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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday.
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Yay. Thursday.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well earned.
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Well earned. Thursday feels good. Almost better than a Friday because, you know, it's all ahead of you. It's all right here.
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I did something so crazy that I haven't told you about that I was, like, waiting to actually share. I wanted to get a genuine reaction from you.
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Okay.
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I did something crazy last night. Crack. Crazier. Literally crazier. I started Scandal. O. I know. Because, you know, I feel like there's actually a lot of shows as a pop culture, like, professional, like, I have a couple of blind spots, and some of them I'm not willing to unblind. Like, Grey's Anatomy. It's never happening. Happening. Our sister Margo loves Scandal so much. A lot of, like, the sounds have been going viral on TikTok. So, like, I feel like the culture was sort of swaying me. Ben wasn't home and I, like, needed to do something. There's nothing on. On Wednesdays for me. So I started Scandal. I have so many thoughts, and I didn't even finish the first episode, like, first of all. And I feel like I honestly, I've seen one episode. I think I've seen them all. Like, I get it. You know, push and pull with her and then they solve a mystery.
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I feel like I've seen the show.
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I have seen the entire thing as of last night. And I'm sure we get to know, like, more members of her team, but she's like, slay Olivia. Olivia always slays. Like, it's very corny. Yeah.
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So you're not going to watch more?
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I don't know, like, don't.
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Like, honestly, I'm not interested in this.
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I'm pulled to, like, of course the romance. And I know. And honestly, something that was a huge motivator. Have you ever seen the clip of them, like, doing an Instagram live during COVID And she asks him, like, what was your. Like, what's your favorite season? And he goes, probably fall. Yeah. And then they're, like, laughing so hard. That actually influenced me a lot.
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Something that happened offline ago influenced you to watch the show six years later that wasn't even in the show.
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I'm just really doing my job at this point, like, as a pop culture professional, like, I Feel like it's kind of crazy that we've never seen Scandal.
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I think of all the things that people are, like, begging us to watch, maybe start with, like, the new Love is Blind.
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Oh, really?
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I've also heard, even though Zach and I. I haven't heard. And I start every season being like, this is shite. These people are shite. This is boring. And so I barely watch. I couldn't tell you one person's name. I've heard it's amazing. I've heard amazing.
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I feel like it's the same hype for, like, when we watch random seasons. Like, yeah, crazy things happen and it's good, but, like, it's never going to be what it was. And I saw somebody on Tick Tock say, like, they need to stop making Love is blind season, like, the experiment has failed. Love is not blind now. And it's like, every season, it's the same trope. There's always a guy who, like, gets matched with a girl who's not his type, and we have to, like, circle the drain where he, like, breaks up with her, pretending that he doesn't just think she's fat, you know, like, it's just. It's not good. Like, once you've seen one, you've seen them all. So everyone being like, this season, no, they're all the same.
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There's nothing better, like, when you're in it, but the amount of work you have to put in to get to a place of, like, euphoria. It's really six hours. And I don't have that to, like, really spend six hours doing something I don't like in service of maybe having an enjoyable experience for three hours.
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Yeah. I also, when I was on Netflix watching Scandal, I almost started watching Age of Attraction, which is the new age.
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That would have been more time.
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I haven't seen people, like, talking about it yet, so I don't know if it's making an impact. And I will. I will watch if, like, people, it becomes, like, culty.
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I. My issue with that show is, like, they act like you can't see someone's age.
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And also, I want to know, like, do we know the ages or do we find out at the end? You know?
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Interesting. I don't know. Let me know. Like, is love truly blind? I would be curious how it is, but, like, you can pretty much gauge someone's age based on looking at them.
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Like, it's just a context. Clue, wrinkles.
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Yeah. Like, I couldn't tell you the exact number, but I could give you a Five to ten year range.
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Right. Do they use tick tock language being like not us going on a date?
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How do they look?
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No, of course. But some people can like look really young or look really old for their age. I do think like maybe they cast people who are, who don't look there, who obfuscate. Like the traditional but based on like clothing and how they talk. Like there are context because you can tell when you're talking to somebody who's much younger than you.
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Yeah.
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Life experience.
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Yeah.
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So did they go to college yet?
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Like, you know, it's like a bit of a flawed premise, but I'm willing to try if people say that it's good. I watched my favorite show last night, Southern Charms season finale.
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I watch clips of the three boys on Watch Happens live.
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They went on Watch Happens. I was wondering who was going to be on last night.
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Do you know that the last time they all went on together they made that very, very famous TikTok. I say a little where they're being Quinn Santana from Glee. Oh my God. That came up on my TikTok because it was like the last time they were all on together, I was cracking up. Craig in those pants.
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I genuinely love the three of them. I need them to stop fighting like Craig and Austin need to stop. And I do feel like Craig is a little more open minded where he's like, this is just the flow and of Austin and I's relationship. Like we sort of need to reset. And Austin's like, I hate him. He's the worst. He's like so obsessed with hating Craig and they need to stop. Like they're meant to be friends. Were they friends on Watch what Happens Live last night?
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Yeah, friendly, like, you know, like I'm
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talking not going along. It doesn't work for me.
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You can't like be on Watch Happens live with your enemies. You know, you're all drinking. It's like fun and light and they're all dressed up out in the city. I'm sure they went out afterwards.
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And then Andy had said that he had a dinner with like John Mayer and the three of them, which is really crazy. And it's like, that's your friend Austin and Craig. Like if you're having dinner with Andy and John Mayer, like just be friends. It's better for your lives to be friends.
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And I feel like Andy, like going out to dinner with Bravo Liberties is kind of a big deal. And then let alone like introducing them to John Mayer is such a big deal because he's always maintained this Level
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of, like, by the way, John Mayer is Shep. By the way, Shep of the South.
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Are we going to talk about Liam McSweeney?
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No.
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You know, her lawsuit against Andy is, like, actually, like, it's going well for her.
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Yeah.
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Andy tried to get it thrown out, and I think that, like, if she has some sort of win, like, it might be, like, a big deal for Andy.
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It's going to be like a public trial.
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So he had tried to get it. He had tried to get it, throw it out. He had tried to get it like, a million things. And the judge was like, no.
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So it's going to trial is the news. Yeah.
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Leah released a statement, like, very excited.
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Yeah. I'm sure we'll hear a lot about it in the next few weeks and months.
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Oh, all that to say, like, Andy so favors the men. Bravo liberties. Like, taking them out to dinner with John Mayer. Like, he would never take D to dinner with John Mayer, you know, never.
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He would never take, like, three, like, eligible women who would love to meet.
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And Southern charm, like, housewives is, like, a very high tier in Andy's universe. Like, Southern charm is considered, I think, one, like, the younger shows. Like, he would never take Madison Lacroix.
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No.
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I just want to say having a baby at the exact same time as Madison lacroix is like, one of the worst things that ever happened to me because she's like us, where she's kind of weight obsessed, but in a positive way. Like, she's always trying to, like, she's actually actively, like, getting to her go. So she was talking. She was talking like, a couple of months ago. She's only, like, seven pounds away. I'm like, oh, my God, I hate this woman. And then yesterday she was talking about how, like, somebody called her Kelly Osborne and how it's like, the biggest compliment she's ever gotten, like, eight months postpartum. And I was like, I need to unfollow you. Like, I really need to unfollow.
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No, I love her. Last night in the season finale, she had her baby and she brought Teddy home. I saw the clip on TikTok and she was in the coup for 10 weeks, so it was like, extra sweet. And you know her older son, Hudson, I forget how old he is, but he's like a little boyfriend.
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Teenager.
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Not a preteen.
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Preteen.
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He's a preteen, and he's holding Teddy and her whole family's there. And, like, it was so serious. Like, I. I wouldn't do it all again.
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So I actually saw that clip also.
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My ovaries are tingling.
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I saw the clip, and I also got emotional at, like, because I saw that Hudson, like, she. She came home, and Hudson was at home, and I was like, oh, I wonder who he's staying with. It was, like, her mom and her sister, and it was like. My takeaway was, like, obviously, it's great that she had a baby, but, like, family's everything. You know what I mean? Like, she probably had to be in the NICU for, like, two weeks. Who's gonna stay at home and watch her son, her first love? It's like your mom and your sister.
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Yeah. Hudson's dad's also in the picture, so, like, she has flexibility there, I'm sure. But it was just, like, so beautiful. She's so happy to be a mom, and she is, like, so funny because she obviously, like, got pregnant. I don't want to say, like, big in her pregnancy. That's what she said. But, like, she's just pregnant. She's beautiful. She was, like, so beautiful the whole season. The looks were slaying. And I remember following her on social media and, like, she gave herself grace until she didn't, you know? And then at the reunion next week in the preview, she's like, I'm back at my fighting weight.
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I have to unpower her.
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Like, I really do. No, it's an inspiration, especially for someone who, like, actually, like, you know, put on the weight.
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Yeah.
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And then took it off. Some people, like, don't put on a lot of weight and then. And I like following those people, too, because I'm like, well, that's magical.
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It gives hope that, like, maybe it could happen to us.
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Just, like, a fun aspiration.
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Yeah.
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But no, someone who, like, put on the weight and then took it off did the work. Like, that's motivational.
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I need to find some influencers who put on the weight and didn't lose it, like, just so I can feel less alone, because I know it happens to, like, normal people all the time. I would say it's the more common outcome. Yeah. I need to talk to those.
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But maybe you are that influencer for someone. Okay, great.
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But, like, even heroes need heroes, you know, I need someone to look up,
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and you are losing weight, so, like, you've left your people in the dust.
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I am, but, like, I'm also, like, really struggling, like, with finding my right dose. I'm in the process of switching. I haven't actually even switched yet because, like, it's just, like, a whole thing. So, like, I'M kind of gaining weight. It's just like. It's not easy gaining weight as you. Well, actually, sorry, I haven't even weighed myself. I just have a feeling I had like 1100 pretzel rods before bed last night.
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I haven't weighed myself in weeks but the jeans that I wear still fit. So like that's good.
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Works for me.
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Yeah. Until I'm off the clock, you know. So another couple weeks.
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Ben got back from New York very late last night.
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What's it called? What's that tick tock sound?
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Care to be sick of me?
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No.
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Like it's over for you bitches.
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No. And it's not.
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I just give you two really good options.
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No, no, no. But. And it's not the one like she's back. But then it's game time. What's that one like? Nicki Minaj. It's game time, bitches.
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I love it. I'm not familiar, but it's game, bitches. It is game tunes. Ben returned back from New York last night with a camera roll full of vlog content. I'm going to try and get it up today. He had kind of a whirlwind day in NYC with our cue lab. I'm wearing like so Q lab today and I've been drinking these spritz. We should have done non alcohol really long time ago because not me with my can. I'm so like Jeffree star with my straw and my Red Bull. You know the Spritz Ex Keels hydration drink?
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Yeah.
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It's electrolytes, it's mixed berries, it's 10 calories and it's available@sports society.com while supplies last. And when you buy it like you actually get the p. PR box. You don't just get like a box of Spritz. You get the PR box which is behind Jackie right now. Inside of it is four cans and the Kiehl's ultra hydrating facial cream. Like love. What else do you need? Hydration from the inside out.
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On the inside and the outside. It was a very exciting day yesterday for the Spritz family Sprites. Us Keels.
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For the Spritz family. AKA our family.
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Yeah. Well, no, we have a lot of like partners and we have, you know, we bring in a lot of like community.
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We're on the Inc. 500 female founders list.
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Yeah, it was.
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Oh my God. Speaking of female founders, please tell me we're talking about Meghan.
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Yes.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. I won't bring it up now.
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No, no, no.
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Well, now we kind of have to get into it.
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But it was a big week for Spritz. Between the founders being on the Inc. 500 list and Kiehl's, everyone's sort of, like, talking about Spritz. So.
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And they're actually like, this was, like, a really fun collab. Like, it's a limited edition and won't be here forever. It's not being sold at Target, by the way. A lot of people ask me that. It's just online, so get it before they sell out. But this isn't actually, like, our big reveal. Like, our big. Our big. Not collab. Sorry. Our biggest launch is. I don't actually know when it is. It's in a couple of weeks. And it will reshape everything. It's going to change everything.
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Oh, I also. I had an idea for Spritz that I need to tell bad. And I just came to me.
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He's gonna be so excited.
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I know, but I knew he was, like, really busy yesterday, so I just wanted to, like, get him at a good time.
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He's gonna be at your house today. Do you know that?
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Okay. So that would be a good time to tell him my. It's not a business idea. It's like, an idea for Spritz.
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Like, a product idea.
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A product idea.
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He's gonna freak that you have an idea. Like, likes it. He's always, like, wanting us to have ideas, and we're just like, we don't have ideas.
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When he, like, sits me down is like, give me an idea. I'm not an idea on the spot kind of gal.
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No, me neither.
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But, you know, after drinking my pargy beverage yesterday of spritzed skills, I had a thought.
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You have to share it with him.
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Okay. I'll tell you.
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He's gonna freak.
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Okay. Without further ado to do, we got a lot to do to do today. And I'll recap Southern charm at the end of the show. I know everyone's on the edge of their seat. Without further ado to do to do, it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.
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Thank you, Turt Farms.
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You're welcome.
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Our first story as we were just discussing, so let's bump it to the top. Is Meghan Markle being slammed for sky high price of luxury retreat in Australia? So Meghan Markle is set to be the VIP guest to headline a women's retreat in Australia for the podcast Her Best Life. Podcast hosts Jackie O. Henderson. It's her retreat.
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You're fucking kidding.
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Kyle and Jackie of former Kyle and Jackie. Jackie O. Henderson. Not me, you guys. And Gemma o' Neill have recruited Megan to lead the event which will focus on, quote, powerful conversations, relaxation, laughter and unforgettable experiences. It sounds like Camp Toast attendees can become a part of the VIP experience for roughly $2,288 or they can lock down early bird tickets for $1,930.
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But that doesn't get you like the second row seating with Megan and the group photo with Megan highest tier.
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Gemma revealed she'd be interviewing Megan as part of the event. According Meghan became involved in the event as a favor to a mutual friend, but noted that she really loves what our community is about. The biggest moment of the weekend, a gala dinner was billed as an in person conversation with Megan. VIP guests will be allowed to partake in a group photo with the Duchess of Sussex and will also receive a goodie bag plus access to an ocean view hotel room. One royal expert said the event offers a rare chance to see a more personal side of the Duchess.
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Okay, the first person I thought of when I heard this was Taylor Shrek. Do you know that Taylor Shreker was fired from SiriusXM for like putting on an event like this, like where it's like a girls getaway and it's like kind of expensive but all in. Like you're kind of getting a good price for the hotel or whatever. Oh my God, I was cracking up. Actually meant to call her yesterday to talk to her about it. Obviously this is an extremely low brow thing. Like, like this is insane.
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Yeah,
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I don't really know what to say besides that, you know, that kind of like is all there is to
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say I'm trying to understand the structure of it. At first, like, it seemed like she's selling tickets to come and meet her. And it's like her.
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Which is misleading.
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Which is misleading. But I don't know if that's actually worse than what it is. Other people are making money off of her taking.
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What do you think she's getting paid?
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She's getting paid, but, like, she needed that lump sum and these people can like, go out and be like, hey, take a picture with Megan.
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So they're going to Australia, like, literally the furthest possible place you could go from the States. I think to like, sort of.
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I can't use support.
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No. And I'm using this word twice. But like to sort of obfuscate, like the criticism that's coming. Like, she. They can't do anything now in America. Like, people are. The way they were obsessed with them. Like now it's really turned the office.
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Do you think they're going to become, like, Australian superstars?
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I think they think if they go to Australia, maybe not superstars, but they could, like, you know, get some good press, make a little bit of money and like, out of the, you know, sight of American media and American critics. But, like, we're following, like, we know. I'm sure she thought this would event with like, it's a random women's luncheon in Australia.
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Yeah. I don't think she thought anyone would care about the random women's weekend.
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So she can make this, like, you know, 100 grand, whatever they're going to pay her, pocket that change and make the trip a little bit more worthwhile, you know.
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So you think they're just like, you know, getting into a new market in Australia?
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No, no, no, not new market. I don't think they care about, like, becoming famous in Australia. I think they, like, need to do stuff, need to make money and they really can't do it in America right now.
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They've also, like, really tapped out in the American market. Market. Like they've gotten money from everyone.
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Yeah.
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The well sort of dried up.
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Or maybe because they are like these ex royals and they do like. She still calls herself the Duchess. You know how part of being a royal is like you go on royal tours. Like you go to the different parts of the Commonwealth. America. Australia is the Commonwealth. Right. So maybe this is like their version of a mini tour. But, like, they can't really get a
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lot of gigs, so they're getting paid.
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Like they're putting together their own tour.
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Yeah.
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And it sucks because like, the opportunities where the real royals actually go there. Like, they can't do the royal stops
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and the royals speak at the women's luncheon. They don't get. The royals don't get paid to go on tour. They probably pay for it well, but
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it generates, like, a lot of revenue for the palace.
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It's good. It's good. It's all goodwill. They're doing their own tour, but they're trying to get paid. They're, like, going on tour.
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Yeah. And I think that the opportunities to do a tour in a country that actually has royal tours, like, there aren't a lot.
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Interesting.
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Just a guess. I mean, I actually don't know.
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I don't know either. But I do think it's true. Like, the. The wells have dried up here. There's really not much more money for them in America.
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Yeah.
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Between corporations and consumers, like. Yeah, we've given all we can. I think they also have, like, a little bit tapped out on Canada because they sort of used Canada. If I were Canada, I would feel used by the Sussexes.
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It's that, but it's also the fact that they're. Canada's really close. Like, we share a lot of media. Like, when things happen in Canada, people. All the Canadians know what's going on in America. They're kind of obsessed with us. Like, it's. It's a shared culture. Don't you feel like.
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Yes.
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North America, this is. They went to the farthest place they could think of. And I don't think that. That. That. I think that that's intentional.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Thinking they could get away with whatever and, like, American media wouldn't pay attention. They were not expecting this poster to have gone so viral on the Internet. Once that poster hit the Internet, the entire trip is pointless.
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Yeah. I feel bad in the sense that, like, what they were trying to do backfired, you know, that's just like.
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Yeah.
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I feel bad for someone whose plan backfired.
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I think it's crazy to spend upwards of three grand for a group photo. Okay. Like, somebody. I have a group photo. Who cares? I have a group photo with Leonardo DiCaprio. That's true.
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But it's. It would be like, a large group photo.
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Yeah. It's like, everyone who bought that tier.
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Yeah.
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Like, that sucks. It looks like a class photo. More like.
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But I guess if it's all, like, business women and they're surrounded, it's like the other people there are, like. You know, it's about the other people in the photo, too, you know? It's like we just look like a bunch of women who are here by our own accord, not that we paid for it.
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What do you think the Royals should do?
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Oh, I think they're cackling.
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No, I'm sorry. I don't know why I said the Royals. I meant Meghan and Harry. Like, what is the right next step? Because they do want privacy, but they do need to earn a living. I don't think that they have enough money. I think all of this, everything is motivated by money. I think they live a very, you know, high.
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But I also think, like, Megan likes going to stuff where people, like, are know her, and if people are paying to see her, like, that's a very comfortable environment for her and that's a fun weekend for Megan.
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Yeah.
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Like, hey, everybody, how.
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But I don't think she's going to have fun. I think, like, this is a business trip.
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No, but it feels good. As if it was walking into rooms and going to award ceremonies and events where it's like, what are. How do people feel about her? What are they saying about her? Like, I think this is actually, like, a very pleasant experience for her, but
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I mean, more so, like, zoomed out. Like, what should their next. Like, nothing they do now is going to satiate, quite literally, anyone. But they do need to work. They don't have enough money. I don't even know if they could. But, like, should they return to the Royal family? I don't even know if that's an option. But Eugenie and Beatrice, like, are.
A
Well, I guess we need members. We need working members. But we did. Even when they left and Prince Andrew was already immersed in scandal when they left. And they left, like, when we needed them. No, we. I'm not a part of this family. Right when they needed them. And then, like, Charles got sick, Kate got sick, and they weren't there.
B
Lizzie passed away, of course.
A
And now they're. They're cobbling together, you know, they're back. And so now you're going to come back. I know. And they finally have bounced back from the bad PR of Meghan and Harry and everything that they said about them. Oh, my God, I would never take them back.
B
No, of course. Just because, like, that's us as human beings. But there's like a.
A
An institution. I think they're bad for the institution firm, you know, bad for the institution. So they could leave again.
B
I think they are bad for the institution.
A
They would come back and they would leave again.
B
It's so settled now. Like, the best thing Is for it to not.
A
Yeah. I mean, I think if money is an issue, which I can't imagine, like, it's such an issue. Like, he. He has, like an inheritance and.
B
Yeah, no, I don't.
A
And they got, like $20 million here and $20 million there. So they got like.
B
But then they, like, bought a $20 million house and, like, they could live,
A
like, a little smaller if they needed to. Definitely, like, a little bit smaller. And I think, like, going back to acting for her, like, isn't the worst idea.
B
It's kind of a no brainer because people don't seem to like her. But the thing about acting is that you pretend to be someone else.
A
And people liked her as an actress. Yeah, they really did.
B
They loved what sort of project, though. Like, it's. She's so recognized. She's almost, like, too famous to act.
A
It would have to be, like, something really incredible, like a really great script.
B
I'm telling you, she's about to release original music. Like, that's like, we're scraping.
A
She's about to be on Real Housewives.
B
Yeah. Honestly, even Real housewives don't do these types of events. Like these girls weekend getaways where you pay $6,000. Like.
A
Yeah, no, it's really crazy that you could have every opportunity and fumble it and fail.
B
Yeah.
A
And they have, like, a lot of powerful friends. Like, why won't someone put, like, put her in a movie?
B
Like Bezos.
A
Tyler Perry.
B
Yes. I forgot that. That he housed them.
A
Yeah.
B
But also, are they. Were they at the Bezos wedding? Because there are a couple of, like, social blind spots for him. Like, why aren't they tight with the Obamas? Why aren't they tight with Kris Jenner?
A
They were at the party. They were at the birthday party.
B
Who was?
A
Megan and Harry. Remember the pictures?
B
Oh, yeah. But I don't think that means they're close. I think probably hate them.
A
But they got invited to the party. Yeah. Chloe hates him. We know that.
B
Yes. Why aren't they friends with the Bezos's? Like, there are a couple of, like, things that make me very suspicious of them socially. Like, I do think they've moved to Montecito. That whole fabulous crew sort of, like,
A
blown through friends and business. They must be, like, scary. Yeah, it's really crazy. Like, imagine having, like, a Netflix show, and Netflix wants to give you a line of product, and, like, all you have to do is, like, decent job, be endearing.
B
Yeah.
A
You get this whole house with its own farm and all your famous friends and Mindy Kaling and famous chefs are coming to teach you, and, like, everyone has a show and get and, like, can keep it going.
B
Someone in this lifetime that I actually trust implicitly is Mindy Kaling. I would love to know. Because they had that awkward moment being like, it's so funny that you call me Megan Markle.
A
I would, like, people made so much of that moment.
B
I don't know if you watch it. Like, Mindy was, like, shook. Like, I would love to know what Mindy thinks, you know, behind closed doors.
A
Like, does she still hang with Mindy?
B
I don't think they ever really hung, you know, I think she got the opportunity. Maybe they'd met a couple of times. And of course you take that opportunity. But I could see Mindy, like, really not liking her.
A
Yeah. I think they really need to lay low and do the thing they said they were gonna do.
B
Yeah.
A
Which is the privacy. The privacy. But no. Spend a couple GS to come and take pictures with me. That's privacy.
B
That's. It's just like. It's so low brow.
A
No, it's really. It's insane. Everything they said was a lie. Everything.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Because they had enough money to not have to.
B
If they lived a very small private life.
A
Plenty of very small. His inheritance.
B
Yeah.
A
Sorry. No, not over $20 million.
B
Not like, not living in, first of all, the most expensive neighborhood in the country. They live in Montecito.
A
People are giving them houses. Right.
B
Tyler Perry literally gave them a house. Not like, you don't need. If you're not like, a public figure. You don't need stylists. You don't need glam, you don't need publicists. You don't need age. Like, you don't need all these things. Like, you can really. She probably still needed, like, a publicist, but, like, you know what I mean?
A
Yeah. No, they. A very small life. They have, like, means him from his mom, like.
B
Yeah. And then her from, like, a successful acting career.
A
Yeah. And if they had, like, just made themselves a little more scarce, you know, it wouldn't be three grand for a meet and greet. It'd be like 1050.
B
Yeah.
A
Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Alex Warren's on Caller Daddy talking about the Grammys malfunction. Oh, my gosh. Alex Warren, like, my heart.
B
Your boyfriend.
A
He's. I wouldn't call my boyfriend because I don't feel like I have a crush on him. Like, I look at him like a son.
B
Your brother. Son.
A
I'm cracking. He's like a son to Me.
B
So beautiful.
A
Also, you know what? I discovered a new artist who I think is, like, very much in the zeitgeist and Somber. Gen Z. No, not somber. Even though I like that song.
B
Me too.
A
No. Sienna Spiro.
B
Yes.
A
And I like, blame all of you and you and Margo. Like, why didn't anyone tell me? I had to find her on my own.
B
I didn't know that you needed to be told about, like, literally the biggest song in the.
A
No, no one. I know.
B
Nothing could matter. So good.
A
So good. So I saw a video of her, like, just singing on my Instagram. So I now in my car, like, I went to Sienna Spiro and I listened to a bunch of songs and I was like, you fucking bitches didn't tell me. She's amazing.
B
We didn't realize. And I think I speak for Margot as well.
A
Like, we didn't realize, like, how I needed an invitation. How little you knew I needed an invitation. Because it's not just that one song.
B
She's very like Gen Z. Amy Winehouse.
A
Adele. Adele. And that's really seems.
B
It's not just that one song.
A
A theme. Like Olivia de Ray. And like, this seems to be like a new genre. It's kind of.
B
It's not a new genre. Like, mostly British.
A
It seems to be not. It's always been a genre that is really popular right now. And I'm like, I love this.
B
And a lot of it's coming out of the uk. You got to go to the uk.
A
Like, you would think there's so many things.
B
The palace. Of course.
A
Yeah. The history. You know, that's really my concentration. Of course. Is English history. Up Downton.
B
Downton.
A
I'd like to see Downton. I feel like maybe it would.
B
It would like destroy that. Yeah. It would be like crusty and old. I actually follow Downton. The castle.
A
Yeah. Because onto like a walking castle.
B
Yeah.
A
And I will say, like, the mistake.
B
The magic is gone.
A
Yeah. Oh, speaking of Julian Fellows, I sent you this yesterday. Gilded Age is casting for a newborn baby.
B
Yeah. So people are like guessing in the comments that it's Gloria's. Oh, like the daughters, like, got married.
A
I was just like, if you want your baby on gilded agent.
B
It's insane. They're. They're casting a newborn to five month old. Like, I can't. Like, that's insane. You should do it. Do it. You could be like those people from the Valley, Danny and Nia.
A
$300 a day.
B
It was eight hours for a baby. For $350.
A
That's insane. Seriously, at that point, it was $350 an hour. No, it didn't say that.
B
Yes, it said 350/8 hours. I feel your baby to be tortured. Don't do it, guys.
A
Oh, my God. Don't do it. But, like, if you really want your baby to be on the Gilded Age, I guess, like, here's your chance.
B
That's like, of all the places that your baby could be, it's kind of an amazing place.
A
No, like, it was kind of an incredible thing to see. Like. Like you could have your baby beyond the Gilded Age.
B
Well, that's what I learned from Danny and Nia from the Valley, that they. Their twins are the twins on Young Sheldon.
A
Yeah. And because they're in the business, like, Danny has been an actor his entire life. Like, it's less odd to me. Like, he knows the sets, he knows the schedule. Like, you know, let's go, baby. Like, yeah, but like, I don't know, it's really crazy, but when I see
B
like, really little babies on tv, I'm always thinking, like, who the fuck would do that? And then I met two people on the Valley who do it. I think it's so crazy.
A
Actually busy enough in the age of,
B
like, CGI and AI. I really feel like it's eliminated the need for baby actors.
A
Well, but then frowned on. Like, remember in American Sniper, he was holding a doll.
B
And that's why it's one of my favorite movies, because they didn't abuse a child just for a scene. And when you think about, like, birthing scenes and there's like, babies covered. Do they, like, cover newborn babies in, like, paint?
A
I don't know.
B
I don't know. When you think about it, it's really dark. And I just feel like I would rather watch a movie that has like, some of the shittiest AI baby versus, like, the cutest real life baby. Like, leave the babies alone actually.
A
Yeah. Where are they getting these babies? Like, who's doing that? And what new mama is like, subjecting herself to a day on set?
B
It's not enough. And it should be the most over
A
the highest job paid person on set.
B
Let me see, hold on. What's 350 divided by 8?
A
8 divided by 8 or times 8 divided by 8?
B
It's $44 an hour. Like, I'm sorry, that's not enough.
A
Can you do it by times eight to see if maybe it's for eight hours? If it was 350 an hour, that
B
would be almost three grand. But I'm letting You know, I'll pull up the poster right now. It was not.
A
I could like see people like doing that for three grand. That seems okay.
B
If you have twins.
A
Possible.
B
You get 500 for eight hours. It's literally dollar sign. 508 hrs. Yes. If you have one baby, it's 350. So you're getting like shafted if you have twins because you're not even getting double. Yeah, but I guess each baby gets tortured half the time.
A
It's a discount. Or unless they needed twins for the
B
scene they're casting for twins and single babies.
A
Yeah.
B
To portray newborn. Oh my God. That's insane.
A
Really, really crazy.
B
I'm gonna start a charity where like if you're thinking about doing this, like, I'll just give you the 350. Like it's really not, it's not worth it. It.
A
I, I really have to believe in my heart that it's the three grand because that like it's not. I. I just, it's.
B
I'm just telling you, it's not like I'm. I just read the poster like.
A
No, but I think people are misunderstanding. Can you read the comments?
B
So funny. I went to the comments, like looking for people enraged. It was just like tagging their friends. Oh no. Somebody. But somebody commented. Thankfully. This is obviously a new comment. That rate is so low for babies in eight hours. Baby under six months are only allowed to be on set for two hours and work 20 minutes. Oh, I didn't know that. I guess that's like the SAG rule.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. They're paying even less for twins. Absurd. My baby is a legitimate professional newborn actress. Her rate usually starts at 1200 for 2 hours gross, minus agent fees. It's sad when production companies try to hire talent direct and un under bid their worth to save money.
A
I don't understand how a woman who has a two month old like already has all of this in place. Okay, well now like not only just is her baby two months, now I'm
B
on the page, so that's not a lot of time.
A
But she's two months postpartum.
B
Now I'm on the page.
A
She's ratata with the agents. This is my baby's rape.
B
Now I'm on the page of a woman. The woman who says she has a professional acting newborn. The newborn also has an Instagram page, but it's private. It just says like model and actress. Model and actress. And the baby was born 1226. So that's a three month old baby.
A
What? And so did she decide that her baby was going to be an actress before the baby was born, or she met the baby and was like. Like, you've got.
B
Do we have her on the show? Like, I don't.
A
I don't really know, honestly. Like, I don't want to be really judgmental.
B
I know.
A
Judging.
B
I'm like, letting you know we're not. Like, we are. We sound judgmental.
A
Like, no, but I think. But I. I think I can own that.
B
Yeah.
A
I think I'm gonna own that one. Yeah.
B
Agreed.
A
That's really crazy.
B
Yeah.
A
Anyways, Alex Warren is opening up about his tech malfunction at the grant.
B
Oh, right. Sorry.
A
He's like a brother. A son to you. He's like a son to me. And then I just wanted to let everyone know, like, I've discovered Sienna Spiro. Like, oh, right. To any of you. And I'm really, like, having a renaissance with the music of this generation. Like my son, Alex Warren. Right. So he was on Call Her Daddy and he talked about the Grammys, which we all saw there was sound malfunctions. He looked like he was gonna cry. And he's explaining what happened, like, how bad it was and, like, seriously how horrified he was. So he said, I've never talked about this. It was horrifying.
B
I like who? He says, I've never talked about it. It happened a week ago.
A
I thought the same thing.
B
Like, what opportunities have you, like, turned down?
A
Like, stop. Don't clown on my. Sorry.
B
Sorry. No, I love. I love your son. He's a great. A great man. And he obviously gets his singing abilities from his auntie.
A
He said, we rehearsed it all week. He said that everything went perfect while practicing. And to this day, I don't know exactly what happened. He explained that very shortly before his turn in the best new artist performance medley, something happened and everything cut out in his in ear devices. They're like 30 seconds. And I said, I can't hear anything. I can't hear myself. And the guy's like, it's live TV. 25 seconds. And I go, guys, something's wrong. Something gets blasted into the left ear and right ear. I hear nothing. And I go, guys, I can't hear. The technical difficulties persisted, which he accepted were just meant to happen. Crew members tried fixing the issue by changing the volume, but it didn't work. He said, I start singing and all I'm hearing is what's from the other room. Like a crowd mic is on or something. Once I start getting into the hallway, there's this hallway in the performance, I get the left ear blasting again. And so it's just the left ear. He then said that the audio in his ears was mono rather than stereo and therefore difficult to hear. There's no mix to it. So all I'm hearing is my voice super loud. I get down to the steps and then immediately I start hearing hearing echoing on the right ear. So I take it out. And then that made it worse. Stupidly. He said when he reached the stage, his in ear devices started working correctly again. When we rehearsed it, they weren't expecting 20,000 phones to be on and everyone was filming. And so the RF cut it out. And then once I got to the stage, because there's two fins I would assume once we got to the stage, I got it back. I don't understand that. He said.
B
I don't know. He had 30 seconds to go and
A
he told them what was wrong.
B
And like it sounds like no one was taking him seriously.
A
Yeah, maybe. So I guess something he was trying to say that like all the phones in the arena like like blocked the signal.
B
They were on the whole time and they worked for everybody else.
A
But he was also starting his performance in a hallway where you know, if it's like made of concrete, it's harder to get a signal. But he practiced in a hallway. But that he didn't practice in the hallway with the 20,000 phones. But then it came back.
B
He's being hella gracious. I would be pissed.
A
He also said that he has a fear fights and then he I get
B
up on that thing.
A
And so he didn't love that. But by then it was working. And then he just wanted to cry, but he didn't want to cry on live tv. And I think he handled it well because like we knew he was disappointed. I'm glad that like we knew that. But I'm glad that he didn't completely break down. He also couldn't have stopped singing like right. And been like this is doesn't work.
B
I mean I kind of would have done that.
A
I know you would have emotionally, but it would be so unprofessional. Yeah, it's better to have a bad performance and to be no performance. Yeah, yeah. He handled it really as best as he could. So so sad.
B
I'm glad he's like finally talking about this, you know. I feel like so like I just. I've been like dying here for like
A
he posted a tik tok the next day.
B
Kidding.
A
I'm like cuz he's finally talking you're
B
so out of the way. No, I know. But also, like, he's like, I've never talked about this before. Yeah. Cuz it happened last week.
A
Like, excuse me.
B
Sorry. I know that's your son. I would never disrespect.
A
Like, stop. He's opening up, he's sharing. And I feel really bad for him, but, like, he'll be okay. You know? Then he obviously didn't win Best New Artist and he was bummed about it, but we know that it's a curse, so he.
B
Yeah, I would actually be happy to win.
A
Even though I am worried for Olivia Dean. Like, I know.
B
Even though she's crushing it, you know, hard new song. It's a culab with Sam Fender called Reign Me In.
A
No, I didn't know.
B
Okay. I think you'd like it. So this is me telling you.
A
And I also blame Spotify, our partners at Spotify, because my release radar, I don't feel, is doing, like, the most amazing job keeping me abreast.
B
Got it. Okay, so if you want to jot this down, it's called Reign Me In.
A
Let me, you know, I'll play on my phone. So when I get in my car, it starts playing. That's a nice feat.
B
It's going viral on the Talk right now.
A
Like the, like, R E, I, N. Oh, interesting. Because I would have thought it was like. Like raindrops.
B
No, like, to reign someone in.
A
Yeah, Yeah. R, E, I, N. Sorry, I said twice. E, I, G, N. There's a lot of ways to spell. Right. Okay. I like Sam Fender, too.
B
Yeah, I know.
A
That's like my elk of music.
B
You're British.
A
I'm British. I am. You are British. Maybe I'm British.
B
I'm Latina.
A
Like, remember how, like, we said, like, in a past life?
B
Yes.
A
You're like King Henry's little brother.
B
Yeah. And you're Queen Anne, whatever her name was.
A
I'm King Henry's little sister.
B
Literally. I don't get it.
A
You don't remember? Like, I don't know how I remember,
B
like, vaguely this conversation, like, from, like,
A
eight years ago that we said that in a past life, you are King Henry's little brother.
B
I'm like, why did we say that?
A
I don't know, but it feels right. Okay, and if I'm British and I'm your sister, that means I'm King Henry's little sister.
B
I, more so like, don't understand why it's so funny. Do you know what I mean? Like, usually we're cracking up together, like, I don't get it.
A
Stand up in the comments.
B
Is that funny? Yeah.
A
Oh, we always had the best time. Oh, British.
B
I forgot I'm, like, doing stuff.
A
Oh, you want to do the ads? We only just did the second story. Oh. Actually, the third story is, like, really light and really funny, so I'll just get to it. Yeah. Carlos Sofia Gascon is trolling Timothy Chalamet,
B
throwback to Carlos Sofia Gascon. I. There was a time. And this is what's so crazy. Like, sort of the Key Asylum, kind of in caps. It's crazy how there's, like, a period where we are talking about somebody every single day. And I swear to God, if you didn't bring this up, I never would have heard that name ever again.
A
No, I know. And also. But that was also by design because she was canceled. Yeah.
B
I don't know if you guys remember, Carlos. Sofia Gascon was kind of a trailblazer. She was a star of Amelia Perez in Amelia Perez. Yes. She's trans. And so, like, she was sort of
A
like, in the movies about trans. She was surgery.
B
She was like an eight girl.
A
Vagina.
B
Penis to vagina. Vagina.
A
It's about a trans drug lord, right? Yeah.
B
But not even drug lord, like a
A
cartel leader that then is who takes
B
off his glasses and realizes, like, it's the craziest movie ever. Like, literally the craziest movie I've ever seen. It's a musical, too. It's a musical, and it, like, they literally sing about. About vagina to penis to vagina. I'm not making that up. That's an actual.
A
And they literally sing labiaplasty in the song.
B
Yeah, the song is called. If you want to listen to it, it's on Spotify called. It's called Vagina Plasti.
A
It's a literal.
B
It's all in Spanish. Selena Gomez is.
A
Gomez is. That's the other part. And Carla Sofia Gasco and Zoe Saldano, like, she's the star.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
And during the award season when she was, like, seriously the it girl of Hollywood, the ball, they found her old tweets. It's seriously just a tale as old as time. And then she was never to be seen again.
A
Yeah.
B
But now, I guess she's popping up. Literally everyone coming out of the woodworks.
A
She likes Timothy Shallow and the old tweets, like, came up before the Oscars. So, like, she was still at the Oscars, but, like, you know, totally hidden.
B
Oh, yeah. And she was, like, pretending that those tweets didn't exist.
A
Yeah, it was just over for her before it even started. And so she is finding a parallel in what Timothy's going through right now. And she posted a meme saying, oh, like, of her and Timothy on the phone. I guess that was like, a funny meme. Like, he's calling her for advice.
B
Oh, funny.
A
And she said, hola, Carla. Do you think they're gonna make me pass the red carpet at the Oscars laughing emojis?
B
Because, oh, I guess she got her.
A
And this is forced. She said, are you a trans woman? Then don't worry about it, Tim. Even though I don't think that's what happened.
B
I don't think they kicked off the red carpet because she was trans or
A
that, like, she got a harsher punishment because she was trans fans.
B
No, because she really was probably, like,
A
very hard for, like, them to be. Like, wait, yeah, more offensive, I feel. Oh. She said, besides, I love ballet slippers and I've seen the Phantom of the Opera ten times. Not sure if that counts for anything. Best of luck with the awards. So she's like, so sweet, honestly, throwing salt. No, she's like, I love the ballet.
B
I guess what she's saying, I guess she sees her situation mirrored in his because he's up for an Oscar, but this isn't a real scandal.
A
Like, he didn't say it's not a real scandal. Like, she thinks that he's going to be treated, like, totally fine because he's not a trans woman. And she was, you know, thrown in the corner.
B
Right.
A
Because she's a trans woman, not because of the tweets.
B
And this is one of those situations where, like, if you don't, you know, the Timothy scandal, but you haven't seen the interview, like, if you now go watch it, it will seem like so not a big deal. And it's so funny because people don't actually know what he said. I was watching this, like, actually terrible take on Tick Tock today of, like, a girl talking about, like, her take and being like. And Timothy said, like, that ballet and opera is dead. That's actually not what he said. He just says, nobody cares. So it's like people don't even know what. What he actually said. They're all just, like, giving their takes on opera and Broadway. I mean, excuse me. And ballet and, like, where were your takes before this? Like, you're not a true supporter of the arts.
A
Yeah. I also feel like the way that this tweet is written from Carla Sofia, Instagram story, it's giving, like, Real Housewife And I feel like I could see her on the Real Housewives, you know,
B
I just want to say, I would
A
love, like, the way that she's talking. It's like, what are you saying?
B
The Carla that we were seeing before, she was, like, actually escorted out of the award. Words was. She was, like, funny and kind of crazy and just, like, really giving.
A
Like, is that what we were seeing?
B
Marisol's mom from Mama Elsa? Yeah, she was giving Mama Elsa just sort of like crazy older woman energy.
A
Yeah, I could see it. I wonder where she lives.
B
I don't know. She would thrive with the Real Housewives of Miami.
A
Yeah. She's also acting like she's better than Timothy. Like, I love ballet. Like, even though you. You know what I mean?
B
I was escorted off the red carpet. I also love ballet. I kind of miss her.
A
I know. Me too. It's, like, fun to hear from her. Yeah.
B
And that was such a crazy. A crazy award scene season.
A
That was really crazy that that happened because, like, Amelia Perez was everywhere and then was, like, came to a screeching halt.
B
People are saying that one battle after another is much like Amelia Perez. Like, that.
A
It's very bad. But, you know, people are like, are
B
we talking about the same movie?
A
Well, that's what I feel about Sinners now based on. And it's the same thing I saw. I. I just. People talked about Amelia Perez. Amazing movie. So I was like, amazing movie. I never saw it. I saw it, and then I saw, like, two or three clips and I was like, whoa.
B
Horrified. Yeah.
A
Whoa. And then I saw that one Sinner's Clip. I would have assumed Sin was, like, a good, normal movie. Like, I wouldn't think anything of it. It's like, star studded and it's award nominated. Great. And I'm like, whoa.
B
Yeah.
A
Whoa, guys. Yeah, though, like, really Seinfeld movies these
B
days, like, are just bad.
A
No, like, poorly written. Maybe bad.
B
Maybe the Elk of movies, like, has changed since we were kids, you know, in what.
A
In what way?
B
They're just kind of crazy now. Like, when I watched all the award movies last year, which was such a fun thing to do, I couldn't. That, like a Nora was the film that watched. And people are always like, you don't get it. I hate when people say that. I actually think, you don't get it, because bad is bad. Just like, people love to say, like, well, you just didn't get it. But it also. It could have been bad.
A
Yeah. You could have not gotten it and it been bad.
B
No, I got it.
A
That's what. But it wasn't bad because you didn't get it.
B
And when I just think of like the elk of movies that used to be like when we were growing up, I hate to be like a grandma. Like, movies that won all the awards.
A
They were like Millionaire, Slumdog Millionaire.
B
Like, there are amazing, amazing movies.
A
Titanic, 12 Years a Slave.
B
You know, like they were making real movies. And then I watched Anora like this actual student film pornography. I'm like, this just won the same award as Titanic. Like, that's insane.
A
Yeah, insane.
B
And there actually were a couple of movies. I watched them all last year like that. If they won, I would have understood it. Honestly. A movie that really stuck with me.
A
Conclave.
B
Conclave. So, so good.
A
Are you ready for our fourth story?
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A
Not to spoil it, but I've heard it's amazing. I was with Dana this weekend. We were talking about the movie coming out. She said it was one of her favorite books. I am very excited for the movie, especially now that I'm in my, like space movie.
B
Right.
A
And maybe I'll have to listen to the audiobook first. Just to, you know, immerse yourself as
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A
Oh, we're all done. Just refilling my beverage. Like my cute cup.
B
Very cute.
A
I'm in a cute cup.
B
Mood up.
A
Okay, our next story. Exciting news. Casey Musgraves announces her new album with Texas Roots coming out on May 1st. So she announced her new studio album. It is called Middle of Nowhere and it is her follow up album from Deeper. Well, yes, the Architect. The description for the album notes that it is a collection of songs that draws from a love of Texas dance. All classics, humorous takes on the human condition and the space where traditional country borders many sounds including including Nortenio and even Zideco. She said in a statement announcing the album's release that it was made during the longest period of time that she was single. During that time she was living between Texas, Tennessee and Mexico and the album came out of a lot of time for creative ambling. She said, I became fascinated with the concept of liminal space, both geographical and emotional. We don't linger in these transitional empty spaces long enough and rush to define where or whatever is next.
B
So I want to say I'm like really open to receiving this album for a multitude of reasons. The description sounds like OG Kelsey, Casey and I've a lot of people don't realize, like, I invented Casey Musgraves. Not only, like, in my family 100. Don't even try. I was like, at one point in time.
A
That's okay.
B
But yeah, at one point in time, like, nobody on the planet was a bigger Casey Musgraves fan than me. And it was, like, fun and exciting when Golden Hour, like, blew up. There were two albums before that. Just, like, people don't know that they know her from Golden Hour.
A
We're really excited about this album. Thank you. Could listen to those too.
B
Yeah. And she got like all this, like, mainstream success from that. And I do feel like it influenced the type of music she released. And I think she went so sideways with Breadwinner. I did not like it.
A
It was so.
B
It wasn't for me.
A
Space Cowboy.
B
No, that's Golden Hour.
A
No, it's not.
B
It is.
A
No, I don't think it is.
B
No, it is.
A
Hold on. There's an album in between. There's not Space Cowboy. Oh, that is.
B
Okay.
A
What's the other?
B
And then right after that was the red one. I think it's called Breadwinner.
A
High Horse.
B
Is that the name of the album?
A
Is that from?
B
That's also on Golden Hour.
A
Star Crossed. That's the album.
B
The red one.
A
Yeah.
B
That's Breadwinners on that one.
A
Right? That was like the lead breadwinner.
B
That was all about her divorce. That was the album after she had all this mainstream success and I feel like she was making it for, like, the new fans. It was like, very much edging out of country and it wasn't for me. And I feel like maybe she got like a little swept up and just being the most famous girl in the world.
A
I also think because she was having so much like pop success, Hollywood success, that's where she was spending her time is very like la.
B
She was at the Kardashian Halloween party.
A
Right. So she was making, like, music for that time in her life, which wasn't the same time that came before nor after.
B
And so not only was that music, like, not for her OG fans. I don't even think, like, her new fans liked it that much. I think that's probably her least commercially successful album.
A
They were fair weather fans, I would say. Yeah.
B
And then she stripped down a little bit. I think she took some time off, Did a lot of self reflection on the Deeper well album, which is very good and it's very reflective. So it's kind of like not a sad album, but a deep album.
A
Yeah, it's a Deeper well. Now I feel that songs such as the Grammy winning song the Architect, and the toasty winning song the Architect, like, there are some songs on there, like, the message is messaging.
B
And now I feel like she went so far left, she rebounded, she came back to herself. And now I feel like this album is going to be the most similar to, like, what she's really known for. She has a song with Miranda Lambert on there. That's the kind of the lead story because. Because apparently her Miranda had beef. I didn't know about it. And now we know it's about the song Mama's Broken Heart, which is Miranda Lambert's most successful song ever. And it was actually written by Casey Musgraves and. But. And other songwriters. But Casey's one of the lead writers on it, and I. I guess she had plans to, like, keep it for herself. She wasn't an artist yet. She was just, like a very successful songwriter for other people. But she was gonna hang on to this one. Somebody sent it to Miranda without telling her. Miranda loved it so much, and Casey was like, I kind of had to give it to her. Like, with all the other songwriters, it's like, that's how you make your money. I couldn't, like, screw my fellow songwriters because I wanted to keep this one song. And it ended up becoming so big. A lot of people made a lot of money off of it. And then Casey was like, but you know what? I wouldn't have done same trailer, different park if I had done Mama's Broken Heart. So, like, everything worked out for everybody. But she was like. She, like. She said an interview. She's like, I just kind of hated Miranda Lambert because, like, a little bit of resentment. And so they were not friends. They weren't like, enemies, but they, like, didn't like one another. And then when Casey was writing this album, she realized that her Miranda are kind of like, similar vibes with their, like, divorces and everything. And so she just reached out and was like, I have this funny idea for a song. Would you sing it? And Miranda was down. I think that I would be best friends with Miranda Lambert. And so I'm glad that Casey and her are connecting. And Miranda's very country. Like, she doesn't even bother going pop.
A
And also, Willie Nelson is on the album, which, like, if Casey Musgraves isn't, like, doing something with Billy Nelson or talking about.
B
Yeah, they have music together.
A
She's not Casey Musgraves.
B
Yeah.
A
Billy Strings sounds like a country person. And Gregory Allen ISS yeah, no, I'm
B
feeling positive about this.
A
Me as well, because deeper well, to me was like, it wasn't like, you know, banger season, but it checked all the boxes. It was an amazing album.
B
Yeah. I do feel like she, like, that Grammy was like, almost a little bit of, like, a curse for her, you know?
A
You know, and I think at the time, everyone knew that it was good. I think she probably even knew, like, because how do you seriously win album of the year for, like, such a small artist? As a small artist and everyone ever match that on the next one? Like, you don't. It is gonna be like, a slump before it gets better. And I feel like everybody knew that was coming.
B
And also, I think if you're looking at, like, the country swirlies right now, like, I think for a while, like, a couple of years ago, a lot of them ventured into, like, country pop. And that's where, like, the success was, like, the Marin and Kelsey. And now I feel like the girls who are really, like, killing it in country are really reverting back to, like, Ella Langley type, like, Miranda Lambert type. It's a real, like, country. And so hopefully she follows that trend a little bit and goes back to
A
her, like, some of the country pop, like, girl, he's like, went there and, like, didn't come back and didn't. And nothing really happened over there. I feel like the trend the same way that, like, everyone's listening to, like, this soulful, like, music right now, like Olivia Dean. It's like they stopped sort of listening to, like, country girly pop. Not me, because I'm a country fan, but, like, the fair weather fans who were like, oh, we like Casey Musgraves and Marin Morris. And now they're like, and now we don't.
B
And I feel like I'm not to blame her, but, like, it's Loki Taylor Swift's fault. Like, she had this insane crossover. And I think a lot of people then tried to replicate it it with this, like, fearless type of country girl pop. And a lot of the girlies followed her, and it worked for a while. But now I think, like, what's popular with women in country is this very, like, rodeo. Megan Maroney, Ella Langley, like, very country. It's very girly country, but it's not pop at all. It's country.
A
Yeah.
B
So hopefully Casey follows suit. I don't think Miranda would sign onto a project that was even remotely pop.
A
I feel like this is not going to be pop. It's giving, like, more deeper. Well, like, musings and just sort of like, Poetry set to music.
B
I could go, like, a little more. More upbeat. Deeper.
A
Well, like me to, like, contemplate my entire existence every time I listen to the Architect, but the Architect, like, was. Is one of my favorite songs of all time. I actually forgot about it for a while, like, until this conversation. I need to go stream this.
B
So good.
A
It's so good.
B
I'm looking forward to becoming, like, a huge Casey Musgraves fan again.
A
Yeah.
B
Not that I ever, like, I wasn't a hater or anything. I just, like, wasn't keeping up as much because it really didn't feel like it was for me.
A
You felt left. Left behind. I did.
B
And I really did not like that Red Album. Star Crossed.
A
She's coming back for you.
B
Yeah, she left me behind.
A
And don't forget how we felt about Deeper. Well, I feel like we already forgot.
B
No, no, no, no.
A
But, like, like, that was her going back to her roots, and now I feel like she's gonna, like, step out a little more, but hopefully not stray too far.
B
If you're interested in being, like, a real Casey Musgraves fan, not like a Fair Weather Star Crossed fan, I highly recommend listening to Dime Store Cowgirl. Like, that song makes me cry every time I hear it. It's so sweet. Like, she. She was just. She's so precious. I'm telling you, I have really high hopes.
A
Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Somebody got eliminated on the Masked Singer. Mass Singer reveals the identity of High Voltage.
B
Yeah, I was like, my. I have a. You know, people have a biological clock. My body knows. It's like Wednesday after 9:00'. Clock. I'm like, I have to check the Messinger Reddit.
A
So I actually didn't. I picked the story, but I didn't look at who it was until now. And you ain't gonna know who it is. Alex Lawless. Alexi Lawless, who is a soccer former soccer player turned Fox Sports analyst.
B
Apparently, he's an amazing voice. People were really shocked. I don't know who he is. So, like, that's always, like, not exciting when you don't know the person.
A
No, that's not exciting at all. Did people guess this?
B
I don't think so. I think it's like a hidden talent of his because he's like a soccer player.
A
Oh. And he's like.
B
He's handsome.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
He's like a dad. Yeah.
B
Like a daddy.
A
Or dad? Like a dad. Like, he looks like someone's dad. Like, father. But I don't know if he has kids.
B
I know just the woman.
A
So great job.
B
Your son, Alex Warren and your dad, Alexi.
A
No, my dad and my brother, King Henry.
B
Of course.
A
Of course.
B
It's a family affair today.
A
How many people are left? I know. Like, I expect you to know everything about the massing room.
B
You're the one watching. Like, I actually don't know. I know nothing. There's still a lot of people left.
A
Oh, really?
B
Yeah. I want to say.
A
I never want to.
B
8.
A
Oh, they guessed Travis Kelce. For him, that's a good guess.
B
Imagine.
A
Imagine. I want to know how many people. Oh, they're still Pangolin Crane.
B
Crane, they're saying, is Normani.
A
Oh, my God.
B
It definitely is.
A
From the work. From home video. Music video. Yeah, like, when they were.
B
That's what people are saying.
A
There's just no way that she so.
B
Philip Phillips. Normani. Like, literally all my ops. Ashley Simpson, Evan Ross. I think these are all guesses. I don't know for sure.
A
And Pangolin was in the bottom, too.
B
I don't. I don't.
A
I don't know. Oh, here you are in, like, the roundup.
B
I'm. Did you see that? Spencer Pratt is, like, slowly inching up. Like the recent polls. He's only eight points behind Karen Bass of la. Is that insane? I saw the poll this morning. I'm like, there's literally no way.
A
I love it.
B
I know.
A
Now for Southern term recap. So we're just wrapping up the season Carolina Day party, of course, hosted by Miss Patricia and not her house. I wonder whose place that was. It was really nice. So everyone got all dressed up and came came to play. Charlie is done with Craig due to what happened on the bus with Sally. However, I don't. And you know, I love Charlie. Oh, my God. And she looks so gargy at the reunion. I don't, like, fully endorse the way she went about, like, ending things with him because she didn't. She just was like, I'm not speaking to him again. Didn't tell him why. He was, like, kind of confused. He's like, we used to talk every day and like now, but we don't. And it's been four days since Mexico. So he's like, I'll talk to her at the party. She keeps, like, running out of every room that he's in. And then when they finally have the conversation, he is, like, as remorseful as Craig can be. I guess I'm recognizing that that's, like, not his strong suit, but he's like, you know, sort of like Expressing remorse and also saying how much he liked her and, like, how bummed he is that she's, like, done with him. She was like, oh, I didn't know that about how much he liked her. And it's like, well, yeah, if you just spoke to him and said, like, I really didn't like what you did and like, you could have ended it, but like, a conversation might. Might have given you a new perspective, he could have been like, oh, my God, I'm not only apologize for that, but expressed to you how much that he did like you. Like, maybe it could have ended differently, like, because they are pretty cute together, but she sort of just like ended. And I understand, like, seeing that side of someone, like, oh, no, I will not have that in my life. And I probably feel the same, but I would at least tell them that. Not, like, have it be over and, like, ruin it before you have the chance to, like, maybe make amends. Plus, Craig has made amends with Sapphire Sally. He apologized to her in Mexico. She, like, accepted it really quickly, even though it was like, not the most amazing apology. But she was like, he just has this way of, like, endearing you. I agree. No, I agree. But, like, I felt like it should have been a bigger apology. She also had to be like, you know, I was upset. And he was like, oh, you were what I do. So then Craig shares with Sally that actually, like, the whole season, like, him and Charlie were really, like, kind of serious. Like, they talked every day. They were planning a trip together. He was going to meet her family. And Charlie never told any of this to Sally. And Sally's so shocked and hurt by it. But it's like, why on earth would Charlie tell you any of this? Because you've only said negative things about Craig. And here's the crux. The issue of the season is, like, Sally really liked Craig. She was spending all this time with him, and then when she finally, like, lets him know I like you, he was like, oh, I don't like you like that. And this middle school. No. And instead he likes Charlie, her best friend friend, and he asked out Charlie. And Charlie likes Craig too and wanted to go out with him. So, like, what should Charlie have done? They both like Craig, right? And Craig chose Charlie. Sally feels very hurt by Craig not liking her, but in the way that he handled things, I don't really think that he ever led her on. They keep citing.
B
You can't be mad at someone for not liking you about. No.
A
And, like, you just be upset. I feel like if he did have ever was in. I feel like from the moment they started hanging out, a lot. Like, he never saw it as anything like that. At one point, he said, like, she could sleep sleepover. But that's because, like, she texted like, I wish I could stay. And he was like, you could have stayed. Like, not like, you could have stayed.
B
Right.
A
And even the shop was like, Craig is, like, a middle schooler when it comes to girls, like, sleepover. He's not, like, you know, he's, like, the least. The last person to, like, be disrespectful to. Yeah. Or, like, lead someone on. So he maybe he knew that Sally had a crush on him, but he never was, like, even exploring that. He was obviously just, like, staying friends. But it's funny because, like, Sally got, like, chicken because he said, like, she should get chickens.
B
Oh, stop.
A
And then at the end of the season, she revealed them. No. And thankfully, her family has a farm, so, like, she gave them to her parents. But it's, like, really funny. It's like, classic girl. Like, yeah, right when your man says,
B
oh, you're like, I'm into basketball, and you're still wearing jerseys.
A
Like, so she's, like, really funny in that regard. But also. So not only do I think that Craig didn't lead her on, he obviously was, like, a little too nice. But that's just Craig. Literally five minutes later, the minute that Austin and his girlfriend broke up this season, she is all over Austin. Like, she's in love with Austin. And they had this final scene outside of Carolina Day party where he's, like, leaving, and they hooked up in Mexico, even though he just broke up with his girlfriend. And she's very aggressive with him. She's like, I like you. I think you're so cute. Like, let's go. Let's go. And he's like, you know what? That feels good for someone to, like, really gas you up like that. And then in the last scene, she's, like, standing on the porch of the house, and she looks so beautiful. Like, with the lights are, like. She looks like a goddess because the house lights are, like, lighting her up. And he's over there, and, like, you could see that he knows that she's so beautiful. And she's like, take me with you. You. And I think that they're, like, an item. Oh, yeah. I think it's working out. Like, I saw she said on a podcast that, like, they're not together, but, like, they love each other. They're, like, best friends who are, like, in love and hook up and so they're together, so she's got to close that.
B
Oh, wait, you didn't choose this story. You see that Tom Brady was spotted with Yael Cohen Scooter Bronze X. Oh,
A
I saw that he was spotted with Scooter Bronze X, but I didn't know it was the ex. Yeah, Yeah.
B
L. And I just want to say, like, taking out the Alex Earl thing, I kind of ship. Like, I think that's an amazing.
A
Very mature.
B
Very mature. Age appropriate. I think that they operate at the same level. Like, she, you know, is a wealthy, wealthy woman.
A
She's used to dating like a very,
B
you know, influential, high power individual. Like, sorry for Alex. I don't know what that. But I. I think that this is actually a very good pairing. And it's the first time he's ever dated someone who's not 11. She's in her 30s. I think she's insanely gorgeous.
A
Yeah, I think it's a perfect pair also pairing. I think. I think that's great. When I saw. I saw Tom Brady's with Scooter Bronze X and I thought it was just like some model, you know?
B
Yeah. No, no. Yeah.
A
Oh, I love that.
B
I love that too.
A
I love that.
B
I don't know what it means for
A
licks, but she'll be fine.
B
Yeah, she'll be fine.
A
Call Braxton.
B
Call Brooks. Call Brooks.
A
No, they're like Miranda and Casey.
B
They are
A
so next week reading Austin and Sally. Yeah. They seem to be, like, together. Craig has a lot to answer for. They're teasing it. Like, he storms out of the ring and he's going to quit the show even though he's done watch Robins live with his best friends. Like, I need the boys to stop fighting. Like, it's so lame.
B
It's so lame.
A
And I need for the girls, I need everyone to, like, start, like, moving forward, like, meeting with intention. Austin and Sally, I completely endorse. So it's also just like, Sally, how can you be so heartbroken that Charlie went on a date with Craig when, like, you in two seconds are. You wanted Austin.
B
Right? Right.
A
And if Sally. If Charlie liked him too. Their names are too similar.
B
And I remember you telling me the last on her first season that she was into Shep. Right.
A
She had hooked up with Shep, but I don't think she was, like, into him. And she had dated Taylor, the guy Taylor was dating at the time. Gaston.
B
I'm sorry, what? That was perfect. Harmony. That's Harmony.
A
I agree. I think we just leave it right there.
B
Thank you. Guys. So much for listening to the to morning show. We double the fast watching YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe. Give us video thumbs up podcast Podcast Interrupt and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow for Friday.
A
Love you. Bye.
B
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Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: March 12, 2026
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A lively Thursday catch-up as Jackie and Claudia Oshry, a.k.a. the Toast sisters, riff on their latest pop culture deep dives, Bravo-sphere drama, wellness/lifestyle updates, and trending entertainment news. The episode is rich with takes on personal motivation, evolving reality TV, and the "heroes need heroes" ethos for millennial/Gen Z women.
The episode is filled with characteristic banter, reality TV gossip, and honest reflections on pop culture, self-image, and professional motivation. The duo dish on everything from TV "blind spots" to Bravo favorites to Meghan Markle's controversial Australian event, with an undercurrent of both humor and heartfelt commentary on comparison, aspiration, and the need for real-life heroes and inspiration.
Recap and dissection of Southern Charm’s season finale.
Leah McSweeney’s ongoing lawsuit against Andy Cohen.
Main story: Meghan Markle is headlining a luxury women’s retreat in Australia, with VIP tickets priced up to $2,288+, causing backlash for perceived “cash-grab” and low-brow PR.
Analysis on the Sussexes’ attempts to monetize their royal status abroad and debates about their next financial/PR moves after “tapping out” the American market.
Spirited argument about whether they should return to the UK royal family or pivot to acting, music, or just lay low.
Alex Warren’s Grammys Performance Malfunction (34:34)
Music Discoveries & Trends
Casting Babies for TV
Carla Sofía Gascón Trolls Timothée Chalamet
Movie Musings
Conversational, irreverent, self-aware, and candid. The Toast keeps a fast-paced, sisterly rapport—rife with pop culture hot takes, supportive humor around the struggles of millennial womanhood, and keen observations on media trends. There’s an ongoing blend of light-hearted judgment, affectionate snark, and moments of real relatability.
This engaging episode provides both laughs and genuine insight for listeners who love reality TV, celebrity culture, and honest talk about the pressures and pleasures of modern womanhood.