I Juuust Had A Baby: Thursday, February 26th, 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "I Juuust Had A Baby"

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: Thursday, February 26th, 2026
Episode Theme: Life updates, pop culture, motherhood, reality TV, social media drama, and hot topics with the signature Oshry sister banter.

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Main Theme/Overview

This episode centers around the ongoing adjustments and realities of postpartum life (hence, “I Just Had A Baby”), women’s health, celebrity gossip, and the latest trending stories in pop culture and reality TV. The hosts weave personal anecdotes with sharp, comedic commentary, serving their signature “Fast Five” stories with added Millennial musings, inside jokes, and audience engagement.

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Detailed Breakdown

1. Postpartum Reflections & “Had a Baby” Life (00:22—02:08)

• Claudia (Koji) shares the internal struggle of how long “I just had a baby” remains a valid excuse, joking, “I will be in hospice saying, ‘had a baby.’” (00:59)
• Jackie argues you earn back yourself emotionally only after 2 years, even if society expects moms to bounce back at 1 year.
• Both discuss the perks of pregnancy/postpartum (special treatment, parking, feeling special), but also the desire to return to normalcy.
• Candid conversation about physical recovery and feeling “good” again post-baby.
• Quote:
  • Claudia: “Now, like, everyone’s so nice to you… then when it’s over, like, you’re just a—” (01:10)
  • Jackie: “Wouldn’t you just rather be, like, good, feeling good?” (01:55)
• Ongoing theme: leveraging the postpartum card vs. genuinely reclaiming health and comfort.

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2. Health/Lifestyle: GLP-1 Meds, Migraine Woes, and Women's Health (02:08—03:31)

• Claudia announces switching from Zepbound to her “OG” semaglutide due to migraines: “I don’t feel like the zepbound is vibing with me… I’ve been getting migraines.” (02:22)
• Discuss personal approaches to medication—climate of individuality in “women’s health is so personal.”
• Conversation on food, hunger between shots, and the planned indulgent day before the next dose: “There’s something about the few days after a shot wears off where you’re your biggest, baddest self…” (03:19)
• Memorable Moment: Admitting to food control issues publicly, and planning to go "ham" at dinner (03:31).

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3. Social Media & Pronunciation Jokes (03:45—05:35)

• Recap of self-deprecating jokes about their own mispronunciations (e.g., "Game Tunes")—and their cultural impact on Toast fandom.
• Friendly dispute over whether it’s mean-spirited to tease others for pronunciation slip-ups.
• Quotes:
  • Jackie: “You are the queen of that. I might be like the jester… But you’re the queen of calling people out for pronunciation.” (04:18)
  • Claudia: “If that’s my legacy, I’m okay with that. It’s harmless fun.” (04:25)

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4. Target “Stealing” Drama & Self-Checkout Ethics (04:42—07:05)

• Claudia addresses recent criticism (“wokies coming after me for stealing from Target”) regarding a joke about possibly not paying for a baby onesie at self-checkout—clarifies intent, calls critics “narcs.” (04:48)
• Jackie shares her own Target haul, where she received a $5 credit after a barcode wasn’t found, and concludes she “made money.”
• Both poke fun at the hypervigilance of online commenters over minor Target mishaps.
  • Claudia: “And if I did, that’s on Target.” (05:10)
  • Jackie: “If Claudia, like, accidentally got away with one baby onesie after spending $500 at Target… That’s Target’s problem.” (05:15)

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5. The Toast Fan Community & Social Media Engagement (07:01—08:35)

• The hosts reflect on the supportive (and sometimes hilarious) comment sections, even suggesting their fans are funnier than late-night hosts:
  • “Jimmy Fallon got the job of, like, late night, when, like, somebody in the comment section of our daily episodes are funnier.” (07:35)
• Cute moment: Jackie realizes she hasn’t taken a selfie with her husband in a year; both reflect on how marriage and parenthood shift day-to-day habits and rituals.

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6. Modern Photos & Phone Tech Annoyances (09:00—12:36)

• Discussion on “photo overload” and new phone features to combine multiple images for the best shot (Google/Android’s “swap faces” feature).
• Bemoan the impossibility of simply “taking one photo” in a digital world obsessed with options/redundancy.
• Quote:
  • Claudia: “Most millennial women have, like, a hundred thousand photos in their camera roll. Because it’s probably like, 25,000 moments… 10 times.” (11:40)

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7. TV Recaps: Southern Charm, Streaming Woes, and Cast Drama (12:46—15:12)

• Jackie recaps the latest “Southern Charm” (Craig becoming the villain in Mexico, drama dynamics); both analyze cast behavior and question narrative timelines.
• Hulu login crisis and ever-changing access to streaming.
• Both joke about giving male reality stars the “grace” of “just having a baby.”

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8. Fast Five Stories

1. Mary Cosby’s Son Dies (19:47—23:24)

• Serious/Emotional: The death of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City’s Mary Cosby's son, Robert Jr.
• Analysis of grief, reality TV boundaries, and the hope Mary receives space/grace:
  • Claudia: “This is so sad… I hope the network is giving her grace… Just leave her alone.” (21:31, 23:14)
• Touching quotes about motherhood and not knowing who Mary can lean on right now.

2. Hilary Duff on Call Her Daddy – Breastfeeding, Combo Feeding & Celebrity Drama (23:30—27:39)

• Jackie spotlights Hilary Duff’s candidness on breastfeeding difficulties and combo feeding; Claudia remarks on the value of celebrities being honest about motherhood struggles.
• Discussion of additional interview moments (Duff’s reactions to Lindsay Lohan/Ashley Tisdale) and social-media-friendship/“beef” analysis between internet celebrities (Sophia Franklin, Alex Earl, Paige DeSorbo).
• Entertaining detective work on Instagram likes and what they might mean in the influencer cold war.

3. Bride Wars Peacock Reboot – Emma Roberts to Star (29:49—34:59)

• Emma Roberts to lead a TV adaptation of “Bride Wars” for Peacock (her Bellatris production company).
• Hosts discuss the original film’s “perfection,” nostalgia for that movie genre, the shift in setting (now in North Carolina), and whether the reboot honors or undermines the original.
• Banter about casting, reboots, and the creative drought in Hollywood.
  • Claudia: “Bride Wars is a perfect film. Thank the good old folks at Drybar for keeping it in the guys... I’ve seen it 20 times, 19 of them at Drybar.” (31:19)

4. Ballerina Farm’s 9th Baby Announcement (35:01—40:25)

• Hannah Neeleman ("Ballerina Farm") announces pregnancy with her ninth child—hosts express awe and fascination with her family, content, and “homesteading” lifestyle.
• Speculation about her privacy, choreography of her announcement, and logistics of parenting/housekeeping with nine kids.
• Joyous and non-judgmental attitude:
  • Claudia: “Pop off heroic queen… I could never do it, but I’m certainly not here to yuck someone’s yums.” (36:53)

5. Bill Gates Confesses to Affairs and Addresses Epstein Ties (43:15—47:41)

• Bill Gates admits at a Gates Foundation town hall to two affairs during his marriage, and apologizes for connections with Jeffrey Epstein.
• Both react viscerally to the inappropriateness (“justice for Melinda Gates”), company oversharing, and the awkwardness for staff.
• Repeat that Melinda was “always the better half,” and discuss how other figures in the Epstein files are responding vs. Gates’ public stance.
  • Claudia: “Justice for motherf***ing Melinda.” (46:47)

Bonus: The Masked Singer Recap (47:46—54:07)

• Discuss the recent unmasking of Heidi Montag as “Snow Cone.”
• Speculate Pug Caso is Philip Phillips and delight in the realization, giving context for their own past participation in the show.
• Share Masked Singer lore, behind-the-scenes tidbits, and the intricacies of "clues" and celebrity reveals.

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9. Closing Banter & “Anecdote Mining” (54:12—59:54)

• Hosts attempt to fill the episode to a full hour with bonus anecdotes, including:
  • Target mishaps (blueberries spill, self-checkout again)
  • Product testing (Spritz samples—“going to change the beverage industry”—55:45; mahjong tiles; Palm Beach trip vlogging; salad chain obsession)
  • Childhood stories: first kisses at bar mitzvahs, peanut allergies, family lore about classmates turned jingle writers (56:45–58:35)
• Exasperated, meta-reflection on trying (and failing) to reach the one-hour podcast mark.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On postpartum “excuses” & motherhood:

• Claudia: “When do you stop saying that? I will be in hospice saying, ‘had a baby.’” (00:59)
• Jackie: “Wouldn’t you just rather be, like, good, feeling good?” (01:55)

On social media call-outs:

• Claudia: “If that’s my legacy, I’m okay with that. It’s harmless fun.” (04:25)

On Target self-checkout drama:

• Claudia: “And if I did, that’s on Target.” (05:10)
• Jackie: “If Claudia, like, accidentally got away with one baby onesie after spending $500 at Target… That’s Target’s problem.” (05:15)

On Bride Wars reboot and nostalgia:

• Claudia: “Bride Wars is a perfect film. Thank the good old folks at Drybar for keeping it in the guys... I’ve seen it 20 times, 19 of them at Drybar.” (31:19)

On motherhood, Ballerina Farm:

• Claudia: “Pop off heroic queen… I could never do it, but I’m certainly not here to yuck someone’s yums.” (36:53)

On Bill Gates/Epstein saga:

• Claudia: “Justice for motherf***ing Melinda.” (46:47)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:22–02:08: Postpartum reflections & special treatment
• 02:08–03:31: Health/medication talk: GLP-1 switch, eating between shots
• 04:42–07:05: Target self-checkout debate
• 12:46–15:12: Southern Charm and streaming TV banter
• 19:47–23:24: RHOSLC Mary Cosby’s son passes away (Fast Five #1)
• 23:30–27:39: Hilary Duff on breastfeeding & social media drama (Fast Five #2)
• 29:49–34:59: Bride Wars reboot (Fast Five #3)
• 35:01–40:25: Ballerina Farm 9th pregnancy (Fast Five #4)
• 43:15–47:41: Bill Gates admits affairs & Epstein ties (Fast Five #5)
• 47:46–54:07: The Masked Singer (bonus story)
• 54:12–end: Anecdotes, childhood stories, and humorous struggle to fill an hour

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Original Tone & Style

Playful, conversational, slightly irreverent but warm; combines candid personal insights, pop culture savvy, and genuine affection for their audience. They oscillate between hilarious self-deprecation, earnest emotional support (particularly regarding motherhood), and sharp cultural commentary.

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Summary Takeaways

• Honest and funny take on post-baby life, celebrity debates, social media scrutiny, and the realities of modern womanhood.
• Highlights the joys and frustrations of their own family and public lives, with a consistent wink to their audience of “real ones.”
• Delivers up-to-the-minute pop/trending news with plenty of inside jokes and mutual support, making listeners feel part of the sisterhood circle.

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This summary conveys the full experience of this Toast episode—relatable, bingeable, and best enjoyed with your favorite Target find and a side of Mah-Jongg.

Transcript

[Koji]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Koji]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackie]

The best five things you need to know.

[Koji]

We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

They sound amazing.

[Koji]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a partial Thursday.

[Jackie]

I didn't know that was happening.

[Koji]

It's not.

[Jackie]

No, I think it is.

[Koji]

I'm like, every day this week. Wrong. Like, every single day. I just have so much going on. Like.

[Jackie]

Like, every day it's just a tornado.

[Koji]

I know. And, like, you know when you, like, start fighting with someone in your head? Like, I was like. Like this lady in the parking garage here today. Like, she, like, started with me and I had, like, a whole argument being like, I just had a baby. And I'm like, I literally had a baby almost a year ago. When do you stop saying that?

[Jackie]

I think one year. Like, you are postpartum. Well, first of all, you don't get back to your true self until two years. Like, emotionally, like, your DNA.

[Koji]

I will be in hospice saying, had a baby.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but I think you have till one year.

[Koji]

Gotta get pregnant again. Yeah, I'm pregnant and I just had a baby.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Yeah. Like, I'm. That's why it was like, that's the best part of being pregnant. Now. I'm obviously, like, romanticizing pregnancy. It was, like, one of the hardest things I've ever done. But, like, now, like, everyone's so nice to you. They take care of you, and then when you just give birth, they take care of you.

[Jackie]

Everywhere you go, you feel, like, special, like a celebrity. Like, you're walking through a restaurant, like, with a big belly, like, and then even when you're.

[Koji]

You have a newborn and then you're breastfeeding, like, you get split special accommodations. And then when it's over, like, you're just a.

[Jackie]

Like, yeah, I'm enter. I'm, like, slowly entering, like, yes, it's

[Koji]

almost over for you. It's almost like, we're not gonna accommodate around your schedule. And, like, you're everything. Like, you're that girl for the moment, for sure.

[Jackie]

But, like, pros and cons. Because then, like, the sooner you exit that stage, like, the sooner you feel more like, can just be like a human being and you don't need special treatment. The thing about, like, pregnant women and postpartum, like, you need special treatment.

[Koji]

You're going special parking.

[Jackie]

But, like, wouldn't you just rather be, like, good, feeling good?

[Koji]

I don't Know, stepping your step good is regular.

[Jackie]

Like, I want to park. I don't care where I park because I can walk.

[Koji]

Like, yeah, I'm good, but I can't walk. That's the thing.

[Jackie]

You're not good yet. That's the thing.

[Koji]

I wasn't good before. Like, I'm not a good person. Like, I'm not. Okay. I wanted to say big news in my life. I didn't even talk to you about this, but I've made a decision. I'm getting offset bound.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Koji]

Switching to semaglutide. I don't feel like the zepbound is vibing with me. Like, I. I'm having good results, but I've been getting, like, migraines and I think it might be due to that. So I'm just going back to my og.

[Jackie]

I don't know why you ever didn't do your OG for this trip around

[Koji]

in the O's for like my like, year and a half off, everybody was talking about that bound. So I just, like, I don't know why I was like, you just assumed

[Jackie]

you would step out even.

[Koji]

And Ben was on it and I was like, yeah, great, sign me up. We have the same doctor. So I was like, yeah, give me what he gave. You know, I just.

[Jackie]

Now women's health is so personal. I feel like we're always saying healthcare is so personal. Women's health in particular. Like, we're not the same.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And you had so much success when you did your first stint GLP ones. If I were you, I would say copy paste.

[Koji]

Yeah. So I'm just kind of like in this terrible period where I'm waiting for my semi glue tied and I am a week out of my zap bound. So, like, I'm eating good in the neighborhood.

[Jackie]

Let's go to lunch.

[Koji]

Like, we should vlog. Like, I'm ready to eat. I'm eating today. Literally.

[Jackie]

Super size me to vlog.

[Koji]

There's something about like the few days after a shot wears off where like your. Your biggest, baddest self, you know, like, worse than you are. Like, of course. Like, I have food control issues. That's why I'm on the drug.

[Jackie]

No, but you have some making up to do.

[Koji]

But in these days in particular, actually, I have a dinner reservation tonight. So, like, I think I'm gonna go ham somewhere.

[Jackie]

Good.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Have I been there?

[Koji]

I don't know. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

So good.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

A classic.

[Koji]

Yeah. I thought I'd like, go date night. I'm literally reading cart right. Date night. Who.

[Jackie]

Who? She I'm dating night with I don't know.

[Koji]

But like, that's her vocal stim. Everybody, when they copy her, they're like, day, night.

[Jackie]

You know, people can't live. Like, you can't just Laura, you can't

[Koji]

just be Irish speak no.

[Jackie]

Or Kentucky.

[Koji]

And I mean, that's so us. Like, when somebody flubs a word, you know, it's us. Like, Game Tunes is a typo that we literally will never let live down.

[Jackie]

I was actually, like, moving on from it until Valentine's Day happened again. So it was game to try as

[Koji]

we might, we couldn't move on Game Tunes.

[Jackie]

They, once again, you are the queen of that. I might be like the jester. Yeah, but you're the queen of calling people out for pronunciation.

[Koji]

I feel like if that's my legacy, like, I'm okay with that. It's harmless fun. It's annoying at best, but it's not mean spirited.

[Jackie]

No, but we have to talk to Margot.

[Koji]

Call Margo now, because she won't agree with me. She'll say it's mean.

[Jackie]

That's the point. She'll unload her trauma.

[Koji]

Can we talk about, like, some of the wokies coming after me for stealing from Target?

[Jackie]

You know what? I meant to talk to you about this offline.

[Koji]

I just want to say, like, narcs.

[Jackie]

Who are these?

[Koji]

I know. And like, I don't think that I stole. I was like, definitely, like, judging it up for the joke. Like, I did, like I said, spend 500 doll. Like, I'm pretty sure I got everything. But if I didn't, I was thinking, like, you know what? Well, that's what Target gets for making me. And I just want to say I feel like we've had a lot of wokies recently, like, coming in. The comments like, this showing for you. Go away. I didn't steal. It was a joke.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

And if I did, that's on target.

[Jackie]

I went to Target.

[Koji]

And I'm not a trained cashier.

[Jackie]

If Claudia, like, accidentally got away with one baby onesie after spending $500 at Target, like, why do people. That's Target's problem.

[Koji]

What do you work for Target? Like, for Target? I mean, everyone coming for me, like, seriously, I don't know, I feel like we've strayed into, like, unchartered territories.

[Jackie]

I just feel like that was like a bone that people just ran with. Like, not even the real ones. Like, yeah, it wasn't giving real one.

[Koji]

To be clear. Like, I'm pretty sure I didn't steal. And if I did. All I was saying was that's the self checkout tax.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I do think they probably account for that, like in their annual.

[Koji]

I went into the checkout process in an earnest manner. I was like, I plan to scan everything if the machine and I aren't working on the same level. I didn't build this system like, Well,

[Jackie]

I sort of had the opposite experience. I went to Target yesterday inspired by you, and it was everything that you said it was anymore. Like, I seriously could have bought everything.

[Koji]

I'm telling you. I know this is like, not a new statement. It's an amazing place.

[Jackie]

And I actually made money at the self checkout machine.

[Koji]

Why? You got a coupon?

[Jackie]

No, because something that I grabbed didn't have a tag or anything free.

[Koji]

No.

[Jackie]

So I asked for help and he like, tried to scan it and he couldn't. This is the way I think it. I don't know. Anyways, he was scanning it, looking it up, everything. Couldn't find it. And he said, like, you got a five dollar credit, like, because for my time and my troubles. I think that's what happened.

[Koji]

Did you also get the free item?

[Jackie]

Yeah, of course.

[Koji]

Wait, so you like double one.

[Jackie]

I made money.

[Koji]

That's amazing.

[Jackie]

I know. It was like a great.

[Koji]

And then I also saw you posting affiliate links from your haul. So, like, you really crushed it.

[Jackie]

I need to go to Target. Every day I need to go to Target. Bring them kids. Was it a daycare down I went like later in the day.

[Koji]

Nap time for the kids.

[Jackie]

It was more so like dinner time.

[Koji]

Oh, so it was like sort of like happy hour at Target.

[Jackie]

Oh, it was happy hour. And it was mighty happy.

[Koji]

So, like, to be clear, like, the Target warriors lay off. Okay.

[Jackie]

Leave Koji alone. As she said, she's going through a lot. She just had a baby.

[Koji]

I just had a baby a year ago.

[Jackie]

Okay, like, stop pregnancy brain.

[Koji]

Nine months in. Nine months. After you guys not hear my beautiful

[Jackie]

speech last week, it's like they. They do and then everyone's like, gay for turny. But then it's like the next day,

[Koji]

they're not giving charity Grace.

[Jackie]

They're not.

[Koji]

It's just.

[Jackie]

It's safer.

[Koji]

They never are.

[Jackie]

But we're not talking about, like, literally everyone listens to the show because. No. Like, it seems so understanding and so full of love and joy.

[Koji]

Love, joy, laughter, spirit and positivity.

[Jackie]

It's so true. The comment section sometimes, like, have me cry.

[Koji]

Oh, my. Jack and I are always sending each other. I feel like it's crazy. That, like, you know, like, Jimmy Fallon got the job of, like, late night. When, like, somebody in the comment section of our daily episodes are funnier. It is like, the most pure I'm belly laughing.

[Jackie]

What's more, like, it's good, but, like, so, like, I feel so stupid when, like, I post a picture and then, like, someone comments something that, like, I should have fucking captioned it. Like, yesterday I posted a selfie with my husband we took at in Palm Beach.

[Koji]

And the caption obviously should have been sender will text message.

[Jackie]

Of course.

[Koji]

And you forgot. It's okay, Jackie. You just had a baby.

[Jackie]

And I was just, like, so excited that we took a selfie.

[Koji]

Yeah, of course.

[Jackie]

I went into my phone to see the last time that we took a selfie together. Like, both of us without the kids. Just, like, both of us made up. Like, the two of us taking a selfie, and it was at a wedding we went to in March. We haven't taken a selfie together in a year. That's crazy. We used to take one together every day. Like, we would just be at brunch.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Koji]

Yeah, that is crazy.

[Jackie]

A year without selfies.

[Koji]

It's like a year without rain. Much like Selena Gomez, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah. When's the last time you and Ben took a selfie?

[Koji]

I actually take selfies of us quite a bit.

[Jackie]

Just the two of you?

[Koji]

Yeah. No rouble, no replay. Michael, we don't take other photos, just selfies. That's, like, our issue. We have no, like, photos taken by a third, you know, because it's literally just always us hanging out as the

[Jackie]

selfie camera continues to, like, zoom out.

[Koji]

One day it'll give you, like, an arm extension. Yeah.

[Jackie]

So maybe you won't have to confront that issue.

[Koji]

Yeah, but, like, I'm at a place in my, you know, physical journey where I'm okay with, like, exclusive selfies. Like, when I meet people on the street, they're like, it's okay if we take a selfie. I'm like, I would prefer it. Like, don't be asking your friend. Don't be asking your mom. Like, that makes me uncomfortable. That's like, sort of fantas interactions where I feel like Ben Platt, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, No, a selfie is always a good idea. I forgot I used to, like, seriously take selfies all. Not that that's good either.

[Koji]

No, that's not good either. But, like, the higher the angle, the closer to God and.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And with these new phones, like, you can zoom out on your selfies apparently

[Koji]

the Samsungs have been doing that for years. But again like nobody knew that because it doesn't matter.

[Jackie]

Yeah, like they go underwater.

[Koji]

You know, Samsung at first, Samsung's are doing things that like iPhones will be doing in five years and we'll be like this is amazing. And the Android users will be like we've been shouting at you for five years that an Android could do this. An Android could literally cure cancer and I wouldn't buy it.

[Jackie]

Go home green.

[Koji]

Go home green.

[Jackie]

Also Android does have a feature that I'm really waiting for iPhone to get. It's the one that we were talking about. When you take like a bunch of photos like especially with the kids and like all the kids are smiling in different pictures. There's not one where all are smiling. And Android has this feature where you can like use someone's face from the different shot and then you can make like a picture where everyone is smiling.

[Koji]

So I'm pretty sure that's not an Android feature. It's a Google phone feature. I don't know if Google Ph is an Android or just like considered one of the lesser phones. Are all the lesser phones considered Android? No, no, Android is a brand. Samsung.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Also you know, it's like a modern thing that like annoys me and like I wish we could come back from it but I don't know how we can. Like I hate when like you ask someone to take a picture and like you take 12. It's just like your impulse to take like if you were taking a picture

[Koji]

of me and you like yeah, if you want to do a good job you take multiples but it's all the

[Jackie]

same picture and like you don't know how to delete them because it's all like a good picture. But like, and there's no just taking one picture anymore.

[Koji]

Well yes, yes. I think the idea is like to give people options. But if you aren't moving in the photo. Yes, I have 12. That's why when I take a picture I'm like this. It looks like a stop motion video.

[Jackie]

I'm like yeah, but sometimes you could be off.

[Koji]

Even when we take our daily photo. I'm like this.

[Jackie]

Oh, I don't move.

[Koji]

I'm like is this a moving arm? Chin, jaw. I'm like,

[Jackie]

but what if you're like off?

[Koji]

I'm like Britney Spears and one of

[Jackie]

her dancing videos and taking the camera because sometimes that happens.

[Koji]

That does happen. But then it's on the person taking the camera to move with me. Then you're like, yes, of course, of course. But if. If you're truly a good photo taker, you're moving with me. You're working with me, not against me.

[Jackie]

Okay. But they might not be truly a good photo taker.

[Koji]

Then just take one.

[Jackie]

Just take one. I feel like. Let's get back to just one. Okay.

[Koji]

Two photos.

[Jackie]

Because sometimes I like to smile with teeth and sometimes without teeth. I like that variety.

[Koji]

That's why, like, most millennial women have, like, a hundred thousand photos in their camera roll. Because it's probably like, 25, 000 moments. 10 times.

[Jackie]

Yeah. That was the math on that.

[Koji]

Shut up. Was it? I said a hundred thousand and then 20. I would say it's probably 20,000 moments average four to five times.

[Jackie]

Okay. Yeah. I don't know. Like, I know it's never going to

[Koji]

go back to the way that it

[Jackie]

was, but sometimes I'm like, I just have the same picture in my phone over and over.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I don't know what's the best one. They're, like, all the same.

[Koji]

Different. Yeah.

[Jackie]

So that's just like, you know, modern

[Koji]

problems, we need modern solutions.

[Jackie]

Which would be.

[Koji]

Oh, the Galaxy Phone. Literally, Google phone picture thing. Actually, though, the Google phone picture thing requires you to take multiples.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

So the.

[Jackie]

The modern problem is.

[Koji]

Has a modern solution, and then we end up with one good one.

[Jackie]

One great photo.

[Koji]

All right. We might have to get a Google. Google phone.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Honestly, we could get, like, a work one.

[Koji]

I love that. I love that. I love that. We've got lots of stories today. What are they?

[Jackie]

Good stories. I watched Southern Charm last night. I didn't know that was happening. Zach and I went to watch JFK Love Story, but we were booted out of our Hulu. So as we.

[Koji]

The family Hulu.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I had been previously. We were on Zach's family Hulu forever. And then I got booted, and I

[Koji]

was like, let me try a different family Hulu.

[Jackie]

Let me try a different family. Like, maybe, like, there's, you know, they've got. They got touched by. By corporate. So I was like, let me try ours, because nobody complains about ours. So I tried our family, and I was on it for a couple weeks, and now I've been booted.

[Koji]

And I haven't heard of anyone getting booted from the Hulu, though.

[Jackie]

So I feel like starting.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackie]

It happened to me twice now. And so we were contemplating, like, we need to make our own Hulu. I don't feel like doing that right now. Let's see what's on YouTube. TV. I was gonna finish the summer house that I didn't finish the night before. And then I saw Southern Charm was recording, and I was like, oh, I have been so. I don't even know what day it's on. Cause I've, like, been missing it every week. So we watched the episode, and, like, everything I said last week, like, I don't see how Craig's the villain yet. Oh, here became the villain.

[Koji]

Okay, listen. We all have a role to play.

[Jackie]

We all have a role to play there in Mexico. Like, he's wasted, and he's, like, yelling at everyone and being very crazy.

[Koji]

I just feel like no one's giving Craig grace. He just had a baby.

[Jackie]

Like, no, totally. And I feel like no one is giving him grace. Like, he just went through a breakup, and, like, he is drinking more than he, like, drank previously. Like, because he was only drinking, like, soft alcohol liquor. Like, not hard. And obviously he's, like, hitting the bottle and, like, where his friends are just always yelling at him. And it's like, what if you try being there for him? And I'm so curious when in the season Craig came on this show because they started filming Southern Charm in, like, May or whatever. Craig came on the show in June, and he was talking about how it is the best season ever. Like, it's getting back to the roots of it, where it's like, everyone's single, everyone's having fun. They're on this trip in Mexico, and, like, Craig and Charlie are a spoiler alert, like, an item, and Austin and Sally are, like, hooking up, and it's, like, really, like, that doesn't happen anymore.

[Koji]

Right.

[Jackie]

Because everybody's, like, getting outsourcing their relationships, and, like, you know. You know, they don't really get, like, past hookups, so it's just fun. I get what Craig was saying, but did he come and say all that, like, before this? Before, like, he became the villain of the season or after?

[Koji]

I probably didn't know that he was the villain.

[Jackie]

No, I think he did. He's. Yeah, he's fighting with everyone.

[Koji]

Yeah. But, like, that's just a day of work when you're a Southern charm cast. Me.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And everyone, like, likes to talk badly about him in their confessionals, too, which is, like, super brave. But I was just. I, like, would love to know. And, like, when he was talking about Charlie, he was like, you would love Charlie, and I want to know if they were an item. He was just, like, you know, being coy thinking about it. Right. Right about something. So Southern charm stays winning stays being the best show.

[Koji]

I didn't really watch TV last night. Like Ben was having like a medical episode. Okay.

[Jackie]

I'm not gonna ask further questions. I don't know if we want to know.

[Koji]

No, he's fine. Completely fine. He does believe he's still concussed.

[Jackie]

Okay, well, let's get into the stories about further.

[Koji]

Oh, right. I'm sorry.

[Jackie]

It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you to do need to

[Koji]

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[Jackie]

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[Jackie]

Thank you. After Turd out.

[Koji]

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[Jackie]

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[Koji]

That's like why they hired me as a short.

[Jackie]

You're the perfect face.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Our first story is very sad and shocking news.

[Koji]

Oh my God, I forgot about this.

[Jackie]

Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Mary Cosby's son, Robert Jr. Has died at the age of 23. He was found dead after officers responded to an overdose call that turned into a death investigation on February 23rd. A Salt Lake City Police Department spokesperson confirmed to Page Six on Wednesday. Shortly after the news of her son's death broke, Mary spoke out, saying she knows that he is finally at peace. She said our beloved son Robert Jr. Has been called home to the Lord. Though our hearts ache, we take comfort in God's promise and in knowing he is finally at peace. We are grateful for your prayers and trust in the Lord to carry us through this time of sorrow.

[Koji]

No, I'm like, this was so upsetting. I feel like we watched this whole situation unfold really quite quickly. I feel like we, she, I guess maybe it was happening longer, but we found out about it in that kind of, like, groundbreaking conversation maybe a year ago. And then at the reunion, she was talking about how, like, he's in prison. And honestly, like, as a mom, she's kind of relieved because she knows he's like, safe in there and for it to have escalated so quickly. He just got out of prison. Like, ah, this is just like the worst possible ending to this story. And then like, this clip came across my tick tock just Like, I hadn't seen it when she was just, like, to get through to him. It wasn't, like, the original conversation. I think it was, like, later on, and she was just talking about how, like, he's the best thing in her life, and, like, she literally never experienced happiness until she had a son. And, like, it was everything she ever wanted and all the happiness in her life, like, she gets from him. It was just so.

[Jackie]

I think that was in the original conversation because that's what I watched in the season watch of Salt Lake City, and because he was saying that he, like, didn't want to be here anymore, and she was, like, saying, like, what a gift he was for her.

[Koji]

I feel so sad for her.

[Jackie]

I feel so sad, bad for her.

[Koji]

I hope she's okay. I really hope that, like, the network is giving her grace. Like, I know in moments like this, like, you know, reality TV crews are, like, told to, like, you know, capture it all. I do know that they've halted filming. Like, cameras went down yesterday. But, like, she needs time. Like, like, seriously leave her alone. Like, I hope. Unless she's, like, dying to film, which I can't imagine that she is. I just hope they really give her, like, all the grace imaginable. This is so sad. Like, I could not believe what I was reading.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

And I'd been following the saga for, like, a year or two, so, like, I knew that it was happening, but. But I just did not expect this to be the ending. And I had heard that he had just gotten out of prison, so I feel so, like, seriously heartbroken for her. I can only imagine what she's going through right now, and I feel like she's not a person who, like, lets people in. I don't feel like she's, like, a lot of people in her life to lean on in a time like this. She has, like, kind of a. Kind of, like, an untraditional marriage. Like, I don't find. Like, I. I just never. I don't get the vibe that they, like, lean on one another.

[Jackie]

We also don't know that much about it, so. We do or they don't. We really don't. I don't know.

[Koji]

I just feel like I don't know who she's leaning on in this moment. Like, I just really hope she has people around her because, like, this can be.

[Jackie]

Well, she's close with Angie now.

[Koji]

Yeah. But, like, real close or, like, TV close. Okay.

[Jackie]

Like, she's TV friends with, like, married. Like, you know, she has, like, friend. She's friendlier with, like, people on the show. But, like, I think her and Angie, like, unexpectedly formed, like, a really good, close friendship.

[Koji]

You need people, like, around you in moments like this, because if you're alone, like, you're not gonna be okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

I feel really sad.

[Jackie]

Like, me too.

[Koji]

I. I seriously, like, I will think about her and pray for her. Like, I feel really, really sad for her.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

What a cr. Like, what a crazy saga. And I just.

[Jackie]

Honestly, I can't believe it to be how it ends. Like, terrible. Like, feels like such a short amount of time, like, since.

[Koji]

Yeah. Since we found out about it. I don't know how much longer it was going on prior to that.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

But seriously, just, like, leave Mary alone. Like, if she never wants to come back to the show, like, just leave her alone.

[Jackie]

I think everyone will do whatever she wants, you know, Everyone, like, it will rally behind her. I really believe that.

[Koji]

Okay, good. I really hope she's okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah, me as well. Are you ready for our next story?

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

One of our favorite subjects.

[Koji]

What?

[Jackie]

Breastfeeding and combo feeding. Hillary Duff is on Call her daddy. And she was talking about how she could.

[Koji]

I was cracking up that I saw, like, so many things, like, coming out of this interview, like, the Lindsay Lohan thing. Yeah. Ashley Tisdale thing. But Jackie chose the breastfeeding one.

[Jackie]

She talked about her struggles with breastfeeding and combo feeding and supplementing. And I felt it to be like, so.

[Koji]

That's so funny.

[Jackie]

I didn't.

[Koji]

I didn't even see it.

[Jackie]

I always do wonder, especially when I first had Harry and I was breastfeeding. I was having such a hard time. Like, I really became obsessed with, like, knowing which celebrities breastfed. Like, how do people do it? It's so hard.

[Koji]

Right.

[Jackie]

And so I love when people talk about it, especially when it's like, they have something new to add to the conversation. So she said she could still cry thinking about breastfeeding struggles. Admit she was stubborn about combo feeding. Even, like, with her fourth. When you, like, think, like, you know what you're doing, and it gets easier. She had a hard time. I did also choose the Lindsay hand thing.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackie]

It was more so like, Hillary.

[Koji]

Right, Right, right, right.

[Jackie]

But to me, like, that was the best conversation. And what did she say about Ashley Tisdale?

[Koji]

She just said she was talking about, like, Matthew coma chiming in and, like, the whole saga. She just said she felt really sad for, like, the group of women who were, like, being slandered when, like, that really wasn't the truth. And then Alex was like, when your man chimed in, like. But, like. And it made. They made it seem like he did it without Hillary's warning, you know? And that's morning. Sorry. Approval of. What did you make of that? And she was like, he just so funny. It was kind of, like, a weird response. I feel like she didn't really add a lot because the Internet, it hand. Like, she came out a hero on that. The Internet handled it for her. It wouldn't be wise of her to, like, say more or do more. Like, let's be really happy with how this ended. She came out looking like a hero. Ashley's the loser. She's the winner. So she didn't, like, go there. She was very political about it, which I think was wise, because if you get, like, if we reopen it, it could only get bad for her.

[Jackie]

And, like, you want to win gracefully,

[Koji]

you know, it was very smart. And I don't think she's, like, a catty person, so I think that was, like, her natural inclination just to, like, like, move on from it. And then she also talked about, like, her beef with Lindsay Lohan.

[Jackie]

Yeah. She talked about crashing the red carpet at the Freaky Friday premiere and how Lindsay Lohan was her childhood nemesis. Like, of course she did that. And then she wasn't surprised when, like, Lindsay came to the Cheaper by the Dozen premiere. But, like, Chad Michael Very. Had invited Lizzie Hillary to the premiere of Freaky Friday. So she wasn't, like, totally a crasher, but she knew that Lindsay and her, like, we're not.

[Koji]

They were just, like, upstaging one another. And Lindsay went to the Cheaper by the Dozen premiere. Her. That's insane. Like, that's so crazy. I feel like. Also, you know what I want to talk about is Sophia Franklin's book announcement. Not. I was scrolling through the likes, and actually, Dumont posted about it today, which I was like, this is niche Internet drama that I'm so curious about. Like, who liked the announcement on Sophia's Instagram? Let me find it. Because, of course, Alex Earl liked it, which I feel like it shouldn't be surprising. Like, we know they hate each. Like, we know Alex hates Alex. Like, but just.

[Jackie]

Okay, I. And we know Alex hates Alex. Alex versus.

[Koji]

And as far as I know, Alex Earl and Sophia Franklin don't have a relationship. So it's not like I'm supporting you in your project. Like, I don't even know if they've met.

[Jackie]

Like, yeah, who else? But not everyone who liked it means that they have beef with Alex Cooper. Like, you can just support two business women yes, but my.

[Koji]

My thing is that I don't believe there's any relationship between Alex, Alex Earl.

[Jackie]

Liking it means something. But I'm saying everybody else.

[Koji]

No, everyone else, like, I don't think, like, Emma Ledger, you know, like, the people that I follow, I don't think Emma Ledger or Brooke Mead, you'll have a problem. But Ashton Earle liked it, too. I don't think Ashton knows Sophia. Okay. You know what I thought was interesting was that Paige to Sorbo liked it. And I feel like. I don't know if Paige desorbo and Sophia Franklin, like, have a friendship. I mean, they're both New Yorker, so maybe it's just like, you know, women, supporting women. Paige is a very supportive woman, like, of other women. But I feel like Paige and Alex Cooper have beef because they were, like, hot and heavy for a minute.

[Jackie]

Remember, like, they went on the podcast

[Koji]

a bunch of times. Hannah and Alex.

[Jackie]

Hannah especially.

[Koji]

No, And I think Hannah's good with Alex Cooper, like, because she was just on promoting her comed. So she's been on twice. But, like, around the time of Alex's Spotify deal was, like, the very last time Paige ever went on. And now I don't know why I've, like, always thought that maybe there was beef between them and now her liking this. I might just be starting stuff. I don't know.

[Jackie]

I don't know. It's impossible to know because, like, the way people beef these days is a cold war.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You know, nothing ever gets hot. Right. Right.

[Koji]

I just thought it was interesting.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But, like, I. I liked it. I have no horse in this race.

[Koji]

No, I liked it too. Well, I liked it because I know

[Jackie]

people could say, well, we liked it.

[Koji]

Like, right? I. I was supporting friend. I liked it, too.

[Jackie]

You know, a lot of people could be supporting a friend. Doesn't mean that they're taking any side.

[Koji]

I just want to check one thing. Just don't mind me.

[Jackie]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Koji]

Why does my phone freeze? Is Instagram down?

[Jackie]

I was. I've been having Instagram glitch. Yesterday. I tried to talk to people about it, but they weren't experiencing it. So I was. I.

[Koji]

Well, you were, like, barking at my tree and I was like, problems elsewhere?

[Jackie]

No. And it's still happening for me when I go to upload a story or a photo. Like. Like, my most recent images are, like, from July and they're all over the place. If I scroll down, then it's December. It's just, like, all over the place. That's what I'm Dealing with.

[Koji]

That's a lot. I'm sorry.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But I figured out a way around it because I still needed to post content.

[Koji]

Okay. Sorry. I. I was looking up something, but

[Jackie]

I figured your theory.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And?

[Koji]

Well, I wanted to see if Paige desorbo followed Sophia Franklin. And she does, because if she did it, I'll be like, oh, you went out of your way to, like, this photo. Alex Earl follow Sophia. Well, maybe they followed her, like, yesterday. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Koji]

Let me see if Alex Earl does. She definitely does.

[Jackie]

Following tab. Same.

[Koji]

Bring back the following tab.

[Jackie]

No, like, tea. There would be so much tea.

[Koji]

That way there would be. Alex Earl does not follow Sophia Franklin. So she went out of her way to go to someone's page and like it. Okay, okay. So that's shady.

[Jackie]

That is shady. Yeah. And it was always shady, you know?

[Koji]

It was always shady. Yeah. No, I. I might just be making stuff up with the page, and I

[Jackie]

think everyone else probably just wants to support Sophia.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just like. Like, I have thought for a while that, like, maybe there was beef between them because they were, like, sort of hot and heavy publicly, like, swirling it up, and then it kind of died down. But then Hannah still got involved.

[Jackie]

Well, you know, so I feel like

[Koji]

maybe Hannah likes someone. Like, they're good, you know, like, they.

[Jackie]

People get busy.

[Koji]

Yeah, of course. Different. You know, you live different places. Of course. Of course.

[Jackie]

It's hard to keep in touch.

[Koji]

Just a theory I'm putting out there. Sorry if that makes me toxic.

[Jackie]

I don't think so.

[Koji]

No.

[Jackie]

Are you ready for our next story? Some exciting casting reboot news. Emma Roberts will star in a Bride wars movie. Reim for TV in development at Peacock. So a new TV series that reimagines the 2009 film Bride wars is in development at Peacock, with Emma Roberts set to star and executive produce through her Bellatris production company, which did produce Tell Me Lies. So it has a 10 out of 10 track record.

[Koji]

Yeah, when we talk about, like, celebrity book clubs and, like, the Reese Witherspoon model, we don't talk enough about Emma Roberts. Like, she started, like, a very swirly millennial book club many, many years ago, before it was, like, really popular to do books.

[Jackie]

Not even that swirly.

[Koji]

It's very, like, intellectual.

[Jackie]

Yeah, very intellectual.

[Koji]

It's called Beltress. And then I guess she turned it into a production company. Was Tell Me Lies her first project or it was the first one of note.

[Jackie]

I think it was probably the first one because we would Note, anything that

[Koji]

she did, she's crushing it.

[Jackie]

One of one productions, First Kill on Netflix and Tell Me Lies.

[Koji]

Okay, so she's one for two, but

[Jackie]

maybe First Kill hasn't. Oh, no, it came out in 2022.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackie]

But you got to get your feet wet. Of course.

[Koji]

And she made it to Netflix.

[Jackie]

That's a success. Yeah, totally. So now.

[Koji]

Oh, Bride Wars.

[Jackie]

Pride Wars. And she'll be, like, using her production company.

[Koji]

Is she gonna be Kate Hudson or the orange?

[Jackie]

She's blonde, but she's also brunetting. She's also.

[Koji]

Yeah, right. But it was like. It's very much a movie about hair color.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So it depends which hair color she'll choose.

[Koji]

I'm hesitant because Bride wars is a perfect film, and I'd like to thank the good old folks at Dry bar for, like, keeping it in the guys because, like, I've seen Bride wars probably 20 times, and 19 of them have been while getting my hair blown out of bread at a dry bar. I love that movie. I love that genre of movie that was just, like, such a simple time, you know, I feel like the film is really a love letter to New York in the plaza. Like, it's really beautiful, and the concept is, like, funny and sort of timeless. Right. Like, you know, two girls get the same wedding date.

[Jackie]

So actually they're changing it up a little bit. So set against the charming backdrop of North Carolina Bride wars, the TV series follows a big sitting wedding planner, Emma Roberts Hurts, whose arrival in a small town sparks an epic showdown with the beloved local planner. As the two women battle to plan the same wedding, their rivalry quickly escalates into a larger clash over friendship, community, ultimately love.

[Koji]

So it's just really, like, the plan loosely based on.

[Jackie]

Planners are fighting. Right.

[Koji]

At least they're changing it a lot because, like, Bride wars is perfect and it should remain untouched. But if you want to, like, extrapolate a separate storyline from it, it really doesn't even sound like it's based on Bride Wars.

[Jackie]

It's giving Heart of Dixie.

[Koji]

What about it?

[Jackie]

Like, she's a big city doctor who came down to a small town, and

[Koji]

she was, like, competing with. Yeah.

[Jackie]

With the local.

[Koji]

It's a good analogy.

[Jackie]

Bride of Dixie.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackie]

You know, yeah, sure. No, I'm not gonna complain about things like this that are. No me.

[Koji]

You know, it does.

[Jackie]

Someone out there is thinking of me.

[Koji]

It does bear just, like, bringing up the timeless conversation about how, like, nobody can create anything original anymore. Like, everything is based on something. Everything's a reboot, a recreation A renew, renewal, reun. But this does feel a little bit more creative and inspired than some of the other like reboots we've.

[Jackie]

And it's good subject matter to be pulling from, you know.

[Koji]

Yes, it's such a good movie. Like Kate Hudson's bangs and actually like the star power in that film.

[Jackie]

Chris Pratt.

[Koji]

That was a crip Pratt's launching pad. Like I know people say what do people say was his launching pad? But like it is that movie. And who's the other husband? John Krasinski.

[Jackie]

Is it. And then the Brother.

[Koji]

It's a star studded movie. Or I might be confusing something borrowed.

[Jackie]

IMDb broad works other guy.

[Koji]

John Krasinski's in. Brought in.

[Jackie]

Oh yeah.

[Koji]

Something Blue.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Something Borrowed. Excuse me.

[Jackie]

Who like loves her and he's the.

[Koji]

The love interest in the sequel.

[Jackie]

Interesting.

[Koji]

Okay, Kate Hudson and Hathaway. Candice Bergen is the plaza. Brian Greenberg, you know him from how to make it in America. He's one of the husbands.

[Jackie]

Yes, he is Chris Pratt.

[Koji]

And Steve Howey is the brother. Oh, he's the brother.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Koji]

Oh, he's also in Something Borrowed.

[Jackie]

Show me him. That doesn't look like the brother.

[Koji]

I feel like, like the casting director.

[Jackie]

No, that's the husband of. Of Brian Greenberg, the brother. That's the brother.

[Koji]

I think I feel like the same casting director for Something Borrowed was the same casting director for this movie just because like it gives such similar vibes. Kristen Johnson, our queen, she is, you know, she's the woman who fell out of the window in Sex in the City. Yeah. She plays like the best friend at the teach at the school, right?

[Jackie]

Yep. Yep.

[Koji]

Such a good movie. Some of these people don't look familiar to me.

[Jackie]

She should start in a sequel of Bad Teachers.

[Koji]

Teacher.

[Jackie]

They should remake Bad Teacher. My favorite movie.

[Koji]

Yeah. I need to watch Bride wars again. Like that's the takeaway here.

[Jackie]

Okay, good. You have your homework.

[Koji]

I'm just like following a theory.

[Jackie]

Except it's the Traders finale.

[Koji]

Okay. The casting director was Marcia DeBonis and Jennifer Houston and then the casting director for Something Borrowed. They're both movies that are cast like very well. Okay, 100. Wrong.

[Jackie]

So I think it was just like the time.

[Koji]

I'm glad we followed my theory.

[Jackie]

I think it was the time.

[Koji]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Those were the go to's.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Koji]

What number four? I feel like I'm not, but it feels like kind of crazy to not be ready.

[Jackie]

No, I think, I think you're not ready.

[Koji]

Oh yeah.

[Jackie]

And Then. And then you'll get ready.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Ballerina Farm. Hannah Nealman reveals she's pregnant with baby number nine.

[Koji]

Okay, this shouldn't be shocking because.

[Jackie]

I'm sorry, this is shocking.

[Koji]

No, she literally, when she was doing press before, she was. Was, like, scarred by the Times, the Sunday Times or whatever she they asked, which I thought was such an inappropriate question. They asked her in Daniel that in that turned interview what their thoughts are on birth control. And they did answer being like, we don't use birth control. Like, if God wants to bestow another child upon us, like, then he shall. And I guess God bestowed because she's pregnant.

[Jackie]

Wow.

[Koji]

Apparently. And I saw people talking about this on Tik Tok this morning. Like, if you live in the area, like, it wasn't a secret. Like, she takes her daughter to ballet class and, like, she's fully pregnant. She has. Runs the store for a really long time. Time. So they think, like, the announcement means, like, perhaps she's even given birth.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God.

[Koji]

That's just what, like, a theory on Utah Talk was.

[Jackie]

That would be amazing if she was able to, like, have a totally private pregnancy. Being, like, a huge influencer and people,

[Koji]

like, in her town and her community, like, respecting that, not, like, selling it to Dumois.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Although I don't think this is the type of news like Dumont covers.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you can go and tell a friend, but, you know, at the end of the day, it's just like, the lady is pregnant.

[Koji]

The announcement was also very low key,

[Jackie]

and it was in, like, their new farmer protein. So she said they did, like, this

[Koji]

very beautiful movie about, you know, when you think of ballerinas, you think grace, you think elegance, you think poise, but what you don't think strength. And then it turns black and white. It's like showing all the muscles of the ballerina and how they, like, need protein.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And then she, like, walks away with her belly.

[Koji]

Yeah. No, not even walks away. Like, it wasn't a grand reveal. In, like, the 11th second, she just walks into the room where they're doing ballet and she's pregnant. Like, it was so low key.

[Jackie]

I love it.

[Koji]

And I feel like good marketing, of course, for their ballerina protein.

[Jackie]

Farmer protein.

[Koji]

Nine kids, like, pop off heroic queen, insane. You know, obviously it's a lot of kids, like, that needs to be mentioned, but that's her joy. Like, I don't think I could ever do it, but I'm certainly not here to yuck someone's yums when it comes to how many children they want to have.

[Jackie]

No, and it's like if you can

[Koji]

do it, if you physically can do it and they have the money, like a lot of you know how many kids you want to have, like is predicated by your financial situation. They seem to be doing quite fine. So yeah, do it.

[Jackie]

It's awesome.

[Koji]

It's crazy. Her content, like I'm like, I. I really, I hate to be one of those people because like I hate when it's like you have to tell us like how many nannies do you have and how many house. But I do wonder if she has a housekeeper because like she's making so many dishes just to make a smoothie.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And that's because she has to boil

[Koji]

everything and the kids are so messy. It's like. But just make yourself.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, but do you see her six year old made a loaf of sourdough. I made. You watch that.

[Koji]

I did.

[Jackie]

The six year old did a whole sourdough from like starter which if you made sourdough like that's insane.

[Koji]

She also made a beet smoothie with beets from their garden and she had to boil the beets.

[Jackie]

Like there were so many are really messy.

[Koji]

So many dishes involved. There was at least one dutch oven, a couple of mason jars, bowls, whisks, blenders. And then of course it was an ad for the part farmer protein because she made like a protein smoothie. I was exhausted watching her make this smoothie.

[Jackie]

As older kids, I'm sure that they help with like cleaning and chores.

[Koji]

They better.

[Jackie]

They seem to really have it like a nice system. They help on the farm.

[Koji]

Do you notice they've been traveling a lot ever since the like, you know you're being kidnapped by your husband and he didn't take you to great saligations. They travel now like all the time with all the kids.

[Jackie]

No, I only saw when they like lived in Ireland.

[Koji]

No, because she just posted about their trip. They were gone for a month.

[Jackie]

Where'd they go?

[Koji]

Where did they go? Like Scotland. Like a bunch of places. Sweden or like the Netherlands somewhere in

[Jackie]

like it wasn't part of Ireland.

[Koji]

No, no, I know that trip. But then she just posted oh and didn't share like that we got back from our trip and they went to like like that area. Do you know what I mean? Like the like Swedish. Sweden. Netherlands area. What's that area called?

[Jackie]

I don't know.

[Koji]

It starts with an N. I feel like Netherlands. No, no, it's like what's that region?

[Jackie]

You're an Nordic Region.

[Koji]

Yeah, I think they went there.

[Jackie]

That's so sweet. I don't think that she. Her pregnancy.

[Koji]

Oh, they also fly coach. I just want to say that her

[Jackie]

pregnant self and her eight kids are traveling just, like, prove a point to the Internet.

[Koji]

I don't know. I feel like they weren't traveling a lot before that article. That was such a crazy time.

[Jackie]

That was a crazy time. No, I think that, you know, she's gonna. Ballerina is gonna rain.

[Koji]

Reena's gonna rain.

[Jackie]

I know. I'm, like, really exhausted just thinking about that.

[Koji]

Like, but you know what's so crazy about them is that, like, they live. Live, like, on a homestead, so they don't, like. And they homeschool. So, like, you know, we don't get, like, paparazzi pictures of her. We don't even get, like, people in their town being like, look, I saw Ballerina Farm at the ice cream shop. So I would love to see them, like, in the wild. And the fact that they got on, like, a commercial flight, like, is so crazy to me. Like, why isn't there a picture? Do you know what I mean? I can't. And, you know, they do fly coach. I can't imagine them. Like, to me, they feel Amish and so, like, you know, Amish people don't use modern.

[Jackie]

Modern world. Yeah.

[Koji]

It's like. And they dress kind of Amish, too, so. So, like, I don't know. I feel like seeing them on an airplane would break my brain, and I. I need to see a picture.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Well, I hope she's, you know, relaxing.

[Koji]

Of course. Of course.

[Jackie]

Taking it easy and. And not traveling just to prove something to the Internet.

[Koji]

I'm telling you, I feel like the Internet has something to do with it. I feel like the Internet.

[Jackie]

Stay home, Rainer.

[Koji]

Yeah. Before you continue, might I just let you know that the remainder of today's episode is brought to you by Nana It. Because they're not just a baby monitor. It's literally peace of mind. They give you crystal clear view into your baby, while also helping you actually understand sleep patterns so you can parent with more confidence and less guesswork. So if you have a baby, you know, nan it. And if you don't have a baby, you might need to know nan it so you can give it as a gift and be the best friend to your future. Like pregnant swirly. So they've always, like, evolving new features, new products. They now have the Nan at Home display, which I happen to have gotten in gifting. So now that is an app on your phone. It's a, a baby monitor that connects to your phone or iPad and like you can watch your baby. You can learn about their sleep habits, get analytics, insights, like all their history. And they recently launched like a display monitor so that you can like leave it in your house and you don't have to be checking your phone all the time. When I tell you I've never gotten more DMS than I did when I got like you would have thought I got like a Birkin. That's how special it was. It's an 8 inch dedicated touchscreen monitor pairs seamlessly with your existing nano cameras. It gives you continuous real time viewing from anywhere in the house without needing to grab your phone. Now it's just everything. I feel like it's becoming a word. Like we don't even say baby monitor anymore. You don't say like I check the monitor, you have to check the nan it. You know, it's like the band aid, like it's becoming ubiquitous. It's a product that parents don't just try, they really rely on. And most families use Nanit for years, from newborn days well into toddlerhood. So if you've been thinking about upgrading your baby monitor, you just want more peace of mind at home, head to nanit.com and get 20 off a nano camera or the exclusive Nanit system with the home display, only [e-mail] the code for 20 off is the toast. Use it at checkout at n a n I-com code the 20 toast. Today's episode is also brought to you by Hers. We were just talking about how traditional hair healthcare is so personal, especially for women, and it doesn't always leave room for follow up or context. Care should not be one size fits all. It should look at the whole picture, not just a snapshot. And hers totally understands that while traditional healthc care often feels like it's built for efficiency, not real life. If you've ever wanted a health plan that actually fits your schedule, your symptoms and your priorities, you're really not asking too much. And hers understands that. So they have totally rethought the outdated healthcare system to finally give women what they deserve. Reserve, which is care that's convenient, supportive, built around their needs and backed by experts in women's health. It's not just one size fits all. It's an ongoing support system that fits your life. Just start with a free online medical intake form that goes beyond the basics so you can explain what you're experiencing and if something feels off but you aren't sure What HERS also offers access to in depth lab testing giving you real clarity. If eligible, a licensed medical provider will determine right for you. Treatment plans that go beyond just medicine with diet and lifestyle guidelines guidance. They offer comprehensive hair comprehensive care done entirely online for health concerns women do not want to navigate alone. You can reach out 247 with any questions or help adjusting your plan so it's care that moves you forward instead of staying stuck. Feeling like yourself again does not feel so far away. It's time for you to get the support that actually reflects your needs. Start your free [e-mail] that's F-R-H-E-R-S.com for hers.com thank you for taking Turt. You're welcome.

[Jackie]

Our fifth and final story. And then we have a bonus story. Bill Gates confesses to cheating on his ex wife Melinda with two women during their 27 year marriage.

[Koji]

God. Like, seriously, justice for Melinda Gates.

[Jackie]

So Bill Gates, like, gave a town hall to his foundation.

[Koji]

Oh, you know, I saw like a story about this and I didn't read it.

[Jackie]

So he talked. He like copped to two affairs while he was married and then also like apologized for being associated with Jeffrey. Though he never saw anything on tour happen with Jeffrey. He admitted on Tuesday to his foundation that he did have affairs with two Russian women during their 27 year marriage.

[Koji]

I would like seriously feel so awkward if, like, I just went to work and my boss is like up on the stage like, telling me his deep, dark secrets. Like, I'm all set. Justice for like the women. Oh, no, sorry. Everyone, honestly, who had to just like go to work that day. Like, they have things going on in their lives and like, why is that, like, this is so inappropriate?

[Jackie]

He told his staffer, quote, one was a Russian bridge player. Player who he who met me at bridge events. And one was a Russian nuclear physicist who I met through business activities. No.

[Koji]

This is so much information. I feel so weird. And I wasn't even there.

[Jackie]

He also apologized to his staff members for his ties to convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

[Koji]

Well, that's good.

[Jackie]

He notably insisted that he did nothing elicit and saw nothing elicit while traveling in the U. S Abroad with Epstein. To be clear, I never spent any time with the victims, the women around him, he claimed to his staff. He went on to give his wife credit, saying Melinda was always kind of skeptical about the Epstein thing.

[Koji]

Oh.

[Jackie]

But he insists that, you know, all was kosher.

[Koji]

I feel like Melinda Gates has really been. What's the word I'm looking for? Yeah. Because, like, she was always getting looped in with her husband. Right. And, you know, when you're, like, that wealthy, like, people do, like, theorize about you all the time. A lot of times it, like, means nothing. But she was, like, always, the gates, the gates, the gates. And then she was like, fudge this.

[Jackie]

Just like, bill, you can't.

[Koji]

You can't even, like, be loyal to me. And I'm over here, like, being called a pedophile for you.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

So I love that she got out and she don't give a fudge. Like, she was just giving an interview. Like, she's not holding back. I think this is, like, so crazy to, like, tell at work where was hr? Feels like, definitely crossing a line.

[Jackie]

I feel like everyone else that's in the Epstein files to a certain point is just sort of like, you know, backing away, like, positions. They're resigning. Peter tlfcbs News. Like, they're either being fired or they're just. Just, like, quietly going into the dark. Like, you know that, because that's, like, the thing to do. And Bill, he won't go down with this ship.

[Koji]

Right.

[Jackie]

You know, like, he has his. Like, he's not gonna go quietly. He's not gonna go, period.

[Koji]

Right. Same with Casey Wasserman. He. We talked about that, and he said, like, he refuses to leave his own company, but he's now putting his company up for sale. I think he thinks that's, like, a fair way for him to, like, not have to, like, give up what he worked for and for all the clients to, like, be happy that he's gone. I don't know who bought it.

[Jackie]

It.

[Koji]

It's kind of like a sinking ship. Like, I wouldn't. Like, you get a great price.

[Jackie]

So after we spoke about it, like, I was reading a little bit more about Casey Wasman, and it's like, there's not really a smoking gun. No.

[Koji]

It's very circumstantial.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

So, like, if I'm Casey Wasserman and I really believe that I didn't do anything, like, why would I sell my. Or why would I leave my company?

[Jackie]

That I created an emission of guilt.

[Koji]

It is. That's true.

[Jackie]

A guilty person would do.

[Koji]

That's true.

[Jackie]

And if you didn't do that shit, like, you don't deserve to have your whole life's work taken from you.

[Koji]

That's true. Like, you don't see Prince Andrew, like, defending himself.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Right. Right. I don't know. I obviously, like, I don't follow Bill Gates. Like, I. I I don't use Microsoft

[Jackie]

like a Gates foundation swirly.

[Koji]

I don't even know what they do. So, like, sorry that happened. Thanks for sharing. And I feel weird. So. So thanks for that. And, like, justice for Melinda. Like, justice for motherfucking Melinda.

[Jackie]

He is such a big character in the files, and everybody else who's a big character in the files really has, like, quietly just gone.

[Koji]

Yeah. Escaped.

[Jackie]

But if he wants to keep working, like, he does have to address it.

[Koji]

But does he. Does he need to keep working? It's my understanding he sold his company.

[Jackie]

He doesn't need to keep working. He's a billionaire.

[Koji]

Right.

[Jackie]

So, like, wants to keep working. And like, he. He's like, you know, he likes being like a.

[Koji]

A billionaire.

[Jackie]

Man of the world.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So if he wants to still be, like, on stages and stuff and talking to people, like, you have to just address the Epstein elephant in the room. And he did his best.

[Koji]

Axel Dumois would never.

[Jackie]

No, Axel Dumois would never ever. So this is. So that's that for Bill.

[Koji]

So thanks for sharing. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Our bonus story.

[Koji]

And I feel like the details that he gave about his mistresses were really unnecessary. Bridge, like. Okay, thanks.

[Jackie]

Our fifth. Our bonus story is news that we'll be sharing every week because it's very pertinent to our situation. And that is a Masked Singer unmasked.

[Koji]

Oh, yes. Please keep me abreast.

[Jackie]

The Masked singer revealed the identity of Snow Cone.

[Koji]

I knew this one.

[Jackie]

Pug Caso. But we'll talk about Pug. Heidi Montag was unmasked as Snow cone last night on the Masked Singer.

[Koji]

So this was the first person I knew because I heard her recording.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Koji]

And what's so funny is that when I was in LA, I DM'd Spencer cuz I was booking for your maternity leave and I was like, would you come on? And he was like, I'm so busy. I'm in Santa Barbara, I can't. And I feel like. Well, yeah, he was probably, like, holding down the fort. Yeah.

[Jackie]

While hiding.

[Koji]

Or he just didn't want to come on. But he could see it.

[Jackie]

I feel like he would want to come on.

[Koji]

And he's been on many times.

[Jackie]

Yeah, he was busy holding it down while Heidi was. I had no idea I could have recorded backstage.

[Koji]

Little did we know. It could have been so easy.

[Jackie]

Adjoining trailers.

[Koji]

She made it really far.

[Jackie]

Yes, she did. How many people are there?

[Koji]

I don't know. A lot.

[Jackie]

A lot. So we need to talk about Pug

[Koji]

Casto because more information has been released.

[Jackie]

More Information has been.

[Koji]

The Pug Castle files have been released.

[Jackie]

You guys, it seems like Pug Castle is Philip Phillips, which is insane. Like, we couldn't be bigger fans of his. We're always talking about him organically.

[Koji]

I feel so much better, you know, because, like, obviously I've a, like, a chip on my shoulder. Like, I lost. I think I'm the best singer ever. And the first time I compete with someone, like, I lose. You can't sing. Right. I was up against the winner of American Idol on a singing competition show. Like, are you. Oh, and also, like, one of the greatest performers of our time, like, wrote the. Literally wrote the best song of our generation home. I don't feel bad in the slightest, the fact that I almost won and Jenny McCarthy, like, said to me offline, she was like, I couldn't believe you lost your head on whatever it was called Battle. Like, I feel great.

[Jackie]

So now can I share my truth?

[Koji]

What.

[Jackie]

Which is that, like, I really like Pugaso.

[Koji]

I love the version of. Of Ordinary that he's saying. It reminded me of a lot of the Luke Combs version.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Well, like I said last week, like, before we thought it was Philip Phillipson. We were like, Anthony Ramon scored Overstreet. Whatever. I said, like, I'm, like, really obsessed with P. And you were. I hurt you that I was saying

[Koji]

that you were, like, standing my up.

[Jackie]

As the kids say, standing your eyes up. Now can I stand your op in peace? Because it's Philip Phillips.

[Koji]

Yeah. And like, we. We know Philip's heart and he's like, a good guy.

[Jackie]

We know Philip, like, offline.

[Koji]

Yeah. When I tell you there aren't. There isn't another caring, more generous, talented individual.

[Jackie]

We don't know him, but, like, and

[Koji]

you were right that him making that tik tok about us was definitely like a network endorsed Clue Easter egg.

[Jackie]

But we spoke about Philip Phillips ones before. Remember? It's like part of our.

[Koji]

Yeah. Lore.

[Jackie]

Lore. We spoke about him.

[Koji]

Him.

[Jackie]

And like, his wife told him.

[Koji]

We're always speaking really positive. I feel good about, like, having been in the same room because a lot of times, like, we say things about people on the podcast and then I'm like, near them and I need to die. Like, it's horrible.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

I have no qualms. I have only said amazing, positive things because I believe. And you know, one of the best concerts that I ever went to was John Mayer at the Barclays center. And who opened up for him, Philip Phillips on the release of his debut album, which at the time, I Was obsessed with, like, it couldn't have been a better concert.

[Jackie]

And don't you think Pug Caso, starting with a piece of P is like, Philip Phillips? Because he's.

[Koji]

Yeah. Let's also think about the name Pug. Like, how is he? I guess I don't know a lot about him personally, but art and dogs, like, must be big, like, symbols of his life.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but the P. I think we got to focus on the P. But

[Koji]

I guess a Queen Corgi. Claudia. I never even put that together.

[Jackie]

Snow Cone.

[Koji]

Heidi Montag. And what's the meaning of snow cone? Like, where's the clues?

[Jackie]

Oh, it was in. There was some stuff. Stuff in the article. Well, sometimes they just need to give you a costume, you know, and it's like, you figure it's not that deep.

[Koji]

Yeah, right, right, right, right.

[Jackie]

We'll do the clue package.

[Koji]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

There.

[Koji]

You know what I mean? Like, right. Like, we can do everything right.

[Jackie]

In Snow Cone. In her final appearance, alluded to the loss of her home with her husband.

[Koji]

Oh, right.

[Jackie]

She said the Spice Girls took over the world with girl power and left a legacy for generations to come.

[Koji]

That's because it was Spice Girls night. Oh. And now we can say that I was prepping for Spice Girls night. Little did everyone know I was planning on leaving the show, and they were asking what I wanted to sing and actually of freaking out because, like, while I love the Spice Girls, like, their discography is not, like, singable. You know, it's, like, giving. And then Jackie had the great idea that we should sing Mama because, like, obviously, because she just had a baby, literally. And at the time, I really did just have a baby, and I was, like, practicing in my dressing room. It's kind of like a really hard. It's like, they don't. They're not, like, slay singers, you know? It's like, it was more about, like, choreography, the vibe, the hair, the makeup, the glam, and, like, the girl power of it all. The songs are not, like, slayable ballads. It's, like, hard to vocally slay.

[Jackie]

Do you want to give us a preview of what we missed?

[Koji]

Mama, I love you. Mama, I care. That's, like, the only part of the song that I know. Do you know more?

[Jackie]

Ma, I love you.

[Koji]

Who sings that song?

[Jackie]

I can't. Yeah, can't remember. Anyways, I'm rooting for Pug Casto. Oh, I can come out with my truth.

[Koji]

Yeah, I am, too. Now that I know. Like, it was, like, only right that I lost, like, it's fine. When I thought it was Cord Overstreet, I'm like, really Glee?

[Jackie]

Anthony Ramos, really Hamilton?

[Koji]

Yeah. Right. That I would have been fine with. But, like, it's okay. I'm. I. I'm. I am healed.

[Jackie]

Well, thank goodness for that.

[Koji]

We will keep you abreast weekly.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I love it. It's like, we have a serious stake in this show. And I'm so curious. Snow cone. Like, you had said, like, my Heidi Montag was snow cone. Like, I already.

[Koji]

I knew that I heard her singing at rehearsal.

[Jackie]

It's come for me.

[Koji]

And she has a very distinct voice, and she also has music out. And it was, like, the perfect timing because I remember, like, at the time that. That we all got cast, like, Heidi and Spencer were really having a moment. They got that Hulu show, and, of course, the fires, and, like, everyone was rallying around them. Specifically, her music was researching. So I knew it was her the second I walked into the soundstage. And, like, they don't let you see anyone. But I heard, and I was like, oh, that's literally my. My good friend Heidi.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So I'm excited for. To find out one that, like, we don't have a clue.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

So that's your best singer recap. That's your show. Anything else you want to chitchat about before we go?

[Jackie]

No, I feel like that's it. We have a big day today. Like, classic stuff. Jackson, Claude. We're gonna film something exciting.

[Koji]

Yes, we are. And your vlog is up.

[Jackie]

My field trip was. Zach. So fun. We went to Palm Beach. We saw some fabulous interiors. We just had a great time. We did a little bong.

[Koji]

We took a selfie.

[Jackie]

Don't you feel like Puravita is taking over the world?

[Koji]

Yeah, they're. The ones in New York are, like, so popular.

[Jackie]

Everyone who comes to Florida, they're like that.

[Koji]

Yeah. It's kind of been, like, insane for tourism.

[Jackie]

It's insane, period. It's so good. Like, shout out Puravita. Things you did. Things you did.

[Koji]

That that's where, like, quality matters. The, like, the cream rises because you know how many, like, deli sandwich salad places there are? No one's talking about them on a global level.

[Jackie]

No. No one's. Living in the Vida Pyra.

[Koji]

Live in the pure Ravita. Live in the pure Ravina. All right, so that's, I guess, like, our show. Yes. It's, like, so crazy.

[Jackie]

Such sweets.

[Koji]

It's so crazy when we do an episode under an hour.

[Jackie]

Like, we could keep going just for

[Koji]

the Sake of it. It.

[Jackie]

No, not for the sake.

[Koji]

Because, like, yesterday we accidentally did, like, an hour and 20 minute episode, and it wasn't even. Yeah, right. And so sometimes, like, we come in under an hour and I feel. I feel like I didn't accomplish what I needed to accomplish.

[Jackie]

So let's keep up. Not just for the sake of it.

[Koji]

Yeah. We have to, like, say interesting things.

[Jackie]

Anecdote that you wanted to share.

[Koji]

Let me look through my camera roll. Like, see what I did yesterday?

[Jackie]

That's such a good idea.

[Koji]

I got new mahjong tiles, which I was excited about. We are majing today, and we're going to use my new tiles from Bespoke Mahjong. Wrong.

[Jackie]

We went to Target, as you all know.

[Koji]

Oh, Spritz is launching something, like, kind of major. And Ben got the first samples from me yesterday. He says it's gonna, like, seriously change the beverage industry.

[Jackie]

I actually.

[Koji]

He was, like, walking around, like, drinking it. He was, like, getting drunk in the middle of the day. I said, that's not good for your migraine.

[Jackie]

I tried a sample. Did you know that? Oh, did you see? I spoiled blueberries at Target?

[Koji]

I did see that. You saw. Okay.

[Jackie]

I feel like it's really upsetting. I put them in my cart and they fell out through the hole of, like, the children's seat, and they all fell on the floor. And, like, I had to pick them all up.

[Koji]

That's humiliating.

[Jackie]

And, like, I got, like, lightheaded from, like, being upside down. And it was just.

[Koji]

I'm sorry.

[Jackie]

It was just. It threatened to ruin my trip, but it didn't.

[Koji]

It's good.

[Jackie]

That's all. So, really, I feel like that's all.

[Koji]

Thank you so much for listening to the toast.

[Jackie]

Tomorrow's Friday.

[Koji]

Oh, my God. So underrated.

[Jackie]

And that's a reason to rejoice.

[Koji]

Sachi's coming to town she's coming to town Sachiloo is coming to town Sachiloo is coming. It's town. SA is coming to town and with that, the 2026.

[Jackie]

Do people know that? We know him.

[Koji]

Oh, my God, Jackie. We've told that story 10 times.

[Jackie]

That's, like, seriously my claim to fame.

[Koji]

Yeah, like, we went to middle school with the guy who makes those songs.

[Jackie]

Who. Who does? Whose voice?

[Koji]

And with that, the 2026 season comes to an end. He was in a sky and it's a sky full of stars.

[Jackie]

My first kiss at his bar mitzvah.

[Koji]

Wait, like, the lore. Wait, we've told how many times that we know Sammy Levitt, the guy but you've never told that story. Where was his bar mitzvah?

[Jackie]

At a temple.

[Koji]

Okay.

[Jackie]

And I, I just. That was my first kiss. Cuz he was the oldest, I guess I was very. So he was like the first. He was the first bar mitzvah because he's a little old for the grade.

[Koji]

Yes. You were like kind of slutty, so

[Jackie]

I was very fast.

[Koji]

And who was your first kiss? Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Koji]

Nice boy. Yeah, I just saw him recently.

[Jackie]

Good times.

[Koji]

Yeah. And he like, was holding his like two week old.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah, I saw him too.

[Koji]

Oh yeah, you were there. Nice family. Yeah, nice family.

[Jackie]

Lovely, actually.

[Koji]

But his brother had a peanut allergy in middle school that like, ruined my life.

[Jackie]

He had a peanut allergy too.

[Koji]

Oh, they had. Oh, it's obviously like, yeah, generational. Yeah. Right. And like, it's a picky eater. Like, you don't understand, like the absolute tailspin not to like, victim lame. Because obviously having peanut allergy is probably really tough. But. But like, it ruined my life. Like, I remember being at home having to like test nut butters that like, were permissible and I was like having a breakdown. Like, what do you mean I can't have my peanut butter and jelly? It was like a big thing in our family.

[Jackie]

Did you end with a nut butter?

[Koji]

I don't know where I ended up, but like, it was in a bad spot.

[Jackie]

We found like Nutella, hazelnut. But if it was peanut.

[Koji]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Maybe that's how we like, also remember the marshmallow spread?

[Koji]

Yes, yes. We went heavy on marshmallow.

[Jackie]

We went heavy when. Marshmallow. Marshmallow spread.

[Koji]

It was just like.

[Jackie]

That was before, like almond butter, sunflower butter.

[Koji]

It was a debilitating time.

[Jackie]

I'm sorry, so that's the lore. Still not an hour.

[Koji]

Well, we have to think of the time that we add for the theme song.

[Jackie]

Okay. How long is our theme?

[Koji]

It's about 28 seconds.

[Jackie]

Okay. So why don't you do your goodbye and maybe I'll share a message.

[Koji]

Yeah. But there's also something at the beginning of the show I do want to cut out. So like, we need like another minute to make it.

[Jackie]

Why are we having such a hard time? We usually can't.

[Koji]

I got this. I got this.

[Jackie]

Ready?

[Koji]

Thank you so much for listening to the Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So by the way, if you're watching this on YouTube, like, could you subscribe? We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found. So that's Spotify, itunes, stitcher, public radio, iHeartRadio, Castbox, all the places. You can also now watch our videos videos on Spotify, which is exciting. Cool. So wherever you listen to podcasts, find us. Search the Toast T H e even

[Jackie]

though if you're listening and leave a

[Koji]

five star review because those reviews really help leave a five star review. And if you don't know what to write in that review, here are some recommendations. You could talk about how beautiful we are. You could talk about how stunning we are. You could talk about how smart we are. Beautiful.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Koji]

Hope you guys have an amazing day

[Jackie]

and we will see you tomorrow.

[Koji]

And if we haven't reached the one hour mark, we are just gonna leave like some blank screen like

[Jackie]

oh my gosh, I can't believe in all like the eight year we usually don't like

[Koji]

think we don't think about it.

[Jackie]

Nothing wrong. If the episode was 58 minutes, literally nothing wrong. Now we're just like obsessed with it today. Anyways, we have to go. We are doing a class so Love ya by.

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