I Love Your Episode, Emergency: Tuesday, September 30th, 2025

Summary

The Toast: "I Love Your Episode, Emergency: Tuesday, September 30th, 2025"

Podcast by Dear Media
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: September 30, 2025

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Overview

In this lively "emergency episode," Jackie and Claudia address major breaking news in the celebrity world—the shocking separation of Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban after nearly 20 years of marriage. The hosts, renowned for their daily morning podcast exploring the latest in pop culture, celebrity relationships, and internet trends, also touch on stories involving the SAG-AFTRA AI actor controversy, Jay Cutler's jail stint, book-to-movie adaptations, and the 2025 CMA Awards. They close with their beloved "Dear Toasters" advice segment, tackling dilemmas from Ozempic drama to unexpected marital revelations.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Emergency Episode: Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban’s Split

[00:53–25:20]

Why an "Emergency Episode"?

• The hosts joke that only two events could compel them to break their daily routine: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's engagement (which already happened) or a Nicole Kidman–Keith Urban divorce—a scenario they previously thought nearly impossible.
  • Jackie: "There are very few things that could happen that would make us physically get up and record an emergency episode." [01:32]
  • Claude: "And we only added them to the list because it was so out of the realm of possibility." [02:19]

Reactions to the Separation

• Both Jackie and Claude express genuine shock and emotional discomfort with the news, largely in denial and somewhat angry on behalf of the couple.
  • Jackie: "I am so upset by this. I'm taking it so personally. I know it has literally nothing to do with me." [17:30]
• They reflect on the couple's seemingly solid 20-year relationship, commending their ability to juggle independent and busy lives, and Jackie highlights how Nicole Kidman found healing and stability after her tumultuous marriage to Tom Cruise.
  • Jackie: "She found something so beautiful, so healing, and I’m sure her life is great now... but I’m sad. There’s so much behind their marriage. It’s so much deeper than we even will ever know." [19:45]

Theories on the Split

• Speculation abounds:
  • Nicole Kidman’s heavy work schedule might have contributed (“What are you running from?” [20:13]).
  • Discussion of Kidman's choice to act in provocative roles ("Maybe 'Baby Girl' was a cry for help" [22:05]; "You could have said no, but you wanted to drink pee from a bowl" [22:44]).
  • Musicians’ reputations and relationship challenges ("He’s a musician... definitely, I don’t know, like on the tour bus being bad" [23:19]).
• They beg Nicole and Keith to avoid messy public revelations, referencing trends in celebrity splits.
  • Jackie: "I’m actually begging Nicole Kidman, like, do not go and call her daddy... can nothing be sacred between two people?" [18:06]
• Determined to keep things sacred and private, they hope for a dignified split.

On Celebrity Divorce and Public Responsibility

• Playful but pointed commentary on celebrities’ roles as public figures:
  • Claude: "You have a responsibility as role models to stay miserable in your marriage. 1000%." [25:15]
  • Both agree 20 years is a "successful marriage" by any standard—even if it’s ending.

Memorable Quote:
Jackie, paraphrasing Tyra Banks: “Nicole Kidman, I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you.” [24:48]

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2. Celebrity News Roundup

Jay Cutler’s Jail Stint

[25:22–30:22]

• Jay Cutler's DUI leads to jail time; hosts discuss whether "overcrowding" early jail release is a real phenomenon, referencing Khloe Kardashian's similar experience.
  • Jackie: "I could not spend four minutes in jail. I'm more afraid of going to jail than I am dying." [27:00]
• Spirited debate about celebrities’ brushes with the law; Jackie realizes many of her personal favorites (Taylor Swift, Kelly Clarkson, Kiki Palmer) have stayed out of legal trouble.
  • Claude: "If your fave was Jay Cutler, maybe you're looking inward today." [29:24]

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3. SAG-AFTRA Versus AI Actress "Tilly Norwood"

[31:36–38:19]

• SAG-AFTRA issues a statement condemning the rise of AI-generated performers, worried about the devaluation of human artistry.
  • Claude: "Creativity is and should remain human-centered and is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics." [31:16]
• They weigh the future of AI in acting, referencing past failed attempts at “robot pop stars” (Sophie), and compare AI to the rise of animation, puppetry, and CGI.
  • Jackie: "The future is here and you really can't fight it. So you have to find a way to survive, like, and exist alongside with it." [34:48]
• Lack of consensus—AI is coming for every industry, but both hosts use it in their own lives.

Memorable Quote:
Jackie: "I'm not against it at all. I use AI in my everyday life. It has improved my life. But I understand... the larger implications, especially as it comes to jobs." [37:36]

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4. Book-to-Movie News: "People We Meet on Vacation" Trailer Discussion

[39:00–42:31]

• Netflix’s new adaptation of Emily Henry’s "People We Meet on Vacation" is revealed; both hosts are unimpressed.
  • Jackie: "Everything Emily Henry has ever written is the most overhyped thing in the world... her best book is People We Meet on Vacation." [39:11]
  • Claude: "The trailer looks bad. The book was bad, actually, so maybe it will be good..." [41:31]
• Broader commentary: Netflix’s record for adapting books is poor, Hulu and Amazon do better.
  • Jackie: "At this juncture, we should be leaving the book adaptations to Hulu. They do a very good job." [42:10]

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5. CMA Awards Hosting News

[48:32–50:55]

• Lainey Wilson to host the CMA Awards solo while also being the most-nominated artist, which the hosts find unusual given she’s at her professional peak.
  • Jackie: "When you’re really in the mix at the height of your career... that's not when you take the hosting job…" [48:55]
• Discussions about politics of country music awards and over-correcting for gender disparities.
  • Claude: "She didn't create this problem. And so I'm not gonna now hold it against her." [50:35]
  • Jackie: "Hang Tight, Honey is the best song ever." [50:52]

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Bonus: Lighthearted Banter & Viral Fame

Social Media Virality

[09:13–11:15]

• The Toast’s phrases and sounds are going viral on TikTok, being used in "Dancing with the Stars" trends and across the creator community.
  • Jackie: "It's clear that we're so viral that anybody who wants to be in the virus of making viral TikToks has to use our sounds." [09:46]
• Ongoing banter about sound-clipping and farming their content for viral moments.

Random Fun: Bad Bunny, Puerto Rico, and Parenting

[04:34–07:15]

• Claudia apologizes for not being excited about Bad Bunny, is peer-pressured by their community, and jokes about learning more for the Super Bowl.
• Candid sharing about balancing phone time and parenting, with real talk on mom guilt and social media addiction.

Memorable Quote:
Jackie: "Name a worse feeling than getting caught up on your phone and, like, your baby's in the bouncer... and you catch him like, looking at you and you're like, oh my God, I was looking at my phone. I'm disgusting." [07:40]

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Advice Segment: Dear Toasters

[51:09–64:38]

1. Ozempic Fridge Pic Drama

   • Listener used Ozempic briefly and a houseguest secretly photographed it in her fridge, sparking concerns about gossip and privacy.
   • Advice: Hosts are less concerned about the Ozempic and more about the friend’s invasive behavior—"Cut this out of your life." [53:11]
   • Jackie: "Don’t be mad about the Ozempic. Be mad about the rat in your house!" [53:29]

2. Honeymoon Cheating Confession

   • Listener’s husband had a lap dance (and pulled down his pants) with strangers during their honeymoon.
   • Advice: Huge red flags. Time for a full "audit" of the relationship—don’t be afraid to leave early if this behavior is a sign of ongoing issues.
   • Jackie: "If you are gonna give him grace, he needs to get his ass handed to him so hard." [59:10]
   • Claude: "You have a big problem here. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it." [57:02]

3. Dad’s Weight Loss Wager

   • Listener’s father offers $1000 to lose 20 pounds, leaving her hurt and conflicted.
   • Advice: While it’s understandable to be hurt, zoom out: consider if the money helps and if you wanted to lose the weight anyway. But ultimately, it's the delivery that stings, not the offer itself.
   • Jackie: "Take the money and run." [62:10]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Nicole Kidman, I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you." — Jackie [24:48]
• "You have a responsibility as role models to stay miserable in your marriage. 1000%." — Claude [25:15]
• "If your fave was Jay Cutler, maybe you're looking inward today." — Claude [29:24]
• "The future is here and you really can't fight it. So you have to find a way to survive, like, and exist alongside with it." — Jackie [34:48]
• "Cut this out of your life." — Jackie, on the houseguest taking photos in her fridge [53:29]

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Timestamps

• 00:53 — Main Emergency: The Kidman-Urban Split
• 17:30 — Emotional Reactions and Theories
• 25:22 — Jay Cutler Jail News
• 31:36 — SAG-AFTRA vs AI Actress Tilly Norwood
• 39:00 — "People We Meet on Vacation" Movie Trailer Critique
• 48:32 — CMA Awards Hosting News
• 51:09 — Dear Toasters Advice Segment

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Conclusion

This fast-paced episode is a testament to Jackie and Claudia's signature blend of wit, personal perspective, and pop culture obsession. With both humor and sincerity, they process the emotional weight of celebrity news while offering relatable and honest advice to their loyal community. The show’s tone is candid, informal, and playfully irreverent—a true reflection of The Toast’s unique voice.

Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, girlies.

[Claude]

It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Jackie]

It's your favorite show.

[Claude]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[Jackie]

We'll start your day off.

[Claude]

Swirly, it's the Toast. They sound amazing.

[Jackie]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. And it's so important that you choose to spend your days with people who lift you up, co workers who brighten your day. So if you have a co worker you hate, this is your permission to slap the out of her. Hey, Jax, how you doing? Oh, sorry, Her. Could be a him, but let's be real. It's a her.

[Claude]

It's a her. It's always the women.

[Jackie]

Hey, Swirly, how you doing?

[Claude]

I'm darn good. Excited for this fantastic Tuesday. We have a lot to do today.

[Jackie]

The theme of today's episode, it's an emergency.

[Claude]

It's an emergency. Not to, like, jump right into the stories, but, like, just to give, like, a tease of what we're talking about today, which is Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban, which we had previously said was one of literally two reasons why we would ever do an emergency episode.

[Jackie]

So very sadly, I feel like not everyone who listens to our podcast is also a Patreon.

[Claude]

I mean, that's just a sad fact.

[Jackie]

That that's just an unfortunate reality. I get it. People have different priorities. It's okay. You're always welcome to join us. Patreon.com/a toast. Having said that, over the summer, we had this, like, running bit that, you know, people always say when there's breaking news, like, oh, my God, Claudia, Jackie, you need to do an emergency episode. And we say, well, like, yeah, but we do an episode every day, so just wait till tomorrow morning. And there are very few things that could happen that would make us physically get up and record a emergency episode.

[Claude]

One of them sit down to think about what things could possibly happen that would trigger an emergency episode. And we could literally only think of two things.

[Jackie]

One was, of course, the engagement of one Taylor Travis Kelsey, which ended up happening. And we ended up recording an emergency episode.

[Claude]

Was. Or was that what spawned this conversation?

[Jackie]

No. Like, a week before, we had said, like, realistically, an emergency episode list. We would actually. What would make us get up off our ass? Yeah, I guess would be Taylor's engagement.

[Claude]

Okay. Yes.

[Jackie]

She ended up getting engaged a week later, and we recorded an emergency episode because we weren't. Because we weren't doing daily episodes. And then we were like, what else really could? And honestly, I feel like we're always talking about the stream strength of the marriage of Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban. And we reference them quite a lot, and we love them both so much. Like, as a couple, as individuals, we're kind of like their biggest fans. Weirdly, we're always referencing or not referencing them. And we were like, I guess if they got divorced, like, that would call for an emergency episode. And we only added them to the list because it was so out of the realm of possibility. And when we said that, I got DMs from people being like, well, you know, I live in Nashville and I heard xyz, and it's like, please, they say that about everyone. I wasn't taking any of those messages seriously. Lo and behold, TMZ breaking news yesterday. Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are getting separated.

[Claude]

Mary A month later, we were called to task, and we did not rise to the occasion. But what's also funny is Claudia and I had just recorded a Patreon episode yesterday. Literally, we had got up from our chairs, and one hour later, this news broke. So, like, we couldn't get back in the chairs.

[Jackie]

The thing is, this is the emergency episode.

[Claude]

It is, it is. And it's nice to have, like, more information, even though people are just speculating. The news is, like, socially, they're like, Nicole Kidman was at a beauty event solo a few days ago before announcing split. It's like, Keith Urban would have never been there, even in the heyday of their marriage.

[Jackie]

No, they do a lot of solo work, which is why we've always commended them for, like, making their individual schedules work. We always say, like, when a celebrity couple sites like scheduling, you know, it was hard to be bi coastal. Like, we broke up because the time management. Well, Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban do it, and they both are at the top of their game in their respective fields. So if they can do it, anyone can. But you know what?

[Claude]

Even though they split, they did it for 20 years. So do it for 20 years and then tell me you can't do.

[Jackie]

Also did remind me that I've been wanting to talk about. Reese Witherspoon did an interview where she was talking about her relationship with Nicole Kidman, and she said the absolute funniest thing that I actually was laughing so hard. She also did an impression of Nicole Kidman was hysterical. Oh, my God. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

For the real estate bitches. It was the. The clip made me laugh so much. I'm like, I never thought Reese Witherspoon was so Funny, but, like, she's hysterical. Just simply something I wanted to mention.

[Claude]

So what did she say that made you, like, the impression Made you laugh?

[Jackie]

The impression made me laugh of, like, Nicole Kidman sending her a property. Oh, no, we're the property. Like a take on the property brothers. Like, not Nicole Kidman being funny.

[Claude]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it was really cute. I think she was on podcast.

[Jackie]

Culturistas.

[Claude]

Culturistas.

[Jackie]

Culturistas. That's so Jackie. Speaking of Las Cultaristas, the Trustada community is upset with me because I didn't, like, you know, say that I was really excited for Bad Bunny. And you know what? Like, I. I stand with my community. You guys are right. He's for the girlies. I take back everything I said. And then I was trying to find I know one Bad Bunny song, and I was trying to find it on Spotify, but, like, I don't know, Jackie. And I was trying to ask Chat come me a B. Do you know that one?

[Claude]

I don't think I know one Bad Bunny song.

[Jackie]

I know I know the one. And then chat. I sang it for Chat this morning, and Chat was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Claude]

Yeah, no, I don't know one that I'm familiar with.

[Jackie]

I'm listening, I'm learning, I'm streaming, and you'll catch me at the super bowl in the front row.

[Claude]

That's really one thing about me.

[Jackie]

I stand for my community. Like, they didn't like what I said. I take it back.

[Claude]

Oh, wow. Yesterday, when we're like, no, when we say something, we're 10 toes down. Like, deal with it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Except, like, the toast out of community, like, has let me fully infiltrate them, and they never give me, like. So if they're giving me, like, I stand. I. Okay, never mind. Control Z.

[Claude]

So it's not your truth anymore that you're not hyped for it?

[Jackie]

Yeah, like, I can get hyped for anything that's good.

[Claude]

No, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, this is a crazy choice.

[Jackie]

I'm so lit up. Let's go.

[Claude]

Oh, wow. She on repeat.

[Jackie]

Viva Puerto Rico.

[Claude]

Well, viva Puerto Rico. Anyway. It's a fast place any day.

[Jackie]

Viva Puerto Rico.

[Claude]

Send love to Puerto Rico.

[Jackie]

Setting love. The Paul brothers live in Puerto Rico.

[Claude]

There's, like, so many great.

[Jackie]

And actually, Puerto Rico is a deep, like, integral part of Ben and I's romantic history.

[Claude]

It's true. You don't need a passport there.

[Jackie]

They're so true.

[Claude]

It's it's party, so it could be party regardless of the Super Bowl. Of course, it's flowers. And they've been through some hard times in the last few years.

[Jackie]

Of course, lots of natural disasters. I'm sending love. And we're huge in Puerto Rico, by the way.

[Claude]

I believe it. We're the Elk of Puerto Ricans.

[Jackie]

Sending love always and forever in perpetuity.

[Claude]

And a day.

[Jackie]

So of course. And a day of. Don't forget the day. The first story of the day is, of course, going to be the breaking news. We will dive into it. But before we do. How you doing, Jax? How you doing?

[Claude]

I'm doing well. Busy week. Another, like, weird week because we have Yom Kippur on Thursday. So, like, we'll be off on Thursday. So just, like, you know, orienting myself to the week. Last night I was just like, I need to get off my phone. I find that I'm on my phone too much these days. So I did something crazy.

[Jackie]

Crack.

[Claude]

Crazier.

[Jackie]

Meth.

[Claude]

I started a book that is really crazy. It is really crazy. I just, like, needed to turn my brain off.

[Jackie]

Huh.

[Claude]

So I read, like, just started reading. Not like, the most amazing book or anything yet, but, like, I'm really just trying, like, it's. It's not good. Just too much time on my phone. And I really am looking forward to Yom Kippur because I'm not fasting and because I won't be on my phone, I'm going to turn it off for the 24 hours, and I need a reset like that. I don't know if anybody else is feeling it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I feel like nothing quite puts into perspective how much time you spend on your phone until you have a baby. And it's like, what? Name a worse feeling than getting caught up on your phone and, like, your baby's in the bouncer or whatever, and you catch him, like, looking at you and you're like, oh, my God, I was looking at my phone. I'm disgusting. Disgusting.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Or it's a terrible feeling, like, you.

[Claude]

See someone else, dude. Or it's like, if you could see yourself in this moment being on your phone and, like, your kids are being adorable. Like, what are you doing? So, like, you really have.

[Jackie]

So true.

[Claude]

And it's hard when your phone is, like, right there and, like, vibrating because everything just makes your phone vibrate, even if people aren't actually looking for you. Like, just tell me.

[Jackie]

Tell me why. Like, I never got as many text messages when I didn't have a baby. And now that I have a baby, it's like everybody wants to, like, engage with my content and send me text messages and call me and FaceTime me and tell me how beautiful I am. Like, nobody was communicating with me before I had a baby.

[Claude]

Yeah. So it's like you actually have to keep the phone out of the room. Otherwise the incessant buzzing, like, of course you're going always be drawn to it. So.

[Jackie]

And let me tell you what the incessant buzzing is. It's anan it.

[Claude]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jackie]

And it's an it sound detected. Yeah. I'm here singing. Like, I'm right here. Yeah.

[Claude]

That's extra tough in an apartment. Like, for me, I still get notifications, like, even when we're not in there, like, if there's like a shadow motion.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Claude]

You know, someone screaming, oh, and there's.

[Jackie]

Always a ghost on my n. Let.

[Claude]

Me say there's always shadows. Like, the sun comes and goes.

[Jackie]

The ghost of Snitches Pass lives permanently in my house. And so I'm constantly getting, like, the ghost notifying the nan it I have.

[Claude]

Like, a few months ago, I turned off all Instagram notifications. Like, every Instagram cannot not notify me. You know, Kim Kardashian could DM me and I would not get a notification. So that's been good. But still too much time spent on Instagram. Like, I've got to scale it back.

[Jackie]

That's a bummer for Kim.

[Claude]

It's a bummer for everyone, really.

[Jackie]

Tonight is Dancing with the Stars. And it does. You know, it is worth mentioning that we are now a viral sound amongst the tick tock Dancing with the Stars community. As you guys know, Alex Earl and her partner Belle used our sound. Which. What? Which sound did she use? I think she used. I mean, I don't know how anyone has a problem with us. And then last, I mean, there's so.

[Claude]

Many sounds that we have that are viral that it's hard to remember who used what.

[Jackie]

Correct. Last night, Danielle Fischl and her partner used that sound Hamstring. So it's clear that, like, they all use each other's sound.

[Claude]

It's like, it's clear that we're so viral that anybody who wants to be in the virus of making viral tiktoks has to use our sounds.

[Jackie]

I think. Like, I have a feeling Whitney Leavitt is next because they make so many tiktoks her and Mark.

[Claude]

Yeah. I wonder why she hasn't, like, done it. Well, you know, take your time, Whitney.

[Jackie]

She's got Lots of content to make. We are always here for you.

[Claude]

Yeah. Maybe we'll come up with some new sounds. Even though I think we produce sounds every day. But it's on the sound clippers. I don't know. I know there clips the sounds. Mm.

[Jackie]

Well, we clip sounds and, like, when they go viral, it's never from our original videos. It's like other people just being like, oh, this was funny.

[Claude]

We clip, like, conversations that they aren't meant to be. Like viral sounds.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Claude]

But the viral sound clippers, I just feel like they could be producing more.

[Jackie]

They should farm our content more. Okay. They should. For real. I do think people pay for that. Like, you can pay like a company to, like, farm your content. Basically, I'd be down, somebody send me a bill.

[Claude]

Like, yeah, send us a farmer.

[Jackie]

I don't know how it works. Wants a wife farmer and farmer wants a sound. I love your sound, farmer.

[Claude]

Ei, ei, O.

[Jackie]

I feel like it's also worth mentioning that today's also. Dear toasters, the community was not fed last week. I have amazing submissions for you guys today. So I don't think we should dilly and I don't think we should dally. I do think we should dive right in because there's so much to do. Including the whale. Whale. Whale emergency episode.

[Claude]

Yeah, that's fine by me, Jackie.

[Jackie]

I love your episode emergency.

[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Jackie]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

Our first story, sag aftra. No, I'm kidding.

[Jackie]

Our first rate story about sag.

[Claude]

We actually do.

[Jackie]

It's very much always she's like mining the Internet for a story about SAG so she could say SAG Aftra.

[Claude]

They're like this subplot. It's actually very interesting. Moral dilemma. And I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts. But that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban have separated after 19 years of marriage. TMZ dropped the News yesterday, Nicole and Keith have split. He is living separate from her. TMZ said that they have been living apart since the beginning of the summer. As a reminder, the couple married in June 2006, almost 20. 20 years of marriage. They share daughters Sunday Rose, who is 17, and Faith Margaret, who is 14.

[Jackie]

Like, genuinely, why? I. I don't know of a good reason. I don't think there was anything really nefarious like cheating here. I really don't. So, you know, they grew apart. Whatever. Like, seriously grow up, you know?

[Claude]

Yeah. No. And it's like, you've been through all the hard times together. I just was watching because I'm on my phone constantly. A real. About this. This girl. This girl was explaining that your marriage goes through different eras. And, like, they're very. And it's not about, like, always trying to get back to the honeymoon phase. It's about thriving in those specific eras. Even when it's so hard. It's like, you just got to get through, like, having young children. Yeah. And then eventually. And if you do all those things and you work through those things, then you get to the golden era, and I feel like that's where they are. So, like, what goes wrong now? When you have all the time in the world for each other, all the money in the world, all the success, like, personal success separately, like, what goes wrong now?

[Jackie]

I don't know. And if you. I don't know. I'm so upset by this. I'm taking it so personally. I know it has literally nothing to do with me. I'm so. I'm not here for it. I'm just kind of, like, not accepting it. Remember, like, back in the day when Kim and Kanye got divorced? Like, obviously before all of that, like, you were in denial. You were like, I don't believe it. I think they could work it out. I really do.

[Claude]

I don't know.

[Jackie]

And I. You get to the point of announcing.

[Claude]

And I do worry, like, things are going to come out where it's, like, a point of no return. Like, we literally say this about every couple who breaks up. Like, literally, like, Zach, Brian, and Brianna.

[Jackie]

Chicken Fry were like, I know.

[Claude]

Make it work.

[Jackie]

Here's the thing. We're still in the place where, like, nothing has happened yet. Like, she hasn't got on, call her daddy and, like, said he had a crooked penis yet. You know, like, I'm actually begging Nicole Kidman, like, do not go and call her daddy. Like, or just, like, don't do what people do these days. Whereas, like, you break up with someone and you tell them what color their shit stained underwear was.

[Claude]

Like, I really don't think she will.

[Jackie]

Yes. Like, seriously, please. I'm so over that. Like, can nothing be sacred between two people?

[Claude]

Maybe I'm naive, but I really think that they will keep this between them. They do have two children, so that does kind of keep the wheel binding you. I think the most we would get is, like, music from him that alludes to what happened, the issues.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I'm just upset because, like, Nicole Kidman ran so far away from Hollywood, from Tom Cruise. He literally kept her kids. She ran. He is the devil. And she found this, like, wonderful thing. And they built such a wonder. It could have been just, like, a rebound, you know, she, like, needed a normal person who wasn't in a cult, but she ended up finding this great love after Tom Cruise, and they built a beautiful life together. And he sort of healed her from the inside out with his little guitar and his long hair. Like, and, you know, she's. She lives through, like, one of the most painful things ever. Right. Like, your children don't speak to you, and it's not because you did anything wrong, but it's because they're in a cult with their dad. And as good as life could have been for her afterwards, I really believe that it was because of him. Like, she found something so beautiful, so healing, and I'm sure her life is great now. Like, she has amazing friends, whatever. But, like, I'm sad. I really am. Like, it's such a. There's so much behind their marriage. It's so much deeper than we even will ever know.

[Claude]

No. And 20 years is a long time, and 20 years is a successful marriage.

[Jackie]

Like, yes.

[Claude]

Even though it's not for Hollywood working. Like, they had a successful marriage and it's good and just because it's ending. But what's interesting about these stories is, like, the narrative is that he's leaving her. She didn't want this. Yes. That she has been fighting to save the marriage.

[Jackie]

That.

[Claude]

That, like, he moved out and he's the one, like, who's ending it now.

[Jackie]

The only red flag, if I now look back at, like, the last couple of years, the only red flag in their marriage is the amount of work Nicole Kidman takes on for an actor of her stature is really not compatible. Like, her doing that baby girl movie. Like, she does so much work. That Netflix show, which, I'm sorry, was horrible. The perfect couple. Like, she's so much better than a lot of the work she puts out. It's almost like, what are you running from?

[Claude]

Good point. I could see a movie like, Baby Girl getting between them. Like, what are you doing? You're married 20 years, and, like, you're licking up cat pee or something.

[Jackie]

Although Nicole Kidman is one of the very few women in Hollywood who, like, made a commitment, you know, they were lifting up female storytellers. And she actually does do, like, X amount of projects a year that are directed by women. So she's not just, like, you know, saying stuff. She's actually doing stuff, which I appreciate. And I want to say I think Baby Girl was actually directed by a woman, and maybe that was, like, her, you know, box checking for the year for sure.

[Claude]

But there are plenty of things that are directed by women. She also could just do less things that are still directed by women. Like, I don't know. I feel like that, yes, it was.

[Jackie]

Directed by a woman.

[Claude]

It just sort of. That's kind of a conversation under.

[Jackie]

No, I'm just saying, like, everybody wears their herstory T shirts, and then they're back, you know, casting Shia.

[Claude]

So you're just saying separately, she talks to talking, walks to walk as an individual. That's what she's doing.

[Jackie]

Yes. I'm criticizing, like, the amount that she works, but at least she's, like, helping other women, so.

[Claude]

Sure. But you made me feel like I can't criticize Baby Girl because was directed by a woman.

[Jackie]

Girl criticize. Not Dana Holzberg seeing that movie with her in laws because she didn't know what it was about. Okay.

[Claude]

It's a classic, Dana.

[Jackie]

I. I just wanted to caveat that, like, while I'm criticizing her work, she's also, like, you know, she's moving the one of the few women in Hollywood who, like, talks about, like, let's lift each other up, and then they're like, behind the scenes, you know, like, stabbing women in the back. Not Nicole Kidman.

[Claude]

She's moving the needle for woman.

[Jackie]

Just one.

[Claude]

I don't know. Baby Girl. I think that's where it could have all started. Just saying you do? Yeah. Like, that's kind of.

[Jackie]

I feel like Baby Girl was like a cry for help.

[Claude]

Like, when we talk about how weird it is that actors, like, kiss people on set.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claude]

That movie. I didn't see it. I actually don't even know what it's. It's like she kind of gets into, like, a submissive relationship with her intern, Right?

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like her young co worker.

[Claude]

So it's like porn. Like. Like, bds.

[Jackie]

Extremely pornographic movie. It's all about. Yeah. Like submissive. Like, he makes her, like, act like a cat and pee on herself and drink milk from a bowl.

[Claude]

So if I'm her husband of 20 years. Side eye.

[Jackie]

Especially because you're an accomplished actress. Like, you don't have to take low brow roles like this.

[Claude]

You could have said no, but you wanted to drink pee from a bowl.

[Jackie]

Okay, I have another. I have another theory for you. Maybe, like, they're, you know, they've been married for 20 years. Like, maybe things got a little dry still in the bedroom and she didn't like, love the way that he was seeing her, you know, the mother of your children. Like, at some point you don't see things can get like a little boring. And so maybe she wanted to change the way he saw her so she took that role.

[Claude]

And then what happened?

[Jackie]

And it was just like a band aid. Maybe it gave him a few months.

[Claude]

Interesting.

[Jackie]

Just a theory.

[Claude]

So you think they just lost the spark?

[Jackie]

I don't actually. I. I don't know. He's also a musician, which, like, we do have to take into account, like, even though, like, we love him, he's. No, he's our P. John. Like, we love him. Keith Urban, yada, yada. Like he's a musician. Like, he's like, definitely. I don't know, like on the tour bus being bad.

[Claude]

Oh.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[Claude]

I thought you were gonna say, like, you know, he probably has a lot of feelings that need to be.

[Jackie]

No.

[Claude]

Handled.

[Jackie]

They say that, like, the only man in Hollywood who is actually truly, genuinely loyal to his wife is Robert Downey Jr. That's what they say.

[Claude]

And so we should just assume that every other one.

[Jackie]

Until someone proves me wrong. I know there's going to be Pierce.

[Claude]

Brosnan I know doesn't cheat on his wife.

[Jackie]

I'm going to open my phone and there's gonna be like, story time. I hooked up with Keith Urban, you know?

[Claude]

No, but like, I guess unless he left to be with someone else. But I don't think.

[Jackie]

Oh my God, I would be so upset if he actually fell in love with one of these hookers.

[Claude]

I don't know. I mean, we could speculate all day.

[Jackie]

I'm sad. I'm just like, I'm projecting. I don't even know. Like, I'm sure Keith Urban's a great guy. I don't know. I'm just upset.

[Claude]

Yeah. I don't know. Blaming baby girl feels safe.

[Jackie]

100.

[Claude]

Well, I guess that's that for now. I'm sure we'll have updates. We'll have updates, but are you ready to move on? Anything else to say? Do you want to, like. Yes.

[Jackie]

I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban.

[Claude]

Free.

[Jackie]

Sorry. Let me start over. I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban. Kidman, I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you.

[Claude]

So you're mad.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Make it work.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like every we. I know you like, your individual happiness is important, but like, you also, you.

[Claude]

Have to think of the collective good. You have a responsibility.

[Jackie]

Correct.

[Claude]

As role models.

[Jackie]

Better.

[Claude]

You have a responsibility as role models to stay miserable in your marriage. 1000%.

[Jackie]

I said what I said.

[Claude]

Are you ready for our next story, which is some legal news? I don't know why these two cup. These two people. Except is actually one actually feel adjacent to Nicole and Keith. I think they were neighbors at one point. And that's Jay Cutler, ex husband of Kristen Cavallari, has been jailed in Tennessee following his dui. Yeah, so he got a DUI a few months ago and he has a four day jail sentence. So he began.

[Jackie]

So he's just like Khloe Kardashian ing.

[Claude]

It before he's in jail. That's. I mean, unless we had like early hours behavior. Yeah. Because of overcrowding. But he went to jail today.

[Jackie]

Can I say something?

[Claude]

Huh.

[Jackie]

Khloe Kardashian going to jail and then getting sent home like a few hours later due to overcrowding was the first and last time I ever heard of overcrowding in a jail. Is that a thing or was that just like a line on keeping up with the Kardashians, like, for real?

[Claude]

Oh, I think it's a thing.

[Jackie]

I never. That was the first and last time I ever heard of that happening to someone.

[Claude]

I never questioned it.

[Jackie]

I know, but have you ever heard of it happening ever again?

[Claude]

I don't know. I feel like maybe. I feel like sometimes, like celebrities get out for overcrowding. Especially if it's like something like is.

[Jackie]

It something that only happens to celebrities?

[Claude]

No. Maybe it happens to other people too. We just don't hear about it because.

[Jackie]

Sound off in the comments, like, have you ever heard of somebody you know or like went to high school with like going to jail and then getting spread sent home early due to overcrowding. Like, I think it's seriously like a fake phenomenon, honestly. Interesting that we only think is real because, like, we watch it on the Kardashians. How could it not be real?

[Claude]

Yeah, well, they had Space today because Jay Cutler went to prison, to jail, and he will be there until Friday for his dui.

[Jackie]

I just want to say. I know we could all say, like, it's four days. Whatever. You do it. Like, I could not spend four minutes in jail.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You guys know my biggest nightmare in this life? I'm so afraid. I'm more afraid of going to jail than I am dying. And that's what keeps me, like, abiding the law.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Hard. I'm almost like a narc when it comes to the law.

[Claude]

That's, like, really crazy that he's going to jail, that he's a jailbird.

[Jackie]

And it's actually crazy that there are so many celebrities who just, like, low key go to jail. Why do we put so much emphasis on celebrities? Like, they're literally, like, delinquent criminals, like, and brain dead. Almost every celebrity has been to jail. Like, it's so crazy.

[Claude]

Or arrested.

[Jackie]

Like, why do we. Even the best ones, Like, I love her. Sorry. Reese Witherspoon has been to jail. Or, like, she got arrested. Why do we care what these people think? And, like, why are we literally talking about them every day on a podcast?

[Claude]

It's so crazy sometimes, like, you do go down that you have to zoom out. Yeah. And you. You can't focus on. Or else, like, we're out of a job. Like, what are we gonna do?

[Jackie]

I know it's fun. But, like, every celebrity is not college educated. Has mostly been arrested. I know. But, like, has mostly, like, all been arrested. Went to jail. Has, like, some sort of, like, addiction issue.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And, like, we're always talking about, like, she spoke out. Why do we give a? No.

[Claude]

I mean, enlightenment is crazy. No longer giving a. Yeah.

[Jackie]

But the thing is, I love them. I love them. I would give them my last dollar. Like, it's so sick.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Let me. Who are, like, my faves in this life? Like, have they been to jail or arrested Taylor Swift? No, of course not. You would never. Luke Holmes would never. Haley Bieber's, like, turning into one of my favorite people on the planet. Never Gwyneth. Never.

[Claude]

Actually Gwyneth, like, for car. Getting her name into a tree.

[Jackie]

Totally.

[Claude]

But no, I. I don't have a recollection of her having been arrested.

[Jackie]

Has Gwyneth Paltrow ever been arrested? No. Oh. She had her legal troubles with the skiing incident, of course, but she was never arrested. Who are, like, my favorites?

[Claude]

Kelly Clarkson.

[Jackie]

I don't even need to Google it. No, she's never Kiki Palmer. She's never been yeah. Mindy Kaling. Never been.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay. I feel good about, honestly, like, my faves.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You guys look inward. Has your. Are your faves, like, constantly getting arrested? Like, maybe look inward?

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And that's causing trouble.

[Claude]

If your fave was Jay Cutler, maybe you're looking inward today.

[Jackie]

Maybe take the next four days off to think about what you've done.

[Claude]

But I don't know. He's really paying the cry, the time for the crime, you know?

[Jackie]

Right. So, okay, by the way, if Sam.

[Claude]

Hunt had gone to jail, like, would you have forgiven him faster? Because he would have, like, paid for his sins.

[Jackie]

Here's the thing. I actually, as, like, a human being, I really do believe in rehabilitation, especially ever since I read the book the Many Lives of Mama Love. Did you ever read it?

[Claude]

No.

[Jackie]

I think you should know that you're looking for books. I really do believe in, like, the. The beauty of rehabilitation. I just don't feel like any celebrities, like, ever get truly rehabilitated. And I'm not talking about, like, rehab. I'm talking about, like, doing something wrong and like. Like coming out better on the other side.

[Claude]

And if they do it, changing their.

[Jackie]

Ways, if they do, it takes decades. Charlie Sheen. Yeah, Because I watched the documentary, and I believe him, but I don't think he was saying these things 10, 20, 30 years ago.

[Claude]

Yeah, I understand.

[Jackie]

So it's just important to, like, remember, like, come up for air every once in a while. Like, these people are insane.

[Claude]

Yeah, they are insane. And here's what they're in a tizzy about now. SAG Aftra has condemned AI actress Tilly Norwood.

[Jackie]

Have you heard the Tilly Norwood saga? She's gorgeous.

[Claude]

So SAG Aftra has issued a statement condemning Tilly Norwood, the AI actress who has become a contentious subject in Hollywood after her creator recently claimed that multiple talent agents. We're interested in signing the AI Creation. The Acting Guild believes, quote, creativity is and should remain human centered and is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics. To be clear, Tilly Norwood is not an actor. It's a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers without permission or compensation, they wrote in a statement. They said it has no life experience to draw from no emotion. And from what we've seen, audiences aren't interested in watching computer generated content untethered from the human experience. It doesn't solve any problem. It creates the problem of using stolen performances to put actors out of work, jeopardizing performer livelihoods and devaluing human Artistry. They added that signatory producers should be aware that they may not use synthetic performers without complying with our contractual obligations, which require notice and bargaining whenever a synthetic performer is going to be used.

[Jackie]

So the thing is, them building a program and referencing, like, art that other people created and not compensating them is wrong. And yeah, we're at this stage now where, like, AI is coming for jobs that includes acting. And so while I don't. I don't agree with it. Why. Why would actors, you know, get their job safe from AI and not, you know, factory workers or coal miners? Like, AI is coming for everyone in marketing. It's coming for everything. So it's not just about, like, sag. A SAG is obviously, like, centering themselves. And I get it, that's their job. But if we're gonna have a conversation, like, we're going to have a big conversation, not just about, like, theater actors.

[Claude]

Yeah. And I want to see this energy for all the other people whose jobs are being replaced by AI.

[Jackie]

Now, I want to say the man who created I gave a statement, and he had probably one of the loser I answers ever. Just being like, I didn't make Tilly to. To steal jobs. I made Tilly to start conversation.

[Claude]

Well, this is what the creator's name is, a line. I would have assumed that was a woman, but it's a man. He issued a defense of Chile by saying she is not a replacement for a human being, but a creative work, a piece art. I see a. Not AI, not as a replacement for people, but as a new tool, a new paintbrush. Just as animation, puppetry, or cgi.

[Jackie]

Actually, that's a soleil of an answer. What about animation? Was that putting people out of jobs?

[Claude]

What about puppetry?

[Jackie]

What about puppetry or cgi, which is.

[Claude]

Fair, open fresh possibilities without taking away from live acting. AI offers another way to imagine and build stories. I'm an actor myself, and nothing, certainly not an AI character can take the craft or joy of human performance. I just want to say, like, the damn not him. Convincing me animation comparison is a slay.

[Jackie]

It is 100%. And I also want to say I remember a couple of years ago where they had that, like, robot pop star Sophie or whatever.

[Claude]

Remember her?

[Jackie]

She, like, didn't take off. I feel like in a. In an existential way, like, these robot type of AI characters are not a real threat to the entire industry. But yes, it becomes like a new sect of art.

[Claude]

Yeah. And I guess it's a. Yeah, it's a new category. And Then if you're gonna have an AI character in a movie, I'm sure other characters wouldn't. Other actors would not want to work with the AI character. So everyone in your movie would be.

[Jackie]

Tilly getting discriminated against?

[Claude]

No, I mean, it's very specious.

[Jackie]

Yes, it's so specious.

[Claude]

So specious. So everyone in your movie would be an AI character. It would be an AI generated movie. And is that movie better than what the real people are putting out? At the end of the day? It's like, is it. Is it good? It's not.

[Jackie]

It's not. Right? It's not a generalization. Because there are some animated movies that are better than non animated movies, and there are some non animated movies that are better than animated movies. So it's like. It's not like saying all AI movies are going to be better than regular movies. You make a good movie.

[Claude]

No, like, it could be worse also. Yeah. Like Hollywood make a good movie, they're making really bad movies. And I think that also really puts their jobs in jeopardy because if AI is going to do it better because they're doing it badly, like, if they were doing it really well, I don't think anyone would really, like, care, like, crave anything else. But yeah, maybe we do want an AI generated movie. That's like, I make a movie people like and they do it.

[Jackie]

The thing is, is that the future is here and you really can't fight it. So you have to find a way to survive, like an exist alongside with it. And it is. It's coming for every single industry. And whether you take a moral stance on it or not, like, it's here so you can either get on board or get left behind. Honestly.

[Claude]

And to be clear, I'm not picking a side here because I don't give a shit about this particular issue of AI actors, but I do find it very interesting.

[Jackie]

No, I do too. And it's like it's coming for every space. Right? And so we're only hearing about this one because it's like SAG and everyone's famous, but there are great challenges in, you know, integrating AI into every space.

[Claude]

Lawyers.

[Jackie]

Lawyers. That's bad. Yeah.

[Claude]

Like, hey, I could just write a contract at Lickety Split.

[Jackie]

It's so true. Copywriter is like, goodbye.

[Claude]

It's. Yeah, this is just a larger conversation. And what do you, by the way.

[Jackie]

Even like interior designers? Like, I was using AI. Like, I forget for what. I was like buying a new rug for my master bedroom and I was like, what rug would Go with this. And they gave me like a bunch of good options and I found a good one. Like, you know, no, everyone. And I said, I'm like, I like the style of like modern or whatever. I like your cake, I like your rug chat.

[Claude]

So I don't know what the answer is, honestly. Like, how can you fight this progress? Like, how can you just.

[Jackie]

It's coming. You can't.

[Claude]

We have to. We should be using these tools to make our human work better. Like how we use chat GPT on this show to enhance the fact checking department.

[Jackie]

Or kind of how. Like the machine factory. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Claude]

Like the industrial Revolution.

[Jackie]

Right. They put factory workers out of a job. The assembly line. The assembly line. That's what I was looking for.

[Claude]

The assembly line did include factory workers. They included people.

[Jackie]

But then it automated it.

[Claude]

Yeah. Then it does get automated. But yeah, even, you know, the sewing machine enhance. And the seamstressing. No, but you still needed someone to operate the machinery.

[Jackie]

A seamstress is a woman. Yeah. What is a male seamstress called? Teamster. Oh, duh.

[Claude]

No, it's not so. Duh. I'm just saying.

[Jackie]

Oh, okay.

[Claude]

I don't know that that's true, but it feels right.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claude]

And a female Taylor is a tailored.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Tellora.

[Claude]

I don't know. These are big questions. Much bigger than me, of course. But I did like, like a lot of SAG aftra.

[Jackie]

So sorry that happened and good luck.

[Claude]

A lot of like AI advocates do like to compare it to the industrial revolution where it's like, it pushed us. It was a leap forward.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I'm not against it at all. I use AI in my everyday life. It has improved my life. But I understand. Yes. I understand the larger implications, especially as it comes to jobs.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

AI is over here eliminating jobs. And I think they're really creating a lot.

[Claude]

Yeah. And to be clear, like, I don't always love the work that AI does. So I think there really is, like value for human.

[Jackie]

Humans.

[Claude]

And if they're only ever studying, like human, say in acting, they're studying like actors, then they don't. And we just, you know, keep going with AI actors, they won't have like new thing. They won't be able to get better.

[Jackie]

Right. Because their references are old and they're putting people out of business.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

So I don't know.

[Jackie]

Not us having big philosophical debates here on the show and like ethical dilemmas.

[Claude]

But to be clear, like, I. I have.

[Jackie]

She has no horse in this race.

[Claude]

No. I Do I mean for the general question of like. Yeah, it puts.

[Jackie]

I don't know what the right answer is.

[Claude]

No, because what, are you just going to shut it all down? No, it's been amazing in other ways. People upload like their medical results and get like all this information that it would have taken them like years to get.

[Jackie]

Who knows?

[Claude]

Who knows?

[Jackie]

Check back in in a few years.

[Claude]

Once it's already done. We'll be able to call it.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Classic us.

[Jackie]

What stories number next four. I can wait.

[Claude]

It's a little book to movie news. What People We Meet on Vacation trailer just dropped.

[Jackie]

Oh, I didn't even. Wait. I didn't even know that it was getting the movie treatment.

[Claude]

It's on Netflix.

[Jackie]

I happen to think that everything Emily Henry has ever written is the most over hyped thing in the world. Like I. She gives such industry plan to me. Having said that, her best book is People we meet on Vacation.

[Claude]

Oh. Having said that people vacate We Meet on Vacation was the reason I stopped reading Emily Henry. Like I really. What did you read before that Be tried. I liked that was her first book.

[Jackie]

I'm watching.

[Claude]

Okay.

[Jackie]

What is this song?

[Claude]

Hang with me Robin.

[Jackie]

Oh, the girl singing in the trailer. Okay. I hate it. I hate this.

[Claude]

Hi.

[Jackie]

Hi, Alex. I was not expecting to see you. My bag came out first and that never happens. What am I?

[Claude]

Enjoy your trip.

[Jackie]

We should just. The following itinerary. I say we just wing it. I've seen enough. This does not look good.

[Claude]

It doesn't look good. It doesn't even look like the book that I read, which I didn't like. So I guess I'll be glad if it diverges from the book.

[Jackie]

I actually liked the book.

[Claude]

My core issue with this book is that the title has nothing to do with the book. The book is about a girl and her platonic best guy friend who go on all these different vacations every year and like, you know, pretend like they're not in love. And then it's called People We Meet on Vacation.

[Jackie]

Right. You would have thought that they met each other on vacation. No.

[Claude]

Or that they like go on these. And it's not even about the other people on the vacations.

[Jackie]

It's about them too.

[Claude]

It's about them too. Like people would meet on vacation. It's like you go on a cruise and you like fall in love with someone random that you love. I don't understand the title compared to funny. First of all, what it's actually about.

[Jackie]

I don't recognize either of those actors and I just want to say Netflix does not have a good track record of adapting movies into TV shows and books. The Luckiest Girl Alive was not my favorite. Again, I was a little too close to it, but I don't think it's generally regarded as a good adaptation. The Perfect Couple was horrible. And that's literally my favorite book. What did they recently do, too? I don't know. Like, that department at Netflix is not slaying the day.

[Claude]

No. And this, like, the trailer looks bad. The book was bad, actually, so maybe it will be good.

[Jackie]

And sometimes in a trailer, you just, like, throw in a good song and, like, it looks like a good trailer. And that was a good song. And it didn't do it.

[Claude]

No. And it's like, it's. It just seems so boring. Like, these two people that go on all these trips. Oh, no, we're just friends. And, like, of course.

[Jackie]

She's so quirky. Oh, I'm listening to loud music in the airport. I didn't see you. My headphones, like, okay.

[Claude]

It was like, we're just friends. And then by the end of this. This book, we won't. We'll be loving.

[Jackie]

We're right.

[Claude]

Cool. Seen it before. I think I've seen this film before, and I didn't like the ending.

[Jackie]

I think, actually, at this juncture, we should be leaving the book adaptations to Hulu. They do a very good job.

[Claude]

They do. Do.

[Jackie]

We do do.

[Claude]

They do do a good job, actually.

[Jackie]

Prime. Prime does. Excellent. The summary turned Pretty Daisy Jones.

[Claude]

Tis tip. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Tis a tip. Yeah.

[Claude]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[Jackie]

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[Claude]

Like jewelry for the face. A window to the eye.

[Jackie]

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[Claude]

Thank you. Sash shirt.

[Jackie]

You're welcome.

[Claude]

Our fifth and final story. A little hosting news. Lainey Wilson will fly solo as host of the CMA Awards after joining two co hosts last year, Peyton Manning and Luke Bryan, who were doing it together for a few years. Now she has the job all on her own.

[Jackie]

I feel like it's like a weird.

[Claude]

Job for her, especially because she's tied for most nominees with six.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Claude]

Nominees.

[Jackie]

I feel like when you're really in the mix of, you know, like at the height of your career and that's not when you take the nomination, this, excuse me, the hosting job, you take it when you're on the up and when you're in like your retirement era, like Brad Paisley did it for so long. I guess he also did it with Carrie Underwood who was like at the time still at the top of her game. So it's different in country than it is in pop. Like, you would never have Taylor Swift hosting the Grammys. It just feels like a weird time for Lainey Wilson. Like, you're sitting in the audience waiting for your awards to be given to.

[Claude]

You, or, like, you're present, announcing someone who's going to present the award to you, and then you just.

[Jackie]

It sounds like a logistical nightmare, honestly, running from backstage to the stage to your seat. Like, I don't know.

[Claude]

It does. But they must really like her because. Yeah.

[Jackie]

It's also very political. I feel like country seekers are always talking about how, like, these big organizations, like the ACMs, the CMAs, are really political. And if you want to, like, win the awards, it's not just about who sold the most or made the most. Like, you have to kiss the ring. Yeah.

[Claude]

Yeah. Well, congratulations to her.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It feels like it's gonna be a busy night for her. Wishing her the best.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And you know how I feel about Lainey Wilson. Like, please don't let me go on my diatribe. Like, I. I actually love her music. I do think she's overhyped, but I love her music.

[Claude]

Actually.

[Jackie]

Not over hyped, over awarded.

[Claude]

Okay, that's fair. No. And I've been getting more into her music recently, and, like, she's done nothing wrong. It's not her fault that she wins all these awards and that, like, they've decided that, like, to make up for all the years of overlooking and they're just gonna put it all on her. Even when I, like, Luke does deserve it. It's just, like. And he's a man, so he's not gonna get it. And that's not Lainey's fault that they're over correcting with Lainey. Like, she didn't make them do that. She didn't.

[Jackie]

Jackie just explained perfectly. Yes.

[Claude]

She didn't create this problem. And so I'm not gonna now hold it against her.

[Jackie]

Right. And not, like, stream her music.

[Claude]

Yeah. So when 4x4 by you does come.

[Jackie]

Up, that's not my favorite song.

[Claude]

Country. I listened to what Lainey has to say.

[Jackie]

She's got a lot to say.

[Claude]

Yeah. No, she's. She's really fab.

[Jackie]

Hang Tight, Honey is the best song ever.

[Claude]

She's really fab. So.

[Jackie]

She is. And she's got personality. She's actually good for a host.

[Claude]

Mazel tolaney.

[Jackie]

Mazel tolaney. Wishing you well. And speaking of.

[Claude]

Well wishes, let's dive.

[Jackie]

Into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie And I do our absolute best to help the swirlies in need. It's our advice segment. If you ever want to write in, you have two ways of submitting. Oh, we also have a new website. We haven't even been talked about that. Head to you guys. Head to the toast podcast.com not only to see our brand new website which looks par. You can buy merch. You can become a Patreon member. You can submit to Dear Toasters. There's a little submission box at the bottom. It's totally anonymous, don't worry. Yeah, new website alert. We also submissions. So quiet, so quiet.

[Claude]

So quietly doing big things.

[Jackie]

We also accept submissions via email so you could also just email to your toasters gmail.com but head over to our website today. Just like take a look at the parginess we've been putting out for you guys and maybe, you know, get a piece of merch.

[Claude]

Yeah, do yourself.

[Jackie]

It's our advice segment. We try to help the girlies in need. Feel free to write in about whatever's going on in your life. If you've written in and it hasn't gotten on air, it's either unfortunately not interesting or too long. Try not to keep your submissions like you know an essay's worth.

[Claude]

Just keep it right. Information. It's a tough line.

[Jackie]

The need to know info.

[Claude]

Yeah. If you know what questions we're going to ask. Like include that information.

[Jackie]

This one I'm taking extremely personally because it has to do with Ozempic. Hey swirlies. I need an opinion on this little awkward Ozempic situation I'm in. I did Ozempic for about three weeks before the summer. I didn't need it. I was about 130 pounds, but my mom had some extra lying around so I was like, why not? It was a totally fine experience. I lost 10 pounds. I've been off of it and maintaining it ever since. Obviously I didn't tell anyone I obviously I didn't tell anyone I was on it because they would tell me I didn't need it. Lol. Well, I hosted friends at my vacation house and the next day my friend was showing me a picture on her phone. She swipes and what do I see? A picture of my Ozempic in my fridge that I clearly didn't hide well enough. I pretended like I didn't see it. Do I come clean, confront her or what? My mom is also on it and is open about it so I could also just totally blame it on my mom. I prefer not to tell anyone because it was Literally three weeks. Please help.

[Claude]

No, I'm sorry. Take the credit. Like, three weeks. Like, you don't have to come clean. Honestly. What a shady bitch for taking a picture of your Ozempic. So obviously all your friends are talking behind your back, speculating if you took Ozempic. To lose those ten pounds, you must look amazing. And they're so jealous.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I would worry more. Not about, like, what's happening with Ozempic, but the fact that you have a rat in your house. You invited that to your vacation house, and she's taking pictures of your intimate items. That, by the way, could you have a very good excuse. Like, for all she knows, you could literally just be your mom's like this. Like, I don't care what you do about the Ozempic. Cut this out of your life.

[Claude]

What was she doing with that picture?

[Jackie]

Sending it to everyone, being like, guys, you were right. Kelly is on Ozempic or whatever this girl's name is. Like, no, I'm mad. I don't even. I actually do not care about the Ozempic situation. You're not mad enough at this girl, like, taking a picture inside your house. You invited her into your home.

[Claude]

Of the people who live in your home. Like, what an invasion. Imagine if it was, like, your pill cabinet.

[Jackie]

Of course. Like, imagine if it was, like, a mental health bipolar pill. She's sending that to your friends. This.

[Claude]

Yeah. Deny till you die, by the way. Just to make her crazy.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Being like, no, actually, it's my diabetic grandmother. Just make something up like this.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I'm sorry that that happened. That. That's not a good feeling. Like, somebody's in your home. Good for you for having a vacation house. By the way, don't ever invite her again.

[Claude]

Yeah, no, that's like, the. The. What's jarring to me. You shouldn't feel bad about anything. You shouldn't feel obligated to share. In general, people shouldn't feel obligated to share. But, like, I'm with you. Like, it was three weeks. Just like, you did it yourself. Congrats.

[Jackie]

Nobody needs to know.

[Claude]

Nobody needs to know.

[Jackie]

And, like, I'm just upset that.

[Claude]

And obviously they're all talking about how amazing you look. Like, this is like. And how do you look so good? So you should feel good about that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Send a nude photo of yourself and be like, you bitches are never welcome back at my house.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Right. Like, your question to us about the Ozempic, Like, I'm not so concerned about that. I'm more so concerned about, like, you have toxic energy in your life that you need to eradicate immediately.

[Claude]

Right. The question isn't like, should I come clean?

[Jackie]

And no, who cares?

[Claude]

Should you remain friends with this person?

[Jackie]

Correct. And the answer is no.

[Claude]

Yeah. Or now, you know, like, you can have a friend who's like, maybe you guys have history, and, like, she's really funny and you have a good time, but now you know that she's, you know, not just all good all the time.

[Jackie]

And I can't believe you invented her. Your vacation home. Like, the nicest thing somebody can do.

[Claude]

When you have invited us later on. And we wouldn't have taken it.

[Jackie]

We would never. We would have just shot ourselves up. But we reimbursed you for the cost. Yeah.

[Claude]

All right, next up.

[Jackie]

Hey, Jackson.

[Claude]

Claude.

[Jackie]

I just found out that my husband of one month, on the last night of our honeymoon, met two men while I was back at our hotel room sleeping, that purchased a lap dance for him. The woman was naked, and at the end, he pulled his pants down. Apparently. It didn't go any further than that. I thought this was a joke when he started telling me a week later. I'm extremely upset and hoping for advice.

[Claude]

Okay, back it up. When was their honeymoon?

[Jackie]

A month ago. Found last night. Found two men, met two guys, like, while he was at the hotel bar or whatever. She was asleep or she was in the room. Yeah, she was sleeping and they, like, purchased a lap dance, I guess, like, under the guise of, like, oh, this guy just got married. Sort of, like bachelor party energy.

[Claude]

This is a nightmare.

[Jackie]

There are so many red flags. Like, your husband went to the hotel bar while you were sleeping on your honeymoon. Go to bed and lay with your wife, too. Not only did he, like, run out, he was, like, hanging with dudes that, like, he parties with. He didn't. He doesn't sound like a guy who was, like, ready for marriage not to be, like, divorced.

[Claude]

He's looking for any straggler to go out with, and they go to a strip club, like, a bunch.

[Jackie]

The lap dance is one of many red flags here. Like, not just the act of getting a lap dance from a naked woman and you pulled your pants down. That is cheating, by the way.

[Claude]

Yeah. No, it's not. Like, he did it on his bachelor party with his friends, and you go to a strip club, and, like, it's the environment. Like. Like, this is so weird.

[Jackie]

And I feel like he's telling you to sort of cleanse himself, being like, what do you mean? I told you, like, but no, no, he took like. I'm sorry. There are a lot of elements here that are cheating the fact that it was on your honeymoon. You have a big problem here. I'm not gonna like sugar.

[Claude]

You have a big problem because, like, now you're married, right?

[Jackie]

You don't have kids, so you can always back out.

[Claude]

So this is just saying. What I'll say is this is cause to evaluate the relationship. Like, it's time for a State of the Union. Are there other red flags? Are there other him that you need to do an audit now? And now would be the time to leave if the audit turns up rotten.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I like that. Do an audit. I like that.

[Claude]

Like a mental audit. Like, how do you feel about, like, you know what I mean? Like, did he just get. Is he really stupid? Is he sort of like a follower? And he met these guys and he found himself in a bad spot, but he's, like, not a bad person. He just has no background. Like, also not great.

[Jackie]

Not great, but not divorce worthy.

[Claude]

Yeah. Like, it depends on the intention. Do you have to worry every time you go on vacation that he's going to be. Is he just the kind of guy that goes to the bar and just, like, goes out and, like, can't be serious? You know what I mean? Like, you only you can answer these questions. We're doing an internal audit.

[Jackie]

I love that. I do. I'm really sorry that this happened to you. I just want to say, like, don't be embarrassed to just call it.

[Claude]

No. And you have, like, total grounds, right?

[Jackie]

I think a lot of people find themselves in, like, bad situations because they didn't just call it for fear of, like, what everyone from your, like, like, high school Facebook group is gonna see. Like, who cares? Like, you could be so much further down the line in such a worse situation because you didn't just call it. Jackie's right. You don't have kids one month. Like, okay, people will talk about you for a month, and then they'll move on. And you know what? At least people are talking about you. Okay, let's give them something to talk about. No. And don't be afraid to just call it.

[Claude]

I think sometimes it's easier when you have, like, a tangible reason. I think sometimes also people, like, are afraid to call it because it's like, well, it's just a feeling and it could change. And sometimes I feel different and like. Like, it's like, but he did something, like, very wrong. And if it's something that speaks to a pattern of behavior that you've seen. Or it just sort of confirms other doubts that you've had, which only, you know, I can't tell you. Or it's like, oh my God. So out of left field. Like, I can. You can forget. Like I'm. As we've said, we're very forgiving. Yeah. Like if he is worthy of forgiveness, then forgive and move on. But like, you do need to ask yourself these big questions.

[Jackie]

Do in audit. I love that only you can make the right decision. But if really if. If genuinely, like, he's a p job and he did something bad, yada yada. But he also, if you are gonna like give him grace. He needs to get his ass handed to him so hard. Really needs to be told like, that this is not okay behavior.

[Claude]

Wait, who took their pants off?

[Jackie]

He did. That's Look. Yeah. Who. By the way, even in like a normal lap dance on a bachelor party, like, you keep your bands on. It's kind of the rules.

[Claude]

So you have physical therapy.

[Jackie]

I don't maybe went to his. Jackie. I don't think he went to a stream club. I think he went to a brothel.

[Claude]

I think he thought he was at physical therapy.

[Jackie]

Oh, for sure. For his coccidinia. Oh, maybe he just has coccidentinia.

[Claude]

No, that's really weird.

[Jackie]

And by the way, I feel like the way you're writing to us, like you're like trying to vouch for him. Look, the woman was naked and at the end he pulled his pants down. Apparently it didn't go any further than that. Didn't go any further than was.

[Claude]

Did he pull his aunties down too?

[Jackie]

Yeah. I need to know where undies kept on. No, the whole even. Honestly, undies on or off, it's bad.

[Claude]

No, that's really bad. Also, I want to know how he told you.

[Jackie]

Like. Yeah.

[Claude]

Was it really.

[Jackie]

Did he come to you, like, guilty.

[Claude]

Like full of regret? Like, oh my God, this has been like eating me up. I did something so bad. Or like. No, we. Of course we did that as a honeymoon. Like, that's what people do.

[Jackie]

Is a context in which he told you.

[Claude]

Yeah. And what's his level of remorse and regret?

[Jackie]

Or was he just saying it like, how funny. Haha, that's red flag. Don't be afraid to just call it girlfriend. Don't be afraid.

[Claude]

Run the audit.

[Jackie]

And I've said it once, I said again, it is extremely chic to have an ex husband. Like, I don't think that that. No.

[Claude]

And you get to tell everyone, like he pulled his pants down with during A lap dance. Like, no one's gonna question you.

[Jackie]

On our honeymoon.

[Claude]

On our.

[Jackie]

It gets worse with every sentence.

[Claude]

With two other guys he met in.

[Jackie]

The bar while I was sleeping. On our honeymoon. Correct. No one's gonna judge you. And then you have a chic ex husband. I'm sorry. I'm. I'm all here for it. But if you stay too, and you want to work it out, I support you.

[Claude]

We love that. Forgiveness is beautiful thing. Sets you free.

[Jackie]

This final one is so funny. Okay, I was let go. Sorry. It's not funny that you were let go. I was let go for my job after having my baby. And then my dad had a stroke. So I've gained about £30 ever since then. Just like stress on stress on stress. I visited home and my dad offered me a wager to lose £20 and he would give me a thousand dollars. I was humiliated. We had a big fight. I know he meant well, but it felt like I was. If he felt like I was fat or broke, why make me be a performing monkey just so I get money? How would you react to this? I let it go and apologized, but I'm still hurt.

[Claude]

Of course. It would hurt my feelings. Feelings naturally. However, after taking a step back, I say to myself, I could be £20 slimmer and a thousand dollars richer. This is a good thing for Jack Self, especially like with Ozempic.

[Jackie]

Girl, five words for you. Take the money and run.

[Claude]

Yeah. You come out of this so parchy. Like, of course, you know, if you don't want to lose the weight, like, and it's not. Not. It's not right when people make you feel bad about your weight. But, like, generally speaking, like, you don't feel good about it. That's how you even described it. You're in a tough time, so you gained weight. That doesn't. Like, it's not giving, like, living my best life. You would like to lose the weight. So this is like a little motivation and you get paid and you'll feel like overall, you'll. You'll be in a better place.

[Jackie]

So.

[Claude]

Yeah, like, sometimes, like, it hurts to hear it. And especially that way, like, gamifying it is kind of weird, but when you take emotions out of it.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's hard to take emotions out of it because, like, your background, you said, like, just going through a really hard time. Like, and your dad should be more kind and caring with his words. Like, men are just not like, no, I'm sorry. Like, a woman would never say this. Like, if you had a baby, like, no, but yeah, if you can zoom out and take the emotions out of it. Like, he's basically just covering Euros. Epic prescription.

[Claude]

And well, he. You should like, get that included in the fee. And I would say before Ozempic, like, this would have sounded really, even really hard. And also, like, you gotta up the money. Like, I'm more like, yeah. Not that Ozempic is a cheat, but it helps and it makes.

[Jackie]

It makes it doable for people who maybe couldn't have done it before.

[Claude]

Right. So, yeah. In the age of Ozempic, like, you're crushing it.

[Jackie]

I just want to say if you got let go from your job and like, the only way your dad is going to give you money for a thousand dollars, like, is to lose weight. Like, he's a dick. If you need money and he just has it lying around. Clearly he should have been more generous with you, like, before the weight loss thing. But zooming out, like, yeah, if you wanted to lose the weight anyway, do it. And now you'll also get a thousand dollars.

[Claude]

Yeah. But I understand why your feelings are hurt.

[Jackie]

Of course that's hurtful. No, parents, like, don't know how to, like, tell them when it comes to their teacher to lose weight. Yeah. There's like, no good way to do it.

[Claude]

No, there is not. It's like, no.

[Jackie]

And they're always coming from a place of love. They want you to be healthy and happy, but like, like, it hurts so bad to hear it. Like, there's no good way. So I guess this was like his way.

[Claude]

Another bad way. There's agreed not a good way. No one's ever coming away from the conversation. Like, wow, I'm glad you said something.

[Jackie]

Yeah, of course. I didn't know. Thanks.

[Claude]

I'm not living in this body. I had no idea.

[Jackie]

Kind of Ozempic heavy segment today.

[Claude]

Yeah, but yeah, I guess so. Causing lots of drama. Well, we added Ozempic into the third.

[Jackie]

True, true, true. But we can't talk about weight loss without talking about Ozempic.

[Claude]

No, that's like, it's exciting.

[Jackie]

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[Claude]

Love ya. Bye.