Lemonada show is Archetypes.

[B]

Oh, what?

[A]

It's her show. She took it to Lemonada.

[B]

Oh, she got the name. Yeah, got it. Okay. Archetypes. So is Archetypes on Apple? Yes, but it says it's Archwell Studios. That is. Oh, it's Lemonada. Yeah. Okay, so the most recent. Yeah, they just have that first season. The Mariah Carey, Serena Williams, Mindy Kaling.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh. But now sales and distribution are done by Lemonada Media. So I guess if you're going and listening to old episodes, they're making money off of that because they're selling ads. But I don't know how much the old. Like, what are these episodes now? How. When did this come out?

[A]

Like, a year and a half ago.

[B]

Doesn't even say. But I don't know how many people are going back and listening.

[A]

I don't know. I guess the Megan fans do have that. That they could always go back and listen.

[B]

Thank God for, like, the. The catalog.

[A]

Archetypes. Catalog.

[B]

Yeah, the archives.

[A]

The archives.

[B]

That's a good name, too.

[A]

It is a good name. Are you ready?

[B]

She ever opens, like, a library.

[A]

A library that's empty. Are you ready for our next story? Our third story?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. Ooh. Oh, yeah.

[A]

A little music news par g transition. Lady Gaga has unveiled the title cover stayed her for her upcoming seventh album.

[B]

Wait, that's so crazy that I didn't see this.

[A]

No, I didn't see it until I was looking for stories. Like, it didn't cross my desk as just a little monster.

[B]

That's worrisome.

[A]

A little bit. So her new album, her seventh studio album is called Mayhem, and it will be released on March 7. The project will feature 14 tracks, including the previous release songs Disease and Die with a Smile with Bruno Mars.

[B]

Oh. Oh, I didn't realize that that was, like, her song for her album.

[A]

I think it's also his song for his album because he has a new album coming out too, and I think there's, like, collapse. I think they're both putting it on their album. Right?

[B]

The song.

[A]

Of course, the p song.

[B]

Okay. So I feel as though Lady Gaga. I don't want to say flop era because it's just one movie, but she commits herself so deeply to things, so f. I do. While the movie is just like a movie, it was also the last two years of her life and her whole, like, public Persona. And so I'm just, like, having that association with her and you forget, like, that she is that right. She's lived so many different lives and. And she has so many different careers, and she's never really had, like, a floppy music career. Although I think some people would consider Joanna flop, but we would not.

[A]

Literally never. I think the flop is considered art pop. And then I do think history has been kind to art pop.

[B]

That's the thing. It's like, at the time, our pop didn't do well, but now it's reflected on as, like, one of the most genius albums of pop work in our time. Like, yeah, and Joanne just, like, didn't do well. And people, like, never went back and took a second look because if they did, they would see, you know, so much to work with.

[A]

You can't call Joanna Flop. It just means you didn't listen to it.

[B]

Oh, my God, it's so true. And, you know, not to go on my celebrity documentary tirade, but she is doing Joanne while making the five foot two documentary on Netflix about the Super Bowl. And so it's not about Joanne, it's about, like, her super bowl performance. But you do get a glimpse into just, like, the process of Joanne and how Joanne got leaked. And, like, I just think if you're looking for ways to support and respect Joanne, you would watch that documentary or.

[A]

You would stream Joanne.

[B]

Yeah. But for some people, like, clearly that's difficult because they don't do it.

[A]

Take. Take my hand, Claudia.

[B]

What's your favorite?

[A]

Adding that to things to listen to at length. Among, like, I can't listen to Lady Gaga as an artist because it's all so different. If I want, like, one mood. Even though I love Lady Gaga, like, seriously, I'm a little.

[B]

What is your favorite song off of Joanne?

[A]

Grigio Girls, maybe.

[B]

Yeah, Grigio Girls. Pinot Grigio Girls. Also Diamond Heart. So good. Perfect Illusion.

[A]

Perfect illusion is Joanne.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, sometimes we don't deserve Lady Gaga anyways. Here's the tea. On the new album, she said the album started as me facing my fear of returning to the pop music my earliest fans love. She said, rather than simply creating the sound of her early hits. She describes her new album style as being akin to reassembling a shattered mirror. Even if you can't put the pieces back together perfectly, you can create something beautiful and whole in its own new way. Per the release, Mayhem is about chaos and transformation, celebrating music's power to unite, provoke, and heal.

[B]

Okay, maybe I sound crazy and delusional, but it does sound like this is heavily influenced by Joanne. Like, no, let me tell you why. Because she said she's going back to, like, her OG Pop because, you know, the natural progression of her career took her to Joanne. She's always been the type of artist just, like, follow her gut and, like, do what she thinks is best and make the best possible music. And that took her to Joanne, and people didn't want it. She's like, okay, fine, we'll go back and make Born this Way.

[A]

Okay. I just want to say she did put out an album after that, Chromatica. Don't forget Rain on Me, which. Except it was a Covid album and it didn't get the love it deserved because we were not popping at the club. Our post seats at the club.

[B]

It's a club album. It's like literally for like the club.

[A]

Rain On Me is so amazing.

[B]

It's so, so amazing.

[A]

That album was really good. So I feel like that album was like her coming back to pop from Joanne. So this. We're coming back to prop from coming back to pop during COVID Okay. However you want to explain it, I.

[B]

Definitely forgot about Rain On Me. You're right. In that whole era. But I guess she's kind of had like two back to back albums that didn't go her way. One, because people refused to wake up on Joanne and two, because of COVID She didn't make music for Covid. She should have released Joanne during COVID I actually, we were all Joanne Regio girls.

[A]

Joanne was a bit ahead of its time because I feel like that sort of music now is very popular, you know, like Casey Musgraves, Maggie Rogers, like moody country pop.

[B]

So true.

[A]

She was ahead of her time, as she always is, because she's a true artist.

[B]

That's actually a really brilliant point. Had she released Joanne during COVID when people were like eating up folklore type music.

[A]

Folklore.

[B]

Like think about all the people who needed to hear like Grigio Girls while sitting on their couch for a whole year.

[A]

Yeah, but.

[B]

So her timing is off. But she's kind of like William Shakespeare in that sense. Not appreciated in her own time.

[A]

She is appreciated, but she's always ahead of her time because she is like such a true artist, visionary. Also, don't forget, then she was taken to do Star Is Born soundtrack after Joanne. So she was like busy with that.

[B]

And then she did House of Gucci.

[A]

Yep. And then Hold My Hand, Maverick.

[B]

Hold My Hand. I'm so glad you just brought that up. Totally went under the radar because I think when you think about that Top Gun Maverick album, the song that comes to mind that was like so big is the One Republic one. Do you know what I'm talking about? I ain't worried. I ain't worried about it. Right. That song like went number one in every country. It was like the biggest song and it was so good. And I think it was also the song playing when Miles Teller was doing his naked dance on the beach, which I understand, like the impact. So Hold By Hand, which Lady Gaga contributed to that soundtrack, did get a little bit overlooked. And it's disgraceful because I don't know if there was a better song made this century and I'm just. I'm honestly saying that I agree.

[A]

And Hold My Hand got nominated for, like, all of the awards. Awards for. She won and she didn't win, and she should have won. And that's why, like, these awards can't be taken seriously.

[B]

It's so true. They're genuinely meaningless.

[A]

Like, remember that Hold My Hand didn't win. Just remember that.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I don't need to remember it because I think about it every morning when I wake up.

[A]

Then she did f. Do music, which is like, a musical flop, and now mayhem. And I'm ready. Like, I'm ready for Lady Gaga. Making, Doing red carpet, doing press. Like, I just. I love her. She's such a talent. We don't quite appreciate her when we have.

[B]

We don't.

[A]

And I'm probably a part of that too, because she's like. She is so crazy, but that's what it takes to be an artist.

[B]

I am also, like, ready for her to return to music. I like. I like Lady Gaga the pop star more than I like Lady Gaga the actress. And so funny, because I feel like a lot of comparisons are made now between, like, her and Ariana Grande, and I happen to prefer Ariana Grande as an actress than a pop star in this moment.

[A]

I like what she's doing, and I understand why she wants to do more of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Well, see you. Oh, you know what? I'm gonna add that to my countdown mayhem, March 7th.

[B]

Yeah. Because it feels like it's not being put. Where's the machine? Like, the industry is not putting Lady Gaga on our radar. I haven't even heard about her new music.

[A]

Yeah. Well, now I think this is the beginning of the machine. The machine just, like, got finished being built. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story. Yes, Spencer Pratt has passed on and Watch what Happens Live appearance after Andy Cohen's past Heidi Montag diss.

[B]

Yes, I saw this.

[A]

So Spidey won't be appearing on Watch what Happens Live with Andy Cohen anytime soon. As Heidi's career is making a comeback, fans took to social media to suggest she become Bravo's newest addition to Real houses of Beverly Hills. While some may be crossing their fingers for her return to television, her husband Spencer was quick to shut down any possibility for her to hold a diamond. He said, no, thanks. He also said another one asked if they would ever appear on Watch what Happens Live. He said the person who said he would rather scratch his eyes out than watch my wife hard pass when he.

[B]

Was saying this On Twitter. Right. He was like, answering fan questions.

[A]

Yeah. So then someone else was like, they would be lucky to be on Watch what Happens live, he said. Lol. Yeah. So lucky. The guy that bashes my wife gonna be so lucky to sit with him. Rather sit in my burned house or helpful.

[B]

Here's the thing, and this is exactly why I made Spencer Pratt the Queenie of my week, like, two weeks ago. Not only because he's, like, being funny and, like, making great content, but at the heart of what he's doing is, like, he so fiercely loves and wants to protect his family. Like, that I think gets overlooked because people are like, oh, he's so funny. Like, hahaha. But no, no. Why he's doing all of this is, like, in service of Heidi. And he doesn't let. Even though he's like, becoming a big star. Spencer this, Spencer that, that. It's all about Heidi. It's Heidi first. It's Heidi this, it's Heidi that. Like, no, of course I would never. Now I'm. That I'm having a moment. You want me to go on Watch Happens Live, where people disgraced me and my wife? I don't think so. Like, I love that everything he's doing is in service of his family. Like, it's not this, like, selfish, thirsty reality star, you know?

[A]

Yeah. No. Nobody holds a grudge like Spencer Pratt. And you would think, like, and admittedly, like, they want to be on tv, they want to do all these things. So you would think that when those opportunities come, it's like Scruples out the door. We want to be everywhere. But it's like, no, he doesn't forget. He's not going to sit with someone who has spoken poorly about his wife, even if the circumstances have changed now. And maybe, like, he would be nice to them. It's like, right, the north remembers the Pratts, remember.

[B]

It's true. It's admirable that even, you know, like, his grudge supersedes any potential opportunity. Although the story is a little misleading because he wasn't offered Watch Dragons Live and Turn It Down. A fan just suggested, like, you should go and watch Dragons Live.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. The story is misleading because they said he passed on it. But I don't. I didn't see it, like, as a offer.

[B]

No, it was like a suggestion from a fan. He was doing like a Q and A on Twitter.

[A]

Yeah. But in these Q and A's, we find out who he has beef with.

[B]

It's so true. So his running list is just Andy Cohen and Alex Cooper. I think he did have beef with someone, but he just was saying on Tick Tock, like, it's done. Like, they. They've made. They're good. I think it might have been like, Brody.

[A]

Oh, that's good that he's also used the song. He's also a forgiving person.

[B]

Well, what he had said was that, like, this new era of his life, like, people who are in his mind coming for him or whatever, like, they're his real enemies. Up until this point, it's all just been, like, silliness and drama. But now, like, that his life is on the line and his family, like, if you cross him now, like, you are his true enemy. The list was sort of, like, wiped clean, especially by anybody who uses the song.

[A]

Got it. Okay, cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[B]

If it's our fifth and final story? That's brought to you by the Flip off on hgtv. Per chance.

[A]

Per chance, it is.

[B]

Super excited to talk about the premiere of HGTV's buzzy new series, the Flip Off. Trust us, you don't want to miss it. Christina Hack and Tarek El Moussa were married, as you guys of course know, and they're the king and queen of flipping houses, flipping shows, and then they got divorced. That was ten years ago. Oh, my God. Like, I've literally done nothing with my life except sit and think about these two. After 10 years of history and drama and new marriages, these exes are ready to face off to prove who's the best flipper around in the Flip off on hgtv. So it's Tarek and his new wife, Heather Rael Moussa, whom we all know against Christina. And the goal is to flip a house with the biggest payoff. So it's HGTV at its best. But it's not just about the flips. The series serves up stunning transformations, competitive banter, and some deeply raw and at times, uncomfortable personal moments. It's not all glamor and glitz. It's gritty, it's real, and it's totally captivating. We're also going to see Christina and her soon to be ex husband, Josh hall in a super intense exchange on their way to a flip. It's really awkward. And then Christina then spills the tea to Tarik about what's going on in her marriage. And it's, like, super dramatic. I've seen the first episode. The Flip off itself. Like, the competition is just like, fabulous party, hgtv, HGTV vibes. But all these reality stars and like their shared history is genuinely awkward. So Christina and Heather's design chops and I for style are really going to elevate the series with high design that you don't see anywhere. Their mastery as real estate experts, flippers and entrepreneurs is on full display and there are great appearances. So celebrities like Amanda Smith from Selling Sunset, Heather Dubro from Orange County Housewives, and the most surprising, Christina's ex husband, her second husband and Anstead are all going to be joining the competitions to determine the best weekly win. So mark your calendars and get ready for the flip off. It's must watch TV and the reunion of Tarik and Christina is just the cherry on top. Tune into the premiere Wednesday, January 29th at 87 Central to see who wins the first of its kind competition. You don't want to miss it. Today's episode is also brought to you by Caraway. So Caraway is non toxic cookware. It's made modern. So buying cookware is not something I really ever thought like would interest me at all. And then I got my first product from Caraway and I've slowly transformed every single product. Like every time Ben comes home, something new has been replaced from Caraway. Like our food storage caraway, our pots and pans, obviously Caraway, our knives Caraway, our kitchen sisters caraway. They also just came out like a bunch of new. You like utensils. Like there's a pizza cutter, a peeler. Like I cut everything, cutting boards, baking dishes, everything that they offer I am a big fan of. Obviously it's non toxic. So you can, if you're a person who has, you know, health in mind, you can feel good knowing that their ceramic cookware is free from toxic materials. It's also easy cooking. So if you live with Ben Safer who likes to burn literally anything he can get his hands on, it's really easy to cook and clean on. The slick nonstick pans require less oil or butter for cooking and minimal scrubbing for a spotless clean. It's eco friendly, so when produced, their home goods release less CO2 into the environment compared to traditional non stick coatings. So Caraway's Internet famous cookware set comes with the saute pan, fry pan, Dutch oven and saucepan, plus lids for all of them, a canvas holder and a magnetic pan rack for storage. It's the ultimate kitchen setup and it'll save you $150 versus buying the items individually. Plus if you visit CarawayHome.com the toast you can take an additional 10 off your next purchase. This deal is exclusive for the Toaster, so visit carawayhome.com the toast or use code toast at checkout caraway. It's non toxic cookware made modern.

[A]

Thank you, Turtleway.

[B]

You're welcome.

[A]

Our fifth and final story. Miley Cyrus is reflecting on her past mistakes and detours. She said, I would not go back and change anything. So Miley Cyrus shared an Instagram video on Monday with Pamela Anderson. They're talking about the movie the Last Showgirl, which also I think you should watch. Watch, because.

[B]

Yeah, but I think it got like, it didn't get nominated for a bunch of stuff, so, like, it would be a waste of my time in terms of this specific project.

[A]

Oh, damn. Because it was nominated for the Globes and Miley was nominated, but she spoke song. Her song. Yes, yes, yes. Because she has a song on the soundtrack called Beautiful that way. And Pamela Anderson stars in the film. So they sat down together and they were talking.

[B]

And Miley was snubbed for an Oscar.

[A]

And Miley was snubbed just like Lady Gaga.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So Miley recalled wanting to be the Baywatch actress when she grew up. She said, ever since I was little, it was only Pam. When people would ask me what I wanted to be when I grow up, I would say, you and the whole thing, the tattoos, the hair, all of it, that's all I wanted to do. She added that she loved watching Pamela Anderson evolve and felt inspired. She said, I've had so many different pivots and evolutions and one might say detours within my path, but it always ends up coming back around to make the next stage of who we are something that's more potent, something that's more real. Pamela agreed, saying, sometimes you need to go do a little research and come back to your path. She then recalled once telling a director she wanted to let everything go from her past. I don't want to think about it anymore. But then the director goes, no, bring it with you. That's nice.

[B]

Honestly, this era of Miley, like, is by far my favorite one because I feel like she's really not trying so hard. I think that, like, in the past she's really struggled to, like, show us who she is as an artist and as a person. So she sort of put on these Personas that felt a little inauthentic, but she was like, this is me, this is me. And we're like, okay, okay. And now I feel like she's not doing that. She's just, like, doing whatever she wants. And it is Reading so authentically like and it feels like she's really sort of. I know this sounds crazy but like since Hannah Montana and then like the breakdown and I feel like she is now officially like found herself.

[A]

Yes, I would agree with that. And it comes through and everything that she does and she's such a talent. Like she's just so talented in every pore of her body. So whichever she does like is beautiful. But watching her seem so like happy and content and at peace with herself like and just doing the things that she wants. Like she likes this movie and she likes Emily Anderson and she wanted to be on the song and that got her a Golden Globe nomination, not an Oscar because they're fuckers but right. You know, it's all coming with just her being her, her real beautiful self.

[B]

I think also like, like the phase of life that she's in is like being reflected in her music. So she's just like releasing like happy music and you know, self reflective music and music that like for someone at my current stage, like that's exactly what I want to be listening to. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not everything needs to be so sad all the time. I feel like she's having fun. She's looking back and looking forward, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just, I love that and I feel like I've been hard on Miley, you know. So I wanted to say to my smizers, like I think that like this is a really good time. Like we're not even talking about it. That's how like natural it is. It's just like, like she sort of effortlessly settled into this pale center life. Like I know she's in a happy relationship. I don't even know his name. Like. Right. Perfect, Perfect. It's just really good to, to see Miley looking and feeling so good to see her shining. Totally.

[A]

So those are the best.

[B]

And having said that. Ooh, yeah.

[A]

No like everything of who I am is so Hannah coded. Like I'm just. It's so crazy when you think about it. So many of the our inside jokes.

[B]

What's your personal favorite era of Miley?

[A]

Oh, I have so many. But really like Hannah Montana, like the movie that was the most clocked in I've ever. Like seriously, like she was my whole world. So I have to say that, yeah, I have to. The climb like changed my life, changed me, my DNA, my on a cellular level. It did.

[B]

Yeah. I think for me like that period when she was like a little bit more provocative but like in hindsight it was like so normal before she went Like, a little nutty, but, like, she had the really long, like, chestnut brown waves and the can't be Tamed album, which is such a work of art. And she just, like, would wear fringe shorts and she was like a real style icon. And I think she was just, like, having fun before things got, like, dark.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's definitely top. A top era for me.

[A]

Yeah, like Miley and Mandy.

[B]

Miley and Mandy. Correct.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. So every Tuesday, Jackie and I do Dear Toasters, where we read three submissions on air from swirlies who are in need of advice, whether it comes to relationship stuff, work stuff. As of last week, some criminal behavior. Submissions are totally anonymous, so if you ever find yourself wanting to write in to Jackson Claude, you can do so one of two ways. Head over to our website, thetostpodcast.com or write us an email deartoastermail.com both totally anonymous. Don't worry if your submission has not been read on air yet. It might be too long or unfortunately uninteresting. So try and just keep it concise, you know? Hello, Jackson. Turn. I'm in need of immediate help. I'm currently on vacation with my boyfriend and his family, and we were having such a fabulous trip until last night. My boyfriend stayed in for the night with his brother and his parents while I went out to get a drink with his sister. As we got out of our Uber and walked up to the house we are currently all staying at, I literally saw his parents having sex through the window. But it gets worse. His dad was wearing a furry mask. No, I didn't mistake it. And it wasn't like I didn't see things too fast. This man was literally wearing a furry cat mask while having sex. My fiance's sister got out of the car on the other side, so if she saw them, she didn't mention it, but I don't think she did. We just walked in in silence. Do I ask her if she saw anything? Do I tell my boyfriend? Do I go home? Help. I'm actually traumatized. P.S. we've been dating for four years, and I thought his family was so normal. From a toaster who wishes she was blind.

[A]

It's always the quiet ones.

[B]

Here's the thing. They're not hurting anyone, you know, and it's nice to see, like, people obviously, like, this is crazy. But for furries, that's, like, what the community call this themselves. I've heard of it. They're not hurting anyone. And it, like, there's, you know, it's hard to, you know, stay married for so long and keep things interesting, honestly. So if anything, you. I think you could change your perspective here, like, a little bit of a shift from, like, oh, my God, they're freaks, like, being a little, Little judgmental to just, like, honestly. That's sweet. Like, at least, like, you could have seen so many things. A prostitute. Like, you could have seen infidelity. Like, you saw two people who've been together for a really long time who have a beautiful family. We're taking vacations, keeping it fresh. And you know what? Like, maybe it's not for you. Maybe it's not for me, but, like, it is for them. And I think that you can't undo what you saw, right? But you can change how you receive it.

[A]

You can shine a different light on it. Yeah. There's nothing to be done with this information. Do not tell your fiance. He either knows and eek or you're gonna ruin his shout out his business.

[B]

By the way, like, those are his parents.

[A]

This is just for you to know. And, and now you know a little more about your future in laws than you would have bargained for. But everyone's getting close. This is what happens when you, when you share a house. People see things.

[B]

That's the thing. Like, going on vacation is obviously amazing, but sometimes you'll see something you can't forget.

[A]

So he packed his mask.

[B]

I guess. I mean, it's not big.

[A]

So I'm sure, like, growing up, your husband has seen the furry side of him, like, at some point.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Just don't bring it up.

[A]

Do not bring it up. But now you know, and, and you.

[B]

Know what's so funny is, like, as a family, we travel a lot together.

[A]

These trips bring people closer together. And now you're closer.

[B]

Have you ever seen anything, like, walked in on someone?

[A]

One, I don't know if I would even say it right now, but okay. Two, like, no, Nothing comes to mind. What about you?

[B]

Just one thing comes to mind.

[A]

Do I want to know?

[B]

Do you know it? Do you know it? I'm not gonna say it, but, like, I, I, I believe you were there, but, like, you didn't see it. Do you remember?

[A]

I think something's coming to me.

[B]

I'm gonna text you something that I've.

[A]

Previously blocked out is coming forward, and I think it has to do. Let me just text you with the words. I think it has to. Don't text me yet. Tell me if I know it.

[B]

And by the way, guys, don't even guess. Like, they'll take the story to my grave. Like, I didn't. Nobody knows. Like, I just. Yes.

[A]

Yes. Unless our Ted.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You know, unless our texts are in discovery, get leaked.

[B]

Oh, by the way, if we get subpoenaed, we're screwed.

[A]

Also, how did Justin Baldoni keep that voice note? Don't they vanish? Unless the other person keeps it. And even if the other person keeps it, how do you have your own voice note unless it was a voice memo? So he. He workshopped it, saved it, and sent her a little podcast.

[B]

Yeah, I thought it was weird. And I'm like. I'm, like, not coming for Justin Baldoni anymore because people, like, don't want to hear what I have to say, and I get so much.

[A]

And also, like, his case is, like. To be fair, his case is getting stronger and stronger.

[B]

I mean, it's easy to get stronger when no one's responding to you or rebutting anything you're saying. But sure, I thought it was weird that he still had the voice memo. Like, people who keep voice memos are just, like, very nefarious to me. Of course.

[A]

Yeah, People, they disappear. Yeah, but even if I send you a voice note and you keep it, first of all, never do that. But if you did, I couldn't listen to my own voice note anymore. Only you can listen to my voice note.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

So how does he have his own voice notes unless he sent them as voice memos in the voice memo app, in which case he was, like, taking even more time, like, making voice memos and sending her. Which is a podcast.

[B]

Yeah, and people who send voice memos generally, like, have something to hide. Whatever. I don't want to get notes. Voice notes. Excuse me. Yes, it's something you don't want to put in writing.

[A]

But he's sending voice memos. It seems otherwise, how could he have his own?

[B]

And how do you have a voicemail, too, that you leave someone? Like, I get a voicemail, I delete it. Like, I'm just. Sure. Okay, I agree with you. Next up, this one's kind of personal to me. Hey, swirlies. Love ya. My long distance boyfriend was out Thursday night while I was having a wine night with my friends. And when I checked his location later that night, he was not home. Instead, he was at his local police department. I thought to myself, what the. I just decided to go to bed and check again. In the morning. When I woke up and saw no update on his location from the night before, I googled his name and the local police Department and an immediate mug shot pops up. He got a dui. I seriously do not think I can handle this. Ick. I need your advice on what to do. He has since been bailed out and given the run. Given me the rundown of his nearly 20 hour hangout in jail, including the bologna sandwich they gave him for lunch. But I actually can't with him anymore.

[A]

Oh, he told you.

[B]

Do you think a DUI is a deal breaker?

[A]

I just think usually a DUI like, points to a larger issue, so those larger issues might be a deal breaker. I thought for a second he didn't tell you about it. And I was like, well, this is why we can't do long distance. You can get into legit DUI and I wouldn't know about it.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I think it's like, evaluate the relationship separately. Like, I think some. I know not for you. And I do think DUIs are seriously, like, terrible.

[B]

Of course, the worst things you could do.

[A]

But people also, like, make mistakes. So I think there's way towards forgiveness. But it just doesn't seem like your relationship is that serious and you're looking for any reason to get rid of him. And this is a very, very good one.

[B]

Yeah. To me, like, this would cross the line of my moral compass. And if it doesn't cross yours, like, that's not. I'm not. Like, that's fine too.

[A]

If Ben got a dui.

[B]

Okay. But the thing is, like, these are two people in a long distance.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, this is my. That's my husband.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like this father of my child.

[A]

I completely agree with that. It seems like a relationship is unrooted. You guys aren't even together. Like, he could go get.

[B]

No, but I. Right.

[A]

And you're not even the person.

[B]

When we were dating, if me and Ben, when we were dating and it was a long distance relationship, which I just feel like, like, you know, adds already like, trouble to a situation. Complications. He got a dui. Like, I would seriously be like, are you kidding? Like, get a life. I'm sorry. Like grown men getting DUIs. It's just. It's like if you get arrested for like, getting into a fight at a football game, like, you're seriously. You're not a serious person.

[A]

Yeah. I would say it looks like you want to break up with him anyway. This is as good a reason as any.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And if. If you're feeling like it. It doesn't align with your set of values. That's totally valid because I feel the same. All right, Ready for our Third and final. Hey, Jackson Turd. First, I have to share that Yalls podcast is truly the best part of my day. Love you both so much. I'm getting married in a few months and everything has been so great. However, my future mother in law has made some of the planning and prep a bit of a headache. She very much loves her son, maybe a little too much. So some of her actions slash comments I've just learned to ignore, but this most recent one sent me over the edge. After she picked out her mother of the groom dress, she made a comment that she doesn't want my fiance to see it until the wedding day because she wants to do basically a first look. I just ignore the comment, but I actually can't stop thinking about it. Am I crazy to think that that's a really wacky thing to do? We have a great relationship, but the wedding for sure has caused some tension. Should I just show my fiance a picture of her in the dress? Should I tell him that the comment made me uncomfortable? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[A]

I don't think there's anything, like, so, so wrong with this. It's just like, a little sad because I feel like she has these situations. I'm sorry.

[B]

A first look is for a bride.

[A]

Of course, but, like, I don't even think if. If she was like, look at my dress. Like, I don't even think he would be like, oh, I hadn't seen it before. Like, he would have been like, hey, Ma, like, cool dress. So it just makes me, like, a little, like, sad that, that she has this all built up so much in her head.

[B]

And no, I'm not sad.

[A]

And she's not gonna get the reaction that she's looking for, I don't think.

[B]

Well, then maybe you should stop this first look. One, to protect her. And two, like, because it's wrong. Like, there's one first look. Like, nobody, literally, nobody cares what you look like, lady. Like, it's not about you.

[A]

That's why it's making me sad, because she doesn't know that yet.

[B]

So, yeah, you should say, I'll come with you to the next fitting and then bring your husband.

[A]

I don't know what you should do. I could let it go is all I'm saying. You gotta pick your battles. And if you're saying this is finished.

[B]

It seems like she was willing to let it go. And then, like, she couldn't stop thinking about it.

[A]

So it's obviously, you're not letting it go hard enough. You're not more focused enough.

[B]

Well, Then maybe it's not worth letting go. Maybe it's not worth letting go.

[A]

It just seems like it's been a treacherous journey. You've got to pick your battles. I personally would not pick this one. It seems innocuous. All I'll say, protect your peace.

[B]

No, I don't know. Sometimes these need to be put in their place. And a wedding is a perfect place. It's a perfect time to do it honestly, because you can get away with like saying and doing things to your mother in law during the wedding planning season like you couldn't. Like, once the dust settles, like, you have to go back to being a normal human being. But people aren't themselves when they're planning a wedding. So it's like, you know, I just fuck shit up. Say it.

[A]

Say you feel, I guess. Or just let it go. Two paths diverge in a wooded forest.

[B]

Or don't. You know? I think both of our advice is why?

[A]

What if you hurt her feelings and then she goes to your husband and then your husband's on you. Why did you like hurt my mom's feelings?

[B]

Well, if your husband comes to me and is like, you hit my mom's feelings, like, bitch, I had to do what I had to do, like get on board.

[A]

Just, I think it will cause more problems than it's worth.

[B]

Well, to be honest, I actually think like how you handle any like, sort of in law spats during the wedding really sets the tone for the rest of your marriage. Because. And if you're looking for a husband, like, who defends you, like, and I think that's what a lot of women look for when they butt with their mother in laws. Like, you gotta start somewhere.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I think this is a good trial run for you.

[A]

I'm just, I'm a pacifist, you know.

[B]

By the way, so am I. Like, I would never say anything, but I'm a big talker when it comes to deer toasters. I'm like, yeah, up.

[A]

It's true. You really don't put yourself in their shoes.

[B]

No, never. And because if it's actually like me and my personality in the shoes, like I say no, like I say nothing about anything. And you have to seriously have murdered Romeo for me to actually say something.

[A]

Yeah, it's true. So she talks a big talk.

[B]

I do.

[A]

You have to live with your choices. You have to live with them. So how do you want to live? Let it go.

[B]

That's our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the toast of Monday morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We are also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found. So it's Spotify, itunes, Stitcher, Public radio. I hear what you cast. Box all the places web, listen to podcasts, Find us the toast, Leave a five star review. Come on, girl. Like about a beautiful setting and I don't know, say how wickedly talented we are.

[A]

Super easy for you.

[B]

Just an idea. Just an idea.

[A]

Claude. Let's give it a shot. Heart hands. You know how we're cropping the video today, so I think we. Yeah, we have a good chance. Okay, love you. Bye.