How To Make Friends and Influence People with Kathleen Post: Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "How To Make Friends and Influence People with Kathleen Post"

Episode Information:

• Title: How To Make Friends and Influence People with Kathleen Post
• Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry (Dear Media)
• Release Date: June 3, 2025

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Introduction

The Toast, a vibrant weekday podcast hosted by Jackie and Claudia Oshry, kicks off its Florida edition's second week with a special guest, Kathleen Post. Known for her influence as a Miami swirly and blogger, Kathleen brings her decade-long experience in the influencer space to the conversation.

Guest Introduction: Kathleen Post [00:36]

Jackson Claude: "Kathleen, you are an influencer, a Miami swirly, and a toaster."
Kathleen Post: "I am. The trifecta."

Kathleen shares her initial skepticism upon receiving an invitation to join The Toast, fearing it might be a fraudulent scheme. Her quick response confirmed the authenticity, leading to her role as a co-host for the Florida month.

Personal Background and Move to Miami [01:38]

Kathleen hails from Indianapolis, Indiana, where she attended Indiana University as a marketing major with a minor in fashion. After spending a winter season in Miami, she and her husband considered making the move permanent, balancing life between Indiana, Los Angeles, and summer months in New York.

Kathleen Post: "I walked down to the beach every morning to start my day. Do I love Miami? Because I'm a suburbs girl from Indiana, Miami was a big transition."

Influencer Career Evolution [07:44]

With a decade of influencing under her belt, Kathleen reminisces about her early days of blogging before the term "influencer" became mainstream. She highlights the evolution from writing detailed blog posts about outfits to leveraging Instagram's features like Stories.

Kathleen Post: "I was Lemon Blonde. When I started Instagram, stories weren't even a thing. We used crazy filters like the dog filter during makeup tutorials."

Discussion on Filters and Social Media Authenticity [08:55]

The hosts delve into the past reliance on filters and the journey towards a more authentic online presence. They reflect humorously on their earlier content, questioning the future trends they might look back on with amusement.

Jackson Claude: "What were we thinking?!"

Conversations on Relationships and Marriages [05:10]

Kathleen opens up about her ten-year marriage, which began when she was 22. She discusses the challenges and growth that come with marrying young, emphasizing the importance of growing together as individuals and as a couple.

Kathleen Post: "We grew together, whereas I see a lot of couples who get married young and then drift apart."

Relationship Dynamics and Personal Growth [06:30]

The conversation shifts to observing relationships on shows like Secret Lives, where early marriages often lead to multiple divorces due to personal growth and changing values.

Kathleen Post: "Someday, if I have a daughter, I would not advise someone to get married that young. But it worked for us."

News Stories

Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni Case [21:37]

The hosts discuss Blake Lively's attempt to withdraw her claims against Justin Baldoni regarding intentional infliction of emotional distress. They analyze the implications of her withdrawal and speculate on its impact on her case.

Kathleen Post: "Nothing is looking good for her right now."

Kylie Jenner's Boob Job Revelation [27:41]

Kylie Jenner engages directly with her fans by sharing specific details about her breast augmentation, including size and material. This candidness is celebrated as a rare moment of transparency among celebrities.

Kathleen Post: "I love that she just responded to that. It's very rare."

Meghan Markle and Dolly Parton Snubbing [53:39]

Rumors surface about Dolly Parton declining an invitation to Meghan Markle's Netflix show, leading to discussions about celebrity reputations and alliances.

Jackson Claude: "I don’t think that makes sense for her. If Dolly liked Megan, she would publicly support her."

Sports Discussion: Indianapolis Pacers [32:04]

Kathleen expresses excitement about the Indianapolis Pacers' progress in the playoffs, contrasting it with recent Knicks' performance.

Kathleen Post: "Pacers now go on to the finals. Planning on going to a game, which will be fun."

Book and Show Recommendations [57:35]

The hosts recommend various books and shows, sharing personal insights and highlighting how The Toast helps listeners stay informed without diving deep into each media piece.

Jackson Claude: "If you've been looking for a secret lives recap, stay tuned for this week."

Dear Toasters: Advice Segment [60:16]

Dear Toasters is a weekly advice segment where listeners’ questions are addressed by the hosts and guest co-hosts.

Making Friends in High School [60:16]

A freshman struggles with making friends in high school. The hosts empathize, sharing their own experiences of switching schools and the importance of putting oneself out there through clubs and hobbies.

Kathleen Post: "We have so many ways to get involved in high school that are just low stakes."

Financial Concerns in Relationships [64:33]

A listener seeks advice on differing financial management styles with her boyfriend. The hosts discuss the importance of transparency and finding a balance between joint and separate accounts.

Jackson Claude: "Have a joint account for shared ventures and keep individual accounts for personal freedom."

Dealing with Exes and Family Dynamics [68:01]

A divorced listener is troubled by her mother's refusal to remove wedding photos displaying her ex. The hosts suggest proactive measures like swapping out photos or having new ones taken to create a healthier environment.

Kathleen Post: "You need to take matters into your own hands. Start by replacing the photo with something that brings you joy."

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with reflections on the discussions and a heartfelt thank you to Kathleen Post for her insights. The hosts encourage listeners to follow Kathleen on her social media platforms and tease upcoming episodes filled with more engaging content.

Jackson Claude: "Thank you so much, Kathleen Post. Check out her Instagram and TikTok for more adorable fashion content."

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Notable Quotes:

• Kathleen Post [00:43]: "I am." (Referring to being an influencer, Miami swirly, and toaster.)
• Jackson Claude [04:48]: "We love being right on the beach."
• Kathleen Post [05:10]: "We're fortunate we've grown together."
• Jackson Claude [08:55]: "What were we thinking?!"
• Kathleen Post [21:38]: "Nothing is looking good for her right now."
• Kathleen Post [28:10]: "I love that she just responded to that."
• Jackson Claude [67:59]: "Money causes the most fights in marriages."

Timestamps Reference:

• 00:36: Introduction of Kathleen Post
• 05:10: Discussion on marriage
• 08:55: Evolution of influencer content
• 21:37: Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni case
• 27:41: Kylie Jenner's candid revelation
• 53:39: Meghan Markle and Dolly Parton snubbing
• 60:16: First Dear Toasters question
• 64:33: Second Dear Toasters question
• 68:01: Third Dear Toasters question

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This detailed summary encapsulates the key discussions, personal anecdotes, and insightful advice shared during the episode, providing listeners who haven't tuned in a comprehensive overview of the engaging content delivered by The Toast and Kathleen Post.

Transcript

[Jackson Claude]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off. Swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast Jackson Friends, Florida edition, week two, day two. I am joined by a new friend today, Kathleen Post. Welcome to the toast.

[Kathleen Post]

Thank you.

[Jackson Claude]

It rhymes. It's meant to be. It's meant to be. Kathleen, you are an influencer, a Miami swirly, and a toaster.

[Kathleen Post]

I am.

[Jackson Claude]

My favorite things.

[Kathleen Post]

The trifecta.

[Jackson Claude]

The trifecta. When looking for a co host for.

[Kathleen Post]

Florida month, I'm so glad I checked all the boxes.

[Jackson Claude]

You really checked all the boxes? Vibes are party.

[Kathleen Post]

When you guys reached out, I genuinely was like, they meant to email someone else. This is a mistake. I actually was like, this is spam. And I was thinking that the toast was being caught up in some, like, fraudulent scheme. I was waiting for them to, like, ask for my credit card information. I was like, I need to reach out to the toast and let them know that their name and likeness is being used in some, like, influencer.

[Jackson Claude]

That's so funny. Imagine if you didn't respond because you were like, this is spam.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, I was reading down. I'm like, okay, where are they asking me for my credit card information, my Social Security? They're like, in order to lock in the spot to be on the toast, please provide us.

[Jackson Claude]

You have to pay $1,000. That's a big scheme.

[Kathleen Post]

And I was like, no, this is real. And I responded so fast. Not as fast as cast.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, yeah, that. Hence Tuesday. Yes, I guess. But we are so excited that you are here.

[Kathleen Post]

Thank you.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm so excited for the toasters out there who don't know you. Will you please introduce yourself? Where do you hail from?

[Kathleen Post]

Yes, I would love to. So I hail from Indianapolis originally. I'm from there. I've lived there most of my life. I went to Indiana University, so I know there's some IU swirlies listening.

[Jackson Claude]

Thank you for sharing that information because I find myself when we're doing Jackson Friends that, like, I want to know where everyone went to college.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, right.

[Jackson Claude]

And it's like, what was your reason?

[Kathleen Post]

We all want to know, so let's just put it out there.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know why it's germane to your story.

[Kathleen Post]

It adds context. Like, was I a big ten swirly? Was I, you know, small liberal art dropout? Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I went to. IU I was a marketing major. I was in the business school with a minor in fashion, and I've lived there most of my life. But this past winter, we moved down to Miami, and we were down here from January through May, and we loved it.

[Jackson Claude]

Hear that, Claudia?

[Kathleen Post]

I know. And after your episode yesterday, like, I was.

[Jackson Claude]

You're thinking about. You're thinking about moving here full time.

[Kathleen Post]

Considering.

[Jackson Claude]

Considering.

[Kathleen Post]

So did you. When you moved here, did you ever do, like, the snowbird life, or did you just, like, rip the band aid fully move here?

[Jackson Claude]

Rip the band aid fully moved here. That was always our plan. We found ourselves going back and forth a lot. And also, like, when I was pregnant with Charlie, we had to move back for six months. That wasn't part of the plan. And it was. It wasn't ideal, but we wind up spending a lot of time back there. And now we spend summers in New York. So it's not snowbird at all, but, like, we aren't here 12 months out.

[Kathleen Post]

Of the year, which I feel like that's most people. Like, when we were down here, everyone's like, oh, are you guys gonna move here? And we were just talking to people, and everyone's like, well, we split time or, you know, trips to the Cape. Like, everyone's going to the Cape. Well, everyone here is, like, from New York, so everyone's like, oh, no, no, we go home for the summer.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, everyone here is from somewhere else.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. And whenever we talk to people, they're like, well, why don't you just move to Miami? And I'm like, my problem is we love being right on the beach. And when we were down here for five months, we lived right on the beach. Pargi Condo. Like, just. We loved it. And I'm like, do I love Miami? Because every morning I was walking down to the beach to start my day. Is that real life or do I, like, actually love Miami? So that's because I'm a suburbs girl. Like, I'm from Indiana. Like, right. Miami's a lot when you're from Indiana. Like, everyone here who's from New York, I'm like, you guys get the vibes, but. But when you're from the suburbs of Indiana, like, it was a big transition.

[Jackson Claude]

Where did you move after college?

[Kathleen Post]

We lived in Indianapolis for a little bit. We moved to LA for a year, and for my husband's job, it was fun. Like, it was kind of one of those things where we were like, we know this is temporary. We're not going to live here forever. Louisiana. Is a lot, too. Yeah. Not as much. Like, I feel like Miami is a little more approachable, L.A. just it's the traffic that, you know, people can be interesting. I feel like Miami people were like really nice and welcoming. Not that they weren't in la, but it's just different. It kind of felt like a who do you know, like, how can I use a connection from you? So. And it was. We moved out there for my husband's job and then they asked us to move back. So we kind of knew it was like a temporary thing. Yeah, it was kind of one of those things where we were like, we're young, let's go move somewhere. And now we're in Indianapolis and we're like, do we stay here? I mean, do we split time? Do we do six months? Six months. Which a lot of people do that too. So. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Well, exploring.

[Jackson Claude]

How long have you been married?

[Kathleen Post]

10 years. I was a child bride.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, like Claudia.

[Kathleen Post]

Oh, yeah. How old was she?

[Jackson Claude]

Like 23, I think.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay. Yeah, I was 22.

[Jackson Claude]

22, yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Which is crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

That's so nice.

[Kathleen Post]

We just celebrated our 10 year anniversary and people are like, 10 years, how? Which I mean, I'm not saying, no, that's that young.

[Jackson Claude]

But like, I'm sorry, that's a surprising fact, right?

[Kathleen Post]

You're like, oh, you mean you've been together 10 years, married five. And I'm like, no, no, no. We've been together like 14 years, married 10. Which it's crazy because now I'm like, I look at 22 year olds and I'm like, I would never ever advise someone to get married that young. But it worked for us. And like, we just, we knew that we wanted to be together and it was kind of those things where it was like, why wait? Also like, it just, it felt normal at the time. Even though now I look back and I'm like, my brain was not fully developed.

[Jackson Claude]

Do a lot of people like in your community growing up get married young? Like, what were the circumstances?

[Kathleen Post]

I don't know if it's necessarily in like the Indianapolis community. I mean, I do think in general, maybe Midwest, more so than like a New Yorker, la. But I also grew up like super conservative Christian, religious background, where it was in that community. It was very normal.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

So like, I wasn't like, oh, I'm crazy for getting married. So. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like that's normal. Anyways, now I look back and I'm like, that was so young. But like, I don't know, I just feel like, we're lucky, because I see. Yeah. I see people who get married young, and it's like, you grow so much. Like, I feel like I am not the same person now at 32 than I was at 22. But thankfully, we grew together. Whereas I see a lot of couples who get married young. I mean, I'm watching Secret Lives right now, and it's just.

[Jackson Claude]

I was gonna ask you. Cause a lot of what you're saying does sound like secret wives. Like, they're on their third husband.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And they're 26.

[Kathleen Post]

And I'm like, I see how that happens.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Cause you get married so young, and then your values change, your goals change. And I look at these girls on that show, and I'm just like, oh, my gosh. And then you have to remember they're 24.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But then sometimes it does work out. Like, there are couples there that got married really young. And, like, it's going now.

[Kathleen Post]

Lots of couples. I mean, Claudia and Ben.

[Jackson Claude]

And Claudia and Ben. But Claudia will always say about this. She's like, ben and I, like, are the exception to this.

[Kathleen Post]

Oh, yeah. And that's how I feel. Like. I feel like someday, if I have a daughter, I would not advise her to get married that young. But I do feel like we are the exact. I mean, I don't know. I do know a lot of people where it's worked out and. But.

[Jackson Claude]

But a lot has to go, right.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. There. It's. It can be. Yeah. I see why it doesn't work out for most people. So anyways, got married really young, moved to la, moved back to Indianapolis, and we've just been trying to figure out life. And so last year, we came to Miami for one month, for the month of January, and we loved it. So then we were like, okay, should we maybe do, like, six months? We ended up doing almost five. And then we went back to Indy. Now I'm here today, and then flying out to New York after this.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, fun.

[Kathleen Post]

So just here to. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

How long have you been influencing?

[Kathleen Post]

For 10 years. So I graduated and then started right after college. And when I started, influencing wasn't even a word then. You know what I mean?

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I was a blogger. Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Even content creator wasn't really a thing. It was like I was blogging. Like, I would be like, go onto my blog posts and, like, have out, you know, like 30 photos of me in an outfit. One outfit. And be like, hi, guys. So today I'm wearing a denim jacket and flared jeans, and it reminds me of this time When I was in the third grade and I learned this really important life lesson, like, you'd literally be writing a thousand lines. It's called Lemon Blonde. Because that was for the Gen Z ers. Yeah, I know, right? So that back in the day, like, your blog names were, like, two kind of, like, kitschy words. It could be, like, pigtails and peonies or something.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, that's like Rachel and peonies.

[Kathleen Post]

Exactly.

[Jackson Claude]

Cupcakes and cashmere.

[Kathleen Post]

Dress up. Buttercup.

[Jackson Claude]

Champagne Chanel.

[Kathleen Post]

Champagne Chanel. Classic stuff.

[Jackson Claude]

Classic stuff.

[Kathleen Post]

So I came on the scene, and there was, you know, something navy. Yeah, that's just how it was. So I was Lemon Blonde.

[Jackson Claude]

Love it.

[Kathleen Post]

But thankfully, my Instagram handle was always my name, so I never had to, like, retrain. Because now, like, I'll see people. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's pink Peony. Or that's something navy.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Kathleen Post]

And it's like, no, that's not her name. So thankfully, my name was always Kathleen Post. I never had to retrain the audience. But, yeah, so we would, like, literally write blog posts about what we were wearing, which is so ancient now. But I'm glad I started when I did. It was a long time ago. Things have changed a lot. But, like, when I started Instagram, stories weren't even a thing. Like, you would post a photo on your Instagram to tell people to go.

[Jackson Claude]

To your blog, read your blog, and they couldn't, like, click through stories.

[Kathleen Post]

No, there weren't stories. Then stories came along, and that changed the game. Yeah, but that was also a time because that's when you would wear these, like, crazy filters, like, the dog filter. And you'd be like, doing a makeup tutorial, and you'd be like, okay, so my lips combo today. And then it'd be like. Cause the tongue would, like, come out of the dog filter. You'd be, like, telling, like, a real. You'd be like, hey, guys, so I just want to give you guys a little life update. And he'd be like, meow. Like, XO's and ears would pop out of your head. And I'm like, how did anyone take it seriously? We'd be doing a makeup tutorial with a dog filter on. And that was just the norm. We didn't question it. It was.

[Jackson Claude]

I used to always do, like, my lip videos with, like, a L. A snout covering. Exactly.

[Kathleen Post]

And you're like, isn't this lip combo.

[Jackson Claude]

Pargie Click to buy the thing you can't see.

[Kathleen Post]

So funny. But, yeah, I look back at that, and I'm like, what were we thinking? But it was just normal, so.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And it makes you wonder, like, what we do now that we're gonna look back on and be like, dances, Dances.

[Kathleen Post]

Even, like, the lip syncing thing. I feel like someday we're gonna look back and be like, we would memorize a script to lip sync.

[Jackson Claude]

That's it. I feel like I'm Mark safe from this. But, like, the.

[Kathleen Post]

I'll watch reels. You're not marked safe on reels.

[Jackson Claude]

No, but, like, I'll watch videos of people doing, like, the script of acting, you know, a voiceover, whatever. And it's like, good content, right? That's how people create content. But, like, if you really take a step back and think about, like, how long did it take you to memorize that? That's what you spent, like, one whole hour doing.

[Kathleen Post]

It really takes you out of it. It breaks the fourth wall when you're like, oh, they set up their tripod. Memorized a script.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

And then hit record, Edited it, pieced it together. But it's fun to watch. You just can't think about it.

[Jackson Claude]

The dog filter was fun to watch too, though.

[Kathleen Post]

It was. I mean, we were. We just didn't want to show our real face. It was scary. You felt so exposed to the world. So it was like, maybe if I put on ears, a snout, and have a tongue sticking out of my mouth, I can present myself to the world safely today.

[Jackson Claude]

It's true. And I do feel like, for the most part, we've graduated from filters. Even on Instagram for a while, there were, like, those AI beauty filters that were, like, they didn't even look real, but they were just nice to look at. But I feel like I've been clean from using zinc filters from, like, for two years now.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. It was kind of this progression. It took a while to become sober, but I started with removing the animals from my face. And then I was like, maybe if I just use these, like, subtle beauty filters, like, it's gonna make my lips a little bit bigger, my nose a little bit more snatched, and, like, it's also gonna make me look, like, really, like, creamy. Like, very, like, beige. A little sparkle. But, like, I'm not an animal, at least.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Then it was like, okay, super, super subtle. And now.

[Jackson Claude]

And now we're free. Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

It's got to show your face.

[Jackson Claude]

And it's funny because if I watch old videos from, like, 2019 where I'm using those, like, Instagram beauty filters, it's like, that doesn't look Like a human being.

[Kathleen Post]

No, it's so scary.

[Jackson Claude]

And I was so beautiful then. Like, girl, take the filter off.

[Kathleen Post]

My skin was so good.

[Jackson Claude]

Put it on now. In 2025. Now I need. Now I'm so brave then. Like, what am I?

[Kathleen Post]

No, we were. We were really warped. And it's still a thing on TikTok, though. Like, I see on TikTok, a lot of people will post a video and I'm like, wow, that girl is so gorgeous. Who's her plastic surgeon. She looks amazing. And then it's like, flawless skin 5000.

[Jackson Claude]

But they tell you when people use.

[Kathleen Post]

A filter, so at least it's showing you. Which Instagram did too.

[Jackson Claude]

But, yes, it did. But you're saying they look like real people. Like, if they didn't tell you used a filter, it's just better technology.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, it's just kind of like you would glance at it and be like, wow, this girl is stunning. How have I never seen her before? Then you put the filter on your face and you're like, I am stunning.

[Jackson Claude]

How have I never seen her before?

[Kathleen Post]

Oh, that's why it's the filter.

[Jackson Claude]

Interesting.

[Kathleen Post]

So, yeah, now we just gotta. This is just exposure therapy. I'm on the toast, you know, filter free.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, we're filter free here. But it's a pargy environment. It really is.

[Kathleen Post]

It's so fun being behind the scenes and seeing how people think.

[Jackson Claude]

What do you think?

[Kathleen Post]

I love it. I mean, I've never been on a podcast before, so I'm sorry, I'm a little nervous right now.

[Jackson Claude]

No, that's so. Okay.

[Kathleen Post]

I've never done this, but this is so exciting.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm humbled and proud that we are your first one.

[Kathleen Post]

But, like, yes, you guys are taking my podcast virginity.

[Jackson Claude]

What did you expect when you came here? And what is what?

[Kathleen Post]

Like, I kind of thought we'd be in, like, a small, little room. I also didn't expect this to be so beautiful. And I also like that we can kind of see ourselves. Like, I can look.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, yeah. Yesterday.

[Kathleen Post]

I can judge.

[Jackson Claude]

Just in case, we're supposed to turn off the monitor because otherwise we'll just stare at ourselves the whole time. Like, hey, yeah, so we should turn off the monitor.

[Kathleen Post]

No, I like it.

[Jackson Claude]

You like it.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay, but, like, just in case, I'm.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, eyes up here. That one's your cat.

[Kathleen Post]

I'm trying to just look at you, but every once in a while, you might see my eyes going over. Just gotta check things out a little bit. No, this is so cool. You guys are obviously so successful and it's so fun and just be behind the scenes. I'm a toaster. I'm a Patreoni. I'm all the things queen. I bought camper and the counselor for my sister in law who's having a baby.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh my gosh. Thank you. She will love it.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, she's a huge toaster too. So I like didn't tell anyone I was coming on.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, wait, are they gonna be like.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, I told a couple people because in my excitement when I got the email that I thought was potentially fraudulent, I. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm freaked out. And I kept waiting for you guys to email me and be like, oh, I'm so sorry. We were actually looking for a different Kathleen and I was like, thankfully Kathleen's not like a super common influencer name. But I was like, maybe someone tipped Jackie off. Like, oh, hey, Kathleen. And you meant to email a different Kathleen. And so I was like, I kept waiting for like the cancellation email, like, hey, sorry, we double booked you or like, you know, Jackie's sick or something like that. And I was like, no, this is really happening. So I didn't tell anyone. So this will be a surprise.

[Jackson Claude]

I understand. I'd be the same way. Like, I don't tell anyone any. It's over and it will be funny if you like, don't tell your friends who are toasters and then they'll just like open up their phone, see that it's you. Surprise. I love that jump scare. Kathleen's on the toast. We have such an important episode today. I'm so excited because we have the fast five stories and we are here to work and break down the stories. And then we also have Dear Toasters, you are here on a Tuesday and you too.

[Kathleen Post]

I'm here for you.

[Jackson Claude]

She will be making sure that we get to the Dear Toasters.

[Kathleen Post]

I didn't even think about the fact that it was a day.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

And that's Dear Toasters day.

[Jackson Claude]

We have some really cute submissions and the girlies need our help.

[Kathleen Post]

I'm here to help.

[Jackson Claude]

We're here to help.

[Kathleen Post]

You know, that's what I love about being influencer. Just here to help the girlies.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, that's also like co hosting the toast. Like, this is an act of service. It's like we're giving back to the community and we appreciate your service.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, we're just here to help.

[Jackson Claude]

We're here to help.

[Kathleen Post]

I'm so excited.

[Jackson Claude]

So now without further ado, da da do it is time for the Fast. Five stories that you da do I.

[Kathleen Post]

Have a quick question.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

When you do the doo doo doo doo doo to people who aren't familiar with the toast, are they like, what the heck? So last week on Jackson Friends, I was like, I wonder if that, like, takes it out of like, what is she doing?

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like anyone who comes on the toast, even if they don't listen all the time, like, they know that we are a little funky.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And we've got things and we've got inside jokes. So, like, when we, when I do something like that, it's like, oh, okay. That's just like toasting. Okay, got it. You know, they don't question it. I would hope. I don't think they think we're so, like, straight laced here.

[Kathleen Post]

Right? Yeah. We're having fun. We're quirky.

[Jackson Claude]

Even though we are getting down to business.

[Kathleen Post]

Yes, we're here to work.

[Jackson Claude]

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That's o L I V E A V E J-E-W-E-L-R-Y-Com Code Toast for 10 off your first order at Olive App Jewelry. Get yourself some. Get yourself something special. Treat yourself to something beautiful. Our first story, a little update in the Blake Lively Justin Baldoni case, which does seem like big news. So we shall discuss. Blake Lively is attempting to withdraw her claims against Justin Baldoni of intentional infliction and emotional distress as a negligent infliction of emotional distress. The move comes after his team sought discovery that included her medical records in their efforts to defend the director against her claim that she suffered severe emotional distress and pain, humiliation, embarrassment, belittlement, frustration and mental anguish. Her attempt to withdraw the claim surfaced in a filing Monday by his attorneys, who are seeking to compel the actress to sign a hippo release for access to therapy notes and other relevant information. Well, damn.

[Kathleen Post]

Wow.

[Jackson Claude]

I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense. If that's what she's saying happened to her. Like they have to then prove that that's what happened to her. But I don't I would not want to sign something like that. Like to then your were your therapy sessions, regardless of what happened in the case are then in the docket. Like, yeah, that's my personal issue. So I understand why she's withdrawing. I think this is like a hard thing to prove and it just like opens up a can of worms. But it doesn't look good that she's withdrawing something because, you know, this whole time people are like, that didn't happen. And now she's like, right.

[Kathleen Post]

But that is a good backup plan.

[Jackson Claude]

I mean, for him.

[Kathleen Post]

Well, so for her to withdraw.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, yeah, but it doesn't like help her case.

[Kathleen Post]

Right. But I'm just saying, like, that's an easy thing to say. Like, sorry, gotta withdraw.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

But I mean, I recently saw a psychiatrist, and the whole time I was thinking, what if this gets leaked?

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Kathleen Post]

You know what I mean?

[Jackson Claude]

Right. Like, I never even thought. Or that there's a way that it could.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. You know, just think, like.

[Jackson Claude]

But if you want to prove that you've had emotion on the stress, you need to prove it. It makes total sense. It's unfortunate.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. Wait, I'm sorry. I kind of zoned out for the first second of you reading because I just was like, oh, my gosh. I'm on the toast. Can you just reread the first couple sentences?

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. So basically, she was in her suit. She's claiming that he caused emotional distress and negligent infliction of emotional distress.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

She is now rescinding that and withdrawing that claim because he said, okay, well, then show me your therapy records. Like, where's the emotional distress?

[Kathleen Post]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So it doesn't look good for her.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. Nothing is looking good for her right now.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, that's the truth.

[Kathleen Post]

I think one of my biggest concerns in all this was where Taylor would fall in line with everything. And I'm feeling like right now she's kind of marked safe by. I was just thinking, how is this going to affect my view of Taylor? And I feel like her separation from Blake is marking her safe in the situation, which I'm happy about. But right now, where I stand is that they're both crazy and have hu. Justin and Blake, crazy and Ryan have huge egos, and their egos are bruised. And I kind of went back and forth like, team Justin, team Blake flip flopped a little bit, and now I'm just like, you're both crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So would you judge Taylor if she was, like, still stepping out with Blake at this point?

[Kathleen Post]

Of course. Would you?

[Jackson Claude]

No. I kind of judge her more for, like, not standing by the person that would be her best friend and who she said is her best friend. So then when I was talking with KFC last week, I. I kind of, like, ended up in this place of, like, maybe their friendship just wasn't as close as I ever thought it was. But I don't know. I. I appreciate loyalty.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, that's true. But if someone's throwing you under the bus and, like, calling you a dragon, like, dragging you into this and, you know, threatening to release texts, like, to me, I'm like, well, yeah, if all.

[Jackson Claude]

That'S true, well, then we find out that, like, she seems to have crossed Her. So, like, Taylor's like, oh, you can go fuck yourself. Yeah, but I'm pretty ride or die. Yeah. So it's not. I wouldn't.

[Kathleen Post]

You're a better person than I am.

[Jackson Claude]

I wouldn't judge her for standing by Blake, even if her friend is, like, so wrong.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I. It's so tricky because we will just never know the truth. And I think that's the hard thing is, like, we can speculate all we want, but, like, we're never gonna know how good of friends they actually were and what went on behind godmother.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I just feel like that's not something throw around lightly, but what you have to say.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. Like, what if it was like, she asked her to be the godmother and she's like, I don't want to be the godmother. How do you say no to something like that?

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Kathleen Post]

Can you say no if someone's like, will you be the godmother of my kids?

[Jackson Claude]

I think so, because I don't know a lot about, like, godmothering. Are you anyone's godmother?

[Kathleen Post]

No, I have a. Someone's. Our dog mother. But.

[Jackson Claude]

But doesn't it mean that, like, if anything happens to your kids, that you would take over? Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

And I think, like, there is probably something else legally written, and some people maybe just use the name is like, you're the godmother.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, it's just a cute thing, right?

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Like an auntie.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, exactly. But I don't know how seriously she took the phrase.

[Jackson Claude]

Wait, so, like, if she's. I'm sorry, this is even crazier. She's the kid's godmother, and, like, she's gonna be, like, providing for them if anything were happening to Blake and Ryan, and, like, now they're not friends anymore. That's weird. What do you do then? Has anyone had a split with their God kids Godmother?

[Kathleen Post]

I'm surprised no one's written in on Dear Toasters.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm sure that they have, but I honestly, we might not choose it because I wouldn't know how to advise you because I know nothing.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I do think that a lot of people probably say, like, will you be the godmother? But it's not in writing. That would be my guess.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It's just a nice title.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, it's cute. It's like, will you be the godmother?

[Jackson Claude]

It is.

[Kathleen Post]

It's not written in the will, but, yeah, I'm. Right now, it's just. It's not looking good, but I love all the stories about it, and I love when something new comes up because it's just. It keeps it fresh.

[Jackson Claude]

It does keep it fresh. I can't say that I love all the stories about it, but.

[Kathleen Post]

Well, you have to talk about it all the time, right?

[Jackson Claude]

I do look forward to the trial, though, and, like, getting answers and then being dark. Even though I think ultimately just, like, the two of them just didn't like each other or maybe did, like. Like, maybe they liked each other.

[Kathleen Post]

I don't buy that.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. I'm not, I think, writing it off.

[Kathleen Post]

I believe Blake's ego is a little bruised and whether she maybe had a little crush or something like that. But I don't think they, like, had a fling.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I don't think anything came of it. But, like, maybe there was crushing.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, just a little crush and a little ego bruising and. And.

[Jackson Claude]

And now they're both, like, butt hurt. And they've made it, like, too big of a deal to kind of back down now. But they should never, like, have gotten to this place. Except he needs to take back his name and his company in his movie. So I understand why he's, like, putting everything he has behind this.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. So does Ryan still follow you guys?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I don't know, because I don't think he listens that closely. Oh, yeah. Ryan Reynolds had followed the toast over the summer when we were defending Blake from our own volition, we just. Yeah, we didn't like what was happening. Let's go see.

[Kathleen Post]

And that was a big deal when.

[Jackson Claude]

He started following the toast. For now. Follows for now. But that's not going to change what I say. Sorry. Of course you're bought.

[Kathleen Post]

No, you're authentic.

[Jackson Claude]

For less than a billion, you're authentic, raw and real.

[Kathleen Post]

A true influencer.

[Jackson Claude]

Thank you so much. Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of authentic, raw, and real, Kylie Jenner is sharing the exact details of her boob job with a fan. So a creator on TikTok made a video saying that she loves Kylie's boobs. And, like, Kylie, I know you probably won't see this, and if you do see this, you're not going to answer, but, like, I need to know what you asked your doctor when you went in for your boob job. Hold on, I'm going to clear my throat because I know you don't like when I talk through my frog as if it's my.

[Kathleen Post]

Great.

[Jackson Claude]

So the Tick Tock user uploaded a video of herself on Monday, urging Kylie to share what she asked for. When getting her boobs done, hailing her boob job is the most perfect natural boob ever. She said, Kylie's boobs are perfection. She said, help a girl out at Kylie Jenner. I just want to know how to get them to sit like that. So Kylie commented on the video with the exact specifications of her boobs. She.

[Kathleen Post]

Which is crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

445Cc moderate profile, half under the muscle, exclamation points. Silicone exclamation points. Garth Fisher. Exclamation points. Hope this helps. Lol. She gave the doctor, she gave the CC size, she gave the material half under the muscle.

[Kathleen Post]

Mean. How do you go half?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know. But, like, thinking about it, like, gives me the words.

[Kathleen Post]

No, I know. I'm, like, thinking of cutting and going half. It's.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel over or under. I don't want to think about it.

[Kathleen Post]

But I love that she just responded to that. I mean, first of all, just shows that she's on TikTok. She's seeing what the girlies are saying. Yeah. She. When you guys post about her, she's seeing it, which I love. I love when celebrities, they're just like us. Like, they're scrolling the FYP as well. I love that she shared what she did and I feel like that's very rare.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

But also, like, not like anyone could ever afford her doctor.

[Jackson Claude]

No. But you could definitely bring these specs to your doctor.

[Kathleen Post]

Kylie dupe.

[Jackson Claude]

The fact that she had a boob job was not news to Kylie fans because she had talked about it on the Kardashians, I think, last season. She talked about her regrets and how she. She had her boobs done when she was really young and, like, she actually misses her old boobs. And, like, now that once she had a daughter, she started to, like, see herself differently and, like, so she regretted getting them done. So it wasn't like, we didn't know she had a boob job and she's telling us that. But to be so detailed is really appreciated, honestly.

[Kathleen Post]

It's rare these days. I mean, was it Lindsay Lohan? She recently was like, oh, it's. It's Chia seeds.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. Lindsay Lohan is taking, like, the.

[Kathleen Post]

The Chia seed route.

[Jackson Claude]

The Chia seed way out of, like, I'm drinking a lot of water. I mean, that's. You're right as well. But also, like, Chris just also got the Lindsay Lohan special and her rep, like, confirmed who the doctor was. And, like, that's just information we need to know as women. That's Women supporting women.

[Kathleen Post]

It is like, why are we gatekeeping these things? I think, like, especially with Lindsay Lohan, I think there. I could have read this wrong, but I think there was, like, an article where she was like, yeah, everyone's, like, hating and speculating, and it's like, no one's hating. We are obsessed with your new face. You look amazing. Like, we. We all want what you have. We want to know who you're.

[Jackson Claude]

Doc.

[Kathleen Post]

Where no one's hating. Like, I understand not wanting to, like, feel like you have to share with everyone everything you've done, but, like, I don't like when it's taking, like, the hating route of, like, oh, they're. They're hating on me. They think I'm facing. We love your work. You look amazing.

[Jackson Claude]

I think some people just, like, want us to believe that, like, it's natural and they achieve this on their own, as if that's, like, you know, more impressive. Which I guess it would be really impressive if she achieved it through, like, Chia seeds and fluids, but it's such a stark difference. It is.

[Kathleen Post]

And she looks amazing, but it's not Chia Seeds. I think she maybe was out of the loop for a little bit when.

[Jackson Claude]

She, you know, she missed the chapter on, like, authenticity.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, she missed where we're not, like, claiming it's olive oil or we're, you know, claiming it's like, was it Jennifer Aniston was like, you know, certain water or something like that? It's like, no one. You know, you're stuck in 2015. No one thinks it's. That's just Chia Seeds anymore. Like, you can claim what you had done. And she looks amazing. Like, there was. She was, like, a trending on TikTok where everyone would, like, post, like, a pargy picture of the ocean. They'd be like this. And what Lindsay Lohan had done. Like, everyone's praising your work, but, yeah, I appreciate. I appreciate Kylie coming forward.

[Jackson Claude]

We love that. And even I. I'm sure Kylie's also had, like, other stuff that, like, we don't know about and that she wouldn't share. So just giving us, like, a little something, like, some crumbs, and anyone could go get a new job. Like, thank you, Kylie.

[Kathleen Post]

She was just in Indianapolis, which is where I hail from.

[Jackson Claude]

And your team won.

[Kathleen Post]

Our team won. The Indianapolis Pacers.

[Jackson Claude]

They won the. The semi, whatever.

[Kathleen Post]

I think it was, like, the Pennsylvania Pacers.

[Jackson Claude]

The Pennsylvania Pacers. My favorite team. No, but I guess everyone got really quiet after the most recent Knicks game, so that means the Knicks didn't win.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, the Knicks lost to the first.

[Jackson Claude]

And now they're out of the.

[Kathleen Post]

They're out of the tournament.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Kathleen Post]

And now I don't know if it's.

[Jackson Claude]

And the Pacers. Go on.

[Kathleen Post]

Pacers now go on to the final.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, it was the semifinals.

[Kathleen Post]

Yes. So now they'll go into the finals. And we're planning on going to a game which will be fun.

[Jackson Claude]

But who are they playing?

[Kathleen Post]

Thunder.

[Jackson Claude]

Thunder.

[Kathleen Post]

Lightning.

[Jackson Claude]

Feel the thunder.

[Kathleen Post]

Oklahoma. Kansas. I feel like it was Kansas. Cause I remember being like, oh, the Chiefs. And also, like, football and basketball. Go, Kansas.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, does anyone know who's the other team in the finals? Oh, Oklahoma City. That's Kansas. Okc.

[Kathleen Post]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Yep. Okc.

[Kathleen Post]

Like, Oklahoma. Oklahoma.

[Jackson Claude]

Oklahoma State. Oklahoma City. Oklahoma. In Oklahoma. Oh, but what's the name of K.

[Kathleen Post]

Oh, I think I heard KC And I thought it was Kansas City. Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

Thunder.

[Kathleen Post]

Thunder.

[Jackson Claude]

Oklahoma.

[Kathleen Post]

I got Thunder. Right.

[Jackson Claude]

City Thunder from the great state of Oklahoma.

[Kathleen Post]

And I thought Kansas City. And I was like, okay. Anyways, so they're playing next, and I think we're gonna go. But I was really sad because Kylie and Timmy were in Indianapolis.

[Jackson Claude]

Are you gonna get. I just wanna know, are you gonna pay for tickets or. As an Indianapolis influencer, you shall receive tickets.

[Kathleen Post]

No, I will pay for tickets. Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

I.

[Kathleen Post]

You know, I don't have that.

[Jackson Claude]

You don't have that pull. What's the scene like? I feel like you would.

[Kathleen Post]

Well, actually, I've never tried.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Put it out there. But it's never worked for us doing that on this show. Claudia had to pay for her own Nick's tickets. But maybe in Indianapolis, there's just more. It's a smaller pool, big fish, small pond.

[Kathleen Post]

Like, okay, I will go. I will be decked out in Pacers gear. I will be the Pacers spokeswoman.

[Jackson Claude]

Literally. Love if someone gets free championship tickets from this show, and it's not Claudia Rye.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. And it's someone from Indiana.

[Jackson Claude]

Speaking of. The Panthers are in the Stanley Cup.

[Kathleen Post]

Congratulations to the team.

[Jackson Claude]

I mean, to you, too. You're like a Florida girl half the time.

[Kathleen Post]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Congratulations to us.

[Kathleen Post]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

They're in the Stanley Cup.

[Kathleen Post]

I'm not, like, acclimated to the Florida teams, so when you said Panthers, that meant nothing to me. If I'm being completely honest, what I.

[Jackson Claude]

Was saying to Cass yesterday, it's a shame, like, a lot of people move to Florida from elsewhere and, like, they bring their team loyalties with them, and it doesn't translate into, like, Florida pride. However, the Panthers rock. So who doesn't want to cheer for a winning team.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. That's how I am with the Pacers, if I'm being honest.

[Jackson Claude]

They're a winning team.

[Kathleen Post]

Right. I'm just. I'm here to jump on that bandwagon. I see a bandwagon going by. I'm just. I'm here to jump on. I'm here to support. I will say I was very sad, though, that I wasn't at the game that Kylie was at, because I'm sure that had to have been her first time in Indiana.

[Jackson Claude]

You think so?

[Kathleen Post]

Have you ever been to Indiana?

[Jackson Claude]

I've never been to Indiana.

[Kathleen Post]

Have you been to the Midwest? Like, you've been to Chicago?

[Jackson Claude]

I've been to Oklahoma. I've not been to Chicago. What? I have not been to Chicago.

[Kathleen Post]

I would think you guys would have done, like, a toast show there or something.

[Jackson Claude]

No, life has not taken me to Chicago.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay, well, that. I mean, that was your. If you were gonna go to the Midwest, I would think Chicago would have been your best bet.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I'm trying to think where else that.

[Kathleen Post]

Had to have been. Kylie's first time in Indiana.

[Jackson Claude]

You think so? I think she ever did, like a. A Kylie Lip Kit tour of Ultas.

[Kathleen Post]

Maybe. We do have Ultas there.

[Jackson Claude]

Right? I feel like the Kardashians are actually well traveled in the continental U.S. yeah. And abroad. But I feel like they. I mean, they're America's royal family. Like, I do feel like they make.

[Kathleen Post]

It through because I was wondering, like, what did she think? And I was like, I wonder where she ate and where she stayed. And then I remembered she's not like us. She got right off the plane.

[Jackson Claude]

She got off the plane, went to.

[Kathleen Post]

The game and got back on the plane because I was like, oh, I wonder where she's staying, where she's eating. What's she up to?

[Jackson Claude]

I'm sad that Kylie's run with the NBA Finals is over.

[Kathleen Post]

It was fun.

[Jackson Claude]

It was so much fun.

[Kathleen Post]

Did you see the thing about her Nyx lingerie?

[Jackson Claude]

I did. She posted a picture of her suitcase and there was some, like. It looked to be lingerie. It probably wasn't.

[Kathleen Post]

No, it probably wasn't.

[Jackson Claude]

But everyone's like, we can imagine. But she also was, like, playing into this thing with Timmy and the Knicks, and she reposted that TikTok of Samantha from Sex and the City saying, I only get laid if the Knicks win. So she's like, I loved.

[Kathleen Post]

I know. I'm sad it's over because it was.

[Jackson Claude]

Just a window into their relationship and I don't know when the next one will be. Maybe the U.S. open. She likes tennis.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, but this was, like, front row, like, all about them. It was a fun era. I'm sad it's over, but I'm happy for our Pacers.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm not happy for you guys, but I'm happy for you.

[Kathleen Post]

Thank you.

[Jackson Claude]

And I do look forward to hearing if this yields any free tickets to you.

[Kathleen Post]

Maybe they'll bring me out on the court. I mean, especially now that I've been on the toes. That really elevates me to a next.

[Jackson Claude]

Level, you would think, but, like, trust me, we've been trying, but I hope it works out for you.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. Any Indiana girls who are listening, I'm happy to support.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, our next story, someone who was not supportive. Meghan Markle was snubbed by an A list singer who turned down an invite to appear on her Netflix show. So rumors are a swirl in after celebrity commentator Kinsey Schofield said on a recent podcast episode of the Nerve with Maureen Callahan that Dolly Parton reportedly snubbed Meghan after she turned down an invite to appear on the actress's Netflix series With Love, Megan. Kinsey said her team was livid. Megan's team, because, no, they don't want to risk Dolly's reputation, Q score, and her popularity by associating with Meghan Markle. They knew that this ask was just to give Megan credibility in this lifestyle space, a space that Dolly does have a lot of credibility in. And Dolly declined.

[Kathleen Post]

So this is all, like, sad day for Megan.

[Jackson Claude]

Sad. But I also have to take the story, like, with a grain of salt. Right.

[Kathleen Post]

Because how many things have you said no to? Who doesn't mean you've, like, snubbed them.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. Who is Kinsey in this world? Like, I don't know what, like, information she has. That is true. But I can imagine a world where Megan went out to Dolly Parton, like, to come on her show because that's just a good idea, and Dolly saying no. However, I don't think it's because Dolly's as spineless as this makes it seem. Like, I just don't think that makes complete sense for her. But I think if Dolly liked Megan, she would be like, I don't care what's popular or not. Like, I support you. I will publicly support you. I just think she didn't want to.

[Kathleen Post]

Did they say that Dolly didn't want to risk her reputation going on Meghan's? And they. Yeah, that's.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't think that I Don't think that's how Dolly operates. Like, I think Dolly's good name is intact. I think she could do what she wants and support causes that she or people that she believes in.

[Kathleen Post]

I think she's been around for so long, her reputation can't really be tarnished at this point. No, for sure, she's pretty solid. If she wants to go on a podcast, she can go on a podcast. But I do think Megan's probably having a tough time getting people on. Have you heard of anyone good recently?

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know what's up coming for season two, but on the first season she had Mindy Kaling. But I also think the show shouldn't have that many celebrity guests, so I didn't expect there to be more. But she does have, like a lot of friends in her community and now she's friends with Gwyneth. That would be nice if she went on, but I would love that. I think that they. It's an easy way to get publicity and, like, love for your show by having beloved celebrity guests. However, like, I just don't think it's a plan for longevity. Like, if you're gonna have a fire cooking show, like, it needs to be fire with whomever is on.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, but not everyone can be Jackson Claude. You guys have that star power.

[Jackson Claude]

We do have that. No, we just have like the, I don't know, the consistency of like, not needing a guest. But a lot of people, like, need guests. Their whole show revolves around. Guess it's not like something to be ashamed of, but I think for what she's doing, it's not a guest based show. I don't want so and so teaching. She had a chef come on and like, teach her how to cook. I don't want to watch that. I just want you to cook and talk to me, not your friend who I don't know.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, I.

[Jackson Claude]

Did you watch the show?

[Kathleen Post]

No, I didn't. But the nice thing about listening to the toast is you feel like you've watched a lot of shows without actually needing to put in the time. So I get the summary, I get the clips, and you know, you scroll through TikTok, you get the synopsis. And a lot of times I feel like I've watched the whole show before I ever even watch it. So, like, between you guys breaking down the trailer and all of that, I'm like, all right, I've got the gist. I'm good to go. I'm catching up on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives right now.

[Jackson Claude]

So. Good.

[Kathleen Post]

But I'M like, I feel like I've already seen it. I got, you know, I've got the gist.

[Jackson Claude]

I feel like we haven't even recapped it that in depth. But stay tuned for later this week because we have a big secret Lives.

[Kathleen Post]

I was wondering if you guys recap.

[Jackson Claude]

I just want to say. That's all I'll say. If you've been looking for a secret lives recap, stay tuned for this week is all I'll say. I will say, though, watch this space.

[Kathleen Post]

Sometimes I feel like, okay, I've already seen the. I've got the point. I've already, you know, seen the show enough just from listening the toast. But then I actually watch and I'm.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, no, this is crazy. But also, like, sometimes we tell you have to watch something and I hope that you're doing your homework.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And it's like, like watching Sleepover. Have you rewatched it recently?

[Kathleen Post]

I have not rewatched, but Yancey is my icon. I do need to rewatch that. How does one rewatch Sleepover?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, it's definitely on Amazon Prime.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

Or just like Amazon and you have to buy it, but it's like, great. It stands the test of time.

[Kathleen Post]

I'll watch it on my flight after this.

[Jackson Claude]

So, like, we let you know when you need to watch something. You know what show I'm watching? I'm curious if you're watching it.

[Kathleen Post]

Probably not.

[Jackson Claude]

Good Friends and Neighbors, the Jon Hamm show.

[Kathleen Post]

No. I watched the trailer, though, and thought about watching it.

[Jackson Claude]

So I have been watching it. I'm like, I don't know. Maybe on episode eight. It just. The first season just ended, so I will get cut off. But I am speed reading for the redheads right now, and that's just taking up all of my free time. And I'm really enjoying the show. It's like a good scripted show. It's not amazing, but it's good.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And it's pargy, too. It's like a nice scene.

[Kathleen Post]

That was on my list. The storyline was a. It was interesting. I was like, huh.

[Jackson Claude]

I just don't know where it's gonna go.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

How much they could do with it.

[Kathleen Post]

That's kind of. After watching the trailer, that's where I was kind of like, I don't know how much they can do with this, but it would be fun. But yeah, right now, Slommel is taking up my content plate and I'm loving it. I'm loving it.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm jealous of you. I'm jealous of Anyone who has.

[Kathleen Post]

I feel like it's better than the first season.

[Jackson Claude]

It is.

[Kathleen Post]

I love Taylor, still love all the girls, but I do feel like, yeah, there's. I feel like my opinions on some of them have changed. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Which is what keeps it interesting, right?

[Kathleen Post]

Exactly. And I feel like they're still putting it all on the table, which I respect. I could never do that. Like, doing ketamine therapy while being recorded, that is.

[Jackson Claude]

Have you done ketamine therapy?

[Kathleen Post]

I have not. And if I ever did, I think it's. And I don't know. I mean, it's. I think it's something that they use to treat. I could be. I'm not the right person. Natural. I was gonna say, like, trauma, but.

[Jackson Claude]

What does it entail? Yeah, I saw them do it on the show, but, like, what does it entail? And, like, some people do it often.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I think you can, like, maybe do different cycles of it to, like, work through something, but it seemed like it was just a super emotional experience, but I would never want that recorded.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But I think, like, they've all just signed this contract with each other and themselves and their partners being like, we're gonna put our entire lives on the show. Like, this is our chance at stardom, and, like, this could set us up for the rest of our lives. And they're doing a really good job of it. And you have to, like, respect that. They are just willing to bear it all.

[Kathleen Post]

I respect that it so much. I mean, they are not holding back anything. I really hope I never have to hear someone say dry humping ever again. That's something I do not want to hear come out of a grown man's mouth.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

But I love that they just put it all out there and they. Yeah, I could never do it, so I have so much respect for them.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And, like, when people do that, they really deserve all the. All the positive things that come with, like.

[Kathleen Post]

And I think they will. Like, I feel like Taylor is. I mean, she's already a star, but I think she's. She's. She's got a bright future ahead.

[Jackson Claude]

I agree. Our fourth story. Some exciting Sabrina news. Because Sabrina Carpenter is bringing booty shorts to the next level in a not safe for work new music teaser and billboards around town. So rumors are swirling. Whispers that Breener is going to be dropping new music. She has some billboards in, like, her classic Serena style. One of them says man Child. So, like, all of this is equaling maybe, like, a new single coming out called Man Child, probably about Barry Keoghan, and there's a video she posted to her Instagram of her trying to hitchhike and, like, cute little booty shorts. So I feel like we're getting a single and a music video, and we kind of need that for Breener, even though she's. She's kept us fed.

[Kathleen Post]

She has.

[Jackson Claude]

But I guess there's, like, a kind of a dearth in the pop space. I feel like right now, like, the pop girl, he's going off. It's like, Tate McCrae and Addison, and.

[Kathleen Post]

We'Re ready.

[Jackson Claude]

It's not doing it for me personally.

[Kathleen Post]

But I am also Addison.

[Jackson Claude]

Old. Yes.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay. Same. I think we need some new Sabrina. Tough time to be Barry, I think.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, he did what he did.

[Kathleen Post]

He did what he did.

[Jackson Claude]

He had it all.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

He had it made in the shade.

[Kathleen Post]

He really fumbled. I hate to admit this on air, but there was a time when I was like, I kind of get the.

[Jackson Claude]

Berry high when you watch Salt bae.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I was like, okay, I can see it.

[Jackson Claude]

You watched the movie?

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, I did. Did you?

[Jackson Claude]

No.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, it was. It was interesting. It was entertaining.

[Jackson Claude]

So you thought he was like. No, I just.

[Kathleen Post]

I don't even know if I'd go so far as to say handsome.

[Jackson Claude]

Like he had something. Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Like, I was like, okay, I see it. Like, I. They're. They're cute together. Like, I. There were some. Maybe more flattering, like, clips of him on the red carpet, and I was like, okay, I kind of get the hype. And now I'm just, like, so icked out by him. He just gives off, like, little rat boy energy, and I just. But, you know, I feel like I can be so easily swayed. Like, I feel like with Timothy, I at first was just like, little rat boy. Yeah, little rat boy.

[Jackson Claude]

And then Rat boys in. I thought last summer was, like, Rat Boy Summer. Did you see that?

[Kathleen Post]

I think. I think it's wrapped by 2025.

[Jackson Claude]

I think so, too. Because of Timothy?

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, because of Timothy.

[Jackson Claude]

But he's not being rat like.

[Kathleen Post]

No, no, no. He's giving King energy. But I will say I put him into that category at first, and then I saw.

[Jackson Claude]

I think that is where he comes from.

[Kathleen Post]

He does. He has. He is the elk of a rat boy.

[Jackson Claude]

But he's now going on to bigger and better things. He's Rat King.

[Kathleen Post]

He's Rat King. Isn't that in, like, the Nutcracker?

[Jackson Claude]

There's, like, a rat king. That's what I was like, where is that from? That's a real thing. The rat King. I'm seriously cracking up. We've read the Nutcracker back and forth so many times. Well, it's in everything, but we read the book, and some versions call it the Mouse King, some it's the Rat King.

[Kathleen Post]

Was it a book first, before it was a musical?

[Jackson Claude]

Well, so first it was a story, and then it was put to music by Tchaikovsky. Okay, so it's like two separate things. And some. The girls, Maria.

[Kathleen Post]

Some.

[Jackson Claude]

She's in Clara. There's a lot of things. I think it gets lost in translation from the original Russian.

[Kathleen Post]

I have to Google it whenever I see it. My niece is a ballerina, so I frequent the Nutcracker, and every time, I'm like, okay, what's happening? It's a tough watch, but it is.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't understand. Like, the whole thing is a dream. And the two Maria and Franz, like, are not the. No, that's her brother. Maria and the Nutcracker, who turns into the prince, are eight years old on a world tour, and then she wakes.

[Kathleen Post]

Up, and then I'm like, which part's the dream? Which part One's real. Do we. Yeah. But back to Timmy. He. He did grow on me. I. Once I saw Dune, I was like, okay, I get the hype. I.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Like. And not that I'm like, oh, my gosh, he's so attractive. He's still giving Rat King energy, which is not my type. But I'm so happy for him. But I. I was like, okay, I get the hype. And that's kind of how I felt about Barry for a little bit. Got it. But now I'm like, which could happen to Timothy someday.

[Jackson Claude]

Only if Kylie turns on him, and I'll do what Kylie says.

[Kathleen Post]

But if Kylie turns on him, then it. It could be bad.

[Jackson Claude]

It would be bad. You do not want to hurt our cry.

[Kathleen Post]

Right now. Thriving as king of the rats.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't think he'll hurt her. I think even if they break up, it won't be nasty. And I don't think it'll be because, like, he did her dirty. Watch me be so wrong. I'm seriously wrong about all of, like, my relationship predictions.

[Kathleen Post]

Clip it.

[Jackson Claude]

Clip it. But I think even if they break up, which I could leave space for the fact that that could happen, even though I don't think it will.

[Kathleen Post]

You think they're in game?

[Jackson Claude]

I do.

[Kathleen Post]

Do you think they'll have a baby?

[Jackson Claude]

I do. I really do. Maybe I'm so delusional, but I'm having fun.

[Kathleen Post]

I can't believe their Two years going strong. To me, it just feels like it's.

[Jackson Claude]

Just more in love, more in love than ever.

[Kathleen Post]

More in love, more touchy than ever. Nyx Lingerie. It all goes back to the Nyx Lingerie.

[Jackson Claude]

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[Kathleen Post]

I am.

[Jackson Claude]

Brooklyn and Nicola are on the COVID of Glamour magazine. Photos are pargy. They sat down for an interview with Glamour wide ranging talking about their wedding. This is all very interesting to me. I didn't read the interview yet, I probably won't. But it seems like we're talking a lot about Brooklyn and Nicola these days. There seem to be on like a bit of a press tour. Like a article came out yesterday that they've hired Meghan and Harry's lawyer.

[Kathleen Post]

I saw that but.

[Jackson Claude]

And then a few weeks ago reported they went to dinner with Meghan and Harry. I think those are like two things that they shouldn't do.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I want what would they need their lawyer for? Because I understand with Harry and Meghan and you know they're much more family tied up but what would they need a lawyer for?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Kathleen Post]

Is it like we want this money from the family or they hired the.

[Jackson Claude]

Lawyer to do what? Let's see. Oh, Daily Mail subscription.

[Kathleen Post]

Nope. Pass.

[Jackson Claude]

You know I'm going to go to my tried and true Page Six. Six. Okay. They hired UK lawyer Jenny Afia who is a partner at a firm to help them with their reputation management. A source tells Page Six that they are fed up with so much shipping written about them. A second source said, sort of sad to see these desperate and unnecessary. Okay, that's someone's opinion. So I guess reputation management, like crisis.

[Kathleen Post]

Pr, which I thought it was like.

[Jackson Claude]

Megan and Harry also did.

[Kathleen Post]

Splitting from the family management or something.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. Like, how do I leave my family and keep all my.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. Which I was like, is this a thing? Which I could see maybe with the.

[Jackson Claude]

Royals, but, like, divorce for kids is a thing if you're under 18, but, like Brooklyn. But I mean, she doesn't want to.

[Kathleen Post]

Go home, but more like. Yeah, divorcing from the family. Like, if there was something about, like, money being tied up or.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it seems to be just about, like, reputation and, like, being able to probably sue people who are writing negative stuff about them now they're on the.

[Kathleen Post]

COVID So I don't feel like people.

[Jackson Claude]

Are writing negative stuff about them. I feel like them not going to the dad's 50th birthday is like the nail in the coffin.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. That was a statement. You don't miss your dad's 50th birthday.

[Jackson Claude]

I also feel like this cover, they're really. As much as they hate them, like, wanting to be Victoria and David Beckham in this. And there's so many image. Like, he obviously looks like his dad, but, like, she's just like a gorgeous supermodel like his mom and the most.

[Kathleen Post]

Gorgeous in the room.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, she has dark hair right now. Like, Victoria didn't like with their. Like, it looks like an old Calvin Klein kit. It looks very 90s. Like, it's very David and Victoria. So it's just, like, funny that they want to separate them from them while also, like, wanting to skin and wear them.

[Kathleen Post]

Yes. But I do feel like 90s, like, denim is just kind of classic.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah. No, you can make that argument. But this just feels like we're the new David and Victoria.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. Yeah. It's big shoes to fill.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I wouldn't endeavor to do it.

[Kathleen Post]

I would not. But when you are the kids of them, that's kind of. I feel like they'll always be compared to that. You know what I mean? A beautiful woman you're always going to be. And does she have a beauty brand?

[Jackson Claude]

No.

[Kathleen Post]

Why did I think she did?

[Jackson Claude]

No, she's like an actress and producer.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay, got it.

[Jackson Claude]

The pictures, the other pictures from the shoot are really beautiful as well. It's just like a random time for them to be doing PR together. But I feel like it all actually, like, this sort of dignifies all of the rumors, like, and the Fact that they're hiring someone to deal with their reputation. Like, I feel like they're trying to push forward as a couple. And it's like, it's not giving for me.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So even though I love them as a couple, I just want them to, like, stop and go home and call his dad and say happy Birthday.

[Kathleen Post]

I know it is really sad, but we don't know what happened behind the scenes, but. So there's nothing there. Are they promoting something? They were just on the COVID I don't know.

[Jackson Claude]

I would have to read the article to find out. And I don't know that I will because, like I said, I'm reading for the Red Hooks right now.

[Kathleen Post]

What book are you guys reading right now?

[Jackson Claude]

Now? Seven and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle. And it's like, very. It feels like a Julian Fellows.

[Kathleen Post]

Is there show any relation to like, seven?

[Jackson Claude]

No, like, literally.

[Kathleen Post]

And you could say seven and the Evelyn.

[Jackson Claude]

And you could say, like. Oh, the author copied the title when I tell you this author has never heard of it. Because just it's literally set like 1920s British countryside. It's like a Julian Fellows movie in a book. It's a murder mystery, too. And I just know that if you asked him, who's Evelyn Hugo? Like, he would have no idea. When I first chose it, of course, like, and maybe even the title, it was like, interesting to me. Cause it reminds me of Evelyn Hugo. But these two things could not be more different. Unfortunately, though, the book is. I can't say it's bad because it's a good book. It's like the mystery just keeps unraveling. It's so layered, but it's just like, it's a serious book. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that.

[Kathleen Post]

I've listened to or I've read a few of the Redhead books. Maybe. What was the one about where she goes to the hotel? Like Nantucket. Yeah. Wedding People. I read that one. There are a couple other ones that I've read, but yeah, that one doesn't really seem like it's up my alley.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, we'll see. I haven't finished it yet. And I feel like the ending is gonna be like. We've been working towards a big ending, and if the payoff is good.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

You might hear me saying something different on the episode. Let's get into Dear Toasters because we need to help the girlies out. We have some really great submissions today. Dear Toasters is our weekly advice segment. If you want advice from Jackson Friends or Jackson Claude when she's Back right into deartosers gmail.com or head over to our website and submit your quandary. It will all be anonymous. The website's automatically anonymous and if you do, email us. Like, we will never share. It's not even on my dot. Like, we details out the window. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. Let's start with our first one. Hey, Jackson. Friends, I found myself in a bit of a dilemma, and I need the help of my favorite swirlies. I'm a freshman in high school and the adjustment has been very difficult for me. I've always been a positive and outgoing girly, but coming into high school, I have shut myself off and I now lack any real close friendships, which I have never struggled with before. I listen and look up to you guys so much, so I'll take whatever advice you guys have to heart. Thank you so much. Oh, this really touches my heart. First of all, I love that you are in high school and you're a toaster. Like, that means the world. I've actually been here myself. I don't know if you listened to our Patreon episode when we talked about our childhood and growing up and how I switched high schools in the middle of high school and I had a really hard time making friends and, like, I literally had to apply myself to making friends. And it's just sort of the thing where, at least for me, like, I had to just disassociate and, like, pretend to be someone that I was not. Like. Like an outgoing, not shy person.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

And get her done. No, it was so hard to do. And it definitely, like, made me stronger as an individual and just put yourself out there. And I feel like in those moments, I'm just like, okay, I'm not me. Like, I'm just a person who is a going to make a friend right now. And I feel like you could find, like, different ways to connect with people, like, based on hobbies that you have, like, maybe joining some clubs or if you have a certain subjects that you really like. Like. Like finding people in classes that, like, you connect with. But I feel like you shouldn't feel bad that it's more of an effort for you than it's ever been before or more of an effort than it seems to be for other people.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. High school is such a tricky time, but I also feel like there's so many. This is such a wholesome dear toaster.

[Jackson Claude]

It's so wholesome and we need to help her.

[Kathleen Post]

Sweet. I just want to give her a hug through the phone, but you still have so much time ahead of you. And I feel like there's so many ways to get involved in high school that are just like, low stakes. Like. Like sports clubs. I don't know. There's so much. And I do think that, like you said, you just have to make a choice to put yourself out there.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, put your head down. Like, just.

[Kathleen Post]

You just have to do it. Yeah, it's gonna be uncomfortable, it's gonna be awkward, but you just gotta, like.

[Jackson Claude]

Go up to a group or two girls or one girl, be like, hey, guys, how are you? Like, I know it sounds like, seriously cringe, like, I wanna die, but that's what it takes. Takes if it's not happening naturally. And like, for some people, it's easier to make friends or they don't have to think about it, or they have childhood friends or family friends they've, like, built in friends. But it's not like that for everyone. And also realize that other people are feeling this way, not just you. And, like, someone. You might go up to someone and say hi and like, it will make their day. And you don't know what they're going through. So just sort of see it from like a bird's eye view of, like, you're not. It's not like everyone has their amazing friends and you're a friendless person, even though that's how it feels.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I think everyone in high school is insecure and looking for friends, looking for their identity. So even though you might feel like, oh, I'm the only one who doesn't have friends, or I'm shy, or I've just, you know, turned in on myself, there's so many other people who feel that way. And I think people are much more receptive than you think. I mean, you could even start your own club and invite people to join. People love. I don't know. I did that in high school. I started my own.

[Jackson Claude]

What club?

[Kathleen Post]

It was a fundraiser for Haiti because there was. Was. This was like 2011.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

There was all this damage from the hurricanes in Haiti. So I started this club and we would, like, do different. We would, like, make baked goods and sell them. And it was. It was so random, but it was so fun. And, like, I wasn't. Didn't necessarily do it to, like, make friends, but that's like a random example. But there was, like, a club I was in where we would play, like, what's that Banana Grams game?

[Jackson Claude]

Banana Grams? Yeah. Claudia was in a club like that. She loved that.

[Kathleen Post]

It was so random. But there's so much you can do in high school.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. There are so many ways to get involved. And even if someone else is having a fundraiser, like, if it's something that you want to be a part of, like, that is a great way to meet people. Like, you have to get people's phone numbers and connect and send them stuff, and, like, it just keeps you busy. And then you're like, oh. And.

[Kathleen Post]

Yep. And she said she had each network.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Okay. Well, I am a terrible singer, but when I was a sophomore, I joined show choir, and, like, they let anyone in. Like, I didn't even have to audition. But, like, what I'm saying is, it's not too late. Even as a sophomore. You know, like, you can do something new as a sophomore or a junior. You don't have. It's not like, oh, I missed my freshman year, so now I'm, like, locked into this. It's like, you can try something new as a sophomore. And I met so many people through that, and I was awful, but it was so fun.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Don't give up. Like, you can do it. It takes a little bit of hard work, but it will be worth it. And we are rooting for you, and we've all been there.

[Kathleen Post]

Yes.

[Jackson Claude]

Next up. Hey, Swirlies. My boyfriend and I have been together for almost three years now. Our relationship is very healthy and thriving, and he is seriously such a pe. Our plan is to get engaged next year and married the following. However, I have one aspect of this future with him that I'm have trouble getting over. It's finances. He thinks we should have separate bank accounts and deal with our own finances individually. I completely disagree and want to take more of a joint approach with shared accounts. I stopped bringing up the topic because I don't think I can change his mind. I trust him, but, like, what if he wants to spend it secretly? Is this gonna be used against me someday? What should I do? Is this a deal breaker? Thank you in advance. Love ya.

[Kathleen Post]

Tricky, tricky. So I. I know some people who do the separate bank accounts. We've never done that. And from the start. But also, we got married so young, right? Like, we were 22. Like, what money were we combining? You know what I mean? But, like, I actually really like that, and I feel like it set us up for a really good. Um, So I don't know. I could. This is only coming from my perspective of only ever having a shared bank account. Um, I just. I could see so many ways that this could go wrong.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It's like, I don't even know what's scary. If he has, like, all this money and he's spending it and, like, he's not sharing it with you. Or if he has all this debt and he's, like, hiding it from you.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Which is he hiding, good stuff or bad stuff?

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. And who's making more money right now? I don't know. Maybe she's better off keeping it separate.

[Jackson Claude]

If that's the case. Yeah. I don't. I wouldn't just assume. Like, maybe you don't want any part of his finances. Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

Like, keep it separate.

[Jackson Claude]

I wouldn't just assume. It's like, he's going off spending and doesn't want you to know about it. But we do a fusion of both of these things. So we each have separate accounts, but we have a joint account that we each put the same amount in and we use it for, like, joint ventures.

[Kathleen Post]

Maybe you could suggest a little combo.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, a little combo. I. The combo has worked for us because then also, you get to have, like, your personal freedom. If I want to get a little something, I'm getting myself a little something.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I will say that, like, there could be a lot of fights that come from having a joint account. I mean, when we first got married, I came into the relationship with debt from college, and we were on, like, a really strict budget. And I remember my husband would, like, check in on me and be like, what did you spend for $2.33 at Target? And I was like, I was picking up donuts for my coworkers, and it was just. I felt like I was, you know, had all these tabs, and he's a numbers guy, He's a finance guy, and, like, that was kind of what we needed at the time. So, like, it was fine. And, like, we're good now. It was stressful, but it was very stressful.

[Jackson Claude]

I just wanted my donations.

[Kathleen Post]

So, like, maybe it's better to keep it separate. I don't know. I think there's probably so many different opinions on this, but I like the combo idea.

[Jackson Claude]

It's. Yeah. I've not, like, had, like, an issue with it. I enjoy it. Like, so if you want to buy yourself, like, a Chanel bag.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. Now I can do whatever.

[Jackson Claude]

You do it from your joint account.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. But, like, we're both putting money in there.

[Jackson Claude]

Right? Right.

[Kathleen Post]

Right. Yeah. Now, if I was going to make a very large purchase, I would probably be like, hey, just a heads up, here's some thoughts. But, like, at this point, we've been married for so long, like, we all. I also kind of know what is worth mentioning, like, what that dollar amount is. So I'm not gonna go buy a new car or something without talking about it first. But I have financial freedom to do the things I want to do. But I think it also just depends on everyone, like, and everyone's work. Are you both working?

[Jackson Claude]

Right. It's only one person working. And, like, so it's their money technically. And, like, then you. You are just beholden to how they want to deal with it.

[Kathleen Post]

I do think even if he wants to keep things separate, there should be a conversation where you at least see everything. Put all the cards on the table. Are you in debt? How much are you making? Like, let's at least be transparent about it before you get married to this guy that maybe he's got a gambling addiction or something.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And I imagine she has a job if they're, like, not married and she's not living off of him as his girlfriend. But. Yeah, also making sure that you can but both put a agreed upon amount into a joint checking, like, that he's good for that and whatever else he has or doesn't have. Like, okay, that's your problem.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I do think money causes, like, the most fights in marriages or it's one of the things that causes the most fights. So my advice would be.

[Jackson Claude]

It's tricky. So I. Yeah.

[Kathleen Post]

I wouldn't just be like, oh, he's a p. Job. It's all good.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, But I also wouldn't be like, he's hiding something. It's a deal breaker. Like, it's a tricky subject.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. And really get to the bottom of why does he want to keep it separate? Like, is it because he doesn't want someone keeping tabs on him or. I don't know. But I do think it's something worth getting to the bottom of.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. I agree. And you have to. And I think if he's a PJM and like you said, like, everything about him is perfect. Like, this is an obstacle that you can overcome.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. And I do think it also maybe could be coming from his parents or, like, pressure from someone being like, hey, don't.

[Jackson Claude]

Someone who had, like, a bad experience. But every couple's different. Different.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So you guys have to find what works for you.

[Kathleen Post]

Just talk it through. And you know what? Maybe you'll want to keep things separate so you can buy.

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe. Yeah. Because you don't want to deal with what he's going on, which is not pargy.

[Kathleen Post]

Yep.

[Jackson Claude]

Who knows? You never know. Next. I am Divorced out of a toxic, verbally and emotionally abusive marriage. Glad to be away from the situation and hope to deal with my ex as little as possible. My mother refuses to remove our wedding picture from her house. Every time I visit, I have to see the picture, and I hate it. It's not like it's a family picture. She has other pictures from that day that she could display. It's just my ex husb and I in the photo. I'm about to boycott visiting. If that picture is there, it's front and center when you walk in. What would Turdi and Jax do? And Kathleen. It personally gives me the major ick and ruins my day.

[Kathleen Post]

That is so, so, so weird.

[Jackson Claude]

I would knock it to the ground and break it and then be like, oops, garbage.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. I would just go in, swap out the photo.

[Jackson Claude]

Go. Go do a photo shoot for yourself. It's like, have you tried changing the photo to a different one that you like?

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, she does it.

[Jackson Claude]

Does it, like, resurface every time you're. It, like, regenerates, and it's still the picture of you and your ex?

[Kathleen Post]

I don't think she's tried. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

You need to take matters into your own hands. Like, of course it's upsetting that your mom wouldn't want to take down this picture of this now stranger, like, irrelevant person who hurt you. That's a different issue. But if we just want to tackle the issue of having to see the photo, get rid of it.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah. You have two options. You either go in and draw, like, devil horns and ruin your picture frame. Yeah, exactly. Or you hire a photographer, do a pargie photo shoot, or, like, make sure.

[Jackson Claude]

You watch solo bridal shots from that day. You don't even have to go into all the effort.

[Kathleen Post]

I'm just sure she just wants a picture of you. She feels like this is a special moment that I want on display, but this is not okay. And I would want nothing to do with any of those wedding photos if I were in your situation. So, yeah, either vandalize it to get your point across or swap it out with a portrait.

[Jackson Claude]

Swap it out. Passive aggressive. Even though definitely there's an underlying issue of, like, her not not being able to let go of this marriage or.

[Kathleen Post]

Which is. That's really sad.

[Jackson Claude]

Which is really, like, it's time to let it go. Yeah. But let's just start with the picture.

[Kathleen Post]

And it was obviously not a good divorce.

[Jackson Claude]

Obviously it was. And, like, your traumatic.

[Kathleen Post]

So it's time. It's time to let it go. You can steal it here's the thing. She's not gonna know how to reproduce that photo. My mom calls me anytime she needs to print something at cvs. She's like, how do I upload a file? How do I.

[Jackson Claude]

How does anyone print a photo?

[Kathleen Post]

It's tough, and they're always grainy. I mean, it's not an easy process. So the good thing is she will not know how to replicate that photo. So you're safe.

[Jackson Claude]

I totally agree. Get her done. And then deal with the obvious, larger underlying issue.

[Kathleen Post]

Yeah, you need her date. You need to talk to her about that and just tell her that it's time to let go.

[Jackson Claude]

Agreed. Well, that's your toasters. I think we've really helped out the swirls. Kathleen, thank you so much for joining me today.

[Kathleen Post]

Thank you for having me.

[Jackson Claude]

This has been an absolute so fun where can everyone follow you?

[Kathleen Post]

I'm Kathleen Post on Instagram, TikTok all the places and I'm just here for the girlies. I share my outfits and so cute.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm just here to help you look.

[Kathleen Post]

Adorable today and everything we match in our brown.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Your content is really partial ish fashion girly. So check it out. And we will be back.

[Kathleen Post]

This was so fun. Thank you for having me.

[Jackson Claude]

Anytime. We'll be back tomorrow with another wonderful episode. We love ya. Bye.