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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show.
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The best five things you need to know.
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We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast. And happy Thursday.
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Thursday.
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Thursday. Oh, you're just, like, too busy to say Thursday?
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Yeah, I'm just too busy.
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Okay.
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You want to know something about us today?
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We're wearing coats.
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We're both wearing little jackets.
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It's fucking freezing.
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I mean, it is in the 60s today, which makes you wear a jacket, but there's a difference between, like, wearing a jacket because you're cold and then also, like, it's part of our outfits. And we both, like, incorporated jackets into our outfits today.
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I don't know why you're acting so surprised. Like, we're extremely stylish individuals, but I
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also just meant simpatico, of course.
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That we.
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Nature that I'm remarking on.
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We're kind of like Irish twins, don't you find? No.
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If anything, Olivia and I are closer in age.
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Sorry, I just would like to point out, once again, not supporting my calls. Like, I'm just gonna start pointing it out. Thank you. And I just saw. I saw one.
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What do you want me to say? Like, we're not Irish.
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We are simpatic. Like, we have. We're not just sisters. Like, you can even understand a little about what I was saying. Yeah, we're more than just sisters.
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No, I guess we're Irish twins in the sense that we're not. We weren't born twins, but, like, we act like twins.
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Okay, so you're agreeing with my call.
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That's. I guess that's how I feel about Harry and Charlie. Like, they are being raised like twins.
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Great.
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I have twins.
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And I am supporting your call in
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that, like, I think Charlie really thinks he's a twin.
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I think that, like, I have triplets, you know?
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Yeah, for sure.
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Oh, I have the love of three triplets. Who.
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Like, which three are you referring to?
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Ruby. Ruby. Ruby. Like, like, there's so much love there, Charlie.
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Ruby.
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What about. I might as well, like, have had for how much. Like, I. How much love there is.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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It's another good call.
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That was one of your best.
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Did you finish Secret Lives?
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I did. I was up so late finishing.
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You had to finish.
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We're recording early this morning. This episode's gonna drop before the sun comes up. Thanks, Daylight Savings. Because we're also recording a very fun patreon after this. So it's just a busy, busy, busy. But yes, I had to finish so that, like, we could discuss in full with context and everything. And it will be the first story is like the latest news and our thoughts on slumber recap. Because that's the lead story.
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Did want to update everyone. Our businessman of the week has been updated. And I think it was time for. No offense, Dr. Mike. Love you so much. But. But Connor is doing a lot of great work. It's kind of turning into good husband of the week.
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Supportive partners.
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Yeah. Which is a good thing to celebrate. But that's not what the frame is for. Actually, the thing about Connor is the reason why he's in the frame is, like, because he's not a businessman. He quit his job.
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No, he's the magician of the week.
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Right.
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What's so funny about us? You want to hear what's so funny? It's like we said we wouldn't.
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Do I ever. This is.
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This is it.
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Okay.
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We said we wouldn't do businesswoman of the week because, like, fuck feminism, whatever. But inadvertently, every businessman of the week has been a man who supports a women in business. So we are inadvertently uplifting women in business by celebrating the men who allow them to do it.
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Only the last two, by the way.
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No. But also the inaugural. Paul Salem. It was all about Nicole Kidman.
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Yeah.
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Dr. Mike to support Bridget so that she can be a boss babe. Connor to support Whitney so she could take over the world. Like, even though we said it wasn't about businesswomen, like, okay, let's just course
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correct then, because I don't want it to be about business.
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Ergo, it's about. No, no, we can help ourselves.
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I know. That's how like, it kind of also just feels.
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That's how matriarchal we are.
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It kind of more so just feels like the frame is like celebrating just the person of the moment.
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I think it's celebrating great humans.
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Okay.
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People who use the word humans.
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I hate. Yeah, hate. I need that energy people have for the word moist. Like, let's use it for that.
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I have a couple words that really bother me. Like that.
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Okay. Obviously, any of Clyde's calls.
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No, no, no. Like, obviously empathy.
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Only because it's overused and, like, people don't.
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Yeah, it hurts. You know what's getting up there? Narcissist.
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Yeah.
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There were two things I saw this week. I didn't watch Southern Charmaine, but I saw a teaser clip of, like, everyone calling Craig a narcissist.
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And that's not a good use of the word.
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It is not a good use of the word. Like, we've seen Craig on TV for a very long time. He has his faults.
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Sure. Right.
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Narcissist. Like, we are overusing the word when it's like, really one of the most damning labels you can slap on someone.
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Yeah, but that's like, so the culture to, like, use a label.
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You can be selfish without being a narcissist. I think selfish is self centered, conceited. That's not narcissism.
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No. You know, I think people just say now and they don't like someone. Like, that's not gonna work.
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Someone who's selfish. That's not narcissism.
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Yeah, narcissism is like a true sociopathic label.
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Like a psychotic behavior endangering others around them.
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So all that to say, please welcome our businessman of the week, Connor Levitt. And yes, we know that their last name is Levitt. Like, you don't need to comment that, you guys. Like, we know we sort of like thr on saying it wrong.
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We thrive on pronouncing every letter in a word.
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You think we don't know the last name Levitt?
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Like, what about my friend from middle school, Sammy Lovett? Sammy Levitt, who does the. And with that, the 2026 season comes to an end.
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That is literally our favorite.
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That's our claim to fame.
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That we, like, know him and went to school with him.
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Yeah. And he does it every year. And Ben also knows him separately. Like, he's just sort of in our orbit.
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Correct.
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That's our claim to fame.
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He's sort of like our North Star. It's.
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It always comes back to Sammy Lovett. He was also the oldest one my grade about. You know, like, parents now are more. More parents now, I think are holding back their children from starting kindergarten so that they can, like, have an extra year on their peers, which people didn't do when we were growing up. You only were held back if you, like, if you couldn't cut it. Not preemptive holding back. So I always think about Sammy Levitt because he was the oldest in our grade. And it's like, will I have a Sammy Levitt or will I have a Jax? Because I was the youngest.
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Oh, so this is definitely like a you experience. Like, I didn't think about it at all as a July baby.
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As a. Oh, yeah, you were right. Middle of the pack. Middle. You don't even realize how special that is. You were always focused on your summer birthday. Well, you got to be completely average, which is all you want to be growing up.
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It's so true.
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You don't want to be big, and you don't want to be small.
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Yeah. I never thought about, like, my age in regards to my peers.
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You were never, like, the. The only one who didn't turn 21 yet and couldn't go to the bar.
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Right.
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You weren't the first one who had to, like, go and wait for everyone else, lose her friends.
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Also, I feel like what you're referring to my version of that is like, the Alphabet. Yes.
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That is your version of that.
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Yeah. Like having a last name that started with oh, and like, all my best friends. Astronaut 2 twins. Astronaut Ash North. See, everyone, like, literally everyone was at the beginning, being an O was so hard. There actually was a year that I thought about going by because, like, we do have a. For our middle name, we have our mom's maiden name. So, like, I thought for many years about, like, registering at school. It would have been easy. A lot of people did, like, hyphenated. It's just like a hyphenated galarash. Right. And that would have put me G in, like, the first half of the Alphabet. And, like, I don't know if it was our school in particular or just all schools like, the Alphabet. Like, we lived and died by the Alphabet. Like, splitting up for buses, like a school trip. Like, literally everything. It was really hard for me. Arguably harder than having a summer birthday, I think.
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So based on what I know about you and what you've shared, I think that's a really good call.
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I think Olivia, though, like, that's really good call.
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That the Alphabet is your months of the year.
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Thank you.
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Now I need to point out every time I do well, you'll have a hard time. Claim your good cause.
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You'll have a hard time.
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You only see the negative. You would have just missed that one.
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You wouldn't have said it if any with that. You wouldn't have said it if I didn't point it out. Miss me with that bestie? Stop. I don't have energy to deal with.
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You didn't kill everyone. You're sick.
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I'm sick. And I'm such a hardworking woman that, like, I still came to work today. Like, sometimes when I wake up sick, I'm like, I wish I just went into marketing. You know, sometimes you.
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And sometimes when you wake up sick, like, you could send Ben.
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You could have.
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I could have if Ben. But we actually have a busy morning, and we're doing our Patreon. It's very specific. We do birth charts. They printed them out.
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Yeah, no, like, we have our birth charts. We're getting our birth charts read. And, like, Ben can't do this.
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No, he can't. So, like, you actually couldn't have missed today. But, like.
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But all that to say, like, the virus that's been running through our family has finally hit me. I feel like garbage. And if you could just be supportive of my calls today, or you could just give me that breast. Like, what if we just lactated? Like, we breastfed?
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Well, I was going to say, do you need breast milk?
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Do you have on you that's not in your.
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No, like, I could hand express.
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Yeah, Express into a cup. I'll take a shot.
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Would you really?
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Yeah.
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That's so funny. It's so Charlie of you, because, I
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mean, I drink, like, tequila, and the tequila's disgusting.
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No, like, seriously, breast milk is magic. I gave some to Charlie this morning. Let's see the trans for me.
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All right, let's see, like, after the show, offline.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You don't have to hand express on the show. Live.
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Thanks. Thanks. That's really sweet of you. That's a great call.
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If you wanted to.
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That's a great call that I wanted to.
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I think that could be, like, a good boost in numbers, but obviously you don't have to if you don't want to.
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Thanks so much.
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So, yeah, like, I'm sick and I'm a hero. It's funny how, like, going into work when you're sick, like, before, COVID was, like, a heroic thing. Like, oh, she works so hard. And now it's like, you're evil. You're killing people. Like, the disabled. Yeah, right.
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Like, Granny Killer.
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But it's like, I'm just a business owner. I should be in the frames. Businessman of the week.
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But we said it can't be a businesswoman. And that's.
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There's a lot of things about me that's extremely manly.
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All of our segments is just why it becomes hard not to anoint ourselves Queenie of the Week. Even though, like, so true. That's the thing about Queen of the Week. The unspoken truth is that it's us,
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obviously, and, like, the fact that we don't give it to ourselves every week only further makes us bigger queenies. Agreed. Good call. Thanks. Should we dive in?
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Yeah, let's dive in. I want to talk about slobber. Me too. I can only, like, hold myself up late watching it, and I need that to pay off in some capacity. Okay, without further ado to do to do, here are the fast five stories that you da do need to know.
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Thank you. Turt G1 Welcome
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Dirt G1. You're welcome.
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Dakota Mortensen breaks his silence on the domestic assault investigation with ex Taylor Frankie Paul, leading into our slamming recap. So Dakota speaking out for the first time amid reports this week of a domestic assault investigation involving him in tfp. He said to Entertainment Weekly his number one son, his number one priority here is protecting ever. He.
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Well, at least someone's saying that.
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His rep said he knew there was a possibility it could come out, but he was not going to be the one to proactively do that because he has always wanted a decent relationship with Taylor. It's been really hard to achieve that. He wants to co parent. Well, so having now watched the season.
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Yes. Okay, so now that I finish it up and do you agree that there was like a major lull in the middle of the season? Like, and then the last two episodes just were amazing.
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And for no, actually the lull for me was the reunion content and really like circling the drain on last season and Demi and Marciano and all that jazz. Right.
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Cause to me it was like, wasn't even a cast member this season.
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Yeah. So when I'm now reading this, and I don't know why, up until last night I would have maybe like took what he said at face value. I don't believe a word this man says. Like, I think that he's so much worse than we even realize. I think we were talking yesterday about how he sabotages every premiere for her. I think in the month leading up to the Bachelorette, he did everything he possibly could down to the last minute to ruin this for Taylor.
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When first of all, I cannot believe how close they were. Like, still talking about their relationship. She's literally in the car. She says, I gotta get out there filming.
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Like we're gonna start that. Stepping out of the car, and she's coming off the phone with Dakota. It does not bode well for her being able to have, like, a real lasting relationship. And she is not without fault.
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Like, well, so that's so funny that you said that, because I feel like yesterday I came on here being like, I could actually really see, like, you know, Dakota being the aggressor, the abuser, and, like, all of this is like. And then when I watched those last two episodes, and the way she reacted to the Shania thing on all fronts, blaming everyone. But Dakota slept with him that night. Literally. So mean to Miranda. Like, I really. And you know what? I get confused because I know Layla is, like, 23, and so sometimes I have to chalk up these girls being, like, so immature to the fact that they're immature. Taylor freaking Paul is my age. She's 31. Like, I didn't realize that until they have their ages up the whole time, which I appreciate. At your big ass age, you're still acting like this. Like you're a mom now of three. When she did not get on the plane and her mom and her sister were, like, shuffling all the kids through the airport and they didn't even know Dakota over that night. Like, I lost any last real ounce of respect I had for her. And I don't. Like, she's indefensible.
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Like, she is. No, she is completely wrong. Dakota knows how to get under her skin, but she lets him. And it ain't hard. No, it's not hard, but he does it. And he gets under there and he pokes and he, like, abuses her because he knows how to. And again, like, she picks up the phone.
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Yeah.
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And she. But they also have a child together, so she has to be in his life. But, like, she's just not strong enough enough to say, like, this is enough for me. Go do whatever you want with whoever you want. And I'm not gonna let it affect me.
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And it's actually insane. The one thing Taylor, Frankie, Paul, like, really needs in her life that she does not get from anyone is tough love. When finally. When all the girls go over to her house at the very end and Jesse, like, finally, like, is annoyed with her. Like, no one is mad at her. Like, more people need to be mad at her.
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I think the one time they got mad at her on the show, it really backfired with the CMA's. I think they're scared of her fans.
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Yeah.
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Like, when the CMAs happened, and it is weird that nobody commented anything and it was like a big moment for her, but whatever. And she, like, went on the war path online and then everybody else gets so much hate. And when we all watch that season, we weren't not on Taylor's side. We're like, yeah, why didn't you guys comment? We weren't mad at her for, like, lashing out. And that's also what Jesse says is like, her fans then are like, she's so authentic. She's so real. She's so vulnerable when she's like, like, posting crazy about Shania. She has never really felt the brunt of her actions.
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Like, the consequences. Yeah.
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Not from a public opinion standpoint. Like, even when people got arrested.
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Yeah.
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Even when the swinging thing. All of those things just made her career bigger. And so she doesn't really like, if she had a real cancellation the way, like, well, it's happening now with brands pulling out and stuff.
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Yeah.
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But it's like, did. Did she even do the thing that's happening now?
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I believe that she did.
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Like, she.
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Yeah, I saw such a deeply unwell person. Like, and then also going on the Bachelor is not like a good experience for your mental health. But you know what's so funny? We were saying that, like, it seems like ABC is going to position this as like a healing season and then going to send her off into the Bachelor like a healed individual. Although they ended it saying she might be pregnant and she was talking to Dakota the second she got out of the car. So I kind of feel like ABC might not be, like, totally unhappy with her. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. I think they are embracing the chaos. But it does sort. Not that the Bachelor is like such a sanctity.
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Right.
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It does. Like, the person who is the Bachelor or Bachelorette needs to be completely open, ready and willing to receive.
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They try to, like, keep the integrity of the concept.
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The integrity of the concept. Not someone who has like, one foot out the door might be pregnant. She's obviously not. She's obviously. I mean, she's not pregnant right now.
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Yeah.
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But, yeah, I don't know why they would mess with that format and make the Bachelor like, trash, honestly. But this is the trust when it's always been about eligible people who are really. Yeah. There's always a vill whatnot. But, like, it's really people in earnest who would like to find love and who are ready and aren't, like, gonna run back home.
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B
The whole airport, like, the last couple, like, it was bothering me so much. Like, I was getting annoyed that no one was getting annoyed with her. Even Miranda like, nobody. The way she was talking to everyone, like, nobody talks back to her. Like, no wonder she's a monster. And honestly, now I'm rethinking that scene where her dad was being mean to her. Like, you know, maybe somebody needs to be mean to her.
- [19:50]
A
Like, I've never really had, like, a huge issue with. With the way that her parents try to get through to her.
- [19:55]
B
Oh, and also, like, now that we know so much, like, her dad who, like adopted her and has loved her from every minute, like, love him.
- [20:00]
A
And she's so hung up on, like, the father who doesn't want to be with her, who kicked the mother by the reservoir and was a drug addicted individual. But. And that makes her feel not chosen when, like, this man, Jeremy chose her over and over and over.
- [20:13]
B
Totally.
- [20:14]
A
And so, like, that's the, you know, and the fact that she has to go chase down this. Obviously she doesn't know a ton about her biological dad, but enough to know that her mom had to leave him. He was addicted to drugs.
- [20:23]
B
Oh, the poor mom being dragged Colorado drama.
- [20:26]
A
And the mom, like, won't even talk about these things. So she's like taking her mom on this trip to, like, relive her drama
- [20:32]
B
and yelling at her the whole time.
- [20:33]
A
Chase down the ghost of her father, who's not a good guy.
- [20:36]
B
Yeah.
- [20:36]
A
When you have, like, good people in your life who want to be there for you, but it's like, no, what about my dad? I want to learn more about my dad.
- [20:41]
B
Right.
- [20:42]
A
It's. It's hard to understand that desire.
- [20:45]
B
And the whole time she's being so mean and screaming at her mom, and her mom is like, breaking down on the side of the road.
- [20:50]
A
Yeah.
- [20:51]
B
It was a weird trip.
- [20:52]
A
No. And it's like, you have to, like, really learn about the ins and outs of your mom's abuse in order to, like, feel sorry for her. You can't just, like, take her at face value. The woman who was there for you, who raised you, did everything for you. No, the one who ran away and started a new family and never wanted to see you even when you're 4 years old.
- [21:03]
B
Correct, Correct. And what's so interesting is that, like, obviously Taylor Dakota is like the big thing, but there were so many interesting storylines happening in the last couple of episodes.
- [21:13]
A
Wait, I had just one more thought about Taylor and Dakota. And I know that we're really mad at her. And I am. And when she wasn't getting on the plane and she was sick and like, she's just such a self sabotager But I started to feel really bad for her because if say she didn't go on the Bachelorette and she was like, I'm gonna give this a shot with Dakota or she does the Bachelorette and then comes home and is like with Dakota, she will like never get out of this cycle. It reminded me, you know that scene
- [21:34]
B
in Maid, people say that they're like Lucy and Steven.
- [21:37]
A
No. You know the scene in Maid you remember? Ever watch that show? Of course I did. It was amazing when like she's finally getting out and she gets a job and. And. But then for some reason she has to go back and look at the trailer again. Like they have her. Like she's laying on the couch and sucks her up. Yeah. And that's like what will happen to Taylor if she doesn't find a way to break free. And I feel like she didn't break free from after Bachelorette given like what we know is going on now. And I am seriously, as much as I'm mad at her, worried about her. This will not end well. No, like very deeply concerned. And yes, she's pushed away everyone and that's on her. And she needs to fix the personal relationships in her life. Cause she has good people. She has people who really care about her stepdad. And forget the women because like they are there for her to their own end. You know, they realized it's more profitable to be a supportive friend to Taylor and an enabler than it is to like actually call her out and treat her the way you would treat a friend.
- [22:30]
B
Right.
- [22:32]
A
But she has her family who are there for her. And I just, I am very worried about her.
- [22:38]
B
Okay.
- [22:38]
A
And I'm also like, I'm not convinced that maybe her and Dakota are toxic and they, you know, choke each other and whatever. I don't. I'm not convinced that she hurt her child. And she said that she. Yeah, yeah. I forgot about that because those are really two separate things to me. Yeah.
- [22:52]
B
But I think while maybe like neither of them like put their hands on their child.
- [22:57]
A
Like having these sort of playing this behavior in front of your children is abuse. Yeah.
- [23:01]
B
It's neglect. It's abuse. And the kid is honestly. And that's the other thing about the grandparents ever is always at the grandparents house.
- [23:07]
A
Even the fact that they were flying
- [23:09]
B
with bigger kids whose faces are blurred.
- [23:12]
A
Yeah.
- [23:12]
B
But it is interesting that Taylor co parents decently well. We haven't really ever heard anything about her ex husband like they seem to be. And she took them with her to the Bachelor.
- [23:19]
A
Yeah.
- [23:20]
B
Which Is nice.
- [23:20]
A
Yeah. She had said, like, that's the only way she would do Bachelor if she could see her kids. But I don't know how often they're going to, like, be there. Yeah, I'm sure we'll find out about it on the show.
- [23:29]
B
Mom Talk clearly needs a new leader.
- [23:32]
A
Well, she was, like, always the face of Mom Talk, but never really the one to be, like, the lead administrator, you know? Yeah. I feel, like, figurehead position.
- [23:38]
B
Okay. You know who's, like, I feel vying for it but is not going to get it. It's Layla. And I think it's tough because there are, like, girls from this group that are being selected to get those bigger opportunities, and Layla's not one of them. And her, like, attempt failed on the show, which was really sad to watch. But she's also the one, like, holding a gun to everyone's head about Mom Talk, so she's kind of like, the one who cares about it the most. She's like, well, you can't just, like, use Mom Talk to get all these opportunities and then not come back.
- [24:03]
A
I think Macy should be the leader.
- [24:04]
B
Well, yes, obviously. She's the most sound of mine. She kind of had, like, the most boring season, but, like, that's a good leader.
- [24:08]
A
Yeah, yeah. She can, like, actually lead. She's interested in, like, opportunities, but also the friendships. She has, I think the most friendships in the least matter.
- [24:15]
B
Yeah.
- [24:15]
A
Also, Jesse would be a good leader, so.
- [24:17]
B
Yes, Jesse would be, too. But Jesse, I feel, is destined for lots of personal drama like this. The. The leader needs to be stable, have a stable home life.
- [24:25]
A
I actually think Jesse is very stable. Not her home life, but, like, she. It's funny, like, even when she's in, like, the worst situation, she's, like, smiling. Hey, everybody. How's everybody doing?
- [24:35]
B
Yeah.
- [24:36]
A
Yeah. Like, she really keeps it together and compartmentalizes. I think she would also be a good leader, and she also speaks for everyone, like, even professionals. She's sort of, like, narrating the show and moving it along and telling us about what we're seeing. I think actually she could be the leader.
- [24:51]
B
Her prenup. I really wanted to cry for her. That's awful.
- [24:55]
A
I wonder what the windup is like.
- [24:57]
B
Yeah.
- [24:57]
A
They said maybe.
- [24:58]
B
Well, if they end up getting only. It only matters if they end up getting divorced.
- [25:01]
A
Yeah.
- [25:02]
B
How do you, like, go through all that trouble to have a lawyer and not have a witness?
- [25:05]
A
I have no idea I have such
- [25:07]
B
a pick because she's right. I forget. But, like, we found out last season that, like the first four years of their marriage, he was like a verbally. Verbally abusive, actual evil narcissist.
- [25:14]
A
Yeah.
- [25:14]
B
And now he's obviously acting, cosplaying, like, I'm changed. He's like, that's not who I am anymore. But yeah, she said he's a hard person to be married to, but he would be a harder person to be divorced because he would completely revert to that version of himself.
- [25:24]
A
And like, if he is change, then why isn't it, like, working right if he's changed, if he's changed not just
- [25:31]
B
on camera now as a Zach Affleck. Stan, was last night's episode hard for you to watch?
- [25:34]
A
It was hard for me to watch because obviously the Afflecks are in the wrong.
- [25:38]
B
Although I will say, like, I don't really clown on Zach for defending his wife. He doesn't know his wife is dead on balls. Fudge. Wrong.
- [25:46]
A
Even if your wife is wrong, like, you go hard, wrong wife, except you
- [25:49]
B
don't show up in place of your wife to argue with a woman.
- [25:52]
A
You do not.
- [25:52]
B
And.
- [25:53]
A
But that's also on Jen, because beyond women know that obviously more. Even more so than men.
- [25:59]
B
Yeah.
- [25:59]
A
And that's never going to look at. I don't care if he was in the right even. That's never going to be a. A fight that we want to see or a fair fight.
- [26:07]
B
I've been, like, waiting to see their argument while they were in glam. And honestly, it didn't disappoint. It was really crazy. And I feel like a lot of the women, but mostly. And I was appreciative that a couple of girls had had Whitney's back. But, like, Jen just thinks that Whitney is this, like, insanely manipulative, manipulative, strategic, calculated person. Whereas, like, she couldn't even control her emotions. She was so upset in that scene. I felt like I don't know where Jen is getting this impression. And then she reiterated that to Zach and Zach was like, well, were you even sad that she left? Like, using Internet drama.
- [26:35]
A
Yeah.
- [26:35]
B
To like.
- [26:36]
A
Oh, yeah. And then Zach, like, insinuating that. Why are the headlines saying this? Why are people saying this? Like, because it's true. Which is just so false and rude. And you also have to remember all the hate that Whitney was getting.
- [26:45]
B
Yeah.
- [26:45]
A
Dancing with the Stars. So even though it's, like, going well for her, she is having a hard time. They're both having a hard time in a different way.
- [26:52]
B
And I appreciate it. I think it was Jesse in her confessionals who said, and she was the only person who brought it up. And you can't really talk about Jen and Whitney on Dancing with the Stars without really talking about how I. I think a lot of what's fueling Jen to just, like, dislike Whitney is that Whitney is succeeding on, like, another level, and Jen was not, like, the competition element of it all, and it was unfair. You know, they weren't on the same level. And she's, you know, eight weeks postpartum. Like, of course it's absurd, but, like, it's hard to see someone who you're, like, on the same level with, like, she was gonna win, you know, and she. Not only did she not win, she got even better. It's better that she didn't win because she got the call her daddy moment. She got the big dance, then she got Broadway. Like, it was perfect.
- [27:28]
A
Like. Like, well, it seems like she got Broadway regardless of what happened next. I thought, like, it was a sort of justice for having been eliminated early. But, no, she was always on her way because she was doing such an amazing job. So it's like the competition was going better for Whitney, but public opinion was not on her side. Jen wasn't, like, doing amazing in the competition, but people, like, were feeling for her, feeling for her voting.
- [27:49]
B
And then she, like, threw, like, Whitney under the bus on that live. And I think it made things a lot worse for Whitney.
- [27:54]
A
Whitney, when she is seriously going through it, the fact that you would add to that. I don't care if that's your friend or not. That's a human being.
- [28:00]
B
Yeah.
- [28:01]
A
And that is not the right thing to do.
- [28:03]
B
Jen just looked like such a loser because she really did not have one legitimate claim against Whitney. It seemed like Whitney had been texting her when she was sick, saying hi in the studio, and she couldn't even congratulate her. And then when she. It's a classic, like, loser behavior. When, like, Whitney very calmly was, like, you know, it upset me that you didn't, like, congratulate me on Chicago. You've known for a week. And not only did she deny it, she then started attacking I'm the victim, and we don't have a genuine friendship. Like, it was such a loser.
- [28:23]
A
You know, I also feel like. Like, I feel like maybe Jen didn't realize, like, how big of a deal
- [28:28]
B
it was Chicago because she thought it was in Chicago.
- [28:30]
A
She didn't really, like, know what it
- [28:31]
B
was, but she has big dreams of being on like, a performer, and she doesn't even know that Broadway show Chicago's in New York.
- [28:36]
A
And so she made the fight about, like, the other issues she has with Whitney. But, like, I feel like it's not that she was, like, snubbing her by not congratulating her. Like, she just didn't know it was. I guess they always celebrate everyone's little everything. Oh, you got this brand deal.
- [28:47]
B
Like, I'm sorry, you can't convince me that everything going on between Jenna Whitney is. I'm sorry. Like, it's just jealousy.
- [28:53]
A
Well, that's amongst.
- [28:54]
B
And it fuels everything.
- [28:55]
A
And the obsession with her being friends with Demi and that also here, that's
- [28:59]
B
the only thing she has to cling to. She doesn't have a real argument against Whitney.
- [29:02]
A
No. And so she's mad that Whitney came back for Dancing with the Stars and is using all these friendshipists as transactional. But it also seems like Whitney is successfully rebuilding her friendships. And, Jenny, there is an element of transaction to all of these friendships. Like, every single one. None of them are completely pure. Except maybe like, Macy and Michaela. Everyone else, like, we have a friendship. We have a bond, but this is also a working relationship. So the idea that it's like, it's gonna be rainbows and flowers and you can't want something in exchange for something else, like, is very naive and stupid. Like, this is a business. And if Whitney comes back for Dancing with the Stars, so be it. At least she was upfront about it. And she happened to also, in earnest, repair some of her friendships. And I think that's what makes Jen mad is, like, people have forgiven her and Jen hasn't, because Jen's the one suffering of Dancing with the Stars. Like, it should have been just Jen on Dancing with the Stars. If Jen.
- [29:53]
B
Right.
- [29:53]
A
If it were up to Jen, because Whitney's not on Mom Talk.
- [29:55]
B
Right? So then this person, like, came back, got Dancing with the Stars and, like,
- [29:58]
A
beat you, and they, like, cheated their way back. They cheated their way to Dance with the Stars because they just came back forth.
- [30:03]
B
Right.
- [30:03]
A
Actually on a show. But I'm not on Jen's side at all yet. Zach should not have gone in place of Whitney. Jen should never have let him. That was never, ever, ever never going to look good look for them.
- [30:17]
B
And now when we talk about, like, should Whitney go back? Like, she's just, like, light years ahead of all the women in just maturity and her marriage is in a good place. Nobody else's is. Like, I think. Yeah, I actually think now, like, having watched a whole season, like, do not go.
- [30:30]
A
The way that I feel now is that this show is like a toilet
- [30:34]
B
and you don't want to get flushed down.
- [30:35]
A
A little bit of a curse.
- [30:37]
B
Yeah. And, like, Whitney's managed to escape it. And you know what? Fine. Let's say the show is still really big. Like, at least Whitney will leave, like, with her marriage, her family intact, and, like, opportunities outside of it. Like, that was. It was a really upsetting to watch the whole Jitney, Whitney and Jen thing. And when they were fighting in front of all the women. I know it's, like, not the type of show where people can, like, step in, but it was so wrong what was happening there. Like, when he was getting so upset, Like, I felt so bad for her.
- [31:00]
A
They're such cheap, all these girls. They didn't.
- [31:01]
B
They're sheep.
- [31:02]
A
They didn't know what the right side
- [31:04]
B
was, so they didn't take it.
- [31:05]
A
They didn't know how they felt about the situation, who's right and who's wrong. So they didn't stand up for anyone because no one except Miranda.
- [31:10]
B
I do feel as though Miranda has a moral compass.
- [31:13]
A
Yeah.
- [31:14]
B
And she barely said anything, but she, like, took Whitney aside for a second and then she was the one.
- [31:17]
A
She, like what she claimed. The claim. But, yeah, they didn't know. They don't know how the fans are going to feel about that fight, so they're just going to stay out of it.
- [31:25]
B
Agreed.
- [31:26]
A
There's not a unanimous consensus.
- [31:28]
B
I was really willing, like, when I thought about this season, like, to give Jen so much grace, but any goodwill, I feel like it was so gone. Like, that was really upsetting to watch, like, the live, like, everything. It was so meaningful.
- [31:39]
A
Nobody felt worse for Jen on Dancing with the Stars than I did. I actually didn't even vote for her when the night she got eliminated because I thought she wanted to leave that tower unhappy. She. She seemed. And it must be really hard to get that opportunity when you're eight months post. Eight weeks postpartum, and then, like, your
- [31:57]
B
friend is also doing it at, like, the peak of her physical fitness.
- [32:00]
A
But, like, it's another lesson in, like, you do not need to say yes. Yes.
- [32:03]
B
To every opportunity. Yeah.
- [32:04]
A
Like, these women are running themselves into the ground.
- [32:07]
B
Jen should have said no, and I'm sure if she had, like, worked hard enough, she could have gotten it this year.
- [32:13]
A
Yeah, of course we're gonna probably have. Why wouldn't we have more house? Like, and I'm sure there will be a wife on Dancing with the Stars this year. I wonder who it will be. It could be anyone.
- [32:24]
B
Yeah.
- [32:25]
A
Maybe Layla. Maybe Jesse, Whoever wants it, it's theirs for the take.
- [32:29]
B
And I'm hesitant to bring this up because I know it's a personal trigger of yours, but let's talk about Michaela and Jace.
- [32:35]
A
Thank you so much. I almost forgot. I almost.
- [32:37]
B
So they separated in one of the. Why was she the one who laughed?
- [32:40]
A
I almost forgot that the villain of the season is the person who said three words is Jace. Yeah. We are not giving this man enough hate. Enough hate for what he's done. Torturing his wife who just had a baby to be more intimate with him. Not only did she just have a baby, her skin issues are flaring up again. So she's like trying to get this under control. I can imagine stress would be like the worst thing for that. She's also the breadwinner in the family. Can't take a minute off. And then he's there like, what about me?
- [33:09]
B
I'm gonna have a kiss. So.
- [33:10]
A
And their connection.
- [33:12]
B
Get out of here, you fucking gross.
- [33:15]
A
Connection. To the point that they feel they need to separate. When you have like a two month old little baby.
- [33:19]
B
When they're having the conversation about separating, like, it's literally like the newborn on the bed. I was so shook. Like, he was like, I feel like they were both like, sad because, like, we love each other so much. And he was like, I just feel confident, like, once we get this issue fixed, we can get back together. And she was like, I just don't think it's fixable. Like, that's what she said.
- [33:40]
A
The thing is, maybe it's not fixable. Maybe it will be the thing that
- [33:42]
B
maybe it's not fixable right now, though.
- [33:43]
A
Like, if it is fixable ever, it's not right now. And maybe down the road they'll see that they can't come together on this, but like, to be dealing with it and really put it on the time clock. When she has a newborn baby, she's working her tail off and she's having health issues. You're a disgusting human. To make her separate, to have lose.
- [34:03]
B
And she has to leave the house.
- [34:04]
A
And why the fuck.
- [34:06]
B
What the fuck was that?
- [34:06]
A
Leaving the house.
- [34:07]
B
And they have other kids, right?
- [34:08]
A
Besides I think they have one other one or two.
- [34:10]
B
With Jake Chase. Oh yeah, she did. She brought her grown kid to Jesse's house. That was cute. When they all had the meeting at Jesse's houses.
- [34:17]
A
They're like the toy rooms.
- [34:18]
B
Yeah, it was so cute.
- [34:19]
A
It's so cute. They all have.
- [34:20]
B
They do have other kids.
- [34:21]
A
They have. They have four together. And you're separate. You're encouraging.
- [34:26]
B
And why didn't Chase leave?
- [34:27]
A
I think he's so disgusting. Worse than Jordan?
- [34:30]
B
No.
- [34:31]
A
Not even. Jordan made Jesse leave the house when she had a baby.
- [34:34]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [34:35]
A
I cannot understand.
- [34:37]
B
It was really hard to watch that
- [34:39]
A
you think now's the time to really make the critical decision of saying what, you're gonna divorce with a two month old.
- [34:47]
B
Yeah.
- [34:48]
A
After having four children. Like, divorce if you want. If you're gonna divorce and it's not gonna be able to work out, like, fine. But can't you, like, sort of kick the can down the road a little bit and just let this.
- [34:57]
B
Nobody's intimacy is, like, thriving too much.
- [34:59]
A
Let this woman recover and heal.
- [35:01]
B
Right.
- [35:02]
A
And stress is not good for her health condition.
- [35:04]
B
Correct.
- [35:05]
A
And it's like, it seems like he really could only, you know, lay it on his pregnant wife, and now he feels like she had the baby. It's back to let's talk about these intimacy issues.
- [35:14]
B
Well, I saw on Tick Tock that some of her health issues have cleared a little bit because it turns out that they were living with mold. Yeah.
- [35:23]
A
That's very real.
- [35:25]
B
We. We know.
- [35:26]
A
Living with the stress of a demon.
- [35:28]
B
Yeah. Right?
- [35:31]
A
I could not believe what I was watching.
- [35:32]
B
So funny.
- [35:33]
A
I could not believe what I was watching. Like, separating as a two month old is, like, Taylor and Dakota, like, too toxic to be around with the baby. But, like, you have four kids and now you're not gonna be together and, like, support your family.
- [35:46]
B
Yeah.
- [35:47]
A
Because you didn't get a kiss.
- [35:48]
B
The kiss. He said it's not even sex up. Michaela was like, it's not even the sex room. It's the kisses. But, like, kissing is her trigger. I think it has to do with her childhood sexual trauma.
- [35:56]
A
Okay, so it's not.
- [35:57]
B
He just wants. And I'm so.
- [35:58]
A
And the fact that all of this steps, I'm.
- [36:00]
B
Because she's being like, a bitch. Right. Because she has, like, so deeply undramatized. Yeah.
- [36:04]
A
He is disgusting.
- [36:06]
B
And then, like, when Macy's picking her up and, like, they. She's like, I'll give you guys a moment. And they kiss. You could just tell, like, she could not get away from him fast enough.
- [36:13]
A
And he's in heaven.
- [36:14]
B
He's such a freak.
- [36:16]
A
I know. It made me so mad. Like, there's a time and a place for hard conversations, for fights, for making big decisions. It is not when you've just had a baby. Also when you've had four, like, it's
- [36:29]
B
not like, like, you sort of new to You? Yes. The thing with Michaela and Chase also is that, like, one of the weird things about the relationship is that when they met and got pregnant, he was 21 and she was 16. So, like, it's possible that, like, he was under the impression when you, like, you know, impregnate a 16 year old, like, you're the one in charge. But Michaela was like. Like, no. You know, like, I think he thought maybe, like, he would be the one in control of the dynamic, especially when it comes to sex, which is so important to him. And maybe it's just not going down the way he envisioned when he, you know, married a 16 year old.
- [36:59]
A
Right. Maybe people change.
- [37:01]
B
He didn't realize, like, the 16 year old he chose was, like, you know, had a big, good head on her shoulders.
- [37:05]
A
Yeah, no, she really does because she's also 25.
- [37:08]
B
Yeah. And she's more mature than Taylor. Than half of them. Taylor's the oldest one. Is that insane or. No? Maybe Jesse is, but Jesse's very mature. Whitney.
- [37:18]
A
Whitney. When he looks so good. Totally. Like, right? Like, she has to. She's rock solid.
- [37:23]
B
She has to escape. Honestly, the show. Yeah.
- [37:27]
A
Yeah. No, she's so sound of mind. It's really a strange dichotomy to watch those who are and those who are not. Yeah.
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B
She. She was like, I feel crazy. And you, it's like, you. You are crazy because you're, like, around people.
- [37:38]
A
Crazy people.
- [37:39]
B
Yes. You're the only sane individual in a circus.
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A
I just want to say I loved that they had like a whole shoot day around the title promo like, that we saw that day. And also we got an explanation for why they're in two separate looks. Like it's meant to be like a cocoon. And then they're like, oh, that's funny. They really look like Butterfly, like, so stupid. And what's crazy was there was a lot of intent behind it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. Very thoughtful. And it looked like it just was cobbled together.
- [38:04]
B
Yeah. I will miss my girls. Oh, there's the reunion. Right. Do we know anything like, who's hosting it?
- [38:10]
A
No, but we also have Bachelorette next week.
- [38:12]
B
Oh, God. I'm gonna obviously watch, cuz, like, I'm in it, but I don't foresee myself, like, sticking with it.
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A
But. And I do need more clarity on the investigation situation. So that's Salamu recap. Who's your villain of the season
- [38:26]
B
after last night? It's Jenna Fleck. It was. It was upsetting me, like, deeply.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Maybe that's because I related To Whitney. Like, I feel like I'm a really sound of mind individual. Like, and I was just like, it was arguing with a crazy person.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I also related to Whitney that, like, if I'm in an argument with someone and it's someone I care about, like, I cry. And it's like, I hate that. Like, I just. I can't even talk without crying and
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A
having to be like, I want to be your friend.
- [38:47]
B
It's pathetic. Like, pathetic.
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A
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Some diz news. We're getting more info about the Hannah Montana anniversary special. Miley says that Selener will appear in special.
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B
I feel like a lot of stuff is coming out, like stories, and I'm trying not to read them. Like, I would like to be surprised.
- [39:04]
A
Yeah, I agree. A lot of, like, quotes of, like, things that she said.
- [39:07]
B
Like, things about Jackson, Jason Earl's, like,
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A
I didn't mean to kill Hannah.
- [39:10]
B
Right. Right. And apparently, like, Hannah was supposed to be like, take her wig off in the third episode and then, like, you change the premise. Like, I don't want to know. Can I just watch a fucking special?
- [39:20]
A
Just drop now? Like, I'm ready right now and I'm scared I'm gonna be over it in a week.
- [39:24]
B
No, not over it, but, like, can nothing be a surprise?
- [39:26]
A
No, but, like, sometimes if it doesn't happen, you know, when things are too far out.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Then I forget and I move on. Like, I don't know if I can wait a week. Like, there's a lot going on.
- [39:34]
B
Yeah.
- [39:34]
A
It's so much TV on right now. I didn't get to watch a Southern charm reunion last night, which I will do. Summer House. Rehoba.
- [39:43]
B
Tonight, Real Housewives in Miami has been put on.
- [39:45]
A
That is a story if you want to just segue to the fact that TV real houses in Miami haven't been put on pause. Bravo put it on pause. I mean, the low rating.
- [39:52]
B
So it's just a bad call.
- [39:54]
A
Like, it's the lowest rated show in of Housewives.
- [39:57]
B
Okay. But don't you feel like they get like, no promo or anything? Like, I was actually watching a tick tock today that like, you know, Bravo pushes the new. I guess people on the Internet are calling it phony. The new Roni. They push it so hard, they put it on after Beverly Hills. Like, whatever. It gets on after Beverly Hills is the highest rated housewives franchise. So whatever airs after it, you get like, kind of sloppy seconds.
- [40:15]
A
Yes.
- [40:16]
B
So it's a way of like promoting Give it to Miami. Like, they, like, say what you want about Miami. Okay, maybe it's not highly rated, but, like, it's a very good show. The housewives are professional housewives. They are highly engaged. They have wealth, they have drama. Like, it has everything. There's no reason.
- [40:27]
A
Yeah.
- [40:27]
B
It should be performing so poorly. I don't feel like the network properly. Like, I never see those women on Watch Happens Live. It was like a peacock original. Like, why don't you give it the actual treatment that you're giving? Like these shitty ass franchises.
- [40:36]
A
Yeah.
- [40:37]
B
Real Housewives of New York. Like. Like, I don't know. I feel like this is a bad call.
- [40:39]
A
And I also. I just feel like they think they can do whatever they want with Miami and they sort of like, do they set principle? Like, first they canceled it, then they brought it back, then they made it a peacock regional. Like, they're always the trailblazers. Miami, for, like, what experiments that they want to run with housewives.
- [40:54]
B
And I'm sorry. Every era of Miami Housewives, no matter what, like, the ratings are. It's always good. I'm sorry. The women are always wealthy. They are so desperate to make the show work. Like, they're insane. I always pop in randomly and I'm sorry. It's always good. Good.
- [41:05]
A
Yeah.
- [41:06]
B
You cannot say that about other franchises. So, like, if it's failing, it's not on the women, it's not on the franchise. It's on the network.
- [41:11]
A
Yeah.
- [41:11]
B
Like, when you try. Why don't you, like, support the women at all? I never see them on podcasts. Like, I never see anything.
- [41:16]
A
I also just think Miami as a city is just like, a good city to have housewives. So if it's low ratings or it's not working, like, switch something up.
- [41:23]
B
Yeah.
- [41:24]
A
To pause it when we watch. Like, we have all these other, like,
- [41:26]
B
I mean, the new Vanderpump rules. Like, yeah, they're always like, the commercials. They're on the buses. Like, I haven't seen one ad ever.
- [41:33]
A
I didn't even. Is Rahom even airing right now?
- [41:36]
B
I don't know. And they had a new woman, Stephanie. Like, they had good stuff going on.
- [41:39]
A
I watched last season. I didn't watch the reunions, but, like, I'm fine with that. And then. Was there a new season?
- [41:43]
B
No.
- [41:44]
A
So I'm caught up.
- [41:45]
B
Yeah, you are.
- [41:46]
A
Except for the reunions, but, like, that's fine.
- [41:48]
B
I think this is, like, such a bad call.
- [41:50]
A
So it's a bad call, not a good call.
- [41:52]
B
Yeah, I'm kind of. I'm cosplaying.
- [41:54]
A
You.
- [41:54]
B
This is a bad call.
- [41:55]
A
Well, I agree with your call that it's a bad call. So I'm easy for you to do that it's easy of your call. Okay, are you ready for our next story which is some more TV news.
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Thank you, Tatter Spoon.
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You're welcome. What's the next story?
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A
What's the next right Cheddar Spoon. Any live update? Brooks Nader, Livy Dunn and more stars make their red swimsuit debuts on the set of Baywatch. So the first pictures of drawers watch from Baywatch reboot. The turnaround time is just.
- [45:24]
B
It's so true.
- [45:26]
A
Let's get that energy for the Nightingale, shall we?
- [45:28]
B
It's so true.
- [45:30]
A
Brooks Nader. Shay Mitchell. Libby Dunn. Brooks Nader. Libby Dunn. Noah, everyone's here.
- [45:37]
B
Noah Beck. Oh, let me see. No, I didn't see him.
- [45:40]
A
Oh, I saw him in a group photo. Oh, who's that guy? Oh, that's Stephen Amell. Oh, my God. Brooks's new boyfriend for sure.
- [45:46]
B
Oh, he's handsome.
- [45:47]
A
Oh, my gosh. I so. Oh, there's Noah.
- [45:49]
B
I just. I maintain that this show is going to be bad, but I'm really excited about these photos.
- [45:55]
A
Yeah, they look good.
- [45:56]
B
They look great. Like, very authentic.
- [45:58]
A
Yeah. This would be a great, like, magazine cover and, like, let's call it a day.
- [46:02]
B
Yeah.
- [46:03]
A
But I'm happy for everyone involved. They seem to be having fun.
- [46:06]
B
When we were talking about Sports Illustrated swim yesterday, like, obviously Brooks for the COVID we didn't like all four of the sisters.
- [46:12]
A
Oh, that would. A four sisters, one cover. Four sisters would be so I. Innovative, so iconic. But I do think that Whoopi Goldberg would be more iconic. Who did I say?
- [46:21]
B
Oh, an Olympian. I don't like my answer.
- [46:22]
A
Oh, no, someone had a good one. Utah Utiliardom. You just give it to you. I do have four covers. Whoopi Goldberg, Utah Leardom, and who's our fourth?
- [46:37]
B
Jackie O, please. No, like, actually, what is the amount that they would have to pay you?
- [46:41]
A
I don't even want to have this conversation. Okay. Because it's like, it's.
- [46:44]
B
Because it's inconsistent. Like, it's not evident.
- [46:45]
A
It's like, it's like talking about, like, when your dreams, like. Objection. Relevance.
- [46:51]
B
I would probably say, like, $10 million minimum for you.
- [46:54]
A
Okay. I. I think that, you know, they could take it or leave it. So anyways, Baywatch is happening, guys, and they're looking good.
- [47:03]
B
Like, it looks good. Yeah. But, like, the show's not gonna be good. I just want everyone to know that.
- [47:07]
A
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
- [47:08]
B
I am. Let me tell you, a fading doing the show. Sick is not.
- [47:11]
A
This show is. This story's gonna bring you back up. It's my fate.
- [47:14]
B
It's Thursday.
- [47:14]
A
I don't know if you realized. Mas singer reveals.
- [47:16]
B
Oh, I actually. I usually keep up every week. I didn't. I didn't see this week.
- [47:22]
A
Two people were revealed.
- [47:23]
B
Oh, really?
- [47:24]
A
14 karat carrot.
- [47:25]
B
Oh, was it Judge Mathis?
- [47:27]
A
Yes.
- [47:27]
B
Okay.
- [47:27]
A
How do you know that?
- [47:28]
B
I read the Reddit. Like, I was on this show. What do you guys want? Like, you think I'm gonna go quietly?
- [47:32]
A
Know everyone who's on?
- [47:33]
B
Yeah.
- [47:33]
A
Okay. Judge Mathis was the carrot. Carrot slay.
- [47:37]
B
Like, not me and a judge.
- [47:38]
A
And Stingway was revealed as Evan Ross, son of Diana Ross and husband of Ashlee Simpson.
- [47:43]
B
So now I'm convinced Galaxy Girl is even more so. Ashley Simpson that's cute.
- [47:46]
A
So I think Galaxy Girl is Bridget Mendler, but we shall see. And then say this yesterday.
- [47:52]
B
You're gonna die. Do you know that Ben had Spencer Pratt on the Good Guys when he came home? He was like, spencer Pratt was amazing. And I'm like, well, did you talk about Matt Singer? He was like, why would we have talked about Matt Singer? I'm like, how you do the. Do you do a podcast? Like, you know, nothing? Like, he was like, was he on it? I'm like, his wife was on my season.
- [48:09]
A
Like, oh, my God. You need to talk about it offline with Sensor. Yeah.
- [48:12]
B
Yeah. You guys doing.
- [48:14]
A
You guys need a Massinger support group?
- [48:16]
B
Do we ever, like, we need a therapist in there too.
- [48:19]
A
So now here's who's left. Pangolin. Who do people say that is?
- [48:23]
B
I think they say it's Normani.
- [48:26]
A
No, Crane.
- [48:27]
B
Oh, yeah. I need to. I need to look at the pictures. I don't know. Like, who? Pangolin.
- [48:31]
A
So Pangolin, Galaxy Girl, Cat Witch, Pug
- [48:34]
B
Cat, which we know is Kylie Cantrell. She's like, they. For the first season ever, they did, like, somebody who we know.
- [48:40]
A
And, like, a secretary.
- [48:41]
B
Yes, exactly. And they document the whole process, like
- [48:43]
A
on TikTok, Cat, Witch, Pugcasso. And Crane.
- [48:48]
B
And Crane.
- [48:49]
A
So we just don't know who Pangolin is.
- [48:51]
B
Okay, let me just look at the costume.
- [48:52]
A
Yeah, look at the costume and then let us know what your Redditor said. There's a lot of people left still. It's crazy that you, like, would have still been there, but not really because it filmed a while ago.
- [49:03]
B
I've never seen this one.
- [49:04]
A
Let me see.
- [49:08]
B
Oh, people think it's Rachel Platten obsessed.
- [49:10]
A
Oh, that's good. Maybe she'll win. I think Pug Casa will win if.
- [49:15]
B
If they know what's good.
- [49:16]
A
If they know what's good. So that's your Masked Singer update. And then I just want to say a couple more things about slammu, which is that. That a wife will go on Dancing with the Stars, because why wouldn't they? A wife should go on Traders. Like, I feel like. I think there's, like, no more opportunities because modeling didn't work out. But, like, there's.
- [49:32]
B
There's opportunity and, like, no offense. Why do you want to be a model? Like, modeling for a lot of people is, like, a means, but, like, you're already wealthy and famous. Like, what the hell do you want to model for? Like, live in New York?
- [49:44]
A
I don't know. But she also. If she does want a Model. Like, for real. She has to get a dramatic haircut.
- [49:49]
B
Absolutely.
- [49:50]
A
I was actually thinking about. Did you see Miranda's haircut yet?
- [49:52]
B
No.
- [49:53]
A
She looks unbelievable. New a couple days ago. She got a bob. She looks insane.
- [50:00]
B
She's very pretty.
- [50:01]
A
She's. She's beautiful.
- [50:02]
B
Wait, what's her last name?
- [50:04]
A
M. Miranda Hope. Now she goes by.
- [50:06]
B
Oh, right, right, right. Oh, I don't really like it.
- [50:12]
A
What. What picture are you looking at?
- [50:14]
B
A Tik Tok.
- [50:15]
A
Okay, go to a different.
- [50:15]
B
I'm seeing it in action.
- [50:17]
A
Okay. But. Oh, actually, maybe she's just learning the weathering heights. It's. Maybe she's learning how to style. It ages her. She looks amazing. She looks mature.
- [50:24]
B
Okay, so her and Whitney comment on each other's photos. Like, they're so good. I guess that's good. Yeah. Like, let's see who comments on Whitney stuff even though they all comment on everyone's stuff.
- [50:32]
A
Yeah. Remember they said they're so scared not to.
- [50:34]
B
Yeah.
- [50:34]
A
Which was just so funny. I can't, like, sometimes I just, like, can't even think of what to comment. Like, I want to be supportive, but I'm like, what do I say? Here, go.
- [50:42]
B
They're gay comments on her stuff.
- [50:44]
A
Go, girl.
- [50:44]
B
Michaela. Demi. I really. I think that her and Michaela, like, I. I like their friendship.
- [50:51]
A
I think to me, should go on Mass Singer. I think amazing comments. I think Jesse should go on Traders. Jesse should go on Traders. And I think, like, I need.
- [51:02]
B
I need Jesse to have her moment. Like, I need her to get divorced first and, like, I need her to, like, then have her, like, big moment.
- [51:08]
A
Yeah, well, it seems like people get a moment after divorce that so do Jesse. Next. Jesse next.
- [51:17]
B
Okay, listen, I love you. We have to wrap this up.
- [51:18]
A
I'm like, seriously, you don't want to think of more. More opportunities for the girls?
- [51:22]
B
Let's talk about tomorrow, okay?
- [51:23]
A
Okay.
- [51:24]
B
And you wrap up and sleep on it.
- [51:26]
A
Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast. The best show on earth. We love you dearly and we will see you tomorrow. Love you by.
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