I Love Your Cloud, Knicks: Tuesday, June 9th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – "I Love Your Cloud, Knicks"

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and hilarious episode, Jackie and Claudia dive deep into the emotional aftermath of the recent Knicks playoff loss, sharing personal stories about ticket hunting, the culture surrounding big New York sporting events, and the sting of defeat. Alongside detailed Knicks talk, the duo covers the latest in celebrity breakups (notably Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater), a juicy Love Island scandal, Tom Brady’s unexpectedly named new beverage, and more. The show is jam-packed with their signature banter, pop culture hot takes, and relatable advice for their audience.

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Key Discussion Points & Memorable Moments

The Knicks Playoff Saga: Tickets, Celebrities, & Defeat

• Jackie’s Ticket Hunt (00:25–01:53):

  • Jackie recounts her failed attempt to buy Knicks playoff tickets as a Father’s Day surprise for her husband Ben, lamenting the impossibility of affording five-figure ticket prices:
    • “Your cardboard. And it’s like, you’re just cosplaying cardboard because you’re over here considering spending five figures.” (01:26)
  • She shares frustration about online pressure for “paid transparency,” firmly stating:
    • “No, bitch, I fucking don't…Nunya, that’s how much money I make. Nunya.” (00:53)

• Viewing Party with NYC Elite (02:08–02:38):

  • The sisters attended a swanky viewing party, rubbing elbows with former mayor Eric Adams (“not look up from his phone for one second”) and lamenting his absence from the actual game.
  • Remark on citywide street closures due to Trump’s presence at the game, making logistics “a nightmare.” (03:21)
  • Both express exhaustion with late game start times: “Excuse me, I'm a mother and a business owner. Like, it's not cool.” (03:47)

• Anthem Moment (04:09–04:45):

  • Both gushed about Avery Wilson’s stunning National Anthem performance, initially doubting the niche Broadway pick but being “never been more wrong…that’s up there with the greats.” (04:26, Jackie)

• Game Recap & Ref Frustration (05:02–06:44):

  • Both watched the tense game, with Jackie describing Ben and his friends as “acting like they were in the arena” and unpacking controversial officiating:
    • “The refs genuinely giving def. Dumb and blind.” (06:04)
    • “I hate to be like, a ref complainer because it is giving sore loser…But the odds were stacked against us.” (06:22)

• Knicks Series Analysis & Ticket Economics (06:49–15:40):

  • Jackie and Claudia debate the Knicks’ chances, the scheduling of home and away games, and the huge emotional and financial stakes for fans:
    • “…People spent, like, literally. I think the minimum get was, like, probably an average of $6,000 a ticket. And we lost.” (11:40)
  • Discussion on the sheer wealth of NYC: “I didn't realize, like, how many rich people lived here or, like, were Knicks fans.” (12:16)
  • Jackie insists that if she attends, she’ll pay for a “good seat”—otherwise, prefers TV: “If my seat in the arena is like so bad that I can’t see shit…that’s not worth it to me.” (14:49)

• Aftermath & City’s Mood (10:05–13:16):

  • Jackie reflects on the city’s “deflated energy” after the loss:
    • “Well, we're not in the cloud anymore, according to Ben and the run some boys.” (11:40)
    • On spending for tickets: “So yeah, that's a lot of pressure, too. Like, people who, like, are lifelong Knicks fans, people who saved up for this, I understand, like, why they buckled under the pressure.” (12:51)

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Pop Culture Headlines: Celebrity & Love Island Drama

1. Ariana Grande & Ethan Slater Split (25:45–31:13)

• The sisters discuss the end of Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater’s relationship, expressing distaste for how the relationship began:
  • “You rip this man from his wife and newborn just to, like, not even be with him three years later, you're both white trash.” (26:12, Jackie)
• Jackie is particularly fierce, calling the act “so immoral…so ugly,” and says the only way their relationship could’ve been justified was if they’d stayed together “forever.”
• They discuss the negative blowback for Ariana, noting that her “Q score has seriously suffered from all of this.” (30:07, Claudia)

2. Love Island – Huda’s Restraining Order Scandal (31:19–34:27)

• Claudia and Jackie react to surveillance footage of Love Island’s Huda Mustafa sneaking into her ex’s baby mama’s apartment, labeling her behavior “genuine crazy person behavior.” (32:27)
• The discussion affirms their skepticism over reality TV redemption arcs: “I never believed in the Huda Redemption arc…she’s crazy. Oh no. She’s misunderstood. No.” (33:25, Jackie)
• They reflect on the casting and eliminations from the show: “All to save Huda. This crazy, like.” (34:16)

3. Tom Brady’s ‘Good Nut’ Coconut Water (34:37–38:08)

• Both hosts are impressed by the punny branding, despite their personal feelings about Tom Brady.
  • “I can’t remember a time where I’ve been so dazzled by the name of someone’s company.” (35:00, Jackie)
• Conversation segues into observations about the crowded celebrity beverage industry and musings about their own place in podcast/pop culture niches.

4. Hey Jonas: Kevin Jonas’s Wingman Story (46:09–51:40)

• They recount a story from the Jonas Brothers’ podcast, where Kevin Jonas wingmanned and got sick at Nick Jonas’s first date with Priyanka Chopra at the Hollywood Bowl.
  • “Kevin was like, you know, someone bringing up, like, baseball or something. Kevin would be like, oh, Nick could have gone pro. He could have.” (46:54, Jackson)
• Both hosts reflect on how the quick engagement/marriage seemed suspicious at the time, but in hindsight, the couple has proven its authenticity.

5. Summer House & West Wilson’s Acknowledgment (51:48–56:14)

• Discussion on Summer House’s Wes Wilson and Dara’s viral reunion comments.
• Claudia questions Wes’s accountability: “He says all the right things. But, like, where...is there any desire to do it differently?” (54:07)
• The pair analyze Amanda’s decision-making and ponder whether there’s more to the story behind the scenes.

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Notable Quotes

• “I subscribe to the old school philosophy of money. No, you don’t. It’s Nunya. That’s how much money I make. Nunya, not so much.” – Jackie (00:53)
• “Well, we're not in the cloud anymore, according to Ben and the run some boys.” (11:40, Jackie)
• “You rip this man from his wife and newborn just to, like, not even be with him three years later, you’re both white trash.” – Jackie (26:12)
• “Genuine crazy person behavior.” – Jackie (32:27), re: Huda Mustafa sneaking into ex’s baby mama’s apt.
• “I can’t remember a time where I’ve been so dazzled by the name of someone’s company.” – Jackie (35:00), on Tom Brady's “Good Nut”
• “He knows all the things, but he is physically incapable of being any different.” – Jackie (54:32), on West Wilson

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Knicks Ticket Drama & Viewing Party: 00:25–02:38
• Knicks Game Recap & Ref Rant: 05:02–06:44
• Knicks Series State & Emotional Fallout: 10:05–13:16
• Pop Culture Fast 5 Stories Begin: 25:32
  • Ariana Grande & Ethan Slater Split: 25:45–31:13
  • Love Island / Huda’s Restraining Order: 31:19–34:27
  • Tom Brady’s ‘Good Nut’: 34:37–38:08
  • Jonas Brothers/Wingman Story: 46:09–51:40
  • Summer House / Wes & Dara: 51:48–56:14
• Advice Segment ("Dear Toasters"): 56:22–66:32

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Dear Toasters Segment (Advice Highlights)

(56:22–66:32)

• Complicated Dating with Separated Dad – Advice: Consider if the complicated situation fits your timeline and emotional needs; think carefully before getting too attached.
• Postpartum Boundaries – Advice: Medically and emotionally, it’s way too soon for intimacy; set clear boundaries—your healing comes first.
• Boyfriend Alters Deceased Dad’s Golf Club – Advice: Taking personal items and changing them without asking is a red flag; do an “odd audit” and check for patterns in his behavior.

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Merch Drop Announcement

• Jackie and Claudia excitedly promote their summer merch drop, live at 10am Eastern on June 10th.
• Discuss new items, sizing tips, and remind fans to shop early: “The rugby shirts will fly.” (25:05, Jackie)
• Shop at shoptoastmerch.com

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Overall Tone & Final Thoughts

Jackie and Claudia’s trademark mix of sarcasm, New York edge, and genuine warmth shines throughout. They deliver fan-favorite Knicks angst, pop culture accountability, and relatable life advice, all peppered with inside jokes (“cardboard” as a play on being thrifty) and sharp analysis. This episode is an essential listen for both Knicks diehards and pop culture fiends alike.

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For a detailed listen, start with the Knicks talk at 00:25, pop culture drama at 25:32, and jump to advice at 56:22.

Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, girlies.

[Jackson Claude]

It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five

[Jackie]

things you need to know. We'll start your day off.

[Jackson Claude]

Swirly.

[Jackie]

It's the Toast.

[Jackson Claude]

They sound amazing.

[Jackie]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. More like happy lose day because we're just. Yeah, I came up with that, like, on the fly for that. We're a bunch of losers.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, Turdy. How's it going?

[Jackie]

There's so much going on, and I haven't really wanted to spoil it because I'm vlogging the whole thing for Patreon. But, like, I had this big plan. I was surprising Ben yesterday with tickets. I literally got priced out. Like, me and my measly budget, like, could not cut it whatsoever.

[Jackson Claude]

Did you put the budget in the vlog?

[Jackie]

Like I said, Jackie wants me to be transparent. But, like, the thing is, I don't believe in paid transparency. Like, people on the Internet are always like, you have to tell everyone how much you paying rent and how much you made in money. Like, no, bitch, I fucking don't. Like, I. I subscribe to the old school philosophy of money. No, you don't. It's Nunya. That's how much money I make. Nunya, not so much.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm not asking you how much money you make. I just, like, it's interesting, the ticket. Everybody knows the tickets are so expensive, so I'm like, are you gonna share the dollars and cents?

[Jackie]

I will. Okay, fine. I'll share it on the vlog. On the vlog. I haven't in the vlog yet because,

[Jackson Claude]

you know, you didn't even buy them, so no one can even judge you.

[Jackie]

I know, but everyone is gonna judge me because they're like, your cardboard. Your cardboard. And it's like, you're just cosplaying cardboard because you're over here considering spending five figures.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, she's cardboard, but she's in love with her husband.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I selfishly like one I want to go to. I have to get better Father's Day gift. And this is literally the only thing in the entire world that he wants is the only thing. So we're working on tickets for Wednesday. It's all in the vlog. Hopefully the vlog ends with us at the game, like, the whole year.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, so you still might drop five figures.

[Jackie]

Yeah, the whole vlog is like, we're going. We're not going. We're going. Like, so nothing's happened in the vlog yet except for just, like, you know, Turdy and bsc,

[Jackson Claude]

which is why we're there. Which is why we're in the vlog.

[Jackie]

We didn't go last night, but we had to, like a party, viewing party, a crane club. You know, it was like very elite. Oh, not us. Sitting next to former mayor Eric Adams. Like it was seriously elite.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I was like sad for him that he wasn't at the game. You know, he would love that.

[Jackie]

He would love that. But of course he can't be at the game. He'll be at like the most pop and watch club. Watch party at the members club.

[Jackson Claude]

Studded one.

[Jackie]

Yeah, he was there. You know, he not look up from his phone for one second. I was like, what is going on in your phone? Like, watch the tv.

[Jackson Claude]

He should have been at the game.

[Jackie]

I know. I wonder why he wasn't him.

[Jackson Claude]

And like, he's a loser. But like, you know what?

[Jackie]

I genuinely like, I miss him so much. You really, like, don't know, but you got till it's gone. Till it's gone. And I think that's sort of like the general feeling with this like turnt mayor. Like he was a crazy mayor, but he was our mayor.

[Jackson Claude]

Like he was our crazy mayor. And.

[Jackie]

And like, oh, speaking of crazy mayors, did you see Mike Bloomberg like literally getting tackled at the game last night? Oh my God. Like there was so. First of all, it was a buzz with celebrities. I can't believe I wasn't there. Like, I'm like, whatever.

[Jackson Claude]

I know. But Kylie wasn't there. So like, it was obviously not the one for the cool girls.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's true. Maybe the cool, like billionaire bombshell are going on Wednesday.

[Jackson Claude]

Let me tell you. I. Kylie will be at the next one because Timothy is going to start to see her as the good luck charm.

[Jackie]

Good luck charm. And also, and this is obviously like, spoken like somebody who couldn't afford to get in. But like when I was seeing videos of all the street closures because Trump went, so they had to create like a secret service bubble. They closed five blocks east and west in midtown. If you had a ticket for. So you had to like show your ticket to the barricade, walk three avenues. Like, it looked like a nightmare logistically. So yeah, I'm glad I didn't go for that reason. I also got home at midnight. Like, I'm so tired. I can't keep up with this. I need the finals to end games that start at 8:45. Like, excuse me, I'm a mother and a business owner. Like, it's not cool.

[Jackson Claude]

No, it's really late, and it's kind of a bummer, like, for the kids, because I would love to have them watch some of the game. But to start at 8:45, like, then it's just so late. And I did watch. So I start. I watched the beginning of the game. I watched the anthem, which was just so beautiful.

[Jackie]

We have to talk about the anthem. So when they said the guy who's singing the anthem name, I'm like, oh, wow. They couldn't get, like, a bigger name. It's such a big concert, and I know he's, like, big on Broadway, but, like, it's very niche New York, which I guess is the point. Oh, my God. Never been more wrong. I had chills. Like, let me tell you, that's up there with the greats. Like, it was insane.

[Jackson Claude]

It was so amazing.

[Jackie]

His name is Avery. He's in the Wiz.

[Jackson Claude]

Avery Wilson. He plays the scarecrow in the Wiz. Go check it out.

[Jackie]

So when they said he was in the Wiz, I was like, oh, it's gonna be good. And then.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay. That's why it's someone that we don't know. It's like, someone from Broadway and New York City.

[Jackie]

Tori Kelly was doing it at the last game. Like, I thought we were getting, like, pop stars, but you know what? I've never been happy to be more wrong.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. They never go the obvious route. The NBA.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I'm like, I'm. I'm sad for who's doing it tonight. Like, where's Jessica Vosque? You know, if we're sticking with the Broadway theme, I think we're trying to highlight, you know, New York City. Like, Broadway. Let's do that. I love that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

He was incredible. Like, I had chills the whole time.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So I started watching the game, and I was like, okay, there's gonna be a lot of this. Like, I'm gonna go. I watched Love Island. Then I came back to the game, and I watched, like, probably from like, 10, 15 to 11. But it was just getting very stressful.

[Jackie]

It was.

[Jackson Claude]

And I was feeling stressed out, and I was also feeling like, you know what? I preferred it when I would just wake up to good news. Like, I don't want to be in the weeds here. I feel like. I feel like I shouldn't be watching because, like, the one time I'm watching, they're losing. Like, I should just go back to my hole.

[Jackie]

You think it's your fault? Like, a little bit. Yeah. So I watched with Ben and his crew of, like, Yellow belly Brunson boys. They take it so seriously. And I will say, like, if I was anybody else in the establishment, like, I would have, like, hated them. They were just, like, acting like they were in the arena. I'm like, you guys were at, like, a nice place. Can you stop? They were like, ref, that's a foul. Like, being so crazy. And, like, time out. Time out. I'm like, we're in a restaurant. Like, you can't talk like that. And I hate to be one of those people because I find, like, when I'm watching sports, and then the next day I hear people, like, complaining about the calls. Like, it's like, well, your team lost and, like, you played worse. So I will say, like, our team lost and we played worse, but the odds were stacked against us. Like, the refs genuinely giving def. Dumb and blind. Like, it's so crazy. In the second half, like, the Webanyamas had 24 free throws and the Knicks had eight, which means, like, only, you know, four fouls got called versus, like, 12. Thank you. Just like. And, like, Jalen Brunson got, like, dead ass punched in the head and, like, nothing. And then Jalen Brunson, like, touched someone's shoulder, and it was a flagrant foul. So I hate to be, like, a ref complainer because it is giving sore loser. Like, you stink. And it's like, I am a sore loser. The Knicks played poorly. I'm holding space for two things. That's true. While also, like, it was totally rigged. They don't want the Knicks to sweep because they can't get the ad dollars.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, they don't. They need that dollars. You know, I always say that.

[Jackie]

You're right.

[Jackson Claude]

Why have four games when you could have seven? That's three more games. That's hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue.

[Jackie]

Like, so the next game is on Wednesday. So now the series is 2 to 1. The first person to 4 wins. The next game is in New York, and then the next ones are back in Oklahoma. What? Where they.

[Jackson Claude]

San Antonio.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Jackson Claude]

That's in Texas.

[Jackie]

Yes, she's from Texas. I can sell, by the way. Also, like, to step it around, not

[Jackson Claude]

to promote violence, like, because violence is never the answer. But don't they just need to, like, take out Web and Yama?

[Jackie]

You mean, like, injure?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, because it's the Knicks versus Web and Yama, so.

[Jackie]

You know, I was analyzing this game with Ben today because I'm literally now, like, a girl who watches sports and loves beer. And I also, my sister Margo came last night and she drank a beer.

[Jackson Claude]

She actually got a beer.

[Jackie]

And she, like, in a non ironic way.

[Jackson Claude]

And, like, what were you doing? You were probably looking, like, so crazy.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I know. I was like, I thought we're having cocktails. I ordered, like, a tequila soda with lime juice. Margot was like, what's your, like, light beer. She got, like, a Stella. And like, this is the crazier part. Was that, like, all. Because it was just me, Margo, and, like, all of Ben's friends. All of Ben's friends were, like, really inspired because they got, like, cocktails and they were inspired by Margaret. They're like, you know what? That looks good. I'll also have a Stella. And then they had Stella's for the rest of the night. Were you seeing?

[Jackson Claude]

Were you okay, that's your Dre.

[Jackie]

Like, so not like other girls.

[Jackson Claude]

That's your dream.

[Jackie]

So I said to Ben this morning, it's really not, by the way, like, the team verse Web and Yama. If I was that tall, I just want to say I don't think he's that good. And maybe this is my only, like, my first. I've only seen him play three games, but I've been wholly uninspired by him. And if he wasn't that tall, like, he wouldn't be that good. Like, his skills are not exceedingly amazing. He's just tall and a good player. You know what I mean? He's not, like, the best player ever, who's also tall. Like, if. If LeBron James was that tall, I, like, we'd be having a different conversation. Sorry, he's not LeBron James, based on what I've seen.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, so even if he weren't on the team, like, they would still maybe win.

[Jackie]

No, they do have an unfair advantage because, like, he's just there, you know,

[Jackson Claude]

it's like, literally like a wall. Like, at a certain point, you can't get a shot off. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Except that. It's actually not like that. Like, I thought it would just be moot. Like, you're trying to play against, like, a giant. Like, it's really, like, not.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, sometimes they like to score the points when the giant's not there, when he's, like, still trailing from behind.

[Jackie]

I just want to say, like, shout out to that other guy in the team, Castle, who's, like, literally so good, and all he does is live in Victor Webbing Yama shadow. Like, it's like, Victor this, Webby that wouldn't be this Wendy that. And it's like, what about Castle? Who's, like, literally doing the most. Also, everyone on this team is, like, 21, 22 years old, which is, like, also not fair. Whatever. We're not letting it get us down because they're just, like, younger and sprightlier and, like, have so much energy.

[Jackson Claude]

But, you know, with age, a lot

[Jackie]

of them Nicks are like fathers.

[Jackson Claude]

I know, but, like, you get better with age to a point, and then, like, there's a sweet spot, and it's not 21.

[Jackie]

No, I agree with that. So the next game is on Wednesday, and, like, it's absolutely imperative that the Knicks win. And I do feel that they will, like, with the Garden. And, like, you know, it was a lot of pressure this game. Like, you know, the record and coming back to New York and the President and the mayor were there. Like, I get it. It's like a. And they also have not been playing their best, so I kind of feel like they needed to be humbled, quite frankly, because the last couple of games, I thought they played worse, but just, like, happened to have won. And I do feel like, through great challenges, like, great opportunities arise. Like, it's a chance to be great.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I'm kind of glad that they know what it's like to lose now. Like, once you only know winning, and it's all good. Like, Ben's friends were so drama in the car ride home. They were like, oh, I just miss. They talk about it so seriously. They were like, I just miss, like, when we were, like, living in a cloud, you know?

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie]

Because I guess it's been like a dream. Like, they haven't lost a game in 12 games. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So they've had, like, 12.

[Jackie]

They were taking it for granted. Yeah. And Ben was like, you know, you guys, we were just, like, living in a cloud. It wasn't real. But then they were like, but we love them cloud. Like, they were seriously being insane.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it was hilarious.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, my God. Well, honestly, I hope for the advertisers and for the lore that actually the Knicks win in seven, because that would mean they win at the Garden. Right.

[Jackie]

So, yeah, game three is at New York, and then they go back for four. Yeah. So three, five, and seven.

[Jackson Claude]

Wait, the next game is in New York, right?

[Jackie]

Yeah, three and four. Oh, that's four. Four, Sorry, three and four.

[Jackson Claude]

Five and six in San Antonio. Seven.

[Jackie]

No, no, just five. And then I think they go two there, two here, one here, one there.

[Jackson Claude]

So the Nicks and six. So we need.

[Jackie]

Yeah, six.

[Jackson Claude]

I just want them to win, like, In New York, because that would be cool, right?

[Jackie]

Game four at Knicks. Game five at Spurs. Game six at Knicks, Game seven at Spurs. So they just alternate now.

[Jackson Claude]

Nixon, Nixon six. And that rhymes. I like it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Nixon six.

[Jackson Claude]

Nixon six. Tell Ben, everyone get on it.

[Jackie]

Or five. Like, if they want to win in San Antonio. Sure.

[Jackson Claude]

Let's get a couple hundred mil more.

[Jackie]

One hundred.

[Jackson Claude]

And, like. And prolong this feeling.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Although I will say this city definitely has, like, a deflated energy to it. Remember yesterday I was like, everyone's walking on a cloud. Well, we're not in the cloud anymore, according to Ben and the run some boys. And you could tell there's just sort of like, a weird energy. We feel awkward. Like, we hyped up this game. People spent, like, literally. I think the minimum get was, like, probably an average of $6,000 a ticket. And we lost. That's also a lot of pressure to put on the players. Like, working class people put. Even though it's not the working class people. I didn't know. I really did not understand, like, how rich people in New York are until they, like, they. Because it's not like working class people selling their cars. Like, it's literally just people who can afford it. Yeah, it's. I didn't realize, like, how many rich people lived here. Or, like, we're Knicks fans.

[Jackson Claude]

You're saying the median price was 6,000?

[Jackie]

I don't know what. What the statistic is, but, yeah, I don't.

[Jackson Claude]

That sounds low. I don't know. Maybe because I kept seeing, like.

[Jackie]

You think it sounds low?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I keep talking about average. I know I kept seeing them, like, $200,000. Like, if you want to go sit in the nosebleeds, it's 10k.

[Jackie]

Like, people bought tickets, like, three weeks ago. And yeah, it was, like, a little bit of a spectacle, but as it came down, let's see. Knicks game three ticket average.

[Jackson Claude]

I do think also this will make Wednesday night's ticket a little cheaper.

[Jackie]

Because if it's not like, a final game.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah. So that's good for you. And the cardboard.

[Jackie]

The average sold price for a ticket as of Monday morning was 7, $600. Wow. That was a good guess by me. So, yeah, that's a lot of pressure, too. Like, people who, like, are lifelong Knicks fans, people who saved up for this, I understand, like, why they buckled under the pressure. So I'll give them this loss, but, like, actually, it's just not okay.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, I think they're gonna come back stronger. Really. And it's not like they lost the whole series. Like it's okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Even though if they had won it, like it would have been over, you

[Jackson Claude]

know, and it just would have been like so iconic. Everyone was like ready for.

[Jackie]

So iconic.

[Jackson Claude]

Everyone was ready for a win.

[Jackie]

Well, Kylie should, you know, get Kylie air all fueled up because she's definitely like, has something to do with it.

[Jackson Claude]

I agree. They're like, maybe they like so many celebrities courtside. So many celebrities.

[Jackie]

Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan, Derek Jeter, Manning, Christopher Maloney and Stabler and Benson. They sat together, which is like so New York. Oh, I didn't see him. Chris Rock. A lot of like Nick's Legends.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Jackie]

A lot of like New York athletic legends.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It was star studded but it wasn't like super swirly.

[Jackie]

I would say Ben Stiller. No, it was not. It's never super swirly.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It's like everyone's excited about all these people and they, they're not people that excite me. You know, it's like really traditional, traditional celebrities.

[Jackie]

This was a lot of businessmen like Robert Kraft, I think Michael Rubin, you know, like the sports billionaires.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Not a whole lot of influencers that

[Jackson Claude]

you do hate to see that. That's what I'm there for, the influencers.

[Jackie]

So stay tuned. The vlog is coming and hopefully I am too. Like, I would love to be there. Well, we'll be there Wednesday, come hell or high water.

[Jackson Claude]

We're rooting for you. We don't judge however much you spend. Treat yourself, you car.

[Jackie]

I judge.

[Jackson Claude]

You cardboarded so long for this.

[Jackie]

You think, yeah, but then I think about all the things I could buy.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, oh, so like I'm here thinking the tickets are like between 20 and 50 grand. So like seven.

[Jackie]

They are.

[Jackson Claude]

But you just said seven, 600.

[Jackie]

That's the average price for like 200 section. I'm sorry. Like, I need a good seat. Like, because one thing about me, I like watching on tv. So if my seat in the arena is like so bad that I can't see shit, like, that's not worth it to me. I don't need to be in the building.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, but Ben does. Because it's like the spirit.

[Jackie]

Ben would sit. Like, he wouldn't sit anywhere, but he would. Like, he's less picky than me. Like, I seriously, like, I need to be courtside. Like, I need to see stuff. I'm short. I don't have amazing vision. Like, I need to see it because

[Jackson Claude]

she needs to be courtside.

[Jackie]

So you could go, you could go

[Jackson Claude]

in the 200 section.

[Jackie]

It's. It's just like. It's insane. It's like five grand for, like, a shitty seat in the 200s and it's

[Jackson Claude]

by 2.5grand to be like a part of something.

[Jackie]

Exactly.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I'm sure the place looks great last night, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So it's. You're paying for the energy, really.

[Jackie]

So all in all, I'm glad that I couldn't get in because I would have, like, spent so much money on a loss and I just would have. I really would have been devastated.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Okay, well, keep us posted. We're excited. You missed, like, a pretty crazy episode of Love Island.

[Jackie]

Did I?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, like one of the crazier challenges.

[Jackie]

Do you think you could hold off? Like, I'll watch and we could recap tomorrow?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah, I think so. Unless, like, something comes up that I could. I could put it in. But we have so much TV to watch tonight, so I'm like, so glad I did my homework last night. Summer House and now Love Island.

[Jackie]

Oh, okay, that's not that much, but

[Jackson Claude]

you have two Love Islands.

[Jackie]

I'll figure it out. Don't worry about me.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, well, let's get into the stories, shall we?

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Without further ado, Dah do da do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

And you know what?

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

No.

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

Thank you.

[Jackie]

Turd back. You're welcome.

[Jackson Claude]

Story time. Actually, it's not story time. You know what time it is?

[Jackie]

Summertime merch time. Yes. Oh my God. Not us being so non self promotional. That.

[Jackson Claude]

That's so us. You guys, we have a new merch

[Jackie]

drop dropping tomorrow, 10am Eastern. Yeah, that's right. Jack and I are both wearing wearing

[Jackson Claude]

pieces from the new collection. It's such cute.

[Jackie]

It's one of our best.

[Jackson Claude]

This sweater that Claudia is wearing, it's a quarter zip creamy sweater with like a lovely, elegant blue toast logo on it.

[Jackie]

Emblem.

[Jackson Claude]

An emblem. I'm wearing an emblem as well.

[Jackie]

This is the rugby shirt.

[Jackson Claude]

A rugby shirt. We've sold rugby shirts in the past. They're so beloved and it's the cutest.

[Jackie]

Oh my God. The rugby shirts flew off the shelves last time in blue. So now we're doing very gender reveal Pink. Everything launches 10am Eastern Time. ShopToast merch.com if you go to our Instagram, you'll be able to see all the pieces that are dropping. We've got our iconic T shirts coming in two new styles, a yellow and a blue. Sick new designs. I mean that's the same like iconic, big ass, flowy, postpartum, pregnant woman friendly T shirt. The one size that truly is one size. We've got quarter zips, we've got matching sets, we've got hats. Hats. Jackie, in all the photos I'm wearing a size large and I think you are too. Right.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. We were wearing from the same.

[Jackie]

From the same crop. Crop. And today I'm wearing extra large. So, like, if you look more fitted, I would just do your regular size. If you're looking for, like, a big more cozy vibe, I would size up. The rugby shirts will fly.

[Jackson Claude]

Just letting everyone know those that you're wearing are gonna.

[Jackie]

This is new. I don't know if we've ever done a quarter zip.

[Jackson Claude]

Not in recent herstory. I was actually just going through a bunch of my old merch, just organizing my closet, and I didn't see a quarter zip. It's super cute.

[Jackie]

A quarter zip is kind of sick. So. Shoptoastmerch.com 10am Eastern Time tomorrow on Wednesday, June 10th.

[Jackson Claude]

Make haste while supplies last.

[Jackie]

Make haste while supplies last.

[Jackson Claude]

Classic.

[Jackie]

Classic.

[Jackson Claude]

That should be our website, makehase.com while supplies last. While supplies last. Okay, now the stories. First up, Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater have split after three years of dating.

[Jackie]

Love is dead.

[Jackson Claude]

So rumors are swirling that Ari and Ethan have broken up. And actually, they broke up several months ago, but they've remained friends since then and have nothing but respect and admiration for one another. So I just want to say, like, whenever I said, when was it a couple weeks ago that they were broken up? Like, I think they were broken up. I don't know where.

[Jackie]

So maybe you just, like, had a feeling.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't know if I had a feeling or, like, I heard it or I just, like, yeah, maybe my spidey senses were tingling, but they're broken up and they have been.

[Jackie]

And I mean, this is so unacceptable. Like, you rip this man from his wife and newborn just to, like, not even be with him. Three years later, you're both white trash. Quite frankly, I can't talk about the Ethan Slater of it all without, like, having, like, genuine hate in my heart for Iron Grande. And I don't hate her. I actually like her. So, like, it's hard because what she did is so immoral. It's so ugly. Lily J. Deserves better. I can't believe that they're not even together. Like, the only way this ever would have been, okay, was if they were together and were buried together. Like, in a hundred years. Like, together forever. That's not, like, Ari's thing. She's very much Evelyn Hugo. So, like, this is just disgraceful. Like, just disgusting behavior.

[Jackson Claude]

Disgusting people, like, didn't do stuff like this.

[Jackie]

Like, sorry, yeah, not me. Disgraceful. Evelyn Hugo would never, like, you sort

[Jackson Claude]

of, like, glamorize her. Just, like, like, you know, discarding individuals. But it's not glamorous. It's. It's.

[Jackie]

Well, she had her own reasons. I don't want to spoil the book for, you know, why she had seven.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. And also some of them, like, were, like, it was. You know, they were relationships, though. But this is just, like. Seems like a pattern for Ari where it's like, okay, so. So then what next?

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, like, I. I hope Ethan Slater. I hope he regrets what he did for, like, a very long. I hope this haunts him genuinely until the day he dies. And now he does.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't think he was ever gonna, like, not pursue Ariana Grande if given the chance, because, like, really, once in a lifetime.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

For a guy like him.

[Jackie]

Like, yeah. And I know, like, Bow and Yang went on a press tour, like, saying that the timelines were, like, it's so much better than what people say in Ari. Just let everyone. I want to say, based on things that I know, it's worse than what the Internet thinks. Like, I had heard from someone that, like, she was taking the baby on walks. Like, I had heard really disgusting things. Like, so I. I can't think too much about this because it will turn me into, like, an Ariana Grande troll hater. I don't want to be that person. Like, I like her music. I think she's a nice girl. Like, I think she's been through a lot. But, like, I'm sorry. Going through a lot is not, like, an excuse to steal someone's husband and father. Like, that's insane.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I know. It's like, well, it takes two people. She didn't steal him. I'm sorry. When you're like, the power dynamics are not in balance and, like, you're the biggest star in the world and he's Spongebob. Like, sorry, you can steal someone.

[Jackson Claude]

Ye. No, that was a steal from. From Ari. This man. This man has no agency.

[Jackie]

Yeah, exactly. That. That's so true. Because a lot of times, and I do feel like we blame someone more than.

[Jackson Claude]

And that's not right.

[Jackie]

He had to freely go.

[Jackson Claude]

He's the one who's attached to Lily. She doesn't know.

[Jackie]

He has the responsibility to be loyal to his family and son. It's like, well, yes, that's true. He's also incapable of choosing. Like. Like, it wasn't a fair fight.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. No. And what are you doing? Like, seriously, what are you doing?

[Jackie]

Like, it's like, oh, sweetie, sweetie. You didn't really think, like, Ariana Grande was going to be with you forever

[Jackson Claude]

with three years, that's forever for her.

[Jackie]

It is a long time. No, actually, like, all of her relationships are long term. It's not like three months here. Three months here. She was married, like, but they're like these big relationships.

[Jackson Claude]

No, this is a long one. Like, Pete Davidson felt really long, but that was like three months.

[Jackie]

How long was she married to Dalton for? How long was she with Dalton for?

[Jackson Claude]

They got married in like, Covid. Right. And then probably three years ago they announced their divorce.

[Jackie]

So that's okay. So another three years. Big Sean was like a long term one. Mac Miller.

[Jackson Claude]

No, they feel longer than they are. And she was with Dalton less than two years. And how long were they actually separated before? And yeah, everyone's like. And nobody cares that she like cheated on her husband?

[Jackie]

Happened with. No, nobody cares about Dalton. Nobody care.

[Jackson Claude]

And also, I don't think they were together.

[Jackie]

Objection. Relevance.

[Jackson Claude]

But yes, technically there was cheating on both sides.

[Jackie]

Who cares? No, I don't like justice for Lily J. I am sorry.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, I also think this is like a tough spot for Ari because she, her Q score has seriously suffered from all of this. She has begun to bounce back as people just like, accept the fact that they obviously love each other.

[Jackie]

We're together now.

[Jackson Claude]

She's trying to do music and her tour again. And this is going to disrupt her likability once again. I don't think it makes her more likable now that the relationship's over. I.

[Jackie]

Because it's like, you did all that for what?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, and it makes her less likable because now we're talking about it again.

[Jackie]

Yep.

[Jackson Claude]

I guess it was bound.

[Jackie]

So I understand, like the slow rollout of the breakup.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Maybe like after the tickets were sold

[Jackie]

to the tour, you know, me and Bach.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, maybe ticket sales are in a good place so she feels like she

[Jackie]

can comfortable soft launching the breakup.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie]

I can't talk about this too much because I start to get like a. Like I really like, hate.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, same.

[Jackie]

But like Lily J, I see you. I am with you on a day like today. And I'm sure this doesn't even feel good for Lily J. Like, it's not what she wanted.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, it doesn't change anything.

[Jackie]

It doesn't change anything.

[Jackson Claude]

Stupid.

[Jackie]

Stupid.

[Jackson Claude]

Are you ready for our next story? Video has emerged of Love Island's Huda Mustafa entering the building of her ex boyfriend's baby mama's home. So we had reported and everyone was talking about how, you know, weeks ago, Huda and her boyfriend and ex boyfriend on Off Lewis and his baby mama had filed a restraining order against Huda because she had like, tried to come to her apartment. And yesterday, video surfaced from the apartment building of one mishod Mustafa, like the

[Jackie]

actual incident in question. We got the security tape into the parking garage. This is so crazy.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

First I was like, what am I watching? Because there's a car in the video. And I'm like, oh, how did she. I thought it was her in the car. And I'm like, oh my God, she's so crazy. She got someone to open the gate and whatever. No, no, that was a resident, like going into their garage. And as the garage is closing, a crazy little woman seeks out from the shadows, sneaks out from the shadows, house runs and like literally like a spy kid rolls under the gate and gets into this woman's. And this woman is her boyfriend's ex, like the mother of his child's apartment building. She's then seen on footage, like on the phone, like walking fiercely through the garage. Genuine crazy person behavior.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Crazy person on the loose.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It's actually like one of those videos you see, like, you know, wanted.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Crazy individual.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. It's unclear why this video is coming out now. TMZ obtained the surveillance footage showing her making her way into the apartment. You know, the court stuff is sort of ongoing.

[Jackie]

If you watched her season of Love island, not one part of this is shocking. She was a manipulative and I hate to like, I don't want to overuse this word, but like quite abusive partner to a Jeremiah. And so that was like a small four day relationship. This is a, this has been like long term real life relationship. So yeah, this is not surprising. I once again, I feel that my opinions on the previous season of Love island, like, I continue to be rewarded. You know, I never gave into Amaya Papaya gate and like thought everything she said was cute and funny. I quite honestly didn't understand it. I never thought Huda, I never believed in the Hood of Redemption arc. Like, everyone was like, she's crazy. Oh no. She's misunderstood.

[Jackson Claude]

No, like, no, I was saying that she was there from the beginning to the end, like to the very last day.

[Jackie]

A demented individual.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, yeah. For everyone. It's who never got sent home.

[Jackie]

And there were so many people, like inactive partnerships in active connections with multiple connections who got sent home, like, because they didn't want to send her to home.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I'm sorry, like, I'll never stand anyone from that season, even Alandra. Like, everyone's forgotten but, like, Shelly, Alandra, Sierra, all those girls who, like, would not stop voting other people out. Like, where is the accountability? We need bea the accountability police to get all over that.

[Jackson Claude]

That. No, it's really true. That was so crazy when they sent Hannah home.

[Jackie]

Oh, Charlie.

[Jackson Claude]

Charlie.

[Jackie]

Infuriating.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

All to save Huda. This crazy, like.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Who actually turned out to be crazier than we even knew. Yeah.

[Jackie]

But it was like, it was just a microcosm of the crazy that lied underneath the tip of the iceberg.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? It's a little biz news, I guess, because Tom Brady has unveiled his latest post. NFL business venture called Good Nut.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

So Tom Brady has unveiled his latest business venture, a premium coconut water brand called Good Nut. He put out a video that's, like, very satirical about the name of the drink, Good Nut. And it's organic Vietnamese coconuts in coconut water.

[Jackie]

Let me tell you one thing about Tom Brady. Like, I'm not gonna let him sleep. Like, I can't stand him. Like, I just think he's such a loser. Having said that, credit where credit is due. I can't remember a time where I've been so dazzled by the name of someone's company. Like, first of all, it's brilliant. Right. Because it's coconut and it's a good coconut. Good nut. Good night. Good night.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, good night.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jackson Claude]

I didn't know that good night was,

[Jackie]

of course, the more cultural. What a nut. You know, like, you had a good nut. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

It's like, sexual.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah. I like, I love, like, whatever creative agency because, you know, Tom didn't come up with this. Whatever creative agency did. Like, kudos to you.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But also, he seems to be, you know, lightening up a little bit in this stage of his life. Like, so serious, you know, like, that he's a part of this and this is where he's headed.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Also, I think, like, obviously the celebrity beverage space is a popular space to be in something new. Coconut water. Love that. Not doing, like, a spiked seltzer like everybody else. Love that.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. People love coconut water.

[Jackie]

We should enter the celebrity hydration space. Don't you find?

[Jackson Claude]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Oh, well, we are in the celebrity alcohol space, but, like, the more wellness

[Jackson Claude]

focused, like, because we're like Tom Brady.

[Jackie]

Yeah. We're sort of goats of our. Of our very specific niche, you know, which is daily pop culture podcasting hosted by Sisters.

[Jackson Claude]

Hosted by Sisters. Actually, there's not another daily pop culture podcast, so it doesn't even have to Caveat. Hosted by sisters.

[Jackie]

Is there not like the New York Times one? Pop to cast.

[Jackson Claude]

I've never heard of it, honestly. What's. What did you say?

[Jackie]

So pop cast. Pop. No, what's it called? New York Times has like a pop culture podcast and I do feel that they are heavily inspired by us. I'm being dead serious. I just had Olivia Rodrigo on.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, I saw clips from it. That's a podcast. That's daily. Yeah.

[Jackie]

And the weird thing is that like, the New York Times has a pop culture podcast, which, like, like that's just weird. I don't think that, like people go to the New York Times for pop culture and it's hosted by two men.

[Jackson Claude]

Like two old men. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

It's so strange. And I have no shade against them. I actually think that they do a good job. Like whenever I hear their takes, they're quite nuanced. Show. I don't know if it's daily.

[Jackson Claude]

Cuz you said daily.

[Jackie]

What is it? It's about music and it's daily.

[Jackson Claude]

Is it daily?

[Jackie]

Is it daily? I don't think it's daily. The New York Times has the daily.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no, you said daily pop culture.

[Jackie]

What is it? Weekly? Weekly, yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Daily pop culture.

[Jackie]

Daily pop culture. Oh, is chicks in the office daily?

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think they're like four days a week.

[Jackie]

Three or four.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay. Where?

[Jackson Claude]

That's us. Dpc.

[Jackie]

Daily Pop culture. And I don't know, I'd say we veer more on like daily comedy as well.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh yeah. Does anybody do daily comedy?

[Jackie]

I know I chuckle every day.

[Jackson Claude]

We're in the comedy category. Does anyone do daily comedy shows?

[Jackie]

When it comes to just daily shows,

[Jackson Claude]

it's us in the daily.

[Jackie]

The daily. Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I don't think anybody else is doing daily yet. They do like four days a week.

[Jackie]

And I don't know if anyone's doing daily. Like we are.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, they could never.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Jackie]

Wait, what was the story? Oh, Tom Brady.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. The stories are very light today. Like, don't feel the need to get like bogged down into them in the story.

[Jackie]

Just sort of use them as a vessel.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. Like, and also I was. It was weird. The stories are like today, even though so much is going on in the world, like the Knicks and Love island and. And whatnot. And it's like. So the stories are light, but let's let the. Let's let the show. Like we don't have to be in this box, you know?

[Jackie]

Okay. I love that.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, we can take this Thing wherever we want to go. It's true.

[Jackie]

Every now and then I, like, remember because, you know, I think that the structure of this show. Let's go toast at a glance for a moment. I think the structure of this show, like, is so important. Right. People know what they're gonna get. They have expectations and we need them every time.

[Jackson Claude]

And with things to talk about every single day.

[Jackie]

Yes, but every now and then I remember, like, we could just.

[Jackson Claude]

No, like, every now and then I could be like, listen, there's three stories I want to talk about today. We have Dear Toasters, we have Nicks at the beginning. Like, we have a show and we don't have to do Pick two more stories just cuz. Yeah, but here I go. Just cuz.

[Jackie]

It's very inspiring when you think of it that way.

[Jackson Claude]

Maybe next time I'll shirk tradition, but today I picked two more stories just because.

[Jackie]

So today you're not saying screw tradition.

[Jackson Claude]

No, today I'm very traditional.

[Jackie]

We would never say that. We actually are quite for like two,

[Jackson Claude]

you know, modern women.

[Jackie]

We're extremely traditional in our just.

[Jackson Claude]

We're transitional.

[Jackie]

Why?

[Jackson Claude]

Transitional is like a mix of modern and traditional in. In like, interior design. So why can't it apply to us as well?

[Jackie]

Okay, but transitional also means, like, changing.

[Jackson Claude]

We are ever changing. We used to hate kitten heels.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Jackson Claude]

Thus, we are transitional. I rest my case.

[Jackie]

Law is reason free from passion. So who am I? Seriously, who am I?

[Jackson Claude]

Are you ready for our fourth story? Just cuz.

[Jackie]

Yes, I'm not.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, well, should have said so, right? You should have said we have deer toasters, don't we?

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

You know what you need to because you know what I found when I went to New York? They don't, they don't give Truvia out.

[Jackie]

I know you need to byop.

[Jackson Claude]

I literally, I got a coffee and I held it all the way till I got to your house till I could use your Truvia.

[Jackie]

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[Jackson Claude]

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[Jackson Claude]

Are you ready for our next story? Thank you to the Jonas Brothers and their podcast for this sort of fourth story news. You know, like, hey, Jonas is so fourth story.

[Jackie]

If. If by fourth story you mean bottom of the barrel.

[Jackson Claude]

It's just like irrelevant randomness, like, you

[Jackie]

know, fun fodder that sparks interesting conversation fodder.

[Jackson Claude]

Kevin Jonas says that he threw up during his brother Nick's first date with his wife, Priyanka Chopra.

[Jackie]

He said, heaven threw up.

[Jackson Claude]

Kevin threw up. He wingman so hard.

[Jackie]

He said, oh, because he got like wasted.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. So when Nick was on therapist, he told the story of his first date with Priyanka, which was at the Hollywood bowl with, like a group of friends, including, like Kevin, to see Beauty and the Beast. He was like, let's bring some friends so there's less pressure. So it was like a group hang in case it wasn't the vibe. And so she brought her best friend. He brought Kevin, another couple friend. We had like the absolute best time at the show. Nick said, I done therapists. The group, they went out for drinks. They took shots. He said, like, Kevin was, like, overly hyping him up.

[Jackie]

I was like, Kevin.

[Jackson Claude]

He was like, you know, someone bringing up, like, baseball or something. Kevin would be like, oh, Nick could have gone pro. He could have.

[Jackie]

I'm cracking up.

[Jackson Claude]

He could have been a pro baseball player. He was like, that was the most Jersey thing ever. And it was very sweet. She was obviously like, your brother's, like, really gassing you up. And Nick was like, he really wants this to go well. Well, and then it did. He said, we French kissed that night.

[Jackie]

So French kissed. Sorry. Like, I roll Nick Jonas. Just. Sorry.

[Jackson Claude]

I would, but they've been married for eight years.

[Jackie]

No, I didn't say eye roll, Nick Jones or Priyanka. I'm saying Nick Jonas. Like, who says that we French kissed? Like, what are you. Like, what. Who are you, Danielle Steele? Like, who are you? Colleen Over. So anyways, one thing about me, I cannot let Nick Jonas live. Like, I keep my foot on his neck. Like, I need to hold him accountable. I just, like, do you find it shocking that, like, he needed a wingman and he asked Kevin? I just based on, like, the vibes. When I read their body language, I just feel like Nick hates Kevin.

[Jackson Claude]

Well, I feel like there's a wingman for different things. And, like, I think he was really interested in Priyanka, like, wifey material. So he's bringing his husband, friend, stable. The stable dad. Yeah. But, like, if he was trying to woo someone else, like, maybe Kevin's not the vibe, but I think, like, Kevin is the vibe to show Priyanka, like, what their life could look like being stable and happy.

[Jackie]

I just want to say, like, this story. I didn't know that, like, this was the origin story of Nick and Priyanka makes everyone look so good, especially Kevin.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I just love him. And so then on. Hey, Jonas.

[Jackson Claude]

Hey, Jonas. Kevin was. They were talking about the date because he was saying it's like, coming up on the eight year anniversary of when they went out and Kevin said, I wingmanned hard. I wingman so hard, I threw up in the bathroom. And rall again.

[Jackie]

I love him so much. Like, seriously, dad, friend, brother of the year.

[Jackson Claude]

Brother of the year. What's crazy? And we knew this at the time, but, like, I guess it sounds even crazier. They got engaged two months after their first date.

[Jackie]

What?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. And then that. So they got engaged in July, and then they got married in December, and it was very quick. And I remember at the time, like, no, One believed that they were real because, like, well, who gets that? Didn't help so quickly.

[Jackie]

It was such a random matching and then, yes, a speedy courtship that there was so much doubt cast on them as, like, a PR relationship. It was so. It was bizarre. I'm sorry. It was. Now, obviously, they've been together for eight years and there's, like, nothing weird about it. They're like a very happily married family. But I'm sorry, at the time, like, dispersions were cast, and I want to say for good reason.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah. But, like, we were all wrong, of course. Like, they knew what they had. They were set on each other. More of that, you know.

[Jackie]

Agreed. But I think celebrities do that a lot, but they're not set on one another. It was Max Erlich and Demi Lovato.

[Jackson Claude]

It was the same season that, like, Ariana and Pete got engaged, and then also Haley and Justin. So people were casting doubt on all three. But what's so crazy is, like, Nick. Two out of three, Nick and Priyanka got, like, the most doubt.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I think there's also an age gap and I think that people also were just like, how did this two even meet? Like, it just felt so random.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

It doesn't feel random now because, like, they're.

[Jackson Claude]

No, though it's like. No. They're actually so cute. I like, forget that they are together and like, that's. They got married so quickly and engaged so quickly, and they just knew, like, kudos.

[Jackie]

And you know what else? I feel like we're always talking about celebrities who keep their babies off, like, off outside, like, the public sphere. We never talk about the Jonas kids. Kevin doesn't, but the other two do.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

We've never seen a picture about either of their kids.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I don't follow them, so I know that Priyanka and Nick don't.

[Jackson Claude]

They do emojis. Right.

[Jackie]

I don't know what they do, but, like, blurred lines, whatever. Yeah. I've never seen a photo of them. I don't even know their names. Like, maybe Willa. I think there's a Willa in there.

[Jackson Claude]

I think so, too.

[Jackie]

So whenever we're having those conversations, we never bring up the Jonas Brothers. But, like, Sly.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, totally.

[Jackie]

So, hey, Jonas, like, is making waves in the podcasting world.

[Jackson Claude]

Hey, Jonas is working for me. It really is. It's something. The stories, it's.

[Jackie]

I was a doubter, non believer, and based on the limited clips and headlines I've seen, like, it's cute. I haven't. I don't know if I Would love a whole episode.

[Jackson Claude]

Do you see clips?

[Jackie]

I think I did, yeah. Yeah, I saw Joe talking about his co parenting relationship. Remember I was saying that, that it was a clip.

[Jackson Claude]

Oh, wow.

[Jackie]

Wow. Yeah. I want to see the logo. They have these like custom mic flags and it's called hey Jonas. And they obviously had one of their kids, right? Like, hey, Jonah's probably like one of the older girls who like, knows how to write.

[Jackson Claude]

So cute.

[Jackie]

And that's the logo.

[Jackson Claude]

That's so cute.

[Jackie]

Her penmanship needs work, but yeah, she's.

[Jackson Claude]

She's literally working on it.

[Jackie]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[Jackson Claude]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Summer House? Wes Wilson, Madame Marable.

[Jackie]

Garrett Graham, Karen Reed.

[Jackson Claude]

Exactly. Says Benson Boone says he thinks about Dara Leviton's reunion comments every day.

[Jackie]

So what? Did he say this on his turn podcast? When he just sits down and lies?

[Jackson Claude]

Yes. So I get clips for his podcast.

[Jackie]

Me too. And they're very low engagement, don't you find? They're not like huge episodes.

[Jackson Claude]

So it's like, they're so short. I know, like, you like short clips. This is something that we like always talk about.

[Jackie]

I have our. We will never truly be famous because our clips are not like, like buzzy sound bites, 10 seconds each. Like. No, no. We're having thoughtful two minute conversations and people don't want to watch a two minute podcast clip.

[Jackson Claude]

But I like watching a longer podcast clip. Like, cuz, like, like I want to see a conversation like this isn't like

[Jackie]

a. Yeah, but the whole point is that, like, you're going to like what you see, but it's not enough. So you go listen to the podcast.

[Jackson Claude]

But I feel like people who have like buzzy, like little, little bites, like people aren't actually listening to the podcast now. Oh, I like your clips. You're. You're a content creator.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just. Yeah. I don't know what the right thing is, but our four minute clips, like, are cutting it.

[Jackson Claude]

I love them. And I love watching other four minute clips like, oh, you entertain me for four minutes. You have talent.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Jackson Claude]

Anyway, so I find their clips to be very short and there's literally like two sentences in them.

[Jackie]

But who are we talking about again? West, Dara and Oh, oh, oh, West's podcast clips. Yes, I agree they're very short. I agree, I agree.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm glad you agree. So he is addressing what Dara said, which, you know, went, went like super viral.

[Jackie]

He said, at which time? Which one? The first or the second?

[Jackson Claude]

I Think all he said, I think the reunion is good for people to just get off their chest. Dara. I've known her for a long time. Obviously, it hurts a little more to have a friend, like, really cook you like that. In that moment. He said, I've thought about it probably every day since then. So he said, I haven't run away from my bad communication style or dating history. It has not been clean in a long time time. She's valid for calling me out in that capacity because, yeah, I've dated casually and hurt people. That one did stick out to me, honestly, a lot, because I was like, oh, this is someone who I've been romantic with and been friends with. To have them just give me the full scope of what that reads like to someone who's been a part of it all. In all facets, that's a lot to take in. Like, is there any. Like, okay, so this is acknowledgment, right? Like, he acknowledges that that's his behavior. I think he's taking accountability for his behavior.

[Jackie]

That's the West Wilson way. But, like, he says the all the right things. But, like, where.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, is there any desire to do it differently?

[Jackie]

Or, like, no, he just acknowledges it because it, like, makes him look good. He knows exactly what to say.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, he's like, he can recognize. I don't even think he's putting on, like, I recognize I hurt people. I recognize my actions were bad, and they hurt people. Is there any desire to not want to do that anymore?

[Jackie]

No, because that's also, like, over the summer, when he was talking with Ben about, like, how him and Sierra have just such amazing romantic sexual chemistry, you know, friendship chemistry. But, like, he obviously can't be in a relationship because he has that, like, disability. So it's like, he knows all the things, but he is physically incapable of being any different. But he is capable of acknowledging his shortcomings, but that's sort of where he draws the line, just acknowledging them.

[Jackson Claude]

Yes, but so then it's like, what is he saying to Amanda that's keeping her around? Like, I feel like I don't think

[Jackie]

she's requiring a lot of.

[Jackson Claude]

But I feel like this is the different one. Like, and I feel like in the reunion tonight, we're gonna hear more from, like, what their conversations have been, like, because really, why would she throw. And I know I'm always giving her, like, some sort of benefit of the doubt, like, to believe that something is being told to her that is keeping her in this position that she threw away her Whole life, her career and her friendships and her reputation on her name.

[Jackie]

Watching the union, it's been made kind of more clear that, like, they're kind of unsure about where they are and they just made this announcement because they have feelings for one another and they don't really know where it's going. So they haven't really firmed up anything. So she really did throw her whole life, reputation, career away for a feeling, for a crush. Not a relationship, not a great love. Maybe it'll turn into that. But at the time when they're recording this reunion, like, right on the heels of their statement, it's literally just a feeling that they're exploring.

[Jackson Claude]

Boring, right? But, like, in the last two months, like, since the reunion, since the statement, they're traveling together. They're together all the time. He's. It doesn't appear like he's dating other people because, like, when would he can. He can't. Right? So maybe this one's different. Like, I just. I don't know. I. I can't wrap my head around someone being so stupid. I really can't. That's why I always.

[Jackie]

I know.

[Jackson Claude]

That's why I always think there has to be something else. There's something that they have between them that we don't know, because. Yes.

[Jackie]

Right. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. Every Tuesday, Jackie and I like to help out members of our community. They write us in, whether it's dating stuff, wedding drama, workplace romance. Email us Dear Toasters, gmail.com if you need advice from your girlies or head over to our website, the podcast dot com. Scroll down to the submission box. Both totally anonymous methods of submission. And we will never, you know, blow up your spot. Ready? Hey, Jackson Turdy. First of all, love you guys. I spent my weekend saying the place looks great, while it always does. I need advice because I know the logical answer, but I'm conflicted. I take Pilates at a studio with a coffee shop attached to it, and one day I noticed this really handsome guy there. We made eye contact a few times, but I assumed he was writing, waiting for his girlfriend, and I left without saying anything. A few classes later, after realizing he's just working and not a significant other of anyone there, my instructor ended up showing him my Instagram and encouraging him to follow me, and instead he gave her his number for me. But before I even texted him, he followed me and DM'd me for first. We instantly clicked. We talked for hours. But then he casually mentioned that he has two Kids. I jokingly said, you're hopefully not married. And he told me he separated co parenting and the situation is complicated. I did some investing and found that the co parents Instagram, while they don't wear rings and they have different last names, they all still live in the same house for the kids. He's reassured me that there's no chance of reconciliation, but I can't tell if I'm ignoring obvious red flags because the next the connection feels so strong. I obviously don't want to tell him I've seen her Instagram. Do I trust the vibe? Should I run before I get attached? So she is like, yeah, no, I

[Jackson Claude]

think it's a very complicated situation and like, you have to think about what you want and like, what your timeline is. Because by the time that this man, like, figures out his mess of a life and honestly, the idea that they're living like, in the same house for the kids while not being together, like, is actually, like, kind of nice for their family. So, like, of course. So is he running to move out? As long as he lives with his wife, you're never going over to his house. Like, that's not a real relationship for you. You. And like, if you are looking to, like, get married and have kids, like, by the time he's available to have a real relationship, like, it could be five years. Like, I think this sounds like a waste of time.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Although I just want to say I like that they're living together.

[Jackson Claude]

Like, I. I don't want.

[Jackie]

I feel like it really speaks to him, being a committed dad. I do. I don't. What about her? Who? Our girl. Our toast. No, no, I, I agree with you. Like, this is seriously.

[Jackson Claude]

He sounds like maybe he's the guy

[Jackie]

for you and if you could be Pat.

[Jackson Claude]

Sure.

[Jackie]

Years.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, he sounds like a nice, quality guy. I'm happy for his.

[Jackie]

I believe that they're not recon. Reconciling.

[Jackson Claude]

I don't think anything nefarious is happening. But, like, you have to, like, figure out your own life and like, this sort of situation, like, probably doesn't work for a young woman's timeline. I don't know how old you are. I don't know what you're looking for. You can't just, like, wait around for him.

[Jackie]

Like, yeah, this, this setup works until one of the people gets into a relationship. So, like, are you going to be the girl? Like, that's a lot of drama. If you feel that this is the great love of your life, like, maybe you want to go and waste your Time. I wouldn't recommend it.

[Jackson Claude]

You can also say to him, like, I like you so much. I. You obviously have a complicated situation that's not fully fleshed out. Like, I don't think we should be together right now. But, like, when you know what your future holds, like, calm, call me. And in that time, you can go and meet other people and. And make a go. Try and find someone. But maybe you'll wind up back together, but the time is not right. Right. Right now.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So, like, is he also really shouldn't be dating right now?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, it seems, like, really fresh. Yeah, it just sounds really messy and, like, it's not your mess.

[Jackie]

This isn't your place.

[Jackson Claude]

You're supposed to be on a clean slate. Like, you're starting to find your person. Like, it's just a lot if you.

[Jackie]

It's just a lot.

[Jackson Claude]

And the odds of it working out perfectly and in the time frame that works for you are very slim. Him.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Right. All right, next up. Hey, Swirlies. I'm two weeks postpartum with my second child, and my husband is horny as in addition to nine months of a medically traumatic pregnancy. I just got home from the hospital after almost dying from postpartum preeclampsia. My husband was actually in the room when my heart stop, and I had to be revived. So I feel like he wants to me so bad because he almost lost me, but good God, I'm two weeks postpartum. How do I set reasonable boundaries gently with this very sweet man who's clearly traumatized and also horny as fast? By the way, I promise I will submit an update because I'm also annoyed with the lack of updates. Yours truly, a mama of two with no libido. I. I feel like the fact that you, like, are seeing this as, like, a sweet thing that your husband's doing. Like, you are a better woman than me because your husband needs to all the way off. And now we all have to come up with a plan for, like, you to let him down easy. Why don't you send him this episode? Sir. Off. Okay? Like, leave your wife alone. She gets a year.

[Jackson Claude]

I'm sorry, Medically, she gets a year. Medically, she can't even talk to you or look at you for six weeks. Weeks? No.

[Jackie]

Six weeks. She's already two weeks postpartum, so she

[Jackson Claude]

has four more weeks medically, and then it's whenever she decides. But, like, seriously, two weeks. Like, aren't you busy? Like, don't. Aren't you busy with the newborn and

[Jackie]

your Pre existing child. Like a toddler presumably.

[Jackson Claude]

Right. Like I. I think you're giving him

[Jackie]

a lot of credit.

[Jackson Claude]

He almost lost me. So he wants to know.

[Jackie]

You're so sweet. Like you sound like such a queen and I like that you really see the best in your husband. Like you don't see him as a pest with his own making. His is. Yeah, he's a past. You don't see him as that. Like making his own needs, like the priority versus your like genuine clinical medical needs. That's sweet. Like you seem like a really sweet wife. You obviously love him because you see the best in him. But like, seriously, this is not that he's annoying and he has to go. Yeah, yeah, just by the way.

[Jackson Claude]

No, no is a whole sentence. And also like medically you can't do anything.

[Jackie]

Well, you know, people do because then, you know, there are people who have babies who are like 10 months apart. It's insane. Who could possibly.

[Jackson Claude]

10 months apart? No. Then you're like at the six week.

[Jackie]

I just want to say like the first time that I, you know, after postpartum I had to like soak in a tub. I was in so much pain.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, no, it's. It's crazy work.

[Jackie]

Pelvic floor is a real thing.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, it know is.

[Jackie]

By the way, I only recently found out you could have postpartum. I'm preeclampsia, which is not that I'm comparing, but like is much more painful.

[Jackson Claude]

Scary.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So no, that's my advice to you sister. It's just no.

[Jackson Claude]

And then also you could like tell your doctor. Even if at six weeks you're like not wanting to.

[Jackie]

Why don't you see the doctor? Tell your husband the appointment's at 2:30, but it's actually at 2. Have him come at the end and you could just tell the doctor, please tell my husband I need that. I can't have sex for six months. All right, next up. Hey, swirlies. I'm also a member of the dead dads club for about eight years now and I've been seriously dating my boyfriend

[Jackson Claude]

for over a year.

[Jackie]

I talk about my dad occasionally, but not often. I don't do much for his birthdays or anniversaries, but I am fully present for them. Long story short is that I took my mom and dad's old golf clubs. My boyfriend was cleaning them and getting me all ready to start playing soon. He later told me that he took one of my dad's clubs to get re gripped for him because he thought I would think it Was sweet. Wait, is this totally up because he didn't ask or is it a p. Job move?

[Jackson Claude]

I just don't understand why someone would do that with like as a surprise. Like and not letting you know or like I don't even think he meant to do it as a surprise. Like but why not tell you that he's doing it or ask you if he can do it before he maims something that is precious to you?

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, this is crazy behavior. Like to. First of all, it's your boyfriend, not your husband. So, so he needs to calm down.

[Jackson Claude]

But even like any normal sane person would just be like oh my gosh, I love these clubs. Like I, I, I, I think it would be like nice if I you know, refer me, let me know how you feel about that. Like no one would actually just go and do it without saying anything. Permission Psychopath.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's giving sociopath like to touch the item, like a personal item of a loved one who's passed away is crazy. Like you shouldn't move it, you shouldn't touch it. Like it's up to the person. But to then like actually change it to fit your hands. Like that's insane.

[Jackson Claude]

Without mentioning asking, telling nothing. This is a crazy person.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I guess they like regript the moms for her and he's like let's do the dads for me.

[Jackson Claude]

Is that what it was?

[Jackie]

I thought like yeah, she took both.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay, say it again.

[Jackie]

So long story short, I took both my mom and my dad's old golf clubs. My boyfriend was cleaning them, getting me ready to start playing soon. So obviously she was gonna play with the moms.

[Jackson Claude]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Okay. So I think he saw like that journey for her and was like do me next.

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah, that's a little creepy.

[Jackie]

It's a little self centered. Like I don't want to look too much into it but like that's not a person who's like looking out for you.

[Jackson Claude]

That's weird vibes. So like evaluate the rest of the relationship.

[Jackie]

It's also obviously like gay.

[Jackson Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

Cuz he wants the golf clubs are very phallic, very phallic shaped product. And obviously if we wanted to look more into this, we could. But let's not go down that road.

[Jackson Claude]

No, I think think that evaluate the rest of the relationship. Like are there weird breadcrumbs? If this is like a perfect pee. Wonderful, sweet. And like maybe he just had like

[Jackie]

a lapse in judgment. Senior moment, you know?

[Jackson Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yes. Senior moment.

[Jackson Claude]

Senescence where he just like did the wrong thing one Time. I can forgive the wrong thing one time. I can forgive it.

[Jackie]

Yes, of course.

[Jackson Claude]

Sometimes I do genuinely the wrong thing one time.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Let's do an odd audit. This calls for. We need a button. Like, your husband is gay. This calls for an audit. Yeah. This calls a relationship.

[Jackson Claude]

Relationship at a glance.

[Jackie]

Rag. Take a look. Rag.

[Jackson Claude]

Rag. Take a look.

[Jackie]

See what you find.

[Jackson Claude]

Tag. And you know, like, you're listening to this. You're like, yeah, well, there was also the time and.

[Jackie]

Right, right. So, you know.

[Jackson Claude]

You know. I know.

[Jackie]

You know, like, sometimes Dear Toasters is like looking in a mirror, you know?

[Jackson Claude]

Or you're like, no, this was so crazy. That's why I had to write.

[Jackie]

And it was so out of character.

[Jackson Claude]

And you know that. Okay, he made a mistake one time. We can forgive.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Only you can answer that question, my sweet, sweet friend.

[Jackson Claude]

And the good news is you already know.

[Jackie]

Chills. That's. Dear Toasters, thank you to everybody who wrote In Dear Toasters, gmail.com or our website, thetostpodcast.com reminder that our summer merch drop launches tomorrow at 10am Eastern Time. Time. We've got sweatshirts, we've got T shirts, we've got hats, we've got crew necks, we've got rugby shirts, we've got matching sets. All available at shoptoastmerch.com 10am Eastern Time. Check it out. I'm wearing a size extra large slash large. Depending on if I want more of a fitted or oversized look. Jax, would you say the same?

[Jackson Claude]

Or I'm wearing a large.

[Jackie]

I'm wearing a large. Great. Shoptastmerch.com thank you so much for listening to the test of Monday morning show. We deliver five stories and instead of every Monday, Friday and YouTube subscribing, it's on YouTube. YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe. Give this video a thumbs up or. Also available as podcast and our podcast we found. So it's bad fights and sister public rewrites all the places Podcast review about a beautiful, stunning and wickedly talented we are.

[Jackson Claude]

Love you. Bye.